Jackson Signs NINE Picture deal to play Fury

[Lobo]

Yes, you read right, NINE

Jackson Signs Nine-Picture Deal to Play Nick Fury!
Source:The Hollywood Reporter, Variety
February 25, 2009


Samuel L. Jackson has buried the hatchet with Marvel Entertainment, making a deal to play the role of Nick Fury in Iron Man 2, and potentially many other films.

Jackson's deal is a long-term commitment to play Fury, the leader of the espionage unit S.H.I.E.L.D. His deal contains an option to play the character in nine future Marvel superhero films, efforts that are expected to include The First Avenger: Captain America, Thor, The Avengers, toplining a possible S.H.I.E.L.D. movie, and potential sequels.

Jackson introduced Fury in the closing moments of Iron Man, when the character asked Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark to join his group.

[Symbiotic]

Holy S***. Well, I'm certainly not complaining.

[Zacky]

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3764/motherofgoddn2.jpg

[titan101]

http://forumspile.com/That-Is-Great_Horray.jpg

[Mister J]

Judas Priest! Nine?! :eek:
I know the prospects for such are slim, but I like the ambition in even referencing that number.

I never saw Jackson's potential absence as a 'the sky is falling' scenario, but I'm glad this has been worked out.

[Keyser Soze]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/JokerSoze/TenayWestYEEEEEEAH.gif

[Chewy]

It's actually a 10 pic deal. IM2 and options on 9 future pics :D

[venomvsspidey]

Yyyyyyeeesss!!!

Epic win!

[[A]]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=317855 http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7223/mosking5486991.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[Weadazoid]

Now all we need is for Howard to come back on board, not that I have anything against Cheadle, but Howard was embodied Starks right hand man more.

[KBX]

WOW.... potential for nine movies? Ironman 2/3, Thor, Cap, Avengers, thats 5 right there.... wonder what other movies Marvel is planning! lol

either way, great job Marvel!!!

[Weadazoid]

WOW.... potential for nine movies? Ironman 2/3, Thor, Cap, Avengers, thats 5 right there.... wonder what other movies Marvel is planning! lol

either way, great job Marvel!!!

Namor, more Hulk, who knows?

[terry78]

Lobo, can you copy this into the Marvel Movies thread as well, since it's technically gonna be news considering every other Marvel flick after IM2.

[TheVileOne]

What was this about Marvel low-balling all the actors and screwing them out of the movie?

I thought Samuel L. Jackson was gone according to some posters here.

[marcvader]

All is well guy's.

[Keyser Soze]

What was this about Marvel low-balling all the actors and screwing them out of the movie?

I thought Samuel L. Jackson was gone according to some posters here.

Yeah, Samuel L Jackson himself saying he may not be reprising the role of Nick Fury can lead to people jumping to groundless conclusions. :whatever:

Why is there always someone who has to spoil good news by gloating about it?

[Ironfan72]

Glad to see Marvel and Sam come to an agreement, I'm a big fan of the Ultimate Nick Fury and was super thrilled to see him in Iron Man, Favreau indicated that Fury would have a much bigger role and it would not be cool seeing someone as Fury.

[Lobo]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=317855 http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7223/mosking5486991.gif (http://imageshack.us)

This news warranted its own thread, as not everyone follows that one.

[Lobo]

WOW.... potential for nine movies? Ironman 2/3, Thor, Cap, Avengers, thats 5 right there.... wonder what other movies Marvel is planning! lol

either way, great job Marvel!!!

A Nick Fury, or SHIELD movie would be 6, plus potential sequels to that, and Avengers sequels.

[zeptron]

Finally some good news. NOW....... let's get Terrance Howard back. :woot:

[Captain Planet!]

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t91/FriendlyNeighborhoodSpidey/samuelljacksonmb7.gif

PRAISE JESUS!!

[Agent 194]

Well...Marvel sounds like their getting serious at least.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Howard aint coming back. Sorry.

[FrostBite]

Holy balls my heart just stopped! :wow:

[IMfan29]

GREAT news!!

Now hopefully we can get Rourke and a suitable replacement for Black Widow!

[goh78]

Here comes the part where this:

"It 's about damn time Marvel. You owe me!"

is posted instead of this:

"Good job Marvel"

[ross2287]

Good job Marvel.

[WillardNation]

this sucks. I'm very disappointed. I've always hated Ultimate Fury.

[chamber-music]

This is Samuel L.Jacksons retirement fund now his 60 :funny:
Its all good though, heres to 10 more years of Jackson kicking ass and taking names.

[Kanon]

9 movies! Holy ****, Marvel just bought Sam's soul...

[FrostBite]

9 movies! Holy ****, Marvel just bought Sam's soul...

Update: It seems Sam has actually filed to have his name legally changed to "Nick Fury." :oldrazz:

[November Rain]

a nine picture deal

is he going to be the new stan lee, popping up in all marvel related productions.

dare i say it may start getting annoying.

i would prefer some sort of uatu type character to keep floating or jackman, or at least mix it up...

[R_Hythlodeus]

agreed. uatu HAS to show up somewhere in this movies.
(I hope alan arkin is playing him)

[Iron_Stark]

Awesome news!

Sam "Mother F'n" Jackson is the MAN!

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Cool news, Jackson has the potential to be a great Fury, glad they signed him up for one or two movies :cwink.

[chamber-music]

Somewhere Cuba Gooding Jr goes hungery

[Philly Phanboy]

Nine pictures is huge. :wow:

After this Sam owes the guy who based Ultimate Nick Fury on him a huge thanks too.

[Kahoot]

So much for the talk that he won't be back coz of money problems at Marvel. :up: Thank the flying unicorn he'll be back!

[Philly Phanboy]

Somewhere David Hasselhoff goes hungry.

Fixed :woot:

[Iron_Stark]

Fixed :woot:

The Hoff isn't going hungry, haven't you seen the video of him eating that hamburger?

[bluehulk]

The Hoff isn't going hungry, haven't you seen the video of him eating that hamburger?

LOL:pal:

[Norm3]

Sad news to me. i'm old school.

[lou2099]

So Chris Griffin was right. Samuel Jackson is in EVERYTHING.

[Doctor Jones]

Good news.

Holy ****, NINE movies?

[fu manchu]

Yay more SLJ as Fury! :yay:

[FlawlessVictory]

So Chris Griffin was right. Samuel Jackson is in EVERYTHING.

:funny:

[Immortalfire]

Nine...gee whiz :eek:

[Agent 194]

Sad news to me. i'm old school.

Alas, I am too. But if they're getting serious, which is what this certainly sounds like, then I'm glad they're continuing what is turning into a really good franchise. I want to see the floating S.HI.E.L.D. headquarters in the sky. Do they have that in the "Ultimates" version? Anyone? We certainly could have a lot of nice Kirby touches and nods to the original era with all of that.

[The Major]

Alas, I am too. But if they're getting serious, which is what this certainly sounds like, then I'm glad they're continuing what is turning into a really good franchise. I want to see the floating S.HI.E.L.D. headquarters in the sky. Do they have that in the "Ultimates" version? Anyone? We certainly could have a lot of nice Kirby touches and nods to the original era with all of that.
Ultimate S.H.I.E.L.D has a fleet of Helicarriers.

[WillardNation]

Sad news to me. i'm old school.

Right there with ya bud.

[terry78]

I think they should just split the difference and have the giant Triskelion along with some lesser craft as backup.

[kedrell]

^I'd be fine with that.

[Agent 194]

Ultimate S.H.I.E.L.D has a fleet of Helicarriers.
Ah,...thanks. Is it inspired by, pay any homage to, the Kirby design?

[Chris B]

Nice to hear that he'll be back.

[GNR]

Wow,this piece of news blew me away.

A SHIELD movies sounds awesome.

[Spider-Vader]

Namor, more Hulk, who knows?

Black Panther, Luke Cage & Dr. Strange. I think Marvel will do some more Avenger tie-in characters after the first movie.

I personally would love to see a Luke Cage movie, get some New Avenger characters in the mix since the other big new guys to the Avengers (Spidey & Wolvie) can't be in these movies...yet.

Plus, he's my favorite black hero.

[powerbomb1411]

Black Panther, Luke Cage & Dr. Strange. I think Marvel will do some more Avenger tie-in characters after the first movie.

I personally would love to see a Luke Cage movie, get some New Avenger characters in the mix since the other big new guys to the Avengers (Spidey & Wolvie) can't be in these movies...yet.

Plus, he's my favorite black hero.

I think Sony has the rights to Luke Cage.

[Spider-Vader]

Awwwwwww....

Well maybe we can get a cool Luke Cage/Spidey movie then.

[The Major]

Ah,...thanks. Is it inspired by, pay any homage to, the Kirby design?
They're basically realistic versions of the 616 Helicarriers. They look like flying battleships. You can see them in detail when the Nick Fury sends a fleet to Micronesia in Ultimates Vol.1.

[AnorexicBatman]

HOLY MOTHER ****ING ****!!!!!!! NO WAI!!!!

.....
......

Now we only need to kill Tom Rothman and all will be good in this world...
He might as well change his name to Nick Fury for realz...

Get off your ass Warner Brothers.... sheesh!!!
How can we have a comics war on the big screen when one side is sleeping!!!

[Spider-Vader]

They're starting. GL is coming next year & if that's a hit. DC will start firing the movies up like Marvel is.

[Chewy]

SLJ talks about his deal

I sent an e-mail to Samuel L. Jackson congratulating him on his nine-movie deal with Marvel Studios and he shot back an answer right away: "Thanks for even caring. It's always a joy lose an eye, gain a patch and a really big facial scar in the name of character. Plus, I get to run the largest world-peace task force in the world, S.H.I.E.L.D. I'm glad that in the end we were able to reach across the aisle and put our differences aside and do what's best for the franchise and the fans ... & ME TOO!"

I talked to him by phone a couple of hours later (all of this was late last week, right before I left for WonderCon in San Francisco) and he said there was no false posturing in his dealings with Marvel; he had reached a point where he was quite sure he would never play the role of Nick Fury. "No one was more surprised than me that it turned around," he said. "It's great that it did."

SOURCE (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2009/03/samuel-l-jackso.html)

[Spider-Fan83]

I was just thinking about it...
it has him listed as making an appearance in the Cap. movie, so, does that mean by the end of the movie we will be seeing it set in the present?
or maybe the intro will start with Fury watching some old Cap. Archive footage, then go into it as flash back

I mean, how else could they work him into the movie?

[FaT_tONle]

Infinity formula... which is cheezy... but faithful. I was hoping they could somehow fit classic Fury in there if they wanted Fury in a setpiece.

[WillardNation]

I was just thinking about it...
it has him listed as making an appearance in the Cap. movie, so, does that mean by the end of the movie we will be seeing it set in the present?
or maybe the intro will start with Fury watching some old Cap. Archive footage, then go into it as flash back

I mean, how else could they work him into the movie?

well, technically Fury WAS in WWII. He's been around quite awhile.

[Spider-Fan83]

well, technically Fury WAS in WWII. He's been around quite awhile.
ya, but given a modern time line, even if he was mid to late 20's during WWII he would have to be like 100 now
and even then, I doubt Sam would play young Fury in the war

[ironman29758]

I'm glad Fury is SMJ again I'm still waiting Hue Jackman to play wolverine in the Captain America movie too but this is great too.
I'm going to post Ultimate Nick Fury history to get an idea of what might happen did anyone read THE INCREDIBLE HULK: THE FURY FILES. The story is bassiacly:
about Nick Fury first meeting with the Hulk and his seash for the perfect super soilder serum and at the end he leaves the hunt for the Hulk to General Ross
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Nick_Fury
http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=10571
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7ADBS_en&ei=AGWwScmVHJGWMvGxqPkE&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Nick+Fury+Iron+Man/+Hulk+fury+files+summary&spell=1
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/081031-tieri-hulk-fury.html

[Daredevil_2003]

Awesome! Samuel L. Mother ****in' Jackson is the man! I totally creamed at his little cameo in IM. Can't wait to see him as a central player in Avengers and the like. Great news! :up: :D

[enygma]

Black Panther, Luke Cage & Dr. Strange. I think Marvel will do some more Avenger tie-in characters after the first movie.

I personally would love to see a Luke Cage movie, get some New Avenger characters in the mix since the other big new guys to the Avengers (Spidey & Wolvie) can't be in these movies...yet.

Plus, he's my favorite black hero.
I could be wrong but are Blade, DD and Elecktra not all due to revert back to Marvel???? I'm just sad that xmen and spidey are out at fox and sony, it would be great to see all marvel properties in one stable.

[enygma]

Black Panther, Luke Cage & Dr. Strange. I think Marvel will do some more Avenger tie-in characters after the first movie.

I personally would love to see a Luke Cage movie, get some New Avenger characters in the mix since the other big new guys to the Avengers (Spidey & Wolvie) can't be in these movies...yet.

Plus, he's my favorite black hero.
I could be wrong but are Blade, DD and Elecktra not all due to revert back to Marvel???? I'm just sad that xmen and spidey are out at fox and sony, it would be great to see all marvel properties in one stable.

[AnorexicBatman]

If Fury ever returns in the post Civil War comics (he's in hiding)...
His civilian name should totally be Samuel L Jackson...

Stark: F... FURY!!! MY GOD!! (hides evidence of his screwups) ... where have you been?
Fury: Hollywood... didn't you see me in SNAKES ON A PLANE?

[Kahoot]

I never understood why Fury was in hiding in the comics. Do you think it's so that when he comes back he'll be black and look more like his Ultimate counterpart? Some uber plastic surgery to help him hide.

Also, his civilian name should be simply Sam Jackson. Marvel is based in a real world where Samuel L Jackson probably exists.

[Kanon]

I thought he was around (and bald) during the Secret Invasion (I only read half of it)

[Kal-El 8]

Yes, you read right, NINE

Jackson Signs Nine-Picture Deal to Play Nick Fury!
Source:The Hollywood Reporter, Variety
February 25, 2009


Samuel L. Jackson has buried the hatchet with Marvel Entertainment, making a deal to play the role of Nick Fury in Iron Man 2, and potentially many other films.

Jackson's deal is a long-term commitment to play Fury, the leader of the espionage unit S.H.I.E.L.D. His deal contains an option to play the character in nine future Marvel superhero films, efforts that are expected to include The First Avenger: Captain America, Thor, The Avengers, toplining a possible S.H.I.E.L.D. movie, and potential sequels.

Jackson introduced Fury in the closing moments of Iron Man, when the character asked Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark to join his group.

Excellent :yay:

[enygma]

Fury is back and looks like he always did

[Kirk 1701]

Hello. I'am new to this site and have been involve with Comic Books for the past twenty-five years or so. I have been coming to this site looking for information about Comic Book Movies and general interest about other movies for the past few years. I have understood all the complaints and different opinions on this site. So now, I wish to voice my opinion. I DO NOT want to see Samuel Jackson in any other Marvel or superhero movie. He has already acted or played two super heroes before Nick Fury in Iron Man. They were Mace Windu in Star Wars and the voice for the character Frozone in The Incredibles. Enough is enough!!! He has signed a nine picture deal to play Nick Fury. Which I think is the most frivolous thing he can do with his acting career. The man will be sixty- one years old this December. Even Sean Connery knew it was time to stop acting after the age of seventy-five. I think Mister Jackson should take a page out of Mister Connery's book and retire from future movies or Comic Book Movies, for that matter. He should enjoy his golden years with his family. Everyone on this board knows it takes a very long time for anything to get done in Hollywood. So, do we want Mister Jackson to play Nick Fury, ten or fifteen years from now? The man will be in his mid seventies. Mister Jackson is not Dick Clark. Don't get me wrong, Iron Man was a great film. Along the lines of Superman: The Movie and Spider-Man. I very much enjoy Iron Man except for the scenes with Nick Fury. I hated every ten seconds of it. Even though, I liked Batman: The Dark Knight a whole lot better. Iron Man has grossed 582 million worldwide and The Dark Knight has grossed 1 billion worldwide. So, The Dark Knight was a much better film! If Marvel continues on making super heroes movies with Mister Jackson, that is fine with me. Hopefully, his role will be a very small one and I 'll pretend he was not on the screen at all. I just hope he won't be in Spider-Man 4. According to Wikipedia and other websites, Iron Man is suppose to take place in the Marvel main stream universe, not in The Ulitmate Universe. Besides, I hate the Ulitmate Universe. It's just another line of comic books for kids to waste their money on. If they do come out with a Nick Fury film, I will not waste my hard earn money on it. If we learn anything from Comic Book movies. Like when Hollywood forgets about the source material about comic book characters. For example, Catwoman. The budget was 100,000,000 and only made a profit of 82,000,000. It didn't even exist in the Batman or DC universe. Which made a lot of fans quite unhappy and angry. Hollywood needs to stay as close to the source material as possible. If not, the movie will surely fail at the box office and with the fans. Remember, Hollywood is a business, and business is making money. So they need to get it right the first time. I know I'am gone to get railroaded for speaking my mind and disagreeing with people on this board about Mister Samuel Jackson, but that is why we live here in America. Well, that is my opinion. Take care.

:facepalm

[R_Hythlodeus]

I know I'am gone to get railroaded [...] but that is why we live here in America.

This is one of the oddest reasons I´ve ever heard or read to live in a specific country.

Oh, btw, the internet is not only available in the U.S., the put it in computers all over the globe :woot:

[Mal'Akai]

Hello. I'am new to this site and have been involve with Comic Books for the past twenty-five years or so. I have been coming to this site looking for information about Comic Book Movies and general interest about other movies for the past few years. I have understood all the complaints and different opinions on this site. So now, I wish to voice my opinion. I DO NOT want to see Samuel Jackson in any other Marvel or superhero movie. He has already acted or played two super heroes before Nick Fury in Iron Man. They were Mace Windu in Star Wars and the voice for the character Frozone in The Incredibles. Enough is enough!!! He has signed a nine picture deal to play Nick Fury. Which I think is the most frivolous thing he can do with his acting career. The man will be sixty- one years old this December. Even Sean Connery knew it was time to stop acting after the age of seventy-five. I think Mister Jackson should take a page out of Mister Connery's book and retire from future movies or Comic Book Movies, for that matter. He should enjoy his golden years with his family. Everyone on this board knows it takes a very long time for anything to get done in Hollywood. So, do we want Mister Jackson to play Nick Fury, ten or fifteen years from now? The man will be in his mid seventies. Mister Jackson is not Dick Clark. Don't get me wrong, Iron Man was a great film. Along the lines of Superman: The Movie and Spider-Man. I very much enjoy Iron Man except for the scenes with Nick Fury. I hated every ten seconds of it. Even though, I liked Batman: The Dark Knight a whole lot better. Iron Man has grossed 582 million worldwide and The Dark Knight has grossed 1 billion worldwide. So, The Dark Knight was a much better film! If Marvel continues on making super heroes movies with Mister Jackson, that is fine with me. Hopefully, his role will be a very small one and I 'll pretend he was not on the screen at all. I just hope he won't be in Spider-Man 4. According to Wikipedia and other websites, Iron Man is suppose to take place in the Marvel main stream universe, not in The Ulitmate Universe. Besides, I hate the Ulitmate Universe. It's just another line of comic books for kids to waste their money on. If they do come out with a Nick Fury film, I will not waste my hard earn money on it. If we learn anything from Comic Book movies. Like when Hollywood forgets about the source material about comic book characters. For example, Catwoman. The budget was 100,000,000 and only made a profit of 82,000,000. It didn't even exist in the Batman or DC universe. Which made a lot of fans quite unhappy and angry. Hollywood needs to stay as close to the source material as possible. If not, the movie will surely fail at the box office and with the fans. Remember, Hollywood is a business, and business is making money. So they need to get it right the first time. I know I'am gone to get railroaded for speaking my mind and disagreeing with people on this boad about Mister Samuel Jackson, but that is why we live here in America. Well, that is my opinion. Take care.

:facepalm
I think you have a few too many zeroes in that statement.

As for staying close to the source material, Jackson as Fury cannot get any closer. The Ultimate version of the character was based on him.

[Daredevil_2003]

Hello. I'am new to this site and have been involve with Comic Books for the past twenty-five years or so. I have been coming to this site looking for information about Comic Book Movies and general interest about other movies for the past few years. I have understood all the complaints and different opinions on this site. So now, I wish to voice my opinion. I DO NOT want to see Samuel Jackson in any other Marvel or superhero movie. He has already acted or played two super heroes before Nick Fury in Iron Man. They were Mace Windu in Star Wars and the voice for the character Frozone in The Incredibles. Enough is enough!!! He has signed a nine picture deal to play Nick Fury. Which I think is the most frivolous thing he can do with his acting career. The man will be sixty- one years old this December. Even Sean Connery knew it was time to stop acting after the age of seventy-five. I think Mister Jackson should take a page out of Mister Connery's book and retire from future movies or Comic Book Movies, for that matter. He should enjoy his golden years with his family. Everyone on this board knows it takes a very long time for anything to get done in Hollywood. So, do we want Mister Jackson to play Nick Fury, ten or fifteen years from now? The man will be in his mid seventies. Mister Jackson is not Dick Clark. Don't get me wrong, Iron Man was a great film. Along the lines of Superman: The Movie and Spider-Man. I very much enjoy Iron Man except for the scenes with Nick Fury. I hated every ten seconds of it. Even though, I liked Batman: The Dark Knight a whole lot better. Iron Man has grossed 582 million worldwide and The Dark Knight has grossed 1 billion worldwide. So, The Dark Knight was a much better film! If Marvel continues on making super heroes movies with Mister Jackson, that is fine with me. Hopefully, his role will be a very small one and I 'll pretend he was not on the screen at all. I just hope he won't be in Spider-Man 4. According to Wikipedia and other websites, Iron Man is suppose to take place in the Marvel main stream universe, not in The Ulitmate Universe. Besides, I hate the Ulitmate Universe. It's just another line of comic books for kids to waste their money on. If they do come out with a Nick Fury film, I will not waste my hard earn money on it. If we learn anything from Comic Book movies. Like when Hollywood forgets about the source material about comic book characters. For example, Catwoman. The budget was 100,000,000 and only made a profit of 82,000,000. It didn't even exist in the Batman or DC universe. Which made a lot of fans quite unhappy and angry. Hollywood needs to stay as close to the source material as possible. If not, the movie will surely fail at the box office and with the fans. Remember, Hollywood is a business, and business is making money. So they need to get it right the first time. I know I'am gone to get railroaded for speaking my mind and disagreeing with people on this boad about Mister Samuel Jackson, but that is why we live here in America. Well, that is my opinion. Take care.

:facepalm...What?

[powerbomb1411]

Is this where someone says "Wall of text"?

[Daredevil_2003]

I believe so, yes...:hehe:

[Kirk 1701]

How can you say Mister Jackson is close to the source material of Nick Fury. If you notice in my post, the Iron Man film is based in the Marvel main stream universe. The film is not suppose to take place in the Ultimate universe. The Ulimate Universe is a parallel universe of the main stream universe. So how can you have the Ulimate Universe Nick Fury in Iron Man, when Iron Man takes places in the Marvel main stream universe? Besides, I know I'll be called a racist, but since 1963 the charcter has been white. If Jack Kirby was still alive, I think he would be disappointed and outrage with Marvel and what they have done with the chararcter of Nick Fury.


:facepalm

[Kirk 1701]

In response to the statement that I have to many zeros for the budget and profits for the Catwoman fim. I got the information from the website Wikipedia. The budget was for one-hundred million. The profits from the film was a little over eighty-two million. It is considered the worst comic book movie ever made.



:facepalm

[Aztec]

Hello. I'am new to this site and have been involve with Comic Books for the past twenty-five years or so. I have been coming to this site looking for information about Comic Book Movies and general interest about other movies for the past few years. I have understood all the complaints and different opinions on this site. So now, I wish to voice my opinion. I DO NOT want to see Samuel Jackson in any other Marvel or superhero movie. He has already acted or played two super heroes before Nick Fury in Iron Man. They were Mace Windu in Star Wars and the voice for the character Frozone in The Incredibles. Enough is enough!!! He has signed a nine picture deal to play Nick Fury. Which I think is the most frivolous thing he can do with his acting career. The man will be sixty- one years old this December. Even Sean Connery knew it was time to stop acting after the age of seventy-five. I think Mister Jackson should take a page out of Mister Connery's book and retire from future movies or Comic Book Movies, for that matter. He should enjoy his golden years with his family. Everyone on this board knows it takes a very long time for anything to get done in Hollywood. So, do we want Mister Jackson to play Nick Fury, ten or fifteen years from now? The man will be in his mid seventies. Mister Jackson is not Dick Clark. Don't get me wrong, Iron Man was a great film. Along the lines of Superman: The Movie and Spider-Man. I very much enjoy Iron Man except for the scenes with Nick Fury. I hated every ten seconds of it. Even though, I liked Batman: The Dark Knight a whole lot better. Iron Man has grossed 582 million worldwide and The Dark Knight has grossed 1 billion worldwide. So, The Dark Knight was a much better film! If Marvel continues on making super heroes movies with Mister Jackson, that is fine with me. Hopefully, his role will be a very small one and I 'll pretend he was not on the screen at all. I just hope he won't be in Spider-Man 4. According to Wikipedia and other websites, Iron Man is suppose to take place in the Marvel main stream universe, not in The Ulitmate Universe. Besides, I hate the Ulitmate Universe. It's just another line of comic books for kids to waste their money on. If they do come out with a Nick Fury film, I will not waste my hard earn money on it. If we learn anything from Comic Book movies. Like when Hollywood forgets about the source material about comic book characters. For example, Catwoman. The budget was 100,000,000 and only made a profit of 82,000,000. It didn't even exist in the Batman or DC universe. Which made a lot of fans quite unhappy and angry. Hollywood needs to stay as close to the source material as possible. If not, the movie will surely fail at the box office and with the fans. Remember, Hollywood is a business, and business is making money. So they need to get it right the first time. I know I'am gone to get railroaded for speaking my mind and disagreeing with people on this boad about Mister Samuel Jackson, but that is why we live here in America. Well, that is my opinion. Take care.

:facepalm

Spaces, returns, and paragraphs can go a long way.

[Shivsguy616]

How can you say Mister Jackson is close to the source material of Nick Fury. If you notice in my post, the Iron Man film is based in the Marvel main stream universe. The film is not suppose to take place in the Ultimate universe. The Ulimate Universe is a parallel universe of the main stream universe. So how can you have the Ulimate Universe Nick Fury in Iron Man, when Iron Man takes places in the Marvel main stream universe? Besides, I know I'll be called a racist, but since 1963 the charcter has been white. If Jack Kirby was still alive, I lthink he would be disappointed and outrage with Marvel and what they have done with the chararcter of Nick Fury.


:facepalm

All marvel films take place in a movieverse which is parallel to the 616 universe and the ultimate universe. It is neither 616, nor ultimate.

[Mal'Akai]

all marvel films take place in a movieverse which is parallel to the 616 universe and the ultimate universe. It is neither 616, nor ultimate.
qft.

Hell, all comic movies take place in a Movieverse of some sort. I suppose Kirk also has a major problem with the 6'2" Hugh Jackman playing the 5'4" Wolverine, too.

[Chewy]

If Kirk 1701 feels this strongly about a race change for a minor character I wonder how he'll react when he finds out Justin Hammer's age is being cut in half and Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo are being combined into one character :cwink:

[Kirk 1701]

I' am not pleased that they are combining Crimsom Dynano and Whiplash into one character. Marvel or Marvel Entertainment is just a greedy company. Iron Man had a budget of 140 million and made a profit of 582 million worldwide. So you can not justified to me that Marvel does not have the funds to pay for another actor. Back in 1998, Tom Cruise had expressed interest in producing and staring in Iron Man. Could you even imaging Marvel paying Tom Cruise 20 million or more to be in Iron Man. It would have never happen. Don't get me wrong, Robert Downey Jr. is a good actor, but he not an A-List actor like Tom Cruise or Johnny Depp. Marvel could never afford A-List actors with big budget movie deals. Marvel will try to get less known or unknown actors to be in their movies. I hate to say this, Marvel is gone to force the next crop of super-hero movies down our throats in the next few years. Then again, Marvel does not have the financial support like DC has with Warner Brothers. Ok, I said my peace.



:facepalm

[Kirk 1701]

I was very impressed with Hugh Jackson portrayal as Wolverine in The X-Men movie trilogy. My only flaw with the trilogy is that everyone was in love with Wolverine. I'am petty sure Hugh Jackman had all or most of the lines in the movies. If memory serves me right, the movie title said X-MEN, not Wolverine.


:bh:

[irapogi]

All marvel films take place in a movieverse which is parallel to the 616 universe and the ultimate universe. It is neither 616, nor ultimate.

QFT.

jeezuz, lotsa ppl still dont get it.

[FaT_tONle]

I think there is a bias towards Ultimate though...

[Kirk 1701]

Yes there is a bias towards The Ultimate Marvel Universe. Marvel created this line back in 2000. I take it that sales for the company were down and they decided to come out with this line of books. I have even considering throwing away my Ultimate Avenger DVD in the trash. Back in the day, heroes either worked alone or operated in small teams. Not in the Ultimate Universe. Ulitimate Nick Fury and SHIELD are responsible for any unauthorize genetic mutations here in the U.S. and in Europe. Powered individuals are force against their will to join Ultimate teams or be considered a threat to society. Heroes in the Ulitmate universe operate under the radar of the government. This line of books reminds me of that book and movie 1984. It potrayal a pervasive government surveillance and control, and government's increasing encroachment on the rights of the individual. So basically, if you are a hero in the Ulitmate Universe your rights as a individual don't matter. Is this the leacgy we want to leave our kids. That if you are different from other people, you have no rights whatsoever. The government or big brother will watch everthing you do in life and control your actions.



:facepalm

[Kirk 1701]

All marvel films take place in a movieverse which is parallel to the 616 universe and the ultimate universe. It is neither 616, nor ultimate.

If that is the case, where does The Iron Man film take place and what universe is it located? If you gone to use that logic, you probably would say that the Catwomen movie didn't take place in the DC Universe. She was the only villian in that universe without other heros or villians.


:facepalm

[JackIvyGB]

Imagine a venn diagram, like one you'd see in a class at school. One circle is the 616 universe. One circle is the Ultimate Universe. Where they overlap is a little place we like to call the "movie-verse". It's where the heroes come to life on film, pulling from the best and most cinema worthy aspects of both worlds to form a solid, coherent representation of the character/s. Sure, Iron Man's suit was 616, but his identity is public, Nick Fury is Sam Jackson, SHIELD is forming the Avengers. Those are all Ultimate influences.

Heck, look at The Incredible Hulk! The helicopter drop hulk-out was exactly from Ultimates, as was the connection between the Hulk formula and the Cap formula, but his origin and the film soundtrack were based heavily on the old TV series! It's all about what people will recognize/relate to the most, and what will come across on film best. Just because SHIELD forms the Avengers, doesn't mean they can't split off and go public like at the end of Ultimates 2 (as long as anything U3 is avoided. I think we all have a mutual dislike for that!).

The comparisons to "what universe is catwoman in?" are null and void, as you said yourself, no attempt was made to connect it to anything. Only now is DC starting to get the ball rolling, using Nolan's Batman as it's flagship so to speak. We will soon see a new Superman, Green Lantern, and apparently even Wonder Woman. Even though we don't know if they'll ever be united in a JLA or World's Finest film, at least it will be easier to call it a definitive "movie verse". There is no definitive DC ultimate universe, but you can already see how Batman Begins and TDK were influenced by Frank Miller's Batman, Neal Adams' Batman, and Jeph Loeb's Batman. It's the same deal, pulling from all viable interpretations of the character.

PS
I hope you know that anyone can go onto wikipedia and add in whatever they want to the articles, especially the ones no one really pays attention to, like say...the Catwoman movie. Just letting you know, you may want to get your facts elsewhere :yay:

[Kirk 1701]

Imagine a venn diagram, like one you'd see in a class at school. One circle is the 616 universe. One circle is the Ultimate Universe. Where they overlap is a little place we like to call the "movie-verse". It's where the heroes come to life on film, pulling from the best and most cinema worthy aspects of both worlds to form a solid, coherent representation of the character/s. Sure, Iron Man's suit was 616, but his identity is public, Nick Fury is Sam Jackson, SHIELD is forming the Avengers. Those are all Ultimate influences.

Heck, look at The Incredible Hulk! The helicopter drop hulk-out was exactly from Ultimates, as was the connection between the Hulk formula and the Cap formula, but his origin and the film soundtrack were based heavily on the old TV series! It's all about what people will recognize/relate to the most, and what will come across on film best. Just because SHIELD forms the Avengers, doesn't mean they can't split off and go public like at the end of Ultimates 2 (as long as anything U3 is avoided. I think we all have a mutual dislike for that!).

The comparisons to "what universe is catwoman in?" are null and void, as you said yourself, no attempt was made to connect it to anything. Only now is DC starting to get the ball rolling, using Nolan's Batman as it's flagship so to speak. We will soon see a new Superman, Green Lantern, and apparently even Wonder Woman. Even though we don't know if they'll ever be united in a JLA or World's Finest film, at least it will be easier to call it a definitive "movie verse". There is no definitive DC ultimate universe, but you can already see how Batman Begins and TDK were influenced by Frank Miller's Batman, Neal Adams' Batman, and Jeph Loeb's Batman. It's the same deal, pulling from all viable interpretations of the character.

PS
I hope you know that anyone can go onto wikipedia and add in whatever they want to the articles, especially the ones no one really pays attention to, like say...the Catwoman movie. Just letting you know, you may want to get your facts elsewhere :yay:

I agree with everything you said about the DC Universe. Even though I would like to see the Chris Nolan version of Robin. I know everyone will say that Batman needs to be on his own fighting crime, that Batman and Robin did have homesexuel interpretations in the comic books and the live action TV series, and that Robin is one big thorn in Batman's side. If they do have Robin in a Batman movie, it won't be with Nolan, I know that. If I was in control of Warner Brothers, when the contracts for future Batman Movies are being discuss, I would make sure Robin is a major player in future Batman movies. Robin has been a part of the Batman Family since 1940 and you can not just write the character off, because you can not stand the character.If Nolan or Bale don't like the idea for Robin in future Batman Movies. We can send them on their way and don't let the door hit them in the ass.

I would have to disagree with you on the Marvel Universe and the Marvel Ulitmate Universe. You can not expect people who have been collecting Marvel Comics for the past thirty or forty years that there is some sort of movie-verse that exist somewhere in the Marvel Universe. It is total nonsense. Untill Marvel goes on the record and states that this mysterious and ridiculous universe exists. I'am not buying it. If my kid came home with a comic dealing with the Ulitmate Universe. It would go in the trash.
Seriously!!!

You need to read my post on how I feel about the Ulitmate Universe!!!


Where can I get more facts, honest facts. No BS.




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[Daredevil_2003]

Again...what?

[The Showstopper]

I would have to disagree with you on the Marvel Universe and the Marvel Ulitmate Universe. You can not expect people who have been collecting Marvel Comics for the past thirty or forty years that there is some sort of movie-verse that exist somewhere in the Marvel Universe. It is total nonsense. Untill Marvel goes on the record and states that this mysterious and ridiculous universe exists. I'am not buying it. If my kid came home with a comic dealing with the Ulitmate Universe. It would go in the trash.
Seriously!!!

You need to read my post on how I feel about the Ulitmate Universe!!!


Where can I get more facts, honest facts. No BS.




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Dude, how can you deny the marvel movieverse does not exist. No movie made has have EVERY detail from the comics, things have been changed or removed. So how can you say this is the main 616 verse? I understand you getting upset about some changes, hell i dont like every change that has been done but i understand the movie can not be the comics and is an entire entity unto itself, in its own universe.

If you truly think that there is no movieverse, then no movie must have reached your expectations becasue no movie can be exact to the comic source material.

[Shivsguy616]

If that is the case, where does The Iron Man film take place and what universe is it located? If you gone to use that logic, you probably would say that the Catwomen movie didn't take place in the DC Universe. She was the only villian in that universe without other heros or villians.


:facepalm

I neither know nor care about DC so I can only answer for marvel. The Iron Man film takes place in the Marvel Movieverse.

[Shivsguy616]

I agree with everything you said about the DC Universe. Even though I would like to see the Chris Nolan version of Robin. I know everyone will say that Batman needs to be on his own fighting crime, that Batman and Robin did have homesexuel interpretations in the comic books and the live action TV series, and that Robin is one big thorn in Batman's side. If they do have Robin in a Batman movie, it won't be with Nolan, I know that. If I was in control of Warner Brothers, when the contracts for future Batman Movies are being discuss, I would make sure Robin is a major player in future Batman movies. Robin has been a part of the Batman Family since 1940 and you can not just write the character off, because you can not stand the character.If Nolan or Bale don't like the idea for Robin in future Batman Movies. We can send them on their way and don't let the door hit them in the ass.

I would have to disagree with you on the Marvel Universe and the Marvel Ulitmate Universe. You can not expect people who have been collecting Marvel Comics for the past thirty or forty years that there is some sort of movie-verse that exist somewhere in the Marvel Universe. It is total nonsense. Untill Marvel goes on the record and states that this mysterious and ridiculous universe exists. I'am not buying it. If my kid came home with a comic dealing with the Ulitmate Universe. It would go in the trash.
Seriously!!!

You need to read my post on how I feel about the Ulitmate Universe!!!


Where can I get more facts, honest facts. No BS.




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In that case, name one single Marvel film set in the 616 universe. If you can not do that for me then you are wrong. I'll give you a heads up... you are wrong.

[Kirk 1701]

Dude, how can you deny the marvel movieverse does not exist. No movie made has have EVERY detail from the comics, things have been changed or removed. So how can you say this is the main 616 verse? I understand you getting upset about some changes, hell i dont like every change that has been done but i understand the movie can not be the comics and is an entire entity unto itself, in its own universe.

If you truly think that there is no movieverse, then no movie must have reached your expectations becasue no movie can be exact to the comic source material.

I understand your point of view. I dislike anything about the Ulimate Unverse. I do not want to see anything in any Marvel movies that deals with the Ultimate Universe. The Spider-Man movies, Ghost Rider movie, the Daredevil movie, and Fantastic Four movies do not take place in The Ultimate Universe. So why must we have the Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk movies located somewhere in between Universe 616 and the Ulitmate Universe? I think it is a conspiracy by Marvel and Marvel Entertainment to get more minority kids to buy more comc books and to go to the movies. That' why we have Sam Jackson as Nick Fury in the comics and in the films. The reason there is a black Nick Fury at all is because 95% of comic book heros in the DC and Marvel are white. The oppisite thing can be said about the NFL. 75% of the players in the NFL are black and 25% are white. Business is business, and they will do anything possible to get people in the movies or at the big game. Remeber companies are very greedy and they all need to be shut down! All of them!!! Time to go back to the Stone Age!




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[Kirk 1701]

In that case, name one single Marvel film set in the 616 universe. If you can not do that for me then you are wrong. I'll give you a heads up... you are wrong.

I'am sticking by my opinion. No one will change my mind about this strange movie-verse that Marvel has tried to created. I 'am sticking to my principles and wheather my opinion is right or wrong, it is for me to decide and no one else. You will never chance my mind. I don't think the Spider-Man, Daredevil, Fantantis Four, or Ghost Rider movies take place in your so call movie-verse. If these movies did take place in the movie-verse, where is your poof. It must be poof that I can read and cross references with other data.





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[The Showstopper]

I'am sticking by my opinion. No one will change my mind about this strange movie-verse that Marvel has tried to created. I 'am sticking to my principles and wheather my opinion is right or wrong, it is for me to decide and no one else. You will never chance my mind. I don't think the Spider-Man, Daredevil, Fantantis Four, or Ghost Rider movies take place in your so call movie-verse. If these movies did take place in the movie-verse, where is your poof. It must be poof that I can read and cross references with other data.





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umm...proof. ok how about it was a movie adaptation. they didnt show comic pages for 2 hours, so therefor its not the comic book world....

[ayakazoob]

I think it is a conspiracy by Marvel and Marvel Entertainment to get more minority kids to buy more comic books and to go to the movies. That' why we have Sam Jackson as Nick Fury in the comics and in the films. The reason there is a black Nick Fury at all is because 95% of comic book heroes in the DC and Marvel are white. The opposite thing can be said about the NFL. 75% of the players in the NFL are black and 25% are white. Business is business, and they will do anything possible to get people in the movies or at the big game. Remember companies are very greedy and they all need to be shut down! All of them!!! Time to go back to the Stone Age!




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95% of comic book characters are white because the vast majority of popular characters had their origins in the 30's 40' and 60's. Everything was like that. You have to get past you're love for source material. Just because it appears in a comic book doesn't mean it's infallible and above criticism. Also many people like the ultimate universe because it hasn't become as ****ed up with lame ret-cons that are everywhere to cover up lamer plot twists that have accumulated over the decades. Your arguing that there does not exist a movieverse is quite comical because it clearly does exist. Fact.


:huh:

[irapogi]

95% of comic book characters are white because the vast majority of popular characters had their origins in the 30's 40' and 60's. Everything was like that. You have to get past you're love for source material. Just because it appears in a comic book doesn't mean it's infallible and above criticism. Also many people like the ultimate universe because it hasn't become as ****ed up with lame ret-cons that are everywhere to cover up lamer plot twists that have accumulated over the decades. Your arguing that there does not exist a movieverse is quite comical because it clearly does exist. Fact.


:huh:

qft.

[Kirk 1701]

95% of comic book characters are white because the vast majority of popular characters had their origins in the 30's 40' and 60's. Everything was like that. You have to get past you're love for source material. Just because it appears in a comic book doesn't mean it's infallible and above criticism. Also many people like the ultimate universe because it hasn't become as ****ed up with lame ret-cons that are everywhere to cover up lamer plot twists that have accumulated over the decades. Your arguing that there does not exist a movieverse is quite comical because it clearly does exist. Fact.


:huh:

Where in the grand sence of your logic that a movie-verse exist? Where is your data to back up your post? Show me the proof and try to back it up with hard data.


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[Kirk 1701]

95% of comic book characters are white because the vast majority of popular characters had their origins in the 30's 40' and 60's. Everything was like that. You have to get past you're love for source material. Just because it appears in a comic book doesn't mean it's infallible and above criticism. Also many people like the ultimate universe because it hasn't become as ****ed up with lame ret-cons that are everywhere to cover up lamer plot twists that have accumulated over the decades. Your arguing that there does not exist a movieverse is quite comical because it clearly does exist. Fact.


:huh:

Yeah, get past the source material for a super-hero movie and get a movie like Catwoman. I don't think so. I would never waste my money on a movie like Catwoman.


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[Mal'Akai]

I'am sticking by my opinion. No one will change my mind about this strange movie-verse that Marvel has tried to created. I 'am sticking to my principles and wheather my opinion is right or wrong, it is for me to decide and no one else. You will never chance my mind. I don't think the Spider-Man, Daredevil, Fantantis Four, or Ghost Rider movies take place in your so call movie-verse. If these movies did take place in the movie-verse, where is your poof. It must be poof that I can read and cross references with other data.





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Spider-Man
Um, Spidey's web shooters were organic in the movie, something neither 616, nor Ultimates used. Also, in 616 the spider that bit him was radioactive, in the Ultimate it was genetically engineered, just like in the movie. So Spider-Man did pull from 616 and Ultimate.
Daredevil
Elektra's costume was straight out of Ultimate. And Kingpin was made black for the movie.
Fantastic Four
Even thought the "Cosmic Storm" origin was kept from 616, Doctor Doom got his powers in the same accident as the FF, just like in the Ultimates. He also transformed the same way he did in the Ultimates.
Ghost Rider
The only reason Ghost Rider didn't borrow from the Ultimates was because he wasn't in the Ultimates. But there were changes made for the movie. Most noteably Blackheart and Mephisto's designs.

Also, more proof that they exist in their own movie-verse is the most obvious. None of these four films ever give any mention to the others. Spider-man, Daredevil, and Fantastic Four all take place in New York City and yet never cross paths. Even X-Men is mainly in New York and it only ackwoledges Spider-Man in a gag reel.

[Mal'Akai]

Yeah, get past the source material for a super-hero movie and get a movie like Catwoman. I don't think so. I would never waste my money on a movie like Catwoman.


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But you will waste a lot of posts referencing it. Truth be told, it's actually worth watching just to see Halle Berry in that skimpy outfit.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Spider-Man
Um, Spidey's web shooters were organic in the movie, something neither 616, nor Ultimates used. Also, in 616 the spider that bit him was radioactive, in the Ultimate it was genetically engineered, just like in the movie. So Spider-Man did pull from 616 and Ultimate.
Daredevil
Elektra's costume was straight out of Ultimate. And Kingpin was made black for the movie.
Fantastic Four
Even thought the "Cosmic Storm" origin was kept from 616, Doctor Doom got his powers in the same accident as the FF, just like in the Ultimates. He also transformed the same way he did in the Ultimates.
Ghost Rider
The only reason Ghost Rider didn't borrow from the Ultimates was because he wasn't in the Ultimates. But there were changes made for the movie. Most noteably Blackheart and Mephisto's designs.

Also, more proof that they exist in their own movie-verse is the most obvious. None of these four films ever give any mention to the others. Spider-man, Daredevil, and Fantastic Four all take place in New York City and yet never cross paths. Even X-Men is mainly in New York and it only ackwoledges Spider-Man in a gag reel.

:up: These movies are all obviously in their own universe.

[JackIvyGB]

Let's do it this way: what is your definitive evidence that the movies are part of the 616 universe? Also, what is your reasoning in denying that the movies are in their own universe? Just want hear your opinion. I understand you dislike the Ultimate universe. There are a few people who wanted the classic white Fury in the films. No one is saying that films HAVE to use elements from the Ultimates. I personally love that the movies are blending the universes and developing even more new and exciting ways of telling classic stories for the big screen. Regardless of that though, it's nearly impossible to try and shoe horn the films into 616.

[Chewy]

There's no point arguing it.... it's very obvious these films are in their own universe. If he doesn't want to accept it, then let him continue to live in ignorance :o

[Daredevil_2003]

I understand your point of view. I dislike anything about the Ulimate Unverse. I do not want to see anything in any Marvel movies that deals with the Ultimate Universe. The Spider-Man movies, Ghost Rider movie, the Daredevil movie, and Fantastic Four movies do not take place in The Ultimate Universe. So why must we have the Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk movies located somewhere in between Universe 616 and the Ulitmate Universe? I think it is a conspiracy by Marvel and Marvel Entertainment to get more minority kids to buy more comc books and to go to the movies. That' why we have Sam Jackson as Nick Fury in the comics and in the films. The reason there is a black Nick Fury at all is because 95% of comic book heros in the DC and Marvel are white. The oppisite thing can be said about the NFL. 75% of the players in the NFL are black and 25% are white. Business is business, and they will do anything possible to get people in the movies or at the big game. Remeber companies are very greedy and they all need to be shut down! All of them!!! Time to go back to the Stone Age!




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[powerbomb1411]

Spider-Man
Um, Spidey's web shooters were organic in the movie, something neither 616, nor Ultimates used. Also, in 616 the spider that bit him was radioactive, in the Ultimate it was genetically engineered, just like in the movie. So Spider-Man did pull from 616 and Ultimate.
Daredevil
Elektra's costume was straight out of Ultimate. And Kingpin was made black for the movie.
Fantastic Four
Even thought the "Cosmic Storm" origin was kept from 616, Doctor Doom got his powers in the same accident as the FF, just like in the Ultimates. He also transformed the same way he did in the Ultimates.
Ghost Rider
The only reason Ghost Rider didn't borrow from the Ultimates was because he wasn't in the Ultimates. But there were changes made for the movie. Most noteably Blackheart and Mephisto's designs.

Also, more proof that they exist in their own movie-verse is the most obvious. None of these four films ever give any mention to the others. Spider-man, Daredevil, and Fantastic Four all take place in New York City and yet never cross paths. Even X-Men is mainly in New York and it only ackwoledges Spider-Man in a gag reel.
:up: These movies are all obviously in their own universe.

Which is considered part of a Movie-Verse. Each company has their own movie-verse.

Is it an official term? Doubt it.

But neither is 616.

(Just trying to add to the quotes of evidence.)

But seriously. No one can really be this ignorant right? This has all gotta just be a joke.

[Mal'Akai]

Which is considered part of a Movie-Verse. Each company has their own movie-verse.

Is it an official term? Doubt it.

But neither is 616.

(Just trying to add to the quotes of evidence.)

But seriously. No one can really be this ignorant right? This has all gotta just be a joke.
Hmm, and you've been posting here since May '06. There are plenty of posters here that are that ignorant.

[Kirk 1701]

Spider-Man
Um, Spidey's web shooters were organic in the movie, something neither 616, nor Ultimates used. Also, in 616 the spider that bit him was radioactive, in the Ultimate it was genetically engineered, just like in the movie. So Spider-Man did pull from 616 and Ultimate.
Daredevil
Elektra's costume was straight out of Ultimate. And Kingpin was made black for the movie.
Fantastic Four
Even thought the "Cosmic Storm" origin was kept from 616, Doctor Doom got his powers in the same accident as the FF, just like in the Ultimates. He also transformed the same way he did in the Ultimates.
Ghost Rider
The only reason Ghost Rider didn't borrow from the Ultimates was because he wasn't in the Ultimates. But there were changes made for the movie. Most noteably Blackheart and Mephisto's designs.

Also, more proof that they exist in their own movie-verse is the most obvious. None of these four films ever give any mention to the others. Spider-man, Daredevil, and Fantastic Four all take place in New York City and yet never cross paths. Even X-Men is mainly in New York and it only ackwoledges Spider-Man in a gag reel.

Your argument is that most of the super-hero movies exist in their own separate and different movie-verse. Right? If that is your argument, how can you have an Avengers movie? You are saying that the Spider-Man movies, Daredevil movie and so on, exist in different and total separated universes. That they are not connected in any way to Universe 616 or the Ultimate Universe and are totally seaparated. If that is your argument,we will never see characters like Spider-Man, Thor, Beast, Wolverine, Mister Fantastic, The Thing, and the Invisible Woman as Avengers.That these characters all exist in a different and separate universe. That they will make no connection to Iron Man, War Machine, She-Hulk, The Hulk, Black Widow, Captain America, and Hawkeye, and that they will exist in a universe different than Spider-Man, The X-Men, or The Fantastic Four. Even though, all these characters have been Avengers, West Coast Avengers, or New Avengers at one time in their life. Also, were can I see that gag reel of Spider-Man?



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[Kirk 1701]

Spider-Man
Um, Spidey's web shooters were organic in the movie, something neither 616, nor Ultimates used. Also, in 616 the spider that bit him was radioactive, in the Ultimate it was genetically engineered, just like in the movie. So Spider-Man did pull from 616 and Ultimate.
Daredevil
Elektra's costume was straight out of Ultimate. And Kingpin was made black for the movie.
Fantastic Four
Even thought the "Cosmic Storm" origin was kept from 616, Doctor Doom got his powers in the same accident as the FF, just like in the Ultimates. He also transformed the same way he did in the Ultimates.
Ghost Rider
The only reason Ghost Rider didn't borrow from the Ultimates was because he wasn't in the Ultimates. But there were changes made for the movie. Most noteably Blackheart and Mephisto's designs.

Also, more proof that they exist in their own movie-verse is the most obvious. None of these four films ever give any mention to the others. Spider-man, Daredevil, and Fantastic Four all take place in New York City and yet never cross paths. Even X-Men is mainly in New York and it only ackwoledges Spider-Man in a gag reel.


I agree with you about Spider-Man's Web Shooters on being organic. That makes perfect sense to me. Since real spiders make their own webbing. It is only logical that Spide-Man would be able to make his own webbing. If memory serves me right, I think Stan Lee would also agree with that statement.

The reason Kingpin was black is for two reason. First, movies are portray as an art form and since art reflects real life in some manner. It makes perfect sense to me that a black man would play the Kingpin. More black men in real life commit more crime than any other race living here in America. Also, there are more black men in prision nowadays, then other races. Second, the shear size of Micheal Ducan Clark made sense. I don't think anyone in Hollywood is as big as Clark.

I really did not like the ending of Fantantis Four: Rise of the Silver Surver. The first one was much bettter than the second. I can not understand Tim Story's resonsoning for using a sentinel Cosmic Storm instead of putting a fifty foot alien in a purple costume on the silver screen. I guess he felt it was to ridiculous to put on film. I personal felt that he ran out of money for the film, even though he had a budget of $130M to do the film.

Sorry, I'am old school when it comes to Comic Books. I rather read books from the 60's, 70's, and 80's. I'am not a big fan of the books from the 90's or nowadays. I'am a fan of Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, Alan Moore, and Chris Claremont. I' don't like change too much, especially when it comes to Comic Books. Hell, I didn't vote for Obama. I'am still waiting for all the change he promise during his campaign. Still waiting and waiting.



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[Kirk 1701]

95% of comic book characters are white because the vast majority of popular characters had their origins in the 30's 40' and 60's. Everything was like that. You have to get past you're love for source material. Just because it appears in a comic book doesn't mean it's infallible and above criticism. Also many people like the ultimate universe because it hasn't become as ****ed up with lame ret-cons that are everywhere to cover up lamer plot twists that have accumulated over the decades. Your arguing that there does not exist a movieverse is quite comical because it clearly does exist. Fact.


:huh:
You can get mad all you want, I'am still not buying this load of crap about this so called movie-verse or the Ultimate Universe! Not buying it! I grew up with Universe 616 and I'am sticking by it! I hope this line of Ultimate Universe books loses sales and they take the whole line off the market!

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[ayakazoob]

You can get mad all you want, I'am still not buying this load of crap about this so called movie-verse or the Ulimate Universe. Not buying it. I grew up with the 616 Universe and I'am sticking by it. I hope this line of Ulimate Universe books loses sales and they take the whole line off the market.

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I'm not mad. I'm actually tremendously amused at your stubborn logic. You're mad.

Why would you want the whole Ultimates line off the market? If you don't like it then don't read it. This is the 21st century. You don't have to listen to the same music, watch the same movies, or read the same books as everyone else. There are choices. Just let the people who enjoy other things enjoy them. YOU can make the Ultimate universe disappear for your self by not reading it.

Also, maybe you should say everything you need to say in reply to a post IN ONE POST?! You've already quoted my post three times and have done the same thing to others. Are you just trying to get a high post count?

I hope you're a troll, but i don't think so.

[powerbomb1411]

Hmm, and you've been posting here since May '06. There are plenty of posters here that are that ignorant.

And most of them have been very sporadic. It's only been recently that I have been posting more.

Your argument is that most of the super-hero movies exist in their own separate and different movie-verse. Right? If that is your argument, how can you have an Avengers movie? You are saying that the Spider-Man movies, Daredevil movie and so on, exist in different and total separated universes. That they are not connected in any way to Universe 616 or the Ulitimate Universe and are totally seaparated. If that is your argument,we will never see characters like Spider-Man, Thor, Beast, Wolverine, Mister Fantastic, The Thing, and the Invisible Woman as Avengers.That these characters all exist in a different and separate universe. That they will make no connection to Iron Man, War Machine, She-Hulk, The Hulk, Black Widow, Captain America, and Hawkeye, and that they will exist in a universe different than Spider-Man, The X-Men, or the Fantastic Four. Even though, all these characters have been Avengers, West Coast Avengers, or New Avengers at one time in their life. Also, were can I see that gag reel of Spider-Man?



:im::im::im::im:

Now you're getting it. For quite a while we were not going to get An Avengers movie. But then the rights reverted back to Marvel for the core members. Because of that Marvel is able to have Iron Man, Cap, Thor, Ant-Man, Widow, Hawkeye, Hulk among many others in the same film.

You can get mad all you want, I'am still not buying this load of crap about this so called movie-verse or the Ultimate Universe! Not buying it! I grew up with Universe 616 and I'am sticking by it! I hope this line of Ultimate Universe books loses sales and they take the whole line off the market!

:im::im::im::im:

This "Universe 616" you speak of what is it? I've heard of it. But I've looked it up. No Marvel official has acknowledged that it exists.

[Kirk 1701]

I'm not mad. I'm actually tremendously amused at your stubborn logic. You're mad.

Why would you want the whole Ultimates line off the market? If you don't like it then don't read it. This is the 21st century. You don't have to listen to the same music, watch the same movies, or read the same books as everyone else. There are choices. Just let the people who enjoy other things enjoy them. YOU can make the Ultimate universe disappear for your self by not reading it.

Also, maybe you should say everything you need to say in reply to a post IN ONE POST?! You've already quoted my post three times and have done the same thing to others. Are you just trying to get a high post count?

I hope you're a troll, but i don't think so.


You got a very good point. I'am stubborn and I still won't change my mind about the movie-verse or the Ultimate Universe. So I must be quite mad and I love it.


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[Kirk 1701]

And most of them have been very sporadic. It's only been recently that I have been posting more.



Now you're getting it. For quite a while we were not going to get An Avengers movie. But then the rights reverted back to Marvel for the core members. Because of that Marvel is able to have Iron Man, Cap, Thor, Ant-Man, Widow, Hawkeye, Hulk among many others in the same film.



This "Universe 616" you speak of what is it? I've heard of it. But I've looked it up. No Marvel official has acknowledged that it exists.


If you go to Wikipedia and look under Multiverse Marvel Comics you will find the Earth-616 Universe. This is the main universe seen in Marvel Comics. Also, I don't see a listing for this so called movie-verse. I think comic book fans just made it up. Beside, Marvel needs to get rid of some of their Multiverse Universes. They must have at least fifty or more different universes.They have way too many for my taste. It's hard for some fans to keep track of what stories and what universe things take place in. Let get rid of the Ulimate Universe first. For explampe, Earth-928 is know as the Marvel 2099 Universe. The Ulitmate Universe is also known as the Earth-1610 universe.



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[WillardNation]

I just think it's funny that you think it made sense to make Kingpin black because he's a criminal. That didn't come across as racist AT ALL....

[Mal'Akai]

Your argument is that most of the super-hero movies exist in their own separate and different movie-verse. Right? If that is your argument, how can you have an Avengers movie? You are saying that the Spider-Man movies, Daredevil movie and so on, exist in different and total separated universes. That they are not connected in any way to Universe 616 or the Ultimate Universe and are totally seaparated. If that is your argument,we will never see characters like Spider-Man, Thor, Beast, Wolverine, Mister Fantastic, The Thing, and the Invisible Woman as Avengers.That these characters all exist in a different and separate universe. That they will make no connection to Iron Man, War Machine, She-Hulk, The Hulk, Black Widow, Captain America, and Hawkeye, and that they will exist in a universe different than Spider-Man, The X-Men, or The Fantastic Four. Even though, all these characters have been Avengers, West Coast Avengers, or New Avengers at one time in their life. Also, were can I see that gag reel of Spider-Man?



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No, that is not my argument. I was pointing out that the four films you listed as not existing in a movie-verse, but rather the 616 universe, do exist in the movie-verse. A point you totally missed.

See the movie-verse is it's own stand alone universe, seperate from 616 and Ultimates. It pulls from both 616 and Ultimates, while simply making other parts up entirely.
If the Marvel films were exact translations from the original 616, they wouldn't work. The source material is dated, and every film would have to be set in different timelines. You would also have the problem that multiple characters were created at different times. So X-Men, for example, would have to be set in 1962. And in order to add Wolverine, created in 1974, you would need to age all of the X-Men 12 years. You see the problem this creates? (Probably not)
My point is hat, wether you accept it or not, the movie-verse is very real and will continue to exist as long as comic book movies continue to be popular.


I agree with you about Spider-Man's Web Shooters on being organic. That makes perfect sense to me. Since real spiders make their own webbing. It is only logical that Spider-Man would be able to make his own webbing. If memory serves me right, I think Stan Lee would also agree with that statement.

The reason Kingpin was black is for two reason. First, movies are portray as an art form and since art reflects real life in some manner. It makes perfect sense to me that a black man would play the Kingpin. More black men in real life commit more crime than any other race living here in America. Also, there are more black men in prision nowadays, then other races. Second, the shear size of Micheal Ducan Clark made sense. I don't think anyone in Hollywood is as big as Clark.

I really did not like the ending of Fantantis Four: Rise of the Silver Surver. The first one was much bettter than the second. I can not understand Tim Story's resonsoning for using a sentinel Cosmic Storm instead of putting a fifty foot alien in a purple costume on the silver screen. I guess he felt it was to ridiculous to put on film. I personal felt that he ran out of money for the film, even though he had a budget of $130M to do the film.

Sorry, I'am old school when it comes to Comic Books. I rather read books from the 60's, 70's, and 80's. I'am not a big fan of the books from the 90's or nowadays. I'am a fan of Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, Alan Moore, and Chris Claremont. I' don't like change too much, especially when it comes to Comic Books. Hell, I didn't vote for Obama. I'am still waiting for all the change he promise during his campaign. Still waiting and waiting.

The red parts are directly contradicted by the bold black print.
Also, you did not really acknowledge any of my points as proof that there is a movie-verse. You said that these films exist in the 616, yet I showed you how they pulled from Ultimates, and even made some stuff up completely. Any time you change the continuity of the comic book, you create a seperate universe. Get over it.


The gag reel showing the X-Men encountering Spider-Man is on the X-Men Special Edition DVD in an easter egg.

[kaijunexus]

This is all very easily explained.

The comics and films are separate entities. Period.

However, it would seem that any superhero franchise produced by a studio other than Marvel is completely standalone, lacking any interaction with another franchise, even one of the same studio.

Marvel is now in the process of creating what I like to believe is the "Official Marvel Movie-verse". In my opinion, anything created directly by Marvel Studios is movie-verse canon. This means that other studios' franchises (Sony's Spider-Man, Fox's X-Men, etc.) are re-imaginings of the characters, while Marvel-made Spider-Man or X-Men films would be canon in the Marvel movie-verse.

[Infinity9999x]

Your argument is that most of the super-hero movies exist in their own separate and different movie-verse. Right? If that is your argument, how can you have an Avengers movie? You are saying that the Spider-Man movies, Daredevil movie and so on, exist in different and total separated universes. That they are not connected in any way to Universe 616 or the Ultimate Universe and are totally seaparated. If that is your argument,we will never see characters like Spider-Man, Thor, Beast, Wolverine, Mister Fantastic, The Thing, and the Invisible Woman as Avengers.That these characters all exist in a different and separate universe. That they will make no connection to Iron Man, War Machine, She-Hulk, The Hulk, Black Widow, Captain America, and Hawkeye, and that they will exist in a universe different than Spider-Man, The X-Men, or The Fantastic Four. Even though, all these characters have been Avengers, West Coast Avengers, or New Avengers at one time in their life. Also, were can I see that gag reel of Spider-Man?



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That is correct, we won't. And you know why? Because Marvel doesn't own the film rights to any of those characters. So no, unless Sony and Fox let go of X-men, F4, and Spidey, we will never see them in an Avengers movie.

I don't know if you browse the Hulk threads, but the Hulk's fight in the college scene was actually supposed to be in New York at Spider-man's college. Sony wouldn't even let Marvel use the name Empire University.

And trying to argue that the movies are in the same universe as the comics is ridiculous. Just look at all the changes that were made. Gwen Stacy doesn't even know Peter before the Green Goblin dies, Sandman is Uncle Ben's real killer, Harry doesn't even call himself a Goblin, Mary Jane now want's to be an actress instead of a model, Spider-man has organic webshooters and is bitten by a genetically altered spider instead of a radioactive one.

All the movies have substantial changes from the comics. They aren't in the same universe at all.

[Kirk 1701]

No, that is not my argument. I was pointing out that the four films you listed as not existing in a movie-verse, but rather the 616 universe, do exist in the movie-verse. A point you totally missed.

See the movie-verse is it's own stand alone universe, seperate from 616 and Ultimates. It pulls from both 616 and Ultimates, while simply making other parts up entirely.
If the Marvel films were exact translations from the original 616, they wouldn't work. The source material is dated, and every film would have to be set in different timelines. You would also have the problem that multiple characters were created at different times. So X-Men, for example, would have to be set in 1962. And in order to add Wolverine, created in 1974, you would need to age all of the X-Men 12 years. You see the problem this creates? (Probably not)
My point is hat, wether you accept it or not, the movie-verse is very real and will continue to exist as long as comic book movies continue to be popular.



The red parts are directly contradicted by the bold black print.
Also, you did not really acknowledge any of my points as proof that there is a movie-verse. You said that these films exist in the 616, yet I showed you how they pulled from Ultimates, and even made some stuff up completely. Any time you change the continuity of the comic book, you create a seperate universe. Get over it.


The gag reel showing the X-Men encountering Spider-Man is on the X-Men Special Edition DVD in an easter egg.



You may have some valid ponts in your arguements and I respect you for standing on your principles. I still DO NOT believe in this movie-verse. I guess I'am just extremly stubborn and ignorant of the fact. Unless Marvel or Marvel Entertainmain acknoweledges and goes on record that a separate universe exist outside Eath-616 and The Ulitmate Universe. I'am not buying it. So I guess you need to get a hold of Marvel, because I want there take on the subject. Look!, we are never gone to see eye to eye on this matter. I'am not gone to change your mind and you'll never convince me on this matter. You can call me an idot and that's your right. Still not changing my mind or getting over it. So lets move on!



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[The Squirrel]

So where do you think the movies take place in? Because it's not in 616 or Ultimate. Especially since a lot of the heroes all split up among different Studios.

[Mal'Akai]

You may have some valid ponts in your arguements and I respect you for standing on your principles. I still DO NOT believe in this movie-verse. I guess I'am just extremly stubborn and ignorant of the fact. Unless Marvel or Marvel Entertainmain acknoweledges and goes on record that a separate universe exist outside Eath-616 and The Ulitmate Universe. I'am not buying it. So I guess you need to get a hold of Marvel, because I want there take on the subject. Look!, we are never gone to see eye to eye on this matter. I'am not gone to change your mind and you'll never convince me on this matter. You can call me an idot and that's your right. Still not changing my mind or getting over it. So lets move on!



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I was going to ask...
So where do you think the movies take place in? Because it's not in 616 or Ultimate. Especially since a lot of the heroes all split up among different Studios.
But The Squirrel beat me to it.

[Kirk 1701]

I was going to ask...

But The Squirrel beat me to it.

That's a very good question that Marvel needs to address. I mainly blame Marvel for all this confusion. They loan out all the copyright material of their frachise to different studios in Hollywood. The agrument that you offer is, that if you have a Sony picture with Spider-Man, you can not have an X-Men movie from Fox exist in the same universe. There is some sense in that statement. Instead of going with only one studio and coming out with movies from that one studio, they decide to do the opposite. This is were that so call movie-verse comes from. Now I know that Marvel Entertainment is know were as big as Warner Brothers. When it comes to DC or Warner Brothers Movies (not the comics) that they do not have a problem with this so call movie-verse. All or most of their heros will come out under the Warner Brothers banner. Now I don't accept the Catwoman movie as a true blue DC movie and that it never existed in the DC universe. Warner Brothers in my opinion, really messed that movie up. They forgot about or didn't care about the source material. We both know when Batman Begins and Superman Returns came out, the two movies made the connection that both franchises took place in the same universe. Hopefully, the same will be said about The Green Lantern movie and futher DC movies. I think Marvel needs to answer a lot of questions of were their universes exist in the movies. Either the heros take place in Earth-616, the Ulitmate universe, both universes,or some where in between, or somewhere else. Your guess is good as mine.



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[Chewy]

That's a very good question that Marvel needs to address. I mainly blame Marvel for all this confusion.
There isn't any confusion

People have been incredibly clear attempting to explain this to you

If you haven't gotten it by now, I don't think you will

[Kirk 1701]

There isn't any confusion

People have been incredibly clear attempting to explain this to you

If you haven't gotten it by now, I don't think you will


I don't think I will either. I guess that why DC and Warner Brothers will always be superior in the movie business than Marvel. The Marvel Universe is too ridiculous. I guess Marvel will never have one movie that makes $1B in worldwide movie sales, like Batman The Dark Knight. The Avengers movie will never make that kind of money. As long as they have Sam Jackson attach to the movie. I hope the Avenger movie fails, even before they write a script, Hopefully, it will be too expensive. I rather see it fail.



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[Chewy]

Right. Avengers will fail at the box office, because they cast a well known man in a lead role who happens to be a different race than he was in the original source material.

Good call :up:

[Kirk 1701]

Right. Avengers will fail at the box office, because they cast a well known man in a lead role who happens to be a different race than he was in the original source material.

Good call :up:


Why thank you.

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[Daredevil_2003]

Given that it's my right, apparently, I feel obligated to say that you're an idiot. Period. And probably a troll.

Ah. That feels a little better.

[ayakazoob]

Given that it's my right, apparently, I feel obligated to say that you're an idiot. Period. And probably a troll.

Ah. That feels a little better.

I'd like to add probable racist to that.:hehe:

[Kirk 1701]

I'd like to add probable racist to that.:hehe:


I just laugh and laugh,because I'am quite mad. Your words have no meaning in my life. I will always be your superior. HA! HA! HA!


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[powerbomb1411]

He's gotta be a troll. That's the only logical explanation I can think of. And right now he's probably laughing at us for keeping this going as long as it has.

So who's the real idiot? Him for either not knowing or his lack of ability to use grammar or spelling.

Or us for still talking to him?

[Shivsguy616]

I'am sticking by my opinion. No one will change my mind about this strange movie-verse that Marvel has tried to created. I 'am sticking to my principles and wheather my opinion is right or wrong, it is for me to decide and no one else. You will never chance my mind. I don't think the Spider-Man, Daredevil, Fantantis Four, or Ghost Rider movies take place in your so call movie-verse. If these movies did take place in the movie-verse, where is your poof. It must be poof that I can read and cross references with other data.





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So are you saying you think the Spider-man film took place in the 616 universe?

Because in the 616 universe, Parker doesn't have organic webs. In the 616 universe the green goblin suit isn't an adapted army flight suit. In the 616 universe Sandman didn't kill Ben. In the 616 universe Eddie is a weightlifter... Shall I go on?

You're simply wrong. Accept it.

[Shivsguy616]

I guess that why DC and Warner Brothers will always be superior in the movie business than Marvel.

You're wrong there too actually. And since you can't argue with cold hard figures, I'll give them to you. Marvel films have made a total of $ 6,347,064,139, whereas DC films have only made $ 3,821,826,661.
Now If you think that this is just because Marvel have made more films then, well, you'd be wrong again. Taking the average, we get;

Marvel: $ 244,117,851.50 Per film.

DC: $ 191,091,333.05 Per film.

Which means, each Marvel film on average, makes $53,026,518.45 more.

Next time, look at the figures before making outrageous claims. It is pretty clear that, making an average of more than 53million more than DC per film, Marvel is without a doubt: "superior in the movie business".

[FlawlessVictory]

This Marvel vs. DC stuff is so incredibly lame. Are we in grade school? I just hope for both companies to put out quality entertainment and that both are successful.

[The Squirrel]

This Marvel vs. DC stuff is so incredibly lame. Are we in grade school? I just hope for both companies to put out quality entertainment and that both are successful.

Agreed.

[Mal'Akai]

I don't think I will either. I guess that why DC and Warner Brothers will always be superior in the movie business than Marvel. The Marvel Universe is too ridiculous. I guess Marvel will never have one movie that makes $1B in worldwide movie sales, like Batman The Dark Knight. The Avengers movie will never make that kind of money. As long as they have Sam Jackson attach to the movie. I hope the Avenger movie fails, even before they write a script, Hopefully, it will be too expensive. I rather see it fail.



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Yeah, DC doesn't create any kind of movie-verse where Ras Al Ghul trained Bruce Wayne, and Superman had a son with Lois Lane. They never change anything when going from comic to screen.
:whatever:

[xisaacx]

back on topic, I cant wait for Samuel L Jackson to appear in these movies.

[Kirk 1701]

back on topic, I cant wait for Samuel L Jackson to appear in these movies.

Not me. Hopefully, Sam Jackson will have a heart attack or some kind of illness before filming begins.


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[Kirk 1701]

You're wrong there too actually. And since you can't argue with cold hard figures, I'll give them to you. Marvel films have made a total of $ 6,347,064,139, whereas DC films have only made $ 3,821,826,661.
Now If you think that this is just because Marvel have made more films then, well, you'd be wrong again. Taking the average, we get;

Marvel: $ 244,117,851.50 Per film.

DC: $ 191,091,333.05 Per film.

Which means, each Marvel film on average, makes $53,026,518.45 more.

Next time, look at the figures before making outrageous claims. It is pretty clear that, making an average of more than 53million more than DC per film, Marvel is without a doubt: "superior in the movie business".




Where did you get your information? I would like to see the figures for myself.

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[Kirk 1701]

He's gotta be a troll. That's the only logical explanation I can think of. And right now he's probably laughing at us for keeping this going as long as it has.

So who's the real idiot? Him for either not knowing or his lack of ability to use grammar or spelling.

Or us for still talking to him?

What the hell is wrong with my spelling? What words that you know of, that I have misspelled? What is wrong with my grammer? Are you some kind of teacher?

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[Kirk 1701]

Yeah, DC doesn't create any kind of movie-verse where Ras Al Ghul trained Bruce Wayne, and Superman had a son with Lois Lane. They never change anything when going from comic to screen.
:whatever:


I admit I was wrong on that last post.


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[The Squirrel]

Not me. Hopefully, Sam Jackson will have a heart attack or some kind of illness before filming begins.


:im::im::im::im:

Well at least now we know you aren't a decent human being.

[Kirk 1701]

Well at least now we know you aren't a decent human being.

I 'am out for power, women, and money. The hell with the rest. More power, money, and women is all I need in this life.


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[irapogi]

when the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
-jimi hendrix

[Kirk 1701]

Well at least now we know you aren't a decent human being.

What's the point of being a decent human being in a world that doesn't care about people. A world were the rich keeps on getting richer and the poor keeps getting poorer. A world that has enough nuclear weapons to kill every man and woman. We live in a ME generation and we really don't care about people outside of our own family. So I will follow society's rule of thumb and worry about my own affairs. The hell with everyone else. I'am quite sane, it's the rest of the world that is insane.


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[ayakazoob]

What's the point of being a decent human being in a world that doesn't care about people. A world were the rich keep on getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer. A world that has enough nuclear weapons to kill every man and woman. We live in a ME generation and we really don't care about people outside of our own family. So I will follow society's rule of thumb and worrry about my own affairs. The hell with everyone else. I'am quite sane, it's the rest of the world that is insane.


:bh::bh::bh::bh:


Enjoy your life then.

[Mal'Akai]

What the hell is wrong with my spelling? What words that you know of, that I have misspelled? What is wrong with my grammer? Are you some kind of teacher?

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Ummm. He's probably not a teacher, but your poor spelling and grammar do make your posts hard to read.
What's the point of being a decent human being in a world that doesn't care about people. A world were the rich keep on getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer. A world that has enough nuclear weapons to kill every man and woman. We live in a ME generation and we really don't care about people outside of our own family. So I will follow society's rule of thumb and worrry about my own affairs. The hell with everyone else. I'am quite sane, it's the rest of the world that is insane.


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This is what MS Word feels is wrong with the above post.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n237/mkrolfe/word.jpg

[Mal'Akai]

I admit I was wrong on that last post.


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This needs to be framed and saved.

[Kirk 1701]

This needs to be framed and saved.


Ok, I guess this is English 101. I did add a extra r to worry. I'am is a word according to Webster. Where else did I go wrong? Just asking?


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[Shivsguy616]

Ok, I guess this is English 101. I did add a extra r to worry. I'am is a word according to Webster. Where else did I go wrong? Just asking?


:im::im::im::im:

It should be an extra, not "a extra". Also, I'am is not a word. I'm is a word.

[Shivsguy616]

Where did you get your information? I would like to see the figures for myself.

:im::im::im::im:

Mainly boxofficemojo.

Lol, interesting how you ignored my other post. Especially since it proves you wrong.

[powerbomb1411]

What the hell is wrong with my spelling? What words that you know of, that I have misspelled? What is wrong with my grammer? Are you some kind of teacher?

:im::im::im::im:

Your flaws in grammar and spelling have already been pointed out.

No, I am not a teacher. I'm one of many aspiring comic writers. I pay an editor money and he tells me what I did wrong. I am by no means a grammar Nazi, but your posts are out of control.

[The Squirrel]

What the hell is wrong with my spelling? What words that you know of, that I have misspelled? What is wrong with my grammer? Are you some kind of teacher?

:im::im::im::im:

:hehe:

Even the Hype's spell check tells you that is spelled wrong.

[Spider-Vader]

Not me. Hopefully, Sam Jackson will have a heart attack or some kind of illness before filming begins.


:im::im::im::im:

You're a sick mother f***er.

I hope a meteor falls down & only damages your house, so you're forced to be a bum on the streets.

[Chewy]

I wonder if Kirk 1701, with all of his "I just can't believe Nick Fury is being played by a black man! This is outrageous! This is why DC movies will always be better!", is aware that Billy Dee Williams played Harvey Dent :hehe:

[Mal'Akai]

I wonder if Kirk 1701, with all of his "I just can't believe Nick Fury is being played by a black man! This is outrageous! This is why DC movies will always be better!", is aware that Billy Dee Williams played Harvey Dent :hehe:
I already busted him on the DC movie-verse.
Yeah, DC doesn't create any kind of movie-verse where Ras Al Ghul trained Bruce Wayne, and Superman had a son with Lois Lane. They never change anything when going from comic to screen.
:whatever:
Which he admitted be wrong about.
I admit I was wrong on that last post.


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[Spider-Vader]

Maybe he thinks 'Batman Forever' is superior to the Burton movies. Wouldn't surprise me.

[Daredevil_2003]

Maybe you should stop feeding him. Eventually, he will grow tired and return to his bridge.

[Kirk 1701]

I already busted him on the DC movie-verse.

Which he admitted be wrong about.



I had a hard time back in 1989 that Billy Dee Williams was playing Havey Dent\ Two-Face. Even though, the role was a small one. How would you feel if Blade was white? I just want Mavel and DC to stay focus, when it comes to the source material. I grew up with these characters in the 70's and 80's. It's a real shame that the companies are trying to be political correct and forcing these chararters changes down our throats. Sorry, I'am not a PC person and I don't believe in affirmative action. When they come out with a movie, that has an all black cast. How many people in the movie are white? If you can, name one.

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[Kirk 1701]

Maybe he thinks 'Batman Forever' is superior to the Burton movies. Wouldn't surprise me.


I do think Batman Forever is superior to Catwoman, Superman III, Superman IV, Supergirl, Howard the Duck, and Batman and Robin.


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[Kirk 1701]

You're a sick mother f***er.

I hope a meteor falls down & only damages your house, so you're forced to be a bum on the streets.


Why thank you! I mean every word I said about Jackson. Just to get him out of super-hero films. That's my opinion, my right, and I'am sticking to it.


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[ayakazoob]

When they come out with a movie with an all black cast, how many white people are in the movie?

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Is this a riddle?

[Kirk 1701]

Maybe you should stop feeding him. Eventually, he will grow tired and return to his bridge.


I'am enjoying myself way too much. Besides, if I did return to the bridge, you guys would be under my command.


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[Kirk 1701]

Is this a riddle?


No!!! It's a question.


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[Kirk 1701]

It should be an extra, not "a extra". Also, I'am is not a word. I'm is a word.


Well, according to Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. The word "I'am" is a word. Look it up if you don't believe me.



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[Kirk 1701]

You're wrong there too actually. And since you can't argue with cold hard figures, I'll give them to you. Marvel films have made a total of $ 6,347,064,139, whereas DC films have only made $ 3,821,826,661.
Now If you think that this is just because Marvel have made more films then, well, you'd be wrong again. Taking the average, we get;

Marvel: $ 244,117,851.50 Per film.

DC: $ 191,091,333.05 Per film.

Which means, each Marvel film on average, makes $53,026,518.45 more.

Next time, look at the figures before making outrageous claims. It is pretty clear that, making an average of more than 53million more than DC per film, Marvel is without a doubt: "superior in the movie business".


I don't know were you got your information or figures. I really don't care. Your agrument is that Marvel or Marvel Entertainment is more successful than DC or Warner Brothers in the film industry. If memory serves me right, didn't Marvel file for Chapter 11 in the 90's? Wasn't the company sold to different buyers? I could be wrong about this statement, but I have never heard of DC or Warner Brothers filing for Chapter 11 or being sold on the stock market. Marvel may be making a lot more money from their films than DC, but I still feel that Warner Brothers and DC Comics are more successful in business than Marvel will ever be.



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[Kirk 1701]

Maybe he thinks 'Batman Forever' is superior to the Burton movies. Wouldn't surprise me.


You do know that Tim Burton was the producer on Batman Forever.

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[Kirk 1701]

You're a sick mother f***er.

I hope a meteor falls down & only damages your house, so you're forced to be a bum on the streets.


Apparently, you don't own a house. When you get a mortgage from the bank or a mortgage lender, you also need to get insurance on the house. The lender for the house needs to protect their investment. So I don't think I would be on the streets for long.


:spidey::spidey::spidey::spidey:

[Kirk 1701]

Your flaws in grammar and spelling have already been pointed out.

No, I am not a teacher. I'm one of many aspiring comic writers. I pay an editor money and he tells me what I did wrong. I am by no means a grammar Nazi, but your posts are out of control.

My posts may be out of control. I'am quite sane, it's the rest of the world that's insane.


:bh::bh::bh::bh:

[WillardNation]

is it that hard to respond in one post? sweet Jesus, you're an idiot.

[Kirk 1701]

is it that hard to respond in one post? sweet Jesus, you're an idiot.


Sorry about all the posts, but are you afraid to do some reading? Just asking? Is there a limit on how many posts, I can post?


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[Shivsguy616]

I don't know were you got your information or figures. I really don't care. Your agrument is that Marvel or Marvel Entertainment is more successful than DC or Warner Brothers in the film industry. If memory serves me right, didn't Marvel file for Chapter 11 in the 90's? Wasn't the company sold to different buyers? I could be wrong about this statement, but I have never heard of DC or Warner Brothers filing for Chapter 11 or being sold on the stock market. Marvel may be making a lot more money from their films than DC, but I still feel that Warner Brothers and DC Comics are more successful in business than Marvel will ever be.



:im::im::im::im:

Lol.

Also, I already told you where the figures came from. Can't you read?

[Shivsguy616]

Well, according to Merriam-Wester Online Dictionary. The word "I'am" is a word. Look it up if you don't believe me.



:im::im:

I assume you mean Webster and not Wester...

I did look it up. You are wrong. There are no entries for "I'am". The only suggestion that comes up is "IAM", short for International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers.

Now, if you think you can show me a definition of the word "I'am", and you clearly do, then simply link to the definition. If you cannot, then once again you are wrong.

[Kirk 1701]

Lol.

Also, I already told you where the figures came from. Can't you read?


Lol. Yes I can, and very well! Thank You! I just need to brush up on my spelling and a few other things. All in good fun.



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[Kirk 1701]

I assume you mean Webster and not Wester...

I did look it up. You are wrong. There are no entries for "I'am". The only suggestion that comes up is "IAM", short for International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers.

Now, if you think you can show me a definition of the word "I'am", and you clearly do, then simply link to the definition. If you cannot, then once again you are wrong.


Ok, you got me this time.

[Shivsguy616]

Ok, you got me this time.

And the last two times to boot.

[Mal'Akai]

Kirk, do you know a former poster called Moviefan2k4, by any chance?

[Infinity9999x]

You do know that Tim Burton was the producer on Batman Forever.

:im::im::im::im:

He was only listed as a producer because Schumacher got his blessing. He never actually did any work on it. Schumacher just listed him as producer as a way of saying thank you.

[ironman29758]

I don't think I will either. I guess that why DC and Warner Brothers will always be superior in the movie business than Marvel. The Marvel Universe is too ridiculous. I guess Marvel will never have one movie that makes $1B in worldwide movie sales, like Batman The Dark Knight. The Avengers movie will never make that kind of money. As long as they have Sam Jackson attach to the movie. I hope the Avenger movie fails, even before they write a script, Hopefully, it will be too expensive. I rather see it fail.



:im::im::im::im:

I'm really mad that you said that the movie will fail because of one man. This is the modern worl/a more diverse world not like the 1960 marvel universe where everyon is caucasian this world has more diversity like african american, oriential, hispanic etc.. If it works in Ultimate Marvel and Spectacualar Spider-man it works on some level. I'm african american so I feel a little anger with this. also Iron Man the movie and Incredible Hulk made a lot of money(well not IH because of Ang Lee Hulk movie) and they took elements from various form of the comics(from Ultimate/Earth-1610 and Earth 616/Main Marvel Universe) plus their own unique ideas/more realistic and place it in the modern day. They did the same thing with the Dark Knight. I wonder if you got angry if the Joker wears makeup and have a Glassglow smile scar instead of the bleached chemical face.

[Kirk 1701]

Kirk, do you know a former poster called Moviefan2k4, by any chance?


No!

[sdc10]

I don't think I will either. I guess that why DC and Warner Brothers will always be superior in the movie business than Marvel. The Marvel Universe is too ridiculous. I guess Marvel will never have one movie that makes $1B in worldwide movie sales, like Batman The Dark Knight. The Avengers movie will never make that kind of money. As long as they have Sam Jackson attach to the movie. I hope the Avenger movie fails, even before they write a script, Hopefully, it will be too expensive. I rather see it fail.



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The marvel universe is too ridiculous? at least marvel doesnt have to rewrite its main continuity every two years

[Chewy]

Why continue arguing with him? He's obviously just ****ing around

[powerbomb1411]

No!

I will not be at all surprised if you get banned shortly.

[Kirk 1701]

I'm really mad that you said that the movie will fail because of one man. This is the modern worl/a more diverse world not like the 1960 marvel universe where everyon is caucasian this world has more diversity like african american, oriential, hispanic etc.. If it works in Ultimate Marvel and Spectacualar Spider-man it works on some level. I'm african american so I feel a little anger with this. also Iron Man the movie and Incredible Hulk made a lot of money(well not IH because of Ang Lee Hulk movie) and they took elements from various form of the comics(from Ultimate/Earth-1610 and Earth 616/Main Marvel Universe) plus their own unique ideas/more realistic and place it in the modern day. They did the same thing with the Dark Knight. I wonder if you got angry if the Joker wears makeup and have a Glassglow smile scar instead of the bleached chemical face.


Get Mad! I really don't care! I have every right to my opinion. Just like you have your opinion. You can either agree with me or disagree with me. It makes no diifference to me. This is a public domain and I do believe in freedom of speech. I will stick by my opinion of Samuel Jackson. I guess you would call me a racist, if I told you I didn't vote for Obama. I think Obama will go down in history as the worst american presidents of the 21th century. I respect the Executive Office of the President of the United States, but not the current man that resides in the office. That is my opinion. You can share it or don't.



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[Kirk 1701]

I will not be at all surprised if you get banned shortly.


Why do you say that. Not allow to use freedom of speech and speak your mind. I guess we have a lot of liberals on this website. You guys need to watch more of Bill O' Reilly and Sean Hannity. Oh well, it won't change me. I'm not hurting anyone. People are just afraid to hear and read the truth. How different people feel about things.

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[The Squirrel]

Why do you say that. Not allow to use freedom of speech and speak your mind. I guess we have a lot of liberals on this website. You guys need to watch more of Bill O' Reilly and Sean Hannity. Oh well, it won't change me. I'm not hurting anyone. People are just afraid to hear and read the truth. How different people feel about things.

:im::im::im::im:

:lmao:


Yeah, the movie failing because of Sam Jackson is really "the truth". :whatever:

[sdc10]

Get Mad! I really don't care! I have every right to my opinion. Just like you have your opinion. You can either agree with me or disagree with me. It makes no diifference to me. This is a public domain and I do believe in freedom of speech. I will stick by my opinion of Samuel Jackson. I guess you would call me a racist, if I told you I didn't vote for Obama. I think Obama will go down in history as the worst american presidents of the 21th century. I respect the Executive Office of the President of the United States, but not the current man that resides in the office. That is my opinion. You can share it or don't.



:im::im::im::im:

Well he will def have some competition from the dude that had the seat before him

[Chewy]

Why do you say that. Not allow to use freedom of speech and speak your mind. I guess we have a lot of liberals on this website. You guys need to watch more of Bill O' Reilly and Sean Hannity. Oh well, it won't change me. I'm not hurting anyone. People are just afraid to hear and read the truth. How different people feel about things.

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http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/4995/1236863398samjacksonfun.gif

[Kirk 1701]

He was only listed as a producer because Schumacher got his blessing. He never actually did any work on it. Schumacher just listed him as producer as a way of saying thank you.


Do you have any proof or data regarding your statement?

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[sdc10]

Why do you say that. Not allow to use freedom of speech and speak your mind. I guess we have a lot of liberals on this website. You guys need to watch more of Bill O' Reilly and Sean Hannity. Oh well, it won't change me. I'm not hurting anyone. People are just afraid to hear and read the truth. How different people feel about things.

:im::im::im::im:

Im sorry but i dont like to do activites that will actually result in me getting dumber

[Infinity9999x]

Do you have any proof or data regarding your statement?

:im::im::im::im:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Batman

While Returns was a substantial hit, many parents, critics, and whatnot (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralGuardians) objected to the grim, fetishistic, downbeat film (the marketing (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MisaimedMarketing) caused part of this problem, attracting too many families with children). Tim Burton was no longer interested in directing, so Warner Bros. decided not only to bring in a new director — Joel Schumacher (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JoelSchumacher) — but to make the subsequent films with less gruesome violence and an overall more upbeat, colorful approach (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LighterAndSofter). Burton was a producer in name only for Batman Forever and had no involvement whatsoever in Batman and Robin.

I've also read it in interviews people have posted in the Misc. Bat-Films in the Batman boards.

[Mal'Akai]

Why do you say that. Not allow to use freedom of speech and speak your mind. I guess we have a lot of liberals on this website. You guys need to watch more of Bill O' Reilly and Sean Hannity. Oh well, it won't change me. I'm not hurting anyone. People are just afraid to hear and read the truth. How different people feel about things.

:im::im::im::im:
Nothing to do with freedom of speech. But here's the rule book.
http://forums.superherohype.com/faq.php?faq=new_faq_item#faq_new_faq_item_trolling

[Kirk 1701]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Batman



I've also read it in interviews people have posted in the Misc. Bat-Films in the Batman boards.


Thank you for the information. Parents tend to mess up films for other people, in order to protect their children. Not sure if you would agree with the following statement. The first two Batman films from Tim Burton were the best films of the entire franchise.



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[Infinity9999x]

Thank you for the information. Parents tend to mess up films for other people, in order to protect their children. Not sure if you would agree with the following statement. The first two Batman films from Tim Burton were the best films of the entire franchise.



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Of that franchise, yes I would agree with that. As a kid I hated Returns because DeVito scared the crap out of me, but when I watched it again a few years ago I liked it. I still find bits of Returns strange, but It's a good bat film overall. I loved B89 ever since I was a kid though.

TDK is my current fav of all the bat-films.

And yes, the parents really did screw the franchise. It's ironic because many people find TDK to be darker than Returns now.

[Spider-Vader]

Get Mad! I really don't care! I have every right to my opinion. Just like you have your opinion. You can either agree with me or disagree with me. It makes no diifference to me. This is a public domain and I do believe in freedom of speech. I will stick by my opinion of Samuel Jackson. I guess you would call me a racist, if I told you I didn't vote for Obama. I think Obama will go down in history as the worst american presidents of the 21th century. I respect the Executive Office of the President of the United States, but not the current man that resides in the office. That is my opinion. You can share it or don't.



:im::im::im::im:

I definitely think you're a racist. First you complain because Fury isn't white, then you're hating on Obama.

I'm not big on Obama either (mainly because he's a Democrat & my views are mostly Republican, but I support abortion & stuff like that. Plus, it doesn't p*** me off that he's president either because all politicians are dirty people who just want our money, republicans & democrats alike.). But I love Jackson as Fury. Awesome casting & I'm sure he'll do great.

[kedrell]

And yes, the parents really did screw the franchise. It's ironic because many people find TDK to be darker than Returns now.

It was the sexual content in BF that got parents angry. TDK while very dark, didn't have much of that at all.

[Kirk 1701]

I definitely think you're a racist. First you complain because Fury isn't white, then you're hating on Obama.

I'm not big on Obama either (mainly because he's a Democrat & my views are mostly Republican, but I support abortion & stuff like that. Plus, it doesn't p*** me off that he's president either because all politicians are dirty people who just want our money, republicans & democrats alike.). But I love Jackson as Fury. Awesome casting & I'm sure he'll do great.


I don't know if you have been watching cable news, especially Fox News.The media is starting to turn against Obama. You need to watch Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, and Bill O' Reilly. They want Obama to succeed in fixing the economy, but I hope he fails at everything. He may still have his rock star status, but the American people are starting to see his anti-capitalism views. Obama is weak and is trying to turn the USA into a socialism government. I don't think he cares about the US Constitution. The constitution is a big obstacle for Obama. He feels that big government should own and run all businesses here in the USA. He wants to forget about free trade, a capitalism government, and turn the USA into a social democracy. He feels that we should have the same government as some of the European nations now have. If he doesn't fix the economy within 3.5 years, he'll be a one term lame duck president. I wish it was 2012, right now.

[Shivsguy616]

I don't know if you have been watching cable news, especially Fox News.The media is starting to turn against Obama. You need to watch Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, and Bill O' Reilly. They want Obama to succeed in fixing the economy, but I hope he fails at everything. He may still have his rock star status, but the American people are starting to see his anti-capitalism views. Obama is weak and is trying to turn the USA into a socialism government. I don't think he cares about the US Constitution. The constitution is a big obstacle for Obama. He feels that big government should own and run all businesses here in the USA. He wants to forget about free trade, a capitalism government, and turn the USA into a social democracy. He feels that we we should have the same government as some of the European nations now have. If he doesn't fix the economy within 3.5 years, he'll be a one term lame duck president. I wish it was 2012, right now.

How old are you?

[Kirk 1701]

How old are you?


Over 21.

[Shivsguy616]

Over 21.

In that case you have no excuse...

[Kirk 1701]

In that case you have no excuse...


No excuse???

[Shivsguy616]

No excuse???

....yeah.

[Kirk 1701]

....yeah.


What are you talking about? Please explain.

[arachnid-guy]

I'm just commenting on this to subscribe.

But yes...Jackson + 9 Marvel Films = Win.

[Kirk 1701]

I'm just commenting on this to subscribe.

But yes...Jackson + 9 Marvel Films = Win.


I disagree with your statistics, but that is my opinion.


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[arachnid-guy]

Disagree away.

[Mal'Akai]

Kirk, you really need to read this link. It describes you perfectly, and also explains why powerbomb1411 feels you may get banned.Nothing to do with freedom of speech. But here's the rule book.
http://forums.superherohype.com/faq.php?faq=new_faq_item#faq_new_faq_item_trolling

[Kirk 1701]

Kirk, you really need to read this link. It describes you perfectly, and also explains why powerbomb1411 feels you may get banned.


So you are telling me that I can not have an opinion, speak my mind, or disagree with people. People like Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O' Reilly, and Rush Limbaugh all speak their minds. They all have different opinions about the President and other matters. I don't see big government trying to shut down right wing commentators for speaking their minds or having an opinion. These people are masters at what they do, and they get paid millions of dollars for it. So why do I need to be any different?


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[Shivsguy616]

What are you talking about? Please explain.

You asked "No excuse?"

I said "Yeah."

Pretty self explanitory. If you were below 15 or so then your conduct and comments here might have some excuse.

[Mal'Akai]

So you are telling me that I can not have an opinion, speak my mind, or disagree with people. People like Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O' Reilly, and Rush Limbaugh all speak their minds. They all have different opinions about the President and other matters. I don't see big government trying to shut down right wing commentators for speaking their minds or having an opinion. These people are masters at what they do, and they get paid millions of dollars for it. So why do I need to be any different?


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When you are voicing your opinion stricktly for the purpose of ticking people off, then yes. It's called trolling.

[Kirk 1701]

When you are voicing your opinion stricktly for the purpose of ticking people off, then yes. It's called trolling.


You call it trolling. I call it censorship. Have you ever seen that movie 1984? I think you need to watch it.


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[Shivsguy616]

You call it trolling. I call it censorship. Have you ever seen that movie 1984? I think you need to watch it.


:im::im::im::im:


"voicing your opinion stricktly for the purpose of ticking people off"

You call that censorship? Please start reading what you write before you post it.

[Matt Mortem]

While I'm all for someone having an opinion, Kirk, you gotta find a new thread. Last I checked this was a Sam Jackson as Nick Fury thread, not a ***** about the executive office over difference of beliefs. Move along, move along.

ANYWAY. YAY Sam Jackson. I hope his IM2 part is mucho mucho bigger. I really want to feel a big SHIELD presence in this film. IMO that's how they're gonna make the avengers work. It's gotta be SHIELD pulling everyone together as a sort of task force and IM2 is a good place to start it as well as an opportunity to advance Tony's story.

[Aesop Rocks]

9 movies?! Come on Marvel, isn't that too many? I mean really!

[Mal'Akai]

9 movies?! Come on Marvel, isn't that too many? I mean really!
Well, you've got...
1. Iron Man 2
2. Captain America
3. Avengers
4. Thor
5. Hulk 2???
6. Avengers 2
7. Avengers 3
8. Thor 2??
9. Captain America 2??
All of these would have some involvement from S.H.I.E.L.D., and Nick Fury. He may not have a huge part in each film, but at least a cameo.

[Chewy]

^ Don't forget Iron Man 3 and a potential S.H.I.E.L.D. movie

For most characters a 9 picture deal would be crazy, but for characters like Fury&Widow who can pop up in literally every movie Marvel makes over the next couple of years it isn't that out there

[Kirk 1701]

9 movies?! Come on Marvel, isn't that too many? I mean really!


They really must need the cash. I don't see it happening.


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[Spider-Vader]

I see his 9 movies being:

1. Iron Man 2
2. Captain America
3. The Avengers
4. Black Panther
5. Iron Man 3
6. The Avengers 2
7. Captain America 2
8. The Avengers 3
9. Random Marvel Movie A

I don't expect to see him in any Thor movies, because I think they'll stick to Asgard. Though, a sequel might have both Earth & Asgard in it.

[Aesop Rocks]

I doubt they'll make a Hulk 2.

[Kirk 1701]

Well, you've got...
1. Iron Man 2
2. Captain America
3. Avengers
4. Thor
5. Hulk 2???
6. Avengers 2
7. Avengers 3
8. Thor 2??
9. Captain America 2??
All of these would have some involvement from S.H.I.E.L.D., and Nick Fury. He may not have a huge part in each film, but at least a cameo.


I don't see any of these films being made or having sequels. It really depends on what shape the economy is in two to three years from now, and weather or not the studios can afford to make these films. We never got a sequel to Daredevil, Elektra, Howard the Duck, or a third film for Fantastic Four. Your guess is good as mine, weather these films will get made.




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[Ironfan72]

RDJ has already confirmed a Iron Man 3 will be made, so Jackson might appear in that as well.

[Mal'Akai]

I don't see any of these films being made or having sequels. It really depends on what shape the economy is in two to three years from now, and weather or not the studios can afford to make these films. We never got a sequel to Daredevil, Elektra, Howard the Duck, or a third film for Fantastic Four. Your guess is good as mine, weather these films will get made.




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Um, the first four on that list have already been confirmed. As for the others, just speculating what the nine films could be that would involve S.H.I.E.L.D. in some way. As for the films you mentioned, they were all box office flops, especially when compared to budgets.

[Mal'Akai]

I don't expect to see him in any Thor movies, because I think they'll stick to Asgard. Though, a sequel might have both Earth & Asgard in it.
Well, if Thor is going to be in the Avengers, Fury will most likely have to rcruit him some how.

[ironman29758]

Well, if Thor is going to be in the Avengers, Fury will most likely have to rcruit him some how.
mabye he will recuit him during Avengers. I hope NF has his own movie. I like this move Marvel made because as I said this is a new world so they're is going to be more races instead of just caucasian so this move makes sense

[Matt Mortem]

They really must need the cash. I don't see it happening.


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Wow, you are an epic Troll. It would be truly insane not to have Avenger sequels so we know they're gonna happen. Marvel probably did the deal with Jackson so that they could have him confirmed for any picture in the near future. Alot of them could be cameos. They're trying to build a marvel universe on film so Nick Fury is more than likely going to be the glue to tie all these films together. If you're so damned against these films happening, find a new board.

[anthonytheghost]

I see his 9 movies being:

1. Iron Man 2
2. Captain America
3. The Avengers
4. Black Panther
5. Iron Man 3
6. The Avengers 2
7. Captain America 2
8. The Avengers 3
9. Random Marvel Movie A

I don't expect to see him in any Thor movies, because I think they'll stick to Asgard. Though, a sequel might have both Earth & Asgard in it.


the thor movie i think will at least have a little to do with both asgard and midgard, brannaugh is on record as being really into the interconnectivity of the movie universes, so youd think hed want to play with fury a little in his movie. and i dont think a s.h.i.e.l.d. movie is out of the question either, tons of great characters and stories built in, why not do it if its popular enough?

[Matt Mortem]

the thor movie i think will at least have a little to do with both asgard and midgard, brannaugh is on record as being really into the interconnectivity of the movie universes, so youd think hed want to play with fury a little in his movie. and i dont think a s.h.i.e.l.d. movie is out of the question either, tons of great characters and stories built in, why not do it if its popular enough?
I think if they did that right it'd be a fantastic film. Show the origin of the howling commando's (which better be part of SHIELD). Could be very badass

[Figs]

I don't see any of these films being made or having sequels. It really depends on what shape the economy is in two to three years from now, and weather or not the studios can afford to make these films. We never got a sequel to Daredevil, Elektra, Howard the Duck, or a third film for Fantastic Four. Your guess is good as mine, weather these films will get made.

That's because the quality of those films ranged from decent to crap.

[anthonytheghost]

I think if they did that right it'd be a fantastic film. Show the origin of the howling commando's (which better be part of SHIELD). Could be very badass
yeah, and do a slightly updated version of the jacob fury/scorpio/zodiac key steranko stories. thing practically writes itself.

[FaT_tONle]

Thor shouldn't have too much Earth at all... maybe just 10% tops... preferably just have it mentioned at the end. Fury can have a cameo. I think the only movies where Fury needs to be a big time player are the SHIELD movie (1st one at least) and the Avengers movie. He should be a minor supporting character in IM and Cap movies. Other than that I think it will pretty much be cameos.

[Matt Mortem]

Thor shouldn't have too much Earth at all... maybe just 10% tops... preferably just have it mentioned at the end. Fury can have a cameo. I think the only movies where Fury needs to be a big time player are the SHIELD movie (1st one at least) and the Avengers movie. He should be a minor supporting character in IM and Cap movies. Other than that I think it will pretty much be cameos.
yeah I agree. If he has too big a presence in movies like Thor, then your wasting time that could be spent on the story. Unless he's a very very important part of the story, he shouldn't have huge roles in the films

[Kirk 1701]

Wow, you are an epic Troll. It would be truly insane not to have Avenger sequels so we know they're gonna happen. Marvel probably did the deal with Jackson so that they could have him confirmed for any picture in the near future. Alot of them could be cameos. They're trying to build a marvel universe on film so Nick Fury is more than likely going to be the glue to tie all these films together. If you're so damned against these films happening, find a new board.


I guess Marvel is gone to build a universe around Nick Fury and Sam Jackson. I do hope all of the Marvel films fail except for Spider-Man and future X-Men movies.

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[Matt Mortem]

I guess Marvel is gone to build a universe around Nick Fury and Sam Jackson. I do hope all of the Marvel films fail except for Spider-Man and future X-Men movies.

:im::im::im::im:
Wow, your completely wrong......all the time. They're aren't building it around Nick Fury. If nothing else, Fury being in all the films (if in fact that is what happens) will serve nothing more than letting average film goers that the new Marvel films are set in the same universe

[powerbomb1411]

You call it trolling. I call it censorship. Have you ever seen that movie 1984? I think you need to watch it.


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No, what you are doing is going extremely off topic quite often. You're spelling and grammar is horrible. You're backing up your ludicrous views with your poorly backed opinions stated as facts. And every time we reply to you to correct you, you just ignore us and keep moving along on your bridge.

THAT is why we are calling you a troll.

It is perfectly OK to have a difference in opinion from the majority.

I feel the Spider-Man films are pure crap. Why? Because I love the character and feel they portrayed him out of character by taking away his intelligence and smart mouth remarks.

I feel the new Batman movies are highly over rated and Christian Bale is ranked above only Adam West for the best Batman. He is fine as Bruce Wayne, but a horrible Batman. Why? Because of his voice. It's a major part to Batman and he can't do it to save his life. Why do I feel the movies are over rated? They just don't do it for me. Nolan doesn't know how to film a fight scene and I'd like to see the world greatest detective showing some actual detective skills.

But this topic is about Sam Jackson. And you know what? I have been strongly against taking so many things from the Ultimate U and bringing them into the Movie-U. And I have neve been a fan of Sam Jackson. I couldn't stand him after he took part in Snake on a Plane.

But the second I saw him on screen as Nick Fury making cinema history. Real history. Not a stunt, not a cheap ploy to get extra money. But actual trying to bring typical scenes from the Marvel U and bringing them to the big screen. Once I saw him talking to Tony. I became an instant fan on his.

Now, I can't even watch most Marvel films that were not made by Marvel and enjoy them. Marvel is making history while other studios can't hope to compete.

Sony is going to keep ruining Spider-Man. Fox is going to keep ruining X-Men. And Marvel is going to keep amazing us.

[ayakazoob]

I don't know if you have been watching cable news, especially Fox News.The media is starting to turn against Obama. You need to watch Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, and Bill O' Reilly. They want Obama to succeed in fixing the economy, but I hope he fails at everything. He may still have his rock star status, but the American people are starting to see his anti-capitalism views. Obama is weak and is trying to turn the USA into a socialism government. I don't think he cares about the US Constitution. The constitution is a big obstacle for Obama. He feels that big government should own and run all businesses here in the USA. He wants to forget about free trade, a capitalism government, and turn the USA into a social democracy. He feels that we should have the same government as some of the European nations now have. If he doesn't fix the economy within 3.5 years, he'll be a one term lame duck president. I wish it was 2012, right now.


I''m so glad i don't live in America. I don't think I could handle it knowing people with your intelligence are allowed to vote. Wishing your president to fail at solving arguably the biggest domestic crisis since the Great Depression just because you think he's a commie is just evidence of the kind of selfishness and retarded thinking that only someone who religiously watches FOX news could exude. Watch some Jon Stewart. He's the closest thing there is to a real news source in America. For the sake of all that is sane I truly hope you are just trying to get a rise out of us, but I still think you're dead serious about everything you say (which is sad):waa:

[Kirk 1701]

No, what you are doing is going extremely off topic quite often. You're spelling and grammar is horrible. You're backing up your ludicrous views with your poorly backed opinions stated as facts. And every time we reply to you to correct you, you just ignore us and keep moving along on your bridge.

THAT is why we are calling you a troll.

It is perfectly OK to have a difference in opinion from the majority.

I feel the Spider-Man films are pure crap. Why? Because I love the character and feel they portrayed him out of character by taking away his intelligence and smart mouth remarks.

I feel the new Batman movies are highly over rated and Christian Bale is ranked above only Adam West for the best Batman. He is fine as Bruce Wayne, but a horrible Batman. Why? Because of his voice. It's a major part to Batman and he can't do it to save his life. Why do I feel the movies are over rated? They just don't do it for me. Nolan doesn't know how to film a fight scene and I'd like to see the world greatest detective showing some actual detective skills.

But this topic is about Sam Jackson. And you know what? I have been strongly against taking so many things from the Ultimate U and bringing them into the Movie-U. And I have never been a fan of Sam Jackson. I couldn't stand him after he took part in Snake on a Plane.

But the second I saw him on screen as Nick Fury making cinema history. Real history. Not a stunt, not a cheap ploy to get extra money. But actual trying to bring typical scenes from the Marvel U and bringing them to the big screen. Once I saw him talking to Tony. I became an instant fan on his.

Now, I can't even watch most Marvel films that were not made by Marvel and enjoy them. Marvel is making history while other studios can't hope to compete.

Sony is going to keep ruining Spider-Man. Fox is going to keep ruining X-Men. And Marvel is going to keep amazing us.


I agree with most of your post, not all of them. How is Sam Jackson making cinema history? If you look at his earlier films, he is famous for playing crack heads and gangsters. He played these roles in New Jack City and Pulp Fiction. I enjoy his acting outside of super-hero movies. Also, he is not a great actor like John Wayne, William Holden, Spencer Tracy, Humphrey Bogart, Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, and Johnny Depp. I will see all the super-hero movies that come out, but if I had my way I would delete all the scenes with Sam Jackson in the films and DVDs.



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[Kirk 1701]

I''m so glad i don't live in America. I don't think I could handle it knowing people with your intelligence are allowed to vote. Wishing your president to fail at solving arguably the biggest domestic crisis since the Great Depression just because you think he's a commie is just evidence of the kind of selfishness and retarded thinking that only someone who religiously watches FOX news could exude. Watch some Jon Stewart. He's the closest thing there is to a real news source in America. For the sake of all that is sane I truly hope you are just trying to get a rise out of us, but I still think you're dead serious about everything you say (which is sad):waa:

Why would I want Obama to succeed? I didn't vote for him. I wish it was 2012 right now and that he was out of office. I can't believe you really think that everyone in America is in love with Obama. That is not completely true. You are right about one thing, you don't live here in America. The world needs to stay out of our affairs. Why would I watch John Steward? He is an idiot. A lot of young people would watch a comedian then a real political commenter, like Bill O' Reilly. Bill O' Reilly has had the number one cable news show for the last one- hundred months. Can John Steward match the performance of Bill O' Reilly? I think not.




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[Shivsguy616]

Why would I want Obama to succeed?

Because intelligent and well meaning people would like to see the world progress and would like to see people's lives made better. No logical person would wish for the failure of a free state based on a grudge.

[ironman29758]

I agree with most of your post, not all of them. How is Sam Jackson making cinema history? If you look at his earlier films, he is famous for playing crack heads and gangsters. He played these roles in New Jack City and Pulp Fiction. I enjoy his acting outside of super-hero movies. Also, he is not a great actor like John Wayne, William Holden, Spencer Tracy, Humphrey Bogart, Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, and Johnny Depp. I will see all the super-hero movies that come out, but if I had my way I would delete all the scenes with Sam Jackson in the films and DVDs.



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WELL I'M GLAD YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR WAY. But Obama may not do some things right but he is trying to make the world a better place for everyone. I have oppinions on everything like how I think the recent Batman movies are great even though the voice sometimes gets on my nerves but He is growing as a detective because this is his early years and this is the realistic world, Spider-man tried to make the spider-man universe more believable but I'm mad they don't show his intellegence more and his sense of humor(no offense powerbomb1411) but sometimes they are stuborn, even rude people like I don't known Kirk 1701 that are to much. they are threats that don't like Sam Jackson as Nick Fury why don't you go there or even make your own thread. I'm really tired of wishing failure of movies on just one man. Even David hasselhoff(the TVmovie Nick Fury) is okay with Sam Jackson being Nick Fury, why can't you.
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/03/24...new-super-spy/

[Daredevil_2003]

Seriously, guise, stop feeding the trolls.

[Kirk 1701]

WELL I'M GLAD YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR WAY. But Obama may not do some things right but he is trying to make the world a better place for everyone. I have opinions on everything like how I think the recent Batman movies are great even though the voice sometimes gets on my nerves but He is growing as a detective because this is his early years and this is the realistic world, Spider-man tried to make the spider-man universe more believable but I'm mad they don't show his intelligence more and his sense of humor(no offense powerbomb1411) but sometimes they are stubborn, even rude people like I don't known Kirk 1701 that are to much. they are threats that don't like Sam Jackson as Nick Fury why don't you go there or even make your own thread. I'm really tired of wishing failure of movies on just one man. Even David hasselhoff(the TVmovie Nick Fury) is okay with Sam Jackson being Nick Fury, why can't you.
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/03/24...new-super-spy/



You said David Hasselhoff is OK with Sam Jackson being Nick Fury. If Jack Kirby was still alive, do you think he would be OK with Sam Jackson playing Nick Fury? How does Stan Lee feel about Sam Jackson playing Nick Fury?





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[Kirk 1701]

WELL I'M GLAD YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR WAY. But Obama may not do some things right but he is trying to make the world a better place for everyone. I have opinions on everything like how I think the recent Batman movies are great even though the voice sometimes gets on my nerves but He is growing as a detective because this is his early years and this is the realistic world, Spider-man tried to make the spider-man universe more believable but I'm mad they don't show his intelligence more and his sense of humor(no offense powerbomb1411) but sometimes they are stubborn, even rude people like I don't known Kirk 1701 that are to much. they are threats that don't like Sam Jackson as Nick Fury why don't you go there or even make your own thread. I'm really tired of wishing failure of movies on just one man. Even David hasselhoff(the TVmovie Nick Fury) is okay with Sam Jackson being Nick Fury, why can't you.
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/03/24...new-super-spy/



Obama is a fool and he will loose everything!!!



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[Kirk 1701]

Because intelligent and well meaning people would like to see the world progress and would like to see people's lives made better. No logical person would wish for the failure of a free state based on a grudge.


Well, when it comes to the world. I would like to quote President Theodore Roosevelt. "Speak softly and carry a big stick."



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[WillardNation]

and what does politics and whether or not Obama succeeds have to do with Sam Jackson playing Nick Fury again?