The Marvel Heroes Battle Thread

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Since the last thread ended and nobody ever started a new one here goes!

First up

THOR

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/Thor09.jpg

VS

SENTRY

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/Sentry02.jpg

[GlasgowBat]

thor.

i hate sentry, but this is one of the few i think he'd lose.

[CanaryFan]

Thor!

[Anubis]

Thor

Sentry is only ever worth a damn on days that don't end with the letter Y.

[Silicon Surfer]

Thor

[Genesis 1.0]

BAH! BAH I say!

Sentry

[Majic Walrus]

Thor Thor Thor!

[WolfCypher]

Thor, although I'm tired to death of the fanbase's belief that Thor can never, ever lose and any defeat he suffers is blasphemous. For that reason alone I should vote Sentry just to rattle some folk, but I'm not too fond of Sentry.

The I-love-to-hate-Sentry hatedom for Sentry is just as annoying as the fanworship "can do no wrong" fandom of Thor, but at least Thor has amounted to something while Sentry...eh...Just give Thor his victory already.

[Faded To Deaf]

The Sentry. When he actually tries. This is a fight, not who won't run away first.

[Genesis 1.0]

Exactly. Sentry would walk away from this with the win, no matter what the Sentry Counter Culture says.

[TheCorpulent1]

Thor, although I'm tired to death of the fanbase's belief that Thor can never, ever lose and any defeat he suffers is blasphemous. For that reason alone I should vote Sentry just to rattle some folk, but I'm not too fond of Sentry.

The I-love-to-hate-Sentry hatedom for Sentry is just as annoying as the fanworship "can do no wrong" fandom of Thor, but at least Thor has amounted to something while Sentry...eh...Just give Thor his victory already.
Where are you seeing these people who think any loss Thor incurs is blasphemy? :huh: That generally only happens with characters who actually win almost all the time anyway--the Hulk, Wolverine, Spider-Man, Batman, etc. Thor gets his ass kicked every other day. Both of the really major fights he's gotten into in his current series (the Destroyer and Bor) have nearly killed him before he managed to barely pull out a win. In fact, while Thor, being the most powerful god of the most powerful pantheon on Marvel's Earth, should kick most other characters' asses with ease, he very rarely ever does.

But he'd totally kick the Sentry's whiny ass. :)

[Genesis 1.0]

Meh, no one and I mean NO ONE loses more fights than he should win than Sentry. Underwritten? Badly potrayed? Underwhelmed? Should demolish 99% of the guys he comes into contact with including THOR?

S-E-N-T-R-Y

Sounds like it's the THOR fanbase that's whiny.

[TheCorpulent1]

The Sentry actually has a reason for sucking, though. It's part of his character. He's got more neuroses than a grown-up child actor. People just put on blinders to how utterly f***ing ridiculous the character has become under Bendis because of how good Jenkins' initial mini-series was. Yes, the Sentry can be good. But let's face it: those days are done because Bendis has his claws in him and he ain't letting go.

[WolfCypher]

Where are you seeing these people who think any loss Thor incurs is blasphemy? :huh:

Just about any site that engages in comic debating. This isn't a recent thing for me. I've been seeing it over the years. Hell, this site, SHH itself is my main example.

[TheCorpulent1]

Eh, maybe it's drowned out by the legions of Hulk and Batman fanboys in practically every comic debate I see on here.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Thor wins 7-2




Next up

HERCULES

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/Hercules06.jpg

VS

NAMOR

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/SubMariner01.jpg

[The_Mighty_Thor]

By the way since us regular posters can't edit thread titles if any mods want to fix the typos in the title:up:

[Ahura Mazda]

Is this match near a body of water or on land?

It makes a significant impact.

On land, herc; in the water, Namor

[The_Mighty_Thor]

On the shoreline. So on land but near water where Namor can stay fresh and possibly force the fight into the water.

[Faded To Deaf]

Namor The Submariner.

[CanaryFan]

Namor

[Silicon Surfer]

Namor

[Sparta*]

Namor

[Anubis]

Herc. Even if he's close enough to water for a good power boost. I think Herc could still take him in the end. Hell of a fight though. Hell of a fight.

[Silicon Surfer]

You gotta remember that every time Namor gets wet he heals all injury and fatigue.

[Anubis]

Then Herc's best bet is to keep his ass away from the water. He could put him in some kinda ancient Greek hold and keep him stuck on the beach for hours. He'd call it the Glory Hold. That was an ancient Greek wrestling gay joke.

[Silicon Surfer]

Grappling would be a bad idea. Namor could just fly them both into the water. Then it would be over for Herc.

[Anubis]

not if he rips his cute little wings off first.

[Silicon Surfer]

I don't theink it would be that easy to do that to someone who is something like 6-0 against the Hulk.

[Anubis]

And yet, some random ass atlantean soldier managed to do it. Go figure. I guess you could chalk it up to good ole artistic bulls**t.....much like namor's supposed 6-0 run against the hulk.

[3dman27]

hercules, prince of power

[Majic Walrus]

On the shoreline. So on land but near water where Namor can stay fresh and possibly force the fight into the water.

Namor wins, Herc goes to the drink.

[SuperFerret]

Namor wins, Herc goes to the drink.

That's happening no matter who wins, but this close to the water, Herc would be hard pressed to beat Namor.

Foot Wings wins.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I'm going to throw in a vote for Herc so Namor is leading 6-3.

[Mercy]

Great idea! Namor

[Chris Wallace]

Herc.

[Genesis 1.0]

Herc, even with the slanted stip. He's stronger AND he's a better fighter.

Hercules

[TheCorpulent1]

Namor. They're roughly equal in strength and Namor has several other powers on top of that. Herc may be the better fighter, but so long as Namor fights smart, he could take Herc.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Hercules takes it 8-5



SPIDER-WOMAN

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/SpiderWoman_I_06.jpg

VS

SHE-HULK

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/SheHulk05.jpg

[WolfCypher]

I'll wait to vote. See, I want to vote for Spider-Woman, but I don't know if its because I think she could win, or if its pure bias on my part.

[SuperFerret]

She-Hulk

[Sparta*]

She-Hulk

[CanaryFan]

Jessica, she's got the speed, agility, flight and venom blasts. And she could probably take a few shots from She Hulk who would be lucky to lay a finger on her once.

[3dman27]

spider woman

[Silicon Surfer]

Spider Woman

[Mercy]

Jessica

[WolfCypher]

I've decided...

Spider-Woman.

[Chris Wallace]

Jenny!

[Anubis]

She Hulk

[Majic Walrus]

This battle will be won by speed and agility. Spider Woman takes it.

[Anubis]

Bulls**t. She might have the speed and agility, but she doesn't have enough strength to take big panties down.

[Chris Wallace]

Bulls**t. She might have the speed and agility, but she doesn't have enough strength to take big panties down.

Seconded. Plus, I don't think her venom blasts will do more than annoy Jenny.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Gotta disagree there. She Hulk doesn't have limitless energy like Hulk. She can be tired out or worn down and then taken out by anyone who can avoid being laid out by her first.

[Chris Wallace]

True. I just don't think Jessica's a member of that club.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm gonna go with She-Hulk.

[Anubis]

You see? Corpy knows the deal.

Just because her name is Spider-Woman, doesn't mean she's anything like Spider-Man. If she can kick the crap outta Iron man, she can kick the crap outta Spider-Woman.

[Genesis 1.0]

Meh, She-Hulk will run out of gas sooner rather than later attempting to keep up with Jessica, and like Hulk, she gets frustrated fighting people she can't hit. Jessica's got mountains of experience fighting guys that are stronger than her.

With that kind of speed, she'll nail quite a few precision Venom Blasts and this one will be over.

Spider-Woman

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Spider Woman wins 8-5


Next up

THE INVADERS

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/15960-2765-17781-1-invaders-the_sup.jpg

VS

THE CHAMPIONS

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/Champions01.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

Wow, this is a tough one...

[K4tzm4n]

Question, who can harm Ghost Rider in that bout?

[TheCorpulent1]

Namor and Spitfire could probably incapacitate him. Being basically unkillable doesn't necessarily make you unstoppable.

[Mercy]

Champions

[CanaryFan]

The Invaders

[TheCorpulent1]

I've decided to go with the Invaders. Better leadership and no obvious handicap (*cough*Angel*cough*) puts the fight slightly in their favor. Plus, they're gonna be plucked right off of a WWII battlefield, so they're not pulling punches the way modern-day superheroes might. But it'd still be a tough win.

[Sparta*]

Invaders

[3dman27]

The invaders

[Silicon Surfer]

The Champions fairly easily. They have the advantage of knowing all their opponents while being unknown themselves. All of the Champions are capable tacticians and the Widow is at least as good as Cap and probably better. If Hercules takes on Namor then their is no one on the Invaders who can even annoy Ghost Rider. On his motorcycle he is several times as fast as Spitfire and nearly invulnerable as well. A single blast of Hellfire should take out anyone on the Invaders except possibly the Torch.

[SuperFerret]

Champions. They've got more heavy-hitters in terms of powers, and they also have the experience factor if the Invaders are ripped straight out of WWII.

[WolfCypher]

The Champions. I couldn't decide. Took me a few hours.

[Anubis]

Invaders. They seem like they would work better together than the Champions would. That would make all the difference.

[Anubis]

double trouble

[Vanguard07]

Champions easilly. Far more power, far more knowledge of their opponents.

[Silicon Surfer]

Ghost Rider could probably solo the Invaders since 4 of the 5 members of the team can't hurt him at all.

[Majic Walrus]

The Invaders have more skill. What the lack in overall knowledge and brute force they make up for in on-the-fly tactics and resourcefulness.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

6-5 Invaders right now.

[Ahura Mazda]

After thinking about this, I have to go with the Champions because realy they do not have much of ananswer against the raw power of guys like Herc and Ghost Rider, not to mention Bobby who has omega level status.

[Silicon Surfer]

Remember that the versions of Cap and Namor in the Invaders are far less knowledgeable and experienced than their modern counterparts. They have not encountered anywhere near the number of superhumans. Namor is much younger and may not yet be in the class 100 range. He has probably never encountered anyone who is truly his equal in strength. Strong yes, equal probably not.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Namor fought with Thor in the Invaders at least once. I doubt if his strength is in question.

Also if you are going to compare characters during the periods when they were with those teams neither GR or Drake were as powerful or knew how to use their powers as well as they currently do.

[TheCorpulent1]

True. Johnny Blaze didn't even have the Penance Stare until his recent return as GR. The Penance Stare started with Dan Ketch.

[Faded To Deaf]

Though I prefer the Invaders more, I don't see them winning against the Champions, they just have too much power.

[Genesis 1.0]

I'd don't know, the Invaders at that stage really aren't as seasoned as they'd seem on paper, and that's their main Ace in a fight against that type of raw power.

The Champions

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I'm going with the Invaders. Iceman and Ghost Rider weren't that powerful back then. The original Torch could keep GR occupied, Same with Namor keeping Herc busy. Cap would make short work of Angel and Union Jack would do the same to Widow. I would bet on Spitfire over Iceman back in those days but even if you favor Drake there is no way he would take her out before Cap and Jack finished their opponants and came to her aid. When the numbers start increasing against GR and herc they would eventually go down.

Champions win 8-7

[The_Mighty_Thor]

INVISIBLE WOMAN-SUE STORM

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/InvisibleWoman06.jpg

VS

MARVEL GIRL-JEAN GREY (PRE PHOENIX FORCE)

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/MarvelGirl_I_01.jpg

[Anubis]

Sue assuming that's Ultimate Sue.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

The match was a request but I'm assuming he wanted regular Sue.

[Sparta*]

So this is full out experienced Sue but rookie Jean?? if that is the case Sue with ease

[Anubis]

Yeah a bit one-sided. A closer match would be back when sue was the Invisible Girl. Both of them were pretty useless back then.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

OK, lets say they both have 2 years experience with their powers.

[GlasgowBat]

sue storm.

jean always had trouble controlling her powers pre-pheonix force, so what chance does she have against an opponent with a more varied power range?

[Faded To Deaf]

Jean Grey, I always have this feeling, being able to affect even a small amount of the mind, can do major damage.

[Mercy]

Jean

[3dman27]

Susie

[Silicon Surfer]

Telepathy has been shown to be able to penetrate Sue's force field in the past so Jean ftw. One of the early abilities they used to refer to was her ability to "will a person to be defeated". Invisibility is useless against a telepath as well. Telepathy can be used to read Sue's mind and anticipate her attacks.

[TheCorpulent1]

I gotta go with Jean. Telepathy, even mid-level telepathy without much finesse, is a devastating power against anyone who doesn't have some kind of resistance. Add to that the fact that Sue's powers are all based on concentrating to mentally create her invisible constructs and Jean seems to have this in the bag.

[WolfCypher]

I want to see how this'll end. I'll ride the fence.

[CanaryFan]

I think it depends on how the fight starts. If Sue attacked all out right off the bat she could win. Say if she made an invisible bubble inside Jeans head and then expanded it until her head popped, even if jean read her mind it would be too late to stop her. Like wise if Jean took her out right away Sue couldn't do much about it. Neither are likely to start out that way right off the bat though. This could go either way but I'll vote for Sue.

[TheCorpulent1]

I think it depends on how the fight starts. If Sue attacked all out right off the bat she could win. Say if she made an invisible bubble inside Jeans head and then expanded it until her head popped, even if jean read her mind it would be too late to stop her. Like wise if Jean took her out right away Sue couldn't do much about it. Neither are likely to start out that way right off the bat though. This could go either way but I'll vote for Sue.
(This isn't directed at you personally, CF, just in general.) This idea comes up in virtually every fight thread that the Invisible Woman is a part of and I'm flabbergasted every time. When would Sue Richards (or Sue Storm, according to the format of this match) ever do something like that?

[CanaryFan]

(This isn't directed at you personally, CF, just in general.) This idea comes up in virtually every fight thread that the Invisible Woman is a part of and I'm flabbergasted every time. When would Sue Richards (or Sue Storm, according to the format of this match) ever do something like that?

Just using it as a possible example. I think it comes up a lot cause it was one of her lines in the second movie.

[TheCorpulent1]

It has no practical application, though. It's entirely out of character for Sue to throw bubbles in people's brains and watch their heads explode, and I don't think she has the extremely fine-tuned control necessary to expand a bubble in someone's brain until the pressure makes them pass out. It's just a crazy scenario people come up with because Sue could theoretically do it and end the fight really quickly, but she never, ever would if we're factoring personality into the thing.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Like he said it's just one example of what she can do. She has put tight force fields around peoples head and suffocated them into unconsciousness. She has the potential to be the most powerful member of the FF, she has the potential to become Malice, and she discovered her powers through instinct, meaning she used them with out knowing she could when the need arose. If a telepath was attacking her mind she might instinctively lash out and do anything she is potentially capable of.

[Faded To Deaf]

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/MarvelGirl_I_01.jpg


Is that by Alex Ross? It seems a lot better than what I usually see in his girls.

[WolfCypher]

Say if she made an invisible bubble inside Jeans head and then expanded it until her head popped

Interestingly, Jean could create a psychic pulse within Sue's mind and blow her head off.

[Silicon Surfer]

It was quite a long time before Sue had any offensive uses of her powers at all. Most of the time her shields weren't exceptionally strong either. If you want to get bloody, Jean could pull Sue's eyes out or yank her whole brain out through her mouth. However, as Corp said this would be extremely out of character for either one of them. Neither one of them were emotionally capable of that sort of action.

[Vanguard07]

I'd go with Sue. Jean was way more useless despite a potentially more formidable power.

That an I hate all telepaths...
... except Cosmo.

[Majic Walrus]

Sue wins because Jean is loony toons.

[GlasgowBat]

It has no practical application, though. It's entirely out of character for Sue to throw bubbles in people's brains and watch their heads explode, and I don't think she has the extremely fine-tuned control necessary to expand a bubble in someone's brain until the pressure makes them pass out. It's just a crazy scenario people come up with because Sue could theoretically do it and end the fight really quickly, but she never, ever would if we're factoring personality into the thing.


exactly. i constantly see posters talking about how "hero x would just fly right up to hero z and rip their head off"

it really annoys me. it's not about what they could do, but what they would do.

[Ahura Mazda]

In the first two years, Sue couldn't do much so going with Jean here.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

5-5 tie right now.

[Mercy]

Is that by Alex Ross? It seems a lot better than what I usually see in his girls.
Same

[Genesis 1.0]

2 years? Sue was mainly defensive, a reactive character in that era.

Jean

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I would've picked Sue. They were both weak with there powers back then, both needed to concentrate hard to use their powers and both could be distracted and lose their focus way to easy but I think if Sue was in a bad position with no one else to help her she would would do what she has always done. she would have lashed out instinctively and discovered a new use for her power by accident. That is how she eventually discovered most of the uses to her powers and I think if the situation that caused those discoveries had come earlier in her career she just would have discovered those uses to her powers earlier.

Rather than tie the score again I will abstain.

Jean wins 6-5.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

CAPTIAN MARVEL

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/CaptainMarvelIII_03.jpg

VS

WONDER MAN

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/WonderMan01.jpg

[WolfCypher]

Captain Marvel

[Mercy]

Captian marvel

[Anubis]

Genis

[TheCorpulent1]

Genis. Wonder Man's more powerful on paper, but Genis used his powers a lot better in the comics.

[Sparta*]

Genis

[Vanguard07]

Genis.

[Chris Wallace]

Genis.

[TheCorpulent1]

Wow. Landslide so far.

[Silicon Surfer]

As much because I absolutely refuse to vote for a retconned in child of Mar-Vell as anything else, Wonder Man ftw.

[Majic Walrus]

Based on their fighting abilities alone I've got to go ith Genis.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Wow! 8-1 so far. Poor Simon.

[3dman27]

simon

[Genesis 1.0]

Genis easily

[CanaryFan]

wonder man

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm surprised that Genis is winning by such a landslide. Wonder Man really is a lot more powerful than Genis was. Genis just used his power a lot more ruthlessly when he went crazy.

[Genesis 1.0]

Simon just doesn't meet his potential on paper, while it's the reverse, Genis exceeds what you see in a dry power summary.

[TheCorpulent1]

True. The cosmic awareness helps, too. He can see what's coming better than Simon can and plan accordingly.

[Vanguard07]

That and Simon's a quitter and a wimp according to NA.

[TheCorpulent1]

And he has bad fashion sense. I mean, really, choosing to go back to that red jacket? What are you doing, Simon? :csad:

[3dman27]

And he has bad fashion sense. I mean, really, choosing to go back to that red jacket? What are you doing, Simon? :csad:

he's to quote ric flair "stylein' and profilein"'

[Genesis 1.0]

I look forward to a real overhaul of WM, he used to be alot more serious and now? Well he's just soft.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Captian Marvel whoops Wonder Man with a 9-3 victory, ouch!

MEPHISTO

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/Mephisto02.jpg

VS

HELA

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/Hela01.jpg

[Faded To Deaf]

Mephisto.

[Vanguard07]

I'll vote for Hela, she's the devil to the asgardian gods. Mephisto is a divorce lawyer.

[CanaryFan]

Hela

[random_havoc]

Mephisto.

Though, urgh, I can't help but think of OMD now.... wish I could wash my brain out with soap to get rid of it!

[Silicon Surfer]

Mephisto, Hela was once killed fairly easily by Odin when she tried to kill Thor so she is well below Odin's level. Mephisto on the other hand is powerful even though he prefers to use a degree of subtlety, Mephisto has held his own in battle against Galactus which should put him above Odin.

[Anubis]

Mephisto I guess.

[TheCorpulent1]

Mephisto, since it's a battle thread. But Hela's always been a better character, and after OMD she's now an astronomically better character.

[Ahura Mazda]

I hate to say it but Mephisto takes this one as convuluted a character he is and the unfortunate story he played such a big role in.

[Sparta*]

Hela

[Mercy]

Hela

[Genesis 1.0]

Hela showcases her powers in more obvious ways than Mephisto, so it lends credence to her abilities, but Mephisto uses his powers in less overt ways but has much more of it to bring to bear. This is a battle, not mind manipulation, so Mephisto's not going be playing around with Hela which means I'm giving my vote to....

Mephisto

[GlasgowBat]

yeah, mephisto for this one.

i can't really see how hela could win in a fair contest.

[Chris Wallace]

Mephisto.

[WolfCypher]

Satan (Mephisto)

[SuperFerret]

Meph.

[TheCorpulent1]

Meph.
Mister Meph?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/method_man.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

Meph.
Mister Meph?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/method_man.jpg

[Majic Walrus]

Mephisto.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Mephisto wins 12-4

[The_Mighty_Thor]

MOON KNIGHT

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/MoonKnight09.jpg

VS

DARE DEVIL

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/Daredevil07.jpg

[Anubis]

Dd.

[Faded To Deaf]

Daredevil

[Mercy]

Matt

[3dman27]

the knight

[WolfCypher]

Moon Knight

[random_havoc]

DD for sure

[CanaryFan]

Spector

[Vanguard07]

Daredevil easy.

[lowly marvelite]

Since the last thread ended and nobody ever started a new one here goes!

First up

THOR

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/Thor09.jpg

VS

SENTRY

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/Sentry02.jpg
Thor. Pre-Odin-force Thor would have been a closer fight.

[lowly marvelite]

Thor wins 7-2




Next up

HERCULES

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/Hercules06.jpg

VS

NAMOR

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/SubMariner01.jpg
Hercules.

[lowly marvelite]

CAPTIAN MARVEL


http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/CaptainMarvelIII_03.jpg

VS

WONDER MAN


http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/WonderMan01.jpg

Wonder Man.

[SuperFerret]

Mister Meph?

No, Meph was my nickname for a cat I knew named Mephistopheles. :o

And I vote Daredevil.

[Snapper_Carr]

My Mom vs. your Mom. Your Mom wins, because my Mom's not ghetto.

[Snapper_Carr]

drinking....I'll stop there. No offense intended to anyone's excellent matriarchal figure.

[Ahura Mazda]

I vote Daredevil unless the match hapens during a night where the full moon is shining.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Well for me this is a fight that could go either way on any given night so I can't really argue against voting for either character. I'm throwing my vote to the fists of Khonshu cause I like him better, especially currently.

It's currently 7-4 in favor of Daredevil.

[Majic Walrus]

Moon Knight is simply worlds more brutal than DD has ever been. I vote Moon Knight.

[Sparta*]

ill go with DD

[Anubis]

Moon Knight is simply worlds more brutal than DD has ever been. I vote Moon Knight.

More brutal? Yes. Better fighter? Hell no.

[TheCorpulent1]

Being more brutal is all that matters, though. Geez, have you ever even heard of Wolverine? :whatever:

[Genesis 1.0]

Hey who doesn't love a good round of stomach churning brutality?

Moon Knight

[Majic Walrus]

Being more brutal is all that matters, though. Geez, have you ever even heard of Wolverine? :whatever:

:lmao:

All I mean is that Moon Knight won't hold back or try to get DD "under control" he'll simply beat the **** out of him. Meanwhile DD will wear himself out trying to get Moon Knight under control.

[TheCorpulent1]

I've always gotten the impression that Daredevil is pretty brutal himself. Like, he generally won't kill but he'll do everything right up to the brink of killing without a second thought.

But I don't know that much about either character, which is why I'm abstaining.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Dare Devil wins 8-6


Next match!

STARHAWK

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/Starhawk01.jpg

VS

THUNDERSTRIKE

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/Thunderstrike01.jpg

[3dman27]

thunderstrike

[TheCorpulent1]

As much as I love Thunderstrike, I gotta go with Starhawk.

Also, whoever painted that Thunderstrike picture gave him Thor's hammer instead of his own mace. :o

[Ahura Mazda]

If that is Thunderstrike with Mjollnir I would go with him but as it is probably not I am going with Starhawk.

[Faded To Deaf]

Starhawk, due to his precognition.

[Anubis]

Starhawk

[Mercy]

Starhawk

[Silicon Surfer]

Thunderstrike. Starhawk just doesn't have the raw power. His strength is only at the 5 ton level. He has vast perceptions but only helps him perceive how completely he is screwed.

[CanaryFan]

Thunderstrike. Starhawk just doesn't have the raw power. His strength is only at the 5 ton level..

and yet he once fought Thor hand to hand and held his own. I never did figure out how but it happened! Still I'm voting Thunderstrike as well.

[TheCorpulent1]

Wikipedia says he augmented his natural strength with his energy powers/light constructs, increasing his strength and durability. Assuming that's true, Thunderstrike is probably out of his league. He doesn't have Thor's fighting skills or Thor's strength, while Starhawk has limited precognition on his side.

[Sparta*]

Thunderstrike

[Vanguard07]

Mr Masterson

[Majic Walrus]

Starhawk, the limit precognition will win this fight.

[Genesis 1.0]

What Starhawk lacks in raw power, which he does in comparison with Thunderstrike no question, he's got a much wider array of abilities on his end. Not to mention the fact that I'd say he's much more intelligent than Mr. T. Throw in the precog and that's a wrap.

Starhawk.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I'm voting for masterson. Fighting Thor was way out of character for Starhawk and Thor didn't use all his powers or go all out against him. Eric is no Thor but I think in the end he would find a way to win.

Starhawk takes it though with a 7-6 victory!

[The_Mighty_Thor]

MYSTERIO

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/31566/722146-mysterio_4_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/mysterio_4/105-722146/)

VS

MIRAGE

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/13536/341738-16922-mirage-i_large.PNG (http://www.comicvine.com/16922-mirage-i/105-341738/)

[Mercy]

Mysterio

[Harlekin]

Mysterio

[TheCorpulent1]

I've never even heard of Mirage. :csad:

[3dman27]

Mysterio

[Faded To Deaf]

Mysterio, because he's better known.

[WolfCypher]

Mysterio...

[Mercy]

I do know a Mirage in DC but not one in Marvel :P

[Anubis]

Heres some info on the prick.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirage_(Marvel_Comics)

Mysterio by the way.

[SuperFerret]

Mysterio

[CanaryFan]

Mirage doesn't come close to Mysterios level of Illusions.

Mysterio FTW

[Chris Wallace]

Mysterio.

[Genesis 1.0]

Fishbowl Head

[Ahura Mazda]

Mysterio I guess

[The_Mighty_Thor]

11 nothing Mysterio

[The_Mighty_Thor]

GLADIATOR

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/GladiatorIII_01.jpg

VS

BLACK BOLT

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/BlackBolt03.jpg

[3dman27]

gladiator

[Ahura Mazda]

Can I wait until the end of the mini arc before I answer this? :p

Reasonably, given Blackbolt's ultimate power he should be able to take Gladiator who can be affected by a loss of confidence.

[Mercy]

Gladiator

[Sparta*]

Black Bolt

[Anubis]

Black Bolt

[Silicon Surfer]

Gladiator

[Vanguard07]

Black Bolt. He's beaten him before, and he'll do it again pretty soon.

[random_havoc]

Black Bolt. I hate Gladiator.

[CanaryFan]

Black Bolt

[Faded To Deaf]

Kallark The Gladiator

[Majic Walrus]

Black Bolt

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I've got to side with Black Bolt on this one.

Black Bolt leads 7-4

[Genesis 1.0]

Gladiator

[TheCorpulent1]

Gladiator. He's a bit of an underdog, but I think if Glads can get Black Bolt out into space, where sound doesn't travel, he would prove to be physically superior.

[WolfCypher]

Black Bolt

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Black Bolt takes it 8-6

Next up

BLACK KNIGHT

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/BlackKnightXV01.jpg

VS

BLACK PANTHER

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/thor1369/Marvel/BlackPantherI_03.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

The Black Knight. Dude can and has held his own against Captain America, so he should be able to do the same against the Black Panther. It'd be a very, very tough win, but I think he could pull it out in the end, especially since the Panther's vibranium armor and weapons don't really compare to the Ebony Blade.

[Ahura Mazda]

Says you....when you can armlock the Silver Surfer, Dane shouldn't be an isssue. ;)

I am voting Black Knight ..... surprise

[TheCorpulent1]

We don't talk about that. :cmad:

[Anubis]

Pfft, seriously? Black Panther wins this one. Held his own against Cap? BP could beat Cap.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't agree. I give them about 50/50 odds against each other. They're like the most evenly matched combatants in the Marvel universe in my mind.

Cap and BP, not BP and the Black Knight. The Black Knight pwns the Panther. :oldrazz:

[Anubis]

That statement lacks so much sense I'm offended by it's mere presence in this thread.

[TheCorpulent1]

Eh, it's pretty conceivable that the Black Knight could beat the Black Panther. He's one of the best fighters in the Marvel universe and probably the best swordsman. Assuming this is a straight-up fight and we're not giving the Panther lame, Batman-style prep, it'd be a pretty close match with the Knight's magic weaponry giving him the slight advantage over the Panther's still respectable vibranium tech.

[Anubis]

With the Panther, I'm more inclined to believe that he developed a strategy long ago to take down everybody if he had to. He doesn't need Prep, all he need do is follow the plans he already had set up. And this isn't just a bulls**t guess, it's actually true. It's the whole reason he even joined the Avengers in the first place.

[WolfCypher]

Black Panther

[Vanguard07]

Dane Whitman forever ftw.

[Silicon Surfer]

Dane

[Genesis 1.0]

Whaaa? Dane? Really?

It hurts to agree with Anubis but T'Challa takes this one, not easy of course, but he takes it every time.

Black Panther


btw, Black Panther > Captain America

[Silicon Surfer]

The Black Panther was originally created as virtually identical to Cap in physical abilities. Cap had the shield however while BP had vision that extended somewhat into the infra-red.

[Genesis 1.0]

Oh how things have changed.

[TheCorpulent1]

What's changed? Is the Black Panther somehow superhuman now? I thought the heart-shaped herb basically did the same thing as the Super-Soldier Serum, enhancing all of the person's physical attributes to peak human, and then the Black Panther has vibranium tech on top of that while Cap has his shield and both are among the best fighters in the Marvel universe. Seems like a pretty even match to me.

[random_havoc]

That statement lacks so much sense I'm offended by it's mere presence in this thread.

lol


I vote BP, though I still think Cap should win the majority against him, I put Dane below them both.

[CanaryFan]

Dane

[Faded To Deaf]

Does the Knight still have the Photonic Sword?

If he does, I'd say he'd win. If he doesn't, Black Panther and his Ebony Blade make up for skills with the sword.

[Majic Walrus]

Dane

[TheCorpulent1]

Does the Knight still have the Photonic Sword?

If he does, I'd say he'd win. If he doesn't, Black Panther and his Ebony Blade make up for skills with the sword.
The Black Panther doesn't have the Ebony Blade. Storm gave it back to Dane in Captain Britain and MI-13 recently.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Does the Knight still have the Photonic Sword?

If he does, I'd say he'd win. If he doesn't, Black Panther and his Ebony Blade make up for skills with the sword.

He does but rarely uses it however he took the Ebony blade back! That's why I have to give my vote to Dane.

7-4 Dane so far

[3dman27]

t'challa

[Sparta*]

Black Panther

[Faded To Deaf]

Black Knight.

[Anubis]

Racists. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Reverse-racist. :o