Asgard

[Marz69]

ASGARD


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How would you like Asgard and it’s universe to look? How will Asgard be incorporated into the Avengers? Will Stark, Nick or any of the others make a cameo in Thor in Asgard? Etc….

I’m hoping to be blown away.

[marcvader]

I want a little Middle Earth with a dash of Kirby tech and no to any non Asgardians in Asgard at least not yet.

[FVD]

Loved the look of Asgard in the Hulk vs Thor feature as well. Hope the Production Designers are taking full notes. Hire Richard Taylor, Grant Major and Weta if need be.

[Brian Braddock]

^^^Definately.

I've posted this before but I'd also like for the production designers to have at least looked at this when considering Asgards look:-

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/Valhalla.jpg

There's a certain magical quality to this piece that that gives it a certain aura which almost suggests that godly beings actually are beyond those walls...........

[Canis Sapiens]

^

That. Is. Fantastic. :wow:

Are you taking notes, Kenneth? :oldrazz:


And I don't think non-asgardians should visit the place... yet.

[Marz69]

Loved the look of Asgard in the Hulk vs Thor feature as well.
Me too.
^^^Definately.

I've posted this before but I'd also like for the production designers to have at least looked at this when considering Asgards look:-

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/Valhalla.jpg

There's a certain magical quality to this piece that that gives it a certain aura which almost suggests that godly beings actually are beyond those walls...........
It does have a very heavenly vibe. Exquisite.

Hopefully we get these type of arial or panoramic shots. I really want Thor to stand out.

[Brian Braddock]

Yeah, Imagine that kind of panoramic shot but with Thor at the foot of the Rainbow Bridge. Despite bing a god and the lead character, he's still be a speck in comparison to the grandness of Asgard:-

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/Valhalla2.jpg

I've posted these pics before too - but I definately would like to see cinematoghaphical shots like these in the movie also:-

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/kyle_asgard_sized.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/asgard.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/1757369-Mount-Asgard-0.jpg

I think these kinda locations would be an excellent contrast to the modern, urban world that we're used to seeing in Marvel movies.

[TheCorpulent1]

Those last 3 pics look perfect for Jotunheim. :up:

Personally, I want the practicality of Coipel's current Asgard with a lot more gold and richness to it, like Kirby's. I'd love to see more real Norse influences on the buildings than we've seen in either of those two versions, though.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm expecting it to look very LOTR-ish

[Grommers]

Hopefully not that LotR-ish...last thing we need is people asking where have all the hobbits gone

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, LotR has its own visual style. I want something more distinctive than just a rehash of that for Thor.

[marcvader]

Like I said earlier LOTR with some Kirby influence.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd like them to just forget about Lord of the Rings, myself. Go back to actual ancient Norse architectural styles and jazz them up with gilding and some Kirby-esque touches. Norse architecture actually looked really cool and would provide a nice alternative to the standard medieval fantasy look.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'd love to see some ancient Norse architecture, cuz I have no idea what that would look like so I'd learn something new lol

[marcvader]

Isn't Rohan Norse looking?

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, Rohan did have a Norse look to it in the films.

[Changeling]

Yeah, its gotta be distinctly different from LOTR. And does it have to have a Rainbow Bridge? It's pretty fem...

[Brian Braddock]

In a movie about a massive guy with a hammer crushing troll skull, I think there's room for a rainbow bridge without the movie appearing to be lacking in machismo.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Yes there must be a rainbow bridge and Heimdall must stand guard over it!

Asgard should look as much like Kirby's Asgard as possible!

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, definitely gotta have the rainbow bridge. Just call it Bifrost if the word "rainbow" is too girly. It doesn't really have to be a paper-thin rainbow like in the comics, either. Make it a shimmering bridge of light with the rainbow colors all glowy and shiny and stuff. There are visually appealing ways to do it.

[Brian Braddock]

Absolutely.

So, to go with the pic of Asgard posted before:-

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/Valhalla2.jpg

I'd like the designers to look to the Northern Lights for inspiration as well, not only for Bifrost but also the surrounding backdrop to Asgard - sort of giving it that whole 'mystical' vibe.-

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/asgard-1.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/northernlights_Full.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/NorthernLights.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/NorthernLights-1.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/448670730_6fdbff73b2.jpg

Actually, for some reason, I'm now thinking of the visual style of Excalibur (1981) as being a something to look at.............

[marcvader]

Yes Excalibur! That cinematography would go well with giving Asgard a mystical vibe.

[Agent 194]

I like that Brian Braddock. I want the rainbow bridge, the Kirby touch, the craziness of it all. Everything.

[Ahura Mazda]

The rainbow bridge is an absolute must. I am less adamant on the look of Asgard itself.

[AndThePickles]

Loved the look of Asgard in the Hulk vs Thor feature as well. Hope the Production Designers are taking full notes. Hire Richard Taylor, Grant Major and Weta if need be.

I enjoyed the way it was portrayed there, too.

[TheCorpulent1]

The only part I didn't like about Hulk vs. Thor's Asgard was the main hall thingy where Odin's mouth formed the door. Looked a bit too Gigeresque for Asgard to me.

[AndThePickles]

I think my main problem picturing Asgard is that when I think of castles, I think "Camelot." I'm sure Asgard should look more "rough-hewn" than I imagine.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yes there must be a rainbow bridge and Heimdall must stand guard over it!

Amen

[TheCorpulent1]

I think my main problem picturing Asgard is that when I think of castles, I think "Camelot." I'm sure Asgard should look more "rough-hewn" than I imagine.
That's the problem a lot of people have with Asgard, it seems. More often than not, it comes off looking medieval European, which is not the right look for it as far as I'm concerned. Vikings and Norsemen had their own unique architectural styles.

[marcvader]

This is true but I think what we have hear in our world is an aproximation of what Asgard should be. Asgard shouldn't be primative. They are superior beings therefor their designs and architecture need to be almost alien, enter Kirby.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but they should never look as high tech as some of Kirby's designs. I like a lot of Kirby's ideas, but I'd prefer a more realistic Viking interpretation that favors simplicity of form but inhumanly amazing craftsmanship. Like Mjolnir: it doesn't look like much on the surface, but it's deceptively powerful. Asgard should take that Viking visual style and blow it up to the nth degree.

[marcvader]

That's fine but I see no reason why Asgardians would have such primitive looking structures, it isn't Midgard and they are Gods after all so their abodes should be fitting for Gods. The other thing is Asgardians aren't vikings they influenced them yes but they shouldn't be living in rustic looking palaces.

[TheCorpulent1]

I wouldn't want anything to look rustic, I just want to preserve the Viking design sensibilities. Double the size of your typical Viking building and gild it in gold and it'll look like it's worthy of a god. Kirby's designs just look too space agey to me.

[marcvader]

I agree Kirby went a little too far but I do want some things here and there to look alien or futuristic kind of like in Stargate. You see where the Egyptians got their influences when you entered the alien pyramid ship, it looked old but at the same time there futuristic things as well. I'm sure something like that can be done but with the norse influences.

[Ahura Mazda]

That's the problem a lot of people have with Asgard, it seems. More often than not, it comes off looking medieval European, which is not the right look for it as far as I'm concerned. Vikings and Norsemen had their own unique architectural styles.

Yes but these were Gods so reallly their architecture should be beyond that of normal men.

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree Kirby went a little too far but I do want some things here and there to look alien or futuristic kind of like in Stargate. You see where the Egyptians got their influences when you entered the alien pyramid ship, it looked old but at the same time there futuristic things as well. I'm sure something like that can be done but with the norse influences.
Hmm, that'd be cool. I wouldn't mind seeing some futuristic stuff mixed in with the Viking stuff. A juxtaposition of the two styles would work really well, now that you mention it.

[marcvader]

Exactly, that's the way I see the Asgardians. They're really not human like you and I so they are capable of other worldly things. They're visitation preceded the uprise of the norse cultures and therefor influenced them in the creation of they're Gods, dress, and architecture. That was done really well in Stargate. It doesn't have to be all out futuristic but little things here and there. What we see on the big screen has to be something all together different than what we've seen so far.

[TheCorpulent1]

I just don't really want to see too much electrical-looking stuff. Like I said with Mjolnir, things should be really powerful and advanced without losing all of the ancient design elements.

[marcvader]

Agreed

[Shemtov]

Asgard should have a lot of Stave buildings:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Urnes_stave_church%2C_Dahl.jpg
Covered with Dragestil:
http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/00093/Oslo_Bymuseum_93551a.jpg
However to make Asgard unique have the Dragestil be loarge 3-d Figures jutting from the buildings. Have Gold horns crowning the staves of the buildings too.

[TheCorpulent1]

That would be cool. Or just make the dragestil be glowing images hovering just off of the walls of the buildings. :up:

[marcvader]

Yes. We're building a nice Asgard here. Someone get Marvel on the line..

[TheCorpulent1]

Haha, they're probably like 6 months away from actually determining what Asgard will look like at this point. But if it looked like what we're describing, it'd rock. I liked the suggestion a while back about an Aurora Borealis-style Bifrost, too.

[marcvader]

So, floating island or spheric planetoid. I say enormous floating island as far as the eye can see maybe in the opening shot starting with darkness then the aurora bolealislike bifrost bridge following it until Asgard slowly zooming into view.

[FVD]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/Valhalla.jpg


Does that rock formation signify what I think it is? :D

[Marz69]

Asgard should have a lot of Stave buildings:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Urnes_stave_church%2C_Dahl.jpg
Covered with Dragestil:
http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/00093/Oslo_Bymuseum_93551a.jpg
However to make Asgard unique have the Dragestil be loarge 3-d Figures jutting from the buildings. Have Gold horns crowning the staves of the buildings too.
Very nice.
So, floating island or spheric planetoid. I say enormous floating island as far as the eye can see maybe in the opening shot starting with darkness then the aurora bolealislike bifrost bridge following it until Asgard slowly zooming into view.
An opening shot of the asteroid and all that jazz would be magnificent.

[TheCorpulent1]

I like seeing Asgard as a floating landmass. "How does it stay afloat and how does it have daytime and nighttime, etc.?" MAGIC! That's part of the fun of Asgard from the comics. I don't know how the f*** half of the physics of that thing are supposed to work, but they work 'cause Odin tells them to, basically.

[Marz69]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/northernlights_Full.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/NorthernLights.jpg


If they show a shot of the asteroid & have the rainbow bridge appear misty flowing into space like these pics, it would could be magical, and would remove the girly effect. The rainbow would be more heavenly.

[FVD]

^^Agreed. It looks more awe inspiring to great effect.

[Marz69]

I like seeing Asgard as a floating landmass. "How does it stay afloat and how does it have daytime and nighttime, etc.?" MAGIC! That's part of the fun of Asgard from the comics. I don't know how the f*** half of the physics of that thing are supposed to work, but they work 'cause Odin tells them to, basically.
I could be wrong, but I believe Asgard doesn't have a night time. It doesn't rotate. It has no axis. But I could be wrong & who knows how they'll do it in the movie. But the day/night question is interesting.

"It's nighttime, how can this be" - Jolly Volly
"This is from Odin!" - Thor

[Brian Braddock]

I think though, we should prepare ourselves for the possibility that they may choose to go with their own interpretation of Asgard in favour of anything inspired by the comics.....................

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, that's probably how it'll go. In the end, as long as Asgard looks awe-inspiring and worthy of being called "the golden city" of the gods, I'll be happy. Hulk vs. Thor's Asgard didn't conform exactly to my ideal version of Asgard either, but I still liked it.

[Colossal Spoons]

I hated Helheim(or Hel, not sure which it's called) in that TvsH movie.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's just Hel. It was okay to me. Looked basically like every generic hell dimension.

[Colossal Spoons]

It looked too much like the Grand Canyon for me lol

[afan]

Asgard should be other worldly in it's concept, but it should also be evident that it was the inspiration for Norse architecture.

I see it as working this way. Asgard is an alternate dimensional realm. The rainbow bridge a portal between it and Earth; a portal that opens periodically. The last opening occurring around the rise of the Vikings. Heimdall guards the portal.

[TheCorpulent1]

But Bifrost isn't a portal. It's always open.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

The Asgardians are the gods of the Norse not the Norse themselves so I really don't care if their architecture looks Norse or not. I just want it to look good! And a little kirby esq would be nice.

[TheCorpulent1]

It should definitely have Norse elements. Olympus is pretty much always portrayed with Greek architecture. I don't see why Asgard should be any different.

[marcvader]

But these are comicbook based Gods not the true mythological ones. You need to take that into consideration as well. I agree with the Asgardian architecture being the influence for all norse architecture but Asgard needs to be just a bit more than a grander version of what we have in Scandinavia.

[afan]

But Bifrost isn't a portal. It's always open.


I think the film will need to get away from the idea that Asgard is the home of the Norse gods, and re-invent the mythology in a sci-fi/fantasy context. i.e.; the Vikings may have viewed them as gods, but Asgardians don't view themselves as gods of anything.

I agree with the Asgardian architecture being the influence for all norse architecture but Asgard needs to be just a bit more than a grander version of what we have in Scandinavia.

Verily thy words ring true.

[TheCorpulent1]

I think the film will need to get away from the idea that Asgard is the home of the Norse gods, and re-invent the mythology in a sci-fi/fantasy context. i.e.; the Vikings may have viewed them as gods, but Asgardians don't view themselves as gods of anything.
Why? So many people want to retcon the Asgardians into just random aliens who happened to be considered gods or something, and it makes no sense to me. People readily accept that the Olympians are the Greek gods and never really question where they came from or what it means that they're gods. Why are the Asgardians any different? :huh:
But these are comicbook based Gods not the true mythological ones. You need to take that into consideration as well. I agree with the Asgardian architecture being the influence for all norse architecture but Asgard needs to be just a bit more than a grander version of what we have in Scandinavia.
I never said it should be completely the same. It needs to show some Norse influence, though. Abandoning all Norse influence from Asgard is one of my biggest pet peeves with the way it's often portrayed in the comics.

[afan]

Why? So many people want to retcon the Asgardians into just random aliens who happened to be considered gods or something, and it makes no sense to me. People readily accept that the Olympians are the Greek gods and never really question where they came from or what it means that they're gods. Why are the Asgardians any different? :huh:



Because the film is taking what people readily accept as "myth" and placing it in a reality, and the term god, just opens a whole can o worms, especially if Asgardians consider themselves as such.



I never said it should be completely the same. It needs to show some Norse influence, though. Abandoning all Norse influence from Asgard is one of my biggest pet peeves with the way it's often portrayed in the comics.


It's the other way around; Norse architecture showing an influence from Asgard.

[TheCorpulent1]

Because the film is taking what people readily accept as "myth" and placing it in a reality, and the term god, just opens a whole can o worms, especially if Asgardians consider themselves as such.
Again, the conservatives don't seem to have a problem with mythological characters like Hercules and Zeus and the like in other things. Doesn't make sense to me why Thor would need to be any different.
It's the other way around; Norse architecture showing an influence from Asgard.
Right, within the lore of the comic universe. But I'm talking in real life terms; the Asgardians' buildings should look similar to some extent to real Norse buildings because they were supposed to have been the inspiration for those Norse buildings in the first place.

[marcvader]

What we need is norse architecture with a dash of some magical elements.

[TheCorpulent1]

That would be ideal. :up: