The DCU Animation Thread.

[SoulManX]

I would've preferred Kyle, and I would've liked to see an Alan Scott episode when they switched to JLU and there were several Justice Society members in their ranks. But I think the show did an excellent job with John, so I can't complain.

I remember reading somewhere that JL and JSA were to team in like a 2 part ep:o

[RogueDK]

It took just fine. The creators of JL used John for more diversity, just like they used Hawkgirl instead of Aquaman for more diversity.


I thought we were talking about why there was less to no Hal as opposed to Kyle...

How'd it get on John Stewart? :huh:

I already knew that Stewart was Timm's favorite GL but they robbed Jordan's orgin in STAS and gave it to Kyle because they were trying to sell this guy to fans.

Parrallax was still fresh in people's minds.

And let me rephrase that one, glaring bit...IT DIDN'T TAKE WITH ME. Although I'm not alone on that.

[TheCorpulent1]

I was always disappointed that Kyle got Hal's origin. I like his own origin much more.

[Anubis]

Where he's taking a piss in the alley behind some bar and some little blue dude walks up to him and says "Eh, you'll do."?

[RogueDK]

I was always disappointed that Kyle got Hal's origin. I like his own origin much more.
Me too. :csad:

I never fully accepted Rayner since I grew up with Jordan & Stewart.

[TheCorpulent1]

Where he's taking a piss in the alley behind some bar and some little blue dude walks up to him and says "Eh, you'll do."?
Yeah. I like the fact that he wasn't automatically ordained worthy. He had to prove himself.

[SoulManX]

Where he's taking a piss in the alley behind some bar and some little blue dude walks up to him and says "Eh, you'll do."?

LOL:hehe:

[Anubis]

Well, that's the way it went down. :o

[SoulManX]

Well, that's the way it went down. :o

I know its still funny as hell:woot:

[SoulManX]

So I made this thread mostly for the Timmverse... but do you think we should talk about the other DC animations from HB, Ruby-Spears, and Filmation?

[Anubis]

I hate the Superfriends.

[TheCorpulent1]

I do, too.

[SoulManX]

Really? I mean for what they are its not that bad:o
I to be honest I like the Wonder Twins...more than Wonderdog, Marvin and Wendy:o

[TheCorpulent1]

I hate the Wonder Twins, Wonder Dog, Marvin, Wendy, and everything else associated with the Superfriends. I hate the Hall of Justice, too. Most of all, I hate what the Superfriends did to Aquaman. It poisoned several generations with a presentation of Aquaman as a total moron whose only powers are literally riding around on seahorses and talking to stupid goddamn fish. Aquaman can break the sound barrier swimming under his own power and he commands all marine life and has some general telepathy on top of it, plus he can lift a goddamn city block underwater. :cmad:

[Anubis]

Or hold up a goddamn skyscraper, run on land at nearly 200 mph.

Aquaman got f**ked over big time. So much so that the character still hasn't recovered from to this day.

[BLACKVULCAN]

I hate the Wonder Twins, Wonder Dog, Marvin, Wendy, and everything else associated with the Superfriends. I hate the Hall of Justice, too. Most of all, I hate what the Superfriends did to Aquaman. It poisoned several generations with a presentation of Aquaman as a total moron whose only powers are literally riding around on seahorses and talking to stupid goddamn fish. Aquaman can break the sound barrier swimming under his own power and he commands all marine life and has some general telepathy on top of it, plus he can lift a goddamn city block underwater. :cmad:
i agree with most of that( the hall of justice was kinda cool till the legion of Doom headquarters came along) The wonder twins, Marvin and Wendy all sucked!( sorry Soul X).their main purpose was to play hostage each week. I especially agree with the Aquaman part. That show was extremely determential to him as a character.i didn't hate Superfriends though.Hell that's where my code name came from.It was the 1st time i saw an animated Flash ,Plastic Man, and Green Arrow.it was sorta that "it's bad it's good" and for nostalgia it was pretty cool for what it was.

[TheCorpulent1]

All it was to me is mediocre.

[Anubis]

it was sorta that "it's bad it's good" and for nostalgia it was pretty cool for what it was.

No it wasn't.

[cerealkiller182]

I liked the ethnic superfriends, especially the JLU updates. I thought they were cool. I wouldnt mind seeing them come into continuity except for the Wonder Twins and Black Vulcan being too much like Black Lightning, but Apache Chief/Longshadow and Samurai/Wind Dragon were cool.

[TheCorpulent1]

Apache Chief already came into continuity in the form of Manitou Raven during Joe Kelly's JLA run.

[Anubis]

And he was kinda awesome, and now he's very dead. :(

[cerealkiller182]

But wasnt the only similiarities the spell word Inuckchuck and being Native American

[Anubis]

And being an Apache.

[TheCorpulent1]

He could probably use a spell to grow really big, too. Is size-changing really that important an element of Apache Chief's character? I think Raven represented the character quite well and even improved on him, even if he wasn't a direct 1:1 transfer.

Shame that he died, but his wife took up the Manitou title in his place and kicked some ass. Then she sort of disappeared and was never heard from again. :(

[Anubis]

It's for the best. She ended up f**king Green Arrow. Imagine how much worse they could have done with here before she was taken by the Limbo baby.

[RogueDK]

Say what you will about Superfriends but you all seem to forget that this incarnation of the Justice League was catered for its time. Do you really believe that censors would've allowed a more adult-natured subtext in a time where moral stipulations were even put on the comic books courtesy of the Comics Code in that decade? Over time, policing has relaxed but you still have to draw a line in the sand when it comes to moral fortitude.

I grew up LOVING (damn right I said it) SF for what it brought to the table, which is my love for the comics genre. Yes, nowadays, it's terribly, terribly "dated" but tothrow sh$t at it because of whatever reason isn't really fair. Marvel's cartoons around that time were hardly Emmy material themselves... I should know because I was in front of the tube watching them every Saturday. I loved those too.

As for Aquaman, his fate was sealed with those stupid cartoon shorts from the 60s- not Superfriends. WTF was up with that damn seal as a sidekick? Even watching the reruns as a child, I thought that it was silly but it was the times. Timm brought the character a bit of prominence during his run but even he had to move to the beat of a larger drum...his bosses. Be glad for that until someone else comes along and gives him more "sack".

In Batman: B&B, Arthur looks like a friggin porn star. Not the Aquaman I know...

[cerealkiller182]

And being an Apache.

Mantiou is an Algonquin word

He could probably use a spell to grow really big, too. Is size-changing really that important an element of Apache Chief's character? I think Raven represented the character quite well and even improved on him, even if he wasn't a direct 1:1 transfer.

Shame that he died, but his wife took up the Manitou title in his place and kicked some ass. Then she sort of disappeared and was never heard from again. :(

Well doesnt Inuckchuk mean "big" or "grow"?

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know.

Apparently, it's a big stone monument (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inukchuk) built by tribes in the arctic regions.

[SoulManX]

Say what you will about Superfriends but you all seem to forget that this incarnation of the Justice League was catered for its time. Do you really believe that censors would've allowed a more adult-natured subtext in a time where moral stipulations were even put on the comic books courtesy of the Comics Code in that decade? Over time, policing has relaxed but you still have to draw a line in the sand when it comes to moral fortitude.

I grew up LOVING (damn right I said it) SF for what it brought to the table, which is my love for the comics genre. Yes, nowadays, it's terribly, terribly "dated" but tothrow sh$t at it because of whatever reason isn't really fair. Marvel's cartoons around that time were hardly Emmy material themselves... I should know because I was in front of the tube watching them every Saturday. I loved those too.

As for Aquaman, his fate was sealed with those stupid cartoon shorts from the 60s- not Superfriends. WTF was up with that damn seal as a sidekick? Even watching the reruns as a child, I thought that it was silly but it was the times. Timm brought the character a bit of prominence during his run but even he had to move to the beat of a larger drum...his bosses. Be glad for that until someone else comes along and gives him more "sack".

In Batman: B&B, Arthur looks like a friggin porn star. Not the Aquaman I know...

Thank you Rogue!!!

[SoulManX]

Ok what about the Leigon of Doom and Darkseid on the Superpowers Show? With the great Adam West doing Batman again for what they were back then I still love them.

[RogueDK]

Ok what about the Leigon of Doom and Darkseid on the Superpowers Show? With the great Adam West doing Batman again for what they were back then I still love them.
More heart was put in those corny cartoons than most of the half-a#### stuff we get today with the lazy animation. :cmad:

[BLACKVULCAN]

No it wasn't.
man! Great death god dont you know that back in the day you would have been jonesing for anything superhero related other than smurfs?see you got a variety to choose from now. back in the day there were only 3 channels to choose from.i wanted anything to take me away from the estrogen filled strawberry shortcake or the drug induced Scooby doo haze. if it wasnt for Superfriends and it's kid friendly yet violent & testosterone superhero content i might have grew up playing with *Barbie's malibu dream house.

* note black vulcan doesnt discrimate against those who do play with Barbie's malibu dream house.Only he doesnt. Hehe

[RogueDK]

back in the day there were only 3 channels to choose from.


3 channels and...PBS. :woot:

In my case, on a crappy b&w 13 inch tv that I had to share with my older brother.

[Anubis]

Mantiou is an Algonquin word





Don't look at me, I didn't name him. He still comes from the tribe that would one day become known as the Apache.

[SoulManX]

3 channels and...PBS. :woot:

In my case, on a crappy b&w 13 inch tv that I had to share with my older brother.

Ah he good old days...Ruby-Spears Superman wasn't a bad show either its a shame it hasn't gotten a dvd collection yet:csad:

[Anubis]

man! Great death god dont you know that back in the day you would have been jonesing for anything superhero related other than smurfs?see you got a variety to choose from now. back in the day there were only 3 channels to choose from.i wanted anything to take me away from the estrogen filled strawberry shortcake or the drug induced Scooby doo haze. if it wasnt for Superfriends and it's kid friendly yet violent & testosterone superhero content i might have grew up playing with *Barbie's malibu dream house.

* note black vulcan doesnt discrimate against those who do play with Barbie's malibu dream house.Only he doesnt. Hehe

Well i'm lucky enough to have grown up during a time of great cartoons. Transformers, GI Joe, He Man, Robotech reruns, Thunder Cats, Silverhawks, Spidey and his Amazing Friends, etc, etc. Hell, I knew there was a huge difference in quality even back then from Watching reruns of the Superfriends and the Super Powers team. And that stuff I named is crap when you try to watch it today, so imagine how bad the Superfriends is?

[RogueDK]

Ah he good old days...Ruby-Spears Superman wasn't a bad show either its a shame it hasn't gotten a dvd collection yet:csad:
That was a great show. Even my own little sister who hated comics but loved to tune into that show every Saturday morning.

It should be included in some future dvd packet.

[TheCorpulent1]

Ruby-Spears Supes ain't got nothin' on the old Fleischer cartoons. Outside of the Timmverse Superman series, those are basically the only Superman cartoons I like.

[RogueDK]

Well i'm lucky enough to have grown up during a time of great cartoons. Transformers, GI Joe, He Man, Robotech reruns, Thunder Cats, Silverhawks, Spidey and his Amazing Friends, etc, etc. Hell, I knew there was a huge difference in quality even back then from Watching reruns of the Superfriends and the Super Powers team. And that stuff I named is crap when you try to watch it today, so imagine how bad the Superfriends is?
No you didn't just say that Thunder Cats looks like crap today.

And I'll watch ancient SF cartoons non stop over Pucca, Chaotic & SpongeBob. :cmad:


Ruby-Spears Supes ain't got nothin' on the old Fleischer cartoons. Outside of the Timmverse Superman series, those are basically the only Superman cartoons I like.


True. I'll give you that. But it doesn't make the Spears series bad either.

[BLACKVULCAN]

And that stuff I named is crap when you try to watch it today, so imagine how bad the Superfriends is?
hehe i told you it was bad but when you aint got nothing else. it's good! see i said "it was so bad it was good." you should have seen *"the Mighty Man and Yuk show" That made Superfriends looked like a Shakespearian play.

*note-Black vulcan respects those who liked the Mighty Man and Yuk show, but it was really really bad.

Ohhhh and Fleisher's Supermans are the *&^%#@*.nothing beats those Mo's

[SoulManX]

Ruby-Spears Supes ain't got nothin' on the old Fleischer cartoons. Outside of the Timmverse Superman series, those are basically the only Superman cartoons I like.

True but thats more movie animation compare to Saturday morning. Though I wonder what an JSA under Fleischer would have been like?

[RogueDK]

you should have seen *"the Mighty Man and Yuk show"


What in the hell is that? :huh:

That one escapes me.

[Anubis]

No you didn't just say that Thunder Cats looks like crap today.

And I'll watch ancient SF cartoons non stop over Pucca, Chaotic & SpongeBob.



First of all, there's a difference in style. You wouldn't compare say, the animation from the Storkes to say, the animation from Voltron. Two completely different animals. Secondly, art in and of itself is subjective. You prefer a more realistic style, as opposed to an animated style, which is why the old Transformers cartoons would look better to you than the new one. That's a personal choice.

Now for what I meant: I didn't say they LOOKED like crap, I said they ARE Crap by today's standards. People tend to think that cartoons today have been dumbed down for the kiddies, but the truth is, most of the stuff we used to watch had atrocious writing. I mean, have you seen an episode of Thundercats recently? It makes Teen Titans look like freaking Shakespeare. That's not opinion, that's fact.

[BLACKVULCAN]

What in the hell is that? :huh:

That one escapes me.
Bro it was a action comedy one. where this guy was a normal guy with the ugliest dog in the world. The dog had a doghouse on his head with any device he wanted to pull out of it.the dog would shrink the guy down to Mighty Man who was tiny ,but super strong and could fly. Most of the time when MM was in trouble yuk would take his dog house off and usually scare the villain into giving himself up. so as not to see yuk's face again. It was god awful, but i freakin watched it. no &%$#* wonder why my brain is fried now,watching stuff like that. hehe

[RogueDK]

First of all, there's a difference in style. You wouldn't compare say, the animation from the Storkes to say, the animation from Voltron. Two completely different animals. Secondly, art in and of itself is subjective. You prefer a more realistic style, as opposed to an animated style, which is why the old Transformers cartoons would look better to you than the new one. That's a personal choice.

What i was talking about this, I didn't say they looked like crap, I said they are Crap by today's standards. People tend to think that cartoons today have been dumbed down for the kiddies, but the truth is, most of the stuff we used to watch had atrocious writing. I mean, have you seen an episode of Thundercats recently? It makes Teen Titans look like freaking Shakespeare. That's not opinion, that's fact.

I'll give you that. The writing was corny but that was the times then. If those styles could somehow be derived for today's audiences with the quality writing that's out there today, you'd have the best of both worlds.

Btw, I saw the new Transformers cartoon for the 1st time last weekend and it SUCKS. :csad:



Bro it was a action comedy one. where this guy was a normal guy with the ugliest dog in the world. The dog had a doghouse on his head with any device he wanted to pull out of it.the dog would shrink the guy down to Mighty Man who was tiny ,but super strong and could fly. Most of the time when MM was in trouble yuk would take his dog house off and usually scare the villain into giving himself up. so as not to see yuk's face again. It was god awful, but i freakin watched it. no &%$#* wonder why my brain is fried now,watching stuff like that. hehe


I swear I've never heardof this one. Sounds like a cool enough concept though. lol

[Anubis]

And yet, when the kiddies of today get to be our age and start waxing poetic about how good the cartoons of old are compared to the cartoons of the present, that Transformers might end up being brought up. Along with everything else that we'd consider crap. It sucks getting old. Your wang don't work without pills, you forget stuff, and everything you ever loved is crap.

[RogueDK]

Your wang don't work without pills, you forget stuff, and everything you ever loved is crap.


Well for me, two outta three ain't bad. :woot:

[Anubis]

Give it time old folks. Give it time. :o :)

[BLACKVULCAN]

Your wang don't work without pills, you forget stuff, and everything you ever loved is crap.
my wang chung works quite fine thank you very much. you just have to work it everyday.I just had to start forgetting comic book issue number when i talked to non geek girls for that to happen.thats where forgetting aint a bad thing, and it's mostly" Everyone" that i ever loved is crap. She took all my money in the divorce Lousy *&^$#!.again that's where forgetting stuff aint a bad thing.hehe

[SoulManX]

And yet, when the kiddies of today get to be our age and start waxing poetic about how good the cartoons of old are compared to the cartoons of the present, that Transformers might end up being brought up. Along with everything else that we'd consider crap. It sucks getting old. Your wang don't work without pills, you forget stuff, and everything you ever loved is crap.

wow just wow:csad:

[Anubis]

Well, with any luck, we'll all die before it gets that bad. :up:

[BLACKVULCAN]

yeah i wanna go with 2 supermodels dressed as the black cat and catwoman with a gigantic bowl of milk as some dude as Magneto impales me with wolverine claws right as i release the all spark!..... told you those 70's cartoons fired my brain hehe

[SoulManX]

yeah i wanna go with 2 supermodels dressed as the black cat and catwoman with a gigantic bowl of milk as some dude as Magneto impales me with wolverine claws right as i release the all spark!..... told you those 70's cartoons fired my brain hehe

.....

[BLACKVULCAN]

left you speechless huh soul x
dont worry i do that alot to people.:cwink:

[Dr. Fate]

It's been a long time since I actually watched Super Friends all the way through, not since I picked up the Galactic Guardians DVD for collector purposes. GG had a pretty cool intro. Listening to the late Danny Dark do Superman's voice, I couldn't help thinking that he sounded like Principal Skinner from the Simpsons.

You know what's creepy though? Danny Dark died in 2004, the same year movie Superman & movie Jor-El Christopher Reeve & Marlon Brando died.

Can you imagine how different Super Friends might have been if they'd featured the Martian Manhunter instead of Aquaman? The only guy I can think of who could have done a good Martian Manhunter voice is Peter Cullen, Optimus Prime of TRANSFORMERS, but I don't know if Cullen would have been availabe to them in the 1960s/1970s.

I've only seen a few clips of the Ruby-Spears Superman, namely the intro and a chunk of an episode that guest starred Wonder Woman. Looked pretty decent. Ruby-Spear's Superman looked like he could have punched a hole in the DCAU Superman's chest. Beau Weaver voiced Superman here and later on he voiced Mr. Fantastic/Reed Richards for the 1994-1996 Fantastic Four cartoon.

I wonder if we'll ever get a solo Wonder Woman animated series (yes I know there's a DTV coming).

I wasn't trying to start a fight with the Parallax question, I just wanted to see if anyone else would have supported seeing it in the DCAU. I try not to play favorites with the GLs, I believe in the old saying "All Green Lanterns Are Created Equal". I didn't know John Stewart was Timm's favorite GL. I loved his "We're probably just in another dimension" line from Kid's Stuff. The casual just-another-day-at-the-office delivery was pure gold.

[TheCorpulent1]

I believe all Green Lanterns are created equally inferior to Alan Scott. :)

[RogueDK]

Alan Scott is cool with that Dracula cape and all. The DCAU needs to do a feature on him and the Golden Age Flash Jay Garrick. :word:

[Dr. Fate]

Alan Scott is cool with that Dracula cape and all. The DCAU needs to do a feature on him and the Golden Age Flash Jay Garrick. :word:
Damn straight! Give them a DTV! Better yet, give the JSA its own DTV/series.

[TheCorpulent1]

Alan Scott is cool with that Dracula cape and all. The DCAU needs to do a feature on him and the Golden Age Flash Jay Garrick. :word:
Throw in the Golden Age Wildcat and it'd be awesome. They're basically the JSA's trinity. :up:

[RogueDK]

Throw in the Golden Age Wildcat and it'd be awesome. They're basically the JSA's trinity. :up:
Man, how could I have forgotten Wildcat? Of course. :word:

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm glad they translated the fatherly relationship he has with Black Canary into JLU. That episode with the underground fighting ring was great. :up:

[RogueDK]

I'm glad they translated the fatherly relationship he has with Black Canary into JLU. That episode with the underground fighting ring was great. :up:

It was top notch. Dennis Farina was the perfect voice for his character.

[SoulManX]

I'm glad they translated the fatherly relationship he has with Black Canary into JLU. That episode with the underground fighting ring was great. :up:

Watching it now:yay:

[SoulManX]

BC is sooooooo hot:wow:

[Abaddon]

I thought Morena Baccarin's voice was better suited for Huntress.

[Hush]

The fights in that episode are INSANE!

[SoulManX]

Huntress is such a naughty girl:woot:

[TheCorpulent1]

Question's a lucky man. :up:

[RogueDK]

The Question deserves his own animated series in some form or another. Put the emphasis on good writing and it could be a sleeper hit.

[union_jak]

If I was making a Birds of Prey cartoon like I mentioned on the previous page, I'd make the Question a regular.

I just watched the final five episodes of season 1 of JLU, forgot how much involved Huntress was at that point. Also, was Galatea really dead at the end, or just a little fried? She was still making a noise and twitching as the camera panned across.

[TheCorpulent1]

The Question deserves his own animated series in some form or another. Put the emphasis on good writing and it could be a sleeper hit.
The strangest thing to me about the Question on JLU is that he was such a cool character there that it must have generated a lot of interest in him. But instead of actually doing anything with the character to capitalize on that interest, they killed him off in 52 and replaced him with a character pretty much no one ever wanted to see become a superhero. :o

[SoulManX]

If I was making a Birds of Prey cartoon like I mentioned on the previous page, I'd make the Question a regular.

I just watched the final five episodes of season 1 of JLU, forgot how much involved Huntress was at that point. Also, was Galatea really dead at the end, or just a little fried? She was still making a noise and twitching as the camera panned across.

Dead as a door nail I believe:o

[SoulManX]

The strangest thing to me about the Question on JLU is that he was such a cool character there that it must have generated a lot of interest in him. But instead of actually doing anything with the character to capitalize on that interest, they killed him off in 52 and replaced him with a character pretty much no one ever wanted to see become a superhero. :o

One of Dan the man great ideas:o

[TheCorpulent1]

I think it was Greg Rucka's idea, actually, which makes it even worse because he's usually really good.

[RogueDK]

I had heard that Question was killed off in 52 but I never cared to read that particular magazine. It ticks me off just knowing he's dead as it is. :cmad:

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah. Cancer.

[SoulManX]

Yeah. Cancer.

Wow that sucks...which brings up this question.

Does the Timmverse plan better than what other EIC at DC have done:huh:

[Dr. Fate]

So I heard a rumor that Adam Baldwin, who voiced Superman in the DOOMSDAY DTV, was the original choice to do Superman's voice on the solo series back in 1996, but he wasn't available, so it went to Tim Daly instead. Anyone else hear that one?

[SoulManX]

So I heard a rumor that Adam Baldwin, who voiced Superman in the DOOMSDAY DTV, was the original choice to do Superman's voice on the solo series back in 1996, but he wasn't available, so it went to Tim Daly instead. Anyone else hear that one?

Adam is more suited for Hal Jordon imho:o

[SoulManX]

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[RogueDK]

Adam is more suited for Hal Jordon imho:o
Yes. Daly just sounds like Superman; there's hardly a substitute.

[cerealkiller182]

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I wish we could have seen more from people like Blue Devil, Dr. Mid-Nite, Obsidian, and Ray

I was surprised how often they used Vigilante. I think hes a fun character and was used really well.

[RogueDK]

Anyone notice how Vigilante never shot anyone yet he blasted away endlessly in every episode that he was in? But when he shot his own motorcycle to blow it up against the fake Hulk general he was on target? My son used to think that he was a terrible marksman because he seemed not to hit anyone he was aiming at. :hehe:

Vig was awesome on this and I loved the animators design of him but it would've been cool to have seen him pop a cap in a villian's a$$.

I realize that the censors probably didn't want that sort of violent reaction for kids to see had he.

[Nathan]

I never payed attention to whether Vigilante was hitting something or not. But yeah, he was great in the show. I liked Shining Knight as well. I really love the dialogue between him and General Eiling.

Part of it.

General Wade Eiling: You're a relic. In this world, power is the only thing that matters. You and those other no-name heroes, you're just people, in the great scheme of things, nothing you do has the least bit of significance.
[General punches Shining Knight across the street]
General Wade Eiling: I'll waste you and billion like you before I let any power rival America's. It's my duty.
Shining Knight: You don't know what the word means.
General Wade Eiling: You can't win.
Shining Knight: I'll die as befits a knight. Defending the weak.
[Shining Knight tries to stand up but can't]
General Wade Eiling: Why don't you give up?
Shining Knight: Why don't you?

Oh, and Shining Knight in the elevator together with Vigilante was great too. :D

[SoulManX]

I never payed attention to whether Vigilante was hitting something or not. But yeah, he was great in the show. I liked Shining Knight as well. I really love the dialogue between him and General Eiling.

Part of it.

General Wade Eiling: You're a relic. In this world, power is the only thing that matters. You and those other no-name heroes, you're just people, in the great scheme of things, nothing you do has the least bit of significance.
[General punches Shining Knight across the street]
General Wade Eiling: I'll waste you and billion like you before I let any power rival America's. It's my duty.
Shining Knight: You don't know what the word means.
General Wade Eiling: You can't win.
Shining Knight: I'll die as befits a knight. Defending the weak.
[Shining Knight tries to stand up but can't]
General Wade Eiling: Why don't you give up?
Shining Knight: Why don't you?

Oh, and Shining Knight in the elevator together with Vigilante was great too. :D

There are a lot JLU fans that hate this ep...I love it the begining with Spy Smasher is just awesome:woot:

[union_jak]

It has Speedy and Stargirl in it, whats not to love!

[RogueDK]

There are a lot JLU fans that hate this ep...I love it the begining with Spy Smasher is just awesome:woot:
I love this ep; it had alot of funny lines in it for me.

Eiling: "Where's Superman?"

Green Arrow: "He's not here right now; can I help you with something?"

Eiling: "Sure...HOLD this for me!" Eiling throws a car at GA. :hehe:

It might not be word for word but I get a laugh from that sequence everytime.

[SoulManX]

I think the main reason is the Newsboys Legion :o

[SoulManX]

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Hawkgirl

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The Voice Actors


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Wonder Woman

[SoulManX]

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[SoulManX]

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[RogueDK]

Was the reason Tim Daly wasn't available to reprise his role as Superman due to the fact that he was then filming episodes for The Fugitive remake series on CBS?

These two shows had come out around the same time I recall.

[SoulManX]

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9300/batmanbeyondrosswblithoss7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[SoulManX]

Was the reason Tim Daly wasn't available to reprise his role as Superman due to the fact that he was then filming episodes for The Fugitive remake series on CBS?

These two shows had come out around the same time I recall.

Yep that is correct...get this The elder Superman on BB was Chris McDonald:yay:

[RogueDK]

Yep that is correct...get this The elder Superman on BB was Chris McDonald:yay:
Shooter MacGavin? I didn't know that but his voice is fitting for that part.

[SoulManX]

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6738/justiceleague3rdseasonpww0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[SoulManX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C40OeMiSAaE

[SoulManX]

Shooter MacGavin? I didn't know that but his voice is fitting for that part.

He also did Jor El:cwink:

[TheCorpulent1]

Wow that sucks...which brings up this question.

Does the Timmverse plan better than what other EIC at DC have done:huh:

Yeah, but at the same time the Timmverse guys only have one or two shows at most to worry about. DC publishes dozens of comics every week.

[SoulManX]

Yeah, but at the same time the Timmverse guys only have one or two shows at most to worry about. DC publishes dozens of comics every week.

Hmmm good point.

[SoulManX]

http://dcanimated.wikia.com/wiki/DCAU_Wiki

Wiki for the DCAU

[union_jak]

Very nice, that could provide hours of reading!

[RogueDK]

Very nice link. SMX. :word:

[Warhammer]

So 2009 is right around the corner, which begs the question...

Will we get "The Near Apocalypse of '09" or is the DCAU (the Dini/Timmverse) over forever?

[RogueDK]

or is the DCAU (the Dini/Timmverse) over forever?


Never...say...DIE. :nono:

[Dr. Fate]

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/9919/canalsm1gt0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Hawkgirl

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2290/comicon20042yb1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The Voice Actors


http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/3929/wwit4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Wonder Woman





Proving once again that you don't have to look the part, you just have to sound the part.:cwink:

[SoulManX]

Proving once again that you don't have to look the part, you just have to sound the part.:cwink:

Aye...though Hawkgirl's voice actor is hot:o

[SoulManX]

So 2009 is right around the corner, which begs the question...

Will we get "The Near Apocalypse of '09" or is the DCAU (the Dini/Timmverse) over forever?


That would be so sweet:yay:

[Metamorpho1977]

The new Brave and the Bold series looks interesting.

[Dr. Fate]

Aye...though Hawkgirl's voice actor is hot:o
That she is, that she is.:grin: I wonder what it would have been like to have her voicing Wonder Woman...

[RogueDK]

The new Brave and the Bold series looks interesting.


I'm definetely tuning in next week. The animation is very psuedo-retro so that got my attention alone.

I just hope that it isn't too uber-kiddie.

[SoulManX]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_The_Brave_and_the_Bold

It will be something to check with Korgoth voicing Bats:o

[TheCorpulent1]

I'll watch the first episode, at least, but I don't have high hopes. It looks very Dick Sprang-esque, which is a style for Batman that's best left in the past.

[RogueDK]

I'll watch the first episode, at least, but I don't have high hopes. It looks very Dick Sprang-esque, which is a style for Batman that's best left in the past.
I don't see it that way; this retro approach is a great way to break up the montony of the "brooding" crusader we've grown accustomed to over the last twenty years. Whether you want to admit or not, that gets old too.

Also, this Sprang-esque style will be re-introduced to many young Batman fans who may not have been aware of his other incarnations from the comics. Y'know, a what's old is new sort of thing?
I just hope that the stories aren't too silly.

That's the cool thing about Batman; there are so many different visualizations of the character and yet he maintains a mass appeal...

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't have a problem with some levity, but Batman is a dark character. Losing that and forcing him into the mold of a typical, bright and sunny superhero is stupid to me. Why not just make Brave and the Bold focus on Superman, instead? He's the quintessential bright and sunny superhero.

[RogueDK]

I don't have a problem with some levity, but Batman is a dark character.

Hasn't always been. He may have started out that way but this ferris wheel of recycling his mythos has been going on long before we came along.


Losing that and forcing him into the mold of a typical, bright and sunny superhero is stupid to me.
With all due respect, that's subjective.

Why not just make Brave and the Bold focus on Superman, instead? He's the quintessential bright and sunny superhero.

C'mon, Corp. You know that this comic title revolved around Bats. Hence one reason for the yesteryear style of the 60s-70s.
And isn't it about time that Superman's balls dropped? He wouldn't fare well in a show like this because he is too sunny and is hardly as glamourous as Batman in the first place.

[TheCorpulent1]

Of course it's subjective, I even indicated as much in the post. Everything about our appreciation for various interpretations of characters is subjective, and I subjectively disliked the goofy, happy-go-lucky Sprang interpretation of Batman. It's not like I'm boycotting the cartoon on that basis, though. I said I'd try its first episode out, I just don't have high hopes. In fact, I'm looking forward to the new Blue Beetle more than anything else in the episode. While the Batman they're presenting in B&B is a version I'm familiar with, it's just not the version I enjoy.

[RogueDK]

^^^Yeah, you might be a closet fan of this show and we'll never be any the wiser. :oldrazz:

I promise to admit if it sucks. I'll eat my words.

[TheCorpulent1]

I suspect it'll probably be good in its own way. I just doubt I'll like it much.

[Anubis]

It'll either be really good or really s**ty. They do get brownie points from me due to the fact that Plas is gonna be on there.

[SoulManX]

I suspect it'll probably be good in its own way. I just doubt I'll like it much.

But let us not forget campy saved Bats (Adam West) so its all not so bad. I to will give the a shot but its more for the tots than us.

[RogueDK]

You like Plastic Man, Anubis? He fits a cartoon of this style perfectly.

[Anubis]

Brownie points are a good thing man.

[RogueDK]

Brownie points are a good thing man.

Oh I agree with you, I was just typing too fast. Disregard the last post. Duely edited.

[SoulManX]

It'll either be really good or really s**ty. They do get brownie points from me due to the fact that Plas is gonna be on there.

Dude..thank you. Might Man and Yuk yuk were a part of the Plastic Man Show from Ruby-Spears:word:

[RogueDK]

Dude..thank you. Might Man and Yuk yuk were a part of the Plastic Man Show from Ruby-Spears:word:
I vaguely remember the PM cartoon show by Spears but MM & Yuk still escape me. :huh:

[SoulManX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a101xUm4pFQ

[RogueDK]

Good ol' Spears. Those were the days. :word:

[SoulManX]

Good ol' Spears. Those were the days. :word:

Them and HB pretty much ruled Superheroes after Filmation:o

[Metamorpho1977]

I just hope that it isn't too uber-kiddie.

I know what you mean. That's what I hated about Teen Titans.

[Dr. Fate]

I know what you mean. That's what I hated about Teen Titans.
I admit Teen Titans TAS made me laugh, but I've always wondered why they went the uber-kid route with it.

[SoulManX]

I know what you mean. That's what I hated about Teen Titans.

:csad:

[Nathan]

I didn't like the uber-kiddiness about Teen Titans, but it was a fun show. The action was good.

[TheCorpulent1]

The stories got pretty good towards the end, too. Really, the only thing I hated about Teen Titans was the stupid anime-inspired 'humor.' That's a big part of what turns me off to anime in general, so to see an American show aping that just didn't sit well with me. I got over that and enjoyed the actual stories in the last couple of seasons, though, especially the one with Kid Flash. Hopefully I'll be able to do the same with Brave and the Bold.

[RogueDK]

I didn't like the uber-kiddiness about Teen Titans, but it was a fun show. The action was good.

My Marvel fanboy son LOVED TT but it was targeting his age group anyway. The series had some good shows I'll admit but it really wasn't catering to us adults.

I loved the Robin design with the steel toed boots and bo staff though...and the frozen facial expressions anytime Starfire had the urge to break out in song. :hehe:

[Nathan]

I really liked the episode Go!, where you see all of the Teen Titans meet for the first time and Starfire as a tough-as-nails crazy space chick.

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2287/teentitans01sh9.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[SoulManX]

My Marvel fanboy son LOVED TT but it was targeting his age group anyway. The series had some good shows I'll admit but it really wasn't catering to us adults.

I loved the Robin design with the steel toed boots and bo staff though...and the frozen facial expressions anytime Starfire had the urge to break out in song. :hehe:

It would have been better with Tim Drake and have Static be a part timer:o

[RogueDK]

Speaking of Static, when are WB/DC going to put out a season set for his show? I love the one with Batman on it.

[SoulManX]

Speaking of Static, when are WB/DC going to put out a season set for his show? I love the one with Batman on it.

I doubt it you will see it...hell where is my Static action figure with real spark action and trash can lid:o

[BlackLantern]

a fantastic episode of TT was 'Lightspeed' with Kid Flash

[RogueDK]

And honestly, has Aqualad ever been cooler than when he was on Teen Titans?

[TheCorpulent1]

Yep. When he was Tempest in the comics. :oldrazz:

[RogueDK]

Yep. When he was Tempest in the comics. :oldrazz:
Well I meant in the context of the animated ventures.

[SoulManX]

a fantastic episode of TT was 'Lightspeed' with Kid Flash

Co-sign:o

[SoulManX]

And honestly, has Aqualad ever been cooler than when he was on Teen Titans?

Neva cared for Aqualad:o

[RogueDK]

Neva cared for Aqualad:o
Have you cared for any waterlogged superheroes?

TT's Aqualad looked cool as opposed to the pubescent kid in blue undies galavanting around the ocean bottom from the 60s cartoons.

[BlackLantern]

I never have...I still think Aquaman is lame....'Entourage' even had a season long running joke about it

[Nathan]

Never really cared for any of the waterbased heroes either. Never really got into Aquaman in the comics. But I liked him in the JL/U cartoon. To be honest there was barely a character I didn't like in the cartoon.

Anyway, as for Aqualad, meh, cared for him less than Aquaman.

[union_jak]

They got Jodi Benson to voice Aquagirl in Batman Beyond/JLU, which is kinda cool on a trivia point of view.

[RogueDK]

Yeah, characters like Aquaman and Prince Gaymor can be difficult to generate mass appeal.

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, wow, that was clever. :whatever:

[RogueDK]

Oh, wow, that was clever. :whatever:
Hey, don't blame me...

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g245/RougeArtist/Aquaman_morefuncomics83_37.jpg

:woot:

[TheCorpulent1]

So many superheroes sucked in that period, yet Aquaman is the only one anyone notices sucking. :(

[Nathan]

Might be that people noticed him more because of that horrible outfit and color-scheme. I mean, seriously, orange and green?

[RogueDK]

With the exception of the awesome Timmverse, Aquaman's arguably lame stature has been perpetuated for the last 40 years.

I remember buying the DTV of JL: The New Frontier and he was the most useless one on there. WTF was that all about? What a bogus contribution. And then on the special features of this same movie, when it was Aquaman's time to be described, one of the staffers just laughs. LAUGHS.

Perhaps Bruce Timm could tackle reshaping the hero some? The character desperately needs "sack."

[Anubis]

I can post pics too you know.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/DC%20II/Aquaman-splitting-a-wave.jpg

[BlackLantern]

With the exception of the awesome Timmverse, Aquaman's arguable lstature has been perpetuated for the last 40 years.

I remember buying the DTV of JL: The New Frontier and he was the most useless one on there. WTF was that all about? What a bogus contribution. And then on the special features of this same movie, when it was Aquaman's time to be described, one of the staffers just laughs. LAUGHS.

Perhaps Bruce Timm could tackle reshaping the hero some? The character desperately needs "sack."

I don't feel Aquaman is worth the time....he will be making an appearance in the new 'Batman: Brave and the Bold' animated series....

[Anubis]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/DC/aquaman29.jpg

[RogueDK]

Ah, Anubis...I'd figure that this subject would spark a retort from you.

I have that book (believe it or not) and he looks very effeminate. I preferred the Sub Diego story arc much more. That was a mixture of classic and contemporary Aquaman.

[BlackLantern]

He looks like he's trying to sexually force himself on Supes

[union_jak]

So 2009 is right around the corner, which begs the question...

Will we get "The Near Apocalypse of '09" or is the DCAU (the Dini/Timmverse) over forever?
I hope so.

[RogueDK]

He looks like he's trying to sexually force himself on Supes
:funny:


http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g245/RougeArtist/SuperFriendsDisturbingPanel.jpg

[Anubis]

Well, we all know Supes loves the c**k.

[BlackLantern]

:funny:


http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g245/RougeArtist/SuperFriendsDisturbingPanel.jpg

that makes me feel.....uncomfortable.....and I can't even shower now....:csad:

[SoulManX]

Ok I never said I don't like water based heroes just Aqualad the water version of Robin...I love Aquaman even had pajamas with him. He's not Batman mind you but I think a badass movie is what he needs. JLU had him right :o

[SoulManX]

:funny:


http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g245/RougeArtist/SuperFriendsDisturbingPanel.jpg

See Zan is useful:o

[BlackLantern]

Ok I never said I don't like water based heroes just Aqualad the water version of Robin...I love Aquaman even had pajamas with him. He's not Batman mind you but I think a badass movie is what he needs. JLU had him right :o

Aquaman doesn't need anything....can we just ignore him?

[RogueDK]

Well, we all know Supes loves the c**k.
Okay, that cracked me up I'll admit. I scrolled down reading and there it was. :lmao:

When all else fails...flip the gayness onto a more popular superhero.


Aquaman doesn't need anything....can we just ignore him?


:lmao:

[SoulManX]

Aquaman doesn't need anything....can we just ignore him?

How can you ignore one of the founding members of Justice League:huh:

Barry, Arthur, Hal, Dinah...AM just needs a new spin Superman TAS and JLU were going in the right direction:o

[TheCorpulent1]

I can post pics too you know.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/DC%20II/Aquaman-splitting-a-wave.jpg
Aquaman > Moses. :up:

[RogueDK]

How can you ignore one of the founding members of Justice League:huh:

Barry, Arthur, Hal, Dinah...AM just needs a new spin Superman TAS and JLU were going in the right direction:o

Yes, he does, SMX. Unfortunately there seems not to be alot of faith in taking him on in a solo capacity. But I shouldn't be surprised...

I'm still waiting for The Flash to get his own series.

[BlackLantern]

The Flash or GL should get their own animated series or film before Aqua***** does

[Nathan]

A GL corps cartoon would be awesome.

[Anubis]

Only if hal Jordan isn't involved.

[BlackLantern]

Only if hal Jordan isn't involved.

shut your whorish mouth:yay:

[RogueDK]

The Flash or GL should get their own animated series or film before Aqua***** does
I strongly believe that it's a foregone conclusion that GL will finally get his own series to coincide with the big budget feature film set to come out in a couple of years.

However it might be called GL Corps instead of just Hal towing the line. That's the brilliance of the Corps, so many of them to write stories on.

[SoulManX]

Only if hal Jordan isn't involved.

Whoa dude some lantern fans might string you up:o

[Anubis]

They wanna go to war with the Rayner Fans, then bring it ON! :mad:

Nah, I don't really care. But I know Corp would have come in with something similar, so I figured i'd save him the trouble.

[BlackLantern]

They wanna go to war with the Rayner Fans, then bring it ON! :mad:

Yes...all 25 of them

[RogueDK]

Is anyone here remotely amped for the new Wonder Woman DTV in a few months?

I like the Timm-ish animation to it.

[SoulManX]

Is anyone here remotely amped for the new Wonder Woman DTV in a few months?

I like the Timm-ish animation to it.

It looks ok:o

[Anubis]

Yes...all 25 of them

I'm sure 25 whipper snappers could take out about 100 senior citizens.

[BlackLantern]

not everyone that likes Hal is old.....

[Anubis]

And the fan base is pretty much split on the Kyle/Hal thing, I thought we were just exaggerating for laughs?

[RogueDK]

It looks ok:o
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g245/RougeArtist/080707wonderwoman_poster.jpg

I saw the trailer not long ago and it looks good. I plan on getting it if she's kicking major ass in it.

Her stand alone stories in JLU were lukewarm at best.

I'm sure 25 whipper snappers could take out about 100 senior citizens.


Rayner came around in little over a decade ago and I still didn't accept him fully. What's age got to do with it? I was certainly young enough (23) to accept him then and didn't.

Hal Jordan is the greatest GL of them all.

[TheCorpulent1]

They wanna go to war with the Rayner Fans, then bring it ON! :mad:

Nah, I don't really care. But I know Corp would have come in with something similar, so I figured i'd save him the trouble.
I don't mind Hal when he's what he's supposed to be: one among many on the Corps. It's when people start making him out to be some kind of god among Lanterns that I get annoyed. He's one of the best, sure, but John, Guy, Kyle, Kilowog, and Salakk have proven themselves every bit the Lantern Hal has, and it's not fair to try and take that away from them to appeal to some musty old status quo where Hal was the best and everyone else in the Corps looked like an idiot.

Personally, I'd much rather see a JSA series before one for the GL, Flash, Aquaman, or any other hero. Set it in the '40s and maybe tell it from Superman's perspective for mainstream appeal. If Superman's the hero everyone looks up to today, they should show the JSA as the heroes that Superman looked up to when he was growing up.

[BlackLantern]

And the fan base is pretty much split on the Kyle/Hal thing, I thought we were just exaggerating for laughs?

No it is not split at all.....its about 70/30 in favor of Hal....

[RogueDK]

^^^I was to see Alan Scott too. Very underused.

[BlackLantern]

Id be all for a JSA movie or series or something....

[TheCorpulent1]

No it is not split at all.....its about 70/30 in favor of Hal....
What's that smell? Oh, right, you just pulled those numbers out of your ass. :dry:
^^^I was to see Alan Scott too. Very underused.
Alan Scott is the greatest Green Lantern of all time, as far as I'm concerned. The rest are all pale imitators that need a 72,000-strong corps to measure up to just one Alan Scott. :up:

[Anubis]

I can make up stats too.

It's actually 50/47 in favor of Kyle. :o

[BlackLantern]

I'm going by people I've talked to....people I've met at both WonderCon and SDCC....and it leans toward Hal Jordan....people tend to be ambivalent about Kyle Rayner...he's nice and all...but he just isn't the guy....There are people and opinions that exist outside the Hype....

[TheCorpulent1]

I can make up stats too.

It's actually 50/47 in favor of Kyle. :o
The other 3 voted for Katma Tui.

[Anubis]

I'm going by people I've talked to....people I've met at both WonderCon and SDCC....and it leans toward Hal Jordan....people tend to be ambivalent about Kyle Rayner...he's nice and all...but he just isn't the guy....There are people and opinions that exist outside the Hype....

You're full of feces.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know what the actual split is. I know Hal's comics are selling extremely well because there was a big hooplah made about them when they started and Geoff Johns' and Ethan Van Sciver's names alone are enough to drive sales up on virtually anything. Just wait until they do Bibbo Bibbowski: Rebirth and it sells like 400,000 copies. You'll see I'm right. :ninja:

[Dr. Fate]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g245/RougeArtist/080707wonderwoman_poster.jpg

I saw the trailer not long ago and it looks good. I plan on getting it if she's kicking major ass in it.

Her stand alone stories in JLU were lukewarm at best.

I agree, her JLU eps weren't the best stories turned out by the DCAU. Hopefully, this will kick ass.

[BlackLantern]

i don't know what the actual split is. I know hal's comics are selling extremely well because there was a big hooplah made about them when they started and geoff johns' and ethan van sciver's names alone are enough to drive sales up on virtually anything. Just wait until they do bibbo bibbowski: Rebirth. You'll see i'm right. :ninja:

:lmao:

[Anubis]

I dig the Greek Features they gave WW in that DTV. It could be pretty awesome.

[RogueDK]

I dig the Greek Features they gave WW in that DTV. It could be pretty awesome.
I think so. :word:

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I like that they made her look a bit more Greek, too. I hope she also towers over pretty much everybody. Wonder Woman should be like 6'5". Enormous for a woman and tall even for a man.

[RogueDK]

Yeah, I like that they made her look a bit more Greek, too.
This one of the arguements I've gotten from many turned off from the designs thus far and it's pretty stupid. Wonder Woman should have an exotic look, not resemble Hillary Duff. :whatever:

I like it.

[SoulManX]

Like I said it looks ok:o

Corp's the JSA series idea is great:woot:

[Hush]

Im buying the WonderWoman DTV no matter what I need a complete DCUA. I must include this.

[TheCorpulent1]

So you actually own DVDs for every season of The Batman and Superfriends and all that junk?

[SoulManX]

So you actually own DVDs for every season of The Batman and Superfriends and all that junk?
:hehe:

[SoulManX]

You know what would be great a JLU vs Avengers Timm and Dini style:woot:

[RogueDK]

You know what would be great a JLU vs Avengers Timm and Dini style:woot:
:word:

[TheCorpulent1]

That would be cool, but it'd never, ever, ever happen in a million years. Look at how hard it is to work out a Marvel/DC crossover in the comics, and then add beaurocratic suits at the movie/TV studios controlling those characters into that mess. Spider-Man and the X-Men wouldn't even be allowed to participate in it because their film/TV rights are owned by Sony and Fox, respectively.

[SoulManX]

That would be cool, but it'd never, ever, ever happen in a million years. Look at how hard it is to work out a Marvel/DC crossover in the comics, and then add beaurocratic suits at the movie/TV studios controlling those characters into that mess. Spider-Man and the X-Men wouldn't even be allowed to participate in it because their film/TV rights are owned by Sony and Fox, respectively.

I know but I can dream...if Marvel and Warner Bros were smart they would do this...the money made from this would be off the charts.

[Hush]

So you actually own DVDs for every season of The Batman and Superfriends and all that junk?

Let me re-phrase, I must own all the TimmVerse DCUA. I actually wouldnt mind owning all the Teen Titans, The Batman and Superfriends I just don't have the money. I just want to support the good animated stuff so that we atleast let the higher ups at Warners know that people still love this stuff.

[TheCorpulent1]

But the Wonder Woman DTV doesn't fall under the Timmverse.

[RogueDK]

if Marvel and Warner Bros were smart they would do this...the money made from this would be off the charts.
Yeah, but that's too much like right. Besides, you're sure to have disgruntled fans from both sides if they didn't like how the match-ups went down.
Just Superman getting beat up by Sentry alone would cause upheaval.

Besides, I don't think either company is in the mood to piggyback the other's product at this point. With Iron Man making Marvel ridiculous loot in theatres, only to get trumped by TDK a couple of months later, it's like a comic book Cold War between these two.

[Hush]

Timms Name is on it, correct? Then its Timmverse enough for me.

[RogueDK]

Timms Name is on it, correct? Then its Timmverse enough for me.

Timm's name is attached to the God-awful Batman: Gotham Knight too. However I refuse to add that one to the Timmverse.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I bought Gotham Knight. It wasn't terrible, really, just disappointing given the talent involved.

[Hush]

Gothan Knight is amazing, are you smoking crack?

[Anubis]

I liked some parts of it. The first story at least. Had a kinda Lupin the 3rd deal going on.

[RogueDK]

Gothan Knight is amazing, are you smoking crack?
No. But maybe I should've been to endure this P.O.S.

Other than the Deadshot segment, it was a waste of time and money.

[SoulManX]

Yeah, but that's too much like right. Besides, you're sure to have disgruntled fans from both sides if they didn't like how the match-ups went down.
Just Superman getting beat up by Sentry alone would cause upheaval.

Besides, I don't think either company is in the mood to piggyback the other's product at this point. With Iron Man making Marvel ridiculous loot in theatres, only to get trumped by TDK a couple of months later, it's like a comic book Cold War between these two.

Remember the comic? Just use that as the base:o

[RogueDK]

Remember the comic? Just use that as the base:o
I wouldn't hold my breath for anything that special again. Just thinking of all the stipulations involved before signing off on it gives me a headache.

I just think that at this juncture, Marvel wants to stick it to WB/DC every chance they can. They're trying to throw punch for punch with WB with their animated endeavors alone:

Hulk vs. Thor
Hulk vs. Wolverine
Black Panther:TAS

See where I'm going with this?

[Anubis]

Not going to happen. At least not until Marvel somehow regains control of the animation rights to all their characters.

[Anubis]

BP may end up being complete crap. And I have little to no faith in Marvels DTV department. All the stuff they've made has been Mediocre to flat out crap.

[RogueDK]

BP may end up being complete crap. And I have little to no faith in Marvels DTV department. All the stuff they've made has been Mediocre to flat out crap.
I agree about BP but Marvel is trying to make their own nitch in that market. You have to start somewhere...

In defense of BP though, it's a black superhero project with a sh***y budget, get it?

[BlackLantern]

and BP is airing on BET....that's a stupid move in itself...the BET audience are not cartoon watchers....

[Anubis]

Or smart enough not to watch BET in the first place for that matter. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Marvel's DTVs do suck. Although, to be fair, most of DC's DTVs have been crappy too. New Frontier's the exception, and that one isn't anywhere near as good as it should be given its source material.

[Anubis]

Damn Straight. I still can't believe they made them condense that story into 90 freaking Minutes. WTF man.

[BlackLantern]

pretty much...I will not lower myself nor my TV to tune into BET for that....as for Marvels animated stuff, they are trying....I saw a preview screening at SDCC for the new 'Wolverine and the x-men' cartoon and it was ok....as for Spectacular spider-man its ok....my nephew and my 4 younger cousins love that damn show....

[RogueDK]

and BP is airing on BET....that's a stupid move in itself...the BET audience are not cartoon watchers....
And insulting in a segregated way...

[TheCorpulent1]

Damn Straight. I still can't believe they made them condense that story into 90 freaking Minutes. WTF man.
Should've been a mini-series.

[Anubis]

pretty much...I will not lower myself nor my TV to tune into BET for that....as for Marvels animated stuff, they are trying....I saw a preview screening at SDCC for the new 'Wolverine and the x-men' cartoon and it was ok....as for Spectacular spider-man its ok....my nephew and my 4 younger cousins love that damn show....


Actually, I'd say that Spectacular Spider-Man may be the best Superhero cartoon Marvel has ever produced. Yes, even better than the 90's X-Men and Spider-Man shows. It explores everything about the character that needs to be explored. It doesn't try to dumb down the material, and it's got great action. That's everything you need out of a good Superhero cartoon.

[TheCorpulent1]

pretty much...I will not lower myself nor my TV to tune into BET for that....as for Marvels animated stuff, they are trying....I saw a preview screening at SDCC for the new 'Wolverine and the x-men' cartoon and it was ok....as for Spectacular spider-man its ok....my nephew and my 4 younger cousins love that damn show....
Tell them that Spider-Man sold his marriage to the devil to save his surrogate mom, who didn't even want saving, and then ask them if they still want to support a show about a loser mama's boy who's totally not getting laid by a supermodel anymore.

[Anubis]

Should've been a mini-series.

Hell, 130 minutes would have been enough to tell it properly. Though with a mini, they could have encluded the whole fight between Batman and Superman that had been revealed to us in that recent one shot that came out. That would have been awesome to see on film.

[RogueDK]

Marvel's DTVs do suck. Although, to be fair, most of DC's DTVs have been crappy too.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g245/RougeArtist/vlcsnap-359626.png

[BlackLantern]

Tell them that Spider-Man sold his marriage to the devil to save his surrogate mom, who didn't even want saving, and then ask them if they still want to support a show about a loser mama's boy who's totally not getting laid by a supermodel anymore.

actually my 13 yr old cousin has this odd hatred of MJ...he doesn't like redheads....we agree its nice to read Spider-Man and not have MJ or aunt may crammed down our throats every issue....but I don't want this discussion to go down that road....

as for Spectacular....I wish they would have explored the effect of the black suit over 5 or 6 episodes...both animated series cut it short at 2 or 3 episodes...

[Anubis]

I'd have rather they ignored the Symbiont crap all together.

[BlackLantern]

I guess the next DC DTV's are Wonder Woman, Teen Titans (sometime in 09) and apparently bruce timm is working on some super secret Batman story...

[TheCorpulent1]

"Symbiote," Nubs. It's only a "symbiont" in real life, where we use real words.

[RogueDK]

I guess the next DC DTV's are Wonder Woman, Teen Titans (sometime in 09) and apparently bruce timm is working on some super secret Batman story...
:word::word::word:

[Anubis]

"Symbiote," Nubs. It's only a "symbiont" in real life, where we use real words.

Deadpool calls em Symbiont, Imma call it Symbiont. :o

Also, I thought they were making a Hawkman one as well.

[union_jak]

I guess the next DC DTV's are Wonder Woman, Teen Titans (sometime in 09) and apparently bruce timm is working on some super secret Batman story...
They did say they were working on 13 over the next couple of years, and that they weren't done with the DCAU/JLU.

Gotham Knight
Superman|Doomsday
The New Frontier
Wonder Woman
Teen Titans

This leaves 8 DTVs. Batman? Green Lantern Corps? Flash? JLU? Near Apocolypse of '09? Birds of Prey? Green Arrow? Catwoman?

[TheCorpulent1]

Deadpool calls em Symbiont, Imma call it Symbiont. :o

Also, I thought they were making a Hawkman one as well.
I hope it's really comprehensive. It shouldn't take more than 2 days or so to cover Hawkman's history.

[Anubis]

BWWAHAHAH..shut up.

[BlackLantern]

Timm also mentioned in San Diego about doing a Justice League vs Crime Syndicate of America story...but its on the fence right now...It's an idea he's had since the first season of JLU

[TheCorpulent1]

Why didn't he ever do it? That seems like a no-brainer for a JLU episode. Although I suppose they kind of covered it with the Justice Lords.

[BlackLantern]

I'm guessing they had the Cadmus arc already planned and this was intended to be a stand-alone thing....Id go for seeing Ultraman, Owlman, and Power Ring duke it out with the League

[Anubis]

Yeah, but a real CSA versus JLU, that would be awesome. Especially if they make up evil versions for all the characters in JLU. Massive Superhero mirror war. That would be....the awesome.

[RogueDK]

I really wished that the Timmverse would put together a BLACKHAWKS DTV already. That would be a great period piece. :word:

[Anubis]

My pops likes the Blackhawks. That was his favorite comic when he was a kid. If they did do one, I'd probably buy it for him.

[BlackLantern]

same with my dad....we watched the last chunk of JL season one together one weekend when he visited me from Maine...he really liked "The Savage Time" and got a kick out of seeing the Blackhawks and Sgt Rock again