Discussion: FOX News

[StorminNorman]

I love how the billboard says Hannity: You know he's right. :rolleyes: More like wrong. :o

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[Sebastos]

I might call. :o

[CelticPredator]

I hope someone decks O'Reily (I dont care if I spelled it worng. He deserves no spell check!) across the face in one of his..."interviews". That would make my lifetime.

[Kelly]

*shakes head*



and walks away....

[CelticPredator]

Well, when he stops being an *******, you call me. :D

[FilmNerdJamie]

:whatever:

[danielisthor]

I watch Fox News alot. Mainly Glenn Beck and the Fox Report. I have O'Reilly on in the background as I'm cooking dinner, but i can no longer stomach Sean Hannity. I have no use for CNN (now that Beck is on Fox) or MSNBC (though occasionally i will switch on Olberman) .

I don't know if it was act or true feelings, but watching Glenn Beck almost break into tears today was something.

[Sebastos]

Why'd he break into tears? :huh:

[Kelly]

Why'd he break into tears? :huh:

When he was on CNN, he got some news that a man's daughter was kidnapped/killed (no one knows at the moment) when she went into Mexico for a concert.

The man contacted Beck, just to get his story out there, and CNN said no. Beck fought it and lost.....

This is happening more and more on the border with Mexico, and not alot of news is being done on it.

Apparently the story goes that his daughter went into Mexico with friends, to a concert. She called saying she was on her way back. She never made it home. His daughter was stopped by Mexican police near the border, one of the police officers was a woman. It has been said that his daughter was taken and sold to cartel members. Since the police woman spoke out about it, she has since been murdered.

When Beck came to Fox, and showed them the story, they said yes you can put it on the air, bring the father in for an interview, and we will start paper work, letter writing, etc to get some answers. He was emotional about it, as he gets sometimes.....he felt bad that it took him this long to get the story out there. He had talked about it on his radio show, however.

[Malice]

If you didnt know....Jaurez...the Mexican town just on the opposite side of the Texas town El Paso, has the highest murder rate in Mexico.

Last year alone there were (if I remember the NPR podcast) 1,400 or 1,500 murders...
(its population is about 1.2 million or so)

If it continues to get worse, and the crime really starts spilling over onto the streets of El Paso (more), you will start seeing troops there.

[BlackLantern]

Glenn Beck will always be a clown to me....

[StorminNorman]

Glenn Beck is an absolutely perfect fit for Fox News. He isn't partisan, and his ideology fits the network like a glove.

[hippie_hunter]

I hope someone decks O'Reily (I dont care if I spelled it worng. He deserves no spell check!) across the face in one of his..."interviews". That would make my lifetime.

I'd like to see that actually.

[Sebastos]

When he was on CNN, he got some news that a man's daughter was kidnapped/killed (no one knows at the moment) when she went into Mexico for a concert.

The man contacted Beck, just to get his story out there, and CNN said no. Beck fought it and lost.....

This is happening more and more on the border with Mexico, and not alot of news is being done on it.

Apparently the story goes that his daughter went into Mexico with friends, to a concert. She called saying she was on her way back. She never made it home. His daughter was stopped by Mexican police near the border, one of the police officers was a woman. It has been said that his daughter was taken and sold to cartel members. Since the police woman spoke out about it, she has since been murdered.

When Beck came to Fox, and showed them the story, they said yes you can put it on the air, bring the father in for an interview, and we will start paper work, letter writing, etc to get some answers. He was emotional about it, as he gets sometimes.....he felt bad that it took him this long to get the story out there. He had talked about it on his radio show, however.

Ah, I understand. Still despise him. :o

[StorminNorman]

Fox News Ratings Improve Under Obama

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/with_obama_in_white_house_fncs_ratings_grow_107994 .asp

[BlackLantern]

Well what else is Middle america going to watch?....the short haired homosexicle on MSNBC or the silver haired homosexicle on CNN?? theyre scared someone is going to bust into their house and violate them so they cling to Sean Hannity and Papa Bear to protect them

[Kelly]

I watch all of those, not Hannity......couldn't stand him with Colmes, sure as hell can't stand him now.....



I DID watch Hannity interview Whoopi Goldberg.....it was very good. I love her attitude when discussing with someone totally different from her opinion. I wish all of us could learn from her style. Very respectful, and cool.

[Marx]

Fox News Ratings Improve Under Obama

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/with_obama_in_white_house_fncs_ratings_grow_107994 .asp

I would dare say that's only because people want to see how badly they spin things.

[StorminNorman]

Everytime I hear Hannity I want to punch him in the baby maker.

[Marx]

Well what else is Middle america going to watch?....the short haired homosexicle on MSNBC or the silver haired homosexicle on CNN?? theyre scared someone is going to bust into their house and violate them so they cling to Sean Hannity and Papa Bear to protect them

Anderson Cooper and Campbell Brown are my two favorite anchors.

[Kelly]

I would dare say that's only because people want to see how badly they spin things.


Nah, that would show in their (Fox's various) polls that they do, and it really doesn't.

[Addendum]

Everytime I hear Hannity I want to punch him in the baby maker.

So Hannity is a woman :Chris Matthews laugh:

[BlackLantern]

the only thing I like on Fox is 'Red Eye' and I only catch it saturday or sunday night because they air it at 12....as opposed to during the week when its on at 2 or 3 in the am

[Marx]

Everytime I hear Hannity I want to punch him in the baby maker.

:lmao:

[Kelly]

Anderson Cooper and Campbell Brown are my two favorite anchors.


I love Anderson Cooper, I can't stand Campbell Brown....

[BlackLantern]

Anderson Cooper and Campbell Brown are my two favorite anchors.

I think everyone likes Anderson Cooper...at least a little bit...he's a journalist first and foremost, not a gasbag

[Marx]

I love Anderson Cooper, I can't stand Campbell Brown....

He's great! She does have a tendency to be a little snarky from time to time though.

[Marx]

I think everyone likes Anderson Cooper...at least a little bit...he's a journalist first and foremost, not a gasbag

Exactly, BL. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[Kelly]

the only thing I like on Fox is 'Red Eye' and I only catch it saturday or sunday night because they air it at 12....as opposed to during the week when its on at 2 or 3 in the am

That is one show on Fox that I watch pretty much every Saturday, if I'm home.

I also like some of their legal discussions.....I don't really like their nightly shows very much, except Greta when she has something on I'm interested in. But as far as the talk show type of things.....don't really like any of them. I'll watch O'Reilly if he's going to interview someone I'm interested in......but just to watch his show every night....just not interested.

I sometimes watch Beck, because its on at 4:00 and not much else is on TV at that point. Except Oprah Winfrey. I think its great that she does so much with her money....but I really don't want to see her everyday. I can take her in small doses....:cwink:

[BlackLantern]

Oprah is more powerful than one person really should be....Beck is on at 5 after Cavuto...and like I sad before, Glenn Beck used to host a morning drive time radio show on CTs big pop music station...(basically Dingo and the Baby) for a few years before leaving so it is impossible for me to take him seriously....

[Kelly]

Oprah is more powerful than one person really should be....Beck is on at 5 after Cavuto...and like I sad before, Glenn Beck used to host a morning drive time radio show on CTs big pop music station...(basically Dingo and the Baby) for a few years before leaving so it is impossible for me to take him seriously....


I watch Cavuto sometimes, but I watch him on Fox Business News, which along with listening to NPR, Anderson Cooper, CNN Headline News, Bloomberg News and alittle local news....that is pretty much what my TV is on as far as regular viewing choices....

[gap5ewl]

I think everyone likes Anderson Cooper...at least a little bit...he's a journalist first and foremost, not a gasbag

He takes himself too seriously. I hate when he does the male model poses.

[chaseter]

Everytime I hear Hannity I want to punch him in the baby maker.
That only makes him stronger.

[Malice]

I DID watch Hannity interview Whoopi Goldberg.....it was very good. I love her attitude when discussing with someone totally different from her opinion. I wish all of us could learn from her style. Very respectful, and cool.

I love Whoopi...always have.

I record Hannity on my DVR and pick and choose things to watch...

[Holiday]

I never watch Fox News, unless maybe a certain politican or celebrity is interviewed on there. But even then I'll just YouTube it.

I mostly watch CNN. I'll watch in the afternoon with Tony Harris and Kyra Phillips, and sometimes I'll catch Campbell Brown, Lou Dobbs and Cooper later in the day if I can.

I don't watch MSNBC at all... well, unless Contessa Brewer is on. :heart::heart:

[Kelly]

They are reruning the interview that Hannity had with Whoopi Goldberg, its at 8:00 p.m. Central, 9:00 p.m. Eastern tonight. It was really good, you will get pissed off at Hannity, but Whoopi, as always.....hangs right in there.

[The Overlord]

Everytime I hear Hannity I want to punch him in the baby maker.

I think that's a major problem, I think Fox needs more commentators who have strong convictions, but very thoughtful and civil in the process, maybe they should get a Libertarian or something, someone who is right wing but not some GOP partisan.

[StorminNorman]

I think that's a major problem, I think Fox needs more commentators who have strong convictions, but very thoughtful and civil in the process, maybe they should get a Libertarian or something, someone who is right wing but not some GOP partisan.

To a certain extent Glenn Beck fits that wing, though he isn't really Libertarian with his social conservatism.

The reason Beck and O'Reilly are great fits for Fox are because while they have conservative and traditionalist ideologies, they are not afraid to go after the GOP as much as the Democrats. Hannity is a one party basher.

[The Overlord]

To a certain extent Glenn Beck fits that wing, though he isn't really Libertarian with his social conservatism.

Beck is a jerk and he thinks he is a way funnier then he is. You aren't a ****ing comedian Beck, stop acting like one!


The reason Beck and O'Reilly are great fits for Fox are because while they have conservative and traditionalist ideologies, they are not afraid to go after the GOP as much as the Democrats. Hannity is a one party basher.

O'Reilly is an jerk, just hire someone who isn't an jerk. The war Christmas is such BS and bashing the french just makes you look like a douche. Can they hire someone who isn't a jerk, because neither Beck or O'Reilly are thoughtful or civil in anyway.

Plus personally I hate traditionalism, a lot.

[Kelly]

Beck is a jerk and he thinks he is a way funnier then he is. You aren't a ****ing comedian Beck, stop acting like one!



O'Reilly is an jerk, just hire someone who isn't an jerk. The war Christmas is such BS and bashing the french just makes you look like a douche. Can they hire someone who isn't a jerk, because neither Beck or O'Reilly are thoughtful or civil in anyway.

Plus personally I hate traditionalism, a lot.


Maybe they could hire you.....:dry:

[Marx]

Maybe they could hire you.....:dry:

:wow:

[CelticPredator]

Maybe they could hire you.....:dry:

I want Morgan Freeman to do ALL the news.

[StorminNorman]

Beck is a jerk and he thinks he is a way funnier then he is. You aren't a ****ing comedian Beck, stop acting like one!

I disagree, but being a jerk does not make one bad at your job.



O'Reilly is an jerk, just hire someone who isn't an jerk. The war Christmas is such BS and bashing the french just makes you look like a douche. Can they hire someone who isn't a jerk, because neither Beck or O'Reilly are thoughtful or civil in anyway.

Ratings say they are doing a fine job.

Plus personally I hate traditionalism, a lot.

That's fine.

[Addendum]

When I consider quality of content, I don't look at the ratings

[Kelly]

One man's quality, is another man's trash.....

[StorminNorman]

When I consider quality of content, I don't look at the ratings

Quality is subjective.

[The Overlord]

Maybe they could hire you.....:dry:

Cute, bit seriously how hard it would be for them to hire an non-jerk, someone who is right wing and has his own values, but isn't a jerk about it.

I disagree, but being a jerk does not make one bad at your job.


Not if you want to be taken seriously, if Socrates was a total A-hole, then no one would have cared when he was executed. They are infotainmeners, not real political thinkers. They are like the MacDonald of politics, MacDonalds is popular, but it barely qualifies as food.





Ratings say they are doing a fine job.


.

Being popular doesn't been you are good at your job, Britney Spears was the most popular singer in the world at one point, does that make her the best singer in the world. I think Fox News does best in the ratings, because their 50+ demo is more likely to watch cabal news then anyone else, young people will likely get their news from the internet instead.

Would it really kill Fox to try something different and hire someone who has passionate views, but is a bit more civil and thoughtful about it?

[Sebastos]

I love Anderson Cooper, I can't stand Campbell Brown....

Yeah Cooper is good. Who I also like watching is Fareed Zakaria. Very good show, makes you think and always recommends a good book to read after his show.

I never watch Fox News, unless maybe a certain politican or celebrity is interviewed on there. But even then I'll just YouTube it.

I mostly watch CNN. I'll watch in the afternoon with Tony Harris and Kyra Phillips, and sometimes I'll catch Campbell Brown, Lou Dobbs and Cooper later in the day if I can.

I don't watch MSNBC at all... well, unless Contessa Brewer is on. :heart::heart:

Nora. :o:heart:

[CelticPredator]

MSNBC is too much like the opposite of Fox to me now. They have the same stupid graphics on their show. Its annoying.

[SsM]

Cute, bit seriously how hard it would be for them to hire an non-jerk, someone who is right wing and has his own values, but isn't a jerk about it.



Not if you want to be taken seriously, if Socrates was a total A-hole, then no one would have cared when he was executed. They are infotainmeners, not real political thinkers. They are like the MacDonald of politics, MacDonalds is popular, but it barely qualifies as food.







Being popular doesn't been you are good at your job, Britney Spears was the most popular singer in the world at one point, does that make her the best singer in the world. I think Fox News does best in the ratings, because their 50+ demo is more likely to watch cabal news then anyone else, young people will likely get their news from the internet instead.

Would it really kill Fox to try something different and hire someone who has passionate views, but is a bit more civil and thoughtful about it?


First off: Man, where did you learn how to spell and form sentences? They did a horrible job teaching you!


Second. Have you ever watched Huckabee? He is probably the nicest most respectful person on Fox News. He is VERY passionate but at the same time he treats EVERYONE with dignity and respect. So no, It would NOT kill FOX because they already have people like that.

Just because Beck is a dick doesn't mean he doesn't make sense. Lots of the things he says are true and some of the stories he shows don't have anything to do with politics and they show how nice he actually is.

As for Bill O' Reilly. I don't like him.. He is a jerk.. He comes off as a dick to people that agree with him and people that disagree with him... At least he's consistent I guess :/

[redfirebird2008]

Man, where did you learn how to spell and form a sentences? They did a horrible job teaching you!

Pot, meet kettle.

[SsM]

Ha, I totally tried to catch that before I posted the reply too :P

[Kelly]

Yeah, I pretty much stopped highlighting people's grammar and spelling. Everytime I ended up eating my words......and then of course.....my habit of ... *wink*

[SsM]

As for the news though.. I've pretty much stopped watching it all together. Its either

"Obama is destroying America" or... "Long live our savior Obama" I'm tired of it :(

[StorminNorman]

Not if you want to be taken seriously, if Socrates was a total A-hole, then no one would have cared when he was executed. They are infotainmeners, not real political thinkers. They are like the MacDonald of politics, MacDonalds is popular, but it barely qualifies as food.

They are commentators, not political thinkers. I...don't think they want to be anything else. Yes, McDonalds is popular - and for fast food its good fast food. Now is it gourmet? Of course not, but its not trying to be either.

Being popular doesn't been you are good at your job, Britney Spears was the most popular singer in the world at one point, does that make her the best singer in the world. I think Fox News does best in the ratings, because their 50+ demo is more likely to watch cabal news then anyone else, young people will likely get their news from the internet instead.

Actually popularity is the best way to tell who is good at their jobs. Britney Spears was a great entertainer. Now was she a great singer? Its irrelevant. She was good at her job (that job being selling albums). Fox News is the best at their job. Fox News job is not to report the news, CNN's job isn't to report the news, MSNBC's job isn't to report the news.

Would it really kill Fox to try something different and hire someone who has passionate views, but is a bit more civil and thoughtful about it?
When your on top, why bother changing your system?

[The Overlord]

First off: Man, where did you learn how to spell and form sentences? They did a horrible job teaching you!

Judge not, lest ye be judged. Maybe you should work on your grammar before tearing into someone, hmmmm?


Second. Have you ever watched Huckabee? He is probably the nicest most respectful person on Fox News. He is VERY passionate but at the same time he treats EVERYONE with dignity and respect. So no, It would NOT kill FOX because they already have people like that.

Does he have own show there?


Just because Beck is a dick doesn't mean he doesn't make sense. Lots of the things he says are true and some of the stories he shows don't have anything to do with politics and they show how nice he actually is..

He does act like a jerk a lot and his funny voices are just annoying, I can't take him seriously.

They are commentators, not political thinkers. I...don't think they want to be anything else. Yes, McDonalds is popular - and for fast food its good fast food. Now is it gourmet? Of course not, but its not trying to be either.

But its certainly not something you would show as an example of fine dining in America or dining at all. If you wanted argue about whether American dining expereinces were good or bad, you would never bring up McDonalds. Same deal with these guys, they exist and they are popular, but they are not good examples of political discourse in America.



Actually popularity is the best way to tell who is good at their jobs. Britney Spears was a great entertainer. Now was she a great singer? Its irrelevant. She was good at her job (that job being selling albums). Fox News is the best at their job. Fox News job is not to report the news, CNN's job isn't to report the news, MSNBC's job isn't to report the news.

I would hope that would be their job. But regardless, they may be popular, but they weren't worthy of any real consideration when compared to actual important political thinkers. I may not agree with Buckley, but I realize that was actual thinker trying to promote important ideas, not some showman trying to sell his book. That's a used car salesman, not someone you would take seriously.


When your on top, why bother changing your system?

This why a lot of other countries consider the American TV news industry a bit of joke, they care more about selling crap and being shocking, then actual intellectual content.

[CelticPredator]

As for the news though.. I've pretty much stopped watching it all together. Its either

"Obama is destroying America" or... "Long live our savior Obama" I'm tired of it :(

Yep.

I'm in the "Obama is cool, and I hope he does well" boat.

[BlackLantern]

I've watched Huckabees show twice I think....he is very nice and extremely professional....

[Sebastos]

I find that the show isn't needed.

[SsM]

Yep.

I'm in the "Obama is cool, and I hope he does well" boat.


I'm in the "Obama is our President, I sure as hell hope he does well!" boat.

[SsM]

Does he have own show there?



He does act like a jerk a lot and his funny voices are just annoying, I can't take him seriously.









Yep, you should check him out. It's on Sunday nights.

Well, I guess you just have to take him with a grain of salt. He does have good stuff though if you can get past his personality.

[chaseter]

I find that the show isn't needed.
It isn't needed but a lot of political shows aren't needed so:o

[BlackLantern]

Quality is subjective.

Yes...there are people out there who swear Rachel Maddow is the devil, these are the same people who will follow Bill O'Reilly to the ends of the earth

[chaseter]

Yes...there are people out there who swear Rachel Maddow is the devil, these are the same people who will follow Bill O'Reilly to the ends of the earth
Ugh no:huh: Rachel Maddow is the devil but Bill O'Reilley is just as evil. Political pandering to partisanship politics is stupid and both are equally involved.

[dnno1]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/business/media/06news.html

If there was anyone I wouldn't bail out, it would be these guys.

[Malice]

I always thought Hillary was the devil...damn I was wrong...she must be the Ghost of Christmas Evil

[CelticPredator]

They're all evil? But Bill is the evil-ested....ed.

Morgan Freeman needs to do the news. Like I said. Cuz he is God.

[Kelly]

I hope alot of you know where you are going when you die, because according to your posts......if its hell, you'll be watching Fox for eternity.......:hehe:

[DV8]

I would dare say that's only because people want to see how badly they spin things.

That's why I watch!! I just like to see what kind of negative things they have to say . . .

[CelticPredator]

Fox News...in Wal-Mart. THAT is hell.

[Malice]

They're all evil? But Bill is the evil-ested....ed.

Morgan Freeman needs to do the news. Like I said. Cuz he is God.

Man....I agree...
Morgan for President...just because of his voice!

[CelticPredator]

Of course...I dont want a metor hitting during the time of his presidentcy.....

[StorminNorman]

Ugh no:huh: Rachel Maddow is the devil but Bill O'Reilley is just as evil. Political pandering to partisanship politics is stupid and both are equally involved.

But Bill O'Reilly isn't partisan. :huh:

[SsM]

Bill O'Reilly is an independent.

[BlackLantern]

Bill is just an old cranky white guy....that's how Ive always viewed him

[StorminNorman]

Bill IS a cranky old Irish guy - but he's one that complains about both parties.

[BlackLantern]

to credit Maddow seems to be beating up both sides fairly....Olbermann on the other hand frightens me....go back to sports Keith please

[CelticPredator]

Bill IS a cranky old Irish guy - but he's one that complains about both parties.

He could be as liberal as he could be...but he's still an ass. I cant stand how he treats his guests. Esp that one kid who's parents died on 9/11. He just had a opinion. But Billo just attacked him, and wanted to kick his ass. :whatever:

[hippie_hunter]

I hope alot of you know where you are going when you die, because according to your posts......if its hell, you'll be watching Fox for eternity.......:hehe:

http://colbertnoooooo.ytmnd.com/

http://darthno.ytmnd.com/

http://spaceghostno.ytmnd.com/

[chaseter]

But Bill O'Reilly isn't partisan. :huh:
You can say that to yourself all you want:o Bill leans more to the right than he does the left. I would call him a moderate or liberal Republican before I call him an independant.

[StorminNorman]

You can say that to yourself all you want:o Bill leans more to the right than he does the left. I would call him a moderate or liberal Republican before I call him an independant.

The thing is doing so would be incorrect. If you really think O'Reilly simply blasts democrats then you don't watch his TV show and you certainly didn't listen to his radio show. The guy constantly complained about Bush, his staff and leading Republicans. To try to state anything otherwise is as incorrect as arguing the sky is red.

[chaseter]

The thing is doing so would be incorrect. If you really think O'Reilly simply blasts democrats then you don't watch his TV show and you certainly didn't listen to his radio show. The guy constantly complained about Bush, his staff and leading Republicans. To try to state anything otherwise is as incorrect as arguing the sky is red.
I do watch his show and to say he is just as critical of republicans as he is democrats I believe is unfounded:o

[Sebastos]

It isn't needed but a lot of political shows aren't needed so:o

Yeah true. I'd rather watch two hours of Keith than having Rachel Maddow right after.

[CelticPredator]

Weather you like or hate him, Keith can say some pretty interesting things in his rants....

[Kelly]

http://colbertnoooooo.ytmnd.com/

http://darthno.ytmnd.com/

http://spaceghostno.ytmnd.com/


Oooooooh Yes....

[hippie_hunter]

Oooooooh Yes....

NOOOOO!!! (http://colbertnoooooo.ytmnd.com/)

[Sebastos]

Weather you like or hate him, Keith can say some pretty interesting things in his rants....

His rants are great. :hehe:

[danielisthor]

Happy Birthday to Glenn Beck.

[Addendum]

The thing is doing so would be incorrect. If you really think O'Reilly simply blasts democrats then you don't watch his TV show and you certainly didn't listen to his radio show. The guy constantly complained about Bush, his staff and leading Republicans. To try to state anything otherwise is as incorrect as arguing the sky is red.

So did Celldog. That didn't make him any less partisan

[StorminNorman]

Fox Continues To Dominate TV Ratings

CABLE NEWS RACE
TUES NITE, FEB 11, 2009
VIEWERS

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,494,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,658,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,370,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,305,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 2,190,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 1,847,000
CNN KING 1,761,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,485,000
CNN COOPER 1,286,000
CNN BLITZER 1,246,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,240,000

[Addendum]

So they had to create a separate category for cable news? Guess they got tired of losing out to the WWF

[Superman]

Fox Continues To Dominate TV Ratings

CABLE NEWS RACE
TUES NITE, FEB 11, 2009
VIEWERS

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,494,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,658,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,370,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,305,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 2,190,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 1,847,000
CNN KING 1,761,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,485,000
CNN COOPER 1,286,000
CNN BLITZER 1,246,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,240,000Link?

[Sebastos]

I would like a link too. :o

[SsM]

That Shep... strange guy...

[dnno1]

Fox Continues To Dominate TV Ratings

CABLE NEWS RACE
TUES NITE, FEB 11, 2009
VIEWERS

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,494,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,658,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,370,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,305,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 2,190,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 1,847,000
CNN KING 1,761,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,485,000
CNN COOPER 1,286,000
CNN BLITZER 1,246,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,240,000

Link?

Well, O'Reilly had more than 4 million viewers last week according to Nielsen Media Research (http://www.nielsenmedia.com/nc/portal/site/Public/menuitem.43afce2fac27e890311ba0a347a062a0/?show=%2FFilters%2FPublic%2Ftop_tv_ratings%2Fcable _tv&vgnextoid=9e4df9669fa14010VgnVCM100000880a260aRCRD ), but their website doesn't list anything outside of the top 10 for cable shows that week - not only cable programs (Bill O was ranked 10th behind reruns of "The Closer", "Burn Notice", "Monk", "WWE Raw", "ICarly", and "NCIS"). It could very well be the case that the ratings accross the board are higher this past week because of the President's first primetime press conference (which had over 49 million viewers accross all news channels) and there is a lot of interest in the debate over the stimulus bill. In truth, FOX News is not a real news network since it is nothing more than a propaganda outlet for the Republican party. You can tell the real measure of the quality of a news channel by the number of journalism awards they get and not their ratings. That's for entertainment shows.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

And that's a good thing?


No.

But it's Truth. For anyone to think that it's just the younger generation that doesn't know ****....is...well....********....


So you would have backed any direction President Bush undertakes simply because his success would translate into America's success? I highly disagree. Let's say that Pres. Bush believed that overall income tax rates were too low. So, he wants to start by raising the corporate tax rate to 70%. If he did so, I can guarantee that we would see the beginning of a flood of corporations relocating overseas, taking billions in net income and millions of jobs along with them. The effect in this scenario, I think you and I can agree on, would be strongly negative for our country. Then, he would raise the tax rates for all brackets by 10% except for the top bracket--that would raise overall back to 90%. This would have a profound impact on savings, spending, and capital investment. This would also have a horrendously negative impact on the well-being of the citizenry.



Backing Bush on EVERYTHING and wanting the man to have a sucessful presidency are two different things.

Again, YES. I would have very much have liked Bush to have a successful presidency.

If he were sucessful, the country would be better off for it. Isn't that how a sucessful presidency is judged? On how the country was run and where it is from where it's been??

Or maybe you consider a sucessful presidency to be getting all his bills passed and ratified.

Not me, though.


Incompetence. MSNBC had Rod Blagojevich as a Republican. Things like this are probably more along the lines of a simple mistake than bias. The people they hire as commentators are a better judge on a networks bias such as Fox News having Hannity and O'Reilly and MSNBC having Olbermann and Maddow.


Where did they have Rod as a Republican?? What show? When?

Because I watch that channel all the time. Never realized it. For what its worth, neither MSNBC, FOX NEWS, or CNN seem to nail B-Rod for being a Dem...or a crooked Dem but more a crooked Politician, from what I've seen.

Has anyone seen "Hate Hannity" hotline thing that was show on Hannity's show.

So awesome lol/


Yeah....it's pretty funny.

He doesn't give a **** what you think....

Really all it is doing, is making him look good, and his haters look like idiots...:o


I don't think it does anything but entertain.

Really.

I'd like to see that actually.


I'd like to see that myself as well. I'd like to see if he just pretends to be tough, with his anger outbreaks...or if he actually does throw down.

Well what else is Middle america going to watch?....the short haired homosexicle on MSNBC or the silver haired homosexicle on CNN?? theyre scared someone is going to bust into their house and violate them so they cling to Sean Hannity and Papa Bear to protect them


The Silver Fox is gay?

And Homosexicle? Is that like how the kids are writing it these days or something??

The Silver Fox is awesome nontheless.

And I think Maddow is bi. She totally hit on one of the guys, an ex Marine I think, who was a guest on her show once.

the only thing I like on Fox is 'Red Eye' and I only catch it saturday or sunday night because they air it at 12....as opposed to during the week when its on at 2 or 3 in the am


It's pretty damn funny, yeah. I like it, usually.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Beck is a jerk and he thinks he is a way funnier then he is. You aren't a ****ing comedian Beck, stop acting like one!


He's damn disrespectful too.

He had on a guy from PETA, who is a vegan. The moment the man starts talking about the dangers of eating meat...because the guy is on a satellite feed and can't see Beck, Beck begins to motions his hands like a yapping mouth and he rolls his eyes. Someone in the backgrounds starts laughing, and he does it again and then cuts the guy off by saying "yap yap yap, whatever".

I mean, I'm not a vegan. I'm a ****ing carnivore. But I think it's ****ed up to have a guy on your show and just embarass the person like that just because you don't agree with him. It's just ****ed up, and that's one of the major turn offs of Fox News. They like to to just be mean spirited and tear the other person down.

I honestly think MSNBC is more civil. Again, I've never seen them shout down a person for having an opinion, I've never seen them cut someone's mic off for disagreeing with them, or be as disrespectful as Beck was to the guy from PETA.

I mean, if I'm wrong and MSNBC has done those things...please, let me know. But, I can say that MSNBC is filled with a bunch of pricks who behave in a pricky manner.

Hey, maybe it's part of they're selling point. Maybe people love to see it.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Ugh no:huh: Rachel Maddow is the devil but Bill O'Reilley is just as evil. Political pandering to partisanship politics is stupid and both are equally involved.

Why is Maddow JUST as evil as O'Reily?

I think Maddow is more toned down than Hannity or O'Reily.

to credit Maddow seems to be beating up both sides fairly....Olbermann on the other hand frightens me....go back to sports Keith please

Yes, Maddow critcized the Dems too.

She criticized the Obama Administration in a part of the show the other night.

Olbermann is a liberal attack dog. Pure and simple. He attacks everyone and everything Republican. He's the ONLY one that does, really. Whereas there's quite a few that T-Bag the Dems on a daily basis.

But Bill O'Reilly isn't partisan. :huh:

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Yeah true. I'd rather watch two hours of Keith than having Rachel Maddow right after.

I love Rachel.

Yeah, I said it. I love Rachel. She's awesome. And funny.

That Shep... strange guy...

Coolest guy on FOX NEWS. I like him.

[Kelly]

As far as Fox.....I guess the easiest way to put it for myself is....

I like to watch Fox from 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. and 9:00 p.m. to 10 p.m.

Fox Morning show, sucks....the weekend talk shows suck, and their nightly talk shows suck except for Greta.

IMHO.

[StorminNorman]

Link?

I would like a link too. :o

It was on the front page of the Drudge Report that day. No link.

[BlackLantern]

http://gawker.com/5153240/fox-news-fires-producer-charged-with-child-porn

it's about standards, people

[BlackLantern]

Ive met Rachel Maddow....she's very nice and terribly flirty, but she is %100 gay....

I like Sheppard Smith...not sure why, but I like him

[Kelly]

Ive met Rachel Maddow....she's very nice and terribly flirty, but she is %100 gay....

I like Sheppard Smith...not sure why, but I like him


I've always liked his sarcasm, its alot like mine.....so I guess I'm attracted to that....


But, I really began to respect him with his coverage of Katrina. I will never forget when he was up on the I10 bridge in New Orleans, and behind him was the body of an elderly man that was trying to get out of New Orleans, and died on the bridge. Sheppard Smith railed at the government, I mean.......let the government HAVE IT, all governments, National, State, Local....HE WAS PISSED.....he started choking up and it was so real......not like Geraldo's crying.......this was real, he was pleading with the government. I've never seen anything like that. He got control very quickly, but there was that glimpse at his heart, that was very vunerable and I respect him for that.

Another person I like is Julie Banderas, she interviewed one of the leaders of that church that pickets soldiers funerals....


here is the interview....it's at the end of this section......she interviews the father of a soldier first, and then a woman from Westbrook Baptist...

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And a funny as hell blooper from Shep himself.....

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[ChrisBaleBatman]

Ive met Rachel Maddow....she's very nice and terribly flirty, but she is %100 gay....

or bi.

Sigh...a man can dream. a man can dream.

she does seem pretty flirty with certain guys I've seen on the show.

Usually the ex-soliders.

I like Sheppard Smith...not sure why, but I like him

I honestly do too.

I think it's because he's not pushing anything. He's just calling it how he SEES it.

I like that.

The Silver Fox is pretty cool too. Although...he's gay? I didn't know.

Wolf Blitzer is pretty cool too. Although he can't dance to save his own life.

[Kelly]

I watch Wolf.....

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Cool name.

[Kelly]

I was actually watching Fox news when Shep made that blooper I showed above....I have not laughed that hard in a long time.....

[chaseter]

or bi.

Sigh...a man can dream. a man can dream.
She would make you cry:o:woot: She looks like she is the one in charge in the bedroom if ya know what I mean. But she is totally fugly so moot point.

[Kelly]

*sighs*

I often wonder if there will be any thread around here, that doesn't lead to this...lol

[CelticPredator]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/CelticPredator/Bilsa.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/CelticPredator/boils.jpg

[Kelly]

Ha...

[ChrisBaleBatman]

What'd he think about the Bale rant?

Because if there was anyone who would be 100% on Bale's side, I'd imagine it'd be the guy who has a rant every other week.

[chaseter]

There is a youtube video of Bale vs. O'Reilley and they mixed up the Bill rant with the Bale rant...quite funny:)

[BlackLantern]

I prefer Bill O's rant....

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Yeah, I saw that on Olbermann.

Very funny.

[danielisthor]

Beck just tossed a couple of Republican's under the bus on pork spending in their states along with Biden and Obama. It was kind of funny watching him rail on them.

[Kelly]

Yep, O'Reilly and Beck have been railing on both Republicans and Democrats on the pork.

[SuBe]

Beck is a Conservative first, before Republican. O'Reilly is just an ass.

[CelticPredator]

Yeah, I could careless if he's left or right...he's an *******.

[Kelly]

But he's the ******* that did the best interviews of the candidates....during the campaign.

[StorminNorman]

Bill O'Reilly should moderate Presidential debates. I'm serious.

[CelticPredator]

But he's the ******* that did the best interviews of the candidates....during the campaign.

I watched one of them....didnt like it. Cut off the person too much, felt like he was right. I dont like that. Feel like typing like Rorschach. :hehe:

[redfirebird2008]

Bill O'Reilly should moderate Presidential debates. I'm serious.

I would agree with that, so long as he doesn't lob softballs to one side while nailing the other. If he's downright rude to everyone and forces them to answer tough questions regardless of who they are, I'd be all for it. That's what a moderator needs to do. Don't let the candidate get away with BS talking points.

[Kelly]

I watched one of them....didnt like it. Cut off the person too much, felt like he was right. I dont like that. Feel like typing like Rorschach. :hehe:

Yes he does that quite often, but I think we must have watched different interviews with the candidates. The candidates themselves said that his interview was very fair. So, I think they might have been in a different interview than you saw as well.:word:

[SsM]

I think Bill O Reilly is an *******... BUT he is very fair to everyone. So let him be an *******. He is right most of the time anyway.

[Addendum]

I think Bill O Reilly is an *******... BUT he is very fair to everyone. So let him be an *******. He is right most of the time anyway.

If by "right" you mean "utter something without making sure it's correct before you say it" then I agree

[CelticPredator]

Yes he does that quite often, but I think we must have watched different interviews with the candidates. The candidates themselves said that his interview was very fair. So, I think they might have been in a different interview than you saw as well.:word:

It was with Obama, and they talked a ton about socialism...

I just cannot like the guy. I dont think he's fair...and I dont mean left or right far, I mean threatening the interviewee because he has a different view. He's also insanly rude to the atheists....I mean, he doesnt have to agree...but c'mon. (And yeah, some of them are just as rude...but a few i've seen, it was all BillO.

[bunk]

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This hurts my head...

[redfirebird2008]

Olbermann completely *****-slapped Glenn Beck on his Worst Persons segment tonight. Beck has apparently ranted multiple times that carbon sequestration is part of the "pork" in the stimulus bill. Uh...Beck supports clean coal. Carbon sequestration is what goes on in producing clean coal. Olbermann called him a nitwit for directly contradicting himself and apparently not understanding that clean coal is the same damn thing as carbon sequestration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUdgQXOwCLQ

[CaptainClown]

I actually like the notion of Bill O moderating.

[CelticPredator]

"No, shut up....SHUT UP. I'm talking...no shut up you pinhead. I SAID SHUT UP! If you dont, i'll beat the **** outta you, you unamerican piece of scum!"



Yes. I'd love him to moderate. It would be the most entertaining thing of all time.

[CaptainClown]

exactly ^

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Would be 100% more entertaining than what we usually get.

[Shifty]

Glenn Beck having a television show on Fox News is more dangerous than having a secret Muslim American president.

Thankfully Colbert is here to mock him. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/05/icolbert-reporti-takes-gl_n_172088.html)

[ChrisBaleBatman]

LOL.

That was a thing a beauty.

"If Obama is right, it's gun in the mouth time for you, isn't it?"

[The Overlord]

Fox News has decided to make fun the work Canadian soldiers are doing in Afghanistan. http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Canada/2009/03/22/8847116.html

This is lovely, this every ugly stereotype people across world have about American conservatives reinforced by the people at Fox News. This is why a lot people in other countries don't like American conservatives, shows like these reinforce the idea that American conservatives have no respect for other countries, yet demand them to give absolute fealty to America, that other countries should be America's slaves instead of allies, merely doing what they are told and never expressing their own opinions.

Its like the people on this show think Canada's natural and military resources are just at America's beck and call, that Canada has no right to be a sovereign country. Here's a news flash, attitudes like this is why anti Americanism exists in many other countries.

Canada is fighting in the worst part of Afghanistan as more of favour to the US then anything else, its not like Canadian interests get served in this conflict. Perhaps the people at Fox News should learn to be grateful when other countries try and do you a favour.

[Kelly]

Fox News has decided to make fun the work Canadian soldiers are doing in Afghanistan. http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Canada/2009/03/22/8847116.html

This is lovely, this every ugly stereotype people across world have about American conservatives reinforced by the people at Fox News. This is why a lot people in other countries don't like American conservatives, shows like these reinforce the idea that American conservatives have no respect for other countries, yet demand them to give absolute fealty to America, that other countries should be America's slaves instead of allies, merely doing what they are told and never expressing their own opinions.

Its like the people on this show think Canada's natural and military resources are just at America's beck and call, that Canada has no right to be a sovereign country. Here's a news flash, attitudes like this is why anti Americanism exists in many other countries.

Canada is fighting in the worst part of Afghanistan as more of favour to the US then anything else, its not like Canadian interests get served in this conflict. Perhaps the people at Fox News should learn to be grateful when other countries try and do you a favour.


Really they are only doing it as a favor to us? Really? Wow..........

[The Overlord]

Really they are only doing it as a favor to us? Really? Wow..........

Care to tell me how Canada's interests are served by the mission in Afghanistan? What does Canada get out of it?

Anyway Canada is in Afghanistan because of our commitment to the NATO alliance, America was attacked by terrorists from Afghanistan, so as part of the NATO alliance Canada helped in the action in Afghanistan. But Canada has been doing a lot of the heavy lifting in Afghanistan recently, while Bush was going off to have an adventure in Iraq. France and Germany are stationed in the north, where there is very little trouble and some countries never leave their bases. Canada is fighting in the South, where all the real danger is, we don't have to fight the south, we could go to the North where its safe, but someone has to do the dirty work in the south.

So yeah Canada is doing America a favour, Canada is fighting the tough battles in the south, while a lot of other countries staying the North where its way safer and Bush decided to ignore a lot of what happened in Afghanistan so he could have adventure in Iraq.

Then Fox News turns around and spits on the graves of the dead Canadian soldiers who served in Afghanistan, belittling their sacrifice, how is that okay?

[StorminNorman]

Fox News has decided to make fun the work Canadian soldiers are doing in Afghanistan. http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Canada/2009/03/22/8847116.html

This is lovely, this every ugly stereotype people across world have about American conservatives reinforced by the people at Fox News. This is why a lot people in other countries don't like American conservatives, shows like these reinforce the idea that American conservatives have no respect for other countries, yet demand them to give absolute fealty to America, that other countries should be America's slaves instead of allies, merely doing what they are told and never expressing their own opinions.

Its like the people on this show think Canada's natural and military resources are just at America's beck and call, that Canada has no right to be a sovereign country. Here's a news flash, attitudes like this is why anti Americanism exists in many other countries.

Canada is fighting in the worst part of Afghanistan as more of favour to the US then anything else, its not like Canadian interests get served in this conflict. Perhaps the people at Fox News should learn to be grateful when other countries try and do you a favour.

How many :whatever:'s are we allowed to make in a single post?

:whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever:

Red Eye isn't "Fox News", its a "comedy" show that comes on at mid night when no one is watching.

Any Canadian that gets offended at this needs to get over it. Please. Jokes are made about Americans all the time, jokes are made about everyone all the time. Who cares?

[The Overlord]

How many :whatever:'s are we allowed to make in a single post?

:whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever:

Red Eye isn't "Fox News", its a "comedy" show that comes on at mid night when no one is watching.

Any Canadian that gets offended at this needs to get over it. Please. Jokes are made about Americans all the time, jokes are made about everyone all the time. Who cares?

First why is a comedy show on on Fox. I saw Monica Crowley on that show and I'm pretty sure she is supposed to be a serious pundit.

And second, if CBC news world decided to show a comedy show, where a Canadian comedian made fun of dead American soldiers in Iraq, would Americans not find that offensive? Double standard much.

Its not the fact they are making of Canada that is offensive, its the fact they are making fun of Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan who giving lives for this mission. There were 4 more dead Canadian soldiers coming home, I guess that's a big funny joke, let's make fun of their grieving families too.

I supporting your troops should only be done by Americans, because Canada is clearly an inferior country and their sacrifice is irrelevant.

If you don't think that making fun of soldiers who gave their lives for their country isn't offensive, then let me send you some of these :whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever:.

[hippie_hunter]

CNN had comedian DL Hughley have his own show.

[The Overlord]

CNN had comedian DL Hughley have his own show.

Well that's stupid, that's why the US news media is messed up, they often seem more intrested in putting on a circus show rather telling the day's events.

Regardless I see nothing cute or funny in making fun of the work Canadian troops are doing in Afghanistan, being a total A-hole doesn't make you funny.

[C.F. Kane]

How many :whatever:'s are we allowed to make in a single post?

:whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever:

Red Eye isn't "Fox News", its a "comedy" show that comes on at mid night when no one is watching.

Any Canadian that gets offended at this needs to get over it. Please. Jokes are made about Americans all the time, jokes are made about everyone all the time. Who cares?

Obviously, the Canadians care when citizens of their supposed ally mock their troops in the field and suggest invading their country as a joke.

Really, even comedians have a code of ethics.

Unless you really don't care about jokes made at a soldier's expense. In which case:

How much armor does an American soldier wear?
None. Their fat can stop bullets before they hit anything.

[The Overlord]

Obviously, the Canadians care when citizens of their supposed ally mock their troops in the field and suggest invading their country as a joke.

Really, even comedians have a code of ethics.

Unless you really don't care about jokes made at a soldier's expense. In which case:

How much armor does an American soldier wear?
None. Their fat can stop bullets before they hit anything.

Exactly, thank you. If people aren't going to be grateful for the role Canada is playing in Afghanistan, maybe Canada should leave tommorrow, then the US can try to have their overextented military handle the whole thing by itself or we can get the panel members themselves on the battle field.

Storming Norman doesn't seem get the double standard playing out here, I bet he would be really mad if a Canadian pundit called US soldiers in Iraq lazy, but no, its all joke, so its no big deal that the people on the show spat on the graves of dead Canadian soldiers.

[Bathead]

Definitley a double standard. If anyone had made fun of American soldiers like that, they would have been vilified as being insensitive and unpatriotic. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

[StorminNorman]

First why is a comedy show on on Fox. I saw Monica Crowley on that show and I'm pretty sure she is supposed to be a serious pundit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Eye_w/_Greg_Gutfeld

And second, if CBC news world decided to show a comedy show, where a Canadian comedian made fun of dead American soldiers in Iraq, would Americans not find that offensive? Double standard much.

People make fun of Americans all the time.

Its not the fact they are making of Canada that is offensive, its the fact they are making fun of Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan who giving lives for this mission. There were 4 more dead Canadian soldiers coming home, I guess that's a big funny joke, let's make fun of their grieving families too.

They weren't mocking deceased soldiers, they were mocking alive ones. I am not defending the joke, it was a stupid joke, but my objection is to the idea that this shows Fox News is a terrible network blah blah blah.

I supporting your troops should only be done by Americans, because Canada is clearly an inferior country and their sacrifice is irrelevant.

At least you are understanding.

If you don't think that making fun of soldiers who gave their lives for their country isn't offensive, then let me send you some of these :whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever:.

Again, they weren't mocking dead soldiers.

Well that's stupid, that's why the US news media is messed up, they often seem more intrested in putting on a circus show rather telling the day's events.

Both are on late nights. When no one watches the news.

Regardless I see nothing cute or funny in making fun of the work Canadian troops are doing in Afghanistan, being a total A-hole doesn't make you funny.

It works for a lot people.

[StorminNorman]

Definitley a double standard. If anyone had made fun of American soldiers like that, they would have been vilified as being insensitive and unpatriotic. Hypocrisy at it's finest.\

It's not unpatriotic for an American to make fun of a Canadian.

Its insensitive, of course, but no unpatriotic.

[The Overlord]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Eye_w/_Greg_Gutfeld



People make fun of Americans all the time.

So you think it would be ok if Canadians made fun of the work American soldiers were doing in Iraq, saying they were all lazy sissies, that mocks the sacrifice they are doing.



They weren't mocking deceased soldiers, they were mocking alive ones. I am not defending the joke, it was a stupid joke, but my objection is to the idea that this shows Fox News is a terrible network blah blah blah.

They were mocking the work were doing saying that all the Canadian soldiers were just goofing off there, that completely undermines the sacrifice the Canadian soldier who died made and is an insult to their families.





At least you are understanding.

Why should I be, a lot of American conservatives go out of their way to insult Canada every chance they get, why should they get respect they aren't willing to give it?

Why should anyone in the world respect them when they have these jingoist attitudes, they wouldn't respect people from other countries with jingoist attitudes.



Again, they weren't mocking dead soldiers.

They were mocking the work all Canadian soldiers were doing in Afghanistan, that includes the ones who gave their lives, that might as well be saying there aren't really dead Canadian soldiers, because none of the Canadian soldiers were doing any real work.

So when American conservatives say, support the troops, are they are only talking about American troops, no else deserves to have their troops supported, people in other countries who are fighting terrorism should have their troops mocked because they aren't American?



Both are on late nights. When no one watches the news.

Please media outlets in other western countries tend have way less of these infotainment clap trap then the American media.


It works for a lot people.

Yeah because acting like a psychopath is clearly very funny, like when Rush made fun of Michael J. Fox for having Parkinson disease, that was hilarious. :whatever:

\

It's not unpatriotic for an American to make fun of a Canadian.

Its insensitive, of course, but no unpatriotic.

No its just rude, belligerent, ungrateful and jingoistic and lacks any human decency.

Let me ask this if a Canadian pundit said the same thing about American troops that they said about Canadian troops would they be insulted or laugh it off as a joke.

This the double standard these people have, only Americans are allowed to be patriotic, every other country has no right to their own opinions and deserved to mocked and belittled if they ever disagree, that's where we got Freedom Fries.

I swear its like people like those pundits think other western countries should client states, not allies.

[redfirebird2008]

So Glenn Beck is now whining that Obama's toxic assets plan benefits the privileged class? Wait a second. I thought Obama was a socialist who was launching an all-out assault on the so-called "achievers" (aka privileged class) of this country? So which is it? Socialist or friend of the privileged? It seems Obama is still a bit of an enigma for conservatives. They're having a tough time figuring out their next line of attack against him because his policies aren't as hard line as they've been saying for months.

[Kelly]

So Glenn Beck is now whining that Obama's toxic assets plan benefits the privileged class? Wait a second. I thought Obama was a socialist who was launching an all-out assault on the so-called "achievers" (aka privileged class) of this country? So which is it? Socialist or friend of the privileged? It seems Obama is still a bit of an enigma for conservatives. They're having a tough time figuring out their next line of attack against him because his policies aren't as hard line as they've been saying for months.


I just know, I MIGHT HAVE made some money in the stock market the past few days. As long as that continues, I'm a happy camper. Who cares who Glenn Beck is mad at this week.

[redfirebird2008]

I just know, I MIGHT HAVE made some money in the stock market the past few days. As long as that continues, I'm a happy camper. Who cares who Glenn Beck is mad at this week.

Well the stock market is a big Ponzi scheme right now and it will be that way until the credit markets get straightened out. Gold is the best way to go right now. :woot:

[Kelly]

Well the stock market is a big Ponzi scheme right now and it will be that way until the credit markets get straightened out. Gold is the best way to go right now. :woot:

yeah....yeah........yeah. :o:o:hehe:

[dnno1]

I hear Peter Schiff had a lot of money invested in that before he started preaching that the sky was falling.

[Marx]

First why is a comedy show on on Fox. I saw Monica Crowley on that show and I'm pretty sure she is supposed to be a serious pundit.

And second, if CBC news world decided to show a comedy show, where a Canadian comedian made fun of dead American soldiers in Iraq, would Americans not find that offensive? Double standard much.

Its not the fact they are making of Canada that is offensive, its the fact they are making fun of Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan who giving lives for this mission. There were 4 more dead Canadian soldiers coming home, I guess that's a big funny joke, let's make fun of their grieving families too.

I supporting your troops should only be done by Americans, because Canada is clearly an inferior country and their sacrifice is irrelevant.

If you don't think that making fun of soldiers who gave their lives for their country isn't offensive, then let me send you some of these :whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever:.

I thought the FOX News Channel was one big comedy show??? http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon11.gif

I kid, I kid. :oldrazz:

[Ocramed]

So Glenn Beck is now whining that Obama's toxic assets plan benefits the privileged class? Wait a second. I thought Obama was a socialist who was launching an all-out assault on the so-called "achievers" (aka privileged class) of this country? So which is it? Socialist or friend of the privileged? It seems Obama is still a bit of an enigma for conservatives. They're having a tough time figuring out their next line of attack against him because his policies aren't as hard line as they've been saying for months.

Having not seen the actual piece, I can guess that GB is concerned that the Feds just print up $1 Trillion dollars (which will lower the value the dollar even more), in order to "fix" the problems that the Wall Street types caused (with investing and trading in bad loans). And he calls Obama a socialist since, well, he IS using the government to direct the economy through central planning. And the fact that 80 percent AIG is owned the government, and the fact that there is a bill that is being put through the US Congress that would direct business to put caps on bonuses (even if they are not taking Federal aid) is socialism. At the same time, whether or not this is good remains to be seen, but call it what it is, and explain why it's necessary at this time. Don't hide that fact.

O.

[redfirebird2008]

Having not seen the actual piece, I can guess that GB is concerned that the Feds just print up $1 Trillion dollars (which will lower the value the dollar even more), in order to "fix" the problems that the Wall Street types caused (with investing and trading in bad loans). And he calls Obama a socialist since, well, he IS using the government to direct the economy through central planning. And the fact that 80 percent AIG is owned the government, and the fact that there is a bill that is being put through the US Congress that would direct business to put caps on bonuses (even if they are not taking Federal aid) is socialism. At the same time, whether or not this is good remains to be seen, but call it what it is, and explain why it's necessary at this time. Don't hide that fact.

O.


Well, it's corporate welfare at its finest, that's for sure. There's a reason the stock market shot through the roof on Monday. They love the handout they're getting from the government. Meantime, yes, big time inflation is coming. $10+ trillion in debt and Obama's printing trillions more. Value of the dollar is going to plummet at some point in the near future.

[CelticPredator]

I thought the FOX News Channel was one big comedy show??? http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon11.gif

I kid, I kid. :oldrazz:

But....how can you kid, when you speak the truth? :hehe:

[The Overlord]

Again regarding that show about Canada, why is it bad to Anti American, but its ok to be anti Canadian or anti Eurpean, why is one good and the other is bad?

If a Canadian comedian went on CBC news world and said bad things about the US military and then said was a joke, Monica Crowley would be screaming for his head and calling him anti American, but its ok for her to be anti Canadian.

Its like some American conservatives don't understand the concept of treating others the way you want to be treated. Its not the fact that canada was made fun is the problem, the Daily Show makes fun of Canada and no one gets offended. Its the mean spirited mocking of the mission Canadians are doing in Afghansistan that drews so much ire.

I guess I should be happy the host said sorry in a way, but this really makes Canada dislike Fox News: http://www.cbc.ca/arts/tv/story/2009/03/23/redeye-soldiers-mocking.html

[StorminNorman]

So you think it would be ok if Canadians made fun of the work American soldiers were doing in Iraq, saying they were all lazy sissies, that mocks the sacrifice they are doing.

They were mocking the work were doing saying that all the Canadian soldiers were just goofing off there, that completely undermines the sacrifice the Canadian soldier who died made and is an insult to their families.

Why should I be, a lot of American conservatives go out of their way to insult Canada every chance they get, why should they get respect they aren't willing to give it?

Why should anyone in the world respect them when they have these jingoist attitudes, they wouldn't respect people from other countries with jingoist attitudes.



They were mocking the work all Canadian soldiers were doing in Afghanistan, that includes the ones who gave their lives, that might as well be saying there aren't really dead Canadian soldiers, because none of the Canadian soldiers were doing any real work.

So when American conservatives say, support the troops, are they are only talking about American troops, no else deserves to have their troops supported, people in other countries who are fighting terrorism should have their troops mocked because they aren't American?




Please media outlets in other western countries tend have way less of these infotainment clap trap then the American media.



Yeah because acting like a psychopath is clearly very funny, like when Rush made fun of Michael J. Fox for having Parkinson disease, that was hilarious. :whatever:



No its just rude, belligerent, ungrateful and jingoistic and lacks any human decency.

Let me ask this if a Canadian pundit said the same thing about American troops that they said about Canadian troops would they be insulted or laugh it off as a joke.

This the double standard these people have, only Americans are allowed to be patriotic, every other country has no right to their own opinions and deserved to mocked and belittled if they ever disagree, that's where we got Freedom Fries.

I swear its like people like those pundits think other western countries should client states, not allies.

LOLz

[Kelly]

Again regarding that show about Canada, why is it bad to Anti American, but its ok to be anti Canadian or anti Eurpean, why is one good and the other is bad?

If a Canadian comedian went on CBC news world and said bad things about the US military and then said was a joke, Monica Crowley would be screaming for his head and calling him anti American, but its ok for her to be anti Canadian.

Its like some American conservatives don't understand the concept of treating others the way you want to be treated. Its not the fact that canada was made fun is the problem, the Daily Show makes fun of Canada and no one gets offended. Its the mean spirited mocking of the mission Canadians are doing in Afghansistan that drews so much ire.

I guess I should be happy the host said sorry in a way, but this really makes Canada dislike Fox News: http://www.cbc.ca/arts/tv/story/2009/03/23/redeye-soldiers-mocking.html

I guess it comes down to your perspective, and where you live.....

I'm not saying its right, BY ANY MEANS, to demean the service of the Canadian Military....

BUT, you are going to find that in Canada, its cool to slam Americans, in Europe its cool to slam Americans, in America its cool to slam Canadians, the French, the British, the Germans, etc.....etc.......etc......

But it doesn't make it right, just makes it acceptable.

[The Overlord]

LOLz

Good response, that take you all night?:whatever:

Just because you dismiss something doesn't make it any less valid.

So if some Canadian comedian went on CBC news world and said American troops in Iraq were lazy while they were dying, are you saying you wouldn't be offended? What about Monica Crowley, wouldn't she be leading a mob if some Canadian comedian did that?

I would be offended if some Canadian comedian did that, especially on CBC news, because support all the troops fighting, not just some of them, I may not support the policy makers, but I support all the troops.

The Royal Canadian Legion doesn't think this is cute and funny and thinks this is highly offensive, but I guess that doesn't matter, those Canadian veterans who fought WWII just can't take joke, wouldn't you tell them to their faces?

I guess it comes down to your perspective, and where you live.....

I'm not saying its right, BY ANY MEANS, to demean the service of the Canadian Military....

BUT, you are going to find that in Canada, its cool to slam Americans, in Europe its cool to slam Americans, in America its cool to slam Canadians, the French, the British, the Germans, etc.....etc.......etc......

But it doesn't make it right, just makes it acceptable.

The problem is people on Fox News complain about anti Americanism all the time and try to use it as weapon to bludgeon other people in other countries, its not like CBC complains about anti Canadianism all the time.

[StorminNorman]

So if some Canadian comedian went on CBC news world and said American troops in Iraq were lazy while they were dying, are you saying you wouldn't be offended?

Yes, I would call the comedian an idiot and brush it off. Its neither healthy, logical or productive to waste time worrying about the opinions (or jokes) of morons.

What about Monica Crowley, wouldn't she be leading a mob if some Canadian comedian did that?

Probably not. If she did then she's a hypocrite - hooray! I never defended the credibility of those involved, I personally think Red Eye is a waste of air time. My chief points were: A) saying this is a reflection of Fox News is a bit silly since this show isn't apart of their "news coverage" B) People are far too easily offended - a flaw that transcends borders.

I would be offended if some Canadian comedian did that, especially on CBC news, because support all the troops fighting, not just some of them, I may not support the policy makers, but I support all the troops.

Bully for you!

The Royal Canadian Legion doesn't think this is cute and funny and thinks this is highly offensive, but I guess that doesn't matter, those Canadian veterans who fought WWII just can't take joke, wouldn't you tell them to their faces?

*insert Canadian WWII veteran joke here*

The problem is people on Fox News complain about anti Americanism all the time and try to use it as weapon to bludgeon other people in other countries, its not like CBC complains about anti Canadianism all the time.

Bully for them too!

[SsM]

Good response, that take you all night?:whatever:

Just because you dismiss something doesn't make it any less valid.

So if some Canadian comedian went on CBC news world and said American troops in Iraq were lazy while they were dying, are you saying you wouldn't be offended? What about Monica Crowley, wouldn't she be leading a mob if some Canadian comedian did that?

I would be offended if some Canadian comedian did that, especially on CBC news, because support all the troops fighting, not just some of them, I may not support the policy makers, but I support all the troops.

The Royal Canadian Legion doesn't think this is cute and funny and thinks this is highly offensive, but I guess that doesn't matter, those Canadian veterans who fought WWII just can't take joke, wouldn't you tell them to their faces?



The problem is people on Fox News complain about anti Americanism all the time and try to use it as weapon to bludgeon other people in other countries, its not like CBC complains about anti Canadianism all the time.

It's not just Fox News buddy.

I agree with the rest of your sentiments though.

[The Overlord]

Yes, I would call the comedian an idiot and brush it off. Its neither healthy, logical or productive to waste time worrying about the opinions (or jokes) of morons.

Well I think human decency and good taste make people think twice about making fun of certain things. No one thought it was cute or funny when Michael Richardson said the N word and I would be offended if someone made jokes about rape or the Holocaust. That's what non psychopathic human beings do, they consider other people besides themselves and don't try to laugh at other people's misfortune.


Probably not. If she did then she's a hypocrite - hooray! I never defended the credibility of those involved, I personally think Red Eye is a waste of air time. My chief points were: A) saying this is a reflection of Fox News is a bit silly since this show isn't apart of their "news coverage" B) People are far too easily offended - a flaw that transcends borders.

CBC news world wouldn't let garbage like this on the air, it was better standards as to what can get on the air on their channel.



Bully for you!

Bully for me and my human decency standards.



Bully for them too!

Bully for the fact they are vastly superior news organization compared to those ass clowns on Fox.

It seems like most western countries have news media that far less obsessed with putting on a circus show then the US news media.

[StorminNorman]

Well I think human decency and good taste make people think twice about making fun of certain things. No one thought it was cute or funny when Michael Richardson said the N word and I would be offended if someone made jokes about rape or the Holocaust. That's what non psychopathic human beings do, they consider other people besides themselves and don't try to laugh at other people's misfortune.

The reason people got upset about Michael Richardson saying the N word was because he was respected and beloved for his work on Seinfeld. People expected better. I don't expect anything than useless dribble from these people, nor should anyone else really. Red Eye is not a good show and I have never defended them. Again, its neither healthy, logical or productive to waste time worrying about the opinions (or jokes) of morons.

CBC news world wouldn't let garbage like this on the air, it was better standards as to what can get on the air on their channel.

Bully for them!

Bully for me and my human decency standards.

lolz

Bully for the fact they are vastly superior news organization compared to those ass clowns on Fox.

I disagree. I think Fox News's news organization is quite good. I think Fox News's commentary is normally pretty good. I think Fox News's attempt at a comedy show is a failure.

It seems like most western countries have news media that far less obsessed with putting on a circus show then the US news media.

:whatever:

[The Overlord]

The reason people got upset about Michael Richardson saying the N word was because he was respected and beloved for his work on Seinfeld. People expected better. I don't expect anything than useless dribble from these people, nor should anyone else really. Red Eye is not a good show and I have never defended them. Again, its neither healthy, logical or productive to waste time worrying about the opinions (or jokes) of morons.


And how many people watch this show and take these morons seriously, Monica Crowley is supposed a serious pundit, she is on the The McLaughlin Group, which is supposed be a serious show. I think some people get confused when you have serious pundits on your show, say nasty things then claim it was a joke.

Its like when Rush said that Michael J. Fox was just faking his Parkinson, how people are going to believe that and think who have Parkinson disease are fakers, it spreads misinformation.


Bully for them!

You are sounding like a broken record. That's the best you got?



lolz

One lame response, deserves another. :oldrazz:



I disagree. I think Fox News's news organization is quite good. I think Fox News's commentary is normally pretty good. I think Fox News's attempt at a comedy show is a failure.


Care to explain how Fox is better then CBC?

CBC news world has way coverage overall and they actually have in depth coverage of important events around the world. Fox had something called world in a minute, where they try to cover all the important stories of the world, in a minute. That's clearly better coverage of international events. :whatever:

CBC is so superior its not even funny, Fox gave Glenn Beck a show, an emotionally unstable person who is obsessed with the end world. Which seems better the channel with Beck or the one without. :cwink:


:whatever:

Its true, CBC doesn't post the Canadian flag everywhere on its channel, unlike say Fox, the Canadian channels are more reserved and professional, not insecure. Not to mention CBC has no over the top media whore pundits on their channel.

Another thing that Canadian news media it doesn't gaze its on naval all the time it has a lot in depth coverage of international events, that may not directly effect Canada, with Fox its like talking about non American stories is a chore, that's why we get stuff like "World in a minute".

[StorminNorman]

And how many people watch this show and take these morons seriously, Monica Crowley is supposed a serious pundit, she is on the The McLaughlin Group, which is supposed be a serious show. I think some people get confused when you have serious pundits on your show, say nasty things then claim it was a joke.

How about you watch the show and decide if they actually try to present themselves as a real news show.

Care to explain how Fox is better then CBC?

Why does one have to be better than the other?

CBC news world has way coverage overall and they actually have in depth coverage of important events around the world. Fox had something called world in a minute, where they try to cover all the important stories of the world, in a minute. That's clearly better coverage of international events. :whatever:

I haven't watched the CBC and I am not going to insult its coverage - but I do think Fox does a good job at reporting the news as well.

CBC is so superior its not even funny, Fox gave Glenn Beck a show, an emotionally unstable person who is obsessed with the end world. Which seems better the channel with Beck or the one without. :cwink:

Its true, CBC doesn't post the Canadian flag everywhere on its channel, unlike say Fox, the Canadian channels are more reserved and professional, not insecure. Not to mention CBC has no over the top media whore pundits on their channel.

Were you that kid in school that would go around betting your dad could beat up Jonny's dad?

[Bonovox]

I don't watch a lot of cable news, but I saw a video of Glenn Beck's show on YouTube a few weeks ago. He cried twice during the broadcast.

[The Overlord]

How about you watch the show and decide if they actually try to present themselves as a real news show.


I did see it and they were acting like douche bags, but then again I have seen people on Fox acting like douche bags, so its hard to tell the difference. :oldrazz:

I have seen Monica on The McLaughlin Group, she didn't seem to acting different here.


Why does one have to be better than the other?

If you believe in journalistic standards, yes.

If Fox was conservative channel filled with William F. Buckley types, I would have way fewer problems with it, instead of being filled with Bill O'Reillys. I think it comes off as a crass tabloid, it should be more concerned with whether its delivering the best news cast possible, not being the conservative light the evil liberal media sea.



I haven't watched the CBC and I am not going to insult its coverage - but I do think Fox does a good job at reporting the news as well.

Sorry I gotta go with the channel with fewer media whores.

[StorminNorman]

I did see it and they were acting like douche bags, but then again I have seen people on Fox acting like douche bags, so its hard to tell the difference. :oldrazz:

I have seen Monica on The McLaughlin Group, she didn't seem to acting different here.



If you believe in journalistic standards, yes.

If Fox was conservative channel filled with William F. Buckley types, I would have way fewer problems with it, instead of being filled with Bill O'Reillys. I think it comes off as a crass tabloid, it should be more concerned with whether its delivering the best news cast possible, not being the conservative light the evil liberal media sea.




Sorry I gotta go with the channel with fewer media whores.

Lolz.

[The Overlord]

Lolz.

Is that your response whenever you can't counter an argument? :oldrazz:

If you are going to be jokey, I can be jokey, come on, I was even using dismissive happy faces like you do all the time, I was just taking some cues from you. You should be happy.

[StorminNorman]

Is that your response whenever you can't counter an argument? :oldrazz:

If you are going to be jokey, I can be jokey, come on, I was even using dismissive happy faces like you do all the time, I was just taking some cues from you. You should be happy.

I'm not happy, I'm elated.

[The Overlord]

I'm not happy, I'm elated.

But seriously why does Fox news have a double standard when it comes to offense, you say you don't like people who are easily offended, but isn't Fox News offended and outraged all the time? Is it ok for them to be easily offended in your books? They are offended by the term "Happy Holidays" for Christ sake and if Caandian comedian said stuff like this on the CBC about American troops, you better believe Beck and O'Reilly would be offended and shouting about it. How is this not a double standard?

Fox seems to want not to be offended and wants to offend anyone they want, isn't that not hypocritical?

[SuBe]

Beck and O'Reilly are paid to have opinions. It's ok for them to be offended.

[The Overlord]

Beck and O'Reilly are paid to have opinions. It's ok for them to be offended.

Then its ok for the Canadian Royal Legion to be offended, because they represent the interests of Canadian vets, to the point of the organization to is to champsion Canadian soldiers. Why shouldn't they be offended, if people at Fox News are going to take offense at every little thing, I think its okay for the Caandian Royal Legion to take offense at this.

If O'Reilly can organize boycott of France because of their stance on the war, why can't Canadians organize a boycott of Fox?

[SuBe]

Then its ok for the Canadian Royal Legion to be offended, because they represent the interests of Canadian vets, to the point of the organization to is to champsion Canadian soldiers. Why shouldn't they be offended, if people at Fox News are going to take offense at every little thing, I think its okay for the Caandian Royal Legion to take offense at this.

If O'Reilly can organize boycott of France because of their stance on the war, why can't Canadians organize a boycott of Fox?
They have a right to be offended.

[The Overlord]

They have a right to be offended.

Well I was commenting on Norm mentioning that Canadians were being easily offended here and ignoring the fact that many at Fox News are easily offended by almost everything.

Ever heard of the rule " treat others as you wish to be treated" if Fox news is going to take offense at everything and then try to offend people in other countries, people in these countries are going to dislike them. Its hard to take someone taking about anti Americanism seriously, when they have no problem with being anti Canadian or anti European. Its a double standard.

There is a difference between politically incorrect and being a raging A-hole and a lot of people at Fox News seem to cross that line a lot.

[Addendum]

Then its ok for the Canadian Royal Legion to be offended, because they represent the interests of Canadian vets, to the point of the organization to is to champsion Canadian soldiers. Why shouldn't they be offended, if people at Fox News are going to take offense at every little thing, I think its okay for the Caandian Royal Legion to take offense at this.

If O'Reilly can organize boycott of France because of their stance on the war, why can't Canadians organize a boycott of Fox?

Go ahead and boycott. It will probably be as successful as O'Reilly's boycott of France, during which time French exports to the US increased.

[SuBe]

Where is this line? Between "Raging A-Hole" and Politically Incorrect? Who draws the line?

[Addendum]

Harold. Because he has the purple crayon

[SuBe]

Who appointed Harold, and is the Crayon Crayola or an off-brand like the ones they use in Resteraunts?

[The Overlord]

Where is this line? Between "Raging A-Hole" and Politically Incorrect? Who draws the line?

Many different factors, it depnds whether something is handled with intelligence, what the point its trying to make and whether it just comes off as mean sprited for its own sake. Besides these people are willing to offend others and easily offended themselves, doesn't thatcome off as double standard.

Like Michael Richardson, was him shouting the N word at that club just politically incorrect or just a horrible thing to say?

[StorminNorman]

But seriously why does Fox news have a double standard when it comes to offense, you say you don't like people who are easily offended, but isn't Fox News offended and outraged all the time? Is it ok for them to be easily offended in your books? They are offended by the term "Happy Holidays" for Christ sake and if Caandian comedian said stuff like this on the CBC about American troops, you better believe Beck and O'Reilly would be offended and shouting about it. How is this not a double standard?

Fox seems to want not to be offended and wants to offend anyone they want, isn't that not hypocritical?

No, Bill O'Reilly is offended by Happy Holidays. Their commentators have the right to be offended by anything that offends them.

Also, the idea that overreaction from one group justifies overreaction from another is asinine.

If you would like to bring up a story about Fox News or someone from it being offended by moronic comments made by irrelevant people then we can get together and laugh at Fox's hypocrisy or thin skin or whatever.

For the time being, however, this story is the one you brought up so I am going to laugh at Canadians and their wasting good print and emotion worrying about a stupid joke.

[SuBe]

Many different factors, it depnds whether something is handled with intelligence, what the point its trying to make and whether it just comes off as mean sprited for its own sake. Besides these people are willing to offend others and easily offended themselves, doesn't thatcome off as double standard.

Like Michael Richardson, was him shouting the N word at that club just politically incorrect or just a horrible thing to say?
Isn't what one considers Mean Spirited to another can be considered Enlightened? Is someone that destroys Tyrrany, for liberty, offending the Tyrrant?

Not to change the subject too much, but I don't care what someone says. Its going to offend someone. People today have too thin of a skin, and need to toughen up. Boo-hoo. Some naughty, naughty man said something that offended you. Grow up. That is why you have a right to Free Speech, not a Right Not to be Offended. Everyone can be offended by different things. I don't care that some one said something that offended you, I could be offended by something, and it not bother you at all.

We hear stuff all the time about our Military, how "evil" and "hated" they are. We hear that they murder innocents, and all of that. Do we get offended? Hell yes. Do we boycott it? Maybe. Do the people who say it have a right to? YES.

[The Overlord]

No, Bill O'Reilly is offended by Happy Holidays. Their commentators have the right to be offended by anything that offends them.

Also, the idea that overreaction from one group justifies overreaction from another is asinine.

If you would like to bring up a story about Fox News or someone from it being offended by moronic comments made by irrelevant people then we can get together and laugh at Fox's hypocrisy or thin skin or whatever.

For the time being, however, this story is the one you brought up so I am going to laugh at Canadians and their wasting good print and emotion worrying about a stupid joke.

If Bill O'Reilly can get offended by anything he feels like, why can't the Royal Canadian Legion get offended over something involivng the soldiers they champion?

If the shoe was on the other foot, you better believe that a lot of people at Fox would be offended by someone in Canada said this about American soldiers, look at all the everyone at Fox would blow a fuse if they found out about something like that. There's the double standard.

Like I care whether you are laughing at this or not, who are you? Who cares what you think? I care way more about the opinions iof the Royal Canadian Legion, then your opinion, their opinion is worth far more then your's. Your opinion is nothing compared to theirs.

[Addendum]

They have a right to free speech. That doesn't mean there won't be consequences.

If I was a comedian, yes I have the right to speak and if my jokes offend some people, fine. Those patrons have the right to speak to the owner of the club I'm performing at and tell him or her that they were offended by what I said. And that owner has the right to speak to me afterward and say that I won't be invited back to their club.

[StorminNorman]

If Bill O'Reilly can get offended by anything he feels like, why can't the Royal Canadian Legion get offended over something involivng the soldiers they champion?

I never said the RCL couldn't get offended over anything they wanted to. I am saying that worrying about bad jokes made by irrelevant people is a waste of time - I don't care who gets offended.

If the shoe was on the other foot, you better believe that a lot of people at Fox would be offended by someone in Canada said this about American soldiers, look at all the everyone at Fox would blow a fuse if they found out about something like that. There's the double standard.

Like I care whether you are laughing at this or not, who are you? Who cares what you think? I care way more about the opinions iof the Royal Caandian Legion, then your opinion, their opinion is worth far more then your's. Your opinion is nothing compared to theirs.

You really need to get over this.

It's not a double standard.

Again, if you are really offended by this good for you - great way to waste time and emotion carrying about something as idiotic and pointless as this. :up:

[The Overlord]

Isn't what one considers Mean Spirited to another can be considered Enlightened? Is someone that destroys Tyrrany, for liberty, offending the Tyrrant?

Not to change the subject too much, but I don't care what someone says. Its going to offend someone. People today have too thin of a skin, and need to toughen up. Boo-hoo. Some naughty, naughty man said something that offended you. Grow up. That is why you have a right to Free Speech, not a Right Not to be Offended. Everyone can be offended by different things. I don't care that some one said something that offended you, I could be offended by something, and it not bother you at all.

We hear stuff all the time about our Military, how "evil" and "hated" they are. We hear that they murder innocents, and all of that. Do we get offended? Hell yes. Do we boycott it? Maybe. Do the people who say it have a right to? YES.

How is Rush making fun of people with Parkinson disease or Ward Churchill saying the victims of 9-11 were Nazis promoting freedom, care to explain that? Those two seem like A-holes to me.

Freedom of speech only protects you from cohersion, it doesn't protect from other people using their freedom of speech to criticize you or you losing job, its not an absolute thing that protects you from everything. If you want people to respect you, you should show them respect, that's basic social manners. Treat others as you wish to be treated, its a simple unwritten social rule.

If I worked at Burger King and told someone to F off, I would be fired, if someone had a show CNN and said the Holocaust was fake will be fired. You have the right to say whatever you want, but still have to deal with consequences of what you say and if people don't like you for it, you have to deal with it.

[SuBe]

How is Rush making fun of people with Parkinson disease or Ward Churchill saying the victims of 9-11 were Nazis promoting freedom, care to explain that? Those two seem like A-holes to me.

Freedom of speech only protects you from cohersion, it doesn't protect from other people using their freedom of speech to criticize you or you losing job, its not an absolute thing that protects you from everything. If you want people to respect you, you should show them respect, that's basic social manners. Treat others as you wish to be treated, its a simple unwritten social rule.

If I worked at Burger King and told someone to F off, I would be fired, if someone had a show CNN and said the Holocaust was fake will be fired. You have the right to say whatever you want, but still have to deal with consequences of what you say and if people don't like you for it, you have to deal with it.
How does Freedom of Speech protect you from Cohersion? If you lose a job because someone said something falsely agaisnt you, it's Slander, if it is written, it's Libal. AND both are protected under Satire.

Freedom of Spech only protects your speech from GOVERNMENT. You can say what ever you like to any customer or to any employer. Expect to be fired. Now, if you want to say that the Administration is a bunch of Elementary School Kids, guess what "Congress shall make no laws infringing the Rights of Free Speech." Not "Free - for - all - Baby!"

[Addendum]

How does Freedom of Speech protect you from Cohersion? If you lose a job because someone said something falsely agaisnt you, it's Slander, if it is written, it's Libal. AND both are protected under Satire.

No it's not, because as I have said earlier, the person whom the libel and/or slander is directed can sue the person who made uttered or wrote those claims. They can claim "first amendment" but if they are unable or unwilling to prove that their comments were based in truth, guess who wins the case? It won't be the person who uttered the slander or printed the libel.

[The Overlord]

How does Freedom of Speech protect you from Cohersion? If you lose a job because someone said something falsely agaisnt you, it's Slander, if it is written, it's Libal. AND both are protected under Satire.

Freedom of Spech only protects your speech from GOVERNMENT. You can say what ever you like to any customer or to any employer. Expect to be fired. Now, if you want to say that the Administration is a bunch of Elementary School Kids, guess what "Congress shall make no laws infringing the Rights of Free Speech." Not "Free - for - all - Baby!"

You are repeating what I just said, for the most part.

It protects from all cohersion, not just government, private citizens can't just attack someone because thjey didn't like what they say, you will get arrested for that, so it protects from all cohersion, private and public. No one can phsyically force you to stop you from saying something.

The people on that show had the right to say what they said, but it pissed people off here and they are using their legal power, their freedom speech to show their displeasure and their buying power to boycott Fox. That's the consequences of waht they said and they have to deal with it.

[SuBe]

No, it does not. It protects the Individual FROM GOVERNMENT. Unless your laws are different than ours. IF someone physically assaults you, that is a completely different issue. He already has no right to assualt you. It has nothing to do with the fact you are speaking.

[CaptainClown]

slander and defamation laws nuff said

[The Overlord]

I never said the RCL couldn't get offended over anything they wanted to. I am saying that worrying about bad jokes made by irrelevant people is a waste of time - I don't care who gets offended.



You really need to get over this.

It's not a double standard.

Again, if you are really offended by this good for you - great way to waste time and emotion carrying about something as idiotic and pointless as this. :up:


I'm on comic book board arguing about politics, I'm clearly wasting my time anyway, what do you care? I will get offended if I feel like it. Everyone has pet peeves and this one of mine, got a problem with that? Everyone is allowed to have pet peeves, this a pet peeve for a lot of people.

I was offended when Rush said MJF was faking Parkinson and when Ward Churchill said the 9-11 victims were Nazis and lot of other people get offended by stuff like that, that's how most humans work, most have sacred cows. That's what human nature is for most people, people get offended by certain things, that's the way the world works.

[The Overlord]

No, it does not. It protects the Individual FROM GOVERNMENT. Unless your laws are different than ours. IF someone physically assaults you, that is a completely different issue. He already has no right to assualt you. It has nothing to do with the fact you are speaking.



Regardless all of that is irrelevant to my point and I have no interest in it. You are arguing semantics.

[StorminNorman]

Are you implying he's anti-semantic?

[CaptainClown]

I'm on comic book board arguing about politics, I'm clearly wasting my time anyway, what do you care? I will get offended if I feel like it. Everyone has pet peeves and this one of mine, got a problem with that? Everyone is allowed to have pet peeves, this a pet peeve for a lot of people.

I was offended when Rush said MJF was faking Parkinson and when Ward Churchill said the 9-11 victims were Nazis and lot of other people get offended by stuff like that, that's how most humans work, most have sacred cows. That's what human nature is for most people, people get offended by certain things, that's the way the world works.
I actually think it is fair for you to be offended if someone was making fun of your nations army.

[The Overlord]

I actually think it is fair for you to be offended if someone was making fun of your nations army.

Thank you.

[SuBe]

Regardless all of that is irrelevant to my point and I have no interest in it. You are arguing semantics.
No I'm not. You earlier were talking about being Offended and another group being offended. I said that you have a right to be offended. I was agreeing that you have a right to be offended. But, I was stating that those people have a right to say what they said. It's all about the same thing.

[StorminNorman]

I actually think it is fair for you to be offended if someone was making fun of your nations army.

*insert Canadian military joke here*

[The Overlord]

No I'm not. You earlier were talking about being Offended and another group being offended. I said that you have a right to be offended. I was agreeing that you have a right to be offended. But, I was stating that those people have a right to say what they said. It's all about the same thing.

But I never said they didn't right to say that, I and many others just don't like what they said and there will likely be consequences for that, one of those comedians had a show in Canada and it was cancelled, that's a consequence, many people in Canada are considering boycotting Fox, that's a consequence.

Say what you want, but be prepared to deal with the consequences.

[Heretic]

But I never said they didn't right to say that, I and many others just don't like what they said and there will likely be consequences for that, one of those comedians had a show in Canada and it was cancelled, that's a consequence, many people in Canada are considering boycotting Fox, that's a consequence.

Say what you want, but be prepared to deal with the consequences.

Please dont bomb the Baldwin residence...we will take swift action against Bryan Adams.

[danielisthor]

Please dont bomb the Baldwin residence...we will take swift action against Bryan Adams.

All the Baldwin's? I don't mind if they bomb Stephen or Daniel's residences.:cwink:


So, nice of Glenn's staff to find out that ACORN is funding those anti-AIG rallies in front of AIG employees homes. Paying for the buses and hiring strong arm demonstrators. Nice work.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Is it just me, or does it seem more and more like Glenn Beck needs to seek out medical help?

I'm beginning to wonder if the man needs to be put on some medication or something.

Not joking. 100% serious.

[Shifty]

Is it just me, or does it seem more and more like Glenn Beck needs to seek out medical help?

I'm beginning to wonder if the man needs to be put on some medication or something.

Not joking. 100% serious.

Candy coat his medication, he'll take it.

Colbert Out Crazies Beck, Again; Does Media's Job By Exposing Beck's Comments (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/01/stephen-colbert-rips-apar_n_181673.html)

[StorminNorman]

Is it just me, or does it seem more and more like Glenn Beck needs to seek out medical help?

I'm beginning to wonder if the man needs to be put on some medication or something.

Not joking. 100% serious.

:whatever:
:whatever::whatever:
:whatever::whatever::whatever:

[StorminNorman]

Candy coat his medication, he'll take it.

Colbert Out Crazies Beck, Again; Does Media's Job By Exposing Beck's Comments (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/01/stephen-colbert-rips-apar_n_181673.html)

LOL, if "exposing" is the same as "taking things out of context" Colbert is doing the media's job :up:

[Shifty]

LOL, if "exposing" is the same as "taking things out of context" Colbert is doing the media's job :up:

He's just another Rudy. I've watched him since he started on HLN, he's the last guy who should have access to millions of people.

[StorminNorman]

He's just another Rudy. I've watched him since he started on HLN, he's the last guy who should have access to millions of people.

:whatever:

His career has nothing to do with 9/11. This project has nothing to do with 9/11. Its about the feeling of patriotism, of unity that came afterwards and the lack of those feelings today.

Beck's success at Fox News is really unprecedented considering his time slot. The fact his show at 5 EST is destroying any Cable News show in primetimes is amazing.

[The Overlord]

:whatever:

His career has nothing to do with 9/11. This project has nothing to do with 9/11. Its about the feeling of patriotism, of unity that came afterwards and the lack of those feelings today.

Beck's success at Fox News is really unprecedented considering his time slot. The fact his show at 5 EST is destroying any Cable News show in primetimes is amazing.

Yeah and Britney Spears was once the most popular "singer" in the world, did that make her the best singer? Being popular doesn't make him the next Plato or frankly even worthy of sort of consideration as a political thinker at all. Besides tons of people don't watch cable news anymore, young people get their news off the net. Who watches this guy, is it the same old white people who watch Fox news in general?

And frankly the unity and patriotism right after 9-11, had a real ugly side, where people were far less likely to question the government, people saying the questioning the President is unpatriotic and that produced childish things like Freedom fries. I would rather not return to that, thank you very much.

What's so great about this guy? Frankly someone who comes off as obsessed as he does about doomsday scenarios, doesn't come off as a serious political thinker, he comes off as someone who needs to Decaffe.

[Shifty]

:whatever:

His career has nothing to do with 9/11. This project has nothing to do with 9/11. Its about the feeling of patriotism, of unity that came afterwards and the lack of those feelings today.

Beck's success at Fox News is really unprecedented considering his time slot. The fact his show at 5 EST is destroying any Cable News show in primetimes is amazing.

What type of viewer is he getting? There are over 300 million people in America, he's bound to attract those watching afternoon television with his fear mongering.

He hasn't used 9/11 for his career, but he is right now using "The 9/12 Project" to boost his profile/ratings and build a solid fanbase.

The Times wrote a fluff piece on him and skipped over so much that should at least have been mentioned. Report and decide.

"This is horrible to say, and I wonder if I'm alone in this, you know it took me about a year to start hating the 9/11 victims' families? I don't hate all of them. I hate probably about 10 of them. But when I see a 9/11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, 'Oh, shut up!' I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining. And we did our best for them."

There is unity and compassion right there.

I'll enjoy Colbert and Shep Smith mocking him.

[StorminNorman]

Yeah and Britney Spears was once the most popular "singer" in the world, did that make her the best singer? Being popular doesn't make him the next Plato or frankly even worthy of sort of consideration as a political thinker at all. Besides tons of people don't watch cable news anymore, young people get their news off the net. Who watches this guy, is it the same old white people who watch Fox news in general?

I wasn't using ratings to dictate quality. I never compared him to a great mind.

And frankly the unity and patriotism right after 9-11, had a real ugly side, where people were far less likely to question the government, people saying the questioning the President is unpatriotic and that produced childish things like Freedom fries. I would rather not return to that, thank you very much.

You are Canadian, right?

He hasn't used 9/11 for his career, but he is right now using "The 9/12 Project" to boost his profile/ratings and build a solid fanbase.

And the 9/12 project has nothing to do with 9/11.

The Times wrote a fluff piece on him and skipped over so much that should at least have been mentioned. Report and decide.

Like?

There is unity and compassion right there.

Stop being PC. Beck had a point.

I'll enjoy Colbert and Shep Smith mocking him.

That's your right.

[C.F. Kane]

LOL, if "exposing" is the same as "taking things out of context" Colbert is doing the media's job :up:

How was that quote out of context? Did Beck precede the comment about the families of 9/11 victims with "I would be destroying any claim to decency I had by saying that..." ?

[StorminNorman]

How was that quote out of context? Did Beck precede the comment about the families of 9/11 victims with "I would be destroying any claim to decency I had by saying that..." ?

No, but there was nothing wrong with that quote. The "out of context" bit is the idea that Beck didn't list specifically what the threats to freedom and prosperity were.

[Franklin Richards]

Is it just me, or does it seem more and more like Glenn Beck needs to seek out medical help?

I'm beginning to wonder if the man needs to be put on some medication or something.

Not joking. 100% serious.

He needs to take some acting lessons. I mean come on Glenn! A finger under the eye? That's too blatant. More ugly face when you're crying. And don't forget to slobber or snot. That'll get you the Oscar.


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[The Major]

He needs to take some acting lessons. I mean come on Glenn! A finger under the eye? That's too blatant. More ugly face when you're crying. And don't forget to slobber or snot. That'll get you the Oscar.


:doom: :doom: :doom:
Did you watch Morning Joe when they showed footage of Beck? It was hilarious. :hehe:

[The Overlord]

I wasn't using ratings to dictate quality. I never compared him to a great mind.

Then can my answer my question, what makes him so great?


You are Canadian, right?


I'm Canadian American, half Canadian, half American, my mom is born in America. Why what's it to you?

[Shifty]

Like?


Road to Communism, comparing Al Gore to Hitler, wanting the first Muslim senator to prove he wasn't working with the enemies.

He does bring up topics that aren't being discussed and kept on the border guards story but he crosses that line and goes into car wreck or paranoia television. And as Papa Bear states, he's the one who is a journalist these other guys are just entertainers.

[StorminNorman]

Road to Communism

Nothing wrong with that.

comparing Al Gore to Hitler

Nothing wrong with that. Al Gore's propaganda tactics dealing with children is very scary.

wanting the first Muslim senator to prove he wasn't working with the enemies.

Again, out of context. The entire point of the question was that after 9/11 America, a mostly white christian nation, became very fearful of Islam and Beck's intent was actually to show that people who follow Islam are not the same as Islmaic extremists.

He does bring up topics that aren't being discussed and kept on the border guards story but he crosses that line and goes into car wreck or paranoia television. And as Papa Bear states, he's the one who is a journalist these other guys are just entertainers.

Beck isn't a journalist. Beck is an entertainer.

[StorminNorman]

Then can my answer my question, what makes him so great?

He is a guy who shares many of the same values that I do, I have great respect for his constant bashing of the Republican Party and members of it.

I'm Canadian American, half Canadian, half American, my mom is born in America. Why what's it to you?

I was simply curious. A Canadian's view of America after 9/11 is going to be extremely different than an Americans.

[Kelly]

Wow....

[The Overlord]

He is a guy who shares many of the same values that I do, I have great respect for his constant bashing of the Republican Party and members of it.

That's nice, I think his constant Doomsday scenarios make him seem ridiculous, I find it bizarre he wants to discuss his own paranoid fantasies on the air, why?



I was simply curious. A Canadian's view of America after 9/11 is going to be extremely different than an Americans.

So does being half American, mean I only half the right reaction. :cwink:

Besides an outside party, can at times, offer an objective view.

Nothing wrong with that.


Except for the fact that actual communists don't think Obama is a communist and think its insulting to suggest so. Do you and Beck know more about communism then actual communist, that seems like an arrogant assumption.

Communists would never approve of those bail outs, whatever that is, its not communism, communists don't like the concept of corporate welfare.

Frankly I think Beck has little understanding about communism and just uses it as a generic boogieman.



Nothing wrong with that. Al Gore's propaganda tactics dealing with children is very scary.

Except for a little thing called Godwin's law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

According to that logic it be okay to compare Bush to Hitler, because they both used disasters to increase the government, does that make any sort of sense?

Seriously, you are just supporting logical fallacies here.




Beck isn't a journalist. Beck is an entertainer.

Except he is not entertaining, doing baby voices does make one cute or funny.

Why does Fox have entertainers on anyway, its a News channel, not comedy Central.

The media in other western countries hardly ever have this type of mindless infotainment on the air, give me boring show that discusses important things in civil manner over this drivel any day.

[sinewave]

Nothing wrong with that. Al Gore's propaganda tactics dealing with children is very scary.

:whatever:

[Shifty]

Beck isn't a journalist. Beck is an entertainer.

Didn't phrase it that well, I was referring to Bill O'Rielly saying he himself was a journalist and the rest, including Beck, were "entertainers".

[danielisthor]

Except he is not entertaining, doing baby voices does make one cute or funny.

Why does Fox have entertainers on anyway, its a News channel, not comedy Central.

The media in other western countries hardly ever have this type of mindless infotainment on the air, give me boring show that discusses important things in civil manner over this drivel any day.

I find Beck very entertaining and going by his numbers, so do a lot of others as well.


Which other mainstream journalist/reporter/newspaper has asked Conneticut's Attorney General Richard Blumenthal which law he was using to go after the AIG bonuses? Do you know what Blumenthal's was? There wasn't one.

Who else reported that Acorn was funding the protesters, buses and drivers for all those "irate" citizens touring AIG executive's homes.

[The Overlord]

I find Beck very entertaining and going by his numbers, so do a lot of others as well.

Popularity does not equal quality, otherwise Britney spears would have been the greatest singer back in 2002.

Beck's show is mass marketed slop for people who have no desire to look anything better, like McDonald's, he's the McDonald's of politics.




Which other mainstream journalist/reporter/newspaper has asked Conneticut's Attorney General Richard Blumenthal which law he was using to go after the AIG bonuses? Do you know what Blumenthal's was? There wasn't one.

Who else reported that Acorn was funding the protesters, buses and drivers for all those "irate" citizens touring AIG executive's homes.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. It doesn't make up for him using logical fallacies like the Godwin Law and talking about concepts he doesn't understand, like he doesn't seem to understand communism if thinks Obama is communist.

Plus do you really except me to care that Acorn is harnessing AIG, screw aAG they deserve everything they get, its own their own damn fault.

There is so much non sense on that show, its like finding a quarter in a pile of crap, anyone can right once and a while. My sister was watching part of his show online and said he there was a point where he made a very basic math mistake, like a very basic one.

That's why this show is drivel.

[danielisthor]

Popularity does not equal quality, otherwise Britney spears would have been the greatest singer back in 2002.

Beck's show is mass marketed slop for people who have no desire to look anything better, like McDonald's, he's the McDonald's of politics.

That's your opinion. And I'm sure there were thousands of fans that thought Britney was the greatest singer back in 2002.





Even a broken clock is right twice a day. It doesn't make up for him using logical fallacies like the Godwin Law and talking about concepts he doesn't understand, like he doesn't seem to understand communism if thinks Obama is communist.

Plus do you really except me to care that Acorn is harnessing AIG, screw aAG they deserve everything they get, its own their own damn fault.

There is so much non sense on that show, its like finding a quarter in a pile of crap, anyone can right once and a while. My sister was watching part of his show online and said he there was a point where he made a very basic math mistake, like a very basic one.

That's why this show is drivel.

Doesn't matter that he and his crew "break" these stories while the other supposed News Agencies totally ignore them. His "occasional getting the time right" by your assessment is crap in your opinion. So, i can only assume that everybody elses news shows that don't break anything new must be worse than drivel.

What about his show is nonsense. He rotates a lot of the same people as Shep, O'Reilly, and Hannity. You just disagree with him, so it's drivel. I disagree with a lot of things that comes out of the mouth of Hannity and Olbermann but i still watch them.

Open your mind, release your hate.

[The Overlord]

That's your opinion. And I'm sure there were thousands of fans that thought Britney was the greatest singer back in 2002.

Yes some people would have said that back in 2002 and they would have been wrong. Popularity doesn't equal quality.




Doesn't matter that he and his crew "break" these stories while the other supposed News Agencies totally ignore them. His "occasional getting the time right" by your assessment is crap in your opinion. So, i can only assume that everybody elses news shows that don't break anything new must be worse than drivel.

Oh yes Acorn harnessing AIG is clearly the most important story ever. "Acorn was mean too them, boo hoo and all they did was use tax payers money to give themselves bonuses, boo hoo,"

**** AIG, why should I care if Acorn is making things bad for them, its their own damn fault, they made this mess, not Acorn.




What about his show is nonsense. He rotates a lot of the same people as Shep, O'Reilly, and Hannity. You just disagree with him, so it's drivel. I disagree with a lot of things that comes out of the mouth of Hannity and Olbermann but i still watch them.

I already said what I saw on his show that was non sense: his constant paranoid fantasies that we see in the war room and even on his regular show, his use of logically fallacies like the Godwin Law, Beck thinking he is funny because he does stupid voices, Beck using terms he doesn't understand and applying them in silly ways, like saying Obama is a communist and Beck making very sloppy mistakes, that basic math errors on his show. Pay attention.

I don't have I a lot of respect for those two people either.

Its not just that disagree him, I disagree with William F. Buckley, but I at least respected him. I don't respect Beck, he's another talentless ass clown that thrives due to good marketing and pandering to certain demos. He presents himself in foolish manner, he is not particularly insightful and he's fear monger alarmist, that plays to people's baser instincts.


Open your mind, release your hate.

Your confusing hate with contempt, I don;t hate him, I have contempt for him, there's a difference.

Anyway I have read the works off the greatest political thinkers in history, as well as many modern theories of international relations from a variety of sources. Reading all of that is like going to fine restaurant, listening to Beck is liking going to McDonald's and filling your stomach with their crappy food.

So no, I have watched this show, I gave it a chance and frankly having contempt him for isn't closing your mind, the concept of infotainment itself breeds contempt and he is one of its shameless show boaters.

You have no idea what opening your mind is, if think watching this mindless infotainment is opening your mind. You what opening your mind is, turning off not only his show, but the TV itself and reading a book by a real political thinker, I don't care which one. That is opening your mind. A talentless ass clown like Beck opens nothing.

[SsM]

Sean Hannity is actually really smart.. He's just too extreme right for me.

[The Overlord]

Sean Hannity is actually really smart.. He's just too extreme right for me.

At least Beck criticizes the GOP some times, with Hannity its like every time he happens his mouth, its like he's like he is secretly longing to have sex with the GOP.

[SsM]

At least Beck criticizes the GOP some times, with Hannity its like every time he happens his mouth, its like he's like he is secretly longing to have sex with the GOP.


You could say the same thing about almost everyone else with Mr. Obama. :/

Even though they don't keep it a secret :P

[danielisthor]

At least Beck criticizes the GOP some times, with Hannity its like every time he happens his mouth, its like he's like he is secretly longing to have sex with the GOP.

Beck criticizes the GOP ALL THE TIME.

[StorminNorman]

:whatever:

He is telling children not to listen to their parents if they don't believe in Global Warming. Sorry, thats disturbing.

[sinewave]

He is telling children not to listen to their parents if they don't believe in Global Warming. Sorry, thats disturbing.

disturbing or not, comparing someone like gore to hitler is extremely intellectually lazy... and kind of idiotic, too. you're farther right than you giver yourself credit for.

[StorminNorman]

disturbing or not, comparing someone like gore to hitler is extremely intellectually lazy... and kind of idiotic, too. you're farther right than you giver yourself credit for.

No, its intentional hyperbole and one that I didn't even make. I would not of compared Al Gore to Hitler (mainly because its cliche) but I understand the point Beck was making.

That being said, neither intellectual laziness nor being idiotic is a right or left thing, so the "you're farther right" bit doesn't apply. :yay:

[sinewave]

No, its intentional hyperbole and one that I didn't even make. I would not of compared Al Gore to Hitler (mainly because its cliche) but I understand the point Beck was making.

That being said, neither intellectual laziness nor being idiotic is a right or left thing, so the "you're farther right" bit doesn't apply. :yay:

defending that type of lunacy is enough for me to slide you over to the "wing-nut" column in my mind. not that i'm calling you a wing-nut, because i know some eager mods would jump on that and try to ban me, even though they do the exact same thing and apparently aren't held to the same standard as us lowly mortals. just sayin'...

[Kelly]

*sighs* Well, I lost that bet....

[StorminNorman]

defending that type of lunacy is enough for me to slide you over to the "wing-nut" column in my mind. not that i'm calling you a wing-nut, because i know some eager mods would jump on that and try to ban me, even though they do the exact same thing and apparently aren't held to the same standard as us lowly mortals. just sayin'...

I really doubt that me defending Beck's quote had any impact on your perception of me.

[sinewave]

*sighs* Well, I lost that bet....

hey, to borrow a phrase from you, "i'm just calling it like i see it." people are too sensitive around here these days.

I really doubt that me defending Beck's quote had any impact on your perception of me.

you're probably right.

[Kelly]

hey, to borrow a phrase from you, "i'm just calling it like i see it." people are too sensitive around here these days.



you're probably right.


Well, "these days" we've been pretty chilled actually....:yay:

Welcome back Sine...

[sinewave]

Well, "these days" we've been pretty chilled actually....:yay:

Welcome back Sine...

glad to hear it. thanks.

[theShape]

Sean Hannity = biggest tool ever. Greta and O'Reilly are tied for second.

[StorminNorman]

O'Reilly is not a tool. Tool implies that he is easily manipulated. O'Reilly bashed both parties. He has a conservative, traditionalist, classic Irish/Catholic view point - but he is not a tool.

Greta...well her mouth is weird.

[theShape]

O'Reilly is not a tool. Tool implies that he is easily manipulated. O'Reilly bashed both parties. He has a conservative, traditionalist, classic Irish/Catholic view point - but he is not a tool.

Greta...well her mouth is weird.

Maybe "tool" was the wrong word. Doofus, prick, dumbass? Do any of those fit?

I agree with what everyone has always wanted to say to Bill, but only David Letterman did: he's too smart to believe some of the things he says.

[Franklin Richards]

These entertainers like O'Reilly and Hannity are just putting on an act.


Kinda like Larry the Cable Guy pretending to be from the South.

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:thing: :doom: :thing:

[theShape]

These entertainers like O'Reilly and Hannity are just putting on an act.


Kinda like Larry the Cable Guy pretending to be from the South.

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:thing: :doom: :thing:

Doesn't make them (or Larry the Cable Guy) any more bearable to watch.

[Kelly]

Maybe "tool" was the wrong word. Doofus, prick, dumbass? Do any of those fit?

I agree with what everyone has always wanted to say to Bill, but only David Letterman did: he's too smart to believe some of the things he says.


An asshat is a fair representation of him...and he would probably agree...

[StorminNorman]

http://finance.alphatrade.com/story/2009-03-31/BIZ/200903311337BIZWIRE_USPR_____BW6498.html

I know its getting fairly repetitive...but Fox News once again dominates the competition.

Fox News is also now the second most watched Cable Network.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

nice...Mooninites.

Be careful, though. Someone might think it's a terrorist attack.

[Addendum]

Fox News may be #2, but they can't top Adult Swim