So I'm gonna start reading Twilight.....

[Lighthouse]

I'm about to read Twilight for the sake of my girlfriend and my best friend. Except for the movie, which looked wholly uninteresting to me, I know absolutely nothing about this series of books. I've heard several arguments both ways, mostly down gender lines, as to the awesomeness or suckiness of this book. So, is it worth reading, or a total waste of time?

[Motown Marvel]

im told, in sunlight, the vampires glitter. glitter vampires, man.

[Lighthouse]

im told, in sunlight, the vampires glitter. glitter vampires, man.

Oh dear......

[ComicChick]

its not that terrible.

i've only read the first one, and i've seen the movie. her mythos of the vampires, and werewolves is pretty interesting

the story centers around edward and bella obviously, but from the book i actually liked some of the characters more than them. they get a lot more development than they do on screen

[Colossal Spoons]

I hope your g/f and best friend appreciate this sacrifice :(

[AndThePickles]

Hmm...well, I'd never, ever think my boyfriend would enjoy the books, personally. They're less vampire more stereotypical romance most of the time. Highly addictive stuff that makes me mad at myself for reading it afterwards :o

[Lighthouse]

I hope your g/f and best friend appreciate this sacrifice :(

I'm a little crazy about my girlfriend, so I figured I could read a book for her, even though its 500 pages and I still have a couple Vonnegut books I haven't' read yet.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm a little crazy about my girlfriend, so I figured I could read a book for her, even though its 500 pages and I still have a couple Vonnegut books I haven't' read yet.

You're a better man than me haha

[Lighthouse]

Interestingly enough, I was in the middle of Also Sprach Zarathustra before I bought Twilight today. The transition between the two books should be....interesting.

[ComicChick]

I'm a little crazy about my girlfriend, so I figured I could read a book for her, even though its 500 pages and I still have a couple Vonnegut books I haven't' read yet.

its a quick read. it's definitely directed at a teen girl genre, and if i was 14 i'd probably be gushing about it like all the girls i coach in little league :mad: one of them is the reason i read it in the first place

but, yeah like pickles said, it's old fashioned romance-like which i didn't really mind. it's nice to see more than the 'you're hot' 'so are you' 'ok let's screw' type romances.

and secretly i bet i know a couple of chicks who wish they had boys to say the things to them that edward does [/romantic]

[ComicChick]

You're a better man than me haha

i wish we had a book/arts forum so me you and pickles could discuss Left Behind :( i've got like 3 chapters left of Glorious Appearing

[Valerie_f4]

I read them all, and was left hanging.

[AndThePickles]

i wish we had a book/arts forum so me you and pickles could discuss Left Behind :( i've got like 3 chapters left of Glorious Appearing

I still need to read the last book! That gold one.

[Colossal Spoons]

i wish we had a book/arts forum so me you and pickles could discuss Left Behind :( i've got like 3 chapters left of Glorious Appearing

Totally. We can talk about runway chase scenes......all 70 of them :D

I still need to read the last book! That gold one.

Satan's about to come out of his hole. S**t's about to get good :up:

[EdRyder]

Interestingly enough, I was in the middle of Also Sprach Zarathustra before I bought Twilight today. The transition between the two books should be....interesting.

So did you trade? She's going to put down the twighlight and read up on some zoroasterism?:woot:
Thats love right there

[Lighthouse]

Totally. We can talk about runway chase scenes......all 70 of them :D



Satan's about to come out of his hole. S**t's about to get good :up:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/Lighthouse27/south_park_satan.jpg

[Carcharodon]

I read the first book in high school, not knowing what it actually was. It wasn't horrible, but it was mediocre at best IMO. Certainly nothing that stuck in my memory.

[Lighthouse]

So did you trade? She's going to put down the Twilight and read up on some Zoroastrianism?:woot:
Thats love right there

If only. I don't think Nietzsche is up her alley. I should make her read some Lovecraft though. "If I'm gonna read about your lovey dovey vampires, you're gonna read about some Cthuhlu and Yog-Sothoth" :hehe:

[knowsbleed]

If only. I don't think Nietzsche is up her alley. I should make her read some Lovecraft though. "If I'm gonna read about your lovey dovey vampires, you're gonna read about some Cthuhlu and Yog-Sothoth" :hehe:

Cthuhlu is a bigger pimp than Edward anyday.

[Holiday]

I've never read any of the Twilight books or seen the movie but I love this franchise because of what it's doing for pale people. It's actually cool to be disturbingly white now. :oldrazz:

[percoset]

"You can't give in!"

:2face:

[Tk1055]

Try Lauell K Hamilton. Way better than twilight. My boss was reading the series and gave me a few snippets of the plot and I was able to extrapolate with a 99% accuracy of what would happen before she even got to the last few books. the Twilight series is very shallow with its plot and feels like the author just copied previous stories, much like Eragon.

[Majik1387]

Just so you know, the first 300 pages will feel like a teen lifetime movie, but once she meets the rest of the vampire family, it gets real interesting. I haven't read the other 3 yet.

[thedeadite]

My gf read all 4 books in about 2 or 3 weeks (just finishing up the 4th now).
After reading the first she dragged me to the movie.
It wasn't THAT bad, I just felt that the changing of the vampire mythos seemed more convenient for easy story telling than an interesting alternative take on the legend.

..and ComicChick, my gf straight up told me she wished guys would say things and be as romantic as Edward is. I told her I could threaten to brutally kill her at any time if she thought it would help in our romance dept, but she didn't think it would really work.

[Lucy in the sky]

Once it is read, it can't be unread.

[chamber-music]

aren't they just romance books for 14 year olds with a great big analogy for abstinence before marriage.

[taskmaster]

aren't they just romance books for 14 year olds with a great big analogy for abstinence before marriage.

That's about right.

[Sam Fisher]

If you're gonna read Twilight, I feel sorry for you.

[Connette]

I found it suspenseful..but if you hate romance stuff don't read it. It will make you sick if your not into the romance stuff. Also I think a good romance can be enjoyed at any age..if that is what you like.

[jaguarr]

I'm a little crazy about my girlfriend, so I figured I could read a book for her, even though its 500 pages and I still have a couple Vonnegut books I haven't' read yet.

You're going from Vonnegut to Twilight? :lmao: You're in for a rough transition.

Try Lauell K Hamilton. Way better than twilight. My boss was reading the series and gave me a few snippets of the plot and I was able to extrapolate with a 99% accuracy of what would happen before she even got to the last few books. the Twilight series is very shallow with its plot and feels like the author just copied previous stories, much like Eragon.

Laurell K. Hamilton's Anita Blake series is excellent. The Merry Gentry books, not so much.

jag

[The Senator]

Twilight is garbage. Absolute garbage. I haven't read it or its sequels, but I don't need to, considering I am well aware of who Stephanie Meyer is and the reasoning behind these books. They are Mormon propaganda, and all four books in that series contain religious subplots which exchange religion for vampirism. She is attempting to be the next C.S. Lewis with this series. Moreover, even if you ignore the fact that she wrote these books to subtly push her religious beliefs on young children, the plot summaries for each book are so incredibly awful I don't know why anyone would be tempted to actually read them in full.

Now, I will give the entire Twilight franchise something, and that is that the actor who plays Edward the vampire in the film series is downright adorable in vampire make-up...

[squeekness]

Twilight is garbage. Absolute garbage. I haven't read it or its sequels, but I don't need to, considering I am well aware of who Stephanie Meyer is and the reasoning behind these books. They are Mormon propaganda, and all four books in that series contain religious subplots which exchange religion for vampirism. She is attempting to be the next C.S. Lewis with this series. Moreover, even if you ignore the fact that she wrote these books to subtly push her religious beliefs on young children, the plot summaries for each book are so incredibly awful I don't know why anyone would be tempted to actually read them in full.

Now, I will give the entire Twilight franchise something, and that is that the actor who plays Edward the vampire in the film series is downright adorable in vampire make-up...I didn't get that vibe from the first two books anyhow (that's all I've read). They are a bit sappy I'll give ya that and a bit lite after all the Anne Rice and Laurell K Hamilton books I've read. There is a lot of carrying on and stubborn devotion for one's first love. I am older than that now and she seems to be a bit.. gushy.. for a girl's first crush. Everything is all big drama and I'm like, "Just get over yourselves already...!" :p

[chaseter]

I just made a new mythos about vampires and I am going to write a book! Vampires in my book can walk out in the sun, they have normal strength and speed like humans, and they don't have to drink blood! I am an author just like Stephanie!

[the_ultimate_evil]

see i seen a guy mention this in a review and i have to agree, this vampire is eternally 17 and he still goes to high school.

1 would people not notice the same kid every bloody year not get any older
2.you're going to tell me that he doesn't go to different school every year and pull this crap with a different girl, ********

[Gilpesh]

..and ComicChick, my gf straight up told me she wished guys would say things and be as romantic as Edward is. I told her I could threaten to brutally kill her at any time if she thought it would help in our romance dept, but she didn't think it would really work.

Did you remove the engine of her car.... for 'her own good'?

Are you making her stop talking to her friends?

Have you been watching her while she sleeps?

If not... you're clearly avoiding trying to be romantic like Edward.

[Valerie_f4]

Edward came out creepy than any guy.
Jacob not soo much, but you do see abusive behavior.

[chaseter]

see i seen a guy mention this in a review and i have to agree, this vampire is eternally 17 and he still goes to high school.

1 would people not notice the same kid every bloody year not get any older
2.you're going to tell me that he doesn't go to different school every year and pull this crap with a different girl, ********
And then in the movie they ultimately pull it off by having a 24 year old or however old he is play a 17 year old:whatever:

[Valerie_f4]

yeah, I agree.^^
Also how she falls in love with him within a short time span.

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, look at you men dissecting this romance series for women. I'm not hatin though, I'd do the same thing.

[Gilpesh]

Haha, look at you men dissecting this romance series for women. I'm not hatin though, I'd do the same thing.

Romance? You call that romance?

I call it a very old man taking advantage of some immature teenage girl...

[Valerie_f4]

I am a woman.

[Colossal Spoons]

Romance? You call that romance?

I call it a very old man taking advantage of some immature teenage girl...

Haha, but he looks 17!

I am a woman.

Ah ha, my apologies. This series has no chance then lol

[Valerie_f4]

What's that supposed to mean?

[Gilpesh]

Haha, but he looks 17!

He's like TEN times older than her... and with her having no personality... he should be completely bored with her... seriously.... if he was an actual vampire, by the millionth time Bella described how beautiful he was, he should have ripped out her throat and had himself a feast.


Vampire + Romance + Mary Sue - Everything that makes a vampire into a vampire besides drinking blood = s**ty story

[squeekness]

He's like TEN times older than her... and with her having no personality... he should be completely bored with her... seriously.... if he was an actual vampire, by the millionth time Bella described how beautiful he was, he should have ripped out her throat and had himself a feast.


Vampire + Romance + Mary Sue - Everything that makes a vampire into a vampire besides drinking blood = s**ty storyYes but don't forget that Edward is a bit of a mary sue himself, so perfect at everything. I've only read two of the books so far and just about everyone is bland except for Jacob, the only one with any true emotion.

[Colossal Spoons]

What's that supposed to mean?

That even women(who are no doubt expected to just eat up the mushy romance) are pointing out things that don't make sense :D

[Gilpesh]

Yes but don't forget that Edward is a bit of a Gary Stu himself, so perfect at everything. I've only read two of the books so far and just about everyone is bland except for Jacob, the only one with any true emotion.

Fixed. :o






:oldrazz:

[squeekness]

Fixed. :o






:oldrazz:True enough. :p

[JustABill]

Not saying it's not being used correctly in this case (It is, Bella and Edward are both straight of a crappy fan fiction), but I hate that the word Mary Sue and it's variants are thrown around so loosely without thinking nowadays.

[Gilpesh]

True enough. :p

Twilight is, "here's a fan fiction we published..."

http://www.cracked.com/article_16878_if-twilight-was-10-time-shorter-100-times-more-honest.html

KRISTEN STEWART goes to FORKS, WASHINGTON.
KRISTEN STEWART (V.O.)
Once upon a time, there lived an enchanting girl named Stephanie Meyer, er I mean Kristen Stewart. She was so awesome that her awesomeness couldn't be contained in Arizona, so she moved to Washington to stay with her father, who was totally lame and not cool.
BILLY BURKE
Hey honey. I'm super lame. I got you a car, but it's totally uncool because I'm totally uncool.
KRISTEN STEWART
Thanks Dad, or whatever. Time for my first day at a new school. Since every coming-of-age story requires the main character be a social outcast, I suppose I'll have to endure being the unpopular new girl until I do something that proves my worth.
KRISTEN goes to school and is INSTANTLY POPULAR AND BELOVED.
ANNA KENDRICK
Oh my God I love your hair you're so pretty will you be my new best friend?
GREGORY TYREE BOYCE
Can I take you out sometime since you're so awesome?
MICHAEL WELCH
No way you *******, I saw her first!
KRISTEN STEWART
I'd rather watch "The Messengers" than date either of you. Why don't you go ask Anna instead?
ANNA KENDRICK
Ohmigod I'm getting Kristen's rejects, that's so awesome!
KRISTEN STEWART
Wow. I guess this is what it looks like when the unpopular fat girl's pathetic daydreams get written down and published into a bestselling book. Aren't well-written characters supposed to have flaws?
ANNA KENDRICK
Flaws? Oh, well, um, I suppose you could argue that you're a little TOO perfect and amazing. But I don't think so. Let's make out.
Suddenly, ROBERT PATTINSON enters. The paleness of him and his family members reach blinding levels while the squeals in the movie theater reach deafening levels.
KRISTEN STEWART
Who's the albino Wolverine?
ANNA KENDRICK
Oh, him? That's Robert. He's universally acknowledged as the hottest boy in school but he doesn't date anyone because no girl is good enough for him.
KRISTEN STEWART
No girl is good enough for him? Man, the excuses closested homosexuals come up with these days...
KRISTEN sits next to ROBERT, who nearly vomits in his mouth and leaves school for a week. Eventually, he returns.
KRISTEN STEWART
Hey, where did you go? Because you are exceedingly mean to me, I find myself attracted to you.
ROBERT PATTINSON
Sounds like textbook daddy issues, you fat cow.
KRISTEN STEWART
(swoon)
ROBERT PATTINSON
You have a bright career as a stripper ahead of you.
ROBERT and KRISTEN continue not quite interacting with each other and having no chemistry what-so-ever.
KRISTEN STEWART
Hey, your eyes are changing color from gorgeous to ultragorgeous. What's going on?
ROBERT PATTINSON
Alright, you got me. I was acting like a jerk because I secretly totally love you.
KRISTEN STEWART
Of course! This also explains why the captain of the football team always acted like he hated Stephanie Meyer!
ROBERT PATTINSON
There's more. I want to eat you.
KRISTEN STEWART
Holy ****, really? I need to go home and do some waxing first, but...
ROBERT PATTINSON
No, I mean literally eat you. I'm a vampire.
KRISTEN STEWART
Hmm. The only way I will believe you is if you carry me up a mountain using special effects from the 70s.
He DOES.
KRISTEN STEWART
You really are a vampire! Does that mean that garlic, stakes, and sunlight kill you?
ROBERT PATTINSON
Don't be stupid. All of that lore is far too interesting for this movie. Being a vampire just means I get superpowers. It's like being Spider-Man, but sexier. Also, I sparkle in the sunlight.
KRISTEN STEWART
So that's why why your family moved here, because it's always overcast!
ROBERT PATTINSON
That's right everyone, this whole movie is a two-hour-long setup for a joke about the Pacific Northwest.
KRISTEN STEWART
So if you're immortal, how old are you anyway?
ROBERT PATTINSON
Over a hundred, but to be fair I've spent most of that time working on my hair.
The two of them GAZE into each other's eyes with UNCOMFORTABLY HUGE CLOSEUPS for 80% of the rest of the movie.

[Lighthouse]

You're going from Vonnegut to Twilight? :lmao: You're in for a rough transition.

You aren't kidding. I'm only a couple chapters in and I want to quit. It's not even the story that's getting to me, it's the writing! It feels like it was written by a 13 year old emo girl. Vonnegut this is not.

[Jolie_Desastre]

One way i would describe this series is just a light enjoyable read. However,if you take it too seriously, chances are you will not like it at all. But good luck to you man! I only know a few guys that read it and half don't admit it to other people.

The Anita Blake series is pretty interesting but I haven't gotten far. I heard after the 8th book though that it turns into page after page of porn.


Agreed on having a separate Book/Arts forum CC. That is long overdue.

[JustABill]

You aren't kidding. I'm only a couple chapters in and I want to quit. It's not even the story that's getting to me, it's the writing! It feels like it was written by a 13 year old emo girl. Vonnegut this is not.
I hate how Stephanie felt the need to describe how beautiful Edward is in EVERY frickin scene shared between him and Bella.

[Carcharodon]

You aren't kidding. I'm only a couple chapters in and I want to quit. It's not even the story that's getting to me, it's the writing! It feels like it was written by a 13 year old emo girl. Vonnegut this is not.Yeah. Even Harry Potter was written better, and the story was far more engaging.

I dunno, man. Good luck. :up:

[Drizzle]

I'm about to read Twilight for the sake of my girlfriend
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1741/whippedgp0.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1741/whippedgp0.jpg)

[CConn]

I'm not clever.Fixed.

[Lighthouse]

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1741/whippedgp0.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1741/whippedgp0.jpg)

This is not the first time that image has been posted to me.:csad:

[Drizzle]

Fixed.
You're just pissed because I said Vanilla Ice was doo-doo.:o

[CConn]

You're just pissed because I said Vanilla Ice was doo-doo.:o
No, I'm missed you touched my post.

I don't know where you've been.

In slums, probably.

[ComicChick]

Agreed on having a separate Book/Arts forum CC. That is long overdue.

suggest it in the Community Feedback!

[Drizzle]

No, I'm missed you touched my post.

I don't know where you've been.

In slums, probably.
I'll rub my balls on your posts! I will straight up teabag them! :cmad:

[CConn]

I'll rub my balls on your posts! I will straight up teabag them! :cmad:
Isn't the gay sex supposed to come after we make up?

We're still fighting.

[Lighthouse]

Isn't the gay sex supposed to come after we make up?

We're still fighting.

From what I've been told, angry sex ain't too bad either.

[Hush]

Its decent so are the others but by no means are they AMAZING. They are written in first person which is odd not like the potter books. I hope you kinda enjoy it. I liked them all.

[Lighthouse]

Yeah. Even Harry Potter was written better, and the story was far more engaging.

I dunno, man. Good luck. :up:

So far the main difference I can tell is that even though Harry Potter's characters are totally fantastic, they seem so much more real to me than Twilight's. Now, that may change as I read, but so far Twilight's characters feel very cardboard to me.

[Drizzle]

Isn't the gay sex supposed to come after we make up?
Not tonight. I have a headache.

[CConn]

From what I've been told, angry sex ain't too bad either.
Not gay sex. Haven't you seen American History X?

[SsM]

Totally. We can talk about runway chase scenes......all 70 of them :D



Satan's about to come out of his hole. S**t's about to get good :up: I haven't read a left behind book in years.

[Lighthouse]

Not gay sex. Haven't you seen American History X?

That was rape, not sex, unless you are implying that all gay sex is buttrape.

[CConn]

Are you implying I'm homophobic?

Because, while I may be racist, sexist, and HIGHLY anti-semitic, I'm not homophobic.

[CConn]

DPs for everyone!

[Lighthouse]

Are you implying I'm homophobic?

Because, while I may be racist, sexist, and HIGHLY anti-semitic, I'm not homophobic.

You did just compare angry gay sex to the buttrape in American History X, so I was just asking for clarification.:cwink:

[CConn]

You did just compare angry gay sex to the buttrape in American History X, so I was just asking for clarification.:cwink:
I'm CConn, clarification is like liquid death to me.

[Twin2]

Here I'll save you the trouble with a link to this rotten tomatoes thread on it.

Over 200 pages of pure gold (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=641462&page=1&pp=30).

[Valerie_f4]

That even women(who are no doubt expected to just eat up the mushy romance) are pointing out things that don't make sense :D

Oh, I understand you now.

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

So I'm gonna start reading Twilight.....

Certainly, you are a braver man than I.

[Lighthouse]

I usually hate reading two books at the same time, but I may have to switch between this and The Sirens of Titan over the next couple weeks.

[Colossal Spoons]

I haven't read a left behind book in years.

I need to finish this last one. The series has been a big help in restoring my faith :up:

Oh, I understand you know.

:D

[Simon Phoenix]

im told, in sunlight, the vampires glitter. glitter vampires, man.

this is just unaccpetable...

[Tk1055]

I just made a new mythos about vampires and I am going to write a book! Vampires in my book can walk out in the sun, they have normal strength and speed like humans, and they don't have to drink blood! I am an author just like Stephanie!

To be honest in the original Stokers Dracula he was able to go into the sunlight. However he was weakened . Seriously I hate it when authors say "oh they can drink animal blood...". Dracula was written as a sexual story in victorian times. Unlike today one could not simply write erotica so it had to be disguised. I grow tired of these little teen authors watering down the myth of vampires. You lose alot of the sensuality of vampires this way. Its all about seduction and damnation, eternal youth at a high cost.

I love the Anita Blake series because not only are they great dramas but they also hold fast to that angle of seduction. Granted after book 8 it becomes more porn than romance, but I think the author did a great job in taking a type of vampire similar to Dracula and put him in todays society and boom look what happens to poor Anita. For most of the series she refuses to give in to her desire for Jean Claude and Richard, But when she does she becomes an entirely different creature. She is not really human but has a Vampires hunger and can only feed using the Adour.

Don't get me started on the "glitter fab" vamps please.:whatever:


The movie looked like total trash. They washed out the film so much everyone looks like a vampire with a drug proble:csad:. I understand that the card board... I mean characters are supposed to be pale but come on, these actors (for lack of a better word) make albinos drug users look tan.

[04nbod]

In short, its a good story, the vampire characters are the most compelling
BUT
Bella is whiney, Jacob is overly aggressive to be the 'nice guy' and Stephanie Meyer is a bad, BAD writer. (be prepared for the same adjectives to be used multiple times about the same object)

To be honest in the original Stokers Dracula he was able to go into the sunlight. However he was weakened . Seriously I hate it when authors say "oh they can drink animal blood...". Dracula was written as a sexual story in victorian times. Unlike today one could not simply write erotica so it had to be disguised..

well twilight is a sexual story, its about absinence. He can't get close to bella because he might 'eat her'. It therefore follows a vampiric tradition. But Meyer was right when she said as long as they drink blood they can be vampires because the 'species' is so diverse in myth going back to the ancient world. 'Vampires' didn't start with stoker

[The Ace of Knaves]

I'm about to read Twilight for the sake of my girlfriend and my best friend. Except for the movie, which looked wholly uninteresting to me, I know absolutely nothing about this series of books. I've heard several arguments both ways, mostly down gender lines, as to the awesomeness or suckiness of this book. So, is it worth reading, or a total waste of time?

Don't do it!!!!

[Johann Krauss]

Isn't the main dude like a pedo? He's like a hundred years old and she's like 16 years old...so isn't that like a hundred year old man goin out with a 16 year old?

Who knows how many times he's done this. This dude should be seriously locked up.

[JustABill]

But he looks 17! It's much like Rose/Doctor shippers proclaims that their ''love" is natural because while The Doctor is 900 something years old and alien, he looks like a young human male. :rolleyes:

[Johann Krauss]

but she's a kid

[04nbod]

several of the werewolf characters 'imprint' on babies. Basically claiming their territory. Paedophilia is all the way through those books

and stfu bill, the doctor and rose were awesome together ;) You could say the same for Buffy and Angel, she was 16 and perhaps even 15 when they met. (Angel saw her in LA months before and claimed he loved her from that moment)

[Crook]

Isn't the main dude like a pedo? He's like a hundred years old and she's like 16 years old...so isn't that like a hundred year old man goin out with a 16 year old?

Who knows how many times he's done this. This dude should be seriously locked up.
Not really the same when said old person does not physically age. At that point it's not even comparable.

[Majik1387]

but she's a kid
So was Edward when he was turned.

[Tk1055]

well twilight is a sexual story, its about absinence. He can't get close to bella because he might 'eat her'. It therefore follows a vampiric tradition. But Meyer was right when she said as long as they drink blood they can be vampires because the 'species' is so diverse in myth going back to the ancient world. 'Vampires' didn't start with stoker


True Vampires didn't start with Stoker. However Stoker was the one who helped shape the vampire mythos to what it is today.

The whole absinence thing is what kills this for me, and dare I say she ripped off Buffy with that idea ( ie Angle wouldn't get with Buffy for basically the same reason.) It also kind of kills the idea of vampires as seducers and corupters of the soul.

I would like to thank you as this is one of the better conversations I have had on literature since I quit working at a book store.

Now here is a question that my boss has posed to me after reading this series as well as Anita Blake and The Black Dagger Brotherhood " Does sex with a vampire count as necrophellia?" My answer was yes. because technically they are dead and just reanimated bodies.

I do agree that Edward is a bit of a pedophile ( I know the argument that he looks 17 ,but If I looked 17 and was dating a 16 year old I would still be arrested.)

[Lighthouse]

So far I've gotten 100 pages in, and all I can say is that its fairly unremarkable. I thought Edward was going to be some brooding douche based on the movie trailers I've seen, but I'm glad to see that he has a sense of humor and is not. Bella is super-whiney though.

[Scissors]

I've been a fan for quite some time now. Read Twilight, New Moon and Eclipse, started on Breaking Dawn last night. I'm not mentally ill, I'm just a one-of-a-kind 15 year old because I don't like violence.
It's better then Harry Potter, worse then comics.

[Majik1387]

I've been a fan for quite some time now. Read Twilight, New Moon and Eclipse, started on Breaking Dawn last night. I'm not mentally ill, I'm just a one-of-a-kind 15 year old because I don't like violence.
It's better then Harry Potter, worse then comics.
Wrong...

[Scissors]

Wrong...

Not. Harry Potter is made of fail.

[Lighthouse]

Not. Harry Potter is made of fail.

I will totally have to disagree on that one.

[squeekness]

well twilight is a sexual story, its about absinence. He can't get close to bella because he might 'eat her'. It therefore follows a vampiric tradition. But Meyer was right when she said as long as they drink blood they can be vampires because the 'species' is so diverse in myth going back to the ancient world. 'Vampires' didn't start with stokerHere's the thing, when I read that part where Edward was so afraid of killling her and Jacob is so afraid of brusing her to death or whatever, it didn't make me think of absinence, it made me think of Anita Blake whose suitors had the same problems. Of course Anita got around that eventually, but my point is, these books are simply ripoffs of similar themes in books older than Meyer's own. There is nothing original in her stories at all. It doesn't make them bad, just a bit boring to a well read person.

[Schlosser85]

I don't find it to be well-written.

I was dragged to the movie, and gave it 2 1/2 stars. I do like Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson, but the whole "thing" doesn't interest me enough to read the books.

[Jolie_Desastre]

So far I've gotten 100 pages in, and all I can say is that its fairly unremarkable. I thought Edward was going to be some brooding douche based on the movie trailers I've seen, but I'm glad to see that he has a sense of humor and is not. Bella is super-whiney though.


You might like Midnight Sun better. If you want, quit now, and read the 12 leaked chapters on the author's site of Edward's point of view. I only read the first chapter and it's actually a lot more interesting considering he gives detail after detail about how he wants to kill her or a whole classroom with her in it for that matter.

[JustABill]

several of the werewolf characters 'imprint' on babies. Basically claiming their territory. Paedophilia is all the way through those books

and stfu bill, the doctor and rose were awesome together ;) You could say the same for Buffy and Angel, she was 16 and perhaps even 15 when they met. (Angel saw her in LA months before and claimed he loved her from that moment)

They were just not in a romantic capacity. It's weird for some time and space traveling 900 year old dude to come to Earth pick up some fresh 18 year old poon tang then fall for her. Soooo very wrong. Especially considering how his character was set up before that.

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

Not. Harry Potter is made of fail.

You like Twilight and you're bashing on Harry Potter? Oh, the delicious yuletide irony. :hehe:

[Scissors]

You might like Midnight Sun better. If you want, quit now, and read the 12 leaked chapters on the author's site of Edward's point of view. I only read the first chapter and it's actually a lot more interesting considering he gives detail after detail about how he wants to kill her or a whole classroom with her in it for that matter.

I'm so excited for this book. :hehe:

[xisaacx]

True Blood > Twlight

[SsM]

You like Twilight and you're bashing on Harry Potter? Oh, the delicious yuletide irony. :hehe: I totally have to agree with you on this.

[Johann Krauss]

What I don't get is why doesn't he go to college? why is he in highschool(because he's a pedo that's why)

[Drizzle]

True Blood > Twlight
Yes. "True Blood" has boobies, therefore it is better than "Twilight".

[Colossal Spoons]

^Haha

[Matt]

I read it for the Mrs.. It really isn't too painful. It is an easy read, has some nice moments, and isn't entirely boring (though it does drag at times).

[Majik1387]

What I don't get is why doesn't he go to college? why is he in highschool(because he's a pedo that's why)
I'm pretty sure they explain it as they go through high school, and after they graduate, they take an absence from the area they used to attend then after enough time passes they follow through the high school thing again.

[Lighthouse]

I read it for the Mrs.. It really isn't too painful. It is an easy read, has some nice moments, and isn't entirely boring (though it does drag at times).

I just got to page 200, and I would agree. I'm feeling that this book is overhyped in both directions. Its not a horrible piece of trash, but its also not some gothic, romantic masterpiece either. Its just a decent young adult novel. The parts I don't like I think are just because I'm a guy. She goes on so endlessly about how good looking Edward is, I sometimes need to take a break and roll my eyes.

[squeekness]

I just got to page 200, and I would agree. I'm feeling that this book is overhyped in both directions. Its not a horrible piece of trash, but its also not some gothic, romantic masterpiece either. Its just a decent young adult novel. The parts I don't like I think are just because I'm a guy. She goes on so endlessly about how good looking Edward is, I sometimes need to take a break and roll my eyes.I'm a girl and I did the same thing. :p

[Matt]

I just got to page 200, and I would agree. I'm feeling that this book is overhyped in both directions. Its not a horrible piece of trash, but its also not some gothic, romantic masterpiece either. Its just a decent young adult novel. The parts I don't like I think are just because I'm a guy. She goes on so endlessly about how good looking Edward is, I sometimes need to take a break and roll my eyes.

Yeah, one thing I noticed about Meyers' writing is that she uses a bit too much description. She will write a page discussing nothing more than how beautiful the Cullens are. About half way through the first book I got very good at scanning and selective reading to just breeze past those parts and get back into the book when she actually decided to focus on the plot or advancement of the characters.

[Lighthouse]

Yeah, one thing I noticed about Meyers' writing is that she uses a bit too much description. She will write a page discussing nothing more than how beautiful the Cullens are. About half way through the first book I got very good at scanning and selective reading to just breeze past those parts and get back into the book when she actually decided to focus on the plot or advancement of the characters.

Yeah, I can easily see this book being 100 pages shorter and it would probably be a better book for it too.

I don't think I'm going to read any of the other books, because it just doesn't connect to me, and really isn't meant to. Its certainly not a bad book, but this is not a gender crossing book. Unlike Harry Potter, this book is completely concentrated on the female audience. Bella, except for her almost lethal clumsiness, has almost no defining character traits. She is completely average in every way so that teenage girls reading this can immediately put themselves in her place. Then a perfect fantasy guy who is insanely good looking, brave, and most importantly, dangerous, falls totally in love with her. On top of that, other women want him, but he doesn't have interest in them at all, just her. It's the perfect teenage girl fantasy.

(Note: I'm very much generalizing when I refer to girls ideas of fantasy. I'm well aware that all women are different and not everyone thinks this way. I'm hope I'm not being offensive).

[Gilpesh]

(Note: I'm very much generalizing when I refer to girls ideas of fantasy. I'm well aware that all women are different and not everyone thinks this way. I'm hope I'm not being offensive).

Yeah, some of them are smart and don't fall for this crap.

[Matt]

Yeah, I can easily see this book being 100 pages shorter and it would probably be a better book for it too.

I don't think I'm going to read any of the other books, because it just doesn't connect to me, and really isn't meant to. Its certainly not a bad book, but this is not a gender crossing book. Unlike Harry Potter, this book is completely concentrated on the female audience. Bella, except for her almost lethal clumsiness, has almost no defining character traits. She is completely average in every way so that teenage girls reading this can immediately put themselves in her place. Then a perfect fantasy guy who is insanely good looking, brave, and most importantly, dangerous, falls totally in love with her. On top of that, other women want him, but he doesn't have interest in them at all, just her. It's the perfect teenage girl fantasy.

(Note: I'm very much generalizing when I refer to girls ideas of fantasy. I'm well aware that all women are different and not everyone thinks this way. I'm hope I'm not being offensive).

It essentially is a fantasy book for females...but I would give book two a try. I found the later books in the series to be more tolerable due to a more relatable male protagonist becoming more prominent. It is impossible for a male reader to relate to Edward, as he is essentially just the perfect fantasy guy...but the second, third, and fourth book do feature a more relatable protagonist, so its worth a shot maybe? I suppose it all depends on how much you like your girlfriend :cwink:

[Lighthouse]

I suppose it all depends on how much you like your girlfriend :cwink:

Gah! I'm going to have to make her read Lovecraft or some Edgar Rice Burrows for this.

I'm feeling a twinge of jealously reading this. Not only is my gf a fan of Twilight, but she's totally in love with Robert Pattison. Thing is, she was in love with him when he was playing Cedric Diggery in Goblet of Fire, but then when he was cast as Edward........

So, I hate Edward just a little.

[AndThePickles]

Yeah, one thing I noticed about Meyers' writing is that she uses a bit too much description. She will write a page discussing nothing more than how beautiful the Cullens are. About half way through the first book I got very good at scanning and selective reading to just breeze past those parts and get back into the book when she actually decided to focus on the plot or advancement of the characters.

Oddly, she uses too much description for some things, and then none at all for others when they could really use some filling out. It's maddening.

It's the perfect teenage girl fantasy.

(Note: I'm very much generalizing when I refer to girls ideas of fantasy. I'm well aware that all women are different and not everyone thinks this way. I'm hope I'm not being offensive).

You got it right when you said it is a teenage GIRL's idea of fantasy...not offensive at all, because most of us go through those fantasizing years. Then any mature woman will know how unrealistic and absurd "Prince Charming" truly is once she's grown up a bit :oldrazz:

[Jolie_Desastre]

You got it right when you said it is a teenage GIRL's idea of fantasy...not offensive at all, because most of us go through those fantasizing years. Then any mature woman will know how unrealistic and absurd "Prince Charming" truly is once she's grown up a bit :oldrazz:


True. When you are younger you live a fantasy world, thinking what happens in movies is indeed what goes on in a relationship.

Those fairy tales are ********! :cmad::csad:

[DarknessOfDeath]

Funny. My parents gave me new moon and I had to tell them that I'm not into 'Twilight'. Just not. So they're gonna take it back. Though I feel bad... but again, those kind of books ain't my bag. lol

[Lighthouse]

Its hard for me to criticize it though, because even as a grown man, I still hold on to some of the teenage male fantasies. Even at 26, I'm still kind of obsessed with Superman.

[AndThePickles]

Its hard for me to criticize it though, because even as a grown man, I still hold on to some of the teenage male fantasies. Even at 26, I'm still kind of obsessed with Superman.

I think that's why plenty of grown women can still get enjoyment from the books...it's kinda warm and fuzzy feeling to remember actually thinking those types of fantasies were possible.

In many ways, I regret reading the Twilight books as someone who is not only a fantasy fan, but a lover of books in general. But at the same time....TOTAL guilty pleasure :o

[Matt]

Don't feel bad Lighthouse. I'm a 27 year old who wants to be James Bond. :csad:

[Lighthouse]

Don't feel bad Lighthouse. I'm a 27 year old who wants to be James Bond. :csad:

Who doesn't?:cwink:

[Jolie_Desastre]

ATP-That's exactly how I would explain it, a guilty pleasure.

[Lighthouse]

I can't stop feeling bad for the Mike character. Sure, he's kind of a douche and a loser, but I probably identify with him the most, and theres always a character like him that totally set up to get his heart broken. I'm afraid I'm going to have nightmares where I'm with my girlfriend, when Robert Pattison busts into the room, asks her to go away with him, and she'll drop me like a bad habit.

[Geo7877]

So... the vampires sparkle when they are in sunlight? :huh: What the crap is that?

[ComicChick]

You got it right when you said it is a teenage GIRL's idea of fantasy...not offensive at all, because most of us go through those fantasizing years. Then any mature woman will know how unrealistic and absurd "Prince Charming" truly is once she's grown up a bit :oldrazz:

yeah :(

Funny. My parents gave me new moon and I had to tell them that I'm not into 'Twilight'. Just not. So they're gonna take it back. Though I feel bad... but again, those kind of books ain't my bag. lol

i actually think you would enjoy some parts of it

[JustABill]

I read the first one, then started reading another book for a while, but I just couldn't truely get into that other book, I bought New Moon and haven't read it yet either.

I can't believe I have gotten into them as a guilty pleasure when I gave all the trailers for the movie such crap.

[Matt]

So... the vampires sparkle when they are in sunlight? :huh: What the crap is that?

It is best when reading these books not to think of them so much as vampires but Greek gods and goddesses who drink blood.

[ComicChick]

i've read the first one, got the second one for christmas cuz i wasn't gonna buy it lol

the main characters kinda annoy me. bella's kinda an awkward frail clutz and i think i'm just not used to my female protagonist's being like that.

i actually think the other vamps are more interesting. the only reason i'm "motivated" to continue reading is to hopefully find out what the deal with Rosalie is

[Matt]

The payoff for the Rosalie subplot is actually one of the high points of the series, IMO.

[JustABill]

I was mad when they cut out all the connection to Alice and James in the first movie. I really like Alice.

[Johann Krauss]

I'm pretty sure they explain it as they go through high school, and after they graduate, they take an absence from the area they used to attend then after enough time passes they follow through the high school thing again.


But that's my point! why would they go back to school? I don't hear any older people talking about how they'd like to go back to school.

Hell, I'd never go back unless it was to be a teacher or something. So why is he going to highschool?

That just doesn't make sense. and a public school at that.

[ComicChick]

The payoff for the Rosalie subplot is actually one of the high points of the series, IMO.

that makes me hopeful. when i finish the book i'm currently reading, maybe i'll bust out New Moon and give it a shot

I was mad when they cut out all the connection to Alice and James in the first movie. I really like Alice.

Me too! She was my favorite character of Twilight when I read it. A friend of mine who never knew a thing about twilight saw the movie, loved it, and has now seen it at least 3 times. The 3rd time she wanted to see it, she dragged me along with her and we were discussing it on the way home. She couldn't get why i liked Alice so much, so i told her if she would read the book, then she'd know.

so i got it for her for Christmas.

[ComicChick]

But that's my point! why would they go back to school? I don't hear any older people talking about how they'd like to go back to school.

Hell, I'd never go back unless it was to be a teacher or something. So why is he going to highschool?

That just doesn't make sense. and a public school at that.

maybe it's just easy to forge paper work for high schools and public schools rather than universities and private schools? i dunno, just pulling something out of the air here.

[Majik1387]

I was mad when they cut out all the connection to Alice and James in the first movie. I really like Alice.
Me too. Alice was my fave character in the book and the movie, but the movie let me down with her.:csad:
But that's my point! why would they go back to school? I don't hear any older people talking about how they'd like to go back to school.

Hell, I'd never go back unless it was to be a teacher or something. So why is he going to highschool?

That just doesn't make sense. and a public school at that.
Eh, I guess to retain some of their humanity. Edward wont age so I guess Dr. Cullen likes his kids to remain in the age range that they'll forever look like so that no suspicions are raised.

Keep in mind I'm not an uber fan of the book or anything, but I don't think it's a highly impossible scenario to think of a reason for.

[ComicChick]

Me too. Alice was my fave character in the book and the movie, but the movie let me down with her.:csad:



its hard for me to say whether or not i was let down by the movie's portrayal of her or not cuz i felt like most of the other vamps didn't really get a chance to shine at all.

Like Emmett, when the movie starts, the scene with the animal running through the woods, i secretly hope it would lead to
emmett fighting with a bear

jasper i think has one line in the whole movie, during the baseball scene.

alice was likeable in the movie. i really liked her haircut, it was very close to how i pictured her. she looked a little older than high school, but i knew people in high school who looked older than what they were, (heck i was a freshman and ppl though i was a senior so eh). she was somewhat flighty and some of her lines were pretty 'alice-like'

but i really felt like everyone else got the shaft in the movie.

[squeekness]

that makes me hopeful. when i finish the book i'm currently reading, maybe i'll bust out New Moon and give it a shot


Not much Rosalie at all in New Moon, but the werewolf stuff was interesting. I found those sections far more entertaining than the vampire bits so its still worth a read if you liked the first book.

[[A]]

I'm about to read Twilight for the sake of my girlfriend and my best friend. Except for the movie, which looked wholly uninteresting to me, I know absolutely nothing about this series of books. I've heard several arguments both ways, mostly down gender lines, as to the awesomeness or suckiness of this book. So, is it worth reading, or a total waste of time?

Anything to keep getting.. you know.

[Lucy in the sky]

:huh:What's this guilty pleasure thing? I assume people would feel guilty about reading a bad book, but to get pleasure from doing it in a mental masochistic way?

[spida-man]

I'm about to read Twilight for the sake of my girlfriend and my best friend. Except for the movie, which looked wholly uninteresting to me, I know absolutely nothing about this series of books. I've heard several arguments both ways, mostly down gender lines, as to the awesomeness or suckiness of this book. So, is it worth reading, or a total waste of time?
I just finished reading the book 2 days ago, and it actually wasn't that bad(once u get past the first 2 chapters which are slow moving)
is there alot of romance? yes..is there action in it? yes(not mch, but it's still there) it doesn't matter if ur a guy or a girl, the book is actually pretty decent for a romance story(heck of alot better that titanic that's for sure)
and the movie wasn't 2bad either.

[Lighthouse]

Anything to keep getting.. you know.

Cookies?:huh:

[squeekness]

:huh:What's this guilty pleasure thing? I assume people would feel guilty about reading a bad book, but to get pleasure from doing it in a mental masochistic way?It's kinda like watching a car wreck, the books aren't written that great, but you can't help sorta wanting to know what's going to happen next. :p These are not Pulitzer Prize winning stories.

[AndThePickles]

But that's my point! why would they go back to school? I don't hear any older people talking about how they'd like to go back to school.

Hell, I'd never go back unless it was to be a teacher or something. So why is he going to highschool?

That just doesn't make sense. and a public school at that.

High school is easiest because he still looks 17. They switch things up every couple years...sometimes they'll go to high school, sometimes college, sometimes no school, sometimes Emmett and Rosalie and Alice and Jasper will go off by themselves as married couples. All of them admit to having enough education to be college professors. They just do it because it draws the least attention and they get bored.

:huh:What's this guilty pleasure thing? I assume people would feel guilty about reading a bad book, but to get pleasure from doing it in a mental masochistic way?

Have you seriously never had any guilty pleasures :huh: It's like chocolate...many people feel bad eating it because it's making them fat, but it tastes oh so good.

[AndThePickles]

It's kinda like watching a car wreck, the books aren't written that great, but you can't help sorta wanting to know what's going to happen next. :p These are not Pulitzer Prize winning stories.

Haha, that analogy works, too :woot:

[Mistress Kizuna]

I actually came to this series shortly after Robert Pattinson was announced to play Edward. I actually did get a few laughs out the fangirls who wanted Gaspard Ulliel for Edward. Anywhoo...

I'll be honest - virtually everyone promised me this book would be worse than it is. But I really enjoy them.

Yeah, the writing does feel very 'amateur' and yes, every couple of pages has some sentence or idea that makes me roll my eyes so hard, they would fall out of my head. But Bella's not that bad a character TBH - she's just a kid in a pretty ridiculous situation and alot of her internal monologues do come across as genuinely snarky, which I love. And Mr. Sparklepeen, I mean, Edward isn't so bad either - he's really not that wonderful but the Bella POV does a great job of making him seem all special and mysterious and pretty. I mean, the books are ridiculous, but it doesn't TRY to be mature or life-changing or deep or meaningful or even meta. They're so bad, they're good cheesy fun.

As for the movie, it's not wonderful, but it was fun. And I agree, I was mad when they cut out Alice's connections to James and didn't go over Carlisle's backstory as much as the book did. Carlisle's my favorite character.

[Jolie_Desastre]

I think they might go over Carlisle's backstory in the beginning of this second movie. That's right after Bella's party. He is also one of my favs so they better give some background!

[ComicChick]

I think they might go over Carlisle's backstory in the beginning of this second movie. That's right after Bella's party. He is also one of my favs so they better give some background!

i wouldn't mind that. i actually liked that part of the twilight book too.

[Star]

I wish Carlisle had a British accent. Considering he was born and lived in England for like 200-300 years you'd assume he'd have one...

[ComicChick]

I wish Carlisle had a British accent. Considering he was born and lived in England for like 200-300 years you'd assume he'd have one...

you know, i actually would've liked that too. even if it was just a small hint

[Majik1387]

I actually came to this series shortly after Robert Pattinson was announced to play Edward. I actually did get a few laughs out the fangirls who wanted Gaspard Ulliel for Edward. Anywhoo...
Honestly, Gaspard looks more like the Edward I pictured in my mind than Pattinson does.

[ComicChick]

i kinda thought that edward would be a lil more muscularly defined? i never found pattinson particularly attractive until i saw this movie. i thought he was cute for the most part of the film.

for some reason i kept staring at his eyes. it's rare to find someone where you can see the whites of their eyes under the pupils so prominently. does that make sense at all?

also, as for the other castings, did they fit your mental descriptions of the characters? i had qualms when i initially heard Nikki Reed was gonna be Rosalie, mostly cuz she's dark haired lady and cuz i kinda hated her character in 13. In my head Rosalie was supposed to be super stunning, like too pretty to look at or something, but i think Nikki did pretty good in the role and she looked prettier with the blonde hair than i thought she would.

The guy who played Emmett pretty much matched my mental image more than anyone else

[Lucy in the sky]

Thought about it and don't have guilty pleasures. I don't get guilty about stuff I enjoy. Though I stay away from things that would make me feel guilty and I just hate Twilight.

[Lighthouse]

I just finished the book this morning. Overall, its an okay book, but I was severely disappointed by how anti-climactic it was. The conversation between Bella and Edward in the hospital completely wore out my patience. The whole section was straight out of a soap opera, and its when I knew for certain I wouldn't be reading the next book. I honestly can't read another book with conversations like that, and where half of the text is about how utterly amazing Edward is.

[Crook]

You were warned. :o

[Lighthouse]

You were warned. :o

Well the hype in both directions is completely wrong. Its not a horrible pile of trash, and its not an amazing book on par with Harry Potter. Its just an decent teen romance story for adolescent girls. I don't regret reading it, but I don't have any desire to read any more.

[Majik1387]

i kinda thought that edward would be a lil more muscularly defined? i never found pattinson particularly attractive until i saw this movie. i thought he was cute for the most part of the film.

for some reason i kept staring at his eyes. it's rare to find someone where you can see the whites of their eyes under the pupils so prominently. does that make sense at all?

also, as for the other castings, did they fit your mental descriptions of the characters? i had qualms when i initially heard Nikki Reed was gonna be Rosalie, mostly cuz she's dark haired lady and cuz i kinda hated her character in 13. In my head Rosalie was supposed to be super stunning, like too pretty to look at or something, but i think Nikki did pretty good in the role and she looked prettier with the blonde hair than i thought she would.

The guy who played Emmett pretty much matched my mental image more than anyone else
Yeah, Rosalie hardly looked like I imagined; She looked a little too fake cosmetically. I honestly saw her looking like Pattinson's costar from HP:Goblet of Fire, Clémence Poés.

[ComicChick]

Clemence Poes? really? i didn't really think she was that pretty in GoF myself

i didn't really have a certain person in mind for playing Rosalie but I had assumed it would be a natural blonde but eh i'm not gonna complain too much on that

i really liked Alice's casting though more than i thought i would, but wow, she sure looks different with her long hair instead of the pixie like cut

[Lighthouse]

I wonder if I should go see the movie today just to complete my experience.

[Majik1387]

Clemence Poes? really? i didn't really think she was that pretty in GoF myself

i didn't really have a certain person in mind for playing Rosalie but I had assumed it would be a natural blonde but eh i'm not gonna complain too much on that

i really liked Alice's casting though more than i thought i would, but wow, she sure looks different with her long hair instead of the pixie like cut
Well I didn't mean she's exactly who I pictured, but she's sorta the closest in looks that I can think of at thee top of my head.

[Schlosser85]

The whole section was straight out of a soap opera


I think the same could be said for the entirety of the Twilight series.

And yes, Meyer's endless purple prose about how astronomically beautiful Edward is gets ridiculous.

[taskmaster]

I wonder if I should go see the movie today just to complete my experience.

If you see it you're part of the problem. See a good movie instead, Valkyrie was very good and The Curious Case of Benjamin Button looks very well done but I haven't seen it yet.

[unstoppable]

No girlfriend is worth that.

[Mistress Kizuna]

Personally I'm generally happy with the casting. Nikki Reed still hasn't really impressed me in the looks department as Rosalie but she did play the character really well. Peter Facinelli was awesome as Carlisle. I loved Kristen for Bella; she was an infinitely better choice than that Emily Browning chick virtually everyone was pushing for.

[ComicChick]

Personally I'm generally happy with the casting. Nikki Reed still hasn't really impressed me in the looks department as Rosalie but she did play the character really well. Peter Facinelli was awesome as Carlisle. I loved Kristen for Bella; she was an infinitely better choice than that Emily Browning chick virtually everyone was pushing for.

emily browning, sounds familiar but too lazy too look lol

as for kristen, i didn't mind her in the role. she played plainish bella pretty well. the awkwardness and the frailty was apparent, as well as her klutziness. some of her facial expressions and quirks weren't my thing, but i could imagine bella acting like that so it worked

[SapphirePrima]

This has to be one of the most over-rated books in the history of books. I read this and was very disappointed. I felt the whole thing was over-romanticized. I found Edward creepy not romantic. I found Bella very dull.


Harry Potter>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Twilight

[Mistress Kizuna]

emily browning, sounds familiar but too lazy too look lol

as for kristen, i didn't mind her in the role. she played plainish bella pretty well. the awkwardness and the frailty was apparent, as well as her klutziness. some of her facial expressions and quirks weren't my thing, but i could imagine bella acting like that so it worked

Emily Browning played big sister Violet in the (frankly bad) movie of A Series of Unfortunate Events.

I loved Kristen in the role - she was actually normal and realistic. I think she's got lots of untapped potential.

[Valerie_f4]

Why was A series of unfortunate events bad?

[JLBats]

This has to be one of the most over-rated books in the history of books. I read this and was very disappointed. I felt the whole thing was over-romanticized. I found Edward creepy not romantic. I found Bella very dull.


Harry Potter>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Twilight

You rule:up:

[danoyse]

I'm reading the 3rd book now. My boss is obsessed with them and has been lending them out at work. I wasn't all that impressed with Twilight, but I did enjoy New Moon a lot better, probably because I found Jacob to be a much better character than Edward.

I'm not really impressed with Bella as a character. A friend of mine referred to her relationship with Edward as almost an abusive relationship, and I agree. He never lets her decide anything on her own. She doesn't treat her friends well, she's perfectly fine with abandoning her parents - all for Edward. Even when she hooks up with Jacob, her only goal at first was to just use him so she could hear Edward's voice. I think she comes off as pretty selfish, and makes some really stupid decisions as the story goes along.

[Red Cherry Lips]

"Eclipse" is my favorite of the series. Maybe because the whole love triangle comes to a head. Then it's all crazy, fantastic, and bizarre in "Breaking Dawn.":woot:

[Valerie_f4]

I read them because the hype. Now that I read all of them. I don't like it like crazy. Just the hype.

[ComicChick]

I'm reading New Moon right now. i'm on chapter 6 I think now. They're not the greatest books I've read but I bet if I was a 13 yr old girl again I could understand why they're all so into these books.

[chaseter]

Ugh my little sister read all of the Twilight books and is now hooked on Robert Patenson or Patterson...whatever his name is. And, now she is reading every single love story vampire book on the market. I swear if she goes emo or goth I will go crazy.

[chaseter]

This has to be one of the most over-rated books in the history of books. I read this and was very disappointed. I felt the whole thing was over-romanticized. I found Edward creepy not romantic. I found Bella very dull.


Harry Potter>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Twilight
I love you:heart:

[Abstract]

My girlfriend is just about to finish the fourth book. I went to see the film with her and thought it was god awful. But, assuring me that the books were much better, I read the first chapter of Twilight. Stephanie Meyer's writing is horrible Thesaurus bashing stuff though. Really turned me off.

I understand its appeal and everything but it really isn't for me. It feels like bad fanfiction of a decent series that already exists.

[ComicChick]

My girlfriend is just about to finish the fourth book. I went to see the film with her and thought it was god awful. But, assuring me that the books were much better, I read the first chapter of Twilight. Stephanie Meyer's writing is horrible Thesaurus bashing stuff though. Really turned me off.

I understand its appeal and everything but it really isn't for me. It feels like bad fanfiction of a decent series that already exists.

i totally agree with that. there are parts of the books i've read that i liked, and other parts i didnt really care for at all. it's odd that Edward and Bella are the main characters and they are probably my least favorites.

Bella is hard for me to like. Maybe i'm just used to strong female characters, but she's very dainty and clutzy yet only really clutzy when it fits the plot sometimes. at least in the movie they showed her accident prone-ness (don't care if it's a word or not:oldrazz:) in lil nuances and falls. anyways, she was really hard for me to read because she felt like my polar opposite at times. She's willing to give up her soul for a guy she's known a semester? please. i wouldn't even contemplate a marriage with a guy i've know that long and it's like the same thing (hehe)

like i said in another post, where i am now, age, mindset and all that, i'm too cynical to get obsessed with the stories like some are. but, if i was 12 or 13 again i probably wouldve read all the books in like a month and read fanfics and all that.

but when i was 12 or 13 i was doing all that, but with x-men instead :shrugs:

[Star]

Bella's the worst main character in the history of literature.

[JustABill]

Twilight is like a universe full of Mary Sues and Marty Stus. Stephanie Meyer is the Chris Claremont of vampire novels.

[DBella]

Hmm...well, I'd never, ever think my boyfriend would enjoy the books, personally. They're less vampire more stereotypical romance most of the time. Highly addictive stuff that makes me mad at myself for reading it afterwards :o
So it's mostly a romance novel and not horror? Never been into romance novel as I find most of them to be too cheesy and full of mush. I'm willing to give it a try though, especially since the main characters are named after me and my man. What a coinkidink!

[DBella]

Bella's the worst main character in the history of literature.
:csad:

Oh... you're not talking about me. Phew!

[Gilpesh]

So it's mostly a romance novel and not horror? Never been into romance novel as I find most of them to be too cheesy and full of mush. I'm willing to give it a try though, especially since the main characters are named after me and my man. What a coinkidink!

If you can call what is in the book... 'a romance'.

[DBella]

If you can call what is in the book... 'a romance'.
What would you call it?

[Gilpesh]

What would you call it?

Whatever you call it when a guy removes the engine of the girl's car so the girl can't go anywhere without him.

[DBella]

Whatever you call it when a guy removes the engine of the girl's car so the girl can't go anywhere without him.
Seriously? That sounds creepy. FAR from a romance. Yikes!

Does anyone agree/disagree with Gilpesh?

[JustABill]

I do agree. Edward comes across very stalkerish. He removes her engine, he watches her sleep at night without her knowledge. Follows her out of town.

Seriously, the whole thing is very stalkeresque.

When I bought the book the lady at the counter was all ''This is going to teach you how to be the perfect boyfriend." and I'm like after reading it? ''So I should learn how to remove a motor, stat?"

[DBella]

I do agree. Edward comes across very stalkerish. He removes her engine, he watches her sleep at night without her knowledge. Follows her out of town.

Seriously, the whole thing is very stalkeresque.

When I bought the book the lady at the counter was all ''This is going to teach you how to be the perfect boyfriend." and I'm like after reading it? ''So I should learn how to remove a motor, stat?"
How can any girl find that to be romantic? I guess it's fine to be stalked by a 'good looking' dude, who turns out to be a vampire?

Or... maybe he's looking out for her? *shudders*

[Gilpesh]

How can any girl find that to be romantic? I guess it's fine to be stalked by a 'good looking' dude, who turns out to be a vampire?

No idea. But maybe it is because he started watching her sleep BEFORE they started going out?

Women = crazy

Or... maybe he's looking out for her? *shudders*

Especially because the 'flaw' that she is given to seem like a real character... is deadly clumsiness.

[DBella]

No idea. But maybe it is because he started watching her sleep BEFORE they started going out?
So... what attracted him to her and vice versa?
Please answer in spoiler tag, just in case there are those who hasn't read and want to but don't want to know. Thanks.

Women = crazy
Hey, I resent that sexist statement! I'm not crazy, darn it! Just you wait, I'll find you and... and... steal all your candies!! :cmad:

Especially because the 'flaw' that she is given to seem like a real character... is deadly clumsiness.
See! He IS looking out for her! Awww...

[Gilpesh]

So... what attracted him to her and vice versa?
Please answer in spoiler tag, just in case there are those who hasn't read and want to but don't want to know. Thanks.

Well, I don't have any clue how they were attracted to each other... cause I haven't read the book. :wow:

But I doubt that would give someone much more insight into a relationship that allows such abusive behavior.

See! He IS looking out for her! Awww...

I dunno. I hear it is worse than Dubya choking on a pretel bad.

Hey, I resent that sexist statement! I'm not crazy, darn it! Just you wait, I'll find you and... and... steal all your candies!! :cmad:

All my candies?!?!?!?!!??! Nooooooo!

[batboy99]

I'm about to read Twilight for the sake of my girlfriend and my best friend. Except for the movie, which looked wholly uninteresting to me, I know absolutely nothing about this series of books. I've heard several arguments both ways, mostly down gender lines, as to the awesomeness or suckiness of this book. So, is it worth reading, or a total waste of time?
Im a guy and I loved it. I dont like the glittery vampires or most of what the vampires do etc(Im too used ot Buffy vampires), but I liked the story. I HATE reading books, I never finish them, but Twilight was the first book I actually read throughout.

[ComicChick]

So... what attracted him to her and vice versa?
Please answer in spoiler tag, just in case there are those who hasn't read and want to but don't want to know. Thanks.



Edward can read everyone's minds. Everyone's but Bella's. that was the initial intrigue. but also, he's a "vegetarian" vamp, as is his family. he hungers for her blood and scent baaad in the beginning. it's like a drug to him i guess but he doesn't want to kill people so he resists

[DBella]

Well, I don't have any clue how they were attracted to each other... cause I haven't read the book. :wow:
Grrr!! You made me think that you had read it! Well... now that I know, I declare your opinion to be... moot. Hmph!

But I doubt that would give someone much more insight into a relationship that allows such abusive behavior.
How do you know he's abusive since you haven't read? :o :p
He took out the motor maybe because there's something wrong with it and he's saving her from... having a car accident.

I dunno. I hear it is worse than Dubya choking on a pretel bad.
What are you talking about? Dubya choking on a pretzel was GOLD!

All my candies?!?!?!?!!??! Nooooooo!
Yesssssssssssssss!

Im a guy and I loved it. I dont like the glittery vampires or most of what the vampires do etc(Im too used ot Buffy vampires), but I liked the story. I HATE reading books, I never finish them, but Twilight was the first book I actually read throughout.
I don't understand the term 'glittery vampire'. Oooh... BtVS go a mention!! :up:
Twilight... it's a series? How many in the series?
Edward can read everyone's minds. Everyone's but Bella's. that was the initial intrigue. but also, he's a "vegetarian" vamp, as is his family. he hungers for her blood and scent baaad in the beginning. it's like a drug to him i guess but he doesn't want to kill people so he resists
Thanks sooo much, CC! :heart:
Why did he stalk her and took the engine out of her car? How does Edward survive without drinking blood as that's a vampire's main 'diet'?

[Gilpesh]

Grrr!! You made me think that you had seen it! Well... now that I know, I declare your opinion to be... moot. Hmph!

I don't think context is going to help what I know about the book :oldrazz:

How do you know he's abusive since you haven't read? :o :p
He took out the motor maybe because there's something wrong with it and he's saving her from... having a car accident.

:hehe:

What are you talking about? Dubya choking on a pretzel was GOLD!

Yeah, but I doubt you'd want a Dubya stupid character as the main character of a book series... :oldrazz:

Yesssssssssssssss!

But but... they's mine. :csad:

[ComicChick]

How do you know he's abusive since you haven't read? :o :p
He took out the motor maybe because there's something wrong with it and he's saving her from... having a car accident.


I don't understand the term 'glittery vampire'. Oooh... BtVS go a mention!! :up:
Twilight... it's a series? How many in the series?

Thanks sooo much, CC! :heart:
Why did he stalk her and took the engine out of her car? How does Edward survive without drinking blood as that's a vampire's main 'diet'?

glittery vamps
meyer makes up her own mythos for vamps somewhat. instead of the stereotype of them not being able to walk out in the sun, her spin is that they choose not too because the sunlight reflects off their skin giving them a shimmery/glittery sheen.


car engine steal
i don't really remember him stealing her engine if it happened in the first book lol
but, she does have a super old (i prefer vintage) truck that's a clunker. i think it's a 50's model or somewhere around there. so it could've been taken out because he wants her to stay put or because the truck's a death trap.
i do remember him pulling a dent out for her


there's 4 books in the series. and possible a 5th

[Dr. Watson]

glittery vamps
meyer makes up her own mythos for vamps somewhat. instead of the stereotype of them not being able to walk out in the sun, her spin is that they choose not too because the sunlight reflects off their skin giving them a shimmery/glittery sheen.



No, the vampires DAZZLE!!! :grin:

I didn't like Twilight at all, but I never really took Edward's behaviour as abusive. In real life if a random guy were watching you sleep, etc. of course that would be bad. But in the context of the book I think it works because its alluded to from about the beginning that Edward thinks Bella will get in trouble (which she eventually does of course). It's like how Angel would follow Buffy occasionally when he knew something was up. The supernatural element plus the fact that the heroine will eventually get in some sort of trouble allows the male lead to be a little "stalkerish" within these narratives.

However, Twilight is another prime example of why parents need to be tuned in with what kids are reading. If I had a kid I would have no problem allowing them to read the books (except that I would worry about thier taste if they liked them :(), but I would want them to understand that everything in the book, including the romance, is pure fantasy.

[DBella]

I don't think context is going to help what I know about the book :oldrazz:
Whatever, you fraud! :mad:
So how did you know 'so much' about it? Did you see the movie?

Yeah, but I doubt you'd want a Dubya stupid character as the main character of a book series... :oldrazz:
Your Dubya-hate is disgusting and unbelievable! I miss him. I miss how he made me laugh so hard that I, too, almost choke on my food, pretzel including. Also, he's not idiotic he's... intellectually challenged. Be PC, please.
*wink*

But but... they's mine. :csad:
Not after I have possession of them.

glittery vamps
meyer makes up her own mythos for vamps somewhat. instead of the stereotype of them not being able to walk out in the sun, her spin is that they choose not too because the sunlight reflects off their skin giving them a shimmery/glittery sheen.


Ahh... they don't like the glittery look as they're afraid people might mistake them for a ... disco ball? Hehe!

car engine steal
i don't really remember him stealing her engine if it happened in the first book lol
but, she does have a super old (i prefer vintage) truck that's a clunker. i think it's a 50's model or somewhere around there. so it could've been taken out because he wants her to stay put or because the truck's a death trap.
i do remember him pulling a dent out for her

See! I suspected right! He IS looking out for her! It doesn't take a vampire to know that clunkers can be dangerous. Bella doesn't seem to smart so... thank the demons for Edward!

there's 4 books in the series. and possible a 5th
Did you read the books?

No, the vampires DAZZLE!!!

I didn't like Twilight at all, but I never really took Edward's behaviour as abusive. In real life if a random guy were watching you sleep, etc. of course that would be bad. But in the context of the book I think it works because its alluded to from about the beginning that Edward thinks Bella will get in trouble (which she eventually does of course). It's like how Angel would follow Buffy occasionally when he knew something was up. The supernatural element plus the fact that the heroine will eventually get in some sort of trouble allows the male lead to be a little "stalkerish" within these narratives.
Well... Gilpesh 'diagnosis' was off coz he didn't read the book. :o (Hi! Gilpesh! :D)

What makes Edward think Bella will get in trouble? Because of her clunker or because he can't read her mind? Angel followed Buffy around because he knows Buffy's the slayer and if I remember correctly, he knows about the Master and wants Buffy to be careful and he's not like the other vampires so he wants to fight on her side.

I asked about the 'vegetarian' aspect. How does a vampire live without blood when that is their main diet? Does he survive on tomato juice?

However, Twilight is another prime example of why parents need to be tuned in with what kids are reading. If I had a kid I would have no problem allowing them to read the books (except that I would worry about thier taste if they liked them ), but I would want them to understand that everything in the book, including the romance, is pure fantasy.
:up:
Did you read the books and watch the film?

[Gilpesh]

Whatever, you fraud! :mad:
So how did you know 'so much' about it? Did you see the movie?

A hilarious review of the entire series.

Your Dubya-hate is disgusting and unbelievable! I miss him. I miss how he made me laugh so hard that I, too, almost choke on my food, pretzel including. Also, he's not idiotic he's... intellectually challenged. Be PC, please.
*wink*

:stunned:
haha

Not after I have possession of them.

Damn that 9/10th of the law ownership clause! :o

Well... Gilpesh 'diagnosis' was off coz he didn't read the book. :o (Hi! Gilpesh! :D)

Hi Bella!

[DBella]

A hilarious review of the entire series.
So... in short, your review/opinion is based on other people's review/opinion. I didn't expect you to be a sheep, Gilpesh. I am so utterly disappointed I feel like looking for a vampire to suck all the blood out of me. *sad*

:stunned:
haha
You know you love him too, secretly.

Damn that 9/10th of the law ownership clause! :o
I like it. As long as it is advantageous to me.

Hi Bella!
The lounge is THAT way! :mad:
;)

[danoyse]

So it's mostly a romance novel and not horror? Never been into romance novel as I find most of them to be too cheesy and full of mush. I'm willing to give it a try though, especially since the main characters are named after me and my man. What a coinkidink!

They are not horror at all. I felt like the first book was basically Bella and Edward staring lovingly at each other. Nothing else really happened. Stephanie Meyer wrote in some *scary* stuff, but it's not really scary when you've read better vampire stories.

I do find Edward creepy and stalker-ish, and I think Bella is way too apologetic to him for everything that happens in the books. It's this whole Edward-is-perfect-and-I'm-not-worthy thing that just goes on and on and becomes somewhat pathetic after awhile.

I don't hate the books (I'm reading the 4th one now), but they are definitely not my favorite. I can't wait to read Salem's Lot again when I finally finish the series. Now those were vampires!

[danoyse]

car engine steal
i don't really remember him stealing her engine if it happened in the first book lol
but, she does have a super old (i prefer vintage) truck that's a clunker. i think it's a 50's model or somewhere around there. so it could've been taken out because he wants her to stay put or because the truck's a death trap.
i do remember him pulling a dent out for her




No, the reason he takes the engine is:

So she won't sneak off and visit Jacob. He thought it was too dangerous for her to be around the werewolves, even though she was fine with Jacob. Alice practically holds her hostage having sleepovers so she wouldn't go off to La Push either.

[SapphirePrima]

Twilight is required reading in one of the classes at my University. WTF!?!??!?!?! :eek: :mad:

[ComicChick]

No, the reason he takes the engine is:

So she won't sneak off and visit Jacob. He thought it was too dangerous for her to be around the werewolves, even though she was fine with Jacob. Alice practically holds her hostage having sleepovers so she wouldn't go off to La Push either.

i must not be that far into it yet, but thanks for clearing it up

[Dr. Watson]

Well... Gilpesh 'diagnosis' was off coz he didn't read the book. :o (Hi! Gilpesh! :D)

What makes Edward think Bella will get in trouble? Because of her clunker or because he can't read her mind? Angel followed Buffy around because he knows Buffy's the slayer and if I remember correctly, he knows about the Master and wants Buffy to be careful and he's not like the other vampires so he wants to fight on her side.


I only read the first book, but I think its implied that one of Edward's siblings can see into the future and has predicted that Bella will get in trouble. I also think Edward just had a sixth sense about her.

I asked about the 'vegetarian' aspect. How does a vampire live without blood when that is their main diet? Does he survive on tomato juice?

They hunt live animals as a replacement. Edward's favourite is Mountain lion. There is a very clumsy explanation that the vampires like to eat the animal they are most like or something like that


:up:
Did you read the books and watch the film?

I've only read Twilight, and I have yet to see the film. I'll probably rent it at some point. The first one did not nearly impress me enough to go on with the series. I hate romance novels, and this one wasn't even "steamy" or anything. Danyose summed it up pretty well when she said that the book is mostly Edward and Bella staring at each other going "You're pretty" "No you are" "No you're prettier" and so on.

The only good thing I got out of the books was that it motivated me to bust out my Buffy DVD's. Spike>>>>>>>>>>>Edward x 1000.

[danoyse]

I only read the first book, but I think its implied that one of Edward's siblings can see into the future and has predicted that Bella will get in trouble. I also think Edward just had a sixth sense about her.

Edward's sister Alice is able to see into the future. That comes into play a lot in the later books. It even enables Alice to fight other vampires because she knows what they are going to do even seconds before it happens.

His brother Jasper also has a psychic power. He can control the tempers of others that he stands near creates a calming affect. Very helpful when people are about to start fighting.

Edward himself is psychic, but he cannot read Bella's mind. The Volturi (a *royal* vampire clan in Italy who first appear in the 2nd book) also have powers, but none of them work on Bella.

I read that one of Meyer's influences on the series was the X-Men animated series. I'm sure that's where she got the idea of giving vampires special powers from.

I've only read Twilight, and I have yet to see the film. I'll probably rent it at some point. The first one did not nearly impress me enough to go on with the series. I hate romance novels, and this one wasn't even "steamy" or anything. Danyose summed it up pretty well when she said that the book is mostly Edward and Bella staring at each other going "You're pretty" "No you are" "No you're prettier" and so on.

The only good thing I got out of the books was that it motivated me to bust out my Buffy DVD's. Spike>>>>>>>>>>>Edward x 1000.

I haven't seen the movie yet either. It's on my Netflix queue. The second book was much better - Jacob has a much bigger part and I think his relationship with Bella is much better than the whole Edward/Bella thing. Plus they introduce a lot more characters.

I think Carlisle is the most interesting vampire. I would love to see a spin-off book about his whole history.

[ComicChick]

i like Carlisle too :up:
him and alice were my faves and i thought they were much more interesting

[danoyse]

One of my biggest problems with the books is that she can't write an action sequence. The idea in the 3rd book that there's an evil vampire rampaging Seattle creating an army of hungry newborn vampires all set on invading Forks sounds good. Vampires and werewolves joining forces and training to fight together against this invading army sound even better. Great setup for what could be a great battle sequence.

But how does it turn out? The entire scene takes place in a tent miles away with Bella overhearing a conversation between Edward and Jacob about who loves her more. We find out the fighting is going fine thanks to both of their psychic abilities. :whatever:

There is a final showdown between Victoria and Edward, but as for the rest of it, we just have to take their word for it that the newborns were easy to kill off. Very disappointing.

[Jolie_Desastre]

If the movie happens we are definitely going to see it. Same with Twilight. She was unconscious through the whole thing, but in the movie they showed it. Sort of.

[chaseter]

HAHA King calls Stephanie garbage and JK good:

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/stephen-king-on-twilight-author-stephenie-meyer-can-t-write-worth-a-darn/18406?nc

[Majik1387]

Hahaha, at least he's given a good reason.

[danoyse]

I agree with him. The story has so much potential, but she's just not a great writer. I'm 200 pages into the 4th book and it's downright painful to read.

[chaseter]

Harry Potter > Twilight any day:o

[Majik1387]

I agree with him. The story has so much potential, but she's just not a great writer. I'm 200 pages into the 4th book and it's downright painful to read.
Yeah, I agree, that was my main complaint with the first book, and probably the reason I haven't started on the other ones yet.
Harry Potter > Twilight any day:o
Well, duh, of course.:o

[danoyse]

I wasn't very impressed with the first book, but I thought the 2nd book was much better. The third book was ok, but it's where I thought Edward became downright creepy. The 4th book is just all over the place, and the story makes no sense at all.

I can't wait to start reading Harry Potter again.

[Majik1387]

I remember seeing a pre-order thing at Barnes and Nobles for the HP Encyclopedia thing, and I was sorta surprised by it because I'm pretty sure JK is nowhere near done with it.

[chaseter]

Who knows...it might release this summer with HBP movie and I wouldn't be surprised if that happens and if that does happen then I will slap WB for lying to us:o

[danoyse]

I got the rest of the UK versions of the HP books when I was in London last year, and those are the ones I'm going to read this time. They're basically the same, except the first book has the original title and a lot of the wording is different.

[LifeisNoCheese]

HP FTW!

So I didn't read through all of this thread, but I have a question. I read Twilight beacause some (FAILURE) friends told me it's like HP, and I wanted to see what all the hype was about. I really didn't enjoy it until the baseball game, I'm just not into the romance thing. So I'm debating on whether I should buy new moon at Walmart for $8, and I thought I might get some of you opinions on this potential purchase, based on my experience with the first book.

[AndThePickles]

HP FTW!

So I didn't read through all of this thread, but I have a question. I read Twilight beacause some (FAILURE) friends told me it's like HP, and I wanted to see what all the hype was about. I really didn't enjoy it until the baseball game, I'm just not into the romance thing. So I'm debating on whether I should buy new moon at Walmart for $8, and I thought I might get some of you opinions on this potential purchase, based on my experience with the first book.

If you didn't like the first one, you won't like the rest. They are all very romance-centric/mushy.

[ross2287]

I agree with him. The story has so much potential, but she's just not a great writer. I'm 200 pages into the 4th book and it's downright painful to read.

Danoyse, does the fourth book seem completely pointless to you too? I'm on page 471 and everything that has transpired could have been wrapped up in the third book, for the most part.

[batboy99]

I heard Breaking Dawn is terrible. Some of my friends are big twilight fans so they told me alot of key points from all books. The whole imprinting on the baby makes me sick to my stomach.

[danoyse]

Danoyse, does the fourth book seem completely pointless to you too? I'm on page 471 and everything that has transpired could have been wrapped up in the third book, for the most part.

It's awful. I finished it last weekend, and it was absolute dreck. It was at least 300 pages too long (and that's being kind), the final *showdown* was completely predictable and downright boring, and everything wrapped up way too easily for me.

I don't want to go to far into the ending, since you're still reading it, but I thought the whole pregnancy thing wasted the book. I would have rather Meyer had let Bella go through with her decision to go to college for a year and stay human awhile longer so she could actually struggle with the decision to become a vampire. And Jacob's role in the whole thing is downright creepy.

I was happy to finally be done with the whole series. I'm 200 pages into The Road right now, and I also just started reading Watchmen. So much better. :up:

[Sam Fisher]

Kinda ironic that the author says she's creeped out by vampire movies yet she wrote a series of books about vampires.



{And yes, I'm mormon, so I know all about the whole "not watching R rated movies" thing}