Green Lantern Script Discussion - HEAVY SPOILER CONTENT

[Keyser Soze]

Hey folks,

With the first draft of the "Green Lantern" script being leaked, I thought it'd be a good idea to create a new thread discussing it. That way, the other GL threads won't become danger-zones filled with unwanted spoilers. All spoiler-talk relating to the script can be kept here.

I'm not going to post the link to the script on here, since the Hype frowns on such things. But I assume if it's like the scripts for "Jonah Hex" or "Supermax", it'll be doing the rounds among you soon enough.

[Keyser Soze]

20 pages in, and this script is just so perfect. Hal's an arrogant jerk. Sinestro is a brave, highly respected Lantern, but his rebellious nature and resentment of the Guardians is already evident. He talks of wanting to harness a light even more powerful than the green light of willpower, but The Guardians cut him down and say he speaks of forces too volatile. Oh yes, The Guardians. The writers have nailed the unlikeable nature of The Guardians too.

One big change is that Hal's mother is alive, and prominently featured as part of the family ensemble. This doesn't surprise me, given Berlanti's preoccupation with family and mother figures in his TV work.

EDIT: Though it's not reflected in the dialogue, I love how foul-mouthed the descriptive content in the script is. I just find that funny. :) And as for the dialogue, it's actually very "Eli Stone". Quite quirky.

[Keyser Soze]

50 pages in, and the big revelation is the characterisation of Hector Hammond. This is going to be one creepy, evil villain. I noticed they made him a good deal younger - mid thirties - than he's usually portrayed. Evidently to set him up as a parallel to Hal, since Hector has plenty of daddy issues of his own. The way he handles the onset of his powers is very well executed. I look forward to seeing where they go with him.

Oa is wonderfully brought to life. This is where reading the script isn't giving you the whole picture. If they do the descriptions justice, we're in for some truly wondrous sights when he get to Sinestro giving Hal the tour of Oa.

Oh, and you gotta love this scene intro:

SMASH TO: THOUSANDS OF LANTERNS. Some big, some small, some furry - but you wouldn't want to f*** with any of them.

[R_Hythlodeus]

you wouldn´t mind sending me the link per private message, would you?

[protocida]

I'm over page 50. That's the first script i read, so, everything feels a bit rushed, but i know that, when it's filmed, everything is rightfully placed. I'm liking it, tought. All the characters have a solid portrayal, but i hope they expand a little bit of it, add more explications about Hector's powers and slow his downfall to villany a little bit. But, as i said, i'm liking it.

[Katsuro]

Only a couple pages in, and I love it. One thing I find funny, however, is that it looks like we'll have another DC Superhero movie that gets complaints of overusing the word "fear".

[Octoberist]

Hector feels kinda rushed and I Kilowog isn't in there too much.

[batman strikes]

We have to remember that this is only a first draft. Things might seem weeks could of been changed. But I do think this is a solid first draft and I hope things just get better from here.

[hippie_hunter]

you wouldn´t mind sending me the link per private message, would you?

I would appreciate the same.

[Eddie Dean]

Me too.

[Motown Marvel]

pm pleeeeeeeeeeeeease!!!!!

[Maze]

I would appreciate it too.

[hippie_hunter]

Is this the actual script, because it is damn good so far.

[Steyin]

Me three.

[MiniBond]

bring it on to me too (if available) :applaud

[mercboyz]

I would appreciate a link or pm as well.

[arman200]

I'd like one too, if it isn't a bother.

[batman strikes]

If anyone wants the script just PM me for it and I'll send it to you.

[Keyser Soze]

Is this the actual script, because it is damn good so far.

It's the first draft. Based on what we've heard, there's been at least one more draft since this one, but the general content should remain mostly the same, I'd imagine.

[Katsuro]

Just finished it. It's brilliant, and I cant wait to see it. One thing I dont get, we have a cameo by Clark Kent, but GL is regarded as the first evidence of alien life? I know DC wants to build up to a Justice League movie, so are they gonna put Green Lantern as taking place before any Superman movies? I always liked Superman being a first, and I think that whole idea of the world changing after his appearance should be reserved for him.

[Keyser Soze]

It makes me happy that they've worked in the more modern version of the yellow light, making it a channeling of fear. Though it seems like they have linked it to Legion rather than Parallax.

[hippie_hunter]

Just finished it. It's brilliant, and I cant wait to see it. One thing I dont get, we have a cameo by Clark Kent, but GL is regarded as the first evidence of alien life? I know DC wants to build up to a Justice League movie, so are they gonna put Green Lantern as taking place before any Superman movies? I always liked Superman being a first, and I think that whole idea of the world changing after his appearance should be reserved for him.

Even if Superman is an established hero in Green Lantern the people of Earth would still be ignorant to life on other planets on account of Krypton being destroyed and Superman being the only known alien.

[Katsuro]

It makes me happy that they've worked in the more modern version of the yellow light, making it a channeling of fear. Though it seems like they have linked it to Legion rather than Parallax.

That's another thing. It seems they're blending Legion with Parralax. It works here, but how will that work down the line? Will it be Legion that takes over Hal?

[The Guard]

Well, it's about what I expected when I saw the script "reviews". This reads like a JJ Abrams written GREEN LANTERN, without the depth. The first thing I notice is that while it does draw from the mythology, it's not THAT faithful. That's good and bad, depending on how much you care about Green Lantern. The script is fairly well-written, but it's also inconsistent, ranging from intelligent to juvenile. It's sort of like TRANSFORMERS in terms of the writing.

The introduction to the idea of the Green Lanterns is cool and all, but it's execution is a bit...meh. The concept is good, but the dialogue feels a bit awkward. I can't put my finger on it. I'll have to think on that for a bit.

The death of Martin Jordan is handled well. So are the ramifications for everyone involved, including what happened to Ferris, Carol, Hal, his mother and the Jordan family. It's nice to see the Jordan family get a nod. I do wish Hal's memories of his father and the significance of his father's death went beyond "I'm going to have another flashback now" stuff, and had more to do with who Hal became.

I like most of the banter between Hal and Carol. Two actors with very good chemistry will make this work well. Carol's not that interesting, though, as her arc seems to revolve around always being disappointed with Hal, and not about herself, and their relationship is a bit derivative of other superheroes. It needs something to make it unique (Star Sapphire in the future perhaps). Dialoguewise, Hal is a bit annoyingly vocal. He reads like Shia should be playing him. Seriously. He's almost Spider-Man-level vocal.

Tom Kalmaku is here, but he's also modernized, occassionally annoying and relatively useless. Having him being involved in Hal's discovery of Sur's ship kind of makes sense, and at least gives him something to do. His entire arc seems to revolve around getting his very own spaceship.

The dogfight between Hal and the sabres is cool. Anytime Hal is in a jet is cool.

Abin Sur's death is handled realistically. I wish we had time to get to know him a bit more, that he was fleshed out just a little more. Perhaps in a sequel. It is interesting to see his wife later on. That gives Sur a tiny bit more dimension and relevance.

Hector Hammond is completely shoehorned into the story and is a subpar villain with a really stupid subplot. He reads like Dr. Doom. Spouting cliches, turning into a villain and hurting people for no apparent reason beyond hatred of his enemy (and his father, because he's a failure in his father's eyes), etc. He does not make a compelling or particularly interesting villain. He discovers he has the power of a god and becomes a bank robber, for god's sake. But oh no! He has a giant head! There's just not much to him, really. They do a few interesting things with him, but it's always the obvious thing.

The same holds true for Legion. It's a killing machine, sure, but that's all it is, beyond a really forced Manhunter-style story element. Oh, and apparently Legion is also essentially Parallax now. I guess it doesn't matter, since he's still relatively boring as a character. Interestingly enough, the weakness to "yellow" is never explored. Seems like a missed opportunity.

Hal’s first trip to Oa is a bit short, but welcome to see nontheless. Oa will look amazing, and the Guardians have the potential to be really, really cool. I do wish Ganthet had been featured. However, Hal learning all about all Universal Sectors while he sleeps is kind of stupid, especially when the script never comes back to this plot device. Isn’t that the point of the Power Ring?

Green Lantern’s debut on the airfield brings to mind THE ROCKETEER and will be stunning if handled properly.

From there it becomes rushed, and everything you'd expect to happen, does. On a personal note, I am sick and tired of forced-as-hell one and a half minute long “Gosh, things are tough, I want to quit” scenes in superhero movies. Sick of them. Script loses points for going that route for all of one and a half pages.

The Corps VS Legion and then coming to Earth to help Hal stop Hammond is cool.

A few beefs:

-I wish the nature of willpower/fear had been explored a little more.

-Sinestro is too reckless. That's not Sinestro. Whoever wrote this clearly didn't understand, or didn't care, about the core of Sinestro's character. He's not just "some veteran Green Lantern" who half-trained Hal Jordan. He's obsessed with order, and he's obsessed with keeping it. He's not some revenge-driven hothead. He doesn't really deal much in "fear", either.

This script gets a lot right, and it has a lot of potential. I'd put it at or near the same level as the X-MEN movies, but without the same kind of depth. At times, it can be really cheesy, but there are some bits of genuine humor and the potential for decent drama. The potential for action and visual effects is obvious, and almost everyone wants to see Green Lantern realized in live action. There may be a few too many characters here, though, which causes some of them to suffer. Characters like Kilowog and Tomar-Re, become essentially cameos, and comic relief at that. The script could do without Hector Hammond entirely, which would free up a lot of screentime. I really think a story about Sinestro and Hal should be the basis of the first film. None of the characters are particularly well developed because of the script constraints, and that's because the script is a lean 105 pages. It could use another 20, and wouldn't suffer for it on any level. Overall, it's a solid first draft, and one hopes they keep moving forward. Because they're at least on the right track.

[Swordmaster]

A PM would be much appreciated.

[protocida]

I haven't read everything, because i wanted to mantain some surprises, but it's REALLY GOOD. There are some problems, obviously fixed by the second draft, and i think it has potential. I want to see this movie now!

[TheComicbookKid]

Question


Now that you've read the script has your opinion about Gosling as a possibility changed?

[The Guard]

No. He seems even less appropriate for the role upon reading the script. Unless they want Hal Jordan to become Peter Parker.

[protocida]

Ryan Gosling could be Hal Jordan. I think he can be heroic, funny, cocky and arrogant, Hal four basic personality issues. :woot:

[Octoberist]

Guard,

I do agree that the villains need work. Otherwise, like what you just said, Hector's arc feels like a subplot

[TheComicbookKid]

The Guard reminds me of those two old guys from the Puppet show that sat on the balcony. "They don't care for most things.":woot:

[Octoberist]

From the looks of it, the script is a good start and I really hope that Dark Knight influenced the writers in the later drafts; no so much on the 'darkness' of Nolan's movies, but to step the amp up with the scope of their story.

There is room for improvement...obviously. Being the first draft, it's not going to feel polish. And while I don't expect a uber masterpiece, I DO expect a movie that's on par with Iron Man.

[Keyser Soze]

Question


Now that you've read the script has your opinion about Gosling as a possibility changed?

In reading the script, the choice of Ryan Gosling makes even more sense to me.

[Keyser Soze]

From the looks of it, the script is a good start and I really hope that Dark Knight influenced the writers in the later drafts; no so much on the 'darkness' of Nolan's movies, but to step the amp up with the scope of their story.

There is room for improvement...obviously. Being the first draft, it's not going to feel polish. And while I don't expect a uber masterpiece, I DO expect a movie that's on par with Iron Man.

"Iron Man" was the superhero film this script reminded me most of, actually.

[Octoberist]

If you asked me if I think Greg is ready to direct a movie like this, I would say..."I don't know".

[Evil Twin]

I'm pretty much in agreement with The Guard. Good initial first draft, but definitely in need of some fleshing out and added depth. Especially Hammond. He feels fairly tacked on.

Of the scripts that are out there, I'd rank them Jonah Hex > Green Lantern > Supermax.

[Keyser Soze]

I've yet to read the Jonah Hex script... :(

[Octoberist]

i agree that Jonah Hex is the strongest one out of the bunch. I guess because the 'Crank' team made the characters very likable, and has a raw feeling to it.

Green Lantern...it can work out if it's fleshed out more. Same goes with SuperMax.

[TheVileOne]

I don't think Greg Berlanti is ready.

No disrespect, but I mean for a long time we heard about how GREAT Mark Steven Johnson's Daredevil script was. Look how that turned out. Yeah I know he had done a couple of films, but one of them was SIMON FREAKING BIRCH. Good God.

Just hope we could avoid another Mark Steven Johnson situation.

My choice would be maybe someone like Martin Campbell. But if you look at his filmography, his movies really need to be backed by a strong script or he fumbles big time.

[Octoberist]

if this is the direction the writers want to go, then I don't know how relevant it is in a Post-Dark Knight (and post-Watchmen if it's good) film world. I don't want Green Lantern to be just another comic book movie; I want it to mean something.

[Sky Captain]

I tried every way imaginable to find this darn thing (via Google anyway), and I think the rest of the internet has no idea the script leaked.

So I was wondering....if anybody was kind enough...they'd PM it to me? :D

[TheVileOne]

Judging from the reactions,

it sounds like the script needs things like Atrocitus and the GL prophecy. And maybe Sinestro should be the main villain instead of Legion and Hector Hammond.

Blackest Night and all of that :D . Lead up to the Sinestro Corps. war.

[Keyser Soze]

I actually liked Hector Hammond in the script. He was about as good as his inevitable position in the script - the placeholder villain while Hal's TRUE nemesis, Sinestro, does the slow-boil descent into villainy for the sequel - allowed him to be. But he still had some good lines, some clever sequences to demonstrate his power, and some moments of fine bastardy.

[Chewy]

Would anyone mind pming me the script?

[Metamorpho1977]

Hey folks,

With the first draft of the "Green Lantern" script being leaked, I thought it'd be a good idea to create a new thread discussing it. That way, the other GL threads won't become danger-zones filled with unwanted spoilers. All spoiler-talk relating to the script can be kept here.

I'm not going to post the link to the script on here, since the Hype frowns on such things. But I assume if it's like the scripts for "Jonah Hex" or "Supermax", it'll be doing the rounds among you soon enough.

Hey, how about PMming me the script? I'll give you Sandra Bullock's email address.

[protocida]

Judging from the reactions,

it sounds like the script needs things like Atrocitus and the GL prophecy. And maybe Sinestro should be the main villain instead of Legion and Hector Hammond.

Blackest Night and all of that :D . Lead up to the Sinestro Corps. war.
That would make the movie VERY rushed. Atrocitus could work (But i think Legion is as good), but the GL prophecy should just be foreshadowed, and Sinestro should only be mentinated or have a very small participation, letting a door open for him training Hal Jordan and his subsequent downfall on a sequel.

That's how i would make it, villain-wise:

GREEN LANTERN: Hector Hammond and Legion/Atrocitus.
GREEN LANTERN 2: The manhunters.
GREEN LANTERN 3: Sinestro and Tatooed man.

If they led to a sequel trilogy:

GREEN LANTERN 4: Star Shappire and Black Hand.
GREEN LANTERN 5: Sinestro Corps.
GREEN LANTERN 6: War of the rings.

However, during a interview for MTV movies, Marc Guggehein told that they turned the first draft weeks before Geoff Johns's "Secret Origins" hit the comic book stores, implying that they might have added elements from the story on the second draft. Let's see.

[The Batman]

can someone pm me the script? thanks...

[TheVileOne]

Do Sinestro Corps later.

But I mean, I dunno Hector Hammond kind of makes for a lame first movie villain. He's a dude with a big head and lots of psychic power.

[Keyser Soze]

Hey, how about PMming me the script? I'll give you Sandra Bullock's email address.

The Jonah Hex script would do just fine. :woot:

[Keyser Soze]

Do Sinestro Corps later.

But I mean, I dunno Hector Hammond kind of makes for a lame first movie villain. He's a dude with a big head and lots of psychic power.

After Sinestro (and Solomon Grundy, if you count him as a GL villain) Hector Hammond is my favourite of Green Lantern's foes. Particularly since "Rebirth", he's just such a creepy, disgusting character. I can't wait until he shows up again in the comics, and I'm glad he's made it into the film.

[TheVileOne]

Geoff Johns could make Batroc into a good character. That's how good he is.

[protocida]

Do Sinestro Corps later.

But I mean, I dunno Hector Hammond kind of makes for a lame first movie villain. He's a dude with a big head and lots of psychic power.
Hector Hammond can be a great villain, if they treat him like he is: A creepy, disgusting creature, that lives only to make other people suffer and feed from this sofriment, as a drug. His psychick powers are almost endless, and he uses it only by the simple pleasure of hurting others.

About his looks. It can he worked also. I see him as a man that starts very wealthy, strong and healthy, but, during his downfall thanks to the meteor (Yep, in my version, it's a meteor) he becomes more and more thin, while his head gets more and more deformed. His brain would be miscarriedg, with some parts overly growned and other shrunk, with pulsing vains, black, empty eyes and a sadistic/perverted grim on his face.

Oh, and i'd loose the mustache.

[arman200]

PM?:woot:

[hippie_hunter]

I think that this is a damn good first draft. I feel when all is said and done, we'll end up getting a film that is on par in quality as Spider-Man 2 and Iron Man.

[Dark Knight]

Hey folks,

With the first draft of the "Green Lantern" script being leaked, I thought it'd be a good idea to create a new thread discussing it. That way, the other GL threads won't become danger-zones filled with unwanted spoilers. All spoiler-talk relating to the script can be kept here.

I'm not going to post the link to the script on here, since the Hype frowns on such things. But I assume if it's like the scripts for "Jonah Hex" or "Supermax", it'll be doing the rounds among you soon enough.



Can you PM me the first draft the GL scrpit por favor?

[arman200]

Well, it's about what I expected when I saw the script "reviews". This reads like a JJ Abrams written GREEN LANTERN, without the depth. The first thing I notice is that while it does draw from the mythology, it's not THAT faithful. That's good and bad, depending on how much you care about Green Lantern. The script is fairly well-written, but it's also inconsistent, ranging from intelligent to juvenile. It's sort of like TRANSFORMERS in terms of the writing.

The introduction to the idea of the Green Lanterns is cool and all, but it's execution is a bit...meh. The concept is good, but the dialogue feels a bit awkward. I can't put my finger on it. I'll have to think on that for a bit.

The death of Martin Jordan is handled well. So are the ramifications for everyone involved, including what happened to Ferris, Carol, Hal, his mother and the Jordan family. It's nice to see the Jordan family get a nod. I do wish Hal's memories of his father and the significance of his father's death went beyond "I'm going to have another flashback now" stuff, and had more to do with who Hal became.

I like most of the banter between Hal and Carol. Two actors with very good chemistry will make this work well. Carol's not that interesting, though, as her arc seems to revolve around always being disappointed with Hal, and not about herself, and their relationship is a bit derivative of other superheroes. It needs something to make it unique (Star Sapphire in the future perhaps). Dialoguewise, Hal is a bit annoyingly vocal. He reads like Shia should be playing him. Seriously. He's almost Spider-Man-level vocal.

Tom Kalmaku is here, but he's also modernized, occassionally annoying and relatively useless. Having him being involved in Hal's discovery of Sur's ship kind of makes sense, and at least gives him something to do. His entire arc seems to revolve around getting his very own spaceship.

The dogfight between Hal and the sabres is cool. Anytime Hal is in a jet is cool.

Abin Sur's death is handled realistically. I wish we had time to get to know him a bit more, that he was fleshed out just a little more. Perhaps in a sequel. It is interesting to see his wife later on. That gives Sur a tiny bit more dimension and relevance.

Hector Hammond is completely shoehorned into the story and is a subpar villain with a really stupid subplot. He reads like Dr. Doom. Spouting cliches, turning into a villain and hurting people for no apparent reason beyond hatred of his enemy (and his father, because he's a failure in his father's eyes), etc. He does not make a compelling or particularly interesting villain. He discovers he has the power of a god and becomes a bank robber, for god's sake. But oh no! He has a giant head! There's just not much to him, really. They do a few interesting things with him, but it's always the obvious thing.

The same holds true for Legion. It's a killing machine, sure, but that's all it is, beyond a really forced Manhunter-style story element. Oh, and apparently Legion is also essentially Parallax now. I guess it doesn't matter, since he's still relatively boring as a character. Interestingly enough, the weakness to "yellow" is never explored. Seems like a missed opportunity.

Hal’s first trip to Oa is a bit short, but welcome to see nontheless. Oa will look amazing, and the Guardians have the potential to be really, really cool. I do wish Ganthet had been featured. However, Hal learning all about all Universal Sectors while he sleeps is kind of stupid, especially when the script never comes back to this plot device. Isn’t that the point of the Power Ring?

Green Lantern’s debut on the airfield brings to mind THE ROCKETEER and will be stunning if handled properly.

From there it becomes rushed, and everything you'd expect to happen, does. On a personal note, I am sick and tired of forced-as-hell one and a half minute long “Gosh, things are tough, I want to quit” scenes in superhero movies. Sick of them. Script loses points for going that route for all of one and a half pages.

The Corps VS Legion and then coming to Earth to help Hal stop Hammond is cool.

A few beefs:

-I wish the nature of willpower/fear had been explored a little more.

-Sinestro is too reckless. That's not Sinestro. Whoever wrote this clearly didn't understand, or didn't care, about the core of Sinestro's character. He's not just "some veteran Green Lantern" who half-trained Hal Jordan. He's obsessed with order, and he's obsessed with keeping it. He's not some revenge-driven hothead. He doesn't really deal much in "fear", either.

This script gets a lot right, and it has a lot of potential. I'd put it at or near the same level as the X-MEN movies, but without the same kind of depth. At times, it can be really cheesy, but there are some bits of genuine humor and the potential for decent drama. The potential for action and visual effects is obvious, and almost everyone wants to see Green Lantern realized in live action. There may be a few too many characters here, though, which causes some of them to suffer. Characters like Kilowog and Tomar-Re, become essentially cameos, and comic relief at that. The script could do without Hector Hammond entirely, which would free up a lot of screentime. I really think a story about Sinestro and Hal should be the basis of the first film. None of the characters are particularly well developed because of the script constraints, and that's because the script is a lean 105 pages. It could use another 20, and wouldn't suffer for it on any level. Overall, it's a solid first draft, and one hopes they keep moving forward. Because they're at least on the right track.
NO!!!!!!

I was getting really excited by the positive comments, but Transformers-esque writing? And I was somewhat disappointed by the idea of Legion as the villain for this one, but to make him like Parallax? I still want to read it, but this is worrying me.

[Webhead2006]

woah i didnt know the berlanti script actually leaked out. From all your posts it sounds pretty good. But like someone said its what the first draft of the script and things have probably been fixed up/changed in the later drafts they are doing so the parts some of you think isnt that good might have been fixed. Though i dont know much on the hal jordan character i would love to see the script for myself so please could any one pm me it and thanks in advance.

[The Major]

NO!!!!!!

I was getting really excited by the positive comments, but Transformers-esque writing? And I was somewhat disappointed by the idea of Legion as the villain for this one, but to make him like Parallax? I still want to read it, but this is worrying me.

While I haven't read the script Guard's comments concerning Legion got me thinking about it.

Is there any particular reason it has to be Legion? Couldn't they just use Parallax to explore the fear angle? It would definitely allow them to explain the yellow weakness more clearly without being random. Johns' has basically given them a bible to use it with Rebirth. Another option would be using a rogue Manhunter only colored yellow.

Hammond has potential as a villain he just seems more like sequel potential.

They could have two villains with Sinestro still being the master mind who Hal fights in the final act when his plot with the Manhunter/Parallax/Legion acts as his proxy and not have to wait for a sequel before using him as a villain.

Guard comparing the script to Transformers is disappointing. GL should have a script more like IM quality, not that.

[Keyser Soze]

I wouldn't worry about that comparison, Major. To me it seems closer to IM than Transformers.

[JokerLedger]

I wanted to hold back... but now I want to join in on the fun. Anyone mind pming me the goods?

[GreenLantern1]

Could someone please PM me the script link? Thanks.

[dude love]

May someone PM me the link please? I would be incredibly appreciative.

[The Guard]

I'm not trying to be the doomsayer. It's refreshing to see Green Lantern taken at least sort of seriously. This is a good script. It's just not great. There's no real "insight" into the concept of Green Lantern. It's exactly what you would expect, and that's both a good and a bad thing.

This script is cool and all, but it's also "bare bones" Green Lantern Corps. It doesn't quite get to what makes this a unique hero (other than the obvious power difference). I care about what makes Green Lantern unique more than I do about cool action and seeing "cameos".

Like many of you, I want Green Lantern to MEAN something. This script is the "safe" version of that. It's about heroes, and using power to change things, but it doesn't get much deeper than that. It's basic good VS evil, with very few "thinking points" to it.

NO!!!!!!

I was getting really excited by the positive comments, but Transformers-esque writing? And I was somewhat disappointed by the idea of Legion as the villain for this one, but to make him like Parallax? I still want to read it, but this is worrying me.

It's not neccessarily a bad thing. But yes, there is some TRANSFORMERS-ish writing in some areas. It's most likely a product of the script having three writers.

Is there any particular reason it has to be Legion? Couldn't they just use Parallax to explore the fear angle?

No, there's really no reason for Legion to be involved VS Parallax, other than the fact that that's who Hal faced in EMERALD DAWN as his first major villain. They basically make Legion into a combination of Parallax and the Manhunters anyway, making it into a giant (and I mean giant, not just huge) mindless killing machine, and removing the far-more-compelling backstory. The "Did the Guardians do the right thing or not" angle is almost ignored, because Legion is simply played as "Their first screw up".

It would definitely allow them to explain the yellow weakness more clearly without being random. Johns' has basically given them a bible to use it with Rebirth. Another option would be using a rogue Manhunter only colored yellow.

Exactly. There's no reason the yellow weakness couldn't have been worked in here. The weakness fear becomes against will. This is what I mean about the script not having much depth.

Hammond has potential as a villain he just seems more like sequel potential.

Hector Hammond is what he is. A telepath who uses his power to do stupid, cliche villains tuff. He seems to have no larger aims. I feel that is a fundamental misunderstanding of his potential as a character.

He's just not that interesting, and his backstory is forced, and not very compelling. He's yet another whiny "villain just because" that writers feel the need to force motivation into.

Guard comparing the script to Transformers is disappointing. GL should have a script more like IM quality, not that.

Well, it is what it is. It has to be said, I think, that they're on about the same level in terms of the quality of the writing. I actually think TRANSFORMERS maybe had a more involved story. But frankly, I think this script is a lot like IRON MAN in many ways, too, and IRON MAN was a good movie, despite being straightforward and occassionally "cheesy".

[I Am The Knight]

I was kinda hoping it would be "above" Iron Man...At least it's only the first draft.

[NotFadeAway]

I liked and enjoyed what I read in the 1st draft. You can tell it is a first draft, and they have some fleshing out to do, but they have a good template here. As with most first drafts, it should get better the deeper they get into it.

I have no doubts about Berlanti as a writer, but I still think they should find another Director and have Berlanti serve as Producer and obviously Writer.

As highly as I think of Ryan Gosling, this script is made for David Boreanaz.

[protocida]

I am reading it again, and i just realised this is the perfect GL script, at least until page 13. It's fun. I think that's important. And, as some said so, it's the rough, first draft. There will be deep add. There will be polishment. And there will be a movie, or i'll go ape-sh it on Warner executives asses! :cmad:

[Keyser Soze]

After taking a day to let my excitement die down, I think it's about time for me to come back and offer a full review of the "Green Lantern" script.

This was a fun, breezy read, and I soared through it. It's by no means a classic. In fact, I'd say the "Jonah Hex" script I'm currently reading is actually better than the "Green Lantern" script. That's not saying anything against this though. Just that it's nothing overly original. It basically sticks to the "superhero movie origin" template, which is fine. Of course, when compared to "The Dark Knight", it suffers. But I think that will be the case with most superhero movies from here on in, as "The Dark Knight" set the bar so high. And on it's own less-ambitious merits, this film does just fine.

A big strength is that the script is largely faithful to the mythos of Green Lantern, and the characters, for the most part, ring true. The characters and their interactions are one of the script's major strengths. Hal manages to at once be a likeable protagonist and an arrogant jerk. I think with an actor as talented as Ryan Gosling in the role, Hal will really come to life and be an entertaining, nuanced hero. In particular, I think the scenes with Carol - third act machinations aside - ring more true, and come across as more "grown up" than some of the soap opera stylings found in the likes of "Spider-Man". With the right actress for Carol, the dialogue provided here could be a basis for some strong chemistry throughout their shared scenes in the film.

I found myself getting continual sparks of excitement when it came to the various members of the Corps popping up. Tomar-Re and Kilowog have very small roles. In particular, I feel Kilowog could benefit from more face-time - perhaps even through a sparring session with Hal. You know the John Goodman rumor must be BS, because they wouldn't bring an actor of that stature in to say three lines. The Guardians are handled excellently - Berlanti and co nailed the aloof, beurocratic dickishness which defines them. But I was saddened to see no sign of Ganthet, a character I am rather fond of.

But the best-handled of all these alien figures is Sinestro. Kudos to the writing team for not pulling the trigger on his descent into villainy. But at the same time, the warning signs are all there. I loved the allusions to Sinestro's fascination - bordering on obsession - with "the yellow light" and the power of fear, even though he won't acknowledge it even to himself. And it's hinted at, rather than hammered over our heads. But Sinestro is more than just a redflagged villain-in-waiting. We see him as a well-rounded figure, someone who stands up to the Guardians in the pursuit of what is right, just like Hal. He may be arrogant, but he is clearly brave, and a natural leader to the Corps - as his rousing speeches to his fellow Lanterns illustrates. And he comes across as absolutely genuine in how he becomes a mentor - and, later, a friend - to Hal Jordan. It'll make for compelling viewing watching this friendship fall apart in the sequel.

I've seen a lot of folk rag on Hector Hammond's role in the script, but I actually enjoyed his presence in the script. Again, a strong actor will go a long way towards the role being successfully pulled off. But Hammond had some great moments peppered through the script. The scene shortly after he is infected with the fragment of Legion, when on his commute to work he is flooded with thoughts, is a great way of illustrating his emerging powers. And though some have called it hackneyed, I found Hector's heartbreak at reading his father's thoughts and finding nothing but shame and disappointment to be rather effective. Reminded me of Commodus in "Gladiator", actually. But rather than getting bogged down in sympathy for Hammond, there are some moments where he is just such a despicable scumbag, little lines here and there that make you want to see him go down. I think it'll be cool seeing Hector deteriorate on-screen, becoming increasingly twisted and disgusting as the transformation continues. There's no getting around the fact that he's ultimately a placeholder villain until Sinestro is ready to take his place as Hal's TRUE nemesis in the sequel(s), but given this inevitable limitation, I think Hector worked about as well as we could expect him to.

Weaknesses? I think the script suffers from a lot of the same pitfalls that other origin films following this template fall into. Namely, the film is at its most interesting before our protagonist becomes a superhero. It's here that the individuality of the character and his supporting cast is best captured. When Green Lantern makes his public debut, we cut into what is - in my opinion - one of the film's weakest sequences: a montage chronicling GL's various exploits. Saving people from burning buildings, stopping bank-robbers, basically the kinda stuff that could be done by any hero. And from here on out, it's strictly formula. Hero fights main villain. Hero fails. Hero learns important lesson about himself. Hero captures girl. Hero uses newly-gained inner strength to defeat villain. Hero saves girl. Hero kisses girl. We've seen before that it's a successful formula, but I doubt it's going to be enough to truly set "Green Lantern" apart from the crowd.

However, even if "Green Lantern" is ultimately too formulaic to truly become a breakout mainstream hit, it seems like the film is packed with enough fanboy-exciting nuggets - such as roles for Alan Scott and Guy Gardner - for it to satisfy existing GL fans, and give them the film they've long been waiting for. And - with all the set-up and references to it - perhaps the most important role "Green Lantern" will play is as a prelude to a superior sequel.

[Lestat74]

After taking a day to let my excitement die down, I think it's about time for me to come back and offer a full review of the "Green Lantern" script.

This was a fun, breezy read, and I soared through it. It's by no means a classic. In fact, I'd say the "Jonah Hex" script I'm currently reading is actually better than the "Green Lantern" script. That's not saying anything against this though. Just that it's nothing overly original. It basically sticks to the "superhero movie origin" template, which is fine. Of course, when compared to "The Dark Knight", it suffers. But I think that will be the case with most superhero movies from here on in, as "The Dark Knight" set the bar so high. And on it's own less-ambitious merits, this film does just fine.

A big strength is that the script is largely faithful to the mythos of Green Lantern, and the characters, for the most part, ring true. The characters and their interactions are one of the script's major strengths. Hal manages to at once be a likeable protagonist and an arrogant jerk. I think with an actor as talented as Ryan Gosling in the role, Hal will really come to life and be an entertaining, nuanced hero. In particular, I think the scenes with Carol - third act machinations aside - ring more true, and come across as more "grown up" than some of the soap opera stylings found in the likes of "Spider-Man". With the right actress for Carol, the dialogue provided here could be a basis for some strong chemistry throughout their shared scenes in the film.

I found myself getting continual sparks of excitement when it came to the various members of the Corps popping up. Tomar-Re and Kilowog have very small roles. In particular, I feel Kilowog could benefit from more face-time - perhaps even through a sparring session with Hal. You know the John Goodman rumor must be BS, because they wouldn't bring an actor of that stature in to say three lines. The Guardians are handled excellently - Berlanti and co nailed the aloof, beurocratic dickishness which defines them. But I was saddened to see no sign of Ganthet, a character I am rather fond of.

But the best-handled of all these alien figures is Sinestro. Kudos to the writing team for not pulling the trigger on his descent into villainy. But at the same time, the warning signs are all there. I loved the allusions to Sinestro's fascination - bordering on obsession - with "the yellow light" and the power of fear, even though he won't acknowledge it even to himself. And it's hinted at, rather than hammered over our heads. But Sinestro is more than just a redflagged villain-in-waiting. We see him as a well-rounded figure, someone who stands up to the Guardians in the pursuit of what is right, just like Hal. He may be arrogant, but he is clearly brave, and a natural leader to the Corps - as his rousing speeches to his fellow Lanterns illustrates. And he comes across as absolutely genuine in how he becomes a mentor - and, later, a friend - to Hal Jordan. It'll make for compelling viewing watching this friendship fall apart in the sequel.

I've seen a lot of folk rag on Hector Hammond's role in the script, but I actually enjoyed his presence in the script. Again, a strong actor will go a long way towards the role being successfully pulled off. But Hammond had some great moments peppered through the script. The scene shortly after he is infected with the fragment of Legion, when on his commute to work he is flooded with thoughts, is a great way of illustrating his emerging powers. And though some have called it hackneyed, I found Hector's heartbreak at reading his father's thoughts and finding nothing but shame and disappointment to be rather effective. Reminded me of Commodus in "Gladiator", actually. But rather than getting bogged down in sympathy for Hammond, there are some moments where he is just such a despicable scumbag, little lines here and there that make you want to see him go down. I think it'll be cool seeing Hector deteriorate on-screen, becoming increasingly twisted and disgusting as the transformation continues. There's no getting around the fact that he's ultimately a placeholder villain until Sinestro is ready to take his place as Hal's TRUE nemesis in the sequel(s), but given this inevitable limitation, I think Hector worked about as well as we could expect him to.

Weaknesses? I think the script suffers from a lot of the same pitfalls that other origin films following this template fall into. Namely, the film is at its most interesting before our protagonist becomes a superhero. It's here that the individuality of the character and his supporting cast is best captured. When Green Lantern makes his public debut, we cut into what is - in my opinion - one of the film's weakest sequences: a montage chronicling GL's various exploits. Saving people from burning buildings, stopping bank-robbers, basically the kinda stuff that could be done by any hero. And from here on out, it's strictly formula. Hero fights main villain. Hero fails. Hero learns important lesson about himself. Hero captures girl. Hero uses newly-gained inner strength to defeat villain. Hero saves girl. Hero kisses girl. We've seen before that it's a successful formula, but I doubt it's going to be enough to truly set "Green Lantern" apart from the crowd.

However, even if "Green Lantern" is ultimately too formulaic to truly become a breakout mainstream hit, it seems like the film is packed with enough fanboy-exciting nuggets - such as roles for Alan Scott and Guy Gardner - for it to satisfy existing GL fans, and give them the film they've long been waiting for. And - with all the set-up and references to it - perhaps the most important role "Green Lantern" will play is as a prelude to a superior sequel.

I agree with just about everything you said. I thought this was a kick ass script that deserves the praise it has been getting. Green Lantern should FUN, but not stupid. The comparisons to Iron Man are more than fair...it reminded me a LOT of that script for sure. GL should NOT be Dark Knight or even attempt to be. If they cast this the same way they cast Iron Man, this is a surefire hit. This script introduces what could seem like goofy concepts to a lot of the uninitiated, like the oath and the gaurdians and the like, and does it with an easygoing humor that's having fun with the concepts but not making fun of them. ( again, just like Iron Man ) Sure, we've seen the Super Hero origin several times now, but that's just a staple of this genre. You can't NOT do it. I really, really enjoyed this script and it made me smile several times. It might need a few tweeks here and there, but I can see why the studio went nuts for it. Can't wait to see it on the big screen.

[StorminNorman]

I really hope Tom is written out.

Anthony Anderson already played him in Transformers.

[I Am The Knight]

I really hope Tom is written out.

Anthony Anderson already played him in Transformers.

WOW.

Now I really need to read this.

[The Guard]

I really hope Tom is written out.

Anthony Anderson already played him in Transformers.

Exactly. But I'd prefer to see him written BETTER than written out.

[FaT_tONle]

Not to take away anything from this project/script, but can someone elaborate on the Kent cameo if it's even in there? Is it barely noticable or something somewhat relevant... like a Stark cameo or along those lines.

[The Guard]

It's barely noticeable. Really not all that important. Neither is the Gardner one. These are the only two people the ring "considers" before arriving at Hal.

[FaT_tONle]

Damn.............

[Lestat74]

I really hope Tom is written out.

Anthony Anderson already played him in Transformers.

I totally loved Tom in this script. If they get the right actor he won't be annoying. In fact, I can almost guarantee he'll be the audience favorite, as some of the most humorous moments come from Tom. I seriously don't want the inner pain and struggles of Thomas Kalmaku in this movie; he's the best friend and the comic relief and he serves that role well. He doesn't read anywhere near as over the top and spazzy as the guy from Transformers.

[Hush]

http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/10/07/5-reasons-why-fans-will-love-the-green-lantern-movie/

Pretty exciting run down of the 5 best points according to this guy. Hopefully the second draft includes aspects from New Frontier, Emerald Dawn and some of the retcons and scenes from Rebirth.

[dsfjr1190]

Can someone PM me the script? Please?

[protocida]

Six things that would make "Green Lantern" the perfect script:

1. Invert the final battles. First Hammond, then Legion.
2. Remove the white temples. The Parallax reference can be made in a different way.
3. Slow down Hector Hammond's downfall to villany to explain his motives.
4. Give Killowog and Tomar-Re more time to shine.
5. Expand the movie lenght to give some depht to the explanations.
6. Give Carol Ferris some sleet.

That way, "Green Lantern" will easylly surpass "Iron Man" and other movies.

[Icelander]

Can someone please pm me the script? thanks in advance!

[solidsnake86]

I can see why people are complaining about certain aspects and comparing, for example tom, to transformers but thats what audiences love too see. I only read the first half of it and its exactly what an origin story should be, formulaic yes, but it works so why mess with something that is tried tested and true. Just because a few fanboys think it should try to separate itself doesnt mean its the best move for WB (Think SR). They want to make money above all and the jokes in the script will provide the laughs for the audience. The only thing I can see hampering this movie is the FX because it sure did have a lot (I can see this being quite expensive), there going to have to pull it off in order for it not to become cheesy, that means investing money. I think by not using sinestro as the villain, a sequel, has the potential to be on par with TDK. I can also see them possibly changing legion to atrocitus for cost reasons. Those are my thoughts.

[Frosty81]

Would someone be kind enough to pm this.

Thanks much.

[louiebling$]

Yea I would like a PM of the script too please or an Email: Louiebling@tmail.com

[I Am The Knight]

OK as of right now who has it and who doesn't? I will send it to you (Yes I have nothing to do).

[Doctor Jones]

Please PM me the script I Am The Knight.

[louiebling$]

I don't have it

[Motown Marvel]

if the script is "transformers-eque", then im going to be very very disappointed.

[I Am The Knight]

But do you want it? :hehe:

[Jake Cassidy]

if the script is "transformers-eque", then im going to be very very disappointed.

I'd be very very happy. Then again, I'm not really that picky. :)

[ironman29758]

can anyone pm the script to me.

[StorminNorman]

I totally loved Tom in this script. If they get the right actor he won't be annoying. In fact, I can almost guarantee he'll be the audience favorite, as some of the most humorous moments come from Tom. I seriously don't want the inner pain and struggles of Thomas Kalmaku in this movie; he's the best friend and the comic relief and he serves that role well. He doesn't read anywhere near as over the top and spazzy as the guy from Transformers.

Are you kidding me? Not as over the top and spazzy? The dude freaked out because he beat a level in Halo 3. The dude was sad because his video game aliens don't seem as cool as the real life ones. The dude gets a space ship and his first thought it "HA! I can spend time with my BFF!"

He was there to provide comic relief in a script that had plenty of comedy besides it.

You want Hal to have a friend to talk to? Fine - but make sure he isn't a cartoon character, which is exactly what Tom is at this point.

[Lestat74]

Are you kidding me? Not as over the top and spazzy? The dude freaked out because he beat a level in Halo 3. The dude was sad because his video game aliens don't seem as cool as the real life ones. The dude gets a space ship and his first thought it "HA! I can spend time with my BFF!"

He was there to provide comic relief in a script that had plenty of comedy besides it.

You want Hal to have a friend to talk to? Fine - but make sure he isn't a cartoon character, which is exactly what Tom is at this point.

You're right. He did get freaked out because he beat a level in Halo 3. Doesn't sound like any real geeks I know at all.

I understand you might not like his characterization, but I promise he'll be the character the audience likes the most. Assuming they get the right actor of course.

[The Major]

I really hope Tom is written out.

Anthony Anderson already played him in Transformers.

I disagree.

[The Major]

I can see why people are complaining about certain aspects and comparing, for example tom, to transformers but thats what audiences love too see.

The audience loved to see IM, Spider-man and TDK, too. They're much better comparisons for a movie like GL then Transfomers.

GL shoud not be a comedy, either.

I only read the first half of it and its exactly what an origin story should be, formulaic yes, but it works so why mess with something that is tried tested and true.

Agreed.

Just because a few fanboys think it should try to separate itself doesnt mean its the best move for WB (Think SR).
It needs more then formula to work, though.

The execution will make or break it. It needs to be ahead of the curve, not behind it.

They want to make money above all and the jokes in the script will provide the laughs for the audience.

Which they can get without turning it into American Pie: Green Lantern edition.

The only thing I can see hampering this movie is the FX because it sure did have a lot (I can see this being quite expensive), there going to have to pull it off in order for it not to become cheesy, that means investing money.

Agreed.

They really should avoid making it cheesy IMO.

I think by not using sinestro as the villain, a sequel, has the potential to be on par with TDK.

They need to make their own Batman Begins first.

Saving Sinestro for a sequel doesn't mean it will end up wih TDK success, either.

I can also see them possibly changing legion to atrocitus for cost reasons. Those are my thoughts.

Agreed.

[The Major]

You're right. He did get freaked out because he beat a level in Halo 3. Doesn't sound like any real geeks I know at all.

He was a unfunny caricature which had many of the negative aspects the public identifies with geeks. He also was in it for about five minutes and was almost completely useless in all of it.

I understand you might not like his characterization, but I promise he'll be the character the audience likes the most. Assuming they get the right actor of course.

Shouldn't it be Hal the character audiences love the most?

[StorminNorman]

You're right. He did get freaked out because he beat a level in Halo 3. Doesn't sound like any real geeks I know at all.

No, these days - they don't. Thats the problem with making pop culture references like this - by the time the film is actually released, its completely out of date. It dates the film unnecessarily.

I understand you might not like his characterization, but I promise he'll be the character the audience likes the most. Assuming they get the right actor of course.

But he SHOULDN'T be the character the audience likes the most. Plus I would much rather have a less liked character that acts like a human being over having a cartoon character that we have now in Tom.

[StorminNorman]

I disagree.

Why and in which way?

[The Major]

No, these days - they don't. Thats the problem with making pop culture references like this - by the time the film is actually released, its completely out of date. It dates the film unnecessarily.

But he SHOULDN'T be the character the audience likes the most. Plus I would much rather have a less liked character that acts like a human being over having a cartoon character that we have now in Tom.

Agreed.

[StorminNorman]

The audience loved to see IM, Spider-man and TDK, too. They're much better comparisons for a movie like GL then Transfomers.

GL shoud not be a comedy, either.

Personally when I read it I read more Iron Man than I read Transformers though I think the two movies are MUCH SIMILAR than most on this board would like to admit.

[The Major]

Why and in which way?

He was purely comic relief. No depth, toxic personality, he sold out his friends at the first opportunity, seemed hostile to everyone, had to bribed to do anything good.

I didn't see him have anything in common with Tom other then being a comedy sidekick minority character.

[The Major]

Personally when I read it I read more Iron Man than I read Transformers though I think the two movies are MUCH SIMILAR than most on this board would like to admit.

TF and IM are similar. I'm not denying that.

It's just that IM executed its comedy and concept better, didn't allow its comedy to overwhelm the movie, better character development and had more depth overall.

[StorminNorman]

He was purely comic relief. No depth, toxic personality, he sold out his friends at the first opportunity, seemed hostile to everyone, had to bribed to do anything good.

I didn't see him have anything in common with Tom other then being a comedy sidekick minority character.

I didn't think Tom had any depth either.

While you are correct, there are a few irrelevant differences between the two, (as you stated) they are both minority side kick cartoons that add nothing beneficial to the story.

[Webhead2006]

I still never got a pm with the script, i asked for it a few times so thanks in advance if any one can pass it my way.

[The Major]

I didn't think Tom had any depth either.

I haven't read much of Tom but he does have depth.

While you are correct, there are a few irrelevant differences between the two, (as you stated) they are both minority side kick cartoons that add nothing beneficial to the story.

Tom had some benefits to GL. He was Hal's sidekick/best friend/co-worker. He works better as an average person then a comic relief IMO.

Andersen's character was merely there for the hot agent chick to decode a classified signal IIRC who proceeded to sell her out a few minutes later then basically disappeared afterward. They could have just combined his character with the hot agent and no-one would notice. They couldn't do that with Tom.

[voodootroll]

If somone could PM me the GL script that would be great. thanks.

:gl: :gl:

[The Major]

Could I get a pm of the script, please?

[BizarroAids]

From all these good reviews, my interest is sparked.

I'd appreciate a pm with the script.:woot:

[protocida]

The Latino Review script review alredy showed us one change of the second draft: Only Killowog goes back to Earth with Hal to face Hector Hammond, apparently.

[BobJM]

Anyone who has the script, I'd greatly appreciate a pm

[voodootroll]

There were parts i love. Mostly the beginning and parts i really didnt like.

i thought the dinner scene with the ring cracking the lobster was way too cheesy.

im also not a big fan of the 10 ring hal jordan thing. its like... oh wow, no one has ever thought of doing that ever in the history of the lantern core.

also not a huge fan of the grey hair. i was so glad when they went back to normal in the comics. makes him look way too old.

but i loved sinestro! (sorta wish they showed him with the yellow ring, maybe after the credits or something)

i really hope the whole core dosnt swoop down to save earth from 6 drone planes.

love cameos from kent and gardner (even though gardners my least favorite lantern).

just some random thoughts.

[Webhead2006]

Hopefully the later drafts have fixed/altered/changed things that didnt work well at first.

[Lord Blackbolt]

I hope they get Brandon Routh or Dean Cain to cameo as clark kent

[arman200]

I was really disappointed by the script. I don't know why Legion is made to be the main villain, I hate that he's become so much like Parallax, and that Hal has gotten gray hair so early. The script will also assume plenty of these things will make fans geek out, but I wasn't really ever excited about any of it. Not even the alan scott part
Was there ever a training scene with Kilowog? I skimmed through a large portion and found nothing but Hal speaking to the guardians and refusing to go through training(which I found disappointing, because I think that'd be great to see on film).

Also,For what reason was the script is based off of Emerald Dawn? Am I alone in thinking it was bad(from what I remember at least)?

[pyrobisson]

Can someone pm the link to the script ? thanks.

[Jack Ups]

can someone also PM me the script.
If so ill start pming the script round to those who ask.:yay:

[Webhead2006]

well you do got to remember this is what the first draft of the script and the writers have stated they have done atless 2-3 more drafts since then and many things could have been changed/altered/removed/etc....

[da batman]

I would also like to read this script, just read my first script (green arrow) and wasn't a fan so hopefully this one will be better. If anyone can help with a PM that would be great.

[arman200]

well you do got to remember this is what the first draft of the script and the writers have stated they have done atless 2-3 more drafts since then and many things could have been changed/altered/removed/etc....
I realize there have been changes, but what we have now is disappointing. If this was the final draft, I'd be outraged.

[Webhead2006]

YEa i would probably be too, i still need to read the draft myself to judge it better. I was meaning to print it out earlier today to read on my own but forgot to do it. Will do it tomorrow well today.

[Batman1939]

PM Script Please

[Octoberist]

I know that this is the first draft and it is stepping in the right direction.

But I don't like the tone of it. Not that I want it to be super serious or dark, but it feels a notch lower in quality when compared to..let's say Iron Man. There's something TV movieish about the script..obviously, the writers are from the TV world.

[bapi]

I just read Act 1 and I think it's brilliant. I really love it. And I don't wanna see "The Dark Lantern" or what...

[Octoberist]

well, i mean, i don't think anyone wants the dark lantern.

I persoanlly think what can help is better dialog. In the script, the dialog is servable..but nothing too special.

[I Am The Knight]

Well, I finally read it.

And I liked it. There are some great scenes, some ruined would-be great scenes, and some eye-rolling inducing ones.

I'm with the majority of you who have actually read it...I don't like the tone in the first act much at all. It IS Iron Man. A DC/WB version of Favreau's Iron Man. Hal Jordan feels like a toned down version of Tony Stark, withouth the money and power, at least in the first act. He even has Stark's same character arc.

Berlanti wants us to think he's "cool"...So his introduction is the aftermath of him banging a yoga instructor, then being chased by her "Huge Motherf***ing Boyfriend"...Running late to a test flight at Ferris Aircraft. Comedy gold!

Carol Ferris is OK. She's the most normal person in the script, I guess. There's not much to her character, but at least she's not irritating or anything. I wish her history with Hal had been explored a bit more.

"Pieface" is the comic relief. He ruins what is to me a pivotal scene in the movie, and is basically a huge fanboy. Some of you guys say he's comparable to Anthony Anderson's character in Transformers....And I somewhat agree. But he's a toned down version of that. As long as the actor does not play him as an overexcited geek I don't think anyone should care much...He does have a couple of funny lines/moments.

Hector Hammond is OK. If there is one thing this script is missing, that would be a strong antagonist. Next to Legion, who is basically just a metaphor-ish monster thing, he's the main baddie in the movie. He does some fun things with his powers, but he seems a bit of a standard villain. Kind of like Stane in Iron Man, withouth the added presence of a Jeff Bridges. Of course, this depends on who they cast, although based on Hammond's powers, he should be more fun to follow around that Stane was. And his first confrontation with GL after the death of Senator Hammond I really dug.

There is one scene that irritated me a bit, and that is Hal Jordan's discovery of Abin Sur, and the passing of the ring. This moment is completely iconic to me, but, to break the tension, I guess, Berlanti feels the need to intercut to TOM KALMAKU, in full geek mode, boasting about how he just beat a level in Halo 3, killing the moment with an unnecesary pop reference. I wouldn't care much if that scene was placed somewhere else, but in this pivotal moment in Hal's life, it felt out of place.

By the time we get around the second act, the tone of the script gets a bit more serious, mainly because Jordan does not have the time to be a cool irresponsible jerk anymore, and goes visiting Oa, and the Corps. These scenes are described as HUGE and BEAUTIFUL, and I'm sure they will be.

I think Green Lantern's reveal back on Earth, at the air show, lacked a bit of punch. Mainly because we have already seen Hal in costume, not to mention a gazillion other GL's, doing impressive feats. The scene is still cool, with GL having to stop flying jets from crashing down on unexpecting crowds, who go wild at the sight of GL, turning him into an instant sensation. The whole sequence reminded me of the plane sequence in "Superman Returns" ... If we had already seen Superman flying around with plenty of other Supermen.

I guess that's the main difference, that will set this movie apart from other superhero pics produced so far. The main hero is not unique in any way, shape or form. Well, except for tha fact that he's human. And the personality thing, even if I don't like that particular personality that much...But Hal is much more likeable once he becomes GL. They'll have to cast an actor with a great deal of charisma, or who can play this "cocky fun pilot" Jordan. I don't know if Jordan has ever been written like this, but oh well. After reading this script, I can't imagine Gosling in the role. His solemn face does not match with the character that's on the page. This Hal Jordan seems to be more...Yes, Josh Duhamel like. You win, people.

Anyway, from here on the script goes full into the standard superhero movie antics. GL stops a few crimes, saves some people, the media wonders about him, etc.

He also has a nice moment with Carol, where he basically creates of replica of Paris for her on Ferris Aircraft.

Now, conerning the action...There's some pretty big effects laden sequences in this script. The movie reads expen$$$ive. The aformentioned fight with Hammond, the fight with Legion on Oa and the depleting of the Central Battery, GL's intro, all offer some pretty good eye candy, the likes of which he haven't exactly seen before. The movie will be a bonafide effects extravaganza, as it should be. But this isn't too hard to get right. You would have to be a real idiot not to get the potential of a GL movie, but Berlanti and Co definitely deliver on the action front.

They also get props for the *ahem* rescue of Carol Ferris in the last act, and the last action sequence. Hal has to "prove" himself as a worthwhile hero to Carol, someone she can finally count on, and so on. It's a nice sequence where the two end up plummeting to their deaths after escaping a Hammond controlled F-16. Hal's ring is conveniently out of power, of course, so he can't save themselves. As they fall, they finally kiss and if played well, it should be a really nice moment in the film. I really dug it, but then again, I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff :hehe:

Oh, I forgot. Sinestro is written fairly seriously. Integrity intact. He's a strong leader, and a proper GL, but conflicts with the Guardinas, as expected. So, the writers get props for not messing him up :up:

All the GL Corps you would expect from a GL movie make appearances.

We come to the end of the film, Hammond has been put away, Legion has been defeated, and GL decides to go back and actually undergo training under Sinestro's guidance. I gotta say, the ending lacks a bit of a punch. Hal's last line falls kind of flat, like there's something missing, or as if he said the wrong thing in response to Sinestro. There are no great lines in the overall script that I can recall.

Final Thoughts: It's an entertaining, fun script. Maybe too much "fun" in parts, which kind of turned me off. I've always imagined Green Lantern to be a fairly serious superhero, not devoid of humor, but a bit more serious than this. As you can see on my avatar, I don't have a problem with Iron Man, or Iron Man's tone. But I don't really want that for GL.

So...If the final product is somewhat like this, I won't complain too much...I guess they better get really likable actors for this movie, as that's the only way I'll feel comfortable with the first act..

Also, don't expect anything revolutionary from this one. The script is Super-Hero 101, with a few exceptions, like the existence of the Corps undermining Hal's uniqueness. But nevertheless, it's a solid enough draft for the first movie in an intended franchise, so it gets a 7 from me, and here's hoping for a much superior final product...Or sequel.

[RAMORE]

I am one of a million people who want the script sent to them:D

[RAMORE]

never mind:D I'll uh...be back in like two hours...i've uh got to check on something:D

[ALKAL]

Hi!

Can someone PM me the link to the script?

Thank you! ;)

[Octoberist]

Well, I finally read it.

And I liked it. There are some great scenes, some ruined would-be great scenes, and some eye-rolling inducing ones.

I'm with the majority of you who have actually read it...I don't like the tone in the first act much at all. It IS Iron Man. A DC/WB version of Favreau's Iron Man. Hal Jordan feels like a toned down version of Tony Stark, withouth the money and power, at least in the first act. He even has Stark's same character arc.

Berlanti wants us to think he's "cool"...So his introduction is the aftermath of him banging a yoga instructor, then being chased by her "Huge Motherf***ing Boyfriend"...Running late to a test flight at Ferris Aircraft. Comedy gold!

Carol Ferris is OK. She's the most normal person in the script, I guess. There's not much to her character, but at least she's not irritating or anything. I wish her history with Hal had been explored a bit more.

"Pieface" is the comic relief. He ruins what is to me a pivotal scene in the movie, and is basically a huge fanboy. Some of you guys say he's comparable to Anthony Anderson's character in Transformers....And I somewhat agree. But he's a toned down version of that. As long as the actor does not play him as an overexcited geek I don't think anyone should care much...He does have a couple of funny lines/moments.

Hector Hammond is OK. If there is one thing this script is missing, that would be a strong antagonist. Next to Legion, who is basically just a metaphor-ish monster thing, he's the main baddie in the movie. He does some fun things with his powers, but he seems a bit of a standard villain. Kind of like Stane in Iron Man, withouth the added presence of a Jeff Bridges. Of course, this depends on who they cast, although based on Hammond's powers, he should be more fun to follow around that Stane was. And his first confrontation with GL after the death of Senator Hammond I really dug.

There is one scene that irritated me a bit, and that is Hal Jordan's discovery of Abin Sur, and the passing of the ring. This moment is completely iconic to me, but, to break the tension, I guess, Berlanti feels the need to intercut to TOM KALMAKU, in full geek mode, boasting about how he just beat a level in Halo 3, killing the moment with an unnecesary pop reference. I wouldn't care much if that scene was placed somewhere else, but in this pivotal moment in Hal's life, it felt out of place.

By the time we get around the second act, the tone of the script gets a bit more serious, mainly because Jordan does not have the time to be a cool irresponsible jerk anymore, and goes visiting Oa, and the Corps. These scenes are described as HUGE and BEAUTIFUL, and I'm sure they will be.

I think Green Lantern's reveal back on Earth, at the air show, lacked a bit of punch. Mainly because we have already seen Hal in costume, not to mention a gazillion other GL's, doing impressive feats. The scene is still cool, with GL having to stop flying jets from crashing down on unexpecting crowds, who go wild at the sight of GL, turning him into an instant sensation. The whole sequence reminded me of the plane sequence in "Superman Returns" ... If we had already seen Superman flying around with plenty of other Supermen.

I guess that's the main difference, that will set this movie apart from other superhero pics produced so far. The main hero is not unique in any way, shape or form. Well, except for tha fact that he's human. And the personality thing, even if I don't like that particular personality that much...But Hal is much more likeable once he becomes GL. They'll have to cast an actor with a great deal of charisma, or who can play this "cocky fun pilot" Jordan. I don't know if Jordan has ever been written like this, but oh well. After reading this script, I can't imagine Gosling in the role. His solemn face does not match with the character that's on the page. This Hal Jordan seems to be more...Yes, Josh Duhamel like. You win, people.

Anyway, from here on the script goes full into the standard superhero movie antics. GL stops a few crimes, saves some people, the media wonders about him, etc.

He also has a nice moment with Carol, where he basically creates of replica of Paris for her on Ferris Aircraft.

Now, conerning the action...There's some pretty big effects laden sequences in this script. The movie reads expen$$$ive. The aformentioned fight with Hammond, the fight with Legion on Oa and the depleting of the Central Battery, GL's intro, all offer some pretty good eye candy, the likes of which he haven't exactly seen before. The movie will be a bonafide effects extravaganza, as it should be. But this isn't too hard to get right. You would have to be a real idiot not to get the potential of a GL movie, but Berlanti and Co definitely deliver on the action front.

They also get props for the *ahem* rescue of Carol Ferris in the last act, and the last action sequence. Hal has to "prove" himself as a worthwhile hero to Carol, someone she can finally count on, and so on. It's a nice sequence where the two end up plummeting to their deaths after escaping a Hammond controlled F-16. Hal's ring is conveniently out of power, of course, so he can't save themselves. As they fall, they finally kiss and if played well, it should be a really nice moment in the film. I really dug it, but then again, I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff :hehe:

Oh, I forgot. Sinestro is written fairly seriously. Integrity intact. He's a strong leader, and a proper GL, but conflicts with the Guardinas, as expected. So, the writers get props for not messing him up :up:

All the GL Corps you would expect from a GL movie make appearances.

We come to the end of the film, Hammond has been put away, Legion has been defeated, and GL decides to go back and actually undergo training under Sinestro's guidance. I gotta say, the ending lacks a bit of a punch. Hal's last line falls kind of flat, like there's something missing, or as if he said the wrong thing in response to Sinestro. There are no great lines in the overall script that I can recall.

Final Thoughts: It's an entertaining, fun script. Maybe too much "fun" in parts, which kind of turned me off. I've always imagined Green Lantern to be a fairly serious superhero, not devoid of humor, but a bit more serious than this. As you can see on my avatar, I don't have a problem with Iron Man, or Iron Man's tone. But I don't really want that for GL.

So...If the final product is somewhat like this, I won't complain too much...I guess they better get really likable actors for this movie, as that's the only way I'll feel comfortable with the first act..

Also, don't expect anything revolutionary from this one. The script is Super-Hero 101, with a few exceptions, like the existence of the Corps undermining Hal's uniqueness. But nevertheless, it's a solid enough draft for the first movie in an intended franchise, so it gets a 7 from me, and here's hoping for a much superior final product...Or sequel.

This is the most spot-on review that I've read...ever.

It's not a bad script. But it NEEDS revisions. I'm surprised that Latino Review or IESB didn't notice the Iron Man similarities, though it's all consequential.

The first act needs a major overhaul. The 'Sabre' jet, and the 'coffin corner' is too Iron Man like (and even too Ang Lee 'Hulk'). The sleeping with the yoga instructor bit is too sitcomy, while yeah, I agree that the iconic moment when Hal gets the ring gets ruined by Tom.

However, the script does get better by ACt II and III. So hopefully, the writers can clean it up by spring.

Again, I agree, it's a fun script but I don't know where it stands when it comes to the likes of Iron Man, Spider-Man or Batman. I felt like the writers need to take the script seriously. By all means, I don't want an ultra serious dark movie; I feel like that they can do better at fleshing out the details.

[I Am The Knight]

This is the most spot-on review that I've read...ever.

It's not a bad script. But it NEEDS revisions. I'm surprised that Latino Review or IESB didn't notice the Iron Man similarities, though it's all consequential.

The first act needs a major overhaul. The 'Sabre' jet, and the 'coffin corner' is too Iron Man like (and even too Ang Lee 'Hulk'). The sleeping with the yoga instructor bit is too sitcomy, while yeah, I agree that the iconic moment when Hal gets the ring gets ruined by Tom.

However, the script does get better by ACt II and III. So hopefully, the writers can clean it up by spring.

Again, I agree, it's a fun script but I don't know where it stands when it comes to the likes of Iron Man, Spider-Man or Batman. I felt like the writers need to take the script seriously. By all means, I don't want an ultra serious dark movie; I feel like that they can do better at fleshing out the details.

Thanks, and agreed. Hopefully the latest drafts address this :hehe:

[Webhead2006]

Yea i hope with the new drafts they have done they have fixed things up. As for the script i finally started reading it today. I only got to page 19 so far. Sounds good so far.

[GreenLantern1]

I need to read this! Someone please PM me the script. Ill send you Jonah Hex and Green Arrow in return if you want.

[solidsnake86]

double post

[solidsnake86]

I finished reading it and I think its an amazing start. Just a few things though, this is going to be an expensive movie if they keep all of those scenes in there. There are so many scenes with the fighter jets and flying that its impossible to imagine it costing less than Superman Returns. I really believe the newer drafts will have to cut a lot of the action scenes out of the film unless they get really creative or WB opens there wallet. Its absolutely necessary they hire an amazing effects company because I think at the end of the day that will make or break this film. If they clean up some things here and there it has the potential to be really big.

[Webhead2006]

yea things have/will probaly had to get changed or edited slighly for budget reasons.

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

EDIT: I didn't press the Reply button twice... o_O

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

It's not too shabby. Overall, I'd give it an 8 out of 10. It reads awkwardly quite a few times, and- more importantly- this is a story that doesn't need Hector Hammond. He plays a limited role at best, and his origin doesn't make sense. Still, fairly good for a story inspired by a Green Lantern origin story that I didn't like. Hopefully, even though the second draft will most likely use Hector Hammond, it'll be polished in all the right places.

[Katsuro]

I finished reading it and I think its an amazing start. Just a few things though, this is going to be an expensive movie if they keep all of those scenes in there. There are so many scenes with the fighter jets and flying that its impossible to imagine it costing less than Superman Returns. I really believe the newer drafts will have to cut a lot of the action scenes out of the film unless they get really creative or WB opens there wallet. Its absolutely necessary they hire an amazing effects company because I think at the end of the day that will make or break this film. If they clean up some things here and there it has the potential to be really big.

I actually think people are overestimating how much this movie is going to cost. Sure, there's a ton of effects, but almost all of it is nothing but green light. Depending on how they make the constructs look, they probably wont have to worry about things like texture, and definatley not color, which i'm sure take up a great deal of time.

Of course, I have absolutely no knowledge of the special effects industry, so i'm only guessing. But it sounds to me like making a big glowing green fist is a lot easier and cheaper then animating Superman's cape every time he flies (which apparently was a very daunting task for the effects team, and the sole reason he doesn't have the yellow s-shield on his cape).

[Webhead2006]

maybe they can drop hammond from later drafts and leave him for second film along with sinestro.

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

My problem isn't with the script being overstuffed. It's that Legion has a definite reason for being, whereas Hammond is just...there. He gets his powers in a very vague way, finds himself conveniently close enough to Hal's affairs to become a rival, and then he's throwing stuff around. None of it is steeped enough in the lore, so I don't see why he had to be in the script for a first film. I'd rather they gave Legion a personality.

[The Major]

I finished reading it and I think its an amazing start. Just a few things though, this is going to be an expensive movie if they keep all of those scenes in there. There are so many scenes with the fighter jets and flying that its impossible to imagine it costing less than Superman Returns. I really believe the newer drafts will have to cut a lot of the action scenes out of the film unless they get really creative or WB opens there wallet. Its absolutely necessary they hire an amazing effects company because I think at the end of the day that will make or break this film. If they clean up some things here and there it has the potential to be really big.

The Serenity special effects crew could do it.

Special Effects



K.N.B. Effects Group (http://www.imdb.com/company/co0015640/) (special effects makeup)
Pacific Title (http://www.imdb.com/company/co0001256/) (opticals)
Zoic Studios (http://www.imdb.com/company/co0081109/) (visual effects)
Rhythm and Hues (http://www.imdb.com/company/co0075252/) (visual effects) (as Rhythm & Hues Studios)
Illusion Arts (http://www.imdb.com/company/co0018703/) (special visual effects)
Perpetual Motion Pictures (http://www.imdb.com/company/co0014226/) (visual effects)
Grant McCune Design (http://www.imdb.com/company/co0037672/) (miniature sequences)

[Banshee]

Hey I'm a bit late to the fold, could someone PM me the script? Thanks in advance.

[Webhead2006]

Yea like i said maybe in one of the later drafts they could see hammond isnt working out that well and could drop him from the film. Or just not turn him into a villain.

[ALKAL]

Could someone PM me the script please?????? Please??

Thanks in advanced!!;)

[StorminNorman]

Well, I finally read it.

And I liked it. There are some great scenes, some ruined would-be great scenes, and some eye-rolling inducing ones.

I'm with the majority of you who have actually read it...I don't like the tone in the first act much at all. It IS Iron Man. A DC/WB version of Favreau's Iron Man. Hal Jordan feels like a toned down version of Tony Stark, withouth the money and power, at least in the first act. He even has Stark's same character arc.

Berlanti wants us to think he's "cool"...So his introduction is the aftermath of him banging a yoga instructor, then being chased by her "Huge Motherf***ing Boyfriend"...Running late to a test flight at Ferris Aircraft. Comedy gold!

Carol Ferris is OK. She's the most normal person in the script, I guess. There's not much to her character, but at least she's not irritating or anything. I wish her history with Hal had been explored a bit more.

"Pieface" is the comic relief. He ruins what is to me a pivotal scene in the movie, and is basically a huge fanboy. Some of you guys say he's comparable to Anthony Anderson's character in Transformers....And I somewhat agree. But he's a toned down version of that. As long as the actor does not play him as an overexcited geek I don't think anyone should care much...He does have a couple of funny lines/moments.

Hector Hammond is OK. If there is one thing this script is missing, that would be a strong antagonist. Next to Legion, who is basically just a metaphor-ish monster thing, he's the main baddie in the movie. He does some fun things with his powers, but he seems a bit of a standard villain. Kind of like Stane in Iron Man, withouth the added presence of a Jeff Bridges. Of course, this depends on who they cast, although based on Hammond's powers, he should be more fun to follow around that Stane was. And his first confrontation with GL after the death of Senator Hammond I really dug.

There is one scene that irritated me a bit, and that is Hal Jordan's discovery of Abin Sur, and the passing of the ring. This moment is completely iconic to me, but, to break the tension, I guess, Berlanti feels the need to intercut to TOM KALMAKU, in full geek mode, boasting about how he just beat a level in Halo 3, killing the moment with an unnecesary pop reference. I wouldn't care much if that scene was placed somewhere else, but in this pivotal moment in Hal's life, it felt out of place.

By the time we get around the second act, the tone of the script gets a bit more serious, mainly because Jordan does not have the time to be a cool irresponsible jerk anymore, and goes visiting Oa, and the Corps. These scenes are described as HUGE and BEAUTIFUL, and I'm sure they will be.

I think Green Lantern's reveal back on Earth, at the air show, lacked a bit of punch. Mainly because we have already seen Hal in costume, not to mention a gazillion other GL's, doing impressive feats. The scene is still cool, with GL having to stop flying jets from crashing down on unexpecting crowds, who go wild at the sight of GL, turning him into an instant sensation. The whole sequence reminded me of the plane sequence in "Superman Returns" ... If we had already seen Superman flying around with plenty of other Supermen.

I guess that's the main difference, that will set this movie apart from other superhero pics produced so far. The main hero is not unique in any way, shape or form. Well, except for tha fact that he's human. And the personality thing, even if I don't like that particular personality that much...But Hal is much more likeable once he becomes GL. They'll have to cast an actor with a great deal of charisma, or who can play this "cocky fun pilot" Jordan. I don't know if Jordan has ever been written like this, but oh well. After reading this script, I can't imagine Gosling in the role. His solemn face does not match with the character that's on the page. This Hal Jordan seems to be more...Yes, Josh Duhamel like. You win, people.

Anyway, from here on the script goes full into the standard superhero movie antics. GL stops a few crimes, saves some people, the media wonders about him, etc.

He also has a nice moment with Carol, where he basically creates of replica of Paris for her on Ferris Aircraft.

Now, conerning the action...There's some pretty big effects laden sequences in this script. The movie reads expen$$$ive. The aformentioned fight with Hammond, the fight with Legion on Oa and the depleting of the Central Battery, GL's intro, all offer some pretty good eye candy, the likes of which he haven't exactly seen before. The movie will be a bonafide effects extravaganza, as it should be. But this isn't too hard to get right. You would have to be a real idiot not to get the potential of a GL movie, but Berlanti and Co definitely deliver on the action front.

They also get props for the *ahem* rescue of Carol Ferris in the last act, and the last action sequence. Hal has to "prove" himself as a worthwhile hero to Carol, someone she can finally count on, and so on. It's a nice sequence where the two end up plummeting to their deaths after escaping a Hammond controlled F-16. Hal's ring is conveniently out of power, of course, so he can't save themselves. As they fall, they finally kiss and if played well, it should be a really nice moment in the film. I really dug it, but then again, I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff :hehe:

Oh, I forgot. Sinestro is written fairly seriously. Integrity intact. He's a strong leader, and a proper GL, but conflicts with the Guardinas, as expected. So, the writers get props for not messing him up :up:

All the GL Corps you would expect from a GL movie make appearances.

We come to the end of the film, Hammond has been put away, Legion has been defeated, and GL decides to go back and actually undergo training under Sinestro's guidance. I gotta say, the ending lacks a bit of a punch. Hal's last line falls kind of flat, like there's something missing, or as if he said the wrong thing in response to Sinestro. There are no great lines in the overall script that I can recall.

Final Thoughts: It's an entertaining, fun script. Maybe too much "fun" in parts, which kind of turned me off. I've always imagined Green Lantern to be a fairly serious superhero, not devoid of humor, but a bit more serious than this. As you can see on my avatar, I don't have a problem with Iron Man, or Iron Man's tone. But I don't really want that for GL.

So...If the final product is somewhat like this, I won't complain too much...I guess they better get really likable actors for this movie, as that's the only way I'll feel comfortable with the first act..

Also, don't expect anything revolutionary from this one. The script is Super-Hero 101, with a few exceptions, like the existence of the Corps undermining Hal's uniqueness. But nevertheless, it's a solid enough draft for the first movie in an intended franchise, so it gets a 7 from me, and here's hoping for a much superior final product...Or sequel.

:applause:

[Webhead2006]

I hope i read some more of the script today hopefully, as i said before the other day i read up to page 19 and it sounds promising so far. I liked the Guy cameo, and if they do keep that and the clark kent one, hopefully the expand the clark one a little bit because it was pretty pointless.

[Katsuro]

I actually had no real problems with Hector Hammond in the script. He wasn't the greatest comic book movie ever, but I thought it was an interesting character. The only thing i'd suggest would be to develop Legion a bit more, making Hammond the supporting villain, perhaps even having GL defeat Hammond first, then Legion at the end.

And, of course, i'd make Legion actually Legion, not Parralax with a dash of the Manhunters thrown in.

[bapi]

So I finally read that and my rating is 7.5 out of 10. First half is almost perfect but the second is like something what I saw/read like trillion times. The biggest problems are that the script is too much short so that relationship between Carol and Hal/GL doesnt work very well for me and mainly Hector Hammond totally sucks. He is so bad written that he reminds me Dr. Doom or Iron Monger. Hes not a greatest person on the world so when he has some super powers he must be a big bad villain? Oh, boy! And also that father/son subplot doesnt work for me. I read many scripts in last few months (TIH, Wolverine, Magneto, G.I. Joe, Wonder Woman etc.) and this one is very good, I must say but Act 3 and 4 needs some rewrites.

P.S. Ryan Gosling is absolutely perfect for this role!

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

I actually had no real problems with Hector Hammond in the script. He wasn't the greatest comic book movie ever, but I thought it was an interesting character. The only thing i'd suggest would be to develop Legion a bit more, making Hammond the supporting villain, perhaps even having GL defeat Hammond first, then Legion at the end.

It's not just that he isn't the greatest, which really wasn't an expectation I personally had. It's that there really isn't much to him besides some daddy issues. Other than that, his only purposes for existing are to become a giant head of a man and provide the atypical superhero movie "twist" of having the villain put the hero's girlfriend in peril. Yes, he's a part of the canon comics. But I don't see why he needs to be in this film if that's all he's going to do.

Still, if he has to be in it, I'd rather they rewrite it so the film ends with Legion's defeat and not the other way around.

And, of course, i'd make Legion actually Legion, not Parralax with a dash of the Manhunters thrown in.

Definitely agree. It's odd that they treat Legion like Parallax, then reference Parallax later on. It's going to be repetitious and awkward in the long run.

[The Guard]

The biggest problems are that the script is too much short so that relationship between Carol and Hal/GL doesnt work very well for me and mainly Hector Hammond totally sucks. He is so bad written that he reminds me Dr. Doom or Iron Monger. Hes not a greatest person on the world so when he has some super powers he must be a big bad villain? Oh, boy! And also that father/son subplot doesnt work for me.

It's not just that he isn't the greatest, which really wasn't an expectation I personally had. It's that there really isn't much to him besides some daddy issues. Other than that, his only purposes for existing are to become a giant head of a man and provide the atypical superhero movie "twist" of having the villain put the hero's girlfriend in peril. Yes, he's a part of the canon comics. But I don't see why he needs to be in this film if that's all he's going to do.

Agreed. The script could use 15-20 pages more, and Hammond's motivations are absurdly cliche, the "father/son" paralell between Hal/Hammond is forced as hell, and just not that interesting. Hammond has got about a high school level of drama to him. The script's biggest weakness is that both it's villains are apparently too weak as concepts to work alone. Even together, they're not that impressive, beyond the obvious visual potential.

I strongly believe that Sinestro is the way to go, even as a pseudo-villain. He would be a fantastic, Magneto-level villain, and a real threat to boot. But it might drive up the price of the movie, so...

[solidsnake86]

In secret origins they made hector carols boyfriend if I'm not mistaken, I havent read the whole thing cause I'm waiting for the trade but I could see that being one way to tie him in rather than him being random. I disagree with sinestro guard, because I think his situation closely parallels harvey dent's in batman who should have been in the first movie. I'm interested to see how many changes they are planning to make though because WB liked the script that I can't see them straying to far off from it.

[Octoberist]

I think the one flaw here is how Hector is so indirectly involved with Hal or Carol. He's just there because Legion isn't exactly a dialogue type of role. Even then, he feels likes a hurdle then a villian.

[Keyser Soze]

I think the best description for Hammond is "placeholder villain". As has been said by a few, Sinestro is one of the best things in the script. But it's all build-up with him. What makes him great is that they develop him as a character, and a good man (if you can call a red-skinned alien a man), merely foreshadowing his descent into evil.

I think if they were to ham-fist Sinestro into the role of villain for the third act, it would hurt Sinestro's arc here, and make the brief moments of growing friendship between Hal and Sinestro just seem like a cheap plot device. However, if they hold off on Sinestro's turn to villainy for the sequel, while building the Hal/Sinestro friendship in this film like they do in the script, then it means "Green Lantern 2" is set to have a villain with real emotional heft and dramatic weight behind him.

So Hammond's there to fulfil the role of villain for this movie while Sinestro gets built up for the next one, and IMO the character achieves this okay. And it's also the not-unheard-of practise of including a throwaway villain in the first film so you can devote more time to the hero's origin. So in this instance the villain here is largely a plot device that represents what our protagonists need to do to truly become a hero. For another example see: Al Ghul, Ra's. And like with the Batman series, the GL franchise should get its "Joker" with the second film.

[The Guard]

If Hammond's going to be a placeholding villain, he needs to be a relevant one, and closer to Ra's Al Ghul in terms of quality than The Scarecrow. Since much is made about the alien nature of the GL Corps, Hammond could have better ties to the FBI, or some sort of government alien task force. He also needs a motivation about ten times better than the one he has.

Building up Sinestro is all well and good, however I don't think the "friendship" shown between Hal and Sinestro is so amazing and weighty that it excuses missing the opportunity to use Sinestro as the villain in the first movie. There's just not that much to it.

There are multiple methods that could work for a Green Lantern franchise. But Legion and Hammond, compared to Sinestro, don't work all that well in their present incarnations. They just need more to them.

[Evil Twin]

I really don't have a problem with saving Sinestro as a villain for a 2nd movie. But, I think you can't make the assumption right off the bat that there will be a second GL movie. Certainly I wouldn't use Batman as an example since Batman has a much higher awareness and interest from the general public. Even then, B89 led off with The Joker. Leading with your best is still a good general principle.

That said, I'm not sure that GL vs. Sinestro has any real resonance among the general public either. That said, you definitely want to make sure that the villains you do use are memorable and interesting. That's something we really can't say for Hammond in the first draft.

[I Am The Knight]

I really don't have a problem with saving Sinestro as a villain for a 2nd movie. But, I think you can't make the assumption right off the bat that there will be a second GL movie. Certainly I wouldn't use Batman as an example since Batman has a much higher awareness and interest from the general public. Even then, B89 led off with The Joker. Leading with your best is still a good general principle.

It's a gamble, but it should pay off.

That said, I'm not sure that GL vs. Sinestro has any real resonance among the general public either. That said, you definitely want to make sure that the villains you do use are memorable and interesting. That's something we really can't say for Hammond in the first draft.

Right. It has no resonance to them because they don't know the characters. People will be more attracted to the GL concept itself as a whole, so I think you can save the important villain for the second film.

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

It would be interesting if they made Sinestro's turn a plot point in the first film. I feel like it runs the risk of rushing things, but since there would be plenty of room without Hammond to add even more development it could work. I'm just shooting out ideas, but...maybe you could have Sinestro carve out a hunk of Legion in secret, put on the resulting ring, and find himself pitted against the Corps when he shares this new power with them. For the character gaps in between, maybe an idea of what his world is like could be developed. Just ideas, of course, but something that I think would be much more interesting than Hammond's current story arc.

[solidsnake86]

I really don't have a problem with saving Sinestro as a villain for a 2nd movie. But, I think you can't make the assumption right off the bat that there will be a second GL movie. Certainly I wouldn't use Batman as an example since Batman has a much higher awareness and interest from the general public. Even then, B89 led off with The Joker. Leading with your best is still a good general principle.

That said, I'm not sure that GL vs. Sinestro has any real resonance among the general public either. That said, you definitely want to make sure that the villains you do use are memorable and interesting. That's something we really can't say for Hammond in the first draft.

I completely agree with not saving a villain for a second film when you dont even know if there will be one. If this were superman I would completely agree. However, with Green Lantern you are also right in that no one probably knows that sinestro is a villain.

I don't know a great deal about the green lantern comics and dont really know if hammond and legion are very big villains within his universe. All I know is that sinestro is. But than again they just brought hal back what, 4 years ago, so they are most likely reinventing all of his villains or adding depth to them. It was all about the timing of this script and I'm wondering if they would have followed Secret Origins as opposed to emerald dawn now because it seems to have added to the mythos from what people are saying. Like the addition of Hammond as carols boyfriend, abins reason for going to earth and atrocitus as the villain.

[SonikDeath]

Could someone PM me the script, please ? :D

[Dark Knight]

If Hammond's going to be a placeholding villain, he needs to be a relevant one, and closer to Ra's Al Ghul in terms of quality than The Scarecrow. Since much is made about the alien nature of the GL Corps, Hammond could have better ties to the FBI, or some sort of government alien task force. He also needs a motivation about ten times better than the one he has.

Building up Sinestro is all well and good, however I don't think the "friendship" shown between Hal and Sinestro is so amazing and weighty that it excuses missing the opportunity to use Sinestro as the villain in the first movie. There's just not that much to it.

There are multiple methods that could work for a Green Lantern franchise. But Legion and Hammond, compared to Sinestro, don't work all that well in their present incarnations. They just need more to them.



Yeah I agree....the writers need to add more substance to Hammonds character instead of just having him there as a fill in villian per say.

[Webhead2006]

Hopefully they have in the later drafts, or they can easily just write out the character and save him for second film with sinstro as fully baddy.

[Keyser Soze]

It's precisely BECAUSE Green Lantern (and therefore Sinestro) aren't well known that you can't just throw in Sinestro as the villain of the first film.

To the general filmgoing public, this film will be their introduction of "Green Lantern". So it seems a shame and a waste to make Sinestro the throwaway origin movie bad guy. He'll have no resonance with viewers whatsoever, because like you say, they don't know Sinestro from Adam. It's just "Oh, that's the bad guy for this film, then?"

But if you build Sinestro up as a heroic figure in the first film, by the time the (hypothetical) second film comes around filmgoers WILL know Sinestro, and therefore his fall to villainy WILL carry dramatic heft.

[Katsuro]

To all these people demanding Hammond have more motivation, can I ask what you'd suggest? I keep hearing that people dont like his character, but I'm not seeing too many suggestions for how to improve it.

I really didn't mind the character. He's a lot better developed than Obidiah Stane, for sure. Only thing he needs is an actor of Jeff Bridges quality, and he'll do just fine. Like I said earlier, if anything they should beef up Legion, and make him the main villain. Keep Hammond as he is and he'll work just fine as a secondary villain.

[Jack Ups]

can someone pm the script to me please....cheers

[The Guard]

There's no one way to do things.

Just because these writers couldn't write "one shot villain" Hector Hammond worth a damn (I.E, make him interesting beyond his powers) doesn't mean that Sinestro wouldn't be. There's no law that says a character has to be "saved" to work out well in the long run. Exhibit A: Magneto in the X-Men franchise.

It's precisely BECAUSE Green Lantern (and therefore Sinestro) aren't well known that you can't just throw in Sinestro as the villain of the first film.

Well, of course you can't just "throw" anything into a film. You'd have to carefully craft his introduction and use, but it would work as well as anything else, executed properly. I refuse to believe that these screenwriters, who obviously felt they could make Legion AND Hammond AND Sinestro work, would believe they couldn't create a compelling villain in Sinestro. Saving him for the second film was their choice, not a neccessity.

When I can get the damn thing online...I want you all to read my 2-day GREEN LANTERN script (imperfect as it is), which features both Hal's origin and Sinestro as the villain. And then I want you to tell me that Sinestro somehow "suffers" or wouldn't be a viable "arch villain" because he wasn't saved till the second film.

To the general filmgoing public, this film will be their introduction of "Green Lantern". So it seems a shame and a waste to make Sinestro the throwaway origin movie bad guy. He'll have no resonance with viewers whatsoever, because like you say, they don't know Sinestro from Adam. It's just "Oh, that's the bad guy for this film, then?"

Just like Ra's Al Ghul had no resonance for viewers? Just like The Joker didn't?It's all about the execution. Obviously, if he's to be more than "This film's villain", his motivations need to be built up as such. That's entirely possible.

But if you build Sinestro up as a heroic figure in the first film, by the time the (hypothetical) second film comes around filmgoers WILL know Sinestro, and therefore his fall to villainy WILL carry dramatic heft.

There's no reason you couldn't also build him up as a hero in one film, and have him gradually turn, then become the villain.

Let me also point out...there's nothing so interesting about Sinestro in the Berlanti GL draft that it makes me care about "knowing" him. He was a reckless Green Lantern who was obviously very capable, but nothing spectacular in terms of characterization. He existed to lead the GL Corp and to tell Hal what his ring does, and how it works, etc. Granted, he had some nice moments (the talk about the "green"), but nothing that couldn't have existed in his capacity as Hal's mentor AND villain in a script where he has an entirely different purpose.

To all these people demanding Hammond have more motivation, can I ask what you'd suggest? I keep hearing that people dont like his character, but I'm not seeing too many suggestions for how to improve it.

Well, for starters, if you're going to do the "daddy issue" thing, give him an actual thematically relevant parallell with Hal Jordan and his father. Something concrete that he and Jordan can have between them, not "Hey, I also have a father!" In addition, since his powers are extraterrestrial, as are the GLs, and "aliens" are a big part of this story, extraterrestrial themes could be explored. Don't make him just a coroner, make him something more important that has to do with aliens. His father could still see him as a failure, as wasiting his life, but it would be because he was searching for extraterrestrial life, not because he was just a random loser. And he wouldn't be quite so damn cliche and hollow, because Hammond would have something to DRIVE him that sets him apart. Make him a friend of Alan Scott's, even. Hell, there are a number of things you could do with our first contact with ET life, and his desire to use alien power to alter history, etc, and the idea that he can't control that type of power. I'm not asking for him to be JJ Abrams' Lex Luthor, but maybe something similar.

I really didn't mind the character. He's a lot better developed than Obidiah Stane, for sure.

That's not saying much. At least Obadiah had a slightly interesting motivation/character arc. Granted, he was always going to "turn", but at least his "turn" had some impact. With Hammond, he's just this weasel, you know he's a weasel, and you're waiting for the other shoe to drop. And when he does become evil, it's just evil for the sake of it. Boring. Thank goodness he has powers.

[solidsnake86]

Obviously they chose not to use sinestro as the villain and its too late to be making massive changes so really its a moot point. I guess we can all agree that Hammond needs some fleshing out and that is something rewrites can solve. Besides, when was this first draft handed in?

[AnorexicBatman]

PM me the script please!!

[Dark Knight]

I'm glad Sinestro is being saved as the main baddie for the sequel. However, perhaps they should use an ending that hints he will be the baddie in the next film in the end?

[The Guard]

Nah...Sinestro's cleverly written childish outbursts more than accomplish that.

:oldrazz:

[protocida]

What would you like to see in the new draft of the Script, even it it's unlikeable that it will happen?

I'll post my full list later on, but, for start, i'd like Hal's mom death to be adressed. I tought her death was such a powerful moment from the comics that it should be translated to the silver screen.

For those who don't know, here's what happens:


Hal's mom never liked that her husband was a pilot. She always tought it was something dangerous. That's why neither her nor Jim or Jack, Hal's brothers, go the Martin's demonstration, where he dies. She makes Hal swear he'll never become a pilot, which was his dream, so, he runs away when he's 18 and joins Air Force. Later on, Hal discovers thanks to his brother Jim that their mother is sick and will die soon. He wants to see her, but she says she'll only see him when he's no longer a pilot, and his overprotective brother Jack makes sure that Hal can't see her before that.

Hal steals a jet to have one last ride before being suspended for stealing it, but his superior won't suspend him, so, Hal punches him and it's expelled. He is no longer a pilot. When he goes see his mother, he discovers she died the previous day, and is left without nothing.

[Changeling]

Damn. Thats pretty heavy.

[protocida]

Green Lantern's third draft is 127 pages, in oposition to the first draft, that had only 107 pages. According to Latino Review's El Mayimbe, the third draft is the final Script that's going to be filmed.

Sounds good. :woot:

[AnorexicBatman]

Has Tom's character been written out?
I only read the first draft and I know I dislike him!

Hal: I have discovered the greatest power in the universe... but at what cost? Farewell, Abin Sur... Fly true...Fly...

Tom: OMG! LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! I BEAT HALO 3!!! OMG!!! I CAN HAS SPACESHIPZ!!!!

Nerds aren't like that. I'm a Nerd! Hell Tom should be far more serious!

[I Am The Knight]

I'm with you. I don't want Tom to be written out, though; I want him to be written differently.

[DarkSuperman]

I'm with you. I don't want Tom to be written out, though; I want him to be written differently.

I agree totally. He could be a tad more serious.

[AnorexicBatman]

Tom could be a bit more Alfred-ish
Hal's consciousness...

EDIT:

I also noticed Hal's much more depressed than Bruce
All those nasty flashbacks...
No wonder GL and Bats are friends (comics verse)

[cryptic name]

i really enjoyed reading this. with a few minor tweeks it could be a great GL flick. i really enjoyed the handling of Sinestro, establishing him as a great, veteran green lantern and just barely hinting at the future promise of a yellow power ring. the action and ring constructs will be amazing to see, the carol ferris rescue, i thought, was great.

[CrimsonMist]

could someone please send me this script? I'd really appreciate it.:D

[cryptic name]

Agreed. The script could use 15-20 pages more, and Hammond's motivations are absurdly cliche, the "father/son" paralell between Hal/Hammond is forced as hell, and just not that interesting. Hammond has got about a high school level of drama to him. The script's biggest weakness is that both it's villains are apparently too weak as concepts to work alone. Even together, they're not that impressive, beyond the obvious visual potential.

I strongly believe that Sinestro is the way to go, even as a pseudo-villain. He would be a fantastic, Magneto-level villain, and a real threat to boot. But it might drive up the price of the movie, so...

i really think Sinestro as a villain should be saved for the next film, i loved how he was used in this script, and it will add a lot of gravity when Hal has to bring him down in the future. and i think hammond has potential, the idea of all this power being dropped in the lap of this disgusting, petty, little s**t is one that i find really interesting for a villain. and legion/parallax just seems like it will be so amazingly cool to see.

[haephestus]

Would someone please PM me the script.

Many thanks in advance.

Cheers.

[protocida]

Tom can't be written out. He's Hal's best friend and confident. They could, however, make him more serious. He can still be the comic relieve, like he was in the Comics, but not like Anthony Anderson's character in Transformers.

And it would't hurt to change him back to a mechanic at Ferris Aircraft. :woot:

[Webhead2006]

yea and who knows what has changed since the first draft and the rewrites they have done.

[REDophile]

Oh yeah they might have even taken the Clark Kent cameo out....who knows.

[Octoberist]

they probably will take that out unless they have a gameplan for Superman later down the line. There are already references to Gotham City and Star City, so that's fine enough for me.

[Webhead2006]

yea i say drop the kent cameo if by the time they are ready to film if they have the whole next superman film set to go. Or like i and others said before just either show empty clark kent desk at the planet, or we see a body sitting at clark kent desk but face is covered by a planet news paper and we dont see his face. i said go with option two so we can still have it and all we would see is clark's hand, and his lower body.

[Kevin Smith]

Tom can't be written out. He's Hal's best friend and confident. They could, however, make him more serious. He can still be the comic relieve, like he was in the Comics, but not like Anthony Anderson's character in Transformers.

And it would't hurt to change him back to a mechanic at Ferris Aircraft. :woot:

Although I wish he were a mechanic, I actually liked how Tom was written in the script.

[Webhead2006]

what was he in the script i only read a few pages of the leaked first draft and havent gotten around to reading the rest of the script yet.

[The Guard]

He was the "cool geek friend".

It made little sense, and was nothing like the Tom Kalmaku of the comics.

[Webhead2006]

thanks the guard, maybe they fixed the character up in the future rewrites they did.

[lixdexia]

could someone please pm this to me? thanks in advance :)

[lixdexia]

my problems with the script were the excessive flashbacks and all the talk about everyone's dad (i think the opening and hal's attachment to his jacket are enough to sell that one) and the way it went back and forth between the hammond and legion without really connecting the 2. i thought hammond was portrayed well enough, but the hal's fight with legion broke up his story which makes it less effective imo. and yeah, like everyone has said, maybe don't make tom quite so nerdy

[Webhead2006]

yea i myself havent read the full script yet havent had the time. Only read up to page 20. But we do know it has gone through atless 3 rewrites since the first draft was leaked on the web. So if the studio/writers been checking the web they can see what us fans think wasnt that great. Or by themselfs see this or that doesnt work right and have fixed, changed, or droped things.

[Octoberist]

I think that Hal's dialog's needs to change. I can't see a 27 year old dude say "That SO not cool". There must be a way to show off his youth without making him sound like a teenager; perhaps make him more witty.

[Webhead2006]

That likely was changed/edited in the rewrites.

[04nbod]

Oh yeah they might have even taken the Clark Kent cameo out....who knows.

I'd love if they replaced that with a Kyle Rayner cameo. Superman just doens't have a place in this movie especially when its own future is so up in the air.

The Alan Scott part though must be kept, absolutely! just like if they do a flash movie Jay must have a part, perhaps as a mentor to Barry or Wally

[dnno1]

But that would not be consistent with the source material. I the past Clark Kent was considered to be a candidate by the Guardians of the Universe (in a Superman title). The selection of Kyle came some time after Hal. Having a Superman reference in the picture also establishes a continuity between the two universes, which is the approach that Marvel has already taken.

[lixdexia]

But that would not be consistent with the source material. I the past Clark Kent was considered to be a candidate by the Guardians of the Universe (in a Superman title). The selection of Kyle came some time after Hal. Having a Superman reference in the picture also establishes a continuity between the two universes, which is the approach that Marvel has already taken.
which we've seen may not necessarily be the smartest of moves with nick fury now needing a recasting. the ring flying by th daily planet would be enough for most folks to get the reference, no need to actually put clark in it

[dnno1]

which we've seen may not necessarily be the smartest of moves with nick fury now needing a recasting. the ring flying by th daily planet would be enough for most folks to get the reference, no need to actually put clark in it

The fury issue had nothing to do with source material. It was an issue over money. According to an LA Times report (http://www.accesshollywood.com/samuel-l-jackson-may-not-return-to-marvel_article_13055?__source=rss%7Clatest_news), Marvel says that he is still on for the role.

[Webhead2006]

i hope so it would really suck if he walked just over money. though i know marvel probably wants to spend their money wisely like any company during this crummy economic times we are in.

[Cth]

Thanks!

[Webhead2006]

just sent you the link, hope you enjoy it. Remember its just the first draft of the script and their has been a few rewrites since then.

[Lane & Kent]

could someone please send me this script?

[echostation]

allah hu akbar they make a great Lantern Green film....

[lixdexia]

allah hu akbar they make a great Lantern Green film....
...it's a trap!!!?sorry, i couldn't help myself

[symbiote008]

did anybody else think the second half of the script was really rushed? it felt like they were trying to cram way too much in there. with Oa, Hammond, AND Legion, I feel like they didn't have enough time to give each thing justice. especially Oa.

[lixdexia]

did anybody else think the second half of the script was really rushed? it felt like they were trying to cram way too much in there. with Oa, Hammond, AND Legion, I feel like they didn't have enough time to give each thing justice. especially Oa.
yes, very much so.it feels like a different movie when he returns to oa for a bit and then it just jumps right back into the regular story. i'm all for leaving legion out of the movie after hammond makes the change

[Webhead2006]

that was likely one of the many things that probably got fixed up with the rewrites hopefully.

[Lane & Kent]

Will someone PM me the script Thanks.

[Keyser Soze]

Does the passing of scripts come under this new "Pirating of Intellectual Property" rule the mods have just stickied?

[Webhead2006]

hmm good qustion. Can any mods shad some light to that. Thanks for that heads up man.

[protocida]

I think the Script is well settled. I just fear that put Legion's fight before Hector Hammond's fight will make the finale weaker. After all, it's difficult to top a giant space monster battling 3600 aliens with power rings in a Aquamarine planet.

[Octoberist]

i think Hector needs to be fleshed out more.

[I Am The Knight]

It's obvious we need a leak of the latest version of the script.

[Webhead2006]

yea that would be great to see so we can see if they fixed/changed things from the first draft that we think wasnt that good.

[DarkSuperman]

I just really want this movie to be made! I wanna see Sinestro and Hal ring slinging side by side, with Sinestro swinging his scimitar and Hal his Katana!

The Day this movie comes out will truly be the "Brightest Day" :gl:

[Lobo]

Ok here's the thing, in the future for script leaks, don't acknowledge you have it, or are passing it around. However since this one has been out awhile, if you have it, share it with whom you like privately. In the future if you have a script and want to share, don't make posts about it.

[Webhead2006]

yea we will just have to find it other ways if there is any more future leaks.

[Changeling]

-edit-

[Great1]

ask privately.

[protocida]

Edit your post. Quick.

[Lobo]

I edited it.

[protocida]

Thanks, Lobo.

[dnno1]

Could you imagine Hector Hammond doing something like this in the film:

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Talk about "Starwars: The Force Unleased"!

[dnno1]

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Imagine this fight scene with a powering generated boxing glove. That clip and the one in the previous post were from the new film out titled "Push" BTW.

[protocida]

Nice scenes!

[Lobo]

You know, based on his age in the script, and what we believe WB is looking for, I could actually see Chris Evans as Hal.

[protocida]

Me too. But i think he's better as Human Torch. My vote still goes to Sam Worthington.

[Lobo]

We don't if he's better as Torch than he would be as Hal, as we've not seen it to compare. The F4 franchise is dead anyway. I still haven't seen Worthington in anything, I'll make a judgment about him after Salvation.

[protocida]

He doesn't look like a serious guy, like Hal is. But i think he'd be a good Guy Gardner.

[I Am The Knight]

Um, Hal is hardly a serious guy in the script :huh:

[protocida]

In the beggining, then, he get's serious.

[I Am The Knight]

Edit your post, dude. You are not allowed to ask for the script publicly but you can PM someone about it.

[TheVileOne]

My problem is that I hate Chris Evans, and I hate his face.

[protocida]

You hate everything.

[TheVileOne]

No I don't. Just another BS argument people like you spew against me.

In another forum, another poster like you says I love everything about Marvel and they can do no wrong in my eyes.

[dnno1]

This is supposed to be about the script discussion. Let's take that Chris Evans suggestion to the casting thread.

[The Major]

He doesn't look like a serious guy, like Hal is. But i think he'd be a good Guy Gardner.
Evans has the range for both. He acted very well as a serious character in Sunshine.

[redbonius]

:nono:

[Octoberist]

No I don't. Just another BS argument people like you spew against me.

In another forum, another poster like you says I love everything about Marvel and they can do no wrong in my eyes.

You're just a passionate about film, I suppose. You remind me of The Guard, in that light.

[SuperDaniel]

edited. Just one word: AWESOME! Imagine seeing OA and those breathtaking views of Earth on screen?

I thought the script was damn good!

[Lobo]

Read the announcement at the top of every forum, asking is prohibited, and a week off, that;s why I deleted your post.

[Steelsheen]

SuperDaniel, edit your post. asking for scripts aint allowed

[Kahoot]

Read the announcement at the top of every forum, asking is prohibited, and a week off, that;s why I deleted your post.
I find that funny...

Red = Mod
Therefor is a mod and asked... hippie_hunter
you wouldn´t mind sending me the link per private message, would you?
I would appreciate the same.
How the rules change.

[Steelsheen]

I find that funny...

Red = Mod
Therefor is a mod and asked... hippie_hunter
[COLOR="Red"]
How the rules change.

that was before the rule went into effect, if you check the post dates and the date the rule was announced.

[I Am The Knight]

You hate everything.

You love everything.

[Keyser Soze]

I find that funny...

Red = Mod
Therefor is a mod and asked... hippie_hunter
[COLOR="Red"]
How the rules change.

Dude, Lobo could have just banned your ass for a week. He's trying to be decent by giving you a warning. The least you could do is show some gratitude and follow his advice, rather than being a dick about it.

EDIT: Just realised that the person asking and the person mod-baiting aren't one and the same. So never mind the whole "gratitude" part. Though it does make the whole "being a dick" part even more baffling.

[Kahoot]

that was before the rule went into effect, if you check the post dates and the date the rule was announced.
That's way I said, "How the rules change." :whatever:

[Webhead2006]

shh doesnt want folks passing illegal copies of copyrighted materials any more. My guess shh didnt want to get into any problems with studios and all that.

[Lobo]

shh doesnt want folks passing illegal copies of copyrighted materials any more. My guess shh didnt want to get into any problems with studios and all that.

Exactly, and this doesn't just go for scripts, but for comics, and other media as well. It was a decision of the boss.

Kahoot is trying to make it look like we decided to change the rules soon after Hippie asked, which is not the case.

[Webhead2006]

yea its been the new rule for what now like two weeks.

[Kahoot]

Exactly, and this doesn't just go for scripts, but for comics, and other media as well. It was a decision of the boss.

Kahoot is trying to make it look like we decided to change the rules soon after Hippie asked, which is not the case.
I never said anothing about it being soon after Hippie asked...

I was just saying it's always been frowned at and and yet even mods did it and now it's a hard solid rule.

[Keyser Soze]

I never said anothing about it being soon after Hippie asked...

I was just saying it's always been frowned at and and yet even mods did it and now it's a hard solid rule.

I don't see what point or agenda you're trying to make out of it. Posters and some mods did it when there was no rule against it, and then they stopped when there was a rule against it... :huh: