Discussion: The REPUBLICAN Party

[bored]

And she's getting some Bush crony to represent her in court. I will watch how this unfolds with interest.

Coulter hires Bush recount lawyer to defend against voter fraud allegations
06/02/2006 @ 6:02 pm
Filed by RAW STORY


Conservative cover girl Ann Coulter has hired a White House connected lawyer who represented Bush/Cheney in the 2000 election recount battles to defend against possible felony charges for voting illegally in a February election, according to an item from a Florida newspaper.

Advertisement
"Conservative pundit and best-selling political writer Ann Coulter has hired a white-glove, White House-connected law firm to fight allegations she voted illegally in February's Town of Palm Beach election," Jose Lambiet writes for the Palm Beach Post (link).

"And the attorney from the Miami-based Kenny Nachwalter firm is no stranger to Palm Beach voting," Lambiet notes. "Marcos Jimenez — who was, along with the more famous Olson, one of the lead attorneys who fought for George W. Bush's side in the 2000 presidential election snafu here — was assigned to Coulter."

Jimenez served as U.S. attorney for Florida's Southern District, appointed by President Bush in April of 2002 to a four year term which ended last year (link).

Excerpts from the Palm Beach Post article:

#
A poll worker reported to his supervisors that he saw Coulter try to vote in the precinct closest to her Palm Beach home. But when she was told the address on her voter's registration was elsewhere, Coulter ran out instead of correcting it and ended up voting in a precinct that wasn't hers. Knowingly voting in the wrong precinct in Florida is a felony.

Elections Supervisor Arthur Anderson gave Coulter until April 30 to explain what happened, but she has yet to answer his registered letters. Now with Jimenez, Kelly said, officials will wait "a few more weeks" before starting a procedure that could strip Coulter of her right to vote here and refer the case to State Attorney Barry Krischer for possible prosecution.

#
FULL ARTICLE AT THIS LINK

Brad Blog has more on Coulter's legal troubles.

[jaguarr]

Nice. If only they'd kick her out of the country while they're at it.

jag

[TheSumOfGod]

lol I hope that witch meets the broken end of a mop in jail.

[Truthteller]

Good lord. They want to fry her because she voted in the precinct where she was registered. But some of the same anti-conservatives folks don't want anyone to have to register at all. HA! Witch hunt. :gg:

[cass]

I thought liberals were all about tolerance. Oh wait, that's a lie to try and hold the black vote.

[jaguarr]

Good lord. They want to fry her because she voted in the precinct where she was registered. But some of the same anti-conservatives folks don't want anyone to have to register at all. HA! Witch hunt. :gg:

Well, from the story, it sounds like she knowingly voted at the wrong precinct which is against Florida law. Lord knows she'd be the first one to scream bloody murder if one of her liberal targets got caught doing the same thing. She's done much to create political enemies for herself, so I'm not overly surprised that people are trying to find creative ways to take her down a peg or two.

jag

[bored]

I thought liberals were all about tolerance. Oh wait, that's a lie to try and hold the black vote.


What are you talking about?

[Addendum]

I thought liberals were all about tolerance. Oh wait, that's a lie to try and hold the black vote.
It has nothing to do with the worn out "liberals vs. conservative" argument which is worth less than the rag a jizzmopper uses to clean the booths in Triple X video stores.

If Coulter knowingly voted in the wrong district, it's a felony under Florida law. If Susan Sarandon lived in Florida, and knowingly voted in the wrong district, it's a felony.

If the accusation is true, then she should face the consequences. Leave the political bull**** in the lobby of the courthouse.

[C.F. Kane]

Well, from the story, it sounds like she knowingly voted at the wrong precinct which is against Florida law. Lord knows she'd be the first one to scream bloody murder if one of her liberal targets got caught doing the same thing. She's done much to create political enemies for herself, so I'm not overly surprised that people are trying to find creative ways to take her down a peg or two.

jag

That sounds like a probable story. Although nothing big is going to come of this, I'm sure. She'll probably get off.

In the meantime, I'm just going to relax and enjoy her continuing slide into obscurity.

[bored]

That sounds like a probable story. Although nothing big is going to come of this, I'm sure. She'll probably get off.

In the meantime, I'm just going to relax and enjoy her continuing slide into obscurity.


Until an ACTUAL attractive female conservative pundit arrives, Coulter will still have a good share of fans.

[Superman]

Ann Coulter lambasts some 9/11 widows


NEW YORK - The group of outspoken 9/11 widows who pushed for the commission to investigate the attacks are "self-obsessed" and act "as if the terrorist attacks happened only to them," conservative author Ann Coulter charges in her new book

Coulter appeared on NBC's "Today" show on Tuesday, marking the release of "Godless: The Church of Liberalism" and reiterated her stance, saying the women used their grief "to make a political point."

In her book, Coulter said, "I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much."

The women are Kristen Breitweiser, Lorie Van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg and Patty Casazza of New Jersey. Coulter refers to them as the "Witches of East Brunswick," the New Jersey town where two of them live.

"Having my husband burn alive in a building brought me no joy," Van Auken told the Daily News in Wednesday's editions in response to Coulter.

"She sounds like a very disturbed, unraveled person," Breitweiser said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060607/ap_en_ot/coulter9_11_widows_3

:rolleyes:

[Flexo]

Is it just me, or has the universe become much more stupid in the last few weeks?

[deemar325]

Coulter what a harpy.

I wish breast and throat cancer on her.

[Abaddon]

Maybe she was having a lady day

[Equint77]

I'd **** her then throw her into a pool of acid.

[Slipknot]

Ann Coulter is such a *****.

[deemar325]

I'd **** her then throw her into a pool of acid.

I'd strand her in Iraq or Iran with a tatoo on her forehead saying, "Muhammed was a woman."

[Equint77]

I'd strand her in Iraq or Iran with a tatoo on her forehead saying, "Muhammed was a woman."

I'd pay to see that. :eek:

[C.F. Kane]

I'd strand her in Iraq or Iran with a tatoo on her forehead saying, "Muhammed was a woman."

A good start.

But I think we should put the tatoo on her chest and have her wear a low-neck sweater. Then give her in Hasidic headress.

[rdh007]

Here's to hoping she just names her next book "Hyperbole: Buy This Book So I Can Fill the Void"

[Equint77]

why not load a bunch of C4 into her cooch and set it off.

[deemar325]

A good start.

But I think we should put the tatoo on her chest and have her wear a low-neck sweater. Then give her in Hasidic headress.

Better yet I'd get her drunk and have sex with her and send the pics of our incounter to her ever loving WASP Mother and Father.

My big Black ass drilling their daughter would kill them on the spot.

[deemar325]

why not load a bunch of C4 into her cooch and set it off.
I like that.:up:

[Spidey-Bat]

Ann Coulter, Al Franken, Bill O'Reiley, and Michael Moore all need to go away.

[cass]

So I take it by describing how you'd rape her and then kill her, you guys are better than her?

[Equint77]

yes

[deemar325]

So I take it by describing how you'd rape her and then kill her, you guys are better than her?

I never said I'd harm her just setup situations where she'll be harmed.

:)

[C.F. Kane]

So I take it by describing how you'd rape her and then kill her, you guys are better than her?

We're jokingly threatening her without her knowing about it. The insults we're making are harmless.

However, this hag is insulting strong-willed people who have experiences real tragedy on television and on bookshelves. Her insults are greatly harmful.

We're better than her.

[cass]

We're jokingly threatening her without her knowing about it. The insults we're making are harmless.

However, this hag is insulting strong-willed people who have experiences real tragedy on television and on bookshelves. Her insults are greatly harmful.

We're better than her.

Whatever you tell yourself in order to sleep at night, right?

[jaguarr]

I love how she's gleefully exploiting the deaths these families have endured in order to further her own political agenda and make money by selling her book. What a friggin' hypocrite. :down

jag

[rdh007]

You've got to ask yourself what she tells herself to get to sleep. I imagine the 5000 thread count Egyptian cotton bed sheets don't hurt.

[deemar325]

Whatever you tell yourself in order to sleep at night, right?

I do and it makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

[deemar325]

If theres anyboby who needed a random encounter with Ted Bundy it's Coulter.

[Slipknot]

So I take it by describing how you'd rape her and then kill her, you guys are better than her?
Whatever you tell yourself in order to sleep at night, right?
Do you actually have anything to say about her/or what she said... or did you just come in here to fight with other users?

[deemar325]

I ain't mad at Cass, he/she got an opinion too.

Coulter for Hitler...uh..President!

[cass]

Ann Coulter is such a *****.

And you're questioning my contribution?

[Slipknot]

And you're questioning my contribution?
I called her a *****... so what? The only thing you did was come in here to call out other people without actually responding to the article. I responded to the article... I called her a ***** because of this article. Why don't you try and defend her comments... come on, I know you want to.

[cass]

I called her a *****... so what? The only thing you did was come in here to call out other people without actually responding to the article. I responded to the article... I called her a ***** because of this article. Why don't you try and defend her comments... come on, I know you want to.

I'm waiting to actually read her book to see the context of her words.

[jaguarr]

I'm waiting to actually read her book to see the context of her words.

Why is there a need for context? Coulter is just as, if not more, guilty of using these women and their grief to suit her own poltical leanings (and make a profit) as the very women she criticizes.

jag

[Corinthian™]

I'm waiting to actually read her book to see the context of her words.
a.k.a. I don't care, I just want you all commie democrats to look bad and hypocrits

[cass]

a.k.a. I don't care, I just want you all commie democrats to look bad and hypocrits

It looks like you guys don't need any help with that.

[deemar325]

Coulter is pretty much using these 9/11 families for press so she is just doing what her kind (Vultures) do.

[jaguarr]

It looks like you guys don't need any help with that.

You still have not answered my question. Let me repeat it:

Why is there a need for context? Coulter is just as, if not more, guilty of using these women and their grief to suit her own poltical leanings (and make a profit) as the very women she criticizes.

Do you have a sensible answer for this question?

jag

[sinewave]

cass, are you actually defending ann coulter?

[deemar325]

Maybe it is Ann Coulter?

Cass..Cass hmm?

C.A.S.S.

Coulter A Sinister Sycophant?

Crazy Ann Sourface Sicko?

[8Ball2/JanG5]

"Godless: The Church of Liberalism"

Why the **** is religon still so tied into politics today????!?? WHY?!?!?!?

I need answers.

[Corinthian™]

"Godless: The Church of Liberalism"

Why the **** is religon still so tied into politics today????!?? WHY?!?!?!?

I need answers.
I like what implies that title

Godless: Th Chruch of Liberalism

Liberalism: Related to Liberty

Glodless: The Church of Liberty

God: Opressor

[Abaddon]

Maybe it is Ann Coulter?

Cass..Cass hmm?

C.A.S.S.

Coulter A Sinister Sycophant?

Crazy Ann Sourface Sicko?


Try backwards:


Sordid Serpentine Ann Coulter

[jaguarr]

I like what implies that title

Godless: Th Chruch of Liberalism

Liberalism: Related to Liberty

Glodless: The Church of Liberty

God: Opressor

Haha! Coulter would probably have a seizure if she read that. :D

jag

[Kelly]

I called her a *****... so what? The only thing you did was come in here to call out other people without actually responding to the article. I responded to the article... I called her a ***** because of this article. Why don't you try and defend her comments... come on, I know you want to.

I don't see anyway to defend her comments, BUT to in order for her to go away.....those at the other end must go as well.....the spectrum is wide....and there are many on it.....all have a view, we may agree or disagree....but we live in a country where those views can and are heard....you have her at one end and people like Jonathan Chait at the other....different views from different people....

BTW, I thought her accusations were ridiculously stupid...

[8Ball2/JanG5]

No she wouldn't. Conservatives LIKE opressors, they just don't say it in those words. They really believe people shouldn't be free. They honestly believe everybody should be prim, proper, upstanding, and obide by the rules of society and never stray from the norm. They believe FREEDOM is bad for people, because people are too weak to handle freedom, because people are too weak to not have a STRONG leader who knows the path and can stay the course.

The only thing that irks me is when conservatives think we all need God.

[bored]

"Godless: The Church of Liberalism"

Why the **** is religon still so tied into politics today????!?? WHY?!?!?!?

I need answers.


So wing-nuts can warp it to their advantage.

[deemar325]

Try backwards:


Sordid Serpentine Ann Coulter

Good one.


****ty Slurpper Ann Coulter

[deemar325]

Scaly Sleestak Ann Coulter

[Kelly]

No she wouldn't. Conservatives LIKE opressors, they just don't say it in those words. They really believe people shouldn't be free. They honestly believe everybody should be prim, proper, upstanding, and obide by the rules of society and never stray from the norm. They believe FREEDOM is bad for people, because people are too weak to handle freedom, because people are too weak to not have a STRONG leader who knows the path and can stay the course.

The only thing that irks me is when conservatives think we all need God.

What irks me is when people make sweeping statements....

I happen to be a "fiscal" conservative and a "social" liberal.....many who don't know me might put me in the conservative box.....I am conservative in some respects.....so a sweeping statement such as yours....misses alot....BUT those sweeping statements go both ways...

[Slipknot]

http://c.myspace.com/Groups/00000/95/51/711559_l.gif

[deemar325]

http://c.myspace.com/Groups/00000/95/51/711559_l.gif

Yep, she needs a time-out.

[bored]

Senator calls Coulter 'shameless'
06/07/2006 @ 5:03 pm
Filed by RAW STORY


From a release to RAW STORY.

Advertisement
#
WASHINGTON, D.C. – United States Senator Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ) issued the following statement today in response to remarks made by right-wing pundit and author Ann Coulter.

“Ms. Coulter’s shameless attack on the victims of the worst act of terrorism in American history can only engender disgust at her tasteless statements when she asserts that their husbands’ deaths bring them joy. Her bookselling antics and accompanying vulgarity deserve our deepest contempt.

Her foul remarks trivialize the deaths of every single person who died that terrible day, including the lives of those brave police officers and firefighters who ran into those burning buildings,” said Senator Lautenberg.


Of course, he's a Democart, so she'll just make another smartass comment about it and move on.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Remember that recent thread about "How easily do you laugh?"? and I said, "My challenge is that I laugh at tragedy."?

Well
"Having my husband burn alive in a building brought me no joy," just, hahaha, made me laugh.:(:up::down:)
What a silly thing to say.:confused:


Anyway, I love Ann Coulter and she must NOT go away, until she dies of natural causes. I love her almost as much as I love Al Franken.:up:

[Abaddon]

Does anyone actually listen to her?I mean seriously,who's going to buy that ****ing book?:confused:

[Slipknot]

Yep, she needs a time-out.
I'm reading some of her quotes... amazing. I cannot believe she is actually liked by anyone of the face of the planet...


"My only problem with Tim Mcvay is that he did not go to the New York Times Buiding."

"The terrorists that attacked the United States on 9/11 were Arabs. Therefore, all Arabs are terrorists."

"Liberals hate America."
"Liberals hate all religions except Islam."
"Democrats actually hate working-class people."

"Liberals hate society."

"There are no good democrats"

"People like you caused us to lose the war." (to a disabled Vietnam Veteran)

"Thats the whole point of being a liberal: to feel superior to people with less money."

"The thing I like about Bush is I think he hates liberals."

"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism."

"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I'm reading some of her quotes... amazing. I cannot believe she is actually liked by anyone of the face of the planet...


"My only problem with Tim Mcvay is that he did not go to the New York Times Buiding."

"The terrorists that attacked the United States on 9/11 were Arabs. Therefore, all Arabs are terrorists."

"Liberals hate America."
"Liberals hate all religions except Islam."
"Democrats actually hate working-class people."

"Liberals hate society."

"There are no good democrats"

"People like you caused us to lose the war." (to a disabled Vietnam Veteran)

"Thats the whole point of being a liberal: to feel superior to people with less money."

"The thing I like about Bush is I think he hates liberals."

"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism."

"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."


Can you provide some documentation on those shocking quotes, 'cause 1) I know she's intelligent, and 2) there are a lot of people still who believe that "Landover Baptist" is a real Christian church...so,...

But yeah, I found this cool collection of quotes from "The American Taliban" that'll make your head spin:

EDIT: Oh CRAP!
I had "The American Taliban" on "favorites" for a year or so, just went to reference it, and LO and beHOLD, it's been shut DOWN...and the person who made it has an apology for the fact that it's gone and makes a disclaimer that he/she feels bad that he/she has no way of verifying the quotes.

hMMmmmMMMm.

[8Ball2/JanG5]

What irks me is when people make sweeping statements....

I happen to be a "fiscal" conservative and a "social" liberal.....many who don't know me might put me in the conservative box.....I am conservative in some respects.....so a sweeping statement such as yours....misses alot....BUT those sweeping statements go both ways...

I understand that, which is why I didn't want to justify myself. I was talking about the overall trends, again, I didn't want to try to be PC. I'm talking more about the views of "social" conservatives. I find it odd that there IS a large group of church loving social conservatives, very large. It may not even be the majority, but it's still way too large.

And, I agree, where did you get those quotes???

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I find it odd that there IS a large group of church loving social conservatives, very large. It may not even be the majority, but it's still way too large.It's "TOO" large?
So, what do you propose we do about that excessively large group, Himmler?

I guess you're thanking your lucky stars that America isn't really a Democracy!:eek:

[8Ball2/JanG5]

Oh you know, kill th... ahem.

Talk to them. Ask them what their thing is with Jesus? Ask them what it means to be a Christian and an American and if those are really the same thing. :confused:

I guess you're thanking your lucky stars that America isn't really a Democracy!

I don't think religon should be used as a tool in religon at all. This is all in response to the claim that liberals are godless. Under free speech the claim should be able to be made, but I'd hope for a society that would know that claim is outrageous.

[cass]

I understand that, which is why I didn't want to justify myself. I was talking about the overall trends, again, I didn't want to try to be PC. I'm talking more about the views of "social" conservatives. I find it odd that there IS a large group of church loving social conservatives, very large. It may not even be the majority, but it's still way too large.

And, I agree, where did you get those quotes???

So much for liberals being about tolerance, eh?

[Abaddon]

why not just send them on a rocket ship to the sun?:confused:

[Abaddon]

So much for liberals being about tolerance, eh?


Right,because he represents all liberals.:rolleyes:

[8Ball2/JanG5]

So much for liberals being about tolerance, eh?

Nothing wrong with church loving and also happening to have a certain political stance, but i'm talking about the absolute marriage between those views, as if they are not seperate at all. I don't like the fact that anyone can say something like "You Godless Liberals" and people will actually listen to them.

[cass]

Nothing wrong with church loving and also happening to have a certain political stance, but i'm talking about the absolute marriage between those views, as if they are not seperate at all.

Oh, sorry that people actually stand up for stuff they believe it.

[Carter]

There were some women who spent their husband's benefits on crap.
I remember one bought a load of shoes.

I'm sure the media has twisted this whole thing and blown it out of proportion.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I don't think religon should be used as a tool in religon at all.guh, WHA?!?:confused:

[8Ball2/JanG5]

I don't think religion should be used as a tool in POLITICS at all.

I don't think you guys should be able to mix up politics and religion at all. Sorry, religious views are so varying and exclusive, it's unfair. What would you call america? A Christian America? See, it's too exclusive.

[Corinthian™]

So much for liberals being about tolerance, eh?
liberals are just as tolerant as Republicans, which are just as tolerant as independant which are just as tolerant as EVERY ****ING PERSON IN THIS ****ING WORLD


Intolerancy, as humane as you can come


idiot

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Proper Wording > 8Ball2/JanG5 :(

[Carter]

I should really read the posts in a thread before I waste my time being all "on topic" and stuff.

[bored]

So much for liberals being about tolerance, eh?


You said the same thing in the last Ann Coulter thread. And like last time, it doesn't make sense.

[8Ball2/JanG5]

Yeah, written language does not come naturally to me. Only visual language. :o

To some degree, everyone on this page, including me, are playing devils advocate--BUT I think you all know exactly what I'm saying.

[Addendum]

The Wisdom of Ann Coulter (http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0111.coulterwisdom.html)

The article is dated October 2001, but the c**t hasn't changed in 5 years.

[Corinthian™]

Yeah, written language does not come naturally to me. Only visual language. :o

To some degree, everyone on this page, including me, are playing devils advocate--BUT I think you all know exactly what I'm saying.
..............................

[tzarinna]

I'm sure she bears the mark

[Carter]

To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."

Lmao, hilarious

[Carter]

"[Clinton] masturbates in the sinks."---Rivera Live 8/2/99

Ann Coulter is awesome. I love this broad.

[Darthphere]

Check out her interview with Today.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xv05FK69KU

[Slipknot]

So much for liberals being about tolerance, eh?
Why do you keep jumping into conversations just to take shots at people? That is all you EVER do.

[Darthphere]

Why do you keep jumping into conversations just to take shots at people? That is all you EVER do.


Because he/she has no argument.

[Carter]

"Let's say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I'm not married."---Rivera Live 6/7/00

"Anorexics never have boyfriends. ... That's one way to know you don't have anorexia, if you have a boyfriend."---Politically Incorrect 7/21/97

I've literally got tears of laughter in my eyes

[Abaddon]

On Rep. Christopher Shays (d-CT) in deciding whether to run against him as a Libertarian candidate: "I really want to hurt him. I want him to feel pain."---Hartford Courant 6/25/99

"The swing voters---I like to refer to them as the idiot voters because they don't have set philosophical principles. You're either a liberal or you're a conservative if you have an IQ above a toaster. "---Beyond the News, Fox News Channel, 6/4/00



wow.

[8Ball2/JanG5]

I think the U.S. Government should be designed to completely discourage views that mix ideas in the way Ann Coulter does.

[Carter]

Ann Coulter for president

[Addendum]

She's just bitter that she can't get laid.

But when her and Debbie Schlussel open their mouths and speak, it's not surprising

[cass]

Why do you keep jumping into conversations just to take shots at people? That is all you EVER do.

That's taking shots at people. Wow, just how thin is your skin?

[8Ball2/JanG5]

"The swing voters---I like to refer to them as the idiot voters because they don't have set philosophical principles. You're either a liberal or you're a conservative if you have an IQ above a toaster. "---Beyond the News, Fox News Channel, 6/4/00

It shouldn't even have to be said, but that's no way to get swing voters. My philosophical principles tell me to look at all of my options in front of me and trust no one. Maybe it's the swing voters that should be telling her she is an idiot.

Psychology people: is there a difference in higher brain functions or nature/nurture or anything between people who see things in black and white and people who see things in varying shades of gray? Have we all been conditioned to lean one way or the other, or is this hereditary/biological?

[Slipknot]

That's taking shots at people. Wow, just how thin is your skin?
Heh, I'm fine. All I am talking about is the fact that you come into every political thread, go after one persons comments, horribly generalize, and then usually leave the thread until someone else makes a comment of which you know you can take a shot at all liberals and generalize some more.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Here, let's see, I'll just assume that these are all accurate...

"My only problem with Tim Mcvay is that he did not go to the New York Times Buiding." - evil but entertaining. And I'm guessing that Ann knew how to spell his name correctly.

"The terrorists that attacked the United States on 9/11 were Arabs. Therefore, all Arabs are terrorists." - I refuse to believe that that is an accurate representation of what she said. I'd imagine that what she was really saying was, Arabs would be more likely to be the guys on a homicidal Jihad against America, so we should eye Arabs with more scrutiny than when we're eyeing little old Caucasian ladies. But it's hard to say since no one has provided me with any proof that she actually said that.

"Liberals hate America." - They most certainly hate America, depending on your definition of "AMERICA". Conservatives hate "AMERICA" too.

"Liberals hate all religions except Islam." - Completely retarded thing to say and if she really said that then...woof, she's truly a childish retard.

"Democrats actually hate working-class people." I'll take a page from my Christian friends on the Hype..."I'll bet that was taken out of context."
I'll bet you anything that, IF she said that, she was saying that Liberal policies harm the middle class and benefit the wealthy (covertly), while perpetuating the societal problems we have, such as when they Addict inner-city, under-educated females to Welfare, etc.

"Liberals hate society." - See Above.

"There are no good democrats" - A dumb thing to say. A more accurate wording would've been: There are no good POLITICIANS".

"People like you caused us to lose the war." (to a disabled Vietnam Veteran)
That's not even disputable. It's true. Though I have a huge buzzy-feeling that's telling me that that was taken wuh-HAY out of context, you liberal Devils.:down

"Thats the whole point of being a liberal: to feel superior to people with less money." - Dumb to say.

"The thing I like about Bush is I think he hates liberals." - Valid. Matter of opinion.

"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism." - I...don't, even get what that's about.

"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors." According to our supposedly revered "laws", we DO need to execute John Walker. The rest of the statement is her lashing out because she had an unhappy childhood, I suspect.

*shrug*


Either way, she's always entertained me, and she doesn't hold any office that I'm aware of.

I can't STAND white racists, because some of my greatest friends and/or HEROES aren't Caucasian, but **** you if you want to keep idiots like that from speaking their filth.

[bored]

Wilhelm, I know you're trying to maintain some healthy skepticism about the quotes, but what you need to realize is that Ann Coulter has a gimmick which she clings to for dear life, and that's making the most outrageous comments possible to try and piss people off. The most extreme things that may sound farfetched to you are the kinds of things she'll say at any oppurtunity.

[Darthphere]

Wilhelm, I know you're trying to maintain some healthy skepticism about the quotes, but what you need to realize is that Ann Coulter has a gimmick which she clings to for dear life, and that's making the most outrageous comments possible to try and piss people off. The most extreme things that may sound farfetched to you are the kinds of things she'll say at any oppurtunity.


I doubt she even believes what she says.

[bored]

It's a game to her. I've never had any reason to believe that Ann Coulter takes politics seriously.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Wilhelm, I know you're trying to maintain some healthy skepticism about the quotes, but what you need to realize is that Ann Coulter has a gimmick which she clings to for dear life, and that's making the most outrageous comments possible to try and piss people off. The most extreme things that may sound farfetched to you are the kinds of things she'll say at any oppurtunity.I don't think it's a "gimmick".
I think she feels that what she says is true, whether or not she's stopped to think about what exactly she's saying at any given moment.

My skepticism comes from the fact that I haven't heard much from her at all in the past couple of years, but when I was following her, and saw her on CNN, and heard her on talk radio shows, etc. a while back, she said "inflammatory" things, but they were always things that at least contained a kernel of SENSE.

I don't know if she's subsequently lost her mind, but I've agreed with a lot of what I've heard her say in the past.

I will admit that I give a default reverence to anyone who makes fun of, damns, or mocks "the way things are" currently.*shrug*

[Wilhelm-Scream]

It's a game to her. I've never had any reason to believe that Ann Coulter takes politics seriously.Are you insane?:confused:

She TOtally hates Liberalism and thinks that it's an inordinately huge factor in "the downfall of America as it should be".

Please.:confused:

You're probably one of these ostriches that thinks Glen Danzig isn't really HARD CORE in RL.

[Carter]

http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/7615/hawkingmama0mx.jpg

[Wilhelm-Scream]

My Mom is really fat.
It's sad because she always wants to come up for a visit, but when she inevitably fails on her diet, she's scared to be seen by me (the fat kid in the family who pulled it together and got chiseled/fit/un-fat), and puts it off until,..."someday", when she won't look so lard-ass.

I think it's gross because 1) Um, hello, MOM?, I, am not really interested in how ATTRACTIVE you are.K?K.
and
2) We haven't seen eachother in half a decade.:(
Does this mean that Feta cheese, Sweet Rolls and her own Vanity are more important to her than face-time with her own favorite son?:confused:

But that's partially MY thing, 'cause no WAY do I want to pay money to go back to depressing as Hell IDAHO for a few days to hang with my fat-ass MOM!, let them come to "Paradise on Earth" Seattle. Right?, and bask in the glory of my wirey physique.

See how weird that is?
LMMFWAO! Hahahahahahahah

[sinewave]

I don't think it's a "gimmick".
I think she feels that what she says is true, whether or not she's stopped to think about what exactly she's saying at any given moment.

My skepticism comes from the fact that I haven't heard much from her at all in the past couple of years, but when I was following her, and saw her on CNN, and heard her on talk radio shows, etc. a while back, she said "inflammatory" things, but they were always things that at least contained a kernel of SENSE.

I don't know if she's subsequently lost her mind, but I've agreed with a lot of what I've heard her say in the past.

I will admit that I give a default reverence to anyone who makes fun of, damns, or mocks "the way things are" currently.*shrug*


this is the way i see it. anne coulter was probably raised in a wealthy, conservative family in connecticut or on long island by a fridged, alcoholic mother and a distant, selfish father and she devolved into an educated, sociopathic sensationalist with an enormous ego and an intense case of paranoia with a touch of dementia.

[Abaddon]

My Mom is really fat.
It's sad because she always wants to come up for a visit, but when she inevitably fails on her diet, she's scared to be seen by me (the fat kid in the family who pulled it together and got chiseled/fit/un-fat), and puts it off until,..."someday", when she won't look so lard-ass.

I think it's gross because 1) Um, hello, MOM?, I, am not really interested in how ATTRACTIVE you are.K?K.
and
2) We haven't seen eachother in half a decade.:(
Does this mean that Feta cheese, Sweet Rolls and her own Vanity are more important to her than face-time with her own favorite son?:confused:

But that's partially MY thing, 'cause no WAY do I want to pay money to go back to depressing as Hell IDAHO for a few days to hang with my fat-ass MOM!, let them come to "Paradise on Earth" Seattle. Right?, and bask in the glory of my wirey physique.

See how weird that is?
LMMFWAO! Hahahahahahahah

:( :( :( :( :(

[Wilhelm-Scream]

this is the way i see it. anne coulter was probably raised in a wealthy, conservative family in connecticut or on long island by a fridged, alcoholic mother and a distant, selfish father and she devolved into an educated, sociopathic sensationalist with an enormous ego and an intense case of paranoia with a touch of dementia.
sounds about right.
Very entertaining.
If she's ever elected President, then I'll get antsy.:up:

[Darthphere]

LMMFWAO!


Is that like a stuttering laugh?

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Is that like a stuttering laugh?Laughing My Mother-****ing White Ass Off.

[Ben Urich]

What a ****ing (rhymes with bundt.)

[Darthphere]

Laughing My Mother-****ing White Ass Off.


Hmmm makes sense.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

good eye

[bored]

I don't think it's a "gimmick".
I think she feels that what she says is true, whether or not she's stopped to think about what exactly she's saying at any given moment.

My skepticism comes from the fact that I haven't heard much from her at all in the past couple of years, but when I was following her, and saw her on CNN, and heard her on talk radio shows, etc. a while back, she said "inflammatory" things, but they were always things that at least contained a kernel of SENSE.

I don't know if she's subsequently lost her mind, but I've agreed with a lot of what I've heard her say in the past.

I will admit that I give a default reverence to anyone who makes fun of, damns, or mocks "the way things are" currently.*shrug*


It may not be wise to be so, dare I say, liberal with that reverence. Whatever you may remember about her from way back when, it doesn't show in her, now. I've read entire columns by her where she never makes a point about anything, just makes bad jokes about Democrats. Sense is irrelevant to her, as long as whatever she says can piss people off, frustrate them, or both. She just did an interview on "Today" where she ended by asking Lauer where Katie Couric (who she's never gotten along with) was. Why? Because it could annoy him (he'd dared to question some of the statements in her most recent book). Being obnoxious and asinine is all Ann Coulter has.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

It may not be wise to be so, dare I say, liberal with that reverence. Whatever you may remember about her from way back when, it doesn't show in her, now. I've read entire columns by her where she never makes a point about anything, just makes bad jokes about Democrats.Yeah, like I said...I haven't heard a peep from her for a couple of years. I was just saying, when I used to hear her on a "sort-of" regular basis, she at least sounded smart.
Also, you may be biased. Your "bad jokes about liberals", may be MY, "PREACH IT, SISTER!"

Sense is irrelevant to her, as long as whatever she says can piss people off, frustrate them, or both. She just did an interview on "Today" where she ended by asking Lauer where Katie Couric (who she's never gotten along with) was. Why? Because it could annoy him (he'd dared to question some of the statements in her most recent book). Being obnoxious and asinine is all Ann Coulter has.To me that sounds awesome.:confused:

Would you've rather've been watching the 4AM Farm Report?
And don't think for 2 seconds that Al Franken doesn't resort to childish crap like that.
That's why I love them both.
Both are RIGHT. Both are WRONG, and both ENTERTAIN Me.

:confused:
What's the DEELIO?:confused:

[Truthteller]

I like Ann Coulter. Always have. She is tough, smart and brave.

And by smart, I mean very smart. Brilliant in fact.

Not only is she correct in her understanding of humanity and human society, she knows how to operate tactically. And that is why she is so provacative. Bleeding hearts hate her because they respond emotionally to her. Use reason, and her positions make sense.

She knows what she is doing: "Coulter relishes her reputation as a controversial speaker, telling The Sunday Times of London in 2002, "I am a polemicist. I am perfectly frank about that. I like to stir up the pot. I don't pretend to be impartial or balanced, as broadcasters do."" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter

[Corinthian™]

http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/7615/hawkingmama0mx.jpg
this has to be the best "your mom" joke:(:up:

[Carter]

Dr. Hawking sure is a looker

[DareDemon]

EDIT: Woah what the heck? I posted a message and it went to the wrong thread. Still worked here, but oh well. I don't like these kinds of threads cause of th arguments and stuff.

[Carter]

She's actually smarter than you think.
She says **** like this to get attention.

The media gives it to her.
It's why she has a job.

[Man-Thing]

Are you insane?:confused:

She TOtally hates Liberalism and thinks that it's an inordinately huge factor in "the downfall of America as it should be".

Please.:confused:

You're probably one of these ostriches that thinks Glen Danzig isn't really HARD CORE in RL.

HARD CORE in RL???

:confused: what's that supposed to mean, I love Danzig.

[War Lord]

Ann Coulter lambasts some 9/11 widows


NEW YORK - The group of outspoken 9/11 widows who pushed for the commission to investigate the attacks are "self-obsessed" and act "as if the terrorist attacks happened only to them," conservative author Ann Coulter charges in her new book

Coulter appeared on NBC's "Today" show on Tuesday, marking the release of "Godless: The Church of Liberalism" and reiterated her stance, saying the women used their grief "to make a political point."

In her book, Coulter said, "I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much."

The women are Kristen Breitweiser, Lorie Van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg and Patty Casazza of New Jersey. Coulter refers to them as the "Witches of East Brunswick," the New Jersey town where two of them live.

"Having my husband burn alive in a building brought me no joy," Van Auken told the Daily News in Wednesday's editions in response to Coulter.

"She sounds like a very disturbed, unraveled person," Breitweiser said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060607/ap_en_ot/coulter9_11_widows_3

:rolleyes:

She is blunt, but correct. As tragic as 911 was, they need to get on with their lives.

You didn't see Pearl Harbour widows coming out demanding an investigation into their loss.

[Man-Thing]

Check out her interview with Today.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xv05FK69KU


haha that's funny, Matt's getting all testy. He's pratically foaming at the mouth.

[Man-Thing]

She is blunt, but correct. As tragic as 911 was, they need to get on with their lives.

You didn't see Pearl Harbour widows coming out demanding an investigation into their loss.

that's not even what she is saying:rolleyes:

She's saying that just because they have lost someone in a terrorist event it shouldn't exclude them from being questioned.

[War Lord]

that's not even what she is saying:rolleyes:

She's saying that just because they have lost someone in a terrorist event it shouldn't exclude them from being questioned.

She is still correct.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I don't pretend to be impartial or balanced, as broadcasters do."beautiful key-words there.

[Man-Thing]

I still can't get over Matt, that interview was hilarious. I bet he went back to his dressing room and cried in anger. Afterwords he looked at himself in the mirror and said (while grinting his teeth) "I'm not biased! I'm not biased!"

The little Katie joke at the end was excellent.:up:

[The Overlord]

I like Ann Coulter. Always have. She is tough, smart and brave.

And by smart, I mean very smart. Brilliant in fact.

Not only is she correct in her understanding of humanity and human society, she knows how to operate tactically. And that is why she is so provacative. Bleeding hearts hate her because they respond emotionally to her. Use reason, and her positions make sense.

She knows what she is doing: "Coulter relishes her reputation as a controversial speaker, telling The Sunday Times of London in 2002, "I am a polemicist. I am perfectly frank about that. I like to stir up the pot. I don't pretend to be impartial or balanced, as broadcasters do."" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter

So you have no problem with her mocking 9-11 widows, you think that's okay and not in very poor taste. If liberal acted the way she acted (by calling all conversatives evil all the time) you would hate that person. I say its a double standard. Besides that just makes her glorified shock jock, she is more concerned with stirring the pot than saying something intelligent, she lowers the tone of political discussion in US, she is doing everyone a disservice.

[The Overlord]

She is blunt, but correct. As tragic as 911 was, they need to get on with their lives.

You didn't see Pearl Harbour widows coming out demanding an investigation into their loss.

Yes because accoutability is just for little people, no one in power, who runs the government should have take responsibility for their actions. So let's white wash 9-11 and not investigate potenial government incompetence and its role 9-11, from now on 9-11 will be used solely to bash those who disagree with the President.

[blind_fury]

Coulter is showing her true colors. She got tired of picking on poor people and environmentalists she moved on to picking on 9-11 widows. A real class act. :up:

[Man-Thing]

My honest opinion of Ann...

Some of the things she says makes me do a double take, and honestly I can see how some of the things can offend people (well, this would be weak willed people who think everyone should have the same opinions beliefs as themselves- sheep if you will. Why is it that what other people say can infuriate others to such a degree? I may never know)

But in all honesty, I think when she says these things rather untactfully, it causes people who "say" they believe in the first ammendment to spout off things like "she should be murdered". All of this animosity for what- something she said?

This isn't a right or left issue either, it's on both sides in which people act this way and I myself have been guilty of getting really riled up after something someone else has said, but the kicker is that it seems to me the left are really being hypocrites for calling for her censorship (usually through words that could encourage violence from other "sheep"). Nine times out of ten when someone who is left leaning mentions any of the ammendments found in the Bill of Rights it is the First.

In the end, it is just words, but it shows a lot about human nature and uncontrolable we all are. The equalivent would be to get offended by the sound of a E5 power cord, or the color red. And that's just silly.

[Batty for Bats!]

Q: What did the couch say to the man?

A: "I am a robot couch"


... Heh.:):up:

Edit: She's hot and smart. I think I'm in love. I may not agree, but at least she has passion.

[Addendum]

I don't think she should be murdered.

I just think she's an annoying c**t

[Truthteller]

So you have no problem with her mocking 9-11 widows, you think that's okay and not in very poor taste...That should have a question mark. But its not even an acurate statement. She is not mocking the 911 widows. She is debating with a SMALL subset of them. A very small subset. The ones that have made political statements, thereby choosing to enter into the realm of public debate.

...If liberal acted the way she acted (by calling all conversatives evil all the time) you would hate that person...You should learn to debate by stating your own thoughts and not presume to know mine. I would not hate anyone because of that and if you check my rather voluminous posts on this site, you will not be able to find a single case of me proclaiming "hate" for anyone.

It is exactly that emotional response rather than a reasonable response that I am talking about. To put forth that because someone has been victimized, they are then protected from criticism when they make public statements is half-baked sophistry. They have a right to say what they want. And so does someone who disagrees with them.

The reasonable approach would be to recognize that just because someone has been struck by a tragedy, does not make them more of an expert on technical policy matters.

[The Overlord]

That should have a question mark. But its not even an acurate statement. She is not mocking the 911 widows. She is debating with a SMALL subset of them. A very small subset. The ones that have made political statements, thereby choosing to enter into the realm of public debate.

You should learn to debate by stating your own thoughts and not presume to know mine. I would not hate anyone because of that and if you check my rather voluminous posts on this site, you will not be able to find a single case of me proclaiming "hate" for anyone.

It is exactly that emotional response rather than a reasonable response that I am talking about. To put forth that because someone has been victimized, they are then protected from criticism when they make public statements is half-baked sophistry. They have a right to say what they want. And so does someone who disagrees with them.

The reasonable approach would be to recognize that just because someone has been struck by a tragedy, does not make them more of an expert on technical policy matters.

So you don't dislike radical leftists like Noam Chomsky who say that America is a terrorist state for example? Perhaps hate is too strong a word, but I doubt you would like such people and thus I hope would you can understand why others would dislike Coulter.

Besides if there is a possbility that government incompetence had allowed 9-11 occur, shouldn't that be investigated and shouldn't people who are found to be incompetent be punished or do you believe that only little people should be held accountable for their actions?

Besides none of that changes the fact that Coulter cares far more about creating controversy, than saying something intelligent. She is nothing than shock jock, an overhyped Howard Stern and all she does is lower the tone of political debate in our society. She is an attention whore and all she will get from me is my contempt.

[ScottyBBadd]

I have never read anything by her. I prefer to reserve judgment until I do.

[Addendum]

I have never read anything by her. I prefer to reserve judgment until I do.
I've not read nothing of hers either. Her comments on TV will do

[ScottyBBadd]

I've not read nothing of hers either. Her comments on TV will do

I have not seen her comments on t.v either.

[Addendum]

I have not seen her comments on t.v either.
Step 1: Remove TV from box
Step 2: Insert cord into wall socket
Step 3: Switch the TV on
Step 4: Contact your local cable provider or satellite dealer if you want more channels

[Abaddon]

I have not seen her comments on t.v either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xv05FK69KU

[kainedamo]

She is blunt, but correct. As tragic as 911 was, they need to get on with their lives.

You didn't see Pearl Harbour widows coming out demanding an investigation into their loss.

That is very stupid. Are you saying the widows should just take the governments word concerning what happened on 9/11? A full investigation is the least that could have been done. Bush had some bull**** excuse like "if we did an investigation, it would show the enemy how we do things". That doesn't make a lick of sense.

[ScottyBBadd]

Step 1: Remove TV from box
Step 2: Insert cord into wall socket
Step 3: Switch the TV on
Step 4: Contact your local cable provider or satellite dealer if you want more channels

I have done all that. Still have not seen her comments.

[Addendum]

I have done all that. Still have not seen her comments.
Get a better optometrist

[ScottyBBadd]

Get a better optometrist

The perscription for my contacts is up to date. However thanks to a liks Abandon left I was able to see her t.v appearences. She was just too funny.

[C.F. Kane]

Okay, I retract my earlier comments. I like having her around...

...as a punching bag

[Superman4ever]

why not load a bunch of C4 into her cooch and set it off.

No, too quick she needs to suffer!

She has a right to say what she said, but I think it's obnoxiously cruel.

And this:


LMMFWAO!

Is that like a stuttering laugh?

LMAO...I know what it means, but that is ****ing priceless! :up: :D

[sinewave]

My honest opinion of Ann...

Some of the things she says makes me do a double take, and honestly I can see how some of the things can offend people (well, this would be weak willed people who think everyone should have the same opinions beliefs as themselves- sheep if you will. Why is it that what other people say can infuriate others to such a degree? I may never know)

But in all honesty, I think when she says these things rather untactfully, it causes people who "say" they believe in the first ammendment to spout off things like "she should be murdered". All of this animosity for what- something she said?

This isn't a right or left issue either, it's on both sides in which people act this way and I myself have been guilty of getting really riled up after something someone else has said, but the kicker is that it seems to me the left are really being hypocrites for calling for her censorship (usually through words that could encourage violence from other "sheep"). Nine times out of ten when someone who is left leaning mentions any of the ammendments found in the Bill of Rights it is the First.

In the end, it is just words, but it shows a lot about human nature and uncontrolable we all are. The equalivent would be to get offended by the sound of a E5 power cord, or the color red. And that's just silly.


ann coulter doesn't really add anything to the political debate. if you look at all her books and articles, the entire point of them is to attack everything left of center. that's her entire basis for everything. she's obviously got a vendetta against the left and can get very petty about it. look at her book titles:

"Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right"
"How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must): The World According to Ann Coulter"
"Godless: The Church of Liberalism"
"Treason : Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism"

all without a hint of irony. now, don't get me wrong, she's free to say whatever she wants, i don't care. but the fact that she's so sensationalistic and claims to be right on so many things, while in fact she's been caught in plenty of lies, it makes me question the sanity of people who actually take her seriously. she may be intelligent and well educated, but she's far from brilliant and rarely insightful. she reminds me of a younger version of the mom on arrested develoment; fridged, narcissistic and antagonistic. i'll try and put together a list of lies she's been caught in later.

[Kritish]

I'm thinking the spike dildo death like in Seven.:o

[Superman]

That should have a question mark. But its not even an acurate statement. She is not mocking the 911 widows. She is debating with a SMALL subset of them. A very small subset. The ones that have made political statements, thereby choosing to enter into the realm of public debate.

Not mocking them???? I'm sorry but when she says stuff like...

"And by the way, how do we know their husbands weren't planning to divorce these harpies? Now that their shelf life is dwindling, they'd better hurry up and appear in Playboy..."


That's mocking in my book. If anyone is a harpie it's her.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198597,00.html

[jaguarr]

Not mocking them???? I'm sorry but when she says stuff like...

"And by the way, how do we know their husbands weren't planning to divorce these harpies? Now that their shelf life is dwindling, they'd better hurry up and appear in Playboy..."


That's mocking in my book. If anyone is a harpie it's her.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198597,00.html


Wow. Even a normally fairly conservative writer (Straka) at a pretty conservative news outlet is damning her for this. Interesting.

jag

[Darthphere]

Wow. Even a normally fairly conservative writer (Straka) at a pretty conservative news outlet is damning her for this. Interesting.

jag


Ann Coulter brings the world together.

[ScottyBBadd]

Wow. Even a normally fairly conservative writer (Straka) at a pretty conservative news outlet is damning her for this. Interesting.

jag

Not surprised. Ann Coulter tries too hard to be a female Rush Limbaugh, but she is just too funny.

[jaguarr]

Not surprised. Ann Coulter tries too hard to be a female Rush Limbaugh, but she is just too funny.

She does try pretty hard to be flame bait. To the point that any legitimacy she might have had in any of her arguments is completely lost as far as I'm concerned. She makes for good entertainment and conservative cannon fodder, but I don't know why anyone would take her seriously at all.

jag

[Darthphere]

She does try pretty hard to be flame bait. To the point that any legitimacy she might have had in any of her arguments is completely lost as far as I'm concerned. She makes for good entertainment and conservative cannon fodder, but I don't know why anyone would take her seriously at all.

jag


Or buy her book for that matter.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/new-for-you/top-sellers/-/books/283155/ref=pd_ts_tb_h/002-9380367-6578469

[jaguarr]

Or buy her book for that matter.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/new-for-you/top-sellers/-/books/283155/ref=pd_ts_tb_h/002-9380367-6578469

Oh, I can see people buying her book purely for entertainment and the outrageous crap that she says. The idea that some people think that it's anything more than that, though, is frightening. I know so many conservatives who just wish she'd shut the hell up because they feel she does infinitely more damage to their cause than she does help them. I'd tend to agree with them and I could certainly be labelled a social liberal.

jag

[kane9321]

she really needs to be shot, its increidble what a tall, blonde, far right winged devil can get away with

[Truthteller]

Not mocking them???? I'm sorry but when she says stuff like...

"And by the way, how do we know their husbands weren't planning to divorce these harpies? Now that their shelf life is dwindling, they'd better hurry up and appear in Playboy..."


That's mocking in my book. If anyone is a harpie it's her.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198597,00.htmlI agree of course that her language is harsh and disturbing.

But my point is that she is not mocking all of them, ie; the widows of 911. She is only mocking those few that have expressed a distinct political agenda. This is only a VERY SMALL SUBSET of 911 widows. I found this reference:

"Just Four Moms from New Jersey are Kristen Breitweiser, Patty Casazza, Mindy Kleinberg and Lorie van Auken. They are often referred to as the "9/11 widows" and more formally as the September 11th Advocates group."

So when the media refers to "the 911 widows" it sounds like they are refering to the thousands of females and families that were affected, but it really means just four rather vocal and politically motivated left wing activists.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I'm a little surprised by the number of people wishing her a painful death because of the words she speaks.:confused:

[cass]

she really needs to be shot, its increidble what a tall, blonde, far right winged devil can get away with

Yes, people who say stuff you disagree with should be shot. I thought conservatives were the fascists?

[ScottyBBadd]

She does try pretty hard to be flame bait. To the point that any legitimacy she might have had in any of her arguments is completely lost as far as I'm concerned. She makes for good entertainment and conservative cannon fodder, but I don't know why anyone would take her seriously at all.

jag

I can't take her seriously, but I get a good laugh from her. So it's all good.

[jaguarr]

I'm a little surprised by the number of people wishing her a painful death because of the words she speaks.:confused:

Yeah, it's surprising to me as well. I wouldn't ever wish death on anyone. I do wish obscurity upon her, though, which in her case is probably worse than wishing her dead. :D

jag

[Emrys]

Ann Coulter brings the world together.
Well yes! :)... allthough they just come together to hunt her with torches and Pitchforks :(

[ScottyBBadd]

Well yes! :)... allthough they just come together to hunt her with torches and Pitchforks :(

Ya think.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

which in her case is probably worse than wishing her dead. :DTruth

[Emrys]

she really needs to be shot, its increidble what a tall, blonde, far right winged devil can get away with

I always refer to her lovingly as the "Wicked Witch of the West" :)

[Superman]

I agree of course that her language is harsh and disturbing.

But my point is that she is not mocking all of them, ie; the widows of 911. She is only mocking those few that have expressed a distinct political agenda. This is only a VERY SMALL SUBSET of 911 widows. I found this reference:

"Just Four Moms from New Jersey are Kristen Breitweiser, Patty Casazza, Mindy Kleinberg and Lorie van Auken. They are often referred to as the "9/11 widows" and more formally as the September 11th Advocates group."

So when the media refers to "the 911 widows" it sounds like they are refering to the thousands of females and families that were affected, but it really means just four rather vocal and politically motivated left wing activists.I don't care if it was just one widow, The marital status of any of them has nothing to do with the 9/11 debate.

[kane9321]

Yes, people who say stuff you disagree with should be shot. I thought conservatives were the fascists?


oh please..anybody can disagree with me its your right to do so..but this broad goes way the f$$& overboard..she's a straight up nut job,and anyone who likes or agrees with the comments she makes needs help:down

[cass]

oh please..anybody can disagree with me its your right to do so..but this broad goes way the f$$& overboard..she's a straight up nut job,and anyone who likes or agrees with the comments she makes needs help:down

So help comes from her being shot?

[Darthphere]

Im waiting for cass to actually make a point.

[jaguarr]

Im waiting for cass to actually make a point.

http://www.alles.or.jp/~jit/snickers.gif

jag

[Truthteller]

I don't care if it was just one widow, The marital status of any of them has nothing to do with the 9/11 debate.They are the ones that are trying to use their marital status (ie - 911 widows) to further their political agenda. They are using their position as victims of 911.

Thats fine. They are certainly allowed. But it also means that they are not afforded special protection from debate once they enter the political arena.

[ScottyBBadd]

They are the ones that are trying to use their marital status (ie - 911 widows) to further their political agenda. They are using their position as victims of 911.

Thats fine. They are certainly allowed. But it also means that they are not afforded special protection from debate once they enter the political arena.

Or having their motives questioned.

[Emrys]

They are the ones that are trying to use their marital status (ie - 911 widows) to further their political agenda. They are using their position as victims of 911.

Thats fine. They are certainly allowed. But it also means that they are not afforded special protection from debate once they enter the political arena.

debate is one thing

lunatic, libelous ranting is another and believe me I know what I'm talking about I'm an expert at it.

On the other hand imagine me and Ann having a shoutout... that would be funny :D

[ScottyBBadd]

debate is one thing

lunatic, libelous ranting is another and believe me I know what I'm talking about I'm an expert at it.

On the other hand imagine me and Ann having a shoutout... that would be funny :D

I'd watch it.

[cass]

On the other hand imagine me and Ann having a shoutout... that would be funny :D

You'd be destroyed.

[Emrys]

You'd be destroyed.

Oh you wish, I'd pown her :D

[cass]

Oh you wish, I'd pown her :D

Your debating skills, "Guysss, why can't we all jussst love everybody. Ssstupid Americansss." She'd rape you, but you're used to that.

[ScottyBBadd]

Oh you wish, I'd pown her :D

Irregardless of who "won" it would still entertain.

[Darthphere]

Your debating skills, "Guysss, why can't we all jussst love everybody. Ssstupid Americansss." She'd rape you, but you're used to that.


*a glacier swims by while waiting for cass to make a point.*

[Wilhelm-Scream]

IrregardlessWhoah. I haven't seen that one in a long time.
A long, glorious, beautiful time.

[cass]

*a glacier swims by while waiting for cass to make a point.*

Trying to build up the post count there I see.

[Emrys]

Your debating skills, "Guysss, why can't we all jussst love everybody. Ssstupid Americansss." She'd rape you, but you're used to that.

Hey that's at least as good as her "Godless liberals... traitors... kill them all!" routine.

Besides you didn't read some of my older post, as Jag here can testify I can be quite a raving lunatic myself :p

[kane9321]

So help comes from her being shot?


it'll help me:up:

[jaguarr]

Whoah. I haven't seen that one in a long time.
A long, glorious, beautiful time.

I had a friend argue with me over the weekend that "irregardless" isn't a real word. I told them to call me when they get access to a dictionary and let me know who was right. They called me Monday and conceded defeat. :up:

jag

[Darthphere]

Trying to build up the post count there I see.


*Ive seen evolution while waiting for cass to make a point*

[Truthteller]

IrregardlessWhoah. I haven't seen that one in a long time.
A long, glorious, beautiful time.Even better: Disirregardless :confused:

:D

[cass]

Hey that's at least as good as her "Godless liberals... traitors... kill them all!" routine.

Apparently you've never actually read any of her work. Just use quotes out of context and whatever your buddies tell you they heard about her.

[Truthteller]

cass is right about Ann's scholarly work. She is brilliant. A true constitutional scholar.

[Darthphere]

Apparently you've never actually read any of her work. Just use quotes out of context and whatever your buddies tell you they heard about her.


Then why not *gasp* make a point in her defense?

[Emrys]

Apparently you've never actually read any of her work. Just use quotes out of context and whatever your buddies tell you they heard about her.

I've read samples and normally stopped after two or three sentences cause the sheer stupidity was too much to take.

On the other had you seem to know about her books pretty well, do we have an avid fan here by any chance? :p :D

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Then why not *gasp* make a point in her defense?You point-Nazi.:(

[Emrys]

cass is right about Ann's scholarly work. She is brilliant. A true constitutional scholar.

Maybe, but a lousy debater and her books aren't exactly what you would call scholary, quite the opposite actually.

[Darthphere]

You point-Nazi.:(


Im sorry.:(

[Truthteller]

TruthYes? :)

[cass]

Then why not *gasp* make a point in her defense?

Defend her from what, fanboys talking about how they'd rape and kill her? Because that's all that I've seen here.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Yes? :)gwa-harr

[cass]

her books aren't exactly what you would call scholary, quite the opposite actually.

Seeing as how you've admitted to never reading her books, what do you have to back up your statement?

[Darthphere]

Defend her from what, fanboys talking about how they'd rape and kill her? Because that's all that I've seen here.


So you really have nothing to say except to insult people? Ok.

[cass]

So you really have nothing to say except to insult people? Ok.

Isn't this what this thread is? "Rape and Kill Ann Coulter because she like says stuff".

[jaguarr]

Defend her from what, fanboys talking about how they'd rape and kill her? Because that's all that I've seen here.

Sorry, but that's not entirely true. There have been some very good discussions both for and against her approach and delivery. Interesting how more reasonable arguments can get lost amidst the extremist hyperbole, isn't it? :)

jag

[Darthphere]

Isn't this what this thread is? "Rape and Kill Ann Coulter because she like says stuff".


No, theres actual discussion going on.

[Darthphere]

Sorry, but that's not entirely true. There have been some very good discussions both for and against her approach and delivery. Interesting how more reasonable arguments can get lost amidst the extremist hyperbole, isn't it? :)

jag


What he said.

[Emrys]

Seeing as how you've admitted to never reading her books, what do you have to back up your statement?

Well it certainly is not scholary standard to call people "harpies" for example or use catchphrases like "Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right" "Godless: The Church of Liberalism" "Treason : Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism"

[Emrys]

Isn't this what this thread is? "Rape and Kill Ann Coulter because she like says stuff".

No it's more like "maybe she'd have a point if she would present them in a civilized manner instead of ranting like a deranged lunatic"

[cass]

Ramble, ramble, build post count.

And between those whose points are being made, they're well covered. Truthteller is doing an excellent job. Too bad you have to wade through so many "She's a dumb ****, I'd **** her then slit her ******* throat, the dumb *****."

[Wilhelm-Scream]

So you really have nothing to say except to insult people? Ok.Sorry, but your harping on cass about this strikes me as bizarre behaviour. Did you harp on these gents?

Is it just me, or has the universe become much more stupid in the last few weeks?
Coulter what a harpy.

I wish breast and throat cancer on her.
I'd **** her then throw her into a pool of acid.
Ann Coulter is such a *****.

[Darthphere]

Sorry, but your harping on cass about this strikes me as bizarre behaviour. Did you harp on these gents?


No, Wilhelm. I harp on cass bcause this is a pattern in her/his posting. Never making a point, just insulting people.

[cass]

Well it certainly is not scholary standard to call people "harpies" for example or use catchphrases like "Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right" "Godless: The Church of Liberalism" "Treason : Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism"

Ever heard of "Never judge a book by it's cover"? Her books are scholarly, she throws in a ton of research and makes excellent points, of course you wouldn't know that having never actually read her work, just going along with the crowd.

[Darthphere]

And between those whose points are being made, they're well covered. Truthteller is doing an excellent job. Too bad you have to wade through so many "She's a dumb ****, I'd **** her then slit her ******* throat, the dumb *****."


Yeah, youre right, poor Ann. Thanks for helping build my post count, you seem intimidated by it or something since you keep bringing it up.

[Emrys]

Sorry, but your harping on cass about this strikes me as bizarre behaviour. Did you harp on these gents?

well she fits the ***** comment nicely after all a Biatch is a femal dog who tends to be prone to agression during a certain time of the year.

[cass]

No, Wilhelm. I harp on cass bcause this is a pattern in her/his posting. Never making a point, just insulting people.

It seems you really like me or something. Sorry to inform you, but I don't swing that way. Feel free to hit on Embrys though.

[Darthphere]

Sorry to inform you, but I don't swing that way. Feel free to hit on Embrys though.


I rest my case.

[Emrys]

Ever heard of "Never judge a book by it's cover"? Her books are scholarly, she throws in a ton of research and makes excellent points, of course you wouldn't know that having never actually read her work, just going along with the crowd.

I highly doubt a book titled "Treason : Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism" has any scholary merrit at all, sounds more like it's chokefull of every stereotype a conservative could think of when a Liberal is concerned.

A true scholar does not work with such opinionated catch phrases because it makes his whole argument subjective.

[cass]

Yeah, youre right, poor Ann. Thanks for helping build my post count, you seem intimidated by it or something since you keep bringing it up.

You seem like you have a massive man crush on me, trying to ride me so hard.

[Emrys]

It seems you really like me or something. Sorry to inform you, but I don't swing that way. Feel free to hit on Embrys though.

actually I find it pretty amusing that you assume just because I'm a gay rights activist that I'm actually gay. :) Talk about conservatives and stereotypes.

[Slipknot]

Sorry, but your harping on cass about this strikes me as bizarre behaviour. Did you harp on these gents?
I called her a *****... I didn't wish death upon her...

[Darthphere]

You seem like you have a massive man crush on me, trying to ride me so hard.


Youre right. I really hope they dont outlaw gay marriage so i can fulfill my dream with you.:up:

[cass]

I highly doubt a book titled "Treason : Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism" has any scholary merrit at all,
Why don't you read it for yourself and find out?

[Wilhelm-Scream]

No, Wilhelm. I harp on cass bcause this is a pattern in her/his posting. Never making a point, just insulting people.When I got here he was taking issue with the person that said she should be shot, making the point that that's wrong and, I would extrapolate, that there is a lot of liberal hypocrisy here because no doubt, if a staunch right-winger was calling for the rape, mutilation and murder of Al Franken because he said something they didn't agree with, they would call that person a terrifying facsist f***-wad.

Valid point in my book.

[Darthphere]

When I got here he was taking issue with the person that said she should be shot, making the point that that's wrong and, I would extrapolate, that there is a lot of liberal hypocrisy here because no doubt, if a staunch right-winger was calling for the rape, mutilation and murder of Al Franken because he said something they didn't agree with, they would call that person a terrifying facsist f***-wad.

Valid point in my book.


Probably, still doesnt chnage the fact that actual discussion has been taking place.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I called her a *****... I didn't wish death upon her...Yeah, no s***, I quoted you.
D.Phere was saying that cass only insults people. "B****" is an insult.

[Emrys]

Why don't you read it for yourself and find out?

Because I don't like getting riled up by the mental rubbish of someone like her. If she can't display a certain tone and manner in a debate that I'd call common cortesy I don't intend to listen to a word she says. Or in that case read a word she writes. besides i doubt she has anything else to say than the tired old bile I have read on conservative sites like Freerepublic or Concerned women for america. it's always the same ****.

[Darthphere]

Yeah, no s***, I quoted you.
D.Phere was saying that cass only insults people. "B****" is an insult.


D.Phere makes me sound like a crappy rapper.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Probably, still doesnt chnage the fact that actual discussion has been taking place.Yes, the timeless debate..."Pool of Acid" or "Spiked Dildo"?

:rolleyes:

[Wilhelm-Scream]

D.Phere makes me sound like a crappy rapper.Lol, yeah, I noticed that, so I left it, hahaha

[cass]

Because I don't like getting riled up by the mental rubbish of someone like her. If she can't display a certain tone and manner in a debate that I'd call common cortesy I don't intend to listen to a word she says. Or in that case read a word she writes. besides i doubt she has anything else to say than the tired old bile I have read on conservative sites like Freerepublic or Concerned women for america. it's always the same ****.

Then why make accusations when you have nothing to back it up and will not even attempt to have something to back it up?

[Slipknot]

When I got here he was taking issue with the person that said she should be shot, making the point that that's wrong and, I would extrapolate, that there is a lot of liberal hypocrisy here because no doubt, if a staunch right-winger was calling for the rape, mutilation and murder of Al Franken because he said something they didn't agree with, they would call that person a terrifying facsist f***-wad.

Valid point in my book.
Cass always does this. Just look in other threads... he only comes in to defend the Conservative who is getting trashed... he comes in and quotes a Liberal user's post and then takes shots at the person and generalizes. Cass contributes nothing to any thread other than getting in a big argument with others.

[jaguarr]

"Teacher, they started it!" *points finger*

"Nuh-uhhhh! YOU did! *points finger back*

Everyone go to your corners for a ten minute time out! :mad:

jag

[cass]

Cass always does this. Just look in other threads... he only comes in to defend the Conservative who is getting trashed... he comes in and quotes a Liberal user's post and then takes shots at the person and generalizes. Cass contributes nothing to any thread other than getting in a big argument with others.

Whoa, thought Ann Coulter broke the Hype there for a moment.

Oh, sorry, it's just when I see a liberal gang rape of a fellow conservative, I feel obliged to step in.

[Ronny Shade]

D.Phere makes me sound like a crappy rapper.
Crappy rap names are the best ones. But you should be D-Fear.

[Darthphere]

Whoa, thought Ann Coulter broke the Hype there for a moment.

Oh, sorry, it's just when I see a liberal gang rape of a fellow conservative, I feel obliged to step in.


Good for you.:up:

[Wilhelm-Scream]

"Teacher, they started it!" *points finger*

"Nuh-uhhhh! YOU did! *points finger back*

Everyone go to your corners for a ten minute time out! :mad:

jagYou weren't f***in' around.:eek:

[jaguarr]

You weren't f***in' around.:eek:

No one ever listens to me until it's too late. I warned ya!

jag

[Darthphere]

It was more than 10 minutes liar!

[jaguarr]

It was more than 10 minutes liar!

*raises eyebrows*

Don't take that tone with me, young man. Or perhaps you'd like another time out?

jag

[C.F. Kane]

Whoa, thought Ann Coulter broke the Hype there for a moment.

Oh, sorry, it's just when I see a liberal gang rape of a fellow conservative, I feel obliged to step in.

...

"Liberal Gang Rape"

...

That's too bizarre for me to comment on.

[sinewave]

Whoa, thought Ann Coulter broke the Hype there for a moment.

Oh, sorry, it's just when I see a liberal gang rape of a fellow conservative, I feel obliged to step in.

do you agree with everything every conservative says or believes, just because they're "on your side"?

either way, ann coulter is a big girl and can stand up for herself. i doubt she needs your help. she knows exactly what she's doing when she makes these outrageous and inflammatory statements. she's just trying to stir up more hatred and attention from the left-wing. she's more shameless than michael moore, and that's saying a lot.

[Darthphere]

do you agree with everything every conservative says or believes, just because they're "on your side"?

either way, ann coulter is a big girl and can stand up for herself. i doubt she needs your help. she knows exactly what she's doing when she makes these outrageous and inflammatory statements. she's just trying to stir up more hatred and attention from the left-wing. she's more shameless than michael moore, and that's saying a lot.


Ann Coulter on the Hype, that would be so awesome.

[C.F. Kane]

Whoa, thought Ann Coulter broke the Hype there for a moment.

Oh, sorry, it's just when I see a liberal gang rape of a fellow conservative, I feel obliged to step in.

Are you just defending her out of party loyalty then? Do you believe what she says at all?

I mean, it's fine if you don't. But do you?

[cass]

Are you just defending her out of party loyalty then? Do you believe what she says at all?

I mean, it's fine if you don't. But do you?

What I wrote was in response to Slipknot's whining that I do this everywhere. It's irrelevant to this. There's nothing to defend in here, I'm just pointing out the sheer stupidity and sickness of the attacks written here when some people clearly have no clue what she writes about, just uses hearsay and quotes out of context.

[Darthphere]

You didnt answer the question.

[cass]

You didnt answer the question.

I don't think I was responding to you.

[Abaddon]

I think its strange that people purposely ignore her outrageous and offensive comments as if they have no effect on her argument.

[sinewave]

What I wrote was in response to Slipknot's whining that I do this everywhere. It's irrelevant to this. There's nothing to defend in here, I'm just pointing out the sheer stupidity and sickness of the attacks written here when some people clearly have no clue what she writes about, just uses hearsay and quotes out of context.

okay, i haven't wished her a painful death or a harsh beating. i've tried to make valid points and not throw names around (surprising for me, i know ;)). can you respond to some of my questions? i honestly haven't seen you make any points, other than to attack a few of the knuckle-heads who've called for her death or gang-rape. what drives you to come to her defense? i'm sure you would agree that going on telelvision and vilifying widows of a national tragedy is in bad taste, no?

[cass]

okay, i haven't wished her a painful death or a harsh beating. i've tried to make valid points and not throw names around (surprising for me, i know ;)). can you respond to some of my questions? i honestly haven't seen you make any points, other than to attack a few of the knuckle-heads who've called for her death or gang-rape. what drives you come to her defense? i'm sure you would agree that going on telelvision and vilifying widows of a national tragedy is in bad taste, no?

I think you're falling right into what Ann Coulter says, that liberals have built defenses around these four widows, Cindy Sheehan, etc. saying that you can never question them, or call them out for something outrageous they've said because they're "victims".

[Abaddon]

I think you're falling right into what Ann Coulter says, that liberals have built defenses around these four widows, Cindy Sheehan, etc. saying that you can never question them, or call them out for something outrageous they've said because they're "victims".


That hasn't stopped her from making comments about them reveling in their husbands deaths.

[Addendum]

I read one of her books, "Treason" and when she defended McCarthy, I had to take the book back to the library. I almost ruptured an internal organ since I was laughing so hard.

[Darthphere]

I don't think I was responding to you.


Touchy.

[sinewave]

I think you're falling right into what Ann Coulter says, that liberals have built defenses around these four widows, Cindy Sheehan, etc. saying that you can never question them, or call them out for something outrageous they've said because they're "victims".

i've never said that you can't question them, so please don't group me in with all liberals. all i said was that the way she went about it was in poor taste. look, if ann coulter had a problem with their political agenda then by all means, she had every right to respond to that, but to revel in their pain and make obnoxious comments like, "These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by griefparrazies. I have never seen people enjoying their husband’s death so much." and then going on to refer to them as "harpies" and wishing that their dead husbands had cheated on them or divorced them prior to the disaster. that doesn't seem mean spirited to you? all because they dared to have a different opinion and political ideology than her? why not make valid points against their charges instead of stooping to making personal attacks on them? she's not presenting anything more than shallow animosity and spite. why defend that? regardless of political affiliation, you have to admit that's pretty sleazy.

[Abaddon]

It's incredibly sleazy,and does more to discredit her more than anything.

[Truthteller]

Oh boy... Some good stuff here:

Ann Coulter Fires Back
In an interview with TIME's John Cloud, the conservative author responds to the conflagration over her criticism of 9/11 widows http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1202110,00.html

Its new just posted today June 8 2006.

Part of it:

TIME: ...Why couldn't you offer your (already provocative) point that some “9/11 victims turned themselves into the arbiters of what anyone could say about 9/11” without the name-calling?

AC: Name calling? The use of language is “name calling.” Harpies and witches is what I think they are, which is why I used those words. And I must say, I certainly have spotlighted the issue with my alleged “name-calling.” The entire country is now riveted on the left's device of using victims to advance their half-baked, unsaleable ideas. From now on, every time the left showcases another sobbing, hysterical woman as their spokesperson, people will say — “gosh she looks like she's having a good time.” So I'd say my “name calling” has been a smashing success. And by the way, I've got a few more names in my bag.
-------------

TIME: ...I'm 35, and when I got to the sentence in Chapter 7 that began “A 1985 issue of People magazine…,” I got pretty bored. Won't this seem like ancient history to readers?

AC: I, along with Lynn Cheney, have little patience for young people's boredom with history.
------------

TIME: Finally, the greatest contradiction about you is that you can be charming and personable when you meet new people, even liberals whom you stridently oppose. (I've seen you be quite sweet to both Janet Reno AND New York City journalists.) And yet you are so acid and unforgiving on TV and in print. That makes a lot of people think either the charm or the harshness is an act. Which is it?

AC: The charm is real and so are the opinions. I just don't give an inch in response to liberal bullying, which is apparently interpreted as “mean.”

[Truthteller]

And by "stuff" I mean cannon foder. :D

And by "good" I mean possibly bad, depending on your political persuasion of course. :confused: :o

[Wilhelm-Scream]

sounds great to me, and a-freaking-men to the part about name-calling.
Words are NAMES for things+people and we humans are advanced enough to name things in a poetic, figurative OR literal way, and I love it.

The notion of this desired THX-1138 "Utopia" where no one's pulse ever quickens and no one's face ever reddens and no one ever nastily snickers and no one's ever sarcastic and everyone holds hands with their sworn enemies and politely "agrees to disagree" makes me ill.