View Full Version : Stephen King's "IT" remake has found a writer
Serkis is a cool choice.
I honestly think the ending may need to be reworked. A giant spider just feels a little cliche...especially after Aragog and Schelob. I'd rather see them face Pennywise in an uber monsterous clown phase or if they turned him into a monstrous demon.
Bubonic
11-22-2010, 06:17 PM
Serkis is a cool choice.
I honestly think the ending may need to be reworked. A giant spider just feels a little cliche...especially after Aragog and Schelob. I'd rather see them face Pennywise in an uber monsterous clown phase or if they turned him into a monstrous demon.
The original mini-series disappointed me so much with that, Curry was so terrifying as a clown, and then some cheap claymation spider for the finally killed it.
Yet with todays tech I'm sure they could make it quite terrifying, along with an uber cool morphing scene from clown to spider.
Serkis would be awesome, based on that I should be a casting agent... Someone needs to clown up on of the creepier Serkis pictures.
OH LAWDS... SERKIS...CIRCUS? Coincidence? No, it is KA!
Sawyer
11-22-2010, 08:02 PM
Serkis is a good one, but I'm still sticking with Giamatti. I dont know why, I just think he's got it in him...
Bubonic
11-22-2010, 11:49 PM
I'd also be happy with Giamatti, definitely enough of an actor to pull it off, he can really give intense stares and go over the top with anger when he needs too.
I've seen an oldish interview with the writer of this, has this project all but died, no director, producers or actors right?
GoldGoblin
11-23-2010, 12:12 PM
This movie will probably get going once Ron Howard has "The Dark Tower" in the theaters.
LOBO3315a
11-23-2010, 12:43 PM
Remember, Pennywise wasn't actually a spider. That was just what your brain would allow you to see, because seeing its true form would drive you insane. Too bad that can't translate to film.
GoldGoblin
11-23-2010, 01:05 PM
What if they really did see its true form and went insane.Where after they kill the giant spider you hear a voice behind them saying what are you guys up too now.Then we see them all in gowns huddled around a corner where they are smashing a regular sized spider in the corner inside a mental institution.
Whiskey Tango
11-23-2010, 01:57 PM
Remember, Pennywise wasn't actually a spider. That was just what your brain would allow you to see, because seeing its true form would drive you insane. Too bad that can't translate to film.
http://i53.tinypic.com/35jjhux.jpg
:awesome:
redhawk23
11-23-2010, 02:11 PM
How is he past the age to play an adult? :o
because theres a difference because even if they set the child scenes in 1980 he'd still be about 13 years too old, and that assuming its not set in the mid or late 80s.
GoblinWhirlwind
11-23-2010, 04:02 PM
because theres a difference because even if they set the child scenes in 1980 he'd still be about 13 years too old, and that assuming its not set in the mid or late 80s.
What are you talking about? The child scenes occurred during the summer of 1958. They met as adults in the mid 80's.
LOBO3315a
11-24-2010, 09:35 AM
What if they really did see its true form and went insane.Where after they kill the giant spider you hear a voice behind them saying what are you guys up too now.Then we see them all in gowns huddled around a corner where they are smashing a regular sized spider in the corner inside a mental institution.
Not too shabby, but it would be a deviation from the story. The only way to translate that to film, and keep to the original story is to make mention of another group of kids that were unsuccessful at stopping Pennywise, and do the scene you described with them.
Ghostvirus
11-24-2010, 12:22 PM
I know he isn't in the IT book, but I would love for them to incorporate Pennywises cousin from the Dark Tower series. That dude was crazy awesome!
GoblinWhirlwind
11-27-2010, 04:23 PM
Not too shabby, but it would be a deviation from the story. The only way to translate that to film, and keep to the original story is to make mention of another group of kids that were unsuccessful at stopping Pennywise, and do the scene you described with them.
That actually sounds pretty cool, as long as it's just a single mysterious, haunting image and not some long storyline insertion. An unsuccessful group of kids who tried to band together but failed at stopping It... when should it occur though? Before they all meet as adults?
LOBO3315a
11-29-2010, 08:23 AM
Maybe a bunch of kids that everyone always talked about like, "Well, you know what happened to Frank Smith after his gang were pulled out of the sewers the last time things like this happened around here. They were screaming, and yelling, and the girl even tried to bite her own mother! Now they are all locked away up in the Mayport Mental facility." Then we see them all in gowns huddled around a corner where they are smashing a regular sized spider in the corner. Then we hear a voice behind them saying, "What are you guys up to now?"
A Necessary Evil
01-14-2011, 12:24 AM
It's early 2011. Let's be honest.
This isn't happening.
Sawyer
01-14-2011, 12:25 AM
You're not happening! :cmad:
A Necessary Evil
01-14-2011, 12:27 AM
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9589/happening.jpg
Cheese and Crackers! :awesome:
GoblinWhirlwind
01-14-2011, 04:03 PM
I'm in no rush. There's enough awesome stuff coming out in the next two years.
They can take their time and do it whenever they want.
Carnotaur3
01-14-2011, 04:28 PM
Would you guys stop bumping this thread? You make me think something is happening with the film everytime I open it.
The Guard
01-16-2011, 03:51 PM
Maybe instead of just the giant spider...they could go full on otherdimensional deadlights, and the ritual of Chud.
GoblinWhirlwind
01-16-2011, 03:56 PM
Whoever designed the insects in The Mist could do the spider. A huge, more demonic version of the spiders in that movie would work.
:eek:
02-03-2011, 11:34 AM
IT's out to directors
Posted: February 3, 2011, 08:48:09
Section: TV » It (http://forums.superherohype.com/section.php?id=38)
Yesterday I spoke to David Kajganich and he told me something interesting about the remake of IT.
Apparently his script is currently out to directors, and some very interesting filmmakers have started talking to the studio. This can be a lengthy process, though, so there may not be more news about it for a couple of months but it's moving on as it should.
Carnotaur3
02-03-2011, 11:49 AM
IT's out to directors
Posted: February 3, 2011, 08:48:09
Section: TV » It (http://forums.superherohype.com/section.php?id=38)
Yesterday I spoke to David Kajganich and he told me something interesting about the remake of IT.
Apparently his script is currently out to directors, and some very interesting filmmakers have started talking to the studio. This can be a lengthy process, though, so there may not be more news about it for a couple of months but it's moving on as it should.
That is excellent news. I want to get that gig, btw.
Sawyer
02-03-2011, 03:44 PM
Between this and the news regarding the Stand, I've pretty much got full wood right now. My two favorite King novels. I just hope they dont get screwed up along the way.
GoblinWhirlwind
02-03-2011, 04:44 PM
^^^^ Speaking of The Stand, I just started it last night. IT has always been my favorite King novel, but I hear constantly how the Stand is his best.
Awesome news though, hopefully this project can start gaining ground soon. Can these next two years get any more epic?
The Demon's Head
06-19-2011, 03:53 AM
Did anyone else notice the similarities between Super 8 and IT?
Spider-ManHero12
06-19-2011, 07:22 AM
^^ Yeah, definitely. I mean, not 100%, but the similarities are there.
Secret Fawful
06-19-2011, 07:58 AM
Did anyone else notice the similarities between Super 8 and IT?
Sweet fassing fass, I thought the same thing! As soon as the kids went into the caves I said almost too loudly, "Holy sh-t! It's Stephen King's IT!"
Bubonic
06-19-2011, 11:33 AM
Even the alien is sort of spider-ish.
GoblinWhirlwind
06-19-2011, 02:57 PM
I kept thinking of IT too... immediately after I thought JJ Abrams would be perfect to direct IT. He really knows how to get the kid aspect down... I was thinking "The Loser's Club" the entire time.
Sawyer
08-08-2011, 07:31 PM
Dammit, why is this not making progress? :csad:
Serkis is a good one, but I'm still sticking with Giamatti. I dont know why, I just think he's got it in him...
Great choice!
It's been years since I've read the book, but wasn't the final confrontration with a giant spider anyways? I know it looked like **** in the original, but I'm pretty sure that's what it was supposed to look like to them. I thought it appeared as something that you feared. Could be wrong of course.
LOBO3315a
08-09-2011, 09:31 AM
Actually Pennywise's true form was incomprehensible to their minds, and all they could perceive it as was a spider. If they had conceived his true shape, it would have driven them insane.
CrimsonDeath
08-09-2011, 11:10 AM
I remember from the book that one persons see IT's true form and dies instantly.... another person remains in a catatonic state. H.P. Lovecraft mythos sort of thing.
The spider is the physical form it takes to feed. The clown and monster disguises because it makes it easier to scare the children that way, fill them with fear, and thus "salt the meat." Grown-ups' fears are too complex to be represented in a physical form. But if I had to fight a huge freaking monster devil spider entity of evil, that would be enough to drive me insane, but there is also a pseudo-mystical psychic fight between some of the characters and IT during the end.
Sawyer
08-09-2011, 11:09 PM
The thing I would want to see more of in a new adaptation isn't even so much concerning IT itself, but the more human ****ed up aspects of Derry. The gay bashing that lead to Adrian Mellon getting killed, Patrick Hocksetter, Henry Bowers' home life, etc.
Punisher Rising
08-09-2011, 11:58 PM
This remake could turn out good, but I don't think anyone can ever good as good a Pennywise as Tim Curry was. Still one of the scariest performances and characters ever, IMHO.
A Necessary Evil
08-10-2011, 12:25 AM
Not news about the new movie, but the original is getting a complete score release in october.
SuperBatman
08-10-2011, 01:29 AM
The Thing about It is that Tim Curry was the Perfect Pennywise. IDK who they will get to play him.
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Sawyer
08-10-2011, 01:42 AM
Curry being awesome notwithstanding, the rest of the miniseries was subpar.
rogue trooper
09-18-2011, 09:19 PM
I think Crispin Glover could be able to bring the appropriate creepiness to Pennywise.
Anyway, while this film is being produced, I'm looking foreward to having some cash for Christmas and purchase this: http://www.stephenking.com/promo/IT_25th/more_info.html
Balthus Dire
09-18-2011, 10:17 PM
I just finished the book not long ago and I think this film desperately needs to be remade. Like others, I think the biggest snag is how you trump Tim Curry as Pennywise, because he was simply brilliant in the role. I can't think of anyone else who could come close.
But other than Curry, the movie version was pretty mediocre compared to the book IMO. Some of the key scenes were good (Bev and the old woman, Pennywise in the sewer) but I think they could do a lot more with the film these days.
On another note, I personally wasn't crazy about the giant space-spider at the end of the book/film, but I thought the way it looked in the miniseries was pretty close to how I thought It might look. I just thought it was weird to have Pennywise as the sort of "main" form of It throughout the book, and then at the end battle there's no Pennywise at all but rather a giant random-ass spider. Creepy? Sure. But a little out of left-field, I thought.
Nightmare
09-18-2011, 10:44 PM
The Thing about It is that Tim Curry was the Perfect Pennywise. IDK who they will get to play him.
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Awesome video, Thanks for posting.
NotSoLongAgo
09-18-2011, 11:45 PM
Willem Dafoe would own this imo.
Hobgoblin
09-19-2011, 12:03 AM
I read IT a few years ago and thought it was good. I do like King's books but they never seem to be as good when they are made into films. I liked Pennywise in the book but he didnt have as much menace in the film, imo. Nothing against Tim Curry but a clown just isnt scary to me. It just looks silly. Sometimes a story should stay in a book.
GoblinWhirlwind
09-19-2011, 06:06 PM
I think the psychic battle needs to be left out of the movie, and they defeat IT purely by physical means... it has a physical form in this world and so it should be able to be killed in that way.
Sawyer
09-19-2011, 06:52 PM
The orgy stays, though. :o
:oldrazz:
Spider-Vader
09-19-2011, 09:12 PM
Pennywise wasn't scary, he's hilarious! If Pennywise doesn't act like a troll & have a scene like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3ZbnfXEuyc&feature=related
Then it will fail.
"Excuse me SUH! Do you have Prince Albert in a can? You DO?! Well ya better the poor guy out! WAHA WAHA WAHA WAHA!"
rogue trooper
09-19-2011, 11:52 PM
For director, I'd like to see either Frank Darabont or Guillermo Del Toro. Darabont has already done 4 Stephen King adaptations successfully, and Del Toro's Pan's Labyrinth and The Devil's Backbone are solid proof that he can effectively balance horror and tenderness, and do it through the point of view of children.
Spider-ManHero12
09-20-2011, 11:15 AM
Frank Darabont would be a golden choice for this. No doubt in my mind. :up:
jonathancrane
09-20-2011, 11:34 AM
My problem with the novel? Not the spider or the psychic battle, but the whole sex scene in the sewers. If that moment had been excised, the book would have been flawless.
However, if they do not include the "Derry Interludes" -- which would be a terrible loss -- I hope they will still retain Bill's flight to save Audra's life.http://youtu.be/gzVdrtOZSrA I love this scene.
Primal Slayer
09-20-2011, 11:57 AM
I was scared of the clown/pennywise as a child. But is this even still getting made? Seems like nothing has happened in forever.
Spider-ManHero12
09-20-2011, 12:07 PM
Yeah, it seems things have stalled. Unfortunate, if you ask me.
GoblinWhirlwind
09-20-2011, 04:44 PM
I could dig Guillermo del Toro or Darabont, but I think JJ Abrams would be great... he really got the kid aspect down in Super 8, and that's what's most important to me in IT. Without the kids really feeling like kids, without all the joking around between the horror, then it wouldn't be nearly as good. Directed by Abrams and produced by del Toro so he could still get some input.
Doctor Jones
09-20-2011, 05:30 PM
Christ, I even tried to watch the Nostalgia Critic's review of this film and I still couldn't do it.
rogue trooper
09-20-2011, 10:23 PM
It's been a while and I need to catch up. So, is it known yet if this remake will take place in the same timeline as in the novel, or will it be set in this present decade with the 1980's being the childhood period? Has there been recent word on that?
The Demon's Head
09-21-2011, 05:29 AM
Frank Darabont has to direct this movie.
Balthus Dire
09-22-2011, 02:30 PM
The sex scene in the sewers was the most random and insane thing ever. Even weirder that King uses "sexy" language and stuff in regards to a bunch of kids having a gang bang. It was so bizarre.
Mr. Wooden Alligator
09-22-2011, 02:53 PM
I'd rather Darabont get himself into Mid-World, since I haven;t heard anything about Ron Howard and the Dark Tower lately.
GoblinWhirlwind
09-22-2011, 05:18 PM
I wish they could get a King cinematic universe going, similiar to the MCU... so many of his books tie together, the movies should too. Get IT, Salem's Lot, The Stand, and then get the Dark Tower going.
jonathancrane
09-22-2011, 05:24 PM
I wish they could get a King cinematic universe going, similiar to the MCU... so many of his books tie together, the movies should too. Get IT, Salem's Lot, The Stand, and then get the Dark Tower going.
That would be terrific, but I doubt the box office returns would justify the maneuver. :csad:
Balthus Dire
09-22-2011, 07:33 PM
Sure they would if they did them properly and not totally half-assed. They are all fantastic stories that would adapt very well to films. They just usually don't get the care they deserve.
TheDragonator
09-22-2011, 07:38 PM
Someone tell Marx. :D
Thundarr
11-08-2011, 03:57 PM
I haven't really been following this thread much. Is this movie still being made? If so, when is it gonna come out? 2012? 2013? Will it be set in the 80's with the adults, and the kids' flashbacks are in the 50's? Or will they set it in modern times for the adults and have the kids be from the 80's? Who should be cast as the main characters? Here are my picks:
Christian Bale as Billy
Eddie Murphy as Mike
Jim Carrey as Richie
I don't know who should play Eddie, Stan, Ben and Bev. Anyone have any suggestions? I also don't know who should play Pennywise, Tim Curry is an awefully tough act to follow. Ron Perlman maybe? Or how about Christopher Walken? And I was thinking maybe Kiera Knightly as Audra, because she kinda reminds me of a young Olivia Hussey.
redhawk23
11-08-2011, 03:59 PM
Eddie Murphy and Jim Carrie would be way too old. Were they not both adults in the 80s? not 11 year old kids.
Thundarr
11-08-2011, 09:55 PM
Eddie Murphy and Jim Carrie would be way too old. Were they not both adults in the 80s? not 11 year old kids.
They were in their early/mid twenties, I believe. I think Eddie Murphy was about 24 when he joined the cast of SNL. And I think Jim Carrey was about the same age when he joined the cast of In Living Color.
But that's not the point. It's called ACTING. Both actors have aged extremely gracefully, and can easily play a character that is ten years their junior. Hell, most of the "teenagers" cast in slasher flicks are like 27. I chose them because they both are known names, who have proven themselves in both comedies and dramas. And they're old enough to look forty, without it looking like they're thirty year olds PLAYING forty (it's easier for a fifty year old to play a forty year old convincingly than it is for a thirty year old to).
Thundarr
11-08-2011, 10:29 PM
You're gonna lose A LOT of the book in a 2 and a half hour movie. The miniseries was decent, but it suffered because of the need to be network friendly. I think the book's adaptation would be best suited for Showtime or HBO, where a miniseries would be uninhibited by the censorship of violence, language and sex.
I don't think, though, that even SHO or HBO would allow the book's climactic sex romp between the children to be shown.
Maybe not shown, but certainly IMPLIED. Like the rape scene in A Time To Kill, or Hound Dog for example.
Or alternatively, it could be done in much the same way the ending shot in Sleepaway Camp was done. In that movie they got a very petite body double who was 18 or 19 at the time, glued a latex mask of Angela's face over his actual face, put a long black wig on him and then shot the scene in relatively low light. In this case, the foreplay would be done using the kids and they would strip down to their underwear. Then they will be replaced by very petite bod doubles who are all 18 or 19 years old. Any physical naked contact would be done by them. The close ups of the kids faces during orgasm or what have you is done with the kids not even touching each other. splice it all together in the editing room and it will look like the young stars are all having sex.
Also, I would like to point out that the movie KIDS had very graphic underage sex in it, and it was very well received by the public AND very well reviewed.
Thundarr
11-09-2011, 12:06 AM
The entire original movie is available on You Tube. Just watched it last Halloween. Here's the link . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fj8Ch-F9XU
I think they break it up into about 20 parts, each one 10 minutes long.
Doctor Jones
11-09-2011, 07:39 AM
So I braved and I watched, yes, I watched.... The Nostalgia Critic's Review of IT. And Pennywise still scares me. Though the funniness did get me through it.
jonathancrane
11-09-2011, 07:44 AM
Maybe not shown, but certainly IMPLIED. Like the rape scene in A Time To Kill, or Hound Dog for example.
Or alternatively, it could be done in much the same way the ending shot in Sleepaway Camp was done. In that movie they got a very petite body double who was 18 or 19 at the time, glued a latex mask of Angela's face over his actual face, put a long black wig on him and then shot the scene in relatively low light. In this case, the foreplay would be done using the kids and they would strip down to their underwear. Then they will be replaced by very petite bod doubles who are all 18 or 19 years old. Any physical naked contact would be done by them. The close ups of the kids faces during orgasm or what have you is done with the kids not even touching each other. splice it all together in the editing room and it will look like the young stars are all having sex.
Also, I would like to point out that the movie KIDS had very graphic underage sex in it, and it was very well received by the public AND very well reviewed.
Or, not use the scene at all. I agree with your arguments on how to utilize it, but they are contingent upon it being important for the overall narrative, whereas...it is not. It does nothing whatsoever for the plot. That is one part of the book I would not mind them ignoring; but, others, such as the Derry Interludes, I would prefer not.
redhawk23
11-09-2011, 08:38 AM
Acting or not, I wouldn't be able to buy Murphy especially as a child from the 80's.The man is 50 years old.
Spider-ManHero12
11-09-2011, 08:49 AM
So I braved and I watched, yes, I watched.... The Nostalgia Critic's Review of IT. And Pennywise still scares me. Though the funniness did get me through it. The Nolstalgia critic is awesome, lol.
Doctor Jones
11-09-2011, 08:57 AM
Haha, yeah his review was great.
The killer balloon was funny as hell.
GoblinWhirlwind
11-09-2011, 07:11 PM
Acting or not, I wouldn't be able to buy Murphy especially as a child from the 80's.The man is 50 years old.
What do you mean? They were kids in 58, they were all over 40 when they reunited in the 80's.
But for Mike I think Don Cheadle would be great. Bruce Campbell for Richie, and Amy Adams for Bev. Not sure on the rest.
Spider-Vader
11-09-2011, 08:09 PM
I don't get it, what's so scary about Pennywise? Are you just scared of clowns in general?
I find Pennywise hilarious. He's the ultimate troll, the Library scene proves it.
Thundarr
11-09-2011, 08:27 PM
Acting or not, I wouldn't be able to buy Murphy especially as a child from the 80's.The man is 50 years old.
Did you buy him as a 750 pound genetics expert in The Nutty Professor? Or how about as his own mother, father, brother, nephew, and grandmother in the same movie? And guess what? He's not ACTUALLY 750 pounds! Or a woman! Or an overweight 13 year old boy! Hell, he's not even a genetics expert!
How about in the movie Life, with Martin Lawrence? Near the end, did you buy him as a 90 year old convict? Guess what? He's not ACTUALLY 90 years old either!
The actor in question doesn't actually have to BE 42 years old to play the 42 year old version of his character. He just has to LOOK like he could be 42 years old. Both Eddie Murphy and Jim Carrey LOOK like they could be in their 40's. And they both have the acting chops to pull off the performance.
Sawyer
11-09-2011, 08:33 PM
Using ****ty movies to prove your point isn't really helping your argument.
Thundarr
11-09-2011, 08:43 PM
What do you mean? They were kids in 58, they were all over 40 when they reunited in the 80's.
But for Mike I think Don Cheadle would be great. Bruce Campbell for Richie, and Amy Adams for Bev. Not sure on the rest.
Don Cheadle's a pretty good choice for mike. I'm just kinda sad that Eddie Murphy's career has tanked, and would hope that starring as Mike in the IT remake might revitalize it. Besides, as I wrote above, he has done drama and action as well as comedy and can play it straight very well.
As for Ben, how about Jerry O'Connel? It would actually be kinda poetic, the guy who played the fat kid in Stand By Me (based on the Stephen King short story The Body) would be playing the adult version of the fat kid from The Losers Club in Stephen King's IT. Only real problem I think is that he looks a lot younger than he really is.
danoyse
11-09-2011, 08:59 PM
Maybe not shown, but certainly IMPLIED. Like the rape scene in A Time To Kill, or Hound Dog for example.
Or alternatively, it could be done in much the same way the ending shot in Sleepaway Camp was done. In that movie they got a very petite body double who was 18 or 19 at the time, glued a latex mask of Angela's face over his actual face, put a long black wig on him and then shot the scene in relatively low light. In this case, the foreplay would be done using the kids and they would strip down to their underwear. Then they will be replaced by very petite bod doubles who are all 18 or 19 years old. Any physical naked contact would be done by them. The close ups of the kids faces during orgasm or what have you is done with the kids not even touching each other. splice it all together in the editing room and it will look like the young stars are all having sex.
Also, I would like to point out that the movie KIDS had very graphic underage sex in it, and it was very well received by the public AND very well reviewed.
That sex scene in IT will never make it into a movie version. It never should have been in the book either, come to think of it.
I'm sure there are million other ways to get the kids out of the sewer than having a group of 11-year-olds boys each have sex with an 11-year-old girl. It never made sense, it was just bizarre, and it gets creepier to read the older I get.
I'm a huge Stephen King fan, but I never understood what the hell he was thinking when he thought that scene was a good idea.
Thundarr
11-09-2011, 09:00 PM
Using ****ty movies to prove your point isn't really helping your argument.
I'm not talking about the quality of the movies as a whole. Personally I found them to be rather lame myself. What I'm talking about is the quality of the make up and visual effects, and Eddie Murphy's acting skill.
The Nutty Professor is far from Eddie's best work, I whole heartedly agree. But the dinner scene where Eddie was playing the ENTIRE Klump family was really well done. And all the scenes where Eddie was done up to look like a fat man, he genuinely looked like he was fat.
And Life I found to be a total snoozer. But in the end when Eddie and Martin were 90 year old convicts, the make up and acting was so well done you almost believe that the actors had actually aged that much.
If he can believably play a 750 pound fat guy, or a 90 year old fart, then he can certainly believably play a character who's only ten years his junior. Just add a little hair colouring, or wash some out (depending on the situation) and let the man do his thing.
Sawyer
11-09-2011, 09:43 PM
That sex scene in IT will never make it into a movie version. It never should have been in the book either, come to think of it.
I'm sure there are million other ways to get the kids out of the sewer than having a group of 11-year-olds boys each have sex with an 11-year-old girl. It never made sense, it was just bizarre, and it gets creepier to read the older I get.
I'm a huge Stephen King fan, but I never understood what the hell he was thinking when he thought that scene was a good idea.
As much as I love King, he seems to have at least one scene per book that's there solely to elicit a response of: "Why the hell would you write that?!"
Trashcan Man being sodomized by a gun comes to mind for The Stand.
danoyse
11-09-2011, 09:49 PM
As much as I love King, he seems to have at least one scene per book that's there solely to elicit a response of: "Why the hell would you write that?!"
Trashcan Man being sodomized by a gun comes to mind for The Stand.
That would be another WTH moment by King as well. Not to mention the entire setting of Gerald's Game. :doh:
I still think the most disturbing moment in IT was when Patrick Hockstetter suffocated his baby brother. I read the book again right after my nephew was born, and that was just awful to read.
GoblinWhirlwind
11-10-2011, 06:12 PM
Don Cheadle's a pretty good choice for mike. I'm just kinda sad that Eddie Murphy's career has tanked, and would hope that starring as Mike in the IT remake might revitalize it. Besides, as I wrote above, he has done drama and action as well as comedy and can play it straight very well.
As for Ben, how about Jerry O'Connel? It would actually be kinda poetic, the guy who played the fat kid in Stand By Me (based on the Stephen King short story The Body) would be playing the adult version of the fat kid from The Losers Club in Stephen King's IT. Only real problem I think is that he looks a lot younger than he really is.
Come to think of it, I remember someone suggesting Ed Norton for Ben... I actually like that quite a bit.
What about Patrick Wilson for Bill? He already has a pretty high forehead :hehe:
Mr. Wooden Alligator
11-10-2011, 07:20 PM
That would be another WTH moment by King as well. Not to mention the entire setting of Gerald's Game. :doh:
I still think the most disturbing moment in IT was when Patrick Hockstetter suffocated his baby brother. I read the book again right after my nephew was born, and that was just awful to read.
Patrick is one of the sickest characters I've read of in any of the King novels i've read.
Henry's dad was scary, too. The way he acted made me feel sympathy for Henry even as I disliked him for the way he treated the Losers and Ben.
Thundarr
11-11-2011, 04:34 AM
Come to think of it, I remember someone suggesting Ed Norton for Ben... I actually like that quite a bit.
What about Patrick Wilson for Bill? He already has a pretty high forehead :hehe:
Ed Norton for Ben? I might be able to see that.
Don't know about Patrick Wilson for Bill though. While I have yet to read the book, in the made for TV movie Bill was always the good looking one in the group. Patrick Wilson is a decent enough actor, but I think he'd be better suited to play Stan.
So how's this for casting?
Mike: Don Cheadle
http://cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/104458292.jpg
Bill: Christian Bale
http://www.cutehotguys.com/30099-1/Handsome+English+actor+Christian+Bale+picture+_69_ .jpg
Bev: Jennifer Connelly
http://www.netbrawl.com/uploads/30d641877bec1503e039eb12ee59fecc.jpg
Ritchie: Jim Carrey
http://siamfoundation.org/movies/uploaded_images/Jim_Carrey-Pierre-Pierre-771282.jpg
Ben: Jerry O'Connell
http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Cinema+Society+MCM+Host+Screening+Obsessed+7G4_Ypm Dy9Jl.jpg
Eddie: Edward Norton
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_X6Isw4ybb4U/Sq9Q0i6WZ0I/AAAAAAAAq7M/8Kedv72hm0U/s400/Actor+Edward+Norton+from+the+film+%27Leaves+Of+Gra ss%27+poses+for+a+portrait+during+the+2009+Toronto +International+Film+Festival+at+The+Sutton+Place+H otel+on+September+14,+2009+in+Toronto,+Canada.jpg
Stan: Patrick Wilson
http://www.sliceofscifi.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/patrick-wilson.jpg
Audra: Keira Knightly
http://im.in.com/connect/images/profile/oct2009/Keira_Knightley_300.jpg
Pennywise The Dancing Clown: Gary Oldman
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6TiL2Z1IDz4/Sd12UzyItaI/AAAAAAAAEpY/75A_vS3-Gnw/s400/gary-oldman.jpg
Thundarr
11-12-2011, 06:01 AM
Bump!
GoldGoblin
11-13-2011, 06:35 PM
Are they gonna start filming soon?
Sawyer
11-13-2011, 07:46 PM
Uhh, seeing as how this doesn't even have a concrete director or a cast, it doesn't seem likely.
Spider-ManHero12
11-13-2011, 09:21 PM
I'm starting to doubt it will happen any time soon.
GoblinWhirlwind
11-14-2011, 07:10 PM
Ed Norton for Ben? I might be able to see that.
Don't know about Patrick Wilson for Bill though. While I have yet to read the book, in the made for TV movie Bill was always the good looking one in the group. Patrick Wilson is a decent enough actor, but I think he'd be better suited to play Stan.
So how's this for casting?
Mike: Don Cheadle
Bill: Christian Bale
Bev: Jennifer Conolly
Ritchie: Jim Carrey
Ben: Jerry O'Connel
Eddie: Edward Norton
Stan: Patrick Wilson
Pennywise The Dancing Clown: Gary Oldman
Well, for Bill I was going from the book, not the tv movie.
Anyway, do not like Richie's casting, but Gary Oldman as Pennywise? That could really be something there :up:
Rocketman
11-14-2011, 10:58 PM
Sacha Baron Cohen as Pennywise?
A Necessary Evil
11-14-2011, 11:00 PM
No.
SuperBatman
11-15-2011, 12:12 AM
I don't get it, what's so scary about Pennywise? Are you just scared of clowns in general?
I find Pennywise hilarious. He's the ultimate troll, the Library scene proves it.
What's Scary about him. He's Played by tim Curry how much scary can u get? I really think they could get him again to play . Maybe as the Voice and have somebody play the Actor
A Necessary Evil
11-15-2011, 12:55 AM
Speaking of "It"
intrada just released the soundtrack to the original TV movie.
Anyone else grabbing this?
Thundarr
11-15-2011, 07:39 AM
Well, for Bill I was going from the book, not the tv movie.
Anyway, do not like Richie's casting, but Gary Oldman as Pennywise? That could really be something there :up:
Since Ritchie grows up to become a stand up comic/actor, I thought it best he be played by someone who is a stand up comic/actor. Jim Carrey is very accomplished in both comedy and drama, so I think he would do the role justice. But who would you suggest?
Whiskey Tango
11-15-2011, 08:09 AM
Jason Lee.
Thundarr
11-15-2011, 08:51 AM
Jason Lee.
Jim Carrey is a funnier comedian and a better actor, imo. However Jason Lee would require a much smaller paycheck.
Thundarr
11-15-2011, 08:53 AM
I'm starting to doubt it will happen any time soon.
If t happens at all, it'll likely come out in 2013.
Thundarr
11-15-2011, 09:26 AM
Well, for Bill I was going from the book, not the tv movie.
Anyway, do not like Richie's casting, but Gary Oldman as Pennywise? That could really be something there :up:
The man is so damn good at playing creepy. Plus, I understand that he also has a fairly quirky sense of humor. Which makes him doubly well suited to play Pennywise, in my book. If anyone can fill Tim Curry's big red clown shoes, it would be him.
Whiskey Tango
11-15-2011, 11:22 AM
Jim Carrey is a funnier comedian and a better actor, imo. However Jason Lee would require a much smaller paycheck.
No offense but having Carrey, Bale and Ed Norton in your list sets off my Totally Unrealistic Fan Casting alarm. Lee easily has the mouth to play a stand-up comic and you'd be a lot more likely to see him in this than Jim Carrey.
In the end Lee is just a fancast too but I like to try and make them somewhat plausible.
Carnotaur3
11-15-2011, 12:23 PM
Speaking of "It"
intrada just released the soundtrack to the original TV movie.
Anyone else grabbing this?
Awesome. The score was amazingly atmospheric and creepy.
redhawk23
11-15-2011, 02:41 PM
Seeing Jason Lee and Jerry OConnel's names brought up kind of made me laugh as they've both played characters in King-based movies.
In the case of Lee he was playing the adult version of a child character.
Spider-ManHero12
11-15-2011, 08:24 PM
Speaking of "It"
intrada just released the soundtrack to the original TV movie.
Anyone else grabbing this? Now that you mention it, I might. I didn't even know it was released.
Thundarr
11-16-2011, 06:03 AM
No offense but having Carrey, Bale and Ed Norton in your list sets off my Totally Unrealistic Fan Casting alarm. Lee easily has the mouth to play a stand-up comic and you'd be a lot more likely to see him in this than Jim Carrey.
In the end Lee is just a fancast too but I like to try and make them somewhat plausible.
Most movies have at least two major stars cast in lead roles. Ed Norton AND Brad Pitt in Fight Club. Brad Pitt AND Tom Cruise in Interview With The Vampire. Ed Norton AND Anthony Hopkins in Red Dragon. And let's not forget practically THE ENTIRE CAST of The Expendables.
So a cast of eight or nine actors to play the leads in a movie, where most of them are well known and highly respected and two or three of them are major stars isn't all that unrealistic.
Thundarr
11-16-2011, 06:13 AM
Seeing Jason Lee and Jerry O'Connell's names brought up kind of made me laugh as they've both played characters in King-based movies.
In the case of Lee he was playing the adult version of a child character.
Jason Lee was in a Stephen King movie? Which one?
And part of the reason I suggested Jerry O'Connell as Ben is because of his role in Stand By Me. I thought it would be kinda poetic for him to play the adult version of the fat kid of The Losers Club in IT after having played the fat kid in Stand By Me.
TwoOfAKind
11-16-2011, 06:20 AM
Jason Lee was in Dreamcatcher Thundarr.
Whiskey Tango
11-16-2011, 06:47 AM
most movies have at least two major stars cast in lead roles. Ed norton and brad pitt in fight club. Brad pitt and tom cruise in interview with the vampire. Ed norton and anthony hopkins in red dragon. And let's not forget practically the entire cast of the expendables.
So a cast of eight or nine actors to play the leads in a movie, where most of them are well known and highly respected and two or three of them are major stars isn't all that unrealistic.
lol ok
Thundarr
11-16-2011, 07:01 AM
Jason Lee was in Dreamcatcher Thundarr.
Ah! That explains why I was unaware of that. Dreamcatcher is one of the few Stephen King movies I haven't seen.
A Necessary Evil
11-20-2011, 08:08 PM
Original Score for the TV series has been released.
http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7329/.f
Spider-ManHero12
11-20-2011, 09:56 PM
Nice. :up:
Thundarr
11-21-2011, 07:34 AM
Original Score for the TV series has been released.
http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7329/.f
That news was already posted earlier in this thread, but thanks.
kaypain
11-21-2011, 10:51 AM
I was confused as hell with the original at the end. I was like wtf, a giant spider, you have to take a slingshot and flick some damn silver piece at it??? I'm like who the hell wrote this?????
Thundarr
11-21-2011, 07:11 PM
I was confused as hell with the original at the end. I was like wtf, a giant spider, you have to take a slingshot and flick some damn silver piece at it??? I'm like who the hell wrote this?????
Answer: Stephen King :hehe:
But seriously, I wasn't a huge fan of the giant spider either. But the silver did make sense. "IT" was only really visible to someone who believes in the unimaginable. Children who are taught to believe in Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy, etc, etc, etc, are especially vulnerable to "IT". But that works both ways. A kid who watches monster movies and knows all the monster movie lore, and BELIEVES that real monsters can be killed in the same way, then shooting it with silver will kill "IT".
Although, tbh, it probably would have made more sense if Mike had bought a gun and a home bullet making kit. Then over the last thirty years buy up any silver jewelry at the pawn shop and melt it down to make silver bullets. Maybe even make silver buckshot and have a 12 gauge shotgun as well. That's what I would have done in his place anyway.
Brodie83
01-08-2012, 09:45 PM
Alright, since I'm a HUGE fan of the book and the movie (obviously the book is MUCH better than the movie), I figured I'd follow this thread...it's actually the best thread on the subject that I've found so far. So yeah, I spent a decent amount of time today thinking about the casting of the HOPEFULLY upcoming remake, and here's what I have...
Young Bill - Colin Ford
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g18/supertrick_05/BillyoungColinFord.jpg
Old Bill - Aaron Eckhart
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g18/supertrick_05/BilloldAaronEckhart.jpg
Young Bev - Chloe Grace Moretz
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g18/supertrick_05/BevyoungChloeGraceMoretz.jpg
Old Bev - Denise Richards
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g18/supertrick_05/BevoldDeniseRichards.jpg
Young Ben - Robert Capron
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g18/supertrick_05/BenyoungRobertCapron.jpg
Old Ben - Matt Damon
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g18/supertrick_05/BenoldMattDamon.jpg
Young Stan - Ryan Ochoa
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g18/supertrick_05/StanyoungRyanOchoa.jpg
Old Stan - Bob Sagat
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g18/supertrick_05/Stanold.jpg
Brodie83
01-08-2012, 09:46 PM
Young Mike - Jaden Smith
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g18/supertrick_05/MikeyoungJadenSmith.jpg
Old Mike - Will Smith
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g18/supertrick_05/MikeoldWillSmith.jpg
Young Eddie - Alex Ferris
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g18/supertrick_05/EddieyoungAlexFerris.jpg
Old Eddie - Peter Facinelli
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g18/supertrick_05/PeterFacinelli1.jpg
and last but not least,
Pennywise - Robert Downey Jr.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g18/supertrick_05/ITRobertDowneyJR.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g18/supertrick_05/ITRobertDowneyJR2.jpg
Brodie83
01-08-2012, 10:07 PM
The reason I chose Robert Downy Jr. is because he's a brilliant actor who can change his voice to many different accents/tones, and he definitely can have that "evil Pennywise" look. And look at that first picture of him above...if that isn't a Pennywise smile, I don't know what is. I truely believe that RDJ could pull Pennywise off perfectly!
Bats123
01-08-2012, 10:42 PM
I lol´d at "Mike", but its good, dont know about Downey though, he´s a good actor but I dont think he could pull it off.
Sawyer
06-07-2012, 09:53 PM
Will be adapted into two films by Cary Fukunaga (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/stephen-kings-be-adapted-by-334899)
Crosswind Ghost
06-07-2012, 10:56 PM
Yess!! About time. Automatically jumps to most anticipated!
Rocketman
06-07-2012, 11:03 PM
Don't get your hopes up. This'll probably fall apart next week.
Crosswind Ghost
06-07-2012, 11:07 PM
It's been announced once before. Lets hope it finally takes off. It's so due.
Carnotaur3
06-07-2012, 11:30 PM
This is a first it's been announced with a director. Hope should stay up!
Crosswind Ghost
06-07-2012, 11:57 PM
Since directors usually use actors they've already worked with, i think it's safe to use such indications on who might be possibility cast. I'll be the first to suggest Micheal Fassbender as Bill, i know he's not the perfect choice as far as resemblance to the book goes, but he would take the lead protagonist role with stride. Plus he would add somewhat of a draw.
Balthus Dire
06-08-2012, 01:26 AM
I'm wondering how the two films thing will work: one adult, one kids? Hmmmm...
Nightmare
06-08-2012, 11:32 AM
Sounds about right. Wonder if it will be more 'scary'.
Balthus Dire
06-08-2012, 02:13 PM
Any casting ideas for Pennywise? I can't even begin to fathom who could replace Tim Curry.
Eddie Dean
06-08-2012, 02:33 PM
Paul Giamatti as Pennywise
childeroland
06-08-2012, 03:06 PM
That's a great idea.
Fukunaga's Jane Eyre was one of the best films of 2011, so hopefully this will work out.
Balthus Dire
06-08-2012, 03:15 PM
Paul Giamatti as Pennywise
Wow I would actually really dig that.
EML420
06-08-2012, 03:29 PM
Great to hear they got a director and a decent one but man so many King movies Dark Tower(?) The Stand, Carrie and The Reach and theres another one.
amazingfantasy15
06-08-2012, 04:07 PM
I just hope they change the ending for the kid's portion, that was just creepy in the book. Doubt the could even get away with it on screen though.
childeroland
06-08-2012, 04:08 PM
Yeah, there's no way.
GoldGoblin
06-10-2012, 12:38 PM
When will the first movie be out?
A Necessary Evil
06-10-2012, 11:57 PM
We have like .01% news on this movie.
Who knows.
Balthus Dire
06-11-2012, 12:05 AM
I just hope they change the ending for the kid's portion, that was just creepy in the book. Doubt the could even get away with it on screen though.
When I got to that part in the book I was like :eek:
Octoberist
06-11-2012, 12:40 AM
Gary Oldman would be a great Pennywise
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