Should Superman to be the sole survivor of Krypton?

[Lane & Kent]

If they revamped the movie franchise, should Superman to be the sole survivor of Krypton?

I think he should. What do you guys think.

[Changeling]

Yes...
That would be reeeealllyyy stupid if he wasnt.

[Changeling]

For a movie anyway...

[Webhead2006]

yea it would be nice if he is the only kryptonian around, though leave it open for maybe kara and/or city of kandor to show up to spice things up in a future movie.

[FilmNerdJamie]

If they revamped the movie franchise, should Superman to be the sole survivor of Krypton?

Absolutely.

[solidsnake86]

Umm yes and no. I would like to see the phantom zone criminals in a future series because I think it would make a compelling story about earths views on superman when prisoners from his planet are released. I also think it would be an excellent story to reintroduce lex luthor and position him as metropolis's saviour/ getting on there good side.

[manofsteel4life]

that would be an awesome approach solid http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[solidsnake86]

Thanks, I think its ridiculously easy to come up with a good superman trilogy using brainiac, the phantom zone criminals and luthor with metallo/ parasite. Using those villains could actually give superman a challenge and I think audiences would respond to it. But thats just me, either way I think he should be the sole survivor of the good people on krypton for the movies.

[Webhead2006]

that could work out very nicely solidsnake.

[Mulanzo]

In terms of surviving the direct explosion of the planet, yeah, Clark should be the last survivor.

The option to have the Phantom Zone criminals, Kandor, and Kara should be left open however. They all left Krypton before the planet was destroyed. Well...maybe not Kara...but Superman can be the last Son of Krypton. She's the last Daughter.

[Nightwing1977]

If they revamped the movie franchise, should Superman to be the sole survivor of Krypton?



You betcha. There is a reason why he is usually refer as "The Last Son of Krypton". Keep it that way. :up:

[TruerToTheCore]

No, doesn't need to be.

[Man of Tomorrow]

He should and will.

I think the only other possible survivor of Krypton we'll see is Brainiac; an artificial lifeform.

Although, there's also a good chance Brainiac may not be linked to Krypton at all for the film.


I don't think we'll see Kara/Supergirl in the movies, thank goodness.

[Lane & Kent]

He should and will.



I think the only other possible survivor of Krypton we'll see is Brainiac; an artificial lifeform.



Although, there's also a good chance Brainiac may not be linked to Krypton at all for the film.





I don't think we'll see Kara/Supergirl in the movies, thank goodness.


Agreed

You betcha. There is a reason why he is usually refer as "The Last Son of Krypton". Keep it that way. :up:

Agreed

[Man of Tomorrow]

The other thing is I think it's unlikely we'll see Zod and the Phantom Zone criminals in the new films.

Bryan was under enough heat for the Donner stuff. It's really not what the new franchaise needs.

Even Singer, Mike and Dan said they wouldn't have done Zod for their sequel (Mike and Dan pitched Brainiac, Darkseid and Corperate Lex).

[Mulanzo]

I wouldn't count them out completely. If they reboot, their story is important enough to Kryptonian history that they might at the very least get a casual mention, opening them up for an appearance in a later film. Zod is a good villain because he has a personal vendetta against the house of El and not many villains in Superman's rogue gallery have that depth of involvement.

I could see them perhaps making a new Supergirl film as well. Superman would be a good way of introducing the idea that maybe another Kryptonian from his family survived. In her movie it would open up a spot for cameo appearances and allow for DC Universe wide cohesiveness which I think DC wants to copy from Marvels movies.

I wouldn't totally exclude the possibility that he wasn't the last survivor. That part of Superman's history has been overlooked since the 50s.

[Webhead2006]

true we just have to wait and see how things fold out.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I wouldn't count them out completely. If they reboot, their story is important enough to Kryptonian history that they might at the very least get a casual mention, opening them up for an appearance in a later film. Zod is a good villain because he has a personal vendetta against the house of El and not many villains in Superman's rogue gallery have that depth of involvement.

I just don't think WB would go for Zod as the type of supervillian they want at this point.

Heck, they don't even want Luthor in this one.

Brainiac's got the strongest chance.

I could see them perhaps making a new Supergirl film as well. Superman would be a good way of introducing the idea that maybe another Kryptonian from his family survived. In her movie it would open up a spot for cameo appearances and allow for DC Universe wide cohesiveness which I think DC wants to copy from Marvels movies.

Warners is having enough trouble from keeping their now dead Wonder Woman project from falling even further into production hell.

A Supergirl film is beyond unlikely; especially given how poorly the Helen Slater one did; I can't see WB realistically giving it a chance.

[Webhead2006]

yea and then there is studios thinking a female lead films are not good and wont make money.....

[Jochimus]

I have no problem with Superman being the sole survivor of Krypton, but that's mostly because there's still an easy way to bring in the Phantom Zone villains or even Supergirl without compromising that: just have the Phantom Zone villains be the sole surviving Kryptonians from a "mirror" universe (as with the first Post-Crisis version of Zod), and Supergirl be the sole survivor of Krypton's sister planet Argo (a la DCAU).

[Webhead2006]

yea there is many way they could go about including kara,and pz stuff.

[Silverstein]

Have a reboot but show baby Kal-El in his ship during the credits. And during this scene you could show two rockets being sent into space. The one rocket has a blonde girl who looks about 16, this rocket is hit by debris and knocked off course into the blackness of space.

"We", the camera, would continue to follow Clark and it would even show his father speaking to him through a recording. The recording isn't so much for Clark as it would be for whomever finds the rocket. And it loops over and over again. It would show a brief history of Krypton and there would be a clip of Zod and other prisoners being trapped in a parralel dimension.


This way we'd have him be the only "survivor", but it would leave enough openings for Supergirl, Zod, etc...

[Webhead2006]

that could work.

[Mulanzo]

I just don't think WB would go for Zod as the type of supervillian they want at this point.

Heck, they don't even want Luthor in this one.

Brainiac's got the strongest chance.

Fair enough....I just think it would be wise if they left the option open. If they said right off the bat that Superman was the last survivor, you have eliminated a whole bunch of potential storylines before the story has even begun, including a possible Supergirl movie if they ever decided to do it. I'd rather they be all encompassing and permit interpretation by scriptwriters than have them come up with all new villains like Nuclear Man when they realize all the good villains were eliminated before even being considered. I know, realistically they will use a villain like Brainiac before going back to Zod or Luthor, and I support that 100%... but I also think if you limit your options, you pigeon-hole yourself like they did with Superman Returns and the kid.

I'm all for Brainiac with Luthor in the background... I feel Luthor should never be out of the picture 100%. However, I would still love a movie with Zod if they made it different than Donners and compelling at the same time.

I would just hope they don't say specifically... Kal-El... you are the last. Zod died on Krypton as did Kara and any hope for encountering another Kryptonian. The Phantom Zone was destroyed as well. That to me would be bad karma.... Thats like saying...well... He was sent to earth in a rocket ship in the first movie... lets teleport him using Star Trek technology this time to be a little different. Even if a concept was used, it doesn't exclude its future use. Nor should it exclude its future use if you want to tell an accurate story.


Warners is having enough trouble from keeping their now dead Wonder Woman project from falling even further into production hell.

A Supergirl film is beyond unlikely; especially given how poorly the Helen Slater one did; I can't see WB realistically giving it a chance.

Well... The Supergirl movie was also a steaming pile of garbage... that probably didn't help. But if you put one of the girls in Maxims top 100 hottest girls list and advertise the movie to young adolescent males / females.. I think the movie could do well. An attractive girl in skin tight clothing sells. If there is a compelling story behind it, it sells better.

[NeoRanger]

Right off the bat, as far as I'm concerned, Superman should always be the only Kryptonian survivor.

Realistically, now, in the boundaries of a movie, they don't have to be specific at all. The story is about a dying planet and its last son. They'll go that way and find some hole to pull Supergirl in, should they decide to go with a Supergirl movie (and, hell, assuming it'll be a Kara Zor-El one).

As for Zod? The Phantom Zone is a whole different beast.

[Mulanzo]

Right off the bat, as far as I'm concerned, Superman should always be the only Kryptonian survivor.

Realistically, now, in the boundaries of a movie, they don't have to be specific at all. The story is about a dying planet and its last son. They'll go that way and find some hole to pull Supergirl in, should they decide to go with a Supergirl movie (and, hell, assuming it'll be a Kara Zor-El one).

As for Zod? The Phantom Zone is a whole different beast.

Well you should qualify that then.... If you say last Kryptonian survivor than that means Zod et al are gone. It means the bottled city of Kandor does not exist. It means Kara dies on Krypton. It means a whole bunch of potential stories you can tell are gone. If you say last son of Krypton then it works better because he was just born at the time of destruction. In the comics for over 50 years, he has not been the last Kryptonian survivor. He was just the last son of Krypton.

If they have to go back and find a hole to allow Kara to exist then it means the original story had a plot hole and it means the original story was weak. Id rather they just acknowledge the possibility that there were other survivors even if they don't say it outright. I think that is a better way to proceed..... A safer way to proceed.

[GreenKToo]

i've seen nor read anything that makes me think we'll get another Superman film anytime soon. It seems like he may be in development hell yet again.

But to answer your question, yeah, he should be ''it'' as far as Kryptonarians go..

[NeoRanger]

It's debatable how safer that is. If they do acknowledge the possibility, they flirt with hurting the appeal of the origin story. That's why I suggested not going into specifics at all. They show (or imply) the dying planet, the single shuttle going away, Superman for all he knows is the last of his race, until a storyline requires otherwise.

[Mulanzo]

It's debatable how safer that is. If they do acknowledge the possibility, they flirt with hurting the appeal of the origin story. That's why I suggested not going into specifics at all. They show (or imply) the dying planet, the single shuttle going away, Superman for all he knows is the last of his race, until a storyline requires otherwise.

Well, thats what I'm talking about. If they show the single shuttle and not mention him being the last kryptonian at all, then it is safe.

If they say... you are the last of our race... it is less safe.

In the opening scene, if they casually mention something like...

"My brother Zor-El and I have been working on propulsion technology incase of such an event"
or
"Since the disappearance of Kandor, Krypton has been in a state of panic"
or
"Now that Zod is safely in the Phantom Zone, Krypton can once again prosper under a unified council"

or something like that...
It leaves hooks for potential stories in the future. You don't have to tell a Zod escape story, or tell a Brainiac shrinking Metropolis story, or tell a discovery of Kara in a derelict shuttle floating in space story... but the option is there and if you don't tell those stories, atleast you've acknowledged real aspects of Superman canon. That would be a huge boon for fans who catch those nods and for non fans, it makes it seem like the world has been fleshed out and is richer than just what is told on the surface.

[SuperDaniel]

I actually don't want to see the Phantom Zone criminals again. Bring on Braniac, Doomsday, Darkseid, Metallo...

But to answer the question...YES!

[El Payaso]

It depends on the story and the treatment.

But Supergirl sounds awful to em.

[Silverstein]

It depends on the story and the treatment.

But Supergirl sounds awful to em.

I think Supergirl would be an awesome Justice LEague story. They'd do it almost exactly like the comic except instead of that lame ending, you could have Supergirl actually get hurt and Supes get pissed for real.

[Mulanzo]

I think Supergirl would be an awesome Justice LEague story. They'd do it almost exactly like the comic except instead of that lame ending, you could have Supergirl actually get hurt and Supes get pissed for real.

I agree if DC is aiming to make a cohesive DC universe with Routh and Bale as Superman and Batman (rather than their garbage Justice League Mortal with teenage Superman and Batman etc). Having the Supergirl story with Darkseid at the end would be amazing to see in live action. Plus it is a great way to introduce a new character to the DC Universe.

[Silverstein]

I agree if DC is aiming to make a cohesive DC universe with Routh and Bale as Superman and Batman (rather than their garbage Justice League Mortal with teenage Superman and Batman etc). Having the Supergirl story with Darkseid at the end would be amazing to see in live action. Plus it is a great way to introduce a new character to the DC Universe.


Yeah and Supergirl is well known by everyone. It'd be a better addition than someone like Vixen or someone that most people never heard of...

[Webhead2006]

would be nice to see supergirl make it on the screens again but first we need to get a more stable superman series going.

[Silverstein]

would be nice to see supergirl make it on the screens again but first we need to get a more stable superman series going.


Seriously, they need to just do "Superman Begins" before they can combine the series together.

One is this Art Deco fantasy that has a "cheating" Lois and deadbeat dad Supes...

And the other is this ultra realistic gritty story about a billionaire vigilante.

There should be a happy medium like the Superman Batman books

[p4poetic]

One of many Superman's well known titles is the Last son of Krypton. Some things you cannot change.

[Magneto]

Should Superman to be the sole survivor of Krypton?

Of course. This was established early on in the funny books, and I personally think the idea of him being the sole survivor of a dead planet makes him a bit more special. Which apparently DC once upon a time had an affinity for with the whole "Man of Steel" John Byrne reboot which re-instated this notion.

That's definately not the case anymore, but for a film series ... yes. I believe Supes should be the sole survivor. :up:

[Magneto]

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[El Payaso]

One of many Superman's well known titles is the Last son of Krypton. Some things you cannot change.

That's just a tag. There's been Kandor, Zod, Ursa and Non, Supergirl, once PowerGirl, etc.

[I Am The Knight]

It's debatable how safer that is. If they do acknowledge the possibility, they flirt with hurting the appeal of the origin story. That's why I suggested not going into specifics at all. They show (or imply) the dying planet, the single shuttle going away, Superman for all he knows is the last of his race, until a storyline requires otherwise.

Agreed.

[Mulanzo]

One of many Superman's well known titles is the Last son of Krypton. Some things you cannot change.

The Last Son of Krypton definitely does not imply the last Kryptonian.

It implies the last male child sired from a Kryptonian. That does not exclude Kara, Zod, Ursa, Non, or Kandor.

And as witness by the comics, he is definitely not the last Kryptonian hanging around. It has been that way since atleast the 50s with the appearance of Supergirl. I don't know if other Kryptonians popped up before then.

[Webhead2006]

yea and currently isnt there a kryptonian city on earth near the fos with thousands of kryptonians, i remember hearing something about that from you guys.

[Cool Monty]

If they revamped the movie franchise, should Superman to be the sole survivor of Krypton?

I'm torn. On the one hand, it can take away from the emotional layers of Superman if he isn't the last of his species. Yet, on the other hand, I see great things for a character like Zod (Preferably in the 3rd or 4th film) nowadays. My ideal Zod...the man that can play ANY character...Daniel Day-Lewis!

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00014/danieldaylewis_14672t.jpg

Though, I doubt he'd ever do a comic film.

[Webhead2006]

interesting choice for zod, though i agree he likely wouldnt do a comic book film unless he got a boat load of money or maybe he actually liked the script.

[Cool Monty]

interesting choice for zod, though i agree he likely wouldnt do a comic book film unless he got a boat load of money or maybe he actually liked the script.

Yeah, thanks. I mean you want a guy with a powerful voice, a commanding presence, and who can carry any villain role on his pinky...this is the guy.

And I even doubt a boat load of money would ever come before liking the script to Daniel.

[Webhead2006]

yea i agree a character like zod does need one of those commanding presence and voice to not be a joke. What nationality is daniel?

[Cool Monty]

yea i agree a character like zod does need one of those commanding presence and voice to not be a joke. What nationality is daniel?

English. But you'd never know it from his films. The guy can pick up and drop accents like grocery products. :woot:

[Webhead2006]

ah was just wondering in the pic he kinda had that mediteranian look.

[Cool Monty]

ah was just wondering in the pic he kinda had that mediteranian look.

What's the characteristics of that look, exactly? I'm curious. :woot:

[Webhead2006]

Umm i dont know.

[Silverstein]

Speaking of nationality, why are there no black, hispanic or asian kryptonians?

[Mulanzo]

Speaking of nationality, why are there no black, hispanic or asian kryptonians?

Uhm... realistically speaking.. it is unlikely Krypton diversified in race in the same way we did. They are also so advanced that it is likely any and all races have interbred so much that there is now one homogeneous race on Krypton, much like is proposed to happen on earth in the not to distant future when more races start interbreeding.

With that said, there are black Kryptonians in the comics...they just aren't that prominently displayed. You see them in the latest comics on New Krypton.


As for the Mediterranean look... I think classically it is described as someone with golden or tanned or olive colored skin with dark hair (usually curly or wavy) and light exotic looking eyes (green, light brown, or blue). It's in the features too... voluptuous features in women, chiseled look in men. Not all are necessary to make you mediterranean looking..but they are classical features.
A good example for a mediterranean looking female is Italian singer Anna Tatangelo (http://images.google.com/images?ndsp=18&hl=en&rls=en-us&q=anna+tatangelo&start=36&sa=N).

[Sam]

if they revamped the movie franchise, should superman to be the sole survivor of krypton?

I think he should. What do you guys think.

yes

[Angeloz]

Speaking of nationality, why are there no black, hispanic or asian kryptonians?

Dean Cain?

Angeloz

[Silverstein]

Dean Cain?

Touche'....

[Mulanzo]

Seriously... lol... That one just slipped my mind.

[I Am The Knight]

Dean Cain?

Angeloz

LOL.... :hehe:

[dru-zod2501]

no. It never made sense how out of the entire population of this "highly advanced and technological" civilization, only 1 made it out.

They don't have to explore any other survivors like Kandorians or Kara, just like Nolan doesn't want to bring in any partners for his Batman, but to categorically dismiss them as not existing at all is myopic IMO

[dru-zod2501]

yea and currently isnt there a kryptonian city on earth near the fos with thousands of kryptonians, i remember hearing something about that from you guys.
Kandor was restored on Earth, but now they've removed it and regrown a new Krypton on the opposite side of the Sun from Earth

[Webhead2006]

ah thanks dru i didnt know that, comics wise i only read marvel stuff.

[Young Superman]

Yes

[Crook]

Uhm... realistically speaking.. it is unlikely Krypton diversified in race in the same way we did. They are also so advanced that it is likely any and all races have interbred so much that there is now one homogeneous race on Krypton, much like is proposed to happen on earth in the not to distant future when more races start interbreeding.

If that were the case, they certainly wouldn't look exclusively Anglo-Saxon. Best to not delve into the subject too much and let it be. :cwink:

no. It never made sense how out of the entire population of this "highly advanced and technological" civilization, only 1 made it out.

They don't have to explore any other survivors like Kandorians or Kara, just like Nolan doesn't want to bring in any partners for his Batman, but to categorically dismiss them as not existing at all is myopic IMO
How is it myopic? The Kryptonians basically felt they were infallible amidst a crisis and that was the death of them.

[afan]

If that were the case, they certainly wouldn't look exclusively Anglo-Saxon. Best to not delve into the subject too much and let it be. :cwink:


How is it myopic? The Kryptonians basically felt they were infallible amidst a crisis and that was the death of them.

Given that star-travel was possible, and that the tech was so common that a lone individual, Jor-el, could launch a ship; the concept that some Kryptonians, at least, were not off world is a bit narrow-minded.

[The Guard]

I've always liked the idea that the Kryptonians...while capable of interstellar travel...didn't believe they NEEDED to go offworld. They weren't parasites, they thought they could perfect their own homeworld.

[afan]

I've always liked the idea that the Kryptonians...while capable of interstellar travel...didn't believe they NEEDED to go offworld. They weren't parasites, they thought they could perfect their own homeworld.

Perhaps.....but how does a society develop the technology to travel the galaxy without the desire to travel the galaxy? First comes the dream then the reality?

[afan]

A thought........
If Kal-el was launched into the galaxial abyss solely to escape certain death, but his course and eventual arrival on Earth, a planet unknown to Kryptonian science, were left purely to chance, and not a grand scheme of Jor-el's; then it is reasonable to assume given the vastness of space; that even though Kryptonians were off world, or managed a desperate escape, at the moment of Krypton's destruction they would never, or at best very rarely, encounter Earth or Superman

[RachelDawes]

Perhaps.....but how does a society develop the technology to travel the galaxy without the desire to travel the galaxy? First comes the dream then the reality?

Kryptonians did travel the galaxy, but they tended to come back rather than live off-world.

[B]

I want Zod surviving because of his imprisonment in the Phantom Zone & of course Doomsday..

Brainiac.. well I'd want him to survive if hes shown to be of Kryptonian origin but I kinda like the idea that hes not from Krypton persay, but played a substantial part in its destruction..

Bottom line I think Kal-El should be the only known survivor who was on Krypton near the time of its destruction..

[afan]

Kryptonians did travel the galaxy, but they tended to come back rather than live off-world.

What motivated that? The expenditure of the resources necessary to span a galaxy would not lend the activity solely to Sunday drives? It makes no sense.

[Young Superman]

I prefer John Byrne's version of Krypton, where Kryptonians had the necessary technological advances to build instellar ships, but they stopped doing it, essentially, because the rest of the galaxy was stupid in comparison to them. There was nothing they could gain from interstellar travel, except a dumbing down of their own society. They were at the epitome, or so they reasoned, of civilization, and as such, weren't going to let lesser cultures influence the Kryponian way of life.

Not to mention Jor-El's ancestor introduced a genetic anomoly to the kryptonian genome, so that Kryptonians were physically dependent on the planet Krypton for survival. They couldn't live off world. Only Kal-El, when Jor-El found the flaw, could have it removed.

[Webhead2006]

Yea i wouldnt mind it going they are the super advance race and all that. They did travel the stars and that helped them learn about the universe. But after season how evil and dark the universe is they decided to stay on their planet and not get invovled with the crap going on around the universe. Like dont get invovled with the Thanngians(spelling?), Darkseid's world-New Genesis, and other countless space species in the dc comics i dont really know of. Or they could say space travel was just banned for some reason.

I to would like it to be kal-el as the real sol survivor of krypton's desctruction, but leave hints out there that zod, doomsday, brainiac are out there. Then also maybe the kara-zor-el supergirl. But how to go about her coming to earth i would have to think about it more.

[The Guard]

Young Superman nailed it.

Basically, they don't NEED to explore anymore.

[afan]

I prefer John Byrne's version of Krypton, where Kryptonians had the necessary technological advances to build instellar ships, but they stopped doing it, essentially, because the rest of the galaxy was stupid in comparison to them. There was nothing they could gain from interstellar travel, except a dumbing down of their own society. They were at the epitome, or so they reasoned, of civilization, and as such, weren't going to let lesser cultures influence the Kryponian way of life.

Not to mention Jor-El's ancestor introduced a genetic anomoly to the kryptonian genome, so that Kryptonians were physically dependent on the planet Krypton for survival. They couldn't live off world. Only Kal-El, when Jor-El found the flaw, could have it removed.

That would nicely explain no off world presence at the time of Krypton's destruction, but wouldn't such total isolationism require a totalatarian authority (ala Big Brother) to prevent anyone from diverging from that policy. A world somewhat ill-fitting to the commonly accepted Kryptonian utopia. Certainly the genetic anomoly, that sentences any wanderlust to a death sentence, fits that criteria .

[Webhead2006]

well it should be interesting to see what any future writers decide upon for krypton's back story.

[NotFadeAway]

In a word, no.

The script may have sucked, and alot of Supes villians deserve screen time, but the whole Kryptonian invasion of Earth thing in Abrams script excited me. Flying kryptonians against human planes armed with kryptonite laced missiles could be cool. Just make it a better story.

You could even use daxamites.

[Timstuff]

I'm not against bringing back Zod and giving him a posse of thugs at some point in the franchise / trilogy, but I do not want any BS about New Krypton or Supergirl, Superdog, Supercat, Superhorse, Superchimp, Superhamster, SuperWTF. For all intents and purposes the status quo of the new franchise is that Superman is Krypton's last son, and by the end of a Zod movie it should be that way as well (in other words, Zod and his goons gets offed in some way).

I don't mind the idea of Brainiac being of Kryptonian origin, either. In fact, I quite like it, so technically he could be considered a survivor of Krypton (but like Zod he'd be dead by the end of his movie).

[RachelDawes]

That would nicely explain no off world presence at the time of Krypton's destruction, but wouldn't such total isolationism require a totalatarian authority (ala Big Brother) to prevent anyone from diverging from that policy. A world somewhat ill-fitting to the commonly accepted Kryptonian utopia. Certainly the genetic anomoly, that sentences any wanderlust to a death sentence, fits that criteria .

I kind of like the idea of Krypton as a dystopia. Krypton's perfection always felt rather cold to me.

[Timstuff]

I think a dystopian Krypton would be a great way to differentiate the new franchise from the Donner films.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/Omega1986_album/MachineCity.jpg

I think it would ring more true with audiences as well, since we'd be seeing a civilization that has reached the end of the line in all ways imaginable, not just geologically. It was too late to save Krypton, so Jor-El decided his son's best chance was to live on Earth, since it's "not too late for the Earthlings." That would be a stark contrast to the Donner films, where it's "oh look at us, we are so perfect, and now we're going to share some of our perfection with the earth people because they're good and can be perfect too!" Rather than depicting Krypton as a promise of what perfection humanity can achieve, it would be more of a warning as to where we could fall.

[Webhead2006]

would be a strange take to go with. But i agree it would be a great way to step away from donner's take.

[Young Superman]

Young Superman nailed it.

Basically, they don't NEED to explore anymore.
Thanks

[SuperAl]

I think it would ring more true with audiences as well, since we'd be seeing a civilization that has reached the end of the line in all ways imaginable, not just geologically. It was too late to save Krypton, so Jor-El decided his son's best chance was to live on Earth, since it's "not too late for the Earthlings." That would be a stark contrast to the Donner films, where it's "oh look at us, we are so perfect, and now we're going to share some of our perfection with the earth people because they're good and can be perfect too!" Rather than depicting Krypton as a promise of what perfection humanity can achieve, it would be more of a warning as to where we could fall.

Only thing is they sent clark to earth to save his life not to share perfection with Earth. Earth was a perfect suitor for clark because they shared the same features. Plus I dont think the world should look like its at the end of its line, the main story i want the movie to be is about Brainiac and its reluctance to warn Krypton of its impeding doom. Their planet shouldnt be affected by their sun exploding until it explodes so it shouldnt look like the planet is dieing from pollution and what not. I would rather have it look like a more advanced earth. Either one tho is better than the Ice Krypton the old movies gave us.

would be a strange take to go with. But i agree it would be a great way to step away from donner's take.

dont think it would be very hard to depart from Donner's take. He turned Krypton into Antarctica for some reason and he also never even introduced Brainiac or why superman's civilization didn't even try to leave Krypton before it was destroyed. IMO its pretty easy to create something better than what Donner did, his origin was really lacking.

I still think Krypton should look like a much more advanced Earth

[SuperAl]

double post

[Young Superman]

absolutely yes!!!