2009 NFL Thread

[BlackLantern]

he called Jerry Jones firing Jimmy Johnson regardless of how successful Jimmy was...and he spent 17 years covering the team....as a Giants fan, I hope when Philly plays Dallas a meteor crashes into the stadium and eradicates them both

[The Riddler]

glad crabtree signed.

anyway, rodgers has D in it for anyone who hasn't yet noticed.

[Dark Donnie]

Did anyone watch First and 10 on Monday? Skip Bayless was ripping into the Cowboys like there was no tomorrow. It's those kind of people that actually make me want the Cowboys to beat the Eagels(Bayless is a fan of them) twice in a season.
He hates The Eagles and basically has a problem with everything Philly....kinda like BL.



Bengals Wide Receiver Chad OchoCinco vs Ravens Cornerback Fabian Washington:

Chad Ochocinco (OGOchoCinco) to Fabian Washington (FABEWASH31): “bruh you in trouble Sunday, you gone kiss da baby, this ain’t a threat it’s a promise. I’m shutting the front door on you!!!!!”
Washington: “trust me home boy it’s going down. Believe dat”
Ochocinco: “don’t do that, don’t talk back son, know yo competition son, this ain’t madden, you really hit to see me”
Ochocinco: “tell Vivica Foxworth he better just sit this game out!!!”
Washington: “this water running up hill. Str8 pressure”
Ochocinco: “huh!!! Shut the front door!! You betta pray you got help every down, watch the clevland film, 2 man every down<—[expletive]!!!”
Washington: “really if u watched the film u can c I had no help. But good night it’s past my bed time”
Ochocinco: “bed time, you ain’t gonna be able to rest, cmon son, have a dream like Martin Luther king son you will get embarassed Sunday”

:lmao:

[Mastodon123]

Chad's getting close to matching last years stats already. He could possibly be the comeback player of the year if he keeps it up.

[StorminNorman]

Estavon Ochocinco, the most interesting footballer in the world.

[Ace of Knaves]

Is that real? :funny:

[That-Guy]

God, I am so sick of hearing about Ochosphincter. Even though I hate the Ravens, I hope they pound the crap out of him this weekend.

[StorminNorman]

Child please.

[RAMORE]

I picked the Ravens based on D but it should be interesting:D

[Dark Donnie]

I think Ochocinco is hilarious personally.

[Excel]

Chad is such a goon :up:

[Darthphere]

God, I am so sick of hearing about Ochosphincter. Even though I hate the Ravens, I hope they pound the crap out of him this weekend.

Child please.

:up:

[Mister J]

I couldn't understand about 3/4 of it, but Ocho is tops.

[Go Web Go!]

I don't like him, but he entertains me.

[Addendum]

It takes more than twitter smack to entertain me

[That-Guy]

I don't find him the least bit entertaining honestly, but regardless of that, I think I also can't stand the guy because NFL Network gives him so much coverage. The same could obviously be said for other guys they are in love with like Favre, but at least Favre merits the attention. Chad I-Changed-My-Last-Name-to-A-Number-that-Doesn't-Actually-Exist-Because-I-Needed-Some-Attention Johnson is just a jackass who, while talented, really hasn't been all that significant in the grand scheme of things.

[Excel]

Annnnnnnnnd Fred Taylor's gonna need ankle surgery. Great.

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Lomo FTW

[Dark Donnie]

Lomo? Sammy Morris will see the majority of carries.

[Go Web Go!]

It takes more than twitter smack to entertain me

I'm not a twitterer/tweeter/twatter, whatever the hell you want to call it, so I don't follow anything he does through there. I think he's entertaining after watching him on Hard Knocks.

[Excel]

Lomo? Sammy Morris will see the majority of carries.

:huh: Maroneys been the starter and majority carrier for every game outside of Atlanta (in which he was until his thigh tightened up and Taylor came in and did well.) Morris has operating almost exlcusively out of fullback or tb in short yardage. Hes lined a few times in **** gon alng side Brady, but has seen very little action as the halfback with Brady under center. Maroney has more than twice as many carries as Morris, though both suffer from poor situational use and have terrible ypc (Maroney plays more of a decoy than anything as all they ever do with him is play action pass, while Morris has been exclusing shortline outside of 1 carry). Yahoo summed it up well:

If Taylor can't go, the spotlight is Maroney's alone. The dancing at the line of scrimmage must cease, and he needs to hit the hole hard. The coaches also can help his production by finding him open spaces.

Maroney has thrived as a pass receiver, evidenced by a 17-yard gain vs. Baltimore. Abandoning the run can't be an option.

I bolded that because thats been a much bigger problem them dancing....running into walls/having to evade several defenders in the backfield has caused him to dance more than anything.

Maybe they can feed Maroney the ball the way they did when he owned in 2007, or perhaps theyll go back to throwing every play.

[Dark Donnie]

I expect Maroney to do nothing...he stinks

[Excel]

Maroney has all the talent inthe world; he is just a terrible fit for what NE likes to do running the ball.

[The Game]

Annnnnnnnnd Fred Taylor's gonna need ankle surgery. Great.

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Lomo FTW

Yeah well he has no choice but to step up, personally I would like to see Law firm more

Ocho totally rules

[omid17]

Annnnnnnnnd Fred Taylor's gonna need ankle surgery. Great.

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Lomo FTWdamn

[Excel]

Yeah well he has no choice but to step up, personally I would like to see Law firm more

This is nothing personal....but these Pats fans thinking Greenellis should be in are just :facepalm:

Hes not an NFL runner. He is too slow. The players he tooled on in the preseason are currently in another profession. It took him, 26 carries? to get 100 yards. If they give Maroney 26 carries in a game...I would be shocked if the total was under 125. Minimum.

[Dark Donnie]

Your love for Maroney is hilarious.

[BlackLantern]

I think Maroney is a better than average back, but he isn't going to get any better

[Excel]

Your love for Maroney is hilarious.

I dunno if its love or my annoyance at the mostly unjust hate he gets...

[Dr. Evil]

Tampa Bay will have a new kicker after they released Mike Nugent.

[Dr. Evil]

Stuff

[The Game]

This is nothing personal....but these Pats fans thinking Greenellis should be in are just :facepalm:

Hes not an NFL runner. He is too slow. The players he tooled on in the preseason are currently in another profession. It took him, 26 carries? to get 100 yards. If they give Maroney 26 carries in a game...I would be shocked if the total was under 125. Minimum.

I just don't trust Maroney any more.

[Kane52630]

Tampa Bay will have a new kicker after they released Mike Nugent.

didnt they had like 4 different kickers last season? :hehe:

[Dr. Evil]

didnt they had like 4 different kickers last season? :hehe:

Yes. They are now going with their second kicker.

[Raiden]

Is this flag football? (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10192598/Week-5-preview:-Is-this-flag-football?)

Every time we think the pansification of American Tackle Football has reached a point of absurdity beyond which it cannot possibly venture, the great game takes another step in the wrong direction.

The Ravens were hit with two roughing-the-passer calls in their 27-21 loss to the Patriots in Week 4 that were even more ridiculous than the two laughable roughing-the-passer calls the Patriots were hit with in Week 1 against the Bills.
The combined contact of the game-changing 15-yard penalties on Haloti Ngata and Terrell Suggs brought to mind a lepidopterist handling a butterfly.


LET THEM PLAY If anyone feels the pain of confused defenders trying to figure out the NFL QB protections rules, it's NFL on FOX analyst John Lynch, as he said in a Wednesday chat.
We get it. The league wants to protect the quarterback. But isn't that why he — like all the other players on the field — is wearing a helmet and pads?

That protection seems almost surplus to requirements when every love tap starts getting flagged. Defenders can't go high — contact between hand and helmet or helmet and helmet is an automatic flag — and can no longer go low. The window for where a pass rusher can drill the QB is narrowing to the point where every hit your team puts on a QB is followed by a breathless five-count hoping it didn't elicit a flag for being too high, too low or simply too hard.

The officials' willingness to penalize the most negligible contact on the quarterback has also given rise to the regrettable post-pass pleading that almost every QB engages in to try to get the flag. Never has the spectacle been more evident than when Brady was grazed by Suggs around the knees and turned immediately to referee Ron Winter and began his lobbying. Winter fell for it and the flag came out.

The sequence prompted former teammate Rodney Harrison to admonish Brady to "Take off the skirt." It was a dig and a demand that could be extended to the competition committee as well.

A lamentable 2006 roughing the passer call by Mike Carey on then-Bengal Justin Smith against the Bucs had established a new extreme of cottony softness, prompting Marvin Lewis to say, "I guess you have to cuddle him to the ground."



Lewis was joking. Three years later, it's no joke.

New prohibitions seem to arise every week. Sometimes refs appear to be making them up on the spot. You can't launch into the quarterback. You can't throw the quarterback to the ground. You can't "give the business" to the quarterback.

The bubble wrap is also spreading out of the pocket to other parts of the field. Defenders are told they cannot hit a "defenseless" receiver, a tough calculation to make when you're flying to the ball hoping to break up a 3rd-and-10. The officials are now asked to be forensic pathologists at a split-second crime scene and determine in the blink of an eye if a receiver was totally defenseless or only semi-defenseless.

When the Cowboys' Roy Williams got lit up by the Broncos D.J. Williams — on yet another hospital ball thrown by Tony Romo — it was the kind of clean hit that has more and more frequently been flagged just for the sheer, perfect force of it.

It wasn't flagged. Hallelujah. The play was a reminder of how great tackle football can be when they just let them play.



I have to agree with this article; it's becoming a bit too ridiculous lately.

[NotFadeAway]

I remember watching the Golden Gophers back at the beginning of the decade when they were a great running team with the tandem of Marion Barber and Maroney. Maroney was the one who got all the love from the media and was primed to be drafted in the 1st round, but I always thought Barber was better. Low and behold, Barber is better.

I love Marion Barber, I love watching him run. The reason he is injury prone is because he runs through opposing defenders in a Jim Brown-esque way. Barber is an animal. I wanted the Panthers to draft him in 2005, but we had to go and draft Eric Shelton instead, who is now out of the league. Good job, Marty Hurney.

And no, that isn't hindsight. Hindsight would be for me to say that I wanted us to draft Brandon Jacobs or Frank Gore. I didn't, but I wanted Barber.

[Dr. Evil]

Is this flag football? (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10192598/Week-5-preview:-Is-this-flag-football?)



I have to agree with this article; it's becoming a bit too ridiculous lately.

Maybe the NFL needs to get rid of the sack then.

[Mister J]

Fun fact I just read:

Monday night, Minnesota WR Sidney Rice threw an incomplete pass. His QB rating (based on 0-1, 0 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT) was 39.6. Tubby Russell's rating for the entire season so far: 42.4.

Yes, there are only about 12 people on the planet that understand how the rating system works, but what's above is hysterical.

[Excel]

I remember watching the Golden Gophers back at the beginning of the decade when they were a great running team with the tandem of Marion Barber and Maroney. Maroney was the one who got all the love from the media and was primed to be drafted in the 1st round, but I always thought Barber was better. Low and behold, Barber is better.

I love Marion Barber, I love watching him run. The reason he is injury prone is because he runs through opposing defenders in a Jim Brown-esque way. Barber is an animal. I wanted the Panthers to draft him in 2005, but we had to go and draft Eric Shelton instead, who is now out of the league. Good job, Marty Hurney.

And no, that isn't hindsight. Hindsight would be for me to say that I wanted us to draft Brandon Jacobs or Frank Gore. I didn't, but I wanted Barber.

tR_aN0qg--g

They both beasts but its easy to see why Maroney was the better prospect of the 2. Maroney was electrifying; at 1:20 that 90 yard touchdown is just awesome; the cut at the los is like a 120 degree turn and he does it seamlessly :eek: They both are fluid and smooth, but Maroneys burst and lateral agility were just astounding for a 220 lbser.

[Cmill216]

Is Maroney still in the league?

[bunk]

Somebody has to walk back the kick returns.

[vindrow]

Found this on another board and got a small chuckle out of it:


Denver Broncos outside linebacker Elvis Dumervil was flagged for roughing New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady Thursday, three full days before the two were set to face one another on the football field.

“I saw Dumervil chasing and sacking me in my dreams,” Brady stated simply. “So I called coach (Bill Belichick), he called the NFL officials office, and they took care of it from there.”

NFL Head of Officiating Mike Pereira confirmed the penalty, citing the NFL’s publicly concerted efforts to protect the league’s signal callers and the quality of the game.

“We don’t want our star players to suffer,” Pereira said. “Let’s face it, this is a quarterback’s game, and whether it’s season-ending knee surgery or scream-inducing night terrors, our quarterbacks need to be protected.”

“I really don’t see what the big deal is,” Brady added.

Dumervil, tied for the league lead in sacks, is expected to be fined up to $15,000 for his perceived actions. Fearing further league punishment, Dumervil declined to comment.

[Excel]

Haha, thats great.

[Fresh Prince]

Maybe the NFL needs to get rid of the sack then.

Why?

[NewYorkSpider]

Not sure if it has been discussed in here, but did anyone see the replays of the Bengals GW FG kick?

IXEvnYwp4Rw

The kicked looked like it missed to the right. What do you think?

[FaT_tONle]

2-1-1 ... 0-3-1.

[Dr. Evil]

Why?

because the NFL wants to protect the QB

[Excel]

The Suggs call was justified.

HnmGSMccDuU

[FaT_tONle]

I like the QB protection, but the receivers over the middle is a bit ridiculous. I mean your helmet or your arm grazes the receivers head and you are flagged for it. It's a bit too much. Obviously they are trying to improve safety so they can to extend the season in the new bargaining agreement, but I'd rather they shorten the season as it is now and allow those grazings of the helmet than have those rules now with a 16 game season or more.

[Dr. Evil]

The NFL has too many damn rules.

[bunk]

The Suggs call was justified.

HnmGSMccDuU

It was a good thing Suggs was there to help them convert. Brady should have thanked him after the game. So what if he almost snapped his arm off like a twig.

[That-Guy]

Not sure if it has been discussed in here, but did anyone see the replays of the Bengals GW FG kick?

IXEvnYwp4Rw

The kicked looked like it missed to the right. What do you think?

Yeah, I remembered seeing this when I was watching the highlights and thinking the same thing. It definitely looks like he missed it.

I also think that Ochocinco's "brilliant" one handed catch should have been called out of bounds because I'm almost positive the he didn't get both feet down. But it's Ochocinco so they probably let him get away with it just so Rich Eisen could have something to gush over all week on Total Access.

[omid17]

Not sure if it has been discussed in here, but did anyone see the replays of the Bengals GW FG kick?

IXEvnYwp4Rw

The kicked looked like it missed to the right. What do you think?
:wow: never caught that, the kicker really did miss it

[Bond]

"If this would have happened to the Patriots or Cowboys, people would be up in arms."

So true. :up:

[Kaleb]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/10/maroney-now-under-the-microscope/


lol Maroney your days are numbered.

[Excel]

Maroneys day as a Patriot are far from numbered; he is easily the best blocking back and 2nd best receiver...worst case scenario he just doesnt get oo many carries and contributed mostly outta the passing game.

Either way Maroneysi bouncing after 2010 when his contracts up. Hes gonna go somewhere where hell get the ball consistently. I hate reading stuff like that because he says "what changed between me in college or at the end of 2007...and me now?" and here is the answer.


2005 Season with Gophers

*Games with ypc over 5 in bold
Carries per game:
1: 21
2: 26
3: 20
4: 46
5: 16
6: 36
7: 43
8: 25
9: 15
10: 7
11: 26

2006 with Pats
*Games with ypc over 4 in bold
Carries by game:
1: 17
2: 16
3: 12
4: 15
5: 18
6: 8
7: 8
8: 13
9: 12
10: 19
11: 13
12: 4
13: 7
14: 13
15: 18
16: 5
17: 13

2007 with Pats
*Games with ypc ver 4.5 in bold
Carries by game:
1: 20
2: 15
3: 19
4: 6
5: 14
6: 15
7: 6
8: 10
9: 13
10: 8
11: 26
12: 14
13: 19
14: 22
15: 25
16: 14


Is it just me, or is it not an easy observation that his best games come when hes fed the ball, as opposed to getting carries here & there like hes been. I went with ypc over yardage.

His best ypc comes in the games he gets the most carries. His YPC is HIGHER in games when he gets the ball 22 times than in games when he gets 6. For most guys its the opposite.

What other conclusions can one derive from that, other than that, in order for him to do his best, he has to get the ball?

[Hotwire]

Posting my picks for this week's games.

Bengals v. Ravens
Browns v. Bills
Redskins v. Panthers
Steelers v. Lions
Cowboys v. Chiefs
Raiders v. Giants
Buccaneers v. Eagles
Vikings v. Rams
Falcons v. 49ers
Texans v. Cardinals
Patriots v. Broncos
Jaguars v. Seahawks
Colts v. Titans
Jets v. Dolphins

I know the Patriots and Cowboys will probably win, but I just can't stand either team and cannot bring myself to pick them.

[Hotwire]

The Bengals made the kick. There are two refs standing under the goal posts watching it go through. The replay is from a different angle and you can't even see the ball all that well. Now if someone has video looking up from under the uprights, I'd love to see it.

[Kaleb]

My picks


Bengals v. Ravens
Browns v. Bills
Redskins v. Panthers
Steelers v. Lions
Cowboys v. Chiefs
Raiders v. Giants
Buccaneers v. Eagles
Vikings v. Rams
Texans v. Cardinals
Patriots v. Broncos
Jaguars v. Seahawks
Colts v. Titans
Jets v. Dolphins

[FaT_tONle]

2-2 again last week... 9-7 on the year. Can't get over the hump. I'll go:

Broncos over Pats
Falcons over 49ers
Titans over Colts
Cardinals over Texans

Not too confident though, all very tough games to call.

[Spider-Fan]

The Cincy kicker definately missed that kick. But, even if they said it was no good, game ends in a tie. So, I don't overtly care much. The Browns suck enough to where it won't matter if they got robbed on that one. Though they DID get robbed. However, this is bad in regard to the playoff picture, cause Cincy should have 1 less win. That is the bad part.

I do think the Browns will upset the Bills, though. The Browns are 2-0 the past two seasons against the Bills. I think they'll beat them again.

[Kaiser]

Yeah, I remembered seeing this when I was watching the highlights and thinking the same thing. It definitely looks like he missed it.

I also think that Ochocinco's "brilliant" one handed catch should have been called out of bounds because I'm almost positive the he didn't get both feet down. But it's Ochocinco so they probably let him get away with it just so Rich Eisen could have something to gush over all week on Total Access.

he got one foot down and then landed on his shoulder. so he didnt need both feet down.

second steeler fan dont need to be talking about refs handing people ish. Holmes super bowl catch and then the whole seahawks game were all bogus.

watching the game live i thought shayne did miss the kick but on the second replay that no one seems to be showing... shows the ball go through the up rights

[Darthphere]

Not sure if it has been discussed in here, but did anyone see the replays of the Bengals GW FG kick?

IXEvnYwp4Rw

The kicked looked like it missed to the right. What do you think?

What do I think? I think there were about 10,000 fans sitting behind the field goal post. I think the whole coaching staff for the Browns was watching the play. I think all the players from both sides were watching the kick. I think if it really did miss, there would've been some type of ruckus. It's a bad angle.

[Silver Knight]

Let's go Jags!

[kane9321]

lets go 49ers..lets do this

go pats go

[BatMatt]

If the Bills do not win today, I will punch a baby

[Mister J]

Assistant: Raiders' Cable Blindsided Him (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4550855)
Randy Hanson, the ousted Raiders defensive assistant coach who has accused Tom Cable of viciously breaking his jaw with a punch, says the Oakland coach hit him with a cheap shot and that he had "no reason to believe he wouldn't have killed me" if others hadn't pulled Cable away.

"From my blind side, Tom Cable threw me from my chair and into a piece of furniture that a lamp sat upon," Hanson told Yahoo! Sports of the alleged Aug. 5 incident. "He was screaming, 'I'll [expletive] kill you! I'll [expletive] kill you!' And I have no reason to believe he wouldn't have killed me if they hadn't pulled him away.


"If my head would've hit a different way, I might be dead right now."Just win, baby. :hehe:

Also, the Union is opposing Limbaugh's bid to buy the Rams and Culpepper is starting today.

[BlackLantern]

tell that guy to stop being a *****....you should have stood up and fought back.....sissy

[Go Web Go!]

Why the **** does the NFL insist on broadcasting **** games in my area? I don't want to see Raiders/Giants or Cowboys/Chiefs. **** this. I'm watching MLB.

[Immortalfire]

Lets go Falcons :up:

[BlackLantern]

to be fair, the 1:00 games are all a bit weak

[Go Web Go!]

Yeah, but I'd much rather see a game between 2 clunker teams than yet another game featuring an NFC East team against an NFC West team.

[Mister J]

Baltimore/Cincinnati is really the only game worth a damn. Show me a good game from last year instead this other mess.

[Hotwire]

Why the **** does the NFL insist on broadcasting **** games in my area? I don't want to see Raiders/Giants or Cowboys/Chiefs. **** this. I'm watching MLB.
You're in NYC right? What team should they be showing on TV if not the Giants? :facepalm:

You can always get DirecTV and pay $300 for the NFL Sunday Ticket.

[Dr. Evil]

So the Giants will face Chubbo.....

[Immortalfire]

So the Giants will face Chubbo.....

1% of Yahoo Pick 'em users picked Oakland to win.

[Dude101]

Watching the saints next opponent the Giants vs the Raiders.

[Go Web Go!]

You're in NYC right? What team should they be showing on TV if not the Giants? :facepalm:

I'm in Miami, actually, so you know where you can stick that facepalm. :o

[Hotwire]

I'm in Miami, actually, so you know where you can stick that facepalm. :o
Well excuse me, but your location says Big Apple, made me think you were in NYC. So...

[Mister J]

Bengals had some things working down the field, but managed to bungle it all into a botched FG.

Hearing Gus Johnson say "Esteban Ochocinco" is love.

[Kaiser]

Bengals had some things working down the field, but managed to bungle it all into a botched FG.

Hearing Gus Johnson say "Esteban Ochocinco" is love.

Carson and Chad were carving up the Ravens and then once they get in the red zone they decide to go two straight runs. pathetic. Their play caller costs them more games than they win

brad st louis botched another touching snap

[BlackLantern]

so Fatty has another failed opening series under his ever expanding belt

[Go Web Go!]

Well excuse me, but your location says Big Apple, made me think you were in NYC. So...

All is forgiven.

[Dude101]

Man that boy Steve Smith is beast.

[Darthphere]

so Fatty has another failed opening series under his ever expanding belt

Hahaha, they got on him for that throw even though it was behind him, a better receiver would have caught that.

[Dude101]

so Fatty has another failed opening series under his ever expanding beltThat last play was a good throw but his WR dropped it.

[Darthphere]

That last play was a good throw but his WR dropped it.

No, it wasn't a good throw, but it wasn't a terrible one either. Like I said, a better receiver would have caught that.

[Dude101]

The Raiders D sucks.

[BlackLantern]

and Steve Smith didn't drop his pass....the Giants should get a prize if this is the game that gets either Tom Cable fired or Fatty McGoo benched

[Dude101]

For him that was a good throw the WR should have caught it.

[Darthphere]

and Steve Smith didn't drop his pass....the Giants should get a prize if this is the game that gets either Tom Cable fired or Fatty McGoo benched

I think the Giants start taking out starters at halftime.

[BlackLantern]

NFL RedZone is the best channel ever

[BlackLantern]

you like that Oakland?? take it like you like it

[Mister J]

E. Reed does it again. 52 yd Pick 6.

[NewYorkSpider]

Buffalo must have an injury curse or something. Kawaika Mitchell is being taken away on the cart.

[Dude101]

I hate watching this game. The raiders just sucks.

[Darthphere]

I'm getting two crappy ass games right now. As much as I love making fun of Jamarcus Russel, this is getting boring.

[BlackLantern]

the Oakland defense has to be gassed at this point

[Immortalfire]

I'm getting two crappy ass games right now. As much as I love making fun of Jamarcus Russel, this is getting boring.

You said his name, but didn't make a fatty joke. Fail.

[Mister J]

Jeebus, the Giants are plundering the village.

[The Chris]

Wow, this is a butt whooping, and I love it!

[-Arya-]

Wow I just tuned in to the Giants/Raiders game.

28-0 :woot:

[Dude101]

My god if they take there starters out they better switch the channels seriously this is embarrassing.

[Hotwire]

Looking at the Giants/Raiders game. Um, the NFL doesn't have a mercy rule does it?

[NewYorkSpider]

The Giants might as well put in David Carr.

[Dark Helmet]

I am calling it the Raiders are not making the play offs if they continue to play like this LMAO wow so sad

[Hotwire]

"There comes a point in a game where you know you're beat, and you just try to save yourself for the next game. Maybe the Raiders are at that point?"

-To paraphrase John Madden

[Immortalfire]

I'm stuck with the Steelers/Lions for now

[Dark Helmet]

The Raiders are making the Dolphin game where they had no idea how to run those last two minues of the game look good

[Hotwire]

I'm stuck with the Steelers/Lions for now
That game's a bit closer than I'd expected.

[BlackLantern]

I am calling it the Raiders are not making the play offs if they continue to play like this LMAO wow so sad

is that sarcasm?? what led anyone to believe Oakland might have a shot at anything this year??

[Immortalfire]

is that sarcasm?? what led anyone to believe Oakland might have a shot at anything this year??

Ask Norman and Excel...they were both pretty high on the Raiders awhile back.

[Dark Helmet]

is that sarcasm?? what led anyone to believe Oakland might have a shot at anything this year??

Raider Fans ?

[Matt]

The Steelers/Lions refs are TERRIBLE. They just called a kicking the ball penalty against the wrong team. This is the second time today they've had to correct their call.

[Bond]

The Cowboys are so bad... when does basketball start again? Lol?

[Dude101]

I bet they turn it over after that fumble by the Giants.

[Dark Helmet]

Don't get cocky Giant's

[The Chris]

Looks like Oak's getting a give me here.

[Hotwire]

Did one of the Raiders finanlly find their Giants voodoo doll?

[Marx]

The Bengals/Ravens game is pretty intense!

[Hotwire]

Looks like Oak's getting a give me here.
The Giants may just be trying to spot them some points, make it a bit more of a challenge.

[Dude101]

Thats a fumble.

[The Chris]

That's BS. They didn't blow the whistle until after the fumble, and there wasn't even enough time to judge it as forward progress. That's awful officiating.

[Dude101]

That was a horrible call.

[Dark Helmet]

I guess the refs have money on the Raiders

[Darthphere]

Horrible call. They're lucky this is such a blowout.

[Hotwire]

Well, well. I guess even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

[Dude101]

They put Carr in the game naw.

[Dark Helmet]

They put Carr in the game naw.

Eli deseerves the break but if Carr loses this game hes fired lol

[Silver Knight]

Gosh the Raiders are horrible.

[Bond]

Miles Austin drops a ball that was in his hands, the refs miss a helmet-to-helmet tackle on Romo... **** this game.

[Dark Helmet]

LMAO @ that run right there. WTF Raiders ? At least try or something

[Dark Helmet]

Seriously Raiders ?

[Hotwire]

LMAO @ that run right there. WTF Raiders ? At least try or something

Like I said earlier...

"There comes a point in a game where you know you're beat, and you just try to save yourself for the next game. Maybe the Raiders are at that point?"

-To paraphrase John Madden

[Raiden]

Raider Fans ?

I'm a Raiders fan but I can tell you that I don't believe the Raiders will ever make the playoff, this year or next, as long Al Davis is at the helm.

[Excel]

Cassels in the 2 minute drill :up:

Ask Norman and Excel...they were both pretty high on the Raiders awhile back.

Oakland has a lot of talent on paper; they got screwed with the Schillens injury. I always saw them as a team thatll end hot (i had em staring 3-5 and finishing 10-6. They need their #1 wr back.

[Dark Helmet]

Lmao what the **** Raiders !!!!!!!!!!!

[Hotwire]

What's next for the Raiders, locusts?

[Raiden]

Can't believe that I have Ahmed Bradshaw on one of my fantasy teams and I didn't start him. :doh: Should've been automatic when it's against the Raiders.

[Dark Helmet]

The Raiders only got their one touch down thanks to the refs lol

[SurfDUI]

there's some ugly ball bein played so far.

The bad teams all 4 or 5 of them are not dissapointing today. Poor Oakland fan.

[Hotwire]

So far the only game not going the way I picked, is Browns/Bills. But that one's still 3-0, so...

[Raiden]

Can't believe that Cowboys are losing to the Chiefs...weren't Cowboys one of those teams people believe could go to the Super Bowl this year?

[Hotwire]

Can't believe that Cowboys are losing to the Chiefs...weren't Cowboys one of those teams people believe could go to the Super Bowl this year?
I'm loving it! I mean, even the Raiders beat the Chiefs.

[BlackLantern]

yes...a lot of people had the Cowboys winning the NFC East as well

[Darthphere]

Cassels in the 2 minute drill :up:



Oakland has a lot of talent on paper; they got screwed with the Schillens injury. I always saw them as a team thatll end hot (i had em staring 3-5 and finishing 10-6. They need their #1 wr back.

Yeah, that's it. That's why they suck so right now. Not the fact that they have a quarterback that can't hit the broadside of a barn and a coach who is going to jail pretty soon.

[Dark Helmet]

"Compared to the other games going on the Raiders look like they are the worst team in the world"

I LMAO when he said that

[Kane52630]

like always Oakland is sucking :hehe:

even Carr is doing better than Russel

[Raiden]

Yeah, that's it. That's why they suck so right now. Not the fact that they have a quarterback that can't hit the broadside of a barn and a coach who is going to jail pretty soon.

Alot of teams suffer injury, but injury isn't the reason Raiders suck; it's the whole organization that's the problem not just one or two players, although when your franchise QB is JaMarcus Russell, the Raiders could be part of the Pac 10 Conference and they still won't win anyway. I just feel sorry for Seymour and Belichick dumping him to the wasteland of NFL.

[Dude101]

Oh thank god they changed it.

[Dark Helmet]

Oh thank god they changed it.

Nice change of pace come on Detroit you got plenty of time

[Dark Helmet]

So is the Raider game coming back on ? LMAO

[Kane52630]

So is the Raider game coming back on ? LMAO

:hehe:
i wanted to see what happened, im hoping that the Giants will cross the 50 point mark

[Dark Helmet]

I have the NFL Ticket but that is just WOW lol

[NewYorkSpider]

My FOX channel is having video/audio problems. :csad: Can't watch the Chiefs/Cowboys game.

[Dark Helmet]

The Giants just scored the Raiders could not even get a quarterback sack

[BlackLantern]

david carr just scored a rushing TD

[Kane52630]

My FOX channel is having video/audio problems. :csad: Can't watch the Chiefs/Cowboys game.
that sucks

the Cowboys got 4 offside penaltys in one drive :hehe:

[The Chris]

Somebody should get fired on this raider team, and somebody should get benched, what bums.

[Dr. Evil]

So when does Fatty get replaced?

[NewYorkSpider]

I wonder if Russell loses his cheeseburgers while they're in his hands?

[kane9321]

go 49ers go

look at jamarcus tubbo,its like he has no idea what he's doing...man what a joke of a team

[kane9321]

my cbs is acting funny...wtf

[Immortalfire]

So when does Fatty get replaced?

Who else do they have?

[SuperJediHero]

Cincinnati is GOOD...

Bad teams - will likely go 0-5 (Or 0-4 with teams with a Bye already)!

St Louis Rams
Tampa Bay Bucs
Carolina Panthers
Kansas City Chiefs
Tennessee Titans
Cleveland Browns

Oakland Raiders?

[Kane52630]

Somebody should get fired on this raider team, and somebody should get benched, what bums.

they should just take this team out of the NFL

[Dark Helmet]

There is no problem with CBS Kane. They switched the game to the Steeler game. I checked on 3 different TV's just to make sure lol

[BlackLantern]

JaTubby Russell - 3 lost fumbles, 4 sacks, and 5 completions

[Bond]

It's about time they let Choice run it. ****.

Marion Barber's time here is running short.

[Immortalfire]

Well, maybe the Giants will win this one. lol

[BlackLantern]

5 sacks....Tuck just put him down with a Raider linemen dragging on the back of his jersey

[NewYorkSpider]

(K) Lawernce Tynes - 10 Fantasy Points
(QB) Jamrcus Russel - -7.79 Fantasy Points

[Kane52630]

hey Tubby Russell i have a story to tell you that will make this all feel better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2U8yfKM9nY
G2U8yfKM9nY

[War Party]

JaTubby Russell - 3 lost fumbles, 4 sacks, and 5 completions

Man, that's pathetic.

[Dr. Evil]

JaTubby Russell - 3 lost fumbles, 4 sacks, and 5 completions

And:

12 hamburgers, 50 hotdogs, 1,000 french fries and 12 pizzas.

[Kane52630]

hey Tubby Russell i have a story to tell you that will make this all feel better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2U8yfKM9nY
G2U8yfKM9nY

quote to the next page :hehe:

[Darthphere]

You know, at some point you need to go back in the locker room, walk into the coaches office and just stop living in denial. You're not any good, and never will be, especially with your own crappy work ethic.

[Dr. Evil]

*hoping for another set of Brett Favre jokes on Conan this week*

[Dark Helmet]

*hoping for another set of Brett Favre jokes on Conan this week*

There will probably be Raiders & Russell jokes

[Immortalfire]

You know, at some point you need to go back in the locker room, walk into the coaches office and just stop living in denial. You're not any good, and never will be, especially with your own crappy work ethic.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-russellstruggles100809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

An article on Russell...the word "weight" is mentioned several times.

[Dark Helmet]

Field Goal for the Giants. All they need is one Touch Down to get to the 50 Points Mark

[Kane52630]

Field Goal for the Giants. All they need is one Touch Down to get to the 50 Points Mark

:up:

[Dark Helmet]

You know this is my first full year watching Football. I might just have to become a Giants fan after this WOW lol. I have not yet picked a team to follow

[Mister J]

The Giants keep scoring. :lmao:

[BlackLantern]

You know this is my first full year watching Football. I might just have to become a Giants fan after this WOW lol. I have not yet picked a team to follow

we don't accept newbie bandwagoners...go be a Dallas fan, they love bandwagoners

[Kane52630]

You know this is my first full year watching Football. I might just have to become a Giants fan after this WOW lol. I have not yet picked a team to follow

Mister Burns: Excellent.

[Dude101]

Become a Saints fan. Who Dat.

[Dark Helmet]

we don't accept newbie bandwagoners...go be a Dallas fan, they love bandwagoners

Don't make me become a fan just to piss you off lol

[Dr. Evil]

Bengals allowed Ravens Running Back Ray Rice from Rutgers a long TD off a screen.

[Mister J]

Good news for Tubby: His completion percentage is 61.5. Without checking, that's got to be a season high.

Bad news for Tubby: His body fat percentage is above 61.5. Also, a season high.

[Ace of Knaves]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-russellstruggles100809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

An article on Russell...the word "weight" is mentioned several times.

Heh, when DeAngelo Hall is saying there is something wrong with the attitude of the organization, you know they're in deep doo doo.

[Immortalfire]

Good news for Tubby: His completion percentage is 61.5. Without checking, that's got to be a season high.

Bad news for Tubby: His body fat percentage is above 61.5. Also, a season high.

Oooh :hehe:

[Dark Helmet]

CBS turned off the Steelers game lol

[Mister J]

This Bengals/Ravens game is a good 'un. :up:

[kane9321]

damn ray..lol

[Kane52630]

did anyone saw what just happen

Ray Lewis just knock the s*** out of Chad 85

[kane9321]

cmon ravens

[Dark Helmet]

Even the NFL Ticket Channel changed the Raiders game ?

[kane9321]

u gotta be kiddin me..these refs

[Mister J]

Ravens will be chirping about the refs again this week.

[The Chris]

holy crap what a TD for the Bengals!

[Dude101]

Wow the Bengals are for real.

[Darthphere]

u gotta be kiddin me..these refs

Those were good calls.

[Dude101]

Kane all those Pnts were fair.

[Darthphere]

The Bengals might actually win 12 games as Chadstrodamus predicted.

[Dark Helmet]

Ah okay the Raiders gave up

[kane9321]

yeah they were..not gonna lie

[The Game]

Those guys are the Cardiac Cats for real............wow

I can't stand the Ravens, those calls were justified

[Kane52630]

i need a gif of that hit to Chad, that was incredible

[Bond]

Miles Austin is so much better than Patrick Crayton. He'll start opposite Roy Williams in the next game.

[kane9321]

49er time..lets do this

[Darthphere]

Aww man didn't know about Zimmer's wife.

[Dude101]

That was an awesome game.

[Raiden]

You know this is my first full year watching Football. I might just have to become a Giants fan after this WOW lol. I have not yet picked a team to follow

Be a Raiders fan. :hehe:

[Dude101]

Aww man didn't know about Zimmer's wife.
Im glad they won, thats awesome.

[War Party]

Man, the Bengals have been so much fun to watch.

[Kaiser]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEYYYYY!!!

Carson FREAKING PALMER!!!!!

[SuperJediHero]

Cincinnati is GOOD...

Bad teams - will likely go 0-5 (Or 0-4 with teams with a Bye already)!

St Louis Rams
Tampa Bay Bucs
Carolina Panthers
Kansas City Chiefs
Tennessee Titans
Cleveland Browns

Oakland Raiders?

Well looks like Cleveland Browns will win 1st game against Buffalo Bills.

And Carolina Panthers beat the Redskins!!!

[Marx]

BENGALS WIN! BENGALS WIN! BENGALS WIN! :applaud

I can't take many more of these games. They have had to pull out the victory in the very last seconds of the game this whole season.

[Mister J]

Derek Anderson is 2/17, 23 yards and a pick. How the hell does Cleveland win?

[Darthphere]

It's crazy to think that the Bengals should be 5-0.

[Ace of Knaves]

C'mon Falcons!!!!!!!!!!!! :dpf:

[Marx]

It's crazy to think that the Bengals should be 5-0.

Freakin' LUCKY Broncos! :argh:

[Immortalfire]

Let's go Falcons :up:

[NewYorkSpider]

Derek Anderson is 2/17, 23 yards and a pick. How the hell does Cleveland win?


The wind was terrible up there. Both offenses weren't really effective. Parish cost the Bills the game with his stupidity. The Bills have now lost 2 games because of players being dumb.

[Raiden]

BENGALS WIN! BENGALS WIN! CWIN! :applaud

I can't take many more of these games. They have had to pull out the victory in the very last seconds of the game this whole season.

They are legit.

[Darthphere]

Chiefs should go for 2.

[Kaiser]

BENGALS WIN! BENGALS WIN! BENGALS WIN! :applaud

I can't take many more of these games. They have had to pull out the victory in the very last seconds of the game this whole season.

I dont know. It's about time that their games are interesting to watch.

[Kane52630]

and its tied

[Ace of Knaves]

Tha Burner!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Marx]

I dont know. It's about time that their games are interesting to watch.

The Bengals long snapper should be fired!

[Darthphere]

Chiefs should have gone for 2. Come on guys.

[BlackLantern]

oh jeezus, Denver and NE have the old AFL uniforms out....its a whole lot of fashion fail out there

[Dr. Evil]

Chiefs have a kicker who's last name is pronounced "Suck-Up"

[Kane52630]

Chiefs should have gone for 2. Come on guys.

playing it safe i guess

[Dr. Evil]

The hell is up with the Denver uniforms?

[The Game]

Those Bronco's throwbacks are awful

[Immortalfire]

What in the name of Matt Ryan's hair are the Broncos wearing??!

:barf:

[NewYorkSpider]

Panthers get their first W of the season. Still didn't look good, but I'll take it.

[Ironfan72]

Cardiac Cats pull out another one, great win by my Bengals over a very good Raven team. Bengals are now 3-0 against AFC North rivals.
I agree, the long snapper needs released, thats like the third time this year he nearly snapped the ball over the holders head.

[Marx]

What in the name of Matt Ryan's hair are the Broncos wearing??!

:barf:

:lmao:

[BlackLantern]

What in the name of Matt Ryan's hair are the Broncos wearing??!

:barf:

I...I...I don't know....they are wearing the cloth equivalent of a flaming train wreck that careened into a school bus

[Dude101]

I was rooting for Washington but I forgot they suck.

[Dr. Evil]

Fatty will be dealing with his suckiness by eating an entire buffet.

[The Game]

It only took me a week to forget that NE's tackling can be awful

[Cmill216]

How on God's green earth did the Browns win a game while only completing two passes?

[Marx]

How on God's green earth did the Browns win a game while only completing two passes?

I think we're all trying to figure that one out Cmill...it's mindblowing.

[Dr. Evil]

completing only two passes...I expected that from Fatty McFatty Fat, but not Derek Anderson.

[Immortalfire]

I...I...I don't know....they are wearing the cloth equivalent of a flaming train wreck that careened into a school bus

Blech...they look like the cheapest most poorest D-3 college team on earth :doh:

[Dude101]

That game was horrible on both sides. I wouldn't be happy with that win at all.

[BlackLantern]

Blech...they look like the cheapest most poorest D-3 college team on earth :doh:

hey...you leave South Dakota PolyTech out of this

:oldrazz: