The Marvel Heroes Battle Thread

[Majic Walrus]

"Just" invulnerable?

Just what in the blue hell is Herc going to do to stop it? There's absolutely nothing I can think of that he could realistically do before being beaten to death.

Herc's tough but it's not enough.

^ This.

[Johnny Drama]

If Herc ever actually DID beat The Destroyer it would be a cop-out...

[Genesis 1.0]

Or the product of several illict activities during the writing of the arc.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Destroyer wins 9-2

[The_Mighty_Thor]

SHE HULK

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/25807/571015-she_hulk_27_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/she_hulk_27/105-571015/)

VS

SIF

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/26948/504878-lady_sif_of_asgard_by_spiderguile_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/lady_sif_of_asgard_by_spiderguile/105-504878/)

[Chris Wallace]

Sif.

[Silicon Surfer]

Sif

[Genesis 1.0]

She-HUlk, although VERY strong and intelligent, is 1 dimensional. She's pure brute force.

Sif's strong but she's got ALOT more at her disposal and she's alot more experienced and saavy.

Sif

[greenrage36]

I think Sif can take this one...

[3dman27]

sif

[Majic Walrus]

This is like Hulk vs. Thor with chicks.

Sif wins.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

This is like Hulk vs. Thor with chicks.

Sif wins.

Well not exactly. Thor and Hulk are in the same ball park strength wise but She Hulk is way stronger than Sif.

6-0 Sif so far.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'll go with Sif. In spite of Slott's whole Champion arc, She-Hulk is still basically treated like a brawler. Sif's got experience and technique over her, and the Asgardians are used to fighting physically superior foes anyway.

[Genesis 1.0]

Frost Giants anyone?

[TheCorpulent1]

Pretty much. She wouldn't even need a flying horse for She-Hulk. ;)

[Genesis 1.0]

Meh, why not just call up Ymir or Surtur?

Hands free.

[TheCorpulent1]

They ain't exactly buddies with the Asgardians, though. Sif and Jen would both get squashed by them.

[Genesis 1.0]

Sif could vanish, while Jen's stuck on foot.

[Silicon Surfer]

Sif's sword is enchanted by Odin to possess the same dimension spanning powers as Mjolnir. Sif can use this to bfr Jen to any unpleasant nether dimension she may happen to know of.

[Anubis]

Eh, i'm gonna go with She-Hulk. I am one who will not forget Slott's champion arc and remember the fact that she's got Space Kung Fu and is in fact waaaay stronger than Sif.

[Genesis 1.0]

Doesn't do you much good when you can't hit her or she vanishes or warps you elsewhere or uses a force blast or.....

[Anubis]

But she's also an Asgardian, and therefore wont use such cowardly tactics to fight somebody.

[Silicon Surfer]

As is often true in the real world the Asgardian women are more bloody than the men. Depending on mood Sif May just decide to dice Jen into 1" cubes rather than waste time fighting a drawn out battle against a mere mortal. Sif has in the past displayed a disdain for mortals.

[Genesis 1.0]

It's an Asgardian phase that they all grow out of....

Except Loki.

[Anubis]

I don't know, I think he kinda has a thing for Spider-Man.

[CanaryFan]

Sif

[Genesis 1.0]

I don't know, I think he kinda has a thing for Spider-Man.

SO beneath him.

A choice of any goddess in either universe or Peter?

Enchantress > Spider-Man

[Anubis]

We are talking about a guy who f**ked a horse. I don't think he much cares.

[Genesis 1.0]

Point.

[Silicon Surfer]

We are talking about a guy who f**ked a horse. I don't think he much cares.

On Loki's behalf, he only did that because if he didn't Odin, Thor and the rest of the Asgardians would have taken their anger out on him.

[Genesis 1.0]

No excuse for getting your inner Ed on.

[Hound55]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Houndawg55/spider-Equus.jpg

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I'll throw in with the Shield Maiden from Asgard.

Sif wins 8-0

[The_Mighty_Thor]

CRYSTAL

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/35011/769083-crystal_large.png (http://www.comicvine.com/crystal/105-769083/)

VS

MALICE

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/Malice_III_001.jpg

[Majic Walrus]

Crystal

[TheCorpulent1]

I'll go with Malice. Invisible force fields with no morals to limit their potential seem more potent than control of the elements.

[Ahura Mazda]

Malice

[Silicon Surfer]

This is a real tossup since whoever unloads first wins. Neither one can withstand the others powers at all. Since Crystal is the most powerful overall though, Crystal ftw.

[3dman27]

Crystal

[Anubis]

Malice.

S&M for the win.

And that Sif/She-Hulk Match was 8 -1. What? An ebony God's vote don't count? This ain't Florida. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

We count black folks' votes in Florida. If by "Florida," you mean Miami.

[WolfCypher]

Crystal

[Genesis 1.0]

They're pretty much even, whoever hits the other 1st, wins.

Malice

[CanaryFan]

Malice can at least defend Crystals attacks with a force field, Crystal has no real defense.

Malice

[Silicon Surfer]

Unless you count massive walls of solid rock raised to prevent movement and block sight. Or to entomb Malice completely.

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah, not much of a defense, 'eh?

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I'm Voting for Malice. Rock may work well as a shield but it's really, really, really hard to block what you can't see, unless you just raise a shield full time and completely block your own vision. Not that she could even see Malice if Malice didn't want her to.

6-4 Malice.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

TERRAX

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/38780/874413-terrax_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/terrax/105-874413/)

VS

NAMOR

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/25493/736996-ult_namor_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/ult_namor/105-736996/)

Battle takes place on a small island in the Pacific

[The_Mighty_Thor]

And that Sif/She-Hulk Match was 8 -1. What? An ebony God's vote don't count? This ain't Florida. :o

OOPS!

We count black folks' votes in Florida. If by "Florida," you mean Miami.

I always suspected Miami was part of the underworld!

[Anubis]

Terrax

[Hound55]

Terrax. Even with the abundance of water it won't do Namor any good.

Terrax can stand in the middle of the island, levitate the entire island, separate the rest of the island from the square yard he's standing on and drop the friggin' island, or chunks of it if he so chooses, on Namor's head.

If Namor gets Terrax underwater it won't last long because he'll just raise the Earth up beneath him.

Terrax to make it an airborne battle and Namor's wings won't be enough from falling atolls...

[3dman27]

the sub-mariner

[The_Mighty_Thor]

2-1 Terrax

[Silicon Surfer]

Terrax

[Genesis 1.0]

How is this even a match? Where's the F'N beef?

Terrax. Period.

[TheCorpulent1]

Terrax. Versatility wins when all other elements are equal.

[Majic Walrus]

Namor.

[Hound55]

Namor.
How?!?

I know this isn't "my" topic but please don't just drift in here drop "Namor" and leave it at that. I mean I've seen from other topics that you're capable of forming your own take on logic, so why not explain how that's even possible.

Personally, by the match-up I'm having trouble seeing how, short of Terrax suddenly being struck by a hefty case of mental retardation...

[Genesis 1.0]

How?!?

I know this isn't "my" topic but please don't just drift in here drop "Namor" and leave it at that. I mean I've seen from other topics that you're capable of forming your own take on logic, so why not explain how that's even possible.

Personally, by the match-up I'm having trouble seeing how, short of Terrax suddenly being struck by a hefty case of mental retardation...

HA!:o

Thank you. This post sums up what I'm thinking.

I don't see an avenue for Namor to win that even remotely makes sense.

[TheCorpulent1]

He could arguably be faster than Terrax underwater. The Sentry took Terrax out easily by blitzing him and punching him in the head.

[Genesis 1.0]

He could arguably be faster than Terrax underwater. The Sentry took Terrax out easily by blitzing him and punching him in the head.

-How's he going to get Terrax underwater?

-Even if they are underwater, they won't stay that way for long before Terrax changes it in his favor.

-Even if you give Namor a speed edge, which I wouldn't, he's still not strong enough to do the damage.

-Wait....you're comparing the SENTRY to NAMOR?:o

[TheCorpulent1]

Your third point is debatable. Personally, based on what I've seen of the Sentry since his return from amnesia, he's no stronger than Namor should be underwater.

The other two are valid. It'd be tough to spin the fight in Namor's favor, which is why I voted for Terrax. I was just giving the only scenario I could think of in Namor's favor.

[Genesis 1.0]

Sentry gets no cred, so that doesn't surprise me. It doesn't change the fact that to me, he's still one of the strongest in the MU and Namor's not.

[Hound55]

Namor may as well be at maximum strength to me, because if he's not in the water he's not going to have been out of it long enough for it to be significant.

But that's hardly the point anyway, I just don't see him ever getting near Terrax unless Terrax is a complete imbecile... which he's not.

[Silicon Surfer]

Namor is indeed one of the strongest in the MU, much stronger than Terrax. He is strong enough to have beaten the Hulk multiple times. It won't help however. Terrax' durability, axe and other powers are simply too much.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Terrax leads 5-2

[greenrage36]

I just don't see Namor beating Terrax here..the ol' herald has too many combat options, either above or below water..so Terrax ftw!

:bh:

[Genesis 1.0]

Namor is indeed one of the strongest in the MU, much stronger than Terrax. He is strong enough to have beaten the Hulk multiple times. It won't help however. Terrax' durability, axe and other powers are simply too much.

No way is Namor even Top 10 in strength.:o

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Namor is indeed one of the strongest in the MU, much stronger than Terrax. He is strong enough to have beaten the Hulk multiple times. .

Much stronger than Terrax. I don't know about that. And I don't think he ever beat Hulk based on strength, in fact I can remember Namor and Surfer combined struggling to hold him back in Defenders. On the other hand he did go toe to toe with Thor in Atlantis rising and show that he can hold his own with someone with greater strength and more variety of powers than himself. Terrax on the other hand consistantly gets nerfed. He's always getting his ass kicked by somebody he should be able to beat on paper. Often arrogance and/or stupidity leads to his downfall in some convoluted way but when he's that arrogant/stupid in every appearance you have to consider it a legitimate part of his character. That's why I thought this would make a half decent match and why I'll toss namor a pity vote. Maybe he surpises Terrax with a long forgotten electric eel shock and then sucker punches him into next week, maybe

5-4 Terrax.

[Silicon Surfer]

Marvel has placed Terrax's strength at the 70 ton level when he possessed the PC from Galactus. Galactus took that power back and Terrax was given a weaker version by Doom. Whether Terrax still has the weaker version or whether Galactus has restored him to his former power levels I don't know but AFAIK Galactus has not done so. I believe it is Leader's Lair that has the Hulk vs Namor fights and yes he defeats the Hulk with raw power. In fact it shows no victories for the Hulk at all. According to a site devoted to the Hulk, Namor has won every fight that has gone to a conclusion.

[CanaryFan]

Terrax

[Majic Walrus]

How is it when I vote Namor I get **** but one else does?

Namor is strong, at least as strong as Terrax.

The battle is in the water, last I checked that give Namor an advantage against anyone. Speed and Strength are both astronomically increased due to the water conditions.

No way Terrax is strong enough to move Earth. He's moved big things before but never the size of Earth.

Also just because he can survive in space doesn't necessarily mean that he can survive underwater. Especially if this is "former herald" Terrax.

[Hound55]

How is it when I vote Namor I get **** but one else does?
Piss poor timing, you were the last one to make a one word post in here. If 3dman27 were to be that last man then he'd have been the one I quoted.

Namor is strong, at least as strong as Terrax.
Quite possibly, but I see it as largely irrelevant.

The battle is in the water, last I checked that give Namor an advantage against anyone. Speed and Strength are both astronomically increased due to the water conditions.
Last I checked the battle was on a small island... very close proximity to water, but not initially in the water itself.

No way Terrax is strong enough to move Earth. He's moved big things before but never the size of Earth.
That's a fair point I guess but I didn't see anyone suggesting that Terrax move the whole Earth... Last I checked though, dude has the power cosmic over molecules of rock and Earth. Nothing that I suggested is outside of his capacity... Edit: ah, I see. My bad, I capitalised "earth". Should have read "If Namor gets Terrax underwater it won't last long because he'll just raise the earth up beneath him."

Also just because he can survive in space doesn't necessarily mean that he can survive underwater. Especially if this is "former herald" Terrax.
Again, I don't know that I nor anyone else even posed this as a point.

I can only see two avenues for Namor in this:
1. Terrax is suddenly struck down with mental retardation.
2. Unspeakably piss poor writing.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Terrax wins 6-4

[The_Mighty_Thor]

UNION JACK

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4053/129898-190896-union-jack_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/190896-union-jack/105-129898/)

VS

DAREDEVIL

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/497765-daredevil07_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/daredevil07/105-497765/)

[TheCorpulent1]

Daredevil. I love Union Jack but he's just a guy. DD's senses put him a bit outside of UJ's league.

[Anubis]

Dd.

[Hound55]

Unless we're talking Brian Falsworth post Thor battle, giving him lightning projection, its Horn Head easy...

And even if we're talking that Union Jack I still don't know that I'd bet against the man without fear...

[Majic Walrus]

Piss poor timing, you were the last one to make a one word post in here. If 3dman27 were to be that last man then he'd have been the one I quoted.

How the hell is "the sub-mariner" different from "Namor"?!

As for the rest of your well spoken argument. :oldrazz:


In this fight... are we talking Brian? Brian with lightning projection and super...everything he takes it. Otherwise it's Daredevil.

[3dman27]

DD takes it

[Silicon Surfer]

Brian was a product of the Super Soldier Serum and was highly skilled with and without weapons. He routinely carried both a gun and a knife and his typical foes included the likes of Baron Blood and Master Man. He would defeat and even kill Daredevil fairly easily. I suspect though that I will be the only one to vote for him. :)

[CanaryFan]

Union Jack

[TheCorpulent1]

Joe Chapman's the Union Jack I know, so that's who I voted based on. Maybe we should get some clarification on which version this is...

[Silicon Surfer]

Union Jack

How'd that happen?

[Genesis 1.0]

In a bloody, TV-MA battle....

Union Jack

[Majic Walrus]

Which Union Jack is this again? If it's the pictured version its the earliest incarnation which is why I vote for DD, if it's the current incarnation I change my vote to UJ.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

It's the ORIGINAL real Union Jack from the Invaders

[Hound55]

It's the ORIGINAL real Union Jack from the Invaders
And with that my vote stays comfortably with the Horn Head...

[Ace of Knaves]

Union Jack. He'd just shoot DD if it came down to it.

[TheCorpulent1]

Because Daredevil's never faced guys with guns before...

[CanaryFan]

How'd that happen?

I was overwhelmed by his pure awesomness, as Daredevil would be.

This guy's an equal to Captain America and has stormed PLATOONS of machine gun toting crouts in the midst of air stikes and tank fire with out a super shield. That's alot more guns than any little mobster den of the Kingpin has ever had. One little hornball with hyper senses ain't gonna take him down.

[greenrage36]

Yeah..I dunno, Union Jack certainly has a chance of getting the better of DD more than a few times. For a one-off match though, I'll go with Horn Head.

:bh:

[Silicon Surfer]

I was overwhelmed by his pure awesomness, as Daredevil would be.

This guy's an equal to Captain America and has stormed PLATOONS of machine gun toting crouts in the midst of air stikes and tank fire with out a super shield.

The spelling is Kraut from sauerkraut which is the food that the Germans carried with them on ships to stave of scurvy just as the British were called Limeys because they carried limes for the same reason.

[Hound55]

This guy's an equal to Captain America
If it was the first Union Jack or the current one... he's not in the same world.
Brian Falsworth would easily be the closest, since he's been exposed to a variant of the Super Soldier formula and at his peak also possessed the ability to fire lightning from his fingertips after an encounter with Thor.
The first Union Jack had NO superhuman abilities. Daredevil would have beaten him like a bad habit.
Joey Chapman also hasn't been exposed to any form of Super Soldier formula at all, but was boosted by the Power of the Pendragon... but last I heard his power's taken a major hit because the Knights of the Pendragon broke up.
One little hornball with hyper senses ain't gonna take him down.
Unless its Brian, and I have no reason to believe it is, that just isn't true.

Brian is the exception to the rule in this battle... if it is him that changes things.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Daredevil wins 7-4

[The_Mighty_Thor]

POLARIS

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6179/614481-xmkngbr003_cov_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/xmkngbr003_cov/105-614481/)

VS

THE SCARLET WITCH
(Classic level hex power and rudamentary sorcery)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/852276-scarlet_witch___complete_by_emeraldfury_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/scarlet_witch___complete_by_emeraldfury/105-852276/)

[Hound55]

One on one I'll actually say Scarlet Witch.

I think Polaris is far more valuable on a team, because her major power can be put to better use that way.

But luck's a much bigger factor in one on one because she's just focusing that jinx on one person not getting her.

As much as I think Polaris is better and more powerful, one on one... well... luck be a lady tonight.

[TheCorpulent1]

The Scarlet Witch, regardless of which power set she has.

[Sparta*]

gotta go with Wanda here, her powers are too versatile.

[CanaryFan]

Gotta ask where? If Wanda's worried about civilians and collateral damage due to her control issues then Ploaris would take this but if they fight where Wanda can cut loose with out worry then she takes it.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

They're fighting in an abandoned mill with no one around for acres.

[Silicon Surfer]

Polaris easily, classic Wanda was very weak. Polaris on the other hand even before fully mastering her powers one-shotted a whole group of bikers.

[CanaryFan]

Umm No. She was considered to be the most powerful member of the Brotherhood by both Magneto and the X-Men. When she joined the Avengers she became concerned about the unpredictable nature of her powers and showed lack of confidence using them in many situations and tried hard to keep them on a small scale when she did but she was never weak. Weak people don't wipe the floor with Ultron after he's taken down Iron man, Wonder man, Captain America and a few other Avengers.


In an abandoned mill Wanda all the way.

[Silicon Surfer]

The most dangerous member of the Brotherhood was not Wanda but Mastermind according to Magneto. This is because he can cause you to waste your power fighting illusions until you are tired.

[TheCorpulent1]

I still don't think classic Wanda was "very weak" by any measure, unless you're going back to right after she was created. Her classic version lasted right up until Disassembled and grew to be pretty powerful with both her hex bolts and conventional magic.

[Genesis 1.0]

All around strange battle but I give the raw power an edge...

Polaris

[Silicon Surfer]

Offhand, aside from that one time she made Ultron malfunction, I can't think of a single opponent that she ever defeated on her own. That is why Pietro was always so overprotective. It's possible that there are a few minor victories here and there but I can't think of any. I can't even think of a single solo battle. She always fought as part of a group.

[3dman27]

wanda

[Hound55]

Offhand, aside from that one time she made Ultron malfunction, I can't think of a single opponent that she ever defeated on her own. That is why Pietro was always so overprotective. It's possible that there are a few minor victories here and there but I can't think of any. I can't even think of a single solo battle. She always fought as part of a group.
Exactly... personally I think her powers would suit better for solo battles, in part of a group she has to worry about too many things, which makes her far less effective considering how tenuous a grip she has over her power.

One on one, out in the middle of nowhere, where she can just cut loose and focus it all on Polaris... forgettabouttit...

[Anubis]

Polaris

[WolfCypher]

Scarlet Witch.

While this belief may be counter/argued, I always believe that Magic-Users trump non-Magic-Users, especially if the Magic User's a Mutant, too.

[Anubis]

She's no magic user. Chaos magic doesn't exsist. (f**kin' Bendis)

[Silicon Surfer]

She's no magic user. Chaos magic doesn't exsist. (f**kin' Bendis)

Actually she has wielded magic for decades. Chthon gave her magic potential so that he could use her as a surreptitious tool. Her magic powers were always minor though. She was trained by Agatha Harkness. But you are otherwise right, Chaos magic came into existence just in time for that one storyline and hopefully will fade back into non-existence soon.

[Johnny Blaze]

Scarlet Witch gets my vote.

She's no magic user. Chaos magic doesn't exsist. (f**kin' Bendis)

Why did you have to bring that up? It took me forever to suppress that memory. Now I have to do it all over again. :cmad: :csad:

[Anubis]

Actually she has wielded magic for decades. Chthon gave her magic potential so that he could use her as a surreptitious tool. Her magic powers were always minor though. She was trained by Agatha Harkness. But you are otherwise right, Chaos magic came into existence just in time for that one storyline and hopefully will fade back into non-existence soon.


Nope, Agatha's been dead for years. All of what you just said is just a bunch of crazy that Wanda pulled out of her ass. So says Bendis. :o

[Silicon Surfer]

The Avengers took on Chthon when he took over Wanda on Wundagore Mountain.

[Anubis]

They also just took on Chthon in Mighty Avengers and Slott kinda sorta fixed Bendis' bulls**t.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

7-3 Wanda so far

[Majic Walrus]

I agree with Hound55. In a one-on-one Wanda unleashes and destroys Polaris.

[TheCorpulent1]

They also just took on Chthon in Mighty Avengers and Slott kinda sorta fixed Bendis' bulls**t.
That was great. Chthon: "lulz, I totally fooled you guys into thinking chaos magic didn't exist! I'm awesome."

[jmc247]

If we are talking about 2003 pre-Bendis before she was turned into a top tier cosmic reality warper that can just think about it and alter the entire universe then we actually have a battle.

Both Lorna and Wanda's powers are directly related to their emotions. The more emotional one is the far more dangerous that one is. The one that is the most emotional and willing to use force would be the most likely to win. But, for the sake of the debate I believe pre-Bendis Wanda would lose to post-Magneto trained Polaris 8 fights out of 10.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/Austen/fight.jpg

[Johnny Blaze]

That was great. Chthon: "lulz, I totally fooled you guys into thinking chaos magic didn't exist! I'm awesome."

...Please tell me that's how it actually went down.

[Anubis]

Yup, he totally said "Lulz".

[Johnny Blaze]

...

I love Dan Slott. He's my hero. He's everything I would like to be. :o :csad:

[Anubis]

Fat, bald, and two bad storyarcs away from being hated like Bendis?

[TheCorpulent1]

Balding. :oldrazz:

[Anubis]

I stand corrected. :o

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I'm going with Wanda. She is one of the most powerful mutants around when unrestrained and no matter what your power is she can make it back fire on you. Add even the most rudamentary sorcery knowledge to that and that's an awesome combination.

Scarlet Witch takes it 9-4

[The_Mighty_Thor]

WOLVERINE

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/31499/890346-wolverine_blue_01_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/wolverine_blue_01/105-890346/)

VS

DEADPOOL

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/378/79000-149-deadpool_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/149-deadpool/105-79000/)

[TheCorpulent1]

Could go either way, but I'll say Deadpool. If he's really focused on killing someone, odds are he'll get the job done.

[Anubis]

Dp is the best there is at whatever it is that Wolverine does.

[Johnny Blaze]

Fat, bald, and two bad storyarcs away from being hated like Bendis?

Really? Haven't read comics for a couple years, so I'm out of the loop. Last stuff from him I read was the GLA and Spidey/Human Torch.
What has he done to almost-put himself in the same category as that douche***, Bendis? :huh:

[Sparta*]

Wolverine, he could cut wade to pieces which is pretty much the only way to stop him lol wade couldn't do the same to wolverine

[Anubis]

Really? Haven't read comics for a couple years, so I'm out of the loop. Last stuff from him I read was the GLA and Spidey/Human Torch.
What has he done to almost-put himself in the same category as that douche***, Bendis? :huh:

Every writer is two storyarcs away from being hated by a small minority of internet fanboys.

[Anubis]

Wolverine, he could cut wade to pieces which is pretty much the only way to stop him lol wade couldn't do the same to wolverine


He could, however, blast his nuts off with a shot gun, then park a steamroller on his legs.

[Ace of Knaves]

They've had some good fights in the past. But I've always noticed that Wade usually get's the first "killing" blow in. But obviously it ain't as simple as that.

But I think in the end Wade wouldn't even need to take Wolverine on hand to hand or...claw to sword. He would just fire a RPG at his face or something. And Wade isn't as stupid as some people think, I reckon he could out wit Wolverine too. Well, he did in the run in Wolverine Origins. Ran rings round Logan.

Deadpool.

[TheCorpulent1]

Every writer is two storyarcs away from being hated by a small minority of internet fanboys.
Plus, he's actually writing popular comics now. People are far less forgiving with those for some reason.

[Anubis]

Already there are people not liking some of the things he's done. Some people didn't like that whole Hank Pym/Reed Richards thing. Personally? I thought it was cool. Not everyday somebody says "It's on B***h." to Reed Richards. That was just awesome.

[TheCorpulent1]

I thought they were extraordinarily quick to anger for no apparent reason, myself.

[Hound55]

They've had some good fights in the past. But I've always noticed that Wade usually get's the first "killing" blow in. But obviously it ain't as simple as that.

But I think in the end Wade wouldn't even need to take Wolverine on hand to hand or...claw to sword. He would just fire a RPG at his face or something. And Wade isn't as stupid as some people think, I reckon he could out wit Wolverine too. Well, he did in the run in Wolverine Origins. Ran rings round Logan.

Deadpool.
Its not so much that he's stupid as it is that he's a crazy somb*tch...

Deadpool's as likely to outwit Logan as he is to get decapitated because he was too busy hallucinating that he's in Die Hard, heh.

[Ace of Knaves]

Well yea, it would be a pretty unpredictable fight really. But I think if Wade is in a serious mood and not messing around or losing his marbles he could take Logan quite comfortably in the end.

[TheCorpulent1]

He's definitely got a range advantage.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

3-1 wade

[Johnny Blaze]

It's a coin flip for me, so you can give my vote to heads. Uh, I mean Wolverine. :o

[CanaryFan]

From the fights I've seen Wade is way more skilled than Logan and usual kicks his ass in his halfassed manner until Logan finally gets lucky so I have to agree with a few others here that if Wade ever took him serious he would probably win, however without some special stipulation(and there aren't any) I don't see why Wade would take this fight more serious than any of their others.

Logan(:csad:)

[Silicon Surfer]

Wade

[Genesis 1.0]

Close, bloody, healing facor heavy battle. I mean, anything less than a missing limb won't matter to either of these guys. As to the 'blow Logan's nuts off' nobody does beserker rage beter than Logan. He wouldn't give a damn, he's going to get MAD and get EVEN.

Wolverine

[Anubis]

You sound like a Hulk Fanboy.

[Genesis 1.0]

You sound like a Hulk Fanboy.

THAT, Sir, is like a dropkick in the nads.:o

Don't hate because I'm making sense.

[Anubis]

Doesn't sounding like a Hulk fanboy mean you aren't making sense?

[Genesis 1.0]

Doesn't sounding like a Hulk fanboy mean you aren't making sense?

It's usually the tool making the accusations that fit the bill.:o

[Anubis]

Well you're the one talking about Wolverine wins because he can get all maaaaaad.

[Genesis 1.0]

Well you're the one talking about Wolverine wins because he can get all maaaaaad.

When being a beserker is apart of your skill set, when it's intricate to your mythos: YES.:o

[Anubis]

And yet, such a state can easily be used against him. Example, Wolvie chases DP to a cliff, wolverine lunges, DP teleports behind him, off the cliff wolvie goes. DP wins. Probably goes "Meep! Meep!" as he walks away.

[Genesis 1.0]

And yet, such a state can easily be used against him. Example, Wolvie chases DP to a cliff, wolverine lunges, DP teleports behind him, off the cliff wolvie goes. DP wins. Probably goes "Meep! Meep!" as he walks away.

-First, it's rarely used.

-Second, it's just as likely his ass will be the one tumbling down the cliff or spearing himself on a outcropping or transporting himself 6 feet underground.....

Alot of good a malfunctioning teleporting device does you....

-Third, so you admit I was right about the logic behind the beserker.:o

[Anubis]

No, I just think that it's seldom used these days, and therefore ultimately irrelevant, if he does somehow go Berserker it can be used against him, and you bringing it up only makes DP's chances greater.

[Genesis 1.0]

No, I just think that it's seldom used these days, and therefore ultimately irrelevant, if he does somehow go Berserker it can be used against him, and you bringing it up only makes DP's chances greater.

Wait..

On another thread you use a theory that's not even RARE, but NEVER used, to justify a GL having unlimited telepathy and on this thread you say if it's rare it's irrelevant when it suits a leaky argument?:huh:

Hypocritical much?:o

And if we're eliminating rarely used tactics, you just threw your teleporting deal out the f'n window.:o

Regardless, a guy with a monstrous healing factor + Beserker Rage = Asswhipping

[Anubis]

In the other thread, we're talking hypothetical abilities of a hypothetical superhero combination. In such matters, all bets are off. We aren't' even talking about who would win. We are talking about what a GL can actually do. Also, your math is a bit off. Maybe you should change your major to Liberal arts.

[Silicon Surfer]

Wait..

On another thread you use a theory that's not even RARE, but NEVER used, to justify a GL having unlimited telepathy and on this thread you say if it's rare it's irrelevant when it suits a leaky argument?:huh:

Hypocritical much?:o

And if we're eliminating rarely used tactics, you just threw your teleporting deal out the f'n window.:o

Regardless, a guy with a monstrous healing factor + Beserker Rage = Asswhipping

You're right it does = asswhipping. It means that Wolverine will get an asswhipping the likes of which few can even aspire to. Long after anybody else would surrender or at least die, Wolverine's asswhipping will continue. :)

[Genesis 1.0]

In the other thread, we're talking hypothetical abilities of a hypothetical superhero combination. In such matters, all bets are off. We aren't' even talking about who would win. We are talking about what a GL can actually do. Also, your math is a bit off. Maybe you should change your major to Liberal arts.

What they can do according to who? You?:hehe:

Alright, everyone clear out. Anubis says it's over. Go home. Beat it. Nothing to see here.:o

You're right it does = asswhipping. It means that Wolverine will get an asswhipping the likes of which few can even aspire to. Long after anybody else would surrender or at least die, Wolverine's asswhipping will continue. :)

So.....do you get breaks or is being Anubis' echo a 24 hour position?:o

[Silicon Surfer]

You gave me such a good opening it seemed like a crime to pass it up.

[Ace of Knaves]

I could see Logan going all berserker and Deadpool just dodging him and taking the piss out of him for a while.

And anyway Deadpool has beat Logan whilst he is "raging" before. Sure Wade also passed out from blood loss, but he put a bullet underneath Logan's jaw straight up into his brain pan first.

[Majic Walrus]

Close, bloody, healing facor heavy battle. I mean, anything less than a missing limb won't matter to either of these guys. As to the 'blow Logan's nuts off' nobody does beserker rage beter than Logan. He wouldn't give a damn, he's going to get MAD and get EVEN.

Wolverine

Wrong. Missing limbs will only affect Logan. I don't recall ever seeing him regenerate a limb or reattach his head. Add to that that Wade uses a variety of extra tools like long range weapons, explosives made to look like chairs, and bat**** insanity.

Wade wins. Probably won't kill Wolverine, but he'll win.

[Genesis 1.0]

Wrong. Missing limbs will only affect Logan. I don't recall ever seeing him regenerate a limb or reattach his head. Add to that that Wade uses a variety of extra tools like long range weapons, explosives made to look like chairs, and bat**** insanity.

Wade wins. Probably won't kill Wolverine, but he'll win.

I see you're still waiting on Tape 2 from Hooked on Phonics....:o

Deadpool's been hurt before and by less than a missng limb, it's been expressed before numerous times. Simply because he doesn't lose doesn't mean they don't make it clear he isn't hurt.

Dumbassery fits ya buddy.:cwink:

[Hound55]

I wouldn't make a pick... anything could happen with Deadpool.

Dude is the Ron Artest of the Marvel universe...

[Genesis 1.0]

More like Vasaline eating Stephon Marbury....

[Johnny Blaze]

Poor Starbury. Seems like it was yesterday he was a superstar. Now he's nothing but a washed up, sideshow wackjob. :o

[Genesis 1.0]

Well at least he's managed to bring 3 NBA fans together in ridicule.

Best thing he's done in years.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I'd go with Deadpool. That brings the total to 6-4 in his favor.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

SERSI

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/25705/582831-05815547774.373_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/05815547774/105-582831/)

VS

THE ENCHANTRESS

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/36894/799490-enchantress2_large.gif (http://www.comicvine.com/enchantress2/105-799490/)

[Genesis 1.0]

Enchantress is more powerful but Sersi's more combat oriented and not that far behind in power. Echantress just isn't a head-on fighter type.

Sersi

[Johnny Blaze]

Though I like Amora more, I have to give it to Sersi.

[Johnny Drama]

Sersi

[Wilderbeast]

Sersi

[Silicon Surfer]

Amora easily. Far more powerful and she comes from a warrior culture while Sersi is more of a hedonistic party girl.

[Anubis]

Sersi

[Genesis 1.0]

Amora easily. Far more powerful and she comes from a warrior culture while Sersi is more of a hedonistic party girl.

1.) Nothing easy about this.

2.) Enchantress is more powerful, I already said that but not far more powerful.

3.) Loki's from a warrior culture and he's definitely no warrior in the sense the rest are. Simply being from a culture doesn't mean you fit the bill.:o

[Hound55]

Sirce. As you mentioned she's more suited for combat in terms of power and the fight itself hasn't mentioned anyone around for Amora to control to fight her fight for her...

[Silicon Surfer]

Amora is twice as strong as Sersi. 25 ton strength as opposed to twelve ton strength and has magic strong enough to hold her own against Karnilla. Karnilla's magic was said to be second only to Odin's. Since at about the same time Loki backed down from a battle with Karnilla this would seem to place Amora as above Loki in power (or at least more courageous).

[Genesis 1.0]

This X > Y > W argument based on a rare one-shot show of power is bogus. Alot of guys are said to be next to only _____ person until they get dusted by someone who's obviously not on that level i.e. Enchantress / Odin.

Fact of the matter is that she's just NOT a head-on battle type, neither is Loki. Loki's magic is greater than Thor's and easily Herc's brute muscle, but I'd take a gamble on either opponent beating him in a FIGHT because that's just outside Loki's comfort zone.

He, like Enchantress, is a string puller, not a fighter.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Amora is twice as strong as Sersi. 25 ton strength as opposed to twelve ton strength

Sersi is at the 20 ton strength level not 12 and she can use her other powers to augment her strength. She was strong enough to beat the living s**t out of Hercules in the Avengers.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'll go with the Enchantress. Sersi's proven to have difficulties using her matter manipulation on cosmic- or magic-powered beings, and the Enchantress is the latter. The Enchantress is also a bit more well-rounded since magic has all kinds of applications and she's one of Asgard's top practitioners. Sersi tends to fight more, but that doesn't mean Amora can't fight well when she has to.

[Silicon Surfer]

Sersi is at the 20 ton strength level not 12 and she can use her other powers to augment her strength. She was strong enough to beat the living s**t out of Hercules in the Avengers.

Descriptions of Eternals powers have stated that they can use levitation to enhance their lifting ability but I have never seen it said that they can enhance their actual strength. They basically use the same anti gravity power that they use to fly to add to lifting strength. As for beating Hercules that is ridiculous. Even Ikaris, one of the strongest of the Eternals has never been portrayed as being that strong. I haven't seen the story but it would seem to be a case of the writer not knowing or not caring what powers Eternals and Sersi in particular actually possess.

[[A]]

Amora, the Enchantress.

[3dman27]

enchantress

[Silicon Surfer]

This X > Y > W argument based on a rare one-shot show of power is bogus. Alot of guys are said to be next to only _____ person until they get dusted by someone who's obviously not on that level i.e. Enchantress / Odin.

Fact of the matter is that she's just NOT a head-on battle type, neither is Loki. Loki's magic is greater than Thor's and easily Herc's brute muscle, but I'd take a gamble on either opponent beating him in a FIGHT because that's just outside Loki's comfort zone.

He, like Enchantress, is a string puller, not a fighter.

That battle was not Amora's only display of significant power. It was Amora who created the Bloodaxe.

[Supertompa]

My vote goes to Sersi just translate THE ENCHANTRESS to a pig xD

[Mazrim Taim]

Sersi

[Sparta*]

Amora

[CanaryFan]

Wow tough choice. I guess I'll go with Enchantress.

[Majic Walrus]

Enchantress for me too.

[Genesis 1.0]

My vote goes to Sersi just translate THE ENCHANTRESS to a pig xD

Transmute?

Transform?

:o

[Anubis]

Ha! Translate.

[Supertompa]

Transmute?

Transform?

:o

Yeah Yeah my english suxs ^^

[Ahura Mazda]

I have to go with Sersi on this one

[Genesis 1.0]

I just don't think Enchantress is tough enough to deal with Sersi. I just don't.

[greenrage36]

After going through the above discussions, I agree with the Enchantress not being completely comfortable in a straight-up, head-on scrap..I think she's the more powerful of the two, and if she had even a slight amount of prep time, she'd take this easily...but in a rock-em, sock-em..fight..I'll go with Sersi

:bh:

[Vengeance]

Sersi

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I'm gonna go with Sersi just barely. That brings the total to 12-8 for Sersi.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

MORG

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/78686-25600-morg_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/25600-morg/105-78686/)

VS

GLADIATOR

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18627/782279-gladiator__kallark__007_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/gladiator__kallark__007/105-782279/)

[TheCorpulent1]

Morg. Gladiator's tough but not quite up there in Morg's league.

[Sparta*]

Ill go with Morg here

[3dman27]

gladiator

[Silicon Surfer]

Gladiator, far too strong and fast.

[Anubis]

Morg

[Genesis 1.0]

Morg's an order of magnitude above Gladiator.

Morg

[Silicon Surfer]

Gladiator's an order of magnitude above Morg.



fixed

[Johnny Blaze]

Morg

[greenrage36]

I gotta go with Morg on this...he, being one of the top heralds of Galactus would really take the fight to Gladiator and I think would beat his Mohawk-headed a** more times than not.

However, this has potential to be a sweet fight..especially if ol' Glads has his much vaunted (and in this fight - much needed) confidence up...

[Silicon Surfer]

When the Starjammers attempted to rescue Lilandra Gladiator intervened and left a huge dent in Cap's shield with one punch. Somehow I don't think that Morg's head is as durable as Cap's shield and even if it is it will have a similar sized dent in it. Gladiator also can and does speed blitz and is fast enough to attack at speeds that Morg cannot even perceive.

[Majic Walrus]

Morg is the most powerful herald right?

Morg wins.

[Silicon Surfer]

Without the Water of Life Morg is second in power to the Silver Surfer.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

7-2 Morg so far.

[Genesis 1.0]

Are you seriously comparing Cap's shield to the Durability of arguably the most powerful Herald of Galactus? The Planet Splitter?

Really?

Now that's just sad.

[greenrage36]

Are you seriously comparing Cap's shield to the Durability of arguably the most powerful Herald of Galactus? The Planet Splitter?

Really?

Now that's just sad.

lol

[Silicon Surfer]

Are you seriously comparing Cap's shield to the Durability of arguably the most powerful Herald of Galactus? The Planet Splitter?

Really?

Now that's just sad.

You would actually argue that the herald who got himself croaked faster than any other herald ever compares in durability to the most legendary item in the history of the MU.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Morg Wins 7-2

[The_Mighty_Thor]

THE LIVING LIGHTNING

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/148156-127025-living-lightning_large.JPG (http://www.comicvine.com/127025-living-lightning/105-148156/)

VS

STORM

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11768/459724-xwa001cov_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/xwa001cov/105-459724/)

[TheCorpulent1]

Hmm, interesting. I'm gonna go ahead and say the Living Lightning would still be in control of himself in spite of Storm's powers. Outside of throwing some harsh weather at the Living Lightning, which should be nothing to him in lightning form, Storm can't really do much against him. So I'll go with the Living Lightning.

[Anubis]

Is he immune to lightning bolts? If so, then there really isn't anything she could do to him. I mean, you can't exactly freeze light. You can't blow light away either. She's got all these weapons and not a damn thing that could actually hurt the guy. I'll go with Latin Lightning as well.

[TheCorpulent1]

Dude turns into lightning. I imagine he'd be immune to lightning as a result. Wikipedia notes that he's "impervious to most physical and energy attacks," too.

[Anubis]

Well then I'd like to see somebodies bulls**t excuse for voting Storm this time. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

She might catch him off-guard in his human form, I guess. I can't imagine why he would turn back in the middle of a fight, but it's not totally incontheivable.

[Silicon Surfer]

Living Lightning

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Well then I'd like to see somebodies bulls**t excuse for voting Storm this time. :o


Ummm because she's an x-man. They always come out on top:hehe:


3 to zip LL so far

[Genesis 1.0]

Lopsided match, there's no way Storm could damage him in his primary form.

Living Lightning

[3dman27]

living lightning

[Majic Walrus]

Ditto. Living Lightning.

[greenrage36]

Wait..wait...couldn't Storm make some kind of an ice shield that could reflect him back to earth and use a lightning bolt to..oh wait...

..couldn't she make a huge gust of wind to confuse him and possibly take him out of the sky while in his lightning form...oh..oops..that ain't gonna work....

ahh F*** it....Living Lightning for the win...I don't see how Storm could win this...lol.

[CanaryFan]

The only issue here is if Storm could control him in his lightning form and since they haven't fought that I know of and he's sentient in his lightning form I'm going to assume she can't so Storm gets fried.

Living Lightning.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Yeah lightning boy wins this for me to so he takes the match 9 zip.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

RAGE

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/191721-89903-rage_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/89903-rage/105-191721/)

VS

STRONG GUY

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/10390/382664-152034-strong-guy_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/152034-strong-guy/105-382664/)

[Ahura Mazda]

Hmm I think Strong Guy just because Rage does not have the strength to cause Strong Guy to overload. It took WWH for that.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, Strong Guy seems like the logical winner, even if Rage starts off a bit stronger (right? I think so).

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Yes rage is class 100.

[TheCorpulent1]

Really? He doesn't seem that strong in... um, any of his appearances that I can recall.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Old school New Warriors. Although I slightly missrepresented. He has a base level of 75 tons but he has the Hulk like ability to go up to and beyond 100 ton when enraged.

http://www.comicvine.com/rage/29-2097/

[CanaryFan]

Rage takes this with ease. Guido can only store the kinetic energy that gives him his strength for 90 seconds. He can go toe to toe with just about anyone for that long but afterwards he's screwed.

[Silicon Surfer]

Rage. I believe that at one point they gave Guido an upper limit of 70 ton strength.

[Genesis 1.0]

Close one, but time is the ultimate equalizer.

Rage

[greenrage36]

I could see this going 50/50...Guido could certainly match him strength-wise for a little while to get some wins..and I could also see Rage getting PO'd enough to overpower Guido sometimes too...I think it would depend on who fought the smarter battle..mmm..I'll go Strong Guy I guess...

[Anubis]

Rage

[WolfCypher]

Rage

[3dman27]

rage

[Hound55]

Rage takes this with ease. Guido can only store the kinetic energy that gives him his strength for 90 seconds. He can go toe to toe with just about anyone for that long but afterwards he's screwed.

Close one, but time is the ultimate equalizer.

Rage
Yup...

[The_Mighty_Thor]

7-3 Rage so far.

[Majic Walrus]

I go with Rage as well.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I also think Rage would take this.

Rage wins 9-3

[The_Mighty_Thor]

PSYLOCKE

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33806/919695-84_psylocke_1_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/84_psylocke_1/105-919695/)

VS

SHADOWCAT

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3133/109454-16100-kitty-pryde_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/16100-kitty-pryde/105-109454/)

[Harlekin]

Psylocke