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Nivek
08-27-2009, 03:09 PM
A semi-positive review...
http://spookylittlegirllikeyou.blogspot.com/2009/08/movie-review-rob-zombies-halloween-2.html
I hate how people have to say "...but I like RZ's first Halloween" like it's a negative selling point. If they didn't care for the first film, why bother trying to hook them with this one?
What if you moderately like the first?
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 03:11 PM
I hate how people have to say "...but I like RZ's first Halloween" like it's a negative selling point. If they didn't care for the first film, why bother trying to hook them with this one?I don't know people are weird. and if it was positive or not. i really wouldn't take advice from someones blog. Cause like anyone can have a blog.
Nivek
08-27-2009, 03:13 PM
I'm just tired of people sucking up to haters. On forums and live time.
If you moderately liked the first film, give it a shot, or wait for DVD.
Nivek
08-27-2009, 03:13 PM
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You shouldn't let it get to you, for every ten people that like something there are another ten that don't. It's timeless! :P All that matters is you like what you like, and they like what they like.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 03:18 PM
But sometimes people can make a habit of it. Harping on you for liking a certain thing they did. Or vice verse. They harp on you for not liking a certain thing they all like.
But sometimes people can make a habit of it. Harping on you for liking a certain thing they did. Or vice verse. They harp on you for not liking a certain thing they all like.
You just have to learn to let it go, my friends are ALWAYS ragging on my for like the band "Train" but seriously, who give a damn? I like what I like, I'm not going to STOP liking it just because someone makes fun of me for liking it.
I like ALL of the Halloween movies, and I can enjoy almost any horror movie at least once. I can enjoy the absolute worst zombie movie. Why? Because they are fun. It's not your problem that people don't like what you like. It's not even a problem.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 03:27 PM
But I feel like sometimes you need people's permission to like certain movies.
Cause they're like eww you like that movie. what are you stupid?
But you're right though and I've just learned to ignore them.
hitmanyr2k
08-27-2009, 03:29 PM
This dude was harsh (contains spoilers)...
http://www.avrev.com/theatrical-movie-reviews/theatrical/halloween-ii-2009.html
JustABill
08-27-2009, 03:33 PM
But I feel like sometimes you need people's permission to like certain movies.
Cause they're like eww you like that movie. what are you stupid?
But you're right though and I've just learned to ignore them.
I'm of the philosophy if you like something you shouldn't be ashamed you like it.
Anyone who judges you seriously on whether or not you liked this movie/or that tv show is ****ing stupid.
There's things to judge a person on, but their taste in entertainment just shouldn't be one of them.
If I have a friend that likes something that I don't I just say ''Eww, I don't see why you like that." but I leave it at that, if they like it that's their business.
This dude was harsh (contains spoilers)...
http://www.avrev.com/theatrical-movie-reviews/theatrical/halloween-ii-2009.html
It's the worst film to ever bear the Halloween name, and when you've got a movie in your series where Michael Myers kung fu fights Busta Rhymes, that's saying something, <--- no way..
Holy crap, this guy's review is ****ing brutal.
The fact that the Weinstein brothers spent the last of their company's money funding and marketing this piece of crap (and then, in true Weinstein fashion, released the movie on the same day as the heavily advertised crowd-pleaser Final Destination in 3-D) just goes to prove why their film studio is in such dire straits at this point. Despite the fact that they co-financed the best movie of Quentin Tarantino's career (Inglourious Basterds), Halloween II and the other string of continuous flops Weinstein has released shows that their association with Tarantino is an utter fluke, a success that they absolutely cannot replicate or even capitalize on due to the unending succession of bad decisions. It's very likely that Halloween II will bankrupt the Weinstein Company, and it will be the one killing that this pathetic sham of a movie gets right.
The Joker
08-27-2009, 03:40 PM
This dude was harsh (contains spoilers)...
http://www.avrev.com/theatrical-movie-reviews/theatrical/halloween-ii-2009.html
Wow, he gave it a 0.5 rating?
OWTCH!
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 03:44 PM
Worst movie ever. I guess he never seen Halloween 3.
Why I put no faith into any of these people. I'm sure there mostly all pissed off film rejects or couldn't make it in the business and write these "reviews"
But then again these "reviews" seem like half the people on this site.
Spider-ManHero12
08-27-2009, 03:46 PM
I don't know people are weird. and if it was positive or not. i really wouldn't take advice from someones blog. Cause like anyone can have a blog. I have to agree.
Originally Posted by hitmanyr2k http://forums.superherohype.com/images/Drakon/SHHClassic/smallbuttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=17395559#post17395559)
This dude was harsh (contains spoilers)...
http://www.avrev.com/theatrical-movi...n-ii-2009.html (http://www.avrev.com/theatrical-movie-reviews/theatrical/halloween-ii-2009.html)
Seriously? That's bulls***.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 03:50 PM
I'm of the philosophy if you like something you shouldn't be ashamed you like it.
Anyone who judges you seriously on whether or not you liked this movie/or that tv show is ****ing stupid.
There's things to judge a person on, but their taste in entertainment just shouldn't be one of them.
If I have a friend that likes something that I don't I just say ''Eww, I don't see why you like that." but I leave it at that, if they like it that's their business.I know I don't say stuff to people about stuff i don't like. I mean my cousin likes Norbit and those big momma's house but i don't say nothing.
I think those people just try to say that cause they think their better then you cause of it. I'm not ashamed of liking a certain movie or anything. I'm not gonna beg someone to like a certain movie they don't.
Worst movie ever. I guess he never seen Halloween 3.
Why I put no faith into any of these people. I'm sure there mostly all pissed off film rejects or couldn't make it in the business and write these "reviews"
But then again these "reviews" seem like half the people on this site.
To be fair, the problem with Halloween III is that it's a Halloween movie. If it was a stand alone movie, it would be better received.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 04:01 PM
To be fair, the problem with Halloween III is that it's a Halloween movie. If it was a stand alone movie, it would be better received.You could call it HINO. Halloween in name only.:yay:
They tried to trick people and the people who were watching were going whens Micheal gonna pop up or where is Micheal and Loomis at?
You could call it HINO. Halloween in name only.:yay:
They tried to trick people and the people who were watching were going whens Micheal gonna pop up or where is Micheal and Loomis at?
Exactly. :oldrazz:
The Joker
08-27-2009, 04:03 PM
You could call it HINO. Halloween in name only.:yay:
They tried to trick people and the people who were watching were going whens Micheal gonna pop up or where is Micheal and Loomis at?
Well back then, people were supposed to think Michael and Loomis died in the fire at the end of Halloween II. That was the way Carpenter wrote it. That was supposed to be the end of the Michael Myers story.
Needless to say, that is not what happened.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 04:19 PM
Interview: Halloween II's Malcolm McDowell
Left for what we thought was dead at the end of 2007's Halloween (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/films.php?id=447) remake, Dr. Loomis shows his resilience and opportunistic nature in Halloween II (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/films.php?id=8895). Actor Malcolm McDowell sat down with the press earlier this week to talk about reprising the role and collaborating once again with writer-director Rob Zombie.
Question: Your feelings about journalists in the are interesting.
Malcolm McDowell: Did you mention journalist and intelligence all in the same sentence? I love the relationship between him and the PR lady. She was brilliant. It was fun and I thought it was time too bring in a little comedy into [I]Halloween. I also didn't want to play Loomis like I did before. Why bother doing it again so I made up another character just to **** with all the minds of the aficionados of the Halloween series.
Q: It was a good call because you needed some relief?
McDowell: That's what I figured because I knew that Rob would do his dark violent thing. Loomis is always in a limo. You're talking about drug addicts all depressed and Loomis is living the high life.
Q: Have you ever done an interview or a talk show left thinking “what the f**k” like your character does in the movie?
McDowell: Oh yes!
Q: Did the Loomis character come from you or Rob?
McDowell: I'd have to say it's somewhere from both of us. Most of it is actually improvised. Is the bookstore scene still in it?
Q: Yeah, you mean the guy who wants to shoot you?
McDowell: Yeah. Originally he was just supposed to throw some fake blood at me. We did it that way and then Rob goes, “You know let's up it.” He was right.
Q: Do you work out specifically what's happened with Loomis' life between the first film and now or do you go with what's on the page.
McDowell: I'm an English actor. It's like learn your lines, get on and do it. It's really not rocket science Acting is so stupid and so easy in a way it's stupid.
Q: Doing interviews is the hard part of it right?
McDowell: Well this is much more difficult because you have to put yourself out there and have to have a couple of really intelligent thoughts. I've been doing it so long that that main thing is to have some fun. Keep it light. Have some fun. Don't take it too seriously and move on. That's been the philosophy of my career.
Q: You must have really enjoyed working with Rob to come back for a second film with him.
McDowell: I love Rob. Great guy and very talented. I think he's going to have some really wonderful movies. He's at the beginning of his career really in terms of being a director. He's at the beginning. He's done a lot of horror movies and it's time now to move on.
Q: Would you work with him again?
McDowell: I'd do anything with him. He's got the talent to do whatever he wants to do. He happens to be very good at this - horror and directing. He's very good at scaring the living daylights out of you.
Q: What scares you?
McDowell: I'm not into horror. I like more psychology movies. Things like The Manchurian Candidate, I'm talking about the original. I haven't seen Jonathan's [Demme]. Clockwork Orange is a good example. It's a psychology horror film really. There's no blood or gore in it you know.
Q: Do you think Loomis wrote the book to be a celebrity or was he trying to help people?
McDowell: He's a doctor and not a really very good one obviously. He's had one patient for 17 years who breaks out and kills half the town. How good of a doctor can he be? He's in love with what most Americans are in love with - celebrity. That's one thing that I thought would be kind of amusing is to have this doctor who is of course an ego maniac. Have we met a doctor who wasn't? I think it's fun to play on that and also I just didn't' want to play the same character I played in the other one. If that's confusing than good. That's all I can say. That's good because I don't think people want to see the same thing gurgitated up again. Obviously some do though. The people who really love Halloween don't really think there are some perimeters you should cross, but hey, rules are there to be broken. I thought it'd be fun to really make him a total ******* because I felt in this particular script it needed some light moments - something you could laugh at. He's such a buffoon. He's such an ******* that you can actually laugh at it.
Q: The scene with Weird Al was great.
McDowell: Hello Mr. Weird. He is awesome and that was all ad-libbed. He suddenly looked at me and went zap . He was really out there. That was my most fun scene to shoot I think. It was great fun.
Q: I know you said you weren't a fan of horror, but did you see the Carpenter films?
McDowell: No, I haven't seen them yet, but I will at some point. I'm not a great fan of horror films. I guess you sort of picked that up, although I will say I was absolutely terrified when I had nothing to do for an hour or two [on set waiting] for the lights. I went looking for something to do and I found a DVD of one of Rob's movies [I]Devil's Rejects. I thought, oh I'll just pop that in. I'm sitting there in the dark in the middle of wherever it was and I was absolutely ****ting myself. That was a really scary movie - fantastic though.
Q: What are you working on at the moment?
McDowell: I just finished Entourage, the last two of the season. Those will be very good. They're wonderful scenes.
Q: You play an ******* again.
McDowell: I think he's just a survivor. There were four scenes and they were really great scenes so that's why I went back to do it. I think I'm going to be back the next season too. I think because of a plot point, but I don't want to give that away.http://www.shocktilyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=11558
Thundarr
08-27-2009, 04:21 PM
You could call it HINO. Halloween in name only.:yay:
They tried to trick people and the people who were watching were going whens Micheal gonna pop up or where is Micheal and Loomis at?
Actually my very good friend and former host of Rio Theatre's Friday Fright Night Double Features, Miss Gory Rae, once told me that the original plan for the Halloween franchise was to have a bunch of movies called Halloween which were all related to each other in name only. So no continuing storylines with the same characters, etc. Sort of like a "Tales From The Crypt" type thing. None of the stories have anything to do with one another, but they're all "Halloween" movies. But when they made Halloween II a direct continuation of Halloween they ended up shooting themselves in the foot, because when Halloween III came out the fans of the franchise were expecting more of the same. So they went back to the typical sequel formula for Halloween IV. She's a total horror movie buff, even more so than I am, and a former film student, so I'm inclined to believe her. Check out her Facebook profile if you don't believe me. Anyway, just thought I'd throw that little bit of trivia out there for you.
Fresh Prince
08-27-2009, 04:23 PM
This dude was harsh (contains spoilers)...
http://www.avrev.com/theatrical-movie-reviews/theatrical/halloween-ii-2009.html
Hahaha that was funny.
Dude said Mike got beat up by red neck hicks. And gets killed. And none of Mikey killing makes sense. He kills people that have no clue who Laruie is.
Well he does kinda make a point their.
And as for the Mikey being like how he was in Parts 4-6 with that cult thing, I hope thats not true.
And we can agree that chick who plays Laurie is a terrible actor, but for her character all she has to do is scream and yell. And Loomis well he is not old Loomis, nor should be old Loomis, but he can atleast be better character then this crap.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 04:26 PM
Yes you know now that Halloween back then was suppose to be the last, but the people back then didn't know. They hear Halloween and Assume Micheal Myers and Dr. Loomis.
Its something they tried and it failed.
Fresh Prince
08-27-2009, 04:33 PM
And they continued the fail with H4-6 and H8.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 04:42 PM
No I mean beyond the story of Micheal Myers. Not whether people though the storylines "sucked"
Fresh Prince
08-27-2009, 05:03 PM
Well yeah you cannot have a movie titled Halloween and not have Myers and crew in it.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 05:08 PM
I think I'm gonna go watch the first one now. RZ one I mean.
I'm seeing the film on Sunday...and I'll have my review up sometime early next week :up:
Spider-ManHero12
08-27-2009, 05:54 PM
Well yeah you cannot have a movie titled Halloween and not have Myers and crew in it. How so?
^For most people, the "Halloween" series is synonymous with Myers...which made "Season of the Witch" such a cinematic pariah at the time for excluding him.
Fresh Prince
08-27-2009, 05:57 PM
How so?
Look at Season of The Witch. People disliked it cause it had the Halloween title in it.
Look at Season of The Witch. People disliked it cause it had the Halloween title in it.
That was a product of bad marketing. If everyone on board had made it clear that the Halloween movies were supposed to be separate entities, the movie would most likely not have been met with as much hostility.. Plus, it wasn't a great movie on it's own merit anyway.
TwilightPro101
08-27-2009, 06:07 PM
Two SPOILER INTENSIVE Reviews:
http://www.doorq.com/blog.aspx?b=2919
http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_reviews_7062.htm
Spider-ManHero12
08-27-2009, 06:49 PM
Look at Season of The Witch. People disliked it cause it had the Halloween title in it. That's because it was called "Halloween III". I mean, just because a movie has the title "Halloween" in it, it doesn't mean it won't do good.
Fresh Prince
08-27-2009, 06:57 PM
That was a product of bad marketing. If everyone on board had made it clear that the Halloween movies were supposed to be separate entities, the movie would most likely not have been met with as much hostility.. Plus, it wasn't a great movie on it's own merit anyway.
But someone also said on the boards that people wanted Mike and Loomis.
But okay if you say a Halloween movie can work without Micheal, then how about they have another one come out after this one in a few years, but have a different killer, with a different storyline. Not in the same universe. And if marketed good we will see how successful it will be.
Dark Victory
08-27-2009, 07:26 PM
Two SPOILER INTENSIVE Reviews:
http://www.doorq.com/blog.aspx?b=2919
http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_reviews_7062.htm
My god, I wasn't expecting anything after the **** remake, but damn!
Bunker
08-27-2009, 07:32 PM
My god, I wasn't expecting anything after the **** remake, but damn!
Who wasn't expecting this to get thrashed? Everything in the trailers and TV spots was retched.
Booznian
08-27-2009, 07:35 PM
Watching AMC's Halloween marathon right now. God, nothing will ever beat the feel and originality of the original 1978 flick!
The Joker
08-27-2009, 07:39 PM
Two SPOILER INTENSIVE Reviews:
http://www.doorq.com/blog.aspx?b=2919
Wow, I read some of the movie's plot spoilers in this review, and it sounds so bad :csad:
Dark Victory
08-27-2009, 07:42 PM
Who wasn't expecting this to get thrashed? Everything in the trailers and TV spots was retched.
The Apatow Crew...?
I hated the first and couldn't care less for this film, but from what I've heard, Season of the Witch is better.:o
The Original Bamfer
08-27-2009, 07:42 PM
Watching AMC's Halloween marathon right now. God, nothing will ever beat the feel and originality of the original 1978 flick!
Snap! Which one's on?
Bunker
08-27-2009, 07:46 PM
Snap! Which one's on?
The first one. It started at 8, so it's about half over.
Booznian
08-27-2009, 07:50 PM
God the original is just so...GOOD! :up:
Fresh Prince
08-27-2009, 08:07 PM
The original is great man. Nothing will capture the greatness of both the first and second flick.
The Chris
08-27-2009, 08:08 PM
The original Halloween II was on just now on one of the HBO channels as well.
The Original Bamfer
08-27-2009, 08:08 PM
God the original is just so...GOOD! :up:
Yeah, no doubt. When I found out there was a marathon, I knew I had to turn it on. I'm relaxing in a recliner with my laptop watching some Myers goodness. :up:
Booznian
08-27-2009, 08:37 PM
Same, haha! I'm skipping H4 though, for some reason I really HATE that movie.
I just saw a new trailer on AMC that I hadn't seen before for RZHII...there was no showing of Mother Myers, the classic theme was there...I wish the movie actually reflected that trailer though.
Etienne
08-27-2009, 08:52 PM
God the original is just so...GOOD! :up:
I'm watching the original as well. :up:
"Death has come to your little town, Sheriff."
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 08:56 PM
So I see this has turned into a John Carpenters Halloween appreciation thread.:oldrazz:
The Chris
08-27-2009, 08:57 PM
The fact that there isn't any gore in Halloween just makes it more impressive. Carpenter was a genius. I love how he doesn't put too much light on Michael too, because there were some scenes in the original halloween II where michael was in a bright room, and he looked stupid.
And Michael sitting up behind Laurie is still one of the best shots in a horror movie.
Fresh Prince
08-27-2009, 09:00 PM
Yeah I like the sit up scene too. That sit up thing is still used in other stuff like wrestling with Undertaker.
Booznian
08-27-2009, 09:00 PM
Heck yes! JC is god!
Here we go H4 time. <_<
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 09:02 PM
I see Rob is hosting the marathon. They did a similar thing a while ago with him and PJ Soles.
Fresh Prince
08-27-2009, 09:03 PM
Heck yes! JC is god!
Here we go H4 time. <_<
I will watch that tomorrow.
He hosted a showing of Halloween last night on IFC.
-Arya-
08-27-2009, 09:05 PM
Two SPOILER INTENSIVE Reviews:
http://www.doorq.com/blog.aspx?b=2919
http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_reviews_7062.htm
Eeesh! Worse than Resurrection AND season of the witch? I can't believe it.
So I see this has turned into a John Carpenters Halloween appreciation thread.:oldrazz:
We are in the middle of a Halloween marathon on AMC and the original Halloween was just on...what do you expect!?!?! :cmad:
:oldrazz::cwink:
Fresh Prince
08-27-2009, 09:07 PM
We are in the middle of a Halloween marathon on AMC and the original Halloween was just on...what do you expect!?!?! :cmad:
:oldrazz::cwink:
Plus Carpenter's flicks were better.
WompuM
08-27-2009, 09:07 PM
Question: Might be completely wrong but does Michael Meyers have some sort of supernatural healing ability? I remember hearing something like that in my youth but never saw any of the squeals.
Fresh Prince
08-27-2009, 09:10 PM
Question: Might be completely wrong but does Michael Meyers have some sort of supernatural healing ability? I remember hearing something like that in my youth but never saw any of the squeals.
I beleive so he has the thorn curse from parts 406 which requires him to not die.
-Arya-
08-27-2009, 09:10 PM
Question: Might be completely wrong but does Michael Meyers have some sort of supernatural healing ability? I remember hearing something like that in my youth but never saw any of the squeals.
He only does if you count anything other than H1, H2 as part of the mythology.
Plus Carpenter's flicks were better.
I completely agree. :cwink:
The Original Bamfer
08-27-2009, 09:12 PM
Question: Might be completely wrong but does Michael Meyers have some sort of supernatural healing ability? I remember hearing something like that in my youth but never saw any of the squeals.
Well, he must have some supernatural/superhuman power to be able to survive all of the normally-fatal attacks he's received. I don't buy the whole curse garbage, but that probably provides some type of an explanation.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 09:13 PM
A Fun 'Halloween II' Motion Poster to Kick Off Release!
Bloody-Disgusting has scored an exclusive look at a fun little motion poster for Rob Zombie's Halloween II (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/film/1612), which hits theaters tonight at midnight. Just read on and hit play, then embed it wherever you like! It's that time of year again, and Michael Myers has returned home to sleepy Haddonfield, Illinois to take care of some unfinished family business. Unleashing a trail of terror that only horror master Rob Zombie can, Myers will stop at nothing to bring closure to the secrets of his twisted past. But the town’s got an unlikely new hero, if they can only stay alive long enough to stop the unstoppable.
Don't forget to click here (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/17189) to join the ongoing battle between Halloween II and The Final Destination. Who will win the epic face off between the two R-rated franchises?http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/17216
The Original Bamfer
08-27-2009, 09:14 PM
He only does if you count anything other than H1, H2, and H20 as part of the mythology.
So, he survived for twenty years after having been burned, shot and stabbed?
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 09:15 PM
We are in the middle of a Halloween marathon on AMC and the original Halloween was just on...what do you expect!?!?! :cmad:
:oldrazz::cwink:But the way most of these people are talking its like their crapping on RZ and his films.
If you wanna know a movie that was out before Halloween and doesn't get as much credit its Black Christmas.
Fresh Prince
08-27-2009, 09:16 PM
Curse garbage was not need for Micheal to have super natural powers.
-Arya-
08-27-2009, 09:18 PM
So, he survived for twenty years after having been burned, shot and stabbed?
I modified my post. I forgot about the ending of H2.
I only included H20 in it because it was the best since H2, so I felt it deserved recognition.
The Original Bamfer
08-27-2009, 09:19 PM
But the way most of these people are talking its like their crapping on RZ and his films.
Uh, so, just because we say positive things about the originals, that mean's we're 'crapping on' Rob Zombie's films? Dude.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 09:20 PM
Plus Carpenter's flicks were better.Enough already!
Let me ask you? Do you have a thought of your own?
I say that cause you just latch onto other people's opinions. And go yeah I agree with that?
Thats not flaming, i'm just asking a reasonable question.
Fresh Prince
08-27-2009, 09:20 PM
So, he survived for twenty years after having been burned, shot and stabbed?
Yeah he is super human in all the movies.
hitmanyr2k
08-27-2009, 09:20 PM
So, he survived for twenty years after having been burned, shot and stabbed?
One thing I can't stand about H20 is Michael shows up with normal skin and nice blue eyes after the guy was shot and supposedly burned to a crisp in H2. At least H4 made an attempt to give him a burnt look.
The Original Bamfer
08-27-2009, 09:22 PM
I wouldn't mind if they theorized in the films that Michael survived such brutal wounds because he is pure evil. And evil never dies. Or some cliche like that. :o
Fresh Prince
08-27-2009, 09:22 PM
Enough already!
Let me ask you? Do you have a thought of your own?
I say that cause you just latch onto other people's opinions. And go yeah I agree with that?
Thats not flaming, i'm just asking a reasonable question.
I liked Carpenter's better cause it had better acting, and story. It just felt like an instant classic.
Are you sure you don't like Carpenter's better because the majority of people here prefer it? and you want to be in the "cool crowd"?
But the way most of these people are talking its like their crapping on RZ and his films.
If you wanna know a movie that was out before Halloween and doesn't get as much credit its Black Christmas.
I actually wanted to see that in theaters but never got to. I still haven't seen it. :csad:
The Original Bamfer
08-27-2009, 09:34 PM
Wait, is JAL seriously accusing someone of hopping on the bandwagon because they prefer Carpenter's Halloween to Zombie's? Uh. :huh:
JustABill
08-27-2009, 09:34 PM
He's not talking about the remake of Black Christmas I think.
And Bamfer, that was the original title for that retched mess called Halloween: Resurrection, Halloween: Evil Never Dies.
The original Halloween looks fantastic on Blu-ray.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 09:39 PM
Wait, is JAL seriously accusing someone of hopping on the bandwagon because they prefer Carpenter's Halloween to Zombie's? Uh. :huh:No I mean cause he just repeats what everyone else has just said. He doesn't say or agree with something until someone else says it.
But I wouldn't expect you to understand me. Since you're one of the obvious people that hates me in community. Part of Gil's merry men.
JustABill
08-27-2009, 09:39 PM
The original Halloween looks fantastic on Blu-ray.
Hell, it looks fantastic upconverted. There's no need to spend 20 bucks on the Blu Ray. :p
No I mean cause he just repeats what everyone else has just said. He doesn't say or agree with something until someone else says it.
But I wouldn't expect you to understand me. Since you're one of the obvious people that hates me in community. Part of Gil's merry men.
He actually doesn't hate you.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 09:41 PM
He's not talking about the remake of Black Christmas I think.
And Bamfer, that was the original title for that retched mess called Halloween: Resurrection, Halloween: Evil Never Dies.Yes, I was talking about the original. Since it came out 4 years before Halloween came out.
I think the title was Halloween: Homecoming.
Here are all the names from IMDB.
Hall8ween (USA) (working title)
Halloween 8 (USA) (working title)
Halloween H2K (USA) (working title)
Halloween H2K: Evil Never Dies (USA) (working title)
Halloween: Evil Never Dies (USA) (working title)
Halloween: Homecoming (USA) (working title)
Halloween: MichaelMyers.com (USA) (working title)
Halloween: The Homecoming (USA) (working title)
JustABill
08-27-2009, 09:42 PM
Before it was Homecoming, before they had any idea of sembelance of the plot they were calling it Halloween H2K: Evil Never Dies.
I think that might be when they expected it out in 2000 and with Laurie back in a more prominent role again.
The Original Bamfer
08-27-2009, 09:42 PM
No I mean cause he just repeats what everyone else has just said. He doesn't say or agree with something until someone else says it.
But I wouldn't expect you to understand me. Since you're one of the obvious people that hates me in community. Part of Gil's merry men.
Hating you or liking you has nothing to do with understanding.
And, no, I don't hate you. And I'm not a part of Gilpesh's anything. I lead, not follow.
Hell, it looks fantastic upconverted. There's no need to spend 20 bucks on the Blu Ray. :p
$20 is a cheap price for a BD film, at least in Finland (about 14 euros). But hey, used & new from $9.99 at Amazon!
I got Halloween on BD for ten.
The Original Bamfer
08-27-2009, 09:45 PM
Resurrection is the worst subtitle. Well, apart from MichaelMyers.com. :o
JustABill
08-27-2009, 09:47 PM
Resurrection is the worst subtitle. Well, apart from MichaelMyers.com. :o
Yeah that was when the reality show thing first came into the production, I remember laughing my ass off when that title came out.
Episode29
08-27-2009, 09:47 PM
Resurrection is the worst subtitle. Well, apart from MichaelMyers.com. :o
God, I wish they'd have gone with MichaelMyers.com... That would have been awesome.
Gilpesh
08-27-2009, 09:48 PM
I have a band of merry men?
Fresh Prince
08-27-2009, 09:49 PM
I wouldn't mind if they theorized in the films that Michael survived such brutal wounds because he is pure evil. And evil never dies. Or some cliche like that. :o
Agreed can you explain to us why Micheal has super natural powers or is super human. And how he survives these brutal attacks. I been thinking the same exact thing.
The Original Bamfer
08-27-2009, 09:49 PM
I have a band of merry men?
Haha, do you search your name or something?
JustABill
08-27-2009, 09:49 PM
I have a band of merry men?
Apparently so. Now you must re-enact all of Robin Hood: Men in Tights for our viewing pleasure. :hehe:
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 09:50 PM
Yeah that was when the reality show thing first came into the production, I remember laughing my ass off when that title came out.They said they went with the subtitle resurrection to let people know Micheal Myers was still alive.
There are actually some vids online that have the Homecoming title on the film.
Fresh Prince
08-27-2009, 09:50 PM
Are you sure you don't like Carpenter's better because the majority of people here prefer it? and you want to be in the "cool crowd"?
Lol its the internet what cool crowd would I even care to join online eh.
No i like the original Halloween movies cause they a instant classic, with good acting and storylines.
Lol its the internet what cool crowd would I even care to join online eh.
No i like the original Halloween movies cause they a instant classic, with good acting and storylines.
Where did you learn to talk? Damn, I get a headache every time I try to read something you have written.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 09:51 PM
Haha, do you search your name or something?No he's just my shadow and stalking me and saying how much whatever i'm posting in sucks or how I suck.
Gilpesh
08-27-2009, 09:52 PM
Haha, do you search your name or something?
Actually. I checked the H2 thread for the potential of hilarious remake debating. And I wasn't wrong. :hehe:
Apparently so. Now you must re-enact all of Robin Hood: Men in Tights for our viewing pleasure. :hehe:
I might like that movie... but I'm no singer. :o
No he's just my shadow and stalking me and saying how much whatever i'm posting in sucks or how I suck.
Okay, Okay, no he isn't, you're being paranoid. Gilpesh doesn't hate you either.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 09:54 PM
Where did you learn to talk? Damn, I get a headache every time I try to read something you have written.Like I said he's just recycling what others have said.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 09:59 PM
Okay, Okay, no he isn't, you're being paranoid. Gilpesh doesn't hate you either.Thats why he always goes you only like remakes, are you looking for news on remakes. Its the same tired stuff all the time. in that one thread super sweet 16 psycho something. He goes what I thought you like something like this.
Thats why he always goes you only like remakes, are you looking for news on remakes. Its the same tired stuff all the time. in that one thread super sweet 16 psycho something. He goes what I thought you like something like this.
He's just picking on you because you get so angry. It's classic schoolyard tactics. :P
Episode29
08-27-2009, 10:02 PM
Thats why he always goes you only like remakes, are you looking for news on remakes. Its the same tired stuff all the time. in that one thread super sweet 16 psycho something. He goes what I thought you like something like this.
I thought that was a fairly accurate assumption... :word:
Nivek
08-27-2009, 10:06 PM
It's pathetic and annoying IMO. You don't like someone, put them on ignore. Don't follow them around the hype antagonizing people in various threads then play the victim.
I know all about the "This is my opinion" chest thumping excuses, what I see here is lame childish picking. I've had enough, I got so many people on ignore anymore it's kind of silly looking that you only see like 6-10 posts a page, and you can see half of the same argument over and over again.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 10:10 PM
He's just picking on you because you get so angry. It's classic schoolyard tactics. :PI have him on ignore anyway. I only just see his posts when other people quote him.
After watching RZ's Halloween and talking about it and the movies on I think I might see it tomorrow instead of Saturday.
I wonder if he has me on ignore.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 10:17 PM
I know all about the "This is my opinion" chest thumping excuses, what I see here is lame childish picking. I've had enough, I got so many people on ignore anymore it's kind of silly looking that you only see like 6-10 posts a page, and you can see half of the same argument over and over again.Basically when it comes to any horror movie thread alot of people are gonna be coming in saying this sucks and its been done before.
Ironically enough just like their posts.:yay:
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 10:19 PM
I wonder if he has me on ignore.I have a few from the lounge and a few "film critics" from in the movie section.
Fresh Prince
08-27-2009, 10:38 PM
Where did you learn to talk? Damn, I get a headache every time I try to read something you have written.
I'm not talking, i'm posting. Thats freaky if you can hear me talk to you.
Might wanna go check yourself out in a hospital.
JustABill
08-27-2009, 10:53 PM
:facepalm
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 11:01 PM
Halloween 5 is just starting on AMC.
I remember I stayed up to like 4am watching part 6 on AMC.
JustABill
08-27-2009, 11:02 PM
Ah yes Halloween 5, the worst of the sequels not involving witches or webcams.
I loved 4 so much then I was so let down by how much 5 sucked.
If that girl dies tonight!!!!
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 11:09 PM
I thought H5 had some good stuff, i just didn't like the ending or the mysterious guy through out the movie.
Etienne
08-27-2009, 11:10 PM
Does AMC show Halloween 6? I can't remember if I've ever seen it on that station.
I've only seen H6 on HBO and The Movie Channel.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 11:12 PM
Does AMC show Halloween 6? I can't remember if I've ever seen it on that station.Actually they play all of them except RZ halloween.
I seen Halloween 3 on there before and same with 6.
JustABill
08-27-2009, 11:13 PM
I think AMC's only showed 1, 2, 4, and 5 regularly.
And on occassion 3, H20, and Resurrection.
JustABill
08-27-2009, 11:16 PM
Ugh these damn cops and their squeaky comedy noises.
I also hate how they made Rachel out to be such a dumb ***** in this one when she was so entirely competent in part 4.
Kind of like how they had to dumb down Laurie to kill her off at the beginning of Resurrection. :rolleyes:
hitmanyr2k
08-27-2009, 11:16 PM
Always love the guys at spill :funny:
http://my.spill.com/video/halloween-2-unscreened
Etienne
08-27-2009, 11:17 PM
Actually they play all of them except RZ halloween.
I seen Halloween 3 on there before and same with 6.
I think they showed H6 once on Halloween night last year.
Nightmare
08-27-2009, 11:26 PM
:facepalm
Sookie's sexy.
Spider-ManHero12
08-27-2009, 11:27 PM
Actually they play all of them except RZ halloween.
I seen Halloween 3 on there before and same with 6. Agreeed, though, I sitll think H6 is kind of rare ot see on AMC. 4 and 5 seem to AMC's most used.
Spider-ManHero12
08-27-2009, 11:28 PM
Actually they play all of them except RZ halloween.
I seen Halloween 3 on there before and same with 6. Agreeed, though, I sitll think H6 is kind of rare ot see on AMC. 4 and 5 seem to AMC's most used.
-Arya-
08-27-2009, 11:30 PM
Always love the guys at spill :funny:
http://my.spill.com/video/halloween-2-unscreened
Loved it.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 11:31 PM
I think they showed H6 once on Halloween night last year.Yeah, they dust that one off every now and then.
I remember I watched that and the howling in the same night.
I like the AMC horrorfest they have.
Etienne
08-27-2009, 11:43 PM
I enjoyed H6 mainly because of Paul Rudd, Loomis was starting to lose it in that one.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 11:45 PM
I enjoyed H6 mainly because of Paul Rudd, Loomis was starting to lose it in that one.Yes, thats why I like it also.
I still need to find the dvd somewhere.:csad:
JustABill
08-27-2009, 11:48 PM
He died shortly after though, it was probably because of his health.
The Apatow Crew
08-27-2009, 11:50 PM
He died shortly after though, it was probably because of his health.Yeah, he died a little after shooting was finished and yes it was cause of his health.
KnightBat
08-27-2009, 11:52 PM
6 was on AMC last year cause I remember TIVO it cause I had not seen it. As for H20 and Resurrection, FX has the TV rights to those 2.
Etienne
08-27-2009, 11:59 PM
Yes, thats why I like it also.
I still need to find the dvd somewhere.:csad:
They offed Jamie at the beginning of it. :( After all that trouble in H4 and 5 they just get rid of her.
When did Mike get a hold of Rachel?
He died shortly after though, it was probably because of his health.
Just to clarify, what I meant by Loomis "losing it" in H6 was...the character was starting to lose his mind. Correct? It's been a while since I've seen the movie.
After just watching H4 again...I had forgotten how geriatric Michael was with how he moved.
The Apatow Crew
08-28-2009, 12:02 AM
They offed Jamie at the beginning of it. :( After all that trouble in H4 and 5 they just get rid of her.
When did Mike get a hold of Rachel?Well, Danielle Harris wanted too much money to come back and the studio wouldn't so they just changed things and killed her off in spite.
mike killed her in the first 15-20 mins of H5.
TheDreamMaster
08-28-2009, 12:04 AM
Yeah, he died a little after shooting was finished and yes it was cause of his health.
Yeah, there's an "In Memory of" at the end of the film. Honestly, if you've enver seen the PRoducer's Cut of H6, track down a copy. It still doesn't make the movie great, but it sends it, at least for me, from a 3 to a 6.5 at least. Loomis has some great footage that got axed for the theatrical cut, and personally the movie just flows better. Granted there is that incest thing though.
The Apatow Crew
08-28-2009, 12:06 AM
i've seen the producers cut on the web a few years ago.
Major ending changes.
Etienne
08-28-2009, 12:09 AM
Well, Danielle Harris wanted too much money to come back and the studio wouldn't so they just changed things and killed her off in spite.
Really? Didn't know that. I was going to say they seemed to have shift the focus on Jamie in 4 and 5 so I can see how ousting her may not have been apart of the original plan.
TheDreamMaster
08-28-2009, 12:12 AM
i've seen the producers cut on the web a few years ago.
Major ending changes.
Major ending changes indeed, but good one sin my book. Sadly, Donald Pleaseance couldn't continue with what they may have had in store for his character, so I guess it's ok that they changed that.
The Apatow Crew
08-28-2009, 12:19 AM
Really? Didn't know that. I was going to say they seemed to have shift the focus on Jamie in 4 and 5 so I can see how ousting her may not have been apart of the original plan.If she would have been back i'm sure it would have been different.
Major ending changes indeed, but good one sin my book. Sadly, Donald Pleaseance couldn't continue with what they may have had in store for his character, so I guess it's ok that they changed that. heard somewhere that this was suppose to be the loomis's characters final movie. i don't know if that was true or not.
JustABill
08-28-2009, 12:43 AM
After just watching H4 again...I had forgotten how geriatric Michael was with how he moved.
In a way it makes sense though. He'd just woken up out of a long term coma. He'd probably more lethargic and slow. Hell in real life, he wouldn't even be able to walk at all.
In a way it makes sense though. He'd just woken up out of a long term coma. He'd probably more lethargic and slow. Hell in real life, he wouldn't even be able to walk at all.
I can see your point. In real life, he probably would have burned to death though.
Spider-ManHero12
08-28-2009, 01:06 AM
Major ending changes. Indeed, and the ending the producers Cut is creepier, IMO.
CrypticOne
08-28-2009, 03:35 AM
Just got back from it. It was alright.
Parts that I didn't like:
They changed the kid from the first one. That just got on my nerves for some reason.
The mom and young Michael are in the movie, like all the time.
What I liked:
The kills. Brutal.
All in all this is a good film/sequel.
Nivek
08-28-2009, 07:34 AM
Got tickets for 6:15 tonight...
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 11:34 AM
Major ending changes indeed, but good one sin my book. Sadly, Donald Pleaseance couldn't continue with what they may have had in store for his character, so I guess it's ok that they changed that.
They proably would of killed him off. He was too old to battle Micheal anyways.
The Lizard
08-28-2009, 12:38 PM
My rating: 4/10 :down
Director Rob Zombie goes for a hallucinogenic, nightmarish approach to his continuing vision of the classic "Halloween" series, but the jarring, disjointed structure eventually becomes tiresome. 4/10
Zombie has definitely gone off in his own direction with his versions of the Halloween films, and that's certainly preferable to making a rote, by-the-numbers remake. Perhaps the problem is that the source material (meaning the original 1978 "Halloween" and its 1981 sequel) is so basic and brutally effective in its presentation that trying to add a back story or layers of dreamlike psychoanalysis to the Michael Myers story only serves to muddy the waters.
The 1970s atmosphere of Zombie's 2007 "Halloween" is abandoned here, as we see flat-screen TVs, modern cars and even a reference to comedian Mike Myers. In parts, it seems as if it is the concept of Michael Myers that's being explored in the film instead of the actions of the character. Ultimately this just isn't enough to propel the story or truly deliver the scares. File this one away as an experimental slasher film where the experiment wasn't successful.
The Joker
08-28-2009, 12:42 PM
And the negative reviews keep on coming....
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/movies/orl-movie-review-h2-halloween-2,0,4844345.story (1 out 5 stars)
http://www.ktka.com/news/2009/aug/28/49_movie_review_halloween_ii/ (mixed, though overall negative)
http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=28285 (mostly negative)
Poetic Chaos
08-28-2009, 12:59 PM
Laurie was just too damn annoying throughout the whole the movie. The only moment that had any impact was Annie's death.
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 01:26 PM
Loomis gets killed in this flick. Micheal stabs him in the face numerous times. Painful way to die, but the bastard deserved it.
Laurie of course becomes crazy at the end and the Halloween 4 shocking ending was right. Rather they had Micheal kill her.
Also its safe to say Micheal is not dead, man was shot by shot guns numerous times and shot in the head by Laure. So he has to still be alive.
Overall okay movie, first was better.
Overall the reboot franchise was okay.
Nivek
08-28-2009, 01:59 PM
I'm dissapointed that Jimmy O. didn't like it, but oh well.
The Orlando Sentinel review, c'mon people.... it's a Slasher Flick, you really, honestly believe a newspaper review is going to give it a good review? Especially douche Michael Moore?
Poetic Chaos
08-28-2009, 02:54 PM
I hope Platinum Dunes gets a shot at this down the line.
Nivek
08-28-2009, 03:17 PM
I hope Platinum Dunes gets a shot at this down the line.
I despise Dimension, and I agree. I like where they went with TCM and F13, some of the other properties, not so much...
CaptainStacy
08-28-2009, 03:18 PM
Just got back.
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(do NOT read any further if you dont want spoilers)
Seriously. :yay:
One of the things i've noticed about Rob's films is...it usually takes me at least a second and occasionally a THIRD viewing for everything to sink in. With that in mind, i came away from my initial viewing thinking his latest venture was....interesting.
The first half of the film didnt really grab me. Like others have mentioned, mother Myers and son are used ad nauseum...in fact, i really think only the first and definitely the LAST time they appeared were the only times really nescessary. One of the things that really disappointed me was that the entire hospital scene turned out to be a dream. I thought the brutal murder of the nurse was one of the coolest violent deaths i've seen in any horror film in a LONG time. The death of the security guard was also quite effectual....but then it's all rendered moot by the fact that in was all in Laurie's head....the other kills, the three rednecks and the strip club employees came off as pretty generic...i mean, as soon as Michael appears you KNOW these guys are history. The trick IS, to present their demises in a new an interesting manner. Instead we get the obligatory stabbings, impalments, head beatings, etc.,(although the face-stomping was kinda cool)....nothing that hasn't been done to death already (if you'll pardon the pun)....that, and the fact that Carpenter's original music, which has, in my opinion, become as iconic to the franchise as the main character's chalky white mask, was no where to be found until the very end seemed somewhat criminal to me....
Second half is when Rob finally kicks things into high gear. i really REALLY loved the scene where the distraught father confronts Loomis at the book signing. Thought that was extremely well done. Rob's use of classic rock throughout the film fits like a warm mitten on a cold winter's night...(i guess that's a given, considering his twenty-odd years of expierience in the music industry)..his cinematography continues to gain in excellence. It was personally GREAT for me to see the town of nearby Covington and Netherworld Haunted House here in Atlanta used so effectively, especially since i have spent REAL Halloweens in both of those places :word: The lighting and shadowing techniques he uses are STELLAR and work wonderfully to create a very spooky mood and atmosphere....
Another highlight of the second half was Annie's death. Both Rob as a director, and Danielle as an actress knock this one right out of the freaking ball park, imo...i love how he slows the camera down, and we dont SEE what is happening...we HEAR it. Then of course, we get to see it in flashback, and Danielle really made me believe she was dying a slow, painful death. Hat's off to a VERY under-rated actress. :applaud...
Pretty much ALL the main characters did a good job. Scout, Brad, Malcolm...all were in fine form, imo....
Although the film's ending seemed a bit lackluster (Loomis' death, perhaps the most pointless since Dick Hallorann in The movie version of The Shining?) and predictable (saw the ending coming a mile away)...the final scene intrigued me enough to not mind if the cast and crew come back for one more sequel...
i have to let this sink in a bit, and check it out again in the near future, but as of right now:
6 1/2 out of 10
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 03:31 PM
I hope Platinum Dunes gets a shot at this down the line.
I wouldl ove that too. I mean I thought RZH movies were overall okay, but they can be done way better then this and be great movies.
FilmNerdJamie
08-28-2009, 03:38 PM
After Spill's audio review (http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/halloween-2-audio-review), I have to see it.
strikezone89
08-28-2009, 03:41 PM
well i saw it at a midnight showing last night.... I found this movie very enjoyable. I thought it was a took slasher flick and i LOVED how Zombie showed how Michael was f*c*ked up mentally with all the hallucinations. The ending was I must say very cool it kinda left it off where it is possible to do a sequel. Overall if this is the last of the reboot series i give it a b+....
Spider-ManHero12
08-28-2009, 03:46 PM
Tbh, I really did like the movie, but it was a step down from the remake. Still very enjoyable though.
6.5/10
Also, I'll be writing a full review later tonight.
The Dark Defender
08-28-2009, 03:55 PM
Considering the reactions even from those that loved the remake...I'm really expecting an epic train wreck out of this.
Spider-ManHero12
08-28-2009, 03:58 PM
^^ Tbh, I enjoyed the movie ,as I said. It's a fun ride, and you bet your ass that it's scary. However, it doesn't feel as "Michael Myers-ish" as the remake does.
Nightmare
08-28-2009, 04:01 PM
Was disappointed, expected more. Thought the first was better. Started off pretty good, then just got worse. Loomis is a douche bag. Thought the whole thing with his mom was lame. 6/10
The Dark Defender
08-28-2009, 04:02 PM
Yeah, I know you enjoyed it, but the people I'm reading comments from here and elsewhere that love the remake are consistently giving this "I kinda liked it but it doesn't compare to the remake" comments, or just plain hating it.
If that's how people that liked the remake feel about this, imagine how people that hated it are going to feel...
I was expecting this to be better than the remake, but still bad, I'm no longer expecting to be better than the remake.
Spider-ManHero12
08-28-2009, 04:02 PM
Something tells we'll be getting ALOOOT of deleted scenes on the DVD.
CaptainStacy
08-28-2009, 04:05 PM
Loomis is a douche bag.
Lol, ya think? :woot:
Lunar_Wolf
08-28-2009, 04:05 PM
There is no release date for here, so a few q's
Does Myer's dawn a new mask? How does it look?
Do you get more character development from Michael?
The Chris
08-28-2009, 04:05 PM
I have a question. Is the Halloween theme in it?
Spider-ManHero12
08-28-2009, 04:07 PM
^^ At the end credits.
Spider-ManHero12
08-28-2009, 04:08 PM
One of my favorite scenes is when Linda's father confronts Loomis at the book signing. Pretty intense, IMO.
strikezone89
08-28-2009, 04:10 PM
There is no release date for here, so a few q's
Does Myer's dawn a new mask? How does it look?
Do you get more character development from Michael?
1. no its the same mask but i believe the right side of his mask gets ripped off by a victim
2. i dunno if its development but you see what drives michael to do what he does, and u see how mentally fooked him and his family is
strikezone89
08-28-2009, 04:13 PM
One of my favorite scenes is when Linda's father confronts Loomis at the book signing. Pretty intense, IMO.
yeah that was a pretty good scene... but my fav. was when they were in the strip joint the hole segment in the club was funny to me
Spider-ManHero12
08-28-2009, 04:15 PM
yeah that was a pretty good scene... but my fav. was when they were in the strip joint the hole segment in the club was funny to me Yeah, that madem e giggle, lol. "Jolly green giant", lol. :woot:
CaptainStacy
08-28-2009, 04:17 PM
One of my favorite scenes is when Linda's father confronts Loomis at the book signing. Pretty intense, IMO.
Agreed.
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 04:26 PM
well i saw it at a midnight showing last night.... I found this movie very enjoyable. I thought it was a took slasher flick and i LOVED how Zombie showed how Michael was f*c*ked up mentally with all the hallucinations. The ending was I must say very cool it kinda left it off where it is possible to do a sequel. Overall if this is the last of the reboot series i give it a b+....
I would not mind a sequel but doubt Zombie will do it.
The Lizard
08-28-2009, 04:29 PM
It was personally GREAT for me to see the town of nearby Covington and Netherworld Haunted House here in Atlanta used so effectively, especially since i have spent REAL Halloweens in both of those places
Those of us who were extras in the Phantom Jam party scenes were all pretty disappointed at how little of the crowd was shown during those parts. The scenes went by so quick that I only recognized a couple people (a zombie clown and a girl with goat horns).
Overall, the final movie seemed like Zombie filmed a bunch of random scenes and then didn't know what to do with them in the end.
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 04:35 PM
Those of us who were extras in the Phantom Jam party scenes were all pretty disappointed at how little of the crowd was shown during those parts. The scenes went by so quick that I only recognized a couple people (a zombie clown and a girl with goat horns).
Overall, the final movie seemed like Zombie filmed a bunch of random scenes and then didn't know what to do with them in the end.
That must of sucked.
sandmjuggalos
08-28-2009, 04:37 PM
Tbh, I really did like the movie, but it was a step down from the remake. Still very enjoyable though.
6.5/10
Also, I'll be writing a full review later tonight.
For some reason, i'm having trouble understanding this.
Which remake of what movie? Halloween or Halloween 2?
Was it supposed to mirror the original, in your opinion? That would have just sucked to the nTH degree.
Guess i'm going to the movies tonight.....
CaptainStacy
08-28-2009, 04:42 PM
Those of us who were extras in the Phantom Jam party scenes were all pretty disappointed at how little of the crowd was shown during those parts. The scenes went by so quick that I only recognized a couple people (a zombie clown and a girl with goat horns).
Overall, the final movie seemed like Zombie filmed a bunch of random scenes and then didn't know what to do with them in the end.
I didnt find out they were filming in Covington until late that Friday night...we were going to go that Saturday but it started snowing like a *****. (do you recall that?) I had to work during the Netherworld shoot so all in all, i missed out on everything! :cmad:
Did you get to see any of the main actors?
Spider-ManHero12
08-28-2009, 04:43 PM
For some reason, i'm having trouble understanding this.
Which remake of what movie? Halloween or Halloween 2? The remake of Halloween (1978).
im gonna see the movie monday when its cheaper lol but whats the deal with the 3 masks? please explain. i love spoilers.
bullets
08-28-2009, 05:25 PM
Although I think Zombie is great I would like to see someone else take over this series and bring back the Michael Myers I remember.
The Lizard
08-28-2009, 05:26 PM
Did you get to see any of the main actors?
Oh yeah -- we shot the Phantom Jam party stuff way out in Newborn GA over two days. Zombie of course was there, as was Tyler Mane, Scout Taylor-Compton, Brea Grant and the girl who was dressed like Dr Frankenfurter. Also the kid who played young Michael was there with his mom.
Tyler was the only one who ate meals in the same tent with the crew and us extras.
I thought I had a good chance at being in the film due to being in several key scenes. At one point Scout (dressed as Magenta from Rocky Horror) stumbled drunkenly right into me and steadied herself on my shoulder. There was all kinds of music and dialog shot for those Phantom Jam scenes and none of it got used. Quite a waste. Maybe on the DVD, eh?
Etienne
08-28-2009, 05:38 PM
Is this supposed to be the last installment for Zombie's Halloween movies?
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 05:40 PM
Although I think Zombie is great I would like to see someone else take over this series and bring back the Michael Myers I remember.
Yeah me too. Who would you want? I say they should wait 10 years for a reboot. I say bring back the Micheal Myers, Dr. Loomis and Laurie I knew lol.
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 05:41 PM
So is this supposed to be the last installment for Zombie's Halloween movies?
Maybe. I heard he only did this, so he can do a movie he really wanted to do. So I say maybe, then again someone esle could come in and just continue what Zombie done.
CaptainStacy
08-28-2009, 05:48 PM
Oh yeah -- we shot the Phantom Jam party stuff way out in Newborn GA over two days. Zombie of course was there, as was Tyler Mane, Scout Taylor-Compton, Brea Grant and the girl who was dressed like Dr Frankenfurter. Also the kid who played young Michael was there with his mom.
Tyler was the only one who ate meals in the same tent with the crew and us extras.
I thought I had a good chance at being in the film due to being in several key scenes. At one point Scout (dressed as Magenta from Rocky Horror) stumbled drunkenly right into me and steadied herself on my shoulder. There was all kinds of music and dialog shot for those Phantom Jam scenes and none of it got used. Quite a waste. Maybe on the DVD, eh?
Maybe, lol.
Did you get any autographs?
Aesop Rocks
08-28-2009, 06:14 PM
Hahahahahaha, 21% on RT.
Dugath
08-28-2009, 06:18 PM
Me and the GF saw this movie today.
I have to say I did not mind the first one.. (not loved).. but it was good enough for me to go, okay it wasn't that bad and I would see it again.
Halloween 2 though..
I disliked it. Honestly there is nothing I really liked about the film. It seems all R.Zombie tries to do is see how many times he can get the word FU*K in. I challenge someone to count how many times it is said in this movie. I am guessing around 50-70 times?
They there were un-needed scenes The whole strip club scene, what was the point of that.
R.Zombie also seems to like to fill each of his movies with people who seem to belong in the 70's. I really do not understand.
Anything that has R.Zombie attached to it I have no hopes for anymore. His films are just not that good, I now wish someone else did the Halloween's
Aesop Rocks
08-28-2009, 06:21 PM
Yeah, my friend was a HARDCORE Rob Zombie Halloween fan and he came back in tears saying how bad it was.
Nightmare
08-28-2009, 06:25 PM
Wow, that's not a good sign. I really wanted to like this and expected so much more. :(
Now where does the franchise go?
I wouldnt be suprised at all to see TFD beat this out especially with its gimmicky 3D.
I won't see "Halloween 2" until Sunday, but I'm sure I'll enjoy it...
why?
Because whenever the collective masses b*tch about how much they hate a movie or how bad it is before I see it, it usually turns out their bashing is just premature overreacting and it's never as bad as they claim...ever...
EVER.
Thundarr
08-28-2009, 06:28 PM
I know it's going to be crap compared to the original, but I bought a ticket anyway. I just wish I had enough points to see it for free, but I used my points to see G.I. Joe.
Aesop Rocks
08-28-2009, 06:30 PM
My friend worshiped, literally worshiped this movie until it came out.
Now he refuses to talk about it.
The Lizard
08-28-2009, 06:37 PM
Maybe, lol.
Did you get any autographs?
Nah - they strongly discourage that kind of thing when you're a paid extra, and I'm not really into autographs anyway.
BTW, just in case I somehow missed seeing myself in the movie I would be in the crowd in the band-playing club scenes wearing a white labcoat, black rubber gloves and a big "X" shaped scar on my face. :oldrazz:
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 06:39 PM
Yeah, my friend was a HARDCORE Rob Zombie Halloween fan and he came back in tears saying how bad it was.
:hehe: Movie was not that bad. But like some people said in 10 years I like a reboot with a different director.
My friend worshiped, literally worshiped this movie until it came out.
Well that's a pretty big mistake on his part...why would anyone worship any film without even seeing it? Regardless of how many times they see a trailer...
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 06:55 PM
Me and the GF saw this movie today.
I have to say I did not mind the first one.. (not loved).. but it was good enough for me to go, okay it wasn't that bad and I would see it again.
Halloween 2 though..
I disliked it. Honestly there is nothing I really liked about the film. It seems all R.Zombie tries to do is see how many times he can get the word FU*K in. I challenge someone to count how many times it is said in this movie. I am guessing around 50-70 times?
They there were un-needed scenes The whole strip club scene, what was the point of that.
R.Zombie also seems to like to fill each of his movies with people who seem to belong in the 70's. I really do not understand.
Anything that has R.Zombie attached to it I have no hopes for anymore. His films are just not that good, I now wish someone else did the Halloween's
Maybe Zombie likes that 1970s atmosphere.
Maybe Zombie likes that 1970s atmosphere.
That's around when he was in his teens so that will have a big influence and his band White Zombie was heavy influenced as well with a 70's style, at least with the album La Sexorcisto.
He's said in past interviews that he just loves a lot of the 70's.
Dugath
08-28-2009, 07:21 PM
That's well and good. But there is a time and place to include that stuff in a movie. To me it just did not sit well in this movie.
Anyways, I just do not think this was a very good movie. I wanted it to be. I was hoping it would be better than the first..
BTW how does M.M seem to know where to exactly find certain people.. his ghost mommy I suppose.. the vision that him and his sister share.. anyone else think at the end that room she was in was kinda big lol... oh remember count how many times people use the F word.. I don't wanna pay again to count.
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 07:48 PM
That's around when he was in his teens so that will have a big influence and his band White Zombie was heavy influenced as well with a 70's style, at least with the album La Sexorcisto.
He's said in past interviews that he just loves a lot of the 70's.
He could of just had the movie take place in the 70s then. Cause people in the 2000s do not do that stuff anymore.
Need a modern day Micheal Myers, not a retro Micheal Myers lol. Zombie still the man though. It was a interesting ride. Now its time for someone esle to come in.
I would like Tarantino to do the reboot franchise in 10 years.
^Rob may be influenced by the 70s, but his original "Halloween" wasn't branded with a distinct timeframe...
And since the masked, knife weilding psycho killer has pretty much become an archetype unto itself (thanks primarily to Myers himself)... how 'modern' can you really make Michael Myers? How 'retro' has he been?
Michael's as timeless, IMO, as Dracula and the Wolfman.
That's well and good. But there is a time and place to include that stuff in a movie. To me it just did not sit well in this movie.
Well seeings how it was his movie, that pretty much gives him free reign to include as much 70s aesthetic as he wants...I'm also fairly certain he couldn't care less if it didn't sit well with anyone else, so long as he makes the film he wants to make...which is the whole point anyway.
Seriously, when the problem you have with the film is the director's visual and cultural prerogative...that's just ridiculous, IMO.
Because say you have that issue with a film, then turn around and make a film inspired by and deeply rooted in a time frame, decade or whatever that YOU'RE passionate about...are you really gonna give a damn about people saying they didn't like that angle?
No...you're gonna do what YOU love.
Props to Rob for not pulling a 'Halloween: Resurrection' and just churning out some cheap imitation product...and instead doing what he, as a filmmaker, wanted to do.
Nivek
08-28-2009, 07:49 PM
Just got back, all I gotta say if you didn't like the first one and want carbon copies of Carpenters Halloween film repeated over and over again, just skip it. It's a sequel to Rob's Halloween, and ties up everything. No more sequels with Michael in the world Rob made.
It's also a lot more ethereal than what I expected, and while on my first viewing I wasn't sold on the "Ghosts/ Laurie" thing, I gotta admit it was different than almost every Slasher sequel/ remake I have seen. The white horse deal was explained from the get go, and like I said months ago, it was all in Laurie and Michael's head. also, people were saying the theme wasn't in the film till the end, but the classic stalk beats are there.
They also made the point to establish that Laurie knew Michael was her brother, and to point out that after having a brush with Michael, alcoholism is just one of the psych issues you get. Laurie was acting out, and her slightly obnoxious friends were typical Slasher knife fodder.
But overall, it was a beautifully shot film (it actually looked like Autumn), the kills were brutal and violent and top notch (especially the nurse kill and bouncer head stomp), just is going to be more over people heads than they want. It's not a predictable carbon copy, so most people are gonna be like "It baad, me no understand".
7/10
Nivek
08-28-2009, 07:53 PM
My friend worshiped, literally worshiped this movie until it came out.
Now he refuses to talk about it.
Well, he obviously wanted a different film than what was seen in the trailer's. Sucks to be that delusional. As CFE said, it wasn't a typical slasher sequel that repeats the same stuff from the first film.
I still prefer his remake, but this is a bookend to that film.
Spider-ManHero12
08-28-2009, 07:59 PM
I can gaurantee people are going to start comparing this to Halloween Ressurection when really, Halloween II (2009) is WAY better than Ressurection.
I may go see this tonight.. I haven't decided.
Nivek
08-28-2009, 08:01 PM
This was no where near the pile of crap that Resurrection was. No rappers kicking Michael's *** to be seen.
Spider-ManHero12
08-28-2009, 08:01 PM
^^ You should, SsM. It really is a fun ride.
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 08:02 PM
I can gaurantee people are going to start comparing this to Halloween Ressurection when really, Halloween II (2009) is WAY better than Ressurection.
Who would compare them two films?
This was no where near the pile of crap that Resurrection was. No rappers kicking Michael's *** to be seen.
Well that's good, though I like Busta.
^^ You should, SsM. It really is a fun ride.
I'm debating it, I have to work early tomorrow morning. I'll probably end up going, I kind of wanted a shorter movie though.
Spider-ManHero12
08-28-2009, 08:03 PM
Fans who endlessly complain, Fresh Prince.
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 08:05 PM
]^Rob may be influenced by the 70s, but his original "Halloween" wasn't branded with a distinct timeframe...[/B]
And since the masked, knife weilding psycho killer has pretty much become an archetype unto itself (thanks primarily to Myers himself)... how 'modern' can you really make Michael Myers? How 'retro' has he been?
Michael's as timeless, IMO, as Dracula and the Wolfman.
Well seeings how it was his movie, that pretty much gives him free reign to include as much 70s aesthetic as he wants...I'm also fairly certain he couldn't care less if it didn't sit well with anyone else, so long as he makes the film he wants to make...which is the whole point anyway.
Seriously, when the problem you have with the film is the director's visual and cultural prerogative...that's just ridiculous, IMO.
Because say you have that issue with a film, then turn around and make a film inspired by and deeply rooted in a time frame, decade or whatever that YOU'RE passionate about...are you really gonna give a damn about people saying they didn't like that angle?
No...you're gonna do what YOU love.
Props to Rob for not pulling a 'Halloween: Resurrection' and just churning out some cheap imitation product...and instead doing what he, as a filmmaker, wanted to do.
Micheal may be timeless like Dracula and the Wolfman, but are you saying Zombie's movie itself as awhole has that ''timeless'' atmosphere to it?
I mean I do not see ''timeless'' atmosphere in Haddonfield. What is ''timeless'' is what Burton's Gotham City was. Now that was ''timeless''.
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 08:06 PM
Fans who endlessly complain, Fresh Prince.
Oh okay, cause it was not bad, but not good either. It was average.
Nivek
08-28-2009, 08:06 PM
eh, till he finds another flick to Troll. This is what, the 2nd flick he has been haunting?
No, Burton's Gotham was not timeless at all.
Spider-ManHero12
08-28-2009, 08:07 PM
I'm debating it, I have to work early tomorrow morning. I'll probably end up going, I kind of wanted a shorter movie though. Meh, it's not extremely long. Just about 2 hours, I think.
hitmanyr2k
08-28-2009, 08:12 PM
This was no where near the pile of crap that Resurrection was. No rappers kicking Michael's *** to be seen.
It's funny that you should say this. One of the two friends I used as guinea pigs for this movie texted me after it was over and said "I need to watch HR to get the bad taste of H2 out of my mouth" :funny:
The many comments and reviews have piqued my curiosity to see the trainwreck. I may have to go see this with the "Friday the 13th Part 5 unintentional comedy" mindset. The only problem is the way it sounds I'm going to have a hard time convincing those said friends to go back to the theaters with me for a matinee.
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 08:15 PM
No way this movie was worst then HR.
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 08:17 PM
No, Burton's Gotham was not timeless at all.
Yes, it was a fantasy like city.
Nivek
08-28-2009, 08:23 PM
It's funny that you should say this. One of the two friends I used as guinea pigs for this movie texted me after it was over and said "I need to watch HR to get the bad taste of H2 out of my mouth" :funny:
I hope that was a misguided attempt at humor. While it wasn't the next step in Slasher cinema, it wasn't the wad of dog **** Resurrection was. But hey, I'd be lying if I said I expected this to go over well.
The Joker
08-28-2009, 08:23 PM
Someone should get the moderators to add a rating poll to this thread.
Episode29
08-28-2009, 08:25 PM
No way this movie was worst then HR.
I agree. Resurrection blew, but this flick was physically and mentally punishing to endure.
Yes, it was a fantasy like city.
That has nothing to do with it's timelessness.
Nivek
08-28-2009, 08:30 PM
Someone should get the moderators to add a rating poll to this thread.
Why bother, this thread is Troll infested enough.
hitmanyr2k
08-28-2009, 08:32 PM
I hope that was a misguided attempt at humor. While it wasn't the next step in Slasher cinema, it wasn't the wad of dog **** Resurrection was. But hey, I'd be lying if I said I expected this to go over well.
He hates HR so saying he needs to watch HR means we need to watch a bad horror movie so we can laugh and ridicule it to death to make him feel better. I doubt he means H2 is worse than H:R. Then again, maybe he does...hell, I don't know :funny: I'll find out soon enough though.
Episode29
08-28-2009, 08:34 PM
Why bother, this thread is Troll infested enough.
Is there any motive behind capitalizing the word "troll"?
Just bout Tickets for it, Hope it's not too too bad.
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 08:36 PM
I agree. Resurrection blew, but this flick was physically and mentally punishing to endure.
It was alright to sit through. Some fun moments some bad moments.
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 08:39 PM
That has nothing to do with it's timelessness.
It was, Gotham City in Burton's flicks was ageless and eternal. You did not know what time period they was in, had a mix of 1920s-40s and also 1980s.
Nivek
08-28-2009, 08:40 PM
He hates HR so saying he needs to watch HR means we need to watch a bad horror movie so we can laugh and ridicule it to death to make him feel better. I doubt he means H2 is worse than H:R. Then again, maybe he does...hell, I don't know :funny: I'll find out soon enough though.
Your a Crow fan so you'll respect this. I went to see City of Angels with a group of people back in 1996, like 3 people I knew and two tag-alongs. Needless to say, out of the 5 of us, we actually had one punker guy say it was better than the first film, and closer to the tone of the GN than the first film. I thought he was kidding for the first 10 minutes. Then right before we got back to our apartment building, I realized he was actually f'ing serious.
CrypticOne
08-28-2009, 08:51 PM
I read somewhere that Michael, the grown-up, was supposed to say a word in this movie. I didn't catch it though. Anyone know of that?
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 08:53 PM
I read somewhere that Michael, the grown-up, was supposed to say a word in this movie. I didn't catch it though. Anyone know of that?
I don't think he did.
I read somewhere that Michael, the grown-up, was supposed to say a word in this movie. I didn't catch it though. Anyone know of that?
It was something for RZH. They didn't go through with it.
Episode29
08-28-2009, 08:55 PM
I read somewhere that Michael, the grown-up, was supposed to say a word in this movie. I didn't catch it though. Anyone know of that?
I only remember him grunting and growling.
I don't think he did.
Have you even seen the movie? I think you would be able to remember something like Michael Myers TALKING, having seen the film less than 24 hours ago.
So, I call ******** on you, kid.
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 09:01 PM
Have you even seen the movie? I think you would be able to remember something like Michael Myers TALKING, having seen the film less than 24 hours ago.
So, I call ******** on you, kid.
No, I have not seen the film.
No, I have not seen the film.
._. You said earlier that it was OK.
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Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 09:03 PM
._. You said earlier that it was OK.
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I read the storyline/plot online and also read the spoilers from what other people said. By the sounds of it movie is okay.
No, Burton's Gotham was not timeless at all.
So what year/decade do both "Batman" and "Batman Returns" take place in then?
Looking at the aesthetic design of Gotham in both, I could never tell...but since you can, I'd be happy to know...
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 09:09 PM
So what year/decade do both "Batman" and "Batman Returns" take place in then?
None cause its timeless. Has an ageless feel to it.
C. Lee
08-28-2009, 09:14 PM
I read the storyline/plot online and also read the spoilers from what other people said. By the sounds of it movie is okay.
But you spcificly worded your posts to make it seem that you had seen it. How many warnings is it going to take before you learn to be careful what you post?
None cause its timeless. Has an ageless feel to it.
I rest my case, SsM...
Fresh Prince
08-28-2009, 09:18 PM
But you spcificly worded your posts to make it seem that you had seen it. How many warnings is it going to take before you learn to be careful what you post?
Hey C Lee how you doing. Have not seen you in awhile, but anyways yeah I never said I saw the movie though.
The Apatow Crew
08-28-2009, 09:23 PM
I'm gonna go see this tomorrow with my two cousins after work.
ok i will ask this again. what was the deal with zombie saying there were going to be 3 masks? someone care to explain.
edit: i have not seen the movie yet i just want to be spoiled.
He could of just had the movie take place in the 70s then. Cause people in the 2000s do not do that stuff anymore.
Need a modern day Micheal Myers, not a retro Micheal Myers lol. Zombie still the man though. It was a interesting ride. Now its time for someone esle to come in.
I would like Tarantino to do the reboot franchise in 10 years.
What do you mean by "people in the 2000s do not do that stuff anymore"?
I ask because I haven't seen his sequel yet and was wondering if you can put in spoilers if necessary what you are referring to.
Spider-ManHero12
08-28-2009, 09:25 PM
Anybody here laugh at how "mean" Loomis was, lol? He was awesome, lol.
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