Tim Robbins is Howard Stark, Hawkeye & Black Widow are in?

[Chewy]

El Mayimbe here...

Got a new source and even though it is a tad bit late at night to double check, he passed my prelimanary source check and besides I figured this scoop is too damn hot to wait till morning. Anyway, we all need a jodido break from all these corny whack ass Batman 3 casting rumors.

Ya'll want some real Superhero casting news of the Marvel variety?

How about this!

From what I'm told, Tim Robbins is going to be playing Howard Stark in an important flashback sequence that is going to set up the Avengers and Captain America films. Jon [Favreau] wanted to get a good actor because he didn't think the guy who played Howard in the last film could carry such an important scene.

Makes sense to me because Howard Stark would be around the time of the Captain America Super Soldier experiment.

That is not all, check this out...

I'm also told that HAWKEYE and BLACK WIDOW are definitely in Iron Man 2 (http://latinoreview.com/films/iron-man-2-1332) and they wont be cameos either.

You guys want to take this as a rumor due to the timing then it's all good with me till further notice.

Stay tuned as more develops and Happy Holidays folks!

SOURCE (http://latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-scoop-the-player-may-join-stark-industries-5873)

[bunk]

If Tim Robbins makes an appearance in any Marvel movie, I'll be very pleased about it.

[Chewy]

Damn typos... it won't let me change the title :lmao:

[Chewy]

Also, it seems to me that we'll probably get the Ultimate "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." BW and Hawkeye if they're both in as supporting characters.

[DBZ2cool]

Uh oh. They are stuffing those two characters in this movie. This is going to be SM3 all over again where they just put characters that won't be fleshed out. Ah well. Anyways I hope this movie still turns out to be awesome.

[Chewy]

^ Except that this isn't 3 random villains that have nothing to do with each other thrown into a story where they don't mesh all that well - these are characters who have years worth of interactions and shared storylines in comics to draw from.

[[A]]

SOURCE (http://latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-scoop-the-player-may-join-stark-industries-5873)

Just read about. Let's see how that turns out

[Chewy]

Just read about. Let's see how that turns out
I agree, but this is the same guy who scooped Brandon Routh, Heath Ledger, Aaron Eckhart, Maggie Gyllenhaal, etc.... this feels pretty legit to me.

[[A]]

I agree, but this is the same guy who scooped Brandon Routh, Heath Ledger, Aaron Eckhart, Maggie Gyllenhaal, etc.... this feels pretty legit to me.
Oh but I meant in the movie :woot: I know that site's reputation ;)

[Chewy]

Ah, gotcha :)

[bunk]

Uh oh. They are stuffing those two characters in this movie. This is going to be SM3 all over again where they just put characters that won't be fleshed out. Ah well. Anyways I hope this movie still turns out to be awesome.

Presumably, this two characters will be members of the Avengers assuming all this is true. Setting up the characters prior to the actual Avengers movie seems like a reasonable idea to me.

[Double Down]

Damn typos... it won't let me change the title :lmao:

"How rad" is this news? :yay:

[Congo Jack]

Terrific casting.

Also, it seems to me that we'll probably get the Ultimate "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." BW and Hawkeye if they're both in as supporting characters.
Bruce Willis as Hawkeye?

"How rad" is this news? :yay:
Double Down, from SWINGERS? If so, I commend your good taste.

[Wesley Dodds]

Tim Robbins appearing in anything is always welcome. He's a good choice but Hawkeye? HAWKEYE!? I hate Hawkeye! When will you foolish humans learn that being handy with a bow and arrow is NOT a superpower! Same goes for Green Arrow.

[Frank Castle 4]

No expert but the inclusion of Widow and Hawkeye could be a part of the Crimson Dynamo story arc. That would be very cool in my eyes.

[Iron_Stark]

Tim Robbins as Howard is great casting.

I want Milla Jovovich (sp) for Black Widow.

I don't know who I'd want for Hawkeye.

[arachnid-guy]

Brilliant if it's true.

Looking forward to see how this all plays out!

Especially a S.H.I.E.L.D Hawkeye/Widow storyline.

[batman44]

Sounds good to me.

[FaT_tONle]

Too much Avengers setup... let me rephrase that... WAY TO MUCH Avengers setup... Marvel seems to be throwing all their eggs in one basket. These roles better be small... that's all I can say.

[Frank Castle 4]

^ I don't think it's too much or that they need to be small. The Crimson Dynamo story line from the comics seems like a perfect way to introduce BW and Hawkeye. The message at the end of the last film was that he wasn't alone. This is a good way to pick up on that and set up Avengers. I'm really excited for it.

:unishr:

[Chewy]

Too much Avengers setup... let me rephrase that... WAY TO MUCH Avengers setup... Marvel seems to be throwing all their eggs in one basket. These roles better be small... that's all I can say.
Yeah, but in The Ultimates Hawkeye/Widow were Nick Fury's black ops team, his top soldiers. Since they went with Ultimate Fury including both makes a lot of sense to me. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Avengers, this could just be a storyline involving S.H.I.E.L.D.

[Frank Castle 4]

Chewy,

I've been going back and forth on that one too. Seems like they could go the Ultimates route very easily, but still mix in a little bit of the original Crimson Dynamo story too.

I love this because of that...the possibilities are so many that we have months to sit and speculate!!

[Darthkush]

Very excited about Hawkeye and Widow. I personally hope that they ARE part of the Avengers team though. Let's see then, we'll probably have Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Antman/Giant man, and Wasp, along with Hulk. I mean, that's pretty much perfect isn't it? We could always trade one or two of those out later for Scarlet Witch and/or Vision or somebody too in an sequel.

[Rac]

Bruce Willis as Hawkeye?
Too old!

[MarvelMovies]

If Tim Robbins makes an appearance in any Marvel movie, I'll be very pleased about it.

Definitely!

He's one of my favorite actors and Shawshank Redemption is my favorite movie. Tim Robbins would be awesome to see in any Marvel film, and I think Iron Man 2 is just the place to start.

Could Tim Robbins make an appearance in Captain America as well? I guess we'll have to wait and see what Marvel has up their sleeve.

[Chewy]

This'll be Tim Robbins' second Marvel flick :cwink:

[MarvelMovies]

This'll be Tim Robbins' second Marvel flick :cwink:

Howard the Duck doesn't count...

[Mister J]

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8186/howard2rs6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


:lmao:

[Chewy]

Howard the Duck doesn't count...
Unfortunately, it does.

[Congo Jack]

Also, it seems to me that we'll probably get the Ultimate "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." BW and Hawkeye if they're both in as supporting characters.Bruce Willis as Hawkeye?Too old!
Not if they go Ultimate, since he started S.H.I.E.L.D. with Nick Fury, not to mention that's who Ultimate Hawkeye was based on. I'd prefer someone closer to the classic 616 Hawkeye though.

Anyway whoever they go with, I want the first promotional images to have "We think Hawkeye is so terrific we plastered him all over our poster!" on it. Gotta love Stan Lee's shameless promotion.

[MarvelMovies]

Unfortunately, it does.

Tim Robbins - From Howard the Duck to Howard Stark.

Marvel - From Howard the Duck to Iron Man.

I guess everybody's career has to start somewhere.

[protocida]

I think Hawkeye and Black Widow will be SHIELD agents and Nick Fury (Who Samuel L. Jackson confirmed it'll have a bigger role) bodyguards. And i think Tony's father is going to be involved in the Supersoldier serum creation. I tought of that ever since The Incredible Hulk.

[Ironfan72]

I am thrilled with Tim Robbins as Howard Stark, curtainly opens some interesting stories on just how involved Stark Industries have been with the creation of SHEILD and the super soldier serum.
Black widow is a natural for an Iron Man story as the title is where she first appeared as well as Hawkeye, though I am still more interested in just an Iron Man story than an Avengers set up, thru Iron Man's popularity.

[I Am The Knight]

This is very interesting. I'm loving this Avengers setup, and Tim Robbins is very likeable.

[GNR]

Tim Robbins appearing in anything is always welcome. He's a good choice but Hawkeye? HAWKEYE!? I hate Hawkeye! When will you foolish humans learn that being handy with a bow and arrow is NOT a superpower! Same goes for Green Arrow.

never read the Ultimates?Hawkeye is more of the "Rambo" type badass of the team

[ThatOneGuy]

Sooouuunds fantastic!

[GNR]

the inclusion of Hawkeye and Widow makes sense,especially if Fury is going to be in this

I'm all for the setup of SHIELD having a black ops division in the movies and this is a perfect way to do that

Hawkeye ---> Jason Statham

[[A]]

Oh noes.

[Rac]

Not if they go Ultimate, since he started S.H.I.E.L.D. with Nick Fury, not to mention that's who Ultimate Hawkeye was based on. I'd prefer someone closer to the classic 616 Hawkeye though.
Me too.

[CapFirstAvenger]

I would love to have Black Widow and Hawkeye's Ultimate versions in this movie.

Fury would want them to team up with Tony to take out Crimson Dynamo in Russia (who is under orders by Mandarin), but Tony for some reason or another succumbs to his alcoholism, forcing Rhodes to don the War Machine uniform.

Woah that sounds like way too much...Nevermind, I don't even know anymore.

[X-man]

Is anyone super-excited of all this connection between Marvel movies?I sure am!

[Mister Sinister]

I'm looking forward to The Shawshank Redemption 2 now, where Red and Andy end up working for big name weapons companies.

think about it

[Congo Jack]

I demand this happens in the Avengers movie: :woot:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/SnarkFree/1571_4_223.jpg

[Kmack]

Sounds brilliant! Robbins really knows his ****. And I hope the Black Widow/Hawkeye rumor is true, they're 2 of my faves!!:D

[protocida]

It would be cool to see Hawkeye and Black Widow invading two building like they do in "The Ultimates vol. 1". They can replace the aliens with terrorists or something.

[Chris B]

I'm sure about how I feel about Black Widow and Hawkeye appearing. It'll depend on how large of a role they'll have. I don't want IM2 to end up as being a two-hour long set-up for the Avengers.

[[A]]

This read Ultimates all over the place :funny:

[GNR]

The Ultimate versions are the way to go for Clint and Natasha.They're more in the vein of black ops/military/badasses than superheroes and that wouldn't really make things crowded.Tony being the lone superhero in his movie will still work out.

[Ziggyman]

Hawkeye...Very nice...

So Robbins will be in only one scene?

[cerealkiller182]

Robbins is a good choice.

I am excited hearing about Hawkeye and Black Widow

[[A]]

With so many people around, I'd say they'll be getting 5 minutes on screen

[Chewy]

So Robbins will be in only one scene?
Sounds like it, but he could always show up in Cap, too.


Also, Jensen Ackles for Hawkeye :oldrazz:

[kedrell]

I don't see why he would need more than 5 minutes anyway since it's going to be a flashback scene.

[[A]]

I meant the other two.. Purple Arrow and the russian chick :hehe:

[YJ1]

If Tim Robbins makes an appearance in any Marvel movie, I'll be very pleased about it.

I'll tolerate him and his anti-American sniveling only because it IS a Marvel movie. He's a fine actor but he's such an A-hole away from the set.

[bunk]

Most actors are.

[FrostBite]

If Black Widow / Hawkeye are in this film, I don't want to see Giant Man/Ant-man or Wasp anywhere near the Avengers. Just... too many characters.

Actually now that I think about it, I think I'd like the Avengers more without Pym and Janet.

Yeah, I said it.

[Chewy]

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4326/93935198408hankpymsuperyf5.jpg

[kedrell]

^So he liked spousal abuse in the 616 as well.

[kedrell]

If Black Widow / Hawkeye are in this film, I don't want to see Giant Man/Ant-man or Wasp anywhere near the Avengers. Just... too many characters.

Actually now that I think about it, I think I'd like the Avengers more without Pym and Janet.

Yeah, I said it.

Fair enough. But for my money, it just wouldn't seem right to leave them out. Their both founding members for chrissakes. HE & BW aren't.

[Spider-Fan]

Hmmm...does this mean we won't have the Pyms in Avengers (as members that is)? I doubt we can have 7 members of the Avengers, and I did think setting up the two that won't have films to themselves first was a good idea. However, I pictured the Pyms in that capacity. Not Hawkeye and Widow. Plus, we'll get the lamer ultimizations in all likely hood of them. I can easily see the Pym's being cut out now.

Robbins as Howard Stark works for me :up:

I hope we get maybe a merge of the ultimate looks for Widow and Hawkeye with their 616 personalities. Less cliches, more characters :up:

[Chewy]

Hmmm...does this mean we won't have the Pyms in Avengers (as members that is)? I doubt we can have 7 members of the Avengers, and I did think setting up the two that won't have films to themselves first was a good idea. However, I pictured the Pyms in that capacity. Not Hawkeye and Widow. Plus, we'll get the lamer ultimizations in all likely hood of them. I can easily see the Pym's being cut out now.
Why not? That Ultimate Avengers DTV cartoon flick managed the exact same roster, minus Hawkeye. Sure, it was bad, but it was a 90-ish minute animated kid's flick. Here, they're going to have professional writers and all of the stars and directors of the solo flicks to bounce ideas off of.

I've always thought we'd be getting Widow/Hawkeye in some semblence of their Ultimate personas in Avengers, so this doesn't change what the roster would be, at least in my mind.

[FrostBite]

Fair enough. But for my money, it just wouldn't seem right to leave them out. Their both founding members for chrissakes. HE & BW aren't.

True, but if you are going to put them in, I'd prefer some lead in, rather than slap them in. Wouldn't do them justice.

Why not? That Ultimate Avengers DTV cartoon flick managed the exact same roster, minus Hawkeye. Sure, it was bad, but it was a 90-ish minute animated kid's flick. Here, they're going to have professional writers and all of the stars and directors of the solo flicks to bounce ideas off of.

I've always thought we'd be getting Widow/Hawkeye in some semblence of their Ultimate personas in Avengers, so this doesn't change what the roster would be, at least in my mind.

I thought that cartoon was awesome... then again, I am a Hulk fan, and Hulk kind of stole the show, so no wonder I am happy :oldrazz:.

Still, one difference. It was a cartoon. A cartoon can fit in 7 super beings without worrying about budget, screen-time, or plot.

A live action movie has much more money involved for special effects for each person and salaries to be paid for two more characters.

I still say, leave the Pyms out, keep their money, concentrate on the other characters. They already have to create one CGI character, and one CGI robot suit mixed with whatever the global threat will have to be, as well as paying for the salaries of all these big actors. Marvel, in my opinion, is already really pushing it.

[Chewy]

But Hawkeye and Black Widow are the cheapest characters to pull off, so I still don't see how their addition would change whether the Pyms are in or not.

Heck, let's leave out Hulk. Or Thor. THOSE are the expensive characters, right? Except they are and always have been important characters, and leaving them out is doing a major disservice to their fans.

Leaving out the Pyms would be like leaving the Martian Manhunter out of a Justice League movie. Sure, no one who hasn't read comic books knows who he is, but he is vital to not only the story but the entire dynamic of the team.

[FrostBite]

But Hawkeye and Black Widow are the cheapest characters to pull off, so I still don't see how their addition would change whether the Pyms are in or not.

Heck, let's leave out Hulk. Or Thor. THOSE are the expensive characters, right? Except they are and always have been important characters, and leaving them out is doing a major disservice to their fans.

Leaving out the Pyms would be like leaving the Martian Manhunter out of a Justice League movie. Sure, no one who hasn't read comic books knows who he is, but he is vital to not only the story but the entire dynamic of the team.

I am not saying I wouldn't like to see them pull off the Pyms. I am saying I'd prefer them not in at this point. Heck, Avengers will probably get a sequel at some point.

I agree, they are founding members, and probably should be there. I realize it'd be a major disservice to their fans. I always expected them to be in and not Hawkeye or BW. But since Marvel seems intent on wedging in the latter... I say leave them out.

Unless Hawkeye and BW are reduced to "Body-gaurd-I-don't-really-do-anything" status... in which case would be a major disservice to their fans.

Some fans, of some character, are bound to get screwed over here. Trust me, as a Hulk fan I see it coming for ol' Green Skin. He may be in, but he'll probably do close to nothing except maybe one mindless rampage close to the end.

[Spider-Fan]

Hawkeye and Widow may be CHEAP to pull off, but you have to flesh these characters out still. Focusing on just 7 heroes, not counting Fury or the villains and other supporting characters, is hard. Yes, I am aware that not all the characters are going to be evenly developed. I expect Cap to be the most in Avengers. But, it is still 7 characters you need to focus on. I don't see them trying to use that many heroes in the same movie in a first outing. I think it is too much. We may get the Pyms in a supporting capacity, but not as actual members. I don't see them using 7 members.

I'd rather have the Pyms than Widow or Hawkeye personally, but I understand the decision if they do this.

[Congo Jack]

This might sound like a strange shout, but howsabout Vince Vaughn for Clint? Bear in mind that it's a Jon Favreau movie.

[FrostBite]

Hawkeye and Widow may be CHEAP to pull off, but you have to flesh these characters out still. Focusing on just 7 heroes, not counting Fury or the villains and other supporting characters, is hard. Yes, I am aware that not all the characters are going to be evenly developed. I expect Cap to be the most in Avengers. But, it is still 7 characters you need to focus on. I don't see them trying to use that many heroes in the same movie in a first outing. I think it is too much. We may get the Pyms in a supporting capacity, but not as actual members. I don't see them using 7 members.

I'd rather have the Pyms than Widow or Hawkeye personally, but I understand the decision if they do this.

Agree with this post 100%. It'd have to be one heck of a long movie to flesh out that many people.

And let's not forget.... Zak Penn was the last in talks for the Avengers. Only this time I doubt Ed Norton will be around to clean up his script. :csad:

[Spider-Fan]

Agree with this post 100%. It'd have to be one heck of a long movie to flesh out that many people.

And let's not forget.... Zak Penn was the last in talks for the Avengers. Only this time I doubt Ed Norton will be around to clean up his script. :csad:

Yeah, Penn is not exactly character development man. Avengers is still a while away, and I think Penn will at least provide a decent template of when action scenes take place, while someone polishes the dialogue/character scenes.

This movie would have to be TDK length at least to flesh out that many characters, and some would still get short changed. Not gonna happen. We can add to the roster in Avengers 2, especially if we get someone like Ultron as a singular threat. But for a first outing, 7 is too many. 5 is the right number for now.

[TheVileOne]

It's interesting if it comes to fruition. Hawkeye and Black Widow are actually both important characters and made I think their first appearances in Iron Man comics when they were both criminals.

If they go with the ultimate versions, eh we'll see. They definitely didn't really use ultimate Tony Stark.

I was kind of hoping if they used Howard Stark, it would be the person who played him in the photographs in the first movie ;) . But I guess Tim Robbins works.

Just hope Iron Man 2 doesn't get too crowded since it will be the first true blue Marvel Studios flick since Incredible Hulk.

[Congo Jack]

This might sound like a strange shout, but howsabout Vince Vaughn for Clint? Bear in mind that it's a Jon Favreau movie.
Wow, no. Just watched THE BREAK-UP (Favreau is hilarious in that btw) with this in mind, and Vaughn is so completely wrong that I might just be a little bit insane. His co-star Cole Hauser might be good for Hawkeye though.

If they go with the ultimate versions, eh we'll see. They definitely didn't really use ultimate Tony Stark.
Mark Millar disagrees with you. But he is his own biggest pimp.

I really hope they don't go with Ultimate Black Widow because of her revelation as the killer of Hawkeye's wife and children and ultimate betrayal of Tony and the Ultimates. Great revelation, but it'd be a shame to lose 616 Black Widow.

[Chewy]

They can go with Ultimate Widow and just have her not kill Hawkeye's family and they can go with Ultimate Hawkeye and just have him not have a family

[Spider-Fan]

I'm starting to get concerned IM2 is becoming more an Avengers prequel than an Iron Man movie. I mean, setting up Avenger is fine and all, but this is still the Iron Man franchise. It's supposed to be about him.

[TheVileOne]

Wow, no. Just watched THE BREAK-UP (Favreau is hilarious in that btw) with this in mind, and Vaughn is so completely wrong that I might just be a little bit insane. His co-star Cole Hauser might be good for Hawkeye though.


Mark Millar disagrees with you. But he is his own biggest pimp.

I really hope they don't go with Ultimate Black Widow because of her revelation as the killer of Hawkeye's wife and children and ultimate betrayal of Tony and the Ultimates. Great revelation, but it'd be a shame to lose 616 Black Widow.
Mark Millar also wrote, "Hulk not a sissyboy, Hulk straight!"

Cole Hauser as Hawkeye!

Iron Man: "I'm taking you to jail today Hawkeye."

Hawkeye: "For what? Being awesome?"

[Congo Jack]

Mark Millar also wrote, "Hulk not a sissyboy, Hulk straight!"
I do not like Mark Millar's Ultimate Banner or Hulk at all. Thought he did a good job with Tony though.

Cole Hauser as Hawkeye!

Iron Man: "I'm taking you to jail today Hawkeye."

Hawkeye: "For what? Being awesome?"
That sounds like something Hawkeye could say.

I love how in that movie Hauser pretty much played Trent from SWINGERS for the MTV generation.

[Goodfellas]

I feel like they are focusing way to much on a future Avengers movie instead of an Iron Man movie

[Spider-Vader]

I hope this is true, I'd love to see Hawkeye.

Maybe Hawkeye helps Iron Man & War Machine some time in the movie. If Hawkeye & Black Widow are in this, then that's all of the Avengers stuff I want.

If Crimson Dynamo is the main villain, then it'd make more sense for Black Widow to be in the film because maybe she knows alot about Dynamo.

[SuperKoala]

if crimson dynamo is the villian I'll ship a solid gold brick

[Spider-Vader]

Yeah, Penn is not exactly character development man. Avengers is still a while away, and I think Penn will at least provide a decent template of when action scenes take place, while someone polishes the dialogue/character scenes.

This movie would have to be TDK length at least to flesh out that many characters, and some would still get short changed. Not gonna happen. We can add to the roster in Avengers 2, especially if we get someone like Ultron as a singular threat. But for a first outing, 7 is too many. 5 is the right number for now.

TDK length would be awesome, especially since TDK didn't seem that long to me. If a movie's good, it will not seem long... well atleast to me.

if crimson dynamo is the villian I'll ship a solid gold brick
Well there were rumors of casting calls for Russian men.

[Spider-Fan]

I feel like they are focusing way to much on a future Avengers movie instead of an Iron Man movie

I think we may be heading in that direction right now also.

[[A]]

And we don't have to wait that much either :woot:

[Chewy]

I feel like they are focusing way to much on a future Avengers movie instead of an Iron Man movie
Even though both of these characters were Iron Man supporting characters before they were Avengers?

That's like saying putting Nightwing in a Batman movie is focusing too much on a future Outsiders movie :oldrazz:

[SuperKoala]

Even though both of these characters were Iron Man supporting characters before they were Avengers?

That's like saying putting Nightwing in a Batman movie is focusing too much on a future Outsiders movie :oldrazz:
no it's not:o

[cerealkiller182]

Even though both of these characters were Iron Man supporting characters before they were Avengers?

That's like saying putting Nightwing in a Batman movie is focusing too much on a future Outsiders movie :oldrazz:

Agreed, I wonder if they'll be like their original appearances. Werent they thieves stealing Stark tech

[[A]]

Even though both of these characters were Iron Man supporting characters before they were Avengers?

That's like saying putting Nightwing in a Batman movie is focusing too much on a future Outsiders movie :oldrazz:

Haha :funny: QFT!

[Spider-Fan]

Nightwing in a Batman movie is not the same thing. Yes, these characters have history with Stark, but not the the extent of nightwing. Also, when do you cross the line of making this not about Stark anymore? I mean, possbily having Iron Man, War Machine, Hawkeye, and Widow in the same movie? Along with a likely increased role for Fury? This sounds like it is treading the territory of possibly taking too much focus away from Stark in a movie about him. I hope we get AIM headed by MODOK or something (since it has been hinted Mandarin may not happen). With 4 heroes, we need a big threat.

[cerealkiller182]

^^^Disagree. They are called supporting characters. Their own existence in the movie is in the context of Stark. Its not as if Hawkeye is somehwere else doing something completely different than what Stark is up to.

[Iron_Stark]

I feel like they are focusing way to much on a future Avengers movie instead of an Iron Man movie

huh? You do know Hawkeye and Black Widow BOTH started off as Iron Man villains when they were introduced, right?

http://www.coverbrowser.com/covers/tales-of-suspense/2

Issue 52, Black Widow and Crimson Dynamo team up to battle Iron Man, issue 57 and 64 it's Black Widow and Hawkeye vs Iron Man.

[Chris B]

On the topic of villains, if we're getting Crimson Dynamo, then I hope we're getting Titanium Man as well.

[Chewy]

Moriarty from AICN is confirming this at his new site:

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-motion-captured/posts/2008-12-22-buzzkill-about-debunking-rumors

[Spider-Fan]

^^^Disagree. They are called supporting characters. Their own existence in the movie is in the context of Stark. Its not as if Hawkeye is somehwere else doing something completely different than what Stark is up to.

I realize they are going to be supporting characters, but I hope they are smart enough to make them supporting characters with a purpose. Not characters that feel thrown in for the purpose of an Avengers film. This still needs to be Iron Man's movie at the end of the day.

[cerealkiller182]

And theres nothing that says it wont be.

[SuperKoala]

yeah what he said

[Nivek]

Cole Hauser for hawkeye! He's one of Fav's posse, and he has the look.

[Jake Cassidy]

^ and he's awesome. :woot:

[Keymaker]

huh? You do know Hawkeye and Black Widow BOTH started off as Iron Man villains when they were introduced, right?

http://www.coverbrowser.com/covers/tales-of-suspense/2

Issue 52, Black Widow and Crimson Dynamo team up to battle Iron Man, issue 57 and 64 it's Black Widow and Hawkeye vs Iron Man.
It's always funny to see those old covers...so many villains that didn't get popular...the uncanny unicorn should be in the next film :D

[Spider-Fan]

And theres nothing that says it wont be.

There is also nothing that says Marvel won't take too much focus off Stark. Remember, early word was Thor possibly being in it also. The fact Marvel wants to include all these people in a big money maker would make sense to me financially, but it is starting to worry me as a fan. I hope they don't go overboard, but due to all these rumors, I can't give them the benefit of the doubt at this time.

[cerealkiller182]

There is also nothing that says Marvel won't take too much focus off Stark. Remember, early word was Thor possibly being in it also. The fact Marvel wants to include all these people in a big money maker would make sense to me financially, but it is starting to worry me as a fan. I hope they don't go overboard, but due to all these rumors, I can't give them the benefit of the doubt at this time.

But Thor sticks out like a sore thumb. HAwkeye and Black Widow started off as Iron Man supporting characters. Their placement in the movie is not a ridiculous notion.

[Fused]

yeah not to mention its in the spirit of all solo comic books. for decades you couldnt go 3 issues without seeing a random marvel hero slide into panel to help kick somethings ass.

[SuperKoala]

when is this movie coming out and how can it be crisped?

[Spider-Fan]

But Thor sticks out like a sore thumb. HAwkeye and Black Widow started off as Iron Man supporting characters. Their placement in the movie is not a ridiculous notion.

I'm going to wait and see what the damage on cameos and such is. I'm not giving Marvel a pass yet.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I have the same fears as others, I hope they dont go overboard with the amount of characters in this one, and Iron Man/Stark needs to be the focus.

[cerealkiller182]

wow. there is some serious overreaction in this thread

[Troy_Parker]

wow. there is some serious overreaction in this thread


No THERE ISN'T STFU LMAFAO :o

[SuperKoala]

yeah shutup

[Spider-ManHero12]

If this is true, then that's fantastic!

[Rich Santoro]

wow. there is some serious overreaction in this thread

ditto to that...

This can be handled well by just having them in the back ground. Perhaps they can be SHIELD agents with small parts (to develop slowly for the Avengers and A2)... or they can even be introduced as part of a a hi-tech crack team set to take down IM... Like some Jusin Hammer created baddies... Mach1, Blacklash, Spymaster, Blizzard. IM scholls all of them, leading to a Crymsan Dynamo conflict in the end... Throughout the action, HE and BW are captured, and then convert in Avengers or in A2.

Lot's of ways to roll these characters in without watering down IM.

[cerealkiller182]

Hawkeye could be the villain. He was originally tricked into stealing from Stark for Black Widow. Im sure it will come with a "puppetmaster" character who the 3 could/would team up to take down. He also appeared as a REGULAR character in the Iron Man animated series.

[tamron]

Who would you guys want to see as Hawkeye and Black Widow?

I may catch some flack for this, but I think Seann William Scott would make for a good Hawkeye.

As for Widow, I'll just say I don't want Milla Jovovich. I can't stand her.

[GNR]

We're talking Widow and Hawkeye here,very subtle characters who are easy to adapt.These aren't big superhero icons with emblems on their chests who are going to crowd the film.

relax people

[cerealkiller182]

Who would you guys want to see as Hawkeye and Black Widow?

I may catch some flack for this, but I think Seann William Scott would make for a good Hawkeye.

As for Widow, I'll just say I don't want Milla Jovovich. I can't stand her.

Ideally, Barry Pepper and Olga something or other (from Quantum of Solace).

I wouldnt be against Scott as Hawkeye

[[A]]

Kurylenko? That's an easy name to remember :hehe:

[TheVileOne]

Cole Hauser as Hawkeye:

"What are you going to arrest me for Iron Man? Being awesome?"

[Changeling]

Yeah, I'm thinking they got such a high profile actor so he could return in Captain America

[tamron]

Cole Hauser would make for a great Steranko Fury or Moon Knight. He just has an intensity to his performances that would serve those characters so well.

I want Hawkeye to be a wise-ass, and I've never seen Hauser in that kind of a role.

[TheVileOne]

Dude, go watch The Break Up sometime. Hauser's actually really funny in it. And he only has like 2 or 3 scenes. Hauser is versatile and has range, he just doesn't get the chance to show it off very much.

Before Old School, Hollywood said Vince Vaughn couldn't do comedy.

[tamron]

Before Old School, Hollywood said Vince Vaughn couldn't do comedy.

And since then, Vaughn has pretty much forgotten he was an actor and simply plays variations of Old School over and over and over....

I trust your judgment on this one Vile, Hauser's great. I would have no complaints if he's Hawkeye. (Though I really wish Marvel would do MK with him as Spector.)

[Figs]

Who would you guys want to see as Hawkeye and Black Widow?

I may catch some flack for this, but I think Seann William Scott would make for a good Hawkeye.

As for Widow, I'll just say I don't want Milla Jovovich. I can't stand her.


I agree with the big NO to Milla as Black Widow. It's not that I can't stand her or anything, it's that she's not voluptuous/curvy enough in my eyes. I don't want some skinny ass chick playing a female character like BW. That and I don't think she can act all that well.

[HailtotheKing]

Doesn't Black Widow have a lean atheltic body? Similar to that of a gymnist or a swimmer? Voluptuous and Black Widow aren't two words that seem to be synonymous with each other in my book.

If you just want someone that looks good in latex/leather/spandex then why not just hire a Playboy Playmate or a Fetish Model.

Famke Jensen doesn't come close to filling out Jean Grey's outfit but she was still cast.

In my opinion, for a character that is as athletic and acrobatic as Black Widow I think her body type should be more like this

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/395625-25771-black-widow_icon.jpg (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/395625-25771-black-widow.jpg) http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/395624-158040-black-widow_icon.jpg (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/395624-158040-black-widow.jpg) http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/16391/571426-the_ultimates_v2_10___page_18_icon.jpg (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/16391/571426-the_ultimates_v2_10___page_18.jpg) http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/130251-153615-black-widow_icon.jpg (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/130251-153615-black-widow.jpg)

And less like this

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/9490/218948-144606-black-widow_icon.jpg (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/9490/218948-144606-black-widow.jpg) http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/9490/218946-125244-black-widow_icon.jpg (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/9490/218946-125244-black-widow.jpg) http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/76799-69832-black-widow_icon.jpg (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/76799-69832-black-widow_super.jpg)

Milla out classes almost everyone mentioned for the role of Black Widow. She has the acting talent (the people that say she doesn't need to actualy watch something other than Ultraviolet and the Resident Evil movies) and she has already been trained in so much stunt work, martial arts, and gun handling that to hire someone else and waste the time and money getting her up to an acceptable level of skill would be pointless.

[Figs]

Doesn't Black Widow have a lean atheltic body? Similar to that of a gymnist or a swimmer? Voluptuous and Black Widow aren't two words that seem to be synonymous with each other in my book.

Was Famke Jensen anything close to the body type that Jean Grey has? Nope.

Milla out classes almost everyone mentioned for the role of Black Widow. She has the acting talent (the people that say she doesn't need to actualy watch something other than Ultraviolet and the Resident Evil movies) and she has already been trained in so much stunt work, martial arts, and gun handling that to hire someone else and waste the time and money getting her up to an acceptable level of skill would be pointless.

I never said I liked Famke Jensen playing Jean Grey now did I? She was just ok in my book for that character, they could have done a lot better.

Just about every Marvel/DC femal character has been curvy. Yeah Black Widow is a bit more athletic but I guess I don't see Milla being right for the role.

Oh yeah, all those reasons you picked why Milla is right for the role are pretty much why I don't want her in it. Basically, I think she's been in too many films as an action type woman and when watching the film I'll just see Milla and not Black Widow.

She may be a better actress than most think if you've seen more of her films but she plays her 'action woman' characters about the same...which is how I'm sure she'd approach the role of Black Widow.

That's just my opinion on it, maybe if she by chance is actually casted she could prove me wrong.

[TheVileOne]

If they pick someone other than Mila Kunis it will be alright. Just when I was starting to like her with Forgetting Sarah Marshall, she goes and does Max Payne as Mona Sax playing a Russian mob assassin.

[HailtotheKing]

Figs, you do realize that every female comic book character is drawn to have the typical "perfect fantasy girl" proportions right? Big bust, small waist, big hips all packaged in a skin tight outfit. They don't have realistic forms.

If you look at Milla's entire list of movies she has done, she only has three characters where she is that type you are referring to. Leeloo, Violet, and Alice. Everything else she does she just plays a normal person. And in her next four movies that are coming out she is playing a serial killer, a FBI investigator, an alcoholic ex-stripper, and a 1876 Russian seductress.

Other than being a skilled fighter, Leeloo isn't really similar to Alice or Violet at all. She played that character like an vulnerable, innocent child.

I've never bought into that "I want to see the character not the actor" because it can be used by anyone to shoot down an idea by saying that the actor has made a name for themself so they will be seen as the actor and not the character. It just seems like an easy cop out. And just image if someone at WB had vetoed the casting of Ledger for TDK because he felt that people would just see "the guy from Brokeback Moutain" instead of The Joker.

[Figs]

HailtotheKing, yes I know that females in comics are always drawn with exaggerated proportions. I don't expect them to get actresses with the body of Playmates or Pornstars to look as 'busty' as they do in the comics.

I just don't care for Milla I guess. I liked her a lot in The 5th Element but for some reason I hope they pick someone else.

Maybe get a new face out there for the role.

[Chewy]

Hawkeye - Jensen Ackles. I know fanboys throw him out for EVERY male role, but this is one that actually fits him.
Black Widow - The obvious choices are Milla Jovovich & Olga Kurylenko, but neither really is that great of an actress, imo. I was thinking Yvonne Strahovski from Chuck, but she's Australian. Not really a big deal to me, I know others probably feel differently.

[WeaponXProject]

I like Cole Hauser for Hawkeye.

As for Black Widow, I think they might go with Olga but she is just a body and face. I would rather someone with a little talent eventhough I doubt that Black Widow will be in more than a few scenes.



Tim Robbins wouldn't have been my choice for Stark's dad but he is talented. He's got to grow a power 'stache for his role.

[TheVileOne]

We should start a whole banner movement for Cole "Being Awesome" Hauser as Hawkeye.

[Figs]

Is Cole Hauser the actor who was the bounty hunter in Pitch Black?

[HailtotheKing]

Is Cole Hauser the actor who was the bounty hunter in Pitch Black?

Yes.

[Chris B]

I think I may have my facts wrong, but didn't Jovovich co-star in a film with RDJ once?

[Chewy]

^ Chaplin

[Chris B]

^ Chaplin

Thanks for clearing that up. In that case, I wonder if the chances of her being cast as Black Widow go up a bit?

[louiebling$]

I want Olga K as Black Widow .

[HailtotheKing]

Thanks for clearing that up. In that case, I wonder if the chances of her being cast as Black Widow go up a bit?

Not only did she play his first wife Mildred Harris in RDJ's Chaplin movie but she was the second lead role in the movie No Good Deed (The House on Turk Street) with Samuel L. Jackson. So she has been in movies with "Stark" and "Fury".

[kedrell]

Cole Hauser as Hawkeye:

"What are you going to arrest me for Iron Man? Being awesome?"

Hehe, some how I get the mental image of Topher Grace/Venom saying something similar to Spider-Man. Any how, I'd be fine with Hauser.

[LightningFlash]

I bet the flashback scene regarding Howard Stark is about Captain America's shield and the alloy it's made of.

[Spider-Vader]

Hehe, some how I get the mental image of Topher Grace/Venom saying something similar to Spider-Man. Any how, I'd be fine with Hauser.

Awww... Man that would of made Venom & Spider-Man 3 80 mcbillion times better. No kidding. :woot:

[AnorexicBatman]

AWESOME SAUCE!!!
HE & BW are best used as Fury's top agents and bodyguards though. I'd like the three to meet each other in full costume and have Fury do the introductions. If Crimson Dynamo is involved, Black Widow can be an important contact with Hawkeye tagging along

Also, joke question.
What if they pull a TDK and have Sam Jackson do a Oldman style monologue at the end of Iron Man II?

[kedrell]

Also, joke question.
What if they pull a TDK and have Sam Jackson do a Oldman style monologue at the end of Iron Man II?

It'd be seen as a rip-off, which it would be. IM2 shouldn't try to copy TDK. Just beat it, while at the same time being wholly different.:cwink::woot:

[LightningFlash]

What if they pull a TDK and have Sam Jackson do a Oldman style monologue at the end of Iron Man II?

Why?

Don't compare Iron Man to Batman, we already have enough posters saying the Spider-Man franchise should be identical to Batman.

[tamron]

Also, joke question.
What if they pull a TDK and have Sam Jackson do a Oldman style monologue at the end of Iron Man II?

[Sam Jackson]He ain't the Avenger we need, but he's what we got right now! So he'll lead cuz he can! But he ain't a hero! He's just a guy in a tin can! A smartass in a suit! The goddamn Iron Man![/Sam Jackson]

[LightningFlash]

[Sam Jackson]He ain't the Avenger we need, but he's what we got right now! So he'll lead cuz he can! But he ain't a hero! He's just a guy in a tin can! A smartass in a suit! The goddamn Iron Man![/Sam Jackson]

Sam Jackson: "I'm tired of these mother ****ing superheroes on this mother ****ing planet!!!"

[Colossal Spoons]

We should start a whole banner movement for Cole "Being Awesome" Hauser as Hawkeye.

I support this :up:

[Rac]

Who would you guys want to see as Hawkeye and Black Widow?

I may catch some flack for this, but I think Seann William Scott would make for a good Hawkeye.

As for Widow, I'll just say I don't want Milla Jovovich. I can't stand her.
Black Widow
Ideally: Ivana Milicevic
I guess I'd be ok with: Izabella Scorupco, Milla Jovovich, Olga Kurylenko

Hawkeye
Ideally: Don't know. Guy Pearce maybe if he'd be younger.
I guess I'd be ok with: Cole Hauser don't sound bad, Paul Walker maybe dunno, Chris Evans...

[FaT_tONle]

Cole Hauser or Josh Duhamel for Hawkeye.

[greenlantern248]

What about Bradley Cooper? I don't really know to much about Hawkeye cause I'm a DC man, but isn't he like a smartass?
Bradley played a good jerk/smartass in Wedding Crashers.
Midnight Meat Train was not a good movie but Bradley can pull of some serious roles to.

[AdamantiumWR]

Barry Pepper is the best casting suggestion Iv'e heard for Hawkeye. Imagine him from Saving Private Ryan but with a bow and arrow. Plus he kinda looks like ultimate hawkeye which is a more realistic version. Although I love 616 Hawkeye's costume.

[louiebling$]

^^ Yep BP is my pick for Hawkeye... either him or Jensen Ackles.

[Eddie Dean]

What about Bradley Cooper? I don't really know to much about Hawkeye cause I'm a DC man, but isn't he like a smartass?
Bradley played a good jerk/smartass in Wedding Crashers.
Midnight Meat Train was not a good movie but Bradley can pull of some serious roles to.
I like this idea.

I'd add Timothy Olyphant's name to the list as well.

[Figs]

I like this idea.

I'd add Timothy Olyphant's name to the list as well.

I'm not sure about Timothy Olyphant. His acting seems too dry, like he doesn't have much emotion.

Maybe I just haven't seen him in enough films, I've only seen him in The Girl Next Door, Live Free or Die Hard and Hitman.

[Eddie Dean]

Die Hard and Hitman are definitely his worst performances. Check him out in Deadwood. :up:

[Figs]

Die Hard and Hitman are definitely his worst performances. Check him out in Deadwood. :up:


Was that the HBO western drama series?

If so I have been wanting to rent the seasons for some time but keep getting sidetracked. Always looked good, didn't even know he was in that show as well.

[Threshold]

Orlando Bloom 4 Hawkeye!

http://legolas.allmyblog.com/images/legolas/legolas_logo.jpg

[Changeling]

Ehh...

[GNR]

Hawkeye
Ideally: Don't know. Guy Pearce maybe if he'd be younger.
I guess I'd be ok with: Cole Hauser don't sound bad, Paul Walker maybe dunno, Chris Evans...

In a perfect world,Hawkeye would be senor Statham...

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c239/ZeppelinCometh/001JasonStatham.jpg

highly unlikely though,he's gonna be busy with The Expendables

[louiebling$]

i dont see clint in him

[LightningFlash]

In a perfect world,Hawkeye would be senor Statham...

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c239/ZeppelinCometh/001JasonStatham.jpg

highly unlikely though,he's gonna be busy with The Expendables

Yes, the worst actor of this generation in a movie with talented actors...

[WildChild]

I so want Jansen Ackles for Hawkeye.
http://nd.blog.cz/b/bernyyy.blog.cz/nahledy/1971824.jpg

[kedrell]

Barry Pepper is the best casting suggestion Iv'e heard for Hawkeye. Imagine him from Saving Private Ryan but with a bow and arrow. Plus he kinda looks like ultimate hawkeye which is a more realistic version. Although I love 616 Hawkeye's costume.

That's the one part of the 616 that should not make it into the movie. A guy dressed all in purple with a purple "H" on his forehead? God, I hope not. His Ultimate look is pretty decent.

[TheVileOne]

Cole Hauser = Hawkeye.

Hawkeye will being awesome. He was just being rebellion.

[Savage]

That's the one part of the 616 that should not make it into the movie. A guy dressed all in purple with a purple "H" on his forehead? God, I hope not. His Ultimate look is pretty decent.

His Ultimate look is pretty much Smallville's Green Arrow so I hope they go with something else. Some kind of compromise to keep the superheroic aspect.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/a/a5/Hawkeye_%28Ultimate%29.jpghttp://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/Aniu_Lonewolf/Smallville/Green-Arrow-Hot.jpg

I'm partial to the House of M costume.

http://jjinbeat.com/Cap/StarSpangledSite/Hawkeye-HouseOfM.jpg

This is a world where Captain America, Thor and The Incredible Hulk exist after all so why not?

[bunk]

His Ultimate look is pretty much Smallville's Green Arrow so I hope they go with something else.


So what. Marvel can't use the Ultimate look now that it's been stolen for Smallville? **** that.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Cole Hauser = Hawkeye.

Hawkeye will being awesome. He was just being rebellion. Not a bad choice if you as k me, though, I haven't seen many of his films.

[AdamantiumWR]

http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/e/e5/Ult_Hawkeye.jpg/440px-Ult_Hawkeye.jpg

This is hawkeye's costume from Ultimates 3. It's kind of a modern and 616 mix.

[FaT_tONle]

yeah I'd go something like that... they can't use that Wolverine type mask... although I don't like the Ultimates mask. Just do away with that and you are set.

[Chewy]

Ultimates 3 is an abomination.

We're probably just going to get the Ultimates 2 costume. **** Smallville. What an absolute rip-off. Even the bows are the same in that comparison pic posted above.

[Savage]

So what. Marvel can't use the Ultimate look now that it's been stolen for Smallville? **** that.

My point is comparisons will come up between the two arrow characters. They're pretty much counterparts in the comics as is (the regular continuities I mean) and their costumes don't even look similar. Plus one made it to live action before the other so you see tight leather and sunglasses and it's like "Hey, it's the guy from Smallville!" "No. No, it's not. :facepalm". Those conversations are always fun. :oldrazz:

The Ultimates 3 costume probably would work though. Just...no guns.

[TheVileOne]

The last time I remember Hawkeye had a face mask like that was in Heroes Reborn :D .

Once again, Cole "Being Awesome" Hauser as Hawkeye.

Iron Man can't arrest Hawkeye for being awesome. Ain't no sin for being awesome, Hawkeye was just being rebellion.

[LightningFlash]

Smallville blows.

My two cents, lol.

[cerealkiller182]

I'll go with either Ult 1-2 or Ulti 3 costume but I think the shades instead of the Ulti 3 mask or 616 Wolvie looking ears.

[tamron]

http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/e/e5/Ult_Hawkeye.jpg/440px-Ult_Hawkeye.jpg

This is hawkeye's costume from Ultimates 3. It's kind of a modern and 616 mix.

He looks like a male Huntress.

[cerealkiller182]

He kinda always has in most of his Hawkeye costumes

[Chewy]

I hope they go with the Ultimates 2 costume

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/5915/108917138190hawkeyesupewq1.jpg

Replace the red with dark purple, put a pair of shades on him and there you go.

[louiebling$]

He should be purple(that's trademark Hawkeye) he is a superhero he a needs something to cover is face.

[dr.strange]

yeah,give him a mask dammit! and don't have him taking it off every 10 seconds.

[kedrell]

^Anything but one of those idiotic domino masks. Seriously, those are useless for protecting one's identity. The Ultimates 3 mask looks good, though.

[TheVileOne]

Well I liked the Joe Mad designs, so I agree.

[Nirvana]

Justin Hammer, Crimson Dynamo, Black Widow, Hawkeye, War Machine, Demon in a Bottle storyline, Avenger setup, bigger S.H.I.E.L.D. involvement....This script seems to be getting cluttered... :csad:

[[A]]

They can afford the paper :o

[Rich Santoro]

I like he 616 costume, but the mask would definitely need to be adjusted.

Maybe the separate mask that was used in the DD movies, with a slight flair for the Wolverine-type of eye things.

[AdamantiumWR]

Well since he hawkeye is going to be in IM instead of being introduced in The Avengers Tony could easily be developing his weapons. Maybe a high tech bow or a "mask" with a targeting system in it. That would work within the confines of the realistic IM world. Maybe Fury brings him and Widow in to get some weapons for a mission. I would love a scene where they are looking at a table of weapons and hawkeye picks up a bow and says something witty.

[Iron_Stark]

Justin Hammer, Crimson Dynamo, Black Widow, Hawkeye, War Machine, Demon in a Bottle storyline, Avenger setup, bigger S.H.I.E.L.D. involvement....This script seems to be getting cluttered... :csad:

It's not certain all of that is going to be used, Favs said he Robert and Theroux are making a story that's not from the comics, so there goes DIAB. noone knows how big of a role BW or Hawkeye will play.

War Machine at this moment is just fan speculation. If Rhodey does suit up, then what? Are they going to have him in the Avengers movie, which is already pretty cluttered as it is? My guess is WM is going to be saved for part 3.

[louiebling$]

Well they alluded to WM with the whole " Next time Baby".

[bunk]

My point is comparisons will come up between the two arrow characters. They're pretty much counterparts in the comics as is (the regular continuities I mean) and their costumes don't even look similar. Plus one made it to live action before the other so you see tight leather and sunglasses and it's like "Hey, it's the guy from Smallville!" "No. No, it's not. :facepalm". Those conversations are always fun. :oldrazz:

The Ultimates 3 costume probably would work though. Just...no guns.

Luckily nobody watches Smallville. :hehe:

[Compi716]

I hope they go with the Ultimates 2 costume

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/5915/108917138190hawkeyesupewq1.jpg

Replace the red with dark purple, put a pair of shades on him and there you go.
The Ultimate Hawkeye wears glasses, so I've always kind of liked that idea. The man with perfect aim...but he needs glasses.

[Savage]

Yeah, as a guy that wears glasses I always thought that was a neat touch. :woot: It's crazy how the people you least suspect wear glasses also but choose not to. Guess Hawkeye is one of those people.

[FaT_tONle]

Justin Hammer, Crimson Dynamo, Black Widow, Hawkeye, War Machine, Demon in a Bottle storyline, Avenger setup, bigger S.H.I.E.L.D. involvement....This script seems to be getting cluttered... :csad:

Yeah I hear ya... it is what it is. They need to setup the Avengers since it is penciled in for the following year as of now... I think they can save some character development for part 3... since it is usually part 3 that lacks in that department the most. Maybe the new formula is make the action packed sequel in part 2 instead of part 3.

Plus we know Demon in a Bottle will not drive the story... plus you need a Norman Osborn/Obidiah Stane/Lex Luthor type character that can challenge Stark economically. With BW in... it most likely means Bibb's character will be out... or severely reduced in the sequel. And we don't know if Rhodes will dawn the entire suit... and we don't know how much Nick Fury will factor into the script. It will be interesting to see how they work those guys in... especially Hawkeye/BW... who kinda go hand in hand. I just think had they saved this kind of stuff for part 3 leading into Avengers... it would have been worse.

[Doctor Jones]

Wait, is Robbins confirmed?

[Chewy]

El Mayimbe from LatinoReview & Moriarty from AICN have both stated that he will be in. I'd take it as confirmed.

[Mister Sinister]

If they're going with the young-and-bald look for Hawkeye, might I recommend Wentworth Miller.

[TheVileOne]

No it's not 100% confirmed Robbins is in.

People thought for sure Hillary Swank was in as Maria Hill. When after all that, it was just an actress that kind of looked like her who was juts a random dame during the Caesar's Palace scene.

Not saying it's not true. But not everything that comes from AICN and Latino Review is 100% the truth. It's good to take it with a grain of salt until we hear something more official.

[Congo Jack]

Once again, Cole "Being Awesome" Hauser as Hawkeye.

Iron Man can't arrest Hawkeye for being awesome. Ain't no sin for being awesome, Hawkeye was just being rebellion.
Were you thinking of Cole Hauser before I suggested him? Because I'd be kind of honoured if what I said was the inspiration for what now seems to be your goal in life. :cwink:

[Rac]

Yes, the worst actor of this generation in a movie with talented actors...
Lol. Hardly.

You may wanna watch London (http://akas.imdb.com/title/tt0449061/).

[House]

Sounds awesome,


Matthew Fox as Hawkeye and Hillary Swank as Black Widow :woot:

[The Major]

Sounds awesome,


Matthew Fox as Hawkeye and Hillary Swank as Black Widow :woot:
Swank would make a great BW, though I think Mila Jolovich is a great candidate. Milla looks closer visually to Ultimate BW, too.

[Nirvana]

Laura Prepon for Black Widow!

[Cagefighterkip]

buff up ryan gosling and he'd be a great Hawkeye imo --
and i want him in a movie-version of the classic purple hawkeye suit :)

[Doomed Hero Rising]

guy who plays sawyer from lost

[GNR]

jason statham for hawkeye is the right answer

[Carlo Comicus]

My spider sense tingling...

[Mister Sinister]

jason statham for hawkeye is the right answer

That would be cool, but Statham's got two films in pre-prod for 2010, I'd doubt he could fit in a third.

[CaptainClown]

This is cool, but kind of has me going "this still Iron man?"

[WillardNation]

No it's not 100% confirmed Robbins is in.

People thought for sure Hillary Swank was in as Maria Hill. When after all that, it was just an actress that kind of looked like her who was juts a random dame during the Caesar's Palace scene.

Not saying it's not true. But not everything that comes from AICN and Latino Review is 100% the truth. It's good to take it with a grain of salt until we hear something more official.

Was that in the first one? I don't remember Maria Hill being in there at all.

[WillardNation]

I like Stana Katic for Maria Hill

[Chris B]

Does anyone else think that maybe Hawkeye has been cut from the film? I find it odd that in the with all the news and rumors regarding Rockwell, Rourke, and Blunt, that we haven't heard anything regarding him.

[Chewy]

It's likely a small role

Or maybe Mickey Rourke is playing him :D

[fu manchu]

hopefully hawkeye is not that wrestler dood.

[TheVileOne]

Maria Hill WAS NOT in the first one. That brunette by Tony Stark at Caesar's Palace, people thought that was Hillary Swank. And online people were saying Swank was playing like Maria Hill (and I think also Natasha). None of those rumors were true though, and Hillary Swank was not in the movie.

[GNR]

Hmm,on that Spoiler TV site there's a casting call for a male 40s to 50s,handsome and intelligent.

Perhaps,the role for Howard Stark is still up for grabs?

[kedrell]

Well we never got any confirmation, did we?

[Octoberist]

hopefully hawkeye is not that wrestler dood.

Do you mean 'dude'? :p

[FaT_tONle]

I can't see Hawkeye being a major supporting player at this point. If anything save him for a SHIELD movie or IM3.

[TheVileOne]

Cole Hauser = my choice for Hawkeye.

[aka Kal el]

Was that in the first one? I don't remember Maria Hill being in there at all.

How about Jeffrey Dean morgan? He could easily pass for younger version of RJD father due to thier simularity.:word:

[TriGgER_JokErr]

if black widow and hawkeye make it in there i will be so happy.

black widow must be hot and hawkeye must have a good atitude

[kedrell]

How about Jeffrey Dean morgan? He could easily pass for younger version of RJD father due to thier simularity.:word:

That's do-able, IMO.

[aka Kal el]

That's do-able, IMO.

Also less expensive

[kedrell]

After seeing Watchmen, I'm inclined to think that if RDJ hadn't been cast as Tony Stark, then JDM would've done the role pretty damn good as well.

[Chewy]

Here's a wacky thought - what if Theroux is playing Hawkeye?

[WillardNation]

^^I don't think I'd mind

[Rac]

I wouldn't be against it.

[irapogi]

Here's a wacky thought - what if Theroux is playing Hawkeye?

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/5495/1057264013justintherouxms5.jpg

just ditch the accent i guess

[Colossal Spoons]

Um, he looks waaay more Bullseye lol

[Darthkush]

hmmmm, I was just wondering about Hawkeye casting. I hope he's still in. Favreau says they're making announcements this week. I hope one is Hawkeye casting.

[DocHoliday]

I hope Hawkeye is still in as well. I never knew too much about Hawkeye until I got interested in him after playing Marvel Ultimate alliance. Now he is one of my faves.

[Rac]

just ditch the accent i guess
The accent was for the role in Charlie's Angels 2. :cwink:

[sdc10]

At least give us a ref to Hawkeye, then maybe they could introduce him as a new recruit in the Avengers if hes not in this, idc i just wanna see hawkeye!

[TheVileOne]

Listen. We've already decided on Cole "Being Awesome" Hauser on Hawkeye, and that is that.

[Sub-Zero]

is hawkeye still in this movie and is robbins still howard stark???

[FlawlessVictory]

Tim Robbins Says ‘Iron Man 2’ Role Is ‘An Internet Rumor’
Published by Rick Marshall on Thursday, April 2, 2009 at 12:26 pm.

Late last year, we brought you news that “The Shawshank Redemption” actor Tim Robbins was rumored to be up for a role in “Iron Man 2″ — possibly playing Howard Stark, the father to Robert Downey Jr.’s Tony Stark.

The rumor, which was originated with the often reliable movie news site Latino Review, said that the character would appear in an “important flashback sequence that is going to set up the Avengers and Captain America films.” However, a new interview with Robbins posted on ReelTalk seems to indicate that fans might not want to hold their breath waiting for Robbins’ appearance in the film.

“That was an Internet rumor,” said Robbins when asked about his “Iron Man 2″ connection. “Can’t trust those Internets.”

Robbins was initially rumored as a replacement for the previous actor who portrayed the elder Stark, because “Iron Man 2″ director Jon Favreau “wanted to get a good actor because he didn’t think the guy who played Howard in the last film could carry such an important scene.” As we mentioned in our initial report, though, it’s that mysterious “flashback sequence” that really had our interest piqued.

Tony Stark’s father came up in conversation with “Iron Man” screenwriters Mark Fergus and Hawk Ostby back in September ‘08, and their comments prompted us to form some connections of our own between Howard Stark and Captain America in Marvel’s movie franchise.

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/04/02/tim-robbins-says-iron-man-2-role-is-an-internet-rumor/

[Wesley Dodds]

Hmmm... Well, it woulda been cool to have him aboard but whatever... This movie is gonna have enough going on as it is.

[Chewy]

It's funny how MTV's Splash Page seems to never credit where these things originally come from (http://www.cinemablend.com/new.php?id=12591)

I also noticed that Robbins doesn't actually say it's not true, he just says that it's an "internet rumor". Which, it is. But it could be an internet rumor rooted in fact :hehe:

[xisaacx]

Internet rumors, ruining fan boys hopes and dreams since day one. It coulda been nice though.

[PyroChamber]

So, is Tim Robbins not in the movie at all or is he just not playing Howard Stark?