Survivor: Tocantins

[Marx]

I'm a little surprised to see (from the previews) that Debbie supposedly turns on Coach next week.

[CELTICPRED]

I don't see why she wouldn't. She knows considering the numbers, it's her, or Coach next.


Dumb move tonight IMO. Sierra hasn't been a challenge threat in the game except for being lucky last week, and Debbie makes it into the final round in the Immunity challenge this week, and won last week.

[SuperT]

The Survivor Insider clips at the CBS website confirmed that both Taj and Erinn promised Sierra they wouldn't vote for her.

[simplysuperhero]

With 6 Survivors left, my guess is the top three will be Coach, Taj and Stephen with Stephen winning the whole thing.

I'm under the impression Stephen has thought through he can't win with TJ and can't beat Taj because that's going against the idol and against someone who won't vote for him since she brought him into the alliance with Brandon.

Taj was the catalyst for making Stephen the player that he is and I think even a better player than her.

The hard thing for Stephen is to get TJ voted off without making TJ think it was Stephen who voted him off. Solution: tell Coach that Taj has the idol. This will make Coach be the arrogant "dragon slayer" and whisper enough things in his ear to get him angry at TJ for voting against him. This way Coach gets on his high-horse and persuade Erinn and Debbie to vote against TJ without Taj or Stephen voting against TJ. The only problem with this plan would be if TJ gets the necklace at the next immunity challenge.

[Marx]

Coach survives tribal council again! :cmad:

[CELTICPRED]

Ultimately I think it was a better choice for Stephen and JT.

Hopefully Coach is out by the next 2 tribals, I don't dislike any of the other four remaining players.


And Stephen is a genius. ****ing brainiac that man is. And Eddie George is funny as hell.

[Marx]

Was it ever said WHO Coach had brought in for his 'loved ones' reunion? Who was that guy? His son? Brother?

[CELTICPRED]

I thought it was his son, but I don't even think they said.

The first thing he does is have him stretch. ugh.

[SuperT]

The guy was his assistant soccer coach for the girls soccer team that he coaches back at home, it wasn't a family member. Pathetic.

And I agree, JT/Stephen made the right decision, Debbie was a strategic/social threat that needed to be taken care of before she poisoned the well.

At this point, the final three will more than likely be Taj/Stephan/JT, which is funny since they came into the merge at a 6-4 disadvantage The Timbira tribe really threw this game away.

[CELTICPRED]

At this point, the final three will more than likely be Taj/Stephan/JT, which is funny since they came into the merge at a 6-4 disadvantage The Timbira tribe really threw this game away.

And you could make the argument that Coach and Tyson dug their own grave, by getting rid of Brendan first instead of JT or Stephen.

[POWdER-man]

All I heard was, "He is my assistant".

[SuperT]

And you could make the argument that Coach and Tyson dug their own grave, by getting rid of Brendan first instead of JT or Stephen.

Yep! Them getting rid of Brendan sealed their fates. That was the exact moment they handed the game over to JT/Stephen/Taj.

[SuperT]

Sorry for the double post, but I'll reach all the way back to episode two and say that Timbira screwed themselves over then when they chose to vote out Candace instead of voting out Coach who completely wrecked their tribe.

[Sawyer]

Who was the one with JT? :huh:

[CELTICPRED]

His sister.

With the creepiest teeth and braces I have ever seen. I know, not nice to say, but seriously.

[Sawyer]

His sister.

With the creepiest teeth and braces I have ever seen. I know, not nice to say, but seriously.

And the ugly ass orange nails... :eek:

[simplysuperhero]

JT and Stephen are turning out to be great comrades rather than head-butting competitors. Refreshing considering the alpha-maleness of Coach.

I always like the auction game and was impressed by Stephen's memorization of those 10 numbers. He looked ragged out there and didn't look like he would be anywhere close to winning.

He's definitely the underdog. Kudos to him for swaying JT gingerly to vote Debbie off. Maybe he's not revealing everything about his game plan to keep Coach in the game.

Amazed Erinn is still in the game. She's the under-the-radar survivor and you can only be this way for so long in this game.

[bullets]

It was smart to get rid of debbie.

sadly i think couch will make final four but his downfall will be epic.

[simplysuperhero]

I don't think his downfall will be as epic as it is inevitable with his kind of personality.

[SuperT]

I loved the scene with JT/Stephen/Coach all sitting their on the little river bed and Coachs says all gleefully "One of us is going to win the game."

You're certainly not the one, douchebag. Talk about delusions of grandeur!

[simplysuperhero]

He's a legend in his own mind.

[Marx]

His sister.

With the creepiest teeth and braces I have ever seen. I know, not nice to say, but seriously.

I've seen plenty of younger people with braces like that. :huh:

[Matt]

Missed last night, am watching on CBS.com right now. I love how Coach, who has told more lies than anyone in this game since Johnny Fairplay is so concerned with "perserving his integrity and changing the game." He must be a plant. No one can be that ridiculous.

Also, is JT an idiot. Debbie gives him the keys to the fortress to take Coach out and he says Debbie is fishy? JT should just shut up and let Stephen play the game for him.

[simplysuperhero]

My favorite coach moments have been the questions/comments fired at him by Jeff.

[Matt]

Jeff: Let me guess, some tribal chief gave you it?

:lmao:

Coach stood there and lied to all of them about Sierra! Why are they sitting around and talking about how honest he is at tribal council? I really hope Probst calls Coach on his lies at the reunion show.

[simplysuperhero]

Here's Jeff Probst blogging about the show (just posted earlier today): http://tinyurl.com/ob2x8j

[Matt]

Debbie had to go. No way around it. She was just too much of a schemer capable of shaking things up where as Coach has proven time and time again that no matter how much he thinks it he has no power in this game.

[amazingfantasy15]

Jeff: Let me guess, some tribal chief gave you it?

:lmao:

Coach stood there and lied to all of them about Sierra! Why are they sitting around and talking about how honest he is at tribal council? I really hope Probst calls Coach on his lies at the reunion show.

The way I see it is they're really just smiling and nodding with Coach. They don't really believe what Coach is saying, but it's better just to agree than get in an argument with him. Notice how he hasn't really been in on any plans since Brendan's ouster. It's truly amazing seeing Timbria being decimated, they basically had double the members going into the merge since Joe was taken out for medical reasons. Stephen, Taj and JT should not be in this game and much less running it. I really think Stephen will win, he just needs to be smart enough to take out JT, it's probably the only person he wouldn't be able to beat. Coach, nobody really likes him or takes him seriously. Taj, play the wife of an NFL star card, doesn't need the money. Erinn, what has she done really, just a tag along.

[Marx]

My favorite coach moments have been the questions/comments fired at him by Jeff.

Jeff: Let me guess, some tribal chief gave you it?

:lmao:

Coach stood there and lied to all of them about Sierra! Why are they sitting around and talking about how honest he is at tribal council? I really hope Probst calls Coach on his lies at the reunion show.

:lmao:

[CELTICPRED]

I've seen plenty of younger people with braces like that. :huh:

I meant the teeth themselves.

[Prognosticator]

LMAO that Coach is still on there!!!

[Matt]

God, Stephen and JT are not nearly as smart as I thought. They seem to completely believe everything Coach tells them and idolize this man. He is clearly playing for pity and Taj and Erinn see through it but they are entirely oblivious. I mean, this man who is claiming to be a broken down old man just won second place in this challenge. I believe the back spasm was fake in order to make himself appear as less of a threat so no one votes him out, but this man IS a physical threat and they idolize him so much that they are blind to it.

[POWdER-man]

Christ I wish Coach would just shut up for once. Why don't they stop asking him questions?

[Matt]

Well, at least Stephen saw through it. And once again I ask JT, please just shut up and let Stephen play the game for you.

[Matt]

Christ I wish Coach would just shut up for once. Why don't they stop asking him questions?

Imagine what his jury speech will be like.

[POWdER-man]

It will be the longest speech since Susan's Rat and Snake speech during season 1.

[Matt]

Should also be the funniest. Coach is lecturing Stephen in his closing comments for lying. Is he serious? He stood there and lied to their faces about Sierra! Does this man seriously believe what he is saying?

[POWdER-man]

I hope it ends up JT and Stephen. I don't like Taj or Erin (I refuse to put the second n).

[POWdER-man]

Should also be the funniest. Coach is lecturing Stephen in his closing comments for lying. Is he serious? He stood there and lied to their faces about Sierra! Does this man seriously believe what he is saying?

It will be amusing, but in the cringe worthy/embarrasing for him kind of funny.

The guy is so full of **** I don't even think he knows what is the truth anymore.

[CELTICPRED]

As much as I hate to admit it, the more and more I think about it, the more I think Coach is an actor.

[simplysuperhero]

Best line of the season by Taj when she said any 37-year old man who thinks he's a dragon slayer has a mental illness. Bingo.

I was surprised when she said his age. I know they're all emaciated but who would have thunk that he's that young. If I had to guess his age I would think he was in his mid-40s.

[simplysuperhero]

I hope it ends up JT and Stephen. I don't like Taj or Erin (I refuse to put the second n).

It will. There's a top three who plead their case in front of the jury.

Can't see Erinn getting any votes. I'm still not sure if Stephen can pull off beating JT. Though Stephen's is better verbally than JT which will help at the jury.

[Marx]

I am so thankful that Coach is out! (That poem/rambling/babbling speel he went on before the vote drove me insane!)

[simplysuperhero]

The poem might have influenced Stephen's vote. He was the swing vote at tribal council.

[SuperT]

He's gone! He's finally gone!

If Stephen is smart he'll get with Erinn and Taj next round and vote out JT if he doesn't win immunity.

As for his final two partner, he'd probably win hands down against Erinn but I think it could be close if it's Stephen vs. Taj. I could see her beating him if he chose her. She's a great talker, people person and she's played just about the same game as he did.

[simplysuperhero]

If Stephen is smart he'll get with Erinn and Taj next round and vote out JT if he doesn't win immunity.
.

That would be a great move. If Stephen can get immunity or if anyone but JT gets immunity, there's his opportunity if he can sway Erinn and Taj, the game's in the bag for him.

[Marx]

...but would Stephen actually turn on JT? I don't know.

[CELTICPRED]

This reunion show is going to be great.

[SuperT]

...but would Stephen actually turn on JT? I don't know.

I don't think he will, but if he wants to win he should.

[simplysuperhero]

...but would Stephen actually turn on JT? I don't know.

He can. The possibility is there.

[Marx]

I don't think he will, but if he wants to win he should.

He can. The possibility is there.

I would be shocked if he actually did though.

[simplysuperhero]

It makes sense if he really wants the million dollars over the whole "let's make it to the finals together" with the guy who's likely to win the whole thing.

[bullets]

They are going to have to turn on each other eventually . It would of been smarter to vote off erin.

[amazingfantasy15]

Stephen needs to turn on JT to win. These two are the one playing the game, Taj and Erinn just go with whatever they say. However, JT will get more votes from the jury, everyone seems to like him, also the last couple votes he's gone against the majority, which could help him with the more bitter people, saying no I didn't write your name down.

[SuperT]

I don't think it'll be as much of a slam dunk win for Stephen as people seem to think, and I get that impression from reading the after show interviews from most of the jury members.

The majority of them stated that they really had no idea that Stephen was playing the game as much as he was when watching the show back - that doesn't bode well for him if he's apart of the final two. He also seems a little awkward, so I could see him fumbling at the jury questioning (Like Amanda, who was the WORST final two/three performer EVER). If they didn't see how well he was playing until after the show was over he won't have such an easy time explaining his gameplay.

I think Stephen is 100% going to be in the Final Two, but it's a toss up as to who he goes up against because I can see any combination happening.

JT vs. Stephen - JT wins hands down

Stephen vs. Erinn - Stephen wins for sure

Stephen vs. Taj - Toss up. I could see it going either way.

JT can beat everyone left, Stephen would beat Erinn, Taj could more than likely beat Erinn, Erinn loses to everyone left. Taj vs. Stephen is too open to call.

[SuperT]

Sorry for the double post, but over at EW.com, they have Jeff's Survivor Talk video, and he aludes to the fact that there may be a betrayel during the final episode.

[amazingfantasy15]

I don't think it'll be as much of a slam dunk win for Stephen as people seem to think, and I get that impression from reading the after show interviews from most of the jury members.

The majority of them stated that they really had no idea that Stephen was playing the game as much as he was when watching the show back - that doesn't bode well for him if he's apart of the final two. He also seems a little awkward, so I could see him fumbling at the jury questioning (Like Amanda, who was the WORST final two/three performer EVER). If they didn't see how well he was playing until after the show was over he won't have such an easy time explaining his gameplay.

I think Stephen is 100% going to be in the Final Two, but it's a toss up as to who he goes up against because I can see any combination happening.

JT vs. Stephen - JT wins hands down

Stephen vs. Erinn - Stephen wins for sure

Stephen vs. Taj - Toss up. I could see it going either way.

JT can beat everyone left, Stephen would beat Erinn, Taj could more than likely beat Erinn, Erinn loses to everyone left. Taj vs. Stephen is too open to call.

I think as long as someone mentions Taj's husband they can beat her. Just go the "She doesn't need the money" route, it's her achilles heal and you've gotta exploit that if you want to beat her.

[SuperT]

All Taj has to do for a defense against that, and she's already told the other players, that her winnings aren't going towards herself but to her charity that she runs. Easy peasy.

We haven't seen that situation mentioned since Taj was back on Jalapao, and the people that seemed to have a problem with it are all non-jury members. Even when Eddie himself came out to visit no one mentioned it.

I don't see that flying as a good excuse not to vote for her, in fact, in some situations I can see how it can backfire with the jury thinking the person has no way to back themselves or their up other then to say that Taj doesn't "deserve" the money. (I hate when people use deserve in Survivor.)

[amazingfantasy15]

All Taj has to do for a defense against that, and she's already told the other players, that her winnings aren't going towards herself but to her charity that she runs. Easy peasy.

We haven't seen that situation mentioned since Taj was back on Jalapao, and the people that seemed to have a problem with it are all non-jury members. Even when Eddie himself came out to visit no one mentioned it.

I don't see that flying as a good excuse not to vote for her, in fact, in some situations I can see how it can backfire with the jury thinking the person has no way to back themselves or their up other then to say that Taj doesn't "deserve" the money. (I hate when people use deserve in Survivor.)

Yeah, but the game is for a million dollars, I'm not giving the money to someone who doesn't need it and will just give it away. Plus, I know no one's mentioned it since that one time, but first off we're only seeing 45 minutes of a 72 hour time period and it's not that important right now, I definitely think it will come into play at the final tribal council. As for the only people who cared about it are all non-jury members, well yeah, cause the jury is composed exclusively of Timbria members and nothing has been mentioned of Taj's husband since the merge.

[SuperT]

Right, it hasn't been mentioned since because either:

A) Taj doesn't make the Final Two

or

B) Taj does, but no one cares or it isn't a deciding factor in who wins. Otherwise it would have been brought up more.

[simplysuperhero]

You have to consider how the final three will do with the final jury - their ability to sell how they played the game and be able to respond quickly and convincingly.

With this in mind JT doesn't stand much of a chance and I can see Stephen fumbling to find the right words to come out.

If Taj gets to the final three, talking to the jury and answering their questions will be a cake-walk.

[SuperT]

I agree with your assessment that Taj would probably do the best in front of the jury, but it's a Final Two that faces the jury this season instead of a Final Three.

[chesslover]

Taj doesn't impress me. Of course that could be editing. Erinn's got this in the bag :)

[Sawyer]

Coach got pwnd. It was about time.

[simplysuperhero]

I agree with your assessment that Taj would probably do the best in front of the jury, but it's a Final Two that faces the jury this season instead of a Final Three.

Really? When did Jeff saw this? I completely missed it.

[SuperT]

It maybe to throw us off, but Probst has said it in his blog posts over at EW.com and the preview for the finale said there would be THREE Tribal Councils in one episode.

If you think, that's one where the fourth place finisher is outed, one where the third place finisher is voted out, and then the final Tribal Council where the final two answer the jury and then the vote for the winner.

[Marx]

It maybe to throw us off, but Probst has said it in his blog posts over at EW.com and the preview for the finale said there would be THREE Tribal Councils in one episode.

If you think, that's one where the fourth place finisher is outed, one where the third place finisher is voted out, and then the final Tribal Council where the final two answer the jury and then the vote for the winner.

I hope it is a final two tribal. I don't really like a final three tribal.

[SuperT]

I don't particularly LOVE the final three setup, but I can see why they decided to switch the Final Tribal Council up. They were getting sick of the predictable final immunity challenge winner just picking the bigger jerk of the two left, then sailing to a predictable final two win.

Although Earl threw that out of the window when he beat Dreamz and Cassandra 7-0-0.

[bullets]

I didn't like a final three council for some reason. I also don't see Erin winning because she coasted through the game .

[simplysuperhero]

Erin would be great to have up against to win the whole thing since no one would vote for her. But everyone would see through this strategy on the jury.

I too never liked the three person final. I always preferred the final two.

[Marx]

I don't think Erinn would win. She hasn't done anything but ride coattails.

[simplysuperhero]

Exactly which is why anyone who wants to win will have to get immunity in the last challenge and vote off their competitor so they could win again Erinn.

[Marx]

*bump*

SURVIVOR: TOCANTINS SEASON FINALE AND REUNION SHOW BEGIN TONIGHT AT 8PM!

:applaud

[CELTICPRED]

Almost forgot about it until I was looking to see if AFV was on.

[SuperT]

It's time!

[Matt]

Coach allegedly passed the lie detector which implies one of three things

1) He is telling the truth

2) He can control his heart rate

or what I consider most likely...

3) He is so ****in' crazy he believes his lies.

Coach clearly did not play Survivor with the "utmost honesty and honor." He was caught in several lies, one by Sierra. That is not honor, yet he some how believes he did not lie.

[CELTICPRED]

3) He is so ****in' crazy he believes his lies.

This is probably the best answer. There are instances where people have firm belief in their lies for so long that it becomes nothing but truth in their own mind.



As for the winner, I'm not surprised. Good season overall, and one of the best rosters is in a long time.


Definitely looking forward to Survivor Samoa next fall.

[SuperT]

Stephen was absolutely PATHETIC at the jury questioning. He was on par with Amanda during China and Micronesia.

After seeing his performance, I have no doubt that Taj and Erinn would have more than likely beat him as well.

Bring on Survivor Samoa!!

PS - I'm applying for the Survivor so wish me luck!

[Marx]

This was definitely a great season! I couldn't believe the jury questioning. Stephen was horrendous! It was horrible to see his and JT's relationship break down like that. (But I guess if JT was really overplaying it to get more votes...it wasn't as bad as it seemed.)

[Marx]

...I also did not see the point in blindsiding Taj.

[bullets]

I'm so glad that JT won .

[bullets]

Coach's lie detector test , lol , completely absurd.

[CELTICPRED]

Sierra's question made no sense. So sick of her. Attention whore, especially during the reunion show.

And Erinn cleans up well. Love me my Wisconsin women.

[Sawyer]

This was definitely one of the better seasons of the past few years.

[SuperT]

Stephen sure did turn out to be a little weasel at the end there with him trying to place the blame for voting out Taj all on J.T then making that side deal w/ Erinn at the end.

That's how you play the game, but he was a total snake.

[Philly Phanboy]

Coach's lie detector test , lol , completely absurd.

Wasn't the question he passed the lie detector on something like "did you kayak down the amazon"? He wasn't asked about the rest of his story of surviving being captured by cannibals.

[SuperT]

No, it did ask him if he was kidnapped but it doesn't matter because the guy that conducted that polygraph is a fraud, it's all over the internet.

He's the same guy that does the lie detector tests for Vh1 shows!

[Marx]

No, it did ask him if he was kidnapped but it doesn't matter because the guy that conducted that polygraph is a fraud, it's all over the internet.

He's the same guy that does the lie detector tests for Vh1 shows!

I wondered about that...I had a very hard time believing that it was a legitimate lie detector test.

[amazingfantasy15]

Stephen was absolutely PATHETIC at the jury questioning. He was on par with Amanda during China and Micronesia.

After seeing his performance, I have no doubt that Taj and Erinn would have more than likely beat him as well.

Bring on Survivor Samoa!!

PS - I'm applying for the Survivor so wish me luck!

I don't think he was as bad as Amanda. The problem was, he had no chance from the start. Since JT and Stephen basically shared a brain it was all down to popularity and everyone on the jury, man and woman alike had crushes on JT.

[Matt]

No, it did ask him if he was kidnapped but it doesn't matter because the guy that conducted that polygraph is a fraud, it's all over the internet.

He's the same guy that does the lie detector tests for Vh1 shows!

Link, please?

I don't think he was as bad as Amanda. The problem was, he had no chance from the start. Since JT and Stephen basically shared a brain it was all down to popularity and everyone on the jury, man and woman alike had crushes on JT.

I've always felt bad for Amanda. She has always played brilliant games, but my God, she sucked at getting jury votes.

[SuperT]

I don't think Amanda played a great game both times she was on. All she did was tag along with the big players both seasons and followed along for the ride.

She did it with Todd during China, then Ozzy until he was voted out, then she latched on to Parvati.

[amazingfantasy15]

Link, please?

I've always felt bad for Amanda. She has always played brilliant games, but my God, she sucked at getting jury votes.

I don't think Amanda played a great game both times she was on. All she did was tag along with the big players both seasons and followed along for the ride.

She did it with Todd during China, then Ozzy until he was voted out, then she latched on to Parvati.

I think she played a good game both times, orchestrating the big votes and blindsides when they were needed. Problem is she didn't own up to her game at the final tribal council. She cared to much about the jury liking her than playing the game. Todd in China had the best Tribal I think I've ever seen because he totally owned up to lying to people to get ahead. I've always found it funny that people put so much stock in loyalty on Survivor, the game is all about betrayal. It's all about looking someone in the eye while you stab them in the back. Amanda didn't want to own up to that, Todd and Parvati did, that's why they kicked her ass. Amanda probably orchestrated the biggest moves in both her trips though, the trips that put everything in place to put her at the final tribal.

[SuperT]

What did Amanda orchestrate in Mirconesia? As far as I'm concerned Cirie and Parvati ran that entire game all the way up to the Final three with Amanda tagging along and luckily winning the final immunity challenge.

The one move she did make the entire game was she lucking out into finding the hidden immunity idol, otherwise her game was completely destroyed once Ozzy left.

As for China, her one move was getting James kicked out with his two idols, but after that, she went back into hiding.

[chesslover]

I don't get the JT love. Also why didn't Debbie vote for Stephen? He answered her question honestly imo.

[Matt]

Probably because that was the most spiteful jury in awhile and they voted against the guy who beat them

[CELTICPRED]

I wonder what this business venture JT has with Stephen is.


Careful JT........

[SuperT]

Probably because that was the most spiteful jury in awhile and they voted against the guy who beat them

See, I totally disagree here. I think this was one of the least spiteful jury's we've had in a while.

I think every member of the jury gave Stephen an open chance to explain his game to them, and I actually believed the ones that said they were not sure who they were voting. Stephen just completely SUCKED at explaining his game play. He didn't give any jury member a single reason as to why they should vote for him. I think he answered Debbie's question the WORST.

Every single one of those jury members and, JT himself, knew full well that Stephen would have dumped JT faster then he dumped Taj, if he would have won that final immunity. That's why Debbie was so pissy when he gave that stupid "I don't know" answer, because everyone already knew.

[simplysuperhero]

See, I totally disagree here. I think this was one of the least spiteful jury's we've had in a while.

I think every member of the jury gave Stephen an open chance to explain his game to them, and I actually believed the ones that said they were not sure who they were voting. Stephen just completely SUCKED at explaining his game play. He didn't give any jury member a single reason as to why they should vote for him. I think he answered Debbie's question the WORST.

Every single one of those jury members and, JT himself, knew full well that Stephen would have dumped JT faster then he dumped Taj, if he would have won that final immunity. That's why Debbie was so pissy when he gave that stupid "I don't know" answer, because everyone already knew.

I wasn't surprised by Stephen's performance with the jury. It takes him awhile to make a decision. He's anything but impulsive and this was his downside. He had a hard time explaining himself because he was put on the spot.

And even if Stephen demonstrated the gift of gab at jury time, JT's actions up to now spoke louder than any words Stephen used.

I think the worst thing Stephen said which alienated him was giving his warrior example in the game when Coach asked him this question. It was like shooting himself in the foot.

You could see in the reunion show how uncomfortable he was in the first row with his beard.

The one thing I truly believed from him was the weight he said that had lifted when he did not win the final immunity challenge so he wouldn't have to decide. It's too bad he couldn't convey this to the jury the same way. He had to opportunity with Debbie's question but he botched it.

There are two kinds of people in this world, my Dad has told me, the ones who give ulcers and the ones who get them. Stephen gets them.

[RAMORE]

Probably because that was the most spiteful jury in awhile and they voted against the guy who beat them

Exactly. I'm glad JT won he needed the money more but they did equal work in that deal. I'm mad they didn't take Taj to 3 everything still would have been the same but Stephen wouldn't have been vilified as much you know. Only bad move he made if you ask me.

[simplysuperhero]

I think JT hinted at Stephen being a part of JT's plan with his money: consultant? business partner?

There's already a successful entrepreneur - Brandon - he's behind the product Bear Naked granola that's pretty awesome (and pricey).

[Moridin]

Coach allegedly passed the lie detector which implies one of three things

1) He is telling the truth
2) He can control his heart rate
or what I consider most likely...
3) He is so ****in' crazy he believes his lies.

Coach clearly did not play Survivor with the "utmost honesty and honor." He was caught in several lies, one by Sierra. That is not honor, yet he some how believes he did not lie.

Lie Detectors only work about 80% of the time anyway, whether the guy that gave the test is a fraud or not.
Like we saw at Tribal with Sierra, Coach is well able to lie through his teeth without breaking a sweat, a polygraph shouldn't be any trouble for him.
He was hilarious though:hehe:


Bring on Survivor Samoa!!
PS - I'm applying for the Survivor so wish me luck!

Hey cool! Good luck dude!


Exactly. I'm glad JT won he needed the money more but they did equal work in that deal.

Yeah, I think JT was overall much more deserving of the win.
Like you say the strategy was both of them, but JT had Stephen well beaten in the physical and social aspects.

[RAMORE]

I've tried out for survivor twice at open casting calls in florida. Still waiting on my call maybe they are holding back so they can put me on the 20th season!

[simplysuperhero]

Best of luck. My father-in-law came close to making it for the second season but they decided they didn't want anyone to remind them of the oldest in the first season, Rudy.

...so don't say you're nickname is "Coach" or that you had any weird encounters on the Amazon.