View Full Version : WATCHMEN! THE MUSIC VIDEO!-Ugh...ok...more on the MCR story we heard about earlier...
The Guard
02-02-2009, 09:14 PM
But that's exactly the point. The whole idea of punk music, in some aspects came about because teenagers were fed-up with overproduced, complicated music that kind of dominated the mid to late 70's.
Damn that complex, intelligent, artsy crap. :).
Punk, pure rock n roll, was something anyone could play, but weren't. It was music that these people wanted to hear, and you didn't have to have "immense talent". Johnny Rotten couldn't sing, neither could Joey Ramone, or Joe Strummer or Darby Crash or Ian MacKaye or Henry Rollins. You didn't need talent. You just needed to play. The response to something like "Well, Johnny Rotton doesn't have the tonal qualities and a clearer voice like Gerard Way does" is "Who cares?"
Fair enough.
The attitude of the Sex Pistols is the universal attitude of the punk genre. MCR has stated that they were trying to get that sound like The Sex Pistols had. They may have achieved that sound, but there's nothing to back it up. There's no attitude or aggression behind it. It's just..bland.
It's difficult for me to listen to anything they have and call it "bland"...
"**** you" from a band was never "clever". It was never supposed to be "clever". It was a simple mindset, to do things their way, outside of the mainstream. They can't sing? Big deal. They can't play? who cares? What punk was, was never mainstream like MCR. It wasn't friendly. It wasn't overproduced and it didn't try to be anything it wasn't. (Unless it's some crap band like The Casualties, who try too hard. That's when it stops being "clever" if you want to call it that. It becomes silly. But that can be said of almost anything.)
So essentially, "punk" is people who don't have any discernable talent, playing music that is not discernably clever, in a manner that is nothing new or insightful.
Fair enough.
Listen to the first album by The Who "...Sings My Generation" and listen to some early punk albums. It's sloppy and aggressive and raw. It's full of power and energy. It's something pure and knows what it is, and doesn't try to be anything different.
The Who I'll give you, there's definitely some power there. Where's the power from the Sex Pistols?
Motown Marvel
02-02-2009, 09:36 PM
my music ego is showing here, but can we stop talking about the sex pistols like they're the definition of punk? good band? sure. but lets be honest, they were as produced as any modern boy band. Malcolm McLaren saw what was going on in new york with bands like the NY Dolls and the ramones and wanted to copy it, not only the sound but more importantly the look. and he went back to london and cobbled together the sex pistols and copied the sound in an attempt to jump start a fashion trend, which he successfully did. but if we need a band to define punk, lets talk about the godfathers of punk, the originators, The Stooges.
CaptainGenerica
02-02-2009, 09:57 PM
Side note. What does "mainstream" mean to people?
I never personally considered My Chemical Romance to be "mainstream". (If anything their participation in this movie will make them mainstream, not the other way around.) Emo has always been kind of a niche market. Mainstream to me is Justin Timberlake. It's Britney Spears. It's Michael Jackson, or Bruce Springsteen. Cher, Madonna, the Rolling Stones, the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Queen. Even Bob Dylan is more mainstream than My Chemical Romance. These are pop culture icons that everyone knows; to me that's what mainstream is. Is there a different definition that I'm not aware of?
MCR aren't revolutionary by any stretch. And they're not indie. But how can they be mainstream if they're really not all that famous or popular? (Perhaps they're more popular than I think they are..?)
CaptainGenerica
02-02-2009, 09:58 PM
my music ego is showing here, but can we stop talking about the sex pistols like they're the definition of punk? good band? sure. but lets be honest, they were as produced as any modern boy band. Malcolm McLaren saw what was going on in new york with bands like the NY Dolls and the ramones and wanted to copy it, not only the sound but more importantly the look. and he went back to london and cobbled together the sex pistols and copied the sound in an attempt to jump start a fashion trend, which he successfully did. but if we need a band to define punk, lets talk about the godfathers of punk, the originators, The Stooges.
Lol, good point. I think I might have started the discussion. Sorry about that.
The Battousai
02-02-2009, 10:07 PM
(Perhaps they're more popular than I think they are..?)
Bingo :cwink:
Motown Marvel
02-02-2009, 10:10 PM
Side note. What does "mainstream" mean to people?
I never personally considered My Chemical Romance to be "mainstream". (If anything their participation in this movie will make them mainstream, not the other way around.) Emo has always been kind of a niche market. Mainstream to me is Justin Timberlake. It's Britney Spears. It's Michael Jackson, or Bruce Springsteen. Cher, Madonna, the Rolling Stones, the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Queen. Even Bob Dylan is more mainstream than My Chemical Romance. These are pop culture icons that everyone knows; to me that's what mainstream is. Is there a different definition that I'm not aware of?
MCR aren't revolutionary by any stretch. And they're not indie. But how can they be mainstream if they're really not all that famous or popular? (Perhaps they're more popular than I think they are..?)
MCR gets regular air play on the nations "alt. rock" stations. their videos are on MTV regularly. they sell millions of albums. their concerts sell out stadiums. they're quite a famous and well known band. this makes them mainstream.
and for the record, theres nothing wrong with being in the main stream. its just, 99% of bands in the main stream now a days (MCR included) f**king blow. this is because the telecommunications act (of 1996? i forget) deregulated radio, allowing anyone to own as much airspace as they can afford, which took all the diversity and competition out of radio. so now, every single radio station in america is essentially owned by 2 or 3 companies. this is not good. oh s#!t, im ranting....
CrimsonMist
02-02-2009, 10:52 PM
Damn that complex, intelligent, artsy crap. :).
lol, at the time it was problematic. I mean, where was "rock n roll", ya know? It still is, to an extent today. But with the internet, you can't really ***** as much. That and the music business is just silly now.
Don't get me wrong though. I mean, i enjoy Yes very much. But i also enjoy The Damned, T. Rex, The Stooges and loads of other different kinds of music. I'm just explaining that specific genre. :yay:
It's difficult for me to listen to anything they have and call it "bland"...
And i wouldn't doubt it. I was referring to this cover specifically. It's bland and generic. For more examples, check out Machine Head. I saw them open for Metallica on Sunday(feb. 1st) in between a band called The Sword and Metallica. Generic, bland "metal". Just like this cover is bland, generic "punk".
So essentially, "punk" is people who don't have any discernable talent, playing music that is not discernably clever, in a manner that is nothing new or insightful.
Yes and no. Punk is just rock n roll, basically. The Velvet Underground, The Stooges, MC5, The Sonics, The Damned, The Clash, The Sex Pistols, Generation X, Minor Threat. It's all insightful if you care to listen to it. It's not trying to be "new", because rock n roll is a constant. If you(in general terms) wanna go listen to Coldplay and all that pretentious crap, go right ahead. Gimme "Fun House" by The Stooges any day. It stays new by staying the same, if that makes any sense.
The Who I'll give you, there's definitely some power there. Where's the power from the Sex Pistols?[/QUOTE]
Listen to "Nevermind The Bullocks" man.(youtube it). The power is there. As Motown Marvel said, the Pistols were thrown together as any modern day boyband, but in retrospect i don't think any of the members actually gave a crap. They were beyond Malcom anyway. But i still believe Public Image Ltd, Johnny Rotten's band after the pistols was far more entertaining and interesting. It also showed that Johnny Rotten could actually sing. Check them out. Or go listen to The Damned(the best of the english punk bands, imo), or Slaughter & The Dogs, The Stooges, the Ramones...the power is there man. If you can't see that, i dont know what to tell you.
Oh and Motown, i kind of have to disagree with you about the Stooges being the originators. It's The Velvet Underground!:woot:
I should also point out that, yea, despite listening to YES, that band is more exciting and interesting than Coldplay ever was and will be. So there.
CrimsonMist
02-02-2009, 10:59 PM
MCR gets regular air play on the nations "alt. rock" stations. their videos are on MTV regularly. they sell millions of albums. their concerts sell out stadiums. they're quite a famous and well known band. this makes them mainstream.
and for the record, theres nothing wrong with being in the main stream. its just, 99% of bands in the main stream now a days (MCR included) f**king blow. this is because the telecommunications act (of 1996? i forget) deregulated radio, allowing anyone to own as much airspace as they can afford, which took all the diversity and competition out of radio. so now, every single radio station in america is essentially owned by 2 or 3 companies. this is not good. oh s#!t, im ranting....
This is true, as well. Radio sucks now. My dad told me the first time he ever heard "God Save The Queen" on the radio. The DJ was actually so disgusted by it that he said that he'd only play it once and never again. But back then, radio was the shizzat. You could hear The Sex Pistols followed by The Easybeats, and just have a weird program and you'd hear album tracks and not just singles. That's why radio sucks now. It's the same 5 songs from the same 6 or 7 bands every hour, on whatever station you listen to. Satellite Radio is much more interesting, though. You get to hear the obscure of the obscure. And it's great.
Motown Marvel
02-02-2009, 11:07 PM
Oh and Motown, i kind of have to disagree with you about the Stooges being the originators. It all began with The Velvet Underground!:woot:
now, dont get me wrong, the velvet underground are one of my all time favorite bands. like, they were f**king IT, man, you know? and they certainly did play into what eventually became punk, but i would hardly define them as punk. and the stooges obviously took some influence from them considering john cale produced their first album. a lot of other bands came before the stooges that played into what became punk eventually, the sonics for instance. but it was the stooges that really made punk into a GENRE, you know? and it was also in a review of the stooges music that the term punk was first used to describe a style of music.
CrimsonMist
02-02-2009, 11:21 PM
now, dont get me wrong, the velvet underground are one of my all time favorite bands. like, they were f**king IT, man, you know? and they certainly did play into what eventually became punk, but i would hardly define them as punk. and the stooges obviously took some influence from them considering john cale produced their first album. a lot of other bands came before the stooges that played into what became punk eventually, the sonics for instance. but it was the stooges that really made punk into a GENRE, you know? and it was also in a review of the stooges music that the term punk was first used to describe a style of music.
I dont know man. White Light/White Heat is IT, for me. That album, if anything(though you could argue that "The VU & Nico is the first, is the first punk album, truly to me. Besides, both bands are usually called "proto-punk" or whatever. I suppose you could say that White Light created a genre with no name. The Stooges gave it everything else: the sound, the name, and more of the attitude, you name it. To this day, there is still nothing i've heard that is more awesome than the sound of jingle bells in a song about sex.
Hell, you and i are both fans. Who cares?:woot:
Motown Marvel
02-02-2009, 11:45 PM
ha ha, like i said man, i aint diminishing the achievements and importance of the velvets. thos cats expanded and explored the horizons of rock and roll more than anyone else. and many of their songs were definitely treading the grounds of early punk. im just saying, in terms of a punk band, making punk music, and establishing the punk genre, to me it was all the stooges. but you know, these sorts of things, its always impossible to define them as fact since it's all inspired by the past while inspiring the future, where do these things begin and end?
is this the right place now to brag about the time i was on stage with the stooges, arm around iggy, singing 'no fun' into the microphone with him? or about hanging out with the band enjoying conversation with ron asheton? aww, poor ron. RIP.
LifeisNoCheese
02-03-2009, 03:33 PM
Side note. What does "mainstream" mean to people?
I never personally considered My Chemical Romance to be "mainstream". (If anything their participation in this movie will make them mainstream, not the other way around.) Emo has always been kind of a niche market. Mainstream to me is Justin Timberlake. It's Britney Spears. It's Michael Jackson, or Bruce Springsteen. Cher, Madonna, the Rolling Stones, the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Queen. Even Bob Dylan is more mainstream than My Chemical Romance. These are pop culture icons that everyone knows; to me that's what mainstream is. Is there a different definition that I'm not aware of?
MCR aren't revolutionary by any stretch. And they're not indie. But how can they be mainstream if they're really not all that famous or popular? (Perhaps they're more popular than I think they are..?)
Like Motown said, they're mainstream in the alt. rock genre. Your grandma might not know them, or your dad, or even your sibling. They don't play MCR on the pop stations, and I've never heard Metro Station on the alt. rock stations.
MCR gets regular air play on the nations "alt. rock" stations. their videos are on MTV regularly. they sell millions of albums. their concerts sell out stadiums. they're quite a famous and well known band. this makes them mainstream.
Honestly, the last time I saw a music video of theirs on MTV was 2005, and that was only a clip after commercials. MTV doesn't do music anymore.
CaptainGenerica
02-03-2009, 04:51 PM
Well I suppose I stand corrected about how mainstream My Chemical Romance is. Personally I've only heard them on the radio once or twice; they're a band I hear about more than I actually hear. And I hear about them mostly from people who happen to be talking about them, rather than entertainment media. So I got the impression they were a little on the obscure side.
LifeisNoCheese
02-03-2009, 11:32 PM
Well I suppose I stand corrected about how mainstream My Chemical Romance is. Personally I've only heard them on the radio once or twice; they're a band I hear about more than I actually hear. And I hear about them mostly from people who happen to be talking about them, rather than entertainment media. So I got the impression they were a little on the obscure side.
I understand where you're coming from, and honestley, my local alt. rock station has hardly played MCR since their last album, up until the release of the cover.
CaptainGenerica
02-04-2009, 08:06 PM
I understand where you're coming from, and honestley, my local alt. rock station has hardly played MCR since their last album, up until the release of the cover.
Truth be told I rarely listen to my local alternative station. When I listen to the radio it's either jazz or classic rock. (Actually one of the few times I heard MCR on the radio was on the classic rock station; they played their cover of Under Pressure, which I thought was decent.) When it comes to alternative I buy the albums and go to the concerts and whatnot, but no radio--I guess the DJs just bug me.
Octoberist
02-04-2009, 08:41 PM
Like Motown said, they're mainstream in the alt. rock genre. Your grandma might not know them, or your dad, or even your sibling. They don't play MCR on the pop stations, and I've never heard Metro Station on the alt. rock stations.
Honestly, the last time I saw a music video of theirs on MTV was 2005, and that was only a clip after commercials. MTV doesn't do music anymore.
I know that people always say that MTV doesn't play music vids anymore, but is it now true? Since the death of TRL, is it all gone?
alexdunn
02-04-2009, 09:43 PM
I'm usually not an MCR fan, but the song's actually not that bad. Very 80's punk.
LifeisNoCheese
02-04-2009, 10:48 PM
Truth be told I rarely listen to my local alternative station. When I listen to the radio it's either jazz or classic rock. (Actually one of the few times I heard MCR on the radio was on the classic rock station; they played their cover of Under Pressure, which I thought was decent.) When it comes to alternative I buy the albums and go to the concerts and whatnot, but no radio--I guess the DJs just bug me.
They played that on a classic rock station? That's pretty cool, Under Pressure was a good cover.
I don't really listen to the radio that much anymore. Usually just the morning talk show on my way to school.
I know that people always say that MTV doesn't play music vids anymore, but is it now true? Since the death of TRL, is it all gone?
I haven't watched it in a while. All they are is pretty much a reality tv / drama station. I think they do little clips of vids after the show is over, but I think that is about it.
inflames
02-05-2009, 02:47 AM
aaaaand here's the music video
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=51474710
spida-man
02-05-2009, 11:35 AM
love it.
CaptainGenerica
02-05-2009, 06:56 PM
They played that on a classic rock station? That's pretty cool, Under Pressure was a good cover.
I don't really listen to the radio that much anymore. Usually just the morning talk show on my way to school.
Yeah. My classic rock station does that kind of stuff occasionally. It was sort of "..and that was Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen. Speaking of Queen, My Chemical Romance just released this cover, blah blah blah."
I'm usually not an MCR fan, but the song's actually not that bad. Very 80's punk.
Don't let Mercurius hear you say that... lol.
Matt Mortem
02-05-2009, 07:32 PM
Soo I just heard it. Terrible. MCR is allright, but this did not feel very watchmen ish to me. I don't know. Not a a fan of this in Watchmen
TheBatman072
02-05-2009, 07:35 PM
Soo I just heard it. Terrible. MCR is allright, but this did not feel very watchmen ish to me. I don't know. Not a a fan of this in Watchmen
It's not in the movie.
It's played during the credits AFTER the movie.
Bubastis
02-05-2009, 07:47 PM
That song is about as damn punk as Miley Cyrus.
LifeisNoCheese
02-05-2009, 10:33 PM
It's not in the movie.
It's played during the credits AFTER the movie.
In the video, they were playing Pale Horse, and apparentley they're a bigger part of the movie than the credits.
the_tortel
02-05-2009, 10:35 PM
Like it starts playing in the final scene as it's going in to the end credits...
inflames
02-05-2009, 10:39 PM
That song is about as damn punk as Miley Cyrus.:up::facepalm
Magenta666
02-06-2009, 08:06 AM
aaaaand here's the music video
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=51474710
oh wow, i mean, not horrible or anything, but i really dont want that to be the segue from the final shot to the credits....it doesnt fit
I Am The Knight
02-06-2009, 08:15 AM
In the video, they were playing Pale Horse, and apparentley they're a bigger part of the movie than the credits.
Stop. Say no more. I will not have it. I was having a fine morning.
Mercurius
02-06-2009, 09:00 AM
That song is about as damn punk as Miley Cyrus.
Hahahahahahahahaha. :woot::woot::woot:
That's just a perfect comparison.
It almost killed me, but it was good. Hehehe. Thanks, Bubastis.
Beanjuice
02-06-2009, 09:40 AM
I feel i should be refunded for the time i wasted watching that
Magenta666
02-06-2009, 10:33 AM
i second that emotion
etrigan69
02-08-2009, 03:30 AM
Immense talent??? i don't know about that. I'm sure their decent players, but immesely talented they are most certainly are not. Theres nothing talent about doing a bob dylan cover with 3 chords and making it 3 mins.
This is immesse talent http://youtube.com/watch?v=vEu0Yj9-sM4 (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=vEu0Yj9-sM4)
MCR is a typical pop band who do nothing to impress or set themselves apart. But that just my oppinion. I feel the mainstream industry does not offer anything substantial in music, you really have to look for it these days.
For the record, Dream Theater sucks total ass. That is all......
The Battousai
02-08-2009, 11:44 AM
For the record, Dream Theater sucks total ass. That is all......
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titan101
02-08-2009, 06:36 PM
oh wow, i mean, not horrible or anything, but i really dont want that to be the segue from the final shot to the credits....it doesnt fit
my thoughts exactly . it's just too upbeat for watchmen .
And that is the main reason. Putting aside all the other (subjective) reasons why MCR/covers in general/that song is/are bad, the main, undeniable reason this song doesn't work is that it's too upbeat. I'm not a very big fan of Dylan but I've listened to Desolation Row and while to me, it doesn't completely work with the ending of Watchmen, it *sure as hell* fits more than MCR's version.
Darkness Falls
02-08-2009, 10:02 PM
now i am not really much of a MCR fan
but i must say i like desolation row :word:
Bubastis
02-09-2009, 12:29 AM
You know I really don't care for My Chemical Romance on their own terms. They aren't like Soulja Boy where they straight-up make me ill, they're just not my thing. But an upbeat rockin'-out version of a Dylan song, especially Desolation Row is just wrong. It misses the point of the lyrics and the effect of the song. I'm sure Snyder is a competant enough director, but I can't see this doing anything but wrecking the tone of the moment. It's like using "Don't stop me now" by Queen to segue Tommy Lee Jones' monologue at the end of No Country for Old Men to the credits
CaptainGenerica
02-09-2009, 07:37 PM
In the video, they were playing Pale Horse, and apparentley they're a bigger part of the movie than the credits.
Didn't it say something like "My Chemical Romance with Pale Horse"? As though they were touring together or something, not as though MCR was PH.
I'm not about to scan every frame of the video to make sure, though, so I might be wrong.
S.D. Plissken
02-09-2009, 08:47 PM
For the record, Dream Theater sucks total ass. That is all......
:facepalm
I would love it if this thread was closed. I feel retarded after reading that.
The Battousai
02-09-2009, 08:59 PM
:facepalm
I would love it if this thread was closed. I feel retarded after reading that.
I'm glad it's not just me :o
S.D. Plissken
02-09-2009, 09:06 PM
I'm glad it's not just me :o
:up:.
Motown Marvel
02-09-2009, 09:40 PM
Didn't it say something like "My Chemical Romance with Pale Horse"? As though they were touring together or something, not as though MCR was PH.
I'm not about to scan every frame of the video to make sure, though, so I might be wrong.
yeah, in the music video it says MCR playing with pale horse. but thats the music video.
due to what gerard way said, some may be worried that in the actual movie MCR is playing the band pale horse. it would suck horribly if say, in the movie while the climax is building and theres the shots of NY being destroyed, its an intense moment intercut with the band playing at madison square garden or something like that, all the while the craptacular desolation cover is playing over the entire scene. ugh.
CrimsonMist
02-09-2009, 10:16 PM
yeah, in the music video it says MCR playing with pale horse. but thats the music video.
due to what gerard way said, some may be worried that in the actual movie MCR is playing the band pale horse. it would suck horribly if say, in the movie while the climax is building and theres the shots of NY being destroyed, its an intense moment intercut with the band playing at madison square garden or something like that, all the while the craptacular desolation cover is playing over the entire scene. ugh.
I know it's not much, but think of it this way: Atleast they die.
Motown Marvel
02-09-2009, 10:19 PM
I know it's not much, but think of it this way: Atleast they die.
ha ha ha, i cant help but think of bob dylan's song, masters of war:
And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead
I Am The Knight
02-10-2009, 12:15 AM
yeah, in the music video it says MCR playing with pale horse. but thats the music video.
due to what gerard way said, some may be worried that in the actual movie MCR is playing the band pale horse. it would suck horribly if say, in the movie while the climax is building and theres the shots of NY being destroyed, its an intense moment intercut with the band playing at madison square garden or something like that, all the while the craptacular desolation cover is playing over the entire scene. ugh.
Please god no....It's enough that they are involved in the project already...
inflames
02-10-2009, 02:25 AM
http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p341/cody66720/no-darth_vader.jpg
LegendaryCaleb
02-10-2009, 02:47 AM
yeah, in the music video it says MCR playing with pale horse. but thats the music video.
due to what gerard way said, some may be worried that in the actual movie MCR is playing the band pale horse. it would suck horribly if say, in the movie while the climax is building and theres the shots of NY being destroyed, its an intense moment intercut with the band playing at madison square garden or something like that, all the while the craptacular desolation cover is playing over the entire scene. ugh.
watchmen certainly doesnt need any cringe worthy scenes....this would be horrible :csad:...hope it doesnt happen
itd be as horrible a feeling as getting something at wendys through the drive thru...them messing up the order...you take the receipt to get your extra hamburger...come back out and someone stole your bag of food out of the car....sorry if thats random...but that happened recently...and i could compare those pains...MCR is so bad
inflames
02-10-2009, 03:28 AM
watchmen certainly doesnt need any cringe worthy scenes....this would be horrible :csad:...hope it doesnt happen
itd be as horrible a feeling as getting something at wendys through the drive thru...them messing up the order...you take the receipt to get your extra hamburger...come back out and someone stole your bag of food out of the car....sorry if thats random...but that happened recently...and i could compare those pains...MCR is so bad:up::up:
LifeisNoCheese
02-10-2009, 01:13 PM
yeah, in the music video it says MCR playing with pale horse. but thats the music video.
Actually they have a picture of the marquee on their site and it says:
Tonite
My Chemical Romance
Sat 23rd Pale Horse
So I guess they're playing a totally different show.
spida-man
02-10-2009, 03:47 PM
i like the music vid and the song
Mercurius
02-10-2009, 05:11 PM
i like the music vid and the song
Wow, tell me about it. May I have your autograph?
Just kiddin', spida. Just kiddin'. :cwink:
Tommy Jarvis
02-10-2009, 06:05 PM
Look, it's inevitable: big budget Hollywood productions will cross over into pop music and create soundtrack albums. Heaven knows everyone had to deal with Prince's music being integrated into the first Batman film...ugh...as quoting Moore, "Hollywood's run by accountants." With that said, studio comic book adaptations walk hand-in-hand with popular or top selling music. But, still, anyone covering Dylan is a blasphemy. No argument. If it was an original song, this thread wouldn't exist...but, it wasn't...
Darkness Falls
02-10-2009, 06:14 PM
I for one Like mcr's cover
*hides before flaming begins*
LifeisNoCheese
02-10-2009, 09:58 PM
I never really considered MCR "pop". I mean, they're not Metro Station or the Jonas Brothers.
I don't think I'm too crazy about them being in the movie, if that's what's happening, and I'm a former fan. I'm fine with them playing in the credits, but being in the movie just seems weird to me, unless they're just extras or something walking the streets.
inflames
02-10-2009, 09:59 PM
I never really considered MCR "pop". I mean, they're not Metro Station or the Jonas Brothers.
I don't think I'm too crazy about them being in the movie, if that's what's happening, and I'm a former fan. I'm fine with them playing in the credits, but being in the movie just seems weird to me, unless they're just extras or something walking the streets.they aren't? lol
LifeisNoCheese
02-10-2009, 10:58 PM
they aren't? lol
lol. Well I couldn't really find a way to compare their music and find similarities. Maybe the Black Parade could compare to Metro Station by a strech, but even that's kinda pushing it.
etrigan69
02-11-2009, 02:56 PM
Look, it's inevitable: big budget Hollywood productions will cross over into pop music and create soundtrack albums. Heaven knows everyone had to deal with Prince's music being integrated into the first Batman film...ugh...as quoting Moore, "Hollywood's run by accountants." With that said, studio comic book adaptations walk hand-in-hand with popular or top selling music. But, still, anyone covering Dylan is a blasphemy. No argument. If it was an original song, this thread wouldn't exist...but, it wasn't...
Um, I have an argument!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQH8X4jkSxo
John Galt
02-11-2009, 05:45 PM
I think if they used MCR as the Pale Horse band at the concert near the end of the story that would work, because I don't think you're supposed to like that band, anyway. Unless you can relate to those knot heads, which I guess are supposed to be punks, or poser punks, because I think real punks are better than that. Or maybe not, I like some punk but not all. When I think punk I think Ramones and The Clash and Sex Pistols, and the knot heads and MCR are not anywhere close to any of that.
Musically, MCR sucks. They bring nothing new to the table. They have no sound of their own. Even if you compared Sex Pistols, Clash, and Ramones, yes they are the same genre, but they all have their own sound. MCR is just a bad copy.
Bob Dylan is a genius and the lyrics are great. Would much prefer original at end of movie.
The info that MCR's cover is "integral to the film" or whatever that man-child said scares me. Pale Horse is not integral to the story, it's just some random concert to show lots of people dying. The concert and the band themselves are irrelevant. Hopefully that emo idiot just doesn't know what "integral" means and it is the same situation.
Evil Twin
02-11-2009, 05:58 PM
Um, I have an argument!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQH8X4jkSxo
I have an argument too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biSagt3UMl4
CrimsonMist
02-11-2009, 06:18 PM
I have an argument too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biSagt3UMl4
Same(only no video footage)
Lou Reed covers Foot of Pride at the 30th Anniversary show as well. LOU REED covering BOB DYLAN.
Things rarely gets THAT awesome.
spida-man
03-03-2009, 01:17 PM
Have u guys seen this yet?!
http://watchmencomicmovie.com/022809-watchmen-making-desolation-row-music-video.php
LifeisNoCheese
03-06-2009, 02:03 PM
So, about the ending, I really didn't mind the song playing into the credits. Snyder did a great job of changing the mood so a loud rock song could play the movie out.
Johann Krauss
03-06-2009, 02:24 PM
I have an argument too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biSagt3UMl4
me too:yay:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka_sHy9cVH0&feature=channel_page
CrimsonMist
03-07-2009, 12:24 AM
so here's what i thought. After being vehemently against this, i've changed my mind, and im not sure if it's good or bad.
The song worked. I admit it. The song worked to end the film. But it only worked, because in my opinion, the ending with Seymour was not powerful at all.
CaptainGenerica
03-07-2009, 12:52 AM
I just got back from watching the movie. I thought the song worked fine.
Doctor Jones
03-07-2009, 09:45 AM
It was good. It was fine. It didn't interfere with the scene which I thought what was going to happen. And it fit quiet well with the last lines.
With the drums kicking in, and Rorchach's voice, you can tell that you can tell the story again.
Mercurius
03-07-2009, 10:35 AM
I thought the song (which is ridiculously delievered by a bunch of emos who try desperately to sound punk like Sex Pistols, and on a Bob Dylan's song) came at the end to tarnish the good things of the very uneven second half.
As bad as it was in itself, it came as anticlimax. The movie should have ended in a more classic, nostalgic theme like TDK did masterly.
It was a serious mistake, and could really be one of the reasons that may have cause many people, not comicbook fans, not to take the movie seriously.
For me, it was like those Eddie Vedder clones that Raimi pitilessly puts at the end of Spidey movies.
Just: ouch!
magicangel1989
03-07-2009, 10:50 AM
hey, it could have been worse. Britney Spears could have done the cover of the song.
Mercurius
03-07-2009, 11:01 AM
hey, it could have been worse. Britney Spears could have done the cover of the song.
Or even worse, Miley Cyrus. :woot::woot::woot:
spida-man
03-07-2009, 06:26 PM
I just got back from watching the movie. I thought the song worked fine.
I second that.
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