2009 NFL Thread

[Immortalfire]

Who's going to be available?

Cassel? Pats aren't going to allow him to go to the Jets.
Leftwitch? He's a back up quarterback and too prone to being injured.
Stafford? Jets are too high up on the draft and would have to give up quite a bit to score that.
Garcia? I think his QB rating was better than Favre did this year.

Maybe they can get Culpepper from Detroit on some kind of discount.

[That-Guy]

Hmmm... yeah, Cassel would be a good fit for the Jets but it won't happen because of the division rivalry with New England. Leftwich is a good QB, but I don't see them taking him... I think that they'll want a bigger name and even though Byron put up solid numbers this year, it was only in two games.

[gogetter0587]

David Carr?

[Erzengel]

Carr was just resigned to the Giants.

[Double Down]

Derek Anderson might be the guy.

[Erzengel]

Hmmm... yeah, Cassel would be a good fit for the Jets but it won't happen because of the division rivalry with New England. Leftwich is a good QB, but I don't see them taking him... I think that they'll want a bigger name and even though Byron put up solid numbers this year, it was only in two games.

And he's prone to injury. He's a really good back up QB but I don't think he's good for an entire season.

[Excel]

:confused:

Rice only had 15 catches for 141 yards last season . What's "fantastic" about that?

By last season I meant to 2007; guess I am still in 2008 mode. As a rookie he lead the team in touchdowns. At 6'4 with good hands. He's fast with up's. He's a decent #2 behind Berrian on a team thats obviousy run 1st. And is he incredibly young, a 22 year old 2 year wide out.

Watch some of his film:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d802de8d1
^Mossed

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8034785f

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d803eba30

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8047d809

And he can pass too:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80450923

He reminds a lot of a young Plax.

[Matt]

My prediction: Favre will be out of retirement within 6 months and playing for San Fran.

[Excel]

My prediction: Favre will come oot of retirement and be ignored :o

[Raiden]

Hey. You won a Super Bowl less than a decade ago. Quit *****ing. My team is still running on fumes of something that happened 36 years ago. :cmad:

Fins' fans can't really complain because they are still doing better than Jets, who won their last title back in 1969 (or 50 years ago). :o

[Immortalfire]

My lord in heaven...I backed up the Tivo a ways...Favre is all ESPN has been talking about for past freakin hour. No top plays, no highlights. All Brett, all day. :dry:

[Raiden]

Who's going to be available?

Cassel? Pats aren't going to allow him to go to the Jets.
Leftwitch? He's a back up quarterback and too prone to being injured.
Stafford? Jets are too high up on the draft and would have to give up quite a bit to score that.
Garcia? I think his QB rating was better than Favre did this year.

I think Jeff Garcia is probably the best option. Give him a 1-year deal, and next year either try to get a QB from a very good QB draft class, or go for Cassel (who'd probably leave the Pats once Brady is healthy once again).

[ih8nyy]

My lord in heaven...I backed up the Tivo a ways...Favre is all ESPN has been talking about for past freakin hour. No top plays, no highlights. All Brett, all day. :dry:

Favre was jealous of all the attention A-Rod was getting. He had to make some sort of an announcement on something. In July he will be sick of the attention being paid to MLB, the NBA Playoffs and the Stanley Cup Finals and will have his agent inform the Jets he wants to come back. Then the 24 hour watch will start all over again.

Either that or he will sign endorsement deals with every major company in America ensuring he is always on one channel or another at every waking moment of the day.

[Raiden]

My lord in heaven...I backed up the Tivo a ways...Favre is all ESPN has been talking about for past freakin hour. No top plays, no highlights. All Brett, all day. :dry:

I think Favre will probably become ESPN's next NFL analyst (which I think they have 3 dozens of already). That way, they will stop talking about Favre and just let Favre talk all day long. :cwink:

[ih8nyy]

I think Favre will probably become ESPN's next NFL analyst (which I think they have 3 dozens of already). That way, they will stop talking about Favre and just let Favre talk all day long. :cwink:

Probably about himself.

[Dr. Evil]

I think Favre will probably become ESPN's next NFL analyst (which I think they have 3 dozens of already). That way, they will stop talking about Favre and just let Favre talk all day long. :cwink:

Nope. They will probably make "ESPN Favre" just for him. Live coverage of him brushing his teeth = massive ratings for ESPN Favre.

[ih8nyy]

Nope. They will probably make "ESPN Favre" just for him. Live coverage of him brushing his teeth = massive ratinsg for ESPN Favre.

:hehe:

[gogetter0587]

ESPN OCHO becomes ESPN Quatro

[That-Guy]

My prediction: Favre will be out of retirement within 6 months and playing for San Fran.

My prediction: Favre will be out of retirement within 6 months and playing for Detroit. After leading the Lions to a 5-11 comeback season, he'll retire again. 6 months after that, he'll come out of retirement to QB for Cleveland, leading them to a 4-12 season, ending with his retirement. 6 months later, Favre will join the Arena Football League, which will be reinstated by that time. He will start his own team, The Green Bay Favres. He will lead the team to a 1-13 season, and will retire thereafter. 6 months later...

[Raiden]

My prediction: Favre will be out of retirement within 6 months and playing for Detroit. After leading the Lions to a 5-11 comeback season, he'll retire again. 6 months after that, he'll come out of retirement to QB for Cleveland, leading them to a 4-12 season, ending with his retirement. 6 months later, Favre will join the Arena Football League, which will be reinstated by that time. He will start his own team, The Green Bay Favres. He will lead the team to a 1-13 season, and will retire thereafter. 6 months later...

Since Favre is from Mississippi, he'll call his team the Mississippi Favres. :word:

[Dr. Evil]

Since Favre is from Mississippi, he'll call his team the Mississippi Favres. :word:

With the color commentators being John Madden and Tony Kornheiser.

[wiegeabo]

Favre will get Sunday Night Football with Al Micheals. And Madden will get his own show analyzing the greatness of Favre's analysis.

[Immortalfire]

Favre will get Sunday Night Football with Al Micheals. And Madden will get his own show analyzing the greatness of Favre's analysis.

Gold :up:

[Matt]

Favre will get Sunday Night Football with Al Micheals. And Madden will get his own show analyzing the greatness of Favre's analysis.
We have a winner :up:

[ih8nyy]

LAKELAND, FL- Football hero-turned-restaurateur Freddie Mitchell is under investigation after what law enforcement sources say was a package of marijuana was delivered Thursday to his Lakeland business.

Mitchell says the cops are looking at the wrong guy.

"This is a case of mistaken identity," Mitchell told The Ledger Monday.

Mitchell, 30, was briefly handcuffed Thursday but not arrested.

His lawyer, John Liguori, said Lakeland police botched the investigation when they prematurely took Mitchell into custody at his restaurant, Brothers Bar-B-Q, before confirming he was the intended recipient of the FedEx package.

Lakeland police won't confirm that the package contained marijuana, and Mitchell said he was told by the officers who detained him only that it was "dope.''

However, three law enforcement officials familiar with the case told The Ledger the package contained about seven pounds of marijuana.

"This was a case of celebrity hunting," Liguori said. "They got all excited, and they jumped the gun."

Mitchell, a former Kathleen High football standout, played for UCLA and the Philadelphia Eagles.

Lakeland police aren't commenting on the details of the case.

"We have an active investigation - no one has been charged at this point," said LPD spokesman Jack Gillen.

As for "celebrity hunting," Gillen said, that's not how the department does things.

"We treat everyone alike, we don't show favoritism to anyone," he said. "When this investigation runs its course, the facts will be made thoroughly known to the public."

The three law enforcement sources said a package, thought to have been sent from Texas via FedEx, was "hit on" at some point by a drug-sniffing dog and Lakeland police were notified.

The package was delivered to Mitchell's grandmother, who does not live with Mitchell.

Mitchell said his grandmother is 90 years old and "takes memory pills."

The grandmother, according to both Mitchell and the law enforcement sources, told the delivery driver the package wasn't hers and she suggested it was probably intended for Mitchell.

Liguori said Mitchell's grandmother was given a FedEx phone number for Mitchell to claim the package, and he called the number. Mitchell said the package was delivered to him at Brothers, where he frequently gets packages of restaurant supplies.

Mitchell said he didn't know what was in the package - and still doesn't other than the reference to "dope'' made by police officers.

The critical moment in the whole scenario came when Mitchell, inside the restaurant during what he said was a lunch rush, was told he had a FedEx package to sign for in the parking lot. He went outside and signed.

As soon as he did, Mitchell said, "police were everywhere."

"I asked what was inside the package and they said 'dope.'" Mitchell said.

Someone phoned Liguori for Mitchell. He wasn't arrested. Police would not say whose name was on the package. Liguori said he didn't know whose name was on it, but said he couldn't imagine that it was Freddie Mitchell's name.

"If Freddie's name were on it," Liguori said, "he'd be sitting in jail."

"First Down Freddie Mitchell" had a variety of nicknames when he played football, including FredEX. He was a star wide receiver for Kathleen High. At UCLA, he caught passes and dated starlets.

In Philadelphia, despite some good years, he lost his job for what he described on MySpace.com as "running my mouth."

Mitchell said he was reluctant to say anything bad about the LPD because the police "are doing a great job in the community."

source lakeland florida ledger
(But I heard it on the radio)

[danielisthor]

My lord in heaven...I backed up the Tivo a ways...Favre is all ESPN has been talking about for past freakin hour. No top plays, no highlights. All Brett, all day. :dry:

And that's different from any other day how? If they're not jammed up Brett's butt, it's Kobe, Lebron or A-Roid's.

[gogetter0587]

I actually still like Favre

[The Incredible Hulk]

Maybe they can get Culpepper from Detroit on some kind of discount.

I'd give them Culpepper for some old footballs and a bag of used jocks. Please, take him.

My lord in heaven...I backed up the Tivo a ways...Favre is all ESPN has been talking about for past freakin hour. No top plays, no highlights. All Brett, all day. :dry:

Well atleast it's a break from A-rod coverage

I wish Favre would just join Dancing With The Stars and get it over with.

Only if Madden is his dance partner.

[Marx]

STOP THE PRESSES!

Brett Favre is retiring...again.

:whatever:

[The Game]

I actually still like Favre

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/disqo/56.gif

Why?

[Immortalfire]

STOP THE PRESSES!

Brett Favre is retiring...again.

:whatever: Who?

[That-Guy]

Who?

That guy from There's Something About Mary.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Fav-ray?

[Immortalfire]

Fav-ray?

I read in Reggie White's book that's how it's supposed to be pronounced.

[Marx]

Who?

Exactly. :cwink:

[Mister J]

The Cardinals fired their Quarterbacks Coach.

Even money has the ball boy to be next on the way out.

[Raiden]

The Cardinals fired their Quarterbacks Coach.

Even money has the ball boy to be next on the way out.

For a team that just went to the Super Bowl and was on the verge of winning one, they sure fired alot of coaches.

[NewYorkSpider]

I'm gonna feel bad for the Jets if they draft Sanchez.

[Raiden]

I'm gonna feel bad for the Jets if they draft Sanchez.

I don't think they will. I think Sanchez will be drafted before Jets start their selection, and even if he falls that low I think Jets would rather get a veteran off FA than a rookie.

[NewYorkSpider]

I have Sanchez going to Chicago in the first round. They pick right after the Jets.

[FaT_tONle]

Jets need to go playmaker... wideout preferably. Coles is done. Cotchery is average. You need a deep threat.

[Go Web Go!]

They'd need a QB to throw to said playmaker, wouldn't you say?

Fins' fans can't really complain because they are still doing better than Jets, who won their last title back in 1969 (or 50 years ago). :o

40, but close enough. Either way - something that will always make me warm & fuzzy inside

[vindrow]

My prediction: Favre will be out of retirement within 6 months and playing for San Fran.


If he does come out of retirement again, it will be only for Minnesota don't see him playing for any other team but them.

[Double Down]

Marc Bulger may be a target for the Jets.

[Go Web Go!]

Marc Bulger may be a target for the Jets.

I say Parcells should call the NYJ front office and ask them what they're willing to part with for Pennington. Just for ****s and giggles. :woot:

[danielisthor]

If he does come out of retirement again, it will be only for Minnesota don't see him playing for any other team but them.

The Jets will still own his rights and there was a provision with Green Bay that if the Jet traded Favre to Minnesota, the Jets would owe Green Bay their 1st round pick.



One of the best things about being a Dolfan is knowing that the Jets will at somepoint screw their entire franchise up. Be it really bad coaches, horrible draft picks, trading away some of their future for an aging QB with a bum throwing shoulder. I bet they didn't spend all that money last year on Faneca, Pace, etc. etc.

[NewYorkSpider]

Marc Bulger may be a target for the Jets.

That would be worse than drafting Sanchez.

[Double Down]

That would be worse than drafting Sanchez.

But it would be a lot cheaper in terms of draft picks.

[NewYorkSpider]

But it would be a lot cheaper in terms of draft picks.

Bulger has become injury prone. Plus his stats aren't as good as they used to be. He's not the same QB he was 3-4 years ago. He's lost his touch. The Jets trading for him is a HUGE risk, IMO. I think they'll stick with Clemens or give Brett Ratliff a shot.

[Double Down]

It would depend on the compensation the Rams would require. Or the Rams may just cut him.

[That-Guy]

LOL, did anyone turn on the NFL Network last night? If you didn't here's what you missed...

- Discussion about Brett Favre retiring

- Discussion with Terrell Suggs on what he thinks of Brett Favre retiring

- More discussion with Suggs regarding Rex Ryan taking over the Jets, and how Ryan wanted Favre to play QB

- What the NYJ staff thinks about Favre's retirement

- Phone Q&A with Brett Favre

- Brett Favre's Top 10 greatest moments

- Billy Bob Thronton narrating the Brett Favre story

- Is Brett Favre the greatest quarterback of all time?

[RAMORE]

Favre please come back one more year, your legacy isn't complete you can still play man go play for the viking hell we'll (da Bucs) tak you right now!

By the way I thought the penalty on the jets against trading to the Vikings was only for the first year right?

[Erzengel]

If Favre retires and the Jets let him go, he'd be free to go to the Vikings.

[Dark Donnie]

Favre please come back one more year, your legacy isn't complete you can still play man go play for the viking hell we'll (da Bucs) tak you right now!

By the way I thought the penalty on the jets against trading to the Vikings was only for the first year right?

Nope, the Draft Pick varies depending on the year he's released. The Jets won't let him go.

[Raiden]

LOL, did anyone turn on the NFL Network last night? If you didn't here's what you missed...

- Discussion about Brett Favre retiring

- Discussion with Terrell Suggs on what he thinks of Brett Favre retiring

- More discussion with Suggs regarding Rex Ryan taking over the Jets, and how Ryan wanted Favre to play QB

- What the NYJ staff thinks about Favre's retirement

- Phone Q&A with Brett Favre

- Brett Favre's Top 10 greatest moments

- Billy Bob Thronton narrating the Brett Favre story

- Is Brett Favre the greatest quarterback of all time?

This proves that ESPN isn't the only network infatuated with Brett Favre.

[Go Web Go!]

LOL, did anyone turn on the NFL Network last night? If you didn't here's what you missed...

- Discussion about Brett Favre retiring

- Discussion with Terrell Suggs on what he thinks of Brett Favre retiring

- More discussion with Suggs regarding Rex Ryan taking over the Jets, and how Ryan wanted Favre to play QB

- What the NYJ staff thinks about Favre's retirement

- Phone Q&A with Brett Favre

- Brett Favre's Top 10 greatest moments

- Billy Bob Thronton narrating the Brett Favre story

- Is Brett Favre the greatest quarterback of all time?

And tonight on Sports Center they'll be asking LeBron James for his thoughts on #4

[Immortalfire]

And tonight on Sports Center they'll be asking LeBron James for his thoughts on #4

If they get thoughts from him and Alexander Ovechkin, they should have everyone covered.

[Erzengel]

Interview Rhianna and Chris Brown about what they think of Favre retiring.

[danielisthor]

ESPN Classic will be interviewing Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Dan Fouts, OJ Simpson in his first prison interview, Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemiux, Pele, Roger Maris' widow and is looking into digging up and interviewing George Herman Ruth, Mickey Mantle and Bobby Bonds on the greatness of Favre.

[danielisthor]

If they get thoughts from him and Alexander Ovechkin, they should have everyone covered.


or Sidney Crosby.

I wonder what Lance Armstrong has to say........ or Jerry Jones, they usually have on minimum, 7 beat reporters in Dallas, just incase JJ, Romo or T.O sneezes.

[Immortalfire]

or Sidney Crosby.


Crosby's a wuss, Alex O is where it's at.

For real though, they need to get Lance Armstrong's thoughts too. Perhaps they can ask Obama how Brett's retirement will effect American civilization as we know it :eek:

[Go Web Go!]

or Sidney Crosby.

I wonder what Lance Armstrong has to say........ or Jerry Jones, they usually have on minimum, 7 beat reporters in Dallas, just incase JJ, Romo or T.O sneezes.

Get Ed Werder on the scene!

[Dr. Evil]

ESPN will lead off with these sportscenter stories:

- What does Kobe Bryant think of Brett Favre's retirement?
- How does Brett Favre compare to Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky and Tiger Woods?
- A possible Brett Favre movie, written and directed by Tony Kornheiser
- Is Brett Favre greater then god?
- ESPN changing all of it's programming to anything related to Brett Favre
- Brett Favre Fantasy Poker
- Announcement of a new reality show "Dancing with the Favres"

[wiegeabo]

ESPN will lead off with these sportscenter stories:

- What does Kobe Bryant think of Brett Favre's retirement?
- How does Brett Favre compare to Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky and Tiger Woods?
- A possible Brett Favre movie, written and directed by Tony Kornheiser
- Is Brett Favre greater then god?
- ESPN changing all of it's programming to anything related to Brett Favre
- Brett Favre Fantasy Poker
- Announcement of a new reality show "Dancing with the Favres"

Sadly, I could almost see a reality show dealing with Favre in retirement called "The Favres."

[Immortalfire]

- Announcement of a new reality show "Dancing with the Favres"

*wipes spit off monitor* Damn you

:lmao:


Sadly, I could almost see a reality show dealing with Favre in retirement called "The Favres."

Yup :csad:

[Double Down]

CARDS WON’T BUDGE ON BOLDIN?
Posted by Mike Florio on February 11, 2009, 8:47 a.m. EST
Though the Arizona Cardinals apparently are willing to give receiver Anquan Boldin a new contract that better reflects his value in light of the current market, we’re hearing scuttlebutt from folks familiar with the organization’s thinking that the team will not budge on Boldin’s renewed request to be traded.
The thinking is that, because the Cardinals hold his rights for two more seasons, they can keep him around for 2009 and then consider trading him in 2010, the final year of his contract.
Boldin has made it clear that he wants out. But, as a practical matter, he has no leverage.
As Terrell Owens learned nearly four years ago in Philly, being chronically disruptive might eventually work, but only after losing a significant chunk of bonus money and becoming a local villain. As Chad Johnson learned last year, failing to show up will require repayment of plenty of money that has already been received and/or spent.
In the current economy and with an uncapped year looming, NFL teams likely won’t be quick to give up their contractual rights, especially when those rights are extremely favorable to the team in question.
It’s a fairly simple situation. Boldin voluntarily signed a contract binding him to the Cardinals through 2010. He agreed to accept a salary of $2.75 million this year and $3 million next year. No language was included to adjust his pay to reflect the contracts subsequently given to players like Larry Fitzgerald.
We think there’s still a chance that the Cardinals will squat on Boldin for the next two seasons, slap him with the franchise tag in February 2011, and trade him thereafter.
Though Boldin might not like any of it, he can do nothing to force his way out of the situation.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/11/cards-wont-budge-on-boldin/

[Double Down]

From the New York Jets' official team store:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/doubledown44/JetsFAVRRetireBanner09.jpg

http://www.jetsshop.com/jets/home.php

They certainly seem to think he is done.

[danielisthor]

I didn't realize that being on an underachieving team for 1 year qualified as historic.

[Immortalfire]

I didn't realize that being on an underachieving team for 1 year qualified as historic.

It does if you're Brett Farve.

[Go Web Go!]

For serious.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Nice. I can put that right next to my Emmitt Smith Cardinals jersey and Joe Montana Chiefs jersey.

[Addendum]

And Namath's Rams jersey and Rice's Raiders jersey and Unitas' Chargers jersey...

[Dr. Evil]

From the New York Jets' official team store:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/doubledown44/JetsFAVRRetireBanner09.jpg

http://www.jetsshop.com/jets/home.php

They certainly seem to think he is done.

Meh. I think that John Madden and Tony Kornheiser will buy all of that.

[Marx]

From the New York Jets' official team store:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/doubledown44/JetsFAVRRetireBanner09.jpg

http://www.jetsshop.com/jets/home.php

They certainly seem to think he is done.

:facepalm

[The Incredible Hulk]

And Namath's Rams jersey and Rice's Raiders jersey and Unitas' Chargers jersey...

I wouldve went with Rice's Seahawks or Broncos jersey. ;) He was still somewhat productive with Oakland and got to a Super Bowl...

[NewYorkSpider]

It would depend on the compensation the Rams would require. Or the Rams may just cut him.

The Rams would take a cap hit of $10M if they cut him. And nobody bother posting the McNabb to the Jets rumor. It's not going to happen.

[Double Down]

I read the same thing you did on Rotoworld. They are not always right.

[NewYorkSpider]

I highly doubt the Eagles would get rid of McNabb. Especially with them getting to the NFC Championship game. As far as the Jets go in terms of QB, they could sign a vetran like Jeff Garcia to be Clemens/Ratliff's backup. I doubt he would want to serve as a backup, but if things don't go well with the other two, he's in a position to run the team. Another option is too take one in the draft. I think they need to look at Josh Freeman or Rhett Bomar.

[The Game]

From the New York Jets' official team store:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/doubledown44/JetsFAVRRetireBanner09.jpg

http://www.jetsshop.com/jets/home.php

They certainly seem to think he is done.

Now who the hell is going to buy this?, thye are better off giving it to those kids in third world countries that think that the Bills are 4x Champs and the Patriots went 19-0

[danielisthor]

Now who the hell is going to buy this?, thye are better off giving it to those kids in third world countries that think that the Bills are 4x Champs and the Patriots went 19-0

20 years from now, some idiot Jets fan will wearing his Favre #4 jersey in the stands just like they still wear Namath's.

[Alex The Great]

Well, see ya Favre, been fun watching you play. Please stay retired this time :heart:

[Holiday]

I think Favre really will stay retired, he's already filed his retirement papers I hear. I don't see him coming back.

[Double Down]

Kurt Warner on Ellen DeGeneres' show yesterday:
SuW0uoZUkTM

Kurt can dance. :wow:

[Go Web Go!]

And he'll be on Leno tonight.

[Raiden]

I think Favre really will stay retired, he's already filed his retirement papers I hear. I don't see him coming back.

Yeah, I think Favre (despite Jets giving him a chance to be a starting QB) really wanted to play in Green Bay or Minnesota, and ultimately he doesn't feel like coming back to New York and play another year. So he decided to retire for real this time.

[Immortalfire]

I'll believe it when the season starts, and he ain't in a uniform.

[Dr. Evil]

And he'll be on Leno tonight.

With Larry Fitzgerald.

Did Warner ever appear on Leno when he was Super Bowl MVP a decade ago?

[Immortalfire]

Falcons to trade the contract rights to Michael Vick.. http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2009/02/13/atlanta_falcons_michael_vick.html?cxntlid=homepage _tab_newstab

The Falcons are seeking to trade the rights to imprisoned and suspended quarterback Michael Vick.

Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff said the team is preparing to trade Vick’s contractual rights in an interview that appeared on the team’s website on Friday.

“With regards to Michael Vick, we’ve decided to seek a trade of his contractual rights to another NFL club,” Dimitroff told the website. “We took a number of steps in the 2008 season, including using our first pick to draft a quarterback. We feel a trade is the best move for the Falcons, and it’s also in the best interest of Michael. This has been a really unique situation from a variety of standpoints and because we will actively be involved in a trade situation, I don’t envision our organization speaking any more about this subject publicly until it’s reached a resolution.”

Vick is currently in federal prison on felony charges related to dogfighting and is scheduled to be released in July.

Vick has a lucrative contract that runs to 2013 and calls for him to receive a base salary of $9 million and a bonus of $6.43 million in 2009. The remainder of the contract is worth $45.11 million, with another possible $3 million in Pro Bowl bonuses.

Vick is currently under indefinite suspension from the league. Dimitroff said he had not heard from the NFL about a timeline for Vick’s reinstatement once he is released from prison.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Since it is Friday and tomorrow is the day of love I think I'll leave you guys with the best team in the NFL today.



http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9932/raiders35hg3.gif

[Ultimate_Superman]

Falcons to trade the contract rights to Michael Vick.. http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2009/02/13/atlanta_falcons_michael_vick.html?cxntlid=homepage _tab_newstabCome on Oakland pick up those rights. We can use him over here.

[Immortalfire]

Since it is Friday and tomorrow is the day of love I think I'll leave you guys with the best team in the NFL today.

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9932/raiders35hg3.gif

Well...where are they?

[Holiday]

I'll believe it when the season starts, and he ain't in a uniform.

I still think he's gone. He talked about how if he had shoulder surgery that might give him a chance to play again, the way he wants, but he wasn't having the surgery.

But hey, if he comes back anytime during the season, I'll change my avy to Brett and user-title to "John Madden's Lover". I promise. :oldrazz:

[Ultimate_Superman]

Well...where are they?You will be eating those words this season if we get Vick like how we are predicted to.:cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad:

[Immortalfire]

Having seen and put up with Vick for six years, I doubt it.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Having seen and put up with Vick for six years, I doubt it.
Vick or no Vick we are going all the way next year.

[RAMORE]

I'll believe it when the season starts, and he ain't in a uniform.

No you got it wrong Favre is gonna start rolling like Roger Clemens he doesn't do preseason and he shows up after a few months in so he can see if your any good and worth his time to come out of retirement and play for, and of course you'll have to pay him a ton of money and it will be for that season only:D

[Double Down]

^ Not worth it.

[Double Down]

Kurt Warner on Ellen DeGeneres' show yesterday:
SuW0uoZUkTM

Kurt can dance. :wow:

And he'll be on Leno tonight.

Anne Hathaway will be on that show tonight, too. :up:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/doubledown44/Anne-Hathaway.jpg

[Raiden]

Anne Hathaway will be on that show tonight, too. :up:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/doubledown44/Anne-Hathaway.jpg

Gorgeous! :heart:

[danielisthor]

Falcons to trade the contract rights to Michael Vick.. http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2009/02/13/atlanta_falcons_michael_vick.html?cxntlid=homepage _tab_newstab

That's a huge chunk of salary cap space. Anybody who takes his contract will want it completely reworked and will want reassurances from Goddell that he wont be facing any more NFL suspension time.

[danielisthor]

Gorgeous! :heart:

Gorgeous, yes. but way to pale white for my tastes.

[Go Web Go!]

Gorgeous! :heart:

She has her days

[The Incredible Hulk]

You will be eating those words this season if we get Vick like how we are predicted to.:cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad:

I dont think they could afford Vick under the cap. At least not with Humungous Russell on the squad at QB,

[vindrow]

Since it is Friday and tomorrow is the day of love I think I'll leave you guys with the best team in the NFL today.



http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9932/raiders35hg3.gif




Dude, why do you want to torture us with a pic of Al Davis.

[vindrow]

You will be eating those words this season if we get Vick like how we are predicted to.:cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad:


So what, you guys might actually win 6 games next year:hehe:

[Dr. Evil]

Falcons to trade the contract rights to Michael Vick.. http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2009/02/13/atlanta_falcons_michael_vick.html?cxntlid=homepage _tab_newstab

Yes. To Dallas.

:whatever:

[Ultimate_Superman]

I am going on record to say the Raiders will make the playoffs this season. Just you watch the Dark Side of the NFL will rise again.

[Dr. Evil]

Vick won't be backing up JaMarcus Russell. He's going to backup Tony Romo.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Vick won't be backing up JaMarcus Russell. He's going to backup Tony Romo.When was this announced?

[Double Down]

He is speculating.

[Dr. Evil]

Jerry Jones will want to make amends for the Pacman disaster, so he will probably be interested in Vick.

He can't be worse then Brad Johnson or Brooks Bollinger.

[That-Guy]

For fellow Steelers fans... nice little article just posted on NFL.com:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80eb5fcc&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true&icampaign=DW_Steelers_King

Rooney's 'Steeler Way' brings six Super Bowl titles to Pittsburgh
By Peter King | Special to NFL.com


Editor's note: The following story originally appeared in Sports Illustrated's commemorative book honoring the Super Bowl XLIII champion Pittsburgh Steelers.

I've covered the NFL for a quarter century now. One tends to get jaded after a while, doing the same thing, seeing the same people (or at least the same kinds of athletic, fabulously wealthy people) playing the same game. Then I got a chance to be around the Pittsburgh Steelers for five days as the Pro Football Writers of America pool reporter during the run-up to the team's sixth Super Bowl victory.

The players make fun of the owner. The players make fun of the coach. The coach makes fun of everyone. There is no grass-is-greener-elsewhere syndrome; they all know this is where the grass is greenest: At the confluence of the Three Rivers.

These people are focused on enjoying their lives. They are not looking for the next gig. In those five days I never once heard players talking about making more money somewhere else. No coaches were sidling up to writers hoping to get their names thrown into some higher-paying college or NFL ring.

These people are grateful for what they have. They are happy.

I'll tell you a story. At practice on the Thursday before the game it began pouring, and most of us on hand had no rain gear. There was a sliver of protection -- a narrow area underneath a broad light pole -- and I found myself getting as thin as I could when the rain was at its heaviest. It was the same idea that wide receivers Santonio Holmes and Nate Washington and running backs Willie Parker and Mewelde Moore had. We were snuggled up tight to the pole, and Holmes and Parker started talking about the jumping ability of tigers. Holmes thought a tiger could jump the eight-foot fence ringing the adjacent field where the Steelers were practicing. Parker thought a tiger couldn't jump that high. They argued and laughed about how silly an argument it was, and the other players joined in with their opinions. "A tiger is all-powerful!" Holmes yelled. "Got springs in its legs! Of course it can jump that little fence!"

Meanwhile, out on the field, Hines Ward was walking to the sideline and saw the 76-year-old owner and patriarch of the team, Dan Rooney, his head protected from the rain by only a white towel that draped back over his neck. Keep in mind that Dan Rooney is one of the few remaining owners from the old guard of the NFL. A man such as this is to be respected.

"Hey, Mr. Rooney," Ward called out, looking mischievous. "You with the Taliban?"

Rooney smiled. I half expected him to give Ward a hotfoot when he wasn't looking, or an exploding cigar. Later in the week Rooney talked about the Steeler Way. Sometimes it's the Comedy Central Way. Everyone's an equal-opportunity target, all in the name of good fun and chemistry. "It's so marvelous," Rooney said. "It's the way we do things here."

At 6:30 on the morning after the Steelers' 27-23 Super Bowl victory over Arizona, Jerome Bettis walked into the lobby of his hotel in Tampa. He was just back from a night of celebrating with the guys. Who would know better about the Steeler Way than the Bus? So I asked him what he thought.

"It all goes back to Mr. Rooney," he said. "He sets the table so that everyone wants to come to work and do their best. He's the boss, but it's not like he's a boss. You want to play for him. I saw [Cardinals defensive tackle] Darnell Dockett tonight, and he was like, 'What is it about the Steelers? What do you have that's different from everywhere else?' And it's Mr. Rooney and the atmosphere he creates."

That atmosphere, dating back 40 years -- to when Rooney hired Chuck Noll and everyone in the organization finally got on the same page, where they remain today -- is at the center of Pittsburgh's winning six Super Bowls in the last 35 seasons. (No other team has won more than five.) Imagine players dying to stay in a slumping Rust Belt city with a smaller population than Aurora, Colo. Good players, like Hines Ward. "I never want to play anywhere else," said Ward, knocking on the door of Hall of Fame contention. "I will play in Pittsburgh my whole career, God willing."

You know what wins in football? Team first. Against the Cardinals, Ward showed how. Ward went to Holmes the day of the game and told him, in essence: It might not be my day because of how my knee's feeling today, and players become stars by excelling on days like Super Sunday. Ward knew the guy he'd taken under his wing was ready to fly. Holmes, when the game got very big in the final three minutes, went to Ben Roethlisberger and told him, in essence: I'm your guy, and I want to make the big plays today, and you can trust me. And Roethlisberger, being chased all over the place, believed Holmes and got him the ball four times on the biggest drive of their lives. Ward gave it up to Holmes. Holmes let Roethlisberger know he was ready for the hot lights. Holmes proved it, catching the most acrobatic winning touchdown in crunch time in Super Bowl history. Afterward I caught Ward unashamedly, unabashedly crying.

"I can't help it," he told me, walking through the tunnel from the field after the game. Tears streaked his eye black, and his mouth was curled in a tortured frown. "I am just so happy right now." "You look like you're just leaving a funeral," I said.

"No," he said. "All the work I put in -- we put in -- paid off. I am so proud of Santonio. So proud. It's a great thing about this team. It's such a team."

After games, win or lose, Rooney walks from locker to locker, thanking players for their contributions. One former Steeler, Sean Morey, a special-teamer, now plays for Arizona and told me the week before the game: "I remember playing for that. That gesture by Mr. Rooney meant more than anything." After the win over Arizona in the Super Bowl, Rooney got to defensive end Aaron Smith's locker. Rooney stuck out his hand. Smith didn't shake it. He hugged Rooney instead. "I'm happy you got your sixth, sir," Smith said. "I'm just happy I could be a part of giving you something you deserve so much. We're lucky to have you for an owner."

Steeler Nation is lucky too.

[StorminNorman]

Kurt Warner on Ellen DeGeneres' show yesterday:
SuW0uoZUkTM

Kurt can dance. :wow:

I really really hope Kurt doesn't retire. I have never enjoyed NFL Football as much as I have watching Kurt play at his best level.

[The Game]

Jerry Jones will want to make amends for the Pacman disaster, so he will probably be interested in Vick.

He can't be worse then Brad Johnson or Brooks Bollinger.

Funny thing is even though he is in sing-sing he probably is still better than those two

[Double Down]

From Adam Schefter:
Jacobs’ franchise tag a rarity for Giants
When the New York Giants slapped their franchise tag on running back Brandon Jacobs Friday, it was a rarity for the team.
Only two times in franchise history has the team used its franchise tag. The first was offensive tackle Jumbo Elliott in 1993, and the second was Jacobs on Friday. The franchise tag means Jacobs will earn $6.621 million next season.
It speaks to Jacobs’ ability and the Giants’ meticulousness that this is only the second time the team has used its franchise tag.
Now the Giants’ free-agent focus shifts to their other free-agent running back, Derrick Ward, who will be free to sign with another team on Feb. 27.

[SurfDUI]

From Adam Schefter: The franchise tag means Jacobs will earn $6.621 million next season.
It speaks to Jacobs’ ability and the Giants’ meticulousness that this is only the second time the team has used its franchise tag.
Now the Giants’ free-agent focus shifts to their other free-agent running back, Derrick Ward, who will be free to sign with another team on Feb. 27.

Not bad for a RB that would only in optimal conditions share a third of the load.
And I heard Plex don't want to sign back w/ the Giants:huh:
Who else would want his stupid ass

[The Incredible Hulk]

why would they franchise a restricted free agent? :confused: They'd have the option to match any offer he got and now they need to offer him Top 5 RB money which he doesnt really deserve.

[Dr. Evil]

Warner and Fitzgerald on now.

Warner's second appearance.

[Dark Donnie]

why would they franchise a restricted free agent? :confused: They'd have the option to match any offer he got and now they need to offer him Top 5 RB money which he doesnt really deserve.

If your a Restricted FA, I believe The Giants would only have the right to match. A team probably could offer him a pretty high contract that The Giants might not match. With Franchising, The Giants would now have the chance to match, and if not receive Two 1st round picks if he signs elsewhere.

[Double Down]

Warner and Fitzgerald on now.

Warner's second appearance.

Warner tricked me. I thought he was announcing his retirement. Whew.

Anne Hathaway promised to bake brownies for Warner if he makes the Super Bowl next year. (And she looked really cute.)

[signalman]

Thanks for the memories, Brett.
See you in five years at your Introduction into the HALL OF FAME.

[Dr. Evil]

http://www.examiner.com/x-778-Houston-Texans-Examiner~y2009m2d13-Sage-to-the-Jets

[SurfDUI]

To Bret Favre Surfer WILL MISS YOU MAN, I wish #18 played more like #4 a lot of times.

Some of us fans enjoy seein a player enjoy his job, and NO! 5 games don't destroy a legacy.
They said you were done man 3 years ago and you nearly got back to the big game...no QB's play like you anymore. Your my Bradshaw...except w/ out the 3 other Superbowl titles.

Happy retierment Bret Fraarrve http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[Darthphere]

Kurt Warner on Ellen DeGeneres' show yesterday:
SuW0uoZUkTM

Kurt can dance. :wow:

I see a new TD celebration.

[Dr. Evil]

Ummmm..........yeah:

http://www.lingeriebowl.com/

[Immortalfire]

Ummmm..........yeah:

http://www.lingeriebowl.com/

:up:

[StorminNorman]

To Bret Favre Surfer WILL MISS YOU MAN, I wish #18 played more like #4 a lot of times.

Some of us fans enjoy seein a player enjoy his job, and NO! 5 games don't destroy a legacy.
They said you were done man 3 years ago and you nearly got back to the big game...no QB's play like you anymore. Your my Bradshaw...except w/ out the 3 other Superbowl titles.

Happy retierment Bret Fraarrve http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

I bet there are a lot of Packers/Jet's fans that wish #4 played a lot more like #18 a lot of times. :o

[Excel]

Jaguars cut RB Fred Taylor, and Buccaneers tell Jeff Garcia they do not wan him back.

[Dr. Evil]

So Tampa is going with Luke "Tears of" McCown?

[Go Web Go!]

I bet there are a lot of Packers/Jet's fans that wish #4 played a lot more like #18 a lot of times. :o

For serious. I didn't quite get that one seeing how Manning will most likely trounce Favre by the time his playing career is over with.

[StorminNorman]

I really want Manning to break Favre's starting streak.

[Double Down]

I see a new TD celebration.

Could you even imagine him doing it? That would blow people's minds.

[The Game]

Chris McAlister has been cut

[Holiday]

I really want Manning to break Favre's starting streak.

Same here. And Favre's touchdown record as well.

[danielisthor]

Favre - 464td's
Manning - 333td's

Manning averages 30td's a year, so another 4+years and that record will be taken away.

Damn, i hate Jimmy Johnson. He probably robbed Marino of 30 to 50 td's his last 5 years.

[NewYorkSpider]

I'm gonna take a guess and say Jeff Garcia will be in a Jets uniform.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Not sure. Will the Jets be running the WCO?

[Go Web Go!]

Maybe a return to San Fran is in order for Garcia?

[RAMORE]

Good riddance to Garcia that guy is a paper doll who couldn't stay healthy. I heard a rumor the bucs are looking at Michael Vick:eek: As a fan i'd be in favor of that. We need a mobile QB

[Go Web Go!]

Good riddance to Garcia that guy is a paper doll who couldn't stay healthy. I heard a rumor the bucs are looking at Michael Vick:eek: As a fan i'd be in favor of that. We need a mobile QB

Really? You want a guy that hasn't played a down in 2 years as your QB just because he's mobile? Hmm. Let's not forget to mention the fact the guy may be suspended upon his reinstatement (if he's even reinstated)

[Go Web Go!]

Saints have released Deuce McAllister. Not a good week for RB's so far.

[Raiden]

Really? You want a guy that hasn't played a down in 2 years as your QB just because he's mobile? Hmm. Let's not forget to mention the fact the guy may be suspended upon his reinstatement (if he's even reinstated)

Not to mention that even back then when Vick was playing, he was mediocre QB who just happened to be mobile. I have a feeling that Al Davis will try to snatch him up though.

[Immortalfire]

Vick was mobile, and little else.

[Go Web Go!]

I wouldn't question a team for picking him up as a project player, maybe at WR or solely to run the Wildcat formation, but as your starter as buddy boy up there suggested? You can't.

[StorminNorman]

Really? You want a guy that hasn't played a down in 2 years as your QB just because he's mobile? Hmm. Let's not forget to mention the fact the guy may be suspended upon his reinstatement (if he's even reinstated)

Goodell has no business suspending Mike Vick when he returns to the league - he has been out of the league two years and he has served his punishment in jail.

Vick was mobile, and little else.

Not entirely true, the guy did win games. Atlanta's franchise was successful under Vick. If I am an NFL owner, I grab Vick.

[wiegeabo]

Agreed. Vick was a threat with Atlanta. Even if he wasn't the most accurate or best quarterback, he had an arm on him. Plus, his speed made him hard to sack. And if they covered his receivers, he had the legs to effectively run the ball , keeping the defense honest and off-balance.

Now, if two years in prison didn't totally screw up his game, and he's allowed to play, he could be a good pickup for a rebuilding team to build around.

[Go Web Go!]

Now, if two years in prison didn't totally screw up his game, and he's allowed to play, he could be a good pickup for a rebuilding team to build around.

How often is it that a guy is right on point after 2 years away from any sport? I can't imagine any of the 31 other teams wanting to "build" around Vick. The thought alone is a little crazy.

[StorminNorman]

I wouldn't build around Vick, but I would take him.

[Excel]

I dunno, everybody loves a comeback.

[Go Web Go!]

I dunno, everybody loves a comeback.

Even a Brett Favre comeback?

[That-Guy]

Damn... it's a bad week for football players name McAllister... (or McAlister)

[The Incredible Hulk]

who's going to be the first hack sportswriter to go with the lead of "Saints Drop Deuce"? :)

[Go Web Go!]

Ha!

[That-Guy]

Lol.

[StorminNorman]

In Detroit related news Culpepper restructured his contract so his signing bonus date was pushed back. This likely means Culpepper will stay with the team through 2009, though at the price of 2.5 Million he doesn't own the starting position from a money stand point.

Jason Hanson also signed a four year deal.

[ih8nyy]

who's going to be the first hack sportswriter to go with the lead of "Saints Drop Deuce"? :)

Hahahahahahaha! :up: :up: :up:

That is the perfect Headline. You know the NY Post or NY Daily News would have run with that if he was playing for Jersey A or Jersey B.

[The Incredible Hulk]

In Detroit related news Culpepper restructured his contract so his signing bonus date was pushed back. This likely means Culpepper will stay with the team through 2009, though at the price of 2.5 Million he doesn't own the starting position from a money stand point.

Sadly I think this makes it MORE likely that they'll go with Stafford #1 overall. :(


Jason Hanson also signed a four year deal.

I love Hanson and I'm glad he'll be with us until the end. Although part of me feels for him that he had to spend his whole career as a Lion. He's a class act all around and deserves better.

[StorminNorman]

Sadly I think this makes it MORE likely that they'll go with Stafford #1 overall. :(

The Lions drafting the next Peyton Manning should never make you sad ;)

I love Hanson and I'm glad he'll be with us until the end. Although part of me feels for him that he had to spend his whole career as a Lion. He's a class act all around and deserves better.

Its funny that Jason Hanson is the most important Lions football player since Barry Sanders.

[danielisthor]

Its funny that Jason Hanson is the most important Lions football player since Barry Sanders.


Generally, that would be quite sad.



In other news - Cardinals franchise LB Dansby. Horrible news for us Dolphin fans who were wanting a shot at him in free agency.

[Go Web Go!]

-Bucs have franchised WR Antonio Bryant & San Diego has place the non-exclusive franchise tag on RB Darren Sproles.

[Marx]

Even a Brett Favre comeback?

No! No more. :cmad:

[Dr. Evil]

Looks like Whisenhunt will be calling the plays on offense:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/18/cards-announce-coaching-changes/

[Go Web Go!]

Terrell Suggs has also been franchised. Dammit.

[Caped Crusader]

NFL.com's Adam Schefter reports that the Colts will release Marvin Harrison "in the coming days."
Harrison's been a Colt for 13 seasons, but his inability to separate from DBs consistently makes him unworthy of his $13.4 million cap number. The move will save $7 million under the cap, allowing Indianapolis to franchise tag free agent Kelvin Hayden. The deadline to franchise players is Thursday.

[Bond]

Wade Phillips will be both the Head Coach and Defensive Coordinator for Dallas this year. I kind of like that.

[Excel]

Tom Brady says he feels great and will ready for camp.

[NewYorkSpider]

Haynesworth to test free agent market.

Haynesworth (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3916393)

I see him in Atlanta next season.

[danielisthor]

Terrell Suggs has also been franchised. Dammit.

I think we're more interested in Scott than Suggs.

[Go Web Go!]

Sure, but Suggs had also been mentioned as a possibility, so this crosses him off that list. The position isn't a priority. I'd much rather make a splash with a WR that can make plays or a Center that's not going to be tossed around.

[FaT_tONle]

Wade Phillips will be both the Head Coach and Defensive Coordinator for Dallas this year. I kind of like that.

Good... now both coaches will be under all the pressure... I think Wade should be fired if he doesn't get to a Championship game. If the defense collapses again he should also be fired... and Garrett should not get the HC job if the offense fails to get it done in December/January.

[SurfDUI]

NFL.com's Adam Schefter reports that the Colts will release Marvin Harrison "in the coming days."



Fraid of this commin, :csad:

[Darthphere]

NFL.com's Adam Schefter reports that the Colts will release Marvin Harrison "in the coming days."
Harrison's been a Colt for 13 seasons, but his inability to separate from DBs consistently makes him unworthy of his $13.4 million cap number. The move will save $7 million under the cap, allowing Indianapolis to franchise tag free agent Kelvin Hayden. The deadline to franchise players is Thursday.

Marvin Harrison, Miami Dolphin.

Good... now both coaches will be under all the pressure... I think Wade should be fired if he doesn't get to a Championship game. If the defense collapses again he should also be fired... and Garrett should not get the HC job if the offense fails to get it done in December/January.

The problem is IMO, the personel. I just don't think they are that good, especially in the secondary.

[Go Web Go!]

Fraid of this commin, :csad:

Why? Would you rather have him stay on the roster for $13mil & not produce than be released for sentimental reasons?

[Dark Donnie]

:up:

Donovan McNabb-QB- Eagles Feb. 18 - 10:39 am et

The Eagles are reportedly concentrating on extending Donovan McNabb's contract and seem confident that a deal can be worked out.
McNabb wants added security to ensure that there will be no quarterback controversy in the near future, and the Eagles don't have much of a choice but to cater to him. They're obviously not ready to turn the team over to Kevin Kolb.
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News

[danielisthor]

Sure, but Suggs had also been mentioned as a possibility, so this crosses him off that list. The position isn't a priority. I'd much rather make a splash with a WR that can make plays or a Center that's not going to be tossed around.

Personally, Center, ILB, NT and Cb is what i'm looking for. We need a #1 WR, but with the way Henning wants to run the offense (power running game w/two tight end sets) Ginn, Camarillo, and Bess are sufficient enough until Henne takes over at QB from Pennington.

[Go Web Go!]

We need a #1 WR, but with the way Henning wants to run the offense (power running game w/two tight end sets) Ginn, Camarillo, and Bess are sufficient enough until Henne takes over at QB from Pennington.

No way. You're not going to be a top tier team in the NFL with Greg freakin' Camarillo or Devon Bess as your #1 WR. As nice a season as they both had, they're nothing more than complimentary 2 & 3. Miami struggled in games because they had no one that was open, no one to get the ball to. Fasano & Martin at TE are good, but again, you need more than a couple of good TE's & decent WR's to win games. You can't wait until Henne takes over to upgrade. That's something that needs to be done, like, now.

[Mister J]

I'm surprised there isn't plenty of talk about the Bengals' shrewd move to franchise their kicker. :hehe:

Report: Four Teams on Peppers' List
(http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3916583)
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Julius Peppers still wants out of Carolina, but he'll only agree to be traded to four teams, further complicating the Panthers' efforts to get compensation for the four-time Pro Bowl defensive end.

On the eve of the deadline to place the franchise tag on Peppers, a person close to the player said Wednesday that the impending free agent wants to play for the Dallas Cowboys or three other unnamed teams, two of them in the NFC.

[Mister J]

- Raiders sign CB Nmandi Asomugha to 3Y/45M deal
- Panthers sign OL Jordan Gross to 6Y/60M deal
- Panthers place franchise tag on Julius Peppers

[Excel]

- Raiders sign CB Nmandi Asomugha to 3Y/45M deal
- Panthers sign OL Jordan Gross to 6Y/60M deal
- Panthers place franchise tag on Julius Peppers

NICE! Thats what Asante got for 7 years

[Ultimate_Superman]

- Raiders sign CB Nmandi Asomugha to 3Y/45M deal
- Panthers sign OL Jordan Gross to 6Y/60M deal
- Panthers place franchise tag on Julius PeppersWere making moves; this year we will reach the playoffs again.

[Go Web Go!]

Hee Hee. I like you. You're silly.

[The Game]

- Raiders sign CB Nmandi Asomugha to 3Y/45M deal


Wow, thats a lot of money for a CB, he is damn good, but eh what does their cap room look like?

Colts are smart to lock up Hayden, but damn they overpaid for a C2 corner.................Surf get in here and explain this

[RAMORE]

Goodell has no business suspending Mike Vick when he returns to the league - he has been out of the league two years and he has served his punishment in jail.



Not entirely true, the guy did win games. Atlanta's franchise was successful under Vick. If I am an NFL owner, I grab Vick.

Exactly he should be reinstated he's done his time. And if he hasn't completely lost his skills I would name him the starter for the Bucs He never had a good defense in Atlanta and I think the one year they did was when they were in the playoffs right?

[RAMORE]

Haynesworth to test free agent market.

Haynesworth (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3916393)

I see him in Atlanta next season.

Actually i've heard some rumbling he might be headed to Tampa.

[RAMORE]

-Bucs have franchised WR Antonio Bryant & San Diego has place the non-exclusive franchise tag on RB Darren Sproles.

Best move the bucs could have made. This way we can make sure that last year wasn't a fluke.

Don't cry for Harrison he got away with shooting at someone and teams will be lined up to pick him up.

[Dark Donnie]

NICE! Thats what Asante got for 7 years

Asante signed for 6 Years

[KALEL114]

-Bucs have franchised WR Antonio Bryant & San Diego has place the non-exclusive franchise tag on RB Darren Sproles.
He's not very happy about it.

The Tampa Tribune (http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/comments/bryant-not-happy-with-franchise-tag/) reports that wide receiver Antonio Bryant is not pleased with the Buccaneers' decision to place the franchise tag on him. In fact, Bryant's agent, Lamont Smith, announced Thursday that Bryant does not intend to sign the offer, instead opting to either test free agency or hold out for a long-term contract.

[Mister J]

I don't think anyone really likes being franchised.

[danielisthor]

I don't think anyone really likes being franchised.

No long term commitment, no signing bonus, yeah I can see how they don't like it.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Bryant should be ecstatic to be franchised. There's now way in hell he deserves Top 5 WR money and that's what he'll get next year.

[SurfDUI]

Colts are smart to lock up Hayden, but damn they overpaid for a C2 corner.................Surf get in here and explain this

I must yield to the greatness that is Bill Pollian...I have to, for the interception in the Superbowl and subequent and reletive good health, Hayden on one side and Marlin on the other...dude! Man my Indianapolis COLTS are into tandems...2 TE, 2 of the baddest Wideouts eva!!, Freeney+Mathis-did you see them cats in the Pro-Bowl?:o 2 is the majic number...I guess

Yea, I'm that dude that watches the pro-bowl:csad:


- Panthers place franchise tag on Julius Peppers

He don't speak real well, I was kinda disapointed, he is a monster tho, and everybody KNEW he was gettin tha tag...after that turd they layed in teh playoffs. Yes San Diego's punter and Darren Sproles beat my COLTS.:csad:

Why? Would you rather have him stay on the roster for $13mil & not produce than be released for sentimental reasons?

No, I'd rather keep Jeff Saturday-You need a good center. I know Marv's gone, but you gotta feel that he's damn near Reggie Miller round here-and nobody's Reggie Miller. I sincerallly thought he'd be the new Jerry Rice, he just broke down a little harder, I think he still has a couple of seasons in him, just who wan'ts to start over.

FREAKIN # 88:o

[NewYorkSpider]

Peppers won't end up in Dallas. Carolina wants a 1st round draft pick this season and they don't have it. I think Green Bay could be the best choice if that's one of his teams that he picked.

[danielisthor]

The bigger question is, who are the 3 other teams on his list and which of them are willing to part with high draft picks and give Peppers a big contract.

[Mister J]

A few weeks ago, Peppers' agent said that Miami would 'likely be on the list of potential destinations'. However, with this franchise business, I think everything is up in the air now.

[NewYorkSpider]

The bigger question is, who are the 3 other teams on his list and which of them are willing to part with high draft picks and give Peppers a big contract.

I think Atlanta and Tampa are the other two teams in the NFC. The AFC team that I'm thinking could be Denver. Here's what I said back in January.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=16300310&postcount=184

[danielisthor]

Dolphin GM Jeff Ireland has come out and said that the team probably wouldn't be trading Draft Picks for Players and are in the market to acquire more picks. We have 2 many holes still to plug before making a big splash in free agency or a trade. I think they'll be going after the Raven's center and maybe Bart Scott and then pick up some lower level free agents and then the other holes in the draft.

[StorminNorman]

I don't think anyone really likes being franchised.

I think some players overreact. Dunta Robinson, for example, will be making more with a franchise tag than he would off a typical contract.

[Immortalfire]

Haynesworth to test free agent market.

Haynesworth (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3916393)

I see him in Atlanta next season.

Dimitroff has said they're not giving him a call.

[danielisthor]

Dolphins have resigned RT Vernon Carey. Nothing yet on length or money involved.

[Go Web Go!]

Good. Signing him to a new deal was a priority.

EDIT: 6 years, $42 million

[Immortalfire]

Travis Henry in the news again.. http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/dekalb/stories/2009/02/19/NFL_henry_child_support.html

Sorry, but I have no pity for him.

[FaT_tONle]

Feel sorry for these players... not for Henry and his stupid decisions personally... but these mid level players in general. Pretty much out of the league when they are 30... have MAYBE a few million saved tops that has to last them for the rest of their lives. Must suck... I mean not everyone gets the whole seven years 50 million with 20 million guaranteed. Hope the NFL takes care of their players after retirement. From what I hear they have done a poor job with their handicapped veterans.

[Go Web Go!]

Only few million? Poor bastards :(

You know, they are able to get jobs if their careers run dry.

As for retirees, as long they are no longer to play due to injuries they've sustained on the field, yes, they should be helped out.

[SurfDUI]

Travis Henry in the news again.. http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/dekalb/stories/2009/02/19/NFL_henry_child_support.html


At least nobody died-I guess it'd be hard to take out hits on 8 or 9 baby mommas:csad:

[Dr. Evil]

Don't know if this is a good idea:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3922780

[Immortalfire]

Falcons have franchise tag'd punter Michael Koenen.

[BlackLantern]

Don't know if this is a good idea:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3922780

I don't think so....expect PETA. the ASPCA, and various other groups to mount protests....Vick going to SF puts that right in their backyard

[Dr. Evil]

I don't think so....expect PETA. the ASPCA, and various other groups to mount protests....Vick going to SF puts that right in their backyard

You get the same protests wherever he ends up.

[BlackLantern]

which is why The Hammer shouldn't even bother reinstating him....his presence will be detrimental to any team and cause an unneeded distraction...

[Dr. Evil]

Jets could go into season with Kellen Clemens or Brett Ratliff as starter:

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2009/02/new_york_jets_coach_rex_ryan_s.html

[Go Web Go!]

Rejoice, everyone! Emmitt Smith will no longer be butchering the English language on ESPN!

[Dark Donnie]

Eagles Defense-TM- Eagles Feb. 21 - 10:45 am et

Eagles DC Jim Johnson is back at work after successful radiation treatment to shrink the tumor on his spine.
Johnson is undergoing chemotherapy, but he's expected to continue running the defense at OTAs and into next season.
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News

Emmitt Smith-RB- Cowboys Feb. 21 - 12:31 pm et


ESPN has decided to not renew "analyst" Emmitt Smith's contract.
An overdue move. Truly one of the worst personalities in sports TV history, Smith exhibited surprisingly weak knowledge of the game and consistently butchered the English language. He did give hope to those young children hoping to become Hall of Fame running backs despite lesser intelligence.
Source: Dallas Morning News

[Holiday]

Rejoice, everyone! Emmitt Smith will no longer be butchering the English language on ESPN!

Hahaha, yes! My wish came true.

The guy couldn't even protect Steve Young from flying cups. He had to go.

[Dr. Evil]

Rejoice, everyone! Emmitt Smith will no longer be butchering the English language on ESPN!

And he will be replaced by at least 5 more NFL players, so that ESPN will have a total of 1,000,005 NFL Analysts.

[StorminNorman]

which is why The Hammer shouldn't even bother reinstating him....his presence will be detrimental to any team and cause an unneeded distraction...

I think the teams should make that decision. Mike Vick has paid his debt to society, he should be allowed to play football.

[BlackLantern]

I think the teams should make that decision. Mike Vick has paid his debt to society, he should be allowed to play football.

Playing in the NFL is a privelige, not a right....these athletes need to be made to understand that playing a professional sport requires that you behave in an appropriate fashion, that you are held to a higher standard....and its grinds my ****ing gears that people are calling what Vick did a "mistake"....**** that...Locking your keys in your car is a mistake, calling someone the wrong name is a mistake....this guy was involved in a criminal enterprise...at his own home, no less.....I hope the NFL does to him what the MLB owners did to Barry Bonds this year....let him sit at home....

[StorminNorman]

Playing in the NFL is a privelige, not a right....these athletes need to be made to understand that playing a professional sport requires that you behave in an appropriate fashion, that you are held to a higher standard....and its grinds my ****ing gears that people are calling what Vick did a "mistake"....**** that...Locking your keys in your car is a mistake, calling someone the wrong name is a mistake....this guy was involved in a criminal enterprise...at his own home, no less.....I hope the NFL does to him what the MLB owners did to Barry Bonds this year....let him sit at home....

If Ray Lewis and Leonard Little can play in the NFL, there is a place for Mike Vick.

[SurfDUI]

ESPN has decided to not renew "analyst" Emmitt Smith's contract.
An overdue move. Truly one of the worst personalities in sports TV history, Smith exhibited surprisingly weak knowledge of the game and consistently butchered the English language. He did give hope to those young children hoping to become Hall of Fame running backs despite lesser intelligence. Source: Dallas Morning News

now damn, thats a lil harsh ain't it...worse than 'The Majic Hour' or Kareem Jabar w/ a microphone:dry:

Hahaha, yes! My wish came true.

The guy couldn't even protect Steve Young from flying cups. He had to go.

WTF?!?! :woot:When did that happen.

Playing in the NFL is a privelige, not a right....these athletes need to be made to understand that playing a professional sport requires that you behave in an appropriate fashion, that you are held to a higher standard....and its grinds my ****ing gears that people are calling what Vick did a "mistake"....**** that...Locking your keys in your car is a mistake:woot:, calling someone the wrong name is a mistake....this guy was involved in a criminal enterprise...at his own home, no less.....I hope the NFL does to him what the MLB owners did to Barry Bonds this year....let him sit at home....

If Ray Lewis and Leonard Little can play in the NFL, there is a place for Mike Vick.

BlackL YOU are the Hammer!!:cmad:http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

Mannn I think The 7 was a real bagofcrap for chockin dogs out that lost a fight, I mean some of them stories was like whoa...but cmon, VICK did not walk up to a team and tell them to make him a QB, he was drafted and produced and got to an NFC Championship game, there is a place for him back in the NFL. Stormin is right, Leonard Little was back in no time.

As a society we should all work at a high standard, if your job is televised or not. You can't hold some of these things against people forever, can you? I hear you, and I agree, but he did serve time, and he's a felon from here on out, but he's still a young guy who needs to work.

[Alex The Great]

So Tom Brady should be ready for opening game?

thank god

[That-Guy]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ed7da4&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true


Hey how about more NFL nicknames?

Jeff "I Can Kick Your Towel Dispenser's Ass" Reed

[Marx]

The Bengals franchised Shane Graham.

:dry:

[danielisthor]

And he will be replaced by at least 5 more NFL players, so that ESPN will have a total of 1,000,005 NFL Analysts.

all but 5 of them will be stationed either in Dallas, New England or up Brett Favre's @$$.

[Dr. Evil]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ed7da4&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true


Hey how about more NFL nicknames?

Jeff "I Can Kick Your Towel Dispenser's Ass" Reed

Goddell will probably overreact on this.

[Immortalfire]

Source: Dallas Morning News

Praise the Lord! :woot:

[Holiday]

WTF?!?! :woot:When did that happen.


It was at Carolina for a Monday night game. I'm sure it's on YouTube somewhere. Dunno why anyone would throw something at Steve Young though, he's such a nice guy.

[Immortalfire]

Baby Mangino! Sup. :)

[Go Web Go!]

Dunno why anyone would throw something at Steve Young though, he's such a nice guy.

Peeps get drunk

[Holiday]

Peeps get drunk

Yeah, but even drunk that person should've had the good sense to throw the cup at Emmitt. :hehe:

[RAMORE]

If Ray Lewis and Leonard Little can play in the NFL, there is a place for Mike Vick.

Amen! He's done his time damnit people who were locked up still deserve to have a life and a career.

[BlackLantern]

Amen! He's done his time damnit people who were locked up still deserve to have a life and a career.

a life....yes....Id say a job, not a lucrative career....he can put on a shirt and tie go to work everyday like a good number of Americans do....he isn't obligated or entitled to be a professional athlete

[Dark Donnie]

Report: Vikes on verge of acquiring Rosenfels

The Houston Chronicle reports that the Vikings are on the verge of acquiring Sage Rosenfels from the Texans in exchange for a fourth-round pick.

This trade was nearly made last year, but Houston balked when the Vikes offered only a third-round choice. The Texans wanted a second-rounder. Rosenfels, 31 in March, would immediately become the favorite to start in Minnesota if the deal is completed. The aggressive passer is considered a strong fit for the West Coast offense coach Brad Childress runs. Feb. 23 - 1:22 pm et
Source: Houston Chronicle

[Go Web Go!]

Yeah, but even drunk that person should've had the good sense to throw the cup at Emmitt. :hehe:

Can't say I disagree.

Source: Houston Chronicle

Good luck with that.

[StorminNorman]

I wonder if Rosenfel didn't fumble that ball in Indy if the compensation would be a fourth round pick.

[RAMORE]

It would be more.


BlackLantern I didn't get why some of yall put Professional athletes jobs up their with so much prestige and that it's a privelage and what not. That's a joke to me. ANYBODY working right now is privelaged and should be thankful and put forward their best effort. Their job is no different from mine except they get pail ALOT more and people watch which is why they are paid more.

[Dr. Evil]

It took the Vikings long enough to realize Tarvaris Jackson sucks. That or Gus Frerotte is not coming back (retiring).

[The Incredible Hulk]

Source: Houston Chronicle


Nice to see the "Jewish Rifle" is still in demand. :)

[NewYorkSpider]

Dimitroff has said they're not giving him a call.


I'm surprised they're not going after him, even when he said he would be willing to play in Atlanta. The Bucs are also rumored to intrested in him, but it looks like Tennessee is gonna get him back.

Also hearing rumblings of Marvin Harrison ending up in Philadelphia.

[Go Web Go!]

Harrison's leaving Indy because he wants to get paid. I doubt very many teams are willing to give him much at 36.

[RAMORE]

I think he might make concessions to go to Philly and play with donovan who I hear was his College QB. Plus doesn't he live in Philly during the offseason?

[Go Web Go!]

Yeah, I think that's where he shoots at people and gets away with it on his off time.

[Darthphere]

I remember when Sage Rosenfel was with the Dolphins people would go crazy for them to put him in the game. They finally did, and he sucked.

[Go Web Go!]

To be fair, up until last season, everyone after Danny sucked. :(

[Darthphere]

Jay Fiedler was awesome.

[Go Web Go!]

He had a few good years, but he wasn't great. He did a fine enough job right up until they brought in AJ Feeley, whos only highlight in a Dolphin uniform was his painful reaction to a slap on the ass.

[Excel]

McNabb finally does what he shoulda have done a long time ago.

Donovan McNabb has grown tired of the Eagles' shenanigans (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Donovan-McNabb-has-grown-tired-of-the-Eagles-sh?urn=nfl,143565)
For the longest time, the story has been that the Philadelphia Eagles (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/phi/) might not want Donovan McNabb (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4650/) anymore. But guess what, Eagles? Donovan McNabb might not want you anymore.

That's the word from ESPN's Michael Smith (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3929063), who reports that McNabb and the Eagles had a long sit-down last week. McNabb, according to Smith, has indicated that he might not be willing to talk contract extension until he sees what Philadelphia does to upgrade their receiving corps and offensive line. Here's a snippet:
Although McNabb wants to remain in Philadelphia, if the Eagles aren't successful in significantly upgrading an offense that needs help at wide receiver, running back and offensive tackle (veterans Jon Runyan (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3666/) and Tra Thomas (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4276/) are free agents beginning Friday), not only may McNabb drop his request for a new contract, he may consider going as far as to ask the Eagles to trade him.
How do you like those apples, Eagles organization? You can show Donovan McNabb some love by signing a receiver a little better than Hank Baskett (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8010/), or you can go into next season with your precious little Kevin Kolb (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8290/) under center. Donovan McNabb won't be pushed around anymore!

And it's hard to blame him. It seems like the guy to has to defend his own presence every year, even when the organization's given him a grand total of one good receiver in nine years, and zero good receivers who weren't team-dividing distractions. So if he wants to make the Eagles sweat a little bit now that he's got the chance, I'm all for it.

As for any potential free agent receivers that the Eagles may talk to, there really aren't many out there. There's T.J. Houshmandzadeh (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5652/), and then a big drop-off to a group of guys who aren't any better than what the Eagles have now. Unless they're willing to go the trade route, it's Houshmandzadeh or nothing. And he just got some handy new negotiating leverage.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Donovan-McNabb-has-grown-tired-of-the-Eagles-sh;_ylt=AjX1p_INKr55wW8Vi60jvuNDubYF?urn=nfl,14356 5

Good for McNabb and good for Phily. Its about time he did this. This is as close to sticking it to the retarded fans who boo him that he will ever get. If they dislike him so much, lets see how good they are without him. Everybody knows McNabb will get the last laugh either way (Kolb will be terrible; McNabb with a good wo would be mvp esque) so he mide as well get it in Phily.

[Dark Donnie]

A few years too late McNabb.

[Go Web Go!]

A few years too late McNabb.

Ding Ding Ding

[Dark Donnie]

Ding Ding Ding

Love the guy, but he's been a mouthpiece for this organization for years.

With that said, with the $42 Million that is reported we have under the cap. They should be able to get him weapons...They can't screw up this offseason.

[Go Web Go!]

That's right - especially since TJ's putting himself out there by saying he used the game against Philly as an audition, wouldn't mind playing with McNabb, so on & so forth. Philly can't drop the ball this offseason as you said.

[Excel]

A few years too late McNabb.

Not really, they do listen to him. Last year he whined and they responded by adding Asante and offering Moss 4 years at 10 million a year, by far his best offer. With Randy Moss Phily prob. wins the 13-14 regular season games and McNabb is probably MVP with over 4000 yards and 40 touchdowns.

Obviously Moss took the smaller deal to stay a Pat which is ebyind Reids control and probably why you didn't hear McNabb whining about not adding anybody last off season (outside of DeSean), but the point is they played ball and went after the wr. Now you have the premiere free agent wide out saying he wants to be an Eagle, and he just happens to be literally a perfect fit on the field and in the locker for the Eagles. McNabb, who is the Eagles offense, putting public pressure on them to go after the guy is in the best interest of everybody involved with Philadelphia football.

If they can sign Housh, draft an offensive tackle and either Wells or McCoy in the 1st round, the Philadelphia Eagles with McNabb at the hlm will be a show to watch next year on offense.

Theres no drop off in McNabb passing ability; that is the same as it was when he was 25. He cant make as many plays with his feet, but if with Housh and amore devleoped DeSean Jackson as his wr, McNabb will have no trouble topping 30-35 touchdown passes next season.