Who should score Captain America?

[tamron]

Who do you think can deliver the epic score that Cap deserves?

[Franklin Richards]

We all know the answer right now.



John Williams.



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[Sentinel X]

I think James Horner would do a good job for this. If you listen to his past scores he has something that tells me he'd get the tone right for Captain America's score. After James Horner I'd chose: James Newton Howard and Alan Silvestri respectively.

[kedrell]

James Horner has always been my fan favorite choice for this. He worked with Joe Johnston before on the Rocketeer(an under-rated gem, IMO) so that's a plus. I dunno, when I hear his score for Apollo 13(especially the launch sequence music), I have images of Rogers getting strapped into the chamber where he is given the vita-rays.

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[kedrell]

We all know the answer right now.



John Williams.



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Isn't he retired?

[TheVileOne]

Who ever does it, I hope we will finally get that big, loud, awesome comic book super hero score we haven't gotten but needed for years.

I mean what comic book movie recently has had a theme as epic as the march/suites for Donner's Superman or Burton's Batman?

[kedrell]

^Not every comic book film needs that. IM didn't. But I do like those scores you mentioned. That's why I'm for Horner.

[TheVileOne]

They do though. I think Iron Man definitely could've used it. The only real cool bit of music in that one was the closing credits instrumental version of Iron Man by Black Sabbath.

The scores for the FF films were weak, sonic wallpaper, though I do generally like the work of John Ottman.

[kedrell]

I thought the IM score was excellent. Was it Sups1 or Batman'89 quality? No. But it worked regardless.

[TheVileOne]

You can say it's excellent, but my specific problem is that these movies need to start having scores of comparative quality to Superman 1 and Batman 89.

[tamron]

I thought Craig Armstrong's work on TIH was excellent. Hulk's main theme was sweeping with a homage to old school monster movies, and very memorable.

[Daredevil_2003]

Out of the ones listed I would like Williams, Shore, Newton-Howard, or Powell. Actually leaning toward Powell. Too bad I accdentally voted for Williams as I didn't notice John's name on there lol! His X3 and Bourne scores are among my all-time favorites. I wish they had mixed the audio better in X3 because I don't remember being as impressed with it in the film as I am on CD. It's fantastic.

Anyone who is the best to deliver a truly epic and heroic score befitting the character and direction/style of the film is my choice in the end, though. Whether it's one of those guys or someone I've never even heard of.

[FVD]

I loved the Iron Man score. There were some cool moments such as IM's maiden flight.

Agreed Cap should have something memorable for the years to come...

[tamron]

Actually leaning toward Powell...His X3 and Bourne scores are among my all-time favorites. I wish they had mixed the audio better in X3 because I don't remember being as impressed with it in the film as I am on CD. It's fantastic.

I love John Powell's work as well. Mr & Mrs. Smith, Paycheck, The Italian Job, The Bourne films, all really great scores.

[Ishmayl]

Silvestri would be a great choice - the fanfare in the BttF trilogy has a very heroic sound to it. I think Williams would even be good for this, but I'm not a huge Williams fan - at least, not his new stuff.

[Wesley Dodds]

John Williams. And you all know it.

[Franklin Richards]

Wouldn't it be weird / cool if they used variations of a **** lode of patriotic songs?



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[Wesley Dodds]

It'd all depend on how they did it. I do definitely want WW2 songs in there somewhere.. Edith Piaf, Vera Lynn... Stuff like that.

[Franklin Richards]

Let's not forget those Andrew Sisters. :D


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[bunk]

I would be interested to see what Silvestri could do with this.

[TheVileOne]

Powell's best work was IMHO on the Bourne movies.

X-men 3 was generally just frustrating because none of the movies have a unified theme. Ottman's music for the second one was great, but they couldn't even bring that music back.

[TheVileOne]

edit, dp.

[CaptainStacy]

Isn't he retired?

According to wikipedia, he's still active.

[chiefchirpa]

James Horner.

[TheComicbookKid]

Nick Cave and Warren Ellis(The Assassination of Jesse James)

[Asteroid-Man]

I think Steve Jablonsky would be better suited for a Cap film. I want Stephen Rippy or John Williams for Thor and Hans Zimmer to do a cover of the Ultimate Alliance Game and Lionsgate animated films soundtracks originally composed by Chance Thomas, Cris Velasco, and Mark Griskey for Avengers.

[Spider-Vader]

Isn't he retired?

No, he did Indiana Jones 4 last year.

I think he'd be the best for this movie. It's right up his alley, a mix between Indiana Jones & Saving Private Ryan would be perfect.

[kedrell]

I thought I read that Williams would only be finishing the HP series(since he's already committed) and doing the odd Speilberg film. Other than that though, he's retired, i.e. I don't think he'd be taking on other project unless the director's name is Speilberg. So I'd give it less than a 1% chance of having him score this film.

I still say James Horner is the best choice. He's worked with Johnston before.

[SPIDERMAN117]

Steve Jablonsky scores havent been too shabby....Transformers was quite nice and his score for Gears of War 2 was pretty damn good.

Althought the ideal Choice is John Williams cause he would make something amazing....But I do think James Horner would be quite well.

Philip Glass could be cool. Alot of his scores are quite good...he'd probally make a pretty nice piano theme for Captain America.

[Spider-Vader]

I thought I read that Williams would only be finishing the HP series(since he's already committed) and doing the odd Speilberg film. Other than that though, he's retired, i.e. I don't think he'd be taking on other project unless the director's name is Speilberg. So I'd give it less than a 1% chance of having him score this film.

I still say James Horner is the best choice. He's worked with Johnston before.

Awww... Man. I really hope that's not true. He's the best composer ever.

[djkris]

Harry Gregson Williams. He scored the "Narnia" movies, "Kingdom of Heaven", hell, he scored the "Metal Gear Solid" games and he nailed the tone there.

[Brian Braddock]

James Horner.

Because of his amazing Star Trek and Aliens work (I'm citing 'Genesis Countdown' from Wrath of Khan and 'Ripley's Rescue' from Aliens as my most favourite Horner tracks)

[Brian Braddock]

I think James Horner would do a good job for this. If you listen to his past scores he has something that tells me he'd get the tone right for Captain America's score.

Yeah, the militaristic drums and horns in the Aliens score really fit Cap. Anyone who's heard 'Combat Drop' will know what I mean.


James Horner has always been my fan favorite choice for this. He worked with Joe Johnston before on the Rocketeer(an under-rated gem, IMO) so that's a plus. I dunno, when I hear his score for Apollo 13(especially the launch sequence music), I have images of Rogers getting strapped into the chamber where he is given the vita-rays.

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I was unaware that he worked on Rocketeer. In that case, I'm convinced even moreso.

He's already done the score for a 1940' superhero adventure tale directed by the same guy - what could be better preperation than that?

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[Daredevil_2003]

Yeah I wouldn't mind Horner at all. I think he's very hit and miss as of late but when he's on, he's pretty damn good.

My only concern is if he's off. Then it could be mediocrity.

[Chris B]

I'll give my vote to James Horner.

[Carlo Comicus]

John Williams.

[Hypestyle]

hmm... hope the score wins some awards..

[kedrell]

I'll give my vote to James Horner.

Bless you sir. I've been hoping for him ever since I heard Johnston was gonna be the director. I can only see it as a positive that they've already worked together before.

[SPIDERMAN117]

Personally if James Horner can do a mix of "Glory" and a bit of "The Last of the Mohicans" score. I think we'd have a perfect score for Captain America.

For some reason when I imagine cap's theme I think about a Low Brass entrance into the song....then a trumpet or french horn solo of his actual theme. With a violin solo in there somewhere.

[kedrell]

Personally if James Horner can do a mix of "Glory" and a bit of "The Last of the Mohicans" score. I think we'd have a perfect score for Captain America.

For some reason when I imagine cap's theme I think about a Low Brass entrance into the song....then a trumpet or french horn solo of his actual theme. With a violin solo in there somewhere.

Throw a little "Apollo 13" into the mix as well and I'm sold. Especially for the Operation: Rebirth scene.

[snakeinthegear]

Harry Gregson Williams. He scored the "Narnia" movies, "Kingdom of Heaven", hell, he scored the "Metal Gear Solid" games and he nailed the tone there.

Yeah his score on the MGS games are just heroically epic. Very fitting for Cap.

[Aesop Rocks]

Personally for the trailer or teaser trailer they should use this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRHOk93QXQc&feature=PlayList&p=86913A1743349143&index=0&playnext=1

The snare drum and the overall powerful feeling behind it would be perfect, IMO.

[kedrell]

Personally for the trailer or teaser trailer they should use this:
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The snare drum and the overall powerful feeling behind it would be perfect, IMO.


Fixed.

[Brian Braddock]

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[Aesop Rocks]

Fixed.

Wait, what?

[kedrell]

Wait, what?


Your youtube enbed wasn't working.

[Aesop Rocks]

Oh my bad, new to vB stuff. :/

[Nirvana]

Danny Elfman. He's delivered plenty of times with Comic films (Batman, Spider-Man, Hulk, Wanted, Hellboy II, Dick Tracy, etc), I think he should have a go at Captain America.

[bunk]

James Horner ftw.

[kedrell]

Awww... Man. I really hope that's not true. He's the best composer ever.

Hmm, I'd say William's best stuff is well behind him. I mean what has he done that stands out since the late 1980's/early 1990's. I can't think of anything.

[Brian Braddock]

James Horner ftw.

My new slogan in regards to who should score Captain America:

'I have the horn for Horner'

[Metal Spidey]

What does score mean?

[Brian Braddock]

Music made exclusively for a movie.

[Iron_Stark]

Sharon Carter, a couple of hot WWII nurses and maybe some "bad" Nazi girls.

[kedrell]

^What do they know about scoring a movie?:oldrazz:

[Brian Braddock]

I guess Iron Stark means they'd score with Cap.

An Interesting and witty take on the title of this thread, I might add.

[kedrell]

Hehehehe, got it.

[simplysuperhero]

James Horner. The soundtrack to Glory blew me away. Surprised few voted for Hans Zimmer.

[kedrell]

^Well Zimmer's stuff sounds very much like anything else he does, i.e. there's very little differentiation between his pieces. Horner is catching up to Williams. :)

[Silver Spider]

My first choice would be John Williams but I heard that he's semi-retired.

I would like it if John Ottman scored Cap's movie. Even though the Fantastic Four movies were sub-par, I thought they had amazing scores. And as someone else mentioned he had a great scoring of X2. I also thought his revamping of John Williams' music, for Superman Returns was excellent.

[Superhero 101]

I would like Williams to Score
but i know he wouldn't so i voted for Jablonsky.

[Spider-Vader]

I really hope Marvel can get Williams for this. He'd be perfect.

[Timstuff]

I'd say James Horner or John Williams. The music needs to have a "classic" sound to it IMO, since Cap is such an old and iconic character.

[Spider-Vader]

Yeah, Cap's theme should be fun & uplifting. Though, any war scenes should be dramatic. Right up William's alley.

Horner would be okay, but I really want Williams to do this. One Marvel character must get a memorable theme & Cap seems like the right one.

[kedrell]

^Both Cap & Thor should get one, IMO. But I just can't see Williams doing it.

[Timstuff]

I wouldn't rule Williams out.

[Sawyer]

Michael Giacchino.... for every movie... EVER.

[Brian Braddock]

Giacchino's actually a really decent shout. I'm still vying for Horner, but still................

[chiefchirpa]

Giacchino actually started his career by composing music for a 90's WW2 game "Medal of Honor".

[SWAT]

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Worked with Johnston before... Great score... Would't be that strange if the was chosen to do it.

And he has done a Marvel film before :p

[kedrell]

Mark Isham? What Marvel film did he do? I checked and didn't see one in his filmography, unless I just missed it.

[Brian Braddock]

Blade.

[kedrell]

Oh, ok. I must've missed that.

[Webhead2006]

sounds nice. i dont know much of any other of his works but that clip sounded good. And since we know cap is going to be set in 40s we should get some classic sounding music for the movie.

[Brian Braddock]

Oh, ok. I must've missed that.

Hey, it's easy to do - for the longest time, I thought only the soundtrack was available; it's only in the last few years that I've actually gotten my hands on the actual score and learned that it was by Isham.

[Kent]

I often think people suggest John Williams for movies that would not fit with his style.
It seems like people will just throw his name out there for any movie of any kind.

But for Captain America I definitely think he'd be the right choice.

[kedrell]

The guy who made this fan-trailer had the right idea, music-wise. Horner all the way!:woot:

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[Carlo Comicus]

I think an official announce is near.

[kedrell]

I sure hope so. We've got Thor & GL casting news up. Now it's time to hear who'll be wearing the stars & stripes. And who'll be scoring, hopefully.

[sdn]

I often think people suggest John Williams for movies that would not fit with his style.
It seems like people will just throw his name out there for any movie of any kind.

But for Captain America I definitely think he'd be the right choice.

Absolutely correct. It would be so awesome to have a Captain America theme composed by John Williams. He can write perfectly for the era as well. I say if he's willing to do it, they should absolutely give it to him. he won't be around forever, either.

Aside from his legendariness, he's got the credentials too.

Epic stories? Check (Starwars, Raiders of the Lost Ark)
War music? Check (Saving Private Ryan, The Patriot)
Superhero? Check (Superman)

It would only be appropriate that the icon of American film music would score Captain America.

[kedrell]

What do you Williams-boosters really think are the odds that he'll actually agree to score this movie?

I happen to think it's remote, which is probably the main reason I'm not in his camp. Do I think he could do a good job? Hell yes! But I'd say the odds of him coming on board this project are about 10 to 1 against that happening.

[sdn]

What do you Williams-boosters really think are the odds that he'll actually agree to score this movie?

I happen to think it's remote, which is probably the main reason I'm not in his camp. Do I think he could do a good job? Hell yes! But I'd say the odds of him coming on board this project are about 10 to 1 against that happening.

I'd have to say the odds are pretty slim, unless he decides to do it for the sake of doing Captain America. I'd say 1 in 10.

If he can't or won't do it, I'd bet that the composer will be...

Don Davis

His work in the Matrix trilogy was pretty mind-blowing, and John Williams recommended him to take over for him for Jurassic Park 3 (directed by Joe Johnston, too). He's probably cheaper than Horner, too.

[SPIDERMAN117]

Michael Giacchino

I have a strong feeling he'll be doing the score. He's done some paramount films and I honestly think he has the right tune for Captain America.

[kedrell]

^He'd be a good choice as well. BTW, what other composers have worked w/ Johnston, besides Horner. We should be looking at them before guys he's never worked with yet, IMO. More often than not, directors like to work w/ people they've already built a relationship with through past films. I'll check IMDB as see what it says.

[kedrell]

Ok, composers Johnston has worked with:

Danny Elfman(The Wolfman)
James Newton Howard(Hidalgo)
Don Davis(Jurassic Park 3)
Mark Isham(October Sky)
James Horner(Jumanji, The Pagemaster, The Rocketeer, Honey I Shrunk The Kids)
Laurence Rosenthal(Young Indiana Jones episode and a special)

And that's it as a director. Obviously he's worked with Horner much more than anyone else. Isham, Howard and Elfman are contenders though.

[Webhead2006]

i would prefer to see someone new and not elfman or williams i love thier works but i would like to see some new blood.

[kedrell]

Well Horner and Howard ain't new, but I know their works. Rosenthal? Never heard of him, same with Davis. Isham isn't all that well known to me, I'll have to check into his stuff.

[Spider-Vader]

The guy who made this fan-trailer had the right idea, music-wise. Horner all the way!:woot:

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Sounds like it's from Saving Private Ryan which Williams composed. :woot:

[kedrell]

Sounds like it's from Saving Private Ryan which Williams composed. :woot:


Actually it's from Apollo 13, which Horner composed.

[Poeman]

Michael Giacchino

The guy who scores the LOST tv show and Call of Duty game

[Spider-Vader]

Actually it's from Apollo 13, which Horner composed.
Ah, you broke me. :csad:


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[DarkReflections]

john williams is hands down my choice, on who should score the cap.

[CWP]

I'd say Harry Gregson-Williams, he'd do something pretty epic and classical. But John Powell took my vote just because it might have more potential.

[Hurm...]

This movie fits Williams perfectly. I really hope they hire him.

Something similar to this should be composed...

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[Webhead2006]

Well i do really love williams and have enjoyed all the classic scores he has done superman/star wars/indiana jones/etc,... But i would perfer to have some new blood guy have a shot. It weird to have most comic scores only done by elfman/williams.

[kedrell]

^Pretty much how I feel.

[Webhead2006]

Yea those two are my top favs of musical scores for films and all that. But i dont want to see pretty much every hero under the sun done by them. Their is tons of wonderful choices out their i think who could make a great classic score like elfman/williams have done for their films and all that. As for who they are i dont really follow musical folks so i cant really think of to many names.

[CELTICPRED]

I like that a lot of people are behind Horner on this one.

I'm a big fan of his work on Aliens, his use of horns over those military snares are certainly something that I can hear over Cap kicking some butt.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Hans Zimmer. I know alot of people aren't going to agree so have at it...

[Spider-Vader]

Horner did 'Aliens'? Maybe he'd be good for it then.

I think Zimmer should do 'Thor'.

[daywalker2007]

This movie is tailor made for James Horner. he's already done one epic "rocketeer" and that was a corker of a movie and score.
So I say let Horner come on board, he would give us some terrific music for Captain America.

No need for any Hans Zimmers or Elfman's here! We don't need 2 note power chord themes like Zimmer's!
We need someone who brings the scenes to life like James Horner.

I believe James Horner will do it as well if asked.

[daywalker2007]

Please, whatever they do, I hope and pray they don't let Hans Zimmer or Giachinno anywhere near this movie.
This movie needs epic music, and only James Horner, John Williams, Alan Silvestri, Mark Isham or a Don Davis could do it proper justice.
We don't need anymore Danny Elfman superhero scores, he's done far too many, and no need for Giachinno either, other composers deserve a chance ahead of him.

Just stick to the best person available, and thats James Horner.
John Williams probably wouldn't do it, as he far too many other projects on the go.

But if there ever was a need for a classic score, James Horner IS THE MAN!!

Since Joe Johnston is directing, there is at least a 50% chance of Horner getting the job, I certainly hope so!

[Timstuff]

Agreed, I'd say that there's at least a 50% chance that Horner will be the one doing the score, since as far as I can tell he's the only composer that Johnston has worked with multiple times. The one snag is that he hasn't worked with Horner since Mighty Joe Young, so I'm not sure if there's some kind of hang up between them. If not Horner though, the other two high-profile composers he's worked with have been James Newton Howard (Hidalgo) and Danny Elfman (Wolfman). Frankly though, I think Elfman needs a break from comic book movies, so if it's not going to be Horner it should be Newton Howard-- unless Johnston wants to continue his current trend, and goes for Howard Shore. ;)

John Williams could probably do a great Cap score as well, however unless it's a movie being produced by Spielberg or Lucas he's pretty much retired now.

[Brian Braddock]

Please, whatever they do, I hope and pray they don't let Hans Zimmer or Giachinno anywhere near this movie.
This movie needs epic music, and only James Horner, John Williams, Alan Silvestri, Mark Isham or a Don Davis could do it proper justice.
We don't need anymore Danny Elfman superhero scores, he's done far too many, and no need for Giachinno either, other composers deserve a chance ahead of him.

Just stick to the best person available, and thats James Horner.
John Williams probably wouldn't do it, as he far too many other projects on the go.

But if there ever was a need for a classic score, James Horner IS THE MAN!!

Since Joe Johnston is directing, there is at least a 50% chance of Horner getting the job, I certainly hope so!

Emphatically agreed.

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[kedrell]

Agreed, I'd say that there's at least a 50% chance that Horner will be the one doing the score, since as far as I can tell he's the only composer that Johnston has worked with multiple times. The one snag is that he hasn't worked with Horner since Mighty Joe Young, so I'm not sure if there's some kind of hang up between them. If not Horner though, the other two high-profile composers he's worked with have been James Newton Howard (Hidalgo) and Danny Elfman (Wolfman). Frankly though, I think Elfman needs a break from comic book movies, so if it's not going to be Horner it should be Newton Howard-- unless Johnston wants to continue his current trend, and goes for Howard Shore. ;)

John Williams could probably do a great Cap score as well, however unless it's a movie being produced by Spielberg or Lucas he's pretty much retired now.

Johnston didn't have anything to do with MJY. Although Horner did score it. Ron Underwood directed that movie.

[Dark Phantom]

I agree with the majority, but Klaus Badelt is very underrated. I'd greatly consider him as a possible choice. Listen to his score for The Time Machine (2002). He truly knows how to compose an epic fleeting score.

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my personal favorite:

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[kedrell]

^He;d be ok, I guess. That stuff sounded decent.

[Brian Braddock]

I did really like Badelt's Equilibrium score at points.

[Dark Phantom]

I just have a strong feeling whoever Johnston does choose as composer...it wont be anyone we've mentioned. Making our hopes and speculations pointless :csad:

James Horner is still a 50/50

[Webhead2006]

well even if it isnt anyone mentioned before it could still be a good pick.

[Party Crasher]

James Horner ftw!

[SPIDERMAN117]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfS9-ZIuVLs

This should be the music played with the trailer!

[Silvermoth]

that vid didn't work for me Spider117. It says there's an error.

Rather than have a typical movie score, I would love it if the film contained popular songs from the 1930's and 40's to make it seem classy and refined. Songs like "knock on wood" or "I don't want to set the world on fire".

I'm fasinated by the idea of a superhero period piece by Marvel.

[Steve Holt]

that vid didn't work for me Spider117. It says there's an error.

Rather than have a typical movie score, I would love it if the film contained popular songs from the 1930's and 40's to make it seem classy and refined. Songs like "knock on wood" or "I don't want to set the world on fire".

I'm fasinated by the idea of a superhero period piece by Marvel.

someone's been playing fallout 3 lol

[Silvermoth]

lol, I wish!

I was looking forward to getting Falllout 3 but my xbox 360 got the red rings of death...twice. So I sold it (once it was repaired) and got a wii.

[Steve Holt]

lol, I wish!

I was looking forward to getting Falllout 3 but my xbox 360 got the red rings of death...twice. So I sold it (once it was repaired) and got a wii.


not the rings, anything but the rings.

you got a WII!!!! YOU CALL YOURSELF A GEEK hahahahaha

just kidding

[Silvermoth]

ha! Don't knock the wii man, it works when you hit the on switch! ;)

[Brian Braddock]

For any newcomers to the thread, here's a Youtube vid of an 'Aliens' Combat Rescue Countdown suite compilation that I came across which shows to me why, in my mind, James Horner was born to score Captain America.

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Horner..............................:up:

[DarthDaveBanner]

Horner is a MUST.