Episode 12 - 'Deep Cover for Batman!' Discussion Thread [Archive]

Mister J

01-30-2009, 11:04 AM

Batman swaps places with Owlman -- his criminal counterpart in an alternate Universe -- to stop the Crime Syndicate from taking over the world.

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0902/20/index.htm
Warner Bros. Animation has released a description, clip and 33 images from a two-part episode of Batman: The Brave and the Bold on Cartoon Network.

"Deep Cover for Batman!" kicks off the two-parter on Friday, March 6, with "Game Over for Owlman!" concluding the story on Friday, March 13.

Here's how Warner Bros.. describes the episodes:

"When parallel worlds collide, Batman swaps places with Owlman -- his criminal counterpart in an alternate universe -- to stop the Crime Syndicate from taking over their world. Crime fighters in one world must battle their evil counterparts in a crime spree melee. Meanwhile back on Earth, Owlman has been perpetrating crimes disguised as Batman and assembled all the villains to join him. When Batman returns, he finds himself on the wrong side of the law and hunted by Green Lantern, Aquaman, Blue Beetle, Red Tornado and Plastic Man. It¹s a strange twist of fate that leaves Batman with only one option - to team up with Joker and take Owlman and the Crime Syndicate down!"

The voice cast includes Diedrich Bader as Batman/Owlman, Jeff Bennett as Red Hood/The Joker, James Sie as Dyna-Mite, Corey Burton as Red Tornado/Silver Cyclone, Will Friedle as Blue Beetle/Scarlet Scarab and James Arnold Taylor as Green Arrow/Blue Bowman.

The story was written by Joseph Kuhr, and the episodes were directed by Michael Chang and Ben Jones.
Airing: February 27
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I think this may be the first 'official' appearance for the CSA, not accouting for the appeaances of comparable groups in the old SuperFriends shows or the Justice Lords in JLU.

jondoe297

02-12-2009, 11:17 AM

Hey all, I've been passed an exclusive first look at the RED HOOD, from the upcoming episode "Deep Cover Batman!", which is due to air in the US on Feb 27th according to a recent viewing of this episode at last weekends NYCC...

http://gothamknightsonline.blogspot.com/2009/02/exclusive-first-look-red-hood-from.html

SHADOWBAT69

02-12-2009, 03:47 PM

Really looking forward to this episode

Cain

02-12-2009, 04:17 PM

Whoa!:wow:

Superman Prime

02-12-2009, 06:49 PM

Seeing Owlman will be a treat for sure.

bryanss3

02-12-2009, 07:35 PM

I really thought I was going to hate this show but I'm loving it, I wish it had the timmverse but ehh no biggie. really excited for this episode.

Superman Prime

02-13-2009, 02:56 AM

I'm actually glad to get away from the Timmverse for once.

SuperFerret

02-13-2009, 03:02 AM

I'm actually glad to get away from the Timmverse for once.

Yeah, it's refreshing for a bit of change. Like occasionally having a calzone after eating pizza for a while.

Yes, I compared the show to a calzone. It works, it's full of cheese but good nonetheless.

Daredevil_2003

02-13-2009, 05:08 AM

Yeah, it's refreshing for a bit of change. Like occasionally having a calzone after eating pizza for a while.

Yes, I compared the show to a calzone. It works, it's full of cheese but good nonetheless.:funny:

I'm actually pretty excited about this one. I heard Robin's showing up in one or both of the parts. That fo' real? If so, I'm even more interested. I wonder if they're gonna do the bare-leg, pixie boots version? :hehe:

SuperFerret

02-13-2009, 05:19 AM

:funny:

I'm actually pretty excited about this one. I heard Robin's showing up in one or both of the parts. That fo' real? If so, I'm even more interested. I wonder if they're gonna do the bare-leg, pixie boots version? :hehe:

Why wouldn't they use the classic Robin?

Daredevil_2003

02-13-2009, 05:31 AM

Why wouldn't they use the classic Robin?Because most versions of the last twenty years have avoided it like the plague?

There's nothing wrong with it for this silver age take, I wasn't saying that at all. I'd love to see it, given the context of this show. I'm just wondering if they'll actually do it or update to be a little more in line with the Tim Drake costume, is all.

SuperFerret

02-13-2009, 05:38 AM

True, I keep forgetting that they use newer characters too. To be honest, it's Ollie that confuses me, seeing him clean shaven makes me think it's not a modern portrayal of the DCU.

bryanss3

02-13-2009, 07:22 AM

I'm actually glad to get away from the Timmverse for once.

I understand why, I prefer it over this style, but I hope eventually Marvel and DC animation get a more comic look. But I really like this show regardless I mean where else do you get this much Guy Gardner. Also I really liked the Blue Beetle stuff I'd love it if that great new character with the canceled book could get some sort of spin off show(but he won't poor Jaimé)

Duskbyday

02-14-2009, 06:15 AM

OMG! Red Hood is appearing! So is Robin! So is OwlMan! This episode wil be the best episodes in the season. Maybe an appearance of Joker

I'm actually surprised how fun this show is!

RonStoppablefan

02-14-2009, 10:04 PM

I saw one episode and now I'm hooked. This episode sounds awesome.

Spider-Jim

02-19-2009, 10:45 PM

New images, a video clip, and more all at WF:

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=375

Mistah K88

02-20-2009, 12:15 PM

I LOVE that Joker...Owlman's Batman suit looks cool...I kinda wish that is what the real Batman looked like.

Daredevil_2003

02-20-2009, 02:16 PM

Duskbyday

02-20-2009, 02:46 PM

Joker's hideous, IMO, but I like all the other designs.

This one pic is great:

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8084/bb11iq6.jpgWhat do we have here, from left to right? Wild West Batman? Miller-Bat, Kelly Jones, BATB, ???, Gotham By Gaslight?, and uhhh...Mars Attacks Batman? :hehe:

You're close That Gotham by Gaslight Batman is actually a pirate batman from a short series. That mechanical one is from a short lived comic as well but I can't remember which.

Nice idea for Batman and Joker to team up. Shame no batvillains except him and clock king. More info here: http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0902/20/index.htm

GamerSlyRatchet

02-21-2009, 12:14 AM

You're close That Gotham by Gaslight Batman is actually a pirate batman from a short series. That mechanical one is from a short lived comic as well but I can't remember which.

Nice idea for Batman and Joker to team up. Shame no batvillains except him and clock king. More info here: http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0902/20/index.htm

Technically, Clock King is a Green Arrow villain, not Batman. However, Cavalier and Kite Man have shown up, and expect Riddler, Catwoman, and Zebra-Man to appear in the second season.

Duskbyday

02-21-2009, 03:34 AM

Technically, Clock King is a Green Arrow villain, not Batman. However, Cavalier and Kite Man have shown up, and expect Riddler, Catwoman, and Zebra-Man to appear in the second season.

Forgot about Cavalier and Kiteman. I consider Clock King both a Batman and Green Arrow villain. Come on Mr.freeze!

Bathead

02-21-2009, 09:26 AM

Joker's hideous, IMO, but I like all the other designs.

This one pic is great:

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8084/bb11iq6.jpgWhat do we have here, from left to right? Wild West Batman? Miller-Bat, Kelly Jones, BATB, ???, Gotham By Gaslight?, and uhhh...Mars Attacks Batman? :hehe:

Actually, the really big fella is likely Bat-Hulk. You heard me right, There really once was a Bat-Hulk, back in the day. Can't remember the story, and I don't think it was any kind of DC-Marvel X-over, but I had the comic and Bat-Hulk is definitely for real, and that pic looks like I remember it.

robinjr

02-22-2009, 12:25 AM

Hey does anyone know where robin was confirmed? I heard he'd be in the series and he'd be Dick Grayson but the sooner he shows up the better!

Duskbyday

02-22-2009, 01:45 AM

Hey does anyone know where robin was confirmed? I heard he'd be in the series and he'd be Dick Grayson but the sooner he shows up the better!

He is in the 2nd part of the two-parter. His name is mentioned in the episode description.

Mister J

02-22-2009, 01:47 AM

God, I'm looking forward to this.

Two-Face=Badass

02-22-2009, 03:14 AM

God, I'm looking forward to this.
Same, I don't think my excitement could actually be summed up in words.
Does this come out next week or do we have another annoying two week break?

Mister J

02-22-2009, 03:45 AM

Two-Face=Badass

02-22-2009, 05:05 AM

The preview info I pulled from Comics Continuum, which is direct from WB Animation/Cartoon Network, says this ep is scheduled for March 6. However, my cable guide has it listed for this coming Friday. Needless to say, I hope it's the latter.

I imagine something will be confirmed by Tuesday at the latest.
Ah, thanks. Definitely hoping for the latter.

World's Finest has a review up btw, non-spoiler thankfully, and even more thankfully overwhelmingly positive (did we really expect any less?). Sounds absolutely incredible, and after his description in the review I can't wait to see the joker, he sounds hilarious.

3dman27

02-22-2009, 10:46 AM

to bad cn didn't schedule the eps back to back as a FULL HOUR of brave and bold

Temple Fugate

02-22-2009, 11:22 AM

can someone youtube the clip please my computer doesnt like the in site video :(

also epic pic is epic

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/bravebold/guides/reviews/13gameover/04.jpg

3dman27

02-22-2009, 03:44 PM

Actually, the really big fella is likely Bat-Hulk. You heard me right, There really once was a Bat-Hulk, back in the day. Can't remember the story, and I don't think it was any kind of DC-Marvel X-over, but I had the comic and Bat-Hulk is definitely for real, and that pic looks like I remember it.
you 're not thinking of BLOCKBUSTER are you

Drz

02-22-2009, 04:43 PM

Joker looks freaking fantastic! Also i really like how Owlman's Batman costume resembles the very 1st Batman costume, since in the very first comics Batman did kill people. >:3

TruerToTheCore

02-22-2009, 05:26 PM

Dick Sprang-styled Joker! Finally again!

Bathead

02-23-2009, 03:23 AM

you 're not thinking of BLOCKBUSTER are you

Nope. 100% positively there was a Bat-Hulk, as I said, I had the comic. Don't remember much more than the cover, (it was about 40 years ago) looked like that large fella in the above pic, only the costume was a little ripped up.

3dman27

02-23-2009, 06:06 AM

who's the white gorrila batman works with against the CSA,grodd?

Duskbyday

02-23-2009, 12:42 PM

[quote=3dman27;16491037]who's the white gorrila batman works with against the CSA,grodd?[/quote

Yes, because they are good and in an alternate universe thier colours (like the heroes) are reversed. Thats why Gentlemen Gohst is black not white and other examples

3dman27

02-23-2009, 03:19 PM

and why sinestro is the gold lantern

robinjr

02-23-2009, 04:15 PM

He is in the 2nd part of the two-parter. His name is mentioned in the episode description.
could I have a link please?

Two-Face=Badass

02-24-2009, 01:12 AM

Preview scene with the Joker!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-iDLwSrkx4

Oh my goodness! This is going to be the greatest two parter ever. Joker is suitably hilarious (I especially love the "What's this one do?" bit) and his voice rocks!

C'mon Friday!

Drz

02-24-2009, 01:50 AM

C'mon Friday indeed!!!

Mister J

02-24-2009, 02:08 AM

Old school Batmobile. :applaud :up:

Joker looks to be a riot. :D

Man, I'm trying hard to not get too excited for this. It looks so promising though.

Two-Face=Badass

02-24-2009, 02:55 AM

Man, I'm trying hard to not get too excited for this. It looks so promising though.
No, you must give in to the excitement, BATB never disappoints :woot:

Apparently the Riddler gets a mention too. Robin is also confirmed right?

Drz

02-24-2009, 03:05 AM

Mister J

02-24-2009, 03:10 AM

Indeedy. Wiki has changed their format, so I can't access it the same way, but there were outside links pointing to Robin (I believe in the teaser), as well as the Riddler mention. Although, I can't be positive of which ep of the two-parter either correlates to the two-parter.

Two-Face=Badass

02-24-2009, 03:13 AM

I think the old description was that Robin would aid Batman, but it seems it was all along the Joker. =D Btw what is Robin's silver age origin story? Will we see him as a circus kid whos parents get killed? This show was allowed to show Bruce's origin so i'm certain they can show 2 adults falling to their deaths.
If what you say is true and Robin doesn't appear in the ep (probably for the best considering how many other characters are included) then I do hope he appears with his origin in real time. That would make Batman's comment about Green Arrow being "person he's most happy to have by his side" ring better, and it'd be nice to see Robin brought in.

Anyway, because my last vid didn't excite Mr J enough, have another featuring the awesome Red Hood:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYqRdxV-NXk&feature=channel

Drz

02-24-2009, 09:22 AM

At 1st i was abit meh with Owlman's design judging from mere pictures alone, but in animation its wonderfully awesome, his gadgets included!

Temple Fugate

02-24-2009, 06:18 PM

o-iDLwSrkx4&feature=channel

i approve

Spidey328

02-25-2009, 07:42 PM

ComicBookResources.com has Two Clips up:

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=video&show_id=63614

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=video&show_id=63610

I haven't watch every episode of the series but from what I have seen it is a fun and excellent show. Definitely will be watching this 2-Part episode!

Drz

02-25-2009, 08:13 PM

Joker's motivation to help is awesome, i really like how they write the characters in the show.

Temple Fugate

02-25-2009, 08:14 PM

brilliant

maybe this will tide me over until the watchmen

ironman29758

02-25-2009, 08:43 PM

I like this animated Joker along side Mark Hamil Joker and Kevin Michael Richardson Joker.

3dman27

02-26-2009, 06:39 AM

Joker's motivation to help is awesome, i really like how they write the characters in the show.

why would joker help him ?you'd think the only place joker would help batman to is the grave

Drz

02-26-2009, 07:44 AM

Ofcourse Joker will most definatly double cross Batman but not before hes assure they are taking down owlman. :P

KingOfMars

02-26-2009, 04:07 PM

Two-Face=Badass

02-26-2009, 09:46 PM

why would joker help him ?you'd think the only place joker would help batman to is the grave
Why wouldn't Joker help is the better question. Joker doesn't hate Batman, and he only wants to kill him on his own terms, sometimes not at all. Joker is essentially Batman's biggest fan, why wouldn't he be angry at an impersonator?

3dman27

02-27-2009, 06:40 AM

Why wouldn't Joker help is the better question. Joker doesn't hate Batman, and he only wants to kill him on his own terms, sometimes not at all. Joker is essentially Batman's biggest fan, why wouldn't he be angry at an impersonator?

the JOKER is batman'S BIGGEST fan? boy is bat-mite gonna dispute THAT

3dman27

02-27-2009, 06:50 AM

we know what the opening theme is for batman the brave and the bold
i wonder how the theme for OWLMAN THE VILE AND THE VILLANOUS would sound?

Temple Fugate

02-27-2009, 07:42 PM

only 3.5 more hours

DJ Kornphlake

02-27-2009, 08:31 PM

Red Hood kicked ass in this show. I hope we'll see him again.

Temple Fugate

02-27-2009, 09:08 PM

i STILL HAVE TWO HOURS TO WAIT OMFG

the dmg

02-27-2009, 11:10 PM

So, Part I was a great episode. Red Hood was amazing.

Temple Fugate

02-28-2009, 12:54 AM

very nice

"I hope my parallel self will pay you back the favor"

Drz

02-28-2009, 10:35 AM

Awesome episode, the fightning was awesome, Gotham and Batcave and even the Owlnest were bloody awesome. Oh god i love this show.

November Rain

02-28-2009, 10:56 AM

wow, more joker in 90 seconds of clips than in the dark knight...

go figure...

Daredevil_2003

02-28-2009, 11:55 AM

That was an incredible episode! I'm chompin at the bit to see part 2 next week!

webs

02-28-2009, 12:01 PM

Wow..!!! can't wait for part 2.. This show is looking pretty promising..!

Mister J

02-28-2009, 12:25 PM

That was a real treat last night.

I liked all the homages/Easter Eggs here; Infinite Earths, New Frontier, Challenge of the Superfriends, the 60's show Batcave entrance, the Red Hood/Joker origin and the "I'm Batman" reference that's become part of the mythos since Keaton's utterance in 1989. There were probably a few that I missed or just don't recall right now, but I was grinning throughout he entire viewing.

I like what they did with the Injustice Syndicate, with the notable highlight on Blue Bowman (you just know Batman enjoyed smacking him around a little more than the others :woot:), Scarlet Scarab and Silver Cyclone. The role reversal there was good way to tie in numerous of the heroes and villains that have appeared so far in the series. It makes me look forward to how the versions in Batman's home world will respond next week. Great action in that last sequence too.

The conclusing episode shapes up exactly as you think it would, with Batman out to clear his name. A worthy cap on a most enjoyable first season. Can't wait. :up:

Mister J

02-28-2009, 12:40 PM

The preview has Owlman sporting a classic Bob Kane Batsuit, complete with the iconic pose from Detective Comics #33. :up:

Next week, THE JOKER! :joker: :D

Drz

02-28-2009, 01:05 PM

The preview has Owlman sporting a classic Bob Kane Batsuit

Yeah i really like that since in the first comics Batman used to kill, and this is an evil "batman" so. :)

DJ Kornphlake

02-28-2009, 01:18 PM

I liked the jab at Marvel with Earth 161 being full of zombies.

Duskbyday

02-28-2009, 01:31 PM

I liked the jab at Marvel with Earth 161 being full of zombies.

Yh, I saw tht too as well as the reference to Riddler and Comissioner Gordan. RED HOOD WAS AWESOME AND BADASS!!!! It seems in this alternate verse he is always frowning I think anyway(wait he sometimes grins, I guess both?). The best episode so far. I really can't wait for bob kane batman and Joker.
Quote from next episode:
Joker: "The Bat-Cave, (he gasps, seeing Joker tools) a section from moi! I knew you cared!"

Temple Fugate

02-28-2009, 01:40 PM

where does that quote come from?

Duskbyday

02-28-2009, 01:42 PM

Youtube clip of next episode.

Evil Twin

02-28-2009, 01:59 PM

Bat-Hulk is from The Brave and the Bold (first series) #68. See http://www.comics.org/details.lasso?id=20400

Drz

02-28-2009, 02:01 PM

Youtube clip of next episode.

Link please. =)

Spidey328

02-28-2009, 02:33 PM

Joker in Batcave:

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Drz

02-28-2009, 02:34 PM

"I knew you cared" =D

GamerSlyRatchet

02-28-2009, 03:13 PM

In the teaser, Red Hood attempts to use a dimensional device to send a message to Batman, but Injustice Syndicate members Owlman, Blue Bowman, Scarlet Scarab, and Silver Cyclone steal the device and beat up Red Hood, who manages to get away. The hero was badass in the teaser, but I'll get to that in the main episode.

In the main episode, we see Batman in Gotham City, heading home to his Bat-Cave after foiling The Riddler. However, he's forced to fight Owlman, who entered the cave through the device, and later imprisions him and takes his costume to travel to the other dimension and infiltrate the Injustice Syndicate. The Syndicate was well-written. I liked Owlman's design, probably my only favorite out of the alternate heroes we've seen. The rest of the Syndicate's designs were kinda dull. Just re-colorings. Their personalities were good though. I especially got a kick out of the Brainiac-like Cyclone, and the fact that Scarab was such a little psychopath. Liked his line about his "true heart of a hero".

Red Hood is one of the more interesting heroes we've seen for a while. He's the good version of the Joker. Disfigured and insane, but still determined to end crime. Jeff Bennett does a great job with him. The heroic versions of the villains were also re-colored, but at least Dr. Polaris and Black Manta were made to look like Red Tornado and Aquaman a bit. Creative.

Favorite bits in here include Scarlet Scarab's psychosis, the universe full of zombies, Batman's funhouse mirror of EVIL! comment, and the obligatory "I'm Batman" moment. Possibly the best out of the series, and part two looks more promising. Bring on The Joker!

NEXT WEEK: Hunted by the authorities and his superhero friends, Batman discovers that Owlman escaped while he was in the alternate universe, and has comitted crimes disguised as Batman. Now, Batman is forced to fight the police and his friends and team up with his hated enemy, The Joker, in order to stop Owlman and his army of supervillains.

3dman27

02-28-2009, 03:22 PM

i can guess how owlman got loose
alfred did it thinking his employer had been locked in his own detention cell

deathshead2

02-28-2009, 03:32 PM

i can guess how owlman got loose
alfred did it thinking his employer had been locked in his own detention cellOwlman most likely let himself out. Him and Batman are the same guy, so just like how batman can escape from every situation Owlman most likely can do the same.

ironman29758

02-28-2009, 03:49 PM

I'm watching it on You tube so I'll post what I think later

Temple Fugate

02-28-2009, 03:55 PM

Thank you for the video. Constant homages to the 60's with the giant clam and the awake spray

ironman29758

02-28-2009, 04:15 PM

I love this episode's Jokester/Red Hood origin being similar to the Joker.

FlawlessVictory

02-28-2009, 08:48 PM

Great episode. This show overall is a lot of fun. Loving the homages and variety of characters they are using. :up:

Duskbyday

03-01-2009, 03:07 AM

Joker in the batmobile.... the 50s one that is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83SkNX5Ko6A&feature=related

Cain

03-01-2009, 01:51 PM

I liked the fact that they went all multiverse this week. I'd say this episode is the one for the naysayers if they can't watch this and get the awesomeness of this show then they never will. Everything the show is good for this episode had from awesome action sequences to brilliant animation and a suprisingly engaging team up. I seriously did not expect Red Hood to be as cool as he was, talk about a character I'd love to see not just in this series again but in the comics as well.

I loved that they never showed him in all his "Jokerness" the only beef I had was Silver Cyclone. I thought the way Red Tornado has been handled on this series is kinda week and seeing his doppleganger have such a large role was equally dull. I'd have preferred the evil Aquaman in his place. Still though one of the top episodes for the season so far which is saying something cause there have been quite a few solid episodes this rookie season.

Next week's conclusion should be interesting and should finally get those who disliked this show cause all they know about the DCU is Batman's little corner of it to enjoy this with the rest of us due to the batvillains.

RonStoppablefan

03-02-2009, 04:29 AM

I liked the episode and I wasn't a fan at first it got me. Good action, good team ups, good animation good every thing. This weeks looks even more awesome.

JackN

03-02-2009, 04:20 PM

this has got ot be my favorite ep so far
back in the summer I thought I would hate this show as a dissapiontment to bat-fans
I watch the first ep and it was amazing It's nice to take a break from the timverse
anyway, i like how it incorporated his origin into this ep it's like joker accept he gets crazy and it's accedental not on purpose
can't wait till season finally oh, and bat-villians like riddler
bats was talking about him