2009 NFL Thread

[Kane52630]

IN YOUR FACE!!!!!
:hehe:

[Raiden]

Now that sux.

[The Chris]

Touchdown! What a play!

[The Chris]

Ugh.

[Dark Helmet]

This game will go into overtime

[omid17]

This game will go into overtimeit wont but it'll still be a close game

[The Chris]

what the hell kind of defense was that?

[NewYorkSpider]

Ted Ginn. :wow:

[Mister J]

About time he did something. Sorry *****.

[Dark Helmet]

IN YOUR FACE!!!!!
:hehe:

Right back at ya ***** lol

[Dude101]

Man lets go fins.

F the jets and dirty sanchez.

[The Guardian]

WOO HOO, WAY TO GO TEDDY GINN!!!:applaud:applaud:applaud

[Kane52630]

we will come back, you watch

[Fresh Prince]

Who was the celebs? Think one of them was Gabrielle Union.

[omid17]

About time he did something. Sorry *****.

Man lets go fins.

F the jets and dirty sanchez.:up:

[omid17]

Who was the celebs? Think one of them was Gabrielle Union.they got a gang of celebs kicking with the owners

[Dude101]

Never mind I need Sanchez to get a td so I can win fantasy.

[Dark Helmet]

Never mind I need Sanchez to get a td so I can win fantasy.

Traitor Fantasy Bastard

[Dude101]

I cant take a loss two weeks straight. I would be 3-2 and I just cant take that.

[omid17]

what a ******** call

[Kane52630]

Right back at ya ***** lol

:hehe:

[The Chris]

Bad call, GOOD TD! Refs sure suck!

[Dark Donnie]

Bad call on that pass int. IMO.

[Dude101]

**** you Edwards that score gives me the win if you catch it.

[Fresh Prince]

And my grandad said the NFL games not exciting no more.

[StorminNorman]

This entire Hispanic Month Sanchez sale is utterly disgusting. The refs have bailed out Sanchez three times now.

[Fresh Prince]

This entire Hispanic Month Sanchez sale is utterly disgusting. The refs have bailed out Sanchez three times now.

Wish the african american refs did that for the Super Bowl game in 05 with the Eagles for black history month. :hehe:

[Dark Helmet]

Like I said overtime

[Fresh Prince]

This was a great game tonight.....Sounds like the announce team having a blast aswell.

[Raiden]

Where's Jets' D? :confused:

[Dude101]

I got the Miami kicker so get me three and Sanchez wins it for me now or in overtime.

[Dark Helmet]

Where's Jets' D? :confused:

To focused on finding something to eat when they sit down

[Mister J]

Get in the bleeping end zone.

[Raiden]

Don't let me down D!!!

[Kane52630]

Come on JETS

[Kane52630]

Sob!!!!

[omid17]

Like I said overtimeguess i was right

Sob!!!!
:hehe:

[Raiden]

:doh:

[Mister J]

Wildcat for the win!

Gutsy call. There's no way the FG team gets on the field if Ronnie doesn't get in.

[Raiden]

Jets' D can't stop a granny from crossing a busy street tonite.

[Dark Helmet]

Sob!!!!

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/2374240/img/2374240.png

[StorminNorman]

Why don't the Dolphins run the Wildcat as much on non-MNF games? The Phins live and die by the Cat.

[StorminNorman]

Also, Henne vastly outperformed Sanchez. Of course ESPN didn't notice.

[Dude101]

Dammit I loss. I can take solace that most of my players were on bye.

[Darthphere]

Wildcat for the win!

Gutsy call. There's no way the FG team gets on the field if Ronnie doesn't get in.

Um....they had a timeout left.:huh:

[omid17]

Also, Henne vastly outperformed Sanchez. Of course ESPN didn't notice.
agreed

[Raiden]

It's funny that Jets lost against Saints due to their turnovers on offense, and now this game it's the defense that let the team down.

[Kane52630]

we'll get them back

[FaT_tONle]

That was the most entertaining game I have seen this year. That wild cat is unbelievable. Their schedule will keep them out of the playoffs, but the Dolphins are fun to watch. As a casual Jet fan, I have to say, Miami deserved to win the game. Embarassed Rex Ryan and that D.

[Darthphere]

Also, Henne vastly outperformed Sanchez. Of course ESPN didn't notice.

I think they started to turn towards Henne favor there at the end.

[Raiden]

Also, Henne vastly outperformed Sanchez. Of course ESPN didn't notice.

Henne did better than Sanchez tonight, but Sanchez wasn't bad himself, and he redeemed himself from last week's debacle.

[Mister J]

Um....they had a timeout left.:huh:
I could have sworn they said they they were out. Oh well. My head hurts.

[The Guardian]

WOW JUST WOW,:eek::eek::eek: what an awesome game, way to go Dolphins WOO HOO, congratz, way to go guys!!!:awesome::awesome::awesome::up:

[Dude101]

**** the jets and crappy team,

[StorminNorman]

Henne did better than Sanchez tonight, but Sanchez wasn't bad himself, and he redeemed himself from last week's debacle.

Tonight was more about Braylon Edwards and less about Sanchez. Sanchez had a few nice plays, but he kept putting the ball in bad spots and starring down receivers.

Sanchez's offense needed two fake punts and three terrible huge penalties to keep up with Miami.

[StorminNorman]

I wish Miami played on Monday Night every night. Watching Miami's Prime Time offense is so much fun.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm171/daimario813/WILDCAT.jpg

[Darthphere]

I can't stand Mark Sanchez cockiness. Stop the fist pumping please.

[Raiden]

Tonight was more about Braylon Edwards and less about Sanchez. Sanchez had a few nice plays, but he kept putting the ball in bad spots and starring down receivers.

Sanchez's offense needed two fake punts and three terrible huge penalties to keep up with Miami.

While that may be true, I would also argue that Miami's success on offense has more to do with their Wildcat than with Henne.

[StorminNorman]

That goes without a doubt, but Henne was much better with the short passing game which is key to managing a game.

[FaT_tONle]

Sanchez was great tonight. Guess people want a rookie to look like Brady. Fact is, Henne is a veteran who is supposed to manage the game like that and make smart decisions. Sanchez is a playmaker as was evident tonight. And let's not forget the Jets getting jobbed with that phantom intentional grounding either. The pass interference helped Miami get the ball with more time. Jets could have milked it down had that call not been made there. Everything is relative.

[StorminNorman]

Sanchez was great tonight. Guess people want a rookie to look like Brady. Fact is, Henne is a veteran who is supposed to manage the game like that and make decisions. Sanchez is a playmaker as was evident tonight. And let's not forget the Jets getting jobbed with that phantom intentional grounding either. The pass interference helped Miami get the ball with more time. Jets could have milked it down had that call not been made there. Everything is relative.

You are really using the "Henne is a veteran, he should be better card?" :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Henne may have spent a year on the bench, but Sanchez has more starts.

Complaining about the Jets being "jobbed" with penalties is equally laughable. For one, Sanchez wasn't throwing to a wide receiver, was in the tackle box and throwing the ball away to avoid a sack - it was text book intentional grounding.

The Jets had the refs in their pocket and the Dolphins still won.

[FaT_tONle]

You are really using the "Henne is a veteran, he should be better card?" :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Henne may have spent a year on the bench, but Sanchez has more starts.

Complaining about the Jets being "jobbed" with penalties is laughable. For one, Sanchez wasn't throwing to a wide receiver, was in the tackle box and throwing the ball away to avoid a sack - it was text book intentional grounding.

The Jets had the refs in their pocket and the Dolphins still won.

We get it Norman... your a Sanchez hater... you need to justify the Stafford pick. It's not the first time we have seen a QB with a year on the bench come in and look like a veteran. We saw it from Pennington. We saw it from Rogers. Smart QB's can step in quickly. What Sanchez was able to do with those throws tonight just shows me this guy can be every bit as good as a Roethelisberger or Romo once he becomes more polished.

[StorminNorman]

We get it Norman... your a Sanchez hater... you need to justify the Stafford pick. It's not the first time we have seen a QB with a year on the bench come in and look like a veteran. We saw it from Pennington. We saw it from Rogers. Smart QB's can step in quickly. What Sanchez was able to do with those throws tonight just shows me this guy can be every bit as good as a Roethelisberger or Romo once he becomes more polished.

Sanchez will likely be a good NFL QB, what I hate is the hype around him. Sanchez has played decently, and was able to avoid mistakes his first three games - but he cost the Jets against the Saints and was out played today.

Comparing Sanchez to Roethelisberger is kinda bizarre considering the two are completely different QB's. Roethliberger is a large QB with tremendous power and a big, strong arm. Even the biggest Sanchez lover couldn't use those words to describe him. Roethlisberger compares to Josh Freeman or Joe Flacco, not Sanchez (or Stafford).

I actually like the Romo comparison.

The simple reality is that Sanchez has come in and played well, but has not played as well as the hype around him.

[FaT_tONle]

Sanchez will likely be a good NFL QB, what I hate is the hype around him. Sanchez has played decently, and was able to avoid mistakes his first three games - but he cost the Jets against the Saints and was out played today.

Comparing Sanchez to Roethelisberger is kinda bizarre considering the two are completely different QB's. Roethliberger is a large QB with tremendous power and a big, strong arm. Even the biggest Sanchez lover couldn't use those words to describe him. Roethlisberger compares to Josh Freeman or Joe Flacco, not Sanchez (or Stafford).

I actually like the Romo comparison.

The simple reality is that Sanchez has come in and played well, but has not played as well as the hype around him.

The Hype comes from being in New York, the movie star looks, the GQ magazines, the first unbelievably promising latino American (that I can remember) having success at the QB position, and plenty other things. Jets haven't had a guy as polarizing as this since Willie Joe. Just put away the indignation you have for the guy and let Jet fans embrace this guy.

[Dark Donnie]

While we always don't agree Tonie....I will agree with you that some in here do have some unnecessary hate towards Sanchez. He's played pretty good thus far this season and he does deserve some credit.

[Raiden]

Sanchez will likely be a good NFL QB, what I hate is the hype around him. Sanchez has played decently, and was able to avoid mistakes his first three games - but he cost the Jets against the Saints and was out played today.

Comparing Sanchez to Roethelisberger is kinda bizarre considering the two are completely different QB's. Roethliberger is a large QB with tremendous power and a big, strong arm. Even the biggest Sanchez lover couldn't use those words to describe him. Roethlisberger compares to Josh Freeman or Joe Flacco, not Sanchez (or Stafford).

I actually like the Romo comparison.

The simple reality is that Sanchez has come in and played well, but has not played as well as the hype around him.

I think the hype comes from the fact that Sanchez was picked #5 in the draft, and he's playing for a New York team. Obviously the expectation will be high, and every wins and loses will be magnified. Safford is with the Lions, so he has much lower expectation and more leeway than Sanchez. However, except for the Saints game, Sanchez has done pretty well and despite Henne outplayed him tonight, he has improved greatly from last week's game.

[StorminNorman]

The Hype comes from being in New York, the movie star looks, the GQ magazines, the first unbelievably promising latino American (that I can remember) having success at the QB position, and plenty other things. Jets haven't had a guy as polarizing as this since Willie Joe. Just put away the indignation you have for the guy and let Jet fans embrace this guy.

I call a spade a spade. When Sanchez plays up to the hype, then I won't call him overrated. That doesn't change the fact that Sanchez is the most overrated player of 2009.

Rookies (like Stafford, like Harvin, like Oher) deserve to be recognize for out playing him thus far this season.

[Go Web Go!]

Ah, that win felt good. I'll be sleeping well tonight. :up:

[StorminNorman]

I think the hype comes from the fact that Sanchez was picked #5 in the draft, and he's playing for a New York team. Obviously the expectation will be high, and every wins and loses will be magnified. Safford is with the Lions, so he has much lower expectation and more leeway than Sanchez. However, except for the Saints game, Sanchez has done pretty well and despite Henne outplayed him tonight, he has improved greatly from last week's game.

No, what improved was the receiving corps.

[Dark Donnie]

How has Stafford outplayed Sanchez? Aside from Yards, Sanchez has more TD's, less Int's, and a better QB rating.

[StorminNorman]

How has Stafford outplayed Sanchez?

By...outplaying him :huh:

Look at Stafford's performances against Washington and Chicago, he was outstanding. He moved defenders with his eyes, he led drives of 90+ yards, he didn't once throw a ball where he shouldn't have.

Stafford's biggest problem has been playing against an incredibly daunting schedule.

The record of the opponents he lost to are a combined 13-1.

Stafford has played like a legit NFL starting QB this season. Sanchez has played like a poised, promising rookie. That's the difference.

[Bunker]

I guess that's why the Lions are 1-4 and the Jets are 3-2 and tied for the division lead, right?

[StorminNorman]

I guess that's why the Lions are 1-4 and the Jets are 3-2 and tied for the division lead, right?

:doh:

Do I need to point out the fact that the Lions are a significantly worse team than the Jets or is that so blatantly obvious that this post doesn't need a real response? Better play at the QB position doesn't change the fact that the Jets were a playoff caliber team last year and the Lions were 0-16.

The Lions are making significant strides (tremendous production from their draft class already), but they aren't close to the Jets yet. Which, again, is quite obvious.

[Mastodon123]

With the way Stafford played against Chicago, the game in Green Bay should be a good one. Hopefully the 2nd half blues don't come around in another away game.

[StorminNorman]

I like the improvement I saw on special teams last week. Stafford will give the Lions a chance to win, if he plays.

[Kane52630]

watching Curb your Enthusiasm cheered me up after this loss

[Mastodon123]

I like the improvement I saw on special teams last week. Stafford will give the Lions a chance to win, if he plays.They need to give Derrick Williams more playing time as a receiver. I liked what I saw from him in the preseason and the Steelers game. I guess he was in Schwartz's doghouse for dropping punts and returns. He is defiantly better than Aaron Brown in the return game.</p>

[StorminNorman]

If we can get production out of Williams, our draft class is looking fantastic.

Stafford, Pettigrew, Delmas and Levy have all made impact. Hill is an opening day starter and Aaron Brown is a nice change of pace back.

[Mastodon123]

If we can get production out of Williams, our draft class is looking fantastic.

Stafford, Pettigrew, Delmas and Levy have all made impact. Hill is an opening day starter and Aaron Brown is a nice change of pace back.

Since Sims has taken Levy's spot on the bench, I wouldn't be surprised if hes traded in the offseason if Levy keeps playing the way he is.

[SuperJediHero]

:woot: WOOT Dolphins BEAT the Jets!!!!!! :woot: :D :cool::grin:

[BigSams50]

I call a spade a spade. When Sanchez plays up to the hype, then I won't call him overrated. That doesn't change the fact that Sanchez is the most overrated player of 2009.

Rookies (like Stafford, like Harvin, like Oher) deserve to be recognize for out playing him thus far this season.

You do Realize that Mark Sanchez has better numbers thn stafford right? More Passing yards, less INT's, more TD's, better completion percentage, better passer rating. How has stafford out played him?

[Ace of Knaves]

Plus you could argue that Stafford has a top, top target in Calvin Johnson. Whereas Sanchez doesn't. Well now Braylon is there and he had a good game yesterday.

But it's all irrelevant really, neither of them are on the level that Matt Ryan was last year :D

[FaT_tONle]

I call a spade a spade. When Sanchez plays up to the hype, then I won't call him overrated. That doesn't change the fact that Sanchez is the most overrated player of 2009.

Rookies (like Stafford, like Harvin, like Oher) deserve to be recognize for out playing him thus far this season.

1) Once Stafford's team starts winning team, then we can talk about him.

2) Harvin is a thug and deserves no more than five minutes of press each week.

3) How many NFL players get their own movie biopic?

[BigSams50]

^ Matt Ryans rookie year was in a class of its own lol, but to say stafford has outplayed sanchez is rediculous. Sanchez has been playin good, yea he struggled against the saints but thts gonna happen for a rookie

[StorminNorman]

You do Realize that Mark Sanchez has better numbers thn stafford right? More Passing yards, less INT's, more TD's, better completion percentage, better passer rating. How has stafford out played him?

You can't judge performance based simply on stats, that's not what football is about - this isn't baseball, performance isn't black and white. Watch the games, the better QB is obvious.

Plus you could argue that Stafford has a top, top target in Calvin Johnson. Whereas Sanchez doesn't. Well now Braylon is there and he had a good game yesterday.

But it's all irrelevant really, neither of them are on the level that Matt Ryan was last year :D

You really want to argue that SANCHEZ is the victim of lesser talent around him?

1) Once Stafford's team starts winning team, then we can talk about him.

2) Harvin is a thug and deserves no more than five minutes of press each week.

3) How many NFL players get their own movie biopic?

^ Matt Ryans rookie year was in a class of its own lol, but to say stafford has outplayed sanchez is rediculous. Sanchez has been playin good, yea he struggled against the saints but thts gonna happen for a rookie

LOL yes, it's rediculous.

Ridiculous, though? Not at all. Simply the truth.

[Erzengel]

Rex Ryan said it in his post game interview, the defense was embarrassed. For the type of game Sanchez had yesterday, all the defense had to do was hold the offense.

[Ace of Knaves]

You really want to argue that SANCHEZ is the victim of lesser talent around him?


No, just saying that Stafford has bonafide tagets to aim at. Sanchez hasn't up until the arrival of Edwards.

[FaT_tONle]

You really want to argue that SANCHEZ is the victim of lesser talent around him?

Don't compare them then if you make that argument. You can't use outside variables to compare two individuals. Sanchez has better numbers thus far and that's the only thing we can go by. Whatever you are supposedly "seeing" in these games is simply your bias and subjectiveness.

[BigSams50]

Don't compare them then if you make that argument. You can't use outside variables to compare two individuals. Sanchez has better numbers thus far and that's the only thing we can go by. Whatever you are supposedly "seeing" in these games is simply your bias and subjectiveness.

Exactly, you cant say "well your qb has better stats but mine is really playing better" it makes no sense

[SurfDUI]

So who's lookin for real in the American Football Confrence boys?

And Yes, its a rhetorical Question...

After the BYE your COLTS face the greatest show on turf on the road. They will be 6-0 by the time Mike Singletary comes to Lucas Oil

...Is it playoff time yet?

[FaT_tONle]

We all know Indy will start resting after Thanksgiving and get knocked out by a team in the first round so what's the point really?

[Excel]

Also, Henne vastly outperformed Sanchez. Of course ESPN didn't notice.

I dunno, they had him on after the game livbe and Merrill Hodge was messin his pants when he talked abotu Henes performance.

[BlackLantern]

yea...ESPN was very generous with their praise of Henne

[Excel]

DHB shows of his breathetaking speed...:hehe:

pYDsVY_J6Cc

[Kane52630]

DHB shows of his breathetaking speed...:hehe:

pYDsVY_J6Cc

:up:

[Addendum]

DHB shows of his breathetaking speed...:hehe:

pYDsVY_J6Cc

The massive weight of the football slows him down

[Dr. Evil]

Colts Owner pans Limbaugh as possible Rams owner:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/13/colts-irsay-pans-limbaugh-ownership-involvement/

[Raiden]

The massive weight of the football slows him down

I bet the sides of his abdomen hurt after this little "exercise". :hehe:

[BlackLantern]

The massive weight of the football slows him down

the football was greasy from JaMarcus pregame snack

[Erzengel]

I missed that game because I had to go to a party, however, it really shows that Oakland gave up early in that game.

[Raiden]

I missed that game because I had to go to a party, however, it really shows that Oakland gave up early in that game.

I won't be surprised if Raiders players already gave up this season; it's easy to do when you know the success of your team tied to JaTubby Russell. :wall:

[Addendum]

the football was greasy from JaMarcus pregame snack

Someone mentioned "pigskin" in earshot of him and he thought "oooo giant cracklin" and began to eat the ball

[Immortalfire]

Colts Owner pans Limbaugh as possible Rams owner:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/13/colts-irsay-pans-limbaugh-ownership-involvement/

Al Sharpton also said NO to Rush owning the Rams. Thus, I say YES to Rush owning the Rams.

[Erzengel]

The Michael Kay show asked Steve Young if JaMarcus Russell was that bad or was it the team he was on. Young essentially said it's the team and that Russell has talent but since he was threw into the franchise qb role he hasn't had the opportunity to hone those talents.

[Ace of Knaves]

The Raiders knack of getting rid of coaches after one year must not help his development either.

[BlackLantern]

JaFattys season stats:

51 passes completed

121 passes attempted

%42.1 completion

1 Touchdown

4 INT

606 yards

[Immortalfire]

The Raiders knack of getting rid of coaches after one year must not help his development either.

With Al Davis, you get one...MAYBE two years to win a Super Bowl. If not, yer butt is out the door.

[Erzengel]

Plus let's face it, he was a 3rd/4th round pick. I think the person more surprised than most of us that he was picked first was him. :o

[Erzengel]

Al Davis must be rolling around in his grave and the current incarnation of the Raiders. :csad:

[Raiden]

Will Al Davis, you get one...MAYBE two years to win a Super Bowl. If not, yer butt is out the door.

I wish Al Davis would exert the same standard on himself.

[BlackLantern]

Peyton Mannings season stats:

133 passes completed

181 passes attempted

%73.5 completion

12 Touchdowns

4 INT

1,645 total yards

[BlackLantern]

edit...I fail

[Addendum]

SuBes' point is that socialized medicine has just as many problems and issues as the US system does

Wrong thread :awesome:

[Immortalfire]

Fail :hehe:

[FaT_tONle]

I just heard T.O to the Bears by the deadline... anyone hear anything? I am thinking a 6th... maybe a conditional 5th would do it. If I am the Bears I need to make a move. The conference is loaded with Atl, Philli, Dal all in second or third place and Minnesota is already miles ahead.

[Spider-Fan]

I called the Bills losing to the Browns :o

Though it was one of the WORST games I have ever seen in my life. Both teams sucked hard, and should be ashamed of their performances.

Good weekend for football overall though. Got to watch two of the seasons best games in back to back days (Pats/Broncos and Jets/Phins) :up:

[Erzengel]

I heard that that would probably be a good place for T.O. to go.

Wild Card in the NFC is going to be competitive this year. Atlanta, Philly and Chicago probably all battling it out. Have my doubts of Arizona and Dallas.

[Raiden]

I just heard T.O to the Bears by the deadline... anyone hear anything? I am thinking a 6th... maybe a conditional 5th would do it. If I am the Bears I need to make a move. The conference is loaded with Atl, Philli, Dal all in second or third place and Minnesota is already miles ahead.

I'm not sure if Cutler would want a personality like T.O. in the locker room, esp. one who had volatile relationship with QBs in the past (Garcia, McNabb, Romo). But perhaps Bears think this is their year and they must make a move for a big-time receiver.

[Addendum]

I do not want TO on the Bears

[Alex The Great]

Well, the Denver Lemons beat the pats, oh well. Man, Brady needs to work on his throwing. Big time. He misses Moss with a sure TD and we lose. ugh!

Bengals are legit! I hope they to go to the Superbowl!

Browns Bills game was.....wow....:doh:

Chad Henne is decent? Who dat?

And what in gods name were the Broncos wearing? they looked like walking puke stains out there. I almost felt like changing the channel!

[Raiden]

And what in gods name were the Broncos wearing? they looked like walking puke stains out there. I almost felt like changing the channel!

Broncos' throwback uniform is easily the worst throwback ever.

[omid17]

same colors of **** and piss :up:

[BlackLantern]

Broncos' throwback uniform is easily the worst throwback ever.

They won in those....

[Addendum]

Broncos' throwback uniform is easily the worst throwback ever.

They got rid of those colors after 2 years. The Padres kept it for 12

[omid17]

Report: LB Seau re-signs with Patriots (AP) (http://m.www.yahoo.com/_ylt=At31uaX0MRawz5bG7W10UGKbvZx4/SIG=12j9761qe/**http%3A//sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news%3Fslug=ap-patriots-seau%26prov=ap%26type=lgns)

:up:

[Immortalfire]

same colors of **** and piss :up:

Right on.

[Excel]

I just heard T.O to the Bears by the deadline.

That would be hilarious. The T.O.'s and fans awaiting his airport sure would have been moot.

[Mister J]

The Broncos should just wear the old school Orange Crush uniforms and call it a day. Damn this AFL tribute stuff in their case. That crap they wore made me appreciate all 18 ****ty versions of the Oregon Ducks' unis.

[omid17]

Right on.damn it man i always wanted to get Mr. Bucket, my parents never got it :waa:

[Immortalfire]

We're trying to get him to be a sponsor on the Hype Cast

[Erzengel]

I'm Mr. Bucket, toss your balls in my top
I'm Mr. Bucket, out of my mouth they will pop
I'm Mr. Bucket, we're all gonna run
I'm Mr. Bucket, buckets of fun!
I'm Mr. Bucket, balls pop out of my mouth
I'm Mr. Bucket, a ball is what I'm about
I'm Mr. Bucket, we're all gonna run
I'm Mr. Bucket, buckets of fun!
What type of show are you running? :csad: :huh:

[omid17]

We're trying to get him to be a sponsor on the Hype Cast
nice

[Kaleb]

Thought this was interesting but the redskins have yet to face a team w/a win and won't til week 7 when they play the eagles.

giants 0-0(ok, a technicality being the first game)
rams 0-1
lions 0-2
tampa 0-3
panthers 0-4

and this week they play the chiefs at 0-5.

as bad as things have been for the skins, they're gonna get much worse.

[SuperJediHero]

Great game this week

Giants Vs Saints!!! (Vikings Vs Ravens, Broncos vs. Chargers, Falcons Vs Bears)

Great game Next week

Saints AT Dolphins!!! :D

[Erzengel]

Well the Redskins can't seem to score points.

It's also funny that that's a lot of the criticism I'm hearing about the Giants, aside from when the Cowboys who were (1-0), all the teams the Giants have beaten had losing records. But, the thing that should be noted were they seemed to have manhandled them which is a sign of being a better team.

The next 6 games should be interesting, although it's 4 and a bye. I can see the Giants winning at the very least 4 of those games. :up:

[The Chris]

the Giants didn't make the schedule. I always hated the schedule as an excuse to hate on a team.

And Like you said, they've beaten the heck out of these teams.

[E-Man]

Report: LB Seau re-signs with Patriots (AP) (http://m.www.yahoo.com/_ylt=At31uaX0MRawz5bG7W10UGKbvZx4/SIG=12j9761qe/**http%3A//sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news%3Fslug=ap-patriots-seau%26prov=ap%26type=lgns)

:up:

Again?!:wow:

[Erzengel]

I think Bruschi screwed the Patriots in the pre-season by leaving, I don't think they would have let go of Seymour. Mayo's hurt. Grabel was part of that Cassel trade. Hobbs being traded and Harrison retiring. Really there are like no veterans on that team and a bunch of rookies. That's why they probably signed Seau again. If you have a decent offense, you are going to score against them.

[Immortalfire]

What type of show are you running? :csad: :huh:

The kind of show that's a bucket 'o fun!

[Kaleb]

Mark Clayton just popped up on facebook chat, should I berate him for having 2 crappy games :(

[Mister J]

Thought this was interesting but the redskins have yet to face a team w/a win and won't til week 7 when they play the eagles.

Interesting. The Patriots have yet to play a team that wasn't undefeated. Of course, that'll change this week with the Titans.

[Kaleb]

Interesting. The Patriots have yet to play a team that wasn't undefeated. Of course, that'll change this week with the Titans.

good point, btw Ive slowly begun to develope a man crush on Chad Henne .

[Raiden]

good point, btw Ive slowly begun to develope a man crush on Chad Henne .

Like Sanchez, it's still too early to tell whether he'll be a really good QB or not, or just an average one. Next week vs the Saints will be a good test.

[Spider-Fan]

The Patriots will be fine. The defense has a lot of players who didn't get playing time like this, and Brady still needs time to get back to where he was. By the end of the season, I bet the Pats will be in top form and strong force heading into the AFC playoffs. They just need time, and they have played pretty much nothing but good teams so far. Despite their problems, they are 3-2. I think they'll be fine, but the AFC East is a very interesting division. I think the Dolphins may end up winning it. I see the Jets trailing off a bit in the 2nd half of the season, like last year, and the Dolphins are only getting better. Since the Pats need time to come together, the Dolphins have a great chance to take advantage only 1 game back of both the Pats and Jets. The Jets I think will need to depend more on Sanchez late than the Dolphins will Henne, cause the Dolphins have the Wildcat which takes pressure off Henne, while Sanchez is being challenged right now to beat teams cause the prime focus has been stop Jones/Washington. They don't have that Wildcat that takes pressure off Sanchez.

[Fresh Prince]

Lol T.O. trade rumors already? Not his fault the QB garbage.

Now T.O. can complain about his QB sucking.

[Spider-Fan]

Is anyone really surprised? I knew TO wasn't going to do much as a Bill. The Bills are not a passing team, and Trent Edwards is not a dynamic passer. He's a decent QB to have if you're running game is dominant, but the Bills are dominant at nothing right now. They are a mess, but I think trading TO may get Buffalo some young talent, which they desperately need. They need to retool a bit, cause they have no shot at competing in their division this season, and not likely in the next couple seasons. They need to retool in order to compete in that division eventually. They lack foundation and good coaching, which the other 3 teams in that division definately have.

[Raiden]

The Patriots will be fine. The defense has a lot of players who didn't get playing time like this, and Brady still needs time to get back to where he was. By the end of the season, I bet the Pats will be in top form and strong force heading into the AFC playoffs. They just need time, and they have played pretty much nothing but good teams so far. Despite their problems, they are 3-2. I think they'll be fine, but the AFC East is a very interesting division. I think the Dolphins may end up winning it. I see the Jets trailing off a bit in the 2nd half of the season, like last year, and the Dolphins are only getting better. Since the Pats need time to come together, the Dolphins have a great chance to take advantage only 1 game back of both the Pats and Jets. The Jets I think will need to depend more on Sanchez late than the Dolphins will Henne, cause the Dolphins have the Wildcat which takes pressure off Henne, while Sanchez is being challenged right now to beat teams cause the prime focus has been stop Jones/Washington. They don't have that Wildcat that takes pressure off Sanchez.

I disagree. I think both Pats and Jets will vy for the AFC East title in the end, and I think Dolphins may trail off at the end. I think as more teams get accustomed to Wildcat schemes, the Fins will have less success (I don't think they will repeat the same success they had last season). Pats will improve after Brady get over his rust, and Jets (with addition of Braylon Edwards) will be a stronger team, and their running game will improve once Sanchez & Edwards bring some threat to their passing game. However, with the exception of Bills, this division race should be very competitive this season.

[Fresh Prince]

Is anyone really surprised? I knew TO wasn't going to do much as a Bill. The Bills are not a passing team, and Trent Edwards is not a dynamic passer. He's a decent QB to have if you're running game is dominant, but the Bills are dominant at nothing right now. They are a mess, but I think trading TO may get Buffalo some young talent, which they desperately need. They need to retool a bit, cause they have no shot at competing in their division this season, and not likely in the next couple seasons. They need to retool in order to compete in that division eventually. They lack foundation and good coaching, which the other 3 teams in that division definately have.

Atleast T.O. might go to a playoff team.

[Kane52630]

http://i37.tinypic.com/24uzuoz.jpg

[The Chris]

That was stupid of him to do. Playing the intimidation game there was one reason why they lost. But it is cool to see over and over.

[Kane52630]

That was stupid of him to do. Playing the intimidation game there was one reason why they lost. But it is cool to see over and over.

yea, i can stop looking at it again and again
http://i37.tinypic.com/24uzuoz.jpg

[BlackLantern]

if anyone cares, ESPN has a documentary on called "The Band that wouldn't die"...its about when the Colts left Baltimore and how the local marching band stayed in the community and kept going even after the team left

[Raiden]

Jenkins: Defense didn't back up talk (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/backpage/jenkins_defense_didn_back_up_talk_HMIz9cfvi5ccfATQ vBp4qM)

I have to agree with Jenkins. I understand that Rex Ryan, despite all his genius at defense playcalling, is a loudmouth, but Jets players should shut it and let their game do the talking. At least this loss on MNF is making them realize that they must not only get better, but they should also talk less, at least Jenkins feels that way.

[StorminNorman]

No, just saying that Stafford has bonafide tagets to aim at. Sanchez hasn't up until the arrival of Edwards.

Cotchery is a very good receiver that has proven he can play without Coles, Leon Washington is a tremendous weapon out of the back field and Dustin Keller is a receiving TE.

Don't compare them then if you make that argument. You can't use outside variables to compare two individuals. Sanchez has better numbers thus far and that's the only thing we can go by. Whatever you are supposedly "seeing" in these games is simply your bias and subjectiveness.

How many Lions games have you watch? If you think the only way you can compare performance by stats, you are simply wrong. If you watch Stafford play QB, he looks like a veteran who can overthrow receivers (his biggest weakness). Sanchez looks like a rookie playing at a high level. It's all about the decisions they make on the field and how they play the maneuver the defense - stats don't reflect that.

Exactly, you cant say "well your qb has better stats but mine is really playing better" it makes no sense

If you understand football outside of Madden and Fantasy Football, it's quite easy.

Lol T.O. trade rumors already? Not his fault the QB garbage.

Now T.O. can complain about his QB sucking.

T.O. SHOULD be traded out of Buffalo. It has nothing to do with what he has done in Buffalo, but simply has everything to do with the fact that the Bills suck. Buffalo got T.O. to win games, Buffalo hasn't won (again, not his fault) - but since they are now playing for 2010, they should look to trade T.O. (who is on a one year contract and unlikely to return) and gain capital (draft picks) for the future.

[Raiden]

if anyone cares, ESPN has a documentary on called "The Band that wouldn't die"...its about when the Colts left Baltimore and how the local marching band stayed in the community and kept going even after the team left

I think the team name for Colts should've stayed at Baltimore, like what they did for Browns when the team moved out of Cleveland. Same goes for Cardinals and Rams as well.

[BlackLantern]

I think the team name for Colts should've stayed at Baltimore, like what they did for Browns when the team moved out of Cleveland. Same goes for Cardinals and Rams as well.

Bull. ****. the only reason the Browns name stayed in Cleveland was because the fans sued and it was a PR nightmare for the NFL and the franchise in general....

that's why I thought it was hilarious when Baltimore won the SB and Cleveland fans tried to claim that championship as theirs....

[bunk]

Looks like the Ravens did sign Tyree after all.

[Spider-Fan]

I disagree. I think both Pats and Jets will vy for the AFC East title in the end, and I think Dolphins may trail off at the end. I think as more teams get accustomed to Wildcat schemes, the Fins will have less success (I don't think they will repeat the same success they had last season). Pats will improve after Brady get over his rust, and Jets (with addition of Braylon Edwards) will be a stronger team, and their running game will improve once Sanchez & Edwards bring some threat to their passing game. However, with the exception of Bills, this division race should be very competitive this season.

The Wildcat has been around for over a year, and it hasn't been figured out yet. The Dolphins do a great job of changing up the scheme and making it hard to solve from week to week. The Jets added Braylon, but they are still being anchored by a rookie. At least Henne isn't being game planned for like Sanchez is, cause everyone is worrying about the Wildcat when playing Miami. This helps Henne immensely. Sanchez has a more traditional offense, and if the Jets need him to win them the game week in and week out, then they'll suffer. He can't do it every week.

It's a great race, but I see either the Pats or Dolphins winning it in the end. The Jets lack the disracting force to help Sanchez, and late in the season when the schedule gets more difficult, I think that will haunt the Jets. If they lose to Miami again in a couple of weeks, then the Jets are done (as far as the divisional race is concerned). They HAVE to win that game.

Atleast T.O. might go to a playoff team.

I think a team is going to get desperate for a WR and deal for him, despite ESPN saying a trade is unlikely.

[Addendum]

if anyone cares, ESPN has a documentary on called "The Band that wouldn't die"...its about when the Colts left Baltimore and how the local marching band stayed in the community and kept going even after the team left

I'm catching the replay on the Deuce

[omid17]

Dolphins RB Cobb out for season (AP) (http://m.www.yahoo.com/_ylt=AvZvRzAUyEgk5LWCx8umFzWbvZx4/SIG=12okcjl49/**http%3A//sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news%3Fslug=ap-dolphins-cobbshurt%26prov=ap%26type=lgns)

Cobbs led the Dolphins this season with 16 kickoff returns for a 22.6-yard average. His injury will mean more playing time for rookie Lex Hilliard (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8981/;_ylt=AismWRMUMjyWZbRR3TeZ.xcdsLYF)

[NewYorkSpider]

T.O. SHOULD be traded out of Buffalo. It has nothing to do with what he has done in Buffalo, but simply has everything to do with the fact that the Bills suck. Buffalo got T.O. to win games, Buffalo hasn't won (again, not his fault) - but since they are now playing for 2010, they should look to trade T.O. (who is on a one year contract and unlikely to return) and gain capital (draft picks) for the future.


The Bills should honestly be 3-2. If it wasn't for McKelvin's fumble late in the 4th during the Patriots game and Parrish's fumble late in the 4th in Sunday's game, they could have won those. They played great against New Orleans despite the final score. I watched the Dolphins game and they weren't prepared for it. It was like they had no game plan. Injuries are gonna cost them now.

[Poeman]

dissapointing loss for my jets...damn we have to turn it around next week against the bills

[Cmill216]

and Parrish's fumble late in the 4th in Sunday's game, they could have won those.

You don't score 3 points at home against a winless team, whilst allowing them to complete just two passes, and deserve to win a game.

[FaT_tONle]

I don't trust Rex and his D. Not to mention his clock management is Herm Edwardsesque. Did Rex coordinate the 2000 Ravens? Nonetheless, say what you want about the Raven defense, since 2000, that defense has always let them team down in big spots. Be it against the Colts, Titans, Steelers... their defense just doesn't come through when it matters the most. I am getting the same vibe with this Jet team. They better not get caught up in this whole who can outsmack the other in the papers/media game. With the exception of Revis and Harris, I don't see an all-pro player on that unit. Rest of their players are solid at best. Hardly championship calibur.

[NewYorkSpider]

You don't score 3 points at home against a winless team, whilst allowing them to complete just two passes, and deserve to win a game.


The wind was blowing over 40MPH in Buffalo. So it doesn't surprise me that a team had only two complete passes. Cleveland ran the ball most of the time since Buffalo has one of the worst rush defenses. Most of Trent Edwards' passes came to Lynch and Jackson, which were usually just 5YD passes that became huge gains. It also doesn't help when you start back of your own 20yd line over 8 times. Yeah, the game was ugly, but there were other factors in play here.

[bunk]

Nonetheless, say what you want about the Raven defense, since 2000, that defense has always let them team down in big spots. Be it against the Colts, Titans, Steelers... their defense just doesn't come through when it matters the most.

Of course they let the team down in big spots, name a defense that doesn't. Mostly because it's almost always been up to them to get the win. They are still consistently at the top when it comes to limiting 3rd downs, 4th downs, and red zone success. This is where "big spots" occur.

[Mastodon123]

TO is isn't getting traded, just typical ESPN ********.

[Go Web Go!]

Dolphins RB Cobb out for season (AP) (http://m.www.yahoo.com/_ylt=AvZvRzAUyEgk5LWCx8umFzWbvZx4/SIG=12okcjl49/**http%3A//sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news%3Fslug=ap-dolphins-cobbshurt%26prov=ap%26type=lgns)

Sucks. He hasn't done all that much this season, but he was pretty effective last year.

[StorminNorman]

The Bills should honestly be 3-2. If it wasn't for McKelvin's fumble late in the 4th during the Patriots game and Parrish's fumble late in the 4th in Sunday's game, they could have won those. They played great against New Orleans despite the final score. I watched the Dolphins game and they weren't prepared for it. It was like they had no game plan. Injuries are gonna cost them now.

Buffalo isn't terrible, but the hole they're in is too deep. Their coach is a lame duck and that bodes well.

[BigSams50]

If you understand football outside of Madden and Fantasy Football, it's quite easy.


Oh i understand football, and all i see is a stafford fan saying he's better than sanchez. Ima jets fan so i have some bias, youre a stafford(not sure if youre a lions fan or not) and you also have some bias.

[Raiden]

I don't trust Rex and his D. Not to mention his clock management is Herm Edwardsesque. Did Rex coordinate the 2000 Ravens? Nonetheless, say what you want about the Raven defense, since 2000, that defense has always let them team down in big spots. Be it against the Colts, Titans, Steelers... their defense just doesn't come through when it matters the most. I am getting the same vibe with this Jet team. They better not get caught up in this whole who can outsmack the other in the papers/media game. With the exception of Revis and Harris, I don't see an all-pro player on that unit. Rest of their players are solid at best. Hardly championship calibur.

Well, Jets' D played solid in the first 4 games, and their only hiccup came against the Fins and their Wildcat schemes. I won't rule them out yet, and I don't think it was a fluke when their defense was ranked #1 in the league. However, there is still many games to play, and it remains to be seen whether Ryan's defensive unit is legit or not. Judging by his comments after the loss to Miami, he sounded like he (and the rest of the team) got really peeved by the outcome, and I think they have a desire to redeem themselves in upcoming weeks. Having Bills and Raiders as their next two opponents should help with that.

Btw, you only listed Revis and Harris, but how about Jenkins and Pace? These two are also stellar defensive players.

[Fresh Prince]

TO is isn't getting traded, just typical ESPN ********.

Yeah I think T.O. will be a Bill the rest of the season.

[Dark Donnie]

Btw, you only listed Revis and Harris, but how about Jenkins and Pace? These two are also stellar defensive players.

Kerry Rhodes as well

[Fresh Prince]

If T.O. does get traded were he goes too?

[Kaleb]

Da Bears

[Dr. Evil]

Dolphins have new minority owner:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/10/nfl-owners-approve-fergie-as-a-limited-partner-for-dolphins/1

[Erzengel]

Dolphins have new minority owner:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/10/nfl-owners-approve-fergie-as-a-limited-partner-for-dolphins/1
I thought Fergie was white? :huh:

[BlackLantern]

I don't like it but in a city like Miami, people don't give a **** unless celebrities are attached to something so I get it

[Mister J]

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/5977/jokerpalm.png (http://img115.imageshack.us/i/jokerpalm.png/)

[Immortalfire]

Maybe some celebs should latch onto the Marlins, and bring a few fans to their games.

[BlackLantern]

the Marlins aren't "trendy" enough right now

[Dr. Evil]

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/5977/jokerpalm.png (http://img115.imageshack.us/i/jokerpalm.png/)

That would be the reaction of Parcells.

[BlackLantern]

I believe the trade deadline is today 6 pm EST...or is it next Wednesday?

[Raiden]

I thought Fergie was white? :huh:

Yeah, she is (her real name is Stacy Ferguson). Does she live in Florida?

[Erzengel]

Thought it was next Tuesday.

[Kane52630]

That would be the reaction of Parcells.

more like Mangini :hehe:

[Matt]

Why is it everyone *****es when Favre comes out of retirement, but when Seau does it for the sixth hundreth time not a word?

[Dr. Evil]

Why is it everyone *****es when Favre comes out of retirement, but when Seau does it for the sixth hundreth time not a word?

Because of how the media treats Favre compared to Seau.

[Kane52630]

who is Seau?

......
jk :hehe:

[BlackLantern]

Why is it everyone *****es when Favre comes out of retirement, but when Seau does it for the sixth hundreth time not a word?

because Seau isn't a quarterback

[Mister J]

Junior also doesn't make an annual showing of crocodile tears, citing his retirement or questioning if he wants to play, only to (predictably) flake out the next season, acting like a prima donna in the process.

[FaT_tONle]

Btw, you only listed Revis and Harris, but how about Jenkins and Pace? These two are also stellar defensive players.

Pace is a douche. Overpaid and overrated. Cardinals get rid of him and they go to the Superbowl the following year. That shows you his value right there. Jenkins is too fat and inconsistent. He wears down. We saw it in the Superbowl against the Pats. We saw it last year. We saw it last Monday. Revis and Harris are the only gamers. And the OL has underacheived, which is inexcusable considering the talent level. Tannenbaum needs to stop relying on the sexy splash in free agency and he needs to start building through the draft. That's how all winning teams do it. He won't be able to resign the core guys if he continues down this trend.

[Nightmare]

heh, no comparison really.

[Fresh Prince]

Da Bears

Be funny if he goes to Detroit.

[Raiden]

Pace is a douche. Overpaid and overrated. Cardinals get rid of him and they go to the Superbowl the following year. That shows you his value right there. Jenkins is too fat and inconsistent. He wears down. We saw it in the Superbowl against the Pats. We saw it last year. We saw it last Monday. Revis and Harris are the only gamers. And the OL has underacheived, which is inexcusable considering the talent level. Tannenbaum needs to stop relying on the sexy splash in free agency and he needs to start building through the draft. That's how all winning teams do it. He won't be able to resign the core guys if he continues down this trend.

As a NT, Jenkins is the anchor of Jets' 3-4 formation and I don't think he's passed his prime yet, but if teams torched Jets again like what Fins did then we will have to start questioning them. I do agree that Tannenbaum needs to do a better job with the draft instead of trading them to the Browns for players, like what they've been doing for Sanchez and Edwards.

[omid17]

Steelers DE Smith to miss rest of season (AP) (http://m.www.yahoo.com/_ylt=As6zjP_fSt1YsiUYawxKX4qbvZx4/SIG=12k7ospc4/**http%3A//sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news%3Fslug=ap-steelers-smith%26prov=ap%26type=lgns)


Browns say they're not shopping QB Quinn (AP) (http://m.www.yahoo.com/_ylt=AlpyA2fs9Ip9fHGprsPo._abvZx4/SIG=12ilr57ln/**http%3A//sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news%3Fslug=ap-browns-quinn%26prov=ap%26type=lgns)


Colts K Vinatieri to miss 4-8 weeks (AP) (http://m.www.yahoo.com/_ylt=AuLvPl6qraqpDdfkuX7_1SqbvZx4/SIG=12huauqed/**http%3A//sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news%3Fslug=ap-coltsunrest%26prov=ap%26type=lgns)

[Go Web Go!]

I don't like it but in a city like Miami, people don't give a **** unless celebrities are attached to something so I get it

Right. Celebrity minority owners put people in the seats, not good teams. Makes sense.

[BlackLantern]

Right. Celebrity minority owners put people in the seats, not good teams. Makes sense.

the teams in Florida have to try something....the Dolphins have had OK attendance, hell the Marlins weren't selling out the years they were competitive...I remember during the NLCS the stadium would only be about 60-70 percent full....I don't see the big deal, its not like they are making personnel decision or anything like that....

thats why I sad "a city like Miami" because there is plenty of other **** to do besides go to the football game

[Erzengel]

Well if you want to see a man perform as a woman... :o

[FaT_tONle]

As a NT, Jenkins is the anchor of Jets' 3-4 formation and I don't think he's passed his prime yet, but if teams torched Jets again like what Fins did then we will have to start questioning them. I do agree that Tannenbaum needs to do a better job with the draft instead of trading them to the Browns for players, like what they've been doing for Sanchez and Edwards.

I am not saying Jenkins is bad. They just need to find other ways to get the job done if he is either ineffective late in games or sitting on the bench. It's not that Mr. T has done a bad job wit the draft either; he brought in Keller, Revis, Harris, although Gholston is probably a bust. As you said, they just need to stockpile picks. They are still missing that elite pass rusher. On second thoughts, the Jets may want to package something for D. Ware or Merriman if the Cowboys/Chargers fall out of it and can't re-sign them in the offseason for whatever reason. Gholston and a 1st round pick could be enough... :woot:

[Boom]

I'm behind on this.

GOODBYE, Brad St. Louis. Your depature didn't come soon enough :awesome:.

[Darthphere]

I don't like it but in a city like Miami, people don't give a **** unless celebrities are attached to something so I get it

The Dolphins have always been popular in Miami. They almost always sell out their games, even during the bad years.:huh:

[BlackLantern]

so why the "celebrity ownership" ?? is it just a publicity grab for the team?? I don't know what the sports climate is really like because I don't really live down there

[Dark Donnie]

One figure I saw had Miami at 18 out of 32 teams in attendance.

[omid17]

ESPN 2009 NFL Power Rankings: Week 6




1 (1) Colts (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=ind) 5-0-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyg) 2 (2) Giants (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyg) 5-0-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=min) 3 (3) Vikings (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=min) 5-0-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nor) 4 (4) Saints (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nor) 4-0-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=den) 5 (8) Broncos (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=den) 5-0-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cin) 6 (11) Bengals (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cin) 4-1-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=phi) 7 (10) Eagles (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=phi) 3-1-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=atl) 8 (9) Falcons (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=atl) 3-1-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyj) 9 (5) Jets (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyj) 3-2-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nwe) 10 (6) Patriots (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nwe) 3-2-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=bal) 11 (7) Ravens (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=bal) 3-2-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=chi) 12 (14) Bears (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=chi) 3-1-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=pit) 13 (15) Steelers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=pit) 3-2-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=gnb) 14 (13) Packers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=gnb) 2-2-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=sfo) 15 (12) 49ers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=sfo) 3-2-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=sdg) 16 (16) Chargers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=sdg) 2-2-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=dal) 17 (17) Cowboys (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=dal) 3-2-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=mia) 18 (21) Dolphins (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=mia) 2-3-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=ari) 19 (19) Cardinals (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=ari) 2-2-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=sea) 20 (24) Seahawks (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=sea) 2-3-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=jac) 21 (18) Jaguars (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=jac) 2-3-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=hou) 22 (20) Texans (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=hou) 2-3-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=car) 23 (26) Panthers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=car) 1-3-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was) 24 (22) Redskins (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was) 2-3-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf) 25 (23) Bills (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf) 1-4-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=det) 26 (27) Lions (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=det) 1-4-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=ten) 27 (25) Titans (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=ten) 0-5-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cle) 28 (29) Browns (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cle) 1-4-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=oak) 29 (28) Raiders (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=oak) 1-4-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=kan) 30 (30) Chiefs (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=kan) 0-5-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=tam) 31 (31) Buccaneers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=tam) 0-5-0

(http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=stl) 32 (32) Rams (http://espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=stl) 0-5-0

[Go Web Go!]

so why the "celebrity ownership" ?? is it just a publicity grab for the team?? I don't know what the sports climate is really like because I don't really live down there

They have a new owner. He's heavy on glitz and the glam, so since taking majority control of the team he has added suites to the stadium with a club-feel, an orange carpet where fans can gather to see VIP guests enter, and of course selling bits and pieces of the team to celebrities. It has nothing to do with trying to boost attendance. Their attendance is fine (and even if it weren't I have a hard time believing the celebrity factor would help). The guy just digs his team being in the spotlight and figures this might be a good way to get them there.

[Darthphere]

so why the "celebrity ownership" ?? is it just a publicity grab for the team?? I don't know what the sports climate is really like because I don't really live down there

Yeah, it's publicity. I mean, Carlos Beltran was at the game Monday. Presumably, rooting for the Fins. Uh-oh!:o

One figure I saw had Miami at 18 out of 32 teams in attendance.

That probably has to do more with the stadium size than anything but I know most games are sold out or close to.

They have a new owner. He's heavy on glitz and the glam, so since taking majority control of the team he has added suites to the stadium with a club-feel, an orange carpet where fans can gather to see VIP guests enter, and of course selling bits and pieces of the team to celebrities. It has nothing to do with trying to boost attendance. Their attendance is fine (and even if it weren't I have a hard time believing the celebrity factor would help). The guy just digs his team being in the spotlight and figures this might be a good way to get them there.

:up:

[Fresh Prince]

the teams in Florida have to try something....the Dolphins have had OK attendance, hell the Marlins weren't selling out the years they were competitive...I remember during the NLCS the stadium would only be about 60-70 percent full....I don't see the big deal, its not like they are making personnel decision or anything like that....

thats why I sad "a city like Miami" because there is plenty of other **** to do besides go to the football game

**** to do here in Philly but we sell out sporting events.

[Go Web Go!]

There's more to do in Philadelphia than there is in South Florida, is there?

[BlackLantern]

**** to do here in Philly but we sell out sporting events.

like what?? beat the homeless and throw things at hookers??

[Fresh Prince]

No...But their still things to do here in Philadelphia.

[Fresh Prince]

like what?? beat the homeless and throw things at hookers??

Who do that? Their hot clubs here in Philly, center city is awesome to go down to, you have the gallery as we call it down their, awesome malls and thearters.

[Franklin Richards]

Getting loaded at a Flyer's game. That's the best thing I did in Philly.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[Dark Donnie]

Yeah Center City is nice as hell....most of Philly is great. Their are some pretty bad spots but still.

[Fresh Prince]

Yeah their ton of stuff to do in Philly......Were no Miami, LA or NYC, but we got our thing going on too.

[Fresh Prince]

Getting loaded at a Flyer's game. That's the best thing I did in Philly.


:thing: :doom: :thing:

You live in Philly? Thought you live in Dallas? Unless you just came to the game as a Stars fan.

[Franklin Richards]

I was living in Hartford at the time. Went to see a Stars game. Love the fact that you can get yards of beer at the game.


:up:


:thing: :doom: :thing:

[BlackLantern]

been to Philly for a Flyers/Rangers game.....had a decent time...it wasn't The Garden though

[StorminNorman]

Junior also doesn't make an annual showing of crocodile tears, citing his retirement or questioning if he wants to play, only to (predictably) flake out the next season, acting like a prima donna in the process.

That's not really true either. Junior did make a huge deal during his first retirement three years ago, and has decided to come back and come back and come back.

Seau is doing the same exact thing Favre is - except the coverage about it is different. It's unfair to blame Brett for the Media's coverage of him, but it's also natural as well. That's why people hate Tim Tebow, and Mark Sanchez.

[Fresh Prince]

been to Philly for a Flyers/Rangers game.....had a decent time...it wasn't The Garden though

Well nothing like THE GARDEN! I heard they making a new one though? Is it true?

[BlackLantern]

back in 2005, the ownership did want to do that and build a new one right down the street but there was a big flap with the city about it and starting either late this year or next year there will be a big renovation

[Go Web Go!]

That's not really true either. Junior did make a huge deal during his first retirement three years ago, and has decided to come back and come back and come back.


Ah yes. Who could forget Junior's "graduation" after signing a one-day contract with the Chargers. One week later he's a New Englad Patriot. :hehe:

[Mister J]

That's not really true either. Junior did make a huge deal during his first retirement three years ago, and has decided to come back and come back and come back.

Seau is doing the same exact thing Favre is - except the coverage about it is different. It's unfair to blame Brett for the Media's coverage of him, but it's also natural as well. That's why people hate Tim Tebow, and Mark Sanchez.
Show me where Junior consistently wavers about just not knowing if he simply wants to play, boo-hooing like a schoolboy with a skinned knee for about 4 or 5 offseasons in a row.

...or where he predicated his return on the Patriots upgrading talent, knowing that his commitment would increase such a possibility.

...or where Junior flippantly responded to inquiries about the team possibly growing impatient with his continued indecision with a smug "What are they going to do? Cut me?"

...or where Junior announced a retirement, denied wanting to come back practically all offseason, only to change his mind, then brag about being able to beat out the guy who ow had his spot, storm off in a huff and launch into a tizzy about wanting to play for a division rival, so he could "stick it" to his old GM.

...or when Junior retired (again), asked for a release (conveniently circumventing contract provisions about where he could be traded) and engaged in a summer long 'I want to/I don't want to/I might want to' mess, only to predictably come back for the same division rival he wanted to play for initially, so he can seek the petty 'revenge' that he alluded to earlier.

This goes way beyond cameras simply happening to be around one guy more than the other. There's a difference between being indecisive, changing your mind because of opportunity and being a flighty douche. I don't foster dislike for Brett because the media likes to cover him, and I don't harbor ill will towards sports personalities that get similar coverage. My disdain goes toward the media for that. However, I do blame Brett for being an overly dramatic pratt.

[NewYorkSpider]

The Brett Favre hate in here is absoutely hilarious. I don't understand why people can hate him for wanting to play football. The media makes it a giagantic deal and asks him/or someone he knows if he's gonna play football every minute. His decisons to play another season probably changed every day, then was reported by the media that he will play, won't play and would probably play every second. Wasn't he asked the other day if he was going to play next year? Let the guy finish the season before you ask questions like that. I honestly could care less what his beef is with GM Ted Thompson. If he wants to stick it to the Packers, then by all means let him. He already beat them Monday Night, he has the Vikings 5-0 and he could possibly land a playoff berth with the team in the near future. People actually complaining about it is becoming more of a distraction then the media makes it out to be. If people honestly don't like the attention Brett Favre is getting, or what he does in the offseason, then stop complaining about it. You're only making it worse.

I felt like *****ing about something tonight. :awesome:

[Excel]

People dont hate him as much as they hate the coverage the guy. His indecisiveness is pretty damn annoying though at times, but if he wants to play, he should. I just think he ought to not say "I can say for sure I am done" because he just looks like an idiot when he comes back.

[bunk]

I'm not sure why anyone would be bothered by his indecisiveness. Who the hell cares. He's come back yet again, and it certainly doesn't have him looking like an idiot.

[BlackLantern]

im fairly neutral about it....his team isn't in my teams division and the Giants dont see the Vikings until the last game of the season

[Fresh Prince]

Hey if the Birds don't win the SB this year actually rooting for the old man to pull another SB out....Since I think Vikes are one of the top NFC teams.

[Darthphere]

I'm not sure why anyone would be bothered by his indecisiveness. Who the hell cares. He's come back yet again, and it certainly doesn't have him looking like an idiot.

He looked great the beginning of last year too...just saying.

[Erzengel]

I think he has more weapons with the Vikings then he did with the Jets.

Was just listening to the radio and while early, they started going through the list of head coaching positions that will probably be open next year.

Definitely, Washington & Buffalo. Possibly, Dallas, Carolina, Jacksonville. Depending on how they finish maybe San Diego.

[Immortalfire]

Anyone see Antonio Pierce's comments about NYG's game vs Oakland? Funny...

"We're playing that game the other day and, honestly, it felt like a scrimmage, like a practice. It felt like we were going against our offense (in a controlled setting) as far as the tempo.

"There was no vibe of trying or effort from the Raiders at all from a defensive standpoint against their offense. We're getting three-and-outs. You don't hear nobody (saying), 'Hey, let's go!' trying to pick the guys up, rallying them, getting guys fired up. There was nothing. It was quiet. A guy gets sacked or somebody gets beat, they just get up. It's not like there's yelling or no kind of (emotion) about the way they were playing.

"It was shocking to be out there in that game and get that kind of feeling."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Antonio-Pierce-is-sorry-but-the-Raiders-really-;_ylt=AikGllHdieyJhL.n4o4dfXA5nYcB?urn=nfl,195931

[Kane52630]

Anyone see Antonio Pierce's comments about NYG's game vs Oakland? Funny...



http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Antonio-Pierce-is-sorry-but-the-Raiders-really-;_ylt=AikGllHdieyJhL.n4o4dfXA5nYcB?urn=nfl,195931

:hehe: nice

[BlackLantern]

even on TV you could look at the Raiders bench and tell it was dead...no one was talking to one another or anything like that....it was just sad....I thought I saw JaMarcus cutting himself and crying while eating a cheeseburger

[Ace of Knaves]

Damn, must suck so hard to be a Raiders fan.

Ahh well, too bad :funny:

[Raiden]

Damn, must suck so hard to be a Raiders fan.

Ahh well, too bad :funny:

I think the organization as a whole is about as low as it could go, but I can't blame the players because thanks to a senile owner who has all the powers but has no clue on what needs to be done, and a HC who is not only incompetent, but might be suspended for punching an assistant and likely be replaced at the end of the season anyway, there is no light at the end of the tunnel. It's funny how Raiders and Rams, both former L.A. teams, have fallen so drastically.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea it's Davis the plonker who should take the blame. How can a guy be sooo ****ing stupid? Like, how did a guy this ****ing stubborn and utterly imbecilic manage to become rich enough to own a football team? He seems to display ZERO business sense.

[Erzengel]

Owners like Davis and Jones, won't have a successful football team until they let GMs and Head Coaches do their jobs. Jones shouldn't be telling the media who's playing and who's not playing. Davis should not be the one deciding who they should draft in the first round.

If I'm a Shanahan, Gruden, I'm not going to go take a Head Coaching position where my decisions are circumvented.

[Kane52630]

check out this poll for the raiders fan site
http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/polls/155095-predict-raiders-2009-record.html

:hehe:

[BlackLantern]

I think what has happened is that Al has refused to grow with the times...the NFL is a lot more than just big name talent these days

[Erzengel]

Eagles, Jets, Chargers, Chiefs, Bengals, Cowboys, Steelers, Redskins, Broncos, Browns and Ravens.

If the Raiders can go 3 - 13, they are lucky.

[Raiden]

I think what has happened is that Al has refused to grow with the times...the NFL is a lot more than just big name talent these days

Yeah, I've read an article where the writer speculated that Al Davis is still living in the 70's, and he likes to draft players who have alot of talents but not football IQ. That's why he likes to go after Olympic sprinters or QB that can throw a football 50 yards away, but not considering whether than QB can read a defense or can make accurate passes.

[Raiden]

Eagles, Jets, Chargers, Chiefs, Bengals, Cowboys, Steelers, Redskins, Broncos, Browns and Ravens.

If the Raiders can go 3 - 13, they are lucky.

I think Raiders only has a chance against Browns and Chiefs, but I think Chiefs might beat them in their 2nd meeting, and Browns might get better when they have their showdown. They may very well end up with a 1-15 record.

[Erzengel]

I'd throw the Redskins in there.

[Raiden]

Fox Apologizes to Jessica Simpson for Mocking Her Weight (http://wonderwall.msn.com/music/fox-apologizes-to-jessica-simpson-for-mocking-her-weight-1523142.story?GT1=28135)

Chew on this.

Burger King and Fox have apologized for an Oct. 11 NFL Sunday skit that mocked Jessica Simpson's weight.

Check out pics of stars pigging out

A rep for Fox tells Usmagazine.com in a statement: "Burger King Corp. did not have any editorial input in the creation of the animation that ran last Sunday, and no one from Burger King Corp. approved it before it aired. Upon reflection, our poor attempt at humor

was insensitive and we deeply apologize to anyone who might have been offended."

Burger King adds: "Burger King Corp. has a long-standing relationship with FOX Sports, as well as an extensive media partnership with the network. The specific content for this sketch involving Jessica Simpson was not developed or aired by BKC or any of its agencies."

See the plastic surgery nightmares of Jessica and other celebs

In the minute-long clip, an animated version of Dallas Cowboys starter Marion Barber remarks, "Man, I still
can't believe Tony [Romo] dated Jessica Simpson, even AFTER she blew up bigger than Flozell Adams!"

Tight end Jason Witten responds: "Unlike Tony, at least Jessica comes up big when it counts!"

Check out Jessica's most outrageous moments

Even Cowboys coach Wade Phillips chimes in: "Say Tony, is Jessica around? We could use a defensive tackle!"

Simpson's rep has no comment.

[BlackLantern]

thats ********....you don't like the joke, change the ****ing channel

[FaT_tONle]

I don't think Shannahan or even Holmgren, should they come back, deserve complete control. They are too old for that stuff now. I mean Shanahan has one big win (05 against the Pats) since the Elway years but has really done nothing since. Cowher is a guy that deserves complete control should he want that, but I wouldn't make Shannahan or Holmgren HC/GM if I were Snyder or Jerry. Just let them pick and choose their staff and have significant input, plus I am sure Jerry will take a back seat the first few years like he did with Bill. He is going to retire from that GM poistion eventually. If this current nucleus doesn't get it done in 4-5 years then I think Jerry will step down and hand it over to Stephen.

[Mister J]

Oakland. Wow. :dry:

Of all the teams in recent memory that have managed to absolutely stink, the Raiders are the only one to simply refuse to show any legitimate signs of improvement. They haven't a season with more than 5 victories since that Super Bowl thrashing by Chucky & Crew. That's six full seasons. Even the damn Lions have won more games over that timeframe (27 to 25) and they had a season where they didn't win a flippin' game! Oakland has had some decent players. This really is quite the phenomenon.

Also, a little side note on everyone's favorite blimp, masquerading as a QB; 2 1/2 minutes into the second quarter, the Giants had a 28-0 lead. Practically any other team in the league would realize it's a blowout, get a sense of urgency by this point, pretty much abandon it's usual game plan and adopt a more pass-heavy offense, in hopes of somehow catching up (or showing any sign of life).

Jacksonville lost 41-0; Garrard threw 31 passes. San Fran lost 45-10; Hill threw 38 passes. St. Louis lost 38-10; Boller threw 31 times. Tampa Bay lost 33-14; Johnson threw 50 times. Tennessee lost 31-9; Collins threw 32 passes. Some of those guys didn't even play the entire game.

How many passes did Tubby, who played 4 quarters, throw in the midst of a 44-7 asskicking? 13. Just win, baby. :awesome:

[Erzengel]

If I were a Shannahan, Cowher or Holmgren, I'd be looking at QBs and Owners.

And out of all the teams that could be looking for head coaches next year, you have Dallas with a decent QB? But again, dealing with Jones.

Unless like I said previously, San Diego and if any of those coaches wants to come back and San Diego is open, I'd run.

[Dr. Evil]

Yeah, I've read an article where the writer speculated that Al Davis is still living in the 70's, and he likes to draft players who have alot of talents but not football IQ. That's why he likes to go after Olympic sprinters or QB that can throw a football 50 yards away, but not considering whether than QB can read a defense or can make accurate passes.

I bet Al Davis was watching the Olympics with a careful eye, wondering if he can get Usain Bolt in a Raiders jersey.

[FaT_tONle]

If I were a Shannahan, Cowher or Holmgren, I'd be looking at QBs and Owners.

And out of all the teams that could be looking for head coaches next year, you have Dallas with a decent QB? But again, dealing with Jones.

Unless like I said previously, San Diego and if any of those coaches wants to come back and San Diego is open, I'd run.

Norv is staying put... for now. Unless SD just collapse and go 6-10. If they just miss the playoffs I think he'll still be back. But yeah he's on a short leash. Should be interesting what happens in Dallas. If the Cowboys get in and get blown out against the G-Men or NO in the Divisional round, Jerry will feel awfully ancy sitting next to that telephone. That's the best job on the market right now for contenders.