Captain America's Costume

[Paradox1]

For modern day cap I like something like this but this has a little too much going on and would need to be simplified a little more.http://i43.tinypic.com/dvn97d.jpg

[Timstuff]

http://www.sethskim.com/Captain%20America%20is%20Back2.jpg :barf:

Alex Ross redesigns other popular heroes!

The Flash!

http://i41.tinypic.com/5nozkj.jpg

Iron Man!

http://i40.tinypic.com/2lsz1qc.jpg

Superman!

http://i44.tinypic.com/icqvxh.jpg

[Captain America]

For modern day cap I like something like this but this has a little too much going on and would need to be simplified a little more.http://i43.tinypic.com/dvn97d.jpg


I'd like to see that :cap::up: Maybe a few changes to the head, but other then that, the suit is awesome - I Love how he has the S.H.I.E.L.D. symbol on his shoulders

[BlackLantern]

I do not like the SHIELD symbol there.....Cap is not beholden to SHIELD

[Castro]

Good work Castro :up:


I figured most wouldn't like it b/c most fan boys like to stick to the original and classic uniforms, but thanks dude.

I'd really like to see a better artist take a shot at a modern CAP that really looks like he could walk around in Iraq and Afghanistan helping out our troops. I think that's the only way he will fit in next to IRON MAN and THOR without looking cheesy in tights.

[Castro]

For modern day cap I like something like this but this has a little too much going on and would need to be simplified a little more.




I like the look. I'm just not a fan of his ears sticking out, or the wings either, and id rather see cloth pants with armor attached around his legs as well.

[Captain America]

I do not like the SHIELD symbol there.....Cap is not beholden to SHIELD

in The Avengers movie, mostly likely S.H.I.E.L.D. will thaw him out of the ice, which means most likely S.H.I.E.L.D. will also issue him a new uniform - If that's the case, I'd love to see the S.H.I.E.L.D. symbol on him.

[BlackLantern]

I don't give a **** if its the case, SHIELD and especially Fury should know better than that

[Captain America]

I don't give a **** if its the case, SHIELD and especially Fury should know better than that

Know better then what? Then to give him a S.H.I.E.L.D. symbol? They probably won't reveal to the public that Captain America is alive, which means he could possibly become a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent. I've always loved the idea of Captain America being one of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s mightiest agents. If they choose to take that path in the film, I would love to see some S.H.I.E.L.D. symbols on Cap's suit - If they choose something else, then I suppose they won't use it. It's a personal preference of mine. Sense Cap will go through several different suits in the film, It will be interesting to see him advance to a modern age with a new theme, in this case, an agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.

It's not a matter of S.H.I.E.L.D. "knowing better than that". It's simply a design decision.

[Castro]

Was gonna add armor to his legs and change the shoulder pad, but got too lazy and i'm not that good with photoshop.....you get the idea.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/Hailkingceezer/dvn97d4.jpg

[BlackLantern]

Cap doesn't work for anyone....he works with SHIELD at his discretion...the suit should be clean of any extraneous brands or designs....big star...red and white stripes

his current costume in the books is what I'd like to see....maybe something a little more armor looking but that general look

[Captain America]

Cap doesn't work for anyone....he works with SHIELD at his discretion...the suit should be clean of any extraneous brands or designs....big star...red and white stripes

his current costume in the books is what I'd like to see....maybe something a little more armor looking but that general look

I definitely want to see an armor look to his modern day suit :up: And I agree, Cap doesn't work for anyone - But In Avengers I think that it'd be cool if S.H.I.E.L.D. issued him a uniform for his time in service to S.H.I.E.L.D.

Was gonna add armor to his legs and change the shoulder pad, but got too lazy and i'm not that good with photoshop.....you get the idea.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/Hailkingceezer/dvn97d4.jpg
For his WWII uniform, I'd like to see something like this, something with allot less armor, so in modern day, when he gets his new uniform, it'll be Awesome to see him get geared up :awesome:

[Spider-Vader]

What's wrong with Cap Bucky's costume? I think it looks cool, though I don't want to see Steve wear it.

[BlackLantern]

exactly...it worked for Barnes....especially when he shoots people in the legs

[Captain America]

What's wrong with Cap Bucky's costume? I think it looks cool, though I don't want to see Steve wear it.

I don't mind it - I just want Bucky to be more like he's done in the Ultimates, Just a young troop who admires Cap

[Webhead2006]

i definately dont want to see super body armored cap. that just doesnt fit for the character. since he needs to be able to move and use his reflexs and all that. I would go with a more streamline outfit that has some armor plating or is a special kelvar like material that flexs over full on armor.

[Spidey_62]

Alex Ross redesigns other popular heroes!


Wait, don't forget his Spider-Man!

http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc329/One_Thursday/spiderman4.jpg

[Captain America]

i definately dont want to see super body armored cap. that just doesnt fit for the character. since he needs to be able to move and use his reflexs and all that. I would go with a more streamline outfit that has some armor plating or is a special kelvar like material that flexs over full on armor.

Definitely not - Cap doesn't need armor to kick ass, And we don't want him to be at all like Iron Man, or vice versa. But yes. I Would like to see some armor plates here and there on the suit, but not a suit of armor

[Maximum Carnage]

Am I the only one who hates Alex Ross and his costumes? :/

[Captain America]

Am I the only one who hates Alex Ross and his costumes? :/

I'm not a fan :down It just seems that he tried to modernize the use of spandex - and in some cases, attempting to simplify the costumes.

[Maximum Carnage]

I'm honestly afraid how this movie is gonna work. The costume is gonna be a BIG deal!!! Here's to hoping they find a happy medium between modern/classic. x_X;

[Captain America]

I'm honestly afraid how this movie is gonna work. The costume is gonna be a BIG deal!!! Here's to hoping they find a happy medium between modern/classic. x_X;

I Have faith :cap::up: Marvels learned from past films of the boundaries between Cool and Stupid - Just right and Crossing the line. Cap is a tricky one, But, I have faith :awesome:

[Whiskey Tango]

Am I the only one who hates Alex Ross and his costumes? :/

I wouldn't say I hate him but I think he's terribly overrated.

[marcvader]

I love Alex Ross. Anyways, I want Cap in a streamlined suit in his colors. His acrobatic fighting style demands it. Don't want him looking like Batman and his boring fighting style. and no to any SHIELD symbol on Cap.

[roach]

I think we are going to see Cap in a suit much like BW's in Im2....no need to weight him down with any armor

[Castro]

i dont think that picture above is supposed to be metalic armor, rather a kevlar, more flexibale suit ala batmans

[marcvader]

It can be explained as state of the art new tech. It doesn't have to have real world sensibilities like so many on here want.

[Captain America]

i dont think that picture above is supposed to be metalic armor, rather a kevlar, more flexibale suit ala batmans

That sounds right for Cap :up:

It can be explained as state of the art new tech. It doesn't have to have real world sensibilities like so many on here want.

Just look at Iron Man :im::up:

[Webhead2006]

yea i am not to worried right now with caps costumes for this film and for avengers. Cause just looking at what we have seen for marvel studios films they are trying to be just right, with some modifications here and there and so far it looks good. So no reason to think cap would screw that all up.

[Captain America]

yea i am not to worried right now with caps costumes for this film and for avengers. Cause just looking at what we have seen for marvel studios films they are trying to be just right, with some modifications here and there and so far it looks good. So no reason to think cap would screw that all up.

None at all from me :cap::up:

[Denny67]

Alex Ross redesigns other popular heroes!

The Flash!

http://i41.tinypic.com/5nozkj.jpg

Iron Man!

http://i40.tinypic.com/2lsz1qc.jpg

Superman!

http://i44.tinypic.com/icqvxh.jpg

Very familiar with Alex Ross’ work. He is uber talented and a legend in the industry. Does not mean that "everything" he does is perfect. That design is friggin horrible.

[roach]

None at all from me :cap::up:

of the various things we have heard about the film the costume it the one thing that has me worried. I strongly dislike the Ultimate Cap designs and I fear that is what we are going to get...so I will remain negatively optimistic until I see our first look at Cap

[misjuevos]

i still have the alex ross poster from wizard with the avengers and x-men on one side with the bad guys on the other. his art is great, looks real. cant wait to see the costume for cap.

[marcvader]

of the various things we have heard about the film the costume it the one thing that has me worried. I strongly dislike the Ultimate Cap designs and I fear that is what we are going to get...so I will remain negatively optimistic until I see our first look at Cap negatively optimistic?

[roach]

negatively optimistic?

I am not expecting to be wowed by the suit but a part of me is hoping I am

[Captain America]

I am not expecting to be wowed by the suit but a part of me is hoping I am

I Understand what you mean - But I'm hoping that it won't look completely like Ultimate Cap. :csad:

[roach]

I Understand what you mean - But I'm hoping that it won't look completely like Ultimate Cap. :csad:

I fear that it will and that the USO suit will look like the kirby suit and be subject to some form of ridicule

[marcvader]

I think Kirbys suit will be admired when everything is said and done.

[Webhead2006]

well heres hoping all his costumes we will see in the film will turn out to look great.

[Paradox1]

We all love Jack Kirby but the pirate boots have to go.There has to be some kind of balance between whats practical for a super soldier fighting a war in ww2 and the comics. He doesn't need to go Batman and completely dismissing the primary colors from the comics for practicality. However all those colors need to be toned down. Like the blue which is his primary color could be navy blue.

[rcazzy]

I still don't see why some of you are against Ultimate Cap's costume. It's just a modern updated take on Cap, replacing the scales with armour like kevlar. A good change I believe as it lends more to Cap's capabilities and movements.
But my guess is Marvel will give him the kevlar/Stark created mesh suit akin to Ultimate's but colours more in line with the actual US flag, a good cowl with wings and some gear to carry on his person. The only problem I'd have would be with a metal/full body gear armour suit and no wings which are completely doable I think.

Also, no rubber ears :P

[roach]

I still don't see why some of you are against Ultimate Cap's costume. It's just a modern updated take on Cap, replacing the scales with armour like kevlar. A good change I believe as it lends more to Cap's capabilities and movements.
But my guess is Marvel will give him the kevlar/Stark created mesh suit akin to Ultimate's but colours more in line with the actual US flag, a good cowl with wings and some gear to carry on his person. The only problem I'd have would be with a metal/full body gear armour suit and no wings which are completely doable I think.

Also, no rubber ears :P

We are refering to the WW2 costume. I think if they were going to do a costume for his modern times then it should be an updated 616 costume. I despise all things Ultimate

[Webhead2006]

yea i still say for avengers/modern time caps suit will probably be more 616 looking with how others have been so far for the marvel studios films. As for the ww2 stuff since we know for uso they are going classic kirby look. That leaves us with what is going to be battle field outfit steve wears and probably "dies" in. I still say if it ends up looking like ultimates ww2 suit it still envokes captain america look. Then they can do since its probably just regular cloths and all that it has broken down for the past 60+ yrs he was frozen so it not salvageable to wear any more. So shield/stark designs a new modern suit based off the general idea of cap's battlefield/uso suits.

[Rage]

I am not expecting to be wowed by the suit but a part of me is hoping I am

Totally agree. BUT... with 3 suits.. we should all hopefully get something we like.

[marcvader]

That's what I'm thinking. As long as his final look is not too much of a departure of his 616. That's the look that wil be seen in the promos, posters, and the DVD covers

[Shivsguy616]

Hopefully the colours will be accurate to the flag of the United States of America. A more primary palette could evoke only negative conotations.

[RogueDK]

I Understand what you mean - But I'm hoping that it won't look completely like Ultimate Cap. :csad:
Yeah, that's my fear for this...

[BizarroAids]

When the filmmakers say things like "Jack Kirby influenced" and "later muted colors".. I kinda feel at ease about it.

Yes, I'd love to see him in his WWII outfit, but also not something so bright that he looks too ridiculous.

In a way, I kinda wouldn't mind seeing a cross between Buckys outfit and Steves "Secret Avengers costume. On screen, that could be pulled off rather nicely. But that's just my opinion.

[roach]

When the filmmakers say things like "Jack Kirby influenced" and "later muted colors".. I kinda feel at ease about it.

Yes, I'd love to see him in his WWII outfit, but also not something so bright that he looks too ridiculous.

In a way, I kinda wouldn't mind seeing a cross between Buckys outfit and Steves "Secret Avengers costume. On screen, that could be pulled off rather nicely. But that's just my opinion.

they said the USO suit would be Kirby influenced but he takes the design and modifies it...that modified design is what bothers me.

Bucky's Cap costume is very silly looking....that shiny-ness wouldnt work for the camera and Steve's Secret Avenger costume doesnt say Cap to me.

[Webhead2006]

will be great once we see some actual designs, or some actual photos later this summer/fall

[Thos. Rex, ESQ]

The original look would be so corny, guys. Guaranteed audience laughter.

[roach]

not if a prefessional Hollywood costumer gets a hold of it...much like the Spider suit

[Thos. Rex, ESQ]

I completely disagree. It would almost have to be jiggered into the Ultimate version to make it passable. And by "almost have to" ... I mean it would have to.

[roach]

what makes the Cap costume silly???

[Shivsguy616]

Pirate boots. Bright primary colours in a warzone. Wings on his head.

[roach]

Pirate boots. Bright primary colours in a warzone. Wings on his head.

Pirate boots were the primary accessory on heroes and adventurers in the 40's...the govenrment turned him into a superhero..thats why e has the pirate boots and bright primary colors. The suit takes symbolism from all things american. The colors from the flag, the stars and the wings of an eagle.

[Shivsguy616]

Pirate boots were the primary accessory on heroes and adventurers in the 40's...the govenrment turned him into a superhero..thats why e has the pirate boots and bright primary colors. The suit takes symbolism from all things american. The colors from the flag, the stars and the wings of an eagle.

The flag of the US doesn't have primary red and blue. And it doesn't metter why he has those elements, they would still look silly.

[King Kong]

I think he would look cool with blue camo and combat boots, then the ultimate look for the rest

[roach]

http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/uniforms2/us-section.jpg

cammies werent in the US military during WW2

[marcvader]

I agree with Roach. If you have good production values and material, you can go a long ways. Yes, there may be some minor modifications but that's about it. People will invest into the story and accept what they are looking at if it is done well. I think most people that say it will look ridiculous automatically visualize spandex and cheap materials being used and nothing is further than what is to be expected by Marvel when it comes to one of its most important properties.

[Shivsguy616]

http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/uniforms2/us-section.jpg

cammies werent in the US military during WW2

They were.

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/restore/usa/museum/usa/usmc-wwii-camo.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6509/camoki3.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AP-rb774dmQ/Ss3kBh8VYrI/AAAAAAAAJQo/GYZ-ft_CH2g/S660/Palmtree+smock+Waffen-SS+Tarnhemd,+M44+camo+uniforms+SS.jpg

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I like that idea of Cap using the 616 suit for USO shows and press photos/film, and then has the Ultimate WWII suit for actual battle.

[Shivsguy616]

I like that idea of Cap using the 616 suit for USO shows and press photos/film, and then has the Ultimate WWII suit for actual battle.

Ditto. I thought that was a great idea and a great way for everyone to have their cake and eat it too.

[King Kong]

they were.

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/restore/usa/museum/usa/usmc-wwii-camo.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6509/camoki3.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ap-rb774dmq/ss3kbh8vyri/aaaaaaaajqo/gyz-ft_ch2g/s660/palmtree+smock+waffen-ss+tarnhemd,+m44+camo+uniforms+ss.jpg
owned

[misjuevos]

superman's suit never gets a second thought you just go with it. So I think caps suit will be fine no need to change it drastically for fear of it being silly.

[Spider-Vader]

I like that idea of Cap using the 616 suit for USO shows and press photos/film, and then has the Ultimate WWII suit for actual battle.

Sounds good & then in Avengers, Wasp or Tony says to Steve "If you want to be on a team of super heroes, you gotta look like one" & then they bring back the 616 costume.

superman's suit never gets a second thought you just go with it. So I think caps suit will be fine no need to change it drastically for fear of it being silly.
Superman is on the top 3 list of most popular super heroes (It's order is ever changing between Batman, Spidey & Supes.), Cap is popular but not Superman popular.

[Webhead2006]

yea there is nothing wrong for classic look to be done on screen and with the right guys on board they can make it look good, or just do small modifications to things and it all works out. As for the suit being red/white/blue well we know why it was and all that. So that shouldnt be changed on film.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

The wings are the only thing I'm concerned about. Really curious to see how they handle them.

[misjuevos]

what im sayin is if your gonna go for cap do it full on like they did when superman was first introduced, which for its time was not as use to capes and cowls as we are today. they didnt change superman back in the day just cause his suit might be silly they went for it. sure you can mess with the design a little maybe the color tone will be less bright but you don't need a drastic redesign.

[CrimboStrange]

I really want the Ultimate costume. But i really liked the Idea earlier of the 616 costume and then convert to the ultimate one. Whatever costume they choose though, i'm sure they won't add the wings.

[roach]

wings have to be there

[RogueDK]

The wings are the only thing I'm concerned about. Really curious to see how they handle them.
Before Johnston opened his piehole on the direction of how they were going to tackle Cap's costume, the wings were a big concern to me...and they still are. Captain America's got to have the wings on his head; it's signature and it can be done without looking stupid.

What's really got me biting my nails now is him saying the "straps in place of stripes on cloth" thing that got me very doubtful of how his attire will end up looking.

God, I just really, really hate that Ultimate look. :doh:

[roach]

Before Johnston opened his piehole on the direction of how they were going to tackle Cap's costume, the wings were a big concern to me...and they still are. Captain America's got to have the wings on his head; it's signature and it can be done without looking stupid.

What's really got me biting my nails now is him saying the "straps in place of stripes on cloth" thing that got me very doubtful of how his attire will end up looking.

God, I just really, really hate that Ultimate look. :doh:

you know the sad thing is I had no worries about how the Thor costumes would look....Johnston's comments on the costume do have me worried

I see the Kirby costume being treated in the same manner peter's wrestling costume was treated in Spiderman

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Straps? Straps for what? Is this going to be the movie equivalent of useless pouches in comics?

[roach]

they need to release something because I am not excited about this film and I am a Cap fan. The casting isnt really impressing me. Im glad Zola is going to be in the film but nothing about the movie is leading me to believe we will see him in his classic form

[OB12]

I think we just need to be patient. They are still over a month away from filming, so it is way too early to really get anything. I mean we didn't see the Thor costume until fliming was nearly wrapped.

As far as the cast goes, I think it is pretty solid thus far. Evans, Weaving, Stan, Atwell, and possibly Tommy Lee Jones. Those are some good names, though I would think that we should start hearing more names of actors playing the Invaders and Howard Stark.

[roach]

But the thing is nothing the film makers on Thor said made me worry about it

[OB12]

Personally, I'm not that worried. Johnston is a middling director but he seems to be in his element doing period pieces. He was involved in Indy and the Rocketeer and October Sky are two of his best films. I think too much is being made of the USO angle. It was something that he threw out there, and people are latching onto it but I bet it doesn't occupy more than 10 minutes of the movie and I would be very surprised if Cap is literally singing and dancing.

[RogueDK]

But the thing is nothing the film makers on Thor said made me worry about it
What I appreciate about Branaugh is that he's really trying not to rock the boat with fans on Thor's aesthetic while staying in his element...which a character like Thor is for him. From the first pic which was released, I have to give him kudos for that. I mean the man did his research and read the comics to prepare. Friggin' Kenneth B reading comic books? Thor just seems to ooze awesomeness before we've seen a teaser trailer. :word:

I can't say the same for Johnston with Cap because of his early comments on the costume, the supposed casting fiasco of finding a competent unknown only to end up with the "safe pick" of Evans and Johnston's mediocre filmology.

I have to remind myself from time to time that Marvel will keep him in check and not make Cap a total waste of time.

[Shivsguy616]

wings have to be there

Wings weren't in the US military during WW2. :awesome:

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Wings aren't realistic. :awesome:

[King Kong]

Wings weren't in the US military during WW2. :awesome:
yes they were
http://www.uswings.com/images/ww2wingsGA.jpg

[marcvader]

But the thing is nothing the film makers on Thor said made me worry about it To be honest Branagh never said much of anything which is the way to go about things I think.

[roach]

Wings weren't in the US military during WW2. :awesome:

neither was a super soldier brandishing a shield

[roach]

Wings aren't realistic. :awesome:

neither was a super soldier brandishing a shield

[King Kong]

neither was a super soldier brandishing a shield
are you proposing that captain america not be a super soldier and not have a shield?:nono:

[Shivsguy616]

neither was a super soldier brandishing a shield

:doh:

Over the head much?

[Shivsguy616]

yes they were
http://www.uswings.com/images/ww2wingsGA.jpg

Wings on heads... :hehe:

[roach]

are you proposing that captain america not be a super soldier and not have a shield?:nono:

no just commenting on how stupid it is to peg one thing as unrealistic in a superhero movie

[roach]

:doh:

Over the head much?

did i miss something

[King Kong]

yeah roach youre just coming off as stupid right now

[roach]

how?

[King Kong]

just stop

[roach]

explain to me how I am being stupid. Arent we having a discussion on Captain America's costume? Am I trolling here???
I was trying to be funny but since your panties are in a twist over it explain why you are taking this so seriously

[King Kong]

I havent got the time and you havent got the brain power to understand this.

[roach]

I havent got the time and you havent got the brain power to understand this.

owww you got me Im sooo hurt owwww:whatever:

If you arent here to discuss whats the point:doh:

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I'd just like to point out my post was a joke.

[roach]

I'd like to point out that both of my posts that were identical were jokes

[King Kong]

everything you post is a joke

[roach]

thank you for acknowledging my comedic value...see i am not stupid I used big words

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Someone's looking for a ban.

[roach]

What am I doing that is banworthy????

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

It's not you.

[roach]

oh ok I feel like Im taking crazy pills

[Shivsguy616]

did i miss something

It would appear so, yes.

[Timstuff]

Wings on heads... :hehe:

Niether were Superheroes. Let's just drop the whole costume and SSS thing and make Steve just be an exceptionally skilled soldier who fights a Nazi who wear a crazy goth getup (oh wait, that's all nazis).

[Tony Stark]

If they do the 616 costume while he's in the USO and do a more military type outfit ala the Ultimate 1940's costume when he's actually fighting, I think that would work.

[Webhead2006]

yea i been saying that myself for months tony, i think its a logical way things will probably go. Then it leaves modern/616 costume to be designed for him in present day, since his 40s costume/outfit detriated over the decades and only thing that survived well enough into present day with steve is the shield.

[Timstuff]

I think it would be hilarious if his USO costume is the original 616 suit, but instead of armored scales it has blue sequins. It would look reminiscent of the original and yet highlight the gaudiness and impracticality of the suit that makes Steve want to reinvent it.

http://i49.tinypic.com/r8yul4.gif

[Triad]

Ha! Interesting idea Timstuff...it would definitely get a lot of fanboys' underwear in bundles, though!

[RogueDK]

I think it would be hilarious if his USO costume is the original 616 suit, but instead of armored scales it has blue sequins. It would look reminiscent of the original and yet highlight the gaudiness and impracticality of the suit that makes Steve want to reinvent it.

http://i49.tinypic.com/r8yul4.gif
I'd like to think that this poor attempt at humor would be beneath Johnston to pull...much less Marvel. That's just sick.

And besides, this film is set in the 40s where men were men. I highly doubt that they'd ensconce their only super-soldier in a material more fitting for a caberet singer. I'd probably walk out of the theatre then and there and ask for a refund if I saw Cap sparkling...

It will be scales.

[marcvader]

plus the fact the "impractical" USO suit will more than likely be the template for what he'll wear in modern times just using modern materials.

[Webhead2006]

i just cant wait to we get more details of his costumes, and then of course once we get first images of the uso and battlefield suits.

[Maximum Carnage]

I'd like to think that this poor attempt at humor would be beneath Johnston to pull...much less Marvel. That's just sick.

And besides, this film is set in the 40s where men were men. I highly doubt that they'd ensconce their only super-soldier in a material more fitting for a caberet singer. I'd probably walk out of the theatre then and there and ask for a refund if I saw Cap sparkling...

It will be scales.

I busted out laughing after reading this! Haha! I agree.. there better be no sparkles.. anywhere. :P

[Antonello Blueberry]

Costume description here:
http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=32353

[roach]

my fears are confirmed

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

So all the Kirby and WWII costume fans like myself are getting what we want. Woo-hoo.

[Project862006]

Thank god!!

[roach]

He's going to be in the kirby inspired suit and hate it...sure thats a win win for everybody....not

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I still think that he'll go back to the original costume in the Avengers movie, and who knows, maybe he'll come around to liking it at some point.

[Aesop Rocks]

He's going to be in the kirby inspired suit and hate it...sure thats a win win for everybody....not

Back to this debate! yay!

[Son of Coul]

Who wouldn't hate the original? He's a reserved guy forced into this cheesy overly patriotic propaganda attire, he of all people would hate it and feels it's a misrepresentation of patriotism and Americans. He wants to be a soldier, not a cartoon. Then when he forges the second when he wants to be seen as a leader it'll look all badass and he'll be like "BECAUSE I'M CAPTAIN AMERICA DAMMIT, THAT'S WHY!" and he'll look way cooler and in The Avengers, he'll likely get one that's a mix, leaning more toward the Kirby, but not as ridiculous.

[roach]

Back to this debate! yay!

no I am not going to continue the discussion.....tired of arguing it

[SpiderByte]

Even if it is a rumor....

TAKE COVER!!

[Spidey_62]

I don't see what the problem is, it sounds good to me.:up:

[Shivsguy616]

Ditto! It's a great idea!

[Compi716]

Quoting from another thread...
Based on the description, it doesn't sound half-bad. I'll always lean more towards the classic design, but at least the description doesn't make it seem awful. Plus, we know this is meant to be more of a makeshift Cap costume that Steve makes, so this design works within that story.

From what I can gather, it seems that this:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1832/captainamericareborndet.jpg

Plus this:
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/arivin923/UltimateCap.jpg

With some straps = movie Cap.

Although for the Avengers I truly hope we get a direct 616 Captain America costume. It's too iconic to just ignore.

[Nivek]

Given what I read on Joblo, just from a written description, I think I am going to hate it. When they start describing straps here and there, and things being muted, and sholderpads, not to mention practically eliminating things like the torso stripes... I think it's going to be an ugly mess.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Who wouldn't hate the original? He's a reserved guy forced into this cheesy overly patriotic propaganda attire, he of all people would hate it and feels it's a misrepresentation of patriotism and Americans. He wants to be a soldier, not a cartoon. Then when he forges the second when he wants to be seen as a leader it'll look all badass and he'll be like "BECAUSE I'M CAPTAIN AMERICA DAMMIT, THAT'S WHY!" and he'll look way cooler and in The Avengers, he'll likely get one that's a mix, leaning more toward the Kirby, but not as ridiculous.
I was thinking basically the same thing. He'd hate going on the USO circuit because he'd rather be out there fighting, and since the suit is apart of it, he'd hate it.

[Iron_Stark]

The description sounds like a mix between the Ulitimates and Captain America reborn.

Sounds good to me. :up::cap:

[louiebling$]

Just read the description it literlly made me do this :facepalm:

I am not excited to see the suit anymore :csad:

[Young Superman]

The description sounds like a mix between the Ulitimates and Captain America reborn.

Sounds good to me. :up::cap:
Me Too.

[jacobed]

The description sounds good to me. Sounds like a mixture between realistic looking and the iconic costume. There was no way he would be able to wear the iconic costume in this movie, it would have looked way too ridiculous. I'm sure in The Avengers, he'll get an upgrade closer to his comic costume but for this movie it sounds like its going to be quite good.

[Chris B]

The description doesn't sound bad at all.

[Spider-Vader]

Glad, they're going WW2 Ultimate for the first movie.

But the Avengers must bring in the classic design... Minus pirate boots.

[louiebling$]

What really pisses me off is the lack of wings :argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh:

[roach]

What really pisses me off is the lack of wings :argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh:

i agree...its just weird to me that after giving us the 616 IM and a Thor that appears to have been pulled of the comic page we are getting this.

[Son of Coul]

I do think he should at least have wings stenciled or something but what can you do

[Maximillian]

Somehow, I knew the lack of wings was coming. I can understand if it looks too silly and doesn't work. But a part of me still wants the traditional design.

[roach]

I think there could have been a way to do the wings without them being silly looking. The wings to me are as important to the Cap look as the ears on Batman or the Cape on Superman. Even when I look at the wingless cowl of Ulti-Cap I see something missing

[RogueDK]

Just read the description it literlly made me do this :facepalm:

I am not excited to see the suit anymore :csad:
I just read the description a few minutes ago then afterwards made myself a stiff drink...

The description of the primary costume was complete ***t!:cmad:

Really not too pumped for this one like I am Thor.:csad:

[roach]

I just read the description a few minutes ago then afterwards made myself a stiff drink...

The description of the primary costume was complete ***t!:cmad:

Really not too pumped for this one like I am Thor.:csad:

like I said before, I dont see how they got Thor so right and then did this to Cap

[RogueDK]

like I said before, I dont see how they got Thor so right and then did this to Cap
It's just not right. Matter of fact, it's a slap in the face to the image we've grown to see that's been a staple for the character for over the last 60 years.

You just won't convince me that there aren't smart enough costume designers out there who could'nt convey Cap's tradional costume for live action without making it look silly. For Chrissakes, he's a COMIC BOOK CHARACTER! This isn't The Bridge At Remagen or Saving Private Ryan...it Captain America! A comic book superhero! :cmad:

Re-reading that straps description over again just makes me... :facepalm:tenfold. Two straps only to top it off! Not stripes. Ugh...

[roach]

and the shoulder pads....yuck

[Boom]

I don't get how an M1 Army Helmet is going to cover his eyes like a domino mask. I'm having a hard time picturing that.

[Maximillian]

The helmet will probably look something like this:

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1832/captainamericareborndet.jpg

[Webhead2006]

read about the costume news earlier. and like i said before it does sound like the uso suit as we been told will be classic kirby. But the battlefield suit will be from what that description says a modified look of the ultimates WW2 suit. Which i still say is a good suit to go for in the 40s. But then hopefully in the present day in avengers/cap sequels i hope they will him in modern 616 look. Cant wait to see how it all turns out.

[marcvader]

Not including the wings in some way will be a huge gaffe in my opinion. That's like taking Batmans pointy ears away or changing the shape of Spidermans eyes. It's part of his look and always has been. Someone please tell me the person reporting this or the site is unreliable. Now I'm getting worried. I really hope Marvel knows what they are doing with Cap.

[louiebling$]

Well its Joblo... I wouldn't say they are unrealiable... they are a legit site.

[HUMANIMAL]

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3927/testtaa.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/testtaa.jpg/)
???? i posted it at the fanart thread as well, i just dont get the idea of these straps attached to metal loop.....

[Maximillian]

LOL, I'm pretty sure it won't look that awful.

[HUMANIMAL]

no it wont :hehe: but i was wondering how they attach two straps to the center of his chest....

[roach]

Not including the wings in some way will be a huge gaffe in my opinion. That's like taking Batmans pointy ears away or changing the shape of Spidermans eyes. It's part of his look and always has been. Someone please tell me the person reporting this or the site is unreliable. Now I'm getting worried. I really hope Marvel knows what they are doing with Cap.

reading JJ's comments about the costume and the suit had me worried before this description came out. The description does match with what was said before

[jmc]

Sounds interesting but I have no emotional investment in the character so the description doesn't bother me. Probably best to wait until an image is released before going nuts, so step away from the edge folks. ;)

[Shivsguy616]

Better yet, let's not go nuts at all :) If you like the design; great, if you don't; well, it's just a costume in a film, nothing to get annoyed about. We're not discussing life-changing international fiscal policy here :oldrazz:

[roach]

who is going nuts?

[Aesop Rocks]

Kirby fanboys are.

[marvelrobbins]

I don't like taking much from the ultimate version of Cap.All I have to say we better get
a character and personality similar to 616 Cap If Marvel was stupid enough to have a cap with anti French attitudes for one this will be a disaster overseas.

[Aesop Rocks]

Agreed, Ultimates Cap is well, probably the worst way to look at the character. And he should never be combined with 616 Captain America for the sake of the film. Having a 616 Steve be in the movie works wonderfully because well, we already have an ego-driven superhero, and that's Iron Man. The writers for Ultimate Cap obviously never did their WW2 history of the French because well, they were actually a HUGE part of WW2.

[TheWatcher]

This costume sounds cool to me!
Modern costume=
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6zAVpmsNCJA/SonjwFlDrzI/AAAAAAAAAMk/I22ZFkcAb64/s400/Captain+America+Reborn+by+leinilyu.jpg
This+more realistic boots and gloves.

[roach]

no ones going nuts...we're discussing it

[RogueDK]

no ones going nuts...we're discussing it
Exactly. And if my displeasure with the film's horrid imaging of the Cap costume makes me a Kirby fanboy, so be it. Call me a Buscema , Heck and Byrne fanboy as well because they all stayed true to the classic 616 look.

Screw the Ultimate crap.

Two damn straps! Just two! And what's with this description of the faded looking star on the chest? I swear it's Punisher all over again. Why are producers so ashamed to make something like that more prominent?

Yeah, they say that the Kirby suit will be a nod to us fans of it but I can bet you that they're going to make it look sooo silly just to show people like me up that have concerns with it. :cmad:

Go Branaugh, GO THOR!!!!!! :awesome:

[marcvader]

We can blame the previous Cap films crappy take for peoples inability to visualize a well done take of the Kirby outfit. I really doubt were getting anything like it in modern times either. If their steering away from it in Caps debut solo big budget film what would make you think they'll think it's now cool in our time in the Avengers.

[Son of Coul]

They'll probably look something like this-
http://www.nexternal.com/armynavy/images/alice%20pack%20straps.jpg
Which I think is way cool.

[Aesop Rocks]

I think it's a neat idea about the straps, but only two? Come on, 4 would be perfect.

[Antonello Blueberry]

2 in the front and 2 in the back.

[RogueDK]

We can blame the previous Cap films crappy take for peoples inability to visualize a well done take of the Kirby outfit. I really doubt were getting anything like it in modern times either. If their steering away from it in Caps debut solo big budget film what would make you think they'll think it's now cool in our time in the Avengers.
You know, I might be of a very small minority here when I say this but I absolutely loved the dated attempt of the costume from the 1990 film sans the rubber ears. The movie stunk but man, I love it for it's nostalgia. Afterall, at the time I didn't think that the genre would get any better and was just grateful to see anything comic related onscreen.

That being said, if Marvel is using the excuse of past, failed attempts to legitimize this agenda, I'm just not buying it. It's very possible to make a classic costume look cool and plausible for today's audiences.

[Aesop Rocks]

So is this the basic idea behind it?

Took me longer than it should have:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2990/capg.png

The small black lines are supposed to be the straps that connect and hold it together.

[Excelsior.]

like I said before, I dont see how they got Thor so right and then did this to Cap

Different production crews. :word:

[HUMANIMAL]

what if they ment two black straps?http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9425/tets.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/i/tets.jpg/)
i still dont understand how two straps can be attached to one loop in the center....????? and how, will it cover the star or outline it....

[louiebling$]

Exactly. And if my displeasure with the film's horrid imaging of the Cap costume makes me a Kirby fanboy, so be it. Call me a Buscema , Heck and Byrne fanboy as well because they all stayed true to the classic 616 look.

Screw the Ultimate crap.

Two damn straps! Just two! And what's with this description of the faded looking star on the chest? I swear it's Punisher all over again. Why are producers so ashamed to make something like that more prominent?

Yeah, they say that the Kirby suit will be a nod to us fans of it but I can bet you that they're going to make it look sooo silly just to show people like me up that have concerns with it. :cmad:

Go Branaugh, GO THOR!!!!!! :awesome:
I'm a McNiven Fanboy :o

[Shivsguy616]

what if they ment two black straps?http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9425/tets.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/i/tets.jpg/)
i still dont understand how two straps can be attached to one loop in the center....????? and how, will it cover the star or outline it....

I assume he means center as in where the blue meets the white.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

what if they ment two black straps?
it’s actually just a white base with two red utility straps acting as stripes.I think the metal ring is underneath the star, since the guy didn't say it covered the star.

[marcvader]

Thats what i'm thinking.

[HUMANIMAL]

still trying to figure it out....could it be some sort like this?http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/9425/tets.jpg (http://img541.imageshack.us/i/tets.jpg/)

[Figs]

what if they ment two black straps?http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9425/tets.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/i/tets.jpg/)
i still dont understand how two straps can be attached to one loop in the center....????? and how, will it cover the star or outline it....

Reminds me of The Comedians body armor.

I'm not a hardcore Cap fan so i'll wait to see a picture to see if it looks good before I start judging.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

That's more like it.

[RogueDK]

I'm a McNiven Fanboy :o
Well if he's drawing classic look Cap then count me as one too. :hehe:

[Aesop Rocks]

My life would be pointless if it wasn't for HUMANIMAL.

[HUMANIMAL]

sorry aesop i dont understand exactly how you mean this?...you know im not american.....

[Aesop Rocks]

It means you're a God among men.

[Webhead2006]

another thing i was just thinking, we shouldnt get to bent out of things yet. Cause so far marvel studios costumes have been pretty good. Plus if you recall in the joblo article the author stated it was a test suit. So maybe the final version will be slightly different from what that guy even saw.

[roach]

another thing i was just thinking, we shouldnt get to bent out of things yet. Cause so far marvel studios costumes have been pretty good. Plus if you recall in the joblo article the author stated it was a test suit. So maybe the final version will be slightly different from what that guy even saw.

actually he said it was an approved test suit....a test suit is for testing how it fits, CGI and other things...for it to be approved means they did all that and that suit got the thumbs up

[Webhead2006]

well yea i was just saying even though its a test suit a few things could be changed between when the guy saw it and filming pickup up at the end of next month. But i cant wait to we see how it all turns out.

[louiebling$]

Sounds interesting but I have no emotional investment in the character so the description doesn't bother me. Probably best to wait until an image is released before going nuts, so step away from the edge folks. ;)
You feel up to making a manip based on the description provided by Joblo?

[Webhead2006]

well to me it still does sound like it will be a modified ultimates ww 2 suit. Which like i said in other posts works for ww 2 setting. Hopefully it will all look good on screen and on evans. Also hopefully when he is revived in present day he will get a steamlined suit more in style of modern suit.

[jmc]

You feel up to making a manip based on the description provided by Joblo?

I've had about 20 people send me links to that article asking the same thing. I'll think about it.

[Young Superman]

what if they ment two black straps?http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9425/tets.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/i/tets.jpg/)
i still dont understand how two straps can be attached to one loop in the center....????? and how, will it cover the star or outline it....

Not bad.

[roach]

I've had about 20 people send me links to that article asking the same thing. I'll think about it.

we aint askin' capice....just fooling:woot:

[HUMANIMAL]

It means you're a God among men.
:awesome: you are kidding right....yeah jmc...the chalenge is up to again:word: im still questioning myself how those straps work....anyone has any suggestions??? cause im gona reinvent my latest cap manip with the newest infos but i wanna be sure that i get as close to the actual idea as possible...so...straps...to the mid section of the chest....????

[louiebling$]

I've had about 20 people send me links to that article asking the same thing. I'll think about it.
Thats not a No :awesome:

[Paradox1]

I've seen a live action suit of Cap that was close to the comic and it was hoorrible. This is why I'm so against it now has nobody seen the 90's Captain America movie? The movie was disgusting too but the costume was ehhhh.http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/allposters/mg/196524.jpg

Some things only look good in comics as evident by thathttp://superherouniverse.com/art/data/500/superherocaptainamerica05.jpg

[Randal Graves]

I have no problem with the description. In fact, I'm even more sold. Thank God for no wings.

[captainrogers]

:awesome: you are kidding right....yeah jmc...the chalenge is up to again:word: im still questioning myself how those straps work....anyone has any suggestions??? cause im gona reinvent my latest cap manip with the newest infos but i wanna be sure that i get as close to the actual idea as possible...so...straps...to the mid section of the chest....????


Quick sketch based on the description of what the suit MIGHT look like....at least, how I made sense of it.
:huh:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs640.snc3/32131_409461811944_621261944_4638408_6457468_n.jpg

[Son of Coul]

Pretty much exactly how I pictured it, very nice.

[Webhead2006]

YEa i would love to see what you can whip up JMC wit hthe new description of the costume. You always doing stellar work, Same with the others like rcazzy/cas/humanial.

Also above drawing looks great. Very good work captainrogers.

[HUMANIMAL]

Quick sketch based on the description of what the suit MIGHT look like....at least, how I made sense of it.
:huh:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs640.snc3/32131_409461811944_621261944_4638408_6457468_n.jpg

wow thats a very good drawing:up: me like:word:
if there are two straps and if there are two metal loops combining them, then is this the suit we will see in film.


may i color it???:awesome:

[chris moore]

Looks very cool, and the abdominal strips look pretty much as I imagined them. But it still has a bit of a modern feel to it and I don't think we'll see the short gloves, the shoulder pads,or the sort of longjohn sleeves. I would like to, don't get me wrong. But if the source is to be believed, then his combat uniform sounds very basic and military, with a few tweaks

[HUMANIMAL]

as i was searching for military gear i found these and i think i get the idea a bit more how they gonna use those straps.http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4844/rigd.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/i/rigd.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[Dark Raven]

I don't know. The description of Cap's costume and using parts of standard military gear make it sound like a budget costume that you'd see in a TV movie, like DD's costume in The Trial of the Incredible Hulk, or the Reb Brown motorcycle helmet for Captain America in the 70s. I would rather see a high tech but faithful version of the 616 costume, made to look good and not cheap like the 90s movie. Spidey's costume in his movies looked good and yet faithful, and not anything like the Nicholas Hammond version of the 70s series. Surely they could do the same for Cap couldn't they?

[roach]

I've seen a live action suit of Cap that was close to the comic and it was hoorrible. This is why I'm so against it now has nobody seen the 90's Captain America movie? The movie was disgusting too but the costume was ehhhh.http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/allposters/mg/196524.jpg

Some things only look good in comics as evident by thathttp://superherouniverse.com/art/data/500/superherocaptainamerica05.jpg

using a low budget movie costume to prove why a costume cant work is like pointing to the 70's spider man suit as why a big budget spidey suit cant work

[roach]

Looks very cool, and the abdominal strips look pretty much as I imagined them. But it still has a bit of a modern feel to it and I don't think we'll see the short gloves, the shoulder pads,or the sort of longjohn sleeves. I would like to, don't get me wrong. But if the source is to be believed, then his combat uniform sounds very basic and military, with a few tweaks

the shoulder pads were in the description

[chris moore]

Were they? Sorry man. Pretty dead on then

[roach]

from the description:His shoulders have pads over them that extend down to about mid-bicep and are attached via a brown strap under the arm. The sleeves (for lack of a better word) are white with a fairly standard brown glove.

[captainrogers]

wow thats a very good drawing:up: me like:word:
if there are two straps and if there are two metal loops combining them, then is this the suit we will see in film.


may i color it???:awesome:

sure man. Have at it.

[Son of Coul]

Surely they could do the same for Cap couldn't they?
I think so. And I really think they will in The Avengers. No reason to worry, people who want the normal 616 outfit, they CAN make it work on screen and will. I'm willing to bet on it.

[darthlaney]

http://defense-update.com/images/Body_Armor.jpg
so...its basically blue body armour (that does not go over past the base of the chest)over a white shirt with straps.

Not exactly going all out on the costume design here - very, very, very safe (and lazy)

[roach]

http://defense-update.com/images/Body_Armor.jpg
so...its basically blue body armour (that does not go over past the base of the chest)over a white shirt with straps.

Not exactly going all out on the costume design here - very, very, very safe (and lazy)

agreed

[captaintass]

Costume description here:
http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=32353


If this is indeed the costume used for the majority of the film I am definitely OUT.

If you aren't going to put the guy from the comics onscreen then why make the movie at all??? EVERY Marvel hero gets faithfully translated except my favorite one.

Great.

[captaintass]

http://defense-update.com/images/Body_Armor.jpg
so...its basically blue body armour (that does not go over past the base of the chest)over a white shirt with straps.

Not exactly going all out on the costume design here - very, very, very safe (and lazy)

Also impossible to jump around, dodge or do anything that would be considered agile in. Believe me, I know...I have to wear that crap all the time.

[RogueDK]

http://defense-update.com/images/Body_Armor.jpg
so...its basically blue body armour (that does not go over past the base of the chest)over a white shirt with straps.

Not exactly going all out on the costume design here - very, very, very safe (and lazy)

Don't forget to add lame.

I just hope that if and when WB/DC starts production on The Flash, they won't have a momentary laspe in judgement and take the wings off of Flash's head for the sake of not getting the silly card tacked to it... :whatever:

[roach]

If this is indeed the costume used for the majority of the film I am definitely OUT.

If you aren't going to put the guy from the comics onscreen then why make the movie at all??? EVERY Marvel hero gets faithfully translated except my favorite one.

Great.

and this is what I dont understand.
Hulk is pretty much spot on but its hard to mess up Hulk's look...in fact you have to gout of your way to mess it up.
Iron man is spot on from the comics
Thor seems to be ripped from the comics page as is the Destroyer Armor...
....it just amazes me that Cap is so far off.

[RogueDK]

and this is what I dont understand.
Hulk is pretty much spot on but its hard to mess up Hulk's look...in fact you have to gout of your way to mess it up.
Iron man is spot on from the comics
Thor seems to be ripped from the comics page as is the Destroyer Armor...
....it just amazes me that Cap is so far off.
Amen.

[HUMANIMAL]

the introduction of the suit in IM is very well done so even non comic book fans can say :hey that dosent looks too childish
and they will show cap in his USO uniform which is more like the one in the comic and then people will think oh god is this awful and campy. steve also hates it and changes it for porpouse so he can go out and fight and this will convince the masses that this superhero isnt only a comic book adaptation but a more possible interpretation.
like in batman begins where they show why he runs around dressed like a bat... i mean alot of people think that such movies suck and these superheroes in thights look stupid cause they arent into comics that much but most of em liked iron man batman.

[RogueDK]

the introduction of the suit in IM is very well done so even non comic book fans can say :hey that dosent looks too childish
and they will show cap in his USO uniform which is more like the one in the comic and then people will think oh god is this awful and campy.
Because Johnston and Co. will make it look as gaudy as possible to invoke that type of reaction from viewers. It's an old trick to sway opinion visually.
You're not going to convince me that if they were going with a more classic 616 look that they couldn't have gotten more creative in conveying a plausible enough design (with wings) without going campy. They just don't want to. Ultimate look was their agenda to begin with.

[roach]

the introduction of the suit in IM is very well done so even non comic book fans can say :hey that dosent looks too childish
and they will show cap in his USO uniform which is more like the one in the comic and then people will think oh god is this awful and campy. steve also hates it and changes it for porpouse so he can go out and fight and this will convince the masses that this superhero isnt only a comic book adaptation but a more possible interpretation.
like in batman begins where they show why he runs around dressed like a bat... i mean alot of people think that such movies suck and these superheroes in thights look stupid cause they arent into comics that much but most of em liked iron man batman.

the 616 will probably be treated like the spider-man wrestling suit.

How many people looked at the Spider-man suit in the movies and thought it looked silly???

[HUMANIMAL]

true they want to show him during world war 2 so thats the way its going to look like the description says. on spiderman their approach was different, they wanted to translate the comicbook as good as possible and not making people believe that this could be possible in reality. i mean they try to translate the marvel universe like in the comics as well but with the nods to the real world. people will say the suit looks silly or wont. thats taste after all but i think we should judge on how they visualize these characters, is it a bad approach maybe, maybe not but its an intension behind it and as long it well done i dont mind at all.

[captaintass]

they will show cap in his USO uniform which is more like the one in the comic and then people will think oh god is this awful and campy. steve also hates it and changes it

Don't church it up, Dirt.

Rogers will hate it because the director wants him to. If the costume looks like ass it's because they purposely made it look like ass to fit their agenda.

[HUMANIMAL]

of course its the director, and i think it will work for the audience to show the campy suit first and then making it different.

[captaintass]

of course its the director, and i think it will work for the audience to show the campy suit first and then making it different.

What are you on about? The audience is there to see a SUPERHERO MOVIE not Saving Private Ryan!

Oh my GOD...so let's get rid of Batman's pointy ears, Superman's cape, Spidey's entire costume and Thor's helmet and hammer, too. All of those things are campy and stupid and not something you'd see in the 'real world'.

On second thought, if you are too afraid to have a superhero wear a superhero costume you shouldn't be making a superhero movie. PERIOD.

[roach]

captaintass...its a pointless argument. Go back and look at the first 100 pages. I am sure I have said the same thing.

and if anyone thinks the 616 suit is going to be used in the modern world....needs to think again. They are not going to spend a whole movie with him hating the kirby costume just for him to go back to it.

This has me very worried about the other characters now. Whats the realistic Red Skull going to look like???

[HUMANIMAL]

i agree...its just that they introduce these characters to a bigger audience an not just for the comic book fans....
they will have a more accurate look for captain in the avengers im sure....they dont get rid of the stuff which is needed to recognize em but they show and explain the inspiration behind...
hulk is an army project and not just a radiated monster after an explosion...
spidey designs his costume and it looks in the first draft like a mexican wrestler with the pointi eyes....
to have a logo on the chest is more a common thing and people know that it is a superhero movie but if only we would go to see these movies because we already like it they wouldnt be as sucsessfull as they are.

[Compi716]

I think we all need to remember that Steve doesn't hate the costume because it LOOKS stupid...rather because he FEELS stupid. We're talking about a man who wants to fight, yet he's stuck in a USO show. Of course he'll want out of the costume he's FORCED into. Then, once he goes AWOL, he realizes just how powerful the Captain America suit is and makes a MAKESHIFT costume using whatever he has.

Once he wakes up in the modern world, he'll still understand that responsibility, and will therefore accept a costume closer to what was originially given to him (i.e., 616).

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I think we all need to remember that Steve doesn't hate the costume because it LOOKS stupid...rather because he FEELS stupid. We're talking about a man who wants to fight, yet he's stuck in a USO show. Of course he'll want out of the costume he's FORCED into. Then, once he goes AWOL, he realizes just how powerful the Captain America suit is and makes a MAKESHIFT costume using whatever he has.

Once he wakes up in the modern world, he'll still understand that responsibility, and will therefore accept a costume closer to what was originially given to him (i.e., 616).
Yeah. Plus, the Spider-Man wrestling suit was supposed to be laughed at, so the comparison isn't fair to make right now, since we don't know what other people's opinions in the movie will be.

[Nightwing]

I'm a bit optimistic on how the suit will turn out. On one end I was thinking we'd be getting the traditional Cap suit and half of me was fine with that. While the other half is thinking that Cap's iconic suit will be used for The Avengers film, which could make for a nice moment. Still, I'll wait till we actually see the finished product before judging. Could go either way.
Quick sketch based on the description of what the suit MIGHT look like....at least, how I made sense of it.
:huh:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs640.snc3/32131_409461811944_621261944_4638408_6457468_n.jpg
I could definitely get behind this and it seems to be accurate compared to the description we got regaring the suit. Nice work. :up:

[RogueDK]

Don't church it up, Dirt.

Rogers will hate it because the director wants him to. If the costume looks like ass it's because they purposely made it look like ass to fit their agenda.
Exactly what I've been saying all along. SO, so true.

[KangConquers]

How utterly disappointing. So Cap is basically going to be a GI Joe action figure with a paint job. LAME.

[roach]

How utterly disappointing. So Cap is basically going to be a GI Joe action figure with a paint job. LAME.

Im glad the costume designers on Cap arent working on Thor

[Shivsguy616]

So easily many forget the simple adages. "Do not count your chickens before they are hatched"; As useful a phrase today as it was circa 570 BCE.

[chris moore]

We might be putting a little too much faith in the report we've had so far. Thor managed to have absolutely no concept, design, test leaks - and even though filming has ended, we still haven't had a full image released or leaked. Maybe we should wait a little bit, or at least assume the odd change could happen here and there.

[roach]

the description matches up with what JJ said it was going to be like.
From what we have seen of Thor we know its a faithful costume, the leaked pics of Destroyer look exactly like what it looks like in the comics.

[El Santo]

I can't even begin to understand why some people would want a guy in blue tights running around a World War 2 battlefield, so I'm not even going to try.

This "WW2 uniform" approach that they're taking for the movie? Awesome, I am 100% behind it.

[Boom]

I'm going to get beheaded for this.

I know next to nothing about Captain America, other than who he is. I'm able to recognize him, but that's the extent of my knowledge. So in that regard, I consider myself a member of the general audience when it comes to this movie.

Having said that, I like the WW2 uniform approach. I still recognize it as Captain America, it fits into the time period, and it's practical. As I said in another thread, my only wish is that there were more red stripes (straps). But otherwise, consider me among those on board with this costume (at least until we actually see the thing).

[RogueDK]

We might be putting a little too much faith in the report we've had so far. Thor managed to have absolutely no concept, design, test leaks - and even though filming has ended, we still haven't had a full image released or leaked. Maybe we should wait a little bit, or at least assume the odd change could happen here and there.
Actually that's not entirely true; there were reports from a few sites who were on set and managed to sneak a peek at Thor's costume saying that it very closely resembled that of the current 616 aesthetic.

Even from that fraction of a pic we got last month of Hemsworth left me very much encouraged of what we'll get from that flick.

J.J.'s description plus the JoBlo article's pretty much add up to the same details. No need to wait and see; this is the production crew's intention...generic Cap.:whatever:

[roach]

I can't even begin to understand why some people would want a guy in blue tights running around a World War 2 battlefield, so I'm not even going to try.

This "WW2 uniform" approach that they're taking for the movie? Awesome, I am 100% behind it.

you are right...and since no one in WW2 went into battle with shields lets get rid of that too.....and masks???? no one in WW2 had a mask on the battle field so lets get rid of that......and no one had a red, white and blue uniform so lets give him the army greens.....:whatever:

[El Santo]

No one should try to "behead" you for saying that.

This whole "but this universe had Hulk Iron Man and gods and blah blah blah, waaaah!" BS? I don't buy it.
God, comicbook fans are so narrow minded. Everything has to be *exactly* the way it is in Captain America #234234234, otherwise it just sucks and we should kill the fillmmakeeeeeers :whatever:

Just because it's the same universe, it doesn't mean that the situations are exactly the same. Regardless of the super soldier serum and whatnot, this is still World War 2. The Cap is awesome and all, but he can still get killed, and he's still a soldier, and these is still warfare.
Jesus Christ.

[sha1243]

I like the WW2 costume approach to because the movie is base in WW2 so haveing the ultimate WW2 costume make sense but i think its just going to be for this movie only and have an updated version in avengers and have it fit in with Iron Man and Thor's costume.

[El Santo]

you are right...and since no one in WW2 went into battle with shields lets get rid of that too.....and masks???? no one in WW2 had a mask on the battle field so lets get rid of that......and no one had a red, white and blue uniform so lets give him the army greens.....:whatever:

And now you're going to the extremes. Typical.
Unlike you and some other people in here, just because I am happy with this WW2 uniform approach, doesn't mean I want this to be a generic WW2 movie. This is still Captain America, and I still want to see some of the classic Cap features, or at least done in a way that wouldn't look idiotic in a WW2 battlefield.
I don't want a guy in blue tights jumping over tanks, but I still want to see that this is Captain America, and god bless the costume designer, it looks like things are going the way I wanted them to go.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

The WWII suit covers both bases with me. It works as both a superhero costume that still rings true of Captain America and as a more plausible soldier's uniform. Yes, I do think that it would be a tad ridiculous for the 616 suit to be used in war, but I also think the same of the WWII suit being used outside of battle. Come Avengers, I expect Steve to put on the classic duds for whatever reason.

[Boom]

I like the WW2 costume approach to because the movie is base in WW2 so haveing the ultimate WW2 costume make sense but i think its just going to be for this movie only and have an updated version in avengers and have it fit in with Iron Man and Thor's costume.
Agreed. I doubt they'll keep him in a WW2 uniform in the present day.

[Shivsguy616]

no one in WW2 had a mask on the battle field so lets get rid of that......

You actually think no one wore a mask on the field in WWII? :whatever:

[roach]

And now you're going to the extremes. Typical.
Unlike you and some other people in here, just because I am happy with this WW2 uniform approach, doesn't mean I want this to be a generic WW2 movie. This is still Captain America, and I still want to see some of the classic Cap features, or at least done in a way that wouldn't look idiotic in a WW2 battlefield.
I don't want a guy in blue tights jumping over tanks, but I still want to see that this is Captain America, and god bless the costume designer, it looks like things are going the way I wanted them to go.

Yes its typical that I want a character that I followed for a very long time to look the way he does in the movie. I dont mean this as an attack on you but whats the line that they stop at on deciding whats "dorky" and whats not?
What makes the "A" less "dorky" than the wings???
I said nothing about tights. I understand that somethings need to be changed when adapting something such as a comic book to a film. However when you are using "realism"...as in its more realistic for him to wear that costume in WW2 over his iconic costume.....then you open the argument to if you want it to be realistic then go realistic.

[roach]

You actually think no one wore a mask on the field in WWII? :whatever:

someone wore a mask in WW2????
If you have any evidence of someone wearing a mask on the battlefield of WW2 I'd be happy to see it. I have just spent the whole weekend watching WW2 in HD(I recommend it to everyone) and I did not see one mask

[El Santo]

Yes its typical that I want a character that I followed for a very long time to look the way he does in the movie. I dont mean this as an attack on you but whats the line that they stop at on deciding whats "dorky" and whats not?
What makes the "A" less "dorky" than the wings???
I said nothing about tights. I understand that somethings need to be changed when adapting something such as a comic book to a film. However when you are using "realism"...as in its more realistic for him to wear that costume in WW2 over his iconic costume.....then you open the argument to if you want it to be realistic then go realistic.


I appreciate you being civil.
Yeah, I do see your point, but I guess in the end we just see things differently.
You see this as more of a "faithful to the comicbook" thing, and I see it as more of a "practical WW2 costume" thing, and I guess there's a lot of people of both camps, so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, and sorry if I came off as an ass.

[roach]

Its a discussion...I havent seen anyone come off as an ass....and hope no one sees me as an ass...just a hard headed and very opinionated person.

Its just this is the thing that ticks me off about the comic book movie genre. No other genre worries over realism like that. The biggest movie of all time was about a guy putting his mind into a blue cat monkey and no one argued and fought over the realism. Transformers and Transformers 2 comes out and while people are split over the director no one is questioning the idea of alien robots coming to earth and transforming into cars....but the moment someone says they are making a superhero movie then we get the "General Audience" doesnt want to see someone running around in tights. I dont understand that argument...as if someone is going to walk out of Superman "No one told me this guy was going to be in tights...thats so unbelievable." Of the comicbook movies that failed not one of them failed because of the costume.
What really gets me is we've seen countless faithful costumes. Iron Man is faithful to what he was wearing at the time the first book came out. War machine looks spot on too. Black Widow...pretty much the same. Thor looks the same as the comics...so it boggles my mind that the same company (Marvel Studio) would pick the Ultimate costume design.

[Shivsguy616]

someone wore a mask in WW2????
If you have any evidence of someone wearing a mask on the battlefield of WW2 I'd be happy to see it. I have just spent the whole weekend watching WW2 in HD(I recommend it to everyone) and I did not see one mask


http://www.anglonautes.com/voc_war/voc_war_1/voc_war_pic_ww1_austra_soldiers_masks.jpg
http://www.cydonian.com/photos/data/media/163/troopsgasmask.jpg

[roach]

http://www.anglonautes.com/voc_war/voc_war_1/voc_war_pic_ww1_austra_soldiers_masks.jpg
http://www.cydonian.com/photos/data/media/163/troopsgasmask.jpg

yes they wore gas masks and pilots masks...however no one wore masks with the purpose of hiding their identity

[sha1243]

Its a discussion...I havent seen anyone come off as an ass....and hope no one sees me as an ass...just a hard headed and very opinionated person.

Its just this is the thing that ticks me off about the comic book movie genre. No other genre worries over realism like that. The biggest movie of all time was about a guy putting his mind into a blue cat monkey and no one argued and fought over the realism. Transformers and Transformers 2 comes out and while people are split over the director no one is questioning the idea of alien robots coming to earth and transforming into cars....but the moment someone says they are making a superhero movie then we get the "General Audience" doesnt want to see someone running around in tights. I dont understand that argument...as if someone is going to walk out of Superman "No one told me this guy was going to be in tights...thats so unbelievable." Of the comicbook movies that failed not one of them failed because of the costume.
What really gets me is we've seen countless faithful costumes. Iron Man is faithful to what he was wearing at the time the first book came out. War machine looks spot on too. Black Widow...pretty much the same. Thor looks the same as the comics...so it boggles my mind that the same company (Marvel Studio) would pick the Ultimate costume design.


i think it depends on how they make the costumes because it can look really bad or really good like iron man and thor. sure they could of just made the classic costume look good in this movie with the technology and stuff that we have today but i guess they wanted to go in a different approach in this movie cause they wanted to expand his origin so came up with the plot for two costumes but will probably see a more classic updated version in the avengers movie to fans of the classic version a happy. i can understand why they have the wings on the ww2 costume cause it wouldn't look good with the helmet but in the avengers they might put the wings back on withe the cowl for the updated costume in that movie

[Shivsguy616]

no one wore masks with the purpose of hiding their identity

I never said they did...

[roach]

i think it depends on how they make the costumes because it can look really bad or really good like iron man and thor. sure they could of just made the classic costume look good in this movie with the technology and stuff that we have today but i guess they wanted to go in a different approach in this movie cause they wanted to expand his origin so came up with the plot for two costumes but will probably see a more classic updated version in the avengers movie to fans of the classic version a happy. i can understand why they have the wings on the ww2 costume cause it wouldn't look good with the helmet but in the avengers they might put the wings back on withe the cowl for the updated costume in that movie

but to me this seems like wishful thinking....just like how some thought we'd get a more faithful Batsuit in TDK...or that the mussed up make up Joker was the first attempt at make up and during the course of TDK we'd get the vat of acid swim and a more faithful looking Joker. Yes these were actual trains of thought before TDK came out.
I just dont see him hating the suit and then putting on a modern version of the suit he hates.