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Carcharodon
09-30-2007, 05:06 PM
Cowboy Curtis? No, I still call him Mr. Clean, the character he played in Apocalypse NowI still call him Cowboy Curtis. :o
ShadowBoxing
09-30-2007, 05:09 PM
It's also just not very tactful. It's like saying to a woman over the phone "you know, from speaking to you I assumed you were an ugly hag with horrible manners, but was pleasant to find otherwise" - and then ya'know, instead of being a woman, it's an entire subsection of the human race.
Abaddon
09-30-2007, 05:11 PM
and based on that experience adding "You know, I think women are finally starting to get it now. Good for them."
BlackLantern
09-30-2007, 05:20 PM
I still call him Cowboy Curtis. :o
I bet if O'reilly referred to him as Cowboy curtis...he would be called a demeaning racist.....I personally find it insulting as well, considering the large body of work that fishburne has put together over the years....
Arkady Rossovich
09-30-2007, 06:23 PM
Good 'ol Bill'O.
He was thinking of this.Minorities do the strangest things.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/Jared_leto_love/th14obrtl.gif
Wilhelm-Scream
09-30-2007, 06:34 PM
He was thinking of this.Minorities do the strangest things.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/Jared_leto_love/th14obrtl.gif
That looks like white kids at a Heavy Metal or Punk concert, only...Black.
ShadowBoxing
09-30-2007, 06:36 PM
That looks like white kids at a Heavy Metal or Punk concert, only...Black.
No wai! White kids politely sit and watch their concerts in utter reserved silence. Bill O'Reilly recently found, however, black people may do this as well in certain situations:wow:
ShadowBoxing
09-30-2007, 06:46 PM
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/9/94/180px-Chamberlain.jpg
"I say ol'bean that "La Zepplin de Led" concert at the local theatre was most enjoyable, it's a shame those negro roughians had to ruin it for everyone with their riff raff up in the rafters. Perhaps after we wash up our face and hands in the restroom we can turn on the tele. I hear that delightfully insighting Mr. Bill O'Reilly is on and I shant miss it. I so do want to hear about his trip out to Harlem to dine at the negro eatery called Sylvia's. It's is anything like those "rap musicians" I keep hearing about it should prove interesting..."
BlackLantern
09-30-2007, 07:26 PM
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/9/94/180px-Chamberlain.jpg
"I say ol'bean that "La Zepplin de Led" concert at the local theatre was most enjoyable, it's a shame those negro roughians had to ruin it for everyone with their riff raff up in the rafters. Perhaps after we wash up our face and hands in the restroom we can turn on the tele. I hear that delightfully insighting Mr. Bill O'Reilly is on and I shant miss it. I so do want to hear about his trip out to Harlem to dine at the negro eatery called Sylvia's. It's is anything like those "rap musicians" I keep hearing about it should prove interesting..."
LOL......well cheerio, old man
Oh dear. Is there some kind of racist statement epidemic going around nowadays?
sinewave
10-01-2007, 10:06 AM
Oh dear. Is there some kind of racist statement epidemic going around nowadays?
apparently it's all been taken out of context. :whatever: X infinity
ObakeTora
10-01-2007, 01:09 PM
People don't care what film you won an Oscar for, just that you did win an Oscar....I don't remember who said that, but it makes sense....Oscar Winner goes in front of your name for as long as you are doing fillm. Referring to Morgan Freeman as Easy Reader is borderline insulting, that was how long ago...?? everyone has bills to pay.....You don't see people referring to Laurence Fishburne as "that guy from pee wee's playhouse...do you?
hey I liked Easy reader, that wasn't meant to be insulting at all, if anything it shows what a talented and versatile actor he is. How can a good childhood memory be insulting and why in the Hell did you surmise that he should be ashamed of this role? Look at all the people that know how to read thanks to Freeman. (I bet youve caught yourself humming the t-i-o-n song in odd moments too!) ~smoke some cronic man...
BlackLantern
10-01-2007, 01:15 PM
hey I liked Easy reader, that wasn't meant to be insulting at all, if anything it shows what a talented and versatile actor he is. How can a good childhood memory be insulting? (I bet youve caught yourself humming the t-i-o-n song in odd moments too!)
No sorry....never got into Electric Company....was more of a Mr. Rogers fan myself....I learned how graham crackers were made....then I would watch GI Joe and Transformers
I SEE SPIDEY
10-01-2007, 01:36 PM
It is more ignorance than anything else.....I'm sure a lot of O'Reilly's audience has a preconception of black people, based on music heard on the radio and what the kids are watching on BET.....its an Ignorance hurricane....Katrina.:o
The Overlord
10-01-2007, 01:54 PM
I want some mother****ing ice tea. Not regular ice tea, mother****ing ice tea.
sinewave
10-01-2007, 02:03 PM
I want some mother****ing ice tea. Not regular ice tea, mother****ing ice tea.
the daily show did a great story last week with their resident black correspondent, larry wilmore, eating at sylvia's and trying to order mother****ing iced tea and eating with his hands instead of utensils. silly negro... :dry:
BlackLantern
10-01-2007, 02:04 PM
I want some mother****ing ice tea. Not regular ice tea, mother****ing ice tea. that is the best kind of iced tea....
BlackLantern
10-01-2007, 02:04 PM
the daily show did a great story last week with their resident black correspondent, larry wilmore, eating at sylvia's and trying to order mother****ing iced tea and eating with his hands instead of utensils. silly negro... :dry:
I saw that .....hilarious....I also liked that guy when he talked about the "next meeting"
sinewave
10-01-2007, 02:19 PM
I saw that .....hilarious....I also liked that guy when he talked about the "next meeting"
yeah, he's great.
Mr Sparkle
10-01-2007, 03:29 PM
apparently it's all been taken out of context. :whatever: X infinity
dude, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.
even if I don't like them at all.
why won't you? give in, give in to love :heart:
sinewave
10-01-2007, 03:32 PM
dude, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.
even if I don't like them at all.
why won't you? give in, give in to love :heart:
me too, but he made it clear what his beliefs are. besides, nobody can answer the question "how is it taken out of context?"
ShadowBoxing
10-01-2007, 03:37 PM
In context, it's still f***ing ignorant.
sinewave
10-01-2007, 03:42 PM
^ding, ding, ding, ding! give this man a cupie doll!
Dorian Gray
10-01-2007, 03:47 PM
It's funny when people get their panties in a bunch over what spaztastic, ignorant dribble come out of Bill O’Reily's mouth. Like he's never said anything like this before.
Kelly
10-01-2007, 04:51 PM
It's funny when people get their panties in a bunch over what spaztastic, ignorant dribble come out of Bill O’Reily's mouth. Like he's never said anything like this before.
Exactly, and I think this is actually pretty tame compared to what he has said in the past.
bored
10-12-2007, 11:38 PM
It's been a long time since anyone made a thread about something asinine said by Ann Coulter. I thought it was high time we got back to that. Somebody told me about seeing this interview, so I had to read a bit about it for myself. To sum it up, she says that Jews need to become Christians to be perfect. Read for yourself. Be warned, the article I'm linking to is Media Matters, so if you're not into pretty obviously slanted sites, just skip down to the transcript.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200710100008?f=h_top
Addendum
10-12-2007, 11:39 PM
She's hocking another "book", right?
bored
10-12-2007, 11:42 PM
Yeah, I think they mention title somewhere in that article. I don't remember exactly what it was, but it sounded like pretty standard Coulter.
danoyse
10-13-2007, 12:07 AM
I think that's why people aren't listening to her anymore.
The Evolutionist
10-13-2007, 12:38 AM
She's losing her grip on the public, so she's stepping up how many people she offends. In the next year or so, people won't even know her name.
Zoken
10-13-2007, 12:42 AM
I think even republicans will agree with me when I say "Shut up, *****!"
Abaddon
10-13-2007, 12:44 AM
if we stop paying attention to her she'll turn back into stone.
teseract
10-13-2007, 04:32 AM
Phfff, Ann is so "yesterday's news"
Memphis Slim
10-13-2007, 05:25 AM
It's been a long time since anyone made a thread about something asinine said by Ann Coulter. I thought it was high time we got back to that. Somebody told me about seeing this interview, so I had to read a bit about it for myself. To sum it up, she says that Jews need to become Christians to be perfect. Read for yourself. Be warned, the article I'm linking to is Media Matters, so if you're not into pretty obviously slanted sites, just skip down to the transcript.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200710100008?f=h_top
Media Matters is your source???????? :woot:
teseract
10-13-2007, 05:26 AM
Media Matters is your source???????? :woot:
Better than "Freerepublic" or "Christian Science Monitor":oldrazz:
chamber-music
10-13-2007, 07:37 AM
Even Lego Stephen Hawkins isn't impressed
http://i24.tinypic.com/2d6gw8.jpg
rdh007
10-13-2007, 08:34 AM
I'm not reading anything--whatever she said was stupid.
Dorian Gray
10-13-2007, 09:01 AM
*shakes head*...lol, she's crazy...but at least she's honest about her thoughts and feelings unlike most people (not defending her just saying).
...................and Lego Hawkins never seen that before lol.
Dorian Gray
10-13-2007, 09:05 AM
Phfff, Ann is so "yesterday's news"
Maybe throwing some water on her would make things better.....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/dorian23/wizard-witch-hamilton-3.jpg
jaguarr
10-13-2007, 09:17 AM
I think people are tired of Coulter. She's a vampire, feeding off of negativity and people's time, energy and gullibility. And, I think more and more people are realizing that and just tired of hearing her run her trap. Occasionally, you come across someone who never stops with their ranting and raving and they cause themselves to just become ineffectual white noise because no one really listens to them anymore. That's what Coulter has done to herself.
jag
The Overlord
10-13-2007, 09:36 AM
Media Matters is your source???????? :woot:
Perhaps the source isn't unbiased, but that sounds exactly what that crazy ***** Coulter would say.
Besides if a conservative website slammed Obama would you throw that out as biased as well?
Dorian Gray
10-13-2007, 09:38 AM
edit.
BlackLantern
10-13-2007, 09:56 AM
What I find odd is that she is a self-professed Dead Head and fan of Jerry Garcia.....
Mr Sparkle
10-13-2007, 10:50 AM
Media Matters is your source???????? :woot:
uh...there's video right there on the right side of the article.
unless it's a highly advanced animatronic puppet of Coulter.
but really, how would we be able to tell?
Mr Sparkle
10-13-2007, 10:53 AM
LOL, I hadn't seen it yet, but....uh...she tried to defend an argument using a Seinfeld episode?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
BlackLantern
10-13-2007, 10:56 AM
She sells books by the truckload though.....people love rhetoric
Mr Sparkle
10-13-2007, 10:59 AM
Apparently people love scary borderline insanity.
Imagine if I said White people are just "perfected" Black people.
BlackLantern
10-13-2007, 11:00 AM
Apparently people love scary borderline insanity.
Imagine if I said White people are just "perfected" Black people.
That probably wouldnt go over too well. We are overlooking the obvious here, maybe Ann just needs to get laid.......she's wound too tight.....
Mr Sparkle
10-13-2007, 11:03 AM
well yeah.
the problem to me is, if someone buys her books after this, aren't they tacitly agreeing with her?
I mean, people can't really believe that can they?
chamber-music
10-13-2007, 11:04 AM
That probably wouldnt go over too well. We are overlooking the obvious here, maybe Ann just needs to get laid.......she's wound too tight.....
She sold her womb to the devil for the ability to annoy people.
BlackLantern
10-13-2007, 11:06 AM
She sold her womb to the devil for the ability to annoy people.
That just means she can't breed....which is probably for the best..
BlackLantern
10-13-2007, 11:06 AM
well yeah.
the problem to me is, if someone buys her books after this, aren't they tacitly agreeing with her?
I mean, people can't really believe that can they?
You'd be surprised...I think people just love the sensationalism of her writing.....
The Evolutionist
10-13-2007, 11:24 AM
You'd be surprised...I think people just love the sensationalism of her writing.....
I know people who read it because they love fiction.
C.F. Kane
10-13-2007, 12:19 PM
I'm actually fascinated by what Ann Coulter has to say. It's rather like studying how a disease works.
BlackLantern
10-13-2007, 12:23 PM
I'm actually fascinated by what Ann Coulter has to say. It's rather like studying how a disease works.
It's train wreck syndrome.....
bullets
10-13-2007, 12:27 PM
She sells books by the truckload though.....people love rhetoric
parasites tend to lay alot of eggs
Abaddon
10-13-2007, 12:28 PM
I think she has a personality disorder.
BlackLantern
10-13-2007, 12:29 PM
I'm telling you all, she just needs some deep ****ing....somebody call Lexington Steele or Dirk Diggler or something
bored
10-13-2007, 12:33 PM
Media Matters is your source???????? :woot:
I suppose my source would be someone at my synagogue who actually saw the interview. I just looked at Media Matters because I knew they'd have something on it. Why is it an issue, Cellslim? I even said in my first post that I was linking to a left-wing website, but it has a transcript AND the video. That not enough for you?
The Last Meatbag
10-13-2007, 12:35 PM
What a hateful little *****, I'll show you what Coulter's ideal US would look like:
http://library.thinkquest.org/13831/media/hitler01.gif
bored
10-13-2007, 12:37 PM
No, she wouldn't like that at all. Too much gray ;).
CConn
10-13-2007, 12:39 PM
Why must we be reminded we need to hate Ann Coulter at least once a month?
BlackLantern
10-13-2007, 12:41 PM
Why must we be reminded we need to hate Ann Coulter at least once a month?
I don't hate her, I find her very entertaining, kinda like watching wrestling...you know its BS, but you watch anyway.....according to my sister, she is a fabulous dresser.....
CConn
10-13-2007, 12:42 PM
I don't hate her, I find her very entertaining, kinda like watching wrestling...you know its BS, but you watch anyway.....according to my sister, she is a fabulous dresser.....
Y'know, I actually feel the same way.
But we aren't the ones making these threads, are we?
BlackLantern
10-13-2007, 12:49 PM
Y'know, I actually feel the same way.
But we aren't the ones making these threads, are we?
The last thread I made was about having kids.....I usually leave thread making up to others, I'm lazy
Darthphere
10-13-2007, 01:02 PM
Y'know, I actually feel the same way.
But we aren't the ones making these threads, are we?
Out of all my wonderful quotes, you choose that one for your sig?:csad:
Superman
10-13-2007, 05:09 PM
Media Matters is your source???????? :woot:That's it. Slam the messenger instead of addressing the message. Typical neo-con tactic. :whatever:
Don't you get tired of kissing neo-con ass?:whatever:
CConn
10-13-2007, 05:11 PM
Out of all my wonderful quotes, you choose that one for your sig?:csad:
Well, I was only going to use it for like a day, but then I forgot.
Holly
10-13-2007, 05:11 PM
i cant believe someone who has alien hands/feet.
CConn
10-13-2007, 05:13 PM
That's it. Slam the messenger instead of addressing the message. Typical neo-con tactic. :whatever:
Don't you get tired of kissing neo-con ass?:whatever:
Well, it is sorta ironic. An ungodly bias news source bashing someone known for being ungodly bias.
Maybe, instead of just being partisan fools, we should blame Coulter for her bias (plus the racism, of course), as well as blame the website for theirs.
CConn
10-13-2007, 05:14 PM
The last thread I made was about having kids.....I usually leave thread making up to others, I'm lazy
You're missed my point, but that's all right.
Superman4ever
10-13-2007, 05:17 PM
This is a new low for her!
Ann Coulter: Jews Need to be Perfected! (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=237_1192137274)
She even uses a Seinfeld episode as proof...good lord!
CConn
10-13-2007, 05:18 PM
Really? I could've sworn she's said even worse.
Superman4ever
10-13-2007, 05:21 PM
Really? I could've sworn she's said even worse.
She has but I usually just let her go in one ear and out the other. So, whatever...it still sucks that this person has a voice!
Memphis Slim
10-13-2007, 05:31 PM
Ann needs to do one of these....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oLAp91SW7Ao :yay:
CConn
10-13-2007, 05:33 PM
She has but I usually just let her go in one ear and out the other. So, whatever...it still sucks that this person has a voice!
So wait, when she says something incredibly racist or offensive to black people or women, you let it go, but when it's jews, it suddenly matters?
All of her many insulting comments towards minorities are equally insulting, wrong, and idiotic. That said, I still don't see why we have to continue to give her so much attention and publicity every time she says something racist. You want to take away her voice? Stop listening. Stop making threads about it. Because, remember, it's as good to be infamous as it is to be famous. And hell, infamy is probably the more lucrative of the two.
ShadowBoxing
10-13-2007, 05:34 PM
She's really just Howard Stern in a totally different direction. Instead of being crude, she is prudish and conservative to the point of offensive. But (I bet) it's mostly an act. She does it because, ultimately, it gets attention and draws attention away from more valuable, pressing criticisms of the right.
In her defense, she says what she wants and rarely apologizes. In some ways she represents the best type of person in the worst possible way. It's good that she is outspoken, it's bad that she chooses to be outspoken about things that are extreme, implausible and impractical.
BlackLantern
10-13-2007, 05:49 PM
She has but I usually just let her go in one ear and out the other. So, whatever...it still sucks that this person has a voice!
So Freedom of Speech shouldnt apply to her??.....I don't care for her much myself, but as long as she isnt hurting anyone, whats the problem??
C.F. Kane
10-13-2007, 06:10 PM
Ann needs to do one of these....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oLAp91SW7Ao :yay:
Don an afro wig and sing? I'd pay money to see that.
Zoken
10-13-2007, 06:17 PM
So Freedom of Speech shouldnt apply to her??.....I don't care for her much myself, but as long as she isnt hurting anyone, whats the problem??
Freedom of speech comes with responsiblities.
BlackLantern
10-13-2007, 06:19 PM
Freedom of speech comes with responsiblities.
does it now? apparently she's managed to rack up quite a few bestsellers with her irresponsibility.....
comicgirl
10-13-2007, 06:30 PM
http://lycos50.tripod.com/blog/annc.jpgIt's been a long time since anyone made a thread about something asinine said by Ann Coulter. I thought it was high time we got back to that. Somebody told me about seeing this interview, so I had to read a bit about it for myself. To sum it up, she says that Jews need to become Christians to be perfect. Read for yourself. Be warned, the article I'm linking to is Media Matters, so if you're not into pretty obviously slanted sites, just skip down to the transcript.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200710100008?f=h_topdude...she's got an Adam's Apple....
she sicken's me
The Last Meatbag
10-13-2007, 08:35 PM
She reminds me of the Queen from Aliens :o
BlackLantern
10-13-2007, 08:37 PM
She reminds me of the Queen from Aliens :o
she might be, ingraining herself into the human race before hatching evil eggs to take over the world.....
The Last Meatbag
10-13-2007, 08:38 PM
And spitting acid all over pplz :o
The Overlord
10-13-2007, 08:55 PM
does it now? apparently she's managed to rack up quite a few bestsellers with her irresponsibility.....
That just proves there a lot of idiots out there.
Hey she has the freedom to say what she wants, but I have the freedom to say, she is a stupid, hateful ****** and I hope someone organizes a mass boycott of her products.
BlackLantern
10-13-2007, 09:18 PM
That just proves there a lot of idiots out there.
Hey she has the freedom to say what she wants, but I have the freedom to say, she is a stupid, hateful ****** and I hope someone organizes a mass boycott of her products.
who boycotts anymore??? considering you can buy whatever over the internet, a boycott wouldnt matter.......
Abaddon
10-13-2007, 09:26 PM
To stop those monsters 1-2-3
Here's a fresh new way that's trouble free
It's got Paul Anka's guarantee...
(Guarantee void in Tennessee!)
Just don't look!
Just don't look!
Just don't look!
Just don't look!
BlackLantern
10-13-2007, 09:28 PM
To stop those monsters 1-2-3
Here's a fresh new way that's trouble free
It's got Paul Anka's guarantee...
(Guarantee void in Tennessee!)
Just don't look!
Just don't look!
Just don't look!
Just don't look!
but every bit of nonsense out of her mouth is funnier than the last
Abaddon
10-13-2007, 09:36 PM
It's offensive that people buy it.
BlackLantern
10-13-2007, 09:43 PM
It's offensive that people buy it.
People like to rot their brains......
what was it Larry Flynt said......"Freedom of Speech doesn't protect speech you like, it protects speech you hate"
Superman4ever
10-13-2007, 09:58 PM
So Freedom of Speech shouldnt apply to her??.....I don't care for her much myself, but as long as she isnt hurting anyone, whats the problem??
Put words in my mouth much? When did I say that she didn't have the right to speak her views? All I was saying was it was a shame that SHE had a deceptive voice that is heard and is used intentively for malice efforts to spread hate and intolerance, while there are others that have to scream and bang drums to be heard as a passing whisper.
Why can this guy (http://www.philly.com/dailynews/columnists/stu_bykofsky/20070809_Stu_Bykofsky___To_save_America__we_need_a nother_9_11.html), another person with the "right" to free speech, say "America NEEDS another 9/11" with no fallout whatsoever, yet others who merely suggest that we NEED to understand why 9/11 happened get bombarded as unpatriotic sympathizers?
So is Stu Bykofsky a terrorist now? He wants the death of innocent civilians, isn't that a terrorist? Or is it ONLY Muslims that are capable of such atrocities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun)?
So wait, when she says something incredibly racist or offensive to black people or women, you let it go, but when it's jews, it suddenly matters?
All of her many insulting comments towards minorities are equally insulting, wrong, and idiotic. That said, I still don't see why we have to continue to give her so much attention and publicity every time she says something racist. You want to take away her voice? Stop listening. Stop making threads about it. Because, remember, it's as good to be infamous as it is to be famous. And hell, infamy is probably the more lucrative of the two.
You have to be kidding me! If there is ANY one person on these ridiculous boards that defends the right of a person's speech and integrity it'd be me. Her criticisms of Islam and Muslims, which are wrong, falsified hate, and used to fuel this propaganda of fear are incredibly insulting to me as a Muslim. BUT, lets face facts. If someone in the media criticizes the human rights violations by Israel (which are staggering) they are defamed as Anti-Semitic. This psychotic heifer basically says that Jews (which according to the New Testament, which she adamantly says she follows, are the "people of G-D") and their religion, have NO meaning on this Earth. Where does that leave Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists, etc. in her book? If Jews are worthless, what are the rest of us? You can easily see why Iraqi civilians are expendable as "collateral damage" in their minds; they have no worth.
This is the kind of extremist mentality that she claims to fight. Ahmadinejad is out there, but he's not as bad as this witch.
BlackLantern
10-13-2007, 10:01 PM
I'm no fan of hers, but as long as we have a first amendment and people continue to purchase her books, she'll continue to spew venom and untill she breaks the law....thats her right....
bored
10-13-2007, 10:24 PM
Well, it is sorta ironic. An ungodly bias news source bashing someone known for being ungodly bias.
Maybe, instead of just being partisan fools, we should blame Coulter for her bias (plus the racism, of course), as well as blame the website for theirs.
But the website doesn't go out of its way to offend entire religions to increase book sales.
BlackLantern
10-14-2007, 09:21 AM
Being an ***hole isnt illegal...so she's safe....for now
Dorian Gray
10-14-2007, 11:05 AM
It's probably and act....not to draw attention away from criticism of the right but to sell her books and basicly herself(not in a sexual way). The only thing I like about her is that she speaks her mind and doesn't cares about what criticism she gets she rather fires back with her own point of view instead of wanting them silenced.
Like SB said, " In some ways she represents the best type of person in the worst possible way."
Addendum
10-14-2007, 11:08 AM
Well, when I think about the best person, political affiliation isn't on the list of attributes
Dorian Gray
10-14-2007, 11:17 AM
I do have a problem with her critics(partaining to this issue), they're usualy the ones trashing Christianity *cough* The Hype *cough*(:cwink: ) and one thing is said about Jews and suddenly its a terrible thing.
I don't agree with her by any means I'm just saying....it's hypocrtical when you..the critic have a similar prejudice.
BlackLantern
10-14-2007, 11:21 AM
I agree Dorian.....
Addendum
10-14-2007, 11:25 AM
I do have a problem with her critics(partaining to this issue), they're usualy the ones trashing Christianity *cough* The Hype *cough*(:cwink: ) and one thing is said about Jews and suddenly its a terrible thing.
I don't agree with her by any means I'm just saying....it's hypocrtical when you..the critic have a similar prejudice.
I despise all cults equally. Doesn't matter if it's abrahamic or not
Mr Sparkle
10-14-2007, 11:40 AM
The only thing I like about her is that she speaks her mind and doesn't cares about what criticism she gets she rather fires back with her own point of view instead of wanting them silenced.
you people find nobility in the strangest places.
Dorian Gray
10-14-2007, 11:44 AM
you people find nobility in the strangest places.
what's with "you people"?.:o
ShadowBoxing
10-14-2007, 01:20 PM
I despise all cults equally. Doesn't matter if it's abrahamic or not
Cults are religions which have a charismatic leader and exert an inordinate amount of control over their members. Christianity and Judaism fail both these credentials. They have a lot of parity and very little control over what their members think, believe and the lifestyle that they live.
comicgirl
10-14-2007, 04:21 PM
http://www.motleycrow.com/ImageHost/ann-coulter.jpg:cmad: :cmad:
Mr Sparkle
10-14-2007, 11:44 PM
what's with "you people"?.:o
I'm racist.
duh!
jaguarr
10-14-2007, 11:51 PM
what's with "you people"?.:o
I ask myself that very question every time I log on to this site. :o
jag
cookiva
10-14-2007, 11:54 PM
Oh, Ann Coulter is still relevant in society. I thought that the liberal media bias had zoned her out of the public eye.
I remember when Bill Maher had her on his show, and he tore her a new lady hole. She had no idea what was going on.
BlackLantern
10-14-2007, 11:58 PM
the funny thing is that Maher and Coulter are friends....I think they've boned once....
jaguarr
10-15-2007, 12:00 AM
the funny thing is that Maher and Coulter are friends....I think they've boned once....
Dude, no. That is nightmare inducing. Stop. :down
jag
Kritish
10-15-2007, 12:00 AM
What a hateful little *****, I'll show you what Coulter's ideal US would look like:
http://library.thinkquest.org/13831/media/hitler01.gif
We'd have bad ass uniforms though.
Did you guys read the name of her new book? "If Democrats had brains they'd be Republicans". If Republicans had brains they'd know a bathroom isn't the best place for hiding your secret gay sex meetings :o
cookiva
10-15-2007, 12:06 AM
the funny thing is that Maher and Coulter are friends....I think they've boned once....
I bet they did shrooms and spoke of their secret love for partisanship.
Why would anyone bone Coulter? That's life having sex with this:
http://www.fourhorsemen.biz/images/features/skeletor-statue/close.jpg
cookiva
10-15-2007, 12:10 AM
Who would you rather. He Man or Ann Coulter?
Kritish
10-15-2007, 12:12 AM
Who would you rather. He Man or Ann Coulter?
He man, more feminine.
He-Man :o He has the Power.
jaguarr
10-15-2007, 12:13 AM
He man, more feminine.
He-Man is also more realistic.
jag
MaskedManJRK
10-15-2007, 12:13 AM
the funny thing is that Maher and Coulter are friends....I think they've boned once....
I remember a bit from one of his stand-up shows, "You know, my friend Ann Coulter keeps telling me--*audience boos*--yeah, yeah, I know. But, she's very different when she's cumming."
:o
cookiva
10-15-2007, 12:14 AM
I read that Ann Coulter has a secret love for Paper Mache, and loves to have unprotected sex with penguins when paper mache'ing.
jaguarr
10-15-2007, 12:14 AM
Does Dew know that Ann Coulter has been defiling her penguins?
jag
I heard she is a whore :o A Conservative whore he actually has worse things in her mouth when Bill O'Rielly I'sn't in it.
MaskedManJRK
10-15-2007, 12:16 AM
I heard she is a whore :o A Conservative whore he actually has worse things in her mouth when Bill O'Rielly I'sn't in it.
:wow: What the f**k could be worse then O'Reilly?! :wow:
cookiva
10-15-2007, 12:17 AM
I heard another secret about Ann Coulter.
Her and Dew have been having a secret war underground over penguin ownership.
I heard another secret about Ann Coulter.
she has a dick.
Fixed.
:wow: What the f**k could be worse then O'Reilly?! :wow:
Ann Coulter's vocal Chords :wow:
cookiva
10-15-2007, 12:22 AM
Fixed.
No, after much investigation, I can let everyone know that Ann Coulter has no parts associated with a male or female.
Superman
10-15-2007, 02:23 AM
Cults are religions which have a charismatic leader and exert an inordinate amount of control over their members. Christianity and Judaism fail both these credentials. They have a lot of parity and very little control over what their members think, believe and the lifestyle that they live.
Now that's funny.
Superman
10-15-2007, 02:27 AM
http://www.motleycrow.com/ImageHost/ann-coulter.jpg:cmad: :cmad:What is that pic off her left shoulder of?:huh: :huh:
C.F. Kane
10-15-2007, 03:11 AM
A guy in a Nixon mask. Maybe it's her boyfriend preparing for foreplay.
Sloth7d
10-15-2007, 03:27 AM
I think he means to her left.
Sloth7d
10-15-2007, 03:30 AM
Fixed.
That's a secret?
Dorian Gray
10-15-2007, 07:13 AM
I ask myself that very question every time I log on to this site. :o
jag
I've been wondering about it since day one.....:o
Dorian Gray
10-15-2007, 07:14 AM
Dude, no. That is nightmare inducing. Stop. :down
jag
Yea since they're both glorified over-opinionated attention whores....them breeding is a scary thought.
BlackLantern
10-15-2007, 10:22 AM
Yea since they're both glorified over-opinionated attention whores....them breeding is a scary thought.
it is a bit frightening.......they are attention whores.....
bored
10-15-2007, 04:36 PM
I do have a problem with her critics(partaining to this issue), they're usualy the ones trashing Christianity *cough* The Hype *cough*(:cwink: ) and one thing is said about Jews and suddenly its a terrible thing.
I don't agree with her by any means I'm just saying....it's hypocrtical when you..the critic have a similar prejudice.
I don't bash Christianity as a religion or Christians as a whole. I only dislike fundamentalists who go out of their way to cause trouble for the rest of us.
Superman
10-16-2007, 07:27 PM
I think he means to her left.yeah, what he said. :o
lou2099
10-17-2007, 06:57 PM
What if they were really thirsty and been waiting a really long time? I think saying that would be justified.:cwink:
Kelly
10-17-2007, 07:41 PM
LMAO, damn you had to go back a hell of alot of pages for this one....
Mr Sparkle
10-17-2007, 10:28 PM
I do have a problem with her critics(partaining to this issue), they're usualy the ones trashing Christianity *cough* The Hype *cough*(:cwink: ) and one thing is said about Jews and suddenly its a terrible thing.
I don't agree with her by any means I'm just saying....it's hypocrtical when you..the critic have a similar prejudice.
:huh: are you confusing criticism with bigotry?:huh:
BlackLantern
10-17-2007, 10:29 PM
Crticism is one thing....referring to someone as an "evil nazi whore" is something different alltogether.....and no, they are not the same thing
Addendum
10-17-2007, 10:31 PM
It's not like there are any surviving Nazi's that would complain
BlackLantern
10-17-2007, 10:32 PM
I'm just talking about the vitrol that gets thrown her way. I personally think she is misdirected but entertaining....but she is certainly free to say and write what she pleases......
Addendum
10-17-2007, 10:35 PM
As are people free to criticize her and mock her. And if someone wishes her dead, wishes don't have power, outside the 1,001 arabian nights
Mr Sparkle
10-17-2007, 10:35 PM
Crticism is one thing....referring to someone as an "evil nazi whore" is something different alltogether.....and no, they are not the same thing
but you're confusing things again.
she is hated BECAUSE she is a bigot, or at least she "plays" a bigot on TV.
she can't say that Christians want Jews to be perfected because
it implies she is some sort of spokesman/woman for Christianity
It Implies Jews are Imperfect.
you see, she could have phrased her idea more intelligently ( as I have no doubt, she is capable of) but she CHOSE to go the route of oversimplification, she had a sound byte go terribly wrong and I personally have no qualms with calling her a "nazi whore" she said worse stuff about the middle east, but sadly there's a lot of people secretly agreeing with her on that.
this one went wrong.
but me saying that I think Christianity and all organized religions range from the Far Fetched to the ridiculous and how much I hate some of their believers actions is not comparable, not in the slightest, to what Ann Said.
Obi-Ron
10-17-2007, 10:44 PM
I want some mother****ing ice tea. Not regular ice tea, mother****ing ice tea.
http://www.poster.net/ice-t/ice-t-photo-xl-ice-t-6210511.jpg
C.F. Kane
10-18-2007, 05:10 PM
I think he means to her left.
Everything is left of her. Bah-dum Ching!
....
And to answer his question, that's a close-up of the famous photo taken of a South Vietnamese soldier preparing to execute a captured VC operative during the Vietnam War.
SoulManX
12-05-2007, 11:45 AM
Little Rock, Ark -- As governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee aggressively pushed for the early release of a convicted rapist despite being warned by numerous women that the convict had sexually assaulted them or their family members, and would likely strike again. The convict went on to rape and murder at least one other woman.
Confidential Arkansas state government records, including letters from these women, obtained by the Huffington Post and revealed publicly for the first time, directly contradict the version of events now being put forward by Huckabee.
While on the campaign trail, Huckabee has claimed that he supported the 1999 release of Wayne Dumond because, at the time, he had no good reason to believe that the man represented a further threat to the public. Thanks to Huckabee's intervention, conducted in concert with a right-wing tabloid campaign on Dumond's behalf, Dumond was let out of prison 25 years before his sentence would have ended.
"There's nothing any of us could ever do," Huckabee said Sunday on CNN when asked to reflect on the horrific outcome caused by the prisoner's release. "None of us could've predicted what [Dumond] could've done when he got out."
But the confidential files obtained by the Huffington Post show that Huckabee was provided letters from several women who had been sexually assaulted by Dumond and who indeed predicted that he would rape again - and perhaps murder - if released.
In a letter that has never before been made public, one of Dumond's victims warned: "I feel that if he is released it is only a matter of time before he commits another crime and fear that he will not leave a witness to testify against him the next time." Before Dumond was granted parole at Huckabee's urging, records show that Huckabee's office received a copy of this letter from Arkansas' parole board.
The woman later wrote directly to Huckabee about having been raped by Dumond. In a letter obtained by the Huffington Post, she said that Dumond had raped her while holding a butcher knife to her throat, and while her then-3-year-old daughter lay in bed next to her. Also included in the files sent to Huckabee's office was a police report in which Dumond confessed to the rape. Dumond was not charged in that particular case because he later refused to sign the confession and because the woman was afraid to press charges.
Huckabee kept these and other documents secret because they were politically damaging, according to a former aide who worked for him in Arkansas. The aide has made the records available to the Huffington Post, deeply troubled by Huckabee's repeated claims that he had no reason to believe Dumond would commit other violent crimes upon his release from prison. The aide also believes that Huckabee, for political reasons, has deliberately attempted to cover up his knowledge of Dumond's other sexual assaults.
"There were no letters sent to the governor's office from any rape victims," Huckabee campaign spokesperson Alice Stewart said on Tuesday when contacted by the Huffington Post.
Subsequently, however, the campaign provided a former senior aide of Huckabee's who did remember reading at least one of the letters.
But Huckabee and his aides insist that his receipt of the letters is irrelevant because the decision to release Dumond was made by the parole board. Huckabee on Tuesday again denied allegations by former parole board members that he lobbied them to release Dumond. "I did not ask them to do anything," he said. "I did indicate [Dumond's case] was sitting at my desk and I was giving thought to it."
Charmaine Yoest, a senior adviser to the Huckabee campaign, told the Huffington Post: "I think what should be considered here is that if he [Huckabee] could have changed what happened, he would. His whole life has been about respect for life and understanding the value of each individual life. Nobody regrets the loss of life here more than him."
In 1996, as a newly elected governor who had received strong support from the Christian right, Huckabee was under intense pressure from conservative activists to pardon Dumond or commute his sentence. The activists claimed that Dumond's initial imprisonment and various other travails were due to the fact that Ashley Stevens, the high school cheerleader he had raped, was a distant cousin of Bill Clinton, and the daughter of a major Clinton campaign contributor.
The case for Dumond's innocence was championed in Arkansas by Jay Cole, a Baptist minister and radio host who was a close friend of the Huckabee family. It also became a cause for New York Post columnist Steve Dunleavy, who repeatedly argued for Dumond's release, calling his conviction "a travesty of justice." On Sept. 21, 1999, Dunleavy wrote a column headlined "Clinton's Biggest Crime - Left Innocent Man In Jail For 14 Years":
"Dumond, now 52, was given conditional parole yesterday in Arkansas after having being sentenced to 50 years in jail for the rape of Clinton's cousin," Dunleavy wrote. "That rape never happened."
More here
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/04/documents-expose-huckabee_n_75362.html
ShadowBoxing
12-05-2007, 11:46 AM
He only released him so Chuck Norris could kill him with his bare hands.
Wilhelm-Scream
12-05-2007, 11:59 AM
Hmmm....sort of reminds me of how George W. Bush was known for breaking the record for executions in Texas and yet for some O.D.D. reason, he decided to accept the recommendation of the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles to commute the death sentence to Henry Lee Lucas to life imprisonment.
He wouldn't even spare a totally reformed, totally repentant "Born Again" Christian lady, but he spared HENRY. LEE. LUCAS.
These guys seem to have a soft spot for rapist/murderers.
jaguarr
12-05-2007, 11:59 AM
Huckabee is a dirtbag.
jag
ShadowBoxing
12-05-2007, 12:02 PM
Well, although it's a little early to speculate, you never know, this guy could be Mike Huckabee's Willie Horton.
Wilhelm-Scream
12-05-2007, 12:05 PM
Huck could be his body guard and Wayne could be his long lost pal.
Memphis Slim
12-05-2007, 12:06 PM
No Republican can win on these boards. If a Governor sends guys to the chair, he's a dirtbag. If he let's a guy out who he thinks is fit to be free, he's screwed.
How many guys were sent to the chair that may have really been innocent? It cuts both ways.
Huck made a mistake. How he answers this will be key. If we want a mistake free President, we all better just stay home.
SoulManX
12-05-2007, 12:12 PM
No Republican can win on these boards. If a Governor sends guys to the chair, he's a dirtbag. If he let's a guy out who he thinks is fit to be free, he's screwed.
How many guys were sent to the chair that may have really been innocent? It cuts both ways.
Huck made a mistake. How he answers this will be key. If we want a mistake free President, we all better just stay home.
Sorry but this dude was not innocent...and true we are all human but when the victim and the families of victim plead to keep someone like him of the street the Gov should listen.
Steve Rogers
12-05-2007, 12:24 PM
This guy looks worse and worse everyday. Huckabee sucks :down:
Memphis Slim
12-05-2007, 12:31 PM
Sorry but this dude was not innocent...and true we are all human but when the victim and the families of victim plead to keep someone like him of the street the Gov should listen.
If Huck was Democrat you wouldn't be saying that and you know it. A Governor some times does what he thinks is right. He can't always listen to families. The family will always opt to kill the bum.
Do I think he should have let the guy out? No. But if he did, it must have been based on what he read or saw.
He made a mistake.
SoulManX
12-05-2007, 12:39 PM
If Huck was Democrat you wouldn't be saying that and you know it. A Governor some times does what he thinks is right. He can't always listen to families. The family will always opt to kill the bum.
Do I think he should have let the guy out? No. But if he did, it must have been based on what he read or saw.
He made a mistake.
First up sparky I'm a Rep supporter I just don't wave it around like some badge. Second if I don't care what party he reps he is the Governor. He has to keep people like Dumond in jail to rot.
kainedamo
12-05-2007, 01:07 PM
I never really understood this. All I know is that in society in general, there seems to be a weird unspoken rule among some people that rape victims are liars or they deserved it, and that rapists aren't as bad as other criminals.
Its mad, but its definately there.
ShadowBoxing
12-05-2007, 01:33 PM
No Republican can win on these boards. If a Governor sends guys to the chair, he's a dirtbag. If he let's a guy out who he thinks is fit to be free, he's screwed.
How many guys were sent to the chair that may have really been innocent? It cuts both ways.
Huck made a mistake. How he answers this will be key. If we want a mistake free President, we all better just stay home.
Willie Horton was probably a mistake too, but it cost Dukakis an election. I can almost guarantee you Mike Huckabee wasn't doing what he did maliciously, and I'm sure he's not a dirtbag, at least not because of this. That said, this kind of 'mistake' can and has cost politicians elections, and I think you're seeing first hand in this thread why that is the case.
jaguarr
12-05-2007, 02:02 PM
Huckabee is a dirtbag because he lies about tax hike misappropriations. This just adds to his dirtbagginess. And I'd say the same thing about him if he was a Democrat. A dirtbag is a dirtbag.
jag
cookiva
12-05-2007, 02:25 PM
If Huck was Democrat you wouldn't be saying that and you know it. A Governor some times does what he thinks is right. He can't always listen to families. The family will always opt to kill the bum.
Do I think he should have let the guy out? No. But if he did, it must have been based on what he read or saw.
He made a mistake.
If Huck was a real democrat, he wouldnt do it in the first place. Shut up.
YsoSerious
12-05-2007, 02:44 PM
If this article came from Arkansas are you sure the rapist they were talking about wasn't Bill Clinton?
No Republican can win on these boards. If a Governor sends guys to the chair, he's a dirtbag. If he let's a guy out who he thinks is fit to be free, he's screwed.
How many guys were sent to the chair that may have really been innocent? It cuts both ways.
Huck made a mistake. How he answers this will be key. If we want a mistake free President, we all better just stay home.
Memphis Slim:
You are 100% correct. Any one who doesn't believe in the following can get a break here:
1. Global Warming.
2. 9/11 Conspiricy
3. Republican :down
4. Bush stole the Election
5. Bush is a traitor
6. Bush is an Idiot
7. Everything is Bush's Fault.
8. Islamic Terrorists want to give hugs
9. Democrats are intellegent.
10. Bush is an Idiot.
You will be beaten up over and over again. Once these people grow up, get a real job, really see what their taxes are going to. Mommy and Daddy don't pay for everything, then they will reverse their positions and see without blinders on. I'm Voting for Huckabee, he's the most honest person on the Campain trail and he supports the Fairtax.
cookiva
12-05-2007, 02:49 PM
Memphis Slim:
You are 100% correct. No one who doesn't believe in the following can get a break here:
1. Global Warming.
2. 9/11 Conspiricy
3. Republican :down
4. Bush stole the Election
5. Bush is a traitor
6. Bush is an Idiot
7. It's Bush's Fault.
8. Islamic Terrorists wants to give hugs
9. Democrats are intellegent.
10. Bush is an Idiot.
You will be beaten up over and over again. Once these people grow up, get a real job, really see what their taxes are going to. Mommy and Daddy don't pay for everything, then they will reverse their positions and see without blinders on. I'm Voting for Huckabee, he's the most honest person on the Campain trail and he supports the Fairtax.
Whaaaa? You...whaaa?
Bush is a traitor. It is Bush's fault that we are in Iraq and nearly in Iran. He is an idiot. We are smart.
And you said Bush is an idiot twice. I wonder who the real idiot is...
Whaaaa? You...whaaa?
Bush is a traitor. It is Bush's fault that we are in Iraq and nearly in Iran. He is an idiot. We are smart.
And you said Bush is an idiot twice. I wonder who the real idiot is...
I know I said that twice.
cookiva
12-05-2007, 02:55 PM
So let me get this straight.
1. You dont believe in global warming? Just so you know, its 75 degrees here in Dallas, and its December.
2. You dont believe that Bush is a traitor to the USA by leading us into a war, and killing innocent men and women.
Those two questions for now should hold you for awhile.
YsoSerious
12-05-2007, 02:56 PM
So let me get this straight.
1. You dont believe in global warming? Just so you know, its 75 degrees here in Dallas, and its December.
2. You dont believe that Bush is a traitor to the USA by leading us into a war, and killing innocent men and women.
Those two questions for now should hold you for awhile.
It's about 15 in Chicago so don't tell me about that global warming crap
kainedamo
12-05-2007, 02:57 PM
Man, people that don't believe in global warming are strange. Where does all of the gasses us humans pump into the air every single day go? Do you really think it has zero effect on our atmosphere? What happens to the gasses?
Memphis Slim
12-05-2007, 03:02 PM
Memphis Slim:
You are 100% correct. Any one who doesn't believe in the following can get a break here:
1. Global Warming.
2. 9/11 Conspiricy
3. Republican :down
4. Bush stole the Election
5. Bush is a traitor
6. Bush is an Idiot
7. Everything is Bush's Fault.
8. Islamic Terrorists want to give hugs
9. Democrats are intellegent.
10. Bush is an Idiot.
You will be beaten up over and over again. Once these people grow up, get a real job, really see what their taxes are going to. Mommy and Daddy don't pay for everything, then they will reverse their positions and see without blinders on. I'm Voting for Huckabee, he's the most honest person on the Campain trail and he supports the Fairtax.
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2930375/2/istockphoto_2930375_blue_ribbon.jpg :woot: :bh:
Wilhelm-Scream
12-05-2007, 03:04 PM
Memphis Slim:
You are 100% correct. No one who doesn't believe in the following can get a break here:
1. Global Warming.
2. 9/11 Conspiricy
3. Republican :down
4. Bush didn't steal the Election
5. Bush isn't a traitor
6. Bush isn't an Idiot
7. It isn't Bush's Fault.
8. Islamic Terrorists don't wants to give hugs
9. Democrats are unintellegent.
10. Bush isn't an Idiot.
You will be beaten up over and over again. Once these people grow up, get a real job, really see what their taxes are going to. Mommy and Daddy don't pay for everything, then they will reverse their positions and see without blinders on. I'm Voting for Huckabee, he's the most honest person on the Campain trail and he supports the Fairtax.
This was runner up for "Stupidest post I've seen on the Hype this year".
I...started composing a post to enumerate the reasons, but it's so monumentally stupid that it would be too time consuming while offering no reward.
So just go home with the pride of knowing, you're extremely good at what you do.
:(
cookiva
12-05-2007, 03:06 PM
Once these people grow up, get a real job, really see what their taxes are going to. Mommy and Daddy don't pay for everything, then they will reverse their positions and see without blinders on. I'm Voting for Huckabee, he's the most honest person on the Campain trail and he supports the Fairtax.
Every part of this is ridiculous, btw. I have grown up. I do have a real job. I do pay taxes, yet YOU OF ALL PEOPLE think that its alright to come across as if you are saying that IM AN IDIOT because I support intelligent candidates. Im sorry if I like people who wont lead us blindly into a war we shouldnt be in. Im sorry if COMMON SENSE is something I think our president should have.
Memphis Slim
12-05-2007, 03:07 PM
Man, people that don't believe in global warming are strange. Where does all of the gasses us humans pump into the air every single day go? Do you really think it has zero effect on our atmosphere? What happens to the gasses?
http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/20/57/23245720.jpghttp://members.aol.com/plittle/Eating_Beans_BandW.jpg
http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/images/chili.JPG
http://www.goodnessdirect.co.uk/detail/102431b.jpghttp://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/pwo0031l.jpg
Yep...we let off gases we can't control!!
So let me get this straight.
1. You dont believe in global warming? Just so you know, its 75 degrees here in Dallas, and its December.
2. You dont believe that Bush is a traitor to the USA by leading us into a war, and killing innocent men and women.
1. Those two questions for now should hold you for awhile.
Do you know what the hottest year in recorded history is?
1934, not 2007
One day it's warm and you think that that's global warming? Why is Mars getting warmer? I guess it's the Rover's fault, it's probably a HUMMER! Do you know when the last time we had any change in average Global Temperature? Over a decade ago
2. The United States had every International Legal right to go into Iraq. Read the 17 UN Resolustion states the case for any UN member to do so. Don't talk about it again until you read this. Thanks.
kainedamo
12-05-2007, 03:10 PM
Real clever response, Slim.
Anyway, Slim, why do you always put things into a perspective of "us vs them". Doing that only shoehorns people in debates and then it just becomes mud slinging matches. Most people here respect intelligence. If you are gonna talk politics, but talk complete nonsense, we will call you out on it.
Hippy Hunter is a republican but I respect the hell out the guy and think he's one the smartest guys here.
YsoSerious
12-05-2007, 03:11 PM
I do believe in global warming but I get upset when nobody's telling China or Russia to buy expensive environmentally friendly vehicles or separate their garbage into 15 different containers.Are we the only country in the world thats hurting the environment.And I think Bush is an idiot too, but instead of constantly repeating that I want to hear a Democrat that has a solution.All I hear is Bush started the war and is stupid.Seems to me after 9-11 the majority of America was thinking lets just drop a bomb on somebody and Iraq made sense at the time.The world is a better and safer place without Sadam Hussein. If Adolf Hitler were to rise to power today America wouldn't have the backbone to stand up to him because too many people were brainwashed in the 60s and 70s that war was evil.
Its time for America to quit *****in about who got us there and work together to solve it and get us out.
Memphis Slim
12-05-2007, 03:12 PM
Real clever response, Slim.
Anyway, Slim, why do you always put things into a perspective of "us vs them". Doing that only shoehorns people in debates and then it just becomes mud slinging matches. Most people here respect intelligence. If you are gonna talk politics, but talk complete nonsense, we will call you out on it.
Hippy Hunter is a republican but I respect the hell out the guy and think he's one the smartest guys here.
Hippy may be Republican...but he's not "conservative". there's a difference.
cookiva
12-05-2007, 03:23 PM
Do you know what the hottest year in recorded history is?
1934, not 2007
One day it's warm and you think that that's global warming?
One day??? ONE DAY? Dude, we had one cold day. Its been atleast 70 for the past few weeks, with one cold day stuck in the middle. Ill be lucky if I can wear a nice sweater on Xmas!
2. The United States had every International Legal right to go into Iraq. Read the 17 UN Resolustion states the case for any UN member to do so. Don't talk about it again until you read this. Thanks.
So because we have the right to, means we can do it. I have the right to call you names till the cows come home, but does that mean its alright? I have the right to take a dump on my living room floor, but does that mean that I should? Dude, get your ass out of your head and think for a spilt second. We have sent thousands of our own men and women to DIE. Its not a video game. Its not a comic book where we can retcon Iraq. They are never coming back.
kainedamo
12-05-2007, 03:25 PM
Do you know what the hottest year in recorded history is?
1934, not 2007
One day it's warm and you think that that's global warming? Why is Mars getting warmer? I guess it's the Rover's fault, it's probably a HUMMER! Do you know when the last time we had any change in average Global Temperature? Over a decade ago
You neglected to answer my question about what effects the gasses we pump into the air have. Do you really think its none?
Why are thousands of UN assigned scientists who have been working on this for over a decade all agree that global warming exists?
2. The United States had every International Legal right to go into Iraq. Read the 17 UN Resolustion states the case for any UN member to do so. Don't talk about it again until you read this. Thanks.
The legality is one thing. The morality of it is another. Was starting a war in Iraq the right choice? Yes or no. How long did it take for you to accept that there were NO weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? And when you came to accept this fact, what excuse did you use to justify the invasion after that?
I do believe in global warming but I get upset when nobody's telling China or Russia to buy expensive environmentally friendly vehicles or separate their garbage into 15 different containers.Are we the only country in the world thats hurting the environment.And I think Bush is an idiot too, but instead of constantly repeating that I want to hear a Democrat that has a solution.All I hear is Bush started the war and is stupid.Seems to me after 9-11 the majority of America was thinking lets just drop a bomb on somebody and Iraq made sense at the time.The world is a better and safer place without Sadam Hussein. If Adolf Hitler were to rise to power today America wouldn't have the backbone to stand up to him because too many people were brainwashed in the 60s and 70s that war was evil.
Its time for America to quit *****in about who got us there and work together to solve it and get us out.
You are 100% Correct! :up: I hate hearing all this crap about Global Warming like it is America's Fault but China's CO2 emmissions are 1000x worse. In one year alone they put out the equalivent to 10 Billion SUVs running 10,000 a year. But nobody is tell them to quit with the Poluting. Bush, I think trusted in Rummesfield too much and that got us into hot water in Iraq. But things are going 100% better over there and nobody is talking about it. You are correct about the Hitler thing, but I think that is exactly where Iran is right now. They hosted a Holucaust denile conference ut says it wants to start a 2nd Holucaust! So in one hand they say that it never happened then in the other hand they want to do in again!
No Republican can win on these boards. If a Governor sends guys to the chair, he's a dirtbag. If he let's a guy out who he thinks is fit to be free, he's screwed.
How many guys were sent to the chair that may have really been innocent? It cuts both ways.
Huck made a mistake. How he answers this will be key. If we want a mistake free President, we all better just stay home.
I love the way you call him Huck like you are old buddies. :whatever:
Anyhow...isn't it convenient that this comes out as soon as Huckabee takes the lead in Iowa. The Giulliani team must've been working overtime on this one. But sadly, it is a bit inaccurate. Huckabee pushed for his release, granted (and he now acknowledges that as a mistake. I know, I know, Obama never makes any mistakes but alas we can't all be perfect :whatever:), but in the end, the governor has no control over who is released on parole. The parole was determined by the state board of parole, all of whom in this case were appointed by Bill Clinton and Jim Guy Tucker, both of whom are Democrats.
Knowing facts instead of blindly jumping to whichever side you are partisan towards is fun. :up:
cookiva
12-05-2007, 03:36 PM
Which is why I really dont care about this one. I know it wasnt Huckabee who pardoned him.
kainedamo
12-05-2007, 03:36 PM
I hate hearing all this crap about Global Warming like it is America's Fault but China's CO2 emmissions are 1000x worse. In one year alone they put out the equalivent to 10 Billion SUVs running 10,000 a year.
I COMPLETELY agree with you here. We really need to hold China accountable for the damage they're doing to the environment and to their own country with their terrible polution. China's own people have to wear gas masks in some places! But...
But nobody is tell them to quit with the Poluting.
I disagree with you here. I think you'd find plenty of environmentalists that would have China at the top of their list of things that need to change to improve the environment. If Bush is so great, when was the last time he made an effort to co-operate with western countries to make a real change, or tell China to change their polluting ways?
But things are going 100% better over there and nobody is talking about it. You are correct about the Hitler thing, but I think that is exactly where Iran is right now. They hosted a Holucaust denile conference ut says it wants to start a 2nd Holucaust! So in one hand they say that it never happened then in the other hand they want to do in again!
Woah, woah, hold on! Don't you think "100% better" is an exaggeration, if indeed things have improved at all? What about the massive amount of job loss in Iraq, and the weekly bombings? They didn't have weekly bombings under Hussein did they? And did the Iraqi people ask for us to invade? No. America invaded for its own selfish reasons and don't dellude yourself into believing otherwise.
And saying Iran wants to create a second Holocaust is a little weak. There is absolutely nothing to back that up.
DarkJester
12-05-2007, 03:38 PM
I do not <3 Huckabee. o_o
We're in debt up to our asses to China. Literally billions of dollars. Do you really think the US government is going to have the balls to tell their debtors "Hey, quit polluting."?
kainedamo
12-05-2007, 03:40 PM
Exactly. Politics isn't about what is right or wrong, its about who has the money. Its why the Queen of England licked the ass of the King of Saudi Arabia.
But we're getting off topic Kaine. Start a thread about China's pollution if you want to discuss it.
[quote=kainedamo;13435434]Why are thousands of UN assigned scientists who have been working on this for over a decade all agree that global warming exists?
quote]
What about the Thousands of scientists that disagree with the UN's findings? What about the Founder of the Weather Channel coming out against Global warming. What about Global Cooling? That was all the rage in the 70's! All the scientists agreed in that back then. Global Warming is a political agenga. Nothing more.
kainedamo
12-05-2007, 03:42 PM
Sure, sure.
Deleting this post. Once again, if you want to discuss climate change go to one of the countless threads on the Hype about it.
Thanks,
---Matt
kainedamo
12-05-2007, 03:44 PM
This one too. Go to the Global Warming thread.
---Matt
sinewave
12-05-2007, 03:45 PM
None of this has to do with Mike Huckabee releasing a serial rapist. Stay on topic :cmad:
I love the way you call him Huck like you are old buddies. :whatever:
Anyhow...isn't it convenient that this comes out as soon as Huckabee takes the lead in Iowa. The Giulliani team must've been working overtime on this one. But sadly, it is a bit inaccurate. Huckabee pushed for his release, granted (and he now acknowledges that as a mistake. I know, I know, Obama never makes any mistakes but alas we can't all be perfect :whatever:), but in the end, the governor has no control over who is released on parole. The parole was determined by the state board of parole, all of whom in this case were appointed by Bill Clinton and Jim Guy Tucker, both of whom are Democrats.
Knowing facts instead of blindly jumping to whichever side you are partisan towards is fun. :up:
Matt, you the man. Thank you for your insight.
Memphis Slim
12-05-2007, 03:50 PM
Post it in the Global Warming thread.
Memphis Slim
12-05-2007, 03:55 PM
But we're getting off topic Kaine. Start a thread about China's pollution if you want to discuss it.
A lot of threads get off topic...... then they get back on.
Why do you keep power trippin'?
How did we get on "Global Warming?? But since we are, I just love pulling this out again.....
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/eibessential2/april_28__1975_newsweek___the_cooling_world___by_p eter_gwynne.guest.print.html
http://www.denisdutton.com/newsweek.gif
http://t0.extreme-dm.com/c.g?tag=dldsite&j=n
Memphis:
Thank you for that, Let's stay on topic. I guess there is a global warming thread somewhere.
Huckabee made a mistake by condoning his release. But there are a lot of Democratic Judges that have made similar mistakes. Bill Clinton pardoned Drug Dealers in his last hours in office. No one ever brings that up.
Memphis Slim
12-05-2007, 03:57 PM
Anyway Huck, would get my vote inspite of this mistake. He made a jugment call. It's backfired years later. I think he'll think twice if confronted with that again.
cookiva
12-05-2007, 03:57 PM
Bill Clinton pardoned Drug Dealers in his last hours in office. No one ever brings that up.
2 things. First, everyone brings that up. Second, which is worse, a drug dealer or a serial rapist.
A lot of threads get off topic...... then they get back on.
Why do you keep power trippin'?
Every moderator has this own little pet peeves. EXCELSIORs are nude pictures, Hunters are opinion nazis, mine are annoying, pointless, border-line homoerotic pictures of Peyton Manning that slow down load time and off topic discussion. Especially when we have a thread for it.
sinewave
12-05-2007, 03:58 PM
matt, chill the **** out, dude. if the worst problem you have is people straying off topic then i'd say you don't have too much of a problem. if you're gonna edit my posts, please at least attribute it to yourself. please put my post back. there's no need to delete everything i posted just because it was off topic. grow up, dude.
jaguarr
12-05-2007, 03:59 PM
Every moderator has this own little pet peeves. EXCELSIORs are nude pictures, Hunters are opinion nazis, mine are annoying, pointless, border-line homoerotic pictures of Peyton Manning that slow down load time and off topic discussion. Especially when we have a thread for it.
Hesitates to go find the "Homoerotic Pictures Of Peyton Manning" thread.
jag
matt, chill the **** out, dude. if the worst problem you have is people straying off topic then i'd say you don't have too much of a problem. if you're gonna edit my posts, please at least attribute it to yourself. please put my post back. there's no need to delete everything i posted just because it was off topic. grow up, dude.
your post invokes a response from Celldog, Celldogs post invokes a response from you, your post invokes ten responses of :up: and ten responses of counter claims. The ten counter claim responses invoke ten responses of :up: and counter claims. This thread snowballs to the point where it is no longer a discussion of a breaking news story. Do you follow the trend?
2 things. First, everyone brings that up. Second, which is worse, a drug dealer or a serial rapist.
Funny, I never really hear about any liberal bringing it up, only Conservative Talk show hosts. If I'm wrong, :whatever: I'm wrong. But Huckabee is the most honest candidate in either party. I agree with his stance on the issues. HUCKABEE 08!:grin:
2 things. First, everyone brings that up. Second, which is worse, a drug dealer or a serial rapist.
Without a doubt the rapist, but again, Huckabee did not pardon him. The parole board granted him early release. A parole board that was approinted by Bill Clinton. This is maybe the one time Republican's "Bill Clinton did it" argument holds water. Let them have it. :csad:
sinewave
12-05-2007, 04:01 PM
your post invokes a response to Celldog, Celldogs post invokes a response from you, your post invokes ten responses of :up: and ten responses of counter claims. The ten counter claim responses invoke ten responses of :up: and counter claims. This thread snowballs to the point where it is no longer a discussion of a breaking news story. Do you follow the trend?
then tell me to take back on topic, but don't just go and delete something i put thought and time into. you left slim's huge post with that article in there. i'll gladly take it to a PM situation with slim, but what you did was uncool, especially changing my post without signing it yourself. you're not impressing me much as a mod, i gotta tell you.
cookiva
12-05-2007, 04:02 PM
Funny, I never really hear about any liberal bringing it up, only Conservative Talk show hosts. If I'm wrong, :whatever: I'm wrong. But Huckabee is the most honest candidate in either party. I agree with his stance on the issues. HUCKABEE 08!:grin:
Most honest? Try Kucinich. Hell, try Paul, even Richardson. Im not saying that they are angles, but they are more honest than Huckabee.
Funny, I never really hear about any liberal bringing it up, only Conservative Talk show hosts. If I'm wrong, :whatever: I'm wrong. But Huckabee is the most honest candidate in either party. I agree with his stance on the issues. HUCKABEE 08!:grin:
But the thing is, why should we hear it? How do Bill Clinton's short comings justify another candidate's short comings? Two wrongs don't make a right. It is just like when people respond to "Obama is inexperienced" with "Well so was Bush!" It doesn't justify the fact that Obama lacks the credentials to be president.
then tell me to take back on topic, but don't just go and delete something i put thought and time into. you left slim's huge post with that article in there. i'll gladly take it to a PM situation with slim, but what you did was uncool, especially changing my post without signing it yourself. you're not impressing me much as a mod, i gotta tell you.
I did too delete Slim's post. I was simply in another thread for a few minutes. Can't be two places at once. And I figured it was implied being as I signed the two or three above you.
sinewave
12-05-2007, 04:06 PM
I did too delete Slim's post. I was simply in another thread for a few minutes. Can't be two places at once. And I figured it was implied being as I signed the two or three above you.
still not cool. if a thread goes off topic a little bit, that's not a big deal. don't be such a post nazi. if i'm in an open discussion with someone and it's not bothering anyone else, what does it matter? i've never seen another mod do what you're doing here.
cookiva
12-05-2007, 04:07 PM
You do realize that you are the only person making a deal of it. He deleted Celldogs posts, but he isnt whining.
still not cool. if a thread goes off topic a little bit, that's not a big deal. don't be such a post nazi. if i'm in an open discussion with someone and it's not bothering anyone else, what does it matter? i've never seen another mod do what you're doing here.
Like I said, every moderator has their own pet peeves and off topic discussion drives me crazy. If you want to discuss global warming go to a thread about it. I've already explained how one post can snowball into 3 pages. Don't ruin the discussion for people who want to talk about Huckabee's role in this case.
sinewave
12-05-2007, 04:10 PM
You do realize that you are the only person making a deal of it. He deleted Celldogs posts, but he isnt whining.
because celldog copies and pastes his posts from other sources. i type all my stuff out. i just don't like people abusing their power and changing my words without attributing them to themselves, especially over something like a mod's pet peeve that's not affecting anyone else.
But the thing is, why should we hear it? How do Bill Clinton's short comings justify another candidate's short comings? Two wrongs don't make a right. It is just like when people respond to "Obama is inexperienced" with "Well so was Bush!" It doesn't justify the fact that Obama lacks the credentials to be president.
But Bush was Governer of Texas for for 2 terms. Obama has been in the Senate since 04 with the last year campaining. To me it is not the Same. People crap on Bush for "doing drugs" when he was younger, but it is cool that Obama did it. I see what you mean. But my point is Bill Clinton made mistakes and we don't hear about it. A republican makes a mistake and it's front page news. I'm used to the double sided issues though.
because celldog copies and pastes his posts from other sources. i type all my stuff out. i just don't like people abusing their power and changing my words without attributing them to themselves, especially over something like a mod's pet peeve that's not affecting anyone else.
But I've already explained to you how it could. Half the posts on the last page had to do with global warming in a non-global warming thread. One post snowballs into three pages.
sinewave
12-05-2007, 04:12 PM
Like I said, every moderator has their own pet peeves and off topic discussion drives me crazy. If you want to discuss global warming go to a thread about it. I've already explained how one post can snowball into 3 pages. Don't ruin the discussion for people who want to talk about Huckabee's role in this case.
i won't beat this to death anymore than it already has been, but please, in the future, give me the chance to edit my own posts and don't change my words without signing it yourself. it's common decency.
Denny67
12-05-2007, 04:12 PM
But we're getting off topic Kaine. Start a thread about China's pollution if you want to discuss it.
I think with a lot of these political debates people are going to pull facts and opinions out as to the legitimacy or the illegitimacy of whom they are backing or are opposed to. This by default means that topics are going to stray a bit from time to time. From what I have seen they tend to wander right back where they supposed to be all on their own.
With a board of this size one would think that there is a little more room for flexibility in these types of discussions. As a mod on an official NFL site myself I understand the need to somewhat keep things on track and keep things somewhat clean. But in this case I would respectfully ask why some of you guys feel the overwhelming need to be so darn stringent and completely over moderate at times? I mean things arte not even remotely out of hand in this thread or others I have seen threatened to be lock or straight up locked out.
What gives?
On that note
Huckabee is a Christian whack job who thinks the earth is 5000 years old… good choice Huck fans. :oldrazz:
But Bush was Governer of Texas for for 2 terms. Obama has been in the Senate since 04 with the last year campaining. To me it is not the Same. People crap on Bush for "doing drugs" when he was younger, but it is cool that Obama did it. I see what you mean. But my point is Bill Clinton made mistakes and we don't hear about it. A republican makes a mistake and it's front page news. I'm used to the double sided issues though.
I know the Bush/Obama analogy is stupid, that was the point.
I think we hear about Clinton's mistakes a lot. Keep in mind, he has been out of office for 8 years. Its not exactly practical to report his shortcomings in this kind of article. If something like this happened while Clinton was in office and newspapers ignored it, you'd have a point. But news is CURRENT events. Bill Clinton is no longer current.
Denny67
12-05-2007, 04:14 PM
Ahhh I see.
I have seen the replies above. :whatever:
No need to respond to mine.
HUCKABEE 08! Yeah the Fairtax!
i won't beat this to death anymore than it already has been, but please, in the future, give me the chance to edit my own posts and don't change my words without signing it yourself. it's common decency.
I didn't edit your words without signing it. I deleted your words without signing it. Don't make it out like I commited plagarism. :oldrazz: But very well, I shall ask you from now on.
sinewave
12-05-2007, 04:15 PM
But Bush was Governer of Texas for for 2 terms. Obama has been in the Senate since 04 with the last year campaining. To me it is not the Same. People crap on Bush for "doing drugs" when he was younger, but it is cool that Obama did it. I see what you mean. But my point is Bill Clinton made mistakes and we don't hear about it. A republican makes a mistake and it's front page news. I'm used to the double sided issues though.
off topic. take it to another thread.
Armand Z Trip
12-05-2007, 04:15 PM
Without a doubt the rapist, but again, Huckabee did not pardon him. The parole board granted him early release. A parole board that was approinted by Bill Clinton. This is maybe the one time Republican's "Bill Clinton did it" argument holds water. Let them have it. :csad:
In 1996, as a newly elected governor who had received strong support from the Christian right, Huckabee was under intense pressure from conservative activists to pardon Dumond or commute his sentence. The activists claimed that Dumond's initial imprisonment and various other travails were due to the fact that Ashley Stevens, the high school cheerleader he had raped, was a distant cousin of Bill Clinton, and the daughter of a major Clinton campaign contributor.
The case for Dumond's innocence was championed in Arkansas by Jay Cole, a Baptist minister and radio host who was a close friend of the Huckabee family. It also became a cause for New York Post columnist Steve Dunleavy, who repeatedly argued for Dumond's release, calling his conviction "a travesty of justice." On Sept. 21, 1999, Dunleavy wrote a column headlined "Clinton's Biggest Crime - Left Innocent Man In Jail For 14 Years": "Dumond, now 52, was given conditional parole yesterday in Arkansas after having being sentenced to 50 years in jail for the rape of Clinton's cousin," Dunleavy wrote. "That rape never happened."
Ahhh I see.
I have seen the replies above. :whatever:
No need to respond to mine.
Well I will anyway. Because this board is probably 10 times larger than the one you moderate. It has tens of thousands of users. One little post and a thread snowballs within 15 minutes. As to your point about political threads bouncing around, It would be one thing if this were the thread on Mike Huckabee's campaign, but its not. It is a thread on a specific news issue.
sinewave
12-05-2007, 04:16 PM
I didn't edit your words without signing it. I deleted your words without signing it. Don't make it out like I created plagarism. :oldrazz: But very well, I shall ask you from now on.
thanks for agreeing to that.
I know the Bush/Obama analogy is stupid, that was the point.
I think we hear about Clinton's mistakes a lot. Keep in mind, he has been out of office for 8 years. Its not exactly practical to report his shortcomings in this kind of article. If something like this happened while Clinton was in office and newspapers ignored it, you'd have a point. But news is CURRENT events. Bill Clinton is no longer current.
But the only relevence I see is Hillary has come out over and over again saying that if she happened to need the guidence of her husband, she would seek it. So in effect, Bill's back in the spotlight, so he's fair game.
rdh007
12-05-2007, 04:17 PM
But my point is Bill Clinton made mistakes and we don't hear about it. A republican makes a mistake and it's front page news. I'm used to the double sided issues though.
All I've heard about is Clinton's mistakes.
Eight years of relative peace...but he had sex outside marriage.
Eight years of relative prosperity...but he had sex outside marriage.
Multiple years of surplus to pay down debt...but he had sex outside marriage.
I mean, if we want to come at Clinton for something, let's come at him about the fact that the chick he banged was overweight and relatively unattractive. Clinton made little secret that Kennedy was someone he admired, but [Lloyd Bentsen]Monica Lewinsky is no Marilyn Monroe, Mr. President[/Lloyd Bentsen]
Memphis Slim
12-05-2007, 04:17 PM
Plus , he looks like Kevin Spacey :woot:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Mike_Huckabee_speaking_at_HealthierUS_Summit.jpg/469px-Mike_Huckabee_speaking_at_HealthierUS_Summit.jpg
http://img.webring.com/r/k/kevinspacey/logo
off topic. take it to another thread.
Don't be pissy, I was responding to MATTs post. :oldrazz:
rdh007
12-05-2007, 04:18 PM
They both remind me of my boss. Who reminds me of Lex Luthor.
In all seriousness, though, I think this alone is damaging to Huckabee. Especially in comparison to Giuliani and Romney, who so far haven't had this kind of thing.
kainedamo
12-05-2007, 04:18 PM
Can I just get something straight?
Did this guy go on to re-offend??
If so, did the people that wanted him released apologise, like the guy from the New York Post?
In 1996, as a newly elected governor who had received strong support from the Christian right, Huckabee was under intense pressure from conservative activists to pardon Dumond or commute his sentence. The activists claimed that Dumond's initial imprisonment and various other travails were due to the fact that Ashley Stevens, the high school cheerleader he had raped, was a distant cousin of Bill Clinton, and the daughter of a major Clinton campaign contributor.
The case for Dumond's innocence was championed in Arkansas by Jay Cole, a Baptist minister and radio host who was a close friend of the Huckabee family. It also became a cause for New York Post columnist Steve Dunleavy, who repeatedly argued for Dumond's release, calling his conviction "a travesty of justice." On Sept. 21, 1999, Dunleavy wrote a column headlined "Clinton's Biggest Crime - Left Innocent Man In Jail For 14 Years": "Dumond, now 52, was given conditional parole yesterday in Arkansas after having being sentenced to 50 years in jail for the rape of Clinton's cousin," Dunleavy wrote. "That rape never happened."
What is your point? The man wasn't pardoned. He was paroled. Even if Huckabee supported it, he did not have the power to parole him. Only the state parole board did.
sinewave
12-05-2007, 04:18 PM
I think with a lot of these political debates people are going to pull facts and opinions out as to the legitimacy or the illegitimacy of whom they are backing or are opposed to. This by default means that topics are going to stray a bit from time to time. From what I have seen they tend to wander right back where they supposed to be all on their own.
With a board of this size one would think that there is a little more room for flexibility in these types of discussions. As a mod on an official NFL site myself I understand the need to somewhat keep things on track and keep things somewhat clean. But in this case I would respectfully ask why some of you guys feel the overwhelming need to be so darn stringent and completely over moderate at times? I mean things arte not even remotely out of hand in this thread or others I have seen threatened to be lock or straight up locked out.
What gives?
On that note
Huckabee is a Christian whack job who thinks the earth is 5000 years old… good choice Huck fans. :oldrazz:
exactly. thanks.
But the only relevence I see is Hillary has come out over and over again saying that if she happened to need the guidence of her husband, she would seek it. So in effect, Bill's back in the spotlight, so he's fair game.
Perhaps, but why should events that are public knowledge that occured 8 years ago be splashed all over head lines? If Clinton some how got someone pardoned today who went out and re-offended tomorrow, I would see your point.
Denny67
12-05-2007, 04:23 PM
Well I will anyway. Because this board is probably 10 times larger than the one you moderate. It has tens of thousands of users. One little post and a thread snowballs within 15 minutes. As to your point about political threads bouncing around, It would be one thing if this were the thread on Mike Huckabee's campaign, but its not. It is a thread on a specific news issue.
Oh yeah SHH is much larger not 10 times (it is an offical NFL site for a team) but larger.
On my board we are only rocking:
Threads: 34,437, Posts: 1,040,217, Members: 10,757. as of 2 min ago.
I understand the nature of the OP but Huckabee is a current presidential candidate. It is inevitable that the discussion is going to flow in that direction as that fact is current and relevant as well.
Just sayin. :cwink:
jaguarr
12-05-2007, 04:24 PM
Can I just get something straight?
Did this guy go on to re-offend??
If so, did the people that wanted him released apologise, like the guy from the New York Post?
According to the article SoulManX posted, he did go on to reoffend.
jag
Oh yeah SHH is much larger.
On my board we are only rocking:
Threads: 34,437, Posts: 1,040,217, Members: 10,757. as of 2 min ago.
I understand the nature of the OP but Huckabee is a current presidential candidate. It is inevitable that the discussion is going to flow in that direction as that fact is current and relevant as well.
Just sayin. :cwink:
The Hype:
Threads: 57,936, Posts: 6,160,485, Members: 25,455
We're just a tiny bit bigger. :cwink:
I understand your point, but again, we have a Huckabee campaign thread. We have a 2008 election thread, we have a global warming thread. And hell, your point would hold water if it had anything to do with Huckabee. It did not. They were discussing global warming in general. Not Huckabee's stance. Just global warming in CHINA.
Well, on a lighter note:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,315264,00.html
Huckabee is in the National Lead according to the Latest Rassmussen Poll. This news couldn't have hurt him too badly.
Well, on a lighter note:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,315264,00.html
Huckabee is in the National Lead according to the Latest Rassmussen Poll. This news couldn't have hurt him too badly.
Give it some time to sink in and for Rudy G to start running ads about it.
I don't doubt for a second that Rudy or Romney are responsible for this incredibly well timed story.
kainedamo
12-05-2007, 04:27 PM
According to the article SoulManX posted, he did go on to reoffend.
jag
Well I certainly hope people banging on to get him released apologised, especially the guy from the New York Post. What an *******.
sinewave
12-05-2007, 04:27 PM
The Hype:
Threads: 57,936, Posts: 6,160,485, Members: 25,455
We're just a tiny bit bigger. :cwink:
I understand your point, but again, we have a Huckabee campaign thread. We have a 2008 election thread, we have a global warming thread. And hell, your point would hold water if it had anything to do with Huckabee. It did not. They were discussing global warming in general. Not Huckabee's stance. Just global warming in CHINA.
for the record, i was NOT dicussing global warming. i was discussing the situation in iraq, which is a political issue that every candidate, including huckabee, is potentially involved in.
oh yeah, huckabee is my top repbulican candidate, aside form paul, but that's like having a favorite serial killer.
Give it some time to sink in and for Rudy G to start running adds about it.
I do have the feeling that Rudy has something to do with releasing this information. He played dirty pool and the CNN Debate.
Memphis Slim
12-05-2007, 04:28 PM
still not cool. if a thread goes off topic a little bit, that's not a big deal. don't be such a post nazi. if i'm in an open discussion with someone and it's not bothering anyone else, what does it matter? i've never seen another mod do what you're doing here.
That's your boy...:whatever:
Other mods know how to stay above the fray...
Well I certainly hope people banging on to get him released apologised, especially the guy from the New York Post. What an *******.
Huckabee already did apologize and admit he made a mistake (something it took Bush 5 years in office to do. I call that a step up)
jaguarr
12-05-2007, 04:29 PM
The Hype:
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We're just a tiny bit bigger. :cwink:
I understand your point, but again, we have a Huckabee campaign thread. We have a 2008 election thread, we have a global warming thread. And hell, your point would hold water if it had anything to do with Huckabee. It did not. They were discussing global warming in general. Not Huckabee's stance. Just global warming in CHINA.
Well, Matt, all I can say is that if you intend to moderate every thread that veers off-topic (and often back on topic) in this same fashion, you are going to be a very, very, very, very, very busy boy. Have fun. :)
jag
This thread is going off topic about how it goes off topic! GREAT SCOTT!
for the record, i was NOT dicussing global warming. i was discussing the situation in iraq, which is a political issue that every candidate, including huckabee, is potentially involved in.
oh yeah, huckabee is my top repbulican candidate, aside form paul, but that's like having a favorite serial killer.
I like Ted Bundy, such a well kept, charming young lad. :cwink:
I understand that, but again, this thread was a specific issue. Do you really not see where I am coming from on this Sine?
Well, Matt, all I can say is that if you intend to moderate every thread that veers off-topic (and often back on topic) in this same fashion, you are going to be a very, very, very, very, very busy boy. Have fun. :)
jag
I'll do what I can in the threads that I frequent.
jaguarr
12-05-2007, 04:33 PM
I'll do what I can in the threads that I frequent.
That will just make things inconsistent, not just from you but across the mod staff. Like I said, I wish you luck with it. :)
jag
That will just make things inconsistent, not just from you but across the mod staff. Like I said, I wish you luck with it. :)
jag
The other mods do what they can as well. Hunter was going ballistic the other day in the Batforum over off topic posts. Keep in mind, there are ten of us and 50,000 threads.
jaguarr
12-05-2007, 04:37 PM
The other mods do what they can as well. Hunter was going ballistic the other day in the Batforum over off topic posts. Keep in mind, there are ten of us and 50,000 threads.
Yeah, I get that, which is why I am wishing you good luck in trying to micromanage that many threads from that many posters. :abom:
jag
sinewave
12-05-2007, 04:37 PM
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That's your boy...:whatever:
Other mods know how to stay above the fray...
"my boy"? why? because we both support bill richardson?
I like Ted Bundy, such a well kept, charming young lad. :cwink:
I understand that, but again, this thread was a specific issue. Do you really not see where I am coming from on this Sine?
i do, but i think you're going about it all wrong. i've always viewed mods as being there to stop people from breaking the rules of the hype. since when is going off-topic forbidden? even when they do go off topic, they usually meander back on topic within a few pages. you seem to have an itchy trigger finger. i can understand pet peeves, but if you're put in a position of authority, making everyone adhere to your narrow personal preferences, outside of the rules of the forum, seems kind of dictatorial. i'm probably overstating things, so don't take everything i say literally, but you know what i mean.
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