2009 NCAA Football Thread: Revenge of the Computer Polls

[omid17]

After seeing clips of Mark Mangino this weekend...I really feel concerns about his health.:funny:

OMG. Give me advance notice before you deliver such shocking news.:hehe:

[BlackLantern]

Notre Dame press conference is on Sportscenter right now if anyone cares

[Mister J]

Does anyone in the crowd appear to have tomatoes, eggs, heads of lettuce, etc.?

[Immortalfire]

Does anyone in the crowd appear to have tomatoes, eggs, heads of lettuce, etc.?

"Why is there always someone who brings eggs and tomatoes to a speech?" ~ Penguin

[BlackLantern]

actually no...it was rather civil as it was just the AD there

[Dr. Evil]

ESPN's Pat Forde thinks it will be Cincy Head Coach Brian Kelly that will be Notre Dame's next head coach. Also, two names among the "Former NFL Coaches who have won Super Bowls" have been mentioned, but Forde says that both are huge longshots.

[Dark Donnie]

Bobby Bowden stepping down tomorrow morning.

[Dr. Evil]

Bobby Bowden stepping down tomorrow morning.

And the Jimbo Fisher era has begun.

[FaT_tONle]

It was either that, or he would have been an extra cheerleader. They were to strip his recruiting responsibilities, he was to have no more say regarding the staff. He would have just been walking the sidelines cheering on.

[Byrd Man]

The news made me think of this clip.

Ug1EDJ1KZ44

[scifiwolf]

I can't believe the rumors circulating about UNC's Butch Davis taking the job at Notre Dame. The Irish would have to be retards to take him over anyone else. Butch may be the only one chomping at the bit to take the job, but he's more interested in where he's coaching as opposed to winning football games.

[rdh007]

When Notre Dame gets Brian Kelly, I'm going to be ticked. The least he could do is wait for Rich Rod to flame completely out at my beloved Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeechigan. ;)

Though I must state for the record that I do, in fact, still believe in Rich Rod.

[StorminNorman]

I can't believe the rumors circulating about UNC's Butch Davis taking the job at Notre Dame. The Irish would have to be retards to take him over anyone else. Butch may be the only one chomping at the bit to take the job, but he's more interested in where he's coaching as opposed to winning football games.

Once you win at Notre Dame, there really isn't a bigger college coaching plateau. After Cleveland, no NFL team is hiring them. Davis to ND makes a lot of sense, IMO.

[TMC1982]

http://thebiglead.com/?p=29627

The BCS is so detested that it felt compelled to start up a twitter account defending itself. And then a website. And the BCS is now on Facebook. Each social network experiment has been a resounding failure, primarily because the BCS is an inadequate, unfair, pathetic end to the college football season. This is nearly unanimously agreed upon, except for a handful of “traditionalists” and the greedy suits who profit handsomely from the dozens of meaningless bowl games.

Even the highest profile media “defender” of the BCS, Stewart Mandel of Sports Illustrated, is changing allegiances.

I’ve long been anti-playoff (albeit wanting a plus one), but these @InsidetheBCS tweets may be the straw that turns me the other way.
The media, the President, bloggers, and twitterers - have battered the BCS mercilessly. Guess who has been strangely quiet on the BCS front this year?

ESPN.

Amazingly, this is the only piece we could find on ESPN.com about the BCS and social media. It was penned by a freelancer and may as well have been written by a member of the vaunted BCS PR team.

Why wouldn’t ESPN chime in on the hot-button topic in college football?

ESPN’s baseball writers talk about Bud Selig’s postseason blunders. Its NFL writers have debated the merits of an 18-game season. Its college basketball reporters write about the silly minority that wants to expand the NCAA tournament.

Why nothing on the BCS?

ESPN is the most powerful brand in sports. It has a deep group of college football columnists, reporters, and bloggers … and very few (if any) are railing against the BCS. Ivan Maisel wrote a column that got some front-page play about how the season has been a letdown … it doesn’t even make mention of the BCS. An ESPN.com search for “Bill Hancock” (the new BCS executive director) turned up a few AP articles and very little else. Meanwhile, Hancock is going on radio shows around the country attempting to defend the BCS.

Could it be that ESPN owns and operates a handful (best we can tell, five) of bowl games? Or that ABC/ESPN will be televising 27 bowl games this winter?

Sigh. Maybe we shouldn’t be hopeful about ESPN getting the fans, players, and coaches what many of them seem to want - a playoff.

[Eddie Brock]

ESPN's Pat Forde thinks it will be Cincy Head Coach Brian Kelly that will be Notre Dame's next head coach. Also, two names among the "Former NFL Coaches who have won Super Bowls" have been mentioned, but Forde says that both are huge longshots.
I agree on this, and I also think it's going to become reality. Stoops and Meyer have already said they won't leave their respective schools. Patterson just signed a contract extension. Kelly seems like the most viable option.

[VampElvis]

I know this isn't a pic/gif thread, but I thought it would be much more appreciated here that anywhere else on the hype. Here's some (really bad) security footage of Dunlap before his DUI.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/Florida/Dunlap_Pre-DUI.gif

[Immortalfire]

He'll probably be suspended for pre-game warm ups, and their first defensive series. That'll teach him.

[RAMORE]

He'll be out the SEC championship game but I don't think they'll need him but he'll play in the big show. Sometimes you have to wonder why these guys want to screw themselves up but then I have to remind myself they are still kids really.

[RAMORE]

Suprised there is not more love on here for Bowden. While I thought it was time I was still sad to see it come to that. I hope he goes somewhere else and coaches till he's 100 like spurrier.:)

[RAMORE]

One last thing who do yall think is winning the Heisman? No one I've seen stands out really. If Mcoy gets it, it will be on career achievement. If Tebow has a standout SEC championship game he could get it still though I think he doesn't deserves it this year I would call payback from them stealing it from him last year. THoughts?

[Immortalfire]

The Heisman is a joke these days, but I'm guessing McCoy gets it, Toby Gerhart is the runner up.

[Tex]

you think that they stole the Heisman from teablow last year? he didnt have any numbers last year nor this year. if anything mccoy was robbed last year. mccoy deserves it. gerhart should of been playing like he is now the whole season and it would be his or if his team was undefeated. also i live in tallahassee and its been a media circus around the stadium over bobby leaving. the town is pretty sad about it. HOOK EM HORNS!!

[RAMORE]

I'm not a stats guy but didn't Tebow have great numbers last year and a great year, SEC champs, National Champs and let's not forget the promise!

[VampElvis]

It's not whose the stat monster, it's whose most valuable and it should have been Tebow's last year. Look as those drives in the SEC and BCS championship games. When it's on the line he's the one you want. If you take him away from the team their playing in the Papa John's bowl - maybe. if I'm a voter I give it to him because I know how important he is to the team's success.

As for Bobby Bowden - he's awesome. I really like him. One of the biggest mistakes Alabama ever made was not hiring him after Bear retired. He would have gone to the Captsone in a heartbeat. College football will miss him a lot. I will miss him a lot. I think he's one of the last few that actually care about the kids and not just what they can give him on the field. I wish he'd been able to keep it going at FSU but I think like a lot of long term successful coaches he fell victim to his loyalties over smart decision making. I can only hope he replaces Lou Holtz!

[Raiden]

Has this vid been posted yet?

Florida State offensive lineman taking a play off:

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[Mister J]

I haven't been able to take the Heisman seriously for years now. I'm not really partial to this 'most outstanding player' stuff. It should go to the best player in the country. Not the best player on the best team that happens to be of national prominence and only plays QB or RB. It's a beauty pageant.

Also, as a 'Canes fan (first and foremost) I'll definitely miss Bobby. I believe his loyalties got the better of him, but I wish his departure was handled with greater decorum. I always want to see Miami top FSU, but there was a respect there. Now, I couldn't care less about that program. I hope they really fall on hard times.

Not that what I wish for actually manages to manifest itself into reality. :awesome:

[Immortalfire]

I haven't been able to take the Heisman seriously for years now. I'm not really partial to this 'most outstanding player' stuff. It should go to the best player in the country. Not the best player on the best team that happens to be of national prominence and only plays QB or RB. It's a beauty pageant.


Exactly :up:

[Mister J]

Source: Mangino Out at Kansas (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4711389)
Mark Mangino will not return as Kansas football coach, a source close to the situation told Joe Schad of ESPN Thursday night.

The team is scheduled to be told at a meeting Thursday evening.

Athletic director Lew Perkins launched an investigation into Mangino's treatment of players three weeks ago. The Jayhawks won the first five games of the season before going on a seven-game losing streak. Mangino was 50-48 in eight years -- two wins shy of the school record for a coach.

The investigation began after allegedly grabbed, yelled at and poked senior linebacker Arist Wright, who had been laughing during a walk-through or practice prior to the Oct. 17 Colorado game. Since then, several former Kansas players come forward with allegations of verbal abuse.

Mangino inherited the Kansas program in 2002. Five seasons later, the Jayhawks were 12-1 and won the Orange Bowl over Virginia Tech. He was named Associated Press Coach of the Year.

I can't decide which is of the greater magnitude; the coming surplus of food in the state of Kansas or the coming shortage of demand for perishable goods. I'm going to have to think about this.

[BlackLantern]

can't wait to see what horrid uniform combo Oregon throws out there tonight

[Mister J]

Fun Fact: There was consideration of adjusting the PAC-10 schedule to accommodate the Civil War being played a week earlier (on Thanksgiving). The plan was ultimately scrapped due to fear of people being able to keep their meals down after being subjected to Oregon's uniform combo.

[omid17]

Source: Mangino Out at Kansas (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4711389)

I can't decide which is of the greater magnitude; the coming surplus of food in the state of Kansas or the coming shortage of demand for perishable goods. I'm going to have to think about this.lmao

[BlackLantern]

considering this game is at night...Oregon should break out the yellow jerseys just to make sure people can see them

[Immortalfire]

Source: Mangino Out at Kansas (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4711389)

I can't decide which is of the greater magnitude; the coming surplus of food in the state of Kansas or the coming shortage of demand for perishable goods. I'm going to have to think about this.

Nooooo :csad:

[Mister J]

Scary Thought: What if Mangino is depressed by this and turns to food for comfort. :eek:

[Immortalfire]

For serious though..I do have a concern for his health.

[omid17]

Scary Thought: What if Mangino is depressed by this and turns to food for comfort. :eek:lol im sure that's what he's doin right now, he better find another job cause he's going to explode any minute

[BlackLantern]

For serious though..I do have a concern for his health.

I think you just want him to stop eating all your funny bones

[omid17]

:funny:
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[Immortalfire]

Good lord, Oregon

:barf:

[BlackLantern]

its a night game man...the yellow helmets are for safety

[Dr. Evil]

Hopefully Kansas hires a coach that doesn't weigh the same weight as an 18 Wheeler.

[FaT_tONle]

Atleast it wasn't the neon yellow jerseys... those are atrocious. I don't know why they ditch the dark green so often though.

[Scar Predator]

Hopefully Kansas hires a coach that doesn't weigh the same weight as an 18 Wheeler.

If Kansas hires someone who could make them a perennial winner, he could be obese, ugly, wear polka dot cut-off shorts, have a mullet, and pick his nose on camera without any backlash. Winning makes everything ok. Ask Philadelphia Eagles' fans.

Mangino was only an average head coach at best. I'm surprised he lasted this long.

[BlackLantern]

If Kansas hires someone who could make them a perennial winner, he could be obese, ugly, wear polka dot cut-off shorts, have a mullet, and pick his nose on camera without any backlash. Winning makes everything ok. Ask Philadelphia Eagles' fans.

Mangino was only an average head coach at best. I'm surprised he lasted this long.

Mangino got them to the 3 bowl wins, when in the prior 100 seasons of Kansas football, they had ZERO bowl wins....apparently he did something right and in this wussified society we live in now, people can't handle a little verbal abuse as a tradeoff for winning

[StorminNorman]

If Kansas hires someone who could make them a perennial winner, he could be obese, ugly, wear polka dot cut-off shorts, have a mullet, and pick his nose on camera without any backlash. Winning makes everything ok. Ask Philadelphia Eagles' fans.

Mangino was only an average head coach at best. I'm surprised he lasted this long.

Only an average coach? In five years he is the only relevant coach in Kansas Jayhawk history. He won an Orange Bowl...WITH KANSAS!

[Scar Predator]

Mangino got them to the 3 bowl wins, when in the prior 100 seasons of Kansas football, they had ZERO bowl wins....apparently he did something right and in this wussified society we live in now, people can't handle a little verbal abuse as a tradeoff for winning

Only an average coach? In five years he is the only relevant coach in Kansas Jayhawk history. He won an Orange Bowl...WITH KANSAS!

50-48 overall, 23-41 in the Big 12. I know it's a stacked conference and Kansas has very little history but those numbers aren't impressive at all. He seems better suited as an OC.

[RAMORE]

It's not whose the stat monster, it's whose most valuable and it should have been Tebow's last year. Look as those drives in the SEC and BCS championship games. When it's on the line he's the one you want. If you take him away from the team their playing in the Papa John's bowl - maybe. if I'm a voter I give it to him because I know how important he is to the team's success.

As for Bobby Bowden - he's awesome. I really like him. One of the biggest mistakes Alabama ever made was not hiring him after Bear retired. He would have gone to the Captsone in a heartbeat. College football will miss him a lot. I will miss him a lot. I think he's one of the last few that actually care about the kids and not just what they can give him on the field. I wish he'd been able to keep it going at FSU but I think like a lot of long term successful coaches he fell victim to his loyalties over smart decision making. I can only hope he replaces Lou Holtz!


I completely agree:up:

[RAMORE]

:funny:
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This is so rediculous:doh::lmao: At some point you know he was thinking ok I've waited to long to move there's no whistle I just better wait till the play is over:D

[BlackLantern]

Jack Swardwick (Notre Dames AD) said in an interview that the loss to UConn essentially cemented Charlie Weiss' fate...thats right, the UConn Huskies....you're welcome America

[BlackLantern]

and since 'Fire isn't here, I appoint myself:

It's Championship Gameday!!!

todays slate of games includes:

Cincinnati at Pittsburgh (Big East Championship)

Florida vs. Alabama (SEC Championship) at the Georgia Dome

Nebraska vs. Texas (Big 12 Championship) at the UFO in Texas

Georgia Tech vs. Clemson (ACC Championship)

[StorminNorman]

and since 'Fire isn't here, I appoint myself:

It's Championship Gameday!!!

todays slate of games includes:

Cincinnati at Pittsburgh (Big East Championship)

Florida vs. Alabama (SEC Championship) at the Georgia Dome

Nebraska vs. Texas (Big 12 Championship) at the UFO in Texas

Georgia Tech vs. Clemson (ACC Championship)

Give me Pitt, Florida, Nebraska and Tech.

[BlackLantern]

Ive noticed a lot of people going with Nebraska....even some sports books are suggesting that the Huskers have a shot

[Excel]

Jonathan Baldwin has earned a spot in 2011s elite receiver class. Big 3 no more, now a big 4. 1. AJ Green 2. Michael Floyd 3. Julio Jones 4. Jonathan Baldwni

All are top 10 worthy at the moment.

[Marx]

Woohoo Cincinnati! :applaud

[BlackLantern]

great game by both teams

[Franklin Richards]

My head says Florida but my heart says Alabama.


Where's Keith Jackson when we need him for this matchup?


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Mister J]

They need a satellite feed from Jackson's home, just so I can hear him say Alllllabama.

[BlackLantern]

I want to pick Florida but I don't want to underestimate Nick Saban

[Tex]

Texas will win today

[Kelly]

My head says Florida but my heart says Alabama.


Where's Keith Jackson when we need him for this matchup?


:thing: :doom: :thing:

As a Tennessee fan, its hard for me to say....but I'm for Alabama in this game.

Mainly because if Alabama wins, we will probably see this game again for the National Championship and I hate Texas with a passion.

If Florida wins, and Texas wins it will be Texas and Florida in the National Championship. The only team from Texas that I want this year in that game is TCU, and that just won't happen.

I'm upset that the Outback Bowl went with Auburn, but I'll get over it, looking to next year for a better Tennessee Christmas.


Damn, I hope that missed Extra point doesn't bite them in the ass later on.

[Kelly]

Well, looks like I might just get old Texas OUT of the Natl. Championship game if Alabama keeps this up. Now all I need is Nebraska to help out, and its a go...or no go for Texas.

[The Game]

So Ingram looks a cert for the heisman, lets talk about it

[Franklin Richards]

If McCoy throws 5 tonight he'll win. Ingram is not a lock.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[redfirebird2008]

Florida's defense is getting manhandled today. Definitely looking bleak for them to win at this point. I'm kinda glad to see this. I don't like Alabama, but it's nice to see a little parity going on. I'm sure if they have another rematch in the years to come that Florida will be ultra-pumped up for it just like Bama was ultra-pumped today after losing the SEC championship game to Florida last year.

[Dr. Evil]

Tim "He'll be the Wildcat Guy on Sundays" Tebow is a bit emotional after a postgame interview.

And why are some people picking Texas to lose? Nebraska doesn't have that great of an offense and except for that stud of a lineman in Ndamukong Suh (maybe a top five pick in the NFL Draft), they have an okay defense.

[FaT_tONle]

BCS would have been a mess if Cinci lost the Pitt game. It wouldn't be fair not to give Cinn an At-Large with one loss. Bowl idiots probably would have taken Joe Pa over Kelly's team. I still think Cinci needs to jump TCU if Texas slips.

[NotFadeAway]

So, the Bearcats are likely to get Tebow and Brandon Spikes in there last collegiate game. My heart wants to believe Cincy has a shot, but I'm already starting to feel sorry for them.

The best GAME for the national title would be Alabama/TCU. But, stupid Texas will likely beat Nebraska.

[TMC1982]

Courtesy of Wallyhorse over on Television Without Pity (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3118862&st=2535#):

Sugar Bowl Region
(8) North Carolina (32) at (1) Florida-Alabama Winner (1)
(7) West Virginia (25) at (2) Ohio State (8)
(6) Nebraska (24) at (3) Houston (9)
(5) BYU (17) at (4) Troy (16)

Orange Bowl Region
(8) Wisconsin (29) at (1) Cincinnati (4)
(7) Clemson (28) at (2) Boise State (5)
(6) USC (21) at (3) Penn State (12)
(5) Miami (20) at (4) Central Michigan (13)
Easily the marquee matchup of the first round would be USC traveling to Happy Valley to play Penn State in probably some very un-Southern California-type weather.

Fiesta Bowl Region
(8) Northwestern (31) at (1) Texas (2)
(7) Stanford (26) at (2) Alabama-Florida Loser (7)
(6) Oklahoma State (23) at (3) Iowa (10)
(5) Pittsburgh (18) at (4) LSU (15)

Rose Bowl Region
(8) Arizona (30) at (1) TCU (3)
(7) Utah (27) at (2) Oregon (6)
(6) California (22) at (3) Georgia Tech (11)
(5) Oregon State (19) at (4) Virginia Tech (14)


In this format, the first two rounds would be at home sites, with the first round the week after Thanksgiving, then after a one-week break (in part to account for finals and in part to allow for schools to more easily make arrangements) the second round would be played on the week after the Heisman Trophy presentation. First round losers along with schools that failed to make the 32-team field would play in the lower tier bowls, with the higher-seeded first round losers getting the better of those bowl games. Second round losers would play in one of the top four non-BCS Bowl games: The two highest seeded second round losers would play in the Cotton Bowl, the next two highest would play in the Capital One Bowl, the two highest after that would play in the Chick-Fil-A (Peach) Bowl and the two lowest seeded second round losers would play in the Holiday Bowl. Each of those four bowl games, along with what would be the top Bowl games for first round losers (Gator, Outback, Liberty and Independence Bowls) would be in a rotation that would every few years play host to one of the two national semifinal games in addition to their regular bowl game.

[BlackLantern]

that seems like just as much of a mess...I would just go with somewhere between the top 10 or 12 teams and just use the BCS bowls as "playoff rounds"

[FaT_tONle]

16 teams is a mess let alone 32 teams. It would make for a kickass December/January, but the regular season would be so diluted to nothing, that people will lose interest even where college football is religion. I don't even like 8 teams every year. The only teams that are deserving of it right now are TCU/Cinn/Tex/Alabama... maybe make an argument for Boise. A plus-one basically solves 75% of the problem.

[FaT_tONle]

Delete

[Kelly]

So Ingram looks a cert for the heisman, lets talk about it

I don't think he has it in the bag, but I will say that many do not like the idea of a QB again this year.

I would go with Ingram, but who knows.

[Kelly]

that seems like just as much of a mess...I would just go with somewhere between the top 10 or 12 teams and just use the BCS bowls as "playoff rounds"

IMO, that would lose money for the bowls, and they ain't goin' for that one...

[Excel]

Heisman is between Mark Ingram, CJ Spiller, and Colt McCoy.

[omid17]

wow, Texas with 1 second

[KALEL114]

Pasadena, here we come. :up:

[Excel]

Texas played like ****. Alabama will crush them. TCU-Bama would be better.

[Trainwreck2100]

Texas played like ****. Alabama will crush them. TCU-Bama would be better.

They said 05 USC would crush UT too. How soon you forget that Bama came close to losing this year if not for a blocked FG

[omid17]

Texas played like ****. Alabama will crush them. TCU-Bama would be better.:up:

[Zephyr Alexian]

Texas played like ****. Alabama will crush them.
I was thinking the same thing. Nebraska's front four manhandled Texas's offensive line. Those guys were incredible.

[StorminNorman]

**** this season.

[Excel]

You know whose stuck exploded today...he was top 5 easy but now #1 could be hard to pass...ndamukong suh was godlike.

[Trainwreck2100]

You know whose stuck exploded today...he was top 5 easy but now #1 could be hard to pass...ndamukong suh was godlike.

i wouldn't say he was top 5, his beastyness had him #1 on alot of the draft predictions, so i'd go with top one. That being said not just his stock went up, but everyone picked after him will get payed more cause he earned himself a couple extra mil tonight.

[redfirebird2008]

You know whose stuck exploded today...he was top 5 easy but now #1 could be hard to pass...ndamukong suh was godlike.

If the Heisman were truly based on the "most outstanding player in college football" as it's touted to be, then Suh would win it hands down. He is a frickin' beast and has been the entire season. Colt has played like crap for the most part this year. Heck, I will readily admit that my team (Texas Tech) was only able to stay within 10 points of Texas because of Colt playing like garbage. Ingram has had a good year but not what I would call incredible. Suh has been incredible.

[BlackLantern]

Texas played like ****. Alabama will crush them. TCU-Bama would be better.

then Nebraska should have won....even if this was a "playoff" game, Texas still won so they would have advanced

I hate the BCS as much as the next guy, but everyone with this "love the underdog" mentality wouldn't want Texas in that game even if Texas smashed Nebraska

[StorminNorman]

i wouldn't say he was top 5, his beastyness had him #1 on alot of the draft predictions, so i'd go with top one. That being said not just his stock went up, but everyone picked after him will get payed more cause he earned himself a couple extra mil tonight.

No.

I am hoping Tampa passes on Suh for some bizarre reason.

[Kelly]

then Nebraska should have won....even if this was a "playoff" game, Texas still won so they would have advanced

I hate the BCS as much as the next guy, but everyone with this "love the underdog" mentality wouldn't want Texas in that game even if Texas smashed Nebraska


No, I don't have a "love the underdog" mentality, I just hate Texas. I have many friends who graduated from Univ. of Texas and the mentality of I graduated from "The University" which many will say if you ask them where they graduated, just makes me want to puke. :o

[StorminNorman]

Bo Pelini's conservative play calling at the end of the game was almost Les Miles amount of fail.

[BlackLantern]

No, I don't have a "love the underdog" mentality, I just hate Texas. I have many friends who graduated from Univ. of Texas and the mentality of I graduated from "The University" which many will say if you ask them where they graduated, just makes me want to puke. :o

of course, Kel.....I know of your rage of a thousand suns level of anger towards the Longhorns

[Tex]

say all yall want about hating Texas but they still won. they played like **** and suh was just a beast. so you guys from Texas will be rooting for bama?

[StorminNorman]

Can both of them lose?

[BlackLantern]

No...I actually like Nick Saban so I'll probably root for Bama

[Tex]

i think one of them has to win. Texas. who would you of rather seen playing?

[Dr. Evil]

ESPN mentioned last night that Turner Gill will be interviewing to replace Mangino at Kansas.

[BlackLantern]

with Oregon on such a grand stage as the Rose Bowl, I can only imagine what uniforms they will see fit to grace us with

[Dr. Evil]

Boise vs. TCU at the Fiesta Bowl.

[Trainwreck2100]

Boise vs. TCU at the Fiesta Bowl.

well that sucks, they played each other last year. And it keeps 2 at large teams from beating automatic qualifiers. Wuss move from the BCS

[BlackLantern]

and that game will probably steal the BCS show

[StorminNorman]

Congratulations BCS, you have proven yourself to be just as incompetent, as corrupt, as bad for the sport as your most heated of critics have said you are.

Putting Boise State and TCU against each other in the Bowl is an insult to their entire season. Those kids deserved a chance at a "BCS" team to prove just how inane their system is. Instead they have to settle for playing for a bowl game that has instantly become completely irrelevant.

They should have pit Boise and TCU against Cincinatti and Florida. It doesn't matter who went where, but that was the obvious quality decision.

Of course you wouldn't want to have poor little WAC Boise State embarrass the Big East champion, proving their conference is every bit as good as they are. You wouldn't want to have another example of a Mountain West conference having success against a BCS conference.

This is the first time the BCS has actually hurt the sport of college football. Congratulations *******s.

[StorminNorman]

and that game will probably steal the BCS show
Why? The game doesn't matter now.

[BlackLantern]

should still be a great game to watch...I don't think either team is going to sluff off due to the incompetence of the BCS

[Dr. Evil]

Cincy vs. Florida at the Sugar Bowl.

[Dr. Evil]

Georgia Tech vs. Iowa at Orange Bowl

[Trainwreck2100]

and that game will probably steal the BCS show

They played last year and it was good, but the cinderella aspect is gone now

Congratulations BCS, you have proven yourself to be just as incompetent, as corrupt, as bad for the sport as your most heated of critics have said you are.

Putting Boise State and TCU against each other in the Bowl is an insult to their entire season. Those kids deserved a chance at a "BCS" team to prove just how inane their system is. Instead they have to settle for playing for a bowl game that has instantly become completely irrelevant.

They should have pit Boise and TCU against Cincinatti and Florida. It doesn't matter who went where, but that was the obvious quality decision.

Of course you wouldn't want to have poor little WAC Boise State embarrass the Big East champion, proving their conference is every bit as good as they are. You wouldn't want to have another example of a Mountain West conference having success against a BCS conference.

This is the first time the BCS has actually hurt the sport of college football. Congratulations *******s.

Seriously Cincy/Boise and TCU/Florida would have been two great bowls

[El_Citrus]

Cincy vs GT would have been a barn burner score wise, but I hope that Cincy whips the Florida Tebows and finish the season undefeated, even if they are a conference rival.

[StorminNorman]

should still be a great game to watch...I don't think either team is going to sluff off due to the incompetence of the BCS

It won't be half the game it could be.

Yes, both teams will be pumped to try to win a Bowl game - but there won't be sparks like there were when Boise played Oklahoma.

The BCS could have made four great match-ups, in stead they created three games NO ONE should care about.

Cincinnati-Florida in the let down bowl (possibly without even the mildly interesting sub-plot of Urban Meyer vs. Diet Urban Meyer).

Boise State-TCU in the insult bowl.

Iowa-GT in the most unattractive matchup in modern BCS history bowl.

When the Rose Bowl is the most exciting BCS matchup, there is a real problem.

[Bunker]

The Bureaucratic Championship Series prevails again.

[El_Citrus]

Boise vs. TCU at the Fiesta Bowl.

Wow, really? I guess the BCS doesn't want to have another big conference embarassment like Utah/Bama last year on their hands, so they just put TCU/BS together and, consequently, under the rug so to speak where they're out of sight and out of mind.

Just one missed kick last night and we could have had potential BCS Chaos. Although I don't see TCU or Boise State causing an uproar about this or the rankings if they finish undefeated.

[Kelly]

say all yall want about hating Texas but they still won. they played like **** and suh was just a beast. so you guys from Texas will be rooting for bama?


A definite YES, I'm an SEC girl all the way. I will route for the SEC team, no matter who they are...UNLESS they are playing against Tennessee, then I have to go with my Vols, but even with that, still going with the SEC.

[BlackLantern]

It won't be half the game it could be.

Yes, both teams will be pumped to try to win a Bowl game - but there won't be sparks like there were when Boise played Oklahoma.

The BCS could have made four great match-ups, in stead they created three games NO ONE should care about.

Cincinnati-Florida in the let down bowl (possibly without even the mildly interesting sub-plot of Urban Meyer vs. Diet Urban Meyer).

Boise State-TCU in the insult bowl.

Iowa-GT in the most unattractive matchup in modern BCS history bowl.

When the Rose Bowl is the most exciting BCS matchup, there is a real problem.

yea...Iowa is interesting but I have never liked watching Georgia Tech....ever

[FaT_tONle]

Cincinatti can still put a dent in the BCS if they beat Fla and Texas gets blown out. Unlikely but possible. I guess they figured Cincinatti is a tough sell as far as fans from a smaller school making the trip out to Tempe. TCU is an easier commute. They could have also put Iowa/Boise St, but that's obviously the worst of all possible matchups IMO. If Nebraska had won, we would have gotten an even ****tier Fiesta Bowl and the other bowls would not have been much better.

[omid17]

BCS bowl games are set (http://m.www.yahoo.com/_ylt=AjK.IzmlhS6IeFg3T9kYiU6bvZx4;_ylu=X3oDMTM5dGk xaTBiBGEDMDkxMjA2IHJpdmFscyBmaW5hbCBiY3MgdARjcG9zA zEEZwNpZC0xNjUwMgRpbnRsA3VzBHBrZ3YDNgRwb3MDMgRzZWM DdGQtZmVhdARzbGsDdGl0bGUEc2xwb3MDRgR0ZXN0AzcwMQ--/SIG=120n3vnqh/**http%3A//collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp%3FCID=1025452)

[Darthphere]

Why is the Orange Bowl always so ****ing terrible?

[El_Citrus]

Here's a list of all the bowl matchups:

New Mexico
Fresno State vs. Wyoming

St. Petersburg
UCF vs. Rutgers

R+L Carriers New Orleans
Southern Miss vs. Middle Tennessee

MAACO Las Vegas
Oregon State vs. BYU

S.D. County Credit Union Poinsettia
Utah vs. Cal

Sheraton Hawaii
Nevada vs. SMU

Little Caesars
Marshall vs. Ohio

Meineke Car Care
Pitt vs. North Carolina

Emerald
Boston College vs. USC

Gaylord Hotels Music City
Kentucky vs. Clemson

AdvoCare V100 Independence
Texas A&M vs. Georgia

EagleBank
Army or UCLA vs. Temple

Champs Sports
Miami vs. Wisconsin

Roady's Humanitarian
Bowling Green vs. Idaho

Pacific Life Holiday
Arizona vs. Nebraska

Bell Helicopter Armed Forces
Houston vs. Air Force

Brut Sun
Oklahoma vs. Stanford

Texas
Navy vs. Missouri

Insight
Minnesota vs. Iowa State

Chick-fil-A
Virginia Tech vs. Tennessee

Outback
Northwestern vs. Auburn

Capital One
Penn State vs. LSU

Konica Minolta Gator
West Virginia vs. Florida State


GMAC
Central Michigan vs. Troy

International
South Florida vs. Northern Illinois

Papajohns.com
South Carolina vs. UConn

AT&T Cotton
Oklahoma State vs. Ole Miss

AutoZone Liberty
Arkansas vs. East Carolina

Valero Alamo
Michigan State vs. Texas Tech



BCS GAMES:

Rose Bowl Game presented by Citi
Ohio State vs. Oregon

Tostitos Fiesta
Boise State vs. TCU

FedEx Orange
Iowa vs. Georgia Tech

Allstate Sugar
Florida vs. Cincinnati


Citi BCS National Championship Game
Texas vs. Alabama



Ugh, of all the bowl games for WVU to get, we have to face Bobby Bowden in his last game in the Gator Bowl. Y-a-y.

[StorminNorman]

God that sucks.

[TMC1982]

http://awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/2009/12/your-2010-bcs-bowl-game-schedule.html

Friday, January 1st

Rose Bowl (ABC, 5pm): Ohio State Buckeyes vs. Oregon Ducks - Brent Musburger and Kirk Herbstreit
Sugar Bowl (FOX, 8:30pm): Cincinnati Bearcats vs. Florida Gators - Thom Brennaman and Brian Billick

Monday, January 4th

Fiesta Bowl (FOX, 8pm): Boise State Broncos vs. TCU Horned Frogs - Sam Rosen and Tim Ryan

Tuesday, January 5th

Orange Bowl (FOX, 8pm): Iowa Hawkeyes vs. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets - Dick Stockton and Charles Davis

Thursday, January 7th

BCS National Championship Game (ABC, 8pm): Alabama Crimson Tide vs. Texas Longhorns - Brent Musburger and Kirk Herbstreit

[Dr. Evil]

Dick Stockton? I've always found that guy to be creepy looking. Him and Kenny Albert.

[redfirebird2008]

Why is the Orange Bowl always so ****ing terrible?

Excellent question. I've been wondering the same thing for years.

[redfirebird2008]

BCS National Championship Game (ABC, 8pm): Alabama Crimson Tide vs. Texas Longhorns - Brent Musburger and Kirk Herbstreit

Oh sheesh. There is no bigger Texas apologist than Muffburger. Dammit all to hell that he's calling this game. :cmad:

[Dr. Evil]

http://awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/2009/12/your-2010-bcs-bowl-game-schedule.html

Friday, January 1st

Rose Bowl (ABC, 5pm): Ohio State Buckeyes vs. Oregon Ducks - Brent Musburger and Kirk Herbstreit
Sugar Bowl (FOX, 8:30pm): Cincinnati Bearcats vs. Florida Gators - Thom Brennaman and Brian Billick

Monday, January 4th

Fiesta Bowl (FOX, 8pm): Boise State Broncos vs. TCU Horned Frogs - Sam Rosen and Tim Ryan

Tuesday, January 5th

Orange Bowl (FOX, 8pm): Iowa Hawkeyes vs. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets - Dick Stockton and Charles Davis

Thursday, January 7th

BCS National Championship Game (ABC, 8pm): Alabama Crimson Tide vs. Texas Longhorns - Brent Musburger and Kirk Herbstreit

It's no wonder ESPN won the rights to broadcast the BCS back from Fox. those are awful announce teams.

[StorminNorman]

Rosen and Ryan are good.

[BlackLantern]

yay...UConn is in the Pizza Bowl with South Carolina....

I think the only way a team like a TCU or a Boise State gets into the national champioship game is if they go into one of these big teams stadiums, be it Austin, Gainesville, etc and throws a beating to one of these SEC teams

the BCS is kinda like the Oscars, its basically to the point where you have to eat **** for a long time and once the Academy makes its own silly determination that you've eaten enough **** and been nominated enough times you get one

[FaT_tONle]

Excellent question. I've been wondering the same thing for years.

Bowl Tie-Ins... they are locked into the ACC/Big East every year. Although there was that year they had the Carson Palmer led Trojans against Iowa, Big 10/Pac 10 oddly enough... probably because Miami went to the title game from the Big East. I forget exactly.

[Byrd Man]

yay...UConn is in the Pizza Bowl with South Carolina....

Yeeeah! After USC is done with them, they're gonna look like street pizza, mother****ers. :cmad:

[BlackLantern]

Yeeeah! After USC is done with them, they're gonna look like street pizza, mother****ers. :cmad:

why so mean?? does picking on little UConn make you feel like a big man or something...??

[El_Citrus]

I really liked Pat Forde's picks for the Heisman with Geirhart and Boise State's quarterback as finalists and the rightful winner in Suh. Of course it won't happen, but that's what it should be instead of Tebow, Ingram, and McCoy.

One the other hand, I couldn't stand Mar May trying to defend the BCS and even trying to defend Boise State vs TCU. It will be a great game, but it shouldn't be happening unless it's in a playoff. I guess the BCS doesn't like the prospect of three undefeated teams at the end of the year who AREN'T the National Champs.

[TMC1982]

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[Immortalfire]

My nephew and I watched the SEC championship..both went :whatever: at Tebow crying.

The chuckled at the Texas/Nebraska game at how low scoring it was, and how they kept trading interceptions and punts.

[Addendum]

yay...UConn is in the Pizza Bowl with South Carolina....

I think the only way a team like a TCU or a Boise State gets into the national champioship game is if they go into one of these big teams stadiums, be it Austin, Gainesville, etc and throws a beating to one of these SEC teams

the BCS is kinda like the Oscars, its basically to the point where you have to eat **** for a long time and once the Academy makes its own silly determination that you've eaten enough **** and been nominated enough times you get one

Which is why the NCAA should simply drop the charade and have the BCS schools be their own conference, and the non-BCS schools as their own conference

[BlackLantern]

but it's not a charade....it's not, it's not, it's not

[BlackLantern]

My nephew and I watched the SEC championship..both went :whatever: at Tebow crying.

The chuckled at the Texas/Nebraska game at how low scoring it was, and how they kept trading interceptions and punts.

Strong men also cry.....strong men also cry


:hehe:

[El_Citrus]

At this rate, I would rather the BCS people come out and just say that a Non-BCS school is never going to be allowed to play in a National Championship game under this system than continue to shove teams like TCU and Boise State under the rug and say that the two powerhouse-schools (This year, Bama/Texas) are the clear 1 and 2 and that they don't need a playoff.

[Addendum]

But that requires common sense. Something that the NCAA lacks with regard to football, as well as basketball (telling a college that a player is eligible to play in a tournament twice, and then retroactively declaring him ineligible a year later, and then punishing said school for playing that individual anyway)

[Immortalfire]

Dan Wetzel talks playoff http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=Ap209hWUeCB_4H5fooWiOl0cvrYF?slug=dw-ncaafplayoff120709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

On one of its propaganda websites, the BCS asks whether a playoff would really satisfy everyone?

“NO!!!” it boldly declares.

Who knew Ari Fleischer wrote like a sixth-grade girl on an iPhone?

Give the campaign credit for this: It’s hardly bothering to explain why the BCS is any good.

Instead, it launched a clown-show website (playoffproblem.com) that claims there can’t be a playoff because college football is incapable of figuring out how one might work.

Sure, every other sports entity on the planet can do it, but we somehow can’t decide how many teams would be in it or where they’d play and so on? So stop asking.

[BlackLantern]

the BCS also launched a twitter page to try and "connect with the fans"...didn't work out too well

[Immortalfire]

LoL

[Mister J]

That Twitter page looks like a bigger sham than the BCS itself is. Comes across like a parody ...or are they just that simple/clueless/arrogant?

Have I mentioned that I hate Twitter? Not as much as I hate the BCS, but still.

[BlackLantern]

Twitter is the Devil

[El_Citrus]

The first page of Playoff Problem.com makes me want to drink gasoline rather than read anymore. Is that the only way anyone can defend the BCS?

[BlackLantern]

I think there can be a compromise...keep the "BCS" and create a playoff system using the bowl games as "playoff" rounds....if anything some of the bowls might have to move a week or two to accomodate

[Immortalfire]

The first page of Playoff Problem.com makes me want to drink gasoline rather than read anymore. Is that the only way anyone can defend the BCS?

Seriously, It's like they know they're full of crap, but trying to convince themselves and everyone that they aren't. Blech :whatever:

[Dr. Evil]

Maybe the NCAA can hire Older Jim Mora and have him go "Playoffs? Don't talk about Playoffs, You Kidding me? Playoffs?" everytime the question of a playoff system in college football comes up.

[Kelly]

My nephew and I watched the SEC championship..both went :whatever: at Tebow crying.

The chuckled at the Texas/Nebraska game at how low scoring it was, and how they kept trading interceptions and punts.

I didn't have a problem with it...unless you have played in a game of that magnitude it is very hard to understand the emotion involved...

His interview afterwards was very classy, classy to the extreme...

[Zephyr Alexian]

I think there can be a compromise...keep the "BCS" and create a playoff system using the bowl games as "playoff" rounds....if anything some of the bowls might have to move a week or two to accomodate

Actually, that's not a bad idea. Probably why it will never see the light of day.

[Addendum]

Dan Wetzel talks playoff http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=Ap209hWUeCB_4H5fooWiOl0cvrYF?slug=dw-ncaafplayoff120709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

One of the best articles I've ever read

[Marx]

...so Brian Kelly has been contacted by Notre Dame about the head coaching spot. He told the team that he is going to New York for an interview and said that he may not be back in time to coach the Bearcats in the Sugar Bowl. :dry:

What a jerk! :argh:

[StorminNorman]

...so Brian Kelly has been contacted by Notre Dame about the head coaching spot. He told the team that he is going to New York for an interview and said that he may not be back in time to coach the Bearcats in the Sugar Bowl. :dry:

What a jerk! :argh:

No, he told the team that he is going to New York for an interview and said that it's possible he won't coach in the Sugar Bowl (if he accepts the Notre Dame job). I added in the parenthesis because Kelly worded it along the lines of "well I can't GUARANTEE that I will wake up tomorrow" sort of deal.

[Marx]

No, he told the team that he is going to New York for an interview and said that it's possible he won't coach in the Sugar Bowl (if he accepts the Notre Dame job). I added in the parenthesis because Kelly worded it along the lines of "well I can't GUARANTEE that I will wake up tomorrow" sort of deal.

That's not what I heard...

[Dr. Evil]

Heisman Trophy Finalists are announced:

1. QB Colt McCoy, Texas
2. RB Mark Ingram, Alabama
3. RB Toby Gerhart, Stanford
4. QB Tim Tebow, Florida
5. DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4723007

I'd actually like to see Suh win the thing, but I think it will go to McCoy.

[Immortalfire]

I'm hoping for Gerhart.

Tebow doesn't belong on that list.

[BlackLantern]

if I throw enough money at the NCAA, can I get a bowl named whatever I want?? I want the "Super Lazer Awesome Bowl"

[Immortalfire]

Kirk Herby mentioned that Boise and TCU met in a bowl last year, he rattled off it's ungodly long sponsored name...whatever it was :down

[El_Citrus]

Tebow definitely doesn't belong on that list, but I'm glad to see Gerhart and Suh as finalists, although the winner is going to be either Ingram or McCoy so that the NC game can have the Heisman winner and a finalist for extra ratings. It saddens me that in this past decade, every Heisman trophy winner has played in the National Title game with the exception of one, which was, of course, Messiah Tebow's Heisman year. In other words, get ready for Colt McCoy to most likely receive the trophy, only for his Longhorns to get blown out against Alabama, who have a better defense than Nebraska and a better offense than Texas A&M.

[BlackLantern]

how does Tebow not deserve to be a finalist?? broke the SEC record for touchdowns...some games had more rushing yards than the whole opposing team....I get everyone wants to run down the popular guy but he's done a LOT for college football

[Byrd Man]

why so mean?? does picking on little UConn make you feel like a big man or something...??

I'll take my victories where I can get them! And it does make me feel like a big man, picking on a Big East team....although they'll probably kick USC's ass.

[Immortalfire]

how does Tebow not deserve to be a finalist?? broke the SEC record for touchdowns...some games had more rushing yards than the whole opposing team....I get everyone wants to run down the popular guy but he's done a LOT for college football

I just don't think he's had that big of a year..he's not even the best quarterback in the SEC, much less a Heisman finalist IMO. They put him in there just because he's Tim Tebow.

But then again, the Heisman has been a joke for awhile now, so I don't even really care.

[StorminNorman]

I just don't think he's had that big of a year..he's not even the best quarterback in the SEC, much less a Heisman finalist IMO. They put him in there just because he's Tim Tebow.

But then again, the Heisman has been a joke for awhile now, so I don't even really care.

He's only not had THAT big of a year for Tim Tebow.

The fact remains that Tim Tebow unquestionably should have won the Heisman last year, was robbed and doesn't deserve it at all this year.

That's not what I heard...

There is no way that a job interview with Notre Dame will last a month. We will know within then next week or two if Kelly is the guy.

[Tex]

as much as i would love McCoy to win it he wont. he didnt put up the last bit of numbers that he needed against the huskers. Ingram did plenty against the swamp lizards. hell gerhart was great this year too.

[Alex The Great]

if I throw enough money at the NCAA, can I get a bowl named whatever I want?? I want the "Super Lazer Awesome Bowl"
Mine would be ''Super Fun Alex Funland Dollars Bowl''

[El_Citrus]

I just don't think he's had that big of a year..he's not even the best quarterback in the SEC, much less a Heisman finalist IMO. They put him in there just because he's Tim Tebow.

But then again, the Heisman has been a joke for awhile now, so I don't even really care.

Exactly, and he choked worse in his Championship game than McCoy did.

The Heisman has been a joke basically this entire decade, when they decided to start giving it to the best player out of the two National Title Game contenders instead of the best college football player.

[StorminNorman]

as much as i would love McCoy to win it he wont. he didnt put up the last bit of numbers that he needed against the huskers. Ingram did plenty against the swamp lizards. hell gerhart was great this year too.

McCoy will win it because it will be a Career Achievement award.

Neither Ingram or McCoy deserve it, though.

[StorminNorman]

Also the fact that C.J. Spiller, the player who deserves the Heisman, isn't in the top 5 is ridiculous.

[Venom'sDad]

^ Agree

[Excel]

Tebow over Spiller?

HUH-WHAT!

[Addendum]

Mine would be ''Super Fun Alex Funland Dollars Bowl''

Mine would be "Mega Sure Action Go Time Lucky Day of the Bowl"

[TMC1982]

http://www.fangsbites.com/2009/12/espns-gonna-bowl-you-over.html

BCS National Championship Game Highlights Schedule of 30 College Football Bowl Games across ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN Radio and ESPN360.com




BCS National Championship to be Called by Musburger, Herbstreit, Salters & Rinaldi on ABC and Tirico, Gruden, Blackledge & Nix on ESPN Radio; ESPN Radio to Broadcast 18 Games Including Entire BCS


ESPN’s college football bowl schedule -- featuring 30 games across ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN Radio and ESPN360.com -- will be highlighted by the BCS National Championship Game (No. 2 Texas vs. No. 1 Alabama) from the Rose Bowl Thursday, Jan. 7, at 8 p.m. ET on ABC and ESPN Radio. In addition to the National Championship, ABC and ESPN Radio will broadcast the Rose Bowl Game Presented by Citi (No. 8 Ohio State vs. No. 7 Oregon) Friday, Jan. 1.


ESPN and ESPN2 will televise 24 bowl games, highlighted by Bowl Week, one of ESPN’s most-viewed weeks of the year, from Dec. 19-Jan. 2. ESPN360.com will simulcast every ESPN and ESPN2 telecast while ESPN Radio will broadcast 18 bowl games, including all five BCS matchups. For the first time, ESPN will televise the Texas Bowl on Thursday, Dec. 31, at 3:30 p.m.


Beginning next season, ESPN will televise all five BCS games – including the National Championship Game – as the result of an agreement with the BCS. It will include the Fiesta, Orange and Sugar bowls each season and the BCS National Championship Game in 2011, 2012 and 2013. Through a separate agreement, ESPN will also televise the Rose Bowl Game beginning in 2011.



Coverage will kick off with an ESPN doubleheader Saturday, Dec. 19: the New Mexico Bowl (Fresno State vs. Wyoming) at 4:30 p.m. and the St. Petersburg Bowl (UCF vs. Rutgers) at 8 p.m. Highlights include:




Twenty-seven games on ABC, ESPN and ESPN2, all offered in high definition on ABC HD, ESPN HD and ESPN2 HD. ABC will televise two New Year’s Day bowl games: the Capital One Bowl (No. 13 Penn State vs. No. 12 LSU) at 1 p.m., followed by the Rose Bowl (No. 8 Ohio State vs. No. 7 Oregon) at 4:30 p.m. ABC will also televise the BCS National Championship (No. 2 Texas vs. No. 1 Alabama) Thursday, Jan. 7, at 8 p.m.




ESPN360.com will offer a live simulcast of every ESPN and ESPN2 game as well as ABC telecasts of the National Championship, Rose Bowl and Capital One Bowl on short turnaround (2:30 a.m. ET on the morning of the games).




ESPN Radio will broadcast 18 bowl games, including all five BCS matchups, highlighted by the BCS National Championship game (Thursday, Jan. 7, at 8 p.m.).




ESPNU will offer encore presentations of 25 bowl games and two bowl preview shows.




ESPN.com will offer a special bowl section with previews of each game as well as a fantasy bowl application.




ESPN Classic will offer encore presentations of 25 memorable games in six days.




ESPN, ESPN360.com and ESPN Radio will offer coverage of all six ESPN Regional Television owned-and-operated bowl games: the New Mexico Bowl and St. Petersburg Bowl Saturday, Dec. 19, at 4:30 p.m. and 8 p.m., respectively; Las Vegas Bowl Tuesday, Dec. 22, at 8 p.m.; Hawaii Bowl Thursday, Dec. 24, at 8 p.m.; Armed Forces Bowl Thursday, Dec. 31, at noon; and Papajohns.com Bowl Saturday, Jan. 2, at 2 p.m.



ESPN will utilize 59 on-air personalities to cover the 30 bowl games, highlights include:




ESPN on ABC Saturday Night Football commentators Brent Musburger, Kirk Herbstreit and Lisa Salters will work the BCS National Championship on Jan. 7 and the Rose Bowl on ABC on Jan. 1. Reporter Tom Rinaldi will join them for the National Championship. ESPN Monday Night Football announcer Mike Tirico and analyst Jon Gruden will call ESPN Radio’s broadcast of both, with analyst Todd Blackledge joining them for the Championship game.




Commentator Bob Wischusen will work games with a father/son duo, calling a game with analyst Bob Griese and two with Bob’s son Brian Griese.




Brian Griese, in his first year as an analyst, will join his father, veteran analyst Bob Griese, as both work the Outback Bowl but in different booths. Bob will call the game for ESPN and Brian for ESPN Radio.




The overtime award will go to Bill Rosinski, Dennis Franchione and Joe Schad, who will call six games for ESPN Radio.

[Immortalfire]

Thank God...no more horrible coverage by Fox

[BlackLantern]

more Lisa Salters is good for everyone

[Immortalfire]

Exactly, and he choked worse in his Championship game than McCoy did.

The Heisman has been a joke basically this entire decade, when they decided to start giving it to the best player out of the two National Title Game contenders instead of the best college football player.

Yeah, they claim it's for the The most outstanding player in collegiate football...but for years now it's just been the flashiest QB or RB with the best numbers.

[El_Citrus]

Yeah, they claim it's for the The most outstanding player in collegiate football...but for years now it's just been the flashiest QB or RB with the best numbers.

I don't have too much of a problem with the award being exclusive to QB's and RB's this decade, since when you look at the entire list of winners, only TWO are Defensive Ends, TWO are Wide Receivers, and only ONE is a Cornerback. The rest of them are Full/Half/Quarter and Running Backs (For 10 years in the 70's and 80's, the trophy went to ONLY Running Backs).

My main problem with the Heisman, especially this decade, is that they feel the need to give the trophy to someone in the National Title game. Eight out of the nine trophy winners this decade were on teams that were playing in the NC game a couple weeks later (The exception being Tebow), and it doesn't look like it's going to change this year.

The Heisman Trophy has always been about the best QB or RB with rare exceptions, but at least it wasn't completely about who was the best player playing in the NC game, which it has become this decade.

[Raiden]

Kriegel: Weis' Parting Shots (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/10492208/Hey-Charlie,-one-parting-shot-deserves-another)

Weis is a fking idiot.

[BlackLantern]

Weis is just mad he can't live in Malibu and **** a USC grad student

[Darthphere]

So am I.

[BlackLantern]

he got stuck on South Bend, Indiana....what is there to **** in Indiana??

[Immortalfire]

Kriegel: Weis' Parting Shots (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/10492208/Hey-Charlie,-one-parting-shot-deserves-another)

Weis is a fking idiot.

Oh lord :whatever:

[RAMORE]

Well I as a Hurricane fan you would have thought I would enjoy seeing Florida go do down but I didn't for 3 reasons: 1 I like all FL schools to do well unless they are playing us:) 2 I'm a fan of perfection it would have been cool to see them go all the way, 3 I like Tebow and that poor guy gave them every chance to win.

I haven't seen so many dropped balls and one arm tackles in my life! :eek:

I'm not taking anything away from Alabama the way they came out and shook it up at the beginning was the way to shake Florida but they should have recovered. Also McElroy had the freaking game of his life!

I really thought FL's D was gonna win the game not Tebow but they didn't show and I honestly feel bad for the guy and wish him well.

Ps. I won't be mad if he wins the Heisman this year because they stole it last year and he had great numbers just not superman Tebow numbers.

[Marx]

Reports are suggesting that Brian Kelly is the new head coach of Notre Dame. :csad:

[BlackLantern]

did people think anyone else would get the job??

[Immortalfire]

I too figured he'd be the one.

[StorminNorman]

I always doubted it because I expected ND would spend more time...you know...actually doing research.

Brian Kelly is not the best hire they could have made.

[Immortalfire]

Kinda reminds me of Auburn after they showed Tuberville the door...they barely did any searching.

[Excel]

Fire wtf is the deal with AJ Green? How bad was he hurt?

[BlackLantern]

they wanted a head coach who is going to do as the AD and the ND administration says...any other head coach wouldn't agree to be their puppet

[Immortalfire]

Fire wtf is the deal with AJ Green? How bad was he hurt?

Shoulder sprain, not serious..but they didn't want to risk anything worse to him with the season virtually at it's end point at the time.

[StorminNorman]

Kinda reminds me of Auburn after they showed Tuberville the door...they barely did any searching.

Tuberville would look amazing at LSU.

[Dr. Evil]

Has Kansas found someone to replace Mangino and his massive girth?

[Immortalfire]

Word on the street was Houston Nutt was interested in Kansas, but he's quickly shot that rumor down.

[Zephyr Alexian]

Has Kansas found someone to replace Mangino and his massive girth?

here (http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-12-05/turner-gill-reportedly-lead-candidate-for-kansas-coaching-job)


Buffalo coach Turner Gill is the leading candidate for the open coaching job at Kansas, ABC broadcaster Brent Musburger said during the second half of the Big 12 (http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-12-05/turner-gill-reportedly-lead-candidate-for-kansas-coaching-job#) championship game between Texas and Nebraska.
During CBS's pregame show leading into the Alabama-Florida SEC title game, Tony Barnhardt said that Gill would interview at Kansas on Sunday. Gill, a former quarterback at Nebraska, has a 20-30 record in four seasons at Buffalo, including a Mid-American Conference championship (http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-12-05/turner-gill-reportedly-lead-candidate-for-kansas-coaching-job#) in 2008.
Gill has a daughter who attends Kansas and has been mentioned as a potential candidate, but earlier in the week said he had not yet been contacted by anyone at KU.
"I think there are only a few schools where I would be interested, and if they're interested in me I would evaluate it and go from there," Gill told the Buffalo News. On Saturday the newspaper was unable to reach Gill or Buffalo athletic (http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-12-05/turner-gill-reportedly-lead-candidate-for-kansas-coaching-job#) director Warde Manuel.
Some of the other potential candidates talked about for the Jayhawks job, vacated when Mark Mangino resigned, include Southern Mississippi coach Larry Fedora, Houston's Kevin Sumlin, East Carolina's Skip Holtz, Stanford's Jim Harbaughhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif (http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-12-05/turner-gill-reportedly-lead-candidate-for-kansas-coaching-job#), Texas A&M offensive coordinator Nolan Cromwell and former Tennessee coach Phil Fulmer.
Fedora and Houston have been assistant coaches in the Big 12. Kansas athletic director Lew Perkins hired Holtz at Connecticut. The man whom Perkins hired to replace Holtz, Randy Edsallhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif (http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-12-05/turner-gill-reportedly-lead-candidate-for-kansas-coaching-job#), also could has come up in speculation about a successor to Mangino.
Speculation about Harbaugh was ignited when he made a home visit to a recruit in the Kansas City area earlier this week.

[StorminNorman]

Word on the street was Houston Nutt was interested in Kansas, but he's quickly shot that rumor down.

Nutt does have Big 12 history, but there is no way he would leave the SEC for Kansas.

Does sound like Charlie Strong may be headed to Louisville. He will likely bring some Gator coaches with him.

[Dr. Evil]

Well, whoever Kansas hires as their next coach, they won't be as big as a house, that's for certain.

[Alex The Great]

Mine would be "Mega Sure Action Go Time Lucky Day of the Bowl"
haha, another one of mine would be ''Flying Ninjas with Lazers Bowl''

[Kaiser]

I always doubted it because I expected ND would spend more time...you know...actually doing research.

Brian Kelly is not the best hire they could have made.

Uhhhhhhh............. yes he is. :doh:

[Immortalfire]

Lane Kiffin is under investigation for being a pimp.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-ncaa-tennesseerecruiting&prov=ap&type=lgns

The NCAA is investigating Tennessee’s football recruiting practices, including the use of hostesses to attract top players, The New York Times reported on its Web site Wednesday.

The NCAA has met with four prospects and is expected to talk to two more this week, The Times reported.

Tennessee athletic director Mike Hamilton told the newspaper an investigation was ongoing, but did not provide any details.

Marcus Lattimore, a high school running back, told The Times several hostesses came to a game in South Carolina and brought signs including one that read, “Come to Tennessee.”

The hostesses are considered representatives of the university and are not allowed to recruit players off campus. The visits could be considered violations of NCAA rules. Hostesses? What the puck..

[FaT_tONle]

If that's true, Kiffin is a disgrace and needs to be banned for life on all levels of football... only after I try out for the Vols though.

[BlackLantern]

I read about that on Deadspin...sounds interesting...but apparently it's a practice that has been in place for some time (before Kiffin even got to Tennesse) so put the pitchfork away, Tonie

[Immortalfire]

Guns and hookers..sounds like Knoxville is the place to be!

[Mister J]

House Subcommittee OKs College Playoff Bill (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4727426)

WASHINGTON -- A House subcommittee approved legislation Wednesday aimed at forcing college football to switch to a playoff system to determine a national champion, over the objections of some lawmakers who said Congress had more pressing matters on its plate.

The bill, which faces long odds of becoming law, would ban the promotion of a postseason NCAA Division I football game as a national championship unless that title contest is the result of a playoff. The measure passed by voice vote in a House Energy and Commerce Committee subcommittee, with one audible "no," from Rep. John Barrow, D-Ga.

"With all due respect, I really think we have more important things to spend our time on," Barrow said before the vote, although he stressed he didn't like the current Bowl Championship Series, either.

The bill's sponsor, GOP Rep. Joe Barton of Texas, said the BCS system is unfair and won't change unless prompted by Congress.

The vote came three days after the BCS selections were announced, including the Jan. 7 national title game between No. 1 Alabama and No. 2 Texas.

In a statement before the vote, BCS executive director Bill Hancock said, "With all the serious matters facing our country, surely Congress has more important issues than spending taxpayer money to dictate how college football is played."

The subcommittee chairman, Rep. Bobby Rush, an Illinois Democrat who co-sponsored the bill, said, "We can walk and chew gum at the same time."
Eh. Nice sentiment, but there'll be a healthy fight before the fatcats let their cash cow go the way of the Dodo.

[VampElvis]

Fire,

I've heard rumors of Tubberville go to GA as a DC/ head coach in waiting with the agreement Richt leaves in two years as, supposedly, he wants to do something in the missions field. Sounds quite laughable, but I am serious I've heard these rumors.

Comments?

[StorminNorman]

Uhhhhhhh............. yes he is. :doh:

No. He really isn't.

Lane Kiffin is under investigation for being a pimp.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-ncaa-tennesseerecruiting&prov=ap&type=lgns

Hostesses? What the puck..

I love Lane Kiffin.

House Subcommittee OKs College Playoff Bill (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4727426)

Eh. Nice sentiment, but there'll be a healthy fight before the fatcats let their cash cow go the way of the Dodo.

I am not so sure because their cash crop would make MORE money with a playoff system. The increased finical intake is the biggest reason why I still believe the playoff system will eventually happen.

[StorminNorman]

Fire,

I've heard rumors of Tubberville go to GA as a DC/ head coach in waiting with the agreement Richt leaves in two years as, supposedly, he wants to do something in the missions field. Sounds quite laughable, but I am serious I've heard these rumors.

Comments?

Ignore them.

[Immortalfire]

Fire,

I've heard rumors of Tubberville go to GA as a DC/ head coach in waiting with the agreement Richt leaves in two years as, supposedly, he wants to do something in the missions field. Sounds quite laughable, but I am serious I've heard these rumors.

Comments?

I've heard em too. They're 100% bull.

[BlackLantern]

ya..I don't see Richt leaving Georgia anytime soon

[Mister J]

I am not so sure because their cash crop would make MORE money with a playoff system. The increased finical intake is the biggest reason why I still believe the playoff system will eventually happen.
No doubt it'd make more money overall. My belief is that the lack of control of where that money goes is what would dissuade them from championing change.

Outside of forced intervention, someone is going to have to show a concrete plan for a lucrative structure that still has the BCS conferences getting their bellies scratched first with guaranteed (and likely unequal) payouts before they even think about changing the system. Too much power to give up.

[VampElvis]

I couldn't see any truth in them either, I was curious if they'd gotten in play in GA.

I DO think Tubs does want to coach again, and I think UGA would be a good fit for him - but I don't see him doing anything like that rumor detailed. He's not a second fiddle type of guy.

I don't know if Richt would want to leave, but I think he's gonna have to win bigger in the next few years than he has in the past few of there will be some grumblings - deserved or not.

[StorminNorman]

No doubt it'd make more money overall. My belief is that the lack of control of where that money goes is what would dissuade them from championing change.

Outside of forced intervention, someone is going to have to show a concrete plan for a lucrative structure that still has the BCS conferences getting their bellies scratched first with guaranteed (and likely unequal) payouts before they even think about changing the system. Too much power to give up.

BCS conferences would be guaranteed to get their bellies scratched first simply due to the fact that most of the teams in any sort of play off system will ALWAYS be BCS conference teams.

That's what make this BCS stupidity so baffling, the BCS is putting loyalty to it's system ABOVE increasing profits.

I couldn't see any truth in them either, I was curious if they'd gotten in play in GA.

I DO think Tubs does want to coach again, and I think UGA would be a good fit for him - but I don't see him doing anything like that rumor detailed. He's not a second fiddle type of guy.

I don't know if Richt would want to leave, but I think he's gonna have to win bigger in the next few years than he has in the past few of there will be some grumblings - deserved or not.

Richt is going to have to make a championship in the next 3 years.

[Parker Wayne]

ya..I don't see Richt leaving Georgia anytime soon


Richt is going to have to make a championship in the next 3 years.

I believe Georgia can recover, but I do agree that Richt needs to start getting to the National Championship game and start winning the big one.

[Mister J]

Source: Irish Interested in UConn's Randy Edsall (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4728474)
One day after a source familiar with the Notre Dame coaching search said things were "heating up" with Cincinnati coach Brian Kelly, another coach has emerged.

There is mutual interest between Notre Dame and Connecticut coach Randy Edsall, another source said Wednesday.

Edsall is a solid defensive mind who showed great leadership on the Connecticut campus in the wake of the tragic death of player Jasper Howard.

The Huskies also beat Notre Dame this season.

On Tuesday, Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh reiterated that he had no scheduled meetings with Notre Dame. And Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz, also mentioned as a possible candidate, said he had not had any discussions with representatives for the Irish.
BL is going to serve up a gem of disdain on this one. I can feel it. :hyper:

[StorminNorman]

Source: Irish Interested in UConn's Randy Edsall (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4728474)
BL is going to serve up a gem of disdain on this one. I can feel it. :hyper:

I still think Skip Holtz would be the best fit for the Irish, but I would much rather see Edsall go than Kelly.

[BlackLantern]

I read that this evening....Randy Edsall has been the Huskies coach for quite a while now and I really don't think he would leave for Notre Dame, but it's probably the most prestigious job in college football and as much as I want to be mad if he does leave, I'm not sure how I would feel

[El_Citrus]

Looks like Notre Dame is resorting to the old mantra of "If you can't beat em, throw tons of money at them and take their head coach away so he can have mediorce success with a highly overrated and below average football program only to fire him three to five years later", regarding their interest in Harbaugh and Edsall.

[Kaiser]

No. He really isn't.



I love Lane Kiffin.



I am not so sure because their cash crop would make MORE money with a playoff system. The increased finical intake is the biggest reason why I still believe the playoff system will eventually happen.

Yes. He is.

[rdh007]

http://notredame.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1027235

To hell with Notre Dame[/Bo], and now, to hell with Brian Kelly.

[Tex]

anyone watching the awards show? my boy McCoy has got two so far. toby g beat out ingram and spiller for best running back. pretty interesting stuff.

[Dr. Evil]

What is Toby Gerhart's draft status anyways?

[Immortalfire]

Supposedly he's going to declare, or already has.

[StorminNorman]

Toby is going Pro. Once season hype wears off, he will be a third round pick.

Drew Butler won the Ray Guy award.

McCoy won Maxwell (Best Offensive Player), Walter Camp (Player of the Year) and O'Brien (Best QB).

Gerhart won Doak Walker (Best RB).

Golden Tate and Aaron Hernadez won Best WR and TE awards.

Suh dominated the Lombardi, Outland, Bednarik and Nagurski.

Eric Berry won the Jim Thorpe Award (Best DB) and Rolando McClain won Butkus (Best LB).

Kirby Smart won Best Coordinator while Brian Kelly was the Best Coach.

[Tex]

i guess ingram will just have to settle for the Heisman since he didn't any of the other awards he was a finalist for. seems weird.

[Marx]

Brian Kelly's decision makes me sick. I can understand 'following your dream', but...

[BlackLantern]

Brian Kelly's decision makes me sick. I can understand 'following your dream', but...

completely...when I heard he got the job, I was like "ok, its been his dream and he'll finish up with Cincy in a bowl game and move on" and then I heard he was leaving the team immediately and I was like....

Douche. Bag.

[Immortalfire]

My thoughts exactly, BL..when I saw he won't coach in the Sugar Bowl. Gotta make Cincy's guys feel good, right? Knowing they were apparently nothing more than a stepping stone for Kelly's "dream". :whatever:

[Marx]

completely...when I heard he got the job, I was like "ok, its been his dream and he'll finish up with Cincy in a bowl game and move on" and then I heard he was leaving the team immediately and I was like....

Douche. Bag.

My thoughts exactly, BL..when I saw he won't coach in the Sugar Bowl. Gotta make Cincy's guys feel good, right? Knowing they were apparently nothing more than a stepping stone for Kelly's "dream". :whatever:

Exactly. It's one thing to leave for another job after the bowl, but to abandon the team before the bowl... :cmad:

[Mister J]

It was a pretty ****ty move; just hauling ass like that. The want for a higher profile gig with more resources/greater challenge/whatever is understandable, but showing up to the team awards banquet, saying 'It was real' and peacing out is douchetastic.

Have enough respect for your guys to finish out the season ...or give the administration the opportunity the chance to say 'no thanks' and fire your soon-to-be-shamrock-loving ass.

As if I needed another reason to root against Notre Dame. :awesome:

[Immortalfire]

J, you have such a unique way of putting things..I am in awe

:bow:

[El_Citrus]

I feel for the Cincy players. It ripped my guts out as a Mountaineers fan to watch RichFraud go stand on the sidenline during Michigan's bowl game after abandoning WVU (If you ask me, he abandoned WVU in the Backyard Brawl as well). It's always sickening to watch a coach basically abandon their team right before the biggest game of their lives.

It's unfortunate that recruiting gets so heavy during these few weeks, since college's need their coach now and that coach potentially has a big bowl game on the horizon. Is it possible to postpone ANY recruiting/committments until after the bowl games?

One potential upside for Cincy though is to look at the same Mountaineers I mentioned earlier. Abandoned by RichFraud going into the Fiesta bowl, WVU stepped up and beat down the Sooners WITHOUT him, and it looks like the Cincy seniors are stepping up to be the leaders this team needs.

[BlackLantern]

I expect that Cincy team to be madder than Rosie O'Donnell when she's out of Twinkies when they hit the field

[El_Citrus]

I expect that Cincy team to be madder than Rosie O'Donnell when she's out of Twinkies when they hit the field

Madder than Tiger Woods running out of new courses to use his putter?

[StorminNorman]

Brian Kelly's decision makes me sick. I can understand 'following your dream', but...

completely...when I heard he got the job, I was like "ok, its been his dream and he'll finish up with Cincy in a bowl game and move on" and then I heard he was leaving the team immediately and I was like....

Douche. Bag.

My thoughts exactly, BL..when I saw he won't coach in the Sugar Bowl. Gotta make Cincy's guys feel good, right? Knowing they were apparently nothing more than a stepping stone for Kelly's "dream". :whatever:

It was a pretty ****ty move; just hauling ass like that. The want for a higher profile gig with more resources/greater challenge/whatever is understandable, but showing up to the team awards banquet, saying 'It was real' and peacing out is douchetastic.

Have enough respect for your guys to finish out the season ...or give the administration the opportunity the chance to say 'no thanks' and fire your soon-to-be-shamrock-loving ass.

As if I needed another reason to root against Notre Dame. :awesome:

What else can the guy do?

Notre Dame offered him a whole lot more money, a much better college and a much better opportunity. Loyalty is important, but this is the man's livelihood - the man's career. There is no way you can agree to be Notre Dame's coach and then spend a month coaching at Cincinnati while also taking care of Notre Dame. You can't do it.

Notre Dame couldn't hire Brian Kelly if he wasn't going to be able to work for the school until after the Sugar Bowl. You can't afford to put in place a coaching staff after January first while still trying to recruit and find coaches and all of that. Can't do it.

You also can't coach Cincinnati while coaching Notre Dame. You can't sit in Cincinnati, while calling up coaches and players to recruit for Notre Dame and asking the responsibilities of two colleges to be placed upon his shoulders isn't fair either.

Does it suck for Cincinnati's players? Of course.

Does it suck for Brian Kelly? Yea. It's requires you to assume Brian Kelly is inhuman to believe that Brian Kelly ISN'T disappointed that he won't be able to coach HIS kids in the bowl game.

But you can't ask a man to give up a better career, a better life, a better paycheck all in the name of a month in a game that doesn't matter.

You can call him an *******, but it's unfair to do so. This is a man doing the best he can in a complex situation.

[Excel]

Cinci players were crying when he did the same thing to his previous job to come coach them. Its life.

[rdh007]

What else can the guy do?

Notre Dame offered him a whole lot more money, a much better college and a much better opportunity. Loyalty is important, but this is the man's livelihood - the man's career. There is no way you can agree to be Notre Dame's coach and then spend a month coaching at Cincinnati while also taking care of Notre Dame. You can't do it.

Notre Dame couldn't hire Brian Kelly if he wasn't going to be able to work for the school until after the Sugar Bowl. You can't afford to put in place a coaching staff after January first while still trying to recruit and find coaches and all of that. Can't do it.

You also can't coach Cincinnati while coaching Notre Dame. You can't sit in Cincinnati, while calling up coaches and players to recruit for Notre Dame and asking the responsibilities of two colleges to be placed upon his shoulders isn't fair either.

Does it suck for Cincinnati's players? Of course.

Does it suck for Brian Kelly? Yea. It's requires you to assume Brian Kelly is inhuman to believe that Brian Kelly ISN'T disappointed that he won't be able to coach HIS kids in the bowl game.

But you can't ask a man to give up a better career, a better life, a better paycheck all in the name of a month in a game that doesn't matter.

You can call him an *******, but it's unfair to do so. This is a man doing the best he can in a complex situation.

Agreed 100%.

Though, as a Michigan fan, I reserve the right to also agree with (and quote) Bo Schembechler when he said: "To Hell with Notre Dame." Therefore, by extension, I say: To hell with Brian Kelly.

Lastly, one must wonder how this would be different if Cincinnati were playing for a championship and if that mere fact has anything to do with his taking the gig.

[Immortalfire]

Blah Blah Blah

Norman is born to disagree with everyone else.


Hype Member: Water is wet.
Norman: No it isn't.

[signalman]

Army-Navy game on CBS today at 1:30 CST.
GO NAVY!!!

[Darthphere]

What else can the guy do?

Notre Dame offered him a whole lot more money, a much better college and a much better opportunity. Loyalty is important, but this is the man's livelihood - the man's career. There is no way you can agree to be Notre Dame's coach and then spend a month coaching at Cincinnati while also taking care of Notre Dame. You can't do it.

Notre Dame couldn't hire Brian Kelly if he wasn't going to be able to work for the school until after the Sugar Bowl. You can't afford to put in place a coaching staff after January first while still trying to recruit and find coaches and all of that. Can't do it.

You also can't coach Cincinnati while coaching Notre Dame. You can't sit in Cincinnati, while calling up coaches and players to recruit for Notre Dame and asking the responsibilities of two colleges to be placed upon his shoulders isn't fair either.

Does it suck for Cincinnati's players? Of course.

Does it suck for Brian Kelly? Yea. It's requires you to assume Brian Kelly is inhuman to believe that Brian Kelly ISN'T disappointed that he won't be able to coach HIS kids in the bowl game.

But you can't ask a man to give up a better career, a better life, a better paycheck all in the name of a month in a game that doesn't matter.

You can call him an *******, but it's unfair to do so. This is a man doing the best he can in a complex situation.

Yeah because this is the first time it's ever happened where a coach gets another job before a bowl game. Urban Meyer was able to do it. Mike Price did it. It can be done.

[BlackLantern]

GO NAVY!!!

I'd only agree with Norman in the sense that Notre Dame probably said "take the job now or we look for someone else"

[VampElvis]

Yeah because this is the first time it's ever happened where a coach gets another job before a bowl game. Urban Meyer was able to do it. Mike "It's Rollin' Baby!!" Price did it. It can be done.

Here let me fix that up for you. Give it a little pizz-azz.

[Darthphere]

Thanks, yeah that post did need a little spicing up.

[VampElvis]

Works best if you're in the Southeast and know the back story..........

[Darthphere]

I'm from Miami.

[Mister J]

Good ol' Make It Rain Mike Price.

[StorminNorman]

Norman is born to disagree with everyone else.


Hype Member: Water is wet.
Norman: No it isn't.

It's difficult being so right all the time.

Yeah because this is the first time it's ever happened where a coach gets another job before a bowl game. Urban Meyer was able to do it. Mike Price did it. It can be done.

Most coaches that are hired before a bowl game either leave or mail in the bowl performance. It's more fair to Cincinnati for Kelly to get out of there and rally behind a coach that can stand in front of the team.

[Excel]

Chris Fowler to the crowd: "No running back has won the Heisman this decade".

How did you possibly forget Reggie Bush?

[Immortalfire]

Did he really say that? :dry:

[Dr. Evil]

Mark Ingram wins the Heisman.

[Dr. Evil]

Edit.

[BlackLantern]

congrats to Mark Ingram

[Byrd Man]

Eric Crouch = so far, the only Heisman Trophy Winner of this decade not playing football anywhere.

I thought Jason White the OK QB washed out of the NFL because of bum knees?

[Dr. Evil]

Surprised it took this long for a Bama player to win the Heisman. I'm curious to see what his NFL chances will be in 2011.

[Dr. Evil]

I thought Jason White the OK QB washed out of the NFL because of bum knees?

Yeah, I deleted it since I forgot about him.

[Immortalfire]

Congrats to Ingram :up:

[Cmill216]

Chris Fowler to the crowd: "No running back has won the Heisman this decade".

How did you possibly forget Reggie Bush?

....Well, technically, he's right. :hehe:

[Excel]

He reminds me a bit of Mike Tyson.