2009 NFL Thread

[Fresh Prince]

Did Trotter sign back with Eagles? I read the newspaparer and it said he was at camp training.

[Kane52630]

hey Fresh Prince remember this :hehe:

http://i35.tinypic.com/2m7dn6f.jpg

[Fresh Prince]

I remember that, but Jackson still a nice receiver so....

[CConn]

And the Eagles still ended up beating Dallas to keep them out of the playoffs. :o

[Kane52630]

And the Eagles still ended up beating Dallas to keep them out of the playoffs. :o

i know, thats the upside to it :woot::woot:

[CConn]

If you show me a clip of that then I will stand corrected.I have no clue how to find it. But I literally remember saying to my friend "why is he standing like that?" while watching that last drive.
McNabb is a sure fire Hall of Famer if he wins a ring. He'll retire with better numbers then guys like Namath and Aikman just to name a few.Oh, I agree with you there. Look at a lot of Hall of Fame QB's numbers...you can play pretty damn badly, as long as you last in the league a decade or so and win a Super Bowl or two, you're going to be in the Hall of Fame.

But, if he doesn't win a Super Bowl he'll go down in the annals as just another Randall Cunningham; at times fun to watch, at times a good quarterback, but ultimately someone who simply wasn't good enough to win a championship.

Even outside of that, just in my opinion, I hate watching McNabb play. It's agonizing for me to watch most of the time. Even if he's the Eagles best chance to win a Super Bowl, watching him just isn't fun. Watching Jeff Garcia, that was fun. Watching Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, even Tony Romo, that's fun. McNabb's way of running an offense just is painful to watch at times. But that's totally my opinion.

[Addendum]

Or if you have a great career with no super bowl, you can get in

[CConn]

Of course. I highly doubt McNabb's numbers are there, though.

[Addendum]

Only ones that matter are those who vote for the Hall of Fame

[Fresh Prince]

Sure Mcnabb can get in even without a ring if his numbers are good which they are and will continue to get better. Also Mcnabb is a better QB then Cunningham was.

But I feel that if Vick can learn the offense and read the defense well, he can lead the Eagles to a Super Bowl. Vick potentially could be the best QB in the NFL He can run and throw.

[FaT_tONle]

McNabb isn't a HOF. When I think HOF I think best player at the position for a 4-5 year stretch. You have to go Brady, Manning, Warner before even discussing a fourth QB from this era. I don't think Roethelisberger will get in unless he gets to another Superbowl and plays for another 8 years or so to compile the numbers. I think if Rivers wins one and continues on the pace he's at now then he's also in the discussion. You can't even put a guy like Brees anywhere near borderline HOF until he either does it for another 3-4 years or wins a Superbowl. Obviously Farve will get in. So that's four 1st ballot. Brees will need to put up ridiculous numbers over the next few years to have that Dan Fouts esque argument. McNabb would be a distant fifth. The next batch I'd say Roethelisberger and Rivers have the inside track. Next QB's will be Warner/Farve... then Brady/Manning... then I see Big Ben/Rivers... with maybe Brees slipping in.

[enterthemadness]

McNabb isn't a HOF. When I think HOF I think best player at the position for a 4-5 year stretch. You have to go Brady, Manning, Warner before even discussing a fourth QB from this era. I don't think Roethelisberger will get in unless he gets to another Superbowl and plays for another 8 years or so to compile the numbers. I think if Rivers wins one and continues on the pace he's at now then he's also in the discussion. You can't even put a guy like Brees anywhere near borderline HOF until he either does it for another 3-4 years or wins a Superbowl. Obviously Farve will get in. So that's four 1st ballot. Brees will need to put up ridiculous numbers over the next few years to have that Dan Fouts esque argument. McNabb would be a distant fifth. The next batch I'd say Roethelisberger and Rivers have the inside track.

Does every team have their own HOF? If so, I know McNabb will get in. He's been the heart/soul of that team since he's been there. Or maybe I am thinking of every team reitres a player's jersey if that player was really great?

[CConn]

Yeah, teams retire Jerseys...and McNabb's probably will be...but Philadelphia really hasn't been a breeding ground for great QBs. The best we've ever had was Norm Van Brocklin...50 years ago.

[Excel]

McNabb isn't a HOF. When I think HOF I think best player at the position for a 4-5 year stretch.

Wah? If that was the case there would only by 2 every decade per positions. How would anybody who played with Rice pre-97 get in?

You have to go Brady, Manning, Warner before even discussing a fourth QB from this era.

1st 2 obvious, but Kurt Warner? No way, not now anyways. I can see him getting in with a few more solid seasons but not yet.

McNabbs got 196 touchdown passes to Warner 185 (plus another 27 rushing, to Warners 3) and 96 interceptions to Warners 116. McNabb has put up better #s without throwing to Fitzgerald, Boldin, Bruce, or Holt (all in their primes). The thought of Mcnabb having either of those pairs in during his prime is mind boggling. McNabb has also been MUCH more consistent than warner throughout hsi career (Remember Kurt with the Giants? Yeah, didnt think so.)

Yeah, Warner won a super bowl while McNabb hasnt. Outside of that, he has NOTHING on McNabb and thats not arguable.


I don't think Roethelisberger will get in unless he gets to another Superbowl and plays for another 8 years or so to compile the numbers. I think if Rivers wins one and continues on the pace he's at now then he's also in the discussion. You can't even put a guy like Brees anywhere near borderline HOF until he either does it for another 3-4 years or wins a Superbowl. Obviously Farve will get in. So that's four 1st ballot. Brees will need to put up ridiculous numbers over the next few years to have that Dan Fouts esque argument. McNabb would be a distant fifth. The next batch I'd say Roethelisberger and Rivers have the inside track. Next QB's will be Warner/Farve... then Brady/Manning... then I see Big Ben/Rivers... with maybe Brees slipping in.

Being a hall of famer is basically this: consistently playing at a very high level for a long time. Winning and or espec. stats determine the level players are playing at. Overall impact > everything (i.e....Mike Irvin only had what, 67 career touchdown receptions? Randy has 1/3 of that in 1 season 2 years ago).

McNabbs entering his 10th season as the starter. He has twice as many tds then interceptions, has been the super bowls and championship games. He has a great wr on his team for 1 of those years. Right now he is probably a borderline guy who doesnt make it. Most will concede he was a hall of fame talent who wasnt always put in a situation to put up gawdy #'s, thus making his #'s and win-loss record/playoff appearence all the more impressive, but the lack of any real accomplishments throughout hurts him. However, should he win a super bowl, or add another 50-75 touchdown passes and go deep into the playoffs again a few times...I dont see how he doesnt get in.

Norm put it well the other day when he said that the media and history glamorize players when they retire, not the other way around. McNabbs been an icon.

When he retires, well hear about his impressive #'s and all the time he spent on the field in January. Considering well know doubt hear analysts in his corner shouting how he never had a real good wr outside of 2004...I say he gets in.

[Ace of Knaves]

Interesting, Moss AND Welker might be out for the Pats today. If that's true then I'm very confident for the win :up:

Gooooo Falcons!!!

[enterthemadness]

Interesting, Moss AND Welker might be out for the Pats today. If that's true then I'm very confident for the win :up:

Gooooo Falcons!!!

Good thing I have some WR back up in on my team in the fantasy league I am in.

[BigSams50]

Interesting, Moss AND Welker might be out for the Pats today. If that's true then I'm very confident for the win :up:

Gooooo Falcons!!!

If moss and welker are out, atlanta will walk all over NE

[Immortalfire]

Interesting, Moss AND Welker might be out for the Pats today. If that's true then I'm very confident for the win :up:

Gooooo Falcons!!!

Belichick's just trying to be sneaky. They'll play.

[Dude101]

Im rooting for a Patriots win.

[Fresh Prince]

McNabb isn't a HOF. When I think HOF I think best player at the position for a 4-5 year stretch. You have to go Brady, Manning, Warner before even discussing a fourth QB from this era. I don't think Roethelisberger will get in unless he gets to another Superbowl and plays for another 8 years or so to compile the numbers. I think if Rivers wins one and continues on the pace he's at now then he's also in the discussion. You can't even put a guy like Brees anywhere near borderline HOF until he either does it for another 3-4 years or wins a Superbowl. Obviously Farve will get in. So that's four 1st ballot. Brees will need to put up ridiculous numbers over the next few years to have that Dan Fouts esque argument. McNabb would be a distant fifth. The next batch I'd say Roethelisberger and Rivers have the inside track. Next QB's will be Warner/Farve... then Brady/Manning... then I see Big Ben/Rivers... with maybe Brees slipping in.

Mcnabb will get in, he put up consistent numbers, and lead his teams to 5 conference championship games and a Super Bowl. And Marino got in and he won no SB and his final days with Miami were not great. So Mcnabb can get in.

And Warner only had like 3 good years with the Rams from 00-02, and last year with Arizona. Mcnabb had more good years then Warner in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2009.

[FaT_tONle]

Wah? If that was the case there would only by 2 every decade per positions. How would anybody who played with Rice pre-97 get in?

Rice, Tim Brown, Carter are the only guys I think of from that era. Irvin I guess was borderline who got in. It doesn't mean one guy, but no more than 3-4 players at the postition every dacade or so.

1st 2 obvious, but Kurt Warner? No way, not now anyways. I can see him getting in with a few more solid seasons but not yet.

Warner spearheaded what was the most deadly offense we have seen for a three year stetch and it's not even close. Maybe you can talk about the Chargers of the 80's (who never won it) or the 03-06 Colts but the Rams were the best of those three. Warner is one of the highest rated passer of all time. Just set the completion percentage in a single game. The guy is in. Maybe not first ballot if he's eligible the same year as Farve but nonetheless he is clearly in.

McNabbs got 196 touchdown passes to Warner 185 (plus another 27 rushing, to Warners 3) and 96 interceptions to Warners 116. McNabb has put up better #s without throwing to Fitzgerald, Boldin, Bruce, or Holt (all in their primes). The thought of Mcnabb having either of those pairs in during his prime is mind boggling. McNabb has also been MUCH more consistent than warner throughout hsi career (Remember Kurt with the Giants? Yeah, didnt think so.)

Yeah, Warner won a super bowl while McNabb hasnt. Outside of that, he has NOTHING on McNabb and thats not arguable.

Say what you want about the teams and talent but the numbers aren't even close in key areas. McNabb's one HOF year was when he had T.O... other than that he has been solid at best. And he was outdueled twice by Warner in TWO Championship games. That means Warner is far ahead of McNabb.

Being a hall of famer is basically this: consistently playing at a very high level for a long time. Winning and or espec. stats determine the level players are playing at. Overall impact > everything (i.e....Mike Irvin only had what, 67 career touchdown receptions? Randy has 1/3 of that in 1 season 2 years ago).

McNabbs entering his 10th season as the starter. He has twice as many tds then interceptions, has been the super bowls and championship games. He has a great wr on his team for 1 of those years. Right now he is probably a borderline guy who doesnt make it. Most will concede he was a hall of fame talent who wasnt always put in a situation to put up gawdy #'s, thus making his #'s and win-loss record/playoff appearence all the more impressive, but the lack of any real accomplishments throughout hurts him. However, should he win a super bowl, or add another 50-75 touchdown passes and go deep into the playoffs again a few times...I dont see how he doesnt get in.

Norm put it well the other day when he said that the media and history glamorize players when they retire, not the other way around. McNabbs been an icon.

When he retires, well hear about his impressive #'s and all the time he spent on the field in January. Considering well know doubt hear analysts in his corner shouting how he never had a real good wr outside of 2004...I say he gets in.

McNabb's career numbers do not compare to Warner and Brees completion % and rating wise if you look it up. McNabb has compiled wins and numbers in the other categories having played in the league as long as he has but so did Randall Cunningham and Warren Moon. Which of those guys are in the HOF?

[Fresh Prince]

How Warner better QB then Mcnabb cause he beat him in two championshp conference games? You see who Warner had and who Mcnabb had.

If Mcnabb had the wide outs that Warner had, Mcnabb beat him in them two conference championship games.

[Fresh Prince]

Got Falcons over Pats 34-17. Also Vick debuts today for EAGLES!!!!!!!

[FaT_tONle]

How Warner better QB then Mcnabb cause he beat him in two championshp conference games? You see who Warner had and who Mcnabb had.

If Mcnabb had the wide outs that Warner had, Mcnabb beat him in them two conference championship games.

Hypotheticals... while we are at it, let's give Warner the Eagles defense/special teams units and give the Eagles the Rams/Cardinals defense as well.

And let me get my picks in before the games start. Went 2-2 again last week... 4-4 on the year. I pick the toughest games each week so I'll give myself a break.

New England 24 Atlanta 21
NYJ 20 Tennessee 17
Saints 30 Bills 27
Arizona 34 Indianapolis 24

[Fresh Prince]

Mcnabb could of won a SB with St. Louis with that defense, the defense was good too anyways.

[BlackLantern]

about high 50's/low 60's here in the northeast today and rainy...lots of rain...both the Pats and Jets games are expecting rain the entire afternoon

[Fresh Prince]

Chiefs/Eagles game might be sloppy cause of rain.

[StorminNorman]

How Warner better QB then Mcnabb cause he beat him in two championshp conference games? You see who Warner had and who Mcnabb had.

If Mcnabb had the wide outs that Warner had, Mcnabb beat him in them two conference championship games.

McNabb had arguably better all around teams teams. Kurt has gone to three Super Bowls, with two different teams, is one of the most efficient passers in NFL history, has two MVP honors, a Super Bowl MVP and comparable numbers in spite of less play time.

I would consider Kurt a Hall of Famer, I don't consider McNabb one at this time.

[BlackLantern]

agreed Norm...i'd take Warner over McNabb if given the choice

[StorminNorman]

Mcnabb could of won a SB with St. Louis with that defense, the defense was good too anyways.

McNabb would have chocked. It's what he does.

[Marx]

I just saw that Michael Vick was activated for today's game...

[Kane52630]

in my picks i dont know what game to choose, ATL or NE

[Marx]

in my picks i dont know what game to choose, ATL or NE

It's always hard to bet against Tom Brady.

[NewYorkSpider]

in my picks i dont know what game to choose, ATL or NE


This is the game I've been thinking about all week long. Matt Ryan is 5-1 against AFC teams. Of course most of those teams were in the AFC West last year. Tom Brady also hasn't lost a home game since Nov 12th 2006. I think this is a game you just pray you pick the right winner.

[Marx]

Does anyone know if Brandon Stokley is starting today? I know he's supposed to be a game time decision...

[BlackLantern]

I'm still trying to figure out how Eric Mangini has a head coaching job....you get fired and get the EXACT same job in a different place...makes no sense

[Ace of Knaves]

This is the game I've been thinking about all week long. Matt Ryan is 5-1 against AFC teams. Of course most of those teams were in the AFC West last year. Tom Brady also hasn't lost a home game since Nov 12th 2006. I think this is a game you just pray you pick the right winner.

Whatever happens, I think it will be an entertaining game. Could be a shoot out.

I tip the balance in the Falcons favour due to us having a better running game. We need to get pressure on Brady early. Get Abe free in one on one situations so he can get at him. No matter how good you are you get isolated against Abraham he'll beat ya most times.

[Fresh Prince]

I just saw that Michael Vick was activated for today's game...

They will use him in that wildcat crap.

[Fresh Prince]

Got Falcons 48-42 over Pats.

[Ace of Knaves]

Hmm I dunno if it will be THAT high scoring, but it'll be a shoot out for sure.

Wes Welker is officially out. That'll make it easier for us, we can double up on Moss. But that doesn't automatically guarantee he'll be contained, obviously.

[NewYorkSpider]

Whatever happens, I think it will be an entertaining (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=319069&page=362#) game. Could be a shoot out.

I tip the balance in the Falcons favour due to us having a better running game. We need to get pressure on Brady early. Get Abe free in one on one situations so he can get at him. No matter how good you are you get isolated against Abraham he'll beat ya most times


I'm giving the edge to Atlanta as well. The Patriots don't run the ball as good as they used to. Not good when you're playing in the rain.


I'm still trying to figure out how Eric Mangini has a head coaching job....you get fired and get the EXACT same job in a different place...makes no sense


The Browns need to unload Quinn or Anderson in a trade. I think they're putting too much pressure on their starting QB by having these controversies every week on who is going to play, or if someone may lose their starting job.

[Fresh Prince]

Hopefully Vick plays good today and the team in general. Playing the Chiefs help though.

[Immortalfire]

Let's go Falcons :up:

[Fresh Prince]

Vick in the game early.

[Ace of Knaves]

What time is kick off Fire? It's 6 pm here right now.

[Fresh Prince]

What time is kick off Fire? It's 6 pm here right now.

Were you live?

[NewYorkSpider]

Jets are having a brilliant drive down the field.

[Fresh Prince]

Eagles defense smutthering Kansas City so far.

[Poeman]

sanchez is my hero! WOWOW

[-Arya-]

Giants ahead of the Bucs 7-0 :up:

[Immortalfire]

What time is kick off Fire? It's 6 pm here right now.

It's on right now.

[Ace of Knaves]

YES!!! I've found a stream!

Nice drive down the field but we should of got the TD.

Nice coverage on the kick return :up:

[Fresh Prince]

Eagles ahead of Chiefs 7-0.:up:

[NewYorkSpider]

The Jets look absolutely scary right now. I said it last week and I'll say it again. They are a Super Bowl contender.

[Poeman]

Wow Sanchize with another TD...and the Band of Lunatics force a 3 and out

This Jets team is really good

[Fresh Prince]

Eagles up 14-0. Nice start.

[Fresh Prince]

The Jets look absolutely scary right now. I said it last week and I'll say it again. They are a Super Bowl contender.

Lets hold that one off I mean Jets started 8-3 last year and you saw what happen. Only 3 games so far lets wait until towards the end of the year or mid season to say Super Bowl contenders.

[Fresh Prince]

Well looks like Birds got thisg ame in the bag, we going 2-1.

[NewYorkSpider]

Lets hold that one off I mean Jets started 8-3 last year and you saw what happen. Only 3 games so far lets wait until towards the end of the year or mid season to say Super Bowl contenders.

The Jets didn't have Rex Ryan last season. Plus, they had a 40 year old QB that wore down as the season progressed.

[Go Web Go!]

Super Bowl contender talk in week 3. :dry:

[Poeman]

I agree... Im a Jets fan too New York Spider...lets wait it out a bit before we talk about super bowls. Because there have been many years throughout the past 40 years weve said Jets are going to the superbowl

They are awesome right now though

[NewYorkSpider]

Super Bowl contender talk in week 3. :dry:

There's Super Bowl contender talk before the season even starts. There's nothing run with me voicing my opinion about a team in week 3.

[Immortalfire]

When did New England decide to be a running team?

[Fresh Prince]

Pats up 10-3 on ATL.

[Ace of Knaves]

Heh, that's what I was about to say. Fricking Fred Taylor!!! :cmad:

[Fresh Prince]

When did New England decide to be a running team?

When you least expect it. Come on man this is a Bellechick team, they all full of surprises.

[Fresh Prince]

Man were killing Kansas City.

[Fresh Prince]

I agree... Im a Jets fan too New York Spider...lets wait it out a bit before we talk about super bowls. Because there have been many years throughout the past 40 years weve said Jets are going to the superbowl

They are awesome right now though

Didn't they pick Jets to win SB in 2003?

[BlackLantern]

god....is it ****** uniform day or something...those god awful Titan uniforms, the Texans and their all-red getup, Tennessee wearing the oilers crap

[Immortalfire]

god....is it ****** uniform day or something...those god awful Titan uniforms, the Texans and their all-red getup, Tennessee wearing the oilers crap

This throwback stuff is ridiculous.

[War Party]

Let's hope the Eagles don't wear those hideous yellow uniforms again.

[Go Web Go!]

I think the Titans look good. And I mean the Tennessee Titans, not the New York Titans.

[Poeman]

Didn't they pick Jets to win SB in 2003?

also 1999 and 2007 was supposed to be our year after Mangini lost to Bellicheat in the playoffs in 2006

[Fresh Prince]

I love the throwback, perfect way of celebrating 50 year anniversary of the old AFL.

Plus its cool and retro to see these old uniforms.

[NewYorkSpider]

I agree... Im a Jets fan too New York Spider...lets wait it out a bit before we talk about super bowls. Because there have been many years throughout the past 40 years weve said Jets are going to the superbowl

They are awesome right now though


I never said they were going to win the Super Bowl. :huh: I said they look like a Super Bowl contender AT THE MOMENT.

[Immortalfire]

Let's hope the Eagles don't wear those hideous yellow uniforms again.

Those powder blues with Pac Man on the helmet? I guess their game plan with those is to distract the other team by having them laugh themselves sick.

[Fresh Prince]

Let's hope the Eagles don't wear those hideous yellow uniforms again.

I'm sure they will since everybody esle wearing their retro uniforms.

And I cannot wait to see them if they do wear them.

Remember we destroyed Detroit wearing them jersey's.

[Fresh Prince]

Those powder blues with Pac Man on the helmet? I guess their game plan with those is to distract the other team by having them laugh themselves sick.

Them jersey's were amazing. So timeless like.

[BlackLantern]

the AFL is dead and gone...I'm all for memorializing a part of football history but it's getting ridiculous...I'm a fan of progress

[Immortalfire]

Them jersey's were amazing. So timeless like.

They're laughably hideous, and a crime against humanity's entire fashion sense.

[Go Web Go!]

Wow.

Really?

Really, refs?

Are you ****ing kidding me?

[Fresh Prince]

also 1999 and 2007 was supposed to be our year after Mangini lost to Bellicheat in the playoffs in 2006

Well 1999 I beleive since they came off a trip to the AFC Championship appearance the following year, but 2006 though?

[Go Web Go!]

I'm sure they will since everybody esle wearing their retro uniforms.

And I cannot wait to see them if they do wear them.

Remember we destroyed Detroit wearing them jersey's.

They're not wearing those again.

And who hasn't destroyed the Lions?

[Poeman]

poor tackling there by the jets

[War Party]

I'm sure they will since everybody esle wearing their retro uniforms.

And I cannot wait to see them if they do wear them.

Remember we destroyed Detroit wearing them jersey's.

Yeah because wearing a certain kind of jersey has something to do with winning football games. Those uniforms are seriously ugly.

[Addendum]

The only retro unis I don't like were those ugly Eagles unis they wore a year or 2 ago.

But the retro AFL unis, I like em

[Fresh Prince]

They're not wearing those again.

And who hasn't destroyed the Lions?

Lions were okay that season, they finished 8-8 I beleive.

[Fresh Prince]

Kansas City scored shockingly.

[Ace of Knaves]

Beautiful route by White. Converted 4th and 3 :up:

[Fresh Prince]

Detroit could actually win a game against Washington.

[Immortalfire]

Belichick's red flag is in his sock...wtf

[Fresh Prince]

Yeah Jackson!!!!!! 21-7 Eagles.

[War Party]

Deshaun Jackson is scary!!!!

[Fresh Prince]

Best kick returner/punt returner in NFL.

[BlackLantern]

giants are shutting TB down so far

[Fresh Prince]

Hey War Party Eagles have a bye week next week?

[Ace of Knaves]

Belichick's red flag is in his sock...wtf

Ehhh I think it will get reversed :(

Edit: WOW That surprised me. Honestly fought the ball touched the ground.

[Go Web Go!]

TB is #1 pick material

[Ace of Knaves]

TOUCHDOWN!! Tha Burner!!!!

[Fresh Prince]

TB is #1 pick material

Lol just a year ago they was 12-4.

[War Party]

Hey War Party Eagles have a bye week next week?

Si.

[Immortalfire]

TOUCHDOWN!! Tha Burner!!!!

:woot:

[NewYorkSpider]

TB is #1 pick material

I have them finishing 2-14. Their schedule is brutal.

[BlackLantern]

Atlanta and Detroit are my upest picks

[Immortalfire]

Lol just a year ago they was 12-4.

Tampa was 9-7 last year

[Ace of Knaves]

Yes Pats go 3 and out!

C'mon get down that field!!!!

[Kane52630]

i was about to switch my pick to ATL but it was too late :(

[Go Web Go!]

Marty Booker?! That's a blast from the past.

[Fresh Prince]

Si.

Who they play in week 5? You know?

[Ace of Knaves]

HAHA yea, old school. He's done alright for us so far.

[Cunning Stunts]

Atlanta and Detroit are my upest picks

I really don't know that we can call either an upset, given how the four teams involved have been playing so far. Everyone is expecting Detroit to win this one. I only really hear the blind D.C. fanboys who think the Redskins are a better team than the '07 Pats saying that they'll beat the Lions.

[Immortalfire]

Turner the Burner needs to get treatment for his fumbleitis

:facepalm:

[Fresh Prince]

So you guys think your Falcons could win it all this year?

[Ace of Knaves]

Fooks sake!!!

[Cmill216]

giants are shutting TB down so far

This game should be 28-0 right now.

[Fresh Prince]

I really don't know that we can call either an upset, given how the four teams involved have been playing so far. Everyone is expecting Detroit to win this one. I only really hear the blind D.C. fanboys who think the Redskins are a better team than the '07 Pats saying that they'll beat the Lions.

Lol they think Redskins a better team then 07 Pats? Shoot!

Redskins not even a playoff contender let alone super bowl/unbeaten squad.

[Immortalfire]

So you guys think your Falcons could win it all this year?

I don't think that far ahead.

[Ace of Knaves]

So you guys think your Falcons could win it all this year?

To early to tell to be honest.

I think we have a great offense. But our passing D isn't brilliant. We give up a lot of yards, but so far not that many points.

[Silver Knight]

So you guys think your Falcons could win it all this year?
No chance.

[Cunning Stunts]

At this point, it really looks like the Saints might be taking the NFC South. Drew Brees just looks borderline unstoppable.

[War Party]

Who they play in week 5? You know?

Tampa

[Kane52630]

i didnt know that Garcia was back with the Eagles

[Cunning Stunts]

i didnt know that Garcia was back with the Eagles

As of last week.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea, against two defenses not playing very well.

Should wait til Brees goes up against the Jets or someone like that. See what he does against them.

[Kane52630]

damn lol

[Dr. Evil]

Cleveland is terrible. Mangini should have taken a year off.

[Fresh Prince]

Tampa

Thats a win. We should be 3-1 after the Tampa game.

Tampa might be 0-5 after they play us.

[Cunning Stunts]

Lol they think Redskins a better team then 07 Pats? Shoot!

Redskins not even a playoff contender let alone super bowl/unbeaten squad.

Dude, if you ever come to D.C., just listen to any radio station/talk to any 'Skins fan... You'll be blown away as to how much they hype up their own ****** team. I've moved around a lot, so I've seen a few different fanbases... D.C.'s is by far the lamest.

[Fresh Prince]

24-7 Birds.

[Kelly]

Cowboy fans don't....lmao......all we do on the radio is ***** about our team.

[Fresh Prince]

Dude, if you ever come to D.C., just listen to any radio station/talk to any 'Skins fan... You'll be blown away as to how much they hype up their own ****** team. I've moved around a lot, so I've seen a few different fanbases... D.C.'s is by far the lamest.

They must be insane to think Redskins better then a near unbeaten team.

Their offense stinks, no wear near as great as Pats was in 07.

[Immortalfire]

24-7 Birds.

Dude, enough with the score updates. We can read the tickers on Yahoo :yay:

[Fresh Prince]

Cleveland is terrible. Mangini should have taken a year off.

The franchise as a whole needs to take years off.

[Kelly]

24-7 Birds.

Would that be the Falcons, Seahawks or Eagles????:cwink: There is quite a few fowl types in the NFL today....

[Fresh Prince]

Dude, enough with the score updates. We can read the tickers on Yahoo :yay:

Sorry jeez.

[The Game]

Galloway is killing me................

[Fresh Prince]

Would that be the Falcons, Seahawks or Eagles????:cwink: There is quite a few fowl types in the NFL today....

Its Eagles.

[Kane52630]

Its Eagles.

he was being sarcastic

[Kelly]

She....

and yes I was......

[Immortalfire]

he was being sarcastic

Kel is a she. And she will ban your butt for suggesting anything otherwise :hehe:

[CELTICPRED]

Damn Packers defense can't even stop an offense that had 7 points coming into this week.

Good lord.

[Kelly]

lol......no.....no.........no, I stopped doing that years ago.

[Immortalfire]

:csad:

[omid17]

Are the Pats playing any good? sorry can't watch the game im in Cali

[Marx]

Would that be the Falcons, Seahawks or Eagles????:cwink: There is quite a few fowl types in the NFL today....

There's also the Ravens and the Cardinals.

[Ace of Knaves]

They've found a run game from some where. Other than that nothing special really.

They just got a field goal before the half. 13-10 up.

[The Game]

Are the Pats playing any good? sorry can't watch the game im in Cali

Not too bad so far the redzone is still a problem and it does not help when fools like Galloway make weak plays :doh:

[Fresh Prince]

he was being sarcastic

Did not know she was.

[Dr. Evil]

I saw that ESPN's Lover scored the TD for Minnesota instead of Purple Jesus. ESPN will have a field day with that.

[omid17]

They've found a run game from some where. Other than that nothing special really.

They just got a field goal before the half. 13-10 up.thx

Not too bad so far the redzone is still a problem and it does not help when fools like Galloway make weak plays :doh::( damn

[omid17]

watchin the Viks game 12sec till halftime

[Fresh Prince]

I saw that ESPN's Lover scored the TD for Minnesota instead of Purple Jesus. ESPN will have a field day with that.

Damn straight they will. Be funny if 49ers steal the victory.

[Fresh Prince]

I lol at Redskins getting handled by Detroit. And their fans say Skins better then 07 Pats. Lol.

[omid17]

Holy ish!! 49ers just blocked field goal and scored a TD with 3 sec remaining

[omid17]

wow it should have been 16-7 viks at halftime instead it's 14-13 niners

[War Party]

Seriously, this NFL Redzone channel is amazing.

[Kane52630]

Seriously, this NFL Redzone channel is amazing.

yea i want to have it but not for $6, it should come with the NFL channel free

[Fresh Prince]

yea i want to have it but not for $6, it should come with the NFL channel free

Well you know with great quality like Red Zone it was gonna cost money to see it.

[War Party]

I get it for free. Didn't know they were charging people for it.

[Fresh Prince]

wow it should have been 16-7 viks at halftime instead it's 14-13 niners

Pretty sure Purple Jesus will lead Vikies to a win.

[Fresh Prince]

I get it for free. Didn't know they were charging people for it.

Wow you get it for free.:wow:

[War Party]

Wow you get it for free.:wow:

Well I never asked for it and no charges show up on my cable bill.

[omid17]

Well you know with great quality like Red Zone it was gonna cost money to see it.
true. i wish they gave us a month for free but its cool im sure it's worth it

[Kane52630]

Well I never asked for it and no charges show up on my cable bill.

what provider?

[Immortalfire]

It would be nice if we'd pressure Brady a little bit.

[War Party]

what provider?

Comcast.

[-Arya-]

Giants ahead 17-0. :woot:

[Fresh Prince]

true. i wish they gave us a month for free but its cool im sure it's worth it

Yeah I know only time they had it for free was week 1.

Since this is the opening month of NFL it should be for free only this month.

[Fresh Prince]

It would be nice if we'd pressure Brady a little bit.

Too bad your team's defense not like Giants.

[Kane52630]

Comcast.

i hate those bastards :cmad::cmad:
they rip me off so bad, when i had to get a new box to switch out they guy didnt do the paperwork right and gave the box to some other costumer with my name and charge me like $200 for a bunch of prono videos

[BlackLantern]

Seriously, this NFL Redzone channel is amazing.

it is...I have the sports package on my cable, so I get NFL network and Redzone

[Dr. Evil]

Does Mangini know Brady Quinn sucks yet?

[Kane52630]

it is...I have the sports package on my cable, so I get NFL network and Redzone

i get the NFL network without getting the sports package :D

[Kelly]

i hate those bastards :cmad::cmad:
they rip me off so bad, when i had to get a new box to switch out they guy didnt do the paperwork right and gave the box to some other costumer with my name and charge me like $200 for a bunch of prono videos

Just know that you made another family very happy....:yay:

[Fresh Prince]

i hate those bastards :cmad::cmad:
they rip me off so bad, when i had to get a new box to switch out they guy didnt do the paperwork right and gave the box to some other costumer with my name and charge me like $200 for a bunch of prono videos

I got Direct TV.

[Fresh Prince]

i get the NFL network without getting the sports package :D

Me too.

[Fresh Prince]

Does Mangini know Brady Quinn sucks yet?

Did Charlie Weis even know in Notre Dame?

[War Party]

i get the NFL network without getting the sports package :D

Comcast almost lost the NFl Network back in May. Good thing they didn't.

[Kane52630]

I got Direct TV.

Verizon Fios :D
phone, internet and TV

[War Party]

Verizon Fios :D
phone, internet and TV

Fios still isn't available where I am. But it's available five minutes up the road though. Does that make sense?

[Kane52630]

Fios still isn't available where I am. But it's available five minutes up the road though. Does that make sense?
yea its on selected areas, i know its weird
i say contact them and tell you want Fios in your area

[Fresh Prince]

Chiefs have no running game. Man Johnson sucks nowadays.

[BlackLantern]

depends...is there a city or county line five minutes away from you WP?

[omid17]

i have fios too but im movind this week and they said we have to use Charter for the new pad, ive never even heard of that company

[Poetic Chaos]

Pick son!!!!!! Niners with the ball and all the momentum.

[Kane52630]

i have fios too but im movind this week and they said we have to use Charter for the new pad, ive never even heard of that company

i have, its a relative unknown but i heard its good

[BlackLantern]

Charter has like one county here in CT....they're ok from what I hear

[War Party]

depends...is there a city or county line five minutes away from you WP?

No. It's still within in the limits of where I live.

[BlackLantern]

hmmm....its delineated by towns and counties here...where I live its Comcast, but if you take a 5 minute walk across a bridge into the next town over, its Cablevision

[omid17]

i have, its a relative unknown but i heard its good
hope so

[omid17]

Charter has like one county here in CT....they're ok from what I hearfor sure

[War Party]

hmmm....its delineated by towns and counties here...where I live its Comcast, but if you take a 5 minute walk across a bridge into the next town over, its Cablevision

Where I live, it's pretty much all Comcast here. But I just find it odd that my friend has Fios and he lives literally five minutes away. But when I call them about it, it ain't available yet.

[Kane52630]

No. It's still within in the limits of where I live.

yea it goes by zip code i think, i know when i was living here last year i got a flayer about my apartments installing Fios fiber optic wires, and the some guy came to install a new coaxial cable wall outlet

[Dark Helmet]

The refs are **** during the Patriots game. That one play was holding

[Dr. Evil]

Brady Quinn gets benched for Derek Anderson, who proceeds to throw an interception

[omid17]

Da Browns suck

[Kane52630]

Damn! what a catch from the Jets!!!

[Dr. Evil]

"Walls of" Jericho Cotcherrey!

[Fresh Prince]

Pats up 19-10 this could get ugly.

[War Party]

Jeff Garcia is in!

[Go Web Go!]

Brady Quinn gets benched for Derek Anderson, who proceeds to throw an interception

:hehe:

[Fresh Prince]

Eagles fumble!

[War Party]

And he fumbles.

[Fresh Prince]

Not like Kansas City will score anwyas.

Expecting Mcnabb to come back and play week 5.

[Fresh Prince]

See if Eagles played like this last week we be going 3-0.

[Poetic Chaos]

Niners just gave the Vikes another serving of VD!!!!!

[BlackLantern]

the Giants have manhandled TB

[Fresh Prince]

Lol Kansas City thought they had the touchdown.

[Fresh Prince]

the Giants have manhandled TB

We will do the same after our week 4 bye week.

[Kane52630]

Sanchez is doing a wonderful job on throwing the ball

[-Arya-]

the Giants have manhandled TB
Yes sir :up:

[Fresh Prince]

Jeez Eagles could of not let Kansas City score that touchdown.

[BlackLantern]

come on Detroit...gimme at least one upset pick this week

[CELTICPRED]

Go Niners!

[Dr. Evil]

Derek Anderson replaces Brady Quinn....and throws 3 interceptions

[Fresh Prince]

Got San Diego over Miami. Dolphins lol starting 0-3.

Miami moving bakcwards instead of foward.

[The Game]

TD Pats, yes!!!!!!

[Fresh Prince]

Derek Anderson replaces Brady Quinn....and throws 3 interceptions

Lol Cleveland has no good QB's.

[Fresh Prince]

Damn Pats up 26-10. Lol that game turned into a blow out very quickly.

[Kane52630]

all my picks are starting to work now :D

[Fresh Prince]

Detroit might get its first victory in 2 seasons.

[BlackLantern]

TD Lions!!!!

[Fresh Prince]

Well BlackLantern looksl ike Giants will get leftovers of Kansas City next week. Mind aswell make Giants 4-0.

[Fresh Prince]

Detroit will beat Washington guess lol.

[CELTICPRED]

How many times do people yell at you each week to stop spamming the hell out of threads?




Packers finally got some turnovers going. Anxious to see what happens next week in Minneapolis.

[Franklin Richards]

Any word on Haynesworth?

BTW... Houston and Jax are having a game.


:cap: :cap: :cap:

[Immortalfire]

Ugh..pretty bad showing by Falcons today. But even New England isn't looking like they're all that.

Ah well, being 2-1 going into a bye ain't too bad.

[Darthphere]

Got San Diego over Miami. Dolphins lol starting 0-3.

Miami moving bakcwards instead of foward.

That's what happens when you overachieve one season and then get the most difficult schedule in the league the next.

[Dr. Evil]

What the hell was up with that commercial? 542-542? The hell?

[Darthphere]

Uh-oh, Redskins moving the ball.

[BlackLantern]

looks like old man Favre did it again...that's why I can't hate on the man...

[wiegeabo]

Hell of a catch to have the presence of mind to get his feet inbounds the way he did.

[Dr. Evil]

Lions win.

[CELTICPRED]

What the hell. Favre ended up driving them down and scoring a touchdown.

Ridiculous.

[BlackLantern]

I called it...Lions would have a win before week 5....not to mention my bias as I just don't like Jason Campbell

[Dr. Evil]

What the hell. Favre ended up driving them down and scoring a touchdown.

Ridiculous.

ESPN will be talking about that for the next week.

[Addendum]

I called it...Lions would have a win before week 5....not to mention my bias as I just don't like Jason Campbell

At least they can finish 1-15

[Go Web Go!]

Lions win.

Break out the champagne.

[Franklin Richards]

Haynesworth injured. Redskins lose to the winless Lions.


It's a good day to be a Cowboy fan.



:cap: :cap: :cap:

[Kane52630]

8-1 in the SHH Pickem :D

[Go Web Go!]

Haynesworth injured.



How's that big contract looking so far?

[Dr. Evil]

Zorn's seat is starting to really scorch.

[Fresh Prince]

ESPN should hype up Favre's game winning drive.

[Go Web Go!]

I wouldn't be surprised if they cut him loose by the end of the month.

[The Riddler]

geezus, niners should have won.

they simply didn't execute on their last offensive possession and defensive stand. eff the prevent defense.

i can't stand the favre ass kissing that will now ensue.

[BlackLantern]

I agree....Zorn needs to win the next game to keep his job

[Trainwreck2100]

ESPN will be talking about that for the next week.

That + Tebow Injury watch should leave enough time in Sportscenter for just the top 10. However, all the top ten will be plays with Favre and Tebow

[BlackLantern]

Seattles uniforms make them look like running highlighters

[TheComicbookKid]

Suck it in Lions. You probably won't feel this again for a while.

[Fresh Prince]

Okay Seattle unis suck. They look like the green lantern corp.