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[A]

11-09-2008, 11:20 PM

I like him already :woot:

Johnston started his career as an artist at Lucasfilm, having famously provided the final designs for Star Wars characters Yoda and Boba Fett. He won an academy award for his visual effects work on Raiders of the Lost Ark. Supossedly Johnston and George Lucas got close, and Joe was invited to cit in during George’s editing sessions. Later when Joe announced that he would be leaving the company to travel the world with the money he had saved up, Lucas convinced him to attend his alma mater USC film School, and even paid his tuition.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/11/09/joe-johnston-to-direct-captain-america/

deathshead2

11-09-2008, 11:22 PM

Wow Joe is maybe the luckiest director ever. Lucas pays for your college, and Speliberg gives you your biggest project with JP3 based on a promise.

bunk

11-09-2008, 11:26 PM

Actors Johnston has directed

Bill Campbell
Jennifer Connelly
Alan Arkin
Timothy Dalton
Paul Sorvino
Terry O'Quinn
Robin Williams
Kirsten Dunst
Jake Gyllenhaal
Chris Cooper
Laura Dern
Sam Neill
William H. Macy
Tea Leoni
Viggo Mortensen
J.K. Simmons
Anthony Hopkins
Benicio Del Toro
Hugo Weaving
Emily Blunt

TheVileOne

11-09-2008, 11:29 PM

He's got a decent if somewhat mixed filmography. I'll see what he has to say first.

I think Jurassic Park 3 and Hidalgo were pretty mediocre. I do like Rocketeer.

deathshead2

11-09-2008, 11:29 PM

Now all we have to do is wait for who the screenwriters, Cap, and Red Skull will be.

Hugo Weaving for Red Skull!

Chewy

11-09-2008, 11:31 PM

I wonder why Feige chose to comment on the Cap director, but not Branagh?

TheVileOne

11-09-2008, 11:31 PM

Uh don't we know one of the screenwriters? Wasn't David Self writing it a while ago? So we knew who one of the early writers was/is at least.

Chewy

11-09-2008, 11:35 PM

Uh don't we know one of the screenwriters? Wasn't David Self writing it a while ago? So we knew who one of the early writers was/is at least.

From the article @ Hollywood Reporter:

No writers are on board, but the studio, which is hearing pitches, expects to hire shortly.

Gotham

11-09-2008, 11:35 PM

A little out of left field, but I welcome the choice. :up:

TheVileOne

11-09-2008, 11:42 PM

So does that mean they are starting from total scratch for the script?

chiefchirpa

11-09-2008, 11:53 PM

David Self is a moron. Bring on Ed Brubaker.

Hunter Rider

11-10-2008, 12:01 AM

I think he's a solid choice, not a wow inducing one but has the ability to make a good Cap movie IMO.

[A]

11-10-2008, 12:02 AM

Has the guy ever made a period piece..?

PyroChamber

11-10-2008, 12:02 AM

Since he knows a little about designing characters, maybe he can bring some input in on designing Cap's costume.

And now that we have a director, they can start focusing on the REAL task...finding a star.

deathshead2

11-10-2008, 12:04 AM

Has the guy ever made a period piece..?
Does it really matter?

No other choice Marvel has made had real backgrounds in what they doing.

[A]

11-10-2008, 12:04 AM

Does it really matter?
I can't ask..?

The attitude of some people :whatever:

Snikt

11-10-2008, 12:04 AM

Has the guy ever made a period piece..?

The Rocketeer. Awesome movie from my late childhood. Americans fighting Nazis. Can't get any better than that.

[A]

11-10-2008, 12:05 AM

The Rocketeer. Awesome movie from my late childhood. Americans fighting Nazis. Can't get any better than that.

Thanks :up:

deathshead2

11-10-2008, 12:07 AM

I can't ask..?

The attitude of some people :whatever:You can ask. I just don't know why it matters.

Jerk

Snikt

11-10-2008, 12:08 AM

Thanks :up:

No prob. Love the avatar. Hilarious. But if you haven't seen The Rocketeer, definitely check it out.

If you have kids, it's a great family flick too:woot:

Lobo

11-10-2008, 12:10 AM

This a nice solid, albeit unexpected choice. This should be on the SHH front page too.

Bubastis

11-10-2008, 12:25 AM

Crap.

This movie is supposed to be a character-driven period action drama, not a Special Effects extravaganza.

11-10-2008, 12:26 AM

Solid choice. :up:

[A]

11-10-2008, 12:28 AM

No prob. Love the avatar. Hilarious. But if you haven't seen The Rocketeer, definitely check it out.

If you have kids, it's a great family flick too:woot:

Thanks for the avvy comment :woot: and NO I DON'T HAVE KIDS--gods forbid :funny:

Intruder1092

11-10-2008, 12:35 AM

Wooooo!!!!!! Yeah baby yeah!!!!! Wooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

[A]

11-10-2008, 12:37 AM

Yahoooooo!!! *I love to share other people's enthusiasm*

MarvelMovies

11-10-2008, 12:43 AM

Symbiotic

11-10-2008, 12:46 AM

Johnston's a-ok with me. Let's get this movie made!

Sawyer

11-10-2008, 12:53 AM

Hey! He directed The Pagemaster! :up:

The Chibi Kiriyama

11-10-2008, 12:56 AM

The guy does some good period pieces, and the only one of his films (barring Hidalgo, which I did not go to see) that I disliked was Jurassic Park III. So I'm all for Johnston being attached. Now we can start expecting some developments with The First Avenger, like a new screenwriter and actors.

Saint

11-10-2008, 01:09 AM

Jurassic Park III was weak, but his other films are solid. I suspect this will be a good choice, regardless of the fact that none of his movies expressly qualify him to direct a superhero film.

[A]

11-10-2008, 01:11 AM

I'm checking most of his movies in the next weeks.. that's for sure.

DBZ2cool

11-10-2008, 01:12 AM

I dont' know why but I am getting a strong feeling that this guy is perfect for Captain America.

Don't ask me why but I am pretty sure that as a director he will do great job. Now we have to see who is gonna be CA.

Jon Faverau wasn't all that good in my books but he delivered superb movie.

I am very curious to know who will direct THE AVENGERS!! Louis Letteriur probably won't because he is busy with clash of titans and some other flick. Jon will be done IM2 so maybe he will jump right into The Avengers.

I think Joe Jhonston might end up directing both Captain America & The Avengers in one go.

JTHM777

11-10-2008, 01:35 AM

I always thought he would be a perfik choice. I am more excited than ever.

Whiskey Tango

11-10-2008, 01:45 AM

Who at Marvel is making these totally out of left field choices for directors?

Not saying it's a bad thing! At first I was like "um, who?" but after I checked out his imdb page I can see why they picked him.

I remain optimistic and faithful. Favs and Leterrier were both great picks, who am I to argue?

I guess this finally kills Avi's "Man Out of Time, let's gloss over WWII and get to modern day in 30 minutes" version.

I wonder if they're working from David Self's script or starting over?

Damn. Captain America. It's really happening.:wow:

cabel

11-10-2008, 01:52 AM

The Rocketeer-Underated Classic
Jurassic Park 3 - decent
October Sky - excellent
Honey I shrunk the Kids - Rick F'n Moranis! nuff said.
Jumanji - fun
The Pagemaster - been a while, but I recall enjoying it.

Cosmic

11-10-2008, 02:03 AM

[A]

11-10-2008, 02:06 AM

I love it how this guy's been in talks to do this for years and yet none of us ever know.

Spider-Mania2

11-10-2008, 02:35 AM

I think I like this, Jumanji, Rocketeer, and HISTK, are some of my fav movies of all time, rocketeer high up there, but the other 2 not so, but still there.

So, hopefully the script that he has to work with is good as well, the director has some responsibility, but the writers have to take a lot of the blame.

Pluto

11-10-2008, 02:52 AM

The Rocketeer was a period piece.

Project862006

11-10-2008, 03:02 AM

this is good favs did elf and zathura before ironman remember

HulkStomps!

11-10-2008, 03:55 AM

I really look forward to hearing who he chooses for the role of Capt.!

R_Hythlodeus

11-10-2008, 04:32 AM

A superhero fighting Nazis in WW2?
Sounds like Rocketeer to me!

CaptainAmerica

11-10-2008, 04:33 AM

Well, The Rocketeer was alright. I guess Marvel could've done worse.

Spider-Mania2

11-10-2008, 04:45 AM

A superhero fighting Nazis in WW2?
Sounds like Rocketeer to me!
Right on. :up:

bapi

11-10-2008, 05:15 AM

If he'll have a good script... it's a great choice!

Casius--J

11-10-2008, 05:26 AM

This is good news, about time this project got some movement, been soooo long!

I wasnt so sure about this guy when I first read about it, but since checking out what else he has directed I now have become more confident in him. I have a feeling he is going to be how Jon Favreau is with the Iron Man franchise. Very good stuff!

Antonello Blueberry

11-10-2008, 05:27 AM

Crap.

This movie is supposed to be a character-driven period action drama, not a Special Effects extravaganza.
I suppose you've never seen October Sky.

Brian Braddock

11-10-2008, 05:41 AM

Nice choice; JP3 was so-so but Jumanji was fun, and the Wolfman is shaping up very nicely, and of course, there's the excellent (and criminally largely forgotten and underrated) the Rocketeer.

Tonally, The Rocketeer always felt like it was Captain America's long lost celluloid cousin or something (even if it is a tad more innocent and niaive) - I wouldnt be suprised if it was solely that movie which got Johnson on Marvels map as a candidate.

As Aintitcool have said, Johnson may not be the splashiest choice, but there's no one more qualified to direct CAPTAIN AMERICA than the man who gave us THE ROCKETEER:-

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It would be great if he were to bring in James Bissell as production designer on this one; That guy got the look and feel of the period perfect in the Rocketeer.

Johnson on Captain America?

It just seems to fit.

R_Hythlodeus

11-10-2008, 05:59 AM

Who at Marvel is making these totally out of left field choices for directors?

whoever it is - he or she is a genius!

Spider-Mania2

11-10-2008, 06:08 AM

whoever it is - he or she is a genius!
Agreed:up:

Brian Braddock

11-10-2008, 06:17 AM

To say they are a genius probably is a bit much; but it's definately someone who can recognise a persons strengths and identify how they could be an asset.

In this case, JJ had previously directed a 1930's-serial inspired movie about an American everyman who puts on a costume and fights Nazi's; when you think about it - it's pretty much a no brainer that Johnson name came up for a Cap movie.

'Square pegs in square holes' and all of that................

ultimatefan

11-10-2008, 06:27 AM

Rocketeer is definitely a strong credit in JJ´s name, and I gotta say The Wolfman looks really good... But he also directed T3 and JP3, so I can´t say I give this full endorsement.

CaptainStacy

11-10-2008, 06:30 AM

Crap.

This movie is supposed to be a character-driven period action drama, not a Special Effects extravaganza.

I think it needs to be a bit of BOTH to compete in the crowded Summer movie box office.

And i think Johnston has the ability and expierience to deliver. :up:

Brian Braddock

11-10-2008, 06:34 AM

As do I - I'm jazzed by this news to be honest.

darthlaney

11-10-2008, 06:50 AM

Joe Johnson is a great choice - I get a far better feeling from him then I did Fav when he was announced. This guy has directed solid films in the past - when you look at them all you could not say they were badly directed - sure some scripts and story lines may have been weak, but I wouldn't hold this against him - the studios get what they want.

His experience working on other iconic films and with Lucas and Speilberg will also help in blending effects and live action - you couldn't learn from two better directors for this genre.

My feeling is he will learn more towards Speilberg's preference for practical effects over Lucas' cgi everthing.

Nirvana

11-10-2008, 07:04 AM

Joe Johnston doesn't scream huge success to me, but I like it. He definitely seems like he'd be able to pull it off. I like this choice so far. :up:

Now they need to hurry and get started on Thor.

batman44

11-10-2008, 07:43 AM

A solid choice:up:

R_Hythlodeus

11-10-2008, 07:46 AM

now they need to hurry and get started on thor.
qft

Congo Jack

11-10-2008, 07:53 AM

A solid choice:up:
This seems to be the general consensus - I haven't seen enough of the guy's movies to comment. From what people have said about him, I think the movie is going to need a very good script - a solid director can't save a poor script. I endorse the Ed Brubaker writing First Avenger: Captain America suggestion.

I am Batman

11-10-2008, 08:08 AM

I'm not sure how I feel about this, my initial reaction is "oh s**t". He doesn't have a huge resume under his belt, but then again neither did Chris Nolan. And of all the films Johnston has made I'd say only half of it is really noteworthy, the rest is meh. For now I"ll reserve judgment. Nolan and Batman Begins made me throw up a little in my mouth every time I thought about it but that turned out magnificently. Johnston and Captain America have the same chance as long as they get a script that is of similar level and quality of Batman Begins or The Dark Knight and not Iron Man. Oh and action sequences like Casino Royale.

CaptainStacy

11-10-2008, 08:11 AM

This seems to be the general consensus - I haven't seen enough of the guy's movies to comment. From what people have said about him, I think the movie is going to need a very good script - a solid director can't save a poor script. I endorse the Ed Brubaker writing First Avenger: Captain America suggestion.

Agreed. Johnston directing a Brubaker Cap script = Gold. :word:

Metamorpho1977

11-10-2008, 08:37 AM

I can go with this. Not the best director ever, but not a horrible choice.

Marvel so far is having four straight wins with their choice on directors.
DC on the other hand :csad:

Don't blame DC. DC is the victim of anal rape at the hands of Warner Brothers.

FaT_tONle

11-10-2008, 08:51 AM

It's not a terrible choice... but this is the best guy you get for Captain America??? Not that I was expecting Spielberg... could be worse...

Evil Twin

11-10-2008, 08:57 AM

Joe Johnston is capable and competent, if somewhat uninspired. You really shouldn't expect anything approaching "gritty" from him. Or something that pushes the boundaries of story, structure, characterization, etc. Nothing wrong with a fun, exciting, serial flavored Captain America movie, which is the most likely result from Johnston.

That said, I don't know if you can expect anything more than that from him. It's kind of the opposite of Greg Berlanti to me. Johnston has been in the business for almost 30 years, and the possibility of him being a hidden talent capable of a great movie is remote at this point, although the possibility of a competent movie is pretty high. Depending on the script, of course.

That said, this is the first time that I've believed that Marvel actually has a hope of meeting their schedule based on evidence. They still need to put a script and cast together, but now there's some concrete direction to the project. Not, we want to make a film in 2011, but we don't have a script or anything else right now.

ultimatefan

11-10-2008, 08:58 AM

That´s right, he´s a capable director, but not one that has that kind of unique vision that a Nolan or a Raimi - SM3 may have had script problems, but it was well-directed - Pete Jackson brings.

Brian Braddock

11-10-2008, 09:00 AM

Evil Twin - We'll know when 'the Wolfman' comes out if Johnson has that extra 'grittiness' in his locker; many people were suprised by his appointment as director on that project given his previous work.

FaT_tONle

11-10-2008, 09:05 AM

They are not going gritty with Captain America... don't expect any blood or anything... even though it's a WWII film. It will probably be a light PG-13 IMO. Indiana Jonesish...

Brian2887

11-10-2008, 09:11 AM

I don't mean to toot my own horn, but I've been pushing for Johnston to direct a super hero movie since before Singer was announced on Superman Returns. I even suggested him for Captain America a few months back. The guy can handle great character drama (October Sky) and great action (Jurassic Park III). He is definitely the right man to bring Captain America to the big screen.

Brian Braddock

11-10-2008, 09:14 AM

Yeah FT, it'll be light - I mean, it's no coincidence that JJ helmed the Rocketeer and JP3; he's Speilberg's protege after all. I dont think he'd make Cap gritty either.

I was really answering Evil Twins comment about not expecting anything gritty from him. It almost read like like an assumption had been made that he cant do 'gritty'; like he doesnt have that in his locker.

We'll know if he can do gritty (or edgy if you like) when 'The Wolfman' comes out.

WeaponXProject

11-10-2008, 09:16 AM

It's not Brett Rattner but it's also not great. This director has as many misses as he does good or okay movies and I think Marvel should have gotten someone who makes suspense thriller's and period pieces. I liked October Sky and Wolfman is getting people excited but he butchered two of my favorite series in Terminator and JP so I am not too happy with this.

I would have shot for Ed Zwick if I were Marvel but he is busy and is a Oscar caliber director so he probably wouldn't have done this.

I will give him a chance maybe Marvel knows something we don't about him just like they did with Jon Favreau.

I am expecting to be okay. I had higher hopes. Now it is going to be harder for Marvel to get a good actor for Cap without a big name director who is known for his skill. Hopefully Marvel can still coax one into it.

Maybe since its not him directing a sequel that he can be creative enough with the help of Marvel to start this series off right bc the ones he has picked up to make a sequel for a garbage.

I am Batman

11-10-2008, 09:16 AM

It's not a terrible choice... but this is the best guy you get for Captain America??? Not that I was expecting Spielberg... could be worse...

Joe Johnston is capable and competent, if somewhat uninspired. You really shouldn't expect anything approaching "gritty" from him. Or something that pushes the boundaries of story, structure, characterization, etc. Nothing wrong with a fun, exciting, serial flavored Captain America movie, which is the most likely result from Johnston.

That said, I don't know if you can expect anything more than that from him. It's kind of the opposite of Greg Berlanti to me. Johnston has been in the business for almost 30 years, and the possibility of him being a hidden talent capable of a great movie is remote at this point, although the possibility of a competent movie is pretty high. Depending on the script, of course.

Nicely put, this is exactly how I feel.

Carlo Comicus

11-10-2008, 09:21 AM

I don't know. The best Johnston movie is Rocketeer, but Jumanji? Horrible. I hope the David Self script is the same of two years ago.

Gatchamanjp

11-10-2008, 09:27 AM

Joe Johnston to direct...Captain America? That is great. The Rocketeer is one of the best Superhero films not affiliated with Marvel, DC, or an independant hero like...Hellboy. The opening song should be the title song of the Captain America theme from The Marvel Superheroes. You know...When Captain America throws his mighty shield.

JerseyJoker

11-10-2008, 09:30 AM

Definitely not the choice I expected, but maybe we should have seen something like this coming.

Marvel is down a new path, choosing lesser known directors and giving them a big break. Jon Favreau, Louis Leterrier, Joe Johnston, Kenneth Branagh... who's next?

This has been a long standing Marvel pattern though.

Before landing Spidey, Sam Riami was just that guy that did those indy horror movies.

Brian Braddock

11-10-2008, 09:32 AM

That's a good point;

If I recall correctly, the general reaction when Raimi got Spidey was 'Huh?'

FlawlessVictory

11-10-2008, 09:33 AM

Rocketeer is definitely a strong credit in JJ´s name, and I gotta say The Wolfman looks really good... But he also directed T3 and JP3, so I can´t say I give this full endorsement.

Jonathan Mostow directed T3.

Antonello Blueberry

11-10-2008, 09:38 AM

This has been a long standing Marvel pattern though.

Before landing Spidey, Sam Riami was just that guy that did those indy horror movies.
Sure, for the people who don't watch more than 3 movies a year.

Brian Braddock

11-10-2008, 09:42 AM

He wasnt exactly the 1st name on everyones list though, AB.

The decision was a bit left-of-field at the time.

Congo Jack

11-10-2008, 09:42 AM

The opening song should be the title song of the Captain America theme from The Marvel Superheroes. You know...When Captain America throws his mighty shield.
That could work in-story as a piece of American propaganda music. I loved that song when I was a kid.

Brian Braddock

11-10-2008, 09:44 AM

^^^Lol - yeah.

Y'now, given the great newsreel that Johnson had in the Rocketeer - I wouldnt be suprised if he does that.

Metamorpho1977

11-10-2008, 09:53 AM

I think Johnston will be a good director for this.

Antonello Blueberry

11-10-2008, 09:55 AM

He wasnt exactly the 1st name on everyones list though, AB.

The decision was a bit left-of-field at the time.
He tried to get the directing gig for Batman back in 1988, then tried to do his own superhero movie with Darkman. So not completely alien to the genre.

Brian Braddock

11-10-2008, 10:05 AM

Yeah, not alien to the genre - but not everyones immediate candidate either.

Same as Johnson - familiar to the genre; but not alot of people wouldve thought he was a candidate before his appointment was announced.

That-Guy

11-10-2008, 10:08 AM

Well, I loved The Rocketeer and Honey, I Shrunk the Kids back in the day, and I've heard October Sky is really good, though I still have yet to see it. Hidalgo was okay, even though a bit ridiculous.

The rest of his directing resume is absolute sh**, so this film could really go either way.

goh78

11-10-2008, 10:10 AM

Not one, but two posts saying he shouldn't direct this movie because he screwed up Terminator 3. Wow.

Brian Braddock

11-10-2008, 10:15 AM

It is quite a glaring error to make. :O

WeaponXProject

11-10-2008, 10:28 AM

Not one, but two posts saying he shouldn't direct this movie because he screwed up Terminator 3. Wow.

Oops...my bad.

He has only directed like 6 or 7 movies, three of which I do not like. His resume is not too good but he is a visual effects stud. Though in Cap, I don't really want much visuals outside of explosions, gun fire and throwing his shield.

I'm still not forgiving him for JP3.:csad: And I never will...:csad:

This could have been worse but i think fans expected more. I did.

I imagine this being super family friendly and campy now. Which I am kinda disappointed about. I can see what some are saying that they wanted a grittier film, I don't think he can do that.

That-Guy

11-10-2008, 10:42 AM

Yeah, Jurassic Park III was a crime against humanity. I didn't think things could actually get worse after The Lost World, but Joe Johnston proved me wrong.

CaptainStacy

11-10-2008, 10:46 AM

That could work in-story as a piece of American propaganda music. I loved that song when I was a kid.

I'd love to see that! :up:

Congo Jack

11-10-2008, 10:51 AM

I trust Marvel Studios to not make this too light - it's set in World War II, Captain America NEEDS to kill Nazis. He needs to be be an effective soldier.

I am Batman

11-10-2008, 11:16 AM

This could have been worse but i think fans expected more. I did.

You and me both.

I imagine this being super family friendly and campy now. Which I am kinda disappointed about. I can see what some are saying that they wanted a grittier film, I don't think he can do that.

Don't anticipate it be super family friendly and campy, but also don't expect it to be the epic movie it should have been.

That-Guy

11-10-2008, 12:08 PM

My problem with this is that it almost feels like Marvel is just throwing these properties to any idiot who is willing to take the helm for the right price. Granted, Jon Favreau and Louis Leterrier both did well with Iron Man in and The Incredible Hulk, but when their names were announced, I'll admit, I was skeptical because Favreau was primarily a family-comedy director and Leterrier raped audiences with the abyssmal Transporter 2.

However, they both did a bang up job with their films, IMO. But then we mustn't forget Brett Ratner's X3, Tim Story's F4 films and David Goyer's Blade:Trinity.

And now we have this guy. He's made a few good movies but he's also made some Grade A turds, so I don't know what to make of this news. But Captain America, while admittedly not my favorite superhero, is iconic and deserves a worthy director... or else we're going to end up with something similar to that awful DTV Cap movie from the early 90's. I don't mind Marvel gambling on questionable directors with lesser-known properties like The Punisher (a film of that sort has a limited audience anyway, as kids should not be taken to see a guy blowing people heads off) but something like Cap should appeal to everyone and should be handled by someone who knows how to do that. I'm not sure that this guy is up to the task.

bunk

11-10-2008, 12:12 PM

I think this is an important bit to remember.

Johnston first met with Marvel two years ago. When the two parties clicked, general talks turned into Captain America-specific meetings, with much of the project's current direction resulting from those early conversations.

Marvel has been talking to this guy for 2 years, they didn't just toss this project to the first warm body that came around. They are clearly all on the same page.

GNR

11-10-2008, 12:13 PM

Chewy

11-10-2008, 12:15 PM

But then we mustn't forget Brett Ratner's X3, Tim Story's F4 films and David Goyer's Blade:Trinity.

Those were Fox and New Line's decisions. Marvel's made only four director selections to date - Favreau, Leterrier, Branagh, and now this guy.

And now we have this guy. He's made a few good movies but he's also made some Grade A turds, so I don't know what to make of this news. But Captain America, while admittedly not my favorite superhero, is iconic and deserves a worthy director... or else we're going to end up with something similar to that awful DTV Cap movie from the early 90's. I don't mind Marvel gambling on questionable directors with lesser-known properties like The Punisher (a film of that sort has a limited audience anyway, as kids should not be taken to see a guy blowing people heads off) but something like Cap should appeal to everyone and should be handled by someone who knows how to do that. I'm not sure that this guy is up to the task.

This obviously isn't a decision Marvel made flippantly. They've been talking to the guy about it for years and have done a lot of pre-pro work - Favreau has said he's seen it and was impressed.

Metamorpho1977

11-10-2008, 12:21 PM

What about Riddley Scott directing?

WeaponXProject

11-10-2008, 12:27 PM

I think this is an important bit to remember.

Marvel has been talking to this guy for 2 years, they didn't just toss this project to the first warm body that came around. They are clearly all on the same page.

That makes me a little more confident with this guy. Although what he has shown them or talked about does not take away the heartbreak cry-fest that was JP3. I like to hear someone that has been interested for years. That's a good sign that the director is a fan.

GNR

11-10-2008, 12:29 PM

JP3 had great action scenes.Sure the script and premise was terrible but there's not much one can do with people stuck on an island running away from dinos.

I am Batman

11-10-2008, 12:30 PM

you know what,this is the same thing that happened when Jon was announced as director of Iron Man

people across the web were yelling out "the guy who directed Elf and Zathura?OMG THIS IS GONNA SUCK SO HARD!MARVEL IS STOOOPID,THEY ARE DONE!"

I think this is a solid choice,Favreau said he was pleased with alot of the art direction and look of the film at an Iron Man premiere in the summer in an interview with IESB.THR is reporting that alot of the current direction has to do with JJ's direction and ideas so that's good to hear.

Yeah I remember that. But their concerns were valid. Favreau had never really done anything like Iron Man before. He made three movies, two of which were kid/family movies so questioning Marvel's decision was only natural. And I guess it did pay off. Although I believe Iron Man was just good and could have been a lot better, most people loved it. I believe the same thing might be going on here with Captain America. Johnston may make a good Cap movie that people may love but it could probably be better.

bunk

11-10-2008, 12:31 PM

That makes me a little more confident with this guy. Although what he has shown them or talked about does not take away the heartbreak cry-fest that was JP3. I like to hear someone that has been interested for years. That's a good sign that the director is a fan.

I have all but purged JP3 from my mind. Seriously though, Tea Leoni's character in that movie makes me violently angry.

cryptic name

11-10-2008, 12:40 PM

i think this is great news. looking at The Rocketeer should show anyone that Johnston is a good choice a period Cap flick, plus he handles effects really well so we should get some great war scenes and some excellent shield flingin action. hopefull he gets a great script to work with.

JackBauer

11-10-2008, 12:54 PM

Definitely a solid choice. Going from his filmography, I can see Marvel going for a lighthearted, adventurous, "romanticized" tone for the movie, and I for one have no problem with that.

Yeah, the guy commited JP3, but that movie's problem was mainly the script, and hey, not everyone can have a spotless resumé.

Compi716

11-10-2008, 12:58 PM

I'm really not surer how I feel about this. I'll admit that some of his stuff is good, and he's great when it comes to designs, but I HATE Jurassic Park III with such a passion, and I don't want to see something like that happen again.

More importantly than the director, we need to know who the writers are and how the screenplay is. Like multiple posters have stated above, both Favreau and Letterier were met with some hostility at first but ended up turning in fine products. I hope Johnston can do the same.

ttotheusher

11-10-2008, 01:08 PM

Remember guys, this guy is a Spielberg protege. If we cant get Spielberg (my perfect choice) then we might as well have someone who's been mentored by him.

David33

11-10-2008, 01:14 PM

Johnston is a great choice!!!:woot:.He is a very good director and dont forget that Marvel is producing this movie,having a tight control on the artistic choices.
So Joe Johnston+Marvel watching= Awesome Captain America movie.
This is gonna be better than you guys think.:up:.I am vey happy with this choice.

David33

11-10-2008, 01:20 PM

Remember guys, this guy is a Spielberg protege. If we cant get Spielberg (my perfect choice) then we might as well have someone who's been mentored by him.

Agree :up:.

Congo Jack

11-10-2008, 01:28 PM

Remember guys, this guy is a Spielberg protege. If we cant get Spielberg (my perfect choice) then we might as well have someone who's been mentored by him.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. If you can't get Steven Spielberg, you get his non-union Mexican equivalent Señor Spielbergo.

Brian Braddock

11-10-2008, 01:32 PM

Marvel couldnt get him - that whole experience with Mr.Burns soured his relationship with American cinema.

;)

The Dude

11-10-2008, 01:33 PM

I like the choice. Was he my first choice, definitely not, but the guy has made some decent movies.

Honey I shrunk the kids- not all great, but it's fun and endearing
October Sky- Awesome movie
Hidalgo- Never seen
Jurassic Park III- I hated this movie, but mainly because the script and premise where horrible. The action scenes where good IMO so i put less blame on Johnston
Jumanji- One of my favorites when i was younger.
Upcoming Wolfman film- I'm very excited for this.

I like the choice, but of course that doesn't mean much until we start seeing some footage and the finished film, then we can see if he was the right guy.

Brian Braddock

11-10-2008, 01:36 PM

Dude, you omitted the Rocketeer from that list; probably the most important film of JJ's resume in connection with Cap.

[A]

11-10-2008, 01:39 PM

Wrong, wrong, wrong. If you can't get Steven Spielberg, you get his non-union Mexican equivalent Señor Spielbergo.

Marvel couldnt get him - that whole experience with Mr.Burns soured his relationship with American cinema.

;)

:lmao:

Sarg92

11-10-2008, 01:54 PM

Good news.

I hope he can make it into an epic film cos Leterrier and Favreau have both seen some of the work that has been put into Captain America so far and both were very impressed. Leterrier even asked Marvel if he could direct it just after TIH but Marvel said no cos I think they were talking to some other director about it (Johnston).

WeaponXProject

11-10-2008, 02:10 PM

JP3 had great action scenes.Sure the script and premise was terrible but there's not much one can do with people stuck on an island running away from dinos.

Did you see the first one? There is alot more you can do than have a boy get T-Rex piss to ward off other dinosaurs. Not to mention the terrible scenes where the Raptors let them go if they put the eggs back. And the quick ending at the beach when you think there is going to be a big climax. Not to mention the lack of focus on the issue of man playing god and genetic engineering.
Remember guys, this guy is a Spielberg protege. If we cant get Spielberg (my perfect choice) then we might as well have someone who's been mentored by him.

Why Spielberg? Just bc of Saving Private Ryan...he has put out some crap since then. A.I., Indy 4, Minority Report, The Terminal, War of the Worlds. I did like Munich though. Anything he makes is a cash cow which would be good for Marvel but the movies he has done recently have been disappointing to fans. I think Spielberg kinda sucks now and this idea for Tin Tin is a bad idea too.

The Question

11-10-2008, 02:21 PM

The Rocketeer and October Sky were both very good movies, and they both reflect ideas that should be in a Captain America film, albeit on a larger scale. I'm hopeful.

Brian Braddock

11-10-2008, 02:28 PM

Why Spielberg? Just bc of Saving Private Ryan...he has put out some crap since then. A.I., Indy 4, Minority Report, The Terminal, War of the Worlds. I did like Munich though. Anything he makes is a cash cow which would be good for Marvel but the movies he has done recently have been disappointing to fans. I think Spielberg kinda sucks now and this idea for Tin Tin is a bad idea too.

Hmmm, I guess your definition of crap must differ from mine;

To me, a crap movie is one that is just plain bad; you know, something absolutely awful with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Can you, hand on heart, say that those films are that?

I mean, you might have issues with some of them and maybe some of them aren't your cup of tea; but do you really consider them to be bad movies?

Troma movies are bad; Ewe Bol films are just plain crap.

Speilberg films, my friend, are neither.

bunk

11-10-2008, 02:29 PM

Ha ha, I enjoyed all of those Spielberg movies aside from A.I.. I guess I'm just stupid or something.

OwlBoy

11-10-2008, 02:34 PM

Goddamit, I wish this guy was doing Green Lantern

DarkSovereignty

11-10-2008, 02:47 PM

Has the guy ever made a period piece..?

yes, the rocketeer took place during WWII.

cerealkiller182

11-10-2008, 02:47 PM

Johnston works. Not my first choice but he works.

Rich Santoro

11-10-2008, 02:47 PM

This is a great choice... The guy has handled a variety of films, and obviously has a particular grasp on visuals, action and FX. Most of the criticisms that I am seeing on thise thread, I think could be largely contributed to writing... not so much, directing.

So I am looking forward to this... Plus, it helped me remember a film that I enjoyed as a kid, that I need to bring home to my kids.

Spider-ManHero12

11-10-2008, 02:48 PM

Not a bad choice! He has directed pretty good films. :up:

WeaponXProject

11-10-2008, 03:01 PM

Hmmm, I guess your definition of crap must differ from mine;

To me, a crap movie is one that is just plain bad; you know, something absolutely awful with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Can you, hand on heart, say that those films are that?

I mean, you might have issues with some of them and maybe some of them aren't your cup of tea; but do you really consider them to be bad movies?

Troma movies are bad; Ewe Bol films are just plain crap.

Speilberg films, my friend, are neither.

Further into my post I explain it a little more than that. If you make big budget movies that are disappointing then I consider them bad. To me nothing is worse than a high expectation movie that isn't that good. Uwe Boll movies I don't even degrade myself to see and I don't know why you would either. Yes I can say that Minority Report was a disappointment. Indy 4 was terribly disappointing. A.I. was disappointing. War of the Worlds was boring but visually great. Just bc they are expensive and have good visuals does not justify them as good. They may be well made but they are not particularly a movie I would ever watch again. Did those movies make you go want to buy them or watch them again. Probably not as much as his older films.

Look, everybody makes some misses. I like alot of his movies. Spielberg made a few in a row and I am not gonna sit here and put him into consideration for a film when he has not put out some passion in his work like he used to. He is talented but has dried out as of recently and I don't want to see him "Indy 4" a beloved character of mine. It seems to me that Spielberg becomes the choice for every big movie and in this case, I don't think he should get a chance to bc he hasn't put in his heart and soul lately.

Now as for Johnston, I haven't seen a serious toned movie besides October Sky, which is a feel good movie, so I am not sure he can bring Cap to the theatres the way we want. I will give him a chance but I would rather have another director. It is, however, good to see a director that has some love for the character.

Hush

11-10-2008, 03:09 PM

Excited for this choice, the man signed off on YODA for christsake he is the man for the job.

Saint

11-10-2008, 03:13 PM

If they actually call this thing "The First Avenger: Captain America," I will swear an oath of vengeance.

[A]

11-10-2008, 03:15 PM

yeah, they should make The First Avenger more like a subtitle.. or a tagline..

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 03:35 PM

I'm certain that the Captain America movie will be mediocre. It won't be awful, but it won't be much worth remembering, either.

WeaponXProject

11-10-2008, 03:36 PM

I'm certain that the Captain America movie will be mediocre. It won't be awful, but it won't be much worth remembering, either.

Agreed. I am losing my faith in it by the minute.

Franklin Richards

11-10-2008, 03:37 PM

Nostradamus, ladies and gentlemen. Nostradamus.

:thing: :doom: :thing:

CaptainStacy

11-10-2008, 04:10 PM

Did you see the first one? There is alot more you can do than have a boy get T-Rex piss to ward off other dinosaurs. Not to mention the terrible scenes where the Raptors let them go if they put the eggs back. And the quick ending at the beach when you think there is going to be a big climax. Not to mention the lack of focus on the issue of man playing god and genetic engineering.

Ok, fine. But that was all part of the script. It has nothing to do with Johnston's directing skills.

Casius--J

11-10-2008, 04:12 PM

Nostradamus, ladies and gentlemen. Nostradamus.

:thing: :doom: :thing:

HaHa nice one!

WeaponXProject

11-10-2008, 04:24 PM

Ok, fine. But that was all part of the script. It has nothing to do with Johnston's directing skills.

I'll drop it but didn't he read the script first. And the action scene that was suppossed to be their big one with the Spinosaurus attacking the plane in the tree bounces around and you can't really see what's happening.

I will give him a chance but what he could have done as a director is make that film better. He didn't.

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 04:25 PM

I'll drop it but didn't he read the script first. And the action scene that was suppossed to be their big one with the Spinosaurus attacking the plane in the tree bounces around and you can't really see what's happening.
That's a terrible argument.

Chewy

11-10-2008, 04:25 PM

If they actually call this thing "The First Avenger: Captain America," I will swear an oath of vengeance.
It seems clear they are using that title so they can sell it overseas. I think "Captain America: The First Avenger" would be a much better title, though/

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 04:29 PM

Or they could just ****ing call it Captain America

cryptic name

11-10-2008, 04:31 PM

Or they could just ****ing call it Captain America

common sense!

Congo Jack

11-10-2008, 04:37 PM

Or they could just ****ing call it Captain America
common sense!

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii130/Logan-Wolverine/deadpool.jpg

Yes, hopefully it will prevail.

WeaponXProject

11-10-2008, 04:40 PM

That's a terrible argument.

And your basis is? With your four word statement...:huh::cmad:

Why defend him for that movie? It's pointless and everyone knows he did a terrible job. The acting was terrible. Tea Leoni and William H. Macy were awful. That kid was terrible in it.

So you liked JP3? You liked his direction in it? You liked how he dealt with the characters?

Doomed Hero Rising

11-10-2008, 04:41 PM

This is awesome! This guy made some WICKED films before! I trust him.

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 04:47 PM

And your basis is? With your four word statement...:huh::cmad:

Why defend him for that movie? It's pointless and everyone knows he did a terrible job. The acting was terrible. Tea Leoni and William H. Macy were awful. That kid was terrible in it.

So you liked JP3? You liked his direction in it? You liked how he dealt with the characters?
My statement implied nothing about how I felt about JP3. It said simply that the reason you stated for the movie being bad (or for Johnston being a poor director, I can't remember) was unfounded. Not being able to see what's going on is often a very well-used and effective technique. Steven Spielberg used this technique in Jaws and created one of the most memorable and iconic films ever.

WeaponXProject

11-10-2008, 04:54 PM

My statement implied nothing about how I felt about JP3. It said simply that the reason you stated for the movie being bad (or for Johnston being a poor director, I can't remember) was unfounded. Not being able to see what's going on is often a very well-used and effective technique. Steven Spielberg used this technique in Jaws and created one of the most memorable and iconic films ever.

Spielberg also did some of the best scenes in vehicles in the first two JP's but in Johnston's the camera shakes. In Jaws you knew what was happening. In the Johnston scene you can't even tell. You compared that terrible scene to one of the best scenes. Wow! Watch it again and get back to me. Hell watch the whole thing and try and tell me Johnston did an okay job. I guess my point of view is wrong bc he is Cap's director now.:whatever: He made a bad movie. Period. And it's really bad.

So bc you have avoided it...how did you feel about this film?

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 04:56 PM

It sucks.

WeaponXProject

11-10-2008, 04:57 PM

It sucks.

Okay, I feel a little better. (big sigh)

cerealkiller182

11-10-2008, 05:17 PM

JP3 might have been shot bad, but Hidalgo was shot damn well if nothing else.

terry78

11-10-2008, 05:20 PM

Watch any movie he's directed..Jurassic Park 3, Hidalgo, Rocketeer, Jumanji, and tell me you didn't have fun at least once at each of those. He's Spielbergo's protege, so I have faith in the man.

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 05:20 PM

Hidalgo was still pretty forgettable.

Chris B

11-10-2008, 05:21 PM

Jumanji is an old favorite of mine and October Sky was a good film. I have faith that Johnson can pull this off.

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 05:21 PM

Cause nothing screams Captain America like October Sky.

ttotheusher

11-10-2008, 05:23 PM

Hypestyle

11-10-2008, 05:25 PM

I wanted Spielberg.. growl.. ah well..

hopefully there will be a real script in place, unlike jurassic park 3.. and I don't want a 90 minute film.. it must be 2.5 hours..

Get christopher priest or ed brubaker to work on the script..

Retroman

11-10-2008, 05:26 PM

Nice choice.He's worked on a good varied list of films.:up:

I am interested in seeing how they bring Captain America to life.I think at a time where a great number of people in the US are starting to feel hopefull again after the election of Obama, this patriotic movie might be coming at just the right time.

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 05:27 PM

cerealkiller182

11-10-2008, 05:29 PM

Hidalgo was still pretty forgettable.

The story wasnt great but the visual direction was still fantastic.

I've always kinda thought that a Captain America film should be something like Indiana Jones meets Saving Private Ryan. A gritty WW2 setting, but with a slight 30's serial-ness about it.

I agree. Ive always seen Cap with Indy's thunder punch.

Chris B

11-10-2008, 05:30 PM

Cause nothing screams Captain America like October Sky.

Of course not. But it was still a good movie, IMO. And something that makes me believe he has a decent amount of talent.

Congo Jack

11-10-2008, 05:32 PM

Get christopher priest or ed brubaker to work on the script..
Did Priest write comic book Cap?

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 05:34 PM

YJ1

11-10-2008, 05:38 PM

This is awesome! This guy made some WICKED films before! I trust him.

This guy has a great pedigree. I also think he'll do a great job.

I hope the writers are given a copy of the "Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty" origin mini-series from years ago. THAT should be the working script...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Z6TZBPQEL._SS500_.jpg

ttotheusher

11-10-2008, 05:40 PM

I don't want to see Captain America as a popcorn action flick. Unfortunately I think that's what it's going to be. I'd much rather a darker and more painful look at changing times, standards of patriotism and the morality of national pride.

I think that they need to establish the character first. Cap's gonna be in the Avengers too, and because thats gonna be set in the modern day, theres ample room to explore those issues.

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 05:42 PM

I have little faith that a project like The Avengers can be of quality based on what we have leading up to it so far.

REDophile

11-10-2008, 05:47 PM

Marvel must like children's writer Chris Van Allsburg :woot:. First Favreau from Zathura and now Johnston who did Jumanji.

BlackLantern

11-10-2008, 05:48 PM

Why do most drawings of Captain America have him with a serious bulge?? it's disturbing

scifiwolf

11-10-2008, 05:50 PM

Hunter Rider literally took the words out of my mouth - this guy is a solid choice. He's had enough experience in every possible category that would apply to this movie, and he's shown strength in all those areas. Saint is right in that JPIII is probably his weakest movie, but I think much of that falls on the script and the studio. I think his direction in the movie is strong and makes the movie as enjoyable as it manages to be.

terry78

11-10-2008, 05:55 PM

Why do most drawings of Captain America have him with a serious bulge?? it's disturbing

Cause he's the big American hero. And as Americans, we all have extremely large bulges.

cryptic name

11-10-2008, 06:19 PM

Cause he's the big American hero. And as Americans, we all have extremely large bulges.

it's science

LastSunrise1981

11-10-2008, 06:26 PM

As long as JJ gets the visual direction right in terms of showing Cap in a World War II setting, Cap's look, and the Red Skull? I'll be a happy fan then.

I've always had in my head seeing Captain America running at full speed through the battlefield as if his soldiers are standing still while trying to take down the Red Skull at his lair. Here's hoping it has a visual style similar to Schindler's List or Children of Men. I've always felt Captain America's world was very similar in visual terms to those films.

terry78

11-10-2008, 06:29 PM

For this type of thing, you need Bryan Singer's sensabilities from X1 coupled with Michael Bay's action sequences from....everything he's done. I think Johnston can do it.

BlackLantern

11-10-2008, 06:30 PM

a quick aside about Bay...they should do a sequel for 'Hot Fuzz' and get Bay to direct just the action sequences....

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 06:33 PM

The Chibi Kiriyama

11-10-2008, 06:37 PM

The visual presentation is all you want out of a movie?

How happy for you.

Yeah...I'm equally confused on this one. :huh:

Are you saying, LastSunrise1981, that if the portrayal of movie Captain America was inspired by the Ultimates, you'd be happy so long as they get the look right?

BlackLantern

11-10-2008, 06:42 PM

Yeah...I'm equally confused on this one. :huh:

Are you saying, LastSunrise1981, that if the portrayal of movie Captain America was inspired by the Ultimates, you'd be happy so long as they get the look right?

I'd be fine if they took elements from both the Utlimates and regular Marvel Universe....the WW2 outfit he had in Ultimates was pretty sweet looking...

terry78

11-10-2008, 06:46 PM

I suspect he'll be a little cynical at some point, as idealistic as he is.

http://blog.7415comics.com/images/illustrations/captain_america_176_17.jpg

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 06:51 PM

I suspect he'll be a little cynical at some point, as idealistic as he is.

http://blog.7415comics.com/images/illustrations/captain_america_176_17.jpg
This is the kind of stuff I want.

The Chibi Kiriyama

11-10-2008, 06:53 PM

I'd say one of the best portrayals of Steve is in that post-9/11 arc, where he revealed his identity: still fighting for his ideals, but with less naivete about what war and government are really about.

Chewy

11-10-2008, 06:55 PM

I'm sure it'll never happen, but I would like to see Bucky die in this movie.

BlackLantern

11-10-2008, 06:57 PM

I'd be happy with no Bucky period....

The Chibi Kiriyama

11-10-2008, 06:59 PM

If Bucky's in it and there's an explosion at the end like the comics depict, I would rather it be ambiguous what Bucky's fate was. It'd be interesting to see a sequel where Cap has to deal with the Winter Soldier.

Chewy

11-10-2008, 07:00 PM

@BlackLantern: That's what I suspect we'll get, but Bucky's death was always a defining moment in Cap's life (even though he never really died thanks to that whole Winter Soldier thing)

BlackLantern

11-10-2008, 07:00 PM

**** Bucky....

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 07:03 PM

****y

BlackLantern

11-10-2008, 07:07 PM

I understand how important Bucky is....but I think it's enough of a task to get people to get into Cap himself......having to introduce and then axe Bucky seems like clutter

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 07:10 PM

I don't think so. Only if we have to deal with 10 other characters.

LastSunrise1981

11-10-2008, 07:15 PM

Yeah...I'm equally confused on this one. :huh:

Are you saying, LastSunrise1981, that if the portrayal of movie Captain America was inspired by the Ultimates, you'd be happy so long as they get the look right?

Oh no, not at all. Believe me I want the story to be there, I want the acting to be there, and I want everything to be just right for this film. Perhaps I should've elaborated more.

Along with what I just mentioned, as long as they get the visual perspective right and don't mess it up I'll be a very happy fan. I, much like everyone else on this forum, have a specific way I visualize the world of Captain America and I've always wanted to see exactly the way it should be depicted. Have it set in a World War II setting, have Cap run at inhuman speed as if his fellow soldiers are standing still as he attempts to infiltrate Red Skull's lair.

But as I said, you can have all the visuals you want but if the story sucks then the film will suck.

BizarroAids

11-10-2008, 07:28 PM

I've got no problems with Joe Johnston directing. It's actually pretty good news. We know he can do action/adventure type movies, and we know he can do hero movies (The Roketeer). His current take on the iconic Wolfman looks really promising. So, yeah, I have full faith in him.

Come on now, if a guy like Faverau can make films like Elf, Swingers, Zanthura, and then turn around and make gold out of Iron Man. Well then I can keep my faith in Johnston.

And, he does well with period pieces. Like the Wolfman, and Roketeer, October Sky.:woot:

BlackLantern

11-10-2008, 07:40 PM

I like 'Elf'...it's not the greatest movie out there but from a Holiday standpoint it is heart-warming....Swingers is good, you just have to pay attention to whats being said...which might be an issue for some people who just want to see things explode

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 07:41 PM

Things explode in Swingers? :huh: I haven't seen it.

echostation

11-10-2008, 07:43 PM

the true measure will come from Wolfman... if he does well with that and it's accurate, scary and a masterful story told well on screen then I'll be more confident

right now I'm not so confident in this dude... Jumanji and JP III sucked balls, just cuz the man has done 1-2 good movies which were done over a decade ago doesn't mean he still has the chops... we'll see about this one

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 07:51 PM

I have to see Wolfman to know if this guy is going to be able to handle it.

The Chibi Kiriyama

11-10-2008, 07:54 PM

I think it was just a general statement. I've seen Swingers, and I don't remember anything exploding.

bubbadoom

11-10-2008, 07:56 PM

For the longest time THE ROCKETEER was one of the best comic-to-film movies, so this is okay by me.
Since Joe seems to have a knack for period films, I hope this means they are keeping THIS movie entirely in the '40's - where it belongs!

BlackLantern

11-10-2008, 08:00 PM

I think it was just a general statement. I've seen Swingers, and I don't remember anything exploding.

It was....I was making the point that Swingers is a dialouge driven film, unlike some other films which are all boom explody boom boom yay!!!

Superhero 101

11-10-2008, 08:04 PM

Why don't they have a Director for Thor yet? I mean that is supposed to come before Captain America and they don't have a Director or a Actor I think that Thor will get pushed back to 2011

Chewy

11-10-2008, 08:05 PM

Why don't they have a Director for Thor yet? I mean that is supposed to come before Captain America and they don't have a Director or a Actor I think that Thor will get pushed back to 2011
Kenneth Branagh says "Hi"

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 08:06 PM

Kenneth Branagh could kick Joe Johnston's ass.

terry78

11-10-2008, 08:07 PM

Kenneth Branagh could kick Joe Johnston's ass.

Call me a tad xenophobic, but I'd rather the director and actor that plays Cap both be from the states. That's just me, personally. :o We already outsourced most of our superheroes as it is :oldrazz: Not that they didn't do a decent job.

The Kid

11-10-2008, 08:08 PM

In Pitt I trust.

Project862006

11-10-2008, 08:10 PM

a 45 year old man playing a character that is suppose to be about 25 at the most no thank you

FaT_tONle

11-10-2008, 08:10 PM

terry78

11-10-2008, 08:11 PM

a 45 year old man playing a character in his early twenties yeah thats logical

He's like Brenden Fraser...he's immortal. Pitt still looks like he did when he did Thelma and Louise, and know that. :o

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 08:16 PM

Call me a tad xenophobic, but I'd rather the director and actor that plays Cap both be from the states. That's just me, personally. :o We already outsourced most of our superheroes as it is :oldrazz: Not that they didn't do a decent job.
I didn't say I wanted him for Cap. I just think he's a better director.

Spider-Vader

11-10-2008, 08:42 PM

I like the fact that they went to someone with lots of experience to handle this. He obviously has a proven track record of high quality work. The Rocketeer, the Raiders chase scene, Wolfman, the involvement with Star Wars...could all hint towards what kind of style we'll see with Captain America.
He had something to do with the Truck Chase in Raiders? I'm really excited now. :wow:
Don't blame DC. DC is the victim of anal rape at the hands of Warner Brothers.
You'd think with the success with a previously unknown character like Iron Man Dc would jump the gun with Green Lantern or Flash. Characters who were more well known that IM.
Joe Johnston to direct...Captain America? That is great. The Rocketeer is one of the best Superhero films not affiliated with Marvel, DC, or an independant hero like...Hellboy. The opening song should be the title song of the Captain America theme from The Marvel Superheroes. You know...When Captain America throws his mighty shield.
It might appear the IM song from that show appeared in the backround in various places of that movie.
If they actually call this thing "The First Avenger: Captain America," I will swear an oath of vengeance.
In America, it should be called "Captain America", outside the States it should be called "The First Avenger".

I've got no problems with Joe Johnston directing. It's actually pretty good news. We know he can do action/adventure type movies, and we know he can do hero movies (The Roketeer). His current take on the iconic Wolfman looks really promising. So, yeah, I have full faith in him.

Come on now, if a guy like Faverau can make films like Elf, Swingers, Zanthura, and then turn around and make gold out of Iron Man. Well then I can keep my faith in Johnston.

And, he does well with period pieces. Like the Wolfman, and Roketeer, October Sky.:woot:

I liked Elf, one of my favorite Christmas movies.

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 08:44 PM

You'd think with the success with a previously unknown character like Iron Man Dc would jump the gun with Green Lantern or Flash. Characters who were more well known that IM.
They've got a script and a director for GL.

jokerface89

11-10-2008, 08:52 PM

Johnson does not seem like a completely bad choice as alot of people have said they could of gotten someone way worse plus october sky was a good movie and I will have more confidence in him if the wolfman also turns out to be a good remake .I just hope he does not screw this up as I said before Captain america has the chance to be better then iron man.

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 08:55 PM

I'm calling it: (worst to best)
TIH<Cap<Avengers<IM2<IM<Thor

Ronny Shade

11-10-2008, 08:56 PM

maybe Avengers<Cap

Chewy

11-10-2008, 09:03 PM

I'm calling it: (worst to best)
TIH<Cap<Avengers<IM2<IM<Thor
Swap IM & IM2 and that's how I see them turning out. I just reread the first draft of Thor yesterday and with a few tweaks it's going to be ****ing epic.

The Chibi Kiriyama

11-10-2008, 09:05 PM

You think the second Iron Man movie will be better than the first? With all of this behind-the-scenes drama and the release date being what it is, I have to wonder.

Chewy

11-10-2008, 09:07 PM

Yep. The behind the scenes drama seems to be mostly holdover from the first. With Downey you know the Stark scenes are going to be equally as solid and Favs is going out of his way (ie hiring GT) to make sure the Iron Man scenes are better.

BobJM

11-10-2008, 09:25 PM

Chewy, can you PM the Thor script?

Chewy

11-10-2008, 09:26 PM

Sure, gimme a second.

The Kid

11-10-2008, 09:28 PM

Definitely better. Dark knight having raised the bar so high, it has to be. In my mind, the first movie's like x1, decent start, sparks of brilliance now and again. The second will hopefully be an x2 showing more confident and deft film making than before.

oh and Pitt Dammit!

Rage

11-10-2008, 09:28 PM

If JJ is Speilberg's protege...and Cap and Avengers will be shot at the same time or back to back... And Speilberg said he would never do another movie that plays the Nazis as comical villains...MAYBE Speilberg is going to direct the Avengers while JJ directs Cap? Maybe Speilberg was choice #1 but wouldn't do it because of the Nazis, so they got him to do Avengers and JJ (a Speilberg/Lucas underling) to do Cap

Food for thought.

P.S. Favreau didn't direct Swingers... he wrote it. Doug (Bourne Franchise) Liman directed Swingers

Rage

Nirvana

11-10-2008, 09:35 PM

The opening song should be the title song of the Captain America theme from The Marvel Superheroes. You know...When Captain America throws his mighty shield.

All those who oppose his mighty shield must yield!
If he's led to a fight and a duel is due, then the Red and White and the Blue will come through when Captain America throws his mighty shield! :oldrazz:

Chewy

11-10-2008, 09:47 PM

DACrowe

11-10-2008, 09:59 PM

Solid choice. A director who can be hit-or-miss, but generally makes good entertaining movies. And it seems Marvel is going to maintain a simple formulaic "popcorn" approach with its movies, so this guy makes sense.

Pros:

-October Sky was a great movie.
-The Rocketeer is a good movie that's tone will likely bare a striking resemblance to Captain America.
-The Wolfman remake looks extremely entertaining (if too unfaithful to the original film) by the ComicCon trailer that was leaked.

On the other hand:

-JPIII sucked. But it was likely the screenplay's fault.
-Hidalgo was only okay.

Not Chris Nolan or even Sam Raimi, but certainly a better choice than Louis Letterer.

Here's to hoping.

FaT_tONle

11-10-2008, 10:05 PM

Solid choice. A director who can be hit-or-miss, but generally makes good entertaining movies. And it seems Marvel is going to maintain a simple formulaic "popcorn" approach with its movies, so this guy makes sense.

You were hoping for something more... but again... you are just not gonna get that from Marvel... they will stick with what works for them... let's keep the young teens in the seats... let's not take ourselves too seriously... let's keep it fun, simple, and straightforward... now with Thor they ABSOLUTELY have to go out of bounds with that character... which is why I like the Branagh pick. But you know what to expect going into Captain America... you just hope the epicness stays in tact and the performances are superb...

deathshead2

11-10-2008, 10:05 PM

The Kid

11-10-2008, 10:47 PM

Pitt as Thor > Pitt as Cap

Pitt's too old for Cap - his wrinkles are starting to show.

Stop with that...

Make-up will cut 15 years off, lighting will cut another 5, CGI can do it all!

Anyway did we not get a new Indy movie this year or not? Age is but a numba!

Saint

11-10-2008, 10:51 PM

No reason Cap can't be older, anyway. That said, I don't like Pitt for Cap--or for any superhero (except maybe Thor). Something about his face...

I am Batman

11-10-2008, 11:04 PM

Solid choice. A director who can be hit-or-miss, but generally makes good entertaining movies. And it seems Marvel is going to maintain a simple formulaic "popcorn" approach with its movies, so this guy makes sense.

See that's the problem. Marvel sees this and all it's movies as just simple formulaic popcorn movies when they can be so much more.

FaT_tONle

11-10-2008, 11:06 PM

Stop with that...

Make-up will cut 15 years off, lighting will cut another 5, CGI can do it all!

Anyway did we not get a new Indy movie this year or not? Age is but a numba!

Pitt is soooo 1990's... look the man still had the looks in the Oceans series and what not... but enough is enough... he had the kids... he's getting old and fat... he's done in terms of these physical roles.

Chewy

11-10-2008, 11:10 PM

See that's the problem. Marvel sees this and all it's movies as just simple formulaic popcorn movies when they can be so much more.
Yeah, let's just ignore the fact that they hired a director known for his great adaptations of Shakespeare's works to direct Thor and instead spout generalities.

Pitt is soooo 1990's... look the man still had the looks in the Oceans series and what not... but enough is enough... he had the kids... he's getting old and fat... he's done in terms of these physical roles.

That's how I would've described Downey a couple of years ago.

cerealkiller182

11-10-2008, 11:22 PM

That's how I would've described Downey a couple of years ago.

That works for Iron Man though, it wont for Captain America.

Chewy

11-10-2008, 11:27 PM

That works for Iron Man though, it wont for Captain America.
I know - I don't like Pitt for Cap either. (I do kinda like the idea of him as Thor, though). I was just pointing out how ridiculous it is to say he can't play a physical role because he's old and has kids.

FaT_tONle

11-10-2008, 11:27 PM

That's how I would've described Downey a couple of years ago.

Yeah but it was a first time big budget film with RDJ... if Pitt takes this role he'd be doing it for a pay check. The guy does not even touch his own stunts anymore... Mr. and Mrs. Smith was the last straw for me... he can't do big time action anymore... hell you got Tom freaking Cruise doing most of his own work in M.I III. Pitt was never an action guy anyway... he doesn't care for these kinds of movies.

Doctor Jones

11-10-2008, 11:27 PM

Pitt as Thor > Pitt as Cap

Pitt's too old for Cap - his wrinkles are starting to show.

You know, if you said this in front of a group of women, they would attack and kill you.

Doctor Jones

11-10-2008, 11:29 PM

Pitt is soooo 1990's... look the man still had the looks in the Oceans series and what not... but enough is enough... he had the kids... he's getting old and fat... he's done in terms of these physical roles.

Read my above post. See 40 is not old. You must be one of those people where you think a 20 or 30 year old is old or Christian Bale is too old to play Batman. And he's becoming fat? :funny:

Chewy

11-10-2008, 11:31 PM

You know, if you said this in front of a group of women, they would attack and kill you.
Women will kill me for stating that Brad Pitt is too old to play a given role :huh:

Doctor Jones

11-10-2008, 11:33 PM

Women will kill me for stating that Brad Pitt is too old to play a given role :huh:

Yes? Walk into a salon, mall, grocery store, etc and I can gaurentee it.

tamron

11-10-2008, 11:37 PM

I like the choice. Loved The Rocketeer. Though he has been hit-or-miss since, I think the tone of Cap suits his strengths.

Chewy

11-10-2008, 11:38 PM

:whatever:

They definitely won't like it when I say George Clooney is too old to play Spider-Man and Matt Damon is too old to play Bucky, then.

Aztec

11-10-2008, 11:39 PM

See that's the problem. Marvel sees this and all it's movies as just simple formulaic popcorn movies when they can be so much more.

1) Iron Man, while being a fun summer movie, WAS so much more. It was a very good movie in its own right that even snuck in some foreign policy commentary.

2) Kenneth Branagh is directing Thor. How is that not trying to be "so much more"? He's a Shakespearen actor/director for god's sake.

I am Batman

11-10-2008, 11:40 PM

Yeah, let's just ignore the fact that they hired a director known for his great adaptations of Shakespeare's works to direct Thor and instead spout generalities.

Oh yeah I forgot about him:p Aside from Branagh Marvel's other movies just feel like summer popcorn flicks.

chiefchirpa

11-10-2008, 11:46 PM

And DC/WB has nothing to speak of after Nolan calling an extended vacation. Green Lantern with Berlanti? Wonder Woman with McG? Those are more like summer candy flicks.

I am Batman

11-10-2008, 11:49 PM

1) Iron Man, while being a fun summer movie, WAS so much more. It was a very good movie in its own right that even snuck in some foreign policy commentary.

2) Kenneth Branagh is directing Thor. How is that not trying to be "so much more"? He's a Shakespearen actor/director for god's sake.

1) I did not feel that way about Iron Man. I don't know if it was my expectations or what but I walked out of Iron Man a little disappointed. I liked it, it was fun and all, and definitely a great adaptation, but I felt that the villain was too one dimensional, Stark's motivations seemed a little weird, and this is hard to explain: the characters didn't really click.

2) Again, I forgot all about Branagh for a second, brain fart.