Avengers pushed back until 2012

[smooth3006]

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:csad:

anybody else have a bad feeling about this?

[WillardNation]

at least we'll get to see it before the end of the world.....

[Gatchamanjp]

Marvel's schedule was a little too ambitious for such a new studio...in this time of recession. That said, maybe a film could be made in place of...Thor for 2010, one with less sfx than, that...Nick Fury or Black Widow, maybe?

[Blader5489]

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:csad:

anybody else have a bad feeling about this?

Actually, I'd say this is a good thing.

[FaT_tONle]

WTF.... so much for that... now Avengers/BB3 will be in a collision course for 2012... was hoping to avoid that... so much for two films a year. What else is Marvel doing?

Edit: And Thor moves to 2011 as well??? EXACTLY what I feared... what the **** happened here...

[Kane52630]

at least we'll get to see it before the end of the world.....

that is what i was about to say :funny: ...... :dry: ....... :csad:

[marcvader]

WTF.... so much for that... now Avengers/BB3 will be in a collision course for 2012... was hoping to avoid that... so much for two films a year. What else is Marvel doing?

Edit: And Thor moves to 2011 as well??? EXACTLY what I feared... what the **** happened here...

I think a collision course between BB3 and Avengers is exciting two of the biggest comicbook movies in the same year, hell yeah, bring it on.

The Thor release being delayed? well maybe Branagh expressed his doubts about having enough time to deliver the type of movie he's planning to make. I see no problem with wanting more time especially with the type of movie Thor needs to be.

[FaT_tONle]

At the very least... I'd move Thor to Memorial Day... Cap to July 1st. Those are just bad release dates IMO.

And I fear this means the end of the Hulk franchise because I don't see Norton returning having Hulk on ice for basically four years.

[marcvader]

I agree with you about Hulk or dare I say it recast?

[Immortalfire]

Not surprised. With everything else they're planning to do, and the dates they're aiming for, I figured Avengers would pushed back the most.

[Chewy]

This means Jon Favreau could now potentially direct Avengers

[Philly Phanboy]

Aren't they contractually obligated through their studio loan to put out a certain number of movies? Will this mean that either Ant-Man or Runaways will get Thor's previous release date now? I know that both are in active development but still on the script phase.

[JerseyJoker]

Smart move.

Because 2011 was getting a bit crowded already, and moving Avengers by itself in 2012 (for now) it gives it more a state of prominence and importance, as after the run of 2010-11 films goes, there is nothing but excitement and hype towards Avengers.

[CaptainStacy]

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:csad:

anybody else have a bad feeling about this?


No, not at all. Mainly because that original date was becoming too crowded, but also because these movies ALWAYS come out better when they are carefully planned and thought out slowly.

I think this was the best course of action.

[marcvader]

Agreed Cap. That's what I've been saying.

[Blade X]

Here's something to ponder. Will the animated series also be pushed back now that the movie is being pushed back or will the animated series still come out in 2011 and serve as sort of an unofficial promotion for the movie (like the WOLVERINE AND THE X-MEN series)?

[Aztec]

I love how everyone keeps talking about Batman 3 yet there's no director, script, etc. Based upon what I've seen Nolan is rather ambivalent about attempting a third film. Besides Marvel has the upperhand now, WB would rather move Batman 3 (a film which is nowhere near being ready to be released) and rake in the dough then face stiff competition like The Avengers.

[Chewy]

"Upper hand" :huh:

Batman 3 is likely going to be released in July 2012. People who still think it's coming out in 2011 are only kidding themselves at this point.

[Blader5489]

I love how everyone keeps talking about Batman 3 yet there's no director, script, etc. Based upon what I've seen Nolan is rather ambivalent about attempting a third film. Besides Marvel has the upperhand now, WB would rather move Batman 3 (a film which is nowhere near being ready to be released) and rake in the dough then face stiff competition like The Avengers.

Guess you haven't heard, but Nolan has already agreed to direct Batman 3. In fact, he and his brother have already started working on the script, and may have even finished a first draft.

[Christmas]

This means Jon Favreau could now potentially direct Avengers

That's probably the reason it's pushed back don't you think? Instead of a third film to direct he does Avengers.

[Spider-Vader]

Aren't they contractually obligated through their studio loan to put out a certain number of movies? Will this mean that either Ant-Man or Runaways will get Thor's previous release date now? I know that both are in active development but still on the script phase.

I think we could see a SHIELD movie with that introduces the Pyms instead. A cheap movie (well considering the budgets of the others so far) starring Samuel Jackson, Scarlett Johansen & whoever they cast as the Pyms? Cha-ching!

I'm sad that they're moving Thor's date back, well maybe Barnargh didn't think he could do his epic movie in such short time. Though, I think the dates will move again, with Cap being on July 4th (it's only reasonable & there's no other movie on this date yet) & Thor in Cap's old spot.

I'm not worried this mean Marvel will have time to make better movies.

[FaT_tONle]

If they release Thor last week of May... May 27th ish... then they can get Cap into July 1st. June has been a HORRIBLE date for comic book films. I really don't know what Marvel is thinking there. I came down hard but I realize it's not a bad idea altogether since BB3 is likely July 2012 regardless. I just think Thor needs that Memorial Day weekend. It's a better date.

[Spider-Vader]

With the semi-failures of TIH & the FF movies, I think Marvel will stay clear of June.

[Aztec]

I wouldn't call The Incredible Hulk a failure on any level. It more than made it's money back, it was a FAR superior movie to the prior Hulk film, it further developed the Marvel film mythos, and it gave the fans what they've been wanting from a Hulk movie.

Also, if it were possible, a S.H.I.E.L.D. movie that introduces the Pyms would be an excellent precursor to The Avengers. Although at this point, it seems highly unlikely.

[Nirvana]

I'm glad that Marvel pushed this.

[The Major]

I'm glad that Marvel pushed this.
Agreed.

[Ironfan72]

Aintitcool.com reports that the film was pushed back to allow Favreau to direct Avengers, he is commited to Iron Man 2 and Iron Man 3 which he has said he is commited to, since he has been planning a three picture arc.
IM 2 will have Justin Hammer and Crimson Dynamo/Whiplash and Iron Man 3 wil have Mandarin as the main baddie.
Favreau has expressed a desire to direct Avengers and looks like he may have gotten his wish.
Here's the link: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40410

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ohhh the Avengers vs Batman 3.. that should be fun :hehe:

[roach]

When did Nolan announce he was directing Bat3???? I am sure this would have been big news

[Raiden]

I'm happy about the pushed-back release date. I was getting the sense that Marvel is pushing too many projects out at around the same time, even though we have had little or no information about their progress. I particularly don't want Cap to precede Avengers by just a month or so, because Cap is still not as famous as Spider-man and Batman, and many moviegoers may not understand Cap's story before Avengers is opened. With this revised release dates, many people would be able to catch up to Cap, either in theatre or on DVD, and that will help Avengers if GA have become familiar with the Big Three (Iron Man, Thor, Cap). It will give give Marvel ample time to make sure each of their movies receive the best treatment possible.

[Raiden]

Aintitcool.com reports that the film was pushed back to allow Favreau to direct Avengers, he is commited to Iron Man for 2 more films IM2 & IM3, however IM3 will come out after Avengers.
In Iron Man 2, Iron Man fans will get Justin Hammer & Crimson Dynamo as the villains, IM3 will have Mandarin, but part of the agreement signed by Favreau was 2 Iron Man films and the right to direct Avengers

I thought Mickey Rourke will play Whiplash?

[Blader5489]

When did Nolan announce he was directing Bat3???? I am sure this would have been big news

It was part of his deal to do Inception.

[hippie_hunter]

I'm happy about the pushed-back release date. I was getting the sense that Marvel is pushing too many projects out at around the same time, even though we have had little or no information about their progress. I particularly don't want Cap to precede Avengers by just a month or so, because Cap is still not as famous as Spider-man and Batman, and many moviegoers may not understand Cap's story before Avengers is opened. With this revised release dates, many people would be able to catch up to Cap, either in theatre or on DVD, and that will help Avengers if GA have become familiar with the Big Three (Iron Man, Thor, Cap). It will give give Marvel ample time to make sure each of their movies receive the best treatment possible.

I'm hoping with Thor pushed back that Marvel will push a smaller film like Ant-Man or Runaways in 2010. I think that's how they should do it. Not two huge gigantic pictures back to back.

[mclay18]

Aintitcool.com reports that the film was pushed back to allow Favreau to direct Avengers, he is commited to Iron Man for 2 more films IM2 & IM3, however IM3 will come out after Avengers.
In Iron Man 2, Iron Man fans will get Justin Hammer & Crimson Dynamo as the villains, IM3 will have Mandarin, but part of the agreement signed by Favreau was 2 Iron Man films and the right to direct Avengers

Where at AICN does it say that? I've looked for that bit, but I can't find it anywhere.

[Evil Twin]

Aren't they contractually obligated through their studio loan to put out a certain number of movies? Will this mean that either Ant-Man or Runaways will get Thor's previous release date now? I know that both are in active development but still on the script phase.

These type of contracts can be renegotiated. It's essentially refinancing a mortgage on Marvel's movie slate.

Marvel isn't borrowing a lot of money, relatively speaking, to develop a movie. The big cash payouts happen when production begins. There's really no risk to the financing companies in that development phase. And, let's remember, that the financing companies really don't want to get the rights to characters. They're in the banking business, not the film development business. Foreclosing isn't really a money making proposition.

I expect that the two film requirement is a limit, not a minimum, so as to avoid risk. And requiring Marvel to release the films in the Summer is another risk avoidance requirement, at least until someone else proves superhero movies can make large sums of money at another point in the year. Other than that, as long as Marvel makes their payments on time, I don't see why the financing companies wouldn't be flexible. Terms may change if Marvel dawdles too long and the banks aren't getting a significant return on their time and money, the credit crunch probably is making things more difficult for Marvel, but so far Marvel looks like a pretty safe investment.

[roach]

I'm hoping with Thor pushed back that Marvel will push a smaller film like Ant-Man or Runaways in 2010. I think that's how they should do it. Not two huge gigantic pictures back to back.

when did they announce Ant-man and Runaways????
I feel so out of touch

[hippie_hunter]

when did they announce Ant-man and Runaways????
I feel so out of touch

Ant-Man was announced as part of the original slate of films in the Marvel/Merill Lynch deal. Then they got the rights to Hulk and Iron Man back.

It even has a director with Edgar Wright and the script is written by Wright and Joe Cornish.

Runaways is in script development with BKV writing it.

[FaT_tONle]

We said the same thing about Ant-Man/Runaways in 2007-8 as far as them coming out in 2009 as part of a one picture plan for that summer season. But that was yet again delayed. If it's STILL in question as we speak today... isn't it safe to say its not happening? Anything can happen but still...

And as far as Avengers... I still would have liked to see it open mid July as the last big film of the summer. It's kind of anti-climactic opening the summer with it. There is always BB3... but I hope it doesn't steal some of that Avengers thunder. Guess Marvel just really likes that 1st week of May release.

[nogap87]

I'm thankful for the change in schedule. I would hate for Thor to be another Incredible Hulk (great movie, second rate advertising).

[Aluchak]

I'm glad they changed the date. I mean, all those movies is already enough as it is.
Oh yeah, and I'll no longer a boy, but I'll be a man when the movie comes out.

[Ironfan72]

Where at AICN does it say that? I've looked for that bit, but I can't find it anywhere.


Here: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40410

[Voorhees]

Completely happy with the change of date. Now we can be assured that they won't try to rush Avengers into theater just because their characters are hot at the moment. This change in the date gives them more time to work hard and make the best possible movie.