Thor's costume

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm thinking the suit in the first film will resemble Night Owl in The Watchmen.



This isn't what I was talking about. 1. Captain America will no doubt receive a new suit from Stark, but it will be scale armor (with a potential flashy Stark paint job). 2. The only character with a power source to power a Stark suit is Thor. 3. The Iron Man films have established that all of Stark's villains are trying to emulate his exoskeleton suit-- I don't see the issue with one hero emulating his suit. 4. Just because Stark makes a suit for Thor, it doesn't mean it has to be a powered exoskeleton-- it could just mean a revision of his scaled armor.


I don't believe that they will take the super natural direction with this character. The super natural and science fiction are like oil and water. Thor should be a themed hero, not a literal god.


There are many potential scientific explanations for Thor's powers:

1. He is a posthuman who arrives from a Norse themed future; like Superman (except for the Norse part), who is perceived as being alien (as any God is alien to Earth) in origin.
2. He is a mutant. Any number of mutant/posthuman abilities could explain the true source of Thor's powers: he could be a technopath or mutant who can build anything (like Forge), he could have magnetism and lightning powers, he could have nearly invulnerable skin or cellular regeneration, he could have the ability to absorb power, etc.
3. He is a mutant who discovers the hammer (of speculative origin) or is led to the hammer during an expedition or is kidnapped by the American gov't and forced to show them how the hammer works (because they know about his powers over machines or power over metals).
4. He is a mutant who builds the hammer and uses it to power an exoskeleton suit (which he also builds)
5. He is a mutant who builds a scaled armor like Night Owl and uses his power of magnetism to fly, deflect bullets, lift otherwise heavy objects, control his hammer, etc.
6. The hammer's power source is inside of it and is the reason it perceived as heavy. I would potentially be some kind of super dense matter is inside, or a black hole.
7. And my favourite, Thor is a mentally divergent mutant who has delusions about being a Norse god in the 21st century (think Twelve Monkeys).
Absolutely any of these would be a guaranteed way to ensure that Marvel never sees another cent of my money for their movies. Thor is a god, period. It's worked in the comics for over 40 years; no reason it can't work in the films as well.

[Anubis Raptor]

I'm thinking the suit in the first film will resemble Night Owl in The Watchmen.



This isn't what I was talking about. 1. Captain America will no doubt receive a new suit from Stark, but it will be scale armor (with a potential flashy Stark paint job). 2. The only character with a power source to power a Stark suit is Thor. 3. The Iron Man films have established that all of Stark's villains are trying to emulate his exoskeleton suit-- I don't see the issue with one hero emulating his suit. 4. Just because Stark makes a suit for Thor, it doesn't mean it has to be a powered exoskeleton-- it could just mean a revision of his scaled armor.


I don't believe that they will take the super natural direction with this character. The super natural and science fiction are like oil and water. Thor should be a themed hero, not a literal god.


There are many potential scientific explanations for Thor's powers:

1. He is a posthuman who arrives from a Norse themed future; like Superman (except for the Norse part), who is perceived as being alien (as any God is alien to Earth) in origin.
2. He is a mutant. Any number of mutant/posthuman abilities could explain the true source of Thor's powers: he could be a technopath or mutant who can build anything (like Forge), he could have magnetism and lightning powers, he could have nearly invulnerable skin or cellular regeneration, he could have the ability to absorb power, etc.
3. He is a mutant who discovers the hammer (of speculative origin) or is led to the hammer during an expedition or is kidnapped by the American gov't and forced to show them how the hammer works (because they know about his powers over machines or power over metals).
4. He is a mutant who builds the hammer and uses it to power an exoskeleton suit (which he also builds)
5. He is a mutant who builds a scaled armor like Night Owl and uses his power of magnetism to fly, deflect bullets, lift otherwise heavy objects, control his hammer, etc.
6. The hammer's power source is inside of it and is the reason it perceived as heavy. I would potentially be some kind of super dense matter is inside, or a black hole.
7. And my favourite, Thor is a mentally divergent mutant who has delusions about being a Norse god in the 21st century (think Twelve Monkeys).

Thor isn't a mutant. He isn't even human.

[Gamma Burst]

Also,the very fact that Thor isn't human/mutant,but a mythical God(and warrior) from a land of Gods,opens up so many possibilities for stories that can't be told with your conventional super hero.And Marvel certainly knows that. ;)

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I don't think Marvel will downgrade Thor's status to that of a pretender. They've already said that Thor's movie provides a vehicle for interesting stuff that's unlike any other superhero film, and given the flood of superhero movies lately, anything that helps give another superhero film its own unique identity is a good thing.

[John Ryder]

Thor as a mutant would be quite boring.

[Gamma Burst]

Exactly.ALso,Kenneth Branagh seems like a big fan of the character.Can't see him making a movie about a pseudo-Thor.

[Anubis Raptor]

Thor as a mutant would be quite boring.

Very Boring.

[Aesop Rocks]

Absolutely any of these would be a guaranteed way to ensure that Marvel never sees another cent of my money for their movies. Thor is a god, period. It's worked in the comics for over 40 years; no reason it can't work in the films as well.

Actually...

[John Ryder]

That's what's so great about this. He really seems to be very familiar with the characters, backstory and everything.

[lixdexia]

Actually...
...go on?

[Aesop Rocks]

Well, the reason Thor worked so well in the comic is because well, that's what it is, a comic. Thor never really, IMO was a mainstream character. I know he's popular and whatnot but go up to the person it matters most, the general audience member and say "So, what do you think of Thor?". They'll be like "Who is that?". You'll describe him and they'll say "They're making a movie about a flying viking? Screw that!". The general audience doesn't care that he's a God, or any of that. The general audience gives movies like Transformers: ROTF a standing ovation and slowly walks out silent at the end of TDK. That's the general audience.

[lixdexia]

Well, the reason Thor worked so well in the comic is because well, that's what it is, a comic. Thor never really, IMO was a mainstream character. I know he's popular and whatnot but go up to the person it matters most, the general audience member and say "So, what do you think of Thor?". They'll be like "Who is that?". You'll describe him and they'll say "They're making a movie about a flying viking? Screw that!". The general audience doesn't care that he's a God, or any of that. The general audience gives movies like Transformers: ROTF a standing ovation and slowly walks out silent at the end of TDK. That's the general audience.
eh, i think you're a bit biased against them. thor will do well in it's key demographic, as t:rotf shows 18-24 yr old men love watching **** blow up and fighting which i doubt will be lacking in thor. and again, as t:rotf shows, the ga can dismiss a terrible story for explosions, so if it's got the explosions then how can having the story center around gods rather than aliens really hurt it? (although if we want to get technical the gods here ARE aliens, the shapeshifting eternals bound to a single form (or i that just earth x continuity?))

[Anubis Raptor]

Well, the reason Thor worked so well in the comic is because well, that's what it is, a comic. Thor never really, IMO was a mainstream character. I know he's popular and whatnot but go up to the person it matters most, the general audience member and say "So, what do you think of Thor?". They'll be like "Who is that?". You'll describe him and they'll say "They're making a movie about a flying viking? Screw that!". The general audience doesn't care that he's a God, or any of that. The general audience gives movies like Transformers: ROTF a standing ovation and slowly walks out silent at the end of TDK. That's the general audience.

Well said but you know marvel studios almost always comes up with an atleast passable (i repeat atleast passable) origin story that makes the film more believable and from what I hear, the origin story for Thor sounds pretty damn awesome.

[Aesop Rocks]

eh, i think you're a bit biased against them. thor will do well in it's key demographic, as t:rotf shows 18-24 yr old men love watching **** blow up and fighting which i doubt will be lacking in thor. and again, as t:rotf shows, the ga can dismiss a terrible story for explosions, so if it's got the explosions then how can having the story center around gods rather than aliens really hurt it? (although if we want to get technical the gods here ARE aliens, the shapeshifting eternals bound to a single form (or i that just earth x continuity?))

But this is the key thing between Thor and Transformers. Robots. Robots are goddamn awesome, Bay knew that, that's why he ruined made Transformers. Thor is LITERALLY in the eyes of the GA a Viking with a hammer. Which the GA would lose interest in if they're not sold on the trailers. This movie, sadly, needs to sell more to the GA than it does the fanboys. Luckily I'm not a fanboy. :cwink:

Well said but you know marvel studios almost always comes up with an atleast passable (i repeat atleast passable) origin story that makes the film more believable.

Yeah, I know they have something great. I mean, I read the first draft of Thor and it was perfect, save a few things which could be easily changed.

[thorstone]

As I've already said, preserve the theme. You don't insert magic into science fiction.

Everything can be explained by science, even the mythological character of Thor. Thor has weapons in the mythos that are created by non human entities-- he uses multiple technologies which supply him with his power: he wears gauntlets which allow him to wield his hammer and he wears a belt which gives him strength. Even the mythological character requires exoskeleton technology to supply him with super human strength.

What is important is that his powers are explained.
A posthuman can be every bit as as powerful as the mythological Thor, without magic. The layman sees a god, the scientist sees a posthuman with extraordinary powers (and perhaps some mental issues).

[lixdexia]

But this is the key thing between Thor and Transformers. Robots. Robots are goddamn awesome, Bay knew that, that's why he ruined made Transformers. Thor is LITERALLY in the eyes of the GA a Viking with a hammer. Which the GA would lose interest in if they're not sold on the trailers. This movie, sadly, needs to sell more to the GA than it does the fanboys. Luckily I'm not a fanboy. :cwink: damnit...robots ARE awesome:csad:

but yeah, the marketing on this movie does need to be really good, but what non-sequel blockbuster CAN'T that be said about?

As I've already said, all that is important is the theme. You don't insert magic into science fiction.

Everything can be explained by science, even the mythological character of Thor. Thor has weapons in the mythos that are created by non human entities-- he uses multiple technologies which supply him with his power: he wears gauntlets which allow him to wield his hammer and he wears a belt which gives him strength. Even the mythological character requires exoskeleton technology to supply him with super human strength.

What is important is that his powers are explained.
A posthuman can be every bit as as powerful as the mythological Thor, without magic.but we're not dealing with the mythological character, we're dealing with the comic character, whom though they share quite a few similarities are different from one another. i could be mistaken, but comic thor doesn't need gauntlets to withstand mjolnir's heat, nor a special girdle to lift it.

and how is saying he's a mutant or he's got special technology or he's an alien any more of an explanation than his being a god? stories about gods have a rich history in every medium, it's not going to be the make or break factor for the movie.

[Gamma Burst]

I don't agree.Thor belongs to a race of super powered/magical beings.He's,thus, a supernatural being.Science doesn't have to explain what's supernatural.

[Gamma Burst]

i could be mistaken, but comic thor doesn't need gauntlets to withstand mjolnir's heat, nor a special girdle to lift it.



You're not mistaken.He doesn't need them in the comics.:word:

[Anubis Raptor]

I don't agree.Thor belongs to a race of super powered/magical beings.He's,thus, a supernatural being.Science doesn't have to explain what's supernatural.


I agree but Feige said that its science and not magic/spiritual.

[Aesop Rocks]

When I found out they're replacing the magic with science, for the sake of realism, I almost cried...

[Gamma Burst]

I agree but Feige said that its science and not magic/spiritual.

He probably means ''advanced enough technology indistinguishable from magic'',right?
Btw,where did He say it?

[lixdexia]

When I found out they're replacing the magic with science, for the sake of realism, I almost cried...
eh, i don't know if i believe that or not. i'll wait till we know more about it to decide if they've jumped the shark to make it "realistic"

i hate that term though, as absolutely no superhero movie is realistic.

[Artistsean]

Found these on Comicvine.com
This was, I think, labeled as a possible concept sketch for the movie. But maybe its not and maybe they are showing it because they aren't using it:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/Thor/1140216-500x_holy_switcheroo___thor.jpg

Comicvine again, but this wasn't labeled as a movie costume. It just looks like a realistic take on it. I wouldn't mind if they used this:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/Thor/1196901-thor_1_super.jpg

Sketches I found in the back of a graphic novel at Barnes and Noble:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/Thor/0315002046a2.jpg
Its hard to see, because I took it with my cell phone, but he has an armored chest plate.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/Thor/03150020462.jpg

[Gamma Burst]

Actually,the second pic is art from the new Thor:the Mighty Avenger,a new ongoing series.

[lixdexia]

Comicvine again, but this wasn't labeled as a movie costume. It just looks like a realistic take on it. I wouldn't mind if they used this:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/Thor/1196901-thor_1_super.jpg

wow, aside from the hood and weird helmet this is my favorite thor design ever:woot:

[Webhead2006]

thorstone i dont really see the need to make thor into a mutant.

[Gamma Burst]

Yeah,I enjoyed it very much!

[thorstone]

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/01/28/thor-to-be-more-science-than-fantasy-says-marvel-studios-president/

The direction that they are taking is metaphysical direction-- not magic. It's fifth and sixth dimensional science; maybe a little too deep, but it's science. Considering this, he may have a more advanced armor than Stark, or he may be an over man.


but we're not dealing with the mythological character

So there is no need for magic at any point.

[Gamma Burst]

It's like what I've said before.Asgardians will probably shown as an incredibly advanced so that We won't be able to distinguish their science from magic.

[lixdexia]

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/01/28/thor-to-be-more-science-than-fantasy-says-marvel-studios-president/

The direction that they are taking is metaphysical direction-- not magic. It's fifth and sixth dimensional science; maybe a little too deep, but it's science. Considering this, he may have a more advanced armor than Stark, or he may be an over man. having read the article it says this...they're following the story from the comics. they're changing the story to make it scientific, they're saying it already IS science. thor is a god, end of story.




So there is no need for magic at any point.
this depends entirely on your definition of "magic", which i feel may be the hicup here.

[Webhead2006]

yea i think they will be displayed in asgard that their abilities are via their science and tech in their world. But in midgard and the other realms their science will seem to be like magic to us mere mortals.

[thorstone]

It's like what I've said before.Asgardians will probably shown as an incredibly advanced so that We won't be able to distinguish their science from magic.

Terms like mutant and Asgardian are just pulp terms for posthumans and transhumans.

Asgardian = aryan

[Gamma Burst]

Well,I have read marvel comics for a long time and I don't remember anything about Asgardians being a pulp term for transhumans,as you've said.
They are a race of gods.The same could be said about the olympians,egyptian gods,etc.
They don't even share the same characteristics.

[Vartha]

the only place I've heard anything close to that is Earth X and this isn't about Earth X

[Anubis Raptor]

According to Feige, the film does a pretty good job of explaining how Thor's world connects to ours. I am sure they did a good job with this.

[Gamma Burst]

I'm also confident,Anubis.

[Ace of Knaves]

I'm thinking the suit in the first film will resemble Night Owl in The Watchmen.



This isn't what I was talking about. 1. Captain America will no doubt receive a new suit from Stark, but it will be scale armor (with a potential flashy Stark paint job). 2. The only character with a power source to power a Stark suit is Thor. 3. The Iron Man films have established that all of Stark's villains are trying to emulate his exoskeleton suit-- I don't see the issue with one hero emulating his suit. 4. Just because Stark makes a suit for Thor, it doesn't mean it has to be a powered exoskeleton-- it could just mean a revision of his scaled armor.


I don't believe that they will take the super natural direction with this character. The super natural and science fiction are like oil and water. Thor should be a themed hero, not a literal god.


There are many potential scientific explanations for Thor's powers:

1. He is a posthuman who arrives from a Norse themed future; like Superman (except for the Norse part), who is perceived as being alien (as any God is alien to Earth) in origin.
2. He is a mutant. Any number of mutant/posthuman abilities could explain the true source of Thor's powers: he could be a technopath or mutant who can build anything (like Forge), he could have magnetism and lightning powers, he could have nearly invulnerable skin or cellular regeneration, he could have the ability to absorb power, etc.
3. He is a mutant who discovers the hammer (of speculative origin) or is led to the hammer during an expedition or is kidnapped by the American gov't and forced to show them how the hammer works (because they know about his powers over machines or power over metals).
4. He is a mutant who builds the hammer and uses it to power an exoskeleton suit (which he also builds)
5. He is a mutant who builds a scaled armor like Night Owl and uses his power of magnetism to fly, deflect bullets, lift otherwise heavy objects, control his hammer, etc.
6. The hammer's power source is inside of it and is the reason it perceived as heavy. I would potentially be some kind of super dense matter is inside, or a black hole.
7. And my favourite, Thor is a mentally divergent mutant who has delusions about being a Norse god in the 21st century (think Twelve Monkeys).

Thor as a mutant? Dear god no, just, no. :dry: There is too many ****ing mutants running around as is.

Thor is a god, simple as that. There is no reason why it can't work.

You can show the publics reaction to him in the film. They might not consider him a god. Perhaps they think he is just another superhuman but has gone crazy and actually believes he is a god or something.

Maybe even Stark and co could be skeptical at first. Like "Is this guy serious? He thinks he is a god?"

Then obviously Thor shows what he is all about. He proves he is divine.

[roach]

the point of the Avengers is that each of the characters brings something to the table.....and for those people who dont believe magic has a place in a sci fi movie..let me direct you to a little film called Star Wars...the Force is just a scientific name for magic

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, and when they tried to explain it with midichlorians, fans generally hated it because magic is fun and magic, in the right context, can be cool. See: Harry Potter, Dracula, King Arthur, Lord of the Rings, and various other things. I don't care what thorstone wants to add onto the back-end of magic in his head to make it sensible to him; I want the movie to call the Asgardians gods and leave it at that. Start explaining them and they lose an essential element of their mystique. It's not about science vs. mysticism, it's about fiction and fun. Gods walking the Earth is a cool concept and it's part of what makes Thor unique among the superhero set. Bog it down with explanations for yourself all you want, but let the audience enjoy the mystique and splendor of magic and gods who walk among men on the screen.

[roach]

Yeah, and when they tried to explain it with midichlorians, fans generally hated it because magic is fun and magic, in the right context, can be cool. See: Harry Potter, Dracula, King Arthur, Lord of the Rings, and various other things. I don't care what thorstone wants to add onto the back-end of magic in his head to make it sensible to him; I want the movie to call the Asgardians gods and leave it at that. Start explaining them and they lose an essential element of their mystique. It's not about science vs. mysticism, it's about fiction and fun. Gods walking the Earth is a cool concept and it's part of what makes Thor unique among the superhero set. Bog it down with explanations for yourself all you want, but let the audience enjoy the mystique and splendor of magic and gods who walk among men on the screen.

Agreed. I see this as the by product of the current superhero movie mentality where everything has to be explained. No one called for explanations in Clash of the Titans...other than an explanation to that terrible story. So why do we have to explain Thor now??

[Webhead2006]

totally agree with you guys it should just be gods and leave it at that.

[Anubis Raptor]

Maybe even Stark and co could be skeptical at first. Like "Is this guy serious? He thinks he is a god?"

Then obviously Thor shows what he is all about. He proves he is divine.

Yes!

[Vartha]

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/01/28/thor-to-be-more-science-than-fantasy-says-marvel-studios-president/

The direction that they are taking is metaphysical direction-- not magic. It's fifth and sixth dimensional science; maybe a little too deep, but it's science. Considering this, he may have a more advanced armor than Stark, or he may be an over man.




So there is no need for magic at any point.

Fiege say they aren't going into the MYTHICAL Thor, that's a completely different Thor from Marvel's Thor.
Asgardians at Marvel are a cross of magic and Science, which is why Lee and Kirby's Thor and Asgard were more modern or furturistic looking.
There are in SOME ways a science to them but the energy they all come from in the Marvel universe IS magically based.
With Odin it's called the Odin Force, with the new Run it's the Thor Force, still a fledling energy because it is new to it's owner.
Odin has complete control over that power or energy. They call it magic, weather you view it as science or not you can't yet make things from air like Odin can with that energy.

[John Ryder]

So there is no need for magic at any point.
Exactly, what kind of weird audience would want that boring crap. :whatever:

[thorstone]

I post the link with the guy saying, it's going to be science fiction, and you guys still try to argue he is going to be magical.

Denial is one of the five stages of grief.

the point of the Avengers is that each of the characters brings something to the table.....and for those people who dont believe magic has a place in a sci fi movie..let me direct you to a little film called Star Wars...the Force is just a scientific name for magic


The force is metaphysical-- it's not magic.

The force is energy-- life creates it. You are not solid, it is "the force" which gives you your solidity. And in Star Wars this force can be controlled by a minute percentage of the population who display abilities like telekinesis, clairvoyance, clairsentience, empathic abilities, and electrokinetic flares.

The force is deep science, something the lay person views as magic, but science fiction is full of things like overminds, Matrixes, 5th dimensions, posthumanism, and omega point theory.

[Vartha]

Who said it's NOT magic Thorstone? It says there's science yes,


"We're not doing the blow-the-dust-off-of-the-old-Norse-book-in-your-library 'Thor,'" said Feige. "And in the 'Thor' of the Marvel Universe, there's a race called the Asgardians. And we're linked through this Tree of Life that we're unaware of. It's real science, but we don't know about it yet. The 'Thor' movie is about teaching people that."


Magic IS a science, one we humans can't explain yet.

[Gamma Burst]

Feige only said they're not doing 'the original Norse Thor',but they're doing the Marvel version,who is mix of mythology and sci-fi,as we can see from the comics.
I don't see where he said Thor and asgardians are not gods.
So,I guess you're the one in denial here...
But if you want to go on with your fantasy of a cyborg-mutant-alien with a eletronic hammer Thor...

[Gamma Burst]

Who said it's NOT magic Thorstone? It says there's science yes,



Magic IS a science, one we humans can't explain yet.

Give up,Vartha.I offered this explanation before,but He ignores it.

[thorstone]

"Marvel executive spoke about "Thor" and its inclination towards science fiction rather than fantasy."

"we're linked through this Tree of Life that we're unaware of. It's real science, but we don't know about it yet. The 'Thor' movie is about teaching people that"


The serious science that he is talking about is fifth dimensional science, and the 'Thor' film will provide exposition explaining the science that the audience must be educated on, because it is true that the audience is ignorant to the origin of this character and his powers.

[roach]

From an interview:
So what’s the appeal of 'Thor,' Kenneth? "To work on a story about one of the immortals, Gods, extraordinary beings, inter-dimensional creatures," he enthused. He continued excitedly, "There’s science fiction and science fact and fantasy all woven into one. It’s based on Norse legends which Marvel sort of raided in a brilliant way."

[Gamma Burst]

Good post,roach.

[Anubis Raptor]

He probably means ''advanced enough technology indistinguishable from magic'',right?
Btw,where did He say it?

http://screencrave.com/2010-01-27/kevin-feige-talks-upcoming-marvel-slate/

:yay:

[TheCorpulent1]

The force is metaphysical-- it's not magic.

The force is energy-- life creates it. You are not solid, it is "the force" which gives you your solidity. And in Star Wars this force can be controlled by a minute percentage of the population who display abilities like telekinesis, clairvoyance, clairsentience, empathic abilities, and electrokinetic flares.

The force is deep science, something the lay person views as magic, but science fiction is full of things like overminds, Matrixes, 5th dimensions, posthumanism, and omega point theory.
And pretty much no one cares about that because functionally the Force is presented as magic and most people happily accept it as such without a problem, in spite of your insistence that magic can absolutely, positively, never, ever, ever, ever be successful in a movie that contains sci fi elements alongside it. I fully expect them to do the same with Thor. You can explain it to yourself however you like--and I'm sure you will because you seem incredibly concerned about this sort of thing--but for the other 99% of the audience, it'll most likely be presented and accepted as magic without a problem. Thor will most likely be presented as a god and it'll be left at that because, again, the movies tend to stay true to the spirit of the comics, and the spirit of Thor as a character has always, always, always been a story about the nature of man vs. god and what each can learn from the other. All the other stuff, like whether you call the hammer returning to his hand magic or subconscious telekinesis, is just semantics.

[roach]

From an interview with Fav on one of the reasons why he passed on Avengers:

Favreau told MTV that his focus on a single member of "Earth's Mightiest Heroes" might not be the best fit for the team-up film. "It's going to be hard, because I was so involved in creating the world of Iron Man and Iron Man is very much a tech-based hero, and then with 'Avengers' you're going to be introducing some supernatural aspects because of Thor," he said. Though the mix works well on the pages of a comic, he said, translating that to the big screen might be more difficult. "You need somebody who has the perspective of all the different franchises to bring them together."

[thorstone]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/nemo_83/thor_concept3.jpg

Pencil rough draft of scale armor.

[thorstone]

From an interview with Fav on one of the reasons why he passed on Avengers:

Favreau told MTV that his focus on a single member of "Earth's Mightiest Heroes" might not be the best fit for the team-up film. "It's going to be hard, because I was so involved in creating the world of Iron Man and Iron Man is very much a tech-based hero, and then with 'Avengers' you're going to be introducing some supernatural aspects because of Thor," he said. Though the mix works well on the pages of a comic, he said, translating that to the big screen might be more difficult. "You need somebody who has the perspective of all the different franchises to bring them together."

That is from an older interview I believe, and he is speculating how they will remove the supernatural **** to make it fit with the sci fi story of Avengers.

P.S. These servers are the worst in all of the internet. By the time the page loads, I'm logged out and have to log back in to fix typos.

[roach]

He did not speculate on removing the mystical aspects of Thor to make it fit and its a recent interview...considering that he is Executive Producing Avengers I think he know what he is talking about.

[SpiderByte]

http://static.gamecrazy.com/images/games/screenshots/pre_marvel.jpg

MUA2 is still my fave for Thor and Deadpool.

[thorstone]

He did not speculate on removing the mystical aspects of Thor to make it fit and its a recent interview...considering that he is Executive Producing Avengers I think he know what he is talking about.

I remember reading the interview. He was talking about how Thor is a massive wrench in the plot and how he was still working out how they were going to fit him in there. The ultimate solution: inter-dimensional travel.

Will they get into the specifics of where this 5th dimensional voyager's powers come from, I can't say. But he isn't expressing any powers that aren't expressed by mortal posthumans already.


Powers argument aside-- what do you think of the new armor?

[roach]

if he did that wasnt in the interview I posted that from.

[thorstone]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/nemo_83/thor_concept4.jpg
Experimenting with colors.

[Anubis Raptor]

That would be really badass if Thor actually looked like that.

[Anubis Raptor]

lag=double post

[Gamma Burst]

I think it's a nice design.However,the hammer is terrible,imo.

[Ace of Knaves]

That is from an older interview I believe, and he is speculating how they will remove the supernatural **** to make it fit with the sci fi story of Avengers.

P.S. These servers are the worst in all of the internet. By the time the page loads, I'm logged out and have to log back in to fix typos.

He doesn't say that... at all. Where are you getting this **** from? Your imagination?

He says marrying the sci fi elements of Iron Man and the supernatural elements of Thor will be difficult. And that he isn't the right man for the job because he has been solely focusing on the sci fi of Iron Man. Same way Branagh wouldn't be right because he has been solely focusing on the supernatural of Thor.

He says you need someone from the outside who can see both sides without bias or already ingrained styles. Then blend them together without one side being more in focus than the other.

[hugekent]

Gloves look terrible on Thor I reckon. They look fine on basically every other Asgardian, but they look wrong on Thor.

[thorstone]

I modeled the hammer after a bombshell/bullet. I don't know what I'm going to do with the colors-- I need to go shop for some new markers.

He doesn't say that... at all. Where are you getting this **** from? Your imagination?

He says marrying the sci fi elements of Iron Man and the supernatural elements of Thor will be difficult. And that he isn't the right man for the job because he has been solely focusing on the sci fi of Iron Man. Same way Branagh wouldn't be right because he has been solely focusing on the supernatural of Thor.

He says you need someone from the outside who can see both sides without bias or already ingrained styles. Then blend them together without one side being more in focus than the other.


"Though the mix works well on the pages of a comic, he said, translating that to the big screen might be more difficult."

I'm exhausted with debating the origin of the powers-- I have faith in Favreau not to turn this into a fanboy film with a sleevless Thor wearing wrist bands and carrying a hammer that looks like he bought it on Ebay.

[roach]

you know for someone who took the name of Thor you dont seem to have a lot of faith in the character

[Anubis Raptor]

you know for someone who took the name of Thor you dont seem to have a lot of faith in the character

I was thinking the same thing.

[Gamma Burst]

Actually,he doesn't seem to have a clue about what the character really is.
And this 'bullet-hammer'...LOL

[Gamma Burst]

Double post.

[thorstone]

you know for someone who took the name of Thor you dont seem to have a lot of faith in the character

I have faith in the character to be properly interpreted for the big screen and not turn into this:

http://chud.com/articles/content_images/5/thor_hulk.jpg

[roach]

Actually,he doesn't seem to have a clue about what the character really is.
And this 'bullet-hammer'...LOL

well I was being nice:woot:

[Gamma Burst]

There's no reason to make comparisons between an old,cheap and made for TV movie and a super production in 2011 where you'll get FXs from ILM,mate...Two completely different situations.
I'm sure marvel will come up with something great.

[Vartha]

Well Thorstone, like Spidey Jason mentioned the old made for tv movie is far from what they can do today, they've also mentioned that the costumes look period, which means they'll look more like what the recent run in the comics look like. A MODERN interpretation of Norse clothing, not even CLOSE to what you've drawn.
PLATE maile can't be skin tight in real life or you won't be able to move.

[Gamma Burst]

That's one of the best things from the JMS' Thor:the new clothing.It'll certainly translate much better to the big screen than the original costume,imo.

[thorstone]

Well Thorstone, like Spidey Jason mentioned the old made for tv movie is far from what they can do today, they've also mentioned that the costumes look period, which means they'll look more like what the recent run in the comics look like. A MODERN interpretation of Norse clothing, not even CLOSE to what you've drawn.
PLATE maile can't be skin tight in real life or you won't be able to move.

I already established that I was designing a sci fi style armor. I have no interest in seeing a period costume-- it's Norse themed; not literal Norse.

http://media.filmschoolrejects.com/images/nightowl.jpg

If you want to see a period costume, watch The 13th Warrior.

[Captain America]

That's one of the best things from the JMS' Thor:the new clothing.It'll certainly translate much better to the big screen than the original costume,imo.

For the most part, I agree :up: Except for the beard in JMS' :woot: or lack of beard rather, Thor needs a beard :awesome:

[Gamma Burst]

For the most part, I agree :up: Except for the beard in JMS' :woot: or lack of beard rather, Thor needs a beard :awesome:

I don't mind the beard,actually.I think Thor looks badass with or without it.:yay:

[Gamma Burst]

I already established that I was designing a sci fi style armor. I have no interest in seeing a period costume-- it's Norse themed; not literal Norse.

Thor's costume in comics is norse themed and definitely not literal norse.

[Captain America]

I don't mind the beard,actually.I think Thor looks badass with or without it.:yay:

To true :thor::up:

[The Count]

Found this. may be rubbish but gives me hope

http://marvelousnews.com/index.php?catid=23&itemid=13032

[TheCorpulent1]

Found this. may be rubbish but gives me hope

http://marvelousnews.com/index.php?catid=23&itemid=13032
That's a toy based on the Ages of Thunder mini-series. It says as much on the first pic.

[Vartha]

Yeah I posted that awhile ago in the Thor Toys thread in the Thor World section here.

[Vartha]

Heh I watch 13th Warrior regularly. I've made my own Ring Malie, I worked at a Renaissance faire for 13 years.
I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to alot of this stuff.


I already established that I was designing a sci fi style armor. I have no interest in seeing a period costume-- it's Norse themed; not literal Norse.

http://media.filmschoolrejects.com/images/nightowl.jpg

If you want to see a period costume, watch The 13th Warrior.

[thorstone]

http://www.runewebvitki.com/13thWarrior.jpg

As far as realistic Norse costume design goes on film-- I don't believe it gets much better than The 13th Warrior. But as I said, I'm designing science fiction-- the chest armor could translate over, but you can't create a 21st century super hero who wears fur.

I posted Night Owl to show what can be done with modern plastics which can be made to look like metal. The actor didn't seem to have any flexibility issues in that film.

Edit: It took 12 minutes between finishing this post, logging back in, and it actually posting-- that's got to be a record.

[marcvader]

I doubt Thor will be sporting fur and most of Marvel's depictions of Thor and the rest of the Asgardians have some modern motifs, not straight Norse like in 13th Warrior.

[Vartha]

No but the 13th Warrior has great examples of period armor.
If you look in the background the guy on the far left is wearing plate maile. That's just and example.

[Webhead2006]

yea i am sure thor's costume will be just fine, and as for fav that interview was from awhile ago, and sure he probably didnt he he was the best suited guy. so you got ot give it to him and be honest saying he might not be the best guy for the job. i am sure whedon will do good on avengers, and will look to fav to make sure he doesnt muck up what fav done with ironman, same with ll and joe for hulk and cap and kenneth for thor.

[TheCorpulent1]

As far as realistic Norse costume design goes on film-- I don't believe it gets much better than The 13th Warrior. But as I said, I'm designing science fiction-- the chest armor could translate over, but you can't create a 21st century super hero who wears fur.
But that's the point, Thor's not a 21st-century superhero. Part of his appeal is the contrast of a very old-world warrior in a modern-day world.

[thorstone]

Oh servers.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/nemo_83/thor_red.jpg

[lixdexia]

i like the shoulder armor there, and the gloves...but not for thor.

also, WHY can't you create a modern superhero who wears fur?

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Because it's politically incorrect to wear fur these days! How can you make your costume out of slaughtered animals and call your self a super hero?

[Vartha]

i like the shoulder armor there, and the gloves...but not for thor.

also, WHY can't you create a modern superhero who wears fur?


Werewolf by night, manwolf, Black Cat, Kraven the hunter, vulture just to name a few.

[roach]

Captain Caveman

[Vartha]

hahahaha

[lixdexia]

Werewolf by night, manwolf, Black Cat, Kraven the hunter, vulture just to name a few.
yes, those are all characters with fur (well, only 2 are applicable, as both the werewolves grow their own and the vulture doesn't have any (feathers:cwink:)) but my question was WHY he thought a character couldn't wear fur, not who does.

[roach]

Vulture had fur around his neck

[lixdexia]

some artists draw it as fur, but its supposed to be feathers.

either way, insult was not my intent

[Vartha]

None Taken Lix. lol
We were giving examples. Another two are the Grizzly and Razorback for fur WEARERS.
:D

[TheCorpulent1]

yes, those are all characters with fur (well, only 2 are applicable, as both the werewolves grow their own and the vulture doesn't have any (feathers:cwink:)) but my question was WHY he thought a character couldn't wear fur, not who does.

thorstone seems a bit obsessed with taking Thor away from the magic and myth that have traditionally formed his niche for the movie. I guess fur goes along with that.

[thorstone]

Because it's politically incorrect to wear fur these days! How can you make your costume out of slaughtered animals and call your self a super hero?

That's reason enough.

[Shivsguy616]

Because it's politically incorrect to wear fur these days! How can you make your costume out of slaughtered animals and call your self a super hero?

:doh:

Yeah, 'cause I've never seen a superhero who wears leather...

[SpiderByte]

Because fur looks incredibly stupid?

[Vartha]

:doh:

Yeah, 'cause I've never seen a superhero who wears leather...
Ghost Rider, Dare Devil, X-Men, all leather clad movie heroes. :D

[lixdexia]

thorstone seems a bit obsessed with taking Thor away from the magic and myth that have traditionally formed his niche for the movie. I guess fur goes along with that. yes, but i was trying to give him an oppertunity to expound on his thought process as opposed to us continuing to tell him "no" and "that's wrong." it seems my attempt was wasted.

That's reason enough.so hitting people with a hammer, one shaped like a bullet, is ok but wearing fur is a no go?

[The_Mighty_Thor]

:doh:

Yeah, 'cause I've never seen a superhero who wears leather...

We eat cows, might as well use the leather rather than waste it.




so hitting people with a hammer, one shaped like a bullet, is ok but wearing fur is a no go?

He'd only be hitting supervillians out to conquer or destroy the world, that's OK!

[thorstone]

Aside from the fact it would look ridiculous:
http://www.imnotobsessed.com/files/legacy/2007/11/blood-sex-city1.jpg



I really want to stay away from leather-- that's why I suggested armor.
Regardless of the costume in the Thor film; all of the character designs will advance in the Avengers film-- Iron Man will have more suits; Captain America will have a new suit; and the Hulk will be updated:

http://z.about.com/d/comicbooks/1/0/1/V/grayhulk.jpg

[lixdexia]

Aside from the fact it would look ridiculous
that's not a fact, that is an opinion
PETA people are insane, it's a reality we live in.
They seem to really only care about cute cuddly animals. that's a gross generalization. yes there are radical mebers of PETA just as there are in any group, but that doesn't make them all radical. A group of radical muslims in somalia just declared that all music and film are un-islamic, should these elements be abandoned so as to cater to this group?

folks will make the movie they want to make with little regard to which special interest groups it will piss off.
I really want to stay away from leather-- that's why I suggested armor. fair enough. i however want a fair bit of leather in both thor and cap's costumes, hell they must have used an entire cow on fury's coat alone.
All of the character designs will advance in the Avengers film; Iron Man will have more suits; Captain America will have a new suit; and the Hulk will be updated: you know this for a fact?

you're jumping the gun with your assumptions.

[Spider-Vader]

Ghost Rider, Dare Devil, X-Men, all leather clad movie heroes. :D

Also, all movies that sucked... Besides X2.

Aside from the fact it would look ridiculous:


I really want to stay away from leather-- that's why I suggested armor.
Regardless of the costume in the Thor film; all of the character designs will advance in the Avengers film-- Iron Man will have more suits; Captain America will have a new suit; and the Hulk will be updated:


I highly doubt Marvel would change Hulk from the green color that EVERYONE knows of to the gray that only comic readers know about.

[roach]

I recommend the Directors cut to DD

[lixdexia]

I recommend the Directors cut to DD
i recommend punching ben afleck in the face. the DC is alot better, but it's still ****.

[Vartha]

Like it or not thorstone, Thor's still a viking god, even at marvel he wouldn't let ANY part of an animal be waisted after they had eatten the meat.
I don't see anything looking like Star Wars, Star trek involved in Avengers. It's already been metioned that Cap's outfit will change twice in the First Avenger and if they keep the modern origin I can see it changing at least 3 times total.
Hulk if and when they decide on a new script wouldn't change too much.
ALL the appearances of Thor in the comics point to the Coipel look, that means more than likely the characters WITH FUR will have FUR.

[Vartha]

i recommend punching ben afleck in the face. the DC is alot better, but it's still ****.
Still haven't seen the DC of DD yet. I do have the regular DD movie tho.

[thorstone]

They redesign Iron Man's suit like three times in each film; what would lead anyone to believe there won't be design advancements between films for any of the other characters.

I highly doubt Marvel would change Hulk from the green color that EVERYONE knows of to the gray that only comic readers know about.

All it requires is a little exposition from Banner like in the comics-- sometimes he turns green; sometimes it's gray, but it opens the door for a redesign (and hence hype for the unveiling of the new design).

[thorstone]

that's not a fact, that is an opinion
that's a gross generalization. yes there are radical mebers of PETA just as there are in any group, but that doesn't make them all radical. A group of radical muslims in somalia just declared that all music and film are un-islamic, should these elements be abandoned so as to cater to this group?

folks will make the movie they want to make with little regard to which special interest groups it will piss off.
fair enough. i however want a fair bit of leather in both thor and cap's costumes, hell they must have used an entire cow on fury's coat alone.
you know this for a fact?

you're jumping the gun with your assumptions.

I withdrew the statement... but only because I thought the image alone spoke more of their insanity. I can call them names all day but nothing I say can do more damage than just showing what they do.

If you want to get extreme about animals being killed, go fight the Japanese for killing whales-- they'll get extreme right back at you and sink your boat.

[roach]

I'd like Thor to wear fur just so they can have someone try to throw blood on him and get smiitted verily

[lixdexia]

They redesign Iron Man's suit like three times in each film; what would lead anyone to believe there won't be design advancements between films for any of the other characters.because that's ironman's thing, he gets a redesign about every other year in the comics too. other characters do not get redesigned as often and hopefully won't as much on screen.

I withdrew the statement... but only because I thought the image alone spoke more of their insanity. I can call them names all day but nothing I say can do more damage than just showing what they do. you're showing what some people do, not the association. on a related note; parents groups, which like PETA have a past full of members creating public disturbances, have been up in arms over the character hit girl in the movie kick-ass. their outrage did not affect the film.

the PETA argument is moot. you don't want thor wear fur because you don't want thor wearing fur, and these meek attempts at rationalizing your view are silly. not wanting fur is fine, just admit that it's you who doesn't want it.

If you want to get extreme about animals being killed, go fight the Japanese for killing whales-- they'll get extreme right back at you and sink your boat.what the hell does that have to do with the price of beans in china?

[roach]

what the hell does that have to do with the price of beans in china?

In china they use beans to lure Whales to their nets:woot:

[lixdexia]

In china they use beans to lure Whales to their nets:woot:
:hehe: i did not know whales enjoyed beans:oldrazz:

[roach]

they love Taco Bell

[3atman]

bottom line about PETA is 90% of their money goes to advertising, because of that they can't afford to keep as many animals as they could and euthanize a crapload of animals, they compare eating meat to the hollocaust, their leaders fund terrorism, their president said she's against animal testing for medicine (even though one of her vice presidents is, I believe, hypoglycemic and without animal testing she'd be dead), as well as saying she is against animals for our entertainment of any kind, which means, circus animals to pets, no animals as entertainment. So, even if you are the nicest person in the world, if you support PETA, or are a member of PETA, you are an ass and should get off that bandwagon and be slapped for being so naive.


Well, now that that's out of the way. I just wanna see a really badass thor costume, as long as everyone's all fits and we have a common theme and it's not random willy nilly out there I'm cool with it.

[Webhead2006]

as for avengers, i say hulk will probably be the same as we saw in TIH, ironman sure will likely have a few different suits by the main look will probably be the standard ironman v3 looking suit design. As for thor i doubt he will change between thor/avengers. Plus from what we know it does look like for thor they will be going around with the copoil design for the movie. As for cap, yea we know for first avenger he will have two suits uso/based off the early kirby costume, and a second suit when he is out in battlefield. As for in avengers i do think he will probably get a modern/sleaked suit styled more off modern captain america costume.

[Shivsguy616]

Ghost Rider, Dare Devil, X-Men, all leather clad movie heroes. :D

That's exactly my point! Why is everyone complaining about fur considering leather is widely worn by heros.

[Shivsguy616]

We eat cows, might as well use the leather rather than waste it.


Exactly my point. There would be no reason for Asgardians to discard the pelts of the animals they eat.

[Ace of Knaves]

They redesign Iron Man's suit like three times in each film; what would lead anyone to believe there won't be design advancements between films for any of the other characters.


Because that's tech that obviously evolves.

[TheCorpulent1]

Is PETA even an issue, really? Thor is being made in Hollywood, the capitol of bleeding-heart hippies. They'll just use synthetic fur and have the ol' "no animals were harmed in the making of this film" disclaimer at the end. ;)

[roach]

Thor:"Fury might I have a word with thee."
Fury:"Sure go ahead."
Thor:"I can no longer be a part of your avengers."
Fury:Whats wrong?"
Thor:"Anthony's Iron Man armor is not green compliant. Its emissions are hurting mother earth. This Captain of America is a steroid/fascist warmonger...also we need to limit the fur and leather on this team."
Fury:"I dont believe this...I wonder if Hercules is free."

[Webhead2006]

yea i dont see what the heck is the issue with fur and thor, and heck even if they were wearing fur in the film it would likely be fake fur and not real fur.

[SpiderByte]

Thor never had fur in ANY of his designs.

[TheCorpulent1]

Actually, his costume when he first became king of Asgard had fur around the shoulders.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Thor never had fur in ANY of his designs.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/funny/thorcostume-7.jpghttp://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/funny/thorcostume7-battlearmor2.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

The second one was a one-time deal. He randomly decided to wear something different for a couple pages in that issue.

The first one (minus the Galactus-esque crown) is his King of Asgard costume that I was talking about. :up:

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea why does he have a Galactus crown?

[TheCorpulent1]

That pic is basically from his coronation. He'd only just officially accepted his role as the new king of Asgard and was presenting himself to the people. After that, he usually wore a variant on his winged helmet and then later on he stopped wearing a helmet altogether.

[SpiderByte]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/funny/thorcostume-7.jpghttp://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/funny/thorcostume7-battlearmor2.jpg

Note how both of those costumes suck ass.

Especially the second one. Forget Batman's nipples, Thor has a BRA!

[TheCorpulent1]

The first costume's great. There are a few elements I don't like, but it's a cool, armored update of the classic costume.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Yeah I'd like the first one with his regular helmet but I'd probably ditch the shoulder fur too.

[TheCorpulent1]

I loved the shoulder fur. Ironically, I would've liked to see the shoulder pads go away so we could see the fur a little more clearly.

[SpiderByte]

The second one is a lot better, but I don't quite like it that much. (Chains? Really?)

You gotta admit, it DOES look a bra in the second one.

[thorstone]

you don't want thor wear fur because you don't want thor wearing fur

Aside from the fact it would look ridiculous

I already stated my personal view on Thor wearing fur-- but I am also socially conscious. If you want to stir up controversy, do it with intent-- make a political statement about state funded terrorism rather than towing the company line about goat herders.

[roach]

I already stated my personal view on Thor wearing fur-- but I am also socially conscious. If you want to stir up controversy, do it with intent-- make a political statement about state funded terrorism rather than towing the company line about goat herders.

no its more fun to talk about fur...im tired of Terrorism

[Aesop Rocks]

http://i40.tinypic.com/29dtxyr.jpg
THORLACTUS!! :awesome:

[SpiderByte]

That picture is going straight into the caption thread.

[Captain America]

I loved the shoulder fur. Ironically, I would've liked to see the shoulder pads go away so we could see the fur a little more clearly.

Same here :up: I Love the look! :thor:

[roach]

I sitting here watching 24 and the Capitol One commercial comes on and it have Norsemen frolicking in Hawaii...and then it dawned on me....this is why I hate fan boys...if someone decided to make a viking movie no one would question fur or leather on the costume...but because we are making a superhero movie and everything has to be super real we have to question why a viking god would wear leather

[Anubis Raptor]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/funny/thorcostume-7.jpghttp://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/funny/thorcostume7-battlearmor2.jpg

I love both of them. I like the first more because of the chain circles.

[Gamma Burst]

I liked both versions of the armor very much.
The 'King Thor' action figure was amazing,imo
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww76/Craque_Vascaino/img.jpg

[Vartha]

Note how both of those costumes suck ass.

Especially the second one. Forget Batman's nipples, Thor has a BRA!
The lord Thor costume rocked, up until Coipel's design came out it was my fave Thor costume.

[Vartha]

I liked both versions of the armor very much.
The 'King Thor' action figure was amazing,imo
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww76/Craque_Vascaino/img.jpg


heh it was part of the build a figure Blob, Blob's HEAD came with Thor...I have Blob's head at his feet. lol

[Gamma Burst]

LOL Yeah,I remember that it was part of the Blob series.Blob itself is also pretty cool.:)

[lixdexia]

king thor, aside from he helmet, is my favorite thor suit to see publication. though if that mighty avenger thor suit shows up that will change. i love the fur over the cape, adds a bit more flavor than just a regular cape.

[Captain America]

king thor, aside from he helmet, is my favorite thor suit to see publication. though if that mighty avenger thor suit shows up that will change. i love the fur over the cape, adds a bit more flavor than just a regular cape.

I Really hope we get to see King Thor in the films somewhere
I heard a while back that Odin will die in Thor, If that's the case then maybe we will get to see it

http://jjinbeat.com/Cap/StarSpangledSite/Thor-KingThor.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/1772/95042-186997-thor_super.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

The lord Thor costume rocked, up until Coipel's design came out it was my fave Thor costume.
Same for me. It's funny, I thought Coipel's design was way too monochromatic and bland when it was first revealed, but now that it's the standard I'm finding all the blue of the King Thor costume way too bright.

[Vartha]

Well in the FIRST draft of the Script, it's mentioned a couple times that Odin goes into a Odinsleep and he APPEARS to be dead because of the Odinsleep.
What was strange, was around the Time I personally saw that the first time, Hulk vs Thor had just came out, and something in the comics had come out mentioning that the Odinsleep makes Odin apear dead yet he wasn't.
Loki in all the instances had done something devious.
I Really hope we get to see King Thor in the films somewhere
I heard a while back that Odin will die in Thor, If that's the case then maybe we will get to see it

http://jjinbeat.com/Cap/StarSpangledSite/Thor-KingThor.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/1772/95042-186997-thor_super.jpg

[Vartha]

Same for me. It's funny, I thought Coipel's design was way too monochromatic and bland when it was first revealed, but now that it's the standard I'm finding all the blue of the King Thor costume way too bright.

A couple of Regulars over on the Immortal Thor made an AMAZING lord Thor costume. I was impressed they took all these chrome blue Dog tags and connected them to a shirt. ALOT of work, but it was then I realised the BLUE was a bit much if it were chrome.

[Anubis Raptor]

The king thor costume looks so regal to me. I don't know why. The chains just give off this vibe that reminds me of a very powerful force.

[StanLee Wannabe]

Got this off a YouTube post from someone who seems to have inside information. His/Her earlier posts have played out right so far...

THOR COSTUME UPDATE:
The costumes are straight up medieval future tech looking. Chris Hemsworth's Thor costume is complete with a cape, chain mail arms, the circles going down the front of the torso, & a winged helmet. The studio is changing Tom Hiddleston's blond & curly hair to Loki's black straight hair. The only thing that is funny about Loki's helmet is that it looks more like a like a bicycle helmet. The Warriors Three also have the same kind of medieval future tech look & is awesome.

Sorry if this has already been posted. 67 pages is kinda long :)

[TheCorpulent1]

It was posted a while ago, but I'm sure others missed it. :up:

[Anubis Raptor]

I wonder what the person means when they say medieval future tech? 'Drives me crazy.

[Ace of Knaves]

It makes me think of Chronicles of Riddick or Dune.

[Webhead2006]

yea its been known for awhile, if you been coming here last few months and all. from what we know it sounds like it will be the copiol design of present in the comics.

[thorstone]

Judging from the Destroyer image that was leaked, Thor's armor could make Zeus jealous.
http://filmonic.com/wp-content/gallery/clash-of-the-titans/liam-neeson-zeus.jpg

Or the Destroyer could become his armor...

http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu156/orlandoledezma/bowen_thor_destroyer_fs_005.jpg

[Webhead2006]

probably not.

[sabetoonth]

what leaked Destroyer image?

[SpiderByte]

**************.com may/may not still have the leaked picture of the Destroyer image. I think they took it down, but it might be up on other parts of the site.

[Captain America]

what leaked Destroyer image?

This I believe (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/04/29/thor-villain-revealed/)

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Why is he wearing giant blue slippers?:doh:

[Weadazoid]

The Destroyer is a great physicla threat to Thor.


Awsome news, and great looking on point design, to bad it 'destorys' what Colosus looked like in X3. Such a beter use of... what ever they used to create it.

[roach]

First look at Thor

[Ace of Knaves]

Loving it. Totally get the "medievil tech" thing they were going on about before. Love the chainmail on his arms.

[GhostPoet]

ZOMG....it's fantastic!! I'm totally stoked for Thor now :)

[Balthus Dire]

Awesome first pic.

[RogueDK]

First look at Thor
FOR ODIN....FOR ASGARD!!!!!!!!!! :awesome:

[Vartha]

Nuff Said Rouge!!! :D

[The_Mighty_Thor]

hard to tell from that pic but his chest circles look like plastic and his arms look rubbery. Hope it's just a bad pic.

[kedrell]

Why is he wearing giant blue slippers?:doh:


I believe those are sandbags meant to keep the armor upright.

[Anubis Raptor]

Why is he wearing giant blue slippers?:doh:

:hehe:

[Webhead2006]

Great looking still. Chris looks good in costume. Cant wait to see him weilding the hammer and also wearing the helmet. Cant wait to see more from the film.

[dark_b]

hard to tell from that pic but his chest circles look like plastic and his arms look rubbery. Hope it's just a bad pic.ever saw brushed metal?

mirror like metal would look to perfect. brushed metal is the way to go.

IMO

[The_Mighty_Thor]

ever saw brushed metal?


Yes,many times and those look like plastic. Like I said, I hope it's just a bad pic.

[Anubis Raptor]

Yes,many times and those look like plastic. Like I said, I hope it's just a bad pic.


I am sure the finished project will induce major geekgasms worldwide.

[Webhead2006]

well we also have to look at it, sure its probably rubber/laxtex/etc.... material that the suit is made out of. But they probably did it so they have more mobility with the actors, and so it wouldnt be heavy metal costume chris has to be wearing for hrs on end and all that. Also yea i am sure in the film they will sell it as metal and with the right lighting, and sfx enhancements will touch it up a bit.

[Iceman]

Great 1st pic! He looks the part!

[TheCorpulent1]

I am sure the finished project will induce major geekgasms worldwide.
I'm sure it will for me. This is literally a dream come true. I hope it does well so Thor can finally be as big a character as he deserves to be. He was sort of treated as second-string among the big guns at Marvel for a long while in the '90s and early '00s.

[Anubis Raptor]

Yeah Thor has come a long way. Makes me wanna shed a tear:csad:

[Captain America]

I'm sure it will for me. This is literally a dream come true. I hope it does well so Thor can finally be as big a character as he deserves to be. He was sort of treated as second-string among the big guns at Marvel for a long while in the '90s and early '00s.

That's for sure..... But this begs the question, who'll be bigger and better critically and in the box office? Thor or Cap? :ninja:

[Ace of Knaves]

The thing is... the costume probably is made of rubber and plastic. The only way it'll seem genuinely like metal is in motion and the sound it makes when it moves.

You can only really judge the design itself from a still shot. Not the material.

[Captain America]

The thing is... the costume probably is made of rubber and plastic. The only way it'll look genuinely like metal is in motion and the sound it makes when it moves.

You can only really judge the design itself from a still shot. Not the material.

For certain, it most likely look at least a bit different on the full film, Just look at how Iron Man looks on set
http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/whattheflick/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/iron-man-2.jpg
:hehe::hehe:

[FlawlessVictory]

That's for sure..... But this begs the question, who'll be bigger and better critically and in the box office? Thor or Cap? :ninja:

Sorry Cap, critically I see Thor being much better. Tough call for the BO though.

[Ace of Knaves]

Well yea, that does look a bit plasticy.

As for the BO? Cap will make big money in the US for sure. Worldwide though? Ehhh i doubt it to be honest.

I think Thor will do much better worldwide at least.

[Anubis Raptor]

Don't worry. Everything looks better in motion:hehe::awesome:

Even though the pic looks jaw dropping.

Its amazing how perfect chris is for the role. I can't see anyone else being Thor. He has the face, the voice, and the size.

[Captain America]

Sorry Cap, critically I see Thor being much better. Tough call for the BO though.

Well yea, that does look a bit plasticy.

As for the BO? Cap will make big money in the US for sure. Worldwide though? Ehhh i doubt it to be honest.

I think Thor will do much better worldwide at least.


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[SpiderByte]

Cap is more well known to the GA than Thor (well, in America, obviously) Cap though...it'll have a little trouble with grossing outside of America. Thor, though, looks even at this early stage like it will bring results like Iron Man: A great movie that a lot of people didn't think would be because they aren't familiar with the character.

I don't know much about Thor in general (I know some of the main characters, but not much else), so I can offer the GA's perspective on this. When I go to see Thor, odds are I won't really know his origin, or his story. That will make the film even cooler.

[Anubis Raptor]

blasphemy! http://www.council-of-elrond.com/forums/images/smilies/villagers.gif

I second that with even more little red devil thingys.

[Webhead2006]

i am sure both films will do well hopefully.

[Captain America]

I second that with even more little red devil thingys.

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[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

That's for sure..... But this begs the question, who'll be bigger and better critically and in the box office? Thor or Cap? :ninja:

That is the ? :word:

[sabetoonth]

Cap is more well known to the GA than Thor (well, in America, obviously) Cap though...it'll have a little trouble with grossing outside of America. Thor, though, looks even at this early stage like it will bring results like Iron Man: A great movie that a lot of people didn't think would be because they aren't familiar with the character.

I don't know much about Thor in general (I know some of the main characters, but not much else), so I can offer the GA's perspective on this. When I go to see Thor, odds are I won't really know his origin, or his story. That will make the film even cooler.
same, not a big fan due to unfamiliarity, but cant wait for this movie, cuz i know itll be epic, im more versed the Norse mythology, the great world serpent and such.

[Ace of Knaves]

I think the thing that both Cap and Thor have going for them is that they don't HAVE to be looked at as superheroes, y'know what i mean?

Like Thor will appeal to the fans of mythical stuff, like LOTR AND comic book fans.

Cap will appeal to fans of war movies AND comic book fans.

[Anubis Raptor]

I just want to see if Chris is as muscular as they said he was. I really hope is as big as a linebacker for the role of Thor.

[Captain America]

I just want to see if Chris is as muscular as they said he was.

I'm sure he is, We just need to wait and see a full body pic

[JAK®]

I just want to see if Chris is as muscular as they said he was. I really hope is as big as a linebacker for the role of Thor.
He's 6'4 and has always had broad shoulders and a muscular body.

[Captain America]

He's 6'4 and has always had broad shoulders and a muscular body.

He'll do :up:

[Webhead2006]

yea chris is in great shape.

[Anubis Raptor]

http://www.dynamicforces.com/images/C112202.jpg

I think Chris will have this body form in the film.

[sabetoonth]

cant wait to see Odin and Loki, just based on Thors look

[Jobling]

http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/thor1.jpg

OH MY GOD IT`S PERFECT

[Captain America]

cant wait to see Odin and Loki, just based on Thors look

Hellz yeah :up: If they stay as close to the comics as it seems that they are, then odin and loki should look very interesting

[Shivsguy616]

OH MY GOD IT`S PERFECT

Nah.

[Ace of Knaves]

Whats wrong with it then?

[SpiderByte]

Loki's already confirmed to have horns, so I guess this film will be very accurate.

We should be getting more pics as the days go on, now.

[Shivsguy616]

Whats wrong with it then?

There's quite a bit. It's rather an odd design. Hopefully the arm just looks rubbery in this picture.

The armor is ok, but nothing spectacular. The cape is good.

Overall it just looks too fake. I would've rathered it to be more based in actual Norse armor/clothes.

[TheCorpulent1]

Hellz yeah :up: If they stay as close to the comics as it seems that they are, then odin and loki should look very interesting
If they follow Coipel's designs for Loki as closely as they did for Thor, we'll probably get something like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Thor/newloki.jpg

Which works for me. I love that it makes Loki look a bit more athletic and plays up the warrior aspect. People tend to ignore that Loki, even though he's a bit of a wuss compared to Thor, is still a warrior god from a race of warrior gods and he can probably kick your ass in a fight if he feels like it. :)

[Shivsguy616]

That would be great!

[Ace of Knaves]

There's quite a bit. It's rather an odd design. Hopefully the arm just looks rubbery in this picture.

The armor is ok, but nothing spectacular. The cape is good.

Overall it just looks too fake. I would've rathered it to be more based in actual Norse armor/clothes.

How can you tell if something is metal or not just by looking at a still picture though?

The suit is probably made of rubber or something. If it was made out of genuine metal it would weigh a ton.

And it's not an odd design. It's the design from the current comics. If you don't like that design fine. But we've known it was gonna be this for quite some time.

[Chewy]

If they follow Coipel's designs for Loki as closely as they did for Thor, we'll probably get something like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Thor/newloki.jpg

Which works for me. I love that it makes Loki look a bit more athletic and plays up the warrior aspect. People tend to ignore that Loki, even though he's a bit of a wuss compared to Thor, is still a warrior god from a race of warrior gods and he can probably kick your ass in a fight if he feels like it. :)
I think it will look like this. The one report we have about Loki's costume included a note that his helmet looks "kind of like a bicycle helmet", and that's kind of how I'd describe the helmet in Coipel's design.

[Ace of Knaves]

If they follow Coipel's designs for Loki as closely as they did for Thor, we'll probably get something like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Thor/newloki.jpg

Which works for me. I love that it makes Loki look a bit more athletic and plays up the warrior aspect. People tend to ignore that Loki, even though he's a bit of a wuss compared to Thor, is still a warrior god from a race of warrior gods and he can probably kick your ass in a fight if he feels like it. :)

Ehhh see i don't like that design. Looks too grubby and grungy.

I prefer Loki being a bit more extravagent and lavish, with gold and jewells and what not. His personality is rather diva-ish and obnoxious i would say. So multiple costume changes. Maybe a different extravagant costume each time we see him. He is a shape shifter after all :D

[SpiderByte]

If I recall correctly, Hiddleston was put on a strict diet, so that Loki would be skinny and "Hungry-looking"

[TheCorpulent1]

If I recall correctly, Hiddleston was put on a strict diet, so that Loki would be skinny and "Hungry-looking"
I wonder if that's Branagh taking inspiration from Shakespeare. Cassius from Julius Caesar was described as having a lean and hungry look.

[Ace of Knaves]

No that's what he looks like anyway. Branagh said he liked Huddleston because he looked "hungry looking".

He probably had to work out a bit for the role. Not to add bulk or get bigger, but to get lean and ripped.

[Rock Sexton]

If I recall correctly, Hiddleston was put on a strict diet, so that Loki would be skinny and "Hungry-looking"

Why?

[TheCorpulent1]

Ehhh see i don't like that design. Looks too grubby and grungy.

I prefer Loki being a bit more extravagent and lavish, with gold and jewells and what not. His personality is rather diva-ish and obnoxious i would say. So multiple costume changes. Maybe a different extravagant costume each time we see him. He is a shape shifter after all :D
I'd be down with multiple costumes. That Coipel design could be his "battle costume" and then he could wear dark green and yellow silks for his day-to-day attire or something.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea that would be cool Corp. Have like a battle attire for, well, battles and the nitty gritty. :D

And some more extravagant clothing for when he is around causing mischief and being obnoxious and sycophantic around his father and the rest of the Asgardians. Putting on a show basically.

[sabetoonth]

i like the ideaa of him having a few different looks throughout the movie

[cerealkiller182]

Im digging the costume.

[Aesop Rocks]

Yeah, I completely love the costume.

[Anubis Raptor]

i like the ideaa of him having a few different looks throughout the movie

Me too.

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

I can't wait to see the rest of the designs!

[Anubis Raptor]

What if Thor has multiple costumes?

[Aesop Rocks]

I actually can't wait to see Sif the most. I mean, I want to see if they're going to have her as a warrior or a **** with a sword.

[sabetoonth]

OF COURSE! i mean, over at comicvine everyones *****ing about how it looks fake and like its all plastic, or how unviking it is

[Aesop Rocks]

**** comicvine.

[sabetoonth]

i use it for pics and stuff, thats it, i think i was the only one who posted they like the suit

[The Infernal]

OF COURSE! i mean, over at comicvine everyones *****ing about how it looks fake and like its all plastic, or how unviking it is

Though it's not like he ever looked like a Viking. Maybe his helmet and him being a Norse god people thought of him that way, but he never looked like one.

[TheCorpulent1]

I actually can't wait to see Sif the most. I mean, I want to see if they're going to have her as a warrior or a **** with a sword.
I'm really, really hoping for warrior. **** with a sword would be my first major disappointment with the film so far.

[Gamma Burst]

I actually can't wait to see Sif the most. I mean, I want to see if they're going to have her as a warrior or a **** with a sword.

Which look do you prefer?:woot:

[Vartha]

OF COURSE! i mean, over at comicvine everyones *****ing about how it looks fake and like its all plastic, or how unviking it is
Well I post on several boards, that's not one.
The ones I post on have a great Thor fan base.
Now if they said the same thing about regular pohotos of RDJ in the Iron man suit looking plastic THEN they have NO imagination at all.
I'm not worried.

[Chris Wallace]

Apparently somebody thinks the Avengers are supposed to look like...the Avengers.

[sabetoonth]

one guy did say itll look different in motion and the finished product, and this place these guys say their thor fans, theyre jsut raggin on the costume, and this is sjut the news page, ya know how u can leave a comment on enws here? same thing kind

[Aesop Rocks]

I'm really, really hoping for warrior. **** with a sword would be my first major disappointment with the film so far.
Me too. After actually reading some Thor comics (started with Thor brining Asgard to Earth [i love it!! sqweee!!], Sif has become one of my favorite comic book characters in the Marvel U. And Jaimie seems to be nerdy enough to know how important Sif is to Thor.

Which look do you prefer?:woot:

I think of it like this: Sure Sif can be attractive looking, but look whose playing her. The actress alone is beautiful and that alone does it. She doesn't need to be dressed like a **** just for the sake of well, a typecast-sort of character Hollywood would try to make Sif end up being in the movie; which Sif isn't, at all. I mean, I'm not for her to wear a Chasity belt into battle and whatnot, But Jaimie Alexander is a beautiful woman enough in the face that they shouldn't have to show off a massive amount of skin to sell her character as the "****ty warrior". Because trust me, that's how the GA will see her.
GA member at the end of Thor walking to his car with some friends:
"Yo man, who was that **** with the sword, imma google her!".

[Gamma Burst]

I agree with you,Aesop.

[TheCorpulent1]

So long as her costume looks practical and has lots of red and/or white, I'm good. I just really don't want to see ass cheeks, high heels, or more than like 30 or 40% of her boobs.

[Aesop Rocks]

Hey man, a lil under ass never hurt. :oldrazz:

[sabetoonth]

lol Aesop
she can definatly be sexy in warrior gear imo

[Nathan]

Looks a bit plasticky to me. I need to see him in full Thor getup, including the helmet and hammer. Also with the proper lighting. Otherwise I like the design.

[Vartha]

I like one Black and white ink piece with Thor and Sif I'll dig out later, but Sif looked amazing.

[thorstone]

It will look better once they touch it up with lense flares and such.

The scale armor is as I predicted.
The chest piece makes it look more sci fi.

[Rock Sexton]

It will look better once they touch it up with lense flares and such.

The scale armor is as I predicted.
The chest piece makes it look more sci fi.

After seeing it, I agree with the tech/sci-fi look they gave it. Visually, it won't take as much to accept, particularly when he teams up with the rest of The Avengers.

[samsnee]

I like it. I'm glad the circles don't look like a bra.