2009 NFL Thread

[Kane52630]

i cant pick who's going to win :(
i keep going back and forth

[enterthemadness]

Time to see some Farve magic. :awesome: I see a 250 yard game from him.

:wow: oh ****, he had a 301 yd passing game last week...at 39?

[omid17]

Sweet, Jaws and Gruden :up:

[That-Guy]

He did that before in the 60's.

LOL, yeah... but imagining him doing it now is just funny.

[Kane52630]

omg that NFL countdown was just filled with Farve
it had his face on the screen every 5 seconds

anyways Lets get it on!

[CELTICPRED]

Well at least we'll get to see how this game will go right away.

The o-line needs to execute to even have a chance.

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah, I think QBs have been babied a bit too much by the league. I understand that they must be protected, since they are the face of the teams they represented and they sell jerseys and tickets, but right now it's like a legal hit against them will result in penalties. If this keeps up eventually QBs won't need an offensive line, because a touch would result in a 15-yard penalty and a first down lol.

Yeah, Mike Wilbon agreed with Ray Lewis as well, and even though Rodney Harrison is friends with Tom, even he said Tom needs to take off the skirt. Tarkin, Bradshaw, and all the greats stood in the pocket and took a beating and then got back up and led their team to victories. These guys today are wrapped in swaddling. The hell's the point in even trying to pressure the QB if you're going to hand the other team a TD for almost hitting him?

Tom didn't even get hit and he immediately looked to the ref for a call. I mean damn, this is turning into flopping in th NBA.

"You know what? These guys are complete babies. How can you pay a defensive lineman, train him, turn him loose and then say 'Don't hit the quarterback unless he's a non-staple'.

If it's okay for JaMarcus Russell and Joe Flaaco to get hit without a call then it should be the same for Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. This rule is garbage but if you're going to push this junk, then make it universal and don't baby Tom Brady like he's bigger than the game.

If you're that worried about your knees, then make 'em play touch football or flag football. Better yet, tell them to go play golf and they won't have to worry about something getting close to their knees.

This is football.

It's a big story from the game for a reason. Those 2 stupid calls set up 2 touchdowns for the Patriots. Doesn't change the fact that that pass shouldn't have been dropped despite the coverage, but ad alls shouldn't decide games, especially when they're pre-determined bad cals.

[Dark Helmet]

LMAO wtf the Packers had a great start & then they fumble it lol

[That-Guy]

Damn, Jared Allen is a beast.

[BlackLantern]

what was that stat on Jared Allen...17 or 18 strips??

[That-Guy]

"Taunting" gets 15 yards? Seriously?

[Kane52630]

"Taunting" gets 15 yards? Seriously?

i know whats next

picking your nose gets you 20 yards?

[BlackLantern]

yea its an unsportsmanlike conduct...they started calling those hard last season.....that flag was warranted because he was stopping the player from getting up...thats usually when that will get called...or late hits/hits out of bounds

[That-Guy]

Oh, well. Either way... FAARRRRRVVVVE!!!! Great touchdown pass.

As much as I pick on the guy from time to time... I want Brett to win this one.

[Dark Helmet]

Now that was nice

[bunk]

Good game.

[That-Guy]

Yeah, this is going to be interesting.

[CELTICPRED]

Are you purposely spelling his name incorrectly?

[Cmill216]

"Most TD passes for one team before 1st TD pass against that team"

ESPN...seriously.....?

[CELTICPRED]

Superstats yo.

[Go Web Go!]

What number are we up to when it comes to seeing Mrs. Favre on screen?

[bunk]

Rodgers kind of looks like B.J. Novak, at least with the helmet on.

[rdh007]

Leber FTW!

[rdh007]

What number are we up to when it comes to seeing Mrs. Favre on screen?

Mrs. Favre > Mrs. Warner

[Dark Helmet]

Holy ****

[rdh007]

Interception!

In your face, Ryan the Intern! ;)

If the fates are with the good guys on this night, where will they be on a cool evening in Green Bay???

[bunk]

Omg, it's the first game in which Favre is playing against his old team for the first time and doesn't throw the first interception. Crazy stats in this game.

[El_Citrus]

"Most TD passes for one team before 1st TD pass against that team"

ESPN...seriously.....?


Did you know that Favre also holds the record for most TD passes in a single season for games that started at 4:00 pm EST or later in a dome when it's raining outside?

[Immortalfire]

"Most TD passes for one team before 1st TD pass against that team"

ESPN...seriously.....?

My god

[Venom'sDad]

"Most TD passes for one team before 1st TD pass against that team"

ESPN...seriously.....?

Why are you suprise.... it's ESPhavreN.

[Tanin]

Exciting game so far ^_^

[enterthemadness]

That Sears Farve tv spot was awesome. Nice to see Farve can poke fun at himself.

[The Riddler]

c'mon rodgers.

i'm a niners fan but i want rodgers and the pack to own favre so so much right now.

[Dark Helmet]

It will be hard for the next Superbowl to top this game

[The Riddler]

hahah peterson got absolutely owned.

[CELTICPRED]

Don't blame Rodgers. The offensive line is garbage.

As for Clay, bout time he made a play. rhymes.


I do like how the refs are completely ignoring the Vikings offensive line when calling penalties. This ********.

[El_Citrus]

Vintage Brett Favre! :lmao: Who let Michael Cole into the MNF booth?

[The Riddler]

wow is this game rigged or something?

pass interference...wow.

[CELTICPRED]

wow is this game rigged or something?

pass interference...wow.

I saw massive hands to the face on their earlier TD drive, and then a hold on Kampman. It's ****ing laughable.

[Dark Helmet]

I saw massive hands to the face on their earlier TD drive, and then a hold on Kampman. It's ****ing laughable.

I hope Green Bay wins just to piss that ref off. But this game has been great so far

[The Riddler]

wow, can the announcing team have a bigger hard-on for favre? it doesn't seem possible.

[Go Web Go!]

Vintage Brett Favre! :lmao: Who let Michael Cole into the MNF booth?

:hehe:

[Venom'sDad]

wow is this game rigged or something?

pass interference...wow.

I don't know if it rigged or not; but, it is skewed toward the Minnesota Favres. The announcers can attest to that.

[SurfDUI]

Yor still in this Aaron Rogers!! Great half.

Jared Allen is a monster.

[bunk]

wow, can the announcing team have a bigger hard-on for favre? it doesn't seem possible.

The sexual tension in the booth is creeping me out.

[That-Guy]

I swear, Favre could squat down and take a dump under center and this would be Jaworski's reaction:

"You can just feel the energy as he squeezes that last one out! Look at the way the crowd is just dumbfounded by the brilliance of Brett's bowel movement! Next week he'll be 40 years old and he's never had to drink prune juice or take Ex-Lax IN HIS LIFE!"

[Immortalfire]

:lmao:

[Dark Donnie]

Rodgers is playing a hell of a game....guys can't hold onto the ball.

[Cmill216]

Could Favre be playing any better? Good lord.

[Excel]

Rodgers is so much better than Favre.

[That-Guy]

:lmao:

:woot:

[Go Web Go!]

Hate on the guy if you want, but he's still a top 5 QB.

[CELTICPRED]

I quit watching. This damn offensive line is just utter garbage. A lot of that is Thompson's fault. Drafting late and taking all these little guys and trying to make them into mobile blockers.

Livid right now. :facepalm:

[Excel]

Gb gets zero pressure.

[Mister J]

Rodgers is a stud. If the offensive line and a receiver not named Donald Driver bothers to playblock worth a damn, GB can be pretty good.

Favre is playing great tonight, but I'm pretty close to watching the rest of the game on mute.

[Excel]

uhh thats not a fumble.

[vindrow]

Safety.

[The Riddler]

i feel bad for rodgers.

the packers receivers have dropped passes and the o-line has failed yet again.

[Dark Helmet]

What the hell happened to this game ? The first half was simply amazing but then the refs started to clearly call plays in Team Brett's favor

[FaT_tONle]

Safety.

You are better off snapping the ball over the punters head had the Pack been in fourth down there. Play the field position game and keep it a two possesion game. Field goal would end it, so either way, safety is the best play for them assuming they have no chance of converting the down.

Anyhow... kinda glad the Pack lost. Let the division winners run away with it let the second tier teams fall back into the middle of the pack. Hopefully Farve doesn't break down at the end of the year again.

[Go Web Go!]

Yeah, the refs are why the Packers are down by as much as they are.

[Marx]

The 'Brett Favre Appreciation Night' continues on ESPN's MNF. Did anyone just see the graphic they showed talking about the age of the oldest quarterback to win a post season game and a superbowl (already suggesting that he could go on to win the Superbowl)?

'No one plays with the passion of Brett Favre.'

'Brett Favre has been stunning.'

'I'm thrilled for Brett Favre to be back.'

'Brett Favre is my god.'

:barf:

[Mister J]

Tell me the Vikings aren't on MNF again for the rest of the season.

[NewYorkSpider]

Tell me the Vikings aren't on MNF again for the rest of the season.


Week 16 at Chicago.

[Marx]

Week 16 at Chicago.

:facepalm:

[Mister J]

At least there's time to brace.

[Cmill216]

I hate the Favre hype train just as much of the next guy, but the numbers don't lie:

24/30, 271 yards, 3 TDs

That's just sick.

[The Riddler]

geezus, rodgers gets no time at all.

[Dr. Evil]

The 'Brett Favre Appreciation Night' continues on ESPN's MNF. Did anyone just see the graphic they showed talking about the age of the oldest quarterback to win a post season game and a superbowl (already suggesting that he could go on to win the Superbowl)?

'No one plays with the passion of Brett Favre.'

'Brett Favre has been stunning.'

'I'm thrilled for Brett Favre to be back.'

'Brett Favre is my god.'

:barf:

They also discussed his greatness when he announced he was coming back. A whole day was probably dedicated to him. They would bump their coverage of the NBA, Baseball and College Football only to rename themselves ESPN Favre.

[Bunker]

This coverage needs moar Favre.

[Dr. Evil]

This coverage needs moar Favre.

Then they should have brought in Frank Caliendo as John Madden.

[Marx]

They also discussed his greatness when he announced he was coming back. A whole day was probably dedicated to him. They would bump their coverage of the NBA, Baseball and College Football only to rename themselves ESPN Favre.

When the rumors of Favre returning (yet again) started circulating...I cut back on my ESPN. When he announced his return...I stopped watching ESPN altogether for quite some time.

[NewYorkSpider]

Jared Allen has been an absolute monster tonight.

[The Apocalypse]

Jared Allen > Farve.

[Excel]

Geez, Rice has a vertical.

[The Riddler]

vikes got lucky.

[Dark Donnie]

Rodgers likely won't make it through the season if this keeps up...geez. The guy is a really talented QB but gets no time whatsoever.

[CELTICPRED]

Hopefully this bye week gives them some much needed adjustment time.

[KALEL114]

They sorely miss Clifton. They better hope he comes back strong after the bye.

[The Riddler]

rodgers on talent and ability alone is a top 5 qb in the league; maybe top 3. who can you argue is better than him right now besides manning and brady and maybe brees?

he throws the nicest spiral in the entire league, has good mobility and makes good decisions.

[FaT_tONle]

Rivers is carrying his team on his back with a patchwork line as well. Obviously Brees and Manning are going to be the favorites for MVP, but I'd give it to Rivers for best QB on a **** team. I need to see more from Rogers.

[The Riddler]

Rivers is carrying his team on his back with a patchwork line as well. Obviously Brees and Manning are going to be the favorites for MVP, but I'd give it to Rivers for best QB on a **** team. I need to see more from Rogers.

rivers is good but mvp...? no way.

manning will win mvp, easily if things keep up as they are. brees hasn't put up numbers the last 2 weeks so he's not really in it right now, either.

[Dr. Evil]

Which Manning? Remember there are two of them now.

[KALEL114]

They are talking about the elite one, Peyton.

[The Riddler]

Which Manning? Remember there are two of them now.

peyton, but eli really has had a great year thus far as well. he's actually an early candidate as well.

[Holiday]

Rivers is becoming an elite quarterback in the NFL. He goes out there with a poor offensive line and a struggling defense every week and puts enough points on the board to keep them in games. He did it last year (where he should have been the quarterback named MVP, not Peyton) and so far he's doing it again this year. San Diego would be lost without him.

[That-Guy]

I'm not sure that I'd put Rodgers up there with the elite yet. He's talented but he also took a bit too long to throw and you can't always blame that on the O-Line. As a Steelers fan, I've seen my QB get sacked quite a few times too... sometimes it's the O-Line's fault and sometimes it's his. I think that, if Rodgers wants to play that sort of "never throw the ball away" style that guys like Roethlisberger play, he has to work on his mobility and his awareness of what's going on around him. Multiple guys got the drop on him before he even knew what was happening.

[The Riddler]

I'm not sure that I'd put Rodgers up there with the elite yet. He's talented but he also took a bit too long to throw and you can't always blame that on the O-Line. As a Steelers fan, I've seen my QB get sacked quite a few times too... sometimes it's the O-Line's fault and sometimes it's his. I think that, if Rodgers wants to play that sort of "never throw the ball away" style that guys like Roethlisberger play, he has to work on his mobility and his awareness of what's going on around him. Multiple guys got the drop on him before he even knew what was happening.

i think his mobility is fine; in fact it's better than fine. he's far more mobile than say a big ben. his awareness definitely needs work on though. i think that will come with more experience.

he needs to make adjustments and get the ball out quicker but the o-line is terrible. he was blind sided a few times and a lot of those times you can't expect him to see it coming. if rodgers had the time favre had tonight he's have thrown for 400 yards and at least 3 td's. he has one of the strongest and most accurate arms in the league and should be a top 3 qb in the very near future.

[enterthemadness]

They also discussed his greatness when he announced he was coming back. A whole day was probably dedicated to him. They would bump their coverage of the NBA, Baseball and College Football only to rename themselves ESPN Favre.

Brett Farve should retire at the end of the season, just so he can be lead anchor on Sportscenter AND the NFL show on ESPN. Also, he can offer BBQ tips every Monday show. And blah blah blah blah, Farve, blah, Farve.

:awesome:

[BillyZaned]

Well, The Pack lost that game, the Vikings didn't win it...

The Penalties are getting out of hand...
They have the worst O-Line in the league, even that first drive was going great untill again, the coverage broke down and Rodgers got sandwiched

It should have been 21-7 at halftime, or 14-0

There defense shut down Peterson, and Mathews had that awesome play... but, Favre did exploit the weeknesses of the 3-4.... feels awful having him beat us...

Also, McCarthy can not call a goalline play to save his life... if it's either 1st and goal.... or 1st and 10 at the 1 yard line... he doesn't know what to call...

[Ring Deacon]

Yeah, I really think that Troy will re-invigorate this defense. For some reason, I just get the picture that he's the "missing-link" that is keeping them from continuing their dominance into the end of the game. Could be his leadership, could be his uncanny ability to intercept the ball like... every time it's needed to seal the game. I don't know, but I'm hoping he really is the key.

Mike Wallace is slowly becoming my favorite rookie on the face of the planet. Just when I thought, "Oh ****, now we gotta deal with Sweed and his butterfingers," Wallace turns out to be a freakin' stud. The way the O-Line and Mendenhall played last night too... I'm effin' excited for Troy to return, and to see how dominant the Steelers can really get.

The defense is sorely missing Troy. I know in most cases you can noy say that one man would make that much of a change in what has been called the best defense in he NLF. But in Troy's case he makes key plays when needed, and that is where the Steelers have been failing this year. The offense has ben top notch in every game, but it has been missed plays on defense that have caused the two loses. I am just glad that the coaches let Ben make some plays this week. In a bind I would always want Ben to be my QB in the last two minutes of the game. The man can make things happen.

[Immortalfire]

Rodgers and the Pack O-line both looked pretty pathetic last night.

[scifiwolf]

I don't come into this thread nearly as often as I'd like, but I think I'll chime in this morning. Even though I'm a loyal fan of Rivers', I'd have to say Peyton is THE MVP in the league right now. I've only had an opportunity to really watch him in the Miami game, but I know he's performing like that on a consistent basis.

I think Philip has the potential to be the best, but his team is seriously weighing him down. It seems that, week after week, year after year, he's the one driving the team. Well, at least the offense. The defense is just flaccid. The offense ranks 9th in the NFL in points scored (101 pts), and the defense ranks 25th in points allowed (102 pts). The only reason they have the points they do is Rivers. Look at their rushing stats vs passing. 2nd LEAST productive team with the rush (215 yds) and 2nd MOST productive team with the pass (1245 yds). No defense, no rushing game = Philip Rivers is a one-man team with a 2-2 record. If the team goes anywhere in the post season, it'll be because of P Riv.

Finally, I'll get into Aaron Rodgers. From what I've seen, I'd have to agree with the statements made already. At this point, he really needs an O-line to bring it all together. Right now, statistically, Green Bay seems to be a middle-of-the-road team. I think getting Rodgers a bit more time in the pocket is that missing piece of the puzzle.

[Excel]

Rodgers looked pretty pathetic last night.

:hehe:

[Dark Donnie]

Rodgers had a QB Rating of 110.6 last night.

[FaT_tONle]

Does rating account for lost fumbles and safeties? I didn't watch most of the game but sometimes it's misleading.

[enterthemadness]

Does rating account for lost fumbles and safeties? I didn't watch most of the game but sometimes it's misleading.

He has close to 400 yds passing according to Yahoo Fantasy. 2TD's, too.

But a INT, safety, 8 sacks, and fumble lost.

[Dark Donnie]

Does rating account for lost fumbles and safeties? I didn't watch most of the game but sometimes it's misleading.
Interceptions are taken into account.
He has close to 400 yds passing according to Yahoo Fantasy. 2TD's, too.

But a INT, safety, 8 sacks, and fumble lost.

Being sacked 8 times isn't all his fault. Sure he held onto the ball a couple of times a little long, but that O Line was getting killed by Allen.

He was also about a 70 comp. % last night

[That-Guy]

...and as if things couldn't get any worse for the St. Louis Rams, apparently asshat Rush Limbaugh is interested in purchasing the team.

I have no ill feelings one way or the other toward the Rams... at most, I tend to feel sorry for their fans. I'd have to say though that if that despicable, hate-mongering bastard acquires the franchise, I for one would hope the team bottoms out worse than it ever has.

[BillyZaned]

Rodgers and the Pack O-line both looked pretty pathetic last night.


how did Rodgers? Throwing 2 touchdowns and nearly 400 yards? He was running for his life, and made some bad decissions.... but pathetic isn't hte word to describe that

[Raiden]

...and as if things couldn't get any worse for the St. Louis Rams, apparently asshat Rush Limbaugh is interested in purchasing the team.

I have no ill feelings one way or the other toward the Rams... at most, I tend to feel sorry for their fans. I'd have to say though that if that despicable, hate-mongering bastard acquires the franchise, I for one would hope the team bottoms out worse than it ever has.

Apparently, Rush and that Blues owner want to keep the team in St. Louis, and personally this just makes me hate the Rams even more (after they bailed on L.A. and move to St. Louis a decade ago). I really want to have a NFL team in L.A. but Rams is not one of the teams I want. I hope they will suck forever.

Btw, it was a magnificent performance by Favre last night, although having a stellar O-Line and terrific defense certainly helped (even though Petersen didn't do much). Hate all you want on Favre, but you can't deny that he still has game. However, Rodgers (despite the loss) did pretty well himself as well, and not all of the 8 sacks were his fault. However, Packers now have bigger issues to deal with, and I don't see them winning the NFC North.

[BlackLantern]

LA has had 2 chances to make the NFL a success...they failed...no more chances

[Immortalfire]

Did you guys know that Brett Favre is going to be FORTY this week? omg :eek: [/Jaws]

[Raiden]

LA has had 2 chances to make the NFL a success...they failed...no more chances

New York lost 2 baseball teams (Giants and Dodgers) but they gain another one anyway (Mets). And I'm not aware of any written rules about a city having only 2 chances for a NFL team. The stadium that they will construct in the City of Industry in L.A. have cleared the major hurdles of lawsuit (there is another one pending though), and from what I've heard there are several teams who may be interested to move over here for a new stadium (which they can't get in their own city). NFL wanted to have a NFL team in the nation's #2 market, and they have spent $4 million to conduct their own research on making this happen. I have a feeling that L.A. will eventually get another team.

[Addendum]

The NFL has done well without a team in LA

[Raiden]

The NFL has done well without a team in LA

And they will do even better if they do have a team in L.A. You don't think they'll make more money here than in Jacksonville? There's a reason why NFL spent $4 million of its own money to see if it could work.

[SurfDUI]

Please!

Aaron Rogers was a man last night, the Favre's only won by a score. That dingis that dropped the 4th down in the endzone cost them big. I hate that I lost the pick, and #4 is the man, but Rogers was a general out there with lames for protection.

Changing defensive scemes and assignemnts in the offseason sank their asses bad. Gdamn what happend to 'a man called A.J. Hawk'?!

A whole lot of frustration went on.

Propers to the MN D tho, Jared Allen just secured some endorsments. He looked like Ray Lewis minus the tan.

[Addendum]

And they will do even better if they do have a team in L.A. You don't think they'll make more money here than in Jacksonville? There's a reason why NFL spent $4 million of its own money to see if it could work.

Because Al Michaels has whined about it

[Erzengel]

Interesting stat last night. Congrats to Brett Favre for being the only quarterback to beat every team in the NFL.

[Raiden]

Because Al Michaels has whined about it

Al Michaels doesn't work for NFL, only NBC. The bottom line is, the NFL had to impose a blackout on several NFL cities due to low attendance, and even Buffalo Bills play games over at Toronto because they are not generating enough funds there. Seems to me that NFL isn't doing as well as some people are led to believe. And if NFL can make more money here (and they will), then why won't they?

[Raiden]

Please!

Aaron Rogers was a man last night, the Favre's only won by a score. That dingis that dropped the 4th down in the endzone cost them big. I hate that I lost the pick, and #4 is the man, but Rogers was a general out there with lames for protection.

Changing defensive scemes and assignemnts in the offseason sank their asses bad. Gdamn what happend to 'a man called A.J. Hawk'?!

A whole lot of frustration went on.

Propers to the MN D tho, Jared Allen just secured some endorsments. He looked like Ray Lewis minus the tan.

I don't think the game is as close as the score would indict, though. And yes, I did watch the game last night.

[Addendum]

Al Michaels doesn't work for NFL, only NBC. The bottom line is, the NFL had to impose a blackout on several NFL cities due to low attendance, and even Buffalo Bills play games over at Toronto because they are not generating enough funds there. Seems to me that NFL isn't doing as well as some people are led to believe. And if NFL can make more money here (and they will), then why won't they?

Well, since there is something going on called a pisspoor economy, it's not surprising that :wow: attendance may be down in some cities.

Plus, not that many people want to come out to support lousy teams

[StorminNorman]

And lets not forget...

The teams that have a hard time selling out games...tend to be bad ones.

A bad LA team is going to have the same problems a bad Jacksonville team has in selling tickets. In fact, it may be harder. LA actually has other things to do, and not just coke.

[Erzengel]

Those stupid black outs are rules from a different time. With the economy the way it is now, initiating a blackout isn't going to make fans pay money they don't have to go to the stadium and watch their team. :huh:

[Addendum]

And lets not forget...

The teams that have a hard time selling out games...tend to be bad ones.

A bad LA team is going to have the same problems a bad Jacksonville team has in selling tickets. In fact, it may be harder. LA actually has other things to do, and not just coke.

Exactly. If I lived in St. Louis and wasn't a Bears fan, I'd find other things to do instead of going to see the Rams play. Same thing if I lived in Kansas City.

[StorminNorman]

I agree, down with the blackout.

If the NFL is complaining about attendance, they should look at their game day atmosphere and not trying to utilize extortion.

Jerry Jones was absolutely brilliant in his designing of Jerry World, it's the perfect NFL stadium. It provides a stadium atmosphere that you simply cannot get at your house. The problem is most NFL games are not like this.

The NFL wants people to go to their games? Cut down on TV time outs, do more fan service and stop penalizing entertainers for entertaining.

[SurfDUI]

I don't think the game is as close as the score would indict, though. And yes, I did watch the game last night.

...well probably notsomuch, but GB tried to play from behind very solid. The issues w/ the line were there forevery body to see.

My point was jus there are 'pathetic' teams, QB's and people, just not the dude taking the snap in a loss last night

[Addendum]

Because nothing screams excitement like an endzone dance. Oh wait, there's a game going that's far more interesting

[Immortalfire]

I don't get this "entertainer" logic of Norman's. The NFL isn't a song and dance revue.

[StorminNorman]

No, it's a game.

Games are about entertainment, sport, spirit, energy and emotions. Players should be able to celebrate when they do something right.

We watch sports to be entertained - let players do that. Both the players and the fans benefit.

[StorminNorman]

Because nothing screams excitement like an endzone dance. Oh wait, there's a game going that's far more interesting

No there isn't.

[Addendum]

A rookie celebrating their first touchdown in the league? That's fine.

A veteran celebrating yet another touchdown? Move the **** on.

[BillyZaned]

I don't get this "entertainer" logic of Norman's. The NFL isn't a song and dance revue.

he's an idiot...... yeah, they will get more people to watch if TO can sign every ball with a sharpie after he scores....

[StorminNorman]

A rookie celebrating their first touchdown in the league? That's fine.

A veteran celebrating yet another touchdown? Move the **** on.

Why should they? I mean touchdowns are special for anybody. Most players aren't stars, they get 4 or 5 of them a season. They devote their entire year, persevere through training camp and injuries and competition to score points. Penalizing for being excited is asinine.

[StorminNorman]

he's an idiot...... yeah, they will get more people to watch if TO can sign every ball with a sharpie after he scores....

During the Chad Johnson/Terrel Owens celebration competition, you didn't get excited at all looking to see what one would do next? If you didn't get to experience that enjoyment, I pity you.

[Addendum]

If you want to be entertained by a football player flopping around like an idiot after they score a touchdown, even though they've scored touchdowns since pee-wee league, fine.

I worked in a group home with mentally retarded people and they were entertained by that and wheel of fortune.

[Raiden]

And lets not forget...

The teams that have a hard time selling out games...tend to be bad ones.

A bad LA team is going to have the same problems a bad Jacksonville team has in selling tickets. In fact, it may be harder. LA actually has other things to do, and not just coke.

Jags are 2-2, same record as the Packers and certainly not that bad a team. But they still don't sell out their tickets as well as NFL would like.

[BillyZaned]

During the Chad Johnson/Terrel Owens celebration competition, you didn't get excited at all looking to see what one would do next? If you didn't get to experience that enjoyment, I pity you.


no, not at all... because I'm there to watch talented young men play a game at the highest level....

not to watch two jabronies try to upstage one another.... if they want to do that, tell them to join the circus... not to play a game with the storied history of football

[StorminNorman]

Jags are 2-2, same record as the Packers and certainly not that bad a team. But they still don't sell out their tickets as well as NFL would like.

They sell tickets when they win. They are 2-2 now, we shall see where they go from here.

no, not at all... because I'm there to watch talented young men play a game at the highest level....

not to watch two jabronies try to upstage one another.... if they want to do that, tell them to join the circus... not to play a game with the storied history of football

Allowing talented young men to have fun with the game they play doesn't mean you can't watch them play a game at the highest level. The two aren't incompatible - by any means.

Also, the storied history of football is full of flamboyant players. It's part of what makes football so great.

[BillyZaned]

I think StorminNorman is the love child of Jerry Jones and Rush Limbaugh... i mean, his nonsense has to be some shortcoming he was born with....

[BillyZaned]

Also, the storied history of football is full of flamboyant players. It's part of what makes football so great.

Yeah, Becuase Vince Lambardi, and Bart Starr were falmboyant .... they always put themselves in the spotlight and beleived they were bigger then the game...

seriously man... just stop... just stop...

[StorminNorman]

I think StorminNorman is the love child of Jerry Jones and Rush Limbaugh... i mean, his nonsense has to be some shortcoming he was born with....

A shortcoming? Being absolutely correct is rarely a shortcoming. The fact is nothing is gained by penalizing people that celebrate and nothing is lost when they do.

[BillyZaned]

They sell tickets when they win. They are 2-2 now, we shall see where they go from here.



.

What about the Marlins.... World Series winning Marlins... still can't sell out a game... i Know it's the MLB... but their stadium attendence is awful.....

the blackout rule, is as outdated as the Republican Party, and should just go away... both of them

[BillyZaned]

A shortcoming? Being absolutely correct is rarely a shortcoming. The fact is nothing is gained by penalizing people that celebrate and nothing is lost when they do.

okay their Forest... keep fighting the good fight....

[Immortalfire]

Alright, that's enough of this. Just agree to disagree or something.

Moving on.

[Raiden]

They sell tickets when they win. They are 2-2 now, we shall see where they go from here.



Yeah, we'll see. But I find it strange that everyone likes to assume that L.A. would only support a winning team, but not all of our pro teams win championships but they still have respectible attendance. Besides, other cities like St. Louis who have awful teams (like Rams) don't really sell out their games either, and like L.A. they have other teams they can look forward to (such as the Cardinals). Does that mean they shouldn't have a NFL team?

[Dr. Evil]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4535583

Rush is only doing this so that he can appeal to the African American demo, for which is non-existent in both the Republican Party (except Michael Steele) and among his listeners.

[StorminNorman]

Yeah, we'll see. But I find it strange that everyone likes to assume that L.A. would only support a winning team, but not all of our pro teams win championships but they still have respectible attendance. Besides, other cities like St. Louis who have awful teams (like Rams) don't really sell out their games either, and like L.A. they have other teams they can look forward to (such as the Cardinals). Does that mean they shouldn't have a NFL team either?

St. Louis, as a city, is far less entertaining than L.A. though. It's a different sort of atmosphere. L.A., as a city, will never be defined by their sports representation. Places like St. Louis and Jacksonville, for the most part, are.

Also, the fact L.A. will not support a losing team is only brought up when people use the low attendance of currently bad/mediocre teams as a reason to bring them over to L.A.

[StorminNorman]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4535583

Rush is only doing this so that he can appeal to the African American demo, for which is non-existent in both the Republican Party (except Michael Steele) and among his listeners.

That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever head. Rush Limbaugh doesn't care about appealing to any demographic besides his own and this has nothing to do with the Republican Party.

Rush Limbaugh is "only doing this" because he loves football and what sports fan doesn't want to buy a professional sports team? He just happens to have the cash to do it.

[BillyZaned]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4535583

Rush is only doing this so that he can appeal to the African American demo, for which is non-existent in both the Republican Party (except Michael Steele) and among his listeners.


no way... he has shown the world, he hates Black people... he does... he's a racist...

he's also dumb, and don't give me crap about his wide listener base.... most listen to him because he is a train wreck,.. and the people who beleive what he says, probably still beleive in Santa...

In Rush's mind, he probably thinks him owning the team, will start a cleansing of the league... he probably thinks he can get rid of every player who isn't White...

[StorminNorman]

Sorry Doc, ^ has now become the most ridiculous thing I have heard all day.

[Immortalfire]

Oh lordy :lmao:

[Dr. Evil]

Someone said this on ESPN.COM:

rush would field the first all white team since the 50s.

I don't think he's racist, I just think he's outspoken, sometimes a bit too outspoken.

Back when the Cards were in St. Louis, were they by any chance called The Football Cardinals?

[SurfDUI]

That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever head. Rush Limbaugh doesn't care about appealing to any demographic besides his own and this has nothing to do with the Republican Party.

Rush Limbaugh is "only doing this" because he loves football and what sports fan doesn't want to buy a professional sports team? He just happens to have the cash to do it.



I don't know or care if Rush 'loves' the NFL product. One who would, I would think if given the opportunity to be a Live analyst on a natl network, would choose not to air his Jew/Black conspiracies the first chance he got.

If that's correct, what brotha would shake his hand when he visits the facility,

[StorminNorman]

I don't know or care if Rush 'loves' the NFL product. One who would, I would think if given the opportunity to be a Live analyst on a natl network, would choose not to air his Jew/Black conspiracies the first chance he got.

If that's correct, what brotha would shake his hand when he visits the facility,

Rush Limbaugh is hardly the only man in the world that thinks Donovan McNabb is an overrated QB.

[Dr. Evil]

The NFL isn't going to let minority owner Stan Kroenke own the Rams, unless he sells of the Nuggets and Avalanche, and he won't do that. And I also don't think Broncos Owner Pat Bowlen is going to be okay with a rival NFL owner in the same city.

[Raiden]

St. Louis, as a city, is far less entertaining than L.A. though. It's a different sort of atmosphere. L.A., as a city, will never be defined by their sports representation. Places like St. Louis and Jacksonville, for the most part, are.

Also, the fact L.A. will not support a losing team is only brought up when people use the low attendance of currently bad/mediocre teams as a reason to bring them over to L.A.

L.A. may have alot more things to do than other cities such as St. Louis and Jacksonville, but the argument that it's not a sports town is simply untrue, and one that sports fans like to use to paint L.A. sports fans as inferior to other cities' fans. If L.A. doesn't support its teams, then we won't have 2 MLB teams, 2 NBA teams, 1 NHL team, and even 1 MLS team. And L.A. had supported 2 NFL teams until their respective eccentric owners were hell-bent on moving their teams out of L.A.

[Dr. Evil]

The problem with Los Angeles is that I don't see the proposed football stadium in the City of Industry ever getting off the ground. If established teams like the Chargers, 49ers and Raiders are having trouble finding sites for new venues (although the Raiders have made zero indication that they want a new stadium), then I don't think the proposed stadium will ever happen.

[Raiden]

The problem with Los Angeles is that I don't see the proposed football stadium in the City of Industry ever getting off the ground. If established teams like the Chargers, 49ers and Raiders are having trouble finding sites for new venues (although the Raiders have made zero indication that they want a new stadium), then I don't think the proposed stadium will ever happen.

I listen to ESPN radio 710 AM, and Mason & Ireland show had a rep from Majestic (the company that is going to build the stadium), and he said that with the biggest lawsuit out of the way, the construction is all but assured of moving forward, but the last thing they need is an agreement with an existing NFL team who wants to move to L.A. for the new stadium. He named 7 teams who might be interested for relocation (keep in mind that they have made contacts with all those teams and NFL as well), and Raiders is actually on that list. I'm not saying that it's 100%, but I'd say the chance of it is very good, mainly because L.A. now has a site, with construction funded privately and will not take any money from the public fund, and most importantly NFL WANTS to have a team in L.A. That's why as a L.A. football fan, I'm very hopeful that it will come true in the near future.

[Dr. Evil]

I listen to ESPN radio 710 AM, and Mason & Ireland show had a rep from Majestic (the company that is going to build the stadium on), and he said that with the biggest lawsuit out of the way, the construction is all but assured of moving forward, but the last thing they need is an agreement with an existing NFL team who wants to move to L.A. for the new stadium. He named 7 teams who might be interested for relocation (keep in mind that they have made contacts with all those teams and NFL as well), and Raiders is actually on that list. I'm not saying that it's 100%, but I'd say the chance of it is very good, mainly because L.A. now has a site, with construction funded privately and will not take any money from the public fund, and most importantly NFL WANTS to have a team in L.A. That's why as a L.A. football fan, I'm very hopeful that it will come true in the near future.

Well, that's interesting. Any chance that the Chargers and Niners are on the list?

[Raiden]

Well, that's interesting. Any chance that the Chargers and Niners are on the list?

I think so. It's been a few weeks since I heard that interview, but I think the 7 teams he mentioned were: Jags, Bills, Raiders, 49ers, Chargers, Rams (it was before this proposed sale from Rush), and I can't recall that last team.

[SurfDUI]

Rush Limbaugh is hardly the only man in the world that thinks Donovan McNabb is an overrated QB.

If that were his only point, then that just makes him an uninformed football fan. I'm black and can critique black folks play on the field. Eagles fans have a long rich history of doing jack squat season aftere season from Vermil's coaching till McNabb showed up
But McNabb was his backhanded target.

His point was that 1-the media as a whole is run by Jews and within that heiarchy, a practice is to showcase Black figures in sport regaedless of their 'rated' talant.

Buy that same logic Fox Sports has an agenda to promot white QB's because they have the NFc games. I guess.

[Addendum]

A shortcoming? Being absolutely correct is rarely a shortcoming. The fact is nothing is gained by penalizing people that celebrate and nothing is lost when they do.
And in the broader scope of the game, it's a pebble that fails to start an avalanche.

[omid17]

Man Raiders are all ****ed up

Raiders RB McFadden to have knee surgery (AP) (http://m.www.yahoo.com/_ylt=Aq9usv1i1NlzwoBsgGzvdribvZx4/SIG=12lp95p83/**http%3A//sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news%3Fslug=ap-raiders-offense%26prov=ap%26type=lgns)

Cable’s potential legal issues a concern


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cablepolice100409&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[Raiden]

Man Raiders are all ****ed up

I'm beginning to think that Raiders may be a 1-win team this season, but thanks to Al Davis it doesn't matter how high their draft pick is anyway, since he'll get someone who will suck like JaMarcus Russell.

[omid17]

I'm beginning to think that Raiders may be a 1-win team this season, but thanks to Al Davis it doesn't matter how high their draft pick is anyway, since he'll get someone who will suck like JaMarcus Russell.yup

[Immortalfire]

I'm beginning to think that Raiders may be a 1-win team this season, but thanks to Al Davis it doesn't matter how high their draft pick is anyway, since he'll get someone who will suck like JaMarcus Russell.

Yeah, they'll be in a great draft position..and foul it up. Again.

(in 2009 Draft)
Mel: Yeah, the Raiders will take Crabtree here. No doubt about it.
Goodell: With the 7th pick, the Oakland Raiders select...Darrius Heyward-Bey.
Mel: Wtf?

[omid17]

Yeah, they'll be in a great draft position..and foul it up. Again.

(in 2009 Draft)
Mel: Yeah, the Raiders will take Crabtree here. No doubt about it.
Goodell: With the 7th pick, the Oakland Raiders select...Darrius Heyward-Bey.
Mel: Wtf?:lmao:

[Darthphere]

The Raiders would get the #1 pick and probably pick Greg Paulus or something.

[Immortalfire]

I recall reading a year or so back, Al Davis said he won't retire until he wins 2 more Super Bowls..or dies.

He'd better go ahead and make his reservation at the local funeral home.

[Addendum]

Hey, Kiper is a genius. He said that Ryan Leaf had an attitude that would be an asset to the NFL...wait...He said the next year that Akili Smith would be a great success in the league...wait...He predicted an 0-16 season for the Patriots in 2001...he'll be the only one waiting for Mike Williams to be in the Hall of Fame.

[Darthphere]

Mel Kiper needs to take the stick out of his ass. I mean, he doesn't even hide the fact that he hates Todd McShay for essentially being the new him.

[Dark Donnie]

Kiper stinks anymore. Mike Mayock is much better IMO.

[StorminNorman]

And in the broader scope of the game, it's a pebble that fails to start an avalanche.

So we shouldn't discuss small details? K.

Yeah, they'll be in a great draft position..and foul it up. Again.

(in 2009 Draft)
Mel: Yeah, the Raiders will take Crabtree here. No doubt about it.
Goodell: With the 7th pick, the Oakland Raiders select...Darrius Heyward-Bey.
Mel: Wtf?

DHB was the proper pick for Oakland (as I had listed for months in my mock draft ;))

Hey, Kiper is a genius. He said that Ryan Leaf had an attitude that would be an asset to the NFL...wait...He said the next year that Akili Smith would be a great success in the league...wait...He predicted an 0-16 season for the Patriots in 2001...he'll be the only one waiting for Mike Williams to be in the Hall of Fame.

Kiper is great at what he does, but he is not perfect.

[Raiden]

I recall reading a year or so back, Al Davis said he won't retire until he wins 2 more Super Bowls..or dies.

He'd better go ahead and make his reservation at the local funeral home.

I wish he'd be in a real-life Fast Forward event (like that new ABC drama), and see that Raiders have no chance of winning a Super Bowl in the future. Maybe he'd jump off a balcony or something and spare the team from his decision-making.

[Immortalfire]

All this football talk on the Hype has got me thinking...Marvel's next movie project should be SuperPro. Awesome?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/immortalfire/superpro.jpg

Right.

[Raiden]

^ SuperPro is such a lame superhero name.

[Immortalfire]

SuperPro got mentioned in a conversation not long ago for some reason, and a friend thought it was a joke. I told him that it sadly wasn't, and looked it up online to show him.

I thought he was going to collapse and die from laughter. :lmao:

This commentary exposes it for the hilarity that it is... http://www.goingfaster.com/spo/dumbestcomicever.htm

[Addendum]

So we shouldn't discuss small details? K.


If you want to whine about a minor thing, go right ahead. But it's not like there will be an increase in ticket sales if the penalty is removed.

[SurfDUI]

I like Keiper, he's the bees knees. His job is to predict NFL sucesses, nobody is good @ that.
Hell, I thought Akelli Smith would be a sucess.

I like McShay too, he's more grounded. They clearly dislike each other, which is great entertainment for us in the off season with their bickering.

Some people on the SHH! NFL Thread claimed the Texans would win the South...:awesome:

[That-Guy]

Yeah, they'll be in a great draft position..and foul it up. Again.

(in 2009 Draft)
Mel: Yeah, the Raiders will take Crabtree here. No doubt about it.
Goodell: With the 7th pick, the Oakland Raiders select...Darrius Heyward-Bey.
Mel: Wtf?

Yeah, no kidding. I remember how shocked Crabtree looked when that happened. I bet he's not feeling too bad now though, since the 49ers are playing well and some analysts are predicting that they could make the playoffs. He must feel pretty good to know that the better team selected him, even if it was further down on the draft board.

Wait a minute... :woot:

[omid17]

49ers, Michael Crabtree gaining momentum for a deal? (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/10/ben-roethlisberger-steelers-vie-for-title-of-most-dominant-team-in-sports-on-wwe-appearance/1)


One day after ESPN reported that Michael Crabtree was heading back to San Francisco to talk with the 49ers (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/10/espn-michael-crabtree-going-to-san-francisco-to-reopen-contract-talks-with-49ers/1), there's a sign the team may be open to discussing a contract again with its holdout wide receiver.
PFT reports (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/06/niners-crabtree-meeting-today/) that 49ers officials will meet with Crabtree and agent Eugene Parker today.
Crabtree, the 10th overall pick, is the only first-round selection yet to sign a deal. His absence hasn't slowed the 49ers' 3-1 start. And he has come under scrutiny from many in the NFL.
Hall of Famer Jim Brown scolded him last week. "Get your butt in camp (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/10/jim-brown-to-49ers-holdout-michael-crabtree-get-your-butt-in-camp/1)," Brown said in an appearance on Sirius XM satellite radio.
Crabtree must sign by Nov. 17 to be eligible to play this season. 49ers coach Mike Singletary reiterated on Monday that he will welcome Crabtree if the receiver shows up.
"Any guy that can play and help us win, I would never say, 'No, we don't need him,' " Singletary said. "We need all the good football players we can get." -- Sean Leahy

[Immortalfire]

OMG...someone on eBay has all 12 issues of SuperPro, with the limited edition action figure for sale. I wonder if I ought to get em?

[RAMORE]

Wow that went 12 issues get it!!

[BlackLantern]

OMG...someone on eBay has all 12 issues of SuperPro, with the limited edition action figure for sale. I wonder if I ought to get em?

makes for a funny conversation piece....but i wouldn't pay a lot for it

[Immortalfire]

They want $24 for all of it.

[BlackLantern]

I wouldn't pay any more than $20

[Immortalfire]

Well, you send me $20 and I'll cover the extra $4

[The Game]

I'm amazed that Aaron Rodgers only has two turnovers this season considering how rubbish his O-line is.

[omid17]

Favre’s matchup with Packers draws record audience

BRISTOL, Conn. (AP)—Brett Favre’s (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/1025/;_ylt=AmpH8E4SIHDtNEHHmSzXyeMdsLYF) matchup with his former team has attracted the largest cable television audience ever.
His Minnesota Vikings (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/min/;_ylt=AjpWRi80Is.qlFgL4h3by8sdsLYF)’ 30-23 win over the Green Bay Packers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/gnb/;_ylt=AiuEcgKbhoKUZxjEzdo.gb4dsLYF) on ESPN’s “Monday Night Football” was watched by more than 21.8 million people. The previous record was more than 18.6 million viewers for last year’s Monday night game between the Philadelphia Eagles (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/phi/;_ylt=Ao4L6a9UvfgRIjhbTtGnkeQdsLYF) and Dallas Cowboys (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/dal/;_ylt=Av_Riu4MtZlg3_hAWeuKlIUdsLYF).

ESPN also said Tuesday that the game drew the highest rating in the network’s 30-year history. The 15.3 rating beat the 14.4 for a Bears-Vikings game on Dec. 6, 1987, during ESPN’s first season of televising NFL games.

[BlackLantern]

not surprised by that at all

[Addendum]

I'm proud to not have been one of the 21.8 million

[Excel]

Favre’s matchup with Packers draws record audience

When the 9-1 Patriots upset the (possibly) 10-0 New Orleans Saints on MNF in November, that record will fall.

[omid17]

When the 9-1 Patriots upset the (possibly) 10-0 New Orleans Saints on MNF in November, that record will fall.:up:

[BlackLantern]

eh probably not...a good majority of the country has gone back to not giving a **** about the Saints....Pats will lose at least one more game before that MNF game comes around

[Dark Donnie]

eh probably not...a good majority of the country has gone back to not giving a **** about the Saints....Pats will lose at least one more game before that MNF game comes around

Agreed

[bunk]

They need to show some consistency first. If they continue to play like they did in the last game, sure. No reason to assume they will though.

[Excel]

Pats will lose at least one more game before that MNF game comes around

Nope. They soundly beat 2 would be Super Bowl contenders and thats with Tom still out of sync with Randy (whose playing an absurdly high level at the moment). The defense looks absurd. Brandon Merriweather has been playing like an all pro; a Sean Taylor clone who is all over the field like a missile. If he keeps this up he will get defensive player of the year consideration as so far, the Patriots secondary has been the best in the NFL bar none. No wr's are doing **** on it. Gary Guyton and Leigh Bodden would be pro bowlers as well. And Mayo isnt even playing.

If the defense stays healthy and Brady & Moss get it going again, which they undoubtedly will...the Patriots are borderline unbeatable. Too balanced and too talented an offense. They also have the luxury of having all of their tough games up front.

[Dark Donnie]

I don't think they soundly beat any SB teams. They won that Baltimore game by some gimmick penalty calls that sustained drives. Not to mention Clayton dropping a go ahead TD at the end. They've looked ok this year, not great.

[NewYorkSpider]

Tom Brady has a 1-5 career record against the Broncos. They're going on the road against one of the best ranked defense in the league. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see them lose this weekend.

[Dr. Evil]

:hehe: at the latest Favre joke from Conan.

[Excel]

I wouldnt be surprised either, but i dont see it. Weve struggled in the redzone becuase Brady ****s around throws it Galloway or Aiken instead of just giving Randy a jump balls. Last weeks td to Moss was the opening of the flood gates. "Brady to Moss-TOUCHDOWN!!!!!" is BACK!. Champ cant do **** :woot:

I don't think they soundly beat any SB teams. They won that Baltimore game by some gimmick penalty calls that sustained drives. Not to mention Clayton dropping a go ahead TD at the end. They've looked ok this year, not great.

1st of all that Clayton drop wasn't a td. 2nd those penalty calls wer elegit. Terrell Suggs is a *****. 3rd, please. They tooled on Atlanta. No 1st downs all 2nd half? If Brady doesnt airmail it Randy 3 times on bombs, thats another 12 points. That could have easaily been a 38-10 blow out. And Atlanta is a damn good team.

[Dr. Evil]

And another Brett Favre joke from the Tonight Show!

[omid17]

was it funny?

[Dark Donnie]

I wouldnt be surprised either, but i dont see it. Weve struggled in the redzone becuase Brady ****s around throws it Galloway or Aiken instead of just giving Randy a jump balls. Last weeks td to Moss was the opening of the flood gates. "Brady to Moss-TOUCHDOWN!!!!!" is BACK!. Champ cant do **** :woot:



1st of all that Clayton drop wasn't a td. 2nd those penalty calls wer elegit. Terrell Suggs is a *****. 3rd, please. They tooled on Atlanta. No 1st downs all 2nd half? If Brady doesnt airmail it Randy 3 times on bombs, thats another 12 points. That could have easaily been a 38-10 blow out. And Atlanta is a damn good team.

Sorry it was at the 8 but still they didn't handle The Ravens. Also those calls were a joke. Plain and simple. The Ravens complained to no end about the officials but received no fines nor did Suggs from The NFL. They didn't because The NFL knows those were bad calls. Looks like Suggs lost balance. Ngata brushed his helmet.


Roughing the passer?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/12398/49689625.jpg

[Excel]

Sorry it was at the 8 but still they didn't handle The Ravens. Also those calls were a joke. Plain and simple. The Ravens complained to no end about the officials but received no fines nor did Suggs from The NFL. They didn't because The NFL knows those were bad calls. Looks like Suggs lost balance. Ngata brushed his helmet.


Roughing the passer?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/12398/49689625.jpg

Nagatas eh, but Suggs was a total cheapshot. He went right directly at the knees.

They handled the Ravens fine. The Ravens scored 7 points on offense over the final 3 1/2 quarters. Everything for the Pats was clicking other than Brady not throwing it to Moss at all as a few drives stalled. Moss wisely called for the ball during the break, and responded with 2 rec for 36 yards and an gorgeous touchdown the next drive.

Yeah, as a Pats fan, its hard to understand WHY they struggled in the red zone when they have RANDY ****ING MOSS on their team. They can do these plays:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-england-patriots/09000d5d81322050/Brady-to-Moss-TD

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-england-patriots/09000d5d8059fbab/Randy-Moss-Highlight-WK-17-vs-Giants-2007

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-england-patriots/09000d5d803ea7fa/Randy-Moss-Highlight-WK-9-vs-Colts-2007

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-england-patriots/09000d5d802e7da2/Randy-Moss-Highlight-WK-4-vs-Bengals-2007

WHENEVER THEY WANT TO. How do they have trouble getting 6 with him on your team? How does a team with the freakish, all world ability of Moss not score?

Well, suffice to say, that td was a **** pass from Brady and Moss made it look easy. I would think the days of bombs to Aiken and red zone passes to Galloway and Aiken are done. The Tom and Randy show is back!!

*prays they stay healthy*

[Poetic Chaos]

My Niners play Indianapolis and Atlanta in 2/3 upcoming games. Lookin' forward to those as those games will really show if we have any chance of getting outta the wild card and really competing with the elite playoff bound teams. I'm very happy with what I see though, despite having the 28th ranked offense in the league.

[bunk]

1st of all that Clayton drop wasn't a td. 2nd those penalty calls wer elegit. Terrell Suggs is a *****. 3rd, please. They tooled on Atlanta. No 1st downs all 2nd half? If Brady doesnt airmail it Randy 3 times on bombs, thats another 12 points. That could have easaily been a 38-10 blow out. And Atlanta is a damn good team.

The point is: they needed those penalties to sustain drives at that point, regardless of how justified the penalties were. And they still lost to the Jets.

[Erzengel]

Jets sign Braylon Edwards from the Browns. This should help Sanchez.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/2009/10/espn-is-reporting-braylon-edwards-to-the-jets.html

[RAMORE]

Crabtree also just got a deal done with the 49ers!

[BlackLantern]

Crabtree also just got a deal done with the 49ers!

he's still going to be way behind everyone....I don't expect much too much in the terms of production this year

[Erzengel]

Probably see something by like Thanksgiving with him.

[FaT_tONle]

Jets probably brought in a future malcontent that will do more bad than good. I hope they didn't give up a number one. Maybe a 2 and 4 and a pick in 2011 if at all.

[Erzengel]

Edwards seems like he's a diva and being put on the NY big stage might likely be problematic but since Cotchery doesn't demand the defense, the addition of Edwards can leave some openings for him or Keller.

[FaT_tONle]

I just heard it was a 3 & 5... not a bad deal at all. Mangini really repaying Jet fans with these trades.

[StorminNorman]

Crabtree also just got a deal done with the 49ers!

he's still going to be way behind everyone....I don't expect much too much in the terms of production this year

Probably see something by like Thanksgiving with him.

No, he is probably useless all season. Crabtree wasn't able to work at OTA's because of his foot, he is coming from a spread offense to a pro style and receiver is always the hardest transition to make from college to pro. He won't help this year, but this is good for the niners next.

I wouldn't be shocked if Crabtree got injured due to being out of football shape (it happens all the time).

Jets sign Braylon Edwards from the Browns. This should help Sanchez.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/2009/10/espn-is-reporting-braylon-edwards-to-the-jets.html

I am not sure how I think about this. The Browns must really believe Massaquoi's performance wasn't a fluke (why wasn't he on the field earlier in the season :doh:). This could easily go all Plaxico-ey on the Jets quickly though. Plus Edwards could face a suspension from the league due.

[Raiden]

I am not sure how I think about this. The Browns must really believe Massaquoi's performance wasn't a fluke (why wasn't he on the field earlier in the season :doh:). This could easily go all Plaxico-ey on the Jets quickly though. Plus Edwards could face a suspension from the league due.

I'm cautiously optimistic about Edwards' signing with the Jets. Edwards does have alot of talent and is a playmaker, but he's also a headcase. The best scenario would be if Edwards pulls a Randy Moss, and became good once again after being traded to a competing team like the Jets. If it doesn't work out, I heard he'll become a FA next season, so he has the rest of the season to prove to Jets that they should re-sign him. Btw, what's with Mangini keep making deals with his former team? He seems awfully cozy to the team that fired him a year ago.

[FaT_tONle]

Edwards basically has this year and next year to change his act. Jets won't extend him beyond 2010 unless he makes an impact. I can see him throwing Sanchez and the team under the bus if Sanchez continues to struggle year 2.

[StorminNorman]

Edwards has talent, but he also drops balls.

Also, Mangini isn't a GM - so he isn't making these trades.

[Erzengel]

He was great in 2007 but turned all TO last year.

[Raiden]

The point is: they needed those penalties to sustain drives at that point, regardless of how justified the penalties were. And they still lost to the Jets.

Without that stupid fumble by the Bills near the end of that opening game, I think Pats would've been 2-2 now instead of 3-1.

[Erzengel]

They were talking about Rogers in the Monday game on how while not in the, P. Manning, Brady, Favre clas, he's definitely in the next class down with E. Manning, Roethlisberger and Rivers. I really think that Rogers is the next class down from those 3 with like Romo.

[Raiden]

They were talking about Rogers in the Monday game on how while not in the, P. Manning, Brady, Favre clas, he's definitely in the next class down with E. Manning, Roethlisberger and Rivers. I really think that Rogers is the next class down from those 3 with like Romo.

Rodgers is a better QB than Romo now imo.

[StorminNorman]

Favre isn't in the P. Manning/Brady class anymore, and hasn't been for a while.

I agree with Rogers being in the "second ring" of QB's. He is certainly no worse than Eli, Big Ben or Rivers.

[Erzengel]

I think Rogers is better than Romo, however he's still only in his 2nd year and I'd need to see him win a playoff game or 2.

[StorminNorman]

His play if off the charts though. He has accuracy, arm strength, mobility and toughness. Monday Night was nothing short of a masterpiece performance.

[BlackLantern]

Favre isn't in the P. Manning/Brady class anymore, and hasn't been for a while.

I agree with Rogers being in the "second ring" of QB's. He is certainly no worse than Eli, Big Ben or Rivers.

agreed....Rogers is just going to get better as time passes

[Raiden]

I think Rogers is better than Romo, however he's still only in his 2nd year and I'd need to see him win a playoff game or 2.

Has Romo win a playoff game yet? :oldrazz:

[Erzengel]

Which is why I still rank both in the "sophmore" class. :o

[StorminNorman]

We are coming upon a great new age for QB's. This next decade will have Big Ben, Cutler, Rivers, Eli, Rogers, Ryan, Flacco, Stafford and possibly Sanchez all playing for long, long time.

[Raiden]

We are coming upon a great new age for QB's. This next decade will have Big Ben, Cutler, Rivers, Eli, Rogers, Ryan, Flacco, Stafford and possibly Sanchez all playing for long, long time.

And with the league suddenly clamping down on head-and-knee hits against QBs, it may mean that more of them will escape career-ending injuries and have a longer lifespan in the NFL.

[kane9321]

Crabtree also just got a deal done with the 49ers!


Yes we finally signed him after all the crap..he better be worth it:cmad:

[Addendum]

Yes we finally signed him after all the crap..he better be worth it:cmad:

:hehe:

[Raiden]

Yes we finally signed him after all the crap..he better be worth it:cmad:

If he doesn't perform and live up to expectation, Niners fans can call him by his new nickname: Craptree. :hehe:

[Dr. Evil]

Edwards future in Cleveland was already on shaky ground. Him punching a friend of LeBron James (who is like god in Cleveland) was the icing on the cake.

[Dr. Evil]

was it funny?

It involved Brett Favre and Adult diapers in a segment of "Year 3000", did not hear the whole thing.

The first joke was that during the game, he was sacked so much that he retired after the game.

[StorminNorman]

hahaha :dry:

[Raiden]

I found something interesting (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4535583) about the Rams in this ESPN about Rush Limbaugh's bid to buy the team:

Los Angeles still is without a team, and a loophole in the Rams' lease allows them to move as early as 2014 if the Edward Jones Dome is not deemed among the top quarter of all NFL stadiums. Though just 14 years old, the dome is fast becoming one of the league's older venues, and getting it into the top quarter seems unlikely.

This may explain why other NFL teams may be on the move due to the stadium they are occupying not up to NFL standard.

[Kane52630]

man i hope the JETS can redeem themselves on MNF

[Raiden]

man i hope the JETS can redeem themselves on MNF

Jets should be able to defeat Dolphins on MNF, and they must do so if they want to prove that they are to be taken seriously as a top contender in NFL.

[Raiden]

What If NFL Teams Update Their Logo? (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=snibbe1/091006&sportCat=nfl)

I LOL'd on some of those changes.



EDIT: Thou shalt not hotlink.

'fire

[KALEL114]

The St. Louis and Carolina are my favorite.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/KALEL114/pg2_e_logob_576.jpg

[BlackLantern]

I love the Hello Kitty one

[Immortalfire]

Very nice :funny:

[NewYorkSpider]

I lost it on the Raiders/Rams logo. :lmao:

[omid17]

It involved Brett Favre and Adult diapers in a segment of "Year 3000", did not hear the whole thing.

The first joke was that during the game, he was sacked so much that he retired after the game.:up:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-49ers-crabtree&prov=ap&type=lgns

49ers agree to 6-year deal with WR Crabtree

[Raiden]

I think I'll use that Al Davis logo as my avatar later. :hehe:

[Alex The Great]

:up:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-49ers-crabtree&prov=ap&type=lgns

49ers agree to 6-year deal with WR Crabtree




and thus, it ends.

[Go Web Go!]

I enjoyed the Panthers and Vikings logos the most. Titans and Seahawks were funny too.

[Raiden]

I enjoyed the Panthers and Vikings logos the most. Titans and Seahawks were funny too.

I like the Tampa Bay logo because it's so true about the Bucs nowadays.

[Go Web Go!]

It's fitting that they're breaking out those old Bucco Bruce uniforms in a few weeks.

[Raiden]

Report: Braylon Edwards did not throw punch (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/33212157/ns/sports-player_news/)

If true, that's good news for Jets, because it means NFL will not suspend him as a desclipinary action, although he's not entirely without fault because someone from his entourage did it, according to the report.

[NewYorkSpider]

Did anyone watch First and 10 on Monday? Skip Bayless was ripping into the Cowboys like there was no tomorrow. It's those kind of people that actually make me want the Cowboys to beat the Eagels(Bayless is a fan of them) twice in a season.

[BlackLantern]

Bayless has written a book on the Cowboys...I always thought he was a Cowboys fan...he did cover sports in Dallas for 17 years

[omid17]

Did anyone watch First and 10 on Monday? Skip Bayless was ripping into the Cowboys like there was no tomorrow. It's those kind of people that actually make me want the Cowboys to beat the Eagels(Bayless is a fan of them) twice in a season.he was just blaming Jason Garrett for their lost

[omid17]

Bayless has written a book on the Cowboys...I always thought he was a Cowboys fan...he did cover sports in Dallas for 17 yearsi think he is, i know he likes Jerry Jones

[BlackLantern]

I know Skip doesn't like andy reid all that much....I read Gods Coach, which is the book he wrote about Tom Landry...very interesting

[omid17]

I know Skip doesn't like andy reid all that much....I read Gods Coach, which is the book he wrote about Tom Landry...very interesting i need to check it out

[NewYorkSpider]

I've always heard Bayless refer to the Eagels as "my team". Some of the books he wrote bashed the Cowboys. He wrote about the possibility of Aikman being gay.

[omid17]

I've always heard Bayless refer to the Eagels as "my team". Some of the books he wrote bashed the Cowboys. He wrote about the possibility of Aikman being gay.i've never read any of his books but i do watch ESPN First Take every morning, he actually thinks that the Cowboys will win the Super Bowl this season