Young Storm

[Electrix]

So it is pretty evident from the trailer that we have a cameo from a young version of Storm.

http://i36.tinypic.com/1410avc.jpg

Lets speculate from this single screenshot what her cameo could involve!

[Pauluz]

Hostage at Sabretooth's 'camp'?

[BMM]

It’s in this scene that Storm first determines what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning…

[_BB_]

Well thats Sabretooth standing directly behind her and im guessing thats deadpool to the far left. Basing that on this screencap:

http://i36.tinypic.com/2drfnfs.jpg

Same clothes, same background.

[TNC9852002]

Electrix?? WTF? :p

But anyway, I'm very interested in what she's doing hanging around there. Heh, I'm thinking they gave her a little memory wiping treatment.

-TNC

[Rac]

Aww, man. Why they include every goddamn mutant in this? Wolverine meets the whole X-Men and don't recognize any of 'em (or their powers) in X1. Yay.

[DoctorJones]

Eh? Do Wolvie and Team X visit Africa or something?

[TNC9852002]

Aww, man. Why they include every goddamn mutant in this? Wolverine meets the whole X-Men and don't recognize any of 'em (or their powers) in X1. Yay.
Wow. You must've been asleep through half of X-Men movies.

-TNC

[Angamb]

what about seeing Storm as a young thieve... like Gambit....

possible connection?....

would be amazing... but I doubt it...

[Rac]

Wow. You must've been asleep through half of X-Men movies.

-TNC
Ha ha. I know Logan doesn't remember much, but still.

[TNC9852002]

Ha ha. I know Logan doesn't remember much, but still.
Well, it's ironic how people complain about a few things here and there, especially when it comes down to source material. They manage to put in a young Gambit and Storm in the same movie, material straight out of the comic book, but some people still seem oblivious to the idea. ;)

I think it's a nice touch and hey, we know Wolverine's had some serious amnesiac moments in the X-Men movies. Maybe Storm has them too.

-TNC

[DJSCARLET]

Well, it's ironic how people complain about a few things here and there, especially when it comes down to source material. They manage to put in a young Gambit and Storm in the same movie, material straight out of the comic book, but some people still seem oblivious to the idea. ;)

I think it's a nice touch and hey, we know Wolverine's had some serious amnesiac moments in the X-Men movies. Maybe Storm has them too.

-TNC

well there is shadow king. let's not forget him and his affect on Storm. :word:

[TNC9852002]

well there is shadow king. let's forget that him and his affect on Storm. :word:
Oh damn.

Suddenly, the idea of a Storm spinoff might not be too bad of an idea either. But, I always felt that the Shadow King storyline was a little....out of place to me.

-TNC

[storyteller]

Why would Wolverine see the resemblance between a little girl and decades later(after probably some mind wipes) and the hot Halle Berry Storm?

[The Original Bamfer]

She's so cute!

[ironwez20]

Aww, man. Why they include every goddamn mutant in this? Wolverine meets the whole X-Men and don't recognize any of 'em (or their powers) in X1. Yay.


um he has amnesia in the first xmen movie

[sniktsnakt]

Gambit and Storm and the post-Australia "child-ifying" of Storm from the comic books!

Cool. So . . . could Storm be a protege of Gambit or something? Even if she's not in Africa . . . .

Hm . . . .

[The Original Bamfer]

Gambit and Storm and the post-Australia "child-ifying" of Storm from the comic books!

Cool. So . . . could Storm be a protege of Gambit or something? Even if she's not in Africa . . . .

Hm . . . .

That's a very interesting idea...

[_BB_]

She's so cute!

I wholeheartedly agree :woot:

[X-Maniac]

Well, her name was on Stryker's computer in X2. He was somehow aware of her existence. But her powers - the electrical field when she is using them - make her impossible to psychically probe or manipulate, so his son would be unable to control her, as he was at the end of X2. Too much spiky electrostatics for her mind to be invaded.

[TNC9852002]

Well, her name was on Stryker's computer in X2. He was somehow aware of her existence. But her powers - the electrical field when she is using them - make her impossible to psychically probe or manipulate, so his son would be unable to control her, as he was at the end of X2. Too much spiky electrostatics for her mind to be invaded.
Yeah, Storm wasn't entirely immune but she was able to see through Jason's mental projections. I guess as a little girl, she'd be a lot weaker and easier to manipulate.

-TNC

[Rac]

Why would Wolverine see the resemblance between a little girl and decades later(after probably some mind wipes) and the hot Halle Berry Storm?
How many black females with white hair and weather controlling powers are there in the world?

[X-Maniac]

How many black females with white hair and weather controlling powers are there in the world?

Wolverine had amnesia in the X-trilogy and couldn't remember his past.

Apparently you have amnesia as well as you seem unable to remember any of what went on in the X-Men movies.

[Angamb]

is funny how in the Wovlerine movie appear Gambit, Emma, Storm, Cyclops....

just add Rogue and Jean and you'd have a bigger team than in X-men 1 :woot:

[usagicassidy]

Hell, there's already a bigger team when you trow in Deadpool, Sabes, and the rest o the team.

[Nightmare]

Dont forget about child cyclops!

[Electrix]

Dont forget about child cyclops!

I think it's a case of teen Cyclops, rather than child.

[BMM]

Yeah, I believe the actor playing young Cyclops is only a few years younger than Taylor Kitsch.

[FaT_tONle]

So it is pretty evident from the trailer that we have a cameo from a young version of Storm.

http://i36.tinypic.com/1410avc.jpg

Lets speculate from this single screenshot what her cameo could involve!


Way too young... I know Halle Berry looked like a 20 year old but damn... How does this fit into the timeline? With an older Gambit/Cyclops. I mean by ten years at least.

[CapFirstAvenger]

Maybe Storm and Gambit appear in completely different decades in the movie.

This movie does span over from when Wolverine was born (late 1800's) to when he was in X1 (2000). I'm still hoping that Gambit appears towards the end before Wolverine goes up north, but this Storm scene looks like it happens in the early stages of assembling the Weapon X-Team, and time wise that would put Storm at just the perfect age for the movies

[Neto Magnus]

hmm after seeing the trailer I gotta say I'm actually ok with these cameos. I like the idea of Wolverine being some kind of link to the X-men past, present and future.


But just as long as Logan never meets young Cyclops or Storm in this movie.

[Juggernaut33]

Way too young... I know Halle Berry looked like a 20 year old but damn... How does this fit into the timeline? With an older Gambit/Cyclops. I mean by ten years at least.

You can see the members of the Team X behind little Storm so this scene takes place during the Vietnam War which happened 30 years or so prior to the first X-Men Movie...

[FrostBite]

You can see the members of the Team X behind little Storm so this scene takes place during the Vietnam War which happened 30 years or so prior to the first X-Men Movie...

Which would make Scott in his 40's and Storm in her 30's. (If I'm not mistaken, and -- assuming that X-men took place the year it was released, rather than the 90's.)

[FrostBite]

hmm after seeing the trailer I gotta say I'm actually ok with these cameos. I like the idea of Wolverine being some kind of link to the X-men past, present and future.


But just as long as Logan never meets young Cyclops or Storm in this movie.

Logan meets Scott, but I believe Scott's eyes are covered with bandages.

Edit: I too like the link. Gives a reason as to why some of them would be called the "X-men" after being related in some way to the "Weapon X Program"

[Neto Magnus]

assuming its called Weapon X in the movie.

[FrostBite]

assuming its called Weapon X in the movie.

:oldrazz: True. But with the way X's have been thrown around on doors, as the names of genes, Professor Xavier, the X claw marks in the steel in the new trailer... I think they can give us a little "Weapon X."

..Maybe.

[FaT_tONle]

You can see the members of the Team X behind little Storm so this scene takes place during the Vietnam War which happened 30 years or so prior to the first X-Men Movie...

That's true... I just think that with all these cameos and timelines... they will **** it up somewhere in time during the film. They are trying to cram WAY too much... save the 1800's scene for a sequel or something.

[DJSCARLET]

hmm after seeing the trailer I gotta say I'm actually ok with these cameos. I like the idea of Wolverine being some kind of link to the X-men past, present and future.


But just as long as Logan never meets young Cyclops or Storm in this movie.

Wolverine: uniting x-men members since 1974 :oldrazz:

its like six degrees of separation.

[the a1ant]

I love the character, so I'm just happy Storm is in this to some extent. It'll be interesting to see how they play it out. She's just young enough to not remember Logan I guess (assuming they even meet in the film).

[Neto Magnus]

oh and lets hope Cyclops and Storm dont meet in the past. Then again that would establish a strong friendship between teh 2. But this can be a slippy slop if not done properly.

[flavio_lebeau]

whatever happened to her as a kid, it badly affected her hairstyling choices, because this looks a lot better than her X1 hair. Though kinda similar to X2.

She's really cute, and this just makes me want a Storm origins movie even more.

[Neto Magnus]

she looks like rapper Eve.

[FaT_tONle]

Hope this at least means a Magneto movie... or an X-Men prequel... I'd prefer both. Don't want X-4 though. I mean give the Wolverine character a rest for a change. We better get those films before another Wolverine movie.

[EnDz0n3]

Well, it's ironic how people complain about a few things here and there, especially when it comes down to source material. They manage to put in a young Gambit and Storm in the same movie, material straight out of the comic book, but some people still seem oblivious to the idea. ;)

I think it's a nice touch and hey, we know Wolverine's had some serious amnesiac moments in the X-Men movies. Maybe Storm has them too.

-TNC

It is a nice wink to the fans I'll give you that the only problem is in current continuity Storm is supposed to be older and more mature than Gambit. The younger Storm and Adult Gambit -storyline only existing because of Storm being de-aged.


But just as long as Logan never meets young Cyclops or Storm in this movie.

That's what I am worried about too.

So we now know that there is a scene with baby Storm and Sabretooth, I'm kinda looking forward to the origins of a "Scream for me!" scene. :wow:

[JerseyJoker]

I really dont see the reason to get upset about the timeline of it all.

Wolverine is ageless, so he would look the same from the time Storm was that young to her when they meet in X1, plus, we see that Wolvie has some serious amnesia, and can't remember his past, which would make sense that he doesn't remember Sabertooth or others.

I just dont see it as a point of the film to be upset or complain about, from the trailer, it looks like they are taking the film in a great direction, well crafted scenes, great cinematography, director is a real talent and that cast is great. Simply, i cant wait for it.

[EnDz0n3]

I really dont see the reason to get upset about the timeline of it all.

Wolverine is ageless, so he would look the same from the time Storm was that young to her when they meet in X1, plus, we see that Wolvie has some serious amnesia, and can't remember his past, which would make sense that he doesn't remember Sabertooth or others.

I just dont see it as a point of the film to be upset or complain about, from the trailer, it looks like they are taking the film in a great direction, well crafted scenes, great cinematography, director is a real talent and that cast is great. Simply, i cant wait for it.

I am not upset about having a young Storm and an older Wolverine.

As a Gambit fan, I will, however, be disappointed if they have Gambit be that much older than the "senior" members of the X-men.

[gap5ewl]

So I'm guessing she's part of the prisoners that Stryker has, along with Emma and Scott.

[JerseyJoker]

Who knows the timeframe of Gambits apperance though. And we finally have Gambit in a movie, a real life, card throwing, staff slamming, cajun talking movie. Who cares how old he is, just so great to finally see him in the flesh, after years of waiting, and im a big Gambit fan myself.

[COAL TIGER]

The X-men movies take place in the near future. How is the timelines fitting. How does this also fit in with the rest of the Marvel universe? This is something I've been wonder everytime I see an X-men movie

[Sam Fisher]

How does any of the movies before Iron MAn fit into the Marvel universe? Lol.

[Andreth]

As a Gambit fan, I will, however, be disappointed if they have Gambit be that much older than the "senior" members of the X-men.

I wouldn't worry about that at all, I don't want to repeat everything again so I'll just quote the asnwers to that :woot:

You can see the members of the Team X behind little Storm so this scene takes place during the Vietnam War which happened 30 years or so prior to the first X-Men Movie...

but this Storm scene looks like it happens in the early stages of assembling the Weapon X-Team, and time wise that would put Storm at just the perfect age for the movies

See? he'll meet a young Gambit many years after that.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Well, it's ironic how people complain about a few things here and there, especially when it comes down to source material. They manage to put in a young Gambit and Storm in the same movie, material straight out of the comic book, but some people still seem oblivious to the idea. ;)

Do you really think they are going to connect Gambit's first comic appearance (saving a de-aged Storm) to the movies?

I just don't see them going that route. I don't see them putting that much effort into the Gambit character.

[Nature's Rising]

She's sooo cute. And I was so giddy when I saw this. I love little cameos from the X-Men since I don't like Wolvie all that much. This is just a go for me from now on.

[HughJackFan420]

i really hope thats not storm i mean doesn't storm and gambit know each other. don't they have history and are closer in age then what it looks like from this speculation?

[The Original Bamfer]

That's definitely Storm. :huh:

[merbass]

Storm junior scene takes place in the forest to showcase her power. She will run off and won't get caught.

Cyclop and Emma were captured and freed. Cyclop will meet Charles and Teen storm in which they became his first group of students.

Logan, Gambit fight will take place near the end of the film when Logan tried to solve his past problem. He was led to believe that Gambit knows what happened to Silverfox.

[Knightsaber Priss]

Gambit and Storm and the post-Australia "child-ifying" of Storm from the comic books!

Cool. So . . . could Storm be a protege of Gambit or something? Even if she's not in Africa . . . .

Hm . . . .

I thought that Storm spent most of her childhood as a pickpocket on the streets of Cairo, Egypt. It was only later on she became an African "deity".

[Rac]

Wolverine had amnesia in the X-trilogy and couldn't remember his past.

Apparently you have amnesia as well as you seem unable to remember any of what went on in the X-Men movies.
Fox lover. :o


(:cwink:)

[COAL TIGER]

How does any of the movies before Iron MAn fit into the Marvel universe? Lol.

Blade- 1998

Spider-man- 2002

Daredevil- 2003

Hulk- 2003/2008

Fantastic Four- 2005

Ghost Rider- 2007

Iron Man-2008

If those movies happened in those years then thats a very short period of time. The X-men movies take place in the near future. I don't know the year the first takes place in but it doesn't fit in with the timeline of the Marvel movie universe.

[pyro9vivacita]

Does anyone have any idea where the scene where the weapon x team is standing together might have taken place??? Also the woman laying behind Sabes seems to be an African Woman... and in the trailer there is lightning during that scene... could young storm be the person they are looking at?? Just a thought.. lol

[Super-Bats]

so....if young Storm meets Wolverine and Sabretooth....wouldn't she remember them when she's older, even though Wolvie and Sabre might not remember her ( due to mental implants/amnesia )?

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

so....if young Storm meets Wolverine and Sabretooth....wouldn't she remember them when she's older, even though Wolvie and Sabre might not remember her ( due to mental implants/amnesia )?

We don't know yet that she meets them.

[X-Fan#1]

If those movies happened in those years then thats a very short period of time. The X-men movies take place in the near future. I don't know the year the first takes place in but it doesn't fit in with the timeline of the Marvel movie universe.


Why doesn't it fit in with the other movies of the marvel universe, and why do you think the X-Men movies take place in the near future? When was that stated in the movies? (Other than X3 in the Danger Room scene)

[JerseyJoker]

Well if your going by real life events, then X1 has to take place in a pre-9/11 world, so that sorta sets the ground to when the X films happen.

[the a1ant]

I'm thinking that's her mother on the ground. Maybe we'll get a peek at the death of Storm's parents? In the comics, it led her to becoming a thief and eventually meeting Xavier.

[COAL TIGER]

Why doesn't it fit in with the other movies of the marvel universe, and why do you think the X-Men movies take place in the near future? When was that stated in the movies? (Other than X3 in the Danger Room scene)

It actually said "the not too distant future". And it said that at the beginning of all three. I don't know exactly when that is but it could mean 2030 for all we know. And it would'nt fit in with the other marvel movies because they take place in the present. The other characters would be mid-aged or close to elderly.

[TNC9852002]

Well, Storm looks like she's only like 5 or 6 in the scene here. I'm sure either she knew of Sabretooth in the scene (not necessarily by name), or her later encounters with him, by this time, she couldn't remember him.

I mean, I could see if she was around him a lot as a young kid, but if she only saw him this one time, it's very likely that she wouldn't be able to remember again 25 years later.

-TNC

[Juggernaut33]

I'm thinking that's her mother on the ground. Maybe we'll get a peek at the death of Storm's parents? In the comics, it led her to becoming a thief and eventually meeting Xavier.

Good point.

Actually this might be the reason why, as Gavin Hood said, feels that he needs redemption and has to depart from the Team X and his sociopath brother.

I could see the Team X having a mission somewhere in Africa where they have to bring back a child mutant who can, reportedly, influence the weather and things like that. Logan kills her whole family.

Might be good. You'd have a mirror to what happened with Thomas Logan when Logan was a child. In this case, Logan has become Thomas Logan, in a way.

[X-Maniac]

Fox lover. :o


(:cwink:)

Heh. Nope, I'm just realistic and I don't hate for the sake of hate.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

So we now know that there is a scene with baby Storm and Sabretooth, I'm kinda looking forward to the origins of a "Scream for me!" scene. :wow:

Those 2 had a few scene's in the first movie which indicated a little bit of history. At the time I thought it was simply previous battle's between the X-Men and Brotherhood, but Wolverine may just give a little taster of this future dynamic which would be REALLY cool IMO.

[TNC9852002]

Heh. Nope, I'm just realistic and I don't hate for the sake of hate.
;)

Those 2 had a few scene's in the first movie which indicated a little bit of history. At the time I thought it was simply previous battle's between the X-Men and Brotherhood, but Wolverine may just give a little taster of this future dynamic which would be REALLY cool IMO.
Ya know, I would LOVE if they put in that dynamic.

-TNC

[X-Maniac]

I must admit I'm not even a great fan of the Wolverine character - he was my least favourite in the comics! - but the interweaving of these other characters such as a young Storm has me very intrigued and interested.

[X-Maniac]

It actually said "the not too distant future". And it said that at the beginning of all three. I don't know exactly when that is but it could mean 2030 for all we know. And it would'nt fit in with the other marvel movies because they take place in the present. The other characters would be mid-aged or close to elderly.

I don't think it's that far ahead, I'm sure there have been dates shown in screen in the TV news bulletins within the films. We see a young Magneto in 1944, and the film's adult version looks in his 60s, so that gives a rough idea. If he was about 10 in 1944, he'd be 60 in 2004 and 70 in 2014, so the films are between those two dates, I should think. 2004 was the future when the first film came out in 2000.

Plus - although it was only an Easter egg - Stryker's computer in X2 showed the name Franklin Richards who clearly hadn't been born yet in the FF movies.

[X-Maniac]

Well, Storm looks like she's only like 5 or 6 in the scene here. I'm sure either she knew of Sabretooth in the scene (not necessarily by name), or her later encounters with him, by this time, she couldn't remember him.

I mean, I could see if she was around him a lot as a young kid, but if she only saw him this one time, it's very likely that she wouldn't be able to remember again 25 years later.

-TNC


I also don't think that she needed to acknowledge him even if she did remember him. When, in X1, she was lifted off the ground and smashed into a ticket booth with Sabretooth's clawed hand throttling her, it wasn't really the time for a 'hello, i remember you.'

Xavier knew of Sabretooth, he tells Wolverine about him. It could be that Xavier knew partly because of info from Storm.

[Spider-Fan83]

ya, it wasn't really implied that she didn't know him or recognize him

the team knew of him, as one of magnetos, henchmen, it probably was her first encounter with him
there would of been no reason, for her to go out of her way to point out that she remembers him from 20-30 years ago, at that time

them having previous known each other, it would explain why he went directly after her, with that whole "scream for me" line... too


if she meets wolverine, that’s another story

[insane polaris]

I think you all are being a little unrealistic.
if storm is about 5 in this film, then how is she supposed to remember much of that day 25 years later.

i guess Sabretooths team was only there a couple days at the most. it would have only a been a brief encounter.

even is she met Wolverine, i still say it would be extremely difficult for her to remember.

i dont remember what my nursery teacher looks like and she taught me for a year (she has now moved down the road from me and i didnt recognise her 12 years later).

anyway, i kinda like the idea of Wolverine and Storms paths crossing, but without them knowing.

[EnDz0n3]

Since this is a movie, a superhero/fantastical movie no less, characters' experiences, encounters, dialogues have a bit more significance than that of *our* everyday experiences, encounters and dialogue. Things happen for a reason.

To chalk up a scene as "maybe she doesn't remember" is lazy story-telling to say the least.

[TNC9852002]

I seriously think it could go either way.

-TNC

[X-Fan#1]

It actually said "the not too distant future". And it said that at the beginning of all three. I don't know exactly when that is but it could mean 2030 for all we know. And it would'nt fit in with the other marvel movies because they take place in the present. The other characters would be mid-aged or close to elderly.

I imagine that "the not to distant future" in all of these movies was just a way to explain some of the technology like Cerebro, but I don't think that they were set very far from our time.

[COAL TIGER]

I don't think it's that far ahead, I'm sure there have been dates shown in screen in the TV news bulletins within the films. We see a young Magneto in 1944, and the film's adult version looks in his 60s, so that gives a rough idea. If he was about 10 in 1944, he'd be 60 in 2004 and 70 in 2014, so the films are between those two dates, I should think. 2004 was the future when the first film came out in 2000.

Plus - although it was only an Easter egg - Stryker's computer in X2 showed the name Franklin Richards who clearly hadn't been born yet in the FF movies.

Oops, I meant to say "other marvel charcters would be mid-aged and close to elderly".

But yeah, I forgot about Magneto at the beginning of the first one. So the first one could've tooken place in just 2012.

[Shade]

So we now know that there is a scene with baby Storm and Sabretooth, I'm kinda looking forward to the origins of a "Scream for me!" scene. :wow:

OMG! I forgot all about those scenes when he told her to scream for him. Perhaps as a child, Storm could've been terrorized and frightened by Creed. Which is why he tells her to scream for him in X1!

[Kellys Heroes]

If Wolve is meeting all these Future XMen in this movie; how come none of them remember him. I understand why he won't remember... but has every Mutant been minded wipe or this Fox making up thier own Crap.

[EnDz0n3]

Most (?) of us are hoping none of the X-men meet or see Wolverine.

[godiva_goddess]

Hey guys! I'm new here, well actually I've been reading all your posts for a while...- I didn't sign up until just now! XD Anyways, Im a diehard Storm fan and when I saw the Origins Wolverine trailer, I was tooooooooooootally taken by surprise!

[TNC9852002]

If Wolve is meeting all these Future XMen in this movie; how come none of them remember him. I understand why he won't remember... but has every Mutant been minded wipe or this Fox making up thier own Crap.
:whatever: to that, but there's no indication anywhere, from this trailer that suggests that Wolverine meets any X-Men at all.

We see Storm in one shot, but Wolverine doesn't seem to be in that scene at all.

Like we've mentioned, Storm is still very young in this film. It is not inconceivable that some of her memories are foggy about the people that were around her at this time.

Heh, I haven't heard anyone mention Storm not knowing about Stryker before Magneto talks about him in X2.

We just have to play it out and see the movie first before the arbitrary FOX blames continues.

-TNC

[sniktsnakt]

I thought that Storm spent most of her childhood as a pickpocket on the streets of Cairo, Egypt. It was only later on she became an African "deity".

That's right. But in the comics there was a time where the X-Men moved their base to Australia, and after a whole bunch of Bad goes down they're forced to flee through this portal-like thing called the Seige Perilous, and somehow Storm ended up in America de-aged to a kid, with no memories of who she was. She becomes a thief again, and runs into Gambit on one of her break-ins. If I'm not mistaken, that's Gambit's first appearance, and we've loved him ever since.

If that makes sense. :D :P

[BMM]

:whatever: to that, but there's no indication anywhere, from this trailer that suggests that Wolverine meets any X-Men at all.

We see Storm in one shot, but Wolverine doesn't seem to be in that scene at all.

Like we've mentioned, Storm is still very young in this film. It is not inconceivable that some of her memories are foggy about the people that were around her at this time.

Heh, I haven't heard anyone mention Storm not knowing about Stryker before Magneto talks about him in X2.

We just have to play it out and see the movie first before the arbitrary FOX blames continues.

-TNC

I agree. It's not inconceivable at all. In fact, it's much more inconceivable that a child that age would remember the face of a complete stranger 25 years later, especially if the two don't really even meet.

[vibeke_T]

Yay! Stormy

[X-Maniac]

Hey guys! I'm new here, well actually I've been reading all your posts for a while...- I didn't sign up until just now! XD Anyways, Im a diehard Storm fan and when I saw the Origins Wolverine trailer, I was tooooooooooootally taken by surprise!

I was taken by surprise too. I wonder what other surprises they have in store for us! :wow:

[FaT_tONle]

You guys think the Magneto movie can stuff in the X-Men origin? Wasn't Beast rumored to be in its script? You could pick off with where X-3 left off with the young Jean Grey. I mean the Holocaust should only really be half of the film really. I think we can forgo with X-Men prequel as it would be really redundant... especially since using Magneto as the only villain again is the only thig that would make sense.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

;)


Ya know, I would LOVE if they put in that dynamic.

-TNC

Yeah it would be great, and would tie into X1 superbly.

[godiva_goddess]

Well, lets not forget that we still have about 5 months ahead of us before we actually find out why shes there... :(

I told myself I wouldn't get hyped up when I saw the trailer...and I stubbed my toe jumping up and down when I saw lil' Storm... I hate it when irony rears its ugly backside in my face xP

[CeeJay]

There's obviously going to be a display of her powers. They wouldn't put her in there without that I don't reckon.

[Electrix]

Storm junior scene takes place in the forest to showcase her power. She will run off and won't get caught.

Cyclop and Emma were captured and freed. Cyclop will meet Charles and Teen storm in which they became his first group of students.

Logan, Gambit fight will take place near the end of the film when Logan tried to solve his past problem. He was led to believe that Gambit knows what happened to Silverfox.

People should read this guys posts more often.

[godiva_goddess]

People should read this guys posts more often.

I agree

[Chris Wallace]

Hostage at Sabretooth's 'camp'?

Plausible.

[godiva_goddess]

I want her to show off her theiving skills...

[TNC9852002]

Well, I don't remember her being a thief until she was at least in her early teens. It could still happen, but I doubt it.

Storm junior scene takes place in the forest to showcase her power. She will run off and won't get caught.

Cyclop and Emma were captured and freed. Cyclop will meet Charles and Teen storm in which they became his first group of students.

Logan, Gambit fight will take place near the end of the film when Logan tried to solve his past problem. He was led to believe that Gambit knows what happened to Silverfox.
Ahh. So, there's another scene that will have an older Cyke and Storm as teenagers with a young Xavier? :eek:

Interesting.

BTW, who are you again? ;)

-TNC

[sabetoonth]

back to creed and the "give me a scream" thing i remember seeing a look in storms eyes like she ways staring down satan himself, so maybe take use of that look and make him her personal devil from the time they first meet til forever, or therapy.
i could see storm having subconsiously if nothing else remembered creed and he kinda haunted the dreams of her child hood like the boogeyman, so when she sees him in xmen, she staring the boogeyman or the devil right in the eye, rekindling that fear and i just remembered the quote "you owe me a screeam"

[godiva_goddess]

back to creed and the "give me a scream" thing i remember seeing a look in storms eyes like she ways staring down satan himself, so maybe take use of that look and make him her personal devil from the time they first meet til forever, or therapy.
i could see storm having subconsiously if nothing else remembered creed and he kinda haunted the dreams of her child hood like the boogeyman, so when she sees him in xmen, she staring the boogeyman or the devil right in the eye, rekindling that fear and i just remembered the quote "you owe me a screeam"

Now THAT would be interesting! :applaud

[Chris Wallace]

back to creed and the "give me a scream" thing i remember seeing a look in storms eyes like she ways staring down satan himself, so maybe take use of that look and make him her personal devil from the time they first meet til forever, or therapy.
i could see storm having subconsiously if nothing else remembered creed and he kinda haunted the dreams of her child hood like the boogeyman, so when she sees him in xmen, she staring the boogeyman or the devil right in the eye, rekindling that fear and i just remembered the quote "you owe me a screeam"

I am so hoping for something like that. It would make perfect sense & be a nice tie-in to the X-Men films. I daresay that if they don't have him do something like that, there's no point in putting her in "Origins" at all.

[godiva_goddess]

I am so hoping for something like that. It would make perfect sense & be a nice tie-in to the X-Men films. I daresay that if they don't have him do something like that, there's no point in putting her in "Origins" at all.

:bow:

[Chris Wallace]

And I have a supporter. Cool.

[Chris Wallace]

Back to the topic at hand-
I was re-watching X1 & Storm's reaction to Sabretooth did kinda give the vibe that there was more going on than just her being scared of what he might do now.

[sabetoonth]

merry christmas

[CyclopsSummers]

Child Storm looks the same age as child Jean in X3. But she's 10 in X3 intro whereas Storm is a little younger in this
In X-men moviverse Jean is the 1st Xavier 's pupil or what :hehe: (in comics Xavier recruits her as an ado, also like anime Wolverine n X-men)

[protocida]

Storm junior scene takes place in the forest to showcase her power. She will run off and won't get caught.

Cyclop and Emma were captured and freed. Cyclop will meet Charles and Teen storm in which they became his first group of students.

Logan, Gambit fight will take place near the end of the film when Logan tried to solve his past problem. He was led to believe that Gambit knows what happened to Silverfox.
Is this serious or are you just especulating? Is it confirmed.

If so, i don't know if i feel excited about the news of angry for being spoiled. :cmad:

[EnDz0n3]

Is this serious or are you just especulating? Is it confirmed.

If so, i don't know if i feel excited about the news of angry for being spoiled. :cmad:

Dude, you're in the Spoilers forum..what did you expect? :p LOL

But yea some of us think that merbass may be an insider, but of course, with the nature of internet forums, etc. we wouldn't know if its all true til we see the film for ourselves.

I'm kinda liking Storm not being captured. It means she might not have met either Logan or Stryker which would mean no need to explain why she wouldnt know either one in the first X-men movie.

I'm kinda hoping Sabretooth taunts her tho.

[javphonic]

back to creed and the "give me a scream" thing i remember seeing a look in storms eyes like she ways staring down satan himself, so maybe take use of that look and make him her personal devil from the time they first meet til forever, or therapy.
i could see storm having subconsiously if nothing else remembered creed and he kinda haunted the dreams of her child hood like the boogeyman, so when she sees him in xmen, she staring the boogeyman or the devil right in the eye, rekindling that fear and i just remembered the quote "you owe me a screeam"

That'd be so nice if she was a captive and Sabretooth tried to scare her , and said something like "scream for me" and she was just petrified and silent, thus tieing in X1, even more, nice, I didn't even think of this connection

and for the person who said something about Wolverine not reckognizing the X-Men in X1, (1) as shown most of the cast will be children our young teens and (2) Wolverine doesn't necessarily have the best memory, let alone remembering a specific bunch of kids 20 years later

[CyclopsSummers]

In this movie Scott must be a Xavier'student, because Jean was recruited as a child lol

[Chris Wallace]

I hope the creative team behind Wolverine used this to their advantage. A considerable amount of Storm's scenes are shared with Sabretooth. It's not like she had a lot to begin with anyways... :p

There was a deleted scene in the first X-men movie where we are shown Storm checking out the scars on her neck from Sabretooth's strangling, on a mirror. I even had a trading card of it. IIRC, it occurs right before Wolverine storms out (no pun intended) of the mansion, during Storm's "atleast I have a side spiel.

I forgot about that. I have to put emphasis on your opening line just because of that.

[EnDz0n3]

We've been seeing eye to eye a lot lately!

[Psykoelf]

and for the person who said something about Wolverine not reckognizing the X-Men in X1, (1) as shown most of the cast will be children our young teens and (2) Wolverine doesn't necessarily have the best memory, let alone remembering a specific bunch of kids 20 years later

Well since lines are being drawn Origins and X1, in X1 there was that stand off between Cyclops and Wolverine with the line spoken by Cyclops "must burn you that a boy like me saved your life".

In reverse of Javphonics' point of Wolverine not remembering the youngens, I'm finding it a tad difficult to swallow that Cyclops and Storm, having previous encounters with Wolverine, wouldn't remember him in the current time. I think having saucy mutton chops and blades sticking out of his hands etc. would be something you would remember forever, not to mention looking the same age. But then this could bring us to Xavier and that's a whole other can of worms that may come up later if a sequel gets greened.

[sniktsnakt]

Well since lines are being drawn Origins and X1, in X1 there was that stand off between Cyclops and Wolverine with the line spoken by Cyclops "must burn you that a boy like me saved your life".

In reverse of Javphonics' point of Wolverine not remembering the youngens, I'm finding it a tad difficult to swallow that Cyclops and Storm, having previous encounters with Wolverine, wouldn't remember him in the current time. I think having saucy mutton chops and blades sticking out of his hands etc. would be something you would remember forever, not to mention looking the same age. But then this could bring us to Xavier and that's a whole other can of worms that may come up later if a sequel gets greened.

True, that. If Cyclops is going to be old enough that his mutant powers are already kicking in, then he should be old enough to remember Wolverine. After all, mutant powers kick in around puberty. And if the excuse is that he's blindfolded the whole movie, that won't cut it. If everything goes crazy around him, of course kid-Cyclops is going to ask what the heck is going on, and someone would tell him, "Well, there's a crazy clawed dude cutting up people."

Even if he didn't see Wolverine and immediately think, "Hey, that's that claws dude," at least after the whole Weapon X revelation he'd but 2 and 2 together.

[protocida]

Or maybe he just wants to get the f**k out of there.

[Psykoelf]

True, that. If Cyclops is going to be old enough that his mutant powers are already kicking in, then he should be old enough to remember Wolverine. After all, mutant powers kick in around puberty. And if the excuse is that he's blindfolded the whole movie, that won't cut it. If everything goes crazy around him, of course kid-Cyclops is going to ask what the heck is going on, and someone would tell him, "Well, there's a crazy clawed dude cutting up people."

Even if he didn't see Wolverine and immediately think, "Hey, that's that claws dude," at least after the whole Weapon X revelation he'd but 2 and 2 together.

Cyclops is a difficult one for the remembrance scenario, considering that yeah he may be blindfolded the whole time, but Storm, if she remembers the sadism of Sabretooth/Creed, then she would have to remember the heroism of Logan. But yeah X2 something should of clicked with him, but they wrote this way after X2 so everything is really just speculation.

Or maybe he just wants to get the f**k out of there.

Agreed, who wouldn't ... 'cept maybe some seriously demented psychopaths.

It would be interesting that if more Wolverine solos get greenlit and assuming that he doesn't have a complete memory wipe by the end of this one, that Xavier could be later held accountable for his memory loss and therefore everyone else's. I mean who the hell was Xavier tracking in X1 anyway?!! And Xavier did have dealings with Stryker before, and lets not forget what Xavier did with Jean in X3.

I realise now that I really don't like Xavier much.

[Chris Wallace]

We've been seeing eye to eye a lot lately!

Happens like that sometimes. You'll go post for post with one person & be almost completely in sync. At the same time, you're battling somebody else on another thread & getting nowhere.

[Chris Wallace]

Cyclops is a difficult one for the remembrance scenario, considering that yeah he may be blindfolded the whole time, but Storm, if she remembers the sadism of Sabretooth/Creed, then she would have to remember the heroism of Logan. But yeah X2 something should of clicked with him, but they wrote this way after X2 so everything is really just speculation.



Agreed, who wouldn't ... 'cept maybe some seriously demented psychopaths.

It would be interesting that if more Wolverine solos get greenlit and assuming that he doesn't have a complete memory wipe by the end of this one, that Xavier could be later held accountable for his memory loss and therefore everyone else's. I mean who the hell was Xavier tracking in X1 anyway?!! And Xavier did have dealings with Stryker before, and lets not forget what Xavier did with Jean in X3.

I realise now that I really don't like Xavier much.I've argued for years that Xavier & Magneto are flipsides of the same coin in a lot of ways.
"I'll protect you, I'll train you, I'll protect you. I'll provide you safe haven from a world that fears & despises you. I'll teach you how to control your powers so you don't feel like such a freak. And all I ask in return is that on my command, you don a costume & go out to beat up on anyone who disagrees with me."

[Psykoelf]

I've argued for years that Xavier & Magneto are flipsides of the same coin in a lot of ways.
"I'll protect you, I'll train you, I'll protect you. I'll provide you safe haven from a world that fears & despises you. I'll teach you how to control your powers so you don't feel like such a freak. And all I ask in return is that on my command, you don a costume & go out to beat up on anyone who disagrees with me."

Xaviers' an a'hole. I can see why Cyclops dumped him in Uncanny way back, and with Legacy focusing on Charles' past, he's not the sincere protector he seemed

[Chris Wallace]

I wouldn't go that far. I just think that, much like his old friend, he's an "ends justify the means" kinda guy.

[protocida]

I don't know what to think about Xavier being a d*ck. I understand that it's more realistic, but Ultimate Xavier is alredy and as**ole. Was it really necessary to make 616's one also?

[sniktsnakt]

I don't know what to think about Xavier being a d*ck. I understand that it's more realistic, but Ultimate Xavier is alredy and as**ole. Was it really necessary to make 616's one also?

I know. But it seems like they've been doing that to a lot of characters recently.

I mean, Wolverine's always been a shady "good guy" (anti-hero and all), but recently all the stuff from Wolverine Origins has put me in denial.

Torturing innocents and killing children? Honestly, brainwashed or no, I'm not sold.

[protocida]

Torturing innocents?

KILLING CHILDREN!

That's ****ing not Wolverine!

[sniktsnakt]

Torturing innocents?

KILLING CHILDREN!

That's ****ing not Wolverine!

I KNOW! :cmad::cmad:

I've ranted about this so much I think my computer's getting sick of having it typed out.

I hate Wolverine: Origins. Kill Daken, undo the stupid "Wolverine-has-been-manipulated-all-his-life" speil, and bring back the guy we know and love!

:cmad:

I think those comics may go on my list of "comic arcs that happened but I'm going to ignore they happened and pretend they don't exist."

The end.

[sabetoonth]

i relize this aint gonna seem plasable, but sabertooth possesion?

[sniktsnakt]

i relize this aint gonna seem plasable, but sabertooth possesion?

Are you talking about the Wolverine: Origins arc?

If you haven't read them, it pretty much blames all of his actions on intensive brainwashing and crazy manipulation from some previously-unknown crazy wolf-guy.

But that includes killing off civilians in order to traumatize their kids into becoming future psycho-cases, and taking people from Japanese internment camps during WWII, using them for painful scientific experiments, and then blowing them all up once the scientists were through with him.

Yeah. Be angry, then do as I do and ignore the whole thing.

[protocida]

The only way i see this working is that, in the final issues, Wolverine wakes up and discovers that he was captured by soldiers in a bar and EVERYTHING in the series was just Dr. Cornelius or other random mad scientist ****ing him.

[Chris Wallace]

Sortof on topic...though this is definitely not "Young Storm" material...some might say it's Adult Storm. VERY ADULT STORM =

Edit: Nevermind. :o ( you guys might want to delete the link on your quotes too...

...^ That's Halle on the Vancouver set of her new film, sans Storm costume and everything else for that matter...you've been warned.

I'm really not impressed.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Well, it goes without saying that I am totally intriqued by this film, and all the more so by the inclusion of these mutants. Question for discussion: Is it possible that young Storm has little or no relevance at all to this film's storyline? A la the flashbacks of Magnus and Rogue in X1?

[sniktsnakt]

The thing is, even though Rogue and Magneto's flashbacks had no direct connection to the storyline in X1, it served to introduce two of the most important characters *to* the plot.

I don't think she's a major part, but I'd say she at least has a small one.

[EnDz0n3]

People are speculating that she evades capture by Sabretooth (and the rest of Stryker's group). I picture that a la Kitty Pryde's, as played by Katie Stuart's, quick power show role in X2. I guess we'll see right.

[Chris Wallace]

The thing is, even though Rogue and Magneto's flashbacks had no direct connection to the storyline in X1, it served to introduce two of the most important characters *to* the plot.

I don't think she's a major part, but I'd say she at least has a small one.

ROgue's flashback served to show us how she discovered her mutation. Magneto's did that, as well as give us some insight into why he thinks the way that he does & does the things that he does. With no other mention or reference to his time in the concentration camp, he just comes off as a paranoid fanatic for no reason. But we know why he says things like "Let them pass that law & they'll have you in chains, with a number burned into your forehead!" or "Noone ever talks about (extermination); they just do it." It all goes back to the atrocities that he both witnessed & personally suffered at the hands of the Nazis.
Back on point, I doubt that young Storm's role will be comparable to say, Gambit's name being in the mutant database or Henry McCoy being on TV in X2, or the reference to Doc Connors in Spider-Man 1; there just for the hell of it. I don't think they'd make her that insignificant.
Then again, they've done it to her before.

[Neptune]

Any chance will see young Storm and Gambit together? That would be awesome! But it probably won't happen :csad:

[EnDz0n3]

Having Gambit that much older than any of the "senior" members of the X-men is one of the few things im totally against in the X-men movies. I'm very much hoping that Gambit's scenes are set close to when the first movie started.

[Chris Wallace]

Unlikely. Just as unlikely as him being paired with Storm. New Orleans & Africa are pretty far apart.
And since he's not an X-Man in the movie & clearly never will be, what difference does his age make?

[WillardNation]

If everything goes crazy around him, of course kid-Cyclops is going to ask what the heck is going on, and someone would tell him, "Well, there's a crazy clawed dude cutting up people."

Even if he didn't see Wolverine and immediately think, "Hey, that's that claws dude," at least after the whole Weapon X revelation he'd but 2 and 2 together.

HAHAHA, that made me laugh alot. Well done sir.

[Endeavor]

it’s in this scene that storm first determines what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning…

roflmao!!!

[Endeavor]

So I'm guessing she's part of the prisoners that Stryker has, along with Emma and Scott.

I hope not. This would be the worse scenario in my point of view because they would be trampling on X1 continuity. I think since the story in this movie spans such a long period of time it would be better if the Storm cameo takes place earlier in the film and then the Cyclops and Emma cameo take place towards the end when many more years have passed.

[Endeavor]

I'm thinking that's her mother on the ground. Maybe we'll get a peek at the death of Storm's parents? ..

That would be sweet. I'd love it if they were somehow killed by Sabes and that is one of the things that make Wolverine and Creed fight (maybe why Creed is left behind?) Which would also play in somewhat with the Storm/Sabertooth scene in X1.. Bah who am I kidding it'll never happen

[Bluefire]

There's obviously going to be a display of her powers. They wouldn't put her in there without that I don't reckon.


but so young? ororo never displayed her abilities at such a young age. only her physical mutation.

[merbass]

This is the movie version of X-men and not the comics. I guess they could make her an American who was born in America and displayed her power since very young age.

I didn't know Pyro was Australian in the movie either.

[EnDz0n3]

This is the movie version of X-men and not the comics. I guess they could make her an American who was born in America and displayed her power since very young age.

I didn't know Pyro was Australian in the movie either.

So merbass are you saying that Storm scene is set in the US? :huh:

Any info on what they will be filming in Vancouver?

[x-men_pro]

well storm was actually born in america and grew up a bit there too.

[Chris Wallace]

Doesn't mean that it'll be acknowledged in a movie. Rogue was part of the brotherhood, Wolverine's first assignment was to take down the Hulk, Juggernaut & Xavier are stepbrothers & the Punisher's first target was Spider-Man. Everything that happens in comics doesn't make its way into movies.

[EnDz0n3]

We're just speculating where the Storm scene is set in, which prompted the response of "storm was born in the US."

[Chris Wallace]

I get that. I'm just saying it doesn't necessarily mean they'll touch on it. Especially in a film series where Magneto has a British accent.

[sabetoonth]

he has a british accent?

[TNC9852002]

Well, he's using whatever accent Ian McKellen usually speaks with, so, yeah. :p

It's sounds like a very slightly less thick version of his natural English accent.

-TNC

[Electrix]

I get that. I'm just saying it doesn't necessarily mean they'll touch on it. Especially in a film series where Magneto has a British accent.

A British accent doesn't exist. It's either English, Scottish, Irish or Welsh. (Sorry to nitpick :))

[sabetoonth]

yeah but we english so egish no accent


now nickpick i dare ya!

[Ares23]

She is soo cute!! and very looking alike a young halle berry! :D love to see her as a cameo (I cant say the same for emma, banshee)

[Endeavor]

I have a problem understanding whatever sabetoonth writes.. :huh:

[Endeavor]

She is soo cute!! and very looking alike a young halle berry! :D love to see her as a cameo (I cant say the same for emma, banshee)

You don't want to see the other cameos or you mean you don't agree with the actors they are using for them?

[X-Maniac]

I get that. I'm just saying it doesn't necessarily mean they'll touch on it. Especially in a film series where Magneto has a British accent.

He never had a 'British accent'. He added American inflections, making it sound 'transatlantic'. And he said so himself. :yay:

In X1, at the Statue of Liberty, for instance: 'I first saw it in 19-fordy-nine' for example. :word:

[WillardNation]

She is soo cute!! and very looking alike a young halle berry! :D love to see her as a cameo (I cant say the same for emma, banshee)

where was Banshee in there?

[Endeavor]

where was Banshee in there?

Supposedly he's one of the 'kids' being held at Stryker's camp and you can tell it's him because he's gagged.. But I never saw it.

[union_jak]

The X-men movies take place in the near future. How is the timelines fitting. How does this also fit in with the rest of the Marvel universe? This is something I've been wonder everytime I see an X-men movie

I don't think it's that far ahead, I'm sure there have been dates shown in screen in the TV news bulletins within the films. We see a young Magneto in 1944, and the film's adult version looks in his 60s, so that gives a rough idea. If he was about 10 in 1944, he'd be 60 in 2004 and 70 in 2014, so the films are between those two dates, I should think. 2004 was the future when the first film came out in 2000.

Plus - although it was only an Easter egg - Stryker's computer in X2 showed the name Franklin Richards who clearly hadn't been born yet in the FF movies.
I might be a bit late to reply to this, but X-Men was set in the "not too distant future", X2 was set roughly six months after that, and X3 was set 6-12 months after X2. 2004 would make sense for X-Men's set time. X3 was supposedly set in the present day (2006), with the young Jean scene taking place in 1986 and the young Angel scene taking place in 1996.

I'd hope any scene with Storm or Cyclops in Wolverine wouldn't be set any earlier than the mid 90s, to keep in line with young Jean's X3 scene.

[spidey-dude]

A British accent doesn't exist. It's either English, Scottish, Irish or Welsh. (Sorry to nitpick :))
or scouse or geordie or cockney or yorkshire or lancashire etc......

[TNC9852002]

He never had a 'British accent'. He added American inflections, making it sound 'transatlantic'. And he said so himself. :yay:

In X1, at the Statue of Liberty, for instance: 'I first saw it in 19-fordy-nine' for example. :word:
I was on the right track, then. :p

I just never knew McKellen actually said that himself. Where did he say this?

-TNC

[Electrix]

Lauren Shuler Donner says the Storm scene won't be in the movie but may be on the DVD.

http://www.widescreen-vision.de/aid,675743/EXKLUSIVE-_Producer_talks_X-MEN_ORIGINS-_WOLVERINE_-_Storm_not_in_the_movie/

[Angamb]

don't know if I'm happy about it or no....

but I hate that they showed and now it isn't on the final version.

[Deadpool87]

Lauren Shuler Donner says the Storm scene won't be in the movie but may be on the DVD.

http://www.widescreen-vision.de/aid,675743/EXKLUSIVE-_Producer_talks_X-MEN_ORIGINS-_WOLVERINE_-_Storm_not_in_the_movie/

Good, I never really wanted a Storm cameo in this movie anyway. At least it will be on the DVD for those who actually do care...

[Carlo Comicus]

Under the two hour? I bet it's the classic 20th Century Fox runtime: 1h and 45 minutes.

Fox strikes again. Sigh...

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Under the two hour? I bet it's the classic 20th Century Fox runtime: 1h and 45 minutes.

Fox strikes again. Sigh...

1hr 45 mins is FAR too long for a Fox movie, Shuler-Donner confirming the movie as well under 2 hours proves what I have been saying all along, this is will be another 90 minute effort with little to no emotion or character scene's.

Doubt i'll even see it now.

[Symbiotic]

Let's face it guys. Wolverine unfortunately got the Rothman special.

[BMM]

Well, that wasn't the most comfortable sounding interview I've ever heard with Donner.

[sniktsnakt]

This royally stinks.

[The Original Bamfer]

I was actually kind of looking forward to seeing her. :csad:

[Andreth]

Oh no :( I was expecting to see that scene in all its glory considering stryker's team is supposed to be there
damn!

[Rac]

Well, that wasn't the most comfortable sounding interview I've ever heard with Donner.
Haha! Good one.

[narrows101]

I can think of lots of movies that are under 2 hrs. that have plenty of emotional and character scenes. I've read tons of message boards where people complain that a movie is OVER 2 hrs. and a lot of people won't go to a movie that's over 2 hrs. because they say it's too long.

[Figs]

I can think of lots of movies that are under 2 hrs. that have plenty of emotional and character scenes. I've read tons of message boards where people complain that a movie is OVER 2 hrs. and a lot of people won't go to a movie that's over 2 hrs. because they say it's too long.


Those people are people I throw into the group with the name "The ADD Generation".

[Spider-ManHero12]

No Storm? Damn! I was looking foward to that.

[chaseter]

Why show it in a damn trailer? More false advertising to get people in the theatre like a fully outfitted Angel:o

[danoyse]

Why show it in a damn trailer? More false advertising to get people in the theatre like a fully outfitted Angel:o

Well I'm going to assume it hadn't been cut from the film yet before the trailer was released.

But otherwise...how stupid. Everyone noticed that in the trailer and it got a great response from what I've seen. Why cut it?

Donner really does sound uncomfortable in that interview....

[snwboarder88]

My Jaw hit the friken floor when she said that...and the way she said it made it seem like why would you want it to be 2hr or longer.

And then on top of that they cut out the storm scene!!! WTF!!!

If the movie is WELL under 2hrs that screams 1hr 35min to me, which leads me to the question...why cut anything out!

I mean, how can the storm cameo hurt the film at all...it would only help add to the film, and be one kick ass way to tie wolvie to xmen1!!!!

AND WHY PUT HER SCENE IN THE TRAILER IF YOUR JUST GOING TO CUT HER OUT!

THEY ARE JUST PLAYING WITH US! TRYING TO EXCITE US TO SEE THIS MOVIE AND DONNER JUST RUINED THERE DIRTY LITTLE TRICK ON ACCIDENT

Im so frustrated...I hope she was drunk for the interview and was just confusing the run time with X3!!!

[the a1ant]

I am BEYOND pi$$ed!!!!!!!!!

[union_jak]

They're only really cutting it so they have something to put on the DVD.

[FaT_tONle]

http://i36.tinypic.com/1410avc.jpg




Goodbye little girl... you will be missed.... :csad:

[chaseter]

They're only really cutting it so they have something to put on the DVD.
Like the did with X3. The tried to put 3 scenes on the dvd and were going to re-release it a few months later with all the deleted scenes and they ****ed up and some copies had all and some had only a few.

[union_jak]

Like the did with X3. The tried to put 3 scenes on the dvd and were going to re-release it a few months later with all the deleted scenes and they ****ed up and some copies had all and some had only a few.
I know, they do it deliberately. Fox totally misunderstand the point of movies these days, it's all about DVD content over movie quality. They shouldn't be cutting scenes just to boost their extras, thats not the point of deleted scenes.

[snwboarder88]

I am BEYOND pi$$ed!!!!!!!!!


Ant, you better make sure your connections at FOX get wind of our feelings to this awful news we got today with the runtime and the choice of cutting the storm scene out!

If i knew where the FOX studios where I would chain myself to their front door and ***** about this..haha, ahh sometimes I hate being a fanboy

[def28]

Those Additional scenes are sounding more like full reshoots now.

[The Apocalypse]

OMG NO STORM!!!
UNDER TWO HOURS!!!!

I'm not going to see this movie now.

[DJSCARLET]

I was really looking forward to seeing what kind of impact storm had in the movie. obviously not much if they are cutting her out :(
Under two hours?
I dont know whether to be thankful or relunctant.

[Neto Magnus]

who knows maybe the movie will be 1 hour and 59 minutes. :woot:




:csad:

[Andreth]

If she would have said "it's a little less than 2 hours", or at least "less than 2 hours" It would have been alright

but she made it sound like it's barely 130min

Bye Bye Stormy.

[sabetoonth]

ya missed me? damn imROYALYpissed that storms being cut and its a short movie, though taken was good at 1 hr 33mins.

[def28]

Just found this article saying there might still be a chance of Storm and the running time is close to 2 hours according to their source.

Sorry if repost.

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-motion-captured/posts/2009-2-10-storm-may-still-show-up-in-wolverine

If she is cut out Im sure there is decent reason. Their not just doing it to f*** with fans. Her part is more than likely quick and short. These cameos are a little too coincidental anyways.

[chaseter]

They probably saw all of our *****ing and said oh ****, put back in those deleted scenes to increase the run time and put Storm back in. But it is still going to be under 2 hours no matter what which still shows that Fox will never get it right and that writer seems to know that as well.

[sniktsnakt]

That's very promising.

But then why did that interview thing get spoken at all, if it was so off the mark?

[def28]

That's very promising.

But then why did that interview thing get spoken at all, if it was so off the mark?

Dont know. Might have been done awhile ago. But that interview sounded like just a clip of something longer. Is there a longer clip out there any where?

Sounds like the movie is changing alot. This Storm cameo does not make or break the movie for me. Now Deadpool is another story,if they F him up then I will be very pissed off.

[Endeavor]

I am BEYOND pi$$ed!!!!!!!!!

:wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::

I can't believe what I'm reading!!! You're pissed?! I mean I know it's Storm and all but still.. you never get pissed about anything they do...
:p :p

[Endeavor]

Just found this article saying there might still be a chance of Storm and the running time is close to 2 hours according to their source...

See to me all of this sounds very familiar. I'm getting flashes of 'I've heard Cyclops is still alive and will show up at the end of the movie' and many other hopeful expressions. I know the intent was to try to keep our fears at bay and hope that X3 wasn't going to turn out like many of us feared, but that hope didn't fix anything and didn't help at all when I walked into that theater and saw the end result.
I'm going in to this movie with very low expectations, that way if it's a mediocre 1:20 min rushed story I won't be so bummed out about it.

[chaseter]

^You just made me sad again...thanks:(

[The Original Bamfer]

See to me all of this sounds very familiar. I'm getting flashes of 'I've heard Cyclops is still alive and will show up at the end of the movie' and many other hopeful expressions. I know the intent was to try to keep our fears at bay and hope that X3 wasn't going to turn out like many of us feared, but that hope didn't fix anything and didn't help at all when I walked into that theater and saw the end result.
I'm going in to this movie with very low expectations, that way if it's a mediocre 1:20 min rushed story I won't be so bummed out about it.

Yep. :csad:

[Andreth]

*cries*
http://i42.tinypic.com/xlh6id.gif

[Hellion]

With Lil' Storm being cut apparently...do you think this will affect other cameos in the film? I wonder if the same will happen to Young Scott or Emma or other characters?...I hope not, for Emma...

[the a1ant]

If Emma is cut, my heart will explode. Storm and Emma are my two favorite X-Men characters, so that would be tragic, lol.

:wow::wow::wow::

I can't believe what I'm reading!!! You're pissed?! I mean I know it's Storm and all but still.. you never get pissed about anything they do...
:p :p

I do...sometimes :p The cameo might be quick and random, but as a Storm fan I was really looking forward to seeing it.

If the scene was indeed cut from the film, hopefully it was for the right reasons. Maybe some of the "cameos" just seemed out of place? I just hate when something shown in a trailer (that interests me) doesn't make the final cut.

[Devil]

Hitfix said that Storm cameo is not being cut from the movie:
But there is a strong chance the Storm scene has made it back into the film, according to my source, as one of the many last-minute changes that director Gavin Hood has made while working with producers to nail the film down.

SOURCE: http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-motion-captured/posts/2009-2-10-storm-may-still-show-up-in-wolverine

[chaseter]

So like I said...they heard us ***** and moan and they put it back in:o

[Electrix]

So like I said...they heard us ***** and moan and they put it back in:o

I highly doubt a few fans on a message board have enough power to influence what we see on the big screen.

Either Donner was saying it had been removed to surprise fans when they actually see it, or the interview was old and things have changed like hitflix suggest.

[flavio_lebeau]

lol this all reminds me of that epic thread we had like 1 month before X3, when a huge mod from here said "Who do you love? I'm hearing the movie is 2 hours" or something like that and we all got so excited.

[protocida]

It makes sense to put Storm back in to the movie. She's really important to the Plot, indirectly.

[X-Maniac]

Does anyone else see the sudden release of new images and TV spots as hasty 'damage control' after the outcry over Shuler Donner's comments about the running time and the axing of the Storm cameo?

[danoyse]

Does anyone else see the sudden release of new images and TV spots as hasty 'damage control' after the outcry over Shuler Donner's comments about the running time and the axing of the Storm cameo?

Yes, I think that's entirely possible.

[Endeavor]

Does anyone else see the sudden release of new images and TV spots as hasty 'damage control' after the outcry over Shuler Donner's comments about the running time and the axing of the Storm cameo?

Yup. That's exactly what I thought when I saw them pop-up.

[Electrix]

Does anyone else see the sudden release of new images and TV spots as hasty 'damage control' after the outcry over Shuler Donner's comments about the running time and the axing of the Storm cameo?

I disagree.

The TV spots will have no doubt been planned in advance as they have been made to advertise to the public not to please fans complaining about running time on message boards. The only reason Hugh Jackman attached a new image to his email to AICN was due to the negative re-shooting business being reported on nearly every movie site/blog. While a few people moaning on a message board can cause a few negative vibes, it really is insignificant and wouldn't cause Fox to sweat enough to start 'damage control'.

[Hypestyle]

the Ororo footage must be included with an Unrated version

[BMM]

I disagree.

The TV spots will have no doubt been planned in advance as they have been made to advertise to the public not to please fans complaining about running time on message boards. The only reason Hugh Jackman attached a new image to his email to AICN was due to the negative re-shooting business being reported on nearly every movie site/blog. While a few people moaning on a message board can cause a few negative vibes, it really is insignificant and wouldn't cause Fox to sweat enough to start 'damage control'.

I don't think the TV spots are damage control, but I think the four promotional photos could have been.

[the a1ant]

I just wanna see a shot of Storm in the third tv spot! Just to maybe confirm that she's possibly back in? We know they'll show Cyclops and probably Emma too. I really hope she makes it :(

[chaseter]

lol this all reminds me of that epic thread we had like 1 month before X3, when a huge mod from here said "Who do you love? I'm hearing the movie is 2 hours" or something like that and we all got so excited.
HAHA yeah:csad: They even reported it on the front page:csad::csad::csad:

[GuestStar2004]

im guessing storms cameo might go over alot of peoples heads, as i doubt she will talk or even use her powers, it looks to be a brief look cameo

[neemer5]

im guessing storms cameo might go over alot of peoples heads, as i doubt she will talk or even use her powers, it looks to be a brief look cameo

I think if her powers were subtly used, like say she she is distressed and it starts to trickle a little, that would suffice. But yeah, gratuitous showcasing of powers would kill the film.

[Deaths Head II]

I think if her powers were subtly used, like say she she is distressed and it starts to trickle a little, that would suffice. But yeah, gratuitous showcasing of powers would kill the film.

I kind of imagined that lightening they show in that group shot of Weapon X in the trailer was being caused by baby Ororo.

[chaseter]

I highly doubt a few fans on a message board have enough power to influence what we see on the big screen.

Either Donner was saying it had been removed to surprise fans when they actually see it, or the interview was old and things have changed like hitflix suggest.
This wasn't a few fans...this was a lot of fans and it caught the attention of many movies sites as someone posted a link to a story earlier.

[AnorexicBatman]

I heard Patrick Stewart is in this too...
Logan meets Ian McKellen in Germany...
HE then goes to New York and meets Jubilee
Then to Japan and meets Sunfire
Then to Germany and Nightcrawler
Then to hell and Ghost Rider
Manhattan and Spider-man
Military base and Hulk...
Mailbu, California and Iron Man

FINALLY... HE CROSSES DIMESNIONS USING SHADOW KING'S POWERS AND MEETS...

BATMAN!!!

Coming soon: Wolverine & Batman: The movie

EDIT:

I just realized something... The only re4ason why they bothered with cameos of Scott and Ororo besides plot points is that BOTH have been leaders of the X-Men....
So Wolverine meets his superiors in a sense...

[Retroman]

Unless she used her power to save the villagers from Team X there really was no real purpose for the Storm cameo imo.

[Electrix]

Unless she used her power to save the villagers from Team X there really was no real purpose for the Storm cameo imo.

Me thinks they cut it out once they knew Storm would be in First Class. Keep continuity correct.

[Retroman]

^^That too.

[sniktsnakt]

Yeah. I never got why she should be so young.

[Chris Wallace]

I'm still a little disappointed that they cut her out.

[Venomfan]

i'm guessing she was in the scene where they massacre the african village, and as the camera pans out a thunderstorm starts? they probably just cut out a scene of her walking out and cut right to the storm instead

[superDROOL]

Taking a stab in the dark here, but according to the movieverse Team X assembled and ASSUMING first mission was during Vietnam (War still raging) so Storm could be in her late 20's/ early 30's making the TeamX mission in the mid to late 70's. Make sense to anyone?? Or could I be way off base?

[sabetoonth]

the film yakes place moslty in the 70-80's correct? if so, storm should be a small child at the time.

[javphonic]

It would've been interesting if when Team X raided the African village Storm and her parents were trapped by a collapsing building...


her age (had the cameo been included) makes sense, as someone pointed out to me that her cameo takes place 6 years before the ending events of XMO:W, so if she were 8-10, she'd be around 14-16 like Scott in XMO:W

[superDROOL]

It would've been interesting if when Team X raided the African village Storm and her parents were trapped by a collapsing building...


her age (had the cameo been included) makes sense, as someone pointed out to me that her cameo takes place 6 years before the ending events of XMO:W, so if she were 8-10, she'd be around 14-16 like Scott in XMO:W
What grounds is this logic derived from?? It makes no sense to me.:huh:

[The Original Bamfer]

What grounds is this logic derived from?? It makes no sense to me.:huh:

It makes absolute sense to me. :huh:

[Timstuff]

It would've been interesting if when Team X raided the African village Storm and her parents were trapped by a collapsing building...


her age (had the cameo been included) makes sense, as someone pointed out to me that her cameo takes place 6 years before the ending events of XMO:W, so if she were 8-10, she'd be around 14-16 like Scott in XMO:W

The movie can't take place in the 70's, because the first movie takes place in 2009. If the characters are all teenagers in the 1970's, that would mean that in 2009 they would all have to be in their 40's. Chronologically, the XMOW has to take place in the late 80's or early 90's.

[BobJM]

How do we know that the movie takes place in 2009?

[FaT_tONle]

Xavier (X-Men).... "it's been 15 years hasn't it Logan... not knowing who you are or where you came from". So 1979 seems a little iffy to me. I am going late 80's... which is about right in my estimations. Just because they said near future doesn't mean 2009. It could just as easily mean a minute into the future.

[ChaoticPsylocke]

why do you all care about what year certain things happen?

i get the ages lining up, which they do, so why does everyone have to know what year a certain thing happened? ultimately everything is gonna get retconned and switched around, why care? just keep an open mind when it comes to "definite" times. that was the whole point of never clearly stating a date in the first place. they didnt want to date the movies.

the only time they put any dates in was when they absolutely had to like for the ww2 stuff, and logan when he was really young

[javphonic]

The movie can't take place in the 70's, because the first movie takes place in 2009. If the characters are all teenagers in the 1970's, that would mean that in 2009 they would all have to be in their 40's. Chronologically, the XMOW has to take place in the late 80's or early 90's.
??? I'm lost, what are you talking about?