The 2008 Presidential Inauguration

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

I think the person most relieved that Bush is leaving office today, is Bush himself. He looks giddy, to just get the hell out of dodge.

Recon in the long run history will be kinder to him than present day, opinion wise

[terry78]

I think the person most relieved that Bush is leaving office today, is Bush himself. He looks giddy, to just get the hell out of dodge.

He knows the mess Barack is gonna have to clean up, that's why.

[ih8nyy]

Honestly...8 years is a LONG time...
Especially in a job of that pressure...

I imagine MOST people would want out at that time

You got that right. I would run off the podium after the next Pres was sworn in with both middle fingers in the air.

[Wolfwood]

Man, his entrance was incredibly dramatic, I like how he lingered in the shadows for a bit there.

[SuBe]

Recon in the long run history will be kinder to him than present day, opinion wise
I agree.

[Sebastos]

It's your time Barack!

He knows the mess Barack is gonna have to clean up, that's why.

:up:

[ih8nyy]

Smart move not using the full middle name.

[Havok83]

there goes our President

[Malice]

Smart move not using the full middle name.

He might use it in the oath of office...its been said he was to use it

[Paradoxium]

You got that right. I would run off the podium after the next Pres was sworn in with both middle fingers in the air.
Dude I am no Bush fanboy, but **** if he did that, he would be my new hero. That would be epically awesome. :woot::up:

[StrainedEyes]

Smart move not using the full middle name.

He said he will use it. I'm glad he will, it's just his name.

[ih8nyy]

He might use it in the oath of office...its been said he was to use it

True.

Dude I am no Bush fanboy, but **** if he did that, he would be my new hero. That would be epically awesome. :woot::up:

It'd be friggin classic.

[Wolfwood]

Yeah I think at this point past the election, he probably wouldn't give a crap about using it.

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

She's not got much charisma.

[Sebastos]

He said he will use it. I'm glad he will, it's just his name.

Exactly, it's his full name. No big deal!

[ih8nyy]

He said he will use it. I'm glad he will, it's just his name.

Personally I don't care. But you know damn well some people will.

[Malice]

I hope Pelosi doesnt speak...i hate her with the power of 100 suns...

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

He's got charisma.

[Ahura Mazda]

I am watching this on CNN and I am amzed by the amount of people braving the cold.

[Sebastos]

Personally I don't care. But you know damn well some people will.

It's sad really.

[Ion Kenshin]

I am watching this on CNN and I am amzed by the amount of people braving the cold.
It's nust but I kind of wish I was there

[SuBe]

What does everyone think of Warren?

[ih8nyy]

It's sad really.

It is. But unfortunately there are still those folks out there.

[Malice]

A name is a name...I dont care...
HUSSEIN....HUSSEIN....HUSSEIN!
see...the world didnt end.

[Sebastos]

I wish I was there too.

[chamber-music]

That pastor dudes speech was basically we are gonna do things the way Bush didn't lol

[Havok83]

what the heck does Aretha have on her head?

[Sebastos]

It is. But unfortunately there are still those folks out there.

Yeah I know. :down

A name is a name...I dont care...
HUSSEIN....HUSSEIN....HUSSEIN!
see...the world didnt end.

:up:

[Ion Kenshin]

Yeah Aretha!!!

[chamber-music]

Aretha is doing her thang

[terry78]

Aretha with the head wrap from the African store at the mall FTW.

[JustABill]

Aretha Franklin, sing it, big girl! Sing it!

[Ion Kenshin]

Go ahead Aretha!!!!

[JP]

Dear sweet Lord, Aretha. :down

That was awful. :o

[ih8nyy]

A name is a name...I dont care...
HUSSEIN....HUSSEIN....HUSSEIN!
see...the world didnt end.

Let me go take a look outside and make sure.

[Havok83]

I guess Im the only one that didnt like her singing here

[chamber-music]

If I was Obama I would have the celebration music from Star Wars A New Hope playing after I'm sworn in.

[JustABill]

Uncle Badass does his oath!!!

[Sebastos]

Alright Joe. :up:

[JP]

So, I was watching this thing on CNN online, and then all of a sudden it stops and says steam is unavailable. I re-fresh, and it says I have to wait in line to watch the stream. :dry:

[Havok83]

looks like Obama wont be sworn in at 12

[The Game]

So, I was watching this thing on CNN online, and then all of a sudden it stops and says steam is unavailable. I re-fresh, and it says I have to wait in line to watch the stream. :dry:

Me too

[BlackLantern]

Aretha was not on her best game.....and John Williams wrote this musical piece....

[_BB_]

erm...she was singing to the british national anthem music why?

[JustABill]

looks like Obama wont be sworn in at 12
Isn't he still technically president at 12 anyways?

[chamber-music]

John Williams should of had the Superman music

[JP]

New York Times has a better stream.

[JustABill]

John Williams should of had the Superman music
My god, Obama is a geek, but that's taking it too far.

[Sebastos]

looks like Obama wont be sworn in at 12

Doesn't matter, he's president now. :up:

[Golgo-13]

John Williams must have discovered the real life lazurus pit, cause i swear that guy has walked the earth from the beginning of time.

[Franklin Richards]

Don't these four have super powers? Is this a show on the CW?



:thing: :doom: :thing:

[chamber-music]

My god, Obama is a geek, but that's taking it too far.

He probabley would of had Spideys theme :woot:

[ih8nyy]

erm...she was singing to the british national anthem music why?

We stole the music and made our own lyrics. That's the American way.

[Malice]

watch it on hulu...its been flawless

[JustABill]

Uh oh. Nervous, Obama? :(

[Havok83]

We have a new President!

[Sebastos]

President Obama!

[ih8nyy]

Way to stumble. Spit the marbles out.

[Golgo-13]

Wow, Obama nearly f'ed up his swearing in!

[JP]

Aw, he was nervous.

[BlackLantern]

CSPAN here.....Obama's like "Oh ****, I'm in it now"

[Sebastos]

Uh oh. Nervous, Obama? :(

It's a big moment for him, it's ok.

[Ion Kenshin]

President Obama Welcome!!!

[JustABill]

He took the biggest office in the country in a time where the country is so ****ed up and in mess. I'd be nervous too.

[Golgo-13]

I guess he has a right to be a tad nervous. He's now THE most powerful man in the world!

[Franklin Richards]

He's got his flagpin on today. Heh.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Nightwing]

Truly great viewing.

[MessiahDecoy123]

History was building up to that moment for 400 years. He's allowed to be nervous, m-kay.

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

History was building up to that moment for 400 years. He's allowed to be nervous, m-kay.

He seems pretty cool headed giving his speech.

[Ugfugly]

I was just watching the HBO mini series John Adams and was moved by Thomas Jefferson writing the Declaration of Independence. As I am watching Barack's inauguration speech I am curious to see how he feels about what he helped bring about. I am sure he is very proud of how far America has gone since his days.

[ih8nyy]

What kind of an idiot calls me to book a block of rooms right now? I'm trying to watch this and he should be doing the same. Son of a.............

[Havok83]

History was building up to that moment for 400 years. He's allowed to be nervous, m-kay.
IA. He's only human

[Ion Kenshin]

What kind of an idiot calls me to book a block of rooms right now? I'm trying to watch this and he should be doing the same. Son of a.............
The same has been happening to me...are you a conference room booker as well or hotel rooms?

[SuBe]

I was just watching the HBO mini series John Adams and was moved by Thomas Jefferson writing the Declaration of Independence. As I am watching Barack's inauguration speech I am curious to see how he feels about what he helped bring about. I am sure he is very proud of how far America has gone since his days.
Thomas Jefferson wouldn't recognize the Political Landscape that exists today, and probably would be disgusted by it.

[badgonegood]

By humility they mean "humble" right? Just checking.....

[Malice]

Thomas Jefferson wouldn't recognize the Political Landscape that exists today, and probably would be disgusted by it.

they all would

[ih8nyy]

The same has been happening to me...are you a conference room booker as well or hotel rooms?

Mostly rooms. I let the catering manager deal with the conference stuff. But I will book those and then turn them over to her for detailing,. etc...

[Ugfugly]

Thomas Jefferson wouldn't recognize the Political Landscape that exists today, and probably would be disgusted by it.

Sure he would, being a Republican, he would be disgusted with his party and the amount of control the government has, but how would he feel about the equality, the liberty that Americans now enjoy, that the founders have shed blood and tears for.

Sure there are a lot of things wrong now, but still I am sure they had no idea what a great nation they were building with not only 13 but 50 states, all united as one nation and now with a president who in his time weren't even regarded as human beings. That's an amazing thing. In that I believe Jefferson and many founding fathers would be proud.

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Great speech.

"These things are old"

[MessiahDecoy123]

I believe the founding fathers had the maturity and wisdom to recognize, all things considered, this a great moment for America and her history.

[terry78]

Game...set...match.

[Nightwing]

Another great speech.

[Ion Kenshin]

The man can sure give one hell of a speech

[redfirebird2008]

Excellent speech. Love how he stood up to the terrorists. There goes that right wing talking point (ie "he's secretly a terrorist").

[The Game]

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[Marx]

His speech was truly amazing. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[Paradoxium]

I am sure Jefferson would be proud.

He would be proud that BarryO wants to have a new Declaration of Independence (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/01/61522608/1). How thoughtful of Barry.

America is a Kleptocracy and Barrack Obama is the symbol of that.

[JP]

http://www.b3tards.com/u/ead180058c505fc363ce/fresh.gif
Sweet Jesus that is epic!!!!

[Ugfugly]

http://www.b3tards.com/u/ead180058c505fc363ce/fresh.gif


Right click. Save.

That is truly awesome.

[SuBe]

Sure he would, being a Republican, he would be disgusted with his party and the amount of control the government has, but how would he feel about the equality, the liberty that Americans now enjoy, that the founders have shed blood and tears for.

Sure there are a lot of things wrong now, but still I am sure they had no idea what a great nation they were building with not only 13 but 50 states, all united as one nation and now with a president who in his time weren't even regarded as human beings. That's an amazing thing. In that I believe Jefferson and many founding fathers would be proud.
Umm... Thomas Jefferson wasn't a Republican. Abe Lincoln was the First Republican President.

He wouldn't think that Americans HAVE Liberties, he may be happy with the fact that Slavery has ended, and that the Democratic Processes still works, but he would be ashamed by the General Ignorance of the People of this Country, he would be disgusted by the Money Hungry Bail Out wanting Corporations, and the Money Hundry Welfare wanting Individuals. He would be disgusted by the Power the Federal Government has over the Individual, and the unwillingness of that Government to relieve the People of Unfair Taxation. Did you know that the Average American works from January 1 to May 1st Just to pay his taxes for that year? Thats 120 Days a year and Growing. Did you know that the American People Revolted against Great Britian over 15 Days of work a year! He would be disgusted by the apathy people feel over the loss of Liberty by the hands of the people assigned to Protect them.

[redfirebird2008]

By the way guys, Roberts is the one who screwed up during the swearing in. He didn't say the full title. He only said "President." The other inaugurations I've been watching on YouTube all recite "President of the United States." I think it threw Obama off. It sure threw me off and I was only listening on the radio.

[SuBe]

I am sure Jefferson would be proud.

He would be proud that BarryO wants to have a new Declaration of Independence (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/01/61522608/1). How thoughtful of Barry.

America is a Kleptocracy and Barrack Obama is the symbol of that.
I heard about that, I just havn't read it yet. I can't what, those that don't think he is dangerous are highly unaware of what he COULD do.

[Marx]

What a wonderful benediction! :yay:

[Ugfugly]

Umm... Thomas Jefferson wasn't a Republican. Abe Lincoln was the First Republican President.

He wouldn't think that Americans HAVE Liberties, he may be happy with the fact that Slavery has ended, and that the Democratic Processes still works, but he would be ashamed by the General Ignorance of the People of this Country, he would be disgusted by the Money Hungry Bail Out wanting Corporations, and the Money Hundry Welfare wanting Individuals. He would be disgusted by the Power the Federal Government has over the Individual, and the unwillingness of that Government to relieve the People of Unfair Taxation. Did you know that the Average American works from January 1 to May 1st Just to pay his taxes for that year? Thats 120 Days a year and Growing. Did you know that the American People Revolted against Great Britian over 15 Days of work a year! He would be disgusted by the apathy people feel over the loss of Liberty by the hands of the people assigned to Protect them.


Excuse me, I meant being a firm believer of Republicanism, not the party but the doctrine.

[DorkyFresh]

Obama's speech gave me chills and put me on the edge of tears. i guess there's a reason why his name starts with "O"....hehe

[SuBe]

Excuse me, I meant being a firm believer of Republicanism, not the party but the doctrine.
And again, this country hasn't really been much of a Republic since the Civil War.

[Malice]

I got into the speech...then he lost me...seemed like a sermon more than a political speech.
Very on par for what he has done in the past

[Marx]

I got into the speech...then he lost me...seemed like a sermon more than a political speech.
Very on par for what he has done in the past

If only would have sounded like a sermon if he had had the 'preacher-esque' tone of the past. He did not have that tone.

[Malice]

If only would have sounded like a sermon if he had had the 'preacher-esque' tone of the past. He did not have that tone.

to me he very much did sound like a preacher...
Sounded like Huckabee....who sounds (and is) like a preacher

[ShadowBoxing]

Liked the speech. I'll have to rewatch it at home so I can pull out parts I liked and analyze it a little further.

[Marx]

to me he very much did sound like a preacher...
Sounded like Huckabee....who sounds (and is) like a preacher

I respectfully disagree. I would encourage you to look at some of his earliest speeches if you want to see him speak in a 'preacher-esque' tone. This speech was not given in that tone.

[danoyse]

I didn't see it as preacher-esque, either. I like how he was not only speaking to us, but addressing his speech to everyone watching in all countries.

[Malice]

Like all presidential speeches...he threw out something for everyone...
I will rewatch it later...kinda working...but it lost me in the middle.

[Paradyme]

By the way guys, Roberts is the one who screwed up during the swearing in. He didn't say the full title. He only said "President." The other inaugurations I've been watching on YouTube all recite "President of the United States." I think it threw Obama off. It sure threw me off and I was only listening on the radio.

He was nervous. I think he would've flubbed it either way just because of how pressuring the situation was.

Good speech though I especially like this part:

"We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."

[Ugfugly]

could not hear the speech from the women sobbing in my office. **** 'em

[hippie_hunter]

As a person who has been critical of Obama's speech making skills on account that if you hear one, you've heard them all, I've gotta say that this was a downright fantastic one.

It actually didn't sound like all of the previous Obama speeches that resorted to slogans and what not, it actually sounded like an original speech. And the original speech itself was great as well. Obama sounded like the leader we need. He sounded inspirational. He sounded as if he can deliver what he promises.

[SuBe]

He was nervous. I think he would've flubbed it either way just because of how pressuring the situation was.

Good speech though I especially like this part:

"We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."
That was pretty good.

[DorkyFresh]

i didn't think he sounded much like a preacher either. he was just being strong and confident in his words. he obviously wanted to add a hint of MLK in there, so of course he'll sound a little like he was preaching...but he didn't go overboard. imo, he did just fine.

[Marx]

He was nervous. I think he would've flubbed it either way just because of how pressuring the situation was.

Good speech though I especially like this part:

"We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."

That was a great moment in the speech! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[redfirebird2008]

"We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."

Yes, that was a strong declaration. Equally as strong against terror as Bush, yet far more eloquent at the same time.

[Nirvana]

Obama's speech was pretty good.

[badgonegood]

Roberts flipped the Oath around! Wasn't that crazy? Why would Roberts do that?

[Malice]

Roberts flipped the Oath around! Wasn't that crazy? Why would Roberts do that?

maybe he was nervous too

[Excel]

This might be a bit off, but:

"We base power on what you can build, not what you can destroy"

Great speech for a great time to be an American! Watching Dubya get on the helicopter is kinda bittersweet...bitter from his terrible presidency, but sweet because he and his wife still seem like decent people.

Now, the Obama White House begins!

:up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

[DorkyFresh]

Yes, that was a strong declaration. Equally as strong against terror as Bush, yet far more eloquent at the same time.

that one sentence was exactly what was needed after 9/11.

[Marx]

What a great picture! The Bidens and the Obamas standing on the steps of the capital waving goodbye to George and Laura Bush.

[danoyse]

When Bush got in the helicopter, people in my office were yelling "SHUT THE DOOR! GO! LEAVE!!!!!!"

[redfirebird2008]

maybe he was nervous too

I wasn't watching it. I was only listening. I read that he was reciting it from memory instead of from an index card. The cadence he used was awkward. He did a long pause after he said Obama's name, so Obama went ahead and began reciting his name. Then Roberts left out "of the United States" when talking about the office of the President. That was a major flub. Obama is a pretty big fan of history, so I'm sure that threw him off just as much as it threw me off listening to it. I've been watching YouTube's of Reagan's, Clinton's, and Bush's inaugurals recently and every single time the Chief Justice stated the full title of the President. Roberts butchered it.

[Superman]

So long Bush, Lets not do this again. :down:




"President Obama" Has a nice ring to it, Don't you think? :woot:

Well President Obama, You got the job, Now don't f*** it up.

[Marx]

When Bush got in the helicopter, people in my office were yelling "SHUT THE DOOR! GO! LEAVE!!!!!!"

I'm with Excel, it's bittersweet. I could not stand him as President, but as a person he does seem like a decent man.

[Malice]

I wasn't watching it. I was only listening. I read that he was reciting it from memory instead of from an index card. The cadence he used was awkward. He did a long pause after he said Obama's name, so Obama went ahead and began reciting his name. Then Roberts left out "of the United States" when talking about the office of the President. That was a major flub. Obama is a pretty big fan of history, so I'm sure that threw him off just as much as it threw me off listening to it. I've been watching YouTube's of Reagan's, Clinton's, and Bush's inaugurals recently and every single time the Chief Justice stated the full title of the President. Roberts butchered it.

frankly...who cares...I probably would have been drooling up there

[Marx]

I wasn't watching it. I was only listening. I read that he was reciting it from memory instead of from an index card. The cadence he used was awkward. He did a long pause after he said Obama's name, so Obama went ahead and began reciting his name. Then Roberts left out "of the United States" when talking about the office of the President. That was a major flub. Obama is a pretty big fan of history, so I'm sure that threw him off just as much as it threw me off listening to it. I've been watching YouTube's of Reagan's, Clinton's, and Bush's inaugurals recently and every single time the Chief Justice stated the full title of the President. Roberts butchered it.

It's also an interesting point to remember - Obama and Biden voted AGAINST Roberts' confirmation.

[Malice]

In all seriousness...
Lets now get to work

[Marx]

There's another interesting sight - people ice skating on the reflecting pool!

[danoyse]

I'm with Excel, it's bittersweet. I could not stand him as President, but as a person he does seem like a decent man.

I agree. My whole crowd watching at work, happy as we were, were also hoping the crowd would be respectful when he was introduced at the beginning of the ceremony.

[Marx]

On a serious note, it's nice to see Nancy Pelosi muzzled!

[Paradoxium]

Wall Street hits session lows after Obama's speech (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Wall-Street-hits-session-lows-rb-14104562.html)

[Malice]

OMG...I figured out why I didnt like him.

He is a lefty! All the conspirancies line up now!

[danoyse]

OMG...I figured out why I didnt like him.

He is a lefty! All the conspirancies line up now!

Hey, I'm a lefty. :cmad:

[Excel]

It was a bit different than W's inauguration 8 years ago...

cAp6YAPtC2c&e

[Marx]

OMG...I figured out why I didnt like him.

He is a lefty! All the conspirancies line up now!

Watch it Mal! I'm a lefty as well! :cmad:

[DorkyFresh]

OMG...I figured out why I didnt like him.

He is a lefty! All the conspirancies line up now!

yeah...i remember during the elections that one reporter made the prediction that the next president would be a lefty, because both Obama and McCain are lefties, hehe.

[danoyse]

Watch it Mal! I'm a lefty as well! :cmad:

Leftys rock. :up:

[terry78]

Wall Street hits session lows after Obama's speech (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Wall-Street-hits-session-lows-rb-14104562.html)

Reminds me of that Futurama ep. where Fry is at the stock market and the Planet Express shares go up or down depending on whether he sounds caring or more cutthroat.

[spideyboy_1111]

what time is the inauguration ball being aired? and what channels? Beyonce is suppose to be singing "At Last" by Etta James (sp?) as Obama's first dance

[Marx]

It was a bit different than W's inauguration 8 years ago...

cAp6YAPtC2c&e

Had Bush not come into office under shady circumstances, there wouldn't have been protests.

[Marx]

Leftys rock. :up:

Yes we do! :woot:

[Nirvana]

What's wrong with lefties? :csad:

[kane9321]

when is the parade gonna start?

[chesslover]

The question is who was worse,justice Roberts or Aretha Franklin?

[Malice]

I am jokin, my dad and father-in-law are lefties :)

[Marx]

The question is who was worse,justice Roberts or Aretha Franklin?

Roberts.

Aretha's only bad decision was wearing that horrendous hat! Roberts screwed up the swearing in! :oldrazz:

[Marx]

when is the parade gonna start?

I think it's 230pm.

[Christmas]

Lowry stole the show and tucked it under his arm like a free football. WAY better than Warren. That guy was like a teacher on Beavis and Butthead.

President Barack Hussein Obama. Nuff' Said.

[spideyboy_1111]

repeat:

what time is the inauguration ball being aired? and what channels? Beyonce is suppose to be singing "At Last" by Etta James (sp?) as Obama's first dance

[Marx]

Lowry stole the show and tucked it under his arm like a free football. WAY better than Warren. That guy was like a teacher on Beavis and Butthead.

President Barack Hussein Obama. Nuff' Said.

Rick Warren preaching about respect was laughable. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon13.gif

[Marx]

repeat:

what time is the inauguration ball being aired? and what channels? Beyonce is suppose to be singing "At Last" by Etta James (sp?) as Obama's first dance

That's a good question Spidey. I'm not sure.

*goes to check*

[redfirebird2008]

repeat:

what time is the inauguration ball being aired? and what channels? Beyonce is suppose to be singing "At Last" by Etta James (sp?) as Obama's first dance

That one is on the ABC network. I can't remember what time. I want to say either 7 or 8 PM EDT.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Wall Street hits session lows after Obama's speech (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Wall-Street-hits-session-lows-rb-14104562.html)

Morons. It's an Inauguration speech, not the State of the Union.

[spideyboy_1111]

That one is on the ABC network. I can't remember what time. I want to say either 7 or 8 PM EDT.

cools, ill have to DVR that when i get out of class...

[redfirebird2008]

Rick Warren preaching about respect was laughable. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon13.gif

DRIPPING in irony. I found myself smirking while he was talking about tolerance or whatever it was he was bloviating about.

Meanwhile, go check out Whitehouse.gov.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/civil_rights/


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Expand Hate Crimes Statutes: In 2004, crimes against LGBT Americans constituted the third-highest category of hate crime reported and made up more than 15 percent of such crimes. President Obama cosponsored legislation that would expand federal jurisdiction to include violent hate crimes perpetrated because of race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender identity, or physical disability. As a state senator, President Obama passed tough legislation that made hate crimes and conspiracy to commit them against the law.
Fight Workplace Discrimination: President Obama supports the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, and believes that our anti-discrimination employment laws should be expanded to include sexual orientation and gender identity. While an increasing number of employers have extended benefits to their employees' domestic partners, discrimination based on sexual orientation in the workplace occurs with no federal legal remedy. The President also sponsored legislation in the Illinois State Senate that would ban employment discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
Support Full Civil Unions and Federal Rights for LGBT Couples: President Obama supports full civil unions that give same-sex couples legal rights and privileges equal to those of married couples. Obama also believes we need to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act and enact legislation that would ensure that the 1,100+ federal legal rights and benefits currently provided on the basis of marital status are extended to same-sex couples in civil unions and other legally-recognized unions. These rights and benefits include the right to assist a loved one in times of emergency, the right to equal health insurance and other employment benefits, and property rights.
Oppose a Constitutional Ban on Same-Sex Marriage: President Obama voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2006 which would have defined marriage as between a man and a woman and prevented judicial extension of marriage-like rights to same-sex or other unmarried couples.
Repeal Don't Ask-Don't Tell: President Obama agrees with former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff John Shalikashvili and other military experts that we need to repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. The key test for military service should be patriotism, a sense of duty, and a willingness to serve. Discrimination should be prohibited. The U.S. government has spent millions of dollars replacing troops kicked out of the military because of their sexual orientation. Additionally, more than 300 language experts have been fired under this policy, including more than 50 who are fluent in Arabic. The President will work with military leaders to repeal the current policy and ensure it helps accomplish our national defense goals.
Expand Adoption Rights: President Obama believes that we must ensure adoption rights for all couples and individuals, regardless of their sexual orientation. He thinks that a child will benefit from a healthy and loving home, whether the parents are gay or not.
Promote AIDS Prevention: In the first year of his presidency, President Obama will develop and begin to implement a comprehensive national HIV/AIDS strategy that includes all federal agencies. The strategy will be designed to reduce HIV infections, increase access to care and reduce HIV-related health disparities. The President will support common sense approaches including age-appropriate sex education that includes information about contraception, combating infection within our prison population through education and contraception, and distributing contraceptives through our public health system. The President also supports lifting the federal ban on needle exchange, which could dramatically reduce rates of infection among drug users. President Obama has also been willing to confront the stigma -- too often tied to homophobia -- that continues to surround HIV/AIDS.
Empower Women to Prevent HIV/AIDS: In the United States, the percentage of women diagnosed with AIDS has quadrupled over the last 20 years. Today, women account for more than one quarter of all new HIV/AIDS diagnoses. President Obama introduced the Microbicide Development Act, which will accelerate the development of products that empower women in the battle against AIDS. Microbicides are a class of products currently under development that women apply topically to prevent transmission of HIV and other infections.
Since the LGBT community has been lambasting Obama lately (implying that he's somehow a homophobe), perhaps they should stop sweating the small stuff and realize that he is going to do more than any President has ever done to advance their cause.

[Marx]

I do not believe that the LGBT thinks he is a homophobe. I think the concern stems from his choosing of Warren for the invocation. It's great to see what have been posted on whitehouse.gov! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

Warren is nothing but a hate-mongerer.

[Ugfugly]

Expanding Hate Crimes? Ugh. This will not bode well.

[Marx]

Expanding Hate Crimes? Ugh. This will not bode well.

The expansion of the hate crimes law needs to happen. It should have been included in the original passing. :dry:

[redfirebird2008]

Expanding Hate Crimes? Ugh. This will not bode well.

Hate crimes legislation is important. There was an openly gay junior high kid who was murdered recently by one of his classmates strictly because of his sexual orientation.

[spideyboy_1111]

I do not believe that the LGBT thinks he is a homophobe. I think the concern stems from his choosing of Warren for the invocation. It's great to see what have been posted on whitehouse.gov! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

Warren is nothing but a hate-mongerer.

alot of the community, just took it as a slap in the face, which it was. But he probably would have looked worse if he "uninvited" him, so i think he made the right choice by bringing in a gay-friendly pastor too

[souvlaki]

I wont lie, I was crying like a baby through the whole ceremony. It's amazing how far we've come in just 40 years. If only Martin Luther King could have lived to see his dream realized.

[Paradoxium]

I am also sure instituting laws will spontaneously change and mold human attitudes and behavior, no problem. It has never failed ever.

[badgonegood]

Several entertainers performed in celebration of the inauguration of our new president, Barack Obama, after the election for the ABC network. "The shows were pre-taped several months ago to accommodate air time because the inauguration is an all day event", says an executive. "It's a shame that many of the performances leaked. We wanted to keep them some what of a suprise". ABC will air certain perfomances throughout it's evening lineup. The show will open with dance icon Janet Jackson, performing her classic hit Rhythm Nation, a song about equality and social justice.

qTlkvEuJ6MA

[Ugfugly]

Hate crimes legislation is important. There was an openly gay junior high kid who was murdered recently by one of his classmates strictly because of his sexual orientation.

It's a horrendous murder. Why does it need any extension beyond what it is?


legislation that made hate crimes and conspiracy to commit them against the law


So what next? Thinking hateful things becoming considered hate crimes?

How about someone, in the heat of the moment says "I'm gonna kick that ******'s ass". Is that considered a conspiracy to commit a hate crime?

There are lines drawn and being crossed here.

A murder is a murder, regardless of the circumstance.

[spideyboy_1111]

Several entertainers performed in celebration of the inauguration of our new president, Barack Obama, after the election for the ABC network. "The shows were pre-taped several months ago to accommodate air time because the inauguration is an all day event", says an executive. "It's a shame that many of the performances leaked. We wanted to keep them some what of a suprise". ABC will air certain perfomances throughout it's evening lineup. The show will open with dance icon Janet Jackson, performing her classic hit Rhythm Nation, a song about equality and social justice.

qTlkvEuJ6MA

pre-taping seems kinda less "spectacular" for some reason. esp when the performances were months ago...

[Marx]

It's a horrendous murder. Why does it need any extension beyond what it is?





So what next? Thinking hateful things becoming considered hate crimes?

How about someone, in the heat of the moment says "I'm gonna kick that ******'s ass". Is that considered a conspiracy to commit a hate crime?

There are lines drawn and being crossed here.

A murder is a murder, regardless of the circumstance.

Maybe the debate over hate crimes laws would be better served in the Gay Rights Thread...

[Franklin Richards]

Who makes the first fart joke at dinner?



Biden? Clinton? Cindy McCain?


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[spideyboy_1111]

It's a horrendous murder. Why does it need any extension beyond what it is?





So what next? Thinking hateful things becoming considered hate crimes?

How about someone, in the heat of the moment says "I'm gonna kick that ******'s ass". Is that considered a conspiracy to commit a hate crime?

There are lines drawn and being crossed here.

A murder is a murder, regardless of the circumstance.

a threat of assault, due to hate.. and by hate i mean disliking them for how there born (gender, sexuality, race, etc...) i take very seriously. a Lesbian was recently raped by 5 men in San Fransisco.. hate crimes on gays are growing for the first time in a while, thats serious stuff, and we deserve to be protected.

[The Guardian]

Congratulations to the new President of the United States Barack Obama and his family!!!:D:up:

[Marx]

Did anyone watch coverage of the inauguration on FOX News? I'm curious to know how they handled it.

[redfirebird2008]

alot of the community, just took it as a slap in the face, which it was. But he probably would have looked worse if he "uninvited" him, so i think he made the right choice by bringing in a gay-friendly pastor too

No one will remember Warren's prayer other than the fact that he gave it. Lowery's was a great prayer and he got "the last word in" so to speak, which automatically makes it more memorable but the content itself was memorable too. :yay:

[Marx]

UNOFFICIAL NUMBERS FOR TODAY'S INAUGURATION

THE NATIONAL MALL: 1.4 MILLION

PARADE ROUTE: MAXED OUT CAPACITY OF 350,000



Wow... :wow:

[Marx]

No one will remember Warren's prayer other than the fact that he gave it. Lowery's was a great prayer and he got "the last word in" so to speak, which automatically makes it more memorable but the content itself was memorable too. :yay:

Lowery's Benediction was truly amazing!

[chamber-music]

Who makes the first fart joke at dinner?



Biden? Clinton? Cindy McCain?


:thing: :doom: :thing:

Bill Clinton would be the first to make a penis joke I imagine :whatever:

[ih8nyy]

Who makes the first fart joke at dinner?



Biden? Clinton? Cindy McCain?


:thing: :doom: :thing:

It'll be Biden, right after McCain makes a joke about Hair Plugs.

[DorkyFresh]

Did anyone watch coverage of the inauguration on FOX News? I'm curious to know how they handled it.

hulu.com was streaming Fox's live coverage. there were a few times where it lagged but it was pretty straight foward. after the speech they had someone comment on it and the person said that it was a great, inspirational speech....but one thing that stuck out in my mind that the guy said (because i don't agree with it) is that he didn't think Obama said anything that will resonate throughout history.

[souvlaki]

Did anyone watch coverage of the inauguration on FOX News? I'm curious to know how they handled it.

I'm not sure about Fox News, but the Drudge Report headline was a welcome surprise:

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq137/souvlaki81/obama.jpg

CONGRATULATIONS, MR PRESIDENT!

[DorkyFresh]

btw, was i the only one who noticed that, during the classical music piece by John Williams right before the swearing in, that each of the musicians was a different race? there was a caucasian on the violin, Yo Yo Ma (Chinese) on the chelo, a black man playing a horn (don't know the instrument) and a hispanic lady on the piano...brilliant!

[Marx]

btw, was i the only one who noticed that, during the classical music piece by John Williams right before the swearing in, that each of the musicians was a different race? there was a caucasian on the violin, Yo Yo Ma (Chinese) on the chelo, a black man playing a horn (don't know the instrument) and a hispanic lady on the piano? brilliant!

Obama was also walked into the ceremony by two women and an african-american. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[souvlaki]

btw, was i the only one who noticed that, during the classical music piece by John Williams right before the swearing in, that each of the musicians was a different race? there was a caucasian on the violin, Yo Yo Ma (Chinese) on the chelo, a black man playing a horn (don't know the instrument) and a hispanic lady on the piano? brilliant!

Nice touch. I didn't notice that. I was kind of disappointed by that piece. For a John Williams composition it was pretty unmemorable.

[DorkyFresh]

yeah...the piece itself wasn't that great, but the imagery almost got me choked up.

[RAMORE]

Congratulations Mr. President, may God bless you and keep you!

[Franklin Richards]

I'm a Non-Believer. We were mentioned.


Weeee!!!!


:applaud


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Marx]

Donna Brazille took President Obama's fleece blanket off of his chair and kept it! :lmao:

[Excel]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20090120/capt.aa76333a3aac4e4eb0bead7dc47147e9.obama_inaugu ration_capt145.jpg?x=311&y=345&q=85&sig=fXbrgAijDbQrmcos_fN6DA--

Thats our first daughter ll :up:

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Nice touch. I didn't notice that. I was kind of disappointed by that piece. For a John Williams composition it was pretty unmemorable.

Yea I agree.

[Marx]

MLK III and the King family are going to be in the reviewing box with the President and Vice-President! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[redfirebird2008]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20090120/capt.aa76333a3aac4e4eb0bead7dc47147e9.obama_inaugu ration_capt145.jpg?x=311&y=345&q=85&sig=fXbrgAijDbQrmcos_fN6DA--

Thats our first daughter ll :up:

LOL at Sasha.

[Zar25]

Congratulations Mr President :)

[Paradoxium]

The market's drop continues, now from the 150s to the 200s

BTW I disturbed with this part:

"Nor is the question before us whether the market is a force for good or ill. Its power to generate wealth and expand freedom is unmatched, but this crisis has reminded us that without a watchful eye, the market can spin out of control - and that a nation cannot prosper long when it favors only the prosperous. The success of our economy has always depended not just on the size of our Gross Domestic Product, but on the reach of our prosperity; on our ability to extend opportunity to every willing heart - not out of charity, but because it is the surest route to our common good."
This is one of the most assine things I have ever heard.

So what should we do now? Punish the prosperous - take the money from them for the "common good"? Favor the unsuccessful (aka banking bailout), because they soooo obviously know how to use it more efficiently?

Without getting cliche, who watches the watchmen? Barry wants to remake the constitution on top of which. Jezzz louis... :whatever:

[Addendum]

I'm a Non-Believer. We were mentioned.


Weeee!!!!


:applaud


:thing: :doom: :thing:

high fives!

[Excel]

Somebody is hurt in the luncheon...

[Marx]

BREAKING NEWS!

SENATOR KENNEDY COLLAPSED DURING THE PRESIDENTIAL LUNCHEON!

:csad:

[Malice]

The market's drop continues, now from the 150s to the 200s

BTW I disturbed with this part:


This is one of the most assine things I have ever heard.

So what should we do now? Punish the prosperous - take the money from them for the "common good"? Favor the unsuccessful (aka banking bailout), because they soooo obviously know how to use it more efficiently?

Without getting cliche, who watches the watchmen? Barry wants to remake the constitution on top of which. Jezzz louis... :whatever:

I sit with ya paradox...

[redfirebird2008]

Dammit. Apparently Ted Kennedy has collapsed at the luncheon. :(

[Malice]

I am not a fan at all of Ted Kennedy, but I trully wish him well.
This is sad to hear.

[Excel]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20090120/capt.fd0ce685e3f6437292409c85de272158.obama_inaugu ration_capt121.jpg?x=350&y=345&q=85&sig=n1gUjOQqjX_asQOKd2PyCg--

Biden seems to playing the role of Grandpa (as as far as I kow, Obamas kids havent ever had one) as ths aint the 1st time Ive seen chilling with Obamas kids.

[MiniBond]

http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/roberts%205.jpg


^^^^
heyyy John.....way to ***** the swearing in up :o:woot:

[souvlaki]

BREAKING NEWS!

SENATOR KENNEDY COLLAPSED DURING THE PRESIDENTIAL LUNCHEON!

:csad:

I just heard this. I can't believe it.

[Marx]

BREAKING NEWS!

UPDATED!

SENATOR KENNEDY COLLAPSED DUE TO A SEIZURE THAT LAST 'SEVERAL MINUTES'.

SENATOR BYRD WAS ALSO REMOVED FROM THE LUNCHEON AFTER BEING OVERCOME WITH EMOTION BY WHAT HAPPENED TO SENATOR KENNEDY.

:csad:

[Malice]

I dont know if any of you have ever seen a seizure...
Its is really frightening.

[redfirebird2008]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20090120/capt.fd0ce685e3f6437292409c85de272158.obama_inaugu ration_capt121.jpg?x=350&y=345&q=85&sig=n1gUjOQqjX_asQOKd2PyCg--

Biden seems to playing the role of Grandpa (as as far as I kow, Obamas kids havent ever had one) as ths aint the 1st time Ive seen chilling with Obamas kids.

Yes, Michelle's father died before they got married. I remember this because Obama wrote about it in his second book. He made a promise at her dad's funeral to take care of Michelle. He wrote in his book that he realized they had already become a family even though they weren't married yet. They didn't have Malia until 6 years into their marriage. Obama's father, meanwhile, died in 1982.

[souvlaki]

BREAKING NEWS!

SENATOR KENNEDY COLLAPSED DUE TO A SEIZURE THAT LAST 'SEVERAL MINUTES'.

SENATOR BYRD WAS ALSO REMOVED FROM THE LUNCHEON AFTER BEING OVERCOME WITH EMOTION BY WHAT HAPPENED TO SENATOR KENNEDY.

:csad:

Okay. That explains why I was hearing mixed reports about whether it was Ted Kennedy or Robert Byrd that was taken out on a stretcher. This is shocking.

[Matt]

I missed the inauguration. I have a flu and I slept through it. I'll have to youtube it later :csad:

[redfirebird2008]

I dont know if any of you have ever seen a seizure...
Its is really frightening.

Yes, it is very scary. :(

[souvlaki]

Actually, MSNBC is reporting something different. Byrd was removed before Kennedy collapsed. Apparently Byrd was having trouble eating.

[Excel]

Appearently Ted Kennedys condition is very serious and John Kerrys wife was attempting to revive him.

[Marx]

Okay. That explains why I was hearing mixed reports about whether it was Ted Kennedy or Robert Byrd that was taken out on a stretcher. This is shocking.

Yeah, they both were removed for medical reasons. Senator Kerry was just now shown returning to the hall...

[Matt]

Roberts.

Aretha's only bad decision was wearing that horrendous hat! Roberts screwed up the swearing in! :oldrazz:

Obama is very lucky that Chief Justice 1000 did not knife finger him. Unless...OBAMA IS ALSO A MACHINE!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_F6_vNlthWwU/SJsdq3s9zSI/AAAAAAAAAT8/OkoNd6QrfQI/s400/terminator_obama.jpg

Great...first we have 8 years of Reptilians in office, now we have 8 years of machines. :csad: Its only a few years until Skynet launches their attacks, now that the Obaminator is at the controls of our nuke system and Chief Justice 1000 rules that the machines have not violated our civil rights by enslaving us with our own nuclear weapons :wow: :csad:

[Mister Sinister]

News breaking at the minute.

[redfirebird2008]

I missed the inauguration. I have a flu and I slept through it. I'll have to youtube it later :csad:

You're going to love watching the butchered swearing-in. Roberts messed up his lines and Obama jumped in too soon at the beginning. Both of them were nervous. Obama's speech was pretty solid.

[Marx]

This is already being discussed in the Inauguration thread.

[Matt]

Appearently Ted Kennedys condition is very serious and John Kerrys wife was attempting to revive him.

Oy...Teresa has no medical training. She should probably leave that to the proes.

Yeah, they both were removed for medical reasons. Senator Kerry was just now shown returning to the hall...

I hope they pull through. It would be a hell of an omen for Obama's political mentor to pass away on the first day of his presidency.

[Marx]

I missed the inauguration. I have a flu and I slept through it. I'll have to youtube it later :csad:

That sucks man. I hope you feel better soon! The swearing in is probably going to be shown several times throughout the day.

[Matt]

You're going to love watching the butchered swearing-in. Roberts messed up his lines and Obama jumped in too soon at the beginning. Both of them were nervous. Obama's speech was pretty solid.

They weren't nervous. Machines have no emotions. It was a glitch in the system. :csad:

[Matt]

That sucks man. I hope you feel better soon! The swearing in is probably going to be shown several times throughout the day.

Thanks :yay:

[Marx]

Wow...Kennedy was placed into the ambulance while Kerry and Dodd looked on.

I hope he makes it through!

:csad:

[redfirebird2008]

They weren't nervous. Machines have no emotions. It was a glitch in the system. :csad:

:hehe::hehe::hehe:

[Marx]

They weren't nervous. Machines have no emotions. It was a glitch in the system. :csad:

:funny:

[RachelDawes]

When I heard someone had collapsed at the luncheon I thought it was Obama and my heart skipped a beat.

I hope both Byrd and Kennedy are okay.

[Marx]

Former VP Mondale says that he was just told that Kennedy is 'doing better'.

[Darthphere]

Damn Kennedy's have to take the spotlight for everything. It should be noted that Ted Kennedy's full name is Ted John Connor Kennedy.

[redfirebird2008]

Marx, any word on Byrd yet? Does anyone even know what went wrong?

[Raiden]

I missed the inauguration too because I'm at work, but I've been reading the articles online to keep a tab on the ceremony, and it is funny to me that Chief Justice Roberts screwed up the swear-in. At least Obama was aware of that error and didn't recite the words until Roberts corrected them later. Gonna Youtube Obama's inauguration speech later since I heard good things about it.

[Hobgoblin]

Ouch. Both Kennedy and Byrd? That aint a good start for Obama. Glad to hear he immediately got up to see if he could help.

[Marx]

Marx, any word on Byrd yet? Does anyone even know what went wrong?

I haven't heard anything further. No one seems to be talking about him at all...

[amazingfantasy15]

So, now that's Obama's been sworn in all our problems our gone right! Woohoo! Hope and change! Hope and change!

[Matt]

Damn Kennedy's have to take the spotlight for everything. It should be noted that Ted Kennedy's full name is Ted John Connor Kennedy.

!!! Judgement Day is coming :csad:

[souvlaki]

I haven't heard anything further. No one seems to be talking about him at all...

Byrd was having trouble swallowing while eating desert. He left the luncheon in discomfort, but was walking.

[Paradoxium]

The Dow is now below 8000.....

[Malice]

Dow down - 307.60 (3.71%)

[Marx]

Oh lord...

Jesse Jackson is on ABC News spouting on and on about Obama.

:facepalm

[Darthphere]

The massacre in Sangala should end now with Obama and Jack Bauer on the case.

[redfirebird2008]

I missed the inauguration too because I'm at work, but I've been reading the articles online to keep a tab on the ceremony, and it is funny to me that Chief Justice Roberts screwed up the swear-in. At least Obama was aware of that error and didn't recite the words until Roberts corrected them later. Gonna Youtube Obama's inauguration speech later since I heard good things about it.

He didn't have any lines in it that were instantly "historic" so to speak, but depending on his Presidency, they could turn out to be viewed that way. His line against the terrorists was powerful but eloquent. If he catches Bin Laden, people will remember that line forever. If his policies can start to dig us out of the economic gutter, his line about choosing hope instead of fear will be remembered forever. But if he sucks as President (50/50 toss up at this point), those lines won't be as meaningful.

[ANTOINE X]

Obama is very lucky that Chief Justice 1000 did not knife finger him. Unless...OBAMA IS ALSO A MACHINE!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_F6_vNlthWwU/SJsdq3s9zSI/AAAAAAAAAT8/OkoNd6QrfQI/s400/terminator_obama.jpg

Great...first we have 8 years of Reptilians in office, now we have 8 years of machines. :csad: Its only a few years until Skynet launches their attacks, now that the Obaminator is at the controls of our nuke system and Chief Justice 1000 rules that the machines have not violated our civil rights by enslaving us with our own nuclear weapons :wow: :csad:

:huh:

[Matt]

The massacre in Sangala should end now with Obama and Jack Bauer on the case.

In a perfect world, it would be President Palmer, not President Obama being sworn in :heart:

[Marx]

The Dow is now below 8000.....

No one cares Dox...

[Darthphere]

In a perfect world, it would be President Palmer, not President Obama being sworn in :heart:

David Palmer, remember Wayne sucked ass.

No one cares Dox...

Seriously, those two need to stop. If the Dow goes up 300 points tomorrow, will they credit Obama for that? Jesus, quit it already.

[Matt]

The Dow is now below 8000.....

Dow down - 307.60 (3.71%)

These are not good signs...

He didn't have any lines in it that were instantly "historic" so to speak, but depending on his Presidency, they could turn out to be viewed that way. His line against the terrorists was powerful but eloquent. If he catches Bin Laden, people will remember that line forever. If his policies can start to dig us out of the economic gutter, his line about choosing hope instead of fear will be remembered forever. But if he sucks as President (50/50 toss up at this point), those lines won't be as meaningful.

I'd say Bin Laden is probably dead and buried somewhere in the Afghani mountains.

[souvlaki]

Seriously, those two need to stop. If the Dow goes up 300 points tomorrow, will they credit Obama for that? Jesus, quit it already.

No kidding. He was sworn in 3 hours ago. Are we blaming him for the Dow already?

[Malice]

What are you talking about, Osama drives a cab in Detroit!

[Matt]

No one cares Dox...

We should care. Its not his fault per say, but it does show a disturbing trend that many economists anticipated. Wall Street is terrified of this man. The economy will continue to collapse so long as that continues.

David Palmer, remember Wayne sucked ass.


Wayne makes Logan look like FDR.

[Darthphere]

No kidding. He was sworn in 3 hours ago. Are we blaming him for the Dow already?

Ridiculous.

[Marx]

It looks like the parade is about to get underway...

[ANTOINE X]

He didn't have any lines in it that were instantly "historic" so to speak, but depending on his Presidency, they could turn out to be viewed that way. His line against the terrorists was powerful but eloquent. If he catches Bin Laden, people will remember that line forever. If his policies can start to dig us out of the economic gutter, his line about choosing hope instead of fear will be remembered forever. But if he sucks as President (50/50 toss up at this point), those lines won't be as meaningful.


Even so How can you do worse than Bush:whatever: You re already deep in the cave all you can do right now is go up.

One thing I m worried about is that the people have way to much high expectation. I think what Obama is trying to make the people understand is that he is not the savior. He needs the peolpe to make sacrafice, and I dont know if the people are ready for that...I hope cause Usa is in deep S***.

[Darthphere]

We should care. Wall Street is terrified of this man. The economy will continue to collapse so long as that continues.

As long as what continues?:huh:

Wayne makes Logan look like FDR.

Wayne Palmer...man what can you say.

[Malice]

I am not blaming Obama....
He didnt do it..
The market is simply reacting to him.

Now if you believe that is direct blame...then fine, Obama is guilty.
If not...then its not

Simply the bearer of news.
I want the US to succeed, because I am subject to it also.

But in his benefit, the market tends to dip on new presidents

[Darthphere]

I am not blaming Obama....
He didnt do it..
The market is simply reacting to him.

Now if you believe that is direct blame...then fine, Obama is guilty.
If not...then its not

Simply the bearer of news.
I want the US to succeed, because I am subject to it also.

Again, what does the Dow have to do DIRECTLY with any President's Inauguration? It's not the place for that.

You want America to succeed, but you also for some reason as much you say you don't want Obama to fail.

[Holiday]

Again, what does the Dow have to do DIRECTLY with any President's Inauguration? It's not the place for that.

You want America to succeed, but you also for some reason as much you say you don't want Obama to fail.

Indeed. They should take it to the economy thread.

[Marx]

We should care. Its not his fault per say, but it does show a disturbing trend that many economists anticipated. Wall Street is terrified of this man. The economy will continue to collapse so long as that continues.

No, we shouldn't care. This happens with every change in office. Some are simply posting this information in an attempt to bring down the thread. It serves no purpose in this conversation, and you know it man.

[Malice]

Again, what does the Dow have to do DIRECTLY with any President's Inauguration? It's not the place for that.

You want America to succeed, but you also for some reason as much you say you don't want Obama to fail.

Hey I am human...I am a plethora of complicated contradictions

[Matt]

No, we shouldn't care. This happens with every change in office. Some are simply posting this information in an attempt to bring down the thread. It serves no purpose in this conversation, and you know it man.

We shall see.

Anyhow, I seriously hope he does not get out and walk. There are way too many people there for that.

[Darthphere]

No, we shouldn't care. This happens with every change in office. Some are simply posting this information in an attempt to bring down the thread. It serves no purpose in this conversation, and you know it man.

:up:

Hey I am human...I am a plethora of complicated contradictions

And he is machine, you have no shot. Judgment Day is upon us.

We shall see.

Anyhow, I seriously hope he does not get out and walk. There are way too many people there for that.

Yeah, those Agents should of brought bigger guns.:csad:

[The Game]

damn at that motocade