'H2', Rob Zombie's sequel to 'Halloween'

[Episode29]

Director of The Boy who could Fly.

I was soooo in love with Lucy Deakins as a youngster...:woot:

[Sarge 2.0]

You can analyze someones art until you're blue in the face, but the fact you see that doesn't mean he's intentionally doing it, and I'm not convinced he is either.

Also, there's a difference between making it up as you go along while having the competence of getting away with it rather than making it up as you go along and clearly giving off the impression you have no idea where to take the story.You're clearly unfamiliar with Rob Zombie in general then. He has an affection for the type of schlock that he deals in that lends itself to black humor. And if you can't glean any of that from watching his films or listening to his music, you're one tin eared director my friend. Whether you appreciate it or not, it's there and it's intentional.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Watch it Sarge, Apatow and I got into it with this guy last night and....well lets just say it doesn't seem worth it, just gets annoying.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I think Harris is, but don't know about dourif. Well, tbh, there are set pictures online of Douriff with a fan. He's dressed in his Sheriff Brackett clothes, so I guess he's in the film.

[JustABill]

I honestly don't think Annie is in the film alot. I feel like she might die from her wounds in the beginning at the hospital or something. Brea Grant being cast as Laurie's BFF strikes me as Annie is dead.

Of course we all know best friends are cannon fodder and Brea will probably die as well.

[Johnny Drama]

I honestly don't think Annie is in the film alot. I feel like she might die from her wounds in the beginning at the hospital or something. Brea Grant being cast as Laurie's BFF strikes me as Annie is dead.

Of course we all know best friends are cannon fodder and Brea will probably die as well.


That is true, I immediatley thought of Rose McGowan from Scream, then the black girl from Scream 2. I am NEVER hanging out with Neve Campbell!! :wow:

[Heretic]

I am never hanging out with Neve Campbell either



Stupid restraining order

[ABleedingCorpse]

I am never hanging out with Neve Campbell either



Stupid restraining order

LQTMS. :grin:

[Metamorpho1977]

They are filming part of this at a coffee shop near me here in Atlanta.

[Spider-ManHero12]

The site has been relaunched! Simply kick ass! :up:
http://www.halloween2-movie.com/

[The Apatow Crew]

Well, tbh, there are set pictures online of Douriff with a fan. He's dressed in his Sheriff Brackett clothes, so I guess he's in the film.Then I say bring it on. Hopefully theres more of him this film.

[JustABill]

The site has been relaunched! Simply kick ass! :up:
http://www.halloween2-movie.com/
''Somebody....please help."

Was that Laurie?! :wow:

[The Apatow Crew]

That is true, I immediatley thought of Rose McGowan from Scream, then the black girl from Scream 2. I am NEVER hanging out with Neve Campbell!! :wow:When your friends with sidney you die [/The Killer]

[ABleedingCorpse]

Sounded like Laurie...sounded errie and creepy...I like it...especially the soft moaning "help"...that's hott....i mean...creepy....no, it's Scout acting...it was hot.

[JustABill]

When your friends with sidney you die [/The Killer]
In all honesty. Sidney's only to blame for her roomie from Scream 2's death. Rose got her own dumb ass killed by trying to get through that doggy door.

Sid, however just had to stay and see who the killer was, leading to the roomie's death.

[The Apatow Crew]

Sounded like Laurie...sounded errie and creepy...I like it...especially the soft moaning "help"...that's hott....i mean...creepy....no, it's Scout acting...it was hot.I had music on when i clicked on it, then i heard the "help" and I was like what? what was that? lol.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Sidney's mother is to blame...filthy whore.

[The Apatow Crew]

In all honesty. Sidney's only to blame for her roomie from Scream 2's death. Rose got her own dumb ass killed by trying to get through that doggy door.

Sid, however just had to stay and see who the killer was, leading to the roomie's death.She was like smart people get the f out of here and were smart people, but she had to see who it was.

I kinda hoped she was gonna die in part 3. lol.:o Always part 4.

[The Apatow Crew]

Sidney's mother is to blame...filthy whore.And let's face it, her mother was no Sharon Stone.

[ABleedingCorpse]

And let's face it, her mother was no Sharon Stone.

Get it, no Sharon Stone *flaps hands back and forth like legs spreading* haha.

[JustABill]

I don't wanna see Sidney die by the hands of some killer going after a new group of teenagers. She's too smart of a horror heroine to go out like that. Then again this is Wes Craven and he had Nancy Thompson go out getting tricked by Freddy Krueger fairly easily.

[ABleedingCorpse]

I don't wanna see Sidney die by the hands of some killer going after a new group of teenagers. She's too smart of a horror heroine to go out like that. Then again this is Wes Craven and he had Nancy Thompson go out getting tricked by Freddy Krueger fairly easily.

Wes didn't have anything to do with that. He wanted her to life, but the studio said 'naw, kill her'.

[The Apatow Crew]

I don't wanna see Sidney die by the hands of some killer going after a new group of teenagers. She's too smart of a horror heroine to go out like that. Then again this is Wes Craven and he had Nancy Thompson go out getting tricked by Freddy Krueger fairly easily.Its either you have her in it for a brief time and killed off or you just see her quick and never again in the film.

The focus will be on new characters.

Well, they prolly thought that was gonna be the last one. He was sadly wrong.

[JustABill]

It's much like they had to dumb down Laurie in Halloween Resurrection to kill her off, I mean that whole plan of hers in the beginning was ridic. Sure she had killed the wrong man before, but is there any question as to this was actually Michael this time. :rolleyes:

[The Apatow Crew]

It's much like they had to dumb down Laurie in Halloween Resurrection to kill her off, I mean that whole plan of hers in the beginning was ridic. Sure she had killed the wrong man before, but is there any question as to this was actually Michael this time. :rolleyes:I guess since he stuck out his hand, like the other guy did. she thought it might have been another guy in the mask like last time.

[ABleedingCorpse]

She was parinoid.

[JustABill]

I guess since he stuck out his hand, like the other guy did. she thought it might have been another guy in the mask like last time.
When the hell would he have time to swap out with anyone? It was obviously him from the moment he busted down her door, she even knew that. I mean it's not like a copycat is gonna track down where she is and come after her.

[The Apatow Crew]

When the hell would he have time to swap out with anyone? It was obviously him from the moment he busted down her door, she even knew that. I mean it's not like a copycat is gonna track down where she is and come after her.I don't know, it's just a big plothole mistake. Im sure there might have been a few seconds while Laurie was on the roof. lol.

[ABleedingCorpse]

I don't know, it's just a big plothole mistake. Im sure there might have been a few seconds while Laurie was on the roof. lol.

lol...cause Mike would switch cloths and mask with someone else, and some how trust that person to walk to the roof, with a knife, swing it at Laurie in a matter of seconds.

[Spider-ManHero12]

''Somebody....please help."

Was that Laurie?! :wow: Think so! That was creepy. :up:

[The Apatow Crew]

lol...cause Mike would switch cloths and mask with someone else, and some how trust that person to walk to the roof, with a knife, swing it at Laurie in a matter of seconds.He could have used the crazy guy who idolized him to do so.

[ABleedingCorpse]

He could have...which reminds me...did Michael make a friend with him?? lol. Michael's just so chile and like "yo, here man, happy birthday...here's a knife I killed my sister with".

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Lol. :woot:

[JustABill]

He could have...which reminds me...did Michael make a friend with him?? lol. Michael's just so chile and like "yo, here man, happy birthday...here's a knife I killed my sister with".
That whole movie is a disaster. A couple years ago I would have probably said the only part that was good was the beginning with Laurie, but even that was so immensely ****ed up.

[ABleedingCorpse]

You know, if they continued that series of films, what I would have like to see is Laurie come back to life and stalk Michael. I mean, if Michael can come back to life after being shot up and exploded...surely his sister could share that same ability.

[Norman Bates]

Watch it Sarge, Apatow and I got into it with this guy last night and....well lets just say it doesn't seem worth it, just gets annoying.

No, I've seen Sarge enough around these parts to know he's mature enough to keep a debate civil without automatically resulting to personal insults, which my friend, is frustrating.

Moving on..

You're clearly unfamiliar with Rob Zombie in general then. He has an affection for the type of schlock that he deals in that lends itself to black humor. And if you can't glean any of that from watching his films or listening to his music, you're one tin eared director my friend. Whether you appreciate it or not, it's there and it's intentional.

I see that he does such stuff, but I will refuse to admit he does it well. In fact I feel it's done more inappropriately than anything. I feel it works out of context for a Halloween film, way out of context actually.

The way you worded your last post made it seem like he has intentional references or something. I just see it as Zombie being Zombie with his over the top inappropriate crudeness. I do not appreciate it, you have that right but I recognize it's supposed to be humorous ..to someone out there.

Let me elaborate the point I was trying to make with the director comment. I was merely just trying to say I know the process, because I do it. Not that I'm good, or I should be praised. If that was the impression you received, well, I won't apologize because I said nothing of the nature, that's what you assumed (Not directing this at you Sarge, just putting it out there, sometimes I forget this is the internet, and a lot of things need to be spelled out for some). Every project should have a decent amount of research devoted to it, and when that is done, from my years of experience watching other student filmmakers do it, or just good directors in general do it, you can tell. Zombie, to me seems like that slacker kid who refuses to use references because he's too lazy to research so he just churns out carbon copies of the only thing he allows his mind to know. Zombie isn't the only director I feel to be this way, but I just find it offending that there are so many more worthy directors that could have taken this project and made it much better.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Funny story I want to tell about seeing Halloween Resurrection. When it came out, my girlfriend and I went to see it opening night. Busta Rhymes and Tyra Banks were billed as the stars of this movie. So of course, not to sound ...you know...we got to the theater and the place was packed...with..."fans", they were black (but it's cool, we felt cool). So, we had to sit in the front row of the neck breaker seats. There was a black guy next to me, and we talked and at one point, a 40 oz dropped from his coat pocket to the ground. lol. He was drunk by the way.

So we watch the movie, and we're laughing at how horrible it is. I'm a big Halloween fan, and at the time, I thought it was cool but I had enough sense to know that it's terrible and funny. My girlfriend at the time, she was a bit 'standoffish' of black people. She felt uncomfortable. So we're watching the end...and Busta was supposidly 'dead' and the fire scene was happening and Busta burst threw the flaming door and I yell out as loud as I can...

"YEAH MICHAEL. YOU CAN'T KILL HIP HOP...FOOL!!!"

and I swear to you.....the entire theater screamed out in laughter. It was the most hilarious thing I've done in a theater. My g/f...she flipped the **** out. She thought we were about to be killed for taht, but everyone was having so much fun it was cool.

I just thought taht was funny.

[The Apatow Crew]

He could have...which reminds me...did Michael make a friend with him?? lol. Michael's just so chile and like "yo, here man, happy birthday...here's a knife I killed my sister with".He was more or less like here you can have this knife, i'm getting the hell out of here before the cops come and shoot my a** up yet again.

[ABleedingCorpse]

From Wikipedia (yeah...lame...but whatever, take it for what it's worth)

*At the HALLOWEEN 30th Anniversary convention the filmakers said that Anchor Bay Entertainment is in talks with Buena Vista Home Entertainment to release the Unrated Producer's Cut For The 6th Film, and also Unrated and Extended versions of Halloween H20 and Halloween: Resurrection.*

Could care less about H.R. but a H20 extended cut....I'm for that.

[The Apatow Crew]

about the beard, here you go.

About That Michael Myers Beard...

Source:ShockTillYouDrop.com


You know theme, now hear it over and over again on the recently re-launched teaser site (http://www.halloween2-movie.com/) for Rob Zombie's H2 (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/films.php?id=8895). Not much to see there, but plenty to listen to.

Now, about that thick beard seen on Tyler Mane in the set pics (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=9770) we posted early this morning. Our man who took the photos, Adam, says he saw Mane wearing the Myers mask.

"You can't see the beard AT ALL under the mask," Adam writes in. "So the beard is...well, completely irrelevant to the movie, character, or actor. He's a huge - like holy crap don't eat my children kinda huge - and hairy and scary as hell. Kinda perfect fit if you ask me."

Mane has been growing the beard over the last year, we're told.
http://www.shocktilyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=9779

[The Apatow Crew]

From Wikipedia (yeah...lame...but whatever, take it for what it's worth)

*At the HALLOWEEN 30th Anniversary convention the filmakers said that Anchor Bay Entertainment is in talks with Buena Vista Home Entertainment to release the Unrated Producer's Cut For The 6th Film, and also Unrated and Extended versions of Halloween H20 and Halloween: Resurrection.*

Could care less about H.R. but a H20 extended cut....I'm for that.I'd get them. I like them.:o

[ABleedingCorpse]

SEE PEOPLE. BEARDS F****IN RULE!!! *ableedingcorpse is an avide supporter of beards and Tyler Mane. If you're male and have no beard....ableedingcorpse pities the fool*

[ABleedingCorpse]

I'd get them. I like them.:o

It's be really nice to have that Producers Cut of 6. The quality of the bootleg just isn't worth watching without a reason to get drunk. :csad: But a polished PC version of it, I'd watch it. It's actually pretty good if you ignore some of it. The whole scene with the mother and Michael in the house just lurking creeps me out every time.

[Spider-ManHero12]

SEE PEOPLE. BEARDS F****IN RULE!!! *ableedingcorpse is an avide supporter of beards and Tyler Mane. If you're male and have no beard....ableedingcorpse pities the fool* Lol, I'm a supporter of beards and Tyler mane! Hell yes! :woot::up:

[ABleedingCorpse]

lol, i'm a supporter of beards and tyler mane! Hell yes! :woot::up:

high five!!! Lol.

[JustABill]

I just want to see a picture of the new mask already!

[ABleedingCorpse]

There's a sculpture of it the new mask, but no offcial picture of it finished. You can see a bullet hole in the hot of the head on the sclupt.

[Heretic]

...ableedingcorpse pities the fool*

quit yo jibba jabba

[JustABill]

There's a sculpture of it the new mask, but no offcial picture of it finished. You can see a bullet hole in the hot of the head on the sclupt.
I know, but I mean I want the actual completed thing on Mane's face.

[ABleedingCorpse]

quit yo jibba jabba

NeVaH!

[ABleedingCorpse]

I know, but I mean I want the actual completed thing on Mane's face.

Have you seen the 'composit' photoshop/sculpture pic? It's sick!

[Heretic]

NeVaH!

Dont give me no back talk sucka!

[JustABill]

Have you seen the 'composit' photoshop/sculpture pic? It's sick!
Yeah. I still prefer the whole image of Michael to determine if I like the mask or not.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Dont give me no back talk sucka!

I back talk when I wanna. *neck swerve* Yeah, I do what I want. Yeah, can't stop me. Nevah.

[Heretic]

I back talk when I wanna. *neck swerve* Yeah, I do what I want. Yeah, can't stop me. Nevah.

Dont make me mad grrr!

[The Original Bamfer]

I hated the long, straight hair look in the first, but I dig the bearded look. It's really creepy. :up:

[Cagefighterkip]

if this comes out at the end of august when is the trailer gonna be out?
itll prolly be released w/a horror flick id guess

[The Apatow Crew]

if this comes out at the end of august when is the trailer gonna be out?
itll prolly be released w/a horror flick id guessI don't know i'm guessing May, maybe. End of April perhaps. But end of may i'm guessing.

[Peyton Westlake]

I aplolgize if this was answered but, wasnt going to look thru 800 posts...........but wasnt Michael shot blank in the face?

[Nightmare]

In the head, its not really known where she shot him, just that she shot him and lots of blood squirted out.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Michael Myers....dude can get shot in the head and get up and still kill you. Know why? He's Michael F***in' Myers!! That's why.

[Nightmare]

lol, he can even get his head chopped off and still come back!

[Peyton Westlake]

Michael Myers....dude can get shot in the head and get up and still kill you. Know why? He's Michael F***in' Myers!! That's why.


LOL....well i was hoping Zombie would not make him the terminator & more realistic.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Okay...Michael Myers...dude can get grazed by a bullet to the skull and still get up and kill you. Know why? He's Michael F***in' Myers. That's why.

[The Apatow Crew]

LOL....well i was hoping Zombie would not make him the terminator & more realistic.All i'm gonna say is that term is so overly used on this site, to describe anything.

[ABleedingCorpse]

My penis is realistic. There. Overrated now?

[The Apatow Crew]

My penis is realistic. There. Overrated now?oooooohhhhhh, not that! Anything but that!!!!!

[Peyton Westlake]

Does anybody thing Zombie's effort was good at least ?

[Majik1387]

Yes :up:

[Johnny Drama]

All i'm gonna say is that term is so overly used on this site, to describe anything.


You are correct sir!

Someone onetime described the movie Catwoman as "realistic"...

[Johnny Drama]

Does anybody thing Zombie's effort was good at least ?


I thought it was great

[ABleedingCorpse]

Zombie posted a pic of Bill Moseley as Uncle Coffins on his myspace. Looks pretty hilarious. It's basicly Bill as Dr. Death. Bill plays a horror movie host on tv, and of course, he's cheesy and goofy looking. But it works, and his appearance distracts you from the fact that Bill was in the first remake, and was killed....lol

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Yeah, I saw that picture. Pretty cool, lol. :up:

[redhawk23]

apearantly all chuck norris facts apply to michale meyers

[ABleedingCorpse]

apearantly all chuck norris facts apply to michale meyers

Yes they do. :word:

[Johnny Drama]

Michael Myers never got the "In space" treatment, that saddens me... :(

[ABleedingCorpse]

Michael Myers never got the "In space" treatment, that saddens me... :(

Don't ever....ever....EVER....bring that THOUGHT into this forum again.

[Johnny Drama]

Don't ever....ever....EVER....bring that THOUGHT into this forum again.


Oh come on, just imagine how brilliantly awful would that be! :woot:

[ABleedingCorpse]

One thing I know that's already improved Zombie's H2 is the actual Halloween element. October 31st, Halloween, costumes, celebrations, trick or treating and maybe *crosses fingers* bobbing for apples!

That was lacking soo much from the remake (excluding the begining). But it appears Zombie wants you to know it's Halloween in this one and there's bound to be some good stuff happening involving that atmospher.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Oh come on, just imagine how brilliantly awful would that be! :woot:

No. I will never entertain such a horrible and possibly suicidal thought as 'Michael in Space'.

[The Joker]

Does anybody thing Zombie's effort was good at least ?

Yes. But I'm rather luke warm about the result.

I don't need Michael Myers to be explained in such in depth detail. It takes away from the whole mysterious element that makes him so scary. I know he was trying to add depth to Michael, but I really think he's one of those characters who works better without an in depth explanation.

I really disliked the trio of girls. I thought their acting was awful, and their dialogue was woeful. Compton upped her game though when Michael began to terrorize her. I hope she's alot better in the sequal, because Laurie Strode is one of my fav Halloween characters.

Malcolm McDowell was sheer class as Loomis from start to finish.

[CaptainStacy]

Yes. But I'm rather luke warm about the result.

I don't need Michael Myers to be explained in such in depth detail. It takes away from the whole mysterious element that makes him so scary. I know he was trying to add depth to Michael, but I really think he's one of those characters who works better without an in depth explanation.

I really disliked the trio of girls. I thought their acting was awful, and their dialogue was woeful. Compton upped her game though when Michael began to terrorize her. I hope she's alot better in the sequal, because Laurie Strode is one of my fav Halloween characters.

Malcolm McDowell was sheer class as Loomis from start to finish.

These are all pretty much my thoughts to a tee. I really hated seeing a somewhat classic horror character reduced to "poor white trash"...

That said, Rob's version still has it's merits.

I'm on board for the sequel. He was just filming it here in my area last week, but i found out too late and missed it...

[Nivek]

Does anybody thing Zombie's effort was good at least ?

I thought it kicked ass and made Michael Myers a viable threat again. I hate people bringing up the white trash crap.

[CaptainStacy]

I thought it kicked ass and made Michael Myers a viable threat again. I hate people bringing up the white trash crap.

i think it's a valid criticism...i mean; i have YET to see a single reason why Rob needed to explore that route in the film.... It fuels the misconception that only poor people are prone to rage and violence...And the family's dialogue, ESPECIALLY in the opening scene, was just cliched nonsense imo....

Other than that, there were some good moments. Im hopeful Rob will continue to grow as a film maker with the next installment.

[Spider-ManHero12]

The Meyer's film being poor at the beginning of the film was...different, but it worked for Zombie's interpretation. Michael became psychotic in the film for reasons we don't know (I don't think). Being poor really didn't boost that, if you ask me.

[Nightmare]

I can see it now, Laurie becomes an astronaut in 20 years, she's on the moon. Somehow Myers comes out of a coma somehow sneaks on the shuttle, and we got "Halloween in Space"

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ I'm going to have nightmares thinking about that tonight. :csad:

[Nivek]

i think it's a valid criticism...i mean; i have YET to see a single reason why Rob needed to explore that route in the film.... It fuels the misconception that only poor people are prone to rage and violence...And the family's dialogue, ESPECIALLY in the opening scene, was just cliched nonsense imo....



I can assure you through life experience that type of dialogue is not that big of a cliche, it's pretty telling for the time (early 80's). Not everyone here grew up in picket fence suburbia.

[Peyton Westlake]

I thought it kicked ass and made Michael Myers a viable threat again. I hate people bringing up the white trash crap.


I didnt mind the 'white trash' but it seemed all his movies are somehow laced with that.

[The Original Bamfer]

I liked Zombie's enough. It's biggest problem, for me, lies in the fact that the decent part of the film (present day Haddonfield) was shafted to make room for a painstakingly long and unnecessary origin story which nearly humanized the soulless monster that is The Shape. :down

[Peyton Westlake]

I liked Zombie's enough. It's biggest problem, for me, lies in the fact that the decent part of the film (present day Haddonfield) was shafted to make room for a painstakingly long and unnecessary origin story which nearly humanized the soulless monster that is The Shape. :down

My problem was nothing to do with 'white trash' origin......but how he seemed to want you to feel sorry for Michael for becoming what he was.

[ABleedingCorpse]

It worked...to a degree, you may want to feel sorry for Michael and it's deserved to feel sorry for him...at the same time fearing what he is all together. It's like feeling sorry for a miss treated rabid dog. You want to help, but then again...run like hell from it because it's going to give you rabies if it bites you.

And it's still completely mysterious as to what Michael's intentions are with Laurie. In the first one, we didn't know she was his sister (until the sequal), so the whole notion of the same meaning the remake had with the original is invalid. That's what changes things up a little bit. In Zombie's film, we have these two characters who are bound from the start and it's never assumed he's trying to kill her or just have some in his life not judge him. Baby Laurie never judged him, and neither did his mother (she didn't show it to Michael anyways..but she off'd herself).

I don't get the anger towards the 'white trash' hate. I honestly don't think the 'poor trash' element had anything to do with Michael's outcome. It was strickly about the way he was treated, not because he didn't get that bike he wanted, or the Atari or get to go to DisneyLand because he was poor. It was about 'Why the hell is this guy being a dick? Why is his big sis a *****? Why do the kids pick on him?'. And seeing as how many of us don't want to admit it, deep down, mostly everyone here can relate a little to Michael.

You feel sorry for him, and then again you're scared to death also. Either way, Michael just the untamed person who doesn't exist anymore....nobody really knows him...just that...he's crazy and out for blood.

[Marx]

Don't ever....ever....EVER....bring that THOUGHT into this forum again.

:lmao:

[ABleedingCorpse]

I can see it now, Laurie becomes an astronaut in 20 years, she's on the moon. Somehow Myers comes out of a coma somehow sneaks on the shuttle, and we got "Halloween in Space"

Laurie has psychological problems....NASA would never deal with her now. End of story. Never going to happen. :cmad:

[Spider-ManHero12]

Either way, Michael just the untamed person who doesn't exist anymore....nobody really knows him...just that...he's crazy and out for blood. Yup, exactly.

[CaptainStacy]

I can assure you through life experience that type of dialogue is not that big of a cliche, it's pretty telling for the time (early 80's). Not everyone here grew up in picket fence suburbia.

And not everyone that grows up poor becomes a serial killer. i can assure you THAT through life expierience. :yay:

[CaptainStacy]

I didnt mind the 'white trash' but it seemed all his movies are somehow laced with that.

Agreed.

[Jackasscoley15]

I'm starting to like the 'Michael in Space' idea more than the concept of a second Zomboween. God help us all.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Laurie has psychological problems....NASA would never deal with her now. End of story. Never going to happen. :cmad: I agree! :up::up::up:

[ABleedingCorpse]

I'm starting to like the 'Michael in Space' idea more than the concept of a second Zomboween. God help us all.


:cmad:

[<(o_o)>]

Michael Myers never got the "In space" treatment, that saddens me... :(

In Halloween 6 they did joke about him being is space however when people were calling into the radio show.

[Nightmare]

Laurie has psychological problems....NASA would never deal with her now. End of story. Never going to happen. :cmad:

:o Was joking.

I'm starting to like the 'Michael in Space' idea more than the concept of a second Zomboween. God help us all.

:hehe:

[Cagefighterkip]

hey a treatment has apparently leaked out online,
BECAUSE IT IS imdb.com it is PROBABLY FAKE but nontheless i thought i'd post it here. i know im in the minority but overall this sounds good even though the writer of the post hates it (it sounds like they went even further with the exploitation/grindhouse/hillbilly angle which i rly dig, more grindhouse-esque movies are fine by me).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1311067/board/nest/132031286?d=132031286&p=1#132031286

[Majik1387]

hey a treatment has apparently leaked out online,
BECAUSE IT IS imdb.com it is PROBABLY FAKE but nontheless i thought i'd post it here. i know im in the minority but overall this sounds good even though the writer of the post hates it (it sounds like they went even further with the exploitation/grindhouse/hillbilly angle which i rly dig, more grindhouse-esque movies are fine by me).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1311067/board/nest/132031286?d=132031286&p=1#132031286
I actually like it a lot as well. I love the Samhein tidbit. Taking this with a grain of salt as well though.

[ABleedingCorpse]

#2

"Cut to Michael. He is walking down a street littered with shops that have since closed for the day. A car full of teenage bombers whizzes by and eggs him. Michael stops and flings the yolk off his chest and mask."

#3

"A gang of vigilante lesbian biker chicks are standing outside a bar. Their leader speaks softly and carries a BIG knife! They spot Michael walking down an alleyway across the street. Thinking he's a man dressed as Michael Myers, their stomachs turn. What kind of lowlife dresses up as a mass-murderer on Halloween? They follow him into the alley and jump him. The leader stabs him with her knife. Michael pulls it out and uses it to kill her and the entire gang."

#9

"At the Myers house, there is still a small crowd of spectators outside. The clinic van pulls up and Michael gets out. He opens the passenger door and pulls out Laurie, who is putting up a fight and screaming. The small crowd turns its attention to them. They believe it's some kind of staged show. They watch and applaud.

CAMERA SLOW MOTION on crowd -- their faces change from surprise to horror -– as Laurie daydreams that she grabs Michael's knife and runs it straight into his heart! A flash of white. CAMERA back to normal: Laurie's daydream ends when a spectator gets close and snaps a picture of her in Michael's arms. The flash of light from the camera awakens her.

The crowd cheers -- some people are even taking video footage -- as Michael carries Laurie inside the house.

In the Myers house, he ties up Laurie and begins pouring gasoline around the room. Laurie pleads for him to leave her alone. She says that she knows that he is her brother and that he cares about her. She pleads for her life, tells him she loves him too. For a moment Michael listens, but then he lights a match and drops it, causing the room to go up in flames. A circle of fire forms around them. Laurie screams. Michael takes off his mask and puts it on her. Laurie stops screaming as crazy thoughts race through her mind. Michael unties Laurie's arms and gives her his knife. He holds out his arm for her to cut. Laurie cuts his forearm, and then Michael takes the knife from her. He takes the blood from his wound and writes the word "Boo" across her palm, like a tattoo."


I like the visual image of #2. But I would have to call great BS on this. If you read everything, it's really as if someone just 'twisted' around Halloween 2 as a remake, and for sure that's not going to happen with H2. I hope not at least...and besides....I thought they couldn't copy Halloween 2 very much? This looks like a really copy/paste/re-write job. For now, I call BS.

[CaptainStacy]

hey a treatment has apparently leaked out online,
BECAUSE IT IS imdb.com it is PROBABLY FAKE but nontheless i thought i'd post it here. i know im in the minority but overall this sounds good even though the writer of the post hates it (it sounds like they went even further with the exploitation/grindhouse/hillbilly angle which i rly dig, more grindhouse-esque movies are fine by me).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1311067/board/nest/132031286?d=132031286&p=1#132031286

That actually sounds kind of cool.

[ABleedingCorpse]

It all sounds cool...but the way Michael is portrayed in his actions sound almost out of character. Like the 'house fire' scene listed, it's all too out of place. It really feels like a fake reading that stuff. Someone got bored, rewatched Halloween 2 and said "mmm, I could change this and this, and post it as an exerpt from the film".

But if it's real, it's alright, along the road of shooting Zombie will change several things and the shooting script is usually a guideline of things to think/look/debate about while filming.

[Nightmare]

He should of cut the thorn symbol in her arm over "boo"

[The Apatow Crew]

Zombie Teases First Look at New Michael Myers Mask

While browsing around Rob Zombie's official MySpace page I came across a few images that haven't been posted yet, one of which featured what appears to be the brand new Michael Myers mask in the flesh. I haven't been able to confirm if it's new or not, so feel free to chime in below with your thoughts. I'm being told it is in fact a new image. In addition, you'll also get your first look at Chris Hardwick as David Newman, Ezra Buzzington as Ned Atkins and Mark Critopher Lawrene in action. Dimension Films' H2 (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/film/1612), Zombie's Halloween sequel, arrives in cinemas August 28th.


http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15521

Is the pic above real or not?

[Nightmare]

Looks like a pic from the first one.

[ABleedingCorpse]

It's just a pic from the first one. It's always been there for the past month or so. The other pictures are from other films also. Nothing on the HALLOWEEN myspace page is from the movie.

The Hardwick pic is from 1000/Corpses and not from the movie. So people alreadying complaing that he looks the same as he did in THAT movie are jumping the gun.

[Cagefighterkip]

I like the visual image of #2. But I would have to call great BS on this. If you read everything, it's really as if someone just 'twisted' around Halloween 2 as a remake, and for sure that's not going to happen with H2. I hope not at least...and besides....I thought they couldn't copy Halloween 2 very much? This looks like a really copy/paste/re-write job. For now, I call BS.

i call BS too
but its interesting to read nontheless, and if by some (small) chance its real, then cool. i dig on it.

[The Apatow Crew]

I don't know, i'm just posting what I saw on that site.

[Cagefighterkip]

hope we get a trailer or teaser soon...

[The Apatow Crew]

hope we get a trailer or teaser soon...Sometime April or May perhaps.

[Cagefighterkip]

Sometime April or May perhaps.

hopefully -- any horor films coming out around that time?? if there is itd prolly be w/one of those flicks.

[The Apatow Crew]

hopefully -- any horor films coming out around that time?? if there is itd prolly be w/one of those flicks.Not any big ones i can think of right now at the moment.

[Cagefighterkip]

Hey i have the "h2" treatment. Like i said prior and as some have said it is prolly fake (or early draft) -- but if anyone cares to read something possibly fake i can email it...

[Spider-ManHero12]

hey a treatment has apparently leaked out online,
BECAUSE IT IS imdb.com it is PROBABLY FAKE but nontheless i thought i'd post it here. i know im in the minority but overall this sounds good even though the writer of the post hates it (it sounds like they went even further with the exploitation/grindhouse/hillbilly angle which i rly dig, more grindhouse-esque movies are fine by me).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1311067/board/nest/132031286?d=132031286&p=1#132031286 That sounds really cool, if you ask me. :up:

[Johnny Drama]

:cmad:



You know what H2 needs? The classic Michael/Laurie love story

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/MichaelMyers-22.jpg?t=1236560279

[ABleedingCorpse]

You know what H2 needs? The classic Michael/Laurie love story

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/MichaelMyers-22.jpg?t=1236560279

I've always loved seeing that picture.

And though I get :cmad: at the thought of 'space' involved, Laurie and Michael having a tender moment doesn't so much bother me. Somewhere in this whole thing, you kinda want to see Michael be loved by Laurie as his sister and maybe try to stop him from killing. Maybe that's what Michael needs, just someone to show him he's not alone? Of course, once that scene is over with, Michael just stabs her to death.

[Cagefighterkip]

You know what H2 needs? The classic Michael/Laurie love story

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/MichaelMyers-22.jpg?t=1236560279

yknow...
rob zombie doing HALLOWEEN 3 as an incestuous love story between Laurie and Michael would be so f ** ked up it just might work! and yes, im serious.

[The Joker]

You know what H2 needs? The classic Michael/Laurie love story

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/MichaelMyers-22.jpg?t=1236560279

Awww incest :heart:

[Majik1387]

I've always loved seeing that picture.

And though I get :cmad: at the thought of 'space' involved, Laurie and Michael having a tender moment doesn't so much bother me. Somewhere in this whole thing, you kinda want to see Michael be loved by Laurie as his sister and maybe try to stop him from killing. Maybe that's what Michael needs, just someone to show him he's not alone? Of course, once that scene is over with, Michael just stabs her to death.
The best scene from Resurrection.:up:

[ABleedingCorpse]

The best scene from Resurrection.:up:

My point excatly.

[Marx]

Zombie Teases First Look at New Michael Myers Mask


http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15521

Is the pic above real or not?

I'd say the pic is old...

[Nightmare]

Sorry about the Election Marx.

[Marx]

Sorry about the Election Marx.

It's cool. Clearly, SuBe and I weren't 'busty' enough to win. We lack a few parts. :cwink:

[Nightmare]

It's cool. Clearly, SuBe and I weren't 'busty' enough to win. We lack a few parts. :cwink:

lol, judging by the way they won. Im guessing they're like porn star busty?

[Marx]

lol, judging by the way they won. Im guessing they're like porn star busty?

I don't know about that, but that is largely how they won. :funny:

[ABleedingCorpse]

Word spreading from Georga and the set of Zombie's H2 is that they have filmed two different scenes in which Michael Myers get's his hands on a NEW mask.

The 'old' mask from the remake is being done away with. Reported earlier when H2 was announced was the reveal of the 'head shot' sculpt for Michael's mask. This mask will be used, but for the opening scenes of H2 only. Michael will return to Haddonfeild to stalk his sister once again, but will dawn a new mask he will steal. Zombie has filmed two different scenes to decide which he likes better of which Michael get's his mask. One, from the hardware store (ahla, Original Halloween) OR stealing it from decorations in city hall.


I have yet to be told what the new mask will look like.

[Johnny Drama]

It's cool. Clearly, SuBe and I weren't 'busty' enough to win. We lack a few parts. :cwink:


I voted for you, for what it's worth...

[Johnny Drama]

Word spreading from Georga and the set of Zombie's H2 is that they have filmed two different scenes in which Michael Myers get's his hands on a NEW mask.

The 'old' mask from the remake is being done away with. Reported earlier when H2 was announced was the reveal of the 'head shot' sculpt for Michael's mask. This mask will be used, but for the opening scenes of H2 only. Michael will return to Haddonfeild to stalk his sister once again, but will dawn a new mask he will steal. Zombie has filmed two different scenes to decide which he likes better of which Michael get's his mask. One, from the hardware store (ahla, Original Halloween) OR stealing it from decorations in city hall.


I have yet to be told what the new mask will look like.


I am hoping it's the classic white mask. The mask from the remake was good too. But if he is wearing a pig mask or something I have given up...

[ABleedingCorpse]

I think it'll be another verison of the 'white' mask, but not the same version as before. I'm sure the town of Haddonfield has used the image of 'Michael' for their own scary reasons for Halloween, assuming he's dead and of no harm to the town. Like urban legend. Putting Michael in a completely different type mask (like a pig mask, or skull mask, or a cheesy Wal-Mart mask) would be a slap in the face *even though people feel Zombie as a director is a slap in the face*.

I just assume it's a new white mask and hope that it looks as good as the previous mask did, just 'cleaner' looking.

[Johnny Drama]

I think it'll be another verison of the 'white' mask, but not the same version as before. I'm sure the town of Haddonfield has used the image of 'Michael' for their own scary reasons for Halloween, assuming he's dead and of no harm to the town. Like urban legend. Putting Michael in a completely different type mask (like a pig mask, or skull mask, or a cheesy Wal-Mart mask) would be a slap in the face *even though people feel Zombie as a director is a slap in the face*.

I just assume it's a new white mask and hope that it looks as good as the previous mask did, just 'cleaner' looking.


That too is what I am hoping for. I love RZ, I just wish he would embrace the classic Halloween some more.

[ABleedingCorpse]

The problem though with embracing the 'classic' Halloween mask, is that you can't embrace it. The only mask I think looked good were 1 and 2, Stan Winston did a mask for 7 but JLC and the producers didn't like it but I saw what it looked like and it looked great.

But here's the deal, they can't copy that 'classic' mask. Shatner and Star Trek have used many a lawsuits to prevent the use of that mask again. I don't really know how it works technicly, since it was 'altered' in likeness, but end of story, that mask can't be used or copied (yes, I know they make replicas of the mask, but that's a whole different story).

But I do wish Zombie would keep the mask clean and white (...don't stare at me for saying that). I just don't want the mask to look like a crappy face like it was done in 4,5 and 8.

[Johnny Drama]

I agree, clean and white ftw

[Marx]

Word spreading from Georga and the set of Zombie's H2 is that they have filmed two different scenes in which Michael Myers get's his hands on a NEW mask.

The 'old' mask from the remake is being done away with. Reported earlier when H2 was announced was the reveal of the 'head shot' sculpt for Michael's mask. This mask will be used, but for the opening scenes of H2 only. Michael will return to Haddonfeild to stalk his sister once again, but will dawn a new mask he will steal. Zombie has filmed two different scenes to decide which he likes better of which Michael get's his mask. One, from the hardware store (ahla, Original Halloween) OR stealing it from decorations in city hall.


I have yet to be told what the new mask will look like.

I don't think Zombie would be stupid enough to change the mask completely. It will be some version of the white classic mask.

I voted for you, for what it's worth...

Thank you Johnny. :bow:

[sandmjuggalos]

New update on the mask here: http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15546

I don't know about the really red blood though. Maybe if it were all brown and dried looking....

[ABleedingCorpse]

That update is old news.

[Peyton Westlake]

Now another question, if Halloween II does well......does Zombie keep going? Or do they hand it over to another?

[Peyton Westlake]

Another might be.......does Zombie really want to be back for a 3rd? How much more of his ideas does he have?

[ABleedingCorpse]

All depends really. Zombie really didn't want to do H2, but his next planned project wasn't going to get funded by the studio, so I'm sure he made a deal to do H2 for a little funding for his next movie. I'm sure Zombie will take great pride in H2 because he doesn't like giving out crappy material he doesn't like (yes, that's your opinion that you think he's always released crappy material...but he himself puts pride in it for himself).

So it depends, the studio will definatly want a sequal regardless of Zombie, but Zombie might have grown a deep attachment to Halloween, maybe he will have a 3rd one in him if the idea comes to mind. And who knows where the deal was made with Zombie. That stuff have been a big secret. He might need to do a 3rd one just to get another film made.

[Nightmare]

Hey guys, let's vote for the best mask from all the movies. Let's leave out the original and part 2 since those were clearly the best.

So Im gonna say Part 6 The Curse of Michael Myers or maybe Part 4.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I don't think Zombie will make a third one, tbh.

[Spider-ManHero12]

New update on the mask here: http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15546

I don't know about the really red blood though. Maybe if it were all brown and dried looking.... Whoa, that looks fantastic! :up:

[theShape]

Hey guys, let's vote for the best mask from all the movies. Let's leave out the original and part 2 since those were clearly the best.

So Im gonna say Part 6 The Curse of Michael Myers or maybe Part 4.

Part 6, by far. The remake mask had potential to be the best, but loses points since its was trashed up because Xombie thinks dirty things look scarier.

But anyway, I like the idea of Michael getting a new mask, but it better be a clean, white, Shatner mask.

[Cagefighterkip]

theres no way he'll do a new mask altogether (considering the teaser poster in theaters already has the classic white mask on it)... itll be a new take on the original white mask. little changes, but nothing major.

[Cagefighterkip]

The remake mask had potential to be the best, but loses points since its was trashed up because Xombie thinks dirty things look scarier.

i think the remake had the best mask
dirtier is scarier in this department imo
dirty, smudged, not so white and less easy to see, its kinda more terrifying imo...

[theShape]

i think the remake had the best mask
dirtier is scarier in this department imo
dirty, smudged, not so white and less easy to see, its kinda more terrifying imo...

I disagree. It just looks gross, and to be honest, it makes Michael looks more like Leatherface than Michael Myers.

Michael has always been rather clean cut. The best parts of the original are seeing him pop up in that bright white mask, where you can't even see his eyes. Just blackness. A great example from the original is when Laurie is standing in the upstairs hallway, thinking its over, and Michael's white mask materializes from the darkness behind Laurie.

Another great look for Michael was in Part 6, as I said. That mask is actually very similar to the originals, but with longer hair and Michael is a little bigger. He starts off with the clean jumpsuit and mask, but as the movie goes along and he gets beat up, it's reflected by the blood on his jumpsuit. It also looks really cool that Michael has scars all along the back of his hands from the explosion in Part 2. IMO, Michael was the most frightening in Part 6.

That's how I would have done it in the remake.

[NotFadeAway]

I disagree. It just looks gross, and to be honest, it makes Michael looks more like Leatherface than Michael Myers.

Michael has always been rather clean cut. The best parts of the original are seeing him pop up in that bright white mask, where you can't even see his eyes. Just blackness. A great example from the original is when Laurie is standing in the upstairs hallway, thinking its over, and Michael's white mask materializes from the darkness behind Laurie.

Another great look for Michael was in Part 6, as I said. That mask is actually very similar to the originals, but with longer hair and Michael is a little bigger. He starts off with the clean jumpsuit and mask, but as the movie goes along and he gets beat up, it's reflected by the blood on his jumpsuit. It also looks really cool that Michael has scars all along the back of his hands from the explosion in Part 2. IMO, Michael was the most frightening in Part 6.

That's how I would have done it in the remake.

Thats the character that Rob Zombie acted as if he was remaking, not Michael Myers. Sad thing is, Zombie would have been perfect for TCM, or even Friday the 13th, just not Halloween. With that being said, the movie wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be, and therefor I will see the 2nd in theaters.

[Jackasscoley15]

Thats the character that Rob Zombie acted as if he was remaking, not Michael Myers. Sad thing is, Zombie would have been perfect for TCM, or even Friday the 13th, just not Halloween. With that being said, the movie wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be, and therefor I will see the 2nd in theaters.

Didn't even think of that. :up: Too bad he didn't direct the Chainsaw remake, would've been 50x better than what we got. His style would have fit perfectly.

[Marx]

Didn't even think of that. :up: Too bad he didn't direct the Chainsaw remake, would've been 50x better than what we got. His style would have fit perfectly.

The Chainsaw remake was a very good remake.

[Jackasscoley15]

:lmao:

[Marx]

:lmao:

Thank you for responding intelligently. :whatever:

[The Joker]

I've no real complaints about the mask. I actually quite like it.

[Nivek]

God, I hate reading the nit picky biatching about everything Zoombie does.

I for one loved the design of the new mask, It makes sence Michael isn't walking around in a clean white mask. Heres a little detail most of you halloween fans overlook, outside of the lame H20 and it's lame "Michael gets his ass handed to him by busta" sequel, has Michael ever had a clean mask? Please put up pictures showing that clean white mask.

[Majik1387]

Halloween and the sequel were the only ones where his mask was clean.

[ABleedingCorpse]

It's actually was NEVER clean clean. In Halloween it was a bit dirty looking, but not as grunged up as the remake. Halloween 2....FREAKING DIRTY AS A HOOKER AT THE END OF THE WEEK!! It was dirty looking, and it showed, it was worn down looking and had spent the best part of 2 years being kicked around in Debra Hill's house.

The only time I remember it being clean looking was 4 and 7. The rest of the time, it was a bit smudged looking.

Zombie's Halloween, the mask was dirty and torn, BUT it had a backstory as to why it looked like that. The mask was perfectly fine and clean when first shown, but Michael stored it way where it spent the next 18 years colleting dust and being nawled at by mice and such.

[The Joker]

Halloween and the sequel were the only ones where his mask was clean.

Halloween 4 as well. He stole a new one from a store.

[Johnny Drama]

Halloween and the sequel were the only ones where his mask was clean.


Halloween 4 and 6, it looked kinda silver-ish in h20

[theShape]

God, I hate reading the nit picky biatching about everything Zoombie does.

I for one loved the design of the new mask, It makes sence Michael isn't walking around in a clean white mask. Heres a little detail most of you halloween fans overlook, outside of the lame H20 and it's lame "Michael gets his ass handed to him by busta" sequel, has Michael ever had a clean mask? Please put up pictures showing that clean white mask.

Can't believe you're so desperate to defend Zombie that you're reaching this far. (and a sidenote: Do you feel better about the Zombie "biatching" when you contantly "biatch" about the Zombie "biatching"?)

I guess I have to spell everything out. When I say clean and white, look to Halloween, H4, H5, H6, H20, and HR for example. No, the masks are not literally as white as can be (like a piece of paper), but in comparison to the mask in Zombie's remake, they are much whiter, and therefore much cleaner, and that's what I'd like to see in H2.


And yeah, the mask in H2 was dirty as poop.

[ABleedingCorpse]

I really didn't have a problem with the about of "dirty" look it had to it, but I didn't like it looking all torn up as if it was dating Chris Brown though.

[theShape]

I really didn't have a problem with the about of "dirty" look it had to it, but I didn't like it looking all torn up as if it was dating Chris Brown though.

I mean, it didn't kill me to see the mask all dirty and torn. A bigger gripe for me was that Michael's eyes were constantly visible.

I just prefer a cleaner look for Michael, a la Part 6, because to me, Michael has never been about looking all nasty and dirty. That can be left for Leatherface or Jason. But under the mask, Michael is supposedly just a normal dude, with no facial deformity, and his mask always seemed to reflect that.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Yeah, cause in my mind I just picture Michael spending the 364 other days of the year being a metrosexual, getting groomed, keeping his hair perfectly comed, cutting his fingernails, clean shaved and over all, banging every chick he meets (that isn't on Halloween of course).

Please, what's underneath Michael's mask is not important. No, he isn't deformed or ever portrayed to be deformed, he's a normal looking guy who's completely off his rocker. His mask isn't suppose to repressent what is under the mask, it repressents what ISN'T under the mask. There is NO ONE under the mask, it's just a blank empty soul being.

Zombie however went another direction, yes his eye's showed because that was the direction it went in. In Zombie's verison, Michael is actually a person. You're suppose to sense that, to know that there is a person under the mask and that somewhere, that young boy is creeping around inside him. Where in the original, it was portrayed as a total complete empty shell. He wasn't Michael in those films, he was The Shape....but Zombie went back and kept him as Michael.

The mask is there, that is Michael, not underneath the mask.

[Johnny Drama]

The Chainsaw remake was a very good remake.

I agree, compared to the original it wasn't as good but definitley better than most horror movies released in the early 2000's

[theShape]

Please, what's underneath Michael's mask is not important. No, he isn't deformed or ever portrayed to be deformed, he's a normal looking guy who's completely off his rocker. His mask isn't suppose to repressent what is under the mask, it repressents what ISN'T under the mask. There is NO ONE under the mask, it's just a blank empty soul being.

Zombie however went another direction, yes his eye's showed because that was the direction it went in. In Zombie's verison, Michael is actually a person. You're suppose to sense that, to know that there is a person under the mask and that somewhere, that young boy is creeping around inside him. Where in the original, it was portrayed as a total complete empty shell. He wasn't Michael in those films, he was The Shape....but Zombie went back and kept him as Michael.

The mask is there, that is Michael, not underneath the mask.

And this is why Zombie's Halloween really makes very little sense. Zombie keeps telling us, "Michael's human! He's just a kid! But he's evil!" And then, BAM, he's a 7-foot half giant that is undoubtedly superhuman. What was the point of the backstory in the beginning? Are we supposed to believe that Michael has feelings? Is this why he knelt down before Laurie and held out the picture?

I feel like Zombie tried to do something with the brother/sistertale, but failed, because then Michael goes right back into killer mode. The story he set up in the beginning just really went nowhere, because he ultimately went back to what Carpenter had done.

As for the mask, what I should have said was that Michael's mask has always been a reflection of himself: blank, emotionless, and empty, with the blackest eyes. One could argue that Zombie chose to make Michael's mask all ****ed up because of all the ****ed up things that happened to him, and that would make sense, but to be honest, I don't think he even meant for it to be like that. He probably did it cause it looked "cool" and cause "dirty things are scary".

You can get on me all you want for "Zombie-bashing", but it's just a disheartening thing for me, as a life-long Halloween fan, because in the end, Zombie did the same thing they tried to do in Halloween 6: explain Michael Myers, and he failed (just as H6 did), because Michael Myers can't be explained, whether you give him a trailer-trash background or an obsession with masks, he is UNEXPLAINABLE. Or at least he's better off that way.

[Nivek]

Halloween and the sequel were the only ones where his mask was clean.

Halloween 2's mask was dirty as hell. It was pretty much the RZ Halloween mask in color, without the dryrot. In the original Halloween, it was almost a grey-blue in some shots because of the paintjob on top of the original Shatner Masks. The only time I seen it white white was that mindboggingly new mask in H20.

[ABleedingCorpse]

You have some points. But still, I can't explain Michael from Zombie's Halloween. So what, he was a poor white trash kid (I'm really starting to hate that title of White Trash being labled here), just because he was 'that' doesn't mean that's what caused him to be mental.

Zombie's film was flawed on several levels, but overall, I feel those flaws didn't affect the film to a degree of it being terrible or a waste. I liked it for the most part (hell, after this discussion, I prolly need to watch it again).

In Zombie's version (and I mean that, Zombie's VERSION) Michael was human. He had feelings, he had a thought process. He was a kid who grew up (hell, we don't know who Michael's father was, maybe Mr. Myers was a pro-wrestler? That would fit into the whole 'white trash' image.) Michael grew to be a 7 foot monster, filled with rage, hate and evil. But what Zombie did was, take that and slightly underline it with a hint of innocence that young Michael (the person underneath) is still there a little. Michael goes around killing left and right...and for what? To get to his sister....why? WE DONT' KNOW...it wasn't explained to us why! It's still a complete mystery to us. Why is Michael after his sister? From what I can tell, it sure isn't to kill her...but I'm sure it isn't to have a cup of tea either.

Zombie's Michael still has a cloud of mystery to him. We don't exactly know what he's up to. What we do know is that he's one mad dude who will kill you if you stand in his way or cause a threat to his 'plan'. Maybe in the end, he just want it to be him and his sister...a happy family with out those white trash miserable beings *****in things up.

Outside of Laurie, Michael is still evil...he may not be completely pure evil (maybe he is, I still don't know) but he's definatly one insane, evil, hate filled being who is hell bent on accomplishing whatever it is he wants to do.

And I'll say this, we've seen the Michael you've described before..it's been done...8 times....wouldn't you want to see something a tad bit different done? I got bored with Halloween after 5 and the sequals after that were just like "Oh, there's Michael...and he killed someone...and there's his relitive...and he's going to try and kill them....oh...they killed him....now he's back...and he kills someone else...there's another relitive of his...yup..he's trying to kill them...."

[TwilightPro101]

And this is why Zombie's Halloween really makes very little sense. Zombie keeps telling us, "Michael's human! He's just a kid! But he's evil!" And then, BAM, he's a 7-foot half giant that is undoubtedly superhuman. What was the point of the backstory in the beginning? Are we supposed to believe that Michael has feelings? Is this why he knelt down before Laurie and held out the picture?

I feel like Zombie tried to do something with the brother/sistertale, but failed, because then Michael goes right back into killer mode. The story he set up in the beginning just really went nowhere, because he ultimately went back to what Carpenter had done.

As for the mask, what I should have said was that Michael's mask has always been a reflection of himself: blank, emotionless, and empty, with the blackest eyes. One could argue that Zombie chose to make Michael's mask all ****ed up because of all the ****ed up things that happened to him, and that would make sense, but to be honest, I don't think he even meant for it to be like that. He probably did it cause it looked "cool" and cause "dirty things are scary".

You can get on me all you want for "Zombie-bashing", but it's just a disheartening thing for me, as a life-long Halloween fan, because in the end, Zombie did the same thing they tried to do in Halloween 6: explain Michael Myers, and he failed (just as H6 did), because Michael Myers can't be explained, whether you give him a trailer-trash background or an obsession with masks, he is UNEXPLAINABLE. Or at least he's better off that way.

Completely agree.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Halloween 2's mask was dirty as hell. It was pretty much the RZ Halloween mask in color, without the dryrot. In the original Halloween, it was almost a grey-blue in some shots because of the paintjob on top of the original Shatner Masks. The only time I seen it white white was that mindboggingly new mask in H20.

I don't see where this classic Michael mask 1 and 2 thing is going with the 'clean and white' arguement. Yeah, in 1 it was clean(er) than most of the sequals were. H20 definatly had the whitest of all the mask. That thing was bright white. And in all the others, it's always had a odd white painjob that gives off shadow (which is cool).

I'm with you, 2's mask was the dirtiest thing on earth. Dick Warwick must have thought he was going to get a deases wearing that thing. But what do you expect? Debra Hill just kept the mask and shoved it around from place to place in a box with some nit-nacks and let it sit around for 2 years. It was bound to get messed up. . . Which makes me wonder about Debra a little bit, wonder what she use to do with that mask when it was with her? haha. We shall never know.

But my issue isn't with the white color of any of the mask, it was the design of the face. 4,5, and 8 looked horrible. Even in 4 and 5 they used a photo of the original mask for the posters because even they had to know that the mask they used sucked (damn you Shatner!!!!). I think 6 had a good face design. And for H20, they had to cgi a new mask because they used a crappy mask.

But Zombie's mask, it's pretty cool. Don't like the beat up torn look, but I deal with it, but it looks good compared to the ones I mentioned above.

[Johnny Drama]

it's funny how remake Michael became a hulk and remake Jason became a runt. It's like they switched places.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Jason was a runt? I didn't get that feeling at all.

Michael did size up though. It's a bit odd, but not really a big deal to me. Michael should be intemidating and look scary as hell. I'd **** my pants if I saw that Michael in my house...he wouldn't have to kill me..I'd have a heart attack.

[Marx]

Jason was a runt? I didn't get that feeling at all.

Michael did size up though. It's a bit odd, but not really a big deal to me. Michael should be intemidating and look scary as hell. I'd **** my pants if I saw that Michael in my house...he wouldn't have to kill me..I'd have a heart attack.

I would say that Jason was slightly above average in height and stature. No where near Zombie-Jason size, but more normal.

Michael's size, on the other hand, is an entirely different story. (I agree ABC, he wouldn't have to do anything. I'd see him and have a heart attack.)

[Nivek]

it's funny how remake Michael became a hulk and remake Jason became a runt. It's like they switched places.


Are you in the NBA? Derek Mears is 6' 5". The thing was Jared Padalecki is 6'4", so next to that Jason looks kinda even.

[Johnny Drama]

Jason was a runt? I didn't get that feeling at all.

Michael did size up though. It's a bit odd, but not really a big deal to me. Michael should be intemidating and look scary as hell. I'd **** my pants if I saw that Michael in my house...he wouldn't have to kill me..I'd have a heart attack.


RZ's Myers is scary in the "Big psycho in your house breaking everything in his way to get to you" kind of way, where as Carpenters is the "lone white face silently emerging from the darkness" kinda scary....

[Nivek]

I don't see where this classic Michael mask 1 and 2 thing is going with the 'clean and white' arguement. Yeah, in 1 it was clean(er) than most of the sequals were. H20 definatly had the whitest of all the mask. That thing was bright white. And in all the others, it's always had a odd white painjob that gives off shadow (which is cool).

I'm with you, 2's mask was the dirtiest thing on earth. Dick Warwick must have thought he was going to get a deases wearing that thing. But what do you expect? Debra Hill just kept the mask and shoved it around from place to place in a box with some nit-nacks and let it sit around for 2 years. It was bound to get messed up. . . Which makes me wonder about Debra a little bit, wonder what she use to do with that mask when it was with her? haha. We shall never know.

But my issue isn't with the white color of any of the mask, it was the design of the face. 4,5, and 8 looked horrible. Even in 4 and 5 they used a photo of the original mask for the posters because even they had to know that the mask they used sucked (damn you Shatner!!!!). I think 6 had a good face design. And for H20, they had to cgi a new mask because they used a crappy mask.

But Zombie's mask, it's pretty cool. Don't like the beat up torn look, but I deal with it, but it looks good compared to the ones I mentioned above.


I had a Don Post Michael Myers Mask that lasted about 10 years, I painted it up a bit, but it got dryrot after storing it for 3 months in a hot storage shed, but as it fell apart it looked really cool. I wish i still had pic's of it. The Zombie mask looks pretty close to natural dryrot on latex. I hate clean villian costumes, I like them looking a bit grungy.

[Peyton Westlake]

As insane as this sentence will sound when you read it....Tyler Mane was the best choice for Michael. There was no dialogue to recite and he can act perfect in the physical realm. He's freakishly tall and gives you a chill if you imagine being in the same room as him.

[Nivek]

As insane as this sentence will sound when you read it....Tyler Mane was the best choice for Michael. There was no dialogue to recite and he can act perfect in the physical realm. He's freakishly tall and gives you a chill if you imagine being in the same room as him.

The guy is a monster, someone who looks strong and agressive. I cannot see anyone else who has played Michael beat down Ken Foree like Tyler did in that bathroom scene.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Tyler was great. He used his body to do the acting. It worked....like I said, I'd have a heart attack if he was in my house.

[Johnny Drama]

Tyler Mane would have made a better Jason Vorhees.

[Spider-ManHero12]

The guy is a monster, someone who looks strong and agressive. I cannot see anyone else who has played Michael beat down Ken Foree like Tyler did in that bathroom scene. Agreed completely! :up:

[ABleedingCorpse]

No. I disagree on that. Dereke Mears played Jason perfectly and Tyler played Michael just right....if it were the other way around....it wouldn't work.

[Johnny Drama]

No. I disagree on that. Dereke Mears played Jason perfectly and Tyler played Michael just right....if it were the other way around....it wouldn't work.

I liked Tyler Manes Michael, but it wasn't "Ultimate Michael Myers"

Tyler Manes Michael Myers is a carbon copy of Jason in Friday The 13th Part 2-3, and I am not saying Mears would have made a good Myers, never said that.
I was just saying Tylers size, and intense agression, would have been a better suited fit for Jason Vorhees, who is a hulking hate machine.

And I know..."This is Zombies Halloween..."
But it wasn't our Halloween.
As crappy as the original Halloween sequels were, they honored the iconic image of Michael Myers the die hard Halloween fans have come to love. The mask was always different, but Michael was always the same slender, average sized prowler who stealthly stalked his victems in silence.

Like I've said many times, I still like RZ's Halloween and I am not trying to take anything away from it, but I definitley like Halloween, Halloween 2 and Halloween 4 better, mostly for how how Myers is portrayed.

[ABleedingCorpse]

This discussion over Zombie's Halloween and weither it's up to par with the original is going no where....now if you excuse me, Mr. Zombie called and wanted his balls dusted off for him and his ass kissed, so I need to get back to work.

ROB ZOMBIE'S HALLOWEEN IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ I second that.

Also, since this is a Halloween thread, do you guys think that in the middle of the night tonight, I should watch Halloween (1978) with all the lights out?

[ABleedingCorpse]

^^^Yes, you should do that. Definatly, do it. Actually, I demand that you do that.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Good! I'll defenitely do it. I already know I'm in for one good scare, lol.

[ABleedingCorpse]

^^Know what, that actually sounds like a good idea. Haven't sat down and watched it since Halloween.

[Majik1387]

^^ I second that.

Also, since this is a Halloween thread, do you guys think that in the middle of the night tonight, I should watch Halloween (1978) with all the lights out?
Go for it, I'm gonna do the same with Halloween II

[ABleedingCorpse]

^^I was just about to re-post that I decided to watch Halloween 2 to get into this whole H2 thing.

Minds in this forum, they be thinking alike sometimes.

[Johnny Drama]

Go for it, I'm gonna do the same with Halloween II



I know it's strange, while I do recognize Halloween to be superior, Halloween II is my favorite Halloween film ever...

[ABleedingCorpse]

Halloween II does it for me also. Scared the living day lights out of me as a kid. Michael Myers + Hospitals = Day Lights scared out of me.

I could go into this whole story with taht movie and how it's messed me up in the mind and lead me to a life of submission and dominatrix, but that's for a different time.

[Nightmare]

I Still think Halloween III: Season of the Witch is by far the scariest. :cwink:

[ABleedingCorpse]

I Still think Halloween III: Season of the Witch is by far the scariest. :cwink:

Ooh, it scared me at how aweful it was. Though, maggot head kid was creepy.

[Spider-ManHero12]

IMO, Halloween III was a really good horror film, but not a good Halloween film. It should have been seperate.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Go for it, I'm gonna do the same with Halloween II Cool!

[The Joker]

I Still think Halloween III: Season of the Witch is by far the scariest. :cwink:

I love that movie. It's a guilty pleasure of mine.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I watched Halloween (1978) in the middle of the night last night with all the lights out. Still so creepy! :up:

[steintym]

I know it's strange, while I do recognize Halloween to be superior, Halloween II is my favorite Halloween film ever...

I have to agree with you. The original is the best, but I've always leaned towards Part 2 as my favorite.

[Nivek]

Part 2 is my favorite because it always seemed cooler that the whole town is on red alert and Michael just walks through the chaos killing indiscriminate people who crossed his path. Part 4 came close to catching that air of menace when he wiped out the police station and stirring up the Red's, but fell into the formula trap with stalking teens/family.

[Majik1387]

So I didn't get to watch the second one like I planned. My X-Box 360 finally died. A month after my warranty is up.:(

[The Apatow Crew]

IMO, Halloween III was a really good horror film, but not a good Halloween film. It should have been seperate.Hell, even the director said that. He said it should have just been called Season Of The Witch, having nothing to do with halloween.

[Nathan]

Am I the only one who laughed throughout the 2nd movie? It all just seemed way too silly.

[The Apatow Crew]

Am I the only one who laughed throughout the 2nd movie? It all just seemed way too silly.The reason it might have seemed that way is, cause they were just trying to do what the rest of the 80's slasher films were doing. With the over the top gore and death scenes.

[steintym]

So I didn't get to watch the second one like I planned. My X-Box 360 finally died. A month after my warranty is up.:(

Isn't that how it always happens? I have some warranty horror stories.

[The Joker]

Halloween 2 is my second favourite Halloween movie after the original, of course. I love how it continues on from where the first one left off. And by shooting in all the locations of the original like the Doyle house, the Wallace's house, the Myers house, Loomis, Laurie, and Brackett all looking the same as they did in the original etc, it felt like a continuation of what just happened in original.

Michael stalking those hospital corridors was creepy as hell. Especially those shots of him on the security monitors. The death scenes were great. Loomis was on top form, growing even more obsessed with finding Michael after shooting him six times and seeing him survive.

The only criticism I'd have is that Laurie was very inactive for most of the movie until Michael made his presence felt. She was confined to a hospital bed. Darn shame.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Hell, even the director said that. He said it should have just been called Season Of The Witch, having nothing to do with halloween. Indeed. Didn't he say that on Halloween: 25 years of terror?

[The Apatow Crew]

Indeed. Didn't he say that on Halloween: 25 years of terror?Yeah, that's actually where i got it from.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Halloween 2 is my second favourite Halloween movie after the original, of course. I love how it continues on from where the first one left off. And by shooting in all the locations of the original like the Doyle house, the Wallace's house, the Myers house, Loomis, Laurie, and Brackett all looking the same as they did in the original etc, it felt like a continuation of what just happened in original.

Michael stalking those hospital corridors was creepy as hell. Especially those shots of him on the security monitors. The death scenes were great. Loomis was on top form, growing even more obsessed with finding Michael after shooting him six times and seeing him survive.

The only criticism I'd have is that Laurie was very inactive for most of the movie until Michael made his presence felt. She was confined to a hospital bed. Darn shame.


I watched Halloween 2 last night and I agree with everything you said.

Halloween 2 is prolly my favorite of the original series, simply because I hate hospitals and Michael scared me to death as a kid (even does now...found my self having to walk in the dark last night and wondering if Michael's just hiding in that dark space).

Laurie was inactive for the most part, but she really had a reason to be like that. The whole plot was about Michael trying to find her, and her being absent and us in suspense about actually finding her.

So here my new issue about the remake/H2 discussion. . . .

For those complaining about Michael being shot in the head in the remake and living......Michael was shot TWICE in the head in Halloween 2, still managed not to fall down dead and fought to swing a blade around blind!!! So yeS, Michael can get shot in the head, get up and try to kill you!! That whole scene in Halloween 2 when Michaels blind and covering his eyes and just swinging wildly into the air is creepy.

[Nightmare]

Best part on Halloween 2 is when Michael stick's that nurses head in the boiling tub.

[ABleedingCorpse]

What I'd like to see Zombie to is a little homage to the 'razor blade' in the candy. That image of the kid arriving to the Hospital spitting blood and showing he has a razor blade in his mouth is classic.

[steintym]

For those complaining about Michael being shot in the head in the remake and living......Michael was shot TWICE in the head in Halloween 2, still managed not to fall down dead and fought to swing a blade around blind!!! So yeS, Michael can get shot in the head, get up and try to kill you!! That whole scene in Halloween 2 when Michaels blind and covering his eyes and just swinging wildly into the air is creepy.

:up:

[The Apatow Crew]

Someone asked they though the trailer for this might debut.

Well, I forgot the new sam raimi horror flick drag me to hell comes out the end of may. A teaser could be attached to that. Its from Universal pictures.

[The Dark Defender]

For those complaining about Michael being shot in the head in the remake and living......Michael was shot TWICE in the head in Halloween 2, still managed not to fall down dead and fought to swing a blade around blind!!! So yeS, Michael can get shot in the head, get up and try to kill you!! That whole scene in Halloween 2 when Michaels blind and covering his eyes and just swinging wildly into the air is creepy.

Rob's Halloween relies on a depiction of a very realistic serial killer, not a personified depiction of fate and pure evil, as he was in the original.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Someone asked they though the trailer for this might debut.

Well, I forgot the new sam raimi horror flick drag me to hell comes out the end of may. A teaser could be attached to that. Its from Universal pictures. That would be great! :up:

[sandmjuggalos]

Rob's Halloween relies on a depiction of a very realistic serial killer, not a personified depiction of fate and pure evil, as he was in the original.

I fully endorse this post. :word:

[ABleedingCorpse]

Rob's Halloween relies on a depiction of a very realistic serial killer, not a personified depiction of fate and pure evil, as he was in the original.

Ah, but you're wrong. Michael was portrayed very realistic (stupid word to describe things) in the 1st one. It wasn't until towards the end when Michael was actually being shot that it was transpired into that 'unstoppable' force. In Zombie's film, it was the same thing...Michael got shot 6 times by Loomis, still managed to get up and attack, then get shot a couple more times before going out a window, then shot in the head. I think Zombie reconized that even though it's portayed realistic (stupid word to descripe things anyways), Michael was and still is an 'unstoppable force'.

Michael's fate was still basicly the same in the original and remake. But knowning that Michael is unstoppable, it's easy to make a sequal that dewells on that to the point where, 'yeah, he got shot in the head, so what? he got up and started killing again'.

[The Joker]

I wouldn't say him being shot was when we first saw that he was an unstoppable force. He did survive Laurie stabbing him in the neck with a knitting needle, and Laurie stabbing him in the chest with his own knife.

[Cagefighterkip]

Rob's Halloween relies on a depiction of a very realistic serial killer, not a personified depiction of fate and pure evil, as he was in the original.

Here's a man who knows the time. Best post posted on the "H2" thread.

[Cagefighterkip]

Well, I forgot the new sam raimi horror flick drag me to hell comes out the end of may. A teaser could be attached to that. Its from Universal pictures.

I'd love that, if it's with "Drag Me To Hell" I'll see it, but even if the "H2
trailer and/or teaser isn't with the flick I'll see it anyways (Raimi + Return to Horror = my ass in a seat).

[Norman Bates]

Rob's Halloween relies on a depiction of a very realistic serial killer, not a personified depiction of fate and pure evil, as he was in the original.

You are correct. Something I find people not quite understanding.

[JustABill]

Did any of you not see the same remake I did? Michael while being portrayed as a realistic style killer was still so not realistic in the damage he could take. He got shot multiple times, stabbed, shot some more, and just keep coming. That's pretty much right up there with old school Michael/Michael from the original.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Did any of you not see the same remake I did? Michael while being portrayed as a realistic style killer was still so not realistic in the damage he could take. He got shot multiple times, stabbed, shot some more, and just keep coming. That's pretty much right up there with old school Michael/Michael from the original.

I don't get it either? Was there a completely different verion of Rob's film I haven't seen? I'm actually getting tired of this discussion of comparing Zombie's film to Carpenters.

[Johnny Drama]

I am getting tired of it too. It's redic.
To even compare RZ's Hallooween to Carpenters...

[Nivek]

Rob's Halloween relies on a depiction of a very realistic serial killer, not a personified depiction of fate and pure evil, as he was in the original.

In the original, Michael was just an escapee from a mental ward who killed some teenagers and tried to kill a babysitter. The 2nd film established the brother-sister thing, Michael not bleeding to death, and that bloody "Samhain" on that chalkboard started up with this whole supernatural "pure evil" b.s. some people hold on too.

Zombie is just making Michael very hard to kill, not a sleepwalker who kills people once a year after waking up from a magical "Curse of Thorn" coma.

[nocomics]

They have a teaser poster up in my local theatre,and I thought it was just a bad dream :)

[Johnny Drama]

Here is a simple manip I made of how I want to see Michael look in the new one, and it is also a great way to honor the classic look of Michael and also Zombies take in the remake..


My manip...
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/MichaelMyers-1.jpg?t=1236883960


Original picture...
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/MichaelMyers.jpg?t=1236884019

[ABleedingCorpse]

It looks like a cool manip, making the mask whiter and the black eyes..

Who knows....??

[The Apatow Crew]

I don't know about anyone else, but i like the jumpsuit in the manip.

[ABleedingCorpse]

The grey looks good. Michael will be getting new 'digs', so anythings possible.

[Johnny Drama]

I don't know about anyone else, but i like the jumpsuit in the manip.


Thanks JAL!

[The Apatow Crew]

I think the grey looks better with the mask.

[Nightmare]

Here is a simple manip I made of how I want to see Michael look in the new one, and it is also a great way to honor the classic look of Michael and also Zombies take in the remake..


My manip...
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/MichaelMyers-1.jpg?t=1236883960


Original picture...
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k332/Christopher_Jason/MichaelMyers.jpg?t=1236884019

I like the manip a lot better, the black eyes, the dark overalls. Hopefully it looks more like the manip in the next film. I really want the mask to be noticeably different.

[Johnny Drama]

I like the manip a lot better, the black eyes, the dark overalls. Hopefully it looks more like the manip in the next film. I really want the mask to be noticeably different.


Thanks Nightmare, Glad you like it!

[ABleedingCorpse]

The idenity of the NEW young Michael Myers has been revealed. It is child actor Chase Wright Vanek! I'm bad at posting pictures to this forum, so I'll just say go check him out over at Bloody-Disgusting where they have his picture posted.

First off, though it's sad to lose Daeg, this kid actually appears to be a bit more 'fitting' for the role. I approve of this casting. The kid looks a bit 'blank' and 'empty', along with having the features 'Daeg' had.

Personaly, don't see how people can complain about this casting (other than the obvious it's not Daeg approach).

[Nightmare]

Yikes. Someone's got balls at Warner Bros./New Line and they're lookin' for a box office fight. The studio's late-summer horror release Final Destination: Death Trip 3D shifted into an August 14th debut from its original August 21st slot. But now it's being pushed back to August 28th...

...a weekend reserved by Dimension Films for Michael Myers.

Yes, the 28th is the release date for Rob Zombie's H2 (aka Halloween 2) so this is going to get very interesting. Will Warner Bros./New Line shift again? Or are the Weinstein brothers going to flinch - as they have done in the past (see: Primeval vs. Rogue) - and bump Zombie's sequel further down the line? What Final Destination has is the prospect of a fun time at the movies in 3-D. But, audiences may be curious to see in which direction Zombie steers ol' Mikey Myers next.

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=9874

[ABleedingCorpse]

Read that too. I'll see Halloween of course...

[Spider-ManHero12]

I hope they don't change the release date.

[Johnny Drama]

I'm bad at posting pictures to this forum,



I can show you how to. It's easy...

[Cagefighterkip]

Yikes. Someone's got balls at Warner Bros./New Line and they're lookin' for a box office fight. The studio's late-summer horror release Final Destination: Death Trip 3D shifted into an August 14th debut from its original August 21st slot. But now it's being pushed back to August 28th...

...a weekend reserved by Dimension Films for Michael Myers.

Yes, the 28th is the release date for Rob Zombie's H2 (aka Halloween 2) so this is going to get very interesting. Will Warner Bros./New Line shift again? Or are the Weinstein brothers going to flinch - as they have done in the past (see: Primeval vs. Rogue) - and bump Zombie's sequel further down the line? What Final Destination has is the prospect of a fun time at the movies in 3-D. But, audiences may be curious to see in which direction Zombie steers ol' Mikey Myers next.

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=9874

i didnt like the final destination movies, so i highly doubt ill see the new one (the only thing that piques my curiosity is the fact that it is in 3d), but i cant wait for "H2" ill see that in a heartbeat

[Cagefighterkip]

however i do hope halloween 2 gets moved back to be released closer to the end of october though... just kinda, yaknow, makes sense

[gwynplaine]

I've always wondered if they had to get some sort of permission from Shatner for using his likeness in Michael's mask ? Probably not, as he is not that recognisable.

[Cagefighterkip]

I've always wondered if they had to get some sort of permission from Shatner for using his likeness in Michael's mask ? Probably not, as he is not that recognisable.

prolly not
though shatner seems like a bit of a prick so i could see him doing that

[Cagefighterkip]

Funny Story:
not rly related to "H2" but it is related to Michael Meyers, back in 2001 when "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" came out on DVD and had big $$$ numbers, the Weinsteins wanted Kevin Smith to make a series of horror comedies in the vein of "Abbot and Costello meet the Wolfman/Frankenstein etc" with Pinhead and Michael Meyers under Dimension.

Kevin said it's a retarded idea, as did Ben Affleck when Kevin told him about it, but then reconsidering (almost doing it), Smith's logic being "thats so retarded, but everyone would prolly see it" lol.

His premise for "Jay and Silent Bob meet Pinhead" was that Jay and Silent Bob find the cube that opens up their version of Hell, and their version of hell was REHAB. Smith scrapped it when the story hit too close to home with Jay's real life drug and alcohol addiction at the time. Not rly H2 related, but it is Halloween related (a lil)... just thought it was a funny story.

[gwynplaine]

Funny Story:
not rly related to "H2" but it is related to Michael Meyers, back in 2001 when "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" came out on DVD and had big $$$ numbers, the Weinsteins wanted Kevin Smith to make a series of horror comedies in the vein of "Abbot and Costello meet the Wolfman/Frankenstein etc" with Pinhead and Michael Meyers under Dimension.

Kevin said it's a retarded idea, as did Ben Affleck when Kevin told him about it, but then reconsidering (almost doing it), Smith's logic being "thats so retarded, but everyone would prolly see it" lol.

His premise for "Jay and Silent Bob meet Pinhead" was that Jay and Silent Bob find the cube that opens up their version of Hell, and their version of hell was REHAB. Smith scrapped it when the story hit too close to home with Jay's real life drug and alcohol addiction at the time. Not rly H2 related, but it is Halloween related (a lil)... just thought it was a funny story.
Lol. Cool trivia. I love those Abbot and Costello movies, I am glad Smith didn't go there.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Actually, when Halloween came out they didn't need his permission because the identity of the mask used was not important. However, a couple years passed and people started talking and Star Trek got involved and Shatner wanted royalties. It's settled now, but they can't copy or use the 'Kirk' mask anymore. There are way to get around it, as you've seen the 'kirk' mask replica's on the web but they never say it's from Halloween, it's named differently.

But to answer the question, YES, Shatner and Star Trek have gotten involved since Halloween 2 to prevent the use of the 'kirk' mask again on film.

[gwynplaine]

Actually, when Halloween came out they didn't need his permission because the identity of the mask used was not important. However, a couple years passed and people started talking and Star Trek got involved and Shatner wanted royalties. It's settled now, but they can't copy or use the 'Kirk' mask anymore. There are way to get around it, as you've seen the 'kirk' mask replica's on the web but they never say it's from Halloween, it's named differently.

But to answer the question, YES, Shatner and Star Trek have gotten involved since Halloween 2 to prevent the use of the 'kirk' mask again on film.
Thanks for the info:up:.

[Cagefighterkip]

Actually, when Halloween came out they didn't need his permission because the identity of the mask used was not important. However, a couple years passed and people started talking and Star Trek got involved and Shatner wanted royalties. It's settled now, but they can't copy or use the 'Kirk' mask anymore. There are way to get around it, as you've seen the 'kirk' mask replica's on the web but they never say it's from Halloween, it's named differently.

But to answer the question, YES, Shatner and Star Trek have gotten involved since Halloween 2 to prevent the use of the 'kirk' mask again on film.

wow
i guess i was right about the Shat'.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Shatner's a prick. His ego is over the top and he thinks he's on some sort 'higher' trip than others. As if he can do no wrong and is still huge sucessful actor. He's Captain Kirk and that's all he'll ever be and all his fame is from Star Trek and he doesn't like that anymore so he does all these little things like commercails and his interview show and believes people watch him because he's Shatner, when in fact he's just that guy who was Kirk.

He's a prick. But as far as his deal with Halloween and the mask, he's actually in the clear there, don't blame him...likeness is likeness and useing someone else should be paid for.