2009 NFL Thread

[Kane52630]

damn my second half of picks arent looking so good

[Dr. Evil]

Peter King just said on Football Night in America that the plan is for the next 3 to 4 years, have one team play in London to try to drum up fan support.

[Mister J]

Come on, Miami. It's only the game hinging on this 3rd down stop.

[Kaleb]

Lets see the wildcat help miami now.

[Excel]

Hennes got this.

[omid17]

Yes because of our dumbass kicker.yikes that would have helped right now, cause lead is only 6

did anyone see Sanchez eat a hot dog during the Raiders game? LOLdid he jack it from Tubby? :hehe:

[Dr. Evil]

Jake Delhomme threw 3 interceptions

[Mister J]

The last time the Dolphins had to run a 2 miunte offense, I had a conniption. Maybe I should just go lie down now.

edit: Punt Returner/Drop Specialist strikes again. :middlefinger:

[BlackLantern]

Jake Delhomme threw 3 interceptions

only 3?

[Dark Helmet]

I just hope they do not **** up the last two minutes again

[Excel]

Go back to Ginn. Long. Do it.

[Dr. Evil]

only 3?

Yep.

[Dude101]

One more stop.

[Dark Helmet]

(sighs)

[omid17]

Jake Delhomme threw 3 interceptionswhy am i not surprised

[BlackLantern]

Go back to Ginn. Long. Do it.

Ginns not there just yet

[Excel]

3rd and 13....2 wide receivers????

[Genesis 1.0]

WOW.

Follow the Yellow Flag Road.

[The Game]

Just got back from the game, glad with the win (no deep TD pass to Moss BOOOO) I expected the game to be mediocre and it was but the atmosphere made up for it, good times

[Genesis 1.0]

lmfao Niiiiiiice Pick 6.

[Dark Helmet]

Game over

[Excel]

Ah. That sucks.

[Dude101]

GAME OVER. My Saints win.

[BlackLantern]

the saints D closes it up

[Kaleb]

Game over saints win

[Mister J]

I ...I

...

I'm not even really that surprised. ****ing hell.

[Dark Helmet]

The Dolphins once again **** up the last two minutes. I worry with the Jets game

[Kane52630]

looks like i got that pick right

[Kaleb]

the saints are scary scary good.

[omid17]

looks like i got that pick rightsame here :up: only 1 i screwed up was the bears/bengals game

[Kane52630]

I ...I

...

I'm not even really that surprised. ****ing hell.

thats what i said last week with my Giants

[Immortalfire]

Arrgh, not a good day for my guys. Atlanta's O line had a bad day, and thus did Matty. Ah well, it happens. Learn from it, and move on.

Now off to Hooters to tell a waitress all about it.

[Dark Helmet]

Oh now they are catching the ****ing ball *******s

[Dr. Evil]

Indy still undefeated.......yeah

[FaT_tONle]

This is a game champions will win here.

Dude... it's week 7. Relax. Coming off a big win and stinking it up in the first half in these game tells me this team isn't there mentally like the Giants per say. Let's not put them in the Superbowl for beating a lousy Dolphin team.

[E-Man]

Nice comeback by the Saints. Miami really shot themselves in the foot at the end though.

[Dark Helmet]

LOL @ the crowd leaving early

[omid17]

Shockey had a nice game today

[Mister J]

This is some bull****, Ilaldo. Miami needs some bleeping playmakers on the ends and some DBs that have a clue.

[Kane52630]

looking at the Saints schedule, they got all easy teams until NE

[Dr. Evil]

Peyton Manning had a Peyton like day: 23 of 34 for 235 and 3 TD

[Mister J]

Really? A clock play with one second left? :dry:

Is there a 6-point conversion play that I don't know anything about?

edit: Poetic ending.

[Dude101]

Dude... it's week 7. Relax. Coming off a big win and stinking it up in the first half in these game tells me this team isn't there mentally like the Giants per say. Let's not put them in the Superbowl for beating a lousy Dolphin team.
Im not putting them in the SB. Im just saying that great teams, champion teams can win these type of games.

[Dr. Evil]

Land Shark Stadium? The hell?

[Kane52630]

lol at was a slap to the face with the refs not letting MIA to play one more play

[Dr. Evil]

Sigh....Favre ass kissing next week by the media as he returns to Green Bay.

[omid17]

looking at the Saints schedule, they got all easy teams until NEcan't wait :up:

Peyton Manning had a Peyton like day: 23 of 34 for 235 and 3 TDnice but it was against the rams lol

Really? A clock play with one second left? :dry:

Is there a 6-point conversion play that I don't know anything about?

edit: Poetic ending.lmao seriously

[BlackLantern]

thems the rules....the name will revert to Dolphins Stadium at the end of this year I think

[Dr. Evil]

Also, Carson Palmer went 20 of 24

[Dude101]

looking at the Saints schedule, they got all easy teams until NEFalcons say hi

[Bond]

Well... I haven't seen the Cowboys play that well in a long time.

[vindrow]

Lets hear it for the undefeated Vikes......oh wait, my bad:awesome::hehe:

[BatMatt]

nice victory for Buffalo. Hopefully the momentum continues next week at home against Houston

[The Guardian]

This is some bull****, Ilaldo. Miami needs some bleeping playmakers on the ends and some DBs that have a clue.

Miami needs to QUIT FOOTBALL, open up a freaking restaurant, so they can shovel that crap they call playing football to some other unsuspecting town!!!:argh::argh::argh: If they choked any harder they'd have a freaking elephant's rear end in their mouths, bunch of freaking morons,:doh::doh: Ok, I'm done!!!:o:whatever:

[BlackLantern]

Miami needs to QUIT FOOTBALL, open up a freaking restaurant, so they can shovel that crap they call playing football to some other unsuspecting town!!!:argh::argh::argh: If they choked any harder they'd have a freaking elephant's rear end in their mouths, bunch of freaking morons,:doh::doh: Ok, I'm done!!!:o:whatever:



your feelings are not exactly clear with this post....:hehe:

[omid17]

nice victory for Buffalo. Hopefully the momentum continues next week at home against Houstonagreed with their back up qb. Can't believe Panthers only scored 9, they are garbage

[The Guardian]

your feelings are not exactly clear with this post....:hehe:

I was being SUBTLE!!!:argh::o:oldrazz::D

[FaT_tONle]

Dolphin fans need to put things in perspective. They had a good run these past couple of years. Don't know what else you can expect from that team. Unfortunately, those RB's will get old and will need to be replaced by the time they are ready to compete, but Bill knows how to draft em.

But the Saints will clearly be the one seed barring injury. Falcons aren't that good IMO. I know I just knocked the Saints, but they will probably need to pull an 05 Colts or 06 Chargers or 07 Cowboys to blow this conference. Other than that they are the clear cut favorites.

[Excel]

Tonie I <3 your avatar.

[FaT_tONle]

Tonie I <3 your avatar.

You realize there is a "heart" option to insert... I need a tagline though. They made me remove ***-Rod

[StorminNorman]

Dolphin fans need to put things in perspective. They had a good run these past couple of years. Don't know what else you can expect from that team. Unfortunately, those RB's will get old and will need to be replaced by the time they are ready to compete, but Bill knows how to draft em.

Yes, that 1-15 run was fantastic.

[FaT_tONle]

Yes, that 1-15 run was fantastic.

Wow you are bright... I was referring to the all around turn around from that year to these two years.

[Dude101]

As expected, that ugly leg injury suffered on Sunday by Jets running back Leon Washington will end his 2009 season.

A league source tells us that Washington has a fractured fibula. Washington will have surgery in Oakland because the bone broke through the skin, raising fears of infection. He's expected to be back to full strength in 2010, with a projected recovery time of 12 weeks.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/25/leon-washington-is-out-for-the-year-with-broken-leg/

Thats a bad break for the jets with Kris Jenkins and Leon now out.

[Bond]

How is the Dolphin's year so far anything to be proud of? Last year was their only good year.

[StorminNorman]

They are a team loaded with veteran players that made a bad pick with their top draft pick two years ago.

They may have their QB of the future pegged and unless Ted Ginn steps off, no young offensive weapon for him to grow with yet.

This team really isn't significantly better than the 1-15 from a purely talent stand point.

[Excel]

Theyre offensive line is good, Brown is a beast though a free agent,and Bess could be a great slot guy for years to come. They need help at receiver though. Lot of people to seem see them drafting Dez Bryant or Damian Williams, which would def. help.

[FaT_tONle]

They are a team loaded with veteran players that made a bad pick with their top draft pick two years ago.

They may have their QB of the future pegged and unless Ted Ginn steps off, no young offensive weapon for him to grow with yet.

This team really isn't significantly better than the 1-15 from a purely talent stand point.

Okay... :whatever: Toughest schedule in the league with losses @ SD, @ Atl, NO, Indy, most of which they were competitive, is hardly a team on par with their former selves back in 07. It's a process. Oddly enough, you are ready to put Stafford in the HOF yet bash all these other young up and coming teams for whatever reason. Just admit you are a Lions fans or something because I don't get it.

[CELTICPRED]

I'll have to catch the Saints game on NFL replay.

[StorminNorman]

Okay... :whatever: Toughest schedule in the league with losses @ SD, @ Atl, NO, Indy, most of which they were competitive, is hardly a team on par with their former selves back in 07. It's a process. Oddly enough, you are ready to put Stafford in the HOF yet bash all these other young up and coming teams for whatever reason. Just admit you are a Lions fans or something because I don't get it.

We aren't talking about production, we are talking about talent. From a player personal stand point, the Dolphins aren't substantially better. Their coaching staff is and their general management is light years better - but the talent isn't.

I don't "bash" all these young and up coming teams, in fact it's just the opposite. The Dolphins, however, aren't a young and up coming team. They are an old and up coming team.

And yes, I am a Lions fan. However I only became a fan of the Lions this year. Its a team that is built exactly how I would build a professional team. Plus I have a man crush on Jim Schwartz that would make Stafford jealous.

I wish more people would talk about how horrible the Jake Long pick was a few years. I predict Long will eventually be moved to RT and Lydon Murtha will be their left tackle.

[BlackLantern]

Miami will be fine as time goes on...Henne has to get his starter legs under him and the offense produced today, they just came up against a better offense

[omid17]

Excel did Thomas play today?

[Kane52630]

damn, int by ARI

[Excel]

WOW. That was a SPECTACULAR pick. He just Mossed the receiver.

[omid17]

i wonder what Seymour has to say for todays game lol

[Boom]

Where the hell was this Bengals team last week? Or all season for that matter? Damn good game :up:.

[Mister J]

Blimey. Feagles has been punting for two decades.

[FaT_tONle]

We aren't talking about production, we are talking about talent. From a player personal stand point, the Dolphins aren't substantially better. Their coaching staff is and their general management is light years better - but the talent isn't.

I don't "bash" all these young and up coming teams, in fact it's just the opposite. The Dolphins, however, aren't a young and up coming team. They are an old and up coming team.

And yes, I am a Lions fan. However I only became a fan of the Lions this year. Its a team that is built exactly how I would build a professional team. Plus I have a man crush on Jim Schwartz that would make Stafford jealous.

I wish more people would talk about how horrible the Jake Long pick was a few years. I predict Long will eventually be moved to RT and Lydon Murtha will be their left tackle.

:lmao:... you just lost all credibility as a fan of an NFL team as far as I see it.

[Dude101]

:lmao:... you just lost all credibility as a fan of an NFL team as far as I see it.
I have to agree.

[Kane52630]

wow that was a hard hit

[Franklin Richards]

Nice work, Shankapottamus!


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[StorminNorman]

The Detroit Lions in 2008 were the worst managed, worst coached team in NFL history. Period.

The Detroit Lions in 2009 are far from it.

I look at the Detroit Lions 2009 offseason as essentially an expansion preseason. They got rid of most of the roster and almost all of the coaches.

I am not endorsing the 2008 Detroit Lions in any shape or form.

I am endorsing the 2009 Detroit Lions. Because they have been nearly flawless since the season started in every aspect of BUILDING a team.

Martin Mayhew has proven to be a shrew, intelligent GM. Does anyone argue that Mayhew DIDN'T pull one over on Jerry Jones in the Roy Williams trade? He then picked up some 2010 draft picks by signing and trading Kevin O'Connell and some low round 2009 draft picks.

Jim Schwartz is such a ridiculously perfect choice for Detroit as a head coach its almost crazy. A brilliant, big picture head coach with a Belicheck/Fisher pedigree. His abscence is the largest factor to Tennessee's 0-6 record. He has had years to prepare to be a head coach and his philosophy is very similar to my own in terms of both play calling and team building.

The team identified that the Lions identity should rest with it's offense. They drafted a franchise hugely talented QB to go with freak Calvin Johnson. You can argue whether Oher would have been a better pick, but Brandon Pettigrew helps both in the air and on the ground.

Defense depends so much on scheme, so simply replacing Marinelli and Berry for Schwartz and Cunningham is huge. They Lions drafted three instant starters of defense, brought and brought in two talented linebackers (Peterson, Foote). The defense still needs work. They don't have two starting caliber cornerbacks. They do, however, have one of the most underrated defensive ends in Cliff Avril (a second year player who led rookies in sacks last year).

So yea, it's easy to be intellectually lazy and laugh at the notion that the Lions are a well built football team - but the NFL changes quickly. Just as the Falcons went from chaos to playoffs, the Lions have made a similar turn around. They won't be playoff bound in 2009, but they are well on their way to being a top NFL franchise.

[Kane52630]

That was Boss!
awesome TD

[FaT_tONle]

Lions won't be competitive in that division for another three years minimum, barring season ending injuries to Rogders or Cutler. And if the Vikings are able to acquire a QB for the future forget about it. They might be on the right track, but they are going nowhere in the forseeable future.

[Excel]

The Vikings will snag one of the big 4 qb's this year in Clausen, McCoy, Mallet, or Bradford, and have him sit next year under Favre.

Lions have handled themselves pretty well. Schwartz is on paper a good choice for head coach. They have the games bet young wide receiver. A young qb with a lot of upside. Serviceable young running back. Defense is ok but theyve got the right people in charge.

I think theyve had themselves a pretty good year in a long-term perspective. It will take more solid drafts and some luck for them to make the playoffs in 2010 or 2011, but after that I would assume they start to click.

[Immortalfire]

“I just did not feel like at that point he gave us the best chance to have the success we needed to have offensively and made the move. JaMarcus will continue to be our starter. There is no issue there.” If I ever get to feeling down about my teams, I look at the Raiders....and I feel a lot better.

[omid17]

If I ever get to feeling down about my teams, I look at the Raiders....and I feel a lot better.lol

hey did you get your jersey yet?

[Excel]

For as poorly as Russel has played, who else are they going to start? He had crazy chemistry with Schillens before he got hurt, they need him back desperately.

[Kane52630]

come on G-Men!!!

[Dude101]

Im rooting for the Cards just to piss kane off.

[Kane52630]

Im rooting for the Cards just to piss kane off.

why you :argh:

i hope Cena loses with a injury

[Immortalfire]

lol

hey did you get your jersey yet?

I'll get it at the game.

[Dude101]

why you :argh:

i hope Cena loses with a injuryHey thats not cool man:o

[enterthemadness]

Delhomme isn't the worst Qb in the league that is starting...but he's not the best.

Carolina is now 2-4...and this sucks. For some reason I'm not too worried about it...but it be nice if Carolina can somehow win any of the next 3 games.

@Arizona
@New Orleans
Atlanta (be at this game in Charlotte...hopefully it is somehow still meaningful)

Delhomme needs to settle down. Running game is finally here and the D is good...but turnovers...

[Immortalfire]

For as poorly as Russel has played, who else are they going to start? He had crazy chemistry with Schillens before he got hurt, they need him back desperately.

I wonder if a QB with any sort of work ethic would make any difference.

[omid17]

I'll get it at the game.nice

[Excel]

I wonder if a QB with any sort of work ethic would make any difference.

I wonder if its not so much a lack of work ethic as much its his 3rd new offense to learn in 3 years there.

[TheComicbookKid]

Delhomme isn't the worst Qb in the league that is starting...but he's not the best.

Carolina is now 2-4...and this sucks. For some reason I'm not too worried about it...but it be nice if Carolina can somehow win any of the next 3 games.

@Arizona
@New Orleans
Atlanta (be at this game in Charlotte...hopefully it is somehow still meaningful)

Delhomme needs to settle down. Running game is finally here and the D is good...but turnovers...


Heck no they better not beat the Saints.

[Dude101]

They wont if Delhomme is still playing. Heck Sharper will get about three picks on him.

[Dr. Evil]

I wasn't watching Sunday Night Football for most of the last few hours.....I was watching the ALCS.

Yankees FTW!

Although, both games within minutes of each other is interesting.

[Kane52630]

Ny needs a TD

[Dr. Evil]

I did watch the Sunday Night Game when I heard a "Let's Go Yankees" chant at the Meadowlands.

[Kane52630]

Oh s*** that was awesome
Boss is Boss

[CELTICPRED]

LIKE A BOSS!

:awesome:


Fumbilitis.

[Kane52630]

Nooooo!!!! :(

[Dude101]

This game makes me wonder are the giants that great of a team.

[Trainwreck2100]

haha a 1.5 yard unnecessary roughness penalty

[Dude101]

Wow what a catch

[Dude101]

Manning is god damn clutch. More than his brother.

[Kane52630]

see what did i tell you dude

[Dr. Evil]

Sunday Night Football is over....time to see if the Yankees can win the American League.

[Holiday]

Manning is god damn clutch. More than his brother.

You were saying? :o

[Dude101]

I guess I spoke to soon. The Giants not that good.

[Kane52630]

damn. :(
at least my Jets won

[Dr. Evil]

So it looks like NBC will have a bye week from the NFL next week.....I have always thought that was strange.

[Kaiser]

WHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEEEY!

Where's that one guy that said the Bears would beat the Bengals? LOL! :doh:

[FaT_tONle]

Way to send your team back to the middle of the pack Coughlin. Giants better win next week or they seriously jeapordize their playoff chances.

Btw... NFL pays respect to the W.S and lays off at least one Sunday Night. Besides, it should be a good WS anyhow.

[omid17]

Seymour should have probably keep his mouth shut

[Dr. Evil]

Seymour should have probably keep his mouth shut

He got spoiled from his years in New England.

[Excel]

He's trying to be a leader and rally the youngsters around him.

[omid17]

He's trying to be a leader and rally the youngsters around him.it really helped :hehe:

[Dr. Evil]

Speaking of Former Pats, isn't Willie McGinest retired?

[omid17]

yup

[Addendum]

Way to send your team back to the middle of the pack Coughlin. Giants better win next week or they seriously jeapordize their playoff chances.

Btw... NFL pays respect to the W.S and lays off at least one Sunday Night. Besides, it should be a good WS anyhow.

I'll stick with the video games next Sunday night.

[Ironfan72]

Great win by Cincinnati, finally able to watch a game with out getting acid reflux in the last minute if the game.
Carson looked fantastic and how about Benson, he owned the Bears D yesterday, Who Dey!

[BlackLantern]

He's trying to be a leader and rally the youngsters around him.

some causes are not worth it....the best thing Seymour can do is opt out of his contract (if thats an option) and get the **** out of Oakland as soon as humanly possible....someone else will pick him up

[StorminNorman]

Seymour's contract runs out this year and Oakland may franchise him if a contract can't be reached.

[FaT_tONle]

I did watch the Sunday Night Game when I heard a "Let's Go Yankees" chant at the Meadowlands.

No one up here cares about football this time of year when the baseball teams are in it. I am sure Giant fans are upset, but as long as the Yankees are in it they are good.

[Immortalfire]

Seymour should have probably keep his mouth shut

Gotta love it when these guys make guarantees. :hehe:

[BlackLantern]

Seymour's contract runs out this year and Oakland may franchise him if a contract can't be reached.

I'm still a bit unclear as to how the "franchise" tag works

[Dark Donnie]

I'm still a bit unclear as to how the "franchise" tag works

It's basically just a 1 year deal worth the average of the top 5 players at that position.

[FaT_tONle]

To go back to recent history, I am still shocked that SD didn't franchise Brees the year they just let him walk in FA. What a bonehead move by Smith. I don't know what their cap situation was at the time, but how you not even pick up a couple of picks for that is mind boggling. I mean they did work out decent deals for the Vick/Eli trades but they should have gotten at least a 1st round pick for Brees.

[Dark Donnie]

To go back to recent history, I am still shocked that SD didn't franchise Brees the year they just let him walk in FA. What a bonehead move by Smith. I don't know what their cap situation was at the time, but how you not even pick up a couple of picks for that is mind boggling. I mean they did work out decent deals for the Vick/Eli trades but they should have gotten at least a 1st round pick for Brees.

If I remember correctly Brees hurt his shoulder in the last game of the year and had major shoulder surgery to repair it. Not to mention they had Rivers waiting so.... I'm guessing some teams would have some reservations about trading for the guy.

[Raiden]

Wow, just when Raiders finally beat a great team (Eagles), and Seymour running his mouth and making guarantee about making a playoff, they lost to the Jets at home, by a lopsided score of 38-0. :dry: At least JaTubby Russell (with an extremely awful performance even by his standard) finally got benched, although their backup didn't play that much better either.

Btw, what's with the Giants? Losing to Saints was bad enough, but they lost again to Cards at the Meadowland. Looks like they aren't running way with their division title just yet.

[Kaleb]

ok show of hands here, who wants to punch Russell in the mouth

JaMarcus Russell refused to accept responsibility for his part in the Raiders' embarrassing 38-0 thrashing at the hand of the Jets.

"I don't think it's me personally, I really don't," Russell said. "Do you?" Uh, yes, JaMarcus. We do. The rest of the Raiders players issued mea culpas, but Russell continues to deflect blame despite his wretched play.


source: rotoworld.com

[BlackLantern]

punch him in the mouth, you might lose your hand....Jeff Garcia said that Russell refused to even acknowledge he had a weight problem, so what makes anyone think he would accept responsibility for this?

[Poeman]

did you see his fro hawk?

one of the worst players to ever play the game...

[Immortalfire]

ok show of hands here, who wants to punch Russell in the mouth


Don't do that, he'd eat your hand.

[Raiden]

ok show of hands here, who wants to punch Russell in the mouth

JaMarcus Russell refused to accept responsibility for his part in the Raiders' embarrassing 38-0 thrashing at the hand of the Jets.

"I don't think it's me personally, I really don't," Russell said. "Do you?" Uh, yes, JaMarcus. We do. The rest of the Raiders players issued mea culpas, but Russell continues to deflect blame despite his wretched play.


source: rotoworld.com

Hard to believe that Raiders want to trust the future of their franchise with this guy. :whatever:

[FaT_tONle]

Wow, just when Raiders finally beat a great team (Eagles), and Seymour running his mouth and making guarantee about making a playoff, they lost to the Jets at home, by a lopsided score of 38-0. :dry: At least JaTubby Russell (with an extremely awful performance even by his standard) finally got benched, although their backup didn't play that much better either.

Btw, what's with the Giants? Losing to Saints was bad enough, but they lost again to Cards at the Meadowland. Looks like they aren't running way with their division title just yet.

Eagles are not a great team. This is what they are. They look like the best team one week, then they go out and blow it against one of the crapiest teams known to mankind. That's why they are 9-7 to 11-5 every year.

And people just overestimated the Giants talent this year. Their receivers are inconsistent. The vaunted D-line is not living up to potential. And Jacobs stinks. He has his patches here and there, but teams have shut him down for the most part.

[Dr. Evil]

ok show of hands here, who wants to punch Russell in the mouth

JaMarcus Russell refused to accept responsibility for his part in the Raiders' embarrassing 38-0 thrashing at the hand of the Jets.

"I don't think it's me personally, I really don't," Russell said. "Do you?" Uh, yes, JaMarcus. We do. The rest of the Raiders players issued mea culpas, but Russell continues to deflect blame despite his wretched play.


source: rotoworld.com

Raider fans beg to differ, tubbo.

[Franklin Richards]

10 Things for Cowboys Fans to Love about Sunday (http://timcowlishawblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/10/10-things-for-cowboys-fans-to.html)

Tim Cowlishaw/Columnist


Pick your own order of preference. Here we go.

1. Tony Romo -- Forget the 300 yards and all the connections with Miles Austin. The short TD pass to Patrick Crayton was the play that looked the most like the reason Cowboys fans fell in love with Romo in 2006.

If a QB can make the first pass rusher miss, there's a lot he can accomplish. Romo avoided three Falcons before running towards the line and flipping the TD pass to Crayton. Perfect.

2. Miles Austin -- It's not like 250 yards against the Chiefs was a fluke. That's too many yards to attribute to luck. But it was hard to know how long before Dallas fans would see a similar performance. Answer was one game.

More than 400 yards receiving in 2 weeks? Hard to remember a guy who flashed potential for as long as Austin without breaking through, then just smashed through the wall like this.

3. Run defense -- I know that the Falcons haven't looked much like the team that was No. 1 in rushing offense in 2008. Still, the Cowboys had this thing shut down almost from the start. That's the way a Wade Phillips is supposed to look. On this day, it certainly did.

4. Wild card -- You never know which regular season win is going to turn out to be most crucial when it comes to tie-breaker time. A win over the Falcons (currently 4-2) could turn out to be huge.

5. Wobbly Giants -- Capper on a perfect day for Cowboys fans was a terrible performance from the Giants offense most of the night against Arizona. After a lucky touchdown on a tipped ball made it 14-7 Giants, that game was all Cards. Do the Giants have enough weapons to be what they looked like against Dallas in Week Two? Maybe not.

6. Terence Newman -- Was that really No. 41 laying out a wide receiver in second half? I think it was.

7. Crayton's return -- After his demotion reached new heights of silliness only because the head coach didn't seem to know whether or not Crayton had been told that Austin was starting, it was a huge day for Crayton. After losing Allen Rossum on opening kick, Cowboys needed difference maker in return game -- and there he was.

8. Giants defense -- I mentioned their offense. Did I forget to say how little pressure the Giants got on Kurt Warner and how banged up that team is right now in the secondary? From a Super Bowlicious 5-0 to a very vulnerable 5-2 in two weeks.

9. Seattle coming -- We know strange things happen in the NFL. There's at least one big upset per week. But it's hard to see a wounded Seahawks team getting the best of Dallas next Sunday. And that being the case, a 5-2 record going into Philly is just what the Cowboys need to start looking like a team that's relevant again.

10. Romo -- OK, so he was No. 1. He takes enough of a beating when the team loses that he's worthy of two mentions for a high-percentage, high-performance day against a defense that has challenged others this season.



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[Raiden]

Larry Johnson continues Twitter meltdown (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/26/larry-johnson-continues-twitter-meltdown/)

:dry:

[Raiden]

Saints look mighty impressive right now; they were down by 3 TDs early, and they were playing at Miami, and had everything stacked against them. They still won convincingly in the end. This could be the year that Saints finally win it all if they continue to play at this high level later in the season.

[Kane52630]

Saints and Colts are best in the NFL right now, well see how that goes by the end of the season

[Raiden]

Article on Jets-Raiders game (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/33473957/ns/sports-nfl/)

It was so bad for Oakland that Russell, its former No. 1 overall pick, was benched in the first half after committing three early turnovers. This was the most lopsided home loss in the 50-year history of the Raiders (2-5). They were shut out at home for the fifth time ever, with four coming in the past four seasons. The crowd of 39,354 was the smallest since the team returned to Oakland in 1995.

Looks like even the hardcore Raiders fans couldn't bear to watch.

[Immortalfire]

When you've got less than 40,000 at an NFL game..that ought to be a sign you're doing something wrong. Too bad Al won't even notice.

Larry Johnson continues Twitter meltdown (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/26/larry-johnson-continues-twitter-meltdown/)

:dry: The English language appears to be largely unknown to him.

[Kaleb]

Larry Johnson continues Twitter meltdown (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/26/larry-johnson-continues-twitter-meltdown/)

:dry:

I managed to see what he wrote on his twitter account before they went into damage control, how anyone could understand what he was saying is beyond me . Anyway I hope they cut his homophobic ass

[Kaleb]

Saints look mighty impressive right now; they were down by 3 TDs early, and they were playing at Miami, and had everything stacked against them. They still won convincingly in the end. This could be the year that Saints finally win it all if they continue to play at this high level later in the season.
I was very impressed with Brees and the Defense yesterday.

[Immortalfire]

"Still richer than u," Johnson wrote. "Keep goin. Come play our game oopps forgot you can't . . . . Make me regret it. Lmao. U don't stop my checks. Lmao. So 'tweet' away." Too bad money can't buy him intelligence.

[Poeman]

Cant wait till Twitter ruins a career of a player

[Trainwreck2100]

Cant wait till Twitter ruins a career of a player


It kinda has, NBA player Peja Stoyakavich got outed for cheating on his wife when the girl he hired as an escort turned out to be a porn star. She then tweeted that she had sex with peja

[BlackLantern]

I was very impressed with Brees and the Defense yesterday.

really?? how many QBs can be down that much, take the field, keep the chains moving, the team in it, and win the game??

its a short list

[BlackLantern]

It kinda has, NBA player Peja Stoyakavich got outed for cheating on his wife when the girl he hired as an escort turned out to be a porn star. She then tweeted that she had sex with peja

apparently Peja has nice junk

[Immortalfire]

It kinda has, NBA player Peja Stoyakavich got outed for cheating on his wife when the girl he hired as an escort turned out to be a porn star. She then tweeted that she had sex with peja

:lmao:

[Mister J]

Seymour should have probably keep his mouth shut
I hope a reporter asked him about it after the game. Idiot.
It's basically just a 1 year deal worth the average of the top 5 players at that position.
I'm usually all for anything the NFL does in handling the Union, but I don't really like the franchise tag. After a player's deal is up, sign him long-term or risk him walking. Don't come with a big pile of money, a couple of poison pills that effectively keep anyone from signing him and say "Tough luck. You're not going anywhere." It should require the player's acquiescence.

If I remember correctly Brees hurt his shoulder in the last game of the year and had major shoulder surgery to repair it. Not to mention they had Rivers waiting so.... I'm guessing some teams would have some reservations about trading for the guy.
Some teams even had reservation after having Brees complete an extensive 6-hour private workout.

SABAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MUELLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :argh:

ok show of hands here, who wants to punch Russell in the mouth
The natural jokes have been made, but it's clear Tubby doesn't get it. Even if he believed he wasn't a large* part of the problem (which, to me, would be inexplicable), he should still take it that way. Of course that would require a show of leadership and a cessation of the nonchalance that he's usually associated with. Yet, for some reason, the Raiders keep publicly endorsing this behemoth as their future. It no make the sense. I'm still stunned they benched him.

* Figuratively and literally. :hehe:

Larry Johnson continues Twitter meltdown (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/26/larry-johnson-continues-twitter-meltdown/)

:dry:
I was mistaken last week. Brett Favre is not King Douche. Larry Johnson's ignorant ass is King Douche. Unfortunately, the slothful bum won't merit enough mention in this thread for me to use the tag with any regularity. What a baby. Ass.

Here's hoping The Hammer gets involved. Maybe it'll distract him from the London fantasy.

[BlackLantern]

regardless of the loss, AP still flattened William Gay....after getting trucked like that, you should go sit on the bench for a few and collect your thoughts

[Dark Donnie]

Larry Johnson-RB-Chiefs Oct. 26 - 2:49 pm et

According to Profootballtalk.com, Larry Johnson called reporters "f-ggots" in the Chiefs' locker room Monday.

L.J. also used a homophobic word on his Twitter page late Sunday. Chiefs beat writer Kent Babb mentioned the latest episode on his own Twitter page Monday morning, but left out the term "f-ggot." It will be interesting to hear what coach Todd Haley has to say at his press conference this afternoon.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports

[Poeman]

wtf? larry johnson are you for real....Goodell should fine this fool. Larry needs to get hooked on phonics. Dude cant type even like a 2nd grader

[Immortalfire]

According to Profootballtalk.com, Larry Johnson called reporters "f-ggots" in the Chiefs' locker room Monday.

That's totally like a Ryan Leaf moment.

[BlackLantern]

according to profootballtalk.com, larry johnson called reporters "f-ggots" in the chiefs' locker room monday.

that's totally like a ryan leaf moment.

"knock it off!!!"

[Franklin Richards]

He's gone way downhill since he was Gran Ma Ma.


:D



:doom: :doom: :doom:

[Erzengel]

He's gone way downhill since he was Gran Ma Ma.


:D



:doom: :doom: :doom:
Do you want Wade Philips back next year? :huh:

[Franklin Richards]

I'd trade up but not down.


:cap: :cap: :cap:

[The Game]

LJ is just an awful guy, but I would be more than happy to have the awful human being on our squad, do the right thing Kansas

[Kaleb]

Remember the time he said he didnt want to play for a white coach.

[Dr. Evil]

Mitch Berger is back in the league:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/26/broncos-punt-kern-welcome-berger/

[Kaleb]

[b]Coach Mike Singletary announced Monday that Alex Smith will take over as the 49ers' starting quarterback beginning in Week 8.[b]

It's a deserved promotion after Smith nearly engineered a comeback win after replacing Shaun Hill at halftime of Sunday's game at Houston. Smith's superior arm strength adds a new dimension to San Francisco's offense, which ideally would use the run to set up vertical passes. Four of the Niners' next four games are against potent pass defenses (Week 8 @ IND, Week 10 vs. CHI, Week 11 @ GB), however. Consider Smith a low-end QB2 pickup.


source:rotoworld.com

[Raiden]

[b]Coach Mike Singletary announced Monday that Alex Smith will take over as the 49ers' starting quarterback beginning in Week 8.[b]

It's a deserved promotion after Smith nearly engineered a comeback win after replacing Shaun Hill at halftime of Sunday's game at Houston. Smith's superior arm strength adds a new dimension to San Francisco's offense, which ideally would use the run to set up vertical passes. Four of the Niners' next four games are against potent pass defenses (Week 8 @ IND, Week 10 vs. CHI, Week 11 @ GB), however. Consider Smith a low-end QB2 pickup.


source:rotoworld.com

Maybe all that time on the bench really helped develop Alex Smith into a better QB.

[NewYorkSpider]

Mark Sanchez caught eating a hot dog on the sidelines. :lmao:

Sanchez (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Oakland-hot-dogs-get-a-big-time-endorsement-from?urn=nfl,198197)

[Kane52630]

Mark Sanchez caught eating a hot dog on the sidelines. :lmao:

Sanchez (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Oakland-hot-dogs-get-a-big-time-endorsement-from?urn=nfl,198197)

hey Oaklands Dogs are good but their team sucks :hehe:

[CELTICPRED]

Mark Sanchez caught eating a hot dog on the sidelines. :lmao:

Sanchez (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Oakland-hot-dogs-get-a-big-time-endorsement-from?urn=nfl,198197)

Saw that on NFL Network last night, can you get fined for that?

[BlackLantern]

Mark Sanchez caught eating a hot dog on the sidelines. :lmao:

Sanchez (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Oakland-hot-dogs-get-a-big-time-endorsement-from?urn=nfl,198197)

dude was hungry...laying down ass whuppins builds the appetite...Im surprised JaMarcus didn't try and tackle him for that

[Erzengel]

He apologized. He said he didn't eat before the game. Was it to spite the Raiders, no. But he should have eaten a powerbar or something.

[NewYorkSpider]

dude was hungry...laying down ass whuppins builds the appetite...Im surprised JaMarcus didn't try and tackle him for that

:lmao:


Saw that on NFL Network last night, can you get fined for that?

Not sure.

[NewYorkSpider]

I'm watching the Vikings/Steelers highlights and I'm confused why the Vikings threw the ball on the 1yd line when you have the best running back in the league. :huh:

[Kaleb]

LJ is just an awful guy, but I would be more than happy to have the awful human being on our squad, do the right thing Kansas
You're a pats fan right ? you guys are doing soo well with Maroney.

[BigSams50]

Mark Sanchez caught eating a hot dog on the sidelines. :lmao:

Sanchez (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Oakland-hot-dogs-get-a-big-time-endorsement-from?urn=nfl,198197)


LMFAO thats awesome

[That-Guy]

I'm watching the Vikings/Steelers highlights and I'm confused why the Vikings threw the ball on the 1yd line when you have the best running back in the league. :huh:

If I remember correctly, they tried that last week against the Ravens toward the end of the game and it didn't work. They ended up settling for a field goal.

The Steelers held Adrian to even fewer yards, so I guess the Vikes figured they'd take the chance on Favre's arm, which also didn't work.

[That-Guy]

wtf? larry johnson are you for real....Goodell should fine this fool. Larry needs to get hooked on phonics. Dude cant type even like a 2nd grader

Larry just added another Twitter post:

"MY DAD CAN BEAT UP HALEY'S DAD! HE WAS WIT REDSKINS! SUCK ON DAT"

[enterthemadness]

LMFAO thats awesome

I never thought anyone would attempt to do that.

[Immortalfire]

dude was hungry...laying down ass whuppins builds the appetite...Im surprised JaMarcus didn't try and tackle him for that

:lmao:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/immortalfire/sp_raiders03_084pc.jpg
"Just eat, baby!"

[Mister J]

Larry just added another Twitter post:

"MY DAD CAN BEAT UP HALEY'S DAD! HE WAS WIT REDSKINS! SUCK ON DAT"
The funny thing is that I could actually believe he'd do that.

[Raiden]

He apologized. He said he didn't eat before the game. Was it to spite the Raiders, no. But he should have eaten a powerbar or something.

Yeah, he probably should've eaten a Powerbar, but he's a rookie and it's not a big issue because he already apologized for that, anyway. However, it's funny that Sanchez apologized for eating a hot dog, but Russell refused to apologize for his lackluster performance, and even believe that he didn't do anything wrong yesterday. :whatever: How about being 6 for 11 for 61 yards, with two interceptions and a fumble?

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