Thor's costume

[Webhead2006]

he is a bit bigger check out http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=17823616&postcount=621 from the news thread.

[RogueDK]

he is a bit bigger check out http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=17823616&postcount=621 from the news thread.
Thanks for the link.

Yeah, he looks a tad on the bigger side but not Thor big. I realize that I might sound nitpicky but from those pics, he just looks like a tall, wiry kid that works out. It could also be the clothes that he's wearing in those pics that's throwing me off.
I know expecting what I see in the comics is a far stretch for live action fare but it's going to take a few more protein shakes to achieve a doable effect for Thor's bulky physique.

Perhaps once Chris is in costume, that might change for me.

[Chewy]

I realize that I might sound nitpicky but from those pics, he just looks like a tall, wiry kid that works out.
:dry:

[Chris Wallace]

That's pretty much my criticism of it. Dont get me wrong, I enjoyed vol. 1 and 2 of the Ultimates immensely, but I've never at any point thought 'that's better than 616'.

I can see why they've chosen something to be a certain way, or have a certain look, but I'm too much of a traditionalist to say 'yeah, that's the way to go'.

I'm not that much of a traditionalist, generally speaking. I go on a case-by-case basis. I can see the reason for taking Batman & the X-Men out of spandex for the sake of film, but I wouldn't want them to go that route for Spider-Man or Superman. I can understand why they would change Blade's powers or give Spider-Man organic webbing but doing something like that to Thor would be unforgiveable. I basically embrace changes that don't hurt my enjoyment of the film & aren't SO far-removed from the source material that I can't recognize it.

[RogueDK]

:dry:
Sorry that I don't see those pics like you supposedly do. Not everyone will be on one accord with them...


At the same time, I'm not condemning the process. :whatever:

The final aesthetic might look better to be fair.

[Webhead2006]

no problem rouge, sure it would be great if thor was a super muscle bound dude. But then we get into the case of hiring a bodybuilder who could have no acting cred and all that.

[NoirMan82]

Chris Hemsworth has more of a "swimmer's body" physique. He builds lots of lean muscle and a very defined chest, shoulder, and neck area. Unfortunately, his body type doesn't allow him to pack on Thor-like mass. I think he'll be super cut, but he will not build huge muscles no matter how much he works out. That said, he still looks good. I didn't think he was as tall as he looks in those photos.

[Brian Braddock]

He's like 6'4'' or something, which is just 2" short of Thor's actual height.

He may not be a mass monster per se, but a 6'4'' guy with a build like that will come across as imposing on the big screen. Especially alongside co-stars who are of average height and build.

[HUMANIMAL]

Chris Hemsworth has more of a "swimmer's body" physique. He builds lots of lean muscle and a very defined chest, shoulder, and neck area. Unfortunately, his body type doesn't allow him to pack on Thor-like mass. I think he'll be super cut, but he will not build huge muscles no matter how much he works out.
alot of fast food and some creatine will help;-)

[marcvader]

In the pics, whenever they were taken, he looks as big as Routh was for Superman and am sure he'll get even a bit bigger before actual shooting begins.

[Chris Wallace]

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[Chris Wallace]

The actor not having the muscle is hardly an issue. Did you see Reeve when he was first cast as Superman? Tobey or Bale when they were first cast? They were patehtic. And even so, you have to expect that what you get on film will NEVER truly match up to how they're drawn in the comic. Look at Batman:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/SteveoDestructo/batman_jim_lee_art_2.jpghttp://i431.photobucket.com/albums/qq37/ednilsonpa/Batman_bale_small.jpg

[[A]]

But Bale got HUGE for Batman Begins. Too big, actually.

[Chris Wallace]

;17839889']But Bale got HUGE for Batman Begins. Too big, actually.

Not really.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/peter123_010/BATMAN%20BEGINS/batman-begins-20050526092932483.jpg
And here's some more examples:
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd183/CYCLONE_06rt/My%20Artwork/WolverineColored.jpghttp://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p106/protosyke/magnetolee.jpghttp://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k226/dbr_comics/A%20to%20C/AmazingSpiderMan_316.jpghttp://i460.photobucket.com/albums/qq322/ploogblog/julho%202009/batman-superman-public-enemies.jpghttp://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu1/SuperDragonKelvin/152223-81032-blade_super.gif
Comic book anatomy is deliberately exaggerated. Many of these physiques don't even exist in the real world, & if they could find someone who matched it, he probably wouldn't be able to act worth a damn. As long as they get someone fit who looks good in the costume & can do justice to the part, we should be able to forgive a few inches of bicep.

[Webhead2006]

well spider-man does seem to be the one that isnt overall huge since he is just a regular size guy at 5'8-5'10 tall and is a buff guy but no where in the supes/bats range.

[Ace of Knaves]

Hemsworth looks like a linebacker. That's big enough. He is 6'4, and with that build he is EASILY at least 230-250 lbs.

[Webhead2006]

Probably so ace i just cant wait to see what thor's look is.

[RogueDK]

no problem rouge, sure it would be great if thor was a super muscle bound dude. But then we get into the case of hiring a bodybuilder who could have no acting cred and all that.
Yeah, I know...it almost makes me lament that guys aspiring to be wrestlers, aren't made to take acting lessons as a prerequisite....

...oh, wait... :doh::hehe:

I'll just wait to see this guy in full Thor garb in the coming weeks.

[Ace of Knaves]

:funny: The acting in wrestling reminds me of those shoddy pantomimes they have at Christmas. With the whole "He's behind you!" thing.

[Chris Wallace]

well spider-man does seem to be the one that isnt overall huge since he is just a regular size guy at 5'8-5'10 tall and is a buff guy but no where in the supes/bats range.

Spidey is drawn rather buff for the dimensions he's listed at (5'10", 165 lbs) but I actually posted that image to display the exaggeration of Venom's physique.


http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e353/6MolloW9/Comic%20Lot%20Pix/VenomLethalProtector1NM.jpghttp://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e353/6MolloW9/Comic%20Lot%20Pix/VenomLethalProtector2NM.jpghttp://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e353/6MolloW9/Comic%20Lot%20Pix/VenomLethalProtector4NM.jpghttp://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e353/6MolloW9/Comic%20Lot%20Pix/VenomLethalProtector5NM.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u30/Cryptkiller15/Venom/venom-spiderman.jpg

[Webhead2006]

pics not working

[SpiderByte]

I'd like to see the Ultimate look, but not have the plates glow, or the hammer as an axe.

[bossman550]

:barf:

[Keyser Soze]

:funny: The acting in wrestling reminds me of those shoddy pantomimes they have at Christmas. With the whole "He's behind you!" thing.

Eh, I wouldn't be TOO hard on the acting of wrestling. It's a different style, of course, one that deals in archetypes and the larger-than-life. So yes, you do get a lot of heightened, over-the-top stuff, both in the talking segments and of course in the physical acting during the matches. But that's just the language of the artform - if you want to call it that - and while there are plenty of wrestlers (more and more in this age) with all the natural charisma of a goldfish, every so often you get something like this:

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[antmanx68]

http://comicspassion.unblog.fr/files/2009/01/thor600dellotto.jpg

This.

[TheWatcher]

^^^^ I Second That!

[Spider-Vader]

I third it. Modern costume is the BEST Thor costume. I think it'd work well on the big-screen.

I don't care if Hemsworth isn't as muscular as the comic Thor. That'd look ridiculous on a real live human.

[RogueDK]

http://comicspassion.unblog.fr/files/2009/01/thor600dellotto.jpg

This.
That look is pretty much WIN. :word:

[TheCorpulent1]

The only problem I see with the Coipel costume is that the scalemail around the arms and legs don't hold a shape in real life, so Thor might look like he's bundled up. But they could always take the scalemail off his arms and replace it with cloth or something on his legs. The main part of the costume is the tunic design over the torso, which would be perfect for film. :up:

[The_Mighty_Thor]

For a hollywood costume the could put some light or even fake chain mail on a spandex sleeve and it would become form fitting and almost look like the current costume.

[Webhead2006]

I would be down with this look for movie. Cant wait for first image/set photo of costume comes in.

[antmanx68]

I've thought a lot about the problem with chainmail, and ultimately I don't think it would have to be form fitting. I think it might even give him some more "size" from a visual standpoint to have armored sleeves. Maybe something that's kind of a hybrid of scale and chain. If it were up to me he'd definitely have this sort of thing going on in the beginning of the movie:

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2486/gimc.jpg


and then ditch the armored sleeves by the end. It makes sense to me that he'd be scaling back on some of the more "viking" elements of the costume and be more of just a superhero looks-wise (but NOT the Ultimates costume)

[Webhead2006]

probably so, i hope the costumer designers went through multi designs/tests, and see what looks good, and what works best on chris's body.

[RogueDK]

For a hollywood costume the could put some light or even fake chain mail on a spandex sleeve and it would become form fitting and almost look like the current costume.
Exactly what I was thinking. A fake chainmail look would/could also be less cumbersome with the long shoots that Hemsworth might have in costume as opposed to wearing the actual material.
Then it would contour more accordingly as it does in the comics.
I would think...

[Chris Wallace]

I could live with that look, combined with the "Ultimate" boots.

[SpiderByte]

I think the hammer should be some sort of Asgardian metal, but have the Copiel hammer shape.

[Aesop Rocks]

In Avengers: Disassembled, Thors Arc, we got a great in-sight into the hammer being made.

[marcvader]

For a hollywood costume the could put some light or even fake chain mail on a spandex sleeve and it would become form fitting and almost look like the current costume.
That sounds cheesy to me. I'd like them to keep the design asthetics realistic, like in Lord of the Rings. Fine to make things out of plastic or light weight but they should still look like they hold normal properties.

[TheFuture]

Sorry for being lazy and if it has already been mentioned, but do people think he should have the same exact costume in Thor and The Avengers? I honestly thing that they should give him a traditional look in Thor, and a more Ultimates style costume in The Avengers. I hope for this because Iron Man's suit looks great on screen, Captain America's costume can look great depending on what costume they go with, but I fear that Thor's traditional garb won't translate well to present day surroundings.

[R_Hythlodeus]

I don't care. He's a f%&$ god after all, he has all rights to look however he wants.

[Webhead2006]

i dont see why he would be changed at all for avengers film. Heck if im is going to be roughly the same, and if hulk is in there in any way, i dont see why thor's look would be to crazy at all.

[TheFuture]

i dont see why he would be changed at all for avengers film. Heck if im is going to be roughly the same, and if hulk is in there in any way, i dont see why thor's look would be to crazy at all.

Because the setting doesn't change for Iron Man or Hulk. However for Thor, he's going from one setting where he's not out of place, to a setting where he sticks out like a sore thumb. But maybe that's the idea they are going for anyway. :O

[R_Hythlodeus]

Because the setting doesn't change for Iron Man or Hulk. However for Thor, he's going from one setting where he's not out of place, to a setting where he sticks out like a sore thumb. But maybe that's the idea they are going for anyway. :O

As far as I know, a lot of Thor will happen in Midgard. At least that's what the rumors indicate

[TheFuture]

As far as I know, a lot of Thor will happen in Midgard. At least that's what the rumors indicate

Really? Last I heard they were only going to do the end of the film on earth in order to set up for The Avengers.

[R_Hythlodeus]

well, we know for sure that the female lead character will be jane foster and rumors say that skarsgaards character will be a college professor. It sounds like very much midgard

[Chris Wallace]

Because the setting doesn't change for Iron Man or Hulk. However for Thor, he's going from one setting where he's not out of place, to a setting where he sticks out like a sore thumb. But maybe that's the idea they are going for anyway. :O
A god can't blend in with mere mortals, and shouldn't want to. And again, the Ultimates look is all wrong IMO because it looks mechanical; man-made.

[TheCorpulent1]

For reals. People get too hung up on Thor "sticking out" among his fellow superheroes. Let him. He's a god; he shouldn't care about being fashionable.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

How does Thor stick out like a sore thumb???? Seriously if you call yourself Spiderman you get a costume with a spider motif, if you call yourself Batman you get a costume with a bat motif, If you call yourself Antman you get a costume with a bug motif, if you call yourself Iron man you get an armored costume motif, if you call yourself Captian America you get a stars and stripes motif and if you call yourself Thor you get viking warrior/god motif! I don't see any of these guys blending in anywhere, not even with each other and I don't see Thor sticking out any more than the rest of them. Of course if he does that's fine. He is far better and far above the rest of them, he should stick out!:p

[Chris Wallace]

Your argument is rooted in the Avengers not having a team uniform. They shouldn't. The FF have a team uniform. The X-Men have/had some semblance of a team uniform. But that's not the Avengers. One of the many problems that I had w/the Ultimates is that they tried to homogenize the Avengers' appearance, make them more "believable" & borrowed too much from the movie X-Men.

[Webhead2006]

yea there is no need for the team to be wearing the same stuff. we got ironman in metal suits, then we got hulk, then we have thor, only guys i could see wearing anything simular to each other is fury/hawkeye/black widow for shield members.

[Chris Wallace]

Hawkeye? He's got one of the coolest costumes ever.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff94/Zaraxion1021/Marvel/Hawkeye.jpg
It may or may not translate well but I sure as hell don't want to see him looking like a SHIELD crony. Nor do I want to see him in this.
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww273/LEEE777/GARRETT-HEDLUND-ULTIMATE-HAWKEYE-LE.jpg

[Spider-Vader]

Hell yeah! I don't want to see Clint as a SHIELD crony either, though I'm fine with something similar to the Ultimate costume. Since his classic (but great) costume won't translate well to the big screen.

[Chris Wallace]

I hate the bullseye on his forehead more than anything else. Particularly since it's taken.
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk108/Molliewobbles/bullseye5.jpghttp://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp228/messiahsjedi/Marvel%20Movies/ddpreview2b.jpg
Maybe they could blend the two?
EDIT: And no guns!!

[Aesop Rocks]

This is how I want to see Thor.

http://i48.tinypic.com/fna4cx.jpg

[Chris Wallace]

Right mix of Nordic & modern-day superhero.

[Aesop Rocks]

were you agreeing? :o

[Triad]

I know that I do.

[TheCorpulent1]

Dell'otto screwed up the costume design a bit by having the torso be covered in that weird square mail that's usually only on Thor's arms and legs, but it's a good pic otherwise.

[Drz]

Regarding the news on the cape: I hope it's going to have fur and stuff. I don't think i personally would dig Thor having a cloak that would "indiciate" he's a superhero.. Something like what Coipel's Odin and Balder had... Then again that was fur... Maybe Dragonscale for Thor? <3

[TheCorpulent1]

A cloth cape is fine for me. Auburn fur on the top would be cool, but Thor's current costume works fine without fur in the comics.

[Drz]

I don't know, i just got this thing againts his cloak for some unknown reason lol.

[Chris Wallace]

A cloth cape is fine for me. Auburn fur on the top would be cool, but Thor's current costume works fine without fur in the comics.

I like cloth, don't think fur would look right. Anyone got a pic from when they got transported to that alternate reality & he did have a fur cape?

[Webhead2006]

really cant wait to see first costume photo.

[RogueDK]

A cloth cape is fine for me. Auburn fur on the top would be cool, but Thor's current costume works fine without fur in the comics.
No fur on the cape, please. All for Coipel's look since I'm not going to get the 70s-80s look.

[Chris Wallace]

THe armored one?

[RogueDK]

THe armored one?
Not sure if you were addressing me or Webhead but what I wanted was just the classic Thor look I grew up with. Realistically, I shouldn't expect that.

Coipel's grew on me almost instantly so I hope that Marvel doesn't botch this.

[CaptainStacy]

Coipel's grew on me almost instantly

Agreed. One of the rare occasions where i find an update just as good or even better than the original design...

[louiebling$]

Yea Dell'otto really dropped the ball on that one... he looks like collosus almost... but other than that... man I can't wait for that cover to come out :heart:

[Webhead2006]

yea i think it will probably end up being a mix of classic/modern thor for the film.

[That person]

Personally, I'd like a mix of 1602, Ages of Thunder, and Ulty, if anyone can imagine that.

[Superhero 101]

This is how I want to see Thor.

http://i48.tinypic.com/fna4cx.jpg

that would be perfect!!!!

[Chris Wallace]

Not sure if you were addressing me or Webhead but what I wanted was just the classic Thor look I grew up with. Realistically, I shouldn't expect that.

Coipel's grew on me almost instantly so I hope that Marvel doesn't botch this.

I never entertained the idea that we would get this.
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk294/tenderheartjedi/Thor.jpg
When you said 80's I thought you were referring to this.
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af113/comicdon/Marvel%20Comics/ml_1987_thor_378.jpg
sans the facemask, of course.
I, too, fell in love with the new look the instant I saw it.

[Spider-Vader]

Ditto. It's (IMO) the best costume redesign ever. I actually hope Marvel NEVER goes back to the classic costume.

[TheCorpulent1]

Personally, I'm kind of hoping for the current costume without the sleeves.

[kedrell]

I don't know, i just got this thing againts his cloak for some unknown reason lol.


I don't mind it. To me it's less like Superman's cape and more like an ancient Roman soldier's.

[Shivsguy616]

I don't mind it. To me it's less like Superman's cape and more like an ancient Roman soldier's.

I'd rather if Thor wore a realistic Norse cape rather than something which looks Roman. Maybe once he comes to Earth and becomes a "superhero" it could be redesigned, but a heavy cloak would be better of Asgard.

[EnSabahNur]

I have a feeling we might see the Ultimate look. Considering the fact that the movie will take place in modern times and they don't want to make him look goofy with the modern world. If he was wearing his armor and cape while walking the streets of new york or something he would look really silly. Although I can see him having some traditional look durring his asgaard scenes.

[Webhead2006]

i dont think we are getting ultimate look at all. first we know there is going to be a cape which he doesnt spot there, and second kenneth is a more classical guy so i am sure asgards are going to be wearing classical/modern looks to them.

[RogueDK]

i dont think we are getting ultimate look at all. first we know there is going to be a cape which he doesnt spot there, and second kenneth is a more classical guy so i am sure asgards are going to be wearing classical/modern looks to them.
I agree. I just hate the Ultimate Thor's look and would be disappointed if he went Biker halfway through the film.

Thor and the big red cape are just too synomynous to me. He just looks too cool with it.

[That person]

i dont think we are getting ultimate look at all. first we know there is going to be a cape which he doesnt spot there, and second kenneth is a more classical guy so i am sure asgards are going to be wearing classical/modern looks to them.

I think the Ultimate costume had good intentions by trying to show Thor as something alien. On the other hand, it went too far by almost completely abondoning his Norse roots. If they could take a select few elements of it and fuse it with the costumes from AoT and 1602, they could create something great.

[Chris Wallace]

I don't mind it. To me it's less like Superman's cape and more like an ancient Roman soldier's.

I never look at Thor & think of Superman, except to think of this.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/panther2/153582-superman_400.jpg
Or this.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/panther2/Superman_vs_Thor.jpg
Or this.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/panther2/thorvssupesup4-s.jpg

[NEXUS 6]

Especially that last one...

[Webhead2006]

as neat as it would be to do totally classic thor, it would see a bit silly in person. i do think any of the more decent modern takes of 616 thor will be what we get.

[Triad]

I like Thor's look in 2008's Ancient Asgard Trilogy (Ages Of Thunder, Reign Of Blood & Man Of War) Simple, yet still heroic. (My only critique is that the wings on the helmet could be a little bigger.)
I also very much like Coipel's interpretation of Thor.
ABSOLUTELY NO ULTIMATES VERSION!

[RogueDK]

ABSOLUTELY NO ULTIMATES VERSION!
:up:

[Webhead2006]

yea i think in the end they will probably go modern/coipel look for the movie. Plus we can kinda gleem that with knowing thor will have a cape.

[afan]

as neat as it would be to do totally classic thor, it would see a bit silly in person. i do think any of the more decent modern takes of 616 thor will be what we get.

Seems like I'm the minority.....but....I just don't get why this......
http://www.statuetopia.com/i//Thor1.jpg

Looks any more silly than say, this......

http://cdn1.ioffer.com/img/item/345/420/36/o_Thor.jpg

Or this........
http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Thor/thor_image_3.jpg

For my taste, all things being equal on the silly scale,....Give me the classic look!

[The_Mighty_Thor]

The only thing wrong with the classic look is the way it tucks into the crotch like a spandex outfit. Let the top hang through the belt and end like a shirt and that look would be the best one. I like the JMS design as well but never really like any of the others from the regular series. The one shots had some ok looks though.

[TheCorpulent1]

I really like that the top two discs on the Coipel design act as clasps for the cape. I love Kirby's design and all, but it always bugged me that Thor's cape seemed to come out of nowhere when he had discs that could easily act as clasps right there. I know, I know, the discs weren't really 3-dimensional initially, but artists started treating them as metallic, 3D discs pretty quickly, yet it took decades before they actually started putting them together with the cape.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

From what Kirby had said in interviews the discs were always meant to be armor. I always assumed that the cape was sewn to the shoulders which, in a fight, makes more sense than having it go around your neck like most heroes capes do. I like the discs being armor more than I like them as clasps but JMS's desighn works for me too.

[Nathan]

It's kinda silly don't you think? Only having 4 discs on your body serve as protection?

[The_Mighty_Thor]

He has six actually and they cover most of his torso. Really old armor was like that because it allowed for better movement at a time when weapons weren't that precise. Plus he's a God, how much protection does he need. To me the mail pants in the current look is the silliest of all. What's holding them up? I know the draw them form fitting but there is no way they could ever really fit like that.

[TheCorpulent1]

I always assumed Coipel's Thor had a whole chainmail bodysuit on. The sleeves and pants are all one thing under the tunic.

[Webhead2006]

well yes classic look has some silly traits to it. but really it all about what looks better on screen.

[afan]

Let's assume Asgard is cold..........chain mail?????brrrrrr.

It's amusing how the super-hero illustrations of Kirby et al are always determined to be a depiction of spandex! The rate at which artists turned out pages didn't allow for a lot of detail work. The materials imagined are not explained by the illustrations. I am quite sure in Kirby's mind, the discs and perhaps the belt are metal, the tunic and boots leather, etc. It's purely the design that's important, and Thor's classic design works just fine.

In "reality" Superman's cape is problematic. How do you attach a heavy cape to Superman's costume at an open neckline!!??. Costumers solved the problem for Reeves' outfit and they can solve it for Thor. Where there is a will there is a way!

[SpiderByte]

I was thinking that maybe the hammer should be Asgardian metal, but has a shape like the Copiel look.

[TheCorpulent1]

Coipel draws it with pretty much the same shape it's had since Kirby's day. It's just gotten more detailed over the years.

[thorstone]

I think Vladimir Kulich's armor in The 13th Warrior is as close to what I would want in Thor's armor as I can find. I would imagine it being more full body and sci-fi looking-- like Ironman.

[Kurosawa]

All they need is to make it recognizably the Marvel Thor-Cape, Discs, helmet.

[3atman]

K, so I'm not really knowledgeable on the Thor mythos, but how is he going to fit into the universe Marvel has created thus far? You have Iron Man, real person, Hulk, realy person, beatable, just gets really big and strong when pissed, captain america, super soldier, then Thor....GOD. How does this all fit in and can they change the character a little to make it fit? Like maybe he's not really a God, just a megalomaniac badass? or is that a retarded idea that only a non-Thor-knowing guy like myself would say.

[Ace of Knaves]

:funny: I wouldn't call you a retard...but that is a dumb idea.

They'll find a way. Maybe when Thor comes to Midgard (earth) they'll use a bit of the Ultimate story, where everyone else thinks Thor is just some nut case claiming to be a God or something.

And if you think about it Gamma radiation turning some guy into a massive beast and a super soldier serum turning a skinny weakling into the ultimate athlete isn't exactly realistic. These films shouldn't be aiming for realism like Nolan's Batman movies.

[afan]

Define "GOD".

I don't see this film depicting Asgardians who acknowledge their godhood, but rather the Norse who, upon witnessing a visit by them to Earth, grant them the status.

Allowing the Asgardians to consider themselves gods just opens to many worm cans.

[TheCorpulent1]

They've considered themselves gods in the comics for almost 50 years now and it's never been a problem. People don't necessarily have to believe Thor's a god (who would in today's world?), but he is.

[afan]

They've considered themselves gods in the comics for almost 50 years now and it's never been a problem. People don't necessarily have to believe Thor's a god (who would in today's world?), but he is.

Ahhh but now it's going to be a major motion picture! Whole new arena!

Again that opens a can o worms that the tone of these films do not need.
A definition/discussion of god becomes necessary. The common definition of course includes religious beliefs, why we are here, and what becomes of us after death. If Asgardians are in fact gods, giving credence to the mythology, then do warriors who die in battle repose in Valhalla? Where is the Christian god? Too many unnecessary questions arise.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't see why. The Asgardians are the same guys that the Norse worshiped as gods, but obviously not everything from the mythology actually happened. Odin probably didn't really create Earth, just as Zeus and the other mythological gods didn't create it either. Speaking of Zeus, we've had numerous films, TV shows, etc. over the years where the Olympians are portrayed as gods, called gods, and consider themselves gods. Why should Thor be different?

[Nathan]

Yeah, I don't see exactly what the problem here is. The Asgardians consider themselves gods. So? How does that interfere with any other religion? It's not like all the other gods suddenly don't exist anymore.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Thor needs to be a god in the Movie. It's what he's always been in the comics and changing that for the film would just make it a throw away film.

There was a story arc in Thor where a mortal calling himself the Crusader battled Thor calling him a pagan and a false god. He held his own with Thor and Thor was wounded by his mortal blade. When he talked to Odin about it he said it happened because Thor was beginning to doubt himself as a god in the modern world and was uncomfortable with being worshiped as a god. I always thought that something along those lines would make a good story in a Thor movie but not until the second one or later. They need to establish who he is in the Marvel universe in the first film.

[Ace of Knaves]

If they existed in the first place :awesome:

[afan]

Then the film must define God, and that's the problem.

Speaking of Zeus, we've had numerous films, TV shows, etc. over the years where the Olympians are portrayed as gods, called gods, and consider themselves gods. Why should Thor be different?


Ahhhhhhh ......Hercules with Steve Reeves or Harryhausen's Jason and the Argonauts........classics!

But those films are set in mythological Greece. Relegate Thor to the realm of Asgard and perhaps only the Midgard of the Norse and setting him up as the God of Thunder creates no problem, but placing him in a modern world claiming godhood is different alltogether.

Put Zeus in a modern world telling all he is God, with the story confirming that he is what he claims...and it's a whole new ball game.

[Ace of Knaves]

I think that could be interesting though. Thor claiming to be a God. Everyone else raising their eyebrows like "WTF is this loon on?"

Then Thor shows he is the real deal.

They've got Gamma mutated monsters and skinny weaklings turned into the ultimate athlete/soldier from a serum. They are not exactly going for realism here.

[Nathan]

Then the film must define God, and that's the problem.

Must it? Thor will be A god. Not THE God.

Ahhhhhhh ......Hercules with Steve Reeves or Harryhausen's Jason and the Argonauts........classics!

But those films are set in mythological Greece. Relegate Thor to the realm of Asgard and perhaps only the Midgard of the Norse and setting him up as the God of Thunder creates no problem, but placing him in a modern world claiming godhood is different alltogether.

Put Zeus in a modern world telling all he is God, with the story confirming that he is what he claims...and it's a whole new ball game.

So what exactly is the problem here? Fear that religios nutjobs will throw a hissy fit because there'll be a character claiming himself to be a god in a Superhero movie? And of course we all know there can't be any other gods next to the Christian one. :whatever:

[afan]

Must it? Thor will be A god. Not THE God.

:whatever:

Ok then the film needs to define "a god".

Then Thor shows he is the real deal.

How? Controlling weather? Does that then also make Storm a god?
How does he show he is a god, if god is not defined?


They've got Gamma mutated monsters and skinny weaklings turned into the ultimate athlete/soldier from a serum. They are not exactly going for realism here.


None of them claim they are a deity.

[TheCorpulent1]

Then the film must define God, and that's the problem.



Ahhhhhhh ......Hercules with Steve Reeves or Harryhausen's Jason and the Argonauts........classics!

But those films are set in mythological Greece. Relegate Thor to the realm of Asgard and perhaps only the Midgard of the Norse and setting him up as the God of Thunder creates no problem, but placing him in a modern world claiming godhood is different alltogether.

Put Zeus in a modern world telling all he is God, with the story confirming that he is what he claims...and it's a whole new ball game.
Like I said, no one has to believe him. People have always considered Thor just another superhero in the Marvel universe (yes, even before The Ultimates). His backstory coincides with a lot of the stuff from Norse myth and he was in fact worshiped as a god by the ancient Norsemen, but the film could easily leave the origins of the Asgardians murky enough that people can believe whatever they want. The comics have also done that for a long, long time. In almost 50 years of Thor comics, I think there's maybe 2 or 3 references to the gods' origins that haven't been shot down later on as false.

Also, you're capitalizing "god" in your last sentence. No one believes Thor is God and Thor himself has never claimed to be the almighty supreme being Judeo-Christians call "God." He's a god, lower-case G. Big difference there.

[afan]

Well I was using the capital "G" in relation to Zues, who I believe in Greek Mytyh would qualify as and call himself the Boss. A question: How do you suppose they will signify the small "g" on film when Thor refers to himself as a god?

Any ways since this is the "Thor's Costume" thread and a godhood discussion is way off topic, perhaps I should step off my soap box now.

[TheCorpulent1]

They'll signify it because he'll be part of a race of gods, plural, each with their own specialty, just like all of the Greek gods had their own specialties; none of them is all-powerful. I really don't see where the conflict is here. Everyone's familiar with mythological gods. The film asks the question: "What if Thor were real and became a superhero in the modern world?" It doesn't in any way overwrite or downplay or threaten the all-powerful God of the Abrahamic religions.

[3atman]

Now that you guys say it, i realize my idea was bad. Sorry, I honestly don't know jack about Thor. All I know is that he's the god of thunder and who's been cast (for the most part).

As a Christian (and not one of the crazies that condemn you to hell for looking at a pretty girl), I have absolutely no problem with Thor going "I'm the god of Thunder" if you're "the god of *something*" then christians take it as much more of a ficticious concept and don't feel like you're challenging their beliefs. Even the crazies.

So basically, from what I've gathered from you guys, Thor is just another superhero who happens to call himself the god of thunder.

If anyone would, please give me a list of 5-10 Thor graphic novels I need to pick up.

[afan]

They'll signify it because he'll be part of a race of gods, plural, each with their own specialty, just like all of the Greek gods had their own specialties; none of them is all-powerful. I really don't see where the conflict is here. Everyone's familiar with mythological gods. The film asks the question: "What if Thor were real and became a superhero in the modern world?" It doesn't in any way overwrite or downplay or threaten the all-powerful God of the Abrahamic religions.

......and everyone is familar with the fact that ancients prayed to Greek gods. They made offerings to Greek gods to garner favor. They built elaborate temples to honor their gods and populated them with priest and priestess. They worshipped Greek gods just as Catholics or Muslims worship and pray to theirs. It is only the replacement of Greco/Roman religions by modern creeds that has put the small "g" label on those gods. Doesn't a film that professes the reality of the beliefs that the ancients held become problematic?
Tho' not well versed I presume that the Norse gods were also venerated in the same manner.
A film could still be made that deals with mythology and the belief by some on Earth that Thor and his fellow Asgardians are actually gods worthy of the worship bestowed on that status by the Norse without the Asgardians regarding themselves as gods.

Forgive me for dredging up Superman Returns here, but the discourse over the religious connotation in that film is intense, how much more intense will it become for a film in which the main character declares himself to be a deity!

[Chewy]

Doesn't a film that professes the reality of the beliefs that the ancients held become problematic?
Not when the film is itself a work of fiction

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea...religion doesn't come into it. Please let's not start discussing that because it would annoy me greatly.

And 3atman try the Ages of Thunder series for a pretty cool recent story.

[Raiden]

I don't see why. The Asgardians are the same guys that the Norse worshiped as gods, but obviously not everything from the mythology actually happened. Odin probably didn't really create Earth, just as Zeus and the other mythological gods didn't create it either. Speaking of Zeus, we've had numerous films, TV shows, etc. over the years where the Olympians are portrayed as gods, called gods, and consider themselves gods. Why should Thor be different?

Exactly. And with Olympian gods suddenly in Vogue again in Hollywood (thanks to Crash of the Titans and Parcy Jackson & the Lightning Thief), we should get a movie about the Norse gods (which the general public knew little of). Thor could be the floodgate that get people interested in the mythology of Odin and other Norse gods.

[Nathan]

I'm really thinking you're looking way too much into this. I can almost read the words "Blasphemy!" in your post, because Thor will be depicted as a god in the Movie.

[Raiden]

I'm really thinking you're looking way too much into this. I can almost read the words "Blasphemy!" in your post, because Thor will be depicted as a god in the Movie.

The funny thing is that Thor will be shown to other countries around the world, who will have religions other than Christianity/Catholicism/Muslim as their chief religion such as Buddhism and Hinduism, and they will have no problem watching a movie about fictional story of a Norse god. Seems like only certain kind of people will be fanatical enough to get all wrapped up about it.

[afan]

Yea...religion doesn't come into it. Please let's not start discussing that because it would annoy me greatly.



That's my point, and my fear.
That by having the main character profess godhood it will come into it and discussions will be unavoidable!
If I'm wrong(and by the majority of opinions here perhaps I am) I'm glad!


I'm really thinking you're looking way too much into this. I can almost read the words "Blasphemy!" in your post, because Thor will be depicted as a god in the Movie.


Not my intent on a personal level at all. I will not be offended in the least by Thor's self-professed godhood, I hazard to say I have not one religious bone in my body:yay:, but as I have stated, it is my fear that it will release many cans- o -worms.

[3atman]

The funny thing is that Thor will be shown to other countries around the world, who will have religions other than Christianity/Catholicism/Muslim as their chief religion such as Buddhism and Hinduism, and they will have no problem watching a movie about fictional story of a Norse god. Seems like only certain kind of people will be fanatical enough to get all wrapped up about it.

I'm going to take a guess that they're above the Oklahoma border, below the Nebraska border, west of the Missouri border, and east of the Colorado border? Well, most of them. They're also known for wanting to protest an actors death simply because he portrayed a gay (but good besides cheating) mean. Am I right?

Anybody else got some good Thor graphic novels, comics, cartoons, anything?

[Nathan]

Yeah, let's not bring godhood into this out of fear of starting discussions. Hey, while we're at it. Let's get rid of the hammer and any sort of violence, out of fear of soccermoms complaining about a dude with a hammer inspiring their children to raid their dad's toolbox and running amok amongst other children.

[TheCorpulent1]

Anybody else got some good Thor graphic novels, comics, cartoons, anything?
Avengers Disassembled: Thor, J. Michael Straczynski's Thor run, and Walt Simonson's Thor run.

[Raiden]

I'm really thinking you're looking way too much into this. I can almost read the words "Blasphemy!" in your post, because Thor will be depicted as a god in the Movie.

The funny thing is that Thor will be shown to other countries around the world, who will have religions other than Christianity/Catholicism/Muslim as their chief religion such as Buddhism and Hinduism, and they will have no problem watching a movie about fictional story of a Norse god. Seems like only certain kind of people will be fanatical enough to get all wrapped up about it.

[Canis Sapiens]

Double post. Hate my computer!

[Canis Sapiens]

......and everyone is familar with the fact that ancients prayed to Greek gods. They made offerings to Greek gods to garner favor. They built elaborate temples to honor their gods and populated them with priest and priestess. They worshipped Greek gods just as Catholics or Muslims worship and pray to theirs.


Not exactly. Actually, the Greek (and Norse, and...) gods were closer to the superhero concept than to what we call religion. They had all the human emotions and shortcomings (like jealousy, hatred, cowardice...), and were often portrayed as jackasses who had some lessons to be learned or fearless warriors who used to save the day. But even then, the Greek people used to take these stories half-seriously.

In those days, the Greek gods were more admired and seen as an (good or bad) example than worshiped, really. Think our Hollywood celebrities, but with super powers. :yay:

[afan]

Not exactly. Actually, the Greek (and Norse, and...) gods were closer to the superhero concept than to what we call religion. They had all the human emotions and shortcomings (like jealousy, hatred, cowardice...), and were often portrayed as jackasses who had some lessons to be learned or fearless warriors who used to save the day. But even then, the Greek people used to take these stories half-seriously.

In those days, the Greek gods were more admired and seen as an (good or bad) example than worshiped, really. Think our Hollywood celebrities, but with super powers. :yay:

Respectfully I think you're confusing the gods as represented in literature vs. the way they were worshipped by the ancient Greeks. One does not have to go any further than "Jesus Christ Superstar" to find the equivalent today.

[Chewy]

Is there a big backlash against Percy Jackson? That movie will portray the Greek gods as though they are real and exist in our world today.

It is a non-issue for a piece of fiction to portray a fictitious being as real

[afan]

Is there a big backlash against Percy Jackson? That movie will portray the Greek gods as though they are real and exist in our world today.

It is a non-issue for a piece of fiction to portray a fictitious being as real

I agree entirely with this statement, but IMO when the fictitious character professes godhood it's another issue.
Will the characters used in Percy Jackson profess the truth of their godhood?
Again Asgardians may be presented as the gods worshipped by the Norse, while the Asgardians themselves need not profess a claim to godhood.

[Aesop Rocks]

Personally, I see the Asgardians being along the same lines as the Gondor civilians from LOTR movies.

Asgard:
http://i47.tinypic.com/e0fseo.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/sbj6g1.jpg
Asgardians:
http://i45.tinypic.com/2ronse0.jpg

Probably the Army/Gods (various branch off designs and helmets).
http://i48.tinypic.com/33uv2bl.jpg
Gods:
http://i47.tinypic.com/23lk4l4.jpg
But that's just me.

[Canis Sapiens]

Respectfully I think you're confusing the gods as represented in literature vs. the way they were worshipped by the ancient Greeks. One does not have to go any further than "Jesus Christ Superstar" to find the equivalent today.

I'm not saying they weren't worshiped. I'm saying they were not worshiped like the Christians' or Muslims' God is worshiped. It was kind of closer to moral fables, really. The ancient Greeks used to say: "Oh Hermes done this and that and it was great, but then he was stupid and dropped the ball, etc.". You would never see a Christian speak like that about Jesus, for example.

Believe me, I have an ex-girlfriend who was studying to be a PHD in Greek mythology. I know more about these matters than I ever wanted. :cwink:

[afan]

I'm not saying they weren't worshiped. I'm saying they were not worshiped like the Christians' or Muslims' God is worshiped. It was kind of closer to moral fables, really. The ancient Greeks used to say: "Oh Hermes done this and that and it was great, but then he was stupid and dropped the ball, etc.". You would never see a Christian speak like that about Jesus, for example.

Believe me, I have an ex-girlfriend who was studying to be a PHD in Greek mythology. I know more about these matters than I ever wanted. :cwink:

You keep your ex-girlfriends:cwink:.
BTW isn't The Old Testament in the Bible a prime example of mythology?

[Canis Sapiens]

You keep your ex-girlfriends:cwink:.
BTW isn't The Old Testament in the Bible a prime example of mythology?

Hehehehe, yeah, typo. Kind of. Actually I have a date with her tomorrow, she became an archaeologist and is living in Rome for some time, now she's here 'til February and we planned a flashback thing. Now, thinkin' about it, I was such an idiot to dump her...:cmad:

And I agree with you, the Old Testament reads like pure mythology, I remember reading about Javeh (sp?) smashing the enemy armies. Pretty different from the loving New Testament God, eh?

[Khemik@L]

Hehehehe, yeah, typo. Kind of. Actually I have a date with her tomorrow, she became an archaeologist and is living in Rome for some time, now she's here 'til February and we planned a flashback thing. Now, thinkin' about it, I was such an idiot to dump her...:cmad:

And I agree with you, the Old Testament reads like pure mythology, I remember reading about Javeh (sp?) smashing the enemy armies. Pretty different from the loving New Testament God, eh?

Well who knows maybe your date will go so well that you can win her back :woot: And by the way the Old Testatment God and the New Testament God are the same. Just that his dealings with Humanity would be altered based on the maturity of the human race as a whole. Sort of like how you deal with your 2 year old baby much more differently than you deal with your teenager; and then you will deal with your teenager differently than you will deal with your adult child.

And as a side note - The entire Old testatment was to prepare humanity for Jesus Christ birth into the World. And then the entire New Testament is to reveal who Jesus is. That's the whole book in a nutshell

[Son of Coul]

You guys are thinking too much about the god thing and are thus confusing me. Quit it

[afan]

Hehehehe, yeah, typo. Kind of. Actually I have a date with her tomorrow, she became an archaeologist and is living in Rome for some time, now she's here 'til February and we planned a flashback thing. Now, thinkin' about it, I was such an idiot to dump her...:cmad:

And I agree with you, the Old Testament reads like pure mythology, I remember reading about Javeh (sp?) smashing the enemy armies. Pretty different from the loving New Testament God, eh?

Well then best of luck with the flashback!

[Canis Sapiens]

Well who knows maybe your date will go so well that you can win her back

Well then best of luck with the flashback!

Oh, thanks, guys, but unfortunately she'll go back to Italy and spend like two more years there, digging out ancient coins or something like that... maybe after that we'll be together again... if a charming, handsome Italian guy doesn't get her first...:csad:


And by the way the Old Testatment God and the New Testament God are the same. Just that his dealings with Humanity would be altered based on the maturity of the human race as a whole. Sort of like how you deal with your 2 year old baby much more differently than you deal with your teenager; and then you will deal with your teenager differently than you will deal with your adult child.

I didn't know about that. That's a nice way to explain it. Thanks!

[afan]

You guys are thinking too much about the god thing and are thus confusing me. Quit it

Good advice.

Classic Thor costume design all the way!

[Aesop Rocks]

Personally, I see the Asgardians being along the same lines as the Gondor civilians from LOTR movies.

Asgard:
http://i47.tinypic.com/e0fseo.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/sbj6g1.jpg
Asgardians:
http://i45.tinypic.com/2ronse0.jpg

Probably the Army/Gods (various branch off designs and helmets).
http://i48.tinypic.com/33uv2bl.jpg
Gods:
http://i47.tinypic.com/23lk4l4.jpg
But that's just me.


thisthisthisthis

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Personally, I see the Asgardians being along the same lines as the Gondor civilians from LOTR movies.
Asgardians:
http://i45.tinypic.com/2ronse0.jpg

But that's just me.

So they'll be wearing dockers and modern day work bots under their robes?

[Aesop Rocks]

More than you'll ever know.

[Chris Wallace]

You guys are thinking too much about the god thing and are thus confusing me. Quit it

I seriously doubt anyone is going to really care. I don't see people flipping over "Clash Of The Titans" & its tagline, "Damn the gods".

[Khemik@L]

I didn't know about that. That's a nice way to explain it. Thanks!

:up: Its All Good!

[Spider-Vader]

Is there a big backlash against Percy Jackson? That movie will portray the Greek gods as though they are real and exist in our world today.

It is a non-issue for a piece of fiction to portray a fictitious being as real

These religious whackos want attention. Boycotting Percy Jackson won't get them attention, boycotting a major summer movie like Thor will.

[3atman]

So, what kind of movie do you guys envision this as? Not knowing much about Thor, I just see it as something like a mix of Lord of the Rings, 300, and Iron Man. Like macho boasting, great cinematography that fits the style with language to go with it, but with a comic book feel and some comedy.

Being a laman, I was hoping maybe someone would set up like a "classroom" thread to teach fools like myself about Thor. I would really like to learn, but there's only so much a broke college student can buy or find online.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

This is the costume thread, try asking in one of these threads

http://forums.superherohype.com/forumdisplay.php?f=454

[Kurosawa]

Now that you guys say it, i realize my idea was bad. Sorry, I honestly don't know jack about Thor. All I know is that he's the god of thunder and who's been cast (for the most part).

As a Christian (and not one of the crazies that condemn you to hell for looking at a pretty girl), I have absolutely no problem with Thor going "I'm the god of Thunder" if you're "the god of *something*" then christians take it as much more of a ficticious concept and don't feel like you're challenging their beliefs. Even the crazies.

So basically, from what I've gathered from you guys, Thor is just another superhero who happens to call himself the god of thunder.

If anyone would, please give me a list of 5-10 Thor graphic novels I need to pick up.

There was actually an old Thor story that dealt directly with this issue, THOR #303, January 1981. A priest is in jeopardy of having to sell his church to crooked developers and Thor helps him out. Seeing Thor makes the priest doubt his faith to which Thor responds: "There be many gods worshipped on this Earth Father Coza, throughout this universe...they are given truth by the strength of faith and thus, through belief and prayer, all are made true..all spring from the same universal higher force, your faith is NOT misplaced."

So Marvel has addressed this issue directly, a long time ago before doing so would be a common accepted practice actually.

Also check out any Thor from the 60's by Lee/Kirby. It's actually the most successful period of the character's history sales-wise-it was Marvel's #2 or #3 best selling title back then.

[3atman]

Any specific names? I keep getting "the so and so series" but it's much easier to search and find things with specific names.

[TheCorpulent1]

Simonson's run is collected in the Thor Visionaries: Walter Simonson trades. I think there's 3 of them. JMS' run is collected in the most recent Thor trades, which I think are just called Thor vol. 1 and 2, but should have "J. Michael Straczynski" somewhere on them. The "Ragnarok" arc was collected in the Avengers Disassembled: Thor trade.

[Webhead2006]

so with filming now underway hopefully we will have a tease on costume soon.

[kedrell]

Give it about a month & a half.

[SpiderByte]

Imagine: A Thor trailer.

:D

[kedrell]

That probably won't be around until September or so.

[Webhead2006]

yea officially probably wont have a trailer to sept, Unofficially i am sure they will have a video reel at comic con in july. As for costume/set images yea i agree we will probably have something by march.

[jacobed]

I think it'd be really sweet if they were able to get just a little teaser up and running with Iron Man 2. It makes alot of sense to do that so hopefully, even if its like Inception where hardly any footage is shown.

[kedrell]

^That seems to be a Nolan trademark. Teasers that show you literally nothing. TDK had one as well.

[marvelboy10]

No ! I think we will have set picture of thor this month.

[kedrell]

Sure, a picture of some part of the set & some props. IM did the same. 2 weeks into principle photography we got some pics of the weapons crates and the terrorist camp/cave. But we won't likely get a pic of an actor in costume for at least a month beyond that.

[antmanx68]

I think in a couple of months we'll get an official shot debuting Thor in Entertainment weekly like we have with Iron man/DD/and Spidey.

[chiefchirpa]

Teaser which shows nothing other than the hammer and a streak of lightning should be good enough with Iron Man 2. Shows moviegoers that Marvel don't stop with Iron Man.

[kedrell]

Actually that wouldn't work. It's ok for Hulk to have something like that(he did with SM1) because the character is known. Thor isn't and a teaser like that is just gonna confuse 99% of the audience who never heard of him. The 1st teaser needs to have footage of Chris as Thor as well as a lot of other stuff to sell it. They won't have that ready in only 3 & 1/2 months.

[Brian Braddock]

Teaser which shows nothing other than the hammer and a streak of lightning should be good enough with Iron Man 2. Shows moviegoers that Marvel don't stop with Iron Man.

Yeah, that'd work.

Course, problems come from if they go further and show a shot of Thor's hand gripping Mjolnir.

You just know some people will complain that Hemsworth's fingers are all wrong for Thor, or his fingernails are too long/too short, too hairy/not hairy enough..................:hehe:

[Chris Wallace]

Actually that wouldn't work. It's ok for Hulk to have something like that(he did with SM1) because the character is known. Thor isn't and a teaser like that is just gonna confuse 99% of the audience who never heard of him. The 1st teaser needs to have footage of Chris as Thor as well as a lot of other stuff to sell it. They won't have that ready in only 3 & 1/2 months.

It could work. At least for us it would. Give the GA time to catch up.

[kedrell]

It could work. At least for us it would. Give the GA time to catch up.


Sure, for us it would. But Marvel/Paramount needs to be thinking beyond that with their marketing of this film. Something like the first teaser for POTC would be a good place to start because that was another unknown(except for the name of the ride).

Edit: Actually, scratch that POTC idea. That one was mainly sold on Johnny Depp's name alone. Thor doesn't have that advantage.

[SpiderByte]

Or Percy Jackson. That was a good one, even if you didn't read the books.

[SpiderByte]

So, Chris, you're thinking of posters like this?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3294/3047708249_7fc4e0573c.jpg

[The_Mighty_Thor]

with lightning!!!!

[SpiderByte]

http://www.**************.com/images/users/gallerypictures/4125L.jpg

[Chris Wallace]

Something like that. At first.

[Webhead2006]

not a bad fan poster. As for Thor's promotions i am sure they will kick it up a notch like im did.

[TheCorpulent1]

So, Chris, you're thinking of posters like this?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3294/3047708249_7fc4e0573c.jpg
That's pretty good, except I think it would've been better if they had "the power of..." at the top and just let the title fill in the "Thor" part.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I like the one with the lightning batter.

[Spider-Fan83]

it's been abit of a slow news week, but, here's alil hint at the new costume design, that I came cross on one of the concept artists blog


http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2576/thora.jpg (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/thora.jpg/)
not quite what the new costume looks like...
http://blog.pensketch.com/?p=106 (http://blog.pensketch.com/?p=106)

ok, not actually news worthy, but, isn’t that reassuring too know, L:hehe:L

[SpiderByte]

:lmao:

Good one!

[RogueDK]

it's been abit of a slow news week, but, here's alil hint at the new costume design, that I came cross on one of the concept artists blog


http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2576/thora.jpg (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/thora.jpg/)
http://blog.pensketch.com/?p=106 (http://blog.pensketch.com/?p=106)

ok, not actually news worthy, but, isn’t that reassuring too know, L:hehe:L

Actually, that's not too bad from a fanboy perspective. I've really seen worse. :hehe:

[Hyperstorm]

Adi Granov's take on the current comic costume:

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3780/siegeendstheavengers201.jpg

[SpiderByte]

Why does Iron Man have woman-legs?

[Chris Wallace]

Why does Iron Man have woman-legs?

I was wondering that myself.

[SpiderByte]

And nipples?

[TheCorpulent1]

Probably because his armor is way too simplistic by Granov's standards. Plus, Granov tends to elongate people a bit anyway. Really gargantuan proportions are not in his repertoire. That's why Thor also looks kind of skinny compared to his usual standards.

[SpiderByte]

So he turns him into a woman?

[Chris Wallace]

Why is he in that old-school armor anyway?

[TheCorpulent1]

Probably because he's in a coma at the start of Siege, so I doubt he'll have a spiffy new armor ready and waiting for him when he comes out of it. Gotta make do with what's around, and he always seems to keep a few of those old-school suits around as backups. He's getting a brand-new armor in his own series just after Siege, though.

[SpiderByte]

Still, it looks stupid.

Oh, and your sig is awesome. Psych rules.

[TheCorpulent1]

It truly does.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea... wow... that Iron Man really looks terrible there. Probably never noticed it because Thor looks so awesome.

[Aesop Rocks]

I usually love Adi G. But Jesus that's a terrible Iron Man.

Cap and Thor look great though!

[RogueDK]

Adi Granov's take on the current comic costume:

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3780/siegeendstheavengers201.jpg
IMO, that Iron Man art isn't that bad but the pose makes it suck royally. A little too feminine I guess especially with that 70s armor hugging him so.
The Thor and Cap poses are what I want them to look like in their respective movies though. That's a really great pose of Thor. I love it! :awesome:

[TheCorpulent1]

His Thor doesn't really do anything for me. I'm not sure why. His tunic's a bit too rumpled and he's a bit too small overall, I guess. Plus the pose feels really static and awkward to me, like someone is yelling, "Okay, Thor, hold that pose!" and flashing a camera.

[Aesop Rocks]

Well, they are posing for a cover. :awesome:

[TheCorpulent1]

But it shouldn't look like they are. :csad:

[[A]]

Ugh, ugly Iron Man :csad: put it away, put it away!

[Nivek]

And nipples?

??

You guys need your eyes checked, thats the 80's classic Iron Man armor, the battery disks and the PLUGS on the chest are a give away. The artist made it a bit slim and sleek, but that's a standard Iron Man suit.

[Chris Wallace]

But it shouldn't look like they are. :csad:

I agree.

[afan]

??

You guys need your eyes checked, thats the 80's classic Iron Man armor, the battery disks and the PLUGS on the chest are a give away. The artist made it a bit slim and sleek, but that's a standard Iron Man suit.

Yes it is, and the treatment here reminds me of what SR did to another standard suit.

Interesting Iron Man wore "pirate" boots too.......sorta.

[Nivek]

Yes it is, and the treatment here reminds me of what SR did to another standard suit.

Interesting Iron Man wore "pirate" boots too.......sorta.

:huh::huh:

What are you talking about man? I don't understand why some of you think that suit looks funny? He wore that style of armor in the comics for close to 20 tears, from the 60's to the 80's. Are you guys so young you never grew up seeing it or something?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Nivekian/300px-Iron_Man_134.jpg

[kedrell]

It's just that it looks too slim and the hip area looks like what some of the girls out there are wearing today(short-shorts). I realize it's the classic armor.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Notice how in that pic the red fits like tighty whities but in Granov's the red comes down on his thighs. It makes it look like he's wearing a mini dress! That's why he looks so womanly. Plus how would he be able to move if the torso part covered so much of his legs?

[SpiderByte]

In short:

Iron Manwoman.

[RogueDK]

:huh::huh:

What are you talking about man? I don't understand why some of you think that suit looks funny? He wore that style of armor in the comics for close to 20 tears, from the 60's to the 80's. Are you guys so young you never grew up seeing it or something?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Nivekian/300px-Iron_Man_134.jpg
Ah, the classic armor. :word:

[Khemik@L]

:huh::huh:

What are you talking about man? I don't understand why some of you think that suit looks funny? He wore that style of armor in the comics for close to 20 tears, from the 60's to the 80's. Are you guys so young you never grew up seeing it or something?

Classic Armour or not. You can't tell me that pic does not make ironman's legs look like a victoria secret model or something. I mean look at your version:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Nivekian/300px-Iron_Man_134.jpg
I'm sure nobody would confuse his legs there with the legs of a woman.

But this crap right here:
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3780/siegeendstheavengers201.jpg
:pal:. Only bring 2 reactions to mind. :barf: and this :facepalm:

[TheCorpulent1]

This one's my preferred "classic" armor:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/M_IronMan.jpg

He was wearing that in one of the earliest comics I remember reading as a kid. :up:

[kedrell]

This is my all time favorite "classic" looking armor from when I was a teenager:

http://i48.tinypic.com/rm4101.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

Pretty much the same as the one I posted. I tend to prefer the big, clunky boots though. I don't know why.

[kedrell]

That's exactly what I didn't like.. How's he supposed to walk in those things? :hehe:

[TheFuture]

Referring to post #930;

When did Tony Stark produce Iron Man armour for the metrosexual? :awesome:

[Nathan]

Pretty much the same as the one I posted. I tend to prefer the big, clunky boots though. I don't know why.

You don't happen to be a big Mega Man fan? That could explain it.

[Khemik@L]

Referring to post #930;

When did Tony Stark produce Iron Man armour for the metrosexual? :awesome:

I just captioned that bad boy. You guys can check it out in the Thor Caption thread :hehe:

[Ace of Knaves]

See, I've never really liked the "sculpted muscle" look for his armour. What's the ****in point of that?

[TheCorpulent1]

There is no point, it's just how artists drew comics back then. There wasn't much differentiation between textures.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I do have an old Iron man conic somewhere where he rolls up the yellow part of his sleeve like it was made out of cloth.

[Chris Wallace]

WHich is why I prefer this.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z29/MoonKnight_2007/Ironman.png

[Weadazoid]

I do have an old Iron man conic somewhere where he rolls up the yellow part of his sleeve like it was made out of cloth.




He used to be able to carry the entire gear in a small breif case, and it was like cloth....until a charge was apllied then the tech alowed it to be flexible yet almost metalic in it's ability to repel things like bullets.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I remember reading in an old Marvel Handbook that the yellow part of his armor was some kind of micromesh that had a lot of circuitry but remained flexible like stretchy cloth or spandex.

[kedrell]

It was billions of tiny pieces of armor all held together by a magnetic field which allowed it to be both flexible and rigid, depending on what was needed. It was basically like the memory cloth idea for Batman's cape in BB.

[hame4479]

As much as I absolutely cant wait for the 1st promo imageof Hemsworth's Thor, I'm not looking forward to the inevitable b****ing and moaning that will follow it. And you know it will. 'The capes the wrong shade of red, Mjolnirs's the wrong shape, the boots suck, his hairs all wrong, his helmets too shiny' etc.

We've all been around here too long to be niiave enough to think it wont.


OMG don't even remind me. The backlash to the superman returns costume was enough to put me off forever. In a world where we could have ended up with something so totally diferent from the source material and ended up getting a costume that is literally the exact same thing with minor color changes and a slightly different neckline u would have thought an atrocity was comitd.

[SpiderByte]

Yeah, me too. I thought the costume was incredibly awesome, and exactly how I imagined it should be. The plot sucked, not the costume.

[Triad]

I would have changed the neckline, lose the \S/ belt buckle & enlarge the chest one. Other than that, I liked the SR costume. (Now, the movie on the other hand....)
As far as Thor, yeah you will NEVER please EVERYONE. I'm sure it will look cool. As long as he keeps some of the traditional elements like the cape, helmet & discs (NO Ultimates influence!) I'll be happy.

[marcvader]

The costume sucked as well

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I didn't mind the Supes returns costume at all I just couldn't stay awake through that crap fest.

Marvel did good with Iron Man I trust they'll come up with a decent Thor look but if there's any Ultimates influence those will be my screams you hear echoing through every city on earth!

[NoirMan82]

Well, I think it got confirmed by the design assistants that we will see a much more "classic" Thor. Red cape and all. The one thing about Thor's costume is that there is much more room for interpretation than a lot of other heroes.

[Chris Wallace]

The costume sucked as well

I think I actually hated the costume MORE than the plot. I remember when I first saw it, my hopes for the movie were just dashed. I kept thinking, "If this is how they think he should look, how can the movie possibly be any good?"

[night0205]

I'm sure the costume will look cool. I'm wondering however, how he wears it in modern times...

[TheCorpulent1]

What do you mean? He'll wear it the same way he wears it any other time, same as in the comics. :huh:

[Webhead2006]

so since filming has been underway for like a week and a half now has any more costume designs pop up? so cant wait for first look leaked/official for thor's looks.

[Webhead2006]

so since filming has been underway for like a week and a half now has any more costume designs pop up? so cant wait for first look leaked/official for thor's looks.

[night0205]

What do you mean? He'll wear it the same way he wears it any other time, same as in the comics. :huh:

I guess what I'm trying to say is... And I don't know a whole lot about Thor, but just because he always wears his mid-evil outfit in the comics, doesn't mean there won't be a time where he has to change his clothes, more modern. It may be a weird concept to hardcore fans, but it does make sense that he may have to switch his clothes... What if his armor gets dirty?

[MMMMM...Dounuts]

so since filming has been underway for like a week and a half now has any more costume designs pop up? so cant wait for first look leaked/official for thor's looks.

Really? Do you have a link to confirm this. I haven't heard this yet.

[RogueDK]

Really? Do you have a link to confirm this. I haven't heard this yet.
They started filming the beginning of last week I believe. It's confirmed on various sites.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

They began filming on the 11th. Favreau visited the set while they were filming and said it looked cool.

[TheCorpulent1]

I guess what I'm trying to say is... And I don't know a whole lot about Thor, but just because he always wears his mid-evil outfit in the comics, doesn't mean there won't be a time where he has to change his clothes, more modern. It may be a weird concept to hardcore fans, but it does make sense that he may have to switch his clothes... What if his armor gets dirty?
I don't see a reason for it, but I suppose it's possible they could modernize his costume to some extent. I hope they don't, though. I like the contrast of Thor with old world armor alongside the other superheroes in their more modern costumes. That's part of who Thor is, after all.

[SpiderByte]

I was lookin at Fav's old Twitter posts, and I came across this:

I certainly did. RT @RyanPom (http://twitter.com/RyanPom): @Jon_Favreau (http://twitter.com/Jon_Favreau) Did you see Thor's Hammer?

Looks like Thor's hammers already got a design, along with the other costumes.

[afan]

I guess what I'm trying to say is... And I don't know a whole lot about Thor, but just because he always wears his mid-evil outfit in the comics, doesn't mean there won't be a time where he has to change his clothes, more modern. It may be a weird concept to hardcore fans, but it does make sense that he may have to switch his clothes... What if his armor gets dirty?

Well it is interesting in that Thor doesn't actually wear a costume as do other superheroes, it's just normal Asgardian battle dress. Isn't it reasonable then to assume that in his "down" time in Asgard he changes into something a little less battle ready, and if after being banished to Earth might we also see him, during his Midgard "down" time, wear something more casual?

[RogueDK]

Would it be out of the realm of possibility that during Thor's exile to Midgard that once he's befriended by Earthlings, he's introduced to a tshirt and jeans? Maybe a pair of Timberlands?

I just can't see them kicking him out of Asgard as if Odin gave him a chance to pack a suitcase first.

[Chewy]

Looks like Thor's hammers already got a design, along with the other costumes.
Of course it did, they are already filming :huh:

I'm sure his hammer was one of the first things they designed

[SpiderByte]

Yes, I know, so what I'm saying is we should be getting some pics soon of Thor and his Hammer.

[TheCorpulent1]

They just seemed to have clamped down pretty hard on security. I'm astonished nothing's leaked yet. Or maybe Thor is obscure enough that the entertainment press isn't pursuing leaks as doggedly as they might with other films...

Anyway, regarding Thor on Earth, who really cares what he wears in his down time? As long as the costume looks good and not Ultimate-ish, sure, have him throw on a t-shirt and jeans for a while as he tries to get used to being on Earth. Not a big deal.

[SpiderByte]

Their clampin down harder on Cap. Apart from the title, we have absolutely NOTHING. No cast, no director, nothin.

[marcvader]

Johnston is directing

[SpiderByte]

Oh.

Erm....

We have NOTHING but the name, and the director!
AT LEAST TELL US WHO RED SKULL WILL BE!

GRAAAAAGH! *throws chair*

jk

[Weadazoid]

Oh.

Erm....

We have NOTHING but the name, and the director!
AT LEAST TELL US WHO RED SKULL WILL BE!

GRAAAAAGH! *throws chair*

jk



At least let us know if the Red Skull is even in it... ya know?


But seriously we should see casting info soon, Cap may not require quite as much CGI as Thor but 2011 aint that far away.




On Thor... I would almost rather wait for the official promo pic, from Marvel, not some blurry cell phone shot, that will probably cause more problems then pleasure.....


but you know us hungry fans.... if some one got a shot we would be all over it, analyzing it, dreaming about it, then writing about all the things that are wrong and right with it...

all from a blurry shot.... that would get taken down in like maybe 10 minutes


but for that short time that it lands on AICN... people will talk and talk and talk....

[Webhead2006]

yea totally cant wait to we have first leaked/official photos. like folks said if marvel studios is going to go like they did with im and im2 we could probably have something official in another month or so.

[afan]

Assuming they are working on the set of Asgard first which most probably is indoors; security re. photos is probably very tight and easier to control. When ever the shooting moves outdoors on location the "blurry photos" should appear.

[afan]

They just seemed to have clamped down pretty hard on security. I'm astonished nothing's leaked yet. Or maybe Thor is obscure enough that the entertainment press isn't pursuing leaks as doggedly as they might with other films...

Anyway, regarding Thor on Earth, who really cares what he wears in his down time? As long as the costume looks good and not Ultimate-ish, sure, have him throw on a t-shirt and jeans for a while as he tries to get used to being on Earth. Not a big deal.

Nope not a big deal by any meansl, just some distracting speculation to pass the time.

[TheCorpulent1]

Assuming they are working on the set of Asgard first which most probably is indoors; security re. photos is probably very tight and easier to control. When ever the shooting moves outdoors on location the "blurry photos" should appear.
I'll take any kind of photos of the costume or the hammer. I really want to see what they've come up with for those.

[kedrell]

Just as long as it's an actual hammer and not some half hammer/half axe.

[RogueDK]

Assuming they are working on the set of Asgard first which most probably is indoors; security re. photos is probably very tight and easier to control. When ever the shooting moves outdoors on location the "blurry photos" should appear.
They can't be blurry enough if Hemsworth strides out in that awful Ultimate getup. :cmad:

I'll really take some blurry photos right about now as long as they got the helmet and red flowing cape down pat. :word: