'H2', Rob Zombie's sequel to 'Halloween'

[ABleedingCorpse]

For me, the original Halloween series ends with H2O.


Well good thing we're not dealing with the Original, now aren't we?

[Nivek]

H20 was far worse than Zombies remake. It was a vanity project for JLC.

[Majik1387]

H20 was far worse than Zombies remake. It was a vanity project for JLC.
I thought it was majorly better than Zombie's Halloween.

[Jackasscoley15]

H20 was far worse than Zombies remake. It was a vanity project for JLC.

I've gotta agree with this. As much as I despise Zombie's Halloween, I respect that it tried to do something different with the material. I think it took brass balls to do what he did, which is more than I can say for any of the original sequel's creative teams, who seemed more occupied with riding the coat tails of the original's success.

[The Joker]

H20 was far worse than Zombies remake. It was a vanity project for JLC.

Don't agree with that at all. H20 took Halloween back to it's roots. Back to Michael vs Laurie Strode. Back to Michael simply being an evil entity trying to kill his family.

Prior to H20 the Halloween franchise had lost itself in a bunch of bull crap about some cult called Thorn that was obsessed with Michael.

[Sawyer]

For me, the original Halloween series ends with H2O.

Indeed. But then it got raped to death by Ressurection.

[Nivek]

Sorry, if you think H20 has any serious validity to the series, explain why Michael showed up 20 years later wearing the jumpsuit and mask.

[The Joker]

Sorry, if you think H20 has any serious validity to the series, explain why Michael showed up 20 years later wearing the jumpsuit and mask.

I don't care why Michael waited 20 years. Same reason why I don't care why he waited 15 years instead of 14 ,or 16, or 18 years before escaping the sanitarium in the original movie.

Same reason why I don't care why we don't know what made Michael become the way he is. Evil and it's actions don't always need an explanation.

[Johnny Drama]

For me, the original Halloween series ends with H2O.


The original Halloween series ends with Halloween 2.

Halloween 3 not in cannon, Halloween 4-6 Friday The 13th knock-offs and 7-8 are Scream-wannabees that pretend 4-6 never even happened.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Sorry, if you think H20 has any serious validity to the series, explain why Michael showed up 20 years later wearing the jumpsuit and mask.

When I watched H20, the movie I really wanted to see was the one of Michael just driving cross country and getting into miss-adventures. I'm just curious, when Michael was driving, did he take highways and interstates? And if so...anyone wonder what the hell was up with the guy in the mask driving a rundown car?

Granted, I liked H20, I found it to be entertaining and enjoyable in a Halloween film...I however felt that he next sequal Resurrection just was horrible to the core. That killed the franchise. Yeah, 'curse' was horrible also....but it at least made a bit more sense than Resurection did.

So after all that, and Zombie (who I like) picked up the Halloween films I was excited and I really liked (didn't love it) what he did with it. I'm looking forward to what he has planned for the sequal.

But let's just really put this out there....this is a slasher/horror film...about Michael Myers...a simple simple story...it's not the Holy Bible or The Great Gatsby...people who are taking this to heart are very very sad and empty people. You need better things in life than to moan about how a film is being remade and in your sad empty eyes..ruined (news flash...JC's Halloween didn't go anywhere!!). You can like, dislike, love or hate a film all you want...that's fair...but to put things out there as if your life is falling apart and that your childhood memory of a character is being changed is changing the world.....if you do that...please...seek help because you have nothing in life to live for except constant disappointment.

[Johnny Drama]

When I watched H20, the movie I really wanted to see was the one of Michael just driving cross country and getting into miss-adventures. I'm just curious, when Michael was driving, did he take highways and interstates? And if so...anyone wonder what the hell was up with the guy in the mask driving a rundown car?
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I always thought about that!!!
And how did Jason get back to Camp Crystal Lake after Jason Takes Manhatten? I mean, he goes to New York, does he take a plain back to new york for F13 part 9? It just makes no sense...:csad:

[ABleedingCorpse]

I always thought about that!!!
And how did Jason get back to Camp Crystal Lake after Jason Takes Manhatten? I mean, he goes to New York, does he take a plain back to new york for F13 part 9? It just makes no sense...:csad:

It's little stupid things like this that get me thinking about horror films and how illogical things become. Jason going back to Crystal Lake was a brain sctracher. I'm just left to assume he walked back...after of course, being turned back into a mutated zombie hybred adult with a NEW mask that has also graphed to his oversized head.

Michael driving cross country....there's a freaking movie right there. Obviously, they could have made that movie instead of Resurection. Canonball run meets Halloween....that would be more watchable.

It's just stupid thoughts to stupid filmmakers with stupid memorys who are too stupid to make sense of their story that connects it with the previous film. I guess they think we're stoopid.

[Johnny Drama]

It's little stupid things like this that get me thinking about horror films and how illogical things become. Jason going back to Crystal Lake was a brain sctracher. I'm just left to assume he walked back...after of course, being turned back into a mutated zombie hybred adult with a NEW mask that has also graphed to his oversized head.

Michael driving cross country....there's a freaking movie right there. Obviously, they could have made that movie instead of Resurection. Canonball run meets Halloween....that would be more watchable.

It's just stupid thoughts to stupid filmmakers with stupid memorys who are too stupid to make sense of their story that connects it with the previous film. I guess they think we're stoopid.


EXACTLY! And how did he die, turn into this demon tadpole creature, craw up his dead relatives vagina so that he can be reborn, not as a baby jason but as the same mutated zombie hybred adult with the NEW mask that is graphed to his oversized head, then die again 5 minutes later and be dragged into hell by Freddy Krueger and a bunch of other Demons only to show up in the year 2008 as a test subject in some laboratory where is was cryogenically frozen and propelled into outter space, then eventually sent to the futuristic Earth-2 only to be dragged right back to the mid 2000's where he is now the Frankestien monster, afraid of water (even though he practically lived underwater for several years) and he is Freddy Krueger man servant. :csad:

Now I have a headache...

Thank god for the remake, no madder how bad it may have been.

[ABleedingCorpse]

EXACTLY! And how did he die, turn into this demon tadpole creature, craw up his dead relatives vagina so that he can be reborn, not as a baby jason but as the same mutated zombie hybred adult with the NEW mask that is graphed to his oversized head, then die again 5 minutes later and be dragged into hell by Freddy Krueger and a bunch of other Demons only to show up in the year 2008 as a test subject in some laboratory where is was cryogenically frozen and propelled into outter space, then eventually sent to the futuristic Earth-2 only to be dragged right back to the mid 2000's where he is now the Frankestien monster, afraid of water (even though he practically lived underwater for several years) and he is Freddy Krueger man servant. :csad:

Now I have a headache...

Thank god for the remake, no madder how bad it may have been.

I hear you. It wasn't great, but damn it at least was better to have a fresh start than to continue trying to make sense of how things go from bad to worse.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Originally Posted by Marx http://forums.superherohype.com/images/Drakon/SHHClassic/smallbuttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=16520152#post16520152)
For me, the original Halloween series ends with H2O.
Yeah ,I agree. The ending was jsut great, IMO. She cuts his head off, credits roll. Then that craptastic film, Halloween: Ressurection, ruined it.

[Nightmare]

For me, the original Halloween series ends with H2O.

Well the only one your really excluding is Halloween:Resurrection.

Unless you only count H1,H2 and the follow those buy H20.

Thus excluding H4,H5, and H6

[The Joker]

Excluding H5 and H6 is a good thing. They were pretty awful. Especially part 6.

Halloween 4 was awesome. The only decent non Laurie Strode one.

[Episode29]

Excluding H5 and H6 is a good thing. They were pretty awful. Especially part 6.

Halloween 4 was awesome. The only decent non Laurie Strode one.

Yea, Halloween 4 was pretty darn good. It made up for the brain haemorrhage-inducing Part 3...

[CashforStash]

First official pics :D

http://i41.tinypic.com/a5kumh.jpg

and (Warning, could be a lil too bloody for SHH standards so i'll put in spoiler tags)

http://i43.tinypic.com/iz52eb.jpg

[SalaciousVC]

EXACTLY! And how did he die, turn into this demon tadpole creature, craw up his dead relatives vagina so that he can be reborn, not as a baby jason but as the same mutated zombie hybred adult with the NEW mask that is graphed to his oversized head, then die again 5 minutes later and be dragged into hell by Freddy Krueger and a bunch of other Demons only to show up in the year 2008 as a test subject in some laboratory where is was cryogenically frozen and propelled into outter space, then eventually sent to the futuristic Earth-2 only to be dragged right back to the mid 2000's where he is now the Frankestien monster, afraid of water (even though he practically lived underwater for several years) and he is Freddy Krueger man servant.

No.

This.

:funny:

[The Joker]

First official pics :D

http://i41.tinypic.com/a5kumh.jpg

and (Warning, could be a lil too bloody for SHH standards so i'll put in spoiler tags)

http://i43.tinypic.com/iz52eb.jpg

Yikes! Laurie looks a real mess.

Awesome.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I wonder what kind of ending this film will have?

[Joe Von Zombie]

I don't care why Michael waited 20 years. Same reason why I don't care why he waited 15 years instead of 14 ,or 16, or 18 years before escaping the sanitarium in the original movie.

Same reason why I don't care why we don't know what made Michael become the way he is. Evil and it's actions don't always need an explanation.

Thank you, Rob Zombie's Halloween is the embodiement of everything that's wrong with modern American horror cenima. Why do movie goers in this day and age need everything spelled out for and spoon fed to them?

[Majik1387]

Because they're stupid.

[Lunar_Wolf]

When I watched H20, the movie I really wanted to see was the one of Michael just driving cross country and getting into miss-adventures. I'm just curious, when Michael was driving, did he take highways and interstates? And if so...anyone wonder what the hell was up with the guy in the mask driving a rundown car?

Granted, I liked H20, I found it to be entertaining and enjoyable in a Halloween film...I however felt that he next sequal Resurrection just was horrible to the core. That killed the franchise. Yeah, 'curse' was horrible also....but it at least made a bit more sense than Resurection did.

So after all that, and Zombie (who I like) picked up the Halloween films I was excited and I really liked (didn't love it) what he did with it. I'm looking forward to what he has planned for the sequal.

But let's just really put this out there....this is a slasher/horror film...about Michael Myers...a simple simple story...it's not the Holy Bible or The Great Gatsby...people who are taking this to heart are very very sad and empty people. You need better things in life than to moan about how a film is being remade and in your sad empty eyes..ruined (news flash...JC's Halloween didn't go anywhere!!). You can like, dislike, love or hate a film all you want...that's fair...but to put things out there as if your life is falling apart and that your childhood memory of a character is being changed is changing the world.....if you do that...please...seek help because you have nothing in life to live for except constant disappointment.

If H2 is not as good as the first, I'm suing Zombie for raping my child hood, Myers is my hero:hehe::oldrazz:

I wonder what Myers was doing for 20 years? What does the guy do in his spare time? Wonder does he like Dr Phil?:wow:

[PyroChamber]

First official pics :D

http://i41.tinypic.com/a5kumh.jpg

and (Warning, could be a lil too bloody for SHH standards so i'll put in spoiler tags)

http://i43.tinypic.com/iz52eb.jpgSo I take it this one will follow the same storyline as the original sequel, in the hospital right?

[The Original Bamfer]

So I take it this one will follow the same storyline as the original sequel, in the hospital right?

Nope. Zombie confirmed that, like the original sequel, it will begin where the last film left off, but that's only for the beginning portion of the film. Due to right legalities, they can't use the same storyline from the original sequel, so, the majority of the film will not take place in a hospital on the same night.

[PyroChamber]

Nope. Zombie confirmed that, like the original sequel, it will begin where the last film left off, but that's only for the beginning portion of the film. Due to right legalities, they can't use the same storyline from the original sequel, so, the majority of the film will not take place in a hospital on the same night.Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

[CFE]

Yeah Bamfer's right...

The original storyline of "Halloween 2" with Laurie in the Hospital and Michael tracking her there is owned by Universal and Dino De Laurentis, not Anchor Bay and Malek Akkad.

But it's a good thing that Rob can't fall back on that...meaning he has to do something fresh.

[ABleedingCorpse]

It's a great thing he can't fall back on the old Halloween 2 storyline, we're guarentee'd a fresh new film. I've already spoken my two cents about what I think the storyline will be about so I won't repeat myself.

[The Apatow Crew]

Whats with the whole deal of Universal only doing the second one, then the rest were made by Anchor bay and Dimension?

[CFE]

Whats with the whole deal of Universal only doing the second one, then the rest were made by Anchor bay and Dimension?

After the success of the original "Halloween," the rights were optioned by Dino and he funded the sequel through Universal.

By the time, "Halloween 4" rolled around, Carpenter and Hill sold their rights of the franchise to Moustapha Akkad...and I'm guessing that "Halloween 3"s less then stellar box office was enough for Universal to NOT fight Akkad for ownership of the series so they let him have it.

Then Dimension saw the potential in "Halloween 6" and optioned it to be a studio release, but of course that production history was so horrendously botched.

But Dimension pulled through and produced "Halloween: H20" which came out successful, so they've held onto the rights alongisde Akkad's son Malek ever since.

So, from here on out, the only "Halloween" film not owned by Dimenson and Akkad is "Halloween 2."

Hence why Universal is the only one that can put out "Halloween 2" DVDs/Blu Rays...and why any story-points and dialogue that have direct correlation with "Halloween 2" can't be used as priority in future "Halloween" projects.

So for "H2" Laurie CAN be in a hospital setting, but the hospital cannot be the main location...

[The Apatow Crew]

Okay, thanks for clearing that up then.

[JustABill]

Yeah, that's why there's no such thing as a Halloween box set. Which is fine by me, I have the ones I want from the original series.

Halloween, Halloween 2, Halloween 4, and Halloween H20. I pretend the others don't exist. :o

[The Apatow Crew]

I have all the halloween dvds except parts 3 and 6.

I wanna get part 6 though, it's a guilty pleasure. they don't sell it in stores.

[JustABill]

I have all the halloween dvds except parts 3 and 6.

I wanna get part 6 though, it's a guilty pleasure. they don't sell it in stores.
Have you tried places like Moviestop? They might have a used copy in places like that.

[WeaponXProject]

So for "H2" Laurie CAN be in a hospital setting, but the hospital cannot be the main location...


I really hope they move outside the hospital for the next movie.

[The Apatow Crew]

Have you tried places like Moviestop? They might have a used copy in places like that.It's a funny thing though.

I went and asked my Local Suncoast if they could order it, and said it was discontinued, but yet i think it was on Amazon and Bestbuy I saw they were selling it.

I don't have any of those movieshop stores around me. I guess another option would be Ebay.

[JustABill]

It's a funny thing though.

I went and asked my Local Suncoast if they could order it, and said it was discontinued, but yet i think it was on Amazon and Bestbuy I saw they were selling it.

I don't have any of those movieshop stores around me. I guess another option would be Ebay.
Amazon has it and for relatively cheap. Then again I buy alot of DVD/Blu Rays from Amazon cause I have Amazon Prime.

[The Apatow Crew]

Amazon has it and for relatively cheap. Then again I buy alot of DVD/Blu Rays from Amazon cause I have Amazon Prime.Yeah, I think it was like 5 or 6 dollars. I'd buy it from there, but I don't have a credit card. Or a bank account to have a debit card.

[amazingfantasy15]

Yeah, I think it was like 5 or 6 dollars. I'd buy it from there, but I don't have a credit card. Or a bank account to have a debit card.

Aren't you in your mid-20's? How do you not have a credit card or at least a bank account with debit card?

[The Apatow Crew]

Aren't you in your mid-20's? How do you not have a credit card or at least a bank account with debit card?I know, I know. Stuffs been tough as of the last few years.

[The Dark Defender]

I'm glad that this film can't repeat the hospital setting anyways, the second half of the remake was just an inferior copycat of the original, atleast now Rob will have to try a new story for Michael.

[Cagefighterkip]

new BTS pix from the "H2" set
http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=9753

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Cool pics!

[Matt]

I could really care less about this movie, to be honest. Zombie's interpretation of Michael was a total failure as he took away his scariest aspect. Michael Meyers was not a zombie who could get you where ever you go. He was not a monster who can get you in your dreams. He wasn't scary based on how he'd kill you. Hell, Carpenter didn't even have the murders on screen. Why he was killing was the scary part. He was like that little boy on the news who shot his step mother. Why would a 10 year old do what Michael did? What was his motive? Why was he killing? Was he simply evil incarnate? Zombie failed to grasp that and instead made Michael a sympathetic, abused child. He failed to capture what seperates Michael from every other slasher genre out there. His remake is on par with the crappier sequels, IMO.

[Matt]

Also, why is Laurie suddenly an emo in this movie?

[Marx]

Also, why is Laurie suddenly an emo in this movie?

Zombie's Laurie had 'emo-tendencies' in the last movie too. :csad:

[Heretic]

Just to be fair...

There is no emo music played in Rob Zombie's Halloween, and Laurie did not dress, in any way "emo", even though the proper term would be "scene" or "mallcore".

[WeaponXProject]

I could really care less about this movie, to be honest. Zombie's interpretation of Michael was a total failure as he took away his scariest aspect. Michael Meyers was not a zombie who could get you where ever you go. He was not a monster who can get you in your dreams. He wasn't scary based on how he'd kill you. Hell, Carpenter didn't even have the murders on screen. Why he was killing was the scary part. He was like that little boy on the news who shot his step mother. Why would a 10 year old do what Michael did? What was his motive? Why was he killing? Was he simply evil incarnate? Zombie failed to grasp that and instead made Michael a sympathetic, abused child. He failed to capture what seperates Michael from every other slasher genre out there. His remake is on par with the crappier sequels, IMO.

I agree completely but I will probably still see it.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Just to be fair...

There is no emo music played in Rob Zombie's Halloween, and Laurie did not dress, in any way "emo", even though the proper term would be "scene" or "mallcore".

Laurie was a total mallcore girl...or as I would have called her...'some teenage girl who wants to look cool within her 'group'.

I like Laurie's character in this Halloween. Reminds me of the girls I usually date.

But the new photos she's really really trying hard to look 'corehard'. I suppose if I found out I came from a white trash family, and my older brother killed them, my friends, my family, and scared the living crap out of me on Halloween, I'm sure that would cause some 'issues' to accure in an 18/19 year old girl who possibly just wants to kill herself or do a lot of drugs to forget the scars.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Also to comment on the new photos, wouldn't it be just SOOOO ZOMBIE LIKE if Laurie became a prostitute and that old guy with the bollar hat on was her pimp?? hahaha. Oh man, would the boards go crazy if that were a rumor...which it is..I just started it.

New detials revealed in leaked Halloween 2 pics, Laurie becomes a prostitute and is selling her hot stuff at the Java Hole...where she lets you put your jave in her hole. Her pimp boyfriend is 70 years old and sells herione.

[Marx]

Also to comment on the new photos, wouldn't it be just SOOOO ZOMBIE LIKE if Laurie became a prostitute and that old guy with the bollar hat on was her pimp?? hahaha. Oh man, would the boards go crazy if that were a rumor...which it is..I just started it.

New detials revealed in leaked Halloween 2 pics, Laurie becomes a prostitute and is selling her hot stuff at the Java Hole...where she lets you put your jave in her hole. Her pimp boyfriend is 70 years old and sells herione.

Oh. Dear. Lord.

:facepalm

[Heretic]

Laurie was a total mallcore girl...or as I would have called her...'some teenage girl who wants to look cool within her 'group'.

I like Laurie's character in this Halloween. Reminds me of the girls I usually date.

But the new photos she's really really trying hard to look 'corehard'. I suppose if I found out I came from a white trash family, and my older brother killed them, my friends, my family, and scared the living crap out of me on Halloween, I'm sure that would cause some 'issues' to accure in an 18/19 year old girl who possibly just wants to kill herself or do a lot of drugs to forget the scars.

In the first Zomboween, Laurie looked like your average preppy girl. The cheerleader, the girl that dates the football players...an "emo", or "mallcore" girl would have a completely different look. Laurie appeared to shop at American Eagle, or Hollister...and when it comes to "looking emo", Hot Topic is really the only store on earth.

[Matt]

Sadly...it seems like something Zombie would do.

[ABleedingCorpse]

In the first Zomboween, Laurie looked like your average preppy girl. The cheerleader, the girl that dates the football players...an "emo", or "mallcore" girl would have a completely different look. Laurie appeared to shop at American Eagle, or Hollister...and when it comes to "looking emo", Hot Topic is really the only store on earth.

I think her attitude and hoodie would say different. She wasn't emo, but she definatly got that hoodie she wore at Hot-Topic (even though, actually, it came from Total Skull..but shhhh). She wasn't preppy. Though this is stupid to debate. She was just your average teen girl who wantd to 'stand' out within her own group of friends.

[Heretic]

What Zombie did was he tried to take average girls and turn them into something closer to what he identifies with. The hot cheerleader chick was sneaking in an abandoned house to make out with her loser stoner long haired boyfriend, and all across the country, your star cheerleaders are AVOIDING those guys like the plague. It actually is of slight import when you analyze his character choices as a part of his overall inablity to see beyond his own interests. No matter what he does as a director, he will alter the property to fit HIM, not alter his style to fit the property.

[ABleedingCorpse]

What Zombie did was he tried to take average girls and turn them into something closer to what he identifies with. The hot cheerleader chick was sneaking in an abandoned house to make out with her loser stoner long haired boyfriend, and all across the country, your star cheerleaders are AVOIDING those guys like the plague. It actually is of slight import when you analyze his character choices as a part of his overall inablity to see beyond his own interests. No matter what he does as a director, he will alter the property to fit HIM, not alter his style to fit the property.

Yeah, 'cause the cheerleaders I went to school with were ALL AVOIDING the older guy, who can buy alcohol, has a vehical that has "room" and isn't in high school so they can't ruin their image. Yeah...analize something different for a change other than the way someone looks. Trust me, coming from a guy who looks like Paul, the young high school girl would rather pick me out than the jock guy that can't get around.

[Heretic]

Yeah, 'cause the cheerleaders I went to school with were ALL AVOIDING the older guy, who can buy alcohol, has a vehical that has "room" and isn't in high school so they can't ruin their image. Yeah...analize something different for a change other than the way someone looks. Trust me, coming from a guy who looks like Paul, the young high school girl would rather pick me out than the jock guy that can't get around.


As a long haired metal type myself, I wish you were right. Unfortunately, the VAST MAJORITY...I'll go out on a limb and say 98% of high school cheerleaders are dating the guys who are most popular in their clique. In 2009 it is a rarity to have the popular girls going out with losers.

I analyze everything about people, movies etc. Of course, the directors choices impact the believability of his world. If High School Musical 4 comes out, and Zac Efron is replaced with Eddie Vedder circa 1993, it would ruin the films credibility...every bit as much as having Skippy from Family Ties play a metalhead in Trick Or Treat in the 80's

[ABleedingCorpse]

As a long haired metal type myself, I wish you were right. Unfortunately, the VAST MAJORITY...I'll go out on a limb and say 98% of high school cheerleaders are dating the guys who are most popular in their clique. In 2009 it is a rarity to have the popular girls going out with losers.

I analyze everything about people, movies etc. Of course, the directors choices impact the believability of his world. If High School Musical 4 comes out, and Zac Efron is replaced with Eddie Vedder circa 1993, it would ruin the films credibility...every bit as much as having Skippy from Family Ties play a metalhead in Trick Or Treat in the 80's

See though, that's where you analization of these characters betrays you. 98%? That leaves 2%, and it was the 'outlandish' cheerleader who was dating the metal head. So by logic, her choice of a sex mate made perfect sense, therefore, your logic against Zombie is foolish. Annie dated a preppy guy, she was pretty preppy by today's standards. And it's not uncommon anymore more for girls in different 'cliques' to hang out. So the preppy girl who's daddy is the sheriff, the skany cheerleader who likes metal heads, and the 'outsider' rebalish down to earth girl who likes sex jokes with dounuts can all hang out and be stalked by a 6'7 madman with a knife.

[Heretic]

See though, that's where you analization of these characters betrays you. 98%? That leaves 2%, and it was the 'outlandish' cheerleader who was dating the metal head. So by logic, her choice of a sex mate made perfect sense, therefore, your logic against Zombie is foolish. Annie dated a preppy guy, she was pretty preppy by today's standards. And it's not uncommon anymore more for girls in different 'cliques' to hang out. So the preppy girl who's daddy is the sheriff, the skany cheerleader who likes metal heads, and the 'outsider' rebalish down to earth girl who likes sex jokes with dounuts can all hang out and be stalked by a 6'7 madman with a knife.

I'm not 6'7"

wait, scratch that!

I get your point...I still think things are still a bit more seperated than that though...and it just kind of weirds me out that SO MANY horror films (and films in general) mix the different cliques up like its nothing...when in reality...in real high schools...it isnt like that.

[ABleedingCorpse]

I'm not 6'7"

wait, scratch that!

I get your point...I still think things are still a bit more seperated than that though...and it just kind of weirds me out that SO MANY horror films (and films in general) mix the different cliques up like its nothing...when in reality...in real high schools...it isnt like that.

Reality check, it's not like THAT everywhere either. But I agree with you, it's not exactly realistic the way it's played out in movies....but ask yourself this, if filmmakers really cared a lot about making people and groups more realistic, don't you believe it would be the most policitaly incorrect, offensive and down right mouth slapping if done with all reality? I watch 'Everyone Hates Chris' and I've watch Chris Rocks stand up and though the show is based on his standup.....the show is the most sugar coated piece of crap I've ever scene. How about The Hills...haven't really watched it but I'm sure none of those girls have caught an STD or had an abortion or got for some strange reason gotten so totally drunk and raped they don't even remember. I'm pretty sure that wouldn't fly on a series of it's nature, maybe a Lifetime movie. Which also reminds me of how insulted I get when I watch Lifetime.

Let's not forget every single show on network telivision is a completely hyper reality where things just 'work', instead of being real where life isn't as smooth as a script and people aren't photoshopped....because if Tv and movies where more realistic and real to the core....we wouldn't need either of them, we could just walk outside and be entertained.

[Heretic]

Reality check, it's not like THAT everywhere either. But I agree with you, it's not exactly realistic the way it's played out in movies....but ask yourself this, if filmmakers really cared a lot about making people and groups more realistic, don't you believe it would be the most policitaly incorrect, offensive and down right mouth slapping if done with all reality? I watch 'Everyone Hates Chris' and I've watch Chris Rocks stand up and though the show is based on his standup.....the show is the most sugar coated piece of crap I've ever scene. How about The Hills...haven't really watched it but I'm sure none of those girls have caught an STD or had an abortion or got for some strange reason gotten so totally drunk and raped they don't even remember. I'm pretty sure that wouldn't fly on a series of it's nature, maybe a Lifetime movie. Which also reminds me of how insulted I get when I watch Lifetime.

Let's not forget every single show on network telivision is a completely hyper reality where things just 'work', instead of being real where life isn't as smooth as a script and people aren't photoshopped....because if Tv and movies where more realistic and real to the core....we wouldn't need either of them, we could just walk outside and be entertained.

I get that movies and tv are in a hyper reality...but in movies I dont need date rapes or pregnancies or whatever. Its a moment in time, whereas a tv series is supposedly YEARS of their lives. I definitely get what youre saying though.

But to the point, Laurie isnt emo. She might be a tad bit off from the mainstream, but she is still firmly in the mainstream.

[ABleedingCorpse]

I get that movies and tv are in a hyper reality...but in movies I dont need date rapes or pregnancies or whatever. Its a moment in time, whereas a tv series is supposedly YEARS of their lives. I definitely get what youre saying though.

But to the point, Laurie isnt emo. She might be a tad bit off from the mainstream, but she is still firmly in the mainstream.

And I clearly stated that. I said she wasn't emo.

[Heretic]

Matt said she was emo.

But thats besdie the point. I consider myself a Zombie fan...Ive seen all of his movies and have a few of his cds...but his characterization skills worry me. It seems he is so focused on the "coolness" of his films that he overlooks the finer details. The escape scene he originally shot for the first Halloween was atrocious, but i do like many aspects of the film. I found Scout Compton to be pretty endearing.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Speaking of Zombie, his direction and Michael...there's a few video's floating around of them filming Michael. Appearently he doesn't have his mask on, and he's walking very strangly as if he's dazed and confused. I don't know what was up with it, I just know they were filming Tyler walking down a neighborhood street all strange. Looked interesting.

And Heretic, I totally dig Zombie. Last cd kinda disappointed me though, but that's really not the subject here. His characterization stims from his own person mind of thinking, but don't push all that on him for Halloween as he let most of the actors improvise and play the characters to their own liking. Laurie was more like Scout than what Zombie had writen her as. I think the main characters that were played more to Zombie's preferance were Loomis and Michael and of course, the white trash family. But what do you expect from a guy who grew up as a carnie kid? Zombie doesn't know what 'normal' is to begin with and can only base things off what he knows and thinks. Which is why we get these type of characters.

[Heretic]

I think Loomis was great (though the dork in me would have appreciate a reference to an ex named Marion Crane). Like I said, I did like laurie, but I think that may be due to Compton being a cute a likable actress (who is in mostly crap films).

[ABleedingCorpse]

I think Loomis was great (though the dork in me would have appreciate a reference to an ex named Marion Crane). Like I said, I did like laurie, but I think that may be due to Compton being a cute a likable actress (who is in mostly crap films).

Yeah, I would have banged Laurie. But I'm pretty sure her brother would have something to say about that. hahaha

[Norman Bates]

As a director, he should be more observational to the world around him.

I'm a director myself and just because I was raised in white New York suburbia doesn't mean I couldn't do a reasonable amount of research to write/direct a film that focuses on 1970's east LA neighborhoods. It doesn't seem like Zombie is a patient enough "writer" (and I use the term loosely) to do such a thing.

Now, I don't know what his process is when giving himself to a project, but judging by H1 and the story structure, not only did it look like he did absolutely no research on the American family he was trying to portray but it also looks like he didn't write an outline, a character analysis, or a treatment. Looks like he dove right into the script and it shows. It looks as if he was making it up as he went along.

[Nivek]

edit- Nevermind, I see who wrote that *groan*...

[ABleedingCorpse]

As a director, he should be more observational to the world around him.

I'm a director myself and just because I was raised in white New York suburbia doesn't mean I couldn't do a reasonable amount of research to write/direct a film that focuses on 1970's east LA neighborhoods. It doesn't seem like Zombie is a patient enough "writer" (and I use the term loosely) to do such a thing.

Now, I don't know what his process is when giving himself to a project, but judging by H1 and the story structure, not only did it look like he did absolutely no research on the American family he was trying to portray but it also looks like he didn't write an outline, a character analysis, or a treatment. Looks like he dove right into the script and it shows. It looks as if he was making it up as he went along.

"ooo..look at me, I'm a director, I know things and I judge others work and criticize other "directors" (i use that term loosely)."

Oh please, first off...you go make a million dollar film and come back and tells us if that worked out for you and so I can criticize you left and right about how you did things.

Every director's different and carry a styles that are either copies (like the majority) or slightly new and interesting.

And for all the people here, Zombie's version of the Myers family could have very well been an actual family. I have had friends who come from crappy disfunctional houses and for some reason, that family looked a bit tame. I just think people who hate it either have a personal dislike for Zombie or feel he did something YOU didn't want.

[ABleedingCorpse]

So let the b**chin and moaning begin...

Daeg Faerch is completely gone from the Halloween films. He has been re-cast by a younger actor to play young Michael. Daeg has grown too much since the last film and is too tall for the role. The rumor was true regaurding his re-casting.

Let it begin.....let's here it....Zombie could have avoided this if he was a better writer/director..

[The Apatow Crew]

A New Young Michael Myers Arrives in Haddonfield

We have learned that Daeg Faerch has been recast as young Michael Myers in Rob Zombie's H2 (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/film/1612), which is currently filming around Georgia. Word on the street is that Faerch was too "grown up" for the film (now standing taller than Sheri Moon) and won't be making it into the finished project. No word on his replacement, but we'll let you know as soon as we find out. Tyler Mane is still playing adult Michael Myers in the sequel to Zombie's Halloween remake hitting theaters August 28 from Dimension Films. We'll miss you Daeg.
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15466

All I can say is sucks to be him.

[ABleedingCorpse]

A New Young Michael Myers Arrives in Haddonfield


http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15466

All I can say is sucks to be him.

*in typical Rob Zombie hater form*

This sucks. This just sucks. Rob Zombie is ruining my childhood memory of Michael. He sucks. I hate him. BOOOOOOO! Now I have to deal with there being TWO young Michael Myers who look NOTHING alike.. STUPID STUPID, ME HATE ZOMBIE!!! BLAH. He's ruining Halloween by re-casting Daeg. God, I hate Rob Zombie and his music sucks and his wife can't act and his tattoo's look retarded and his dog s***'s on the ground and he has more money than me and wah wah wah!

BOOOOOOO! I'm not going to see this film. I already know it sucks. It's just going to be a crappy directed sequal to that dull remake he did. He doesn't know how to direct a film, I DO THOUGH..I should be directing it. I wouldn't butcher it like Zombie. ME ME ME ME ME ME ME!! What next? They going to re-cast the grave-digger? I bet he has Michael flying around on a jet -pack. God, I just don't understand where he's coming from. I don't know why Zombie would make such things that don't represent ME and HOW I would have done things.

ahhh. I hate Rob Zombie. STOOPID!!! Daeg will ALWAYS be young Michael Myers....BLAH BLAH BLAH.


:whatever:

[The Apatow Crew]

^^^^:hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::o:wow::grin:

[Heretic]

You know, its actually IS possible to think that Zombie is a one trick pony.

[theShape]

Thank god. That kid was awful in the last film, but what's the deal with this anyway? I guess flashbacks to his childhood? Why would they be necessary?

[theShape]

*in typical Rob Zombie hater form*

This sucks. This just sucks. Rob Zombie is ruining my childhood memory of Michael. He sucks. I hate him. BOOOOOOO! Now I have to deal with there being TWO young Michael Myers who look NOTHING alike.. STUPID STUPID, ME HATE ZOMBIE!!! BLAH. He's ruining Halloween by re-casting Daeg. God, I hate Rob Zombie and his music sucks and his wife can't act and his tattoo's look retarded and his dog s***'s on the ground and he has more money than me and wah wah wah!

BOOOOOOO! I'm not going to see this film. I already know it sucks. It's just going to be a crappy directed sequal to that dull remake he did. He doesn't know how to direct a film, I DO THOUGH..I should be directing it. I wouldn't butcher it like Zombie. ME ME ME ME ME ME ME!! What next? They going to re-cast the grave-digger? I bet he has Michael flying around on a jet -pack. God, I just don't understand where he's coming from. I don't know why Zombie would make such things that don't represent ME and HOW I would have done things.

ahhh. I hate Rob Zombie. STOOPID!!! Daeg will ALWAYS be young Michael Myers....BLAH BLAH BLAH.


:whatever:

Even thugh you were trying to be funny, I bolded all of the true parts of your post just for funsies. :up:

[The Joker]

A New Young Michael Myers Arrives in Haddonfield


http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15466

All I can say is sucks to be him.

Hmmm, they must be having flashbacks to Michael's childhood. Can't imagine what they are though. I thought pretty much everything was covered in the first movie.

[The Apatow Crew]

Hmmm, they must be having flashbacks to Michael's childhood. Can't imagine what they are though. I thought pretty much everything was covered in the first movie.Maybe while Micheal's in a coma he has a dream sequence of him and his mother? lol.:o

[Spider-ManHero12]

Originally Posted by The Apatow Crew http://forums.superherohype.com/images/Drakon/SHHClassic/smallbuttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=16534570#post16534570)
A New Young Michael Myers Arrives in Haddonfield


http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15466 (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15466)

All I can say is sucks to be him.
Hmmmm, interesting.

[Heretic]

Can we just get real here and say that the reason why there are flashback scenes is so that his wife can appear in the movie? That is surely the major driving factor.

[Nivek]

A New Young Michael Myers Arrives in Haddonfield


http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15466



All I can say is sucks to be him.


That sucks, I met him at a convention down here last October, nice kid. Big, but that is what he was cast for.

[The Apatow Crew]

Can we just get real here and say that the reason why there are flashback scenes is so that his wife can appear in the movie? That is surely the major driving factor.Of course i'm sure everyone even knows, **** i'm sure even Zombie knows that. lol.

[The Apatow Crew]

That sucks, I met him at a convention down here last October, nice kid. Big, but that is what he was cast for.Yes, cause he was too tall and was taller then Sherrie and it wouldn't make no sense to have him bigger in some flashbacks then others, when they tell take place at the same time i'm guessing.

[Nivek]

Well, I was hoping he would show more Loomis and Young Michael.

[Heretic]

So, he's making his scripting and directing choices based on what is best for one actress' career, rather than concentrating on what is best for the film. That alone should cause viewers to be wary of his product.

[Nivek]

Oh jeez, just don't watch it if your this down on the movie at this point.

[The Apatow Crew]

Well, I was hoping he would show more Loomis and Young Michael.Who knows they could, but i'm sure theres only gonna be one flashback scene.

[Majik1387]

I haven't seen Sherri's acting outside of Zombie's movies, so I'll reserve judgment on her, but I do see she has a knack for it, but I feel like her husband doesn't bring out the best in her.

[The Apatow Crew]

Oh jeez, just don't watch it if your this down on the movie at this point.lol. then that wouldn't give them something to complain about.:oldrazz:

[Spider-ManHero12]

Hmmm, I wonder how many flashback scenes we'll see though? 3? 4?

[Nivek]

lol. then that wouldn't give them something to complain about.:oldrazz:

I'm just tired of it. The remake was a success (would be a bigger hit if the stupid studio released it around f'ing Halloween!), and for all the complaints about Zombie, no one just say 'No thanks, I'll catch it on cable in a year" and moving on. You don't like what Zombie did, tough $#!t. It was going to be remade anyway, and probobly by some chump like Eli Roth. At least Zombie did his own thing that didn't involve some washed up Rapper with a Kung-Fu fetish kicking the character out a window.

[The Apatow Crew]

Hmmm, I wonder how many flashback scenes we'll see though? 3? 4?I'm sure not that many. since they prolly wanna keep in the present and not flashback so much. seeing as half of the first movie was kinda a flashback in its self.

[Heretic]

I haven't seen Sherri's acting outside of Zombie's movies, so I'll reserve judgment on her, but I do see she has a knack for it, but I feel like her husband doesn't bring out the best in her.

Shes played a psychotic killer and an emotionally destroyed suicidal mom...shes shown enough rannge...and if she was any better than what we've seen then shed be getting work outside of Zombies films, which she seems unable to get.

[Nightmare]

Hmmm, I wonder how many flashback scenes we'll see though? 3? 4?

20

If Laurie shot MM in the head, wouldnt he have a big hold in his mask?

[The Apatow Crew]

I'm just tired of it. The remake was a success (would be a bigger hit if the stupid studio released it around f'ing Halloween!), and for all the complaints about Zombie, no one just say 'No thanks, I'll catch it on cable in a year" and moving on. You don't like what Zombie did, tough $#!t. It was going to be remade anyway, and probobly by some chump like Eli Roth. At least Zombie did his own thing that didn't involve some washed up Rapper with a Kung-Fu fetish kicking the character out a window.People can't just say what they mean, they have to stick around and force their opinons onto others.

[Heretic]

Okay, so this...and evry movie thread...should be like this...

I like It
I dont
I like it too!
Im not interested
Close topic

[steintym]

I'm just tired of it. The remake was a success (would be a bigger hit if the stupid studio released it around f'ing Halloween!), and for all the complaints about Zombie, no one just say 'No thanks, I'll catch it on cable in a year" and moving on. You don't like what Zombie did, tough $#!t. It was going to be remade anyway, and probobly by some chump like Eli Roth. At least Zombie did his own thing that didn't involve some washed up Rapper with a Kung-Fu fetish kicking the character out a window.

I'm with you, the constant complaining is old. Nothing about the remake should ruin people's enjoyment of the original.

Honestly, I'm still shocked at the hatred towards the remake. It doesn't compare to the original (I'd never argue that) but I was able to enjoy it. Oh well, I realize I'm one of the few.

[Nightmare]

Whats the youngest do you guys think for someone to watch the remake?

[The Apatow Crew]

Whats the youngest do you guys think for someone to watch the remake?Well, there is alot of bad language,boob and blood. So I'm thinking like 14-15 or so. 13 maybe the youngest. Why you gonna show it to one of your younger cousins or something?

[steintym]

A little does depend on the kid that will be watching it, but I would think 13 is the probably the youngest, but right around there 13-14. This one is pretty rough with the nudity, language, violence, etc.

[The Apatow Crew]

A little does depend on the kid that will be watching it, but I would think 13 is the probably the youngest, but right around there 13-14. This one is pretty rough with the nudity, language, violence, etc.Yeah, thats about the same age i said, but like you said also it depends on the kid.

I've shown my cousin some horror films when he was like 12-13 or so.

[Nivek]

Whats the youngest do you guys think for someone to watch the remake?

13-14 depending on maturity.

[theShape]

I'm just tired of it. The remake was a success (would be a bigger hit if the stupid studio released it around f'ing Halloween!), and for all the complaints about Zombie, no one just say 'No thanks, I'll catch it on cable in a year" and moving on. You don't like what Zombie did, tough $#!t. It was going to be remade anyway, and probobly by some chump like Eli Roth. At least Zombie did his own thing that didn't involve some washed up Rapper with a Kung-Fu fetish kicking the character out a window.


People can't just say what they mean, they have to stick around and force their opinons onto others.


Couldn't one argue that you guys are just as annoying by constantly loving everything and defending Zombie to the grave? If anything, you guys make it hard on yourselves, because anytime someone says something like, "I don't like how Zombie did this" or "That part sucked", someone has to post a response along the lines of, "Well, Zombie didn't touch the original, so go watch that!" or "Judging by the box office, this was a huge success..." or "At least it was better than Resurrection" (what isn't?) or "Too bad! The movie was made already! Deal with it!" or "You should be grateful to Zombie. He added so much great backstory..."

People have opinions. Not all are the same. Such is life. The Hype is no different. In fact, people come here to express their opinions, and as long as they aren't trolling or being vulgar, they should be allowed to do so freely.

Not all fans are accepting of everything. I love Halloween movies. Hell, my user name is theShape. I would defend the original to the grave, and even some of the so-bad-they're-good sequels, but what's so bad of hating on the remake? It's a piece of cinematic trash...IN MY OPINION (and many others). As long as people understand it's OUR opinions and no one else's, there shouldn't be a problem.

[Heretic]

The biggest disgrace to the franchise was H20, because it erased all of the sequels from existence.

Or...an this is my thoughts...

Laurie supposedly died, and her daughter went to the hometown of the killer to live with family. that daughter was hunted for years and eventually murdered.

However...not only was Laurie not dead, she had a son around the same age as the daughter. That means that faked her death, sent her least favorite child off as bait...a distraction for the killer so he wouldnt come find her. Finally, Laurie came out of hiding, years after her daughter had been murdered as she planned...and Mike came after her.

According to the storyline, Laurie deserved to die.

[Nivek]

I can understand an opinion, but this is just obnoxious complaining at this point. Constantly stating this project is $#!t is adding what to the conversation? And considering it made bank, added new fans, and is now filming a sequel, what is this accomplishing?

[Heretic]

Its accomplishing the same thing that the complaining on every single thread on every single forum is doing...nothing.

Nivek, am I to assume that you have never...in your 8,569 posts...made a negative statement about a film??

[Nivek]

Of course, remember the Punisher Forum this past December? But that was after I seen it. And, it was something I wanted to see that ended up being a pile of crap (IMO).

But there are films that have had forums here I knew I wasn't going to like, and you know what, I actually don't ever really post in the forums. therefore you did not see me posting in Forums for Catwoman, Fantastic Four, Daredevil, Ghost Rider, ect.

I'm not going to be a chump and just endlessly bi-atch about a project that i know I won't like. It kills your soul and add's nothing in context.

[The Apatow Crew]

I can understand an opinion, but this is just obnoxious complaining at this point. Constantly stating this project is $#!t is adding what to the conversation? And considering it made bank, added new fans, and is now filming a sequel, what is this accomplishing?We had this same problem over in the latest F13 thread.

I mean everyones opinion is respected, but when you keep saying the same thing over and over again to just bump it to the next page is annoying.

Its' like people live to complain and such. I never understood why people waste so much time on something they hate, or it their trying to get people to hate it along with them. Why not take the time to talk about something you love, but that go back to the people love to complain thing.

[Heretic]

Looking over those who have been posting negative things in this thread, most if not all of them MIGHT like this film. Most seem to be horror fans. Personally, i watch at least 3 indie horror films per week thankss to Netflix (recent faves: ZA: Zombies Anonymous and Monsturd...not that those are actually scary).

If done "right" (and that means whatever the poster thinks would be "right") every one of us would love a Halloween film. We WANT to love it. When things happen that make us worry thaat we wont like it, it disheartens us...just as it did in the Punisher forums.

[The Apatow Crew]

Looking over those who have been posting negative things in this thread, most if not all of them MIGHT like this film. Most seem to be horror fans. Personally, i watch at least 3 indie horror films per week thankss to Netflix (recent faves: ZA: Zombies Anonymous and Monsturd...not that those are actually scary).

If done "right" (and that means whatever the poster thinks would be "right") every one of us would love a Halloween film. We WANT to love it. When things happen that make us worry thaat we wont like it, it disheartens us...just as it did in the Punisher forums.Is that movie by any chance about a killer turd? Thats what i'm getting from the title.

[Heretic]

Is that movie by any chance about a killer turd? Thats what i'm getting from the title.

Yes...and it is every bit as gloriously bad as youd imagine. Its a MUST RENT.

[Nivek]

Isn't that the Kevin Smith $#!t Demon from Dogma? Sheesh, talk about zombie being unoriginal than throwing that out there...

[Heretic]

Isn't that the Kevin Smith $#!t Demon from Dogma? Sheesh, talk about zombie being unoriginal than throwing that out there...

Its a movie called Monsturd...it is not supposed to be high art...its a cheap direct to DVD film about a murderous heap of feces. If you are trying to find art or some sort of genius in it then you are trying too hard.

[The Apatow Crew]

Isn't that the Kevin Smith $#!t Demon from Dogma? Sheesh, talk about zombie being unoriginal than throwing that out there...I know right.

This one guy on youtube talks about the whole whining over remakes. I'd put it but there is some swearing and can't post it.

Just go onto youtube and look up someone named Jawooosh. its in 3 parts called remakes. The guy hits the name on the head with alot of what he says.

[Nivek]

Its a movie called Monsturd...it is not supposed to be high art...its a cheap direct to DVD film about a murderous heap of feces. If you are trying to find art or some sort of genius in it then you are trying too hard.


I think it sound unoriginal and lame. Why not make a movie about a satanic hillbilly beast made of a$$ tumers controlled by a giant parasitic tapeworm that vomits pi$$ and pink bile?

[theShape]

I can understand an opinion, but this is just obnoxious complaining at this point. Constantly stating this project is $#!t is adding what to the conversation? And considering it made bank, added new fans, and is now filming a sequel, what is this accomplishing?

It's not exactly hard these days to frontload a film so it makes bank and earns a sequel (see: F13), even though the film was trashed by reviewers. Why do you think they're churning out this remake? And I'll answer your question with another question: what is any of this conversation accomplishing? NOTHING. It's conversation between fans and non-fans. In real life, people don't always share the same opinion. It's not normal to be discussing a movie with a group of people where everyone likes everything about the movie. It's just not realistic. As much as you hate to hear opinions other than your own, they exist. :up:


I'm not going to be a chump and just endlessly bi-atch about a project that i know I won't like. It kills your soul and add's nothing in context.

But would you consider someone who praises everything (see: The Apatow Crew) a chump? I wouldn't.

Seriously, though, when you start seeing people coming in here *****ing about things with no thought ("That sucks"), then I'll be on your side. But when posters like myself have something negative to say and offer up some reasoning for this opinion (just as those offer reasonings for positive opinions), I don't see a problem.

[theShape]

Looking over those who have been posting negative things in this thread, most if not all of them MIGHT like this film. Most seem to be horror fans. Personally, i watch at least 3 indie horror films per week thankss to Netflix (recent faves: ZA: Zombies Anonymous and Monsturd...not that those are actually scary).

If done "right" (and that means whatever the poster thinks would be "right") every one of us would love a Halloween film. We WANT to love it. When things happen that make us worry thaat we wont like it, it disheartens us...just as it did in the Punisher forums.

I agree with this sentiment. I wanted to love the remake and wasn't even against the idea of it, but it wound up being a poorly-constructed mess that had very few redeeming qualities, which worries me for a sequel.

The one thing I'm really digging so far is that it's an original story, for the most part. That's already a step in the right direction.

[Heretic]

I think it sound unoriginal and lame. Why not make a movie about a satanic hillbilly beast made of a$$ tumers controlled by a giant parasitic tapeworm that vomits pi$$ and pink bile?

It IS lame. Thats kind of the point.

I like a few different types of horror movies.

1. Good Horror. The classics, and new stuff that actually tries.
2. Bad horror. Cheap indie films that are fun to watch with your drunken friends.

Heck, I even watch bad horror that THINKS its good. I paid to see The Unborn. Im a horror fan. I knew it would be terrible, but I figred maybe thered be some cool effects (I was wrong, everything cool was in the trailer).

However, you have to be honest about what it is your a fan of. Its okay to say "yeah, this sucks but I like it anyway". People who aare defneing Rob Zombies skills seem unaware that he is a one trick pony, or they will defend his right to be so. Meanwhile, take another director with one idea and he'll get torn to shreds.

[Nivek]

It IS lame. Thats kind of the point.

:facepalm

Oy...

[Heretic]

:facepalm

Oy...

Yes, because all of your entertainment is high art. Learn to not be so uptight sometime. There are times for Mozart, and times for Motley Crue.

[ABleedingCorpse]

I kinda don't believe there will be 'flashbacks' in the film, Zombie even understands this as everything was THERE in the first go around, why go back to it? It's more or less going to have to do with Laurie seeing things, pictures and what not of the old family...but then that wouldn't make sense to replace Daeg...so it's prolly going to be illusions from Michael. I mean, guy was shot and grazed by a bullet to the skull....I'd be pretty messed up in the brain too after that. Michael prolly has illusions or fantasies of the past...maybe digs a little deeper into what's going on "in" Michaels head. Reveal his intentions about Laurie...is he or isn't he trying to kill her? We still don't know.

The casting of a young Michael and Sheri returning don't always have to imply 'flashbacks', Zombie wouldn't go into that direction...remember, he tries stuff that is 'different'. Weither or not you like that or not, or him for that matter, he does do things 'differently' than you're use to.

[ABleedingCorpse]

I'd just like to say, I feel pretty bad for Daeg right now. He wouldn't even have a career if it weren't for Halloween and it's not his fault he hit puberty and grew a foot in two years and now he's out of a job as a character he takes a lot of pride in. But it happens, that's the life of a child actor, you grow up and you loose parts due to it.

[The Apatow Crew]

I'd just like to say, I feel pretty bad for Daeg right now. He wouldn't even have a career if it weren't for Halloween and it's not his fault he hit puberty and grew a foot in two years and now he's out of a job as a character he takes a lot of pride in. But it happens, that's the life of a child actor, you grow up and you loose parts due to it.Rob even said on the dvd commentary when they went back for reshoots he had grown in the last 6 months since. But yeah, it kinda does suck for him.

[ABleedingCorpse]

I do remember Rob saying that on the commentary. Weird kid, just keeps growing and growing. Even in Hancock the kid looked like he grew a foot. He still basicly looks the same, but bigger.

[The Apatow Crew]

I do remember Rob saying that on the commentary. Weird kid, just keeps growing and growing. Even in Hancock the kid looked like he grew a foot. He still basicly looks the same, but bigger.Maybe theres hope he can be in the hancock sequel. lol.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Maybe theres hope he can be in the hancock sequel. lol.

Don't even THINK THAT. Like dragging a dead horse out of a grave, beating it with a stick, chopping it up and then putting it in a race....A sequal? I hope that never happens. I never felt more compelled to scream in a theater in my life.

[Nightmare]

The thought of a Hancock sequel makes me cringe.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'm sure not that many. since they prolly wanna keep in the present and not flashback so much. Good point!

[The Apatow Crew]

Don't even THINK THAT. Like dragging a dead horse out of a grave, beating it with a stick, chopping it up and then putting it in a race....A sequal? I hope that never happens. I never felt more compelled to scream in a theater in my life.What, its gonna happen. That movie made bank, no matter how many hate it.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'm with you, the constant complaining is old. Nothing about the remake should ruin people's enjoyment of the original.

Honestly, I'm still shocked at the hatred towards the remake. It doesn't compare to the original (I'd never argue that) but I was able to enjoy it. Oh well, I realize I'm one of the few. Agreed, I mean, the film was basically Zombie's version. Sure, it wasn't that great, but it wasn't meant to be like the original series. Overall, I enjoyed the film.

[ABleedingCorpse]

That's what I keep saying, its' Rob Zombie's Halloween. John Carpenter had his, Rob Zombie has his and one day, someone else will have theirs.

[The Apatow Crew]

Agreed, I mean, the film was basically Zombie's version. Sure, it wasn't that great, but it wasn't meant to be like the original series. Overall, I enjoyed the film.The whole point of a remake/reboot is so that its not like the original series and it trys to do something else different for a new generation.

Cause if they wanna see the old ones they can still go back and view them.

[The Apatow Crew]

That's what I keep saying, its' Rob Zombie's Halloween. John Carpenter had his, Rob Zombie has his and one day, someone else will have theirs.And those people will go "Why can't they come up with their own ideas? Instead of stealing other people's?"

[Spider-ManHero12]

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[ABleedingCorpse]

Well Apatow, appearently these "die-hards" copies of JC's Halloween were destroyed the moment RZ's Halloween was released.

[Spider-ManHero12]

The whole point of a remake/reboot is so that its not like the original series and it trys to do something else different for a new generation.

Cause if they wanna see the old ones they can still go back and view them. Exactly! Just like Rob said on the Halloween (2007) DVD special features. "Carpenters version is there. You can just go back and watch it, so why remake it?", I don't understand why people just don't get this.

[Spider-ManHero12]

That's what I keep saying, its' Rob Zombie's Halloween. John Carpenter had his, Rob Zombie has his and one day, someone else will have theirs. Very true, indeed.

[ABleedingCorpse]

And those people will go "Why can't they come up with their own ideas? Instead of stealing other people's?"

And then when an original new film comes out, they'll say "This sucks...isn't this ripping off *insert film*??"

[The Apatow Crew]

Well Apatow, appearently these "die-hards" copies of JC's Halloween were destroyed the moment RZ's Halloween was released.I guess my Halloween dvd i had bought a few weeks before RZ's came out has disappeared. I don't see it anymore.

Along with my copies of the original Fog,Last House,F13 and i'm sure my NOES dvd will do the same next year.:o:wow:

Better call unsolved mysteries.

[The Apatow Crew]

And then when an original new film comes out, they'll say "This sucks...isn't this ripping off *insert film*??"Or their be that was dumb, it was nothing like so and so.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Oh man, I love how this sequel is sounding. I mean, think about it. Rob is not remaking ANYTHING this time around, I don't think. I just really can't wait to see what HUGE and creepy/iconic Michael Meyer's scene we'll see in this movie. Hopefully they come up with something awesome.

[ABleedingCorpse]

I guess my Halloween dvd i had bought a few weeks before RZ's came out has disappeared. I don't see it anymore.

Along with my copies of the original Fog,Last House,F13 and i'm sure my NOES dvd will do the same next year.:o:wow:

Better call unsolved mysteries.

I locked all my copies of films that have been remade in a lock box. I'm sure they're safe...I'm sure of it. :oldrazz: Though, my copy of Psycho does look pretty distorted I do believe. haha Damn remake!

[ABleedingCorpse]

Oh man, I love how this sequel is sounding. I mean, think about it. Rob is not remaking ANYTHING this time around, I don't think. I just really can't wait to see what HUGE and creepy/iconic Michael Meyer's scene we'll see in this movie. Hopefully they come up with something awesome.

I saw a few videos of them filming Tyler walking down a street. It wasn't a great video, but appearently he's not wearing the mask and walking very oddly, as if dazed and confused, down the street. I think that should be interesting.

But who knows what all Rob's setting up. He set up several things and shot a lot of stuff for Halloween that was never used.

[The Apatow Crew]

I locked all my copies of films that have been remade in a lock box. I'm sure they're safe...I'm sure of it. :oldrazz: Though, my copy of Psycho does look pretty distorted I do believe. haha Damn remake!It was David Blaine who made them all disappear by just by sitting on a chair high up on a wire.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Indeed, I saw that video. Pretty cool seeing/knowing Michael will dress that way for a part of the film. I find it a bit creepy actually. I'm curious about something though. What will be the death toll in this film?

[The Apatow Crew]

Oh man, I love how this sequel is sounding. I mean, think about it. Rob is not remaking ANYTHING this time around, I don't think. I just really can't wait to see what HUGE and creepy/iconic Michael Meyer's scene we'll see in this movie. Hopefully they come up with something awesome.It's kinda weird to think the films gonna be out in 5 and a half months. In August of this year.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yeah, I know what you mean. Is it me, or did news about this film just explode out of random? I mean, we got news almost every week, and still are.

[The Apatow Crew]

^^ Indeed, I saw that video. Pretty cool seeing/knowing Michael will dress that way for a part of the film. I find it a bit creepy actually. I'm curious about something though. What will be the death toll in this film?I'm guessing from the casting call thing that was put out a while ago, more then the first one.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ yeah, good point. Michael will probably be even more agressive in this one, I must say.

[The Apatow Crew]

Yeah, I know what you mean. Is it me, or did news about this film just explode out of random? I mean, we got news almost every week, and still are.i guess Rob is putting stuff out, trying to get the fans excited and showing bits and pieces of what to come.

[ABleedingCorpse]

It's kinda weird to think the films gonna be out in 5 and a half months. In August of this year.

It's like 80's style made....just come up with an idea, start filming and worry about the details during production...and edit it while your directing. haha. Ed Wood must be so proud that people still use his direction technique.

[The Apatow Crew]

^^ yeah, good point. Michael will probably be even more agressive in this one, I must say.I mean who wouldn't be more agressive or pissed off, after getting shot in the head and living.

[Spider-ManHero12]

i guess Rob is putting stuff out, trying to get the fans excited and showing bits and pieces of what to come. Yeah, very true. Another thing I'm curious about is when we will get an official picture of michael. IMO, it doesn't matter which dressed Michael. While he's wearing the mask or without the mask and wearing the hoodie. Personally, I think Rob might be saving the first glimpse of Michael in the hoodie for the film.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Yeah, very true. Another thing I'm curious about is when we will get an official picture of michael. IMO, it doesn't matter which dressed Michael. While he's wearing the mask or without the mask and wearing the hoodie. Personally, I think Rob might be saving the first glimpse of Michael in the hoodie for the film.

Was it a hoodie he had on? Video quality sucked, I couldn't tell, but I knew it wasn't his jumpsuit. Mmm.....starting to ponder this whole thing. Rob's got 'something' going on that I want to know about. What is Michael up to? Him walking about, without his mask, in different cloths.....possibly escaped from the morgue, killed someone for their cloths? Wonder how he'll get the mask back? That whole video has me thinking about what the hell Michael is up to.

[ABleedingCorpse]

So I'm hearing now and looking out side my window....it's been snowing lately.....um...wonder if it's making it tough to film stuff at the moment?

[The Apatow Crew]

Yeah, very true. Another thing I'm curious about is when we will get an official picture of michael. IMO, it doesn't matter which dressed Michael. While he's wearing the mask or without the mask and wearing the hoodie. Personally, I think Rob might be saving the first glimpse of Michael in the hoodie for the film.I say maybe april weget a first good pic and maybe a teaser trailer sometime in May.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Was it a hoodie he had on? Video quality sucked, I couldn't tell, but I knew it wasn't his jumpsuit. Mmm.....starting to ponder this whole thing. Rob's got 'something' going on that I want to know about. What is Michael up to? Him walking about, without his mask, in different cloths.....possibly escaped from the morgue, killed someone for their cloths? Wonder how he'll get the mask back? That whole video has me thinking about what the hell Michael is up to. Yewp, he's wearing a hoodie, has a beard, and I think he has a duffle bag as well.

[The Original Bamfer]

What's this video y'all are talking about?

[The Apatow Crew]

What's this video y'all are talking about?I haven't seen it, but i guess its a behind the scenes vid wit Tyler.

[Nightmare]

^^ yeah, good point. Michael will probably be even more agressive in this one, I must say.

Yeah, I expect some more brutal kills in this one. I expect rob zombie to go even more over the top with the blood using gallons and gallons in this one. :cwink:

[ABleedingCorpse]

I haven't seen it, but i guess its a behind the scenes vid wit Tyler.

Some locals over in Atlanta were watching them film outside their house and captured a video of them filming Tyler walking down the neighborhood street in what appears to be street cloths and no mask. Has the long hair and beard, but he's walking very strangly, as I meantioned before.

[Norman Bates]

"ooo..look at me, I'm a director, I know things and I judge others work and criticize other "directors" (i use that term loosely)."

Oh please, first off...you go make a million dollar film and come back and tells us if that worked out for you and so I can criticize you left and right about how you did things.

Every director's different and carry a styles that are either copies (like the majority) or slightly new and interesting.

And for all the people here, Zombie's version of the Myers family could have very well been an actual family. I have had friends who come from crappy disfunctional houses and for some reason, that family looked a bit tame. I just think people who hate it either have a personal dislike for Zombie or feel he did something YOU didn't want.

First off, you're pretty rude.

Second off, I'll address your post even though I find your pedestal in this thread pretty friggin' annoying. Almost as if you're offended by my disdain for Zombie. Get over it. He's a hack.

If I made a multi million dollar studio film, I would expect you to criticize me left and right. That's what's done, right? That's what these forums are here for, correct? Discussions, criticisms, etc. You have a problem with this? I don't understand. Anyway..

Every director's different and carry a styles that are either copies (like the majority) or slightly new and interesting.

Thank you for explaining that to me, you learn something new every day. :whatever:

When two different films from the same director seem virtually the same (even when it comes to cast), then I see a lack of talent on the director. He's a one trick pony. Sorry..

And for all the people here, Zombie's version of the Myers family could have very well been an actual family.

Stop being naive. Of course there are families out there like that. But those are the only families Zombie is capable of writing about. Zombies writing is pathetically predictable. I prefer someone taking on a movie like this to maybe have at LEAST read a book on screenwriting. He clearly has not.

I'm not looking for JC's Halloween, or Shakespeare's Halloween, just not "hillbilly make it up as I go along Halloween". Apparently you're happy with it, I'm not. Boo hoo. :whatever:

[ABleedingCorpse]

You know, I wouldn't have been so rude if you wouldn't have come in here acting all "I too am a director, and Rob Zombie is a horrible one" in the first place. That right there, sets you up to be a prick. If you would have just spared us this 'unknown' director crap line and just gave your opinion, it would go down like every other post in this thread, a debate...but you opted to make yourself seem 'worthy', 'high class' and 'special'.

You use words like 'hack' to describe a director, when you claim to be a director yourself. You sound like a bitter person who can't catch their break. Tell me, Mr. Director, what films and others works have you worked on? Some YouTube video? A digital short? Something you did as a project for yourself? Let me guess, you're another 'film student' who's going to make it big one day and you'll show "them", but first you're going to stop by a forum and post that a director who is filming a slasher flick (by the way, shhh, but it's the low form of entertainment...stuff directors aren't taken seriously about) is a hack. Nice work.

"How rude"

[The Apatow Crew]

You know i had a long drawn out speech, but when i hit enter it didn't take.

I don't feel like saying it again. the short point, people just give themselve a name to make them sound important to others.

I write screenplays but i don't go around saying thats not how i would do it or such. Cause I don't wanna sound like coming like an *******.

[Norman Bates]

You know, I wouldn't have been so rude if you wouldn't have come in here acting all "I too am a director, and Rob Zombie is a horrible one" in the first place. That right there, sets you up to be a prick. If you would have just spared us this 'unknown' director crap line and just gave your opinion, it would go down like every other post in this thread, a debate...but you opted to make yourself seem 'worthy', 'high class' and 'special'.

You use words like 'hack' to describe a director, when you claim to be a director yourself. You sound like a bitter person who can't catch their break. Tell me, Mr. Director, what films and others works have you worked on? Some YouTube video? A digital short? Something you did as a project for yourself? Let me guess, you're another 'film student' who's going to make it big one day and you'll show "them", but first you're going to stop by a forum and post that a director who is filming a slasher flick (by the way, shhh, but it's the low form of entertainment...stuff directors aren't taken seriously about) is a hack. Nice work.

"How rude"

Wow. You feel very strongly about Mr. Zombie. That whole post was one big personal attack. Cool it.

[Norman Bates]

---not worth it.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Hey, leave my lackey out of this. *note to Apatow...you're not my lackey...sidekick maybe....just messing*

Mr. Bates....you proved my point. Thank You. Now go back to waiting tables and passing that "big screen idea" of yours around to people you wait on.

Brillant movies....hahaha, that's too funny. Wait, Norman, you aren't Uwe Boll are you?? He's the only person.oops, Director, I can think of that would have the time to waste in a forum complaining about how "other" directors are actually working, being dissed and critecized, and yet still making million dollar studio films.

[The Original Bamfer]

Alright kids, enough.

[The Apatow Crew]

---not worth it.Go ahead and say it. Don't be a little whiny ***** and post something then erase it.

You wanna say something about me, say it, if not shut the hell up. Its either you do or you don't.

You wanna say oh your not a real writer or any of that other bs, go ahead and say it. you wanna say my stuff sucks, say it, cause i don't care.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Go ahead and say it. Don't be a little whiny ***** and post something then erase it.

You wanna say something about me, say it, if not shut the hell up. Its either you do or you don't.

You wanna say oh your not a real writer or any of that other bs, go ahead and say it. you wanna say my stuff sucks, say it, cause i don't care.

It's cool man, let it go. He's a hack. Cool down, don't get all worked up about a hack and get banned over some little crap about what a hack says on the internet. Remember the golden saying, even if you win on the internet, you're still a loser...or get a troll point and that s*** ain't cool.

Now if you excuse me, Rob Zombie called and needs his ass kissed some more, so I'll be leaveing now. *his ass smells like roses...hehe*

[The Apatow Crew]

Oh, i'm fine, it just gets on my nerves when people do that.

back to the thread now. lol.

[Norman Bates]

Hey, leave my lackey out of this. *note to Apatow...you're not my lackey...sidekick maybe....just messing*

Mr. Bates....you proved my point. Thank You. Now go back to waiting tables and passing that "big screen idea" of yours around to people you wait on.

Brillant movies....hahaha, that's too funny. Wait, Norman, you aren't Uwe Boll are you?? He's the only person.oops, Director, I can think of that would have the time to waste in a forum complaining about how "other" directors are actually working, being dissed and critecized, and yet still making million dollar studio films.

Ignorance. You're like talking to a wall. Really shows your character though. I may have said something unfavorable to you but that does not give you the right to personally attack me as you have. I can see if I personally insulted you.

Question.. How does criticizing Rob Zombie's creative talent warrant you to personally bash me? Just curious..

[Norman Bates]

Go ahead and say it. Don't be a little whiny ***** and post something then erase it.

You wanna say something about me, say it, if not shut the hell up. Its either you do or you don't.

You wanna say oh your not a real writer or any of that other bs, go ahead and say it. you wanna say my stuff sucks, say it, cause i don't care.

First of all, I was responding to a post of you referring to me being an "ahole". Then I stopped my fast little fingers and realized it's not worth responding to someone whose first interaction with me is calling me an "ahole" when I never called them anything of the sort. All I did was criticize Rob Zombie which apparently really REALLY strikes a nerve.

[Marx]

So HOW 'BOUT THAT ZOMBIE HALLOWEEN SEQUEL???

[ABleedingCorpse]

So HOW 'BOUT THAT ZOMBIE HALLOWEEN SEQUEL???

In my opinion....it's off to a good start. The next month of filming and getting leaks will be fun. I want to see more of Tyler as Michael footage. Still can't get over how odd Michael seemed in the video.

[The Apatow Crew]

So HOW 'BOUT THAT ZOMBIE HALLOWEEN SEQUEL???Yep, so when do you think a trailer will be out?

[Marx]

Yep, so when do you think a trailer will be out?

That's a good question. Has there even been an official release date announced yet?

[ABleedingCorpse]

Yep, so when do you think a trailer will be out?

5 months 'til it's realease......wonder if it'll get pushed back a little? I'd say about June and we'll get an actual trailer, but maybe as soon as early May we'll get a teaser.

[The Apatow Crew]

That's a good question. Has there even been an official release date announced yet?Well, the films suppose to come out august of this year. But i think the release date might be pushed back. it seems kinda impossible to get it done and have a good product, without rushing.

[ABleedingCorpse]

I'd say just take their time with this one, dont' rush it, and release it closer to mid-October. It'll be almost out of theaters by the time Halloween actually arrives and then people will be like "wha? It's Halloween and I can't go see Halloween 2? Lame" and we know it will NOT be on DVD by Halloween. haha

[Marx]

I'd say just take their time with this one, dont' rush it, and release it closer to mid-October. It'll be almost out of theaters by the time Halloween actually arrives and then people will be like "wha? It's Halloween and I can't go see Halloween 2? Lame" and we know it will NOT be on DVD by Halloween. haha

I agree. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[The Apatow Crew]

I agree though. I guess they don't wanna come out in Oct cause of Saw 6. Cause its rumored to be the last one for a couple of years.

[ABleedingCorpse]

However, due to what appears to be a rushed film...Zombie usually spends a lot of time on set filming a lot of things over and over on a schedual. With the budget given, it's a crunch time thing and of course, he'll pull his 'trick' and finish the film, take it to the studio and say 'Hey...I need more stuff...it'll cost money' and the studio will let him go 'reshoot' stuff that he wants fixed. Worked before, and it'll work again.

Film for a month and half, edit edit edit...reshoot...edit edit....watch...edit....finished.

[ABleedingCorpse]

I agree though. I guess they don't wanna come out in Oct cause of Saw 6. Cause its rumored to be the last one for a couple of years.

Well I'd at least like to see something challenge Saw for Halloween. Surely, the public don't really know that it could be the last for a few years nor do they really care. If the general public had a choice, go see the 6th Saw film or see the sequal to Zombie's Halloween, I think Halloween would take it. Not because they would think it's better, but mostly due to it's a change for the first in 6 years and also....HALLOWEEEN IN OCTOBER....a genius doesn't even need to figure that one out.

But playing it 'safe', I get it.

[Johnny Drama]

I agree though. I guess they don't wanna come out in Oct cause of Saw 6. Cause its rumored to be the last one for a couple of years.


Yeah because Jason goes to hell was The Final Friday and Freddys Dead was the final nightmare lol :woot:

[K.B.]

Meyers is sporting a big beastly Grizzley Adams beard in the new leaked photos :huh:

Isn't this supposed to take place the day (or 3 days) after the end of the first?

[JustABill]

No, it's a year after I believe.

[Heretic]

As far as Saw goes...its ripe for the picking...part 5 really turned a lot of people off to that franchise.

Halloween should come out around Halloween, its kind of stupid to release it at any other time.

However, Im all for a Sandman yearly series to replace Saw.

[theShape]

Anyone see the new pics of Tyler Mane without the mask walking around? He looks like Rob Zombie. I don't really know what to say here because I don't want to be attacked by Rob's defenders but....he looks absolutely ridiculous, with a little spot of the blood on the corner of his head where he was conveniently shot, and his face is ghost white, What the hell?

[theShape]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=53426

[Nivek]

I agree though. I guess they don't wanna come out in Oct cause of Saw 6. Cause its rumored to be the last one for a couple of years.


A Halloween movie should not be worried about being released with another stupid Saw film in October. It's bad enough that "thiller" is labelled as a Horror film, but to work around October? Pathetic. Is Mirimax or the Weinstiens still distributing the Halloween Franchise now?

[Norman Bates]

Anyone see the new pics of Tyler Mane without the mask walking around? He looks like Rob Zombie. I don't really know what to say here because I don't want to be attacked by Rob's defenders but....he looks absolutely ridiculous, with a little spot of the blood on the corner of his head where he was conveniently shot, and his face is ghost white, What the hell?

Looks like we'll finally be getting the The Devils Rejects movie we never saw.. "Devils Rejects 2: The Lost Chronicles of Rufus". :o

[The Apatow Crew]

A Halloween movie should not be worried about being released with another stupid Saw film in October. It's bad enough that "thiller" is labelled as a Horror film, but to work around October? Pathetic. Is Mirimax or the Weinstiens still distributing the Halloween Franchise now?I think its dimension who;'s doing so. and they're releasing it in august, since the remake did so well also. aI think it was a 30 million some weekend, and they're hoping for the same.

[Johnny Drama]

Myers looks like a hobo. If his beard shows through the mask, I am offically not interested.

[The Apatow Crew]

Maybe he was in a comma for so long and that's why he has a beard?

Or they're just prepping stuff and he hasn't shaved yet.

[Johnny Drama]

Maybe he was in a comma for so long and that's why he has a beard?

Or they're just prepping stuff and he hasn't shaved yet.


Well, he has white make-up on so I doubt they are still prepping. As for the coma, that could work. It would explain why Michael was dormant for a year. If they just had him escape from Smithsgrove again that would just be redundant.

[The Apatow Crew]

Daeg Confirms His Exit From Haddonfield, New Image

Over on his official MySpace page, Daeg Faerch confirmed the news we reported last night (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15466) that he has officially been recast as young Michael Myers in Rob Zombie's now filming H2 (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/film/1612). "SADLY, although I was contracted to reprise the role of young Michael Myers in the upcoming H2 (Halloween 2, 2009) after filming briefly on the set in GA, I am to be recast due to my increased height," reports Daeg. Beyond the break you can check out an image of Daeg on set with Rob and Sheri Moon, a scene I'm assuming will be cut from the final film when it hits theaters August 28th.

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/photosizer/timthumb.php?src=/photosizer/upload/h2030409.jpg&w=600&zc=0 (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/photosizer/upload/h2030409.jpg)
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15479

[The Apatow Crew]

Well, he has white make-up on so I doubt they are still prepping. As for the coma, that could work. It would explain why Michael was dormant for a year. If they just had him escape from Smithsgrove again that would just be redundant.Maybe he just escaped from the hopsital after masscaring a bunch of people there to get to laurie.

[K.B.]

That really sucks cuz I thought he did an awesome job as young Meyers.

[Johnny Drama]

Daeg Confirms His Exit From Haddonfield, New Image


http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15479


That sucks. Why the hell would his height would be an issue when Tyler Maine is almost 7 feet tall. Does he just hit an agressive growth spirt on his 20th b-day or something?

[The Apatow Crew]

That sucks. Why the hell would his height would be an issue when Tyler Maine is almost 7 feet tall. Does he just hit an agressive growth spirt on his 20th b-day or something?I don't know. i guess they don't want Young micheal being taller then his mom. Even though sheri is listing as being 5'10. Which is tall for a woman, and he must be like over 6 feet now.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Tyler has been growing that beard for the past year....before H2 talk even began....and trust me, when it comes to men who spend a year growing a beard, regardless of who they are and what they do....you will have to offer that person nearly the world to shave it off.

Michael with a beard...it's cool. I mean, the stuff with Michael is prolly going to take place a year after the last film, and really....think about it...if you were Michael, would you take the time to shave or care about how you look?

[Johnny Drama]

I don't know. i guess they don't want Young micheal being taller then his mom. Even though sheri is listing as being 5'10. Which is tall for a woman, and he must be like over 6 feet now.


Still, they could have used movie magic to make Daeg appear shorter, and even if not, I could deal with him being a foot or so taller rather than have his physical appearance completley altered...

I swear, it seems like the flashback scenes are just an excuse for Zombie to put his wife in yet another one of his films....

[Johnny Drama]

Tyler has been growing that beard for the past year....before H2 talk even began....and trust me, when it comes to men who spend a year growing a beard, regardless of who they are and what they do....you will have to offer that person nearly the world to shave it off.

Michael with a beard...it's cool. I mean, the stuff with Michael is prolly going to take place a year after the last film, and really....think about it...if you were Michael, would you take the time to shave or care about how you look?

It just further deviates from the classic Myers look. Don't get me wrong, I liked RZ's Halloween, but he is getting more and more removed from Carpentars. Eventually the only similararities will be there name...

[The Apatow Crew]

The young micheal scenes just seem like throw away scenes.

In the link they said that one scene will prolly be deleted they filmed with Daeg and Sheri.

[ABleedingCorpse]

I don't know. i guess they don't want Young micheal being taller then his mom. Even though sheri is listing as being 5'10. Which is tall for a woman, and he must be like over 6 feet now.

Look at the photo....he looks nothing like he did from the remake...except of course for being Daeg and having long blonde hair. Sucks that he's gone, but whatever, it's just one of those things. If Daeg had stayed, people would get on here and moan about how stupid it looks that young Michael has changed completely between films. It's a lose/lose situation, but it has to be done one way or another and either way is going to get people riled up.

Now lets get back to Laurie being a prostiute and her old man pimp.

[ABleedingCorpse]

It just further deviates from the classic Myers look. Don't get me wrong, I liked RZ's Halloween, but he is getting more and more removed from Carpentars. Eventually the only similararities will be there name...

Michael having a beard?? I don't remember what Mike looking like underneath the mask had to do with any of the previous films. It's the mask that makes it...and Michael will have the mask, I assure you, but there's moments where I guess he won't have it on now...which I'm cool with.

Remember, NOT Carpenter's Halloween here...its' definatly NOT that....it's Zombie's Halloween and taht's how you need to look at things.

*after reading my comments..I do sound like I kiss Rob's ass....but it's really not like that, I just support what he's doing because I like seeing this 'different' side of the story*

[The Apatow Crew]

Now if Micheal starts selling Moonshine then you have something to worry about.:woot:

[ABleedingCorpse]

The young micheal scenes just seem like throw away scenes.

In the link they said that one scene will prolly be deleted they filmed with Daeg and Sheri.

I'm pretty sure it's gone by now. haha. They do seem like pointless scenes at the moment, but I'm hoping it really has to do with what's going on in Michael's head. There were gaps in the remake that still made Mikes reasoning odd to kill. *BUT THERE'S NO REASON, THAT'S WHY IT'S HALLOWEEN...HE'S JUST EVIL....once again, not JC's Halloween* Surely there's a plot point to the flashbacks or whatever they are....

[The Apatow Crew]

I'm pretty sure it's gone by now. haha. They do seem like pointless scenes at the moment, but I'm hoping it really has to do with what's going on in Michael's head. There were gaps in the remake that still made Mikes reasoning odd to kill. *BUT THERE'S NO REASON, THAT'S WHY IT'S HALLOWEEN...HE'S JUST EVIL....once again, not JC's Halloween* Surely there's a plot point to the flashbacks or whatever they are....And cause i'm sure when you get shot in the head and live, you must see somee pretty messed up stuff or even past memorys.

[Cagefighterkip]

Yeah because Jason goes to hell was The Final Friday and Freddys Dead was the final nightmare lol :woot:

exactly lol
and f13 tried finishing off the franchise before JGTH (friday 4: final chapter lol followed by a new beginning) came out lol

horror franchises are, while cool, how you say... INDECISIVE.

[Cagefighterkip]

too bad about Daeg being ***** - canned.
he rocked in H1...
hopefully whoever they get to replace him is just as good. that kid has a massive amount of talent for some1 so young... itll be tough shoes to fill IMO

[Sawyer]

Daeg played the role well, but he just looks too much like Dakota Fanning for me to take him seriously as young Michael.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Kick ass Michael image! Also, it really is sad that Daeg isn't returning.

[Sarge 2.0]

As a director, he should be more observational to the world around him.

I'm a director myself and just because I was raised in white New York suburbia doesn't mean I couldn't do a reasonable amount of research to write/direct a film that focuses on 1970's east LA neighborhoods. It doesn't seem like Zombie is a patient enough "writer" (and I use the term loosely) to do such a thing.

Now, I don't know what his process is when giving himself to a project, but judging by H1 and the story structure, not only did it look like he did absolutely no research on the American family he was trying to portray but it also looks like he didn't write an outline, a character analysis, or a treatment. Looks like he dove right into the script and it shows. It looks as if he was making it up as he went along.
Rob Zombie's work has a Russ Meyer-esque subversive, satirical edge. It's gallows humor. It's not supposed to be "realistic".

Also, regarding your complaint that Zombie seemed to "Make it up as he went along" - which I doubt - I would ask "So what?" David Lynch makes up stuff as he goes along too. I don't see you complaining about him anywhere.

[Doctor Jones]

Wow, why do they have to recast? Couldn't it just be rewritten as more years have gone by in the institution?

[Johnny Drama]

Wow, why do they have to recast? Couldn't it just be rewritten as more years have gone by in the institution?


Because the flashbacks are just there so Rob Zombie has an excuse to put his wife back in the movie.

[Marx]

Wow, why do they have to recast? Couldn't it just be rewritten as more years have gone by in the institution?

That makes too much sense Doctor.

[Cagefighterkip]

Because the flashbacks are just there so Rob Zombie has an excuse to put his wife back in the movie.

to be honest, while your theory is valid,
i doubt that -- i think if he didn't do flashbacks he would doll sheri moon up to look waaay different and put her in a different (and prolly smaller) role.

the young michael scenes are (imo) added to add humanity and depth to michael meyers. some dont like that, some (inlcuding myself and obviously rob zombie) do. im just saying young michael in the institution days are there to humanize michel, not to give his wife a role. but thats just my theory, i could be way off.

[Cagefighterkip]

Wow, why do they have to recast? Couldn't it just be rewritten as more years have gone by in the institution?

i just thought of this, but sheri moon killed herself when michael was that age in the first movie... commited suicide while watching home movies... too many years cant pass since she'd be dead.

[Johnny Drama]

Michael having a beard?? I don't remember what Mike looking like underneath the mask had to do with any of the previous films. It's the mask that makes it...and Michael will have the mask, I assure you, but there's moments where I guess he won't have it on now...which I'm cool with.

Remember, NOT Carpenter's Halloween here...its' definatly NOT that....it's Zombie's Halloween and taht's how you need to look at things.

*after reading my comments..I do sound like I kiss Rob's ass....but it's really not like that, I just support what he's doing because I like seeing this 'different' side of the story*

You see his face in Haloween 1 and Halloween 5. And I know it's not carpenters Halloween, and I liked the remake, but I really think the more Zombie puts his stamp on the character, the less it feels like Halloween and more like Devils Rejects meets Friday The 13th.

I am sure I will enjoy this as I enjoyed the first, I just wish RZ would have a little more respect for the source material.

I mean, if someone new directed the next Indiana Jones movie and made Indy a 7 foot marine, in the 70's with an abusive father, would it be right for me to say "This is NOT George Lucas' Indy, This is Michael Bays Indiana Jones and we need to accept that"...
Well that wouldn't be right. I think RZ still could have put his own creative spin on the character without completley altering the iconic appearance of Michael Myers.

[Marx]

i just thought of this, but sheri moon killed herself when michael was that age in the first movie... commited suicide while watching home movies... too many years cant pass since she'd be dead.

I thought that was a very powerful scene.

[Cagefighterkip]

I thought that was a very powerful scene.

oh i agree -
she did a damn fine job in the role. i know im the minority but i rly dug rob's H1 back in 2007

[Majik1387]

First off, your avy scares me.
Secondly,
You see his face in Haloween 1
What part? Granted it's been a while since I've seen it, but I only remember seeing it when he's an adult in part 5

[Majik1387]

I thought that was a very powerful scene.
oh i agree -
she did a damn fine job in the role. i know im the minority but i rly dug rob's H1 back in 2007
I agree, though I would have liked to have seen what was in the original script as well.

[Cagefighterkip]

What part? Granted it's been a while since I've seen it, but I only remember seeing it when he's an adult in part 5

i think he means seeing young michaels face in the opening of the original halloween

[Cagefighterkip]

I agree, though I would have liked to have seen what was in the original script as well.

i have rob zombies HALLOWEEN remake script in pdf format on my laptop. when i get off work if you like, i can email it to you -- if so, gimme your email address.

[Majik1387]

i think he means seeing young michaels face in the opening of the original halloween
Ah, ok.
i have rob zombies HALLOWEEN remake script in pdf format on my laptop. when i get off work if you like, i can email it to you -- if so, gimme your email address.
Oh, I have the script in pdf as well, I meant I would have liked to have seen the scene that I read in the script.

[Johnny Drama]

to be honest, while your theory is valid,
i doubt that -- i think if he didn't do flashbacks he would doll sheri moon up to look waaay different and put her in a different (and prolly smaller) role.

the young michael scenes are (imo) added to add humanity and depth to michael meyers. some dont like that, some (inlcuding myself and obviously rob zombie) do. im just saying young michael in the institution days are there to humanize michel, not to give his wife a role. but thats just my theory, i could be way off.


"The young Michael" angle did work very well for the first one,
but is completley unneccesary for a sequel. Further more, the fact that they recast young Michael, rather than showcaseing him as a pre-teen under Loomis' watch, tells me that it was more important for Zombie to have Sherri Moon in the movie than it was to further explore Michael's history, and it was more important than keeping the most interesting element form the 1st one, Daeg.

[Cagefighterkip]

Oh, I have the script in pdf as well, I meant I would have liked to have seen the scene that I read in the script.

OOOOOOH
ok lol i was confused woops

[Johnny Drama]

First off, your avy scares me.
Secondly,

What part? Granted it's been a while since I've seen it, but I only remember seeing it when he's an adult in part 5

At the end, Michales mask is briefly removed when he was strangling Laurie, I believe.

[Norman Bates]

Rob Zombie's work has a Russ Meyer-esque subversive, satirical edge. It's gallows humor. It's not supposed to be "realistic".

Also, regarding your complaint that Zombie seemed to "Make it up as he went along" - which I doubt - I would ask "So what?" David Lynch makes up stuff as he goes along too. I don't see you complaining about him anywhere.

You can analyze someones art until you're blue in the face, but the fact you see that doesn't mean he's intentionally doing it, and I'm not convinced he is either.

Also, there's a difference between making it up as you go along while having the competence of getting away with it rather than making it up as you go along and clearly giving off the impression you have no idea where to take the story.

[Spider-ManHero12]

At the end, Michales mask is briefly removed when he was strangling Laurie, I believe. Indeed, and, IMO, that scene has always been so intense.

[The Apatow Crew]

wow, alot of people in here all of a sudden. lol.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Yes, adult Michael's face can be seen twice in the orignal Halloween. He had short hair and clean shaved, young guy, 21 years old. First time you see it was when he jumped on the car when he escaped, second was when Laurie tugged it off before she fell down the steps. You barely see a dead eye'd face of Michael for like 2 seconds before he puts the mask back on. In Halloween 2, we see....you guessed it folks, flashbacks from LAURIE.... (omg god...I get the reason for the flashbacks now in H2...think about it for a second, it's a bit far fetched...but just think about it) and you see a teenaged Michael sitting in a chair and he turns to Laurie.

Part 5 his face is shown again...though in shadow when his niece get's him to take it off...because...ya know, Michael is indeed human underneath all the evil and to some degree, can show 'compassion' for a few seconds.

We then never see his face again until the remake. And we all know what he looked like, a very tall, long haired man with 5 o'clock shadow. Michael actually looks like he's been in an instatution and nobody wants to say to him "we need to cut your hair".

This is a different version of Michael...he's more human, he's complex and insane. It's not as simple as before where it's just "He's evil" and that's it. We've seen that story and how it played out. Doing that same thing over again would be pointless. So the next thing to do is develope that character and put layers over it, flesh it out and have Michael be Michael, and not just a force, a shape of evil.

[ABleedingCorpse]

The Black Bunny site notes that;

(4) What was said to be the opening shot of H2 was filmed on Floyd Street between Elm and East Streets. Laurie Strode walking down the street with Loomis's gun; supposed to be what happened right after she shot Micheal Myers in Part 1.
He also described the scene that was going to take place. This was, technically, the first scene in the movie. It is after Laurie Strode shot Micheal. It is (supposed to be) around 5am. She is bloody and walking down the street with Loomis's gun. The police car pulls up behind her as she walks. CUT.

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[I]]**know that they shoot in Newborn next and they will be shooting for several (like a week) days. I know they are filming "The Brackett House".

The Brackett House....I forget, but is Harris and Dourif signed on for the sequal? Don't see their names in casting.

[The Apatow Crew]

In the original Halloween.

The person who gets unmasked was just hired for that part. Cause they thought Micheal should be this clean cut looking young boy.

And thats all the guy really did in that little scene. Suhow his face for a few secs, then put the mask back on.

[The Apatow Crew]

The Black Bunny site notes that;

(4) What was said to be the opening shot of H2 was filmed on Floyd Street between Elm and East Streets. Laurie Strode walking down the street with Loomis's gun; supposed to be what happened right after she shot Micheal Myers in Part 1.
He also described the scene that was going to take place. This was, technically, the first scene in the movie. It is after Laurie Strode shot Micheal. It is (supposed to be) around 5am. She is bloody and walking down the street with Loomis's gun. The police car pulls up behind her as she walks. CUT.

[/I

[I]]**know that they shoot in Newborn next and they will be shooting for several (like a week) days. I know they are filming "The Brackett House".

The Brackett House....I forget, but is Harris and Dourif signed on for the sequal? Don't see their names in casting.I think Harris is, but don't know about dourif.

[ABleedingCorpse]

In the original Halloween.

The person who gets unmasked was just hired for that part. Cause they thought Micheal should be this clean cut looking young boy.

And thats all the guy really did in that little scene. Suhow his face for a few secs, then put the mask back on.

I dont' blame them. Have you seen the guy who played masked Michael? LOL.

[The Apatow Crew]

I dont' blame them. Have you seen the guy who played masked Michael? LOL.Yeah, he was kinda goofy looking. Nick Castle.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Yeah, Nick Castle. He's definatly not 'pretty boy'.

[The Apatow Crew]

Yeah, Nick Castle. He's definatly not 'pretty boy'.I saw him on the Halloween 25 years of terror doc.

[Showtime]

I really hope this flick was better then the 1st one which I don't think can hold a candle to the original.

[ABleedingCorpse]

What amazes me is the mask they used on Halloween and Halloween 2. Believe it or not, it's the same mask. Though they look different in both films, Debra Hill kept the mask under her bed and pulled it out for the sequal. The reason it looks different is becasue of many reasons, 1. Castle and Warwicks heads were different, Castle's being long headed and Warwick being wide-headed, the mask fit differantly. Secondly, lighting...the tone and lighting of the original sequal was different than the first one.

I found that hard to believe because they look completely different, but I remember Debra Hill stating it was the same mask in an interview years ago.

[Nivek]

Yeah, he was kinda goofy looking. Nick Castle.


Director of The Boy who could Fly.

[Showtime]

...The Last Starfighter I believe.

[The Apatow Crew]

Director of The Boy who could Fly.Don't think i've ever seen it.

[Johnny Drama]

I really hope this flick was better then the 1st one which I don't think can hold a candle to the original.


Agreed, the remake was great but the original is THE perfect horror film.