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protocida
01-28-2009, 01:03 PM
Since Sinestro has his own thread, i figured that the Green Lantern movie main antagonist deserves one as well. In this thread, let's discuss Hector Hammond. Let's talk Casting, characterization, appearance, Portrayal and much more. :woot:

I created a poll with the Casting suggestions i remembered. Feel free to add more. :cwink:

Wesley Dodds
01-28-2009, 01:13 PM
Haha! At this rate freakin' Goldface'll have his own thread! Only jokin'... Good thread!

Yeah, i'm gonna stick with Sean Penn...
http://xs135.xs.to/xs135/09053/sean-penn-quote-of-day-life-12-20-06905.jpg
It should follow Johns' Secret Origin Model. He begins a self-deluded, pathetic loser everybody quietly laughs at, has the accident and becomes more and more drunk on his new found power, not to mention increasingly deformed, he's spurned by Carol Ferris and flips leading into the final showdown at which point he is insanely powerful and truly deranged!
And Yes! He knows Hal is GL!

Eddie Dean
01-28-2009, 01:18 PM
My first choice is Andy Serkis, but I wouldn't really object to anyone on the poll.

David Thewlis and Hugh Lauire are two other suggestions.

Lane & Kent
01-28-2009, 01:22 PM
Jon Hamm.

Keyser Soze
01-28-2009, 02:37 PM
Yay! Green Lantern is conquering the Misc. DC Films board! At this rate they'll HAVE to give us our own board! :)

Chris B
01-28-2009, 05:14 PM
Voted Giamatti. Though I think Hamm would be an interesting choice.

Octoberist
01-28-2009, 06:35 PM
I've always thought that Hammond is kinda..uninteresting as a character.

Wesley Dodds
01-28-2009, 06:43 PM
I've always thought that Hammond is kinda..uninteresting as a character.

Nah, he's great! He's like GL's Hannibal Lector! With a touch of Scanners thrown in there! How can you not like that?
If they use him in this one expect through-the-glass 'Quid Pro Quo' style scenes between them in sequels...

Lobo
01-28-2009, 07:32 PM
Paul Giamatti my first choice :)

Webhead2006
01-28-2009, 10:04 PM
hopefully if the film is a go in a few months they find the right person for the role. As for this thread i would say shouldnt we wait to shh makes official gl section before we have threads like this.

protocida
01-29-2009, 10:14 AM
No.

cerealkiller182
01-29-2009, 08:43 PM
I hit Jon Hamm by accident cause I was thinking about Hank Henshaw

David Thewlis is Hector Hammond
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7487/davidthewlisyp4.jpg

Changeling
02-01-2009, 05:52 PM
Hell yeah. I voted Paul Giamatti, but Thewlis would rock my socks off!

Eddie Dean
02-01-2009, 06:00 PM
For a younger actor, I'll throw out Peter Sarsgaard.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6622/skeleton1fw9.jpg

Changeling
02-01-2009, 06:32 PM
Yeah he'd fit nicely.

Webhead2006
02-01-2009, 10:52 PM
i forgot what range were they looking for the character in the first draft script?

Kevin Smith
02-02-2009, 12:17 AM
What about Robert Knepper:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh147/GLKEL/tn2_robert_knepper_4.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0460694/

And whoever suggested Sean Penn...that was genius. :D

Bren
02-02-2009, 03:31 PM
David Thewlis is Hector Hammond

Agreed 100%

Jake Cassidy
02-02-2009, 04:12 PM
[quote=Kevin Smith;16371987]What about Robert Knepper:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh147/GLKEL/tn2_robert_knepper_4.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0460694/

He's Dr. Light. :)

Philly Phanboy
02-04-2009, 09:44 AM
He's Dr. Light. :)

He sure is. :yay:

As for Hector Hammond, I like Paul Giamatti for the role.

Lobo
02-04-2009, 09:45 AM
[quote=Kevin Smith;16371987]What about Robert Knepper:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh147/GLKEL/tn2_robert_knepper_4.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0460694/

He's Dr. Light. :)

And what movie is Dr. Light appearing in? :o :oldrazz:

dnno1
02-04-2009, 11:38 AM
Haha! At this rate freakin' Goldface'll have his own thread! Only jokin'... Good thread!

Yeah, i'm gonna stick with Sean Penn...
http://xs135.xs.to/xs135/09053/sean-penn-quote-of-day-life-12-20-06905.jpg
It should follow Johns' Secret Origin Model. He begins a self-deluded, pathetic loser everybody quietly laughs at, has the accident and becomes more and more drunk on his new found power, not to mention increasingly deformed, he's spurned by Carol Ferris and flips leading into the final showdown at which point he is insanely powerful and truly deranged!
And Yes! He knows Hal is GL!

He would do a excellent job in the role. My fear would be that his performance would be so great that you would want him to be the recurring villain in subsequent films (ala Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor), when Sinestro should be.

Wesley Dodds
02-04-2009, 12:19 PM
He would do a excellent job in the role. My fear would be that his performance would be so great that you would want him to be the recurring villain in subsequent films (ala Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor), when Sinestro should be.

Thats a real concern, but now you mention it he'd be a damn good Sinestro too.

Webhead2006
02-04-2009, 12:24 PM
[quote=Jake Cassidy;16374803]

And what movie is Dr. Light appearing in? :o :oldrazz:
Dr. light isnt appearing in any films at this time being, and he is a a jl and teen titans villain.

Changeling
02-04-2009, 12:46 PM
Lol yeah he was kidding. As in, Why would you care if he's Dr. Light because hes not appearing in anything..Lol
Btw: Lobo, you should do waht you did in the Flash thread and add some more Hammond choices to the poll

Lobo
02-04-2009, 12:52 PM
Thanks for explaining it Changeling. Give me some names, and I'll add them.

Changeling
02-04-2009, 01:02 PM
I cant really think of any myself aside from David Thewlis and Sean Penn, but other people should have more choices.

cerealkiller182
02-04-2009, 01:08 PM
Lobo, if you do do that could you change my vote to thewlis

Lobo
02-04-2009, 01:09 PM
No problem.

Changeling
02-04-2009, 01:10 PM
Yeah I think my choice of that poll would be Giamatti, but it's a close tie for Giamatti and Thewlis for me.

Lobo
02-04-2009, 01:10 PM
I added three names, and your vote for Thewlis, cereal.

cerealkiller182
02-04-2009, 01:13 PM
I added three names, and your vote for Thewlis, cereal.

cool thanks. I had voted for Hamm before hand, dont know if you want to change that.

Changeling
02-04-2009, 01:14 PM
William Hurt would be a good left field choice.

protocida
03-21-2009, 07:45 PM
Hector Hammond is going to be in Green Lantern.

Let's cast him. :woot:

batman44
03-21-2009, 07:47 PM
I like Mark Ruffalo for HH.

Philly Phanboy
03-21-2009, 09:20 PM
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=318592

cerealkiller182
03-22-2009, 04:55 PM
David Thewlis is Hector Hammond
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7487/davidthewlisyp4.jpg

Webhead2006
03-22-2009, 10:41 PM
i asked this before in the gl threads before we got own section. What age range do they have hammond in the first draft script.

protocida
03-23-2009, 01:36 PM
Hector Hammond is mid-30s in the Script.

Webhead2006
03-23-2009, 01:37 PM
thanks i just forgot what the age range was when i asked before. thanks protocida for answering me. i just still havent gotten through the whole first draft myself. been far to busy with school.

Octoberist
03-23-2009, 02:52 PM
why does Hector have a mustache?

I mean, do we have ROOM for TWO dues with mustaches? HMM?

protocida
03-23-2009, 02:54 PM
Because guys with moustaches are EVIL.

greenlantern248
03-23-2009, 03:30 PM
I like Robert Knepper for Hammond, one he looks the part, and two he is a good actor and can play some pretty evil characters.

protocida
03-28-2009, 04:54 PM
I think Hammond should be portrayed like Alex Ross's Metallo:

http://www.alexrossart.com/galleries/justice_ms/metallo_thumb.jpg

The Major
03-29-2009, 09:53 PM
Keith Callum Rennie. Loeben Conoy from BSG

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0719678/

Walton Goggins. Shane Vendrell from The Shield.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0324658/

Hugh Laurie (also a good Sinestro)

Crispin Glover (also a good Black Hand)

Mark Sheppard. Badger from Firefly.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0791968/

John Turturro

David Boreanaz

Paul Giamatti

Blackman
03-29-2009, 10:00 PM
Can some one tell me how is Hector Hammond portrayed in the script (w/o spoling it)

Some ppl have told me hes a coky 30 something playboy kind of guy in that case David Boreneaz

Some ppl have told me hes a creepy old guy in that case: Crispin Glover

protocida
03-29-2009, 10:11 PM
He's a arrogant, violent, creepy and unstable mid-30s man.

Blackman
03-29-2009, 10:13 PM
then Id still cast Boreneaz

protocida
03-29-2009, 10:14 PM
Please, don't. He's just not right.

Doctor Jones
03-29-2009, 10:26 PM
He's a arrogant, violent, creepy and unstable mid-30s man.

And very whiney. Which they really need to work on.

cerealkiller182
03-30-2009, 08:40 PM
My favorite is David Thewlis, more for the later big brain Hammond

but I think they should go a little older. Half sleaze, have distinguished. Richard Burgi or John C McGinley.

Changeling
03-30-2009, 10:05 PM
McGinley would would be the TITS!

Lobo
03-31-2009, 11:43 AM
Paul Giamatti

Philly Phanboy
03-31-2009, 12:03 PM
Can you merge this with the other Hector Hammond thread that didn't get moved to the GL forum, Lobo?

Lobo
03-31-2009, 12:03 PM
Sure, just give me the link to the other one

Philly Phanboy
03-31-2009, 12:09 PM
Post #3 in this thread. :yay:

Lobo
03-31-2009, 12:14 PM
Done :)

Keyser Soze
03-31-2009, 12:33 PM
I like Paul Giamatti for the role. Hammond has a real sleazeball vibe in the script, and Giamatti makes for a suitably sleazy villain:

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Green Lantern
04-01-2009, 03:08 AM
I'd like Serkis. He can pull off the creepy vibe that Hammond needs

Jake Cassidy
04-01-2009, 05:15 AM
David Wenham

Changeling
04-01-2009, 05:24 PM
I like Paul Giamatti for the role. Hammond has a real sleazeball vibe in the script, and Giamatti makes for a suitably sleazy villain:

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This video seals the deal for me. I already wanted him, but now it's unchangable. Giamatti IS Hammond.

protocida
04-01-2009, 05:59 PM
I'm developing a Green Lantern movie Script. Currently, I'm working on a Hector Hammond scene, and I'd like to know what do you think of it:

The scene starts on Hector's apartment. It's night, and all the lights are shut down, except for a small lamp. There is something... different in the place, but we can't point out what. Hector is there. He's watching as his former boss, Harry Johns, chained in a chair, crying, nose bleeding and shivering, and beging for forgiveness. Hector doesn't care. He uses his mental powers to rewrite John's memories. Distorcing them. Stealling them. Making him see live his worst nightmares. Hector keeps torturing him. Tauting him about going for his wife and daughter next. Finally, Hector takes from him all the memories of his family. The man collapses, bleeding from all the phores. Hector suits up and says he has a "date" and he'll be back before he starts to "smells". As Hector leaves, he turns on the lights, revealing dozens of dead bodies, that gone by the same "treatment", hanging on chains.

Changeling
04-01-2009, 06:04 PM
Youre going to write in the established script format right?

protocida
04-01-2009, 06:05 PM
Edit.

Changeling
04-01-2009, 06:12 PM
I mean like dialog and stuff.

protocida
04-01-2009, 06:18 PM
Yes.

Would you like to read it when it's finished? I can post it here.

Changeling
04-01-2009, 06:19 PM
Definitely man. Who are the villains?

protocida
04-01-2009, 06:25 PM
The main villains are Hector Hammond and Legion.

I used the classic Legion (Tchkk-Tchkk).

I also changed Hector's origin. He gets his powers from the meteor that fueled Abin Sur's ship.

Sinestro is here, but as a hero. His dark side shows up, off course.

Amon Sur appears, in Abin Sur's funeral.

There are nods to Star Shappire and Black Hand.

Changeling
04-01-2009, 06:27 PM
Sweet. Sounds great.

Blackman
04-01-2009, 09:26 PM
The thing with Giamantti and Serkis as Hammond is like the problem with getting Boreneaz or Fillon as Hal...they dont fit the description of the character

I heard Hammond is a creepy 30 something brat

protocida
04-01-2009, 09:27 PM
Yes, he is. :csad:

But that can be fixed. It's what I'm trying to do.

Webhead2006
04-01-2009, 11:28 PM
I agree i think Giamantti could pull off the creepy/jerk hammond.

Changeling
04-02-2009, 03:37 PM
The thing with Giamantti and Serkis as Hammond is like the problem with getting Boreneaz or Fillon as Hal...they dont fit the description of the character

I heard Hammond is a creepy 30 something brat
Come on man, you want David Boreanaz! He can pull off a little creepiness, but girls think he's hot. I dont think he's supposed to be very good looking in this version.

Keyser Soze
04-02-2009, 04:02 PM
The thing with Giamantti and Serkis as Hammond is like the problem with getting Boreneaz or Fillon as Hal...they dont fit the description of the character

I heard Hammond is a creepy 30 something brat

He's described as late 30s in the script. Paul Giamatti is 41, Andy Serkis is 44. So it's not skewing THAT much older.

littlerivers
04-03-2009, 01:50 AM
How about....

Jason Flemyng (43)
http://tinyurl.com/dapmgb

David Wenham (44)
http://tinyurl.com/ckgxkt

Billy Crudup (41)
http://tinyurl.com/cfz8zq

Eddie Dean
04-03-2009, 07:52 AM
I like the Jason Flemyng call. John C. McGinley from a couple posts up was a good call, too.

Lobo
04-03-2009, 08:45 AM
EDIT

I want John C Reilly as Hector Hammond

protocida
04-03-2009, 04:23 PM
Billy Crudup? Hmm...

protocida
04-03-2009, 04:23 PM
Billy Crudup? Hmm...

batman44
04-03-2009, 06:45 PM
How about Hugh Dancy.

Changeling
04-03-2009, 10:24 PM
Hell nah.

Changeling
04-03-2009, 10:34 PM
Flemying would be good, but no to Crudup or Wenham

Blackman
04-09-2009, 10:05 PM
New casting suggestion: Jeremy Davies

Octoberist
04-09-2009, 10:35 PM
I have a question:

IN the final battle with Hal, do you guys think that Hector should show more hints of LEGION in him? I mean, his telekinesis is kinda random, esp if it came from Legion.

protocida
04-09-2009, 10:58 PM
I don't think so. Hal and the viewner alredy know he got his powers from Legion.

Blackman
04-25-2009, 11:17 PM
how bout TJ Thyne??

protocida
04-26-2009, 11:25 AM
Who?

Changeling
04-27-2009, 01:39 PM
Dude that TJ guy seems too unknown.

protocida
04-30-2009, 06:12 PM
I'll stick to Eric Bana: He played a murderer in Chopper and is playing a sci-fi villain in Star Trek. It's just combine both of them, add a realistic moustache (Maybe get rid of the Father subplot) and let Bana do his thing. His eyes are very creepy for me...

Blackman
04-30-2009, 06:30 PM
Why remove a subplot that is good with the film? Even without the father subplot Bana doesnt look naturally creepy at all.

protocida
04-30-2009, 06:54 PM
We're really on eachother's tails today. :hehe:

The subplot is not bad, but I feel it might be a little dumb for the main audience. I'd like to replace it with more depth to Hector himself, and how he becames what he is when he's given superpowers. The whole telephatic bullying, memory-theft, etc.

And, about Bana, to each with his own.

dnno1
04-30-2009, 06:58 PM
how bout TJ Thyne??

Who?

Dude that TJ guy seems too unknown.

Thyne was recently in "Bones" with David Boreanaz. He played a character named Dr. Jack Hodgins.

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protocida
04-30-2009, 07:00 PM
Sorry, I don't watch Bones. :csad:

dnno1
04-30-2009, 07:03 PM
Sorry, I don't watch Bones. :csad:

I don't really either, but I just knew. Personally, I would want a more prominent actor to play that type of role. It seems that those types of films work better when you do it that way (ala Superman, Batman 89 & TDK, Spiderman I, X-Men, et. al.).

Wesley Dodds
04-30-2009, 07:08 PM
Michael Sheen would be a wonderful Hector Hammond.

I always wanted him to be The Riddler in the next Batman flick but that probably aint gonna happen.
He's one of the most talented new actors around and it's about time he turned up in something thats not a biopic or based on a true story.
He needs a place in a comic book franchise, badly...

protocida
05-01-2009, 12:21 PM
White temples: Yes or No?

Changeling
05-01-2009, 03:56 PM
:woot:No!

protocida
05-01-2009, 04:21 PM
Damn straight! :up:

Changeling
05-03-2009, 05:48 PM
:D! And Paul Giamatti or Thewlis for mehself!

protocida
05-03-2009, 06:24 PM
Hum... No.

He-Man
07-13-2009, 04:01 PM
Jon Hamm

Keyser Soze
07-13-2009, 04:08 PM
Jon Hamm

Hamm was a popular choice for Sinestro, and I wanted him for Hal Jordan. Are we going to suggest him for every role in the movie? :woot:

Dark Knight
07-13-2009, 04:09 PM
Peter Sarsgaard or Michael Sheen as Hector Hammond!

Wesley Dodds
07-13-2009, 04:11 PM
Michael Sheen wouldn't be bad but He's my choice for The Riddler. Hes the perfect fit for that role.

Chris B
07-13-2009, 04:46 PM
I still think Giamatti would be cool.

cerealkiller182
07-13-2009, 04:49 PM
Is Hammond supposed to be somewhat good looking before his whole big headed thing? I thought they were bit of romantic rivals before his transformation? Granted most of my reading of pre-dome Hammond was Johns Secret Origins arc, so Im not sure what the script or original version was like.

I love Giamatti, but it would be hard to think he could compete with Ryan Reynolds and be the bad guy.

Lobo
07-13-2009, 04:52 PM
They're no rivals in the script. Hammond is basically just this really creepy doctor. Of course that could have changed in later drafts, and they take cues from Johns. If they did, I'd want Hammond to be played by Jon Hamm.

Dark Knight
07-13-2009, 04:58 PM
Peter Sarsgaard!

Keyser Soze
07-13-2009, 05:32 PM
Though he doesn't look exactly like the Hector Hammond of the comics, I think Paul Giamatti would be great in the role. And I think he could play off Reynolds really well.

Doctor Jones
07-13-2009, 05:41 PM
In order to develop Hammond more (who in the script is only a whiney dude who wants to impress daddy) what do you think they have to do?

I'd want Hector and Hal to be the opposites. The potential here is that Hal thinks he doesn't have everything but can't see it, Hammond thinks he has everything but doesn't, Hal has no father and wishes he was here, Hammond has a father and can't please him. That sort of thing could be great if they get it right.

I still have no idea who could play him. But no Karl Urban. Just because he playe a "doctor" in ST. Oh ha ha. Very inspired and original. Maybe it's because his character wasn't strong enough that I couldn't think of anyone.

StorminNorman
07-13-2009, 05:51 PM
The best way to develop Hammond more is rewrite the script. He is an incredibly weak villain. The parallels to Iron Man continue as Iron Monger was one of the weakest villains in modern comic movie history (of no fault of Jeff Bridges).

Doctor Jones
07-13-2009, 06:37 PM
Stane was excellent I thought. He was better than how Hammond was.

Yeah, I just think Hammond will need the most work. Legion has to be in there for screentime of the corps and that's a great subplot.

The Tom scenes are great, just rewrite some of the humor. At first I imagined a fat guy but Rainn Wilson would make an interesting choice. Kind of what he did in TF2.

Dark Knight
07-13-2009, 06:42 PM
Peter Sarsgaard has that weasily look to him and he is a good actor as well. He would fit the profile of Hammond IMO.

It also looks like his schedule is open on IMDB, at least for now. He is also the right age for Hammond I believe.

batsfan81
07-13-2009, 07:54 PM
What about Jeffrey Wright? He worked with Campbell on Casino Royale.

IDrawDeadPeople
07-13-2009, 08:04 PM
I was actually just thinking Jeffrey Wright. He would do a wonderful job in the role, Campbell knows him, and he wouldn't cost a small fortune to get, which saves money for Daniel Day Lewis for Sinestro.

Not that I think that last bit is at all reality. Just wishing out loud.

Doctor Jones
07-13-2009, 10:41 PM
Yeah, the day Lewis does a comic book film is the day when I can dance like Michael Jackson.

DannyDreg
07-13-2009, 11:53 PM
I like Paul Giamatti, he'd be a good fit. Michael C. Hall has been mentioned in other forums, too.

And I was thinking about another name, someone that I believe wasn't mentioned before-- Rainn Wilson.

Dark Knight
07-14-2009, 12:40 AM
yeah, the day lewis does a comic book film is the day when i can dance like michael jackson.



lol!

Octoberist
07-14-2009, 01:52 AM
I like Paul Giamatti, he'd be a good fit. Michael C. Hall has been mentioned in other forums, too.

And I was thinking about another name, someone that I believe wasn't mentioned before-- Rainn Wilson.

Michael C. Hal would be good but why Rainn Wilson?

DannyDreg
07-14-2009, 08:07 AM
Michael C. Hal would be good but why Rainn Wilson?

He sorta looks like the loser type that would get drunk with power after getting his new abilities, and he proved that he can play the smug type in ROTF...Also just adding a new name into the mix. I'd be thrilled to have Giamatti or Hall in the part tho.

Keyser Soze
07-14-2009, 10:45 AM
The more I think on it, the more I like Giamatti for the part. Thinking back to that first draft, I can just picture Reynolds and hear his voice and delivery in the Hal Jordan role. Similarly, thinking back to Hector Hammond's part, I can just see Giamatti and hear his laconic delivery.

Webhead2006
07-14-2009, 01:44 PM
I would be down with rainn or giamatti for the role. But first we need to know how they are going to be portraying the character in the film. Since some guys are perfect for one version of the character, while others are better for a different version of the character.

Octoberist
07-14-2009, 02:44 PM
He sorta looks like the loser type that would get drunk with power after getting his new abilities, and he proved that he can play the smug type in ROTF...Also just adding a new name into the mix. I'd be thrilled to have Giamatti or Hall in the part tho.

But I think Hector should be somewhat good looking. And for some reason, I wouldn't mind Giamatti as Hector though.

Doctor Jones
07-14-2009, 03:24 PM
Not Rainn as Hammond. He's too well known on The office to be taken seriously as a villain.

Octoberist
07-14-2009, 03:27 PM
i agree.

Doctor Jones
07-14-2009, 03:48 PM
And you also need to take into consideration. Hammond will have the big ass head. Can you imagine Wilson with that head? Everybody would roar with laughter in the theater.

That's another thing. Don't go Leader sized head. Make it bigger than the average head but not make it laughable.

Octoberist
07-14-2009, 03:48 PM
hehe. The image of Rainn having a huge ass head made me laugh. He would be the real life Dwight bobble head!

Doctor Jones
07-15-2009, 09:08 AM
Exactly. No one could take that seriously.

GL being shown his weakness as yellow and Wilson with a big ass head will fail with audiences. It'll be a joke to them.

Wesley Dodds
07-15-2009, 09:14 AM
Apparently, It's never referred to as 'Yellow' though. Just the 'The Impurity'... Which is a good idea.
I liked the idea of Wilson as Hammond for a while but now i've come to my senses.

Leland Orser would be a cool Hammond. Just stick a moustache on him and he's ready to go...

Keyser Soze
07-15-2009, 09:14 AM
And you also need to take into consideration. Hammond will have the big ass head. Can you imagine Wilson with that head? Everybody would roar with laughter in the theater.

That's another thing. Don't go Leader sized head. Make it bigger than the average head but not make it laughable.

I disagree. I say go to the opposite extreme. Let it grow to a laughable\Leader-sized big head, then keep on going and going with it until it becomes something hideous and grotesque:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/JokerSoze/HectorHammond3.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/JokerSoze/HectorHammond1.png

Hammond should be a CGI creation by the end.

Octoberist
07-15-2009, 03:08 PM
I'm against Rainn Wilson because people will not take him seriously because of The Office.

Hector should be a decent looking dude.

protocida
07-15-2009, 03:15 PM
I'm not a fan of the big head. And Wilson might have auditioned for the role.

Octoberist
07-15-2009, 03:22 PM
well, i mean...Hector has a huge head. that was always his thing.

Doctor Jones
07-15-2009, 04:17 PM
It shouldn't be too big. Could it be grotesque? Yes, but first people will have to laugh at it. It just wouldn't pass on film looking like that. It's too much. The audience would only think, 'That's it? His enemy is a guy with a big ass head?"

All I'm saying it don't be surprised if they go with a different look. Maybe it can be bigger in different places, not all over.

Octoberist
07-15-2009, 04:19 PM
i think it has to be big enough where it's weird looking but not too big to the point where it looks silly.

I think The Leader's head size is good enough. And to be honest, I think this is the closest we'll get to The Leader anyway.

Keyser Soze
07-15-2009, 04:47 PM
But that's Hector Hammond's whole thing, that's what makes him different from just a generic telepath/telekenetic. He's got a huge, monstrous head, and a tiny, shrivelled, useless body. That's who Hector Hammond is. If they think having a guy with a big head be the villain is too silly, they're as well just not using Hammond.

I'm not saying he should be like that for the whole movie. The idea in the first draft of him starting out normal looking, and getting progressively more deformed until he looks like the pictures above the last time he's seen in the film works just fine.

Octoberist
07-15-2009, 07:44 PM
i think it should work fine visually; and Legion does balance things out with the rogue gallery.

Doctor Jones
07-16-2009, 09:11 AM
But that's Hector Hammond's whole thing, that's what makes him different from just a generic telepath/telekenetic. He's got a huge, monstrous head, and a tiny, shrivelled, useless body. That's who Hector Hammond is. If they think having a guy with a big head be the villain is too silly, they're as well just not using Hammond.

I'm not saying he should be like that for the whole movie. The idea in the first draft of him starting out normal looking, and getting progressively more deformed until he looks like the pictures above the last time he's seen in the film works just fine.

Oh, yeah I forgot about that in the script. Hmm, maybe it could work then. But when he finally has the big ass head in the finale it has to work. This will prove that he is an evil bastard and the audience can't laugh at a guy trying to act evil with a luaghably big head.

But what should be haunting is when Hammond is in the prison being contained and practically brain dead

That-Guy
07-16-2009, 11:23 AM
It's strange that GL's most recognizable ememies (Sinestro and Hammond) but have big foreheads and pencil thin mustaches.

Octoberist
07-16-2009, 01:06 PM
Yeah, I often wondered why that is the case? Big foreheads and mustaches equals evil?

I also wonder why Hector never had...a supervillain nickname.

That-Guy
07-16-2009, 03:01 PM
Yeah, I wonder what it would be. Bobblehead?

Octoberist
07-17-2009, 04:14 AM
I disagree. I say go to the opposite extreme. Let it grow to a laughable\Leader-sized big head, then keep on going and going with it until it becomes something hideous and grotesque:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/JokerSoze/HectorHammond3.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/JokerSoze/HectorHammond1.png

Hammond should be a CGI creation by the end.

Ever since I was a kid, I was terrified of the big headed dudes from The Neverending Story (though they were only background characters). If Hector's head can be scary (and surreal looking), I'm all for it!

Doctor Jones
07-17-2009, 09:23 AM
Well, are they still scary now to you?

It depends. It has to be a cross of being grotesque and scary. It doesn't matter what he does, if they get it wrong, they're gonna have a laughable villain on their hands.

The GA doesn't think like us. They process what's on the screen in front of them and don't think any further. Not saying that they're stupid, but they just won't think the same way as us. If they laugh the first time they see it, we're doomed. And I can gaurentee you, there will be at least a giggle.

Keyser Soze
07-17-2009, 09:33 AM
Well, are they still scary now to you?

It depends. It has to be a cross of being grotesque and scary. It doesn't matter what he does, if they get it wrong, they're gonna have a laughable villain on their hands.

The GA doesn't think like us. They process what's on the screen in front of them and don't think any further. Not saying that they're stupid, but they just won't think the same way as us. If they laugh the first time they see it, we're doomed. And I can gaurentee you, there will be at least a giggle.

If the studios were so terrified over putting anything on-screen that might make a non-fanboy viewer snicker, Green Lantern as a project would never have gotten off the ground.

That-Guy
07-17-2009, 10:57 AM
Ever since I was a kid, I was terrified of the big headed dudes from The Neverending Story (though they were only background characters). If Hector's head can be scary (and surreal looking), I'm all for it!

LOL, those dudes used to freak me out too, along with the giant faces of the Elders of Krypton in the first Superman movie.

Octoberist
07-17-2009, 02:53 PM
LOL, those dudes used to freak me out too, along with the giant faces of the Elders of Krypton in the first Superman movie.

anything with big head faces/heads scare me!

Webhead2006
07-17-2009, 03:36 PM
Will be very interesting to see which way they decide to go with hammond and any large head look to him.

Octoberist
07-17-2009, 05:16 PM
my theory is that he's gonna have a large head, but it won't be as big as those pics above. Maybe near the end when he's in a comatose state but that's it. Maybe make-up can take care of that.

I think what will make Hector creepy is if his body was limp, along with his eyes. If his eyes look dead, then he would be scary.

cerealkiller182
07-17-2009, 05:18 PM
They could always go with a vein-y head like in Johns Secret Origin arc

Webhead2006
07-17-2009, 05:21 PM
do u got a pic of that cerealkiller?

cerealkiller182
07-17-2009, 05:24 PM
do u got a pic of that cerealkiller?

It got bigger by the end of the story, but this is how it started. Just thinking that it might be easier to manage on screen.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9011/477369hh.jpg

Webhead2006
07-17-2009, 06:29 PM
ok thanks for the posting of the pic. I agree doing that first might work out better for them and then maybe see head growing a big bigger.

Octoberist
07-17-2009, 06:32 PM
funny how i'm starting to warm up to Hector as a villain. I think he'll be a fun baddie to deal with.

Webhead2006
07-17-2009, 06:39 PM
Yea hopefully the drawbacks the character was in the first draft have been taken into account and they made him a better character.

Chris B
07-17-2009, 06:39 PM
My two cents on the look is that his head should be clearly bigger than avarage with a few areas protruding out with veins looking like they're ready to burst.

Webhead2006
07-17-2009, 06:41 PM
that sounds cool chris.

Chris B
07-17-2009, 06:45 PM
that sounds cool chris.

Thanks. :yay:

Octoberist
07-17-2009, 08:06 PM
i think veins can help with his look. maybe some drool too :)

Webhead2006
07-17-2009, 11:53 PM
yea hopefully they come up with something that wont look silly or cheesy. We dont want to have that happen in the film first go around.

littlerivers
07-25-2009, 01:58 PM
Karl Urban should be Hector Hammond.

http://karl-urban.net/715885.jpg

protocida
07-25-2009, 02:06 PM
Karl Urban should be Hector Hammond.

http://karl-urban.net/715885.jpg
Damn right.

Wesley Dodds
07-25-2009, 02:10 PM
I'd like that a lot!

Eddie Dean
07-25-2009, 02:30 PM
I wonder how old they'll bee wiling to go for Hammond because I'd love to see Jeffrey Combs. Maybe if the movie was made 10 years ago.

Doctor Jones
07-25-2009, 06:38 PM
Urban is just sticking with me for some reason. But Urban playing the Hammond we got in the first draft it wouldn't go over so well. Urban is tough but playing a whiney ***** like Hammond was in the script it would be off.

Wesley Dodds
07-25-2009, 06:40 PM
Well, he is an actor.

protocida
07-25-2009, 09:21 PM
Urban would be perfect. And Hammond is a one-movie character, so, eventual sequels wouldn't hurt his envolvment with the Star Trek franchise.

Eddie Dean
07-25-2009, 09:28 PM
I'd really like to see Hammond utilized in an almost Hannibal Lector type way through out the franchise. Taunting Hal with his huge head and being a threat behind bars.

Octoberist
07-29-2009, 12:35 AM
I like him as a Hannbial Lector type where he's almost a fun/whimsical character without being cheesy.

Doctor Jones
07-29-2009, 10:05 AM
Urban would be great but the problem is Hammond is one dimensional in the script, I'm sure it's been fixed, I hope it is. I'd be down with it. Urban with a bigass head? Count me in! And he could add emotional weight to the character where he could lack.

protocida
07-29-2009, 06:00 PM
And they're identical. :hehe:

Keyser Soze
09-23-2009, 11:25 AM
Bit of a left-field choice, but how about Sharlto Copley of District 9 fame for Hammond?

EDIT: On second thoughts, not a good choice. It didn't occur to me that he's already portrayed a smarmy pencil-pusher who gets exposed to an alien chemical, causing him to gradually mutate into a new, monstrous form.

Changeling
09-25-2009, 05:15 PM
My top 5:

Paul Giamatti
David Thewlis
Peter Saarsgard
Brad Dourif
Karl Urban

Doctor Jones
09-26-2009, 04:42 PM
Yes, I've sparked a new choice.

Changeling
09-26-2009, 10:12 PM
Yupp

Octoberist
10-07-2009, 01:59 PM
what about..Mark Ruffalo as Hector?

Webhead2006
10-08-2009, 12:44 AM
could work.

Antonello Blueberry
10-08-2009, 07:57 AM
I'm still of the opinion that this is a role for a comedic actor.
Bill Hader?
http://images.fearnet.com/fearnetImages/im5Q7oVi6en6P7QlDvkotV5Q==.jpg

Rainn Wilson?
http://www.daemonstv.com/images/nbc/rainn_wilson1.jpg

Octoberist
10-08-2009, 11:03 AM
the problem with that is that you're taking a character who has the potential to be silly (dude with big head) and casting a comedic actor doesn't help.

But out of the two, I would pick Hader.

Keyser Soze
10-08-2009, 12:06 PM
Some people are already thinking "comedy" because of Ryan Reynolds being cast as Green Lantern. Casting another actor known for his comedic roles as the villain wouldn't help that preconception.

Changeling
10-08-2009, 03:37 PM
How about James Caviezel as Hammond?

Changeling
10-08-2009, 03:41 PM
Bill Hader and Rainn Wilson would both be excellent IMO! Nice choices, man!

Doctor Jones
10-08-2009, 03:46 PM
I still can't get Hader as Phil Sectre out of my head.

cerealkiller182
10-09-2009, 11:54 PM
Some people are already thinking "comedy" because of Ryan Reynolds being cast as Green Lantern. Casting another actor known for his comedic roles as the villain wouldn't help that preconception.

I dont think so at all. Comedic actors many times make excellent actors. Look at the Informant. Lots of comedians, great performances in an uniquely pitched tone. Dramatic and funny all at the same time, something Green lantern probably would have been with or without Ryan Reynolds


That said Hader could be a cool choice

Lobo
10-09-2009, 11:57 PM
Has anyone suggested Giovanni Ribisi as Hammond yet?

Octoberist
10-10-2009, 12:28 AM
good one actually. i like it!

Antonello Blueberry
10-10-2009, 10:35 AM
Some people are already thinking "comedy" because of Ryan Reynolds being cast as Green Lantern. Casting another actor known for his comedic roles as the villain wouldn't help that preconception.
The movie's not going to be dark, but close in tone to Iron Man.
And you can't play too seriously a guy with a giant head, you have to play it in a slightly ironic way.

Doctor Jones
10-10-2009, 11:44 AM
I have to agree with Keysor here. Firstly, we have to introduce the more serious Reynolds to the masses (lets face it, how many people have seen The Nines?) and anyway, he's done alot more comedy. Then having a comedian playing a villain with a big head, which could be a funny thing of its own wouldn't be the smart thing to do.

Webhead2006
10-10-2009, 12:48 PM
i am sure the film will find a good balance between the drama/scifi/fantasy stuff and comedy. It will probably be like im/tih and less like tdk.

Changeling
10-10-2009, 02:10 PM
Im down for a comedic actor..

Dark Knight
10-10-2009, 04:17 PM
Where is Peter Sarsgaard on this LOUSY poll? LOL

Keyser Soze
10-10-2009, 04:48 PM
The movie's not going to be dark, but close in tone to Iron Man.
And you can't play too seriously a guy with a giant head, you have to play it in a slightly ironic way.

I think the opposite, in fact. BECAUSE Hammond's a guy with a giant head, BECAUSE it's something that can so easily be ridiculous, it's all the more important to play it straight. If you have someone who plays it with a knowing wink, someone who tells us that it IS ridiculous and encourages us to laugh, then you're lost.

No one's saying pitch it TDK-dark, but you have to believe in the story you're telling. Green Lantern is a character who has long had to contend with assumptions his world is incredibly stupid, even by superhero standards. So getting a comedy actor, and hoping they play the part with irony, would be like the studio saying they don't have faith in the movie being credible sci-fi, and it can only work as a farce. The Jack Black Green Lantern comedy script was reportedly full of apologetic references to how inherently stupid the concepts at play were, and we all know how that was recieved.

That said, if they get a talented enough comedic actor, I'd be happy for them to do a Robin Williams in Insomnia and shock us with a deadly-serious, frightening performance, all the more jarring because it comes from a known comedian. But don't hire a comedy actor because you've just decided the character can never be taken seriously.

Changeling
10-10-2009, 05:42 PM
Where is Peter Sarsgaard on this LOUSY poll? LOL

Yeah the poll needs a major overhaul

Changeling
10-12-2009, 06:30 AM
Peter Saarsgard
Giovanni Ribisi
Bill Hader
Rainn Wilson
Brad Dourif
David Thewlis
Paul Giamatti
Andy Serkis

I'd be happy with any of these

Webhead2006
10-12-2009, 01:57 PM
hopefully we will know by the end of the year who is some of the other leads. That would be great.

Octoberist
10-12-2009, 01:59 PM
hector will probably the closest thing to a big screen version of The Leader, if Incredible Hulk 2 doesn't get made.

Octoberist
11-06-2009, 01:37 PM
The more I think about it, the more I like Giovanni Ribisi as Hector. He too has a big head.