'H2', Rob Zombie's sequel to 'Halloween'

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ I'm starting to think she won't be palying a huge part in the film, honestly.

[Fanticon]

i'm skeptical of the whole idea of him having visions of his mom.

[Fresh Prince]

Remember when Zombie said his Myers is realistic? Nothing realistic about a man coming back after getting show down by shut guns. Also i hope this one good the last one was pretty good. Hope Zombie makes a trilogy.

[Fresh Prince]

i'm skeptical of the whole idea of him having visions of his mom.

Thinks its cool.

[hitmanyr2k]

I'm afraid that would just feel too much like his other films. I want to see Zombie do something different. I wanna see him take a crack at Sci-Fi

I remember Rob was lobbying hard to make a new Crow film in years past. Seeing the kind of characters he writes I'm glad he wasn't given the chance to do anything with the franchise even though every Crow sequel has been absolute garbage.

[Fanticon]

anyone think the aug 28th release date will hurt it? boxoffice wise i mean? October would have...or should have been ideal...its also not a large enough window to release the dvd in time for halloween either....studio isn't really taking advantage of it.

[Cagefighterkip]

FYI everyone, ign.com has a download link to the second "H2" trailer at movies.ign.com :)

[CelticPredator]

Remember when Zombie said his Myers is realistic? Nothing realistic about a man coming back after getting show down by shut guns. Also i hope this one good the last one was pretty good. Hope Zombie makes a trilogy.

What the...?

[Fresh Prince]

What the...?

What the what?

[Fresh Prince]

I remember Rob was lobbying hard to make a new Crow film in years past. Seeing the kind of characters he writes I'm glad he wasn't given the chance to do anything with the franchise even though every Crow sequel has been absolute garbage.

Can you imagine a Rob Zombie Batman film. It be Frank Miller's comic books to life with whores, prostitutes, and female fatales. Also tons of foul language and Batman acting like a demon. Also saying thingsl ike ''im the goddamn Batman!''.

[CelticPredator]

The post didnt make any sense...:hehe:

[Figs]

Remember when Zombie said his Myers is realistic? Nothing realistic about a man coming back after getting show down by shut guns. Also i hope this one good the last one was pretty good. Hope Zombie makes a trilogy.

I'm pretty confident he was saying that the same way the director of the new F13th said it. That they were just getting rid of the ghost/demon possession/cult superstitious garbage.

They're predictable slasher flicks, you always have to somehow bring back the villian that is the main factor of these kinds of movies. So it may look like they died but they always somehow survive.

[DarKush]

anyone think the aug 28th release date will hurt it? boxoffice wise i mean? October would have...or should have been ideal...its also not a large enough window to release the dvd in time for halloween either....studio isn't really taking advantage of it.

The last film was released in late August, and it did very well. Why mess with success?

[The Apatow Crew]

The last film was released in late August, and it did very well. Why mess with success?Yeah, it made over 30 million opening weekend. but also this year they have The Final Destination AKA Final Destination 4 in 3D out the same day.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Indeed, but I'd watch Zombie's Halloween movies over a Final Destination film anyday. I don't hate Final Destination, but I'm not a big fan of it either. They are pretty cool though.

[Fresh Prince]

I'm pretty confident he was saying that the same way the director of the new F13th said it. That they were just getting rid of the ghost/demon possession/cult superstitious garbage.

There predictable slasher flicks, you always have to somehow bring back the villian that is the main factor of these kinds of movies. So it may look like they died but they always somehow survive.

Well agreed. But i know Carpenter wanted to make Halloween sequels without Myers. Halloween 3 was trash. So that was not gonna work for Carpenter after that.

[Sawyer]

Well agreed. But i know Carpenter wanted to make Halloween sequels without Myers. Halloween 3 was trash. So that was not gonna work for Carpenter after that.

Indeed it was. And apparently for Halloween 4, Carpenter originally wanted the ghost of Michael Myers to cause havok all over Haddonfield.

[The Apatow Crew]

Indeed it was. And apparently for Halloween 4, Carpenter originally wanted the ghost of Michael Myers to cause havok all over Haddonfield.Lmao are you serious? Where you hear this?

[Fresh Prince]

Wow that would of been.....Wow! Still better then Jason in space.

[Sawyer]

Lmao are you serious? Where you hear this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_4#Writing

[The Apatow Crew]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_4#Writinghuh, thats weird about the part saying the jaime lee character killed another sister like micheal.

and the ghost thing, i don't know.

[Norman Bates]

Sounds like Carpenter may have been on to something interesting with a cerebral Halloween film.

[Fresh Prince]

Naw he was not movie woulda been stupid.

[SsM]

^^ Indeed, but I'd watch Zombie's Halloween movies over a Final Destination film anyday. I don't hate Final Destination, but I'm not a big fan of it either. They are pretty cool though.


Do you have strong feelings for or against anything?

[Fanticon]

Well agreed. But i know Carpenter wanted to make Halloween sequels without Myers. Halloween 3 was trash. So that was not gonna work for Carpenter after that.

actually carpenter didn't want to make any more sequels...he said in an old interview...i think the first dvd release or the anniversary VHS tape that he wanted to move on right after part 1 and hated the process of writing the sequel but he needed the money...he was hungry to do something else...so without having to direct it he cashed in and then...sold the rights to the use of the property without him still recieving a producers credit...somewhere somebody made a huge mistake with Halloween 3 and no michael meyers...even though that is what he wanted...even after how bad 3 turned out carpenter was content with returning to sequels without Michael...this was the disagreement that lead to him selling the rights to the characters and story. can't hate carpenter for not wanting to do more...its like one of his launchpad movies for his career and as an artist and writer director musician...he saw things going in different directions.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Do you have strong feelings for or against anything? What do you mean?

[Nivek]

Final Destination is really just Snuff. Kinda like the omen or Disaster flicks. It's only horror because they make it out that the Grim Reaper is out to get them like some uber powerful invisible serial killer. But it's just people dying in horrible mechanical unsavage modern ways. It's not my thing.

[The Dark Defender]

Final Destination sort of is (but I definitely wouldn't use the word "snuff"), The Omen has quite a bit more substance though.

[Sawyer]

Final Destination is really just Snuff. Kinda like the omen or Disaster flicks. It's only horror because they make it out that the Grim Reaper is out to get them like some uber powerful invisible serial killer. But it's just people dying in horrible mechanical unsavage modern ways. It's not my thing.

Are you dissing The Omen?! :cmad:

[Episode29]

Final Destination is really just Snuff. Kinda like the omen or Disaster flicks. It's only horror because they make it out that the Grim Reaper is out to get them like some uber powerful invisible serial killer. But it's just people dying in horrible mechanical unsavage modern ways. It's not my thing.

The Omen is a snuff film?

[Nivek]

The Omen 2 had some slasher film/ Argento level grotesque kills. The first one is forgivable, but Omen 2 & 3 fell way short and was just people getting whacked and babies getting stomped.

[Sawyer]

The Omen 2 had some slasher film/ Argento level grotesque kills. The first one is forgivable, but Omen 2 & 3 fell way short and was just people getting whacked and babies getting stomped.

No one cares about the 2nd and 3rd. It's the first that people actually care about.

[Jackasscoley15]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_4#Writing

Wow, that sounded pretty cool, or at least better than what we got. And lol at Akkad calling it "too cerebral", I'm surprised he knew what the word meant, judging by what he did with the franchise.

[Sawyer]

Wow, that sounded pretty cool, or at least better than what we got. And lol at Akkad calling it "too cerebral", I'm surprised he knew what the word meant, judging by what he did with the franchise.

I actually love the 4th one. Now the 5th? That was terrible.

[SsM]

I actually love the 4th one. Now the 5th? That was terrible.


I like all of them

[Sawyer]

I like all of them

Eeh... 5 had its moments, but overall it could've been much better. 6 was just a bunch of weird-o ****. H20 was awesome, but Ressurection was lame.

[SsM]

I liked the Resurrection intro.

[Sawyer]

I liked the Resurrection intro.

Yeah, but the rest was pointless. Michael, why the **** do you care if they're shooting a reality show in your old house? Dont you have better people to kill? Like Laurie's son?!

[Marx]

Yeah, but the rest was pointless. Michael, why the **** do you care if they're shooting a reality show in your old house? Dont you have better people to kill? Like Laurie's son?!

Exactly.

[Majik1387]

Because he hates "reality" tv, as everyone else should. :o

I love movies 1,2,4,5,6, and H20.:up:

[Sawyer]

Because he hates "reality" tv, as everyone else should. :o

I love movies 1,2,4,5,6, and H20.:up:

Then he should've killed Mark Burnett! :cmad:

[Nivek]

No one cares about the 2nd and 3rd. It's the first that people actually care about.

Tell that to a Star wars or Batman fan. Not all sequels are garbage.

But Halloween, for a slasher Franchise, had some pretty lackluster, uninspired, and honestly crappy sequels. I hated H20 (lame JLC vehicle) and Resurrection (pointless and insulting), and part 6 was a huge incoherent mess considering it was Donald Pleasence last Halloween film. Part 4 and 5 were pretty "meh" and stupid and just a cash grab, but had their moments. 2 should have been the end, but people wanted more out of the character, and some fans wanted him to be a supernatural boogieman equal to Freddy and Jason.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I liked the Resurrection intro. Me, too, but the rest was all bulls***. As I said in another thread, Halloween 5 is 10x better. I really do find Halloween 5 to be underrated, though, it's not fantastic.

[Sawyer]

Tell that to a Star wars or Batman fan. Not all sequels are garbage.

Kinda just talking about The Omen...

[Nivek]

Kinda just talking about The Omen...


i'm not the best person to give an opinion about The Omen, Damian was my pick-on name in my family because I looked like that damn kid (in the original). But my opinion still stands on the kill's in it.

[The Joker]

I love movies 1,2,4,5,6, and H20.:up:

I really disliked parts 5 and 6 with all the Thorn bull crap. Parts 1, 2, 4, and H20 are the best ones, IMO.

[The Apatow Crew]

I guess i'm only the only oine who likes all the halloween films. Except part 3 cause thats not really a halloween movie. They should have just called it Season of the witch like they were gonna.

I own all the Halloween films except part 6 cause thats hard to find. and no one really likes or wants part 3.

[Majik1387]

I kind of liked the Thorn angle.

[The Apatow Crew]

I'll admit part 6 is a guilty pleasure of mine, so is Resurrection.

[Sawyer]

I guess i'm only the only oine who likes all the halloween films. Except part 3 cause thats not really a halloween movie. They should have just called it Season of the witch like they were gonna.

I own all the Halloween films except part 6 cause thats hard to find. and no one really likes or wants part 3.

Eh... I like certain aspects of all the films (except for 3). But overall, I find it very easy to ignore 6 and Ressurection.

[The Apatow Crew]

I'd like to own part 6 even for Paul Rudd's appearance in it.:yay:

[Dark Victory]

1 is, and alwas will be a classic, 2 was good, 3 was awful, 4 was decent, 5 was eh, 6 was bad, H20 was eh, and Resurrection was awful. I didn't like Rob's remake either, but I'm still going to give this a chance since Rob is now going to do his own thing. I somewhat like Rob showing Michael as a child, but I don't want to be sympathetic towards Michael. I prefer Carpenter's origin any day of the week...or however the saying goes.

[Sawyer]

1 is, and alwas will be a classic, 2 was good, 3 was awful, 4 was decent, 5 was eh, 6 was bad, H20 was eh, and Resurrection was awful. I didn't like Rob's remake either, but I'm still going to give this a chance since Rob is now going to do his own thing. I somewhat like Rob showing Michael as a child, but I don't want to be sympathetic towards Michael. I prefer Carpenter's origin any day of the week...or however the saying goes.

Yeah, I've always found the origin of him essentially being a pretty normal kid until one day that he snaps and kills his older sister to be far scarier than him being some long-haired, small animal-torturing, picked on, redneck kid.

[Nivek]

I like the new "bird" picture. Can't post it here, but it's T-shirt worthy.

[The Apatow Crew]

I watched the first one again tonight.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Nice!

There's a review that's out of the film that people got to see in a preview screening, and sounds to me like they hated it.

[spiderfan08]

i didnt mind rob's halloween. i actually loved seeing more of him as a child. i never really felt sympathetic towards michael at all during the film. for me..it just really made the point that he was a messed up human being even more. the only thing in robs first halloween film that was bad for me was the excessive language at the beginning and some of the violence could have been toned down a bit. it could have had a little more creepiness thrown in too. but still a great a horror film in my eyes.

but..i also liked to old origin. you didnt really know much about him..just that he snapped one night.

im looking forward to H2. not expecting it to be amazing..but from a couple of trailers i have seen..it looks good.

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

^^ Nice!

There's a review that's out of the film that people got to see in a preview screening, and sounds to me like they hated it.
Do you have a link?

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Yep, but I hope there's no swears in the link I post. Also, it sounds liek they hated it, and they found the kills to be extremley over the top. They sound over the top, but that's not suprising. They mention eating a dog. Now, you guys do remember that in the original halloween (1978), they did find a dog in Michaels home. Apparently, he was hungry.

ANyway. If there's swears, please tell so that I can erase it.

Let me start off by saying that even though I'm a horror movie fanatic its been maybe 15 years since I've seen the original HALLOWEEN 2. I remembered not liking it very much and even though I still consider the first in the series the best horror film ever made, nothing ever really drew me back to part two. So besides a few fuzzy memories of it, I went into the film last night being able to take a real unbiased look at a remake. Ill run it down and go through the film for anyone interested (All of it being spoilers, so if you don't want to know what happens in the movie stop reading HERE). Remember that I'm sure some of this will change by the time it hits theaters later this summer, especially after the focus group met and gave opinions after the film. Ill mention what we/they thought during the review, as well for those interested.

The movie opens with Laurie, bloody, walking down the street. Sheriff Brackett finds her and takes her to the hospital (I remember the hospital scene taking place towards the end of the original, correct me if I'm wrong but in any case its the beginning here.) The next 15 minutes, besides being WAY too loud, to the actual point where I had a bit of a headache afterwards are really fantastic and I had hoped would set the film up very nicely.

Zombie chooses to show us most of the gore in this one scene and for the rest of the film shows a lot of restraint in what he shows, letting our minds do most of the work which I really appreciated. Nowadays a lot of directors think blood & guts = scares which just isn't true.

We spend the next 20 minutes or so getting to know this new grunge Laurie (who now lives with her friend Annie and the Sheriff) and her friends who work at a book/record/indie type store and we learn they looove to party. The characters are really your standard issue, cookie cutter horror movie characters and you can pretty much pinpoint who will die and in what order. After this we see Loomis who has become a real media whore and a just an all around ****after the release of his book about Michael, which is doing a media tour for and just happens to be somewhere near Haddonfield, IL where they film a major late night talk show. Lucky him. Hes no longer a sympathetic character he is now just a famous diva who only cares about himself and his new career and let me say the focus group and the end was more than vocal about how much they hated this.

Interspersed through all of this are visions Michael has with his mother (the gorgeous Sherri Moon Zombie), a white horse and the younger version of himself guiding him to kill more so they can all finally be together. This might work in a different film but the problem here is that Laurie is having visions of them, too. The same visions. This is never explained or touched upon and even when she learns she's Michael's sister, if this was supposed to mean they were all connected in some way, it still doesn't make any sense. As much as I love her, Michael s mother has no business being in this movie at all. About 90% of the people in the focus group said they didn't like her scenes at all which weren?t many to begin with and I'm sure will now be sliced down pretty heavily.


As you guess right after we meet the characters, Michael starts killing again. Obviously he needs to get through people to get where hes going, but too many scenes were set up just to kill someone with no further advancement of a plot you could tell they desperately were trying to do something with - including scenes in a strip club stomping a mans face until its just meat, taking a naked stripper by the hair and smashing her into a mirror until she goes bye-bye, not to mention Michael killing a dog, gutting it and eating its insides. Let me just say that when I got the chance last night I let them know just how unnecessary that was and every single person there said that needed to be cut out immediately. I'm hoping it is because its something that I really should have walked on the film because of.

Soon after, Laurie discovers shes Michael s sister and all hell breaks loose. She does a LOT of screaming in this movie, almost to the laughable point which she does most of in the next few scenes. She tells her friends she needs to go out and PAR-TAY which we all know means Dead Friends so when Harley (the **** of the group) goes to a random man?s van, you don't have to be a genius to know what will happen. That scene is so predictable and so stupid pretty much everyone agreed afterwards it was just too much. When you can count down to when the attack will happen you know your movie has become too formulaic.

After this, Michael decides to visit the house of our dear friend Annie who until this point has had a decent amount of screen time cooped up in her house. When she opens that medicine cabinet you don?t have to be a rocket scientist to know what shell see when she closes it! Cut to a few minutes later, Laurie and her only living friend now, Maya (the beautiful Brea Grant who plays Daphne on HEROES) both completely drunk go back to Annie's house to crash but theres a big mess there so being as bright as they are they know something is wrong. Maya is the first to get hers, when she goes downstairs alone to call 911. Luckily Laurie escapes the house and runs into the woods (because when you're being chased by a killer you obviously run into the woods) where dagnabit, she gets caught by Michael and taken to an old shack. Now, she must have been in there for quite a while because we cut to Loomis in a swanky hotel (obviously in town) after he just finished his talk show appearance opposite Weird Al, where he sees the breaking news that Michael Myers (not the same Michael Myers from the Austin Powers films as Weird Al points out) is at it again. Loomis rushes to the site where poor Laurie is screaming again being held by her brother while we see Mommy and Little Michael watching her. Loomis informs her that nobody is holding her which we now see is true. Michael is on the other side of the barn and she?s just imagining she?s being held. The word ?HUH??? came to mind last night. Michael slices up ol? Loomis but I couldn't pay much attention to that because I was still trying to figure out how and WHY Michael and Laurie had been having the same visions of young Michael and the Mother the entire movie.

Anywho, long story short Laurie stabs Michael, and walks out of the barn wearing her Halloween costume (she was dressed as Magenta from ROCKY HORROR) and Michael s mask which elicited a LOT of laughter, seeing this little girl with this enormous mask on. We than cut to Laurie in a white room. Is she in a mental institution? I didn't think so, but others did. We see her look up and see Mrs. Myers walking towards her with the same white horse we've seen her with the whole movie. Laurie gives an evil little smile and the film ends.

So a good part of the discussion after was spent on that last scene. To me and a lot of other people it made no sense and was just, well, stupid. The fact that you think Laurie has turned bad for no reason at all didn't sit well with people because A) Its not who the character is and B) there is no reason for it. Shes had nothing happen to her to turn HER into a killer now.

A lot was also said afterward about the fact that we see a lot of Michaels face in this film. He has a very long beard and looks a lot like Zombie, himself which I wasn't sure if that was on purpose or not. But to me and most others there this isn't a good thing. Humanizing Michael doesn't make him more scary, it makes him completely unbelievable. If we see him as just a regular guy, how are we to believe? he can survive having his body bashed with baseball bats, bullets, etc and just get right back up again and keep killing. In the films current state, he is more like Jason, not Michael.

I'm sorry if this was a bit all over the place. I'm at work and doing a million things at the same time as trying to do this, but that's pretty much the gist of the film as it is now. I'll say again for as much as I detested the first one, this one was much much better. I'll even go to see it again to see what changes they've hopefully made to it



http://broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.cfm?thread=1001106&boardname=off&dt=1&boardid=2

[The Apatow Crew]

Do you have a link?Yeah, I was gonan say the samething.

[The Apatow Crew]

I've never really even heard of the site. Once I hear from my known sources i'll take it serious.

[Sawyer]

^^ Nice!

There's a review that's out of the film that people got to see in a preview screening, and sounds to me like they hated it.

Ugh. I cant trust fan reviews these days...

[Nivek]

Wow.

I'm not even shocked, the dog eating thing went right over his head. If it's even real, Rob just said he edited a rough cut, I didn't think they screened it yet.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I've never really even heard of the site. Once I hear from my known sources i'll take it serious. I have a feeling it's real. I mean, if you scroll down, he's answering questions.

[The Apatow Crew]

Ugh. I cant trust fan reviews these days...Yeah, thats why when i hear something from shock or bloody, i'll take it more seriously.

You could never trust fan reviews to start with.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Wow.

I'm not even shocked, the dog eating thing went right over his head. If it's even real, Rob just said he edited a rough cut, I didn't think they screened it yet. Well, honestly, if that is in the film, it actually makes sense if you think about it. I mean, he's hungry, so what's he going to do? Go to McDonalds, lol?

[The Apatow Crew]

I have a feeling it's real. I mean, if you scroll down, he's answering questions.I'm sure it is. But i mean when i hear from the horror community websites more then some random site.

[SsM]

I don't trust anyone's opinion. I like what I like and don't like what I don't like.


One man's trash is another man's treasure!

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'm sure it is. But i mean when i hear from the horror community websites more then some random site. I agree. Also, there is another shorter review. ALOT shorter actually.



It starts with a flash back of Michael's Mother visiting young MM at the hospital. She gives him a toy horse which MM says reminds him of a dream he had that she rode up on a white horse to take him away. She says she wish she could take him away from here. ......than it cuts to the title 15 years later Halloween night and you see Laurie walking the streets with a gun. Very cool and spooky. Sheriff Barrack finds her (u see this in preview) and takes her to the hospital. It goes back to the crime scene and you see them carry out bodies - they load MM into a van and take him away. Cuts back to the hospital and the Doctors are working on Laurie - very gross and graphic here!!!!! Than back to the van which crashes into a cow. (In preview as well). MM comes to - gets free and kills one of the drivers cuts his head off. He than sees his mother's ghost with the white horse far down the road and he walks off. Than u are back at the Hospital and Laurie wakes up and leaves her room - finds Annie all cut up and swen together. She cries and begs her to stay alive and don't leave her. A nurse finds laurie and starts to take her back to her room - a 911 comes in and the nurse has to leave Laurie. Nurse runs off. Hospital seens very empty Laurie tries to find another nurse to get pain meds that's when the nurse comes back in face cut up - screams and falls to the floor. Laurie knows MM is there and runs. MM steps into the frame stabs the nurse A LOT of times and heads after Laurie. Chases her into the stare well into a basement and then outside. This is the only time the movie is like the original Halloween 2. He chances her to a little outpost guard station. U see all this in preview. Her kills the guard "Buddy" and starts to trash the station where Laurie is hinding under a desk. He gets in lefts the axe to kill her and Laurie wakes up.........it jumps to 2 years later and four days before Halloween.


I will not post the link due to the use of the F word, etc, but some guys' friend wrote that review, btw. Also, like I said, PLEASE tell me if there's swears.

[Bond]

Sounds unsurprisingly terrible.

[Swordmaster]

The dog scene being shown, if true, is unnecessary. Imply it all you want, but seeing the gutting just seems so....brutal and cruel. Even for this. And this is coming from a fan of the first one.

[Sawyer]

I don't trust anyone's opinion. I like what I like and don't like what I don't like.


One man's trash is another man's treasure!

Absolutely. People have been ****ting on Transformers 2 right and left... I rather liked it.

[SsM]

Absolutely. People have been ****ting on Transformers 2 right and left... I rather liked it.

I thought that movie was Awful! the action was Awesome though,


but we're still cool! :P

[The Apatow Crew]

Absolutely. People have been ****ting on Transformers 2 right and left... I rather liked it.Totally I liked it too.

I don't ever let one persons or a whole group of people sway my decision on something.

[spiderfan08]

^^ Yep, but I hope there's no swears in the link I post. Also, it sounds liek they hated it, and they found the kills to be extremley over the top. They sound over the top, but that's not suprising. They mention eating a dog. Now, you guys do remember that in the original halloween (1978), they did find a dog in Michaels home. Apparently, he was hungry.

ANyway. If there's swears, please tell so that I can erase it.

Let me start off by saying that even though I'm a horror movie fanatic its been maybe 15 years since I've seen the original HALLOWEEN 2. I remembered not liking it very much and even though I still consider the first in the series the best horror film ever made, nothing ever really drew me back to part two. So besides a few fuzzy memories of it, I went into the film last night being able to take a real unbiased look at a remake. Ill run it down and go through the film for anyone interested (All of it being spoilers, so if you don't want to know what happens in the movie stop reading HERE). Remember that I'm sure some of this will change by the time it hits theaters later this summer, especially after the focus group met and gave opinions after the film. Ill mention what we/they thought during the review, as well for those interested.

The movie opens with Laurie, bloody, walking down the street. Sheriff Brackett finds her and takes her to the hospital (I remember the hospital scene taking place towards the end of the original, correct me if I'm wrong but in any case its the beginning here.) The next 15 minutes, besides being WAY too loud, to the actual point where I had a bit of a headache afterwards are really fantastic and I had hoped would set the film up very nicely.

Zombie chooses to show us most of the gore in this one scene and for the rest of the film shows a lot of restraint in what he shows, letting our minds do most of the work which I really appreciated. Nowadays a lot of directors think blood & guts = scares which just isn't true.

We spend the next 20 minutes or so getting to know this new grunge Laurie (who now lives with her friend Annie and the Sheriff) and her friends who work at a book/record/indie type store and we learn they looove to party. The characters are really your standard issue, cookie cutter horror movie characters and you can pretty much pinpoint who will die and in what order. After this we see Loomis who has become a real media whore and a just an all around ****after the release of his book about Michael, which is doing a media tour for and just happens to be somewhere near Haddonfield, IL where they film a major late night talk show. Lucky him. Hes no longer a sympathetic character he is now just a famous diva who only cares about himself and his new career and let me say the focus group and the end was more than vocal about how much they hated this.

Interspersed through all of this are visions Michael has with his mother (the gorgeous Sherri Moon Zombie), a white horse and the younger version of himself guiding him to kill more so they can all finally be together. This might work in a different film but the problem here is that Laurie is having visions of them, too. The same visions. This is never explained or touched upon and even when she learns she's Michael's sister, if this was supposed to mean they were all connected in some way, it still doesn't make any sense. As much as I love her, Michael s mother has no business being in this movie at all. About 90% of the people in the focus group said they didn't like her scenes at all which weren?t many to begin with and I'm sure will now be sliced down pretty heavily.


As you guess right after we meet the characters, Michael starts killing again. Obviously he needs to get through people to get where hes going, but too many scenes were set up just to kill someone with no further advancement of a plot you could tell they desperately were trying to do something with - including scenes in a strip club stomping a mans face until its just meat, taking a naked stripper by the hair and smashing her into a mirror until she goes bye-bye, not to mention Michael killing a dog, gutting it and eating its insides. Let me just say that when I got the chance last night I let them know just how unnecessary that was and every single person there said that needed to be cut out immediately. I'm hoping it is because its something that I really should have walked on the film because of.

Soon after, Laurie discovers shes Michael s sister and all hell breaks loose. She does a LOT of screaming in this movie, almost to the laughable point which she does most of in the next few scenes. She tells her friends she needs to go out and PAR-TAY which we all know means Dead Friends so when Harley (the **** of the group) goes to a random man?s van, you don't have to be a genius to know what will happen. That scene is so predictable and so stupid pretty much everyone agreed afterwards it was just too much. When you can count down to when the attack will happen you know your movie has become too formulaic.

After this, Michael decides to visit the house of our dear friend Annie who until this point has had a decent amount of screen time cooped up in her house. When she opens that medicine cabinet you don?t have to be a rocket scientist to know what shell see when she closes it! Cut to a few minutes later, Laurie and her only living friend now, Maya (the beautiful Brea Grant who plays Daphne on HEROES) both completely drunk go back to Annie's house to crash but theres a big mess there so being as bright as they are they know something is wrong. Maya is the first to get hers, when she goes downstairs alone to call 911. Luckily Laurie escapes the house and runs into the woods (because when you're being chased by a killer you obviously run into the woods) where dagnabit, she gets caught by Michael and taken to an old shack. Now, she must have been in there for quite a while because we cut to Loomis in a swanky hotel (obviously in town) after he just finished his talk show appearance opposite Weird Al, where he sees the breaking news that Michael Myers (not the same Michael Myers from the Austin Powers films as Weird Al points out) is at it again. Loomis rushes to the site where poor Laurie is screaming again being held by her brother while we see Mommy and Little Michael watching her. Loomis informs her that nobody is holding her which we now see is true. Michael is on the other side of the barn and she?s just imagining she?s being held. The word ?HUH??? came to mind last night. Michael slices up ol? Loomis but I couldn't pay much attention to that because I was still trying to figure out how and WHY Michael and Laurie had been having the same visions of young Michael and the Mother the entire movie.

Anywho, long story short Laurie stabs Michael, and walks out of the barn wearing her Halloween costume (she was dressed as Magenta from ROCKY HORROR) and Michael s mask which elicited a LOT of laughter, seeing this little girl with this enormous mask on. We than cut to Laurie in a white room. Is she in a mental institution? I didn't think so, but others did. We see her look up and see Mrs. Myers walking towards her with the same white horse we've seen her with the whole movie. Laurie gives an evil little smile and the film ends.

So a good part of the discussion after was spent on that last scene. To me and a lot of other people it made no sense and was just, well, stupid. The fact that you think Laurie has turned bad for no reason at all didn't sit well with people because A) Its not who the character is and B) there is no reason for it. Shes had nothing happen to her to turn HER into a killer now.

A lot was also said afterward about the fact that we see a lot of Michaels face in this film. He has a very long beard and looks a lot like Zombie, himself which I wasn't sure if that was on purpose or not. But to me and most others there this isn't a good thing. Humanizing Michael doesn't make him more scary, it makes him completely unbelievable. If we see him as just a regular guy, how are we to believe? he can survive having his body bashed with baseball bats, bullets, etc and just get right back up again and keep killing. In the films current state, he is more like Jason, not Michael.

I'm sorry if this was a bit all over the place. I'm at work and doing a million things at the same time as trying to do this, but that's pretty much the gist of the film as it is now. I'll say again for as much as I detested the first one, this one was much much better. I'll even go to see it again to see what changes they've hopefully made to it



http://broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.cfm?thread=1001106&boardname=off&dt=1&boardid=2

this saddens me greatly. :csad: but i will wait to see it to judge.

The dog scene being shown, if true, is unnecessary. Imply it all you want, but seeing the gutting just seems so....brutal and cruel. Even for this. And this is coming from a fan of the first one.

im with you on that one. i always thought the violence and gore could have been toned down in the first one and it still would have been good..or even better. still loved it. but man..if they show this..that is terrible.

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

I'm gonna with hold judgment till I see it myself, but that sounds terrible. And I liked the first one.

[The Apatow Crew]

I agree. Also, there is another shorter review. ALOT shorter actually.



It starts with a flash back of Michael's Mother visiting young MM at the hospital. She gives him a toy horse which MM says reminds him of a dream he had that she rode up on a white horse to take him away. She says she wish she could take him away from here. ......than it cuts to the title 15 years later Halloween night and you see Laurie walking the streets with a gun. Very cool and spooky. Sheriff Barrack finds her (u see this in preview) and takes her to the hospital. It goes back to the crime scene and you see them carry out bodies - they load MM into a van and take him away. Cuts back to the hospital and the Doctors are working on Laurie - very gross and graphic here!!!!! Than back to the van which crashes into a cow. (In preview as well). MM comes to - gets free and kills one of the drivers cuts his head off. He than sees his mother's ghost with the white horse far down the road and he walks off. Than u are back at the Hospital and Laurie wakes up and leaves her room - finds Annie all cut up and swen together. She cries and begs her to stay alive and don't leave her. A nurse finds laurie and starts to take her back to her room - a 911 comes in and the nurse has to leave Laurie. Nurse runs off. Hospital seens very empty Laurie tries to find another nurse to get pain meds that's when the nurse comes back in face cut up - screams and falls to the floor. Laurie knows MM is there and runs. MM steps into the frame stabs the nurse A LOT of times and heads after Laurie. Chases her into the stare well into a basement and then outside. This is the only time the movie is like the original Halloween 2. He chances her to a little outpost guard station. U see all this in preview. Her kills the guard "Buddy" and starts to trash the station where Laurie is hinding under a desk. He gets in lefts the axe to kill her and Laurie wakes up.........it jumps to 2 years later and four days before Halloween.


I will not post the link due to the use of the F word, etc, but some guys' friend wrote that review, btw. Also, like I said, PLEASE tell me if there's swears.
You know when someone reviews something and Says the F word all the time means they have nothing really to say. But just wants to force their opinion on someone and they feel using the F word will put more imply on it.

[Spider-ManHero12]

The dog scene being shown, if true, is unnecessary. Imply it all you want, but seeing the gutting just seems so....brutal and cruel. Even for this. And this is coming from a fan of the first one. If i had ot choose, I'd erase the actual killing of the dog, I guess. Seeing animals get killed is pretty sad, actually. Though, that scene in watchmen was necessary. it was in the comic for gods sake.

Anyway, the "eating" part, I guess could work because he does need food.

[Spider-ManHero12]

You know when someone reviews something and Says the F word all the time means they have nothing really to say. But just wants to force their opinion on someone and they feel using the F word will put more imply on it. Yeah, there's no doubt about that.

[Swordmaster]

If i had ot choose, I'd erase the actual killing of the dog, I guess. Seeing animals get killed is pretty sad, actually. Though, that scene in watchmen was necessary. it was in the comic for gods sake.

Anyway, the "eating" part, I guess could work because he does need food.

Well, in Watchmen they did a good job in making the dogs deserve to be killed, so that didn't bug me much. But if Michael randomly runs into a dog, one that's done nothing except cross his path, that's a problem.

I love dogs :csad:

[spiderfan08]

in the original..it was done tastefully. you didnt even see much..you just knew that michael killed the dog. but if zombie is showing a dog getting killed..you know its gonna be brutal. PETA will have a **** fit :hehe:

[Spider-ManHero12]

Well, in Watchmen they did a good job in making the dogs deserve to be killed, so that didn't bug me much. But if Michael randomly runs into a dog, one that's done nothing except cross his path, that's a problem.

I love dogs :csad: I have to agree, which is why i hope he cuts the actual killing, but we do see him eating it. I guess see him eating it. Well, they could do what they did with the Original Halloween and make it so that we see a dead dog there. No killing shown, no eating shown. Just the aftermath of what Michael did to it.

[SsM]

The killing of a dog is never tasteful.

[spiderfan08]

The killing of a dog is never tasteful.

this my friend is true. i wasnt saying it is ever right to throw in a killing of any animal in a film. i love animals..hate seeing them abused and stuff like that in films and in real life. i was just simply saying..it wasnt gory..in your face and over the top. all that was shown was the dog was dead.

[SsM]

this my friend is true. i wasnt saying it is ever right to throw in a killing of any animal in a film. i love animals..hate seeing them abused and stuff like that in films and in real life. i was just simply saying..it wasnt gory..in your face and over the top. all that was shown was the dog was dead.


I didn't think the implying of the murdering the dog was necessary in either of the H movies he did it in.

[Bond]

I love every minute of American Psycho, but that part where he kills the dog in the alleyway always makes me frown. :csad:

[spiderfan08]

I didn't think the implying of the murdering the dog was necessary in either of the H movies he did it in.

correct again. it wasnt needed. i guess i am thinking because it IS in the film..at least it wasnt over the top. and with this new one just being screened..i hope..seriously hope they take that scene out. it seems so un-necessary.

[Cagefighterkip]

everything in the review is so weird and bizzare even though its being talked about in a negative fashion, i gotta admit im psyched for it

[SsM]

I love every minute of American Psycho, but that part where he kills the dog in the alleyway always makes me frown. :csad:


I hated that.\

correct again. it wasnt needed. i guess i am thinking because it IS in the film..at least it wasnt over the top. and with this new one just being screened..i hope..seriously hope they take that scene out. it seems so un-necessary.


I understand what you are saying, they were going to put it in anyway so AT LEAST the way they did it didn't make you lose your lunch.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I love every minute of American Psycho, but that part where he kills the dog in the alleyway always makes me frown. :csad: Have to agree there. As for loving it, it's good, but not my favorite.

[Booznian]

Well I have no expectations for this film. When i go in to see this , I'm going in assuming it's going to be utter crap.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Don't judge it by a review of a previeew screening. which is likely to be edited, my friend. Just trust me on this.

[B]

This series is never going to be as iconic as the 1st batch of films, Zombie did a good job reinventing it though for the 21st century I felt without really disgracing the original series.

Looking forward to this one as I enjoyed the 1st & loved the original series, in fact.. Halloween 1 & 2 probably have a good arguement to be my in my top 10 films of all time..

[The Apatow Crew]

I'm sure it wasn't even a finished cut. Not with mostr rough cuts of a film.

Like sound effects needed to be added in or music. Or something else of that kind.

[spiderfan08]

I understand what you are saying, they were going to put it in anyway so AT LEAST the way they did it didn't make you lose your lunch.

exactly! glad we could come to an agreement :yay:


and even though these reviews sadden me..i will still go see it. like spider-manhero12 says..cant judge it just yet.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'm sure it wasn't even a finished cut. Not with mostr rough cuts of a film.

Like sound effects needed to be added in or music. Or something else of that kind. Exactly, my friend. I'm also still curious if the Halloween theme or any Halloween theme will appear in the film.

[Booznian]

Of course the theme is going to be in film. They're going to incorporate it somehow.

[spiderfan08]

Exactly, my friend. I'm also still curious if the Halloween theme or any Halloween theme will appear in the film.

wasnt it in the trailer? not the whole thing..but some of it?

[SsM]

If there's no theme.. This will be HINO.

[Marx]

^^ Yep, but I hope there's no swears in the link I post. Also, it sounds liek they hated it, and they found the kills to be extremley over the top. They sound over the top, but that's not suprising. They mention eating a dog. Now, you guys do remember that in the original halloween (1978), they did find a dog in Michaels home. Apparently, he was hungry.

ANyway. If there's swears, please tell so that I can erase it.

Let me start off by saying that even though I'm a horror movie fanatic its been maybe 15 years since I've seen the original HALLOWEEN 2. I remembered not liking it very much and even though I still consider the first in the series the best horror film ever made, nothing ever really drew me back to part two. So besides a few fuzzy memories of it, I went into the film last night being able to take a real unbiased look at a remake. Ill run it down and go through the film for anyone interested (All of it being spoilers, so if you don't want to know what happens in the movie stop reading HERE). Remember that I'm sure some of this will change by the time it hits theaters later this summer, especially after the focus group met and gave opinions after the film. Ill mention what we/they thought during the review, as well for those interested.

The movie opens with Laurie, bloody, walking down the street. Sheriff Brackett finds her and takes her to the hospital (I remember the hospital scene taking place towards the end of the original, correct me if I'm wrong but in any case its the beginning here.) The next 15 minutes, besides being WAY too loud, to the actual point where I had a bit of a headache afterwards are really fantastic and I had hoped would set the film up very nicely.

Zombie chooses to show us most of the gore in this one scene and for the rest of the film shows a lot of restraint in what he shows, letting our minds do most of the work which I really appreciated. Nowadays a lot of directors think blood & guts = scares which just isn't true.

We spend the next 20 minutes or so getting to know this new grunge Laurie (who now lives with her friend Annie and the Sheriff) and her friends who work at a book/record/indie type store and we learn they looove to party. The characters are really your standard issue, cookie cutter horror movie characters and you can pretty much pinpoint who will die and in what order. After this we see Loomis who has become a real media whore and a just an all around ****after the release of his book about Michael, which is doing a media tour for and just happens to be somewhere near Haddonfield, IL where they film a major late night talk show. Lucky him. Hes no longer a sympathetic character he is now just a famous diva who only cares about himself and his new career and let me say the focus group and the end was more than vocal about how much they hated this.

Interspersed through all of this are visions Michael has with his mother (the gorgeous Sherri Moon Zombie), a white horse and the younger version of himself guiding him to kill more so they can all finally be together. This might work in a different film but the problem here is that Laurie is having visions of them, too. The same visions. This is never explained or touched upon and even when she learns she's Michael's sister, if this was supposed to mean they were all connected in some way, it still doesn't make any sense. As much as I love her, Michael s mother has no business being in this movie at all. About 90% of the people in the focus group said they didn't like her scenes at all which weren?t many to begin with and I'm sure will now be sliced down pretty heavily.


As you guess right after we meet the characters, Michael starts killing again. Obviously he needs to get through people to get where hes going, but too many scenes were set up just to kill someone with no further advancement of a plot you could tell they desperately were trying to do something with - including scenes in a strip club stomping a mans face until its just meat, taking a naked stripper by the hair and smashing her into a mirror until she goes bye-bye, not to mention Michael killing a dog, gutting it and eating its insides. Let me just say that when I got the chance last night I let them know just how unnecessary that was and every single person there said that needed to be cut out immediately. I'm hoping it is because its something that I really should have walked on the film because of.

Soon after, Laurie discovers shes Michael s sister and all hell breaks loose. She does a LOT of screaming in this movie, almost to the laughable point which she does most of in the next few scenes. She tells her friends she needs to go out and PAR-TAY which we all know means Dead Friends so when Harley (the **** of the group) goes to a random man?s van, you don't have to be a genius to know what will happen. That scene is so predictable and so stupid pretty much everyone agreed afterwards it was just too much. When you can count down to when the attack will happen you know your movie has become too formulaic.

After this, Michael decides to visit the house of our dear friend Annie who until this point has had a decent amount of screen time cooped up in her house. When she opens that medicine cabinet you don?t have to be a rocket scientist to know what shell see when she closes it! Cut to a few minutes later, Laurie and her only living friend now, Maya (the beautiful Brea Grant who plays Daphne on HEROES) both completely drunk go back to Annie's house to crash but theres a big mess there so being as bright as they are they know something is wrong. Maya is the first to get hers, when she goes downstairs alone to call 911. Luckily Laurie escapes the house and runs into the woods (because when you're being chased by a killer you obviously run into the woods) where dagnabit, she gets caught by Michael and taken to an old shack. Now, she must have been in there for quite a while because we cut to Loomis in a swanky hotel (obviously in town) after he just finished his talk show appearance opposite Weird Al, where he sees the breaking news that Michael Myers (not the same Michael Myers from the Austin Powers films as Weird Al points out) is at it again. Loomis rushes to the site where poor Laurie is screaming again being held by her brother while we see Mommy and Little Michael watching her. Loomis informs her that nobody is holding her which we now see is true. Michael is on the other side of the barn and she?s just imagining she?s being held. The word ?HUH??? came to mind last night. Michael slices up ol? Loomis but I couldn't pay much attention to that because I was still trying to figure out how and WHY Michael and Laurie had been having the same visions of young Michael and the Mother the entire movie.

Anywho, long story short Laurie stabs Michael, and walks out of the barn wearing her Halloween costume (she was dressed as Magenta from ROCKY HORROR) and Michael s mask which elicited a LOT of laughter, seeing this little girl with this enormous mask on. We than cut to Laurie in a white room. Is she in a mental institution? I didn't think so, but others did. We see her look up and see Mrs. Myers walking towards her with the same white horse we've seen her with the whole movie. Laurie gives an evil little smile and the film ends.

So a good part of the discussion after was spent on that last scene. To me and a lot of other people it made no sense and was just, well, stupid. The fact that you think Laurie has turned bad for no reason at all didn't sit well with people because A) Its not who the character is and B) there is no reason for it. Shes had nothing happen to her to turn HER into a killer now.

A lot was also said afterward about the fact that we see a lot of Michaels face in this film. He has a very long beard and looks a lot like Zombie, himself which I wasn't sure if that was on purpose or not. But to me and most others there this isn't a good thing. Humanizing Michael doesn't make him more scary, it makes him completely unbelievable. If we see him as just a regular guy, how are we to believe? he can survive having his body bashed with baseball bats, bullets, etc and just get right back up again and keep killing. In the films current state, he is more like Jason, not Michael.

I'm sorry if this was a bit all over the place. I'm at work and doing a million things at the same time as trying to do this, but that's pretty much the gist of the film as it is now. I'll say again for as much as I detested the first one, this one was much much better. I'll even go to see it again to see what changes they've hopefully made to it



http://broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.cfm?thread=1001106&boardname=off&dt=1&boardid=2

If that review is true, it sounds even worse than I thought.

[Spider-ManHero12]

wasnt it in the trailer? not the whole thing..but some of it? A "Half cut" version of it, which sounded great, if you ask me.

[The Apatow Crew]

Exactly, my friend. I'm also still curious if the Halloween theme or any Halloween theme will appear in the film.I think Rob said he was doing something to it, to make it his own.

I guess you could say how the F13 theme was updated in the latest one.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I think Rob said he was doing something to it, to make it his own.

I guess you could say how the F13 theme was updated in the latest one. Yeah, good point.

[spiderfan08]

A "Half cut" version of it, which sounded great, if you ask me.

it honestly was more creepy

[SsM]

If that review is true, it sounds even worse than I thought.


I thought you were hyped about it??

[Marx]

I thought you were hyped about it??

No I'm not. I respect RZH for what it was. I'm still trying to understand how a humanized Michael survived a point blank gunshot to the head, but that's neither here nor there.

Zombie's sequel lost me when the 'Mother Myers behind Michael's pain' angle was revealed. I was able to overlook the problems that I had with the first. I was able to overlook 'Hobo Myers' in this one...but Mother Myers return is just too much.

That said, I will still be seeing it, but I sincerely hope that it doesn't become the second movie that I've ever walked out of. (The first being Batman & Robin.)

[The Apatow Crew]

Like I said i wouldn't put much faith into that review.


When you see the same reviews on all the sites, then thats when you should worry.

[Spider-ManHero12]

it honestly was more creepy Well, I find the halloween theme to be creepier, but that half theme was very scary and wouldn't mind having that in the opening.

[SsM]

No I'm not. I respect RZH for what it was. I'm still trying to understand how a humanized Michael survived a point blank gunshot to the head, but that's neither here nor there.

Zombie's sequel lost me when the 'Mother Myers behind Michael's pain' angle was revealed. I was able to overlook the problems that I had with the first. I was able to overlook 'Hobo Myers' in this one...but Mother Myers return is just too much.

That said, I will still be seeing it, but I sincerely hope that it doesn't become the second movie that I've ever walked out of. (The first being Batman & Robin.)


I was incredibly hyped for the first one. I hated all of the white trash garbage in the first hour, after that it was passable.

[Marx]

I was incredibly hyped for the first one. I hated all of the white trash garbage in the first hour, after that it was passable.

I really looked forward to the first one because I was curious to see how it would be done. Overall, I think it was done pretty well. It wasn't horrible, but it wasn't great either. (I, like you, absolutely hated the white trash stuff.)

Especially when you compare it to the remakes of Friday the 13th and Chainsaw Massacre, RZH is just OK.

[SsM]

I really looked forward to the first one because I was curious to see how it would be done. Overall, I think it was done pretty well. I, like you, absolutely hated the white trash stuff.


I thought it was decent enough as long as I didn't compare it to the original, which so many people tend to do.

The only thing I couldn't forgive was that they killed off Loomis...



Which is pretty much invalidated now because.. Well, he AND Michael are somehow both.. Still alive.. Loomis seemingly without any scars or sight damage.

[Booznian]

I was incredibly hyped for the first one. I hated all of the white trash garbage in the first hour, after that it was passable.

I was super pumped for RZH. No hype at all for H2. =\

[Spider-ManHero12]

I was super pumped for RZH. No hype at all for H2. =\ I was pumped for RZH as well, and honestly, I'm still pumped for H2. A little more curious after reading that review, but still pumped.

[SsM]

I was super pumped for RZH. No hype at all for H2. =\

I took off work to go see RZH. My emotional spectrum during the movie is as follows. :grin::woot::yay::oldrazz::huh::cmad::csad:

[Marx]

I thought it was decent enough as long as I didn't compare it to the original, which so many people tend to do.

The only thing I couldn't forgive was that they killed off Loomis...



Which is pretty much invalidated now because.. Well, he AND Michael are somehow both.. Still alive.. Loomis seemingly without any scars or sight damage.

That's another problem I have.

[SsM]

That's another problem I have.


Yeah, I mean.. at least Michael's mask is all messed up and bloodied. Loomis looks BETTER than he did in RZH. :whatever:


So, I'll probably watch it to see how Zombie explains these things.. I haven't decided if I'm going to a theater, I may just wait to see what you guys think.

[Booznian]

I just don't like anything that I've seen that's in H20.

Rebellious/Indy Laurie
Mama Myers Visions
Media Whore Loomis
Half Mask Hobo Myers
The movie coming out in August? :WTF:

idk, I'm in a complaining mood.

[Booznian]

I just don't like anything that I've seen that's in H20.

Rebellious/Indy Laurie
Mama Myers Visions
Media Whore Loomis
Half Mask Hobo Myers
The movie coming out in August? :WTF:

idk, I'm in a complaining mood.

[SsM]

I just don't like anything that I've seen that's in H20.

Rebellious/Indy Laurie
Mama Myers Visions
Media Whore Loomis
Half Mask Hobo Myers
The movie coming out in August? :WTF:

idk, I'm in a complaining mood.


Isn't it the same day RZH opened in 07?

[Booznian]

Edit: double post

[The Apatow Crew]

Isn't it the same day RZH opened in 07?Yes iit did. They figure it did so well that time, it will do good again. It made like 30 some million dollars opening weekend.
The only thing I couldn't forgive was that they killed off Loomis...Apparently not. seeing how he's in this.

[Marx]

I just don't like anything that I've seen that's in H20.

Rebellious/Indy Laurie
Mama Myers Visions
Media Whore Loomis
Half Mask Hobo Myers
The movie coming out in August? :WTF:

idk, I'm in a complaining mood.

I'm not too fond of that either.

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

I took off work to go see RZH. My emotional spectrum during the movie is as follows. :grin::woot::yay::oldrazz::huh::cmad::csad:
I took a half day off to go see it

[Marx]

Yes iit did. They figure it did so well that time, it will do good again. It made like 30 some million dollars opening weekend.

How much do you honestly think it will make this go 'round? (Given the negative reactions to what has been released about it.)

[The Apatow Crew]

How much do you honestly think it will make this go 'round? (Given the negative reactions to what has been released about it.)Well, it also has another big Horror Sequel coming out the same day. The Final Destination AKA FD4. So i'm guessing that might take a chunk out and you gotta remember the general movie audience doesn't care about negative reviews or such. So i guess about 25-30 million maybe. Could be more, could be less.

[Marx]

Well, it also has another big Horror Sequel coming out the same day. The Final Destination AKA FD4. So i'm guessing that might take a chunk out and you gotta remember the general movie audience doesn't care about negative reviews or such. So i guess about 25-30 million maybe. Could be more, could be less.

Isn't FD4 in 3D as well?

[spiderfan08]

Isn't FD4 in 3D as well?

i believe so

[The Apatow Crew]

Isn't FD4 in 3D as well?Yeah, it will be.

[Marx]

3D will pull even more to FD4 then.

[The Apatow Crew]

3D will pull even more to FD4 then.Yeah, it'll be a battle for #1. Seeing as the FD movies are for like 17-19 year old and the Halloween movie might be for the 20 crowds and older maybe.

[Marx]

...but the 20 somethings have grown with both. It'll be interesting. I just think that Halloween is going to take a hit because the fans that came out for the first one, have more than likely been following the news for the sequel.

[The Apatow Crew]

...but the 20 somethings have grown with both. It'll be interesting. I just think that Halloween is going to take a hit because the fans that came out for the first one, have more than likely been following the news for the sequel.Yeah, i'm sure they will. I didn't wanna amke groups, but i just thought that was the easiest to do.

I know i'll be seeing both movies prolly openfing weekend.

I own all three FD dvds on dvd, I seen the third one in theaters and I see RZ's Halloween in theaters and own the dvd too.

I just watched it tonight. cause all this talk of horror made me wanna watch it.

[Marx]

I just can't shake the feeling that Rob Zombie's Halloween II is going to do to RZH what Halloween: Resurrection did to H20.

It already is actually.

[Nivek]

I just can't shake the feeling that Rob Zombie's Halloween II is going to do to RZH what Halloween: Resurrection did to H20.

It already is actually.

I doubt that. All resurrection did was highlight how uninspired and pointless the first reboot (H20) really was.

At least Zombie is going off the beaten sequel path. I hope...

[MAN O STEEL]

I doubt that. All resurrection did was highlight how uninspired and pointless the first reboot (H20) really was.



H20 wasn't supposed to be a reboot, it was the final chapter to Laurie Strodes story & it was a damn good movie. Felt very much like the first movie to me. Ressurection was just a star vehicle for a second rate rapper & a bunch of s***s. How does the ******ness of one movie make the previous look bad?, especially if they are not in any way related to each other storywise, apart from Lauries death at the beggining, which was stupid beyond belief. that's not the fault of H20, as H20 wrapped it up nicely. For me the only halloween's worth giving a damn is 1, 2 & H20 as Laurie Strode's story is & should have been the only story to be told. the rest were garbage. The new series by Rob Zombies is a winner for me, i enjoy it very much though. the 3 disc edition of the first was wicked.





Steve

[Nivek]

H20 was a reboot. It threw out the other sequels, and started a fresh Jamie Lee Curtis based continuity (that splintered from the first film, it didn't even count the 2nd film since Michael & Loomis were unscarred) that continued into resurrection, I'm not a fan of any post H6 films, so excuse my negativity.

[Johnny Drama]

H20 was a reboot. It threw out the other sequels, and started a fresh Jamie Lee Curtis based continuity (that splintered from the first film, it didn't even count the 2nd film since Michael & Loomis were unscarred) that continued into resurrection, I'm not a fan of any post H6 films, so excuse my negativity.

Once again, Nivek doesn't know what he is talking about :wow:.

H20 is a direct sequel to Halloween 2. Jimmy, the male nurse from Halloween 2 fathered Lauries son, Josh Hartnetts character from H20. Loomis not being scarred makes no sense as he didn't even appear in H20, he died 3 years prior, and was not shown in a single flashback :huh:

Wikipedia even states H20 is the official sequel to Halloween 2, the only ones it doesn't acknowledge is 3-6, so H20 is NOT a reboot. Do your homework. :o


This chapter is meant to be a direct sequel to Halloween II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_II). The "H20" in the title refers to the film taking place in continuity (as well as the sequel and having been made) twenty years after the original. This is evident in the "20 Years Later" subtitle, not to water as some may think.
The original working title for the film was Halloween 7: The Revenge Of Laurie Strode. Due to this being a sequel to Halloween II, the title was, however, changed to Halloween: H20.

[Booznian]

Halloween->Halloween II->H20->Ressurection

Halloween III

Halloween IV->Halloween V->Halloween VI

H20 is still my favorite. ^_^

[Johnny Drama]

H20 was better than Rob Zombies Halloween.

Sad but true.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ I always thought H20 was really good, honestly. Very well made. :up:

[Booznian]

I can't take his films seriously. RZH was so trashy and bad, lol. H20 really brought the H1 atmosphere back. I loved it.

[Nivek]

Once again, Nivek doesn't know what he is talking about :wow:.

*Groan*...

H20 is a direct sequel to Halloween 2. Jimmy, the male nurse from Halloween 2 fathered Lauries son, Josh Hartnetts character from H20.

Okay, I don't even remember them mentioning who his dad was, makes the other continuity butchering details even more confusing...

Loomis not being scarred makes no sense as he didn't even appear in H20, he died 3 years prior, and was not shown in a single flashback :huh:

Loomis was shown in a Photo at his house, unscarred. And then we get Michael showing up after 20 years, unscarred, in a clean mask, new coveralls, and manages to travel states away like that. You see the end of halloween 2? Michael was on fire, fire leaves burns. But hey, I didn't make this confusing film anyway, so...

Wikipedia even states H20 is the official sequel to Halloween 2, the only ones it doesn't acknowledge is 3-6, so H20 is NOT a reboot. Do your homework. :o


Wiki also is wrong about tons of other details on other films, thats what happens when it's viewers can edit the info themselves. Also, if it reset's the continuity by eliminating established storylines and sequels, why isn't that called a reboot?

I'm not wasting any more time with Johnny Dreamer, just backing up my info and reinforcing my point.

[Johnny Drama]

I'm not wasting any more time with Johnny Dreamer, just backing up my info and reinforcing my point.

Which you completley 100% failed to do. :up:

And it's not even like I had to resort to Wikipedia. Halloween 2 is the film that establishes that LAURIE IS MICHAELS SISTER,, which was the significant plot point for H20.

If H20 was a "reboot" only acknowledging the first film( which in itself is an oxymoron), Laurie wouldn't know that Michael is her brother, now would she?

[Booznian]

Jimmy from H2 was the father of Jamie Lloyd, (the protagonis from H: IV/ H: V) not Josh Hartnett's character from H20.

@ Nivek: the photo of Loomis could have been before H2, it's not known. After a course of 20 years I'm sure Michael had time to find a new mask, and new overalls.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I can't take his films seriously. RZH was so trashy and bad, lol. H20 really brought the H1 atmosphere back. I loved it. I found RZH to be really good, actually. ALso, yes, H20 did feel like the H1 atmosphere. I also loved Halloween II (1981).

[Marx]

H20 is one of the best films in the series. It had the perfect ending...then Resurrection came along and ruined it.

[Spider-ManHero12]

H20 is one of the best films in the series. It had the perfect ending...then Resurrection came along and ruined it. You're 110% correct, my friend. It should have ended at H20, but then they had to go and say it was a paramedic who had his larynx crushed. Pffft, pathetic. :whatever:

[Booznian]

You're 110% correct, my friend. It should have ended at H20, but then they had to go and say it was a paramedic who had his larynx crushed. Pffft, pathetic.


I couldn't believe what the **** I was seeing. Such a sad excuse for a movie.


Trick o' treat mudda fugga. :whatever:

[Spider-ManHero12]

I couldn't believe what the **** I was seeing. Such a sad excuse for a movie.


Trick o' treat mudda fugga. :whatever: Oh god, the horrible memories of...of...Busta Rymes. God help me now! I mean, you don't get in a karate fight with Myers. It's just.....terrible. I rank that film 4 out of 10, actually. Or less, honestly.

[Booznian]

THe whole movie was dissapointing. The lead Sarah..I couldn't even take her seriously. Ugh fail.

[Spider-ManHero12]

THe whole movie was dissapointing. The lead Sarah..I couldn't even take her seriously. Ugh fail. Epic fail, indeed. Jamie Lee Curtis was the only good one in that film.

[Booznian]

I thought Busta did a good job... :whatever:

[Spider-ManHero12]

Also, I have to say, I didn't like the use of the cameras in the film. It was just a bad idea, and it didn't work out well. I'm still surprised that Rick Rosenthal can direct a great movie like Halloween II (1981), then completely bomb with Ressurection. Though, part of the reason Halloween II was great and scary was because Caprenter helped.

[The Joker]

Jimmy from H2 was the father of Jamie Lloyd, (the protagonis from H: IV/ H: V) not Josh Hartnett's character from H20.

Where was that ever specified?

Halloween, Halloween II, and Halloween H20 are my favourite Halloween movies. I loved the Laurie Strode story. It was more interesting and entertaining than the crap they pulled with Jamie Lloyd, like her and Michael having a telepathic link, Jamie being temporarily possessed by Michael's evil, and then there was her getting preganant in the Thorn cult.

Ugh!

[Booznian]

I'm not exactly sure. Check out ohmb.net. I don't remember where but it makes the most sense. Who fathered Jamie? Jimmy seems the most obvious. But since H20 ignores 4,5,6, Jimmy could have fathered Josh Hartnetts character n

[Majik1387]

Where was that ever specified?

Halloween, Halloween II, and Halloween H20 are my favourite Halloween movies. I loved the Laurie Strode story. It was more interesting and entertaining than the crap they pulled with Jamie Lloyd, like her and Michael having a telepathic link, Jamie being temporarily possessed by Michael's evil, and then there was her getting preganant in the Thorn cult.

Ugh!
To be fair, the Thorn angle was introduced in Halloween 4, along with the telepathic link. I just figured it was part of the Thorn/Samhain angle.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Bash me, if you guys want, but I actually perfer Halloween 6 over Ressurection.

[Nivek]

Bash me, if you guys want, but I actually perfer Halloween 6 over Ressurection.

Maybe by a notch or two, but I agree with you completely. I find H20 attracts more casual fan's than the other sequels. Personally, I think it is because it resembles Scream and I know what you did Last Summer more so than Halloween.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Maybe by a notch or two, but I agree with you completely. I find H20 attracts more casual fan's than the other sequels. Personally, I think it is because it resembles Scream and I know what you did Last Summer more so than Halloween. Yeah, you're probably right. I just loved how Michael was even smarter in H20. I mean, he came down from the ceiling, for god sake. :up:

[Johnny Drama]

Maybe by a notch or two, but I agree with you completely. I find H20 attracts more casual fan's than the other sequels. Personally, I think it is because it resembles Scream and I know what you did Last Summer more so than Halloween.

Or maybe because it was a good ending to to the original series?

[Booznian]

Bash me, if you guys want, but I actually perfer Halloween 6 over Ressurection.

I totally agree with you. H6 was ****ing awesome and still scares me. From best to worst:

1. Halloween II
2. Halloween
3. Halloween 6
4. Halloween H20
5. Halloween IV
6. Halloween V
7. Rob Zombie's Halloween
8. Halloween: Ressurection.
( excluding H III )

[Johnny Drama]

Bash me, if you guys want, but I actually perfer Halloween 6 over Ressurection.

Why woud anyone bash you for that? H:R sucked

[Spider-ManHero12]

Why woud anyone bash you for that? H:R sucked Very true, but people also thought H6 wasn't great either.


Originally Posted By Booznian
I totally agree with you. H6 was ****ing awesome and still scares me. From best to worst:

1. Halloween II
2. Halloween
3. Halloween 6
4. Halloween H20
5. Halloween IV
6. Halloween V
7. Rob Zombie's Halloween
8. Halloween: Ressurection.
( excluding H III ) Yeah, it really was scary and cool. Defenitely not my favorite, but not bad. Halloween II is my favorite sequel. Halloween 4 was great, and obviously, Halloween (1978) is my #1 favorite.

[Booznian]

I found H2 to be much more scary than H1. I mean it takes place in an empty hospital, that alone gives me the creeps.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Yeah, it defenitely is terrifying, but alomst all of them are. H1 is still the scariest though, IMO.

Also, Season Of The Witch kicked ass.

[Nivek]

Yeah, you're probably right. I just loved how Michael was even smarter in H20. I mean, he came down from the ceiling, for god sake. :up:

Really? I thought that part was really cheesy. Like what, he is a trapeze artist or Ninja now?

Michael in most of his incarnations has been pretty smart. Hell, he figured out how to drive a car in the first film...

[Marx]

Or maybe because it was a good THE PERFECT ending to to the original series?

Fixed.

[Booznian]

HIII was lame. I didn't like it at all, too cheesy. H20 was terrifying when I saw it in theaters. I was 6 at the time and my cousin took me to see it with his gf when he was sopposed to be babysitting me. Yeah so I slept with the lights on for weeks. Lol

[Marx]

HIII was lame. I didn't like it at all, too cheesy. H20 was terrifying when I saw it in theaters. I was 6 at the time and my cousin took me to see it with his gf when he was sopposed to be babysitting me. Yeah so I slept with the lights on for weeks. Lol

You were 6? God I feel old!

[Johnny Drama]

You were 6? God I feel old!

Yeah, tell me about it. Seems like only yesterday...

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

You were 6? God I feel old!
I know, I was a junior in HS when H20 came out.

[Booznian]

You were 6? God I feel old!

Yep, I'm 17 now. ;P

[Nightmare]

Id put Halloween 3 over Halloween: Ressurection :hehe:

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

1. Halloween (78)
2. Halloween 2
3. H20
4. Halloween 4
5. RZ Halloween
6. Halloween 5
7. Halloween 6
8. Halloween Res.
9. Halloween 3

[SsM]

Oh god, the horrible memories of...of...Busta Rymes. God help me now! I mean, you don't get in a karate fight with Myers. It's just.....terrible. I rank that film 4 out of 10, actually. Or less, honestly.


Busta is the ****.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Id put Halloween 3 over Halloween: Ressurection :hehe: By a m,illion. Season Of The WItch was so awesome, as I said.

[Majik1387]

I thought the main girl in Resurrection was alright, the movie just needed a better script and no Busta Rhymes.

[The Joker]

To be fair, the Thorn angle was introduced in Halloween 4, along with the telepathic link. I just figured it was part of the Thorn/Samhain angle.

No, the Thorn stuff and the telepathic link came about in Halloween 5. There was no mention of it in H4.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I thought the main girl in Resurrection was alright, the movie just needed a better script and no Busta Rhymes. ALl the actors were pretty low, if you ask me. I mean, they didn't hold a whole lot to them.

[Booznian]

The Michael wasn't that bad though. The first chase scene with Jamie Lee Curtis was intense. :up:

[Gallagher]

Heh, Ressurection is on TV now.

[Booznian]

I hope your tv doesn't explode.

[Sawyer]

The Michael wasn't that bad though. The first chase scene with Jamie Lee Curtis was intense. :up:

I liked the mask in Resurrection.

[Spider-ManHero12]

The Michael wasn't that bad though. The first chase scene with Jamie Lee Curtis was intense. :up:Yeah, he did a decent job. Nick Castle remains supreme though.

[Booznian]

Nick Castle was great.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I hope your tv doesn't explode. I agree.

my prayers are with you, Gallagher.

[Nightmare]

I thought the H20 Michael Myers was the worst. His figure was all scrawny. Just awful. Looked like a female in the costume.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Nick Castle was great. Yeah, that straight and steady walk really just fit it perfectly.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I thought the H20 Michael Myers was the worst. His figure was all scrawny. Just awful. Looked like a female in the costume. I have to completley disagree. He ws creepy, and actually reminded me of the first film sort of. I mean, Michael wasn't exactly...built wel in the first film. He was quite thin, though, he was played by 2 different actors. Still, you could hardly tell.

[Nightmare]

Oh and i also thought the H20 mask was by far the worst mask. Big ol bulging eyes staring back at you. When he got shot in part 2 and was always pitch black eyes in 4-6, stupid for H20 to take it differently.

[Majik1387]

No, the Thorn stuff and the telepathic link came about in Halloween 5. There was no mention of it in H4.
My mistake about the Thorn guy, I mistook him getting off the bus and Loomis going into the Myers house for the 4th movie.
But the ending of H4 was pretty much alluding to the telepathic link between Michael and Jamie, not to mention when she picked out the clown costume in the shop, she envisioned herself as young Michael right before the mirror crashed.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Oh and i also thought the H20 mask was by far the worst mask. Big ol bulging eyes staring back at you. When he got shot in part 2 and was always pitch black eyes in 4-6, stupid for H20 to take it differently. I have to disagree. originally, they had a mask that just looked stupid. At one point, when Michael is staring at laurie through that circular window in the door, that was one of the few shots where they had the bad mask. They actually switched the mask behind the directors back to an actualy awesome looking one. There's even one scene where the mask is CG.

[Booznian]

What are your favorite Michaels?

Michaels: from best to worst

1. Halloween ('78) -Awesome walk, very chilling.
2. Halloween II - Great walk, and head tilts.
3. Halloween IV - Good walk and just scary presence.
4. Halloween 6 - Fast walk, he was like a force of nature.
5. Halloween H20 - Really good Nick Castle walk.
6. Halloween 8 - Good walk, similar to H20.
7. RZH - Too big, but had a pretty decent walk.
8. Halloween V- Okay walk, but too builky and awkward.

[Spider-ManHero12]

1. Halloween (1978) (perfect!)
2. Halloween II (Just about perfect!)
3. Halloween 4
4.Halloween H20
5. Halloween 6
6. Rob Zombie's Halloween
7. Halloween 8 (okay walk, but slow as hell)
8. Halloween 5

[Fanticon]

ok so i read the focus group reviewer's review...and after bashing almost three quarters of what he/she saw...heres the last line...

I'm sorry if this was a bit all over the place. I'm at work and doing a million things at the same time as trying to do this, but that's pretty much the gist of the film as it is now. I'll say again for as much as I detested the first one, this one was much much better. I'll even go to see it again to see what changes they've hopefully made to it

:huh::huh:

so...i liked the first one...and it sounds like i'm not going to like this one as much but this person says they hated the first one and this one was better.

[Nightmare]

Wow people hating on Don Shanks lol

I loved George P Wilbur, dude was huge and it just added to how scary Michael was.

[Booznian]

Don was too huge. Worse than Tyler Mane.

[Episode29]

Part 5 was made worse by the fact that Michael drove a lot. There was something really odd and unthreatening about that.

[Booznian]

Especially since it was always frightening seeing Michael show up places quickly. It's not as scary now that we know he just drives to where he wants to kill. Lol

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

Part 5 was made worse by the fact that Michael drove a lot. There was something really odd and unthreatening about that.
You're right, I never thought about that. He does lose some of his menace knowing that he has to stop to get gas and oil changes lol.

[Sawyer]

I dont really feel like rating the Michaels since thouse guys did a pretty good job summing it up, so I'm judging the masks...

Halloween
Halloween II
Resurrection
RZH
H20
Halloween 4
Halloween 6
Halloween 5

[Spider-ManHero12]

Masks

Hallwoeen (1978)
Halloween II (1981)
Halloween H20
Rob Zombie's Halloween
Halloween 6
Halloween 4
Halloween 5
Halloween Ressurection

[The Joker]

Mask rating:

1. Halloween
2. Halloween II
3. RZ's Halloween
4. Halloween H20
5. Halloween 6
6. Halloween 4
7. Halloween Resurrection
8. Halloween 5

[Nightmare]

Mask Rating:

Halloween
Halloween 2

The rest.

[Cagefighterkip]

RZ's HALLOWEEN had the best mask IMO

[The Apatow Crew]

SDCC: Dourif to Have a Larger Role in Halloween II
Source:Ryan Rotten, Managing Editor



In the world of Rob Zombie's Halloween II (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/films.php?id=8895), anything goes. The writer-director has no blueprint or rules to follow this time. As he's stated on this site before, he had creative freedom this time out. And one of the aspects we've been speculating about is who, in his world, are we expected to see more of? Loomis? Annie? Laurie?

Try Sheriff Brackett.

Rob Zombie confirmed to me this afternoon that you can expect to see more of actor Dourif reprising his role as Haddonfield's keeper of the peace. But you'll find him in a shabbier condition than when we last saw him. "Brad's very important to the movie," Zombie exclusively tells ShockTillYouDrop.com. [I]"Last time, you couldn't fit too much with him. Here you have your survivors. Laurie Strode moves in with Sheriff Brackett and Annie. That's the core of your movie. For Brackett, Brad grew his hair long and he's all rough looking. He's old, he's worn out, he's just this beat-down guy with these two girls he can't deal with. Brad must have that in his real life because he latched onto it. He was like, 'Man, I can relate to this. I'm getting old.' He really bonded with those two girls. He didn't have a lot to do in the first film but here he really digs in. There's classic Brad Dourif in this."

As for the status of Halloween II, "We tested it last week in New York and now we're finishing the movie, editing. Next week we'll test it in L.A. The screening went really good. I just try to sit in the audience and feel the vibe."film in theaters on August 28. More with Zombie to come!

http://www.shocktilyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=11196

[SsM]

Was he cutting it this close to release with RZH?

[Spider-ManHero12]

Good to know more of Brad Dourif will be in this film. :up:

[Nivek]

The cast is full of stars and known talents. I never understood why some people give Zombie crap for casting these "has been's".

[Figs]

The cast is full of stars and known talents. I never understood why some people give Zombie crap for casting these "has been's".

I think it has to do with what you've said a lot of times in the past. A lot of the people giving him crap about casting these "has been's" aren't old school horror fans.

I love the fact that a lot of the actors he casts are from some of the cult classics from the 60's, 70's and 80's.

[SsM]

The cast is full of stars and known talents. I never understood why some people give Zombie crap for casting these "has been's".


Who is being called a has been? Dourif? He's had steady work since the 80s but even if he was:


Better to be a has been than a never was :P

[Marx]

I am a huge Brad Dourif fan! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[Nivek]

Who is being called a has been? Dourif? He's had steady work since the 80s but even if he was:


Better to be a has been than a never was :P

I've heard that comment lobbed at Zombie and Tarantino quite often.

I've liked Dorif since I first seen him in One Flew Over the Coo coo's Nest, and can't go wrong with Charles Lee Ray.

[Booznian]

Favorite Masks

Halloween
Halloween II
Halloween 6
RZH
H20
Halloween Ressurection
Halloween 4
Halloween 5

I hatteedd the Halloween 5 mask.

[The Apatow Crew]

I've heard that comment lobbed at Zombie and Tarantino quite often.

I've liked Dorif since I first seen him in One Flew Over the Coo coo's Nest, and can't go wrong with Charles Lee Ray.Just like how everyone will always think Robert Englund is Freddy. Brad Dourif if Chucky.

[Nivek]

Just like how everyone will always think Robert Englund is Freddy. Brad Dourif if Chucky.

I just think Chucky is one of the better Slasher Anti-Heroes that came out of the 80's. He used to scare the hell out of my cousins when they were little. But he did great Voice-work in all the movies, including the last two black comedy-sequels that were produced.

[The Apatow Crew]

I just think Chucky is one of the better Slasher Anti-Heroes that came out of the 80's. He used to scare the hell out of my cousins when they were little. But he did great Voice-work in all the movies, including the last two black comedy-sequels that were produced.Oh, hell, yeah. Chucky used to scare the hell out of me as a kid.

And to this day still freaks me out and i get a cold shiver down my spine seeing him or even thinking of him.

Love that laugh of his though. And the line "Give me the power I beg of you!" Classic.

I say it sometimes it my regular life. And they just look at me weird.

[Nivek]

I gave one of my cousins a 'My Buddy' doll for his 5th birthday because I knew Chucky creeped him out. He's 22 and still brings that up, calling me a cruel bastard and such.

[The Apatow Crew]

I remember one time I was at a spencers gift and you know they sell thw chucky dolls there.

And one time I was looking at something and one of the chucky dolls fell of the shelf and onto me and i freaked the hell out.

[Nivek]

The Spencers ones are kinda plain, Sideshow has sold some hyper-detailed Chucky Doll's that are pretty impressive. My cousin still has a back order for the original film Chucky style for several months.

[Johnny Drama]

The cast is full of stars and known talents. I never understood why some people give Zombie crap for casting these "has been's".

I have never seen anyone give him crap for his casting decisions, aside from Tyler Mane.

[Nivek]

Suuuurreee.....

[Fresh Prince]

I just think Chucky is one of the better Slasher Anti-Heroes that came out of the 80's. He used to scare the hell out of my cousins when they were little. But he did great Voice-work in all the movies, including the last two black comedy-sequels that were produced.

What is black comedy?

[The Apatow Crew]

What is black comedy?It's not astraight up horror movie, but it also has Comedy in it. And the feel is more jokey then serious.

[SsM]

What is black comedy?


A dark comedy....

[Johnny Drama]

I enjoyed all 5 Chuckie movies. Sue me.

[SsM]

The last one was bizarre...

[Spider-ManHero12]

You know, guys, even though the review didn't sound grea,t I wouldn't automatically assume it's terrible afterall. I mean, I will admit it was quite a turn off to me when I read the review, but honestly, I'm back to being very excited. However, my question is, where do we go after this film?

[Spider-ManHero12]

I enjoyed all 5 Chuckie movies. Sue me. I enjoyyd them as well, but the last one was pretty dissapointing, IMO. The first and second rock. Hell, even the third.

[The Apatow Crew]

I really didn't care for the last one. It was too goofy for me.

[SsM]

You know, guys, even though the review didn't sound grea,t I wouldn't automatically assume it's terrible afterall. I mean, I will admit it was quite a turn off to me when I read the review, but honestly, I'm back to being very excited. However, my question is, where do we go after this film?


Home? Maybe a late night beer after??? Or if you go see it in the afternoon.. Lunch.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Home? Maybe a late night beer after??? Or if you go see it in the afternoon.. Lunch. Lol. :woot:


Seriously, though, I'm starting to wonder if this is the end of Michael Myers for a while. I certainly hope not.

[The Apatow Crew]

However, my question is, where do we go after this film?I'm sure someone else will just continue on with the series like with every horror franchise. I mean not unless this makes no money at all what so ever. Then it'll be a while before a new film.

[SsM]

Lol. :woot:


Seriously, though, I'm starting to wonder if this is the end of Michael Myers for a while. I certainly hope not.


I don't think there is anything else to be done.... Some things don't need sequels and remakes.

[Johnny Drama]

I wont let a negative review discourage me. I will still give Rob my money and hope for an enjoyable experience.

[SsM]

Hope burns bright.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'm sure someone else will just continue on with the series like with every horror franchise. I mean not unless this makes no money at all what so ever. Then it'll be a while before a new film. I hope they contiuned as well, but i never looked at Rob Zombie's Halloween series to have maultiple films. I fear that this will become the new "Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake" franchise where we won't get a film in a long time. I mean, Michael is my favorite of the slashers, so I hope this isn't the end, as I said.

Originally Posted by SsM
I don't think there is anything else to be done.... Some things don't need sequels and remakes. Well, I said this a while back, but maybe...just maybe they could open the doors to the last series, but even that I don't think is the best idea.

They better not put Michael in space. I hear they were going to do that in the 90's, but I'm SOOO happy that didn't fall through.

[The Apatow Crew]

They better not put Michael in space. I hear they were going to do that in the 90's, but I'm SOOO happy that didn't fall through.And I think the script was suppose to either be writen or directed by Quentin Tarantino.

[Spider-ManHero12]

And I think the script was suppose to either be writen or directed by Quentin Tarantino. Yep.

Also, Carpenter should have directed H20. Thankfully, it was still great without him, but still.

[CrypticOne]

I really didn't care for the last one. It was too goofy for me.

Agreed. All the others were pretty watchable though.

[Johnny Drama]

A nice little breadown of all the Halloween masks...

http://www.freddyinspace.com/2008/10/many-masks-of-michael-myers.html

[spiderfan08]

You know, guys, even though the review didn't sound grea,t I wouldn't automatically assume it's terrible afterall. I mean, I will admit it was quite a turn off to me when I read the review, but honestly, I'm back to being very excited. However, my question is, where do we go after this film?

i was thinking about this too. i think after this film..RZ is gonna be done. judging by the review..this might be a good thing. but..i re-watched the second trailer to this film and damn it looks so good! except for mikes mom being a ghost or whatever in the film. leave her ass out of it, imo. but i will definitely be in the audience watching this film in theaters.

like others have said..its a horror franchise and it will never die. someone along the line will bring michael back to the big screen. im with you spider-manhero12..michael is one of my favorite slasher characters..i would hate to see him fade. but i doubt it will happen even if this current series come to an end after this film

[Spider-ManHero12]

A nice little breadown of all the Halloween masks...

http://www.freddyinspace.com/2008/10/many-masks-of-michael-myers.html Good reviews there.

[Marx]

A nice little breadown of all the Halloween masks...

http://www.freddyinspace.com/2008/10/many-masks-of-michael-myers.html

That's a pretty cool review. Thanks for posting Johnny!

My Mask Ranking

1. Halloween
2. Halloween II
3. Rob Zombie's Halloween
4. Halloween H20
5. Halloween 6
6. Halloween Resurrection
7. Halloween 4
8. Halloween 5

(Truthfully, if it weren't for sentimental value, I would say the RZH mask is the best. I love the grittiness of it!)

[SsM]

My ranking:

1.Halloween
2. There were more movies????

[spiderfan08]

My mask rankings

1. RZ Halloween (i've always been biased to a grunge look)
2. Halloween
pretty much hated the rest

[Nivek]

My Mask Rank (what the hell)

1- The original modified Shatner Mask
2- Halloween 5/ RZ Halloween 2
3- RZ Halloween
4- Halloween Resurrection
5- Halloween 2
6- Halloween 6
7- Halloween H20
8- Halloween 4

Special Mention- The Halloween: Season of the Witch Pumpkin and Skull masks. I loved that Skull Mask but the cast's were child sized and never fit well so I traded it, and never got to own the Pumkin one.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'm surprised people even like the Ressurection mask. DOesn't even look like michael's masks.

http://content9.flixster.com/poll/97/30/97303_std.jpg

[Marx]

I'm surprised people even like the Ressurection mask. DOesn't even look like michael's masks.

http://content9.flixster.com/poll/97/30/97303_std.jpg

The Resurrection mask looks better than some of the other masks.

[Spider-ManHero12]

The Resurrection mask looks better than some of the other masks. Hardly. The cheeks on the face don't even resemble the originals. H20's was great.