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RogueDK
06-04-2010, 12:44 AM
It could be better, it could be worse. Hammer looks great, waist up it looks fine. Any word on the helmet?
Apparently it's been confirmed that he wears one but although IGN.com stated that this is what we'll get in the film, they did ask where was Thor's helmet. I'm not sure if they were joking or not just to tease fans.

Od's Beard - It's Thor's Costume!

The Norse god follows Captain America in the concept-art realm eternal.

June 3, 2010





by Scott Collura & Jim Vejvoda (http://movies.ign.com/email.html)




First we got concept art of Captain America (http://movies.ign.com/objects/034/034020.html) yesterday, created to more or less approximate what Chris Evans will look like in his star-spangled duds (http://movies.ign.com/articles/109/1094322p1.html). And now another Avenger has received the same treatment -- namely, the god of thunder, Thor (http://movies.ign.com/objects/041/041031.html)!

Here's a look at the design, but be sure to click over to Collider (http://www.collider.com/2010/06/02/thor-chris-hemsworth-new-images-concept-art/) for the full images:


http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/109/1094489/thor_concept_art_chris_hemsworth_02_1275579404.jpg

So it looks O.K., but not great, right? But be assured, this is in fact the costume -- IGN has seen the real thing, and in action no less. And we can tell you to calm your trembling heart, dear reader, for the costume looks much cooler than these pictures would indicate -- not as plastic in motion. Indeed, it looks pretty badass.

It's nice seeing the hammer in action here, particularly with the mystical sheen that it has. But where be our helmet?! And they better not chop off the wings like they did with Cap…




http://movies.ign.com/articles/109/1094489p1.html (http://movies.ign.com/articles/109/1094489p1.html)

Hopefully something describing the helmet's design should pop up soon in the next few days or when an official full shot from Marvel is released which I'm guessing we'll see before the month is out.

I'm really anxious to see how they approached the style of it.

Gamma Burst
06-04-2010, 02:52 AM
I'm sure it's gonna look even better on the screen!

Maximillian
06-04-2010, 03:57 AM
http://i48.tinypic.com/20prmdu.jpg

3 Dev Adam
06-04-2010, 04:01 AM
So it's not the Thorminator? Oh well. I'll wait for the trailer.

3 Dev Adam
06-04-2010, 04:06 AM
http://i48.tinypic.com/20prmdu.jpg


Magnetic Holder. I think.

Maximillian
06-04-2010, 04:14 AM
But what's it for? And why not on the other leg as well? From here it just looks bizarre. Would've been better without it. When did he wear something like that in the comics?

sabetoonth
06-04-2010, 04:51 AM
Am I the only one that thinks this looks badass?

First off Mjolnir looks incredible. Yeah we saw it in the end credits of IM2, but the glow effects make it come alive, and you can tell fromt the one pic the circles on the breast plate light up with Mjolnir.

Now I'll give you the boots are a little Gene Simmons, but we knew they were going for the Tech Asgard. So while he doesn't look quite Viking like, I think they made the costume look very regal.

I said this the same with the Cap costume, if on the one side you have the outfits from the X-men movies, and on the other side you have the outfits from Spider-man/IronMan this and the Cap costume are just right of center.
i think it looks awesome too

Bren
06-04-2010, 04:59 AM
A magnetic holder, just above the knee? While I think it's possible this is the case, the reasoning is...... off. So I want a massive stone hammerhead strapped just above my knee. You know, to make walking easy. But he's Thor so it probably won't bother him.

For those saying 'but this is concept art - don't judge the pants / boots'; well, the entire outfit is concept, and the top half looks great. So it's all relative. And in relation to the top, the bottom looks rubbish/boring/unimaginive/plain. Perhaps (like newscasters) we actually never see him below the waist in the movie anyway!!!

But never mind. Someone mentioned the pants look godly. Great, I'll chuck my bike leather pants on and trot around looking godly :awesome:!

Still can't wait for the film though. I hope he's got the beard don't know if that's been confirmed?

ultimatefan
06-04-2010, 06:57 AM
Sincerely, I donīt think this looks as good as the Captain America costume. I get that Capīs costume is the modern version, that heīll wear as an Avenger, heīs human, heīll use technology.

But for Thor, it looks weird to have those hi-tech elements. Heīs not human, heīs an Asgardian God, this kinda takes off from the mythological/unearhty aspect of the character. Itīs like putting a modern suit on Gandalf.

Iīm okay with Cap having no wings, and I half-expected Thor not to have them as well, but... Not even the helmet?! What the hell?

Ratcrawler
06-04-2010, 07:39 AM
It's a nice mesh of ultimate & classic Thor that I wouldn't mind seeing in the Avengers film, but I've got to say, for an origin piece taking place primarily in Asgard, it doesn't quite the "period" look I was expecting and sort of hoping for. This is "Asgard In The Year 2099" LOL

But overall, I'm not the hugest Thor fan to begin with so my opinions are very humble indeed. I would totally rock that outfit if I could.

RogueDK
06-04-2010, 08:20 AM
Sincerely, I donīt think this looks as good as the Captain America costume. I get that Capīs costume is the modern version, that heīll wear as an Avenger, heīs human, heīll use technology.

But for Thor, it looks weird to have those hi-tech elements. Heīs not human, heīs an Asgardian God who lives in Valhala, this kinda takes off from the mythological/unearhty aspect of the character. Itīs like putting a modern suit on Gandalf.
Well, this is something we both agree on. :up:

Total fail on Thor's bottom half of the suit.

obin_gam
06-04-2010, 08:58 AM
haha I love visiting and reading these boards, you guys complain about everything :D I guess the next thing after the pants (really? you are arguing about friigin PANTS!?!?!) will be that odins lost eye is on the wrong side or that the forst giants have the wrong shade of white on their skin...

Whiskey Tango
06-04-2010, 11:05 AM
I don't know why everyone seems so focused on the pants. I mean, yeah...he's wearing pants. Was this some big unexpected thing?

3 Dev Adam
06-04-2010, 11:27 AM
But what's it for? And why not on the other leg as well? From here it just looks bizarre. Would've been better without it. When did he wear something like that in the comics?

To hold the hammer. He only has one. And yes, he did wore something similar in the comics.

Tony Stark
06-04-2010, 11:28 AM
http://www.toymania.com/customcorner/cc22/doom/brainiac.jpg

Savage
06-04-2010, 11:28 AM
It's an improvement over sheathing it in his cape like a sword. It looked cool but how the hell is that possible?

Manowar
06-04-2010, 11:31 AM
The pants kinda remind me of future Thor (Dargo Ktor). Someone link a pic to see.

TheCorpulent1
06-04-2010, 11:49 AM
It's an improvement over sheathing it in his cape like a sword. It looked cool but how the hell is that possible?
People have suggested that the strap that goes over his chest in the Coipel design is there for some kind of holster tucked under his cape on his back.

I don't recall Thor ever wearing a strap around his leg to hold his hammer in the comics, by the way. I've read a lot of Thor comics and, as far as I can recall off the top of my head right now, I've only seen him hang Mjolnir from his belt and, as of the Coipel design, put it on his back with the handle sticking up behind his head.

Parker Wayne
06-04-2010, 01:02 PM
Sincerely, I donīt think this looks as good as the Captain America costume. I get that Capīs costume is the modern version, that heīll wear as an Avenger, heīs human, heīll use technology.

But for Thor, it looks weird to have those hi-tech elements. Heīs not human, heīs an Asgardian God, this kinda takes off from the mythological/unearhty aspect of the character. Itīs like putting a modern suit on Gandalf.

Iīm okay with Cap having no wings, and I half-expected Thor not to have them as well, but... Not even the helmet?! What the hell?

I'm fine with Cap not having wings, but not only should Thor have wings, he should have the whole helmet.

TheCorpulent1
06-04-2010, 01:10 PM
Well, the wings would look really silly without the helmet. ;)

Young Superman
06-04-2010, 01:21 PM
I LOVE Thor's costume design. But I take it he won't have his helmet in the film?

TheCorpulent1
06-04-2010, 01:23 PM
He will. People who've visited the set confirmed it. We just haven't seen it yet.

Young Superman
06-04-2010, 01:38 PM
He will. People who've visited the set confirmed it. We just haven't seen it yet.
That's great can't wait to see it.

thegameq
06-04-2010, 02:52 PM
Oh well......the red flag for this film came when they started talking about "techno vikings".

I can't understand how Marvel could possibly botch this up.....From the time Thor was announced, almost everyone knew the LOTR/300/Excalibur, etc. approach was a no-brainer for Thor.......but techno viking......!! How the hell did they arrive at this conclusion is beyond me--and quite frankly this costume is extremely dissappointing.

I can't believe that during production meetings, everyone on the team was like "OMG, this costume is incredible. THAT IS THOR!" You mean to tell me no one on the design team for this costume had the balls to speak up and say, "I don't know guys, that costume really doesn't look that great--I mean, I know it will look better on film, but.....it doesn't fit with the LOTR-esque image the fans probably have of Thor".

It's becoming more and more apparent that there are very few people in Hollywood that actually know how to make fantasy/sci-fi films.....

........................................I just can't believe they could botch a no-brainer like Thor.........................

.......just damn..............

BrollySupersj
06-04-2010, 03:31 PM
To hell with haters, I love it. :D

Webhead2006
06-04-2010, 03:39 PM
its probably not leater material for the pants it could end up looking more cloth like then leather.

TheCorpulent1
06-04-2010, 05:12 PM
Oh well......the red flag for this film came when they started talking about "techno vikings".

I can't understand how Marvel could possibly botch this up.....From the time Thor was announced, almost everyone knew the LOTR/300/Excalibur, etc. approach was a no-brainer for Thor.......but techno viking......!! How the hell did they arrive at this conclusion is beyond me--and quite frankly this costume is extremely dissappointing.

I can't believe that during production meetings, everyone on the team was like "OMG, this costume is incredible. THAT IS THOR!" You mean to tell me no one on the design team for this costume had the balls to speak up and say, "I don't know guys, that costume really doesn't look that great--I mean, I know it will look better on film, but.....it doesn't fit with the LOTR-esque image the fans probably have of Thor".

It's becoming more and more apparent that there are very few people in Hollywood that actually know how to make fantasy/sci-fi films.....

........................................I just can't believe they could botch a no-brainer like Thor.........................

.......just damn..............
I've been a huge Thor fan for about ten years now and it looks fine to me. The pants are a little plain but overall I like it. Thor's never really looked super-vikingish because of the very weird designs Kirby put down for him right from the start.

Maximillian
06-04-2010, 05:56 PM
To hold the hammer. He only has one. And yes, he did wore something similar in the comics.
It's very unlikely the hammer will be that low positioned. It would look incredibly stupid. The strap is barely above his kneecap, for crying out loud.

Who was the artist that drew it in the comics?

sabetoonth
06-04-2010, 06:32 PM
A magnetic holder, just above the knee? While I think it's possible this is the case, the reasoning is...... off. So I want a massive stone hammerhead strapped just above my knee. You know, to make walking easy. But he's Thor so it probably won't bother him.

For those saying 'but this is concept art - don't judge the pants / boots'; well, the entire outfit is concept, and the top half looks great. So it's all relative. And in relation to the top, the bottom looks rubbish/boring/unimaginive/plain. Perhaps (like newscasters) we actually never see him below the waist in the movie anyway!!!

But never mind. Someone mentioned the pants look godly. Great, I'll chuck my bike leather pants on and trot around looking godly :awesome:!

Still can't wait for the film though. I hope he's got the beard don't know if that's been confirmed?

Sincerely, I donīt think this looks as good as the Captain America costume. I get that Capīs costume is the modern version, that heīll wear as an Avenger, heīs human, heīll use technology.

But for Thor, it looks weird to have those hi-tech elements. Heīs not human, heīs an Asgardian God, this kinda takes off from the mythological/unearhty aspect of the character. Itīs like putting a modern suit on Gandalf.

Iīm okay with Cap having no wings, and I half-expected Thor not to have them as well, but... Not even the helmet?! What the hell?
you have remember he isnt a god, he is a member of a hightech other dimensional race, ye, he isnt human, but hes not a god either

TheCorpulent1
06-04-2010, 06:39 PM
He's a god as far as I'm concerned. The gods in the comics live in another dimension but are still gods, so I don't see why they couldn't retain that for the movie.

bunk
06-04-2010, 06:42 PM
Looks pretty good. Definitely not what I expected though. Pretty much have to see this in context to really "get" what they're going for. Just as concept art, I like the Cap stuff a lot more.

sabetoonth
06-04-2010, 06:43 PM
well, i dont have an answer for that, but they arent gods so*shrugs*
still looking forward to this

TheCorpulent1
06-04-2010, 06:45 PM
They've never said that they wouldn't be gods. They've said that they'll live in another dimension. Which pretty much every pantheon of gods does in the comics.

If they're smart, they'll just leave it ambiguous and not call them "gods" or "aliens" specifically. Then everyone can interpret what their true nature is for themselves, since calling them "gods" seems to stick in so many people's craws.

Vartha
06-04-2010, 07:04 PM
I don't see what's wrong with Magical Technology. A tech that's powered by an unseen magical energy.
I loved the Too Human Concept. I can see it work in Thor too with a slightly different twist.
I just hope they don't make it look like Thor is dependent on it.

Gamma Burst
06-04-2010, 09:21 PM
They are gods.

roach
06-04-2010, 10:19 PM
and people tend to forget that Kirby's designs on Asgard were hi tech too

Vartha
06-04-2010, 10:38 PM
They are gods.
Didn't say they weren't Spidey Jason. What's so wrong with gods having a Technology of their own?

I'm not saying that their powers and Magiks are powered by the technology, just that they'd have a technology to use.

Webhead2006
06-04-2010, 11:53 PM
will be nice to see more real photos.

Vartha
06-05-2010, 12:42 AM
wish we had the helmet shot at least

3 Dev Adam
06-05-2010, 01:15 AM
It's very unlikely the hammer will be that low positioned. It would look incredibly stupid. The strap is barely above his kneecap, for crying out loud.

Who was the artist that drew it in the comics?


I am ASSUMING it is. not that it is.

Mike Deodato did it.

http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6126&stc=1&d=1275718481

Spidey_62
06-05-2010, 01:21 AM
http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6126&stc=1&d=1275718481
Gah!:barf:

JeetKuneDo
06-05-2010, 01:22 AM
Eeek...

After seeing the impressive Cap photos I was expecting more. Those boots...ouch...that's bad. I hope this isn't the final product.

This is coming from a person that is hugely looking forward to Thor and just barely thinking about Cap.

sabetoonth
06-05-2010, 02:52 AM
I am ASSUMING it is. not that it is.

Mike Deodato did it.

http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6126&stc=1&d=1275718481
gah that thing is hideous!

spider-neil
06-05-2010, 03:05 AM
for me the costume is on the edge of good and bad, the helmet for me is what's going to tip the balance.

RIV
06-05-2010, 03:08 AM
I've been a huge Thor fan for about ten years now and it looks fine to me. The pants are a little plain but overall I like it. Thor's never really looked super-vikingish because of the very weird designs Kirby put down for him right from the start.

and people tend to forget that Kirby's designs on Asgard were hi tech too

Im GLAD to see this finally being brought up. A lot of people have been complaining that the Thor designs don't look mythological enough or have too much tech, but alot of Kirby's Asgard had a very space viking look to it.

It's almost like people are expecting the traditional Norse Thor and forgetting this is Marvel's Thor. From an artistic standpoint as long as the mystical tech in his suit is streamlined and almost alien in it's simplicity, I think it works.

Wolfman
06-05-2010, 04:08 AM
Yea I don't really like the costume... I don't like how it combines the ultimates look with the 616 costume. I hate the glowing carvings on the plates. They are just stupid and make him light up like christmas tree. And the biker boots look weird on him.

Gamma Burst
06-05-2010, 04:27 AM
Didn't say they weren't Spidey Jason. What's so wrong with gods having a Technology of their own?

I'm not saying that their powers and Magiks are powered by the technology, just that they'd have a technology to use.

Actually,my post was'nt aimed at you,mate,:word:

Jager X
06-05-2010, 08:00 AM
IMO, even though this is but a concept, the biggest flaw is the distracting clash between the torso and the legs. I know the complaint has been mention before but it really cheapens the suit, and makes it hard for me to even imagine the helmet with it. I think they should have given him chainmail leggings like they did the upper body, which makes more sense to me. Looking at Thor, I think of a knight who is clad in armor at the top but is sporting nothing more than cotton trousers. From what I've seen, it is possible that they have made minor changes but if the pants stays then I am going to be dissappointed.

The_Mighty_Thor
06-05-2010, 08:06 AM
you have remember he isnt a god, he is a member of a hightech other dimensional race, ye, he isnt human, but hes not a god either

He's a god as far as I'm concerned. The gods in the comics live in another dimension but are still gods, so I don't see why they couldn't retain that for the movie.

well, i dont have an answer for that, but they arent gods so*shrugs*
still looking forward to this

They've never said that they wouldn't be gods. They've said that they'll live in another dimension. Which pretty much every pantheon of gods does in the comics.

If they're smart, they'll just leave it ambiguous and not call them "gods" or "aliens" specifically. Then everyone can interpret what their true nature is for themselves, since calling them "gods" seems to stick in so many people's craws.


Their was a brief period in Marvel history (early to mid 90's I think) When Marvel said Asgardians weren't gods, they were an advanced alien race from another demension. Fans were outraged and that didn't last long. Marvel currently considers them to be the true Asgardian gods of myth.

darthlaney
06-05-2010, 08:44 AM
Techno Vikings = Techno Eternians and we all know how badly that ended last time -

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk28/laney_74/MOTU.jpg

anyone else see the similarities??

roach
06-05-2010, 08:50 AM
the Jack Kirby Asgard and designs of the Asgardians were all techno vikings.

JeetKuneDo
06-05-2010, 09:57 AM
Im GLAD to see this finally being brought up. A lot of people have been complaining that the Thor designs don't look mythological enough or have too much tech, but alot of Kirby's Asgard had a very space viking look to it.

It's almost like people are expecting the traditional Norse Thor and forgetting this is Marvel's Thor. From an artistic standpoint as long as the mystical tech in his suit is streamlined and almost alien in it's simplicity, I think it works.

I read quite a few Thor comics and I don't think I would have ever described Asgard that way. Would anyone have posted last week that Thor should look hi-tech?

TheCorpulent1
06-05-2010, 10:05 AM
Does it matter? This is what we've got and it looks good to me. I would've been happy with a more old world viking look as well, but this seems to hearken back more to the Kirby and Simonson looks than the current medieval-inspired look Coipel used. Still just as valid a look for Marvel's Thor, though.

Mercurius
06-05-2010, 10:08 AM
Above the waist the costume is quite OK, not amazing, but fine.

The legs and boots are a disaster of poor imagination and balance, not to say nobody would ever think of it as "Asgardian".

"Space viking" is one thing, and Kirby's designs are always imaginative. This looks like some left-off pieces from X-Men black boring uniforms.

I was hoping that mesh in his arms would also cover his legs.:doh:

The_Mighty_Thor
06-05-2010, 10:16 AM
I was hoping the mesh on his arms wouldn't be made out of rubber but we're getting what we're getting it's not that bad! Look at some other comic book movies and realise how much worse it could have been!

Maximillian
06-05-2010, 10:23 AM
gah that thing is hideous!
Agreed.

antmanx68
06-05-2010, 10:28 AM
In the actual film you are not going to be focused on his legs. Thor wears black pants, they're usually not "special pants" just pants. They probably tried them 100 different ways and maybe they didnt want to detract from the look of his upper body. I seriously doubt in motion, on screen, with hammer and helmet that anyone is going to be sitting in the audience thinking "I really wish his pants were more exciting."

HUMANIMAL
06-05-2010, 10:34 AM
I seriously doubt in motion, on screen, with hammer and helmet that anyone is going to be sitting in the audience thinking "I really wish his pants were more exciting."
some folks surely will :oldrazz:

Mercurius
06-05-2010, 10:36 AM
I was hoping the mesh on his arms wouldn't be made out of rubber but we're getting what we're getting it's not that bad! Look at some other comic book movies and realise how much worse it could have been!

"Not enough" but "could be worse" aren't very comforting arguments, Mighty Thor.

I do thank your gentle attitude towards my frustration, though. :woot:

TheCorpulent1
06-05-2010, 10:37 AM
In the actual film you are not going to be focused on his legs. Thor wears black pants, they're usually not "special pants" just pants. They probably tried them 100 different ways and maybe they didnt want to detract from the look of his upper body. I seriously doubt in motion, on screen, with hammer and helmet that anyone is going to be sitting in the audience thinking "I really wish his pants were more exciting."
Yeah, for all we know the pants might even look a bit better in reality. The torso armor in those concept pics looks like shiny plastic, but we know from the promo pic of Hemsworth in costume that they have a much more leathery, layered look in reality. Drew McWeeny, who visited the set, also mentioned on his website that the look of the concept pics does not match the textures on the real costume, even though the design is the same. So there will be some subtle differences between the pics and reality. I doubt that'll appease many of the naysayers, but I personally think it'll look better made of real materials on a real person. We'll have to wait and see.

Whiskey Tango
06-05-2010, 10:38 AM
http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6126&stc=1&d=1275718481

Aside from the Marvel vs DC tpb, I managed to avoid this abomination entirely. Look at that thing! All he needs is one of those dumb brown leather jackets and some leg or chest pouches. Nothing says badass thunder god like an exposed, hairy stomach!

The 90's at their finest.:hehe:

TheCorpulent1
06-05-2010, 10:40 AM
Haha, yeah, that's tied with his Godpack costume as my absolute least favorite Thor costume ever. I mean, really, spikes and chains and a belly shirt? What was Deodato smoking? :doh:

Mercurius
06-05-2010, 10:40 AM
In the actual film you are not going to be focused on his legs. Thor wears black pants, they're usually not "special pants" just pants. They probably tried them 100 different ways and maybe they didnt want to detract from the look of his upper body. I seriously doubt in motion, on screen, with hammer and helmet that anyone is going to be sitting in the audience thinking "I really wish his pants were more exciting."


Even so, this is an argument of "it's no good, but nobody will notice".

And that's not an argument for the quality in the depiction. Nobody had to come up with any kind of excuses about Iron Man.

Nobody should have to come up with excuses for Thor's costume.

The_Mighty_Thor
06-05-2010, 10:43 AM
It's an argument that the film has already been shot so tearing it down isn't going to get them to change the costume. Why not wait till you see some actual footage before spreading some bad word of mouth publicity?

omega_man_x
06-05-2010, 10:54 AM
why is people complaining do you guys realise that Asgard is both magic and advanced technology.

just imagine this movie is like the video game "TOO HUMAN". the game is a sci-fi futuristic retelling of Norse Mythology that portrays the Norse Gods as enhanced humans. their costumes are sci-fi tech looking in the video game



http://xboxlivemedia.ign.com/xboxlive/image/article/898/898033/too-human-20080811044212782_640w.jpg
TOO HUMAN TRAILER
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Mercurius
06-05-2010, 10:56 AM
It's an argument that the film has already been shot so tearing it down isn't going to get them to change the costume. Why not wait till you see some actual footage before spreading some bad word of mouth publicity?

Well, one good reason is: I'm not getting 1 dollar with that adaptation, so I'm not like: "OMG, I hope nobody notices we just screwed up with his costume".

I feel free to speak my mind about it.

Other: I care about Thor, it's kid stuff, you know? A sentimental thing.

I'm kidding. So far, Marvel has fared well. Let's give them a chance of being right. But I feel suspicious after those pics.

Not suspicious, it's more like "I have a bad feeling about this". :woot:

roach
06-05-2010, 11:12 AM
I like the Thor pics better than the Cap pics

TheCorpulent1
06-05-2010, 11:13 AM
Me too. I'm not a fan of the movie Cap costume at all.

roach
06-05-2010, 11:16 AM
The Thor costume represents the spirit of the original costume while modifying it to make it look good for film. No aspect of the original Thor costume was done away with in favor of realism.

omega_man_x
06-05-2010, 11:24 AM
Me too. I'm not a fan of the movie Cap costume at all.

i like Cap costume, anyway aint he going to wear different costume in the movie i remeber hearing he will wear different costume when the character progress in the movie

The_Mighty_Thor
06-05-2010, 11:30 AM
That costume would be ok if it was his ww2 costume and they updated it when he revives in modern times. The shoulder straps and utility belt need to go in the modern design. Seriously why does Cap need a utility belt? He's not Batman!

TheCorpulent1
06-05-2010, 11:32 AM
The big, thick straps are my main problem with it. They overpower the rest of the torso on that costume to me.

roach
06-05-2010, 11:36 AM
the Thor costume follows with what Marvel has been doing....which is bring the characters to the movies that look ripped from the page...the Cap costume looks like something Fox would do if they had the property

Rock Sexton
06-05-2010, 11:47 AM
Does it matter? This is what we've got and it looks good to me. I would've been happy with a more old world viking look as well, but this seems to hearken back more to the Kirby and Simonson looks than the current medieval-inspired look Coipel used. Still just as valid a look for Marvel's Thor, though.

.......and let's be real, the idea of a man walking around in old world viking garb would come across utterly ridiculous on-screen next to the likes of the rest of the team. When you look at the manips of IM, Cap, and Thor you can see the "streamlined" theme they wanted them to have. It's easier on the eyes and for the general audience to accept.

omega_man_x
06-05-2010, 11:49 AM
The big, thick straps are my main problem with it. They overpower the rest of the torso on that costume to me.

ok never find it off putting it might end up different in the movie

roach
06-05-2010, 11:49 AM
I think people expected him to look like an extra from 13 Warriors

TheCorpulent1
06-05-2010, 11:56 AM
.......and let's be real, the idea of a man walking around in old world viking garb would come across utterly ridiculous on-screen next to the likes of the rest of the team. When you look at the manips of IM, Cap, and Thor you can see the "streamlined" theme they wanted them to have. It's easier on the eyes and for the general audience to accept.
Well, that part I've personally never accepted. The Avengers are a bunch of characters from very different worlds, so I think Thor in something streamlined but still very old world would've worked just fine.

But Marvel's Thor has had a variety of looks over the years and this one combines elements from various costumes, plus it looks pretty good in general, so I'm happy with it.

RogueDK
06-05-2010, 12:01 PM
Me too. I'm not a fan of the movie Cap costume at all.
Personally, I don't see either costume exempt of legitimate criticism. I honestly think that both sides of this make good arguements on its design; afterall it's just everyone's opinion on a character they love so dearly.
Thor's top half looks great but below the belt, boots in particular, just aren't what I was expecting. Looks a little Ultimate biker IMO. Not the Thor I'd have wanted.
Maybe when I see it on film and in motion, it won't matter much to me.
Cap's? :facepalm:Could be better. Other posters don't have to agree with me - that's just fine, it's not the end of the world. It would appear that nothing can be done about it now so just judge the films on their own merits. As a huge Batman fan, I still had serious reservations about his getup but it was a great movie on a whole.

So far, only Iron Man's armor hits the mark with 4 stars and you'd have to be abysmally vacuous upstairs not to get the Hulk's look right.

RIV
06-05-2010, 12:08 PM
I read quite a few Thor comics and I don't think I would have ever described Asgard that way. Would anyone have posted last week that Thor should look hi-tech?

I would have. But not hi-tech in the way that Ironman's tech pops into mind. Thor's tech has a completely different look. Im more familiar with 60's-70's Thor comics where I could easily buy the likes of the silver surfer cruising by asgard lol:
http://thouandone.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/800px-asgard.jpg

why is people complaining do you guys realise that Asgard is both magic and advanced technology.

just imagine this movie is like the video game "TOO HUMAN". the game is a sci-fi futuristic retelling of Norse Mythology that portrays the Norse Gods as enhanced humans. their costumes are sci-fi tech looking in the video game


http://xboxlivemedia.ign.com/xboxlive/image/article/898/898033/too-human-20080811044212782_640w.jpg
TOO HUMAN TRAILER
Vb4bOeaQCeY

My point exactly!

TheCorpulent1
06-05-2010, 12:11 PM
Personally, I don't see either costume exempt of legitimate criticism. I honestly think that both sides of this make good arguements on its design; afterall it's just everyone's opinion on a character they love so dearly.
Thor's top half looks great but below the belt, boots in particular, just aren't what I was expecting. Looks a little Ultimate biker IMO. Not the Thor I'd have wanted.
Maybe when I see it on film and in motion, it won't matter much to me.
Cap's? :facepalm:Could be better. Other posters don't have to agree with me - that's just fine, it's not the end of the world. It would appear that nothing can be done about it now so just judge the films on their own merits. As a huge Batman fan, I still had serious reservations about his getup but it was a great movie on a whole.

So far, only Iron Man's armor hits the mark with 4 stars and you'd have to be abysmally vacuous upstairs not to get the Hulk's look right.

Agreed. People can disagree about various parts of it--I myself would've preferred for the blue tunic to come down farther and form a loincloth look and for the pants to be gray or blue instead of black--but that's what we've got and, in the long run, it's not a big deal. It may not be what many people were expecting, but it's also not so bad that it's gonna detract from the movie overall. What really matters is how it looks and moves in action and how good the important parts of the movie itself--script, acting, direction, etc.--are.

omega_man_x
06-05-2010, 12:54 PM
I read quite a few Thor comics and I don't think I would have ever described Asgard that way. Would anyone have posted last week that Thor should look hi-tech?

yes cause Thor or Norse mythology has been done in different ways on tv series, video games, and movies.

i did say the video game "TOO HUMAN" is sci-fi futuristic retelling of Norse Mythology that portrays the Norse Gods as enhanced humans. their costumes are sci-fi tech looking in the video game.

also "Stargate SG-1" had Asgard as a alien race with hi-tech.The Asgard in the show are a extremely advanced race who become allies of Earth, and provide many of their technologies to the SGC.




My point exactly!

i understand what you getting dont know why people have issue with it been hi-tech. Norse mythology has been done in different ways in popular culture

TheCorpulent1
06-05-2010, 01:07 PM
I would have. But not hi-tech in the way that Ironman's tech pops into mind. Thor's tech has a completely different look. Im more familiar with 60's-70's Thor comics where I could easily buy the likes of the silver surfer cruising by asgard lol:
http://thouandone.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/800px-asgard.jpg



My point exactly!
Kind of a funny coincidence. Avengers: The Origin, a mini-series that updates the Avengers' origin story for modern audiences, just released its third issue this week. Guess how they made Asgard look in that...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Thor/prv5323_pg4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Thor/prv5323_pg5.jpg

Pretty techno-ish.

RogueDK
06-05-2010, 01:45 PM
I might get slammed for this but I like this person's manip of Thor that's floating around the net.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g245/RougeArtist/4j6cmd.jpg

The pants are a little busy looking but that can be rectified with making the pants a blue or grey-like cloth instead.

I like the fact that he dropped the tunic down with that flap. It's a nice attempt to break up the monotony of all of the black I suppose.

TheCorpulent1
06-05-2010, 01:48 PM
I like that too, although I agree that the pants should just be gray cloth instead of the mail/mesh. I'd also get rid of the diagonal flaps above the boots and just have him in normal, knee-high boots.

Saint
06-05-2010, 01:55 PM
That's pretty killer. I don't know about the mesh legs, but the loincloth looks great.

Incidentally, "the loincloth looks great' is an incredibly awkward sentence to type.

TheCorpulent1
06-05-2010, 02:03 PM
Yeah, I feel a little weird every time I type the word "loincloth."

sabetoonth
06-05-2010, 02:21 PM
loincloth, loincloth lol
not that hard, im with Corp with that manip but with cloth pants would looks great

Bren
06-05-2010, 06:19 PM
Really like that manip. My major issue with the... er... lower half of the costume is the plainness of it all. Especially compared to the top.

louiebling$
06-05-2010, 06:33 PM
I might get slammed for this but I like this person's manip of Thor that's floating around the net.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g245/RougeArtist/4j6cmd.jpg

The pants are a little busy looking but that can be rectified with making the pants a blue or grey-like cloth instead.

I like the fact that he dropped the tunic down with that flap. It's a nice attempt to break up the monotony of all of the black I suppose.
:awesome::heart:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The_Mighty_Thor
06-05-2010, 07:10 PM
Really like that manip. My major issue with the... er... lower half of the costume is the plainness of it all. Especially compared to the top.

I suspect the majority of long shots will be during the action sequences, anybody staring at his pants then is watching the movie for a totally different reason than the majority of fans!:o

Asgard
06-05-2010, 09:23 PM
Nice manip. The loincloth seems unecessary.

Btw, before TDK came out, did anyone ever use the term "busy" to describe comic book movie costumes?

I swear, anytime a costume has any sort of intricate design or whatever, you know someones gonna chime in with a "busy".

Webhead2006
06-06-2010, 12:21 AM
i really dont see what is wrong with the whole look. They took the copiol design of the top and sorta took classic pants look for bottom. But we should wait to see how the real materials look like. Cause for all we know it could be cloth pants, and slightly different looking boots and all that.

Mercurius
06-06-2010, 03:03 AM
I might get slammed for this but I like this person's manip of Thor that's floating around the net.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g245/RougeArtist/4j6cmd.jpg

The pants are a little busy looking but that can be rectified with making the pants a blue or grey-like cloth instead.

I like the fact that he dropped the tunic down with that flap. It's a nice attempt to break up the monotony of all of the black I suppose.

That's much better, much more balanced.

Still don't like the boots, but below the waist the overall result is better by far.

That would be more than acceptable.

Bren
06-06-2010, 04:17 AM
I suspect the majority of long shots will be during the action sequences, anybody staring at his pants then is watching the movie for a totally different reason than the majority of fans!:o

Yeah well, if I'd never seen the concept art, or manips, I'm pretty sure I'd never notice the complete and utter lack of any kind of imagination / style to match the top half of the outfit (besides the wonky leg brace thing) during the film.

Now of course, it's all I'll be looking at :whatever:...
:cwink:

Incidentally, I kinda think that legband could be an admission from the designers, that the pants are not 'styled' enough. Even if they give it an actual duty (holding the hammer as some have suggested).

Whiskey Tango
06-06-2010, 08:45 AM
So let's get this straight: If they change the costume for the screen then fans ***** because it isn't faithful to the comics. So they try to stick to the style portrayed in the comics, and the fans ***** because it isn't imaginative enough.

It's a wonder they pay attention to the online community at all. I wouldn't.

Bren
06-06-2010, 09:18 AM
So let's get this straight: If they change the costume for the screen then fans ***** because it isn't faithful to the comics. So they try to stick to the style portrayed in the comics, and the fans ***** because it isn't imaginative enough.

It's a wonder they pay attention to the online community at all. I wouldn't.

So plain black leatherish pants and army boots with knee braces are the style portrayed in the comics?

Before anyone jumps, no I don't think his regular outfit could be translated directly. However, the above manip shows what we got could have been better.

Tbh, I'm not making a big deal about it, it's just my opinion.

Whiskey Tango
06-06-2010, 10:00 AM
Wasn't really singling you out as the Thor boards remain reasonably calm about this stuff. The Captain America costume thread has had a few annoying types the last few days that have set my teeth on edge.

TheCorpulent1
06-06-2010, 10:08 AM
Yeah, you guys are usually pretty cool about disagreements and conflicting opinions. I'm glad I'm modding these boards, specifically. Nice crowd. :up:

Venom'sDad
06-06-2010, 10:14 AM
I might get slammed for this but I like this person's manip of Thor that's floating around the net.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g245/RougeArtist/4j6cmd.jpg

The pants are a little busy looking but that can be rectified with making the pants a blue or grey-like cloth instead.

I like the fact that he dropped the tunic down with that flap. It's a nice attempt to break up the monotony of all of the black I suppose.

Yes, the pants are quite busy; but, I do prefer the pants to match the sleeves, tucked into the boots. The straight black pants, looks to bland and plain... there's not much contrast or form to them. I certainly hope this is just a concept and not the actual.

roach
06-06-2010, 10:40 AM
Wasn't really singling you out as the Thor boards remain reasonably calm about this stuff. The Captain America costume thread has had a few annoying types the last few days that have set my teeth on edge.

I gave up there because no one wanted to discuss anything...everyone is closed minded

Angamb
06-06-2010, 10:50 AM
I might get slammed for this but I like this person's manip of Thor that's floating around the net.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g245/RougeArtist/4j6cmd.jpg



ok, now he looks like a real warrior.

Webhead2006
06-06-2010, 11:24 AM
yea that design is nice.

roach
06-06-2010, 11:41 AM
I keep looking at that face and seeing Will Ferrell

The Sage
06-06-2010, 11:48 AM
Ha! I see what you mean Roach. :funny:

Now I'm curious to how the chainmail pants would've looked but I like the black pants.

Ironically enough, despite the criticism for Thor looking too techy, the only part of the costume that irritates me are the soles of the boots, the texture. That's the only part that throws me off.

RogueDK
06-06-2010, 12:37 PM
Ironically enough, despite the criticism for Thor looking too techy, the only part of the costume that irritates me are the soles of the boots, the texture. That's the only part that throws me off.
Not fitting of one who's a god.
To be fair though, perhaps fitting for the actor himself because he has to lug around in the costume for the majority of the day, every day to keep his feet comfortable but not for Thor.

Thought they could come up with something abit more fitting. Superman nor Thor have no need for soles like that.

Mercurius
06-06-2010, 04:37 PM
Well, ladies & gents.

Now it's too late: the movie was shot, there's nothing to do about it.

Let's just hope someone there sees this nice retouching with the mesh covering his legs and that it may be adopted for the Avengers movie.

conan69
06-06-2010, 05:10 PM
I prefer the manipulation above to the concept art.

Sometimes Im amazed at how they can get some of these things so wrrong.

Tony Stark
06-06-2010, 06:48 PM
Sorry but the manip is horrible. He looks like a porn star.

RockSP
06-06-2010, 07:55 PM
I keep looking at that face and seeing Will Ferrell

Thor the B@#$% Hunter?

marcvader
06-06-2010, 07:57 PM
I personally don't like the look of the manip with mail legs but I certainly don't like the route they took either.

darthlaney
06-06-2010, 09:12 PM
How about this - a little recolour, rather than redesign might have made a difference?

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk28/laney_74/thorconceptartchrishems_edit.jpg

Webhead2006
06-07-2010, 12:06 AM
i too can see a little bit of will f. too in the cgi renders. but yea that is probably do to being a cg render.

Sharkboy
06-07-2010, 06:22 AM
Jeez where are you people getting the will farrell stuff from. Considering as im not much of a Thor fan, can anyone tell me, is that how Mjolnir is supposed to look? Doesn't it look a little small to anyone, or is that how it's supposed to be. I'd just expect something a little bigger than a meat tenderizer.

roach
06-07-2010, 06:57 AM
The render of Thor holding the hammer in front of him looks like Will Farrell in the face.

yes thats pretty much the size of the hammer

JP
06-07-2010, 07:55 AM
Sorry but most, if not all, of the manips of Cap and Thor are TERRIBLE. The looks we have for the films are superior.

Hmarrs
06-07-2010, 01:14 PM
Edit.

Hmarrs
06-07-2010, 01:15 PM
The render of Thor holding the hammer in front of him looks like Will Farrell in the face.

yes thats pretty much the size of the hammer
Yeah I see it now it's funny!!!!:hehe:

Hmarrs
06-07-2010, 01:17 PM
I personally don't like the look of the manip with mail legs but I certainly don't like the route they took either.
Where's that manip?I'd like to see it please.

Hmarrs
06-07-2010, 01:20 PM
It's all in the boots man.The one thing that made him stand out was that he had boots like no-one in all of comics.Also he needs the Yellow on his costume if not then use Gold like Iron man.It's dull and dark.His colors is what always put him on scale of Superman as well because they both had the same colors.Blue,Red,and Yellow.Also the Wings on Caps head.It seems that they take the most essential part and originality of what makes these characters.No one else had wings like Cap.With a mask now his mask looks thousands of other hero's.It's like making the Hulk and not making him Green or flesh tone.It's what makes these Characters.I just don't understand.It's just wierd how the Iconic part and the essential part of what made them different is what they take out????Just plain Black boots on Thor????I loved his boots no-one else had boots like him.Make them rubber,leather or whatever but plain black?????Even take the boots they have on him now and throw some yellow on them instead of red clothe.Use metal,clothe whatever!!!If not you could even put it even in the indentations of the boots he has on now.Really.Imagine how dynamic he would have looked with his boots????I see Thor I think of his Boots helmets okay,capes okay,many others have those but to me it was his boots.Cap Stars, stripes okay many other patriotic heros have them but when you think Cap you think of those tiny wings.Sorry but you do.I keep looking and Evans head and it looks naked like there is somthing missing.I know it's those flippin Wings!!!Same thing with the Abombmination you think Abomb you think of those crazy ears.Yet that's what they left out??????????I just don't get it.
It deosn't matter what the reason is put it inthere.It's what makes them Iconic!!!!!

GhostPoet
06-07-2010, 01:43 PM
I think this looks much better than the comic version, to be honest.

GhostPoet
06-07-2010, 01:47 PM
I think they should have a little "wink wink nudge nudge" moment where Fury is talking with Thor about the Avengers and says SHIELD has created a uniform for him and there we see the classic outfit from the comics, fugly tights and all. And Thor finding the joke NOT funny, saying he has his own outfit.

Webhead2006
06-07-2010, 02:04 PM
to me i see nothing wrong with the concept artworks for the two films costumes. Both look just fine.

Darknightnomis
06-07-2010, 02:06 PM
They blew it on the bottom half of the uniform.

teh pants and "boots" Looks like an X-Men costume reject.

roach
06-07-2010, 02:57 PM
dont worry Thor will have a more faithful costume when he is on stage for the USO and then when he goes to war he modifies it to the costume we see hear....:)

Webhead2006
06-07-2010, 03:14 PM
well we dont know how the materials yet for the pants or boots are going to look in real life compared to the concept which makes it look like plastic and all that.

Canis Sapiens
06-07-2010, 03:55 PM
It's confirmed!

Thor's gonna wear a helmet. With wings!

http://i50.tinypic.com/2up8vaa.png


Sorry, couldn't resist. :hehe:

Rust
06-07-2010, 04:30 PM
Hehe, good one. Seriously.

Anyways, no real sense in posting this, but I always wanted the type of THOR-movie where he wore something like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/Stigart/thoroutfit.jpg

Something more dirty, brutal and LOTR'esque. Yeah, it's far from the comicbook, but a bit more respectful compared to what we got imo. 1st class viking outfit. Blab-blah... and so it is...

Dotten
06-07-2010, 04:37 PM
Very few vikings wore helmets anyway, it's more a myth-thing. They never-ever wore helmets with horns or wings.

Only one helmet from the viking-age exists, and there are som pictured in runes.

Horns and wings was introduced i "pop-culture" in the 19th century.

Let them use Thor to put it all right. :D

roach
06-07-2010, 07:55 PM
Very few vikings wore helmets anyway, it's more a myth-thing. They never-ever wore helmets with horns or wings.

Only one helmet from the viking-age exists, and there are som pictured in runes.

Horns and wings was introduced i "pop-culture" in the 19th century.

Let them use Thor to put it all right. :D

actually me and Mr Peabody used the Way-Back-Machine and went back to ancient Norway and everyone had helmets...with horns, wings, snakes...:woot:

bunk
06-07-2010, 08:26 PM
Hehe, good one. Seriously.

Anyways, no real sense in posting this, but I always wanted the type of THOR-movie where he wore something like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/Stigart/thoroutfit.jpg

Something more dirty, brutal and LOTR'esque. Yeah, it's far from the comicbook, but a bit more respectful compared to what we got imo. 1st class viking outfit. Blab-blah... and so it is...

I think this is what everyone was expecting a while back. Marvel seems to have an idea of what the Thor universe needs to be in order to mesh with everything else. This costume is just the first taste of it.

The Sage
06-07-2010, 09:30 PM
Sounds like a lot of people were expecting a LOTR-esque looking Thor instead of a Marvel-esque one.

Spider-Vader
06-07-2010, 09:51 PM
Marvel was what I was wanting. Don't see why anyone here would want anything else.

Vartha
06-07-2010, 10:33 PM
Sounds like a lot of people were expecting a LOTR-esque looking Thor instead of a Marvel-esque one.
Because when Marvel
FIRST announced they were going to make Thor they said the movie was SUPPOSED to be a LotR type film and not only that the first script was in the past for the most part.

Vartha
06-07-2010, 10:52 PM
Very few vikings wore helmets anyway, it's more a myth-thing. They never-ever wore helmets with horns or wings.

Only one helmet from the viking-age exists, and there are som pictured in runes.

Horns and wings was introduced i "pop-culture" in the 19th century.

Let them use Thor to put it all right. :D
There are PLENTY of Viking helmets out there still. It's the horns and wings that were made up yes.
The Vikings were the ones that came up with the coned shaped helmet because it defected blows the head better than other shapes.

Webhead2006
06-07-2010, 11:53 PM
haha funny wings helmet lol .

roach
06-08-2010, 03:06 AM
Because when Marvel
FIRST announced they were going to make Thor they said the movie was SUPPOSED to be a LotR type film and not only that the first script was in the past for the most part.

I think they meant it was going to be an epic like LOTR not people dressed like LOTR

Canis Sapiens
06-08-2010, 08:08 AM
haha funny wings helmet lol .

Funny... and delicious! :oldrazz:

GhostPoet
06-08-2010, 01:59 PM
For me...I think the design is PERFECT because it not only will look good in action, but it will really mix well with the other heroes in the Avengers. If you throw it too much chain mail and lotro-esque style boots, clothing, etc...it's going to come off VERY cheesy. And Thor already has a big fight ahead of himself in regards to winning over the audience. A magic based, Viking wearing hero fighting along side Cap and Iron Man? Just describing that to a non-fan would make them laugh and pass it off.

roach
06-08-2010, 02:02 PM
For me...I think the design is PERFECT because it not only will look good in action, but it will really mix well with the other heroes in the Avengers. If you throw it too much chain mail and lotro-esque style boots, clothing, etc...it's going to come off VERY cheesy. And Thor already has a big fight ahead of himself in regards to winning over the audience. A magic based, Viking wearing hero fighting along side Cap and Iron Man? Just describing that to a non-fan would make them laugh and pass it off.

I dont think so...I mean the biggest movie ever was about a crippled Marine putting his mind into a blue monkey....on of the biggest movies of the past summer was Clash of the Titans. The Harry Potter movies mix modern and mystical all the time....

GhostPoet
06-08-2010, 02:10 PM
I dont think so...I mean the biggest movie ever was about a crippled Marine putting his mind into a blue monkey....on of the biggest movies of the past summer was Clash of the Titans. The Harry Potter movies mix modern and mystical all the time....

Yes, but Avatar was science. Harry Potter for the most part was magic, very little of the films took place in the "real word".

Thor is a guy with a hammer that wears armor and uses magic powers to fight villains. I dare you to describe him in the "real world" to a non-fan and see if they would be interested...because so far I've only gotten the "you've got to be kidding me" expressions when I describe the awesomness of it. :)

RockSP
06-08-2010, 03:01 PM
Yes, but Avatar was science. Harry Potter for the most part was magic, very little of the films took place in the "real word".

Thor is a guy with a hammer that wears armor and uses magic powers to fight villains. I dare you to describe him in the "real world" to a non-fan and see if they would be interested...because so far I've only gotten the "you've got to be kidding me" expressions when I describe the awesomness of it. :)

I agree with roach. I think you are giving the general audience either too much credit or not enough...heh heh. The original Star Wars flicks mixed psuedo-science with "mysticism" with pretty good results.

TheCorpulent1
06-08-2010, 03:54 PM
Yes, but Avatar was science. Harry Potter for the most part was magic, very little of the films took place in the "real word".

Thor is a guy with a hammer that wears armor and uses magic powers to fight villains. I dare you to describe him in the "real world" to a non-fan and see if they would be interested...because so far I've only gotten the "you've got to be kidding me" expressions when I describe the awesomness of it. :)
Try describing Thor as what he is, then: A living god who comes to Earth to smack the s*** out of villains with a giant hammer. His magic aspects, while important, are basically part of his backstory, not anything too pronounced in his day-to-day operations. He's not Dr. Strange or Harry Potter. He has a much more visceral type of magic that's easier for action movie audiences to connect with.

Duker Jay
06-08-2010, 05:47 PM
Thor is a guy with a hammer that wears armor and uses magic powers to fight villains. I dare you to describe him in the "real world" to a non-fan and see if they would be interested...because so far I've only gotten the "you've got to be kidding me" expressions when I describe the awesomness of it. :)

You could describe Iron Man as a guy with a metal suit that uses science to fight super-villains. Before the first one came out, describing the idea of that to people might have elicited the same response.

There's just as much fantasy in IM and Hulk (and X-Men and Spider-Man, for that matter) as there is in Thor, Thor just has that sort of otherworldly aspect to its fantasy.

In the end, it's going to come down to how well the movie's done, ie. the acting, character development, story. The audience will accept the fantastical aspects of the story if it is done well.

In regards to the costume design, I was hoping we'd get some sort of...well, crotch flap (I believe that is the technical term) to kind of balance out the bottom half of the outfit. It feels a little top-heavy to me...

Webhead2006
06-08-2010, 05:52 PM
yea for me still for both thor and cap the designs are fine as heck. I cant wait to see more images of the real stuff and then of course see it in action/moving.

thegameq
06-08-2010, 06:24 PM
I prefer the manipulation above to the concept art.

Sometimes Im amazed at how they can get some of these things so wrrong.

You and me both...it really is stunning. I thought there was no way anyone could possibly mess up Thor's costume. I mean..Days of Thunder, the Copiel design, etc...it's all right there.

When all is said and done Thor is essentially a sword and sorcery character. His costume should have been a no brainer...

You really have to wonder about the creative decisions in these films.....some of them are just piss poor. But, worse is that apparently there is no one standing up and saying it looks like ****.

I don't care how optimistic some may be, that costume design is so uninspired it a crying shame. Thor should look regal and noble, yet rugged. Think 300, Gladiator, LOTR, Excalibur.

It just boggles the mind how such a poor ass design got approved--especially where Marvel seemed to be on a role with the designs for the Hulk and IM.

Jesus what the hell happened to Thor. If Marvel is so scared ****less of the god aspect of the character--which is probably all this comes down to when everything is said and done--why bother to bring the ****ing character to the big screen in the first place!!

thegameq
06-08-2010, 06:47 PM
Because when Marvel
FIRST announced they were going to make Thor they said the movie was SUPPOSED to be a LotR type film and not only that the first script was in the past for the most part.

I believe that was the version of Thor that was supposed to be LOTR esque with a mix of Gladiator thrown in. Marvel turned it down because it would have been to expensive.

So instead of grandiose battles with the Frost Giants, etc. and the Demon Surtur we get ...techno Thor--or roughly translated: Ultimate Thor disguised as psuedo 616 Thor.

Real sneaky Marvel, they still manage to slip Ultimate Thor in the movie some how.

Vartha
06-08-2010, 08:14 PM
I believe that was the version of Thor that was supposed to be LOTR esque with a mix of Gladiator thrown in. Marvel turned it down because it would have been to expensive.

So instead of grandiose battles with the Frost Giants, etc. and the Demon Surtur we get ...techno Thor--or roughly translated: Ultimate Thor disguised as psuedo 616 Thor.

Real sneaky Marvel, they still manage to slip Ultimate Thor in the movie some how.
Yeah I know that. I think the first script was supposed to be 300 mil and they told Vaughn and Protosevich to cut it by half. We still ended up with a 200 mil budget tho.
When Vaughn was still on the film, Thor was SUPPOSED to be set entirely in the Viking era, not in modern times. If you look at the Ages of Thunder book, Man of War, THAT in many ways was like the script, but the script had Thor as a slave and Man of War had Thor as a Don Blake kind of character, a Viking Healer.
The whole first draft would have been very cool on screen. I really hope they print the first draft as a novel. People need to read it.:woot:

Vartha
06-08-2010, 08:33 PM
I think they meant it was going to be an epic like LOTR not people dressed like LOTR
The first script was set in the VIKING era like I've said above. MAYBE about 5 minutes of the end of the script took places present day the way it's written.

roach
06-08-2010, 08:55 PM
I agree with roach. I think you are giving the general audience either too much credit or not enough...heh heh. The original Star Wars flicks mixed psuedo-science with "mysticism" with pretty good results.

The GA will believe anything you present them as long as you set it up.
Is there even a superhero flick that failed because it was too unbelievable?????
I am all in favor of making superheroes seem like they are in our world but if you have to change a character to bring it into our world then I think you are approaching the character wrong. Imagine if someone took that approach to Star Wars...toning things down to make it real. What makes Watchmen one of the better adaptations is they didnt try to do those characters in our world..they did those characters in their world. Show me a world where Thor can be what he is in the comics, show me a world where Cap can wear his 616 costume and it makes sense. Raimi's Spider-man world was perfect for this. It looked like our world but people were one nutty accident away from superpowers.

sabetoonth
06-08-2010, 09:27 PM
ya know, if you look at the suit, then lets look at the classic
-Discs-Present
-Tunic type thing-Check
-pants of solid color and no complex designpCheck

Ultimate design comparison
black-Presnt
combat-like boots-Check

New Design comparison
-Mail on the arms

ok that was just off the top og my head, i also didnt count anything i had already counted once, hence why Discs only get one mention

TheCorpulent1
06-09-2010, 07:42 AM
Black has been a part of Thor's costume since the Kirby design. Kirby just did the usual blue highlights that made lots of people over the years think it was supposed to be blue, just like what happened to Spider-Man's costume.

pwhitrow
06-09-2010, 08:13 AM
I found Thor's helmet!...

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100605.html

roach
06-09-2010, 08:14 AM
cant argue with astronomy

Hmarrs
06-09-2010, 08:15 AM
Black has been a part of Thor's costume since the Kirby design. Kirby just did the usual blue highlights that made lots of people over the years think it was supposed to be blue, just like what happened to Spider-Man's costume.
Okay here comes the stupidity factor.So forgive me if I seem Naive.So you mean all these years his costume was black?Okay I can accept that but your telling Spiderman's costume was supposed to be black as well.I mean I am not saying your wrong.I am just asking how you found out?Or was it just deduction.SO now you got me thinking that's how Batman Cowl went from Black on Grey to Blue on Grey.

roach
06-09-2010, 08:46 AM
Okay here comes the stupidity factor.So forgive me if I seem Naive.So you mean all these years his costume was black?Okay I can accept that but your telling Spiderman's costume was supposed to be black as well.I mean I am not saying your wrong.I am just asking how you found out?Or was it just deduction.SO now you got me thinking that's how Batman Cowl went from Black on Grey to Blue on Grey.

if you look at the original cover its black

TheCorpulent1
06-09-2010, 08:52 AM
Yeah, it's almost completely black with just a few blue highlights. Compare it to Thor's pants, which are actually blue.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Thor/5510-1497-6023-1-journey-into-myste.jpg

The_Mighty_Thor
06-09-2010, 09:26 AM
I can't remember the Kirby thor design ever having a blue top and I don't remember the original Spiderman ever being black. I think with Batman the limited ink colors caused the change. So much of him was black when he was draped in his cape with no other colors to break it up they needed to change it to blue so you could see the art work.

IrishMitchy
06-09-2010, 03:17 PM
Am I alone in thinking the new concept art looked like an American Gladiators comepetitor?

Jobling
06-09-2010, 03:56 PM
http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/109/1095918/thor-cap-logos-debut-20100609113813875.jpg

official poster

TheCorpulent1
06-09-2010, 04:27 PM
Am I alone in thinking the new concept art looked like an American Gladiators comepetitor?
Probably. Largely because those American Gladiators people were far more naked than Thor, who's covered almost from head to toe, is. :oldrazz:

Webhead2006
06-09-2010, 09:10 PM
well it will be great to have more official stills soon.

RogueDK
06-10-2010, 11:59 AM
Black has been a part of Thor's costume since the Kirby design. Kirby just did the usual blue highlights that made lots of people over the years think it was supposed to be blue, just like what happened to Spider-Man's costume.
That's probably as debatable as whether or not Thor's helmet wings were real or metal - they've been drawn as both depending on whomever the artist was at the time. Even as Kirby progressed on the character and his artistic approach, the pants were blue. There's really not much proof that Kirby intended the spandex to be black as is much trying to find a color scheme palatable for the character's cosmetic...and that meant the colorist getting the okay from the editor to go with said color.

By that logic, every incarnation of the Hulk on screen should've been gray instead of green.
It was just a time when superheroes could don fantastical costumes drenched in primary colors...something that seems to be a no-no with many of today's audiences.

Webhead2006
06-10-2010, 12:17 PM
totally.

sabetoonth
06-10-2010, 12:58 PM
i was hoping for Grey Hulk in TIH or HULK

big Grey Hulk fan :hulk:

TheCorpulent1
06-10-2010, 01:04 PM
That's probably as debatable as whether or not Thor's helmet wings were real or metal - they've been drawn as both depending on whomever the artist was at the time. Even as Kirby progressed on the character and his artistic approach, the pants were blue. There's really not much proof that Kirby intended the spandex to be black as is much trying to find a color scheme palatable for the character's cosmetic...and that meant the colorist getting the okay from the editor to go with said color.

By that logic, every incarnation of the Hulk on screen should've been gray instead of green.
It was just a time when superheroes could don fantastical costumes drenched in primary colors...something that seems to be a no-no with many of today's audiences.
I never said Thor's pants were black. I said his top was, which you can tell pretty clearly in part because of the contrast between its shading and the shading on the pants, which were clearly intended to be blue. The coloring's pretty consistent in the first volume of Thor's comic, too: black top, blue discs (that later became white and eventually textured to look like metal), blue pants, red cape, yellow belt, yellow wrappings over black boots, red bracers with a black stripe around the middle. I just recently read through the entire Thor series up to the Simonson run over last year and some of this year, and I saw that color combination pretty consistently. It wasn't until later that blue started overpowering the black to the point that you might question whether it was meant to be highlights or the actual main color of the top.

RogueDK
06-10-2010, 01:15 PM
I never said Thor's pants were black. I said his top was, which you can tell pretty clearly in part because of the contrast between its shading and the shading on the pants, which were clearly intended to be blue. The coloring's pretty consistent in the first volume of Thor's comic, too: black top, blue discs (that later became white and eventually textured to look like metal), blue pants, red cape, yellow belt, yellow wrappings over black boots, red bracers with a black stripe around the middle. I just recently read through the entire Thor series up to the Simonson run over last year and some of this year, and I saw that color combination pretty consistently. It wasn't until later that blue started overpowering the black to the point that you might question whether it was meant to be highlights or the actual main color of the top.
Please sincerely accept my apologies then. Old school passion overuled me carefully sorting out your post and what you were trying to say :o.
It's just getting a little trying when eveyone tries to rationalize something from the past in order to make stuff sound reasonable for today when it doesn't necessarily call for it.

I may not be a hardcore Thor fan like you or my son, Corp. But I can attest that I've read alot more of the character than both of you combined and he's always been one of very few who has been a "work-in-progress" type character with all of his little tweaks while maintaining the same motif that I've grown accustomed to and loved.

I want classic Thor even now when it's inevitable that it's not just going to happen. Nothing left to do but deal with it.

TheCorpulent1
06-10-2010, 01:28 PM
Geez, how much Thor have you read? 'Cause I've read pretty much everything outside of a few stray issues in the 300s and 400s of volume 1, a handful of issues from volume 2, and some assorted minis, one-shots, and annuals over the years. :oldrazz:

I agree about the tweaks, though. Thor's "classic" costume has gone through numerous iterations that changed everything from the texture and thickness of the discs to whether his tunic has arm-holes or just tucks into his belt on the front and back, leaving his sides exposed. It's kind of fun to spot the differences between artists' interpretations of the costume as you read. :up:

But yeah, I wasn't trying to justify the movie costume or anything. Just pointing out that black on a Thor costume is absolutely not an Ultimate invention. Ultimate pretty much only invented their Thor having hippie overtones and being a sucky weakling. :oldrazz:

ddddeeee
06-10-2010, 01:40 PM
Thor was clearly holding his helmet in that footage, too bad quality to see it though.

JDym
06-10-2010, 02:27 PM
Errrrr looks like he's holding mjolnir..

RogueDK
06-10-2010, 02:34 PM
Geez, how much Thor have you read? 'Cause I've read pretty much everything outside of a few stray issues in the 300s and 400s of volume 1, a handful of issues from volume 2, and some assorted minis, one-shots, and annuals over the years. :oldrazz:

Let's just say...I've read alot and I have countless boxes of old Thor and Cap comics stored away in closets in my house that my wife can't help but complain about taking up space. Well, the only difference is that you've read your fill over a shorter amount of time than I have.

I might be a DC fanboy but you wouldn't know it since I have as many Marvel comics as I do DC. Good characters are still good characters.

But yeah, I wasn't trying to justify the movie costume or anything. Just pointing out that black on a Thor costume is absolutely not an Ultimate invention. Ultimate pretty much only invented their Thor having hippie overtones and being a sucky weakling. :oldrazz:
Nothing but the truth here. :word:

TheCorpulent1
06-10-2010, 02:37 PM
Errrrr looks like he's holding mjolnir..
Maybe in his other hand? I watched it again and it doesn't look like he's holding anything in his other hand, but the quality really is terrible if you're trying to see such small details.

Angamb
06-10-2010, 02:43 PM
I can see the hammer.

JDym
06-10-2010, 02:43 PM
Maybe in his other hand? I watched it again and it doesn't look like he's holding anything in his other hand, but the quality really is terrible if you're trying to see such small details.


http://www.**************.com/images/users/gallerypictures/12384L.jpg

Corp, it seems to me he's holding Mjolnir from the handle.

TheCorpulent1
06-10-2010, 02:49 PM
Yeah, I agree, he was holding Mjolnir. I was suggesting that maybe ddddeeee meant he was holding the helmet in his other hand, but I couldn't make anything out in his other hand.

JDym
06-10-2010, 02:49 PM
http://juliathemenace.com/thor.jpg

JDym
06-10-2010, 02:52 PM
Yeah, I agree, he was holding Mjolnir. I was suggesting that maybe ddddeeee meant he was holding the helmet in his other hand, but I couldn't make anything out in his other hand.

Oh, my bad!

Jobling
06-10-2010, 02:58 PM
http://juliathemenace.com/thor.jpg


In the picture I noticed a difference in the bottom of the suit! I think it will be different from what we saw in previous pictures

JDym
06-10-2010, 03:03 PM
In the picture I noticed a difference in the bottom of the suit! I think it will be different from what we saw in previous pictures

Tunic extension?

I know it's horribly blown up, but if judging by the shade of the arms to the coloring of the legs, it may not be those simple black pants afterall

TheCorpulent1
06-10-2010, 03:48 PM
I wouldn't really assume anything based on those shots. It's all just blobs of color once you get them big enough to discern any kind of small details.

Manowar
06-10-2010, 06:10 PM
Let's just say...I've read alot and I have countless boxes of old Thor and Cap comics stored away in closets in my house that my wife can't help but complain about taking up space. Well, the only difference is that you've read your fill over a shorter amount of time than I have.

I might be a DC fanboy but you wouldn't know it since I have as many Marvel comics as I do DC. Good characters are still good characters.


Nothing but the truth here. :word:

Hmmm lets see, the ONLY Thor comics I dont own are: Journey into Mystery #83,84,86,87,88,89,94,95,96,97,99,100,103,105,106, 107. So basically I'm missing 16 issues out of about 600 Thor Comics.

Do I win? :)

sabetoonth
06-10-2010, 09:33 PM
^^^^holy crap!

could someoen snap a screen cap of Odin? the vid wont load for me

Webhead2006
06-11-2010, 12:52 AM
yea to bad the ET footage wasnt closer up to see the lower half better to compare it to the cg render concept drawing.

roach
06-11-2010, 07:31 AM
the question I have is how much time is Thor going to spend in costume and in his blue shirt and jeans

Spider-ManHero12
06-11-2010, 07:38 AM
Awesome vdeo. TOo bad we couldn't get a close up though.

RogueDK
06-11-2010, 08:45 AM
Hmmm lets see, the ONLY Thor comics I dont own are: Journey into Mystery #83,84,86,87,88,89,94,95,96,97,99,100,103,105,106, 107. So basically I'm missing 16 issues out of about 600 Thor Comics.

Do I win?
If hinting around your Thor collection being larger than mine then by all means... go for it. I never said that I owned every single issue of the character, just that I've read just about anything with Thor in it over my lifetime. Not looking for the title for having amassed the most periodicals of any poster here...That's too much like d*** measuring. :hehe:
I'm sure, in this case, that your stash might be larger than mine but I never bother counting things like that; I just know I have them.


I do, however, own a couple of those Journey Into Mystery issues that you don't but they're both in such disrepair that it's probably not worth much at all to bother with...

roach
06-11-2010, 08:52 AM
not only do I own every Thor issue but I also have the runes that tell the stories of the myth

Manowar
06-11-2010, 09:09 AM
If hinting around your Thor collection being larger than mine then by all means... go for it. I never said that I owned every single issue of the character, just that I've read just about anything with Thor in it over my lifetime. Not looking for the title for having amassed the most periodicals of any poster here...That's too much like d*** measuring. :hehe:
I'm sure, in this case, that your stash might be larger than mine but I never bother counting things like that; I just know I have them.


I do, however, own a couple of those Journey Into Mystery issues that you don't but they're both in such disrepair that it's probably not worth much at all to bother with...

I forgot to put a smily face in my post so I edited it. What I said was just making light of the already D*** measuring that was happening. :)

Those Journey Into Mystery issues are hard to find and usually in bad condition. Do you have #83?

RogueDK
06-11-2010, 09:30 AM
I forgot to put a smily face in my post so I edited it. What I said was just making light of the already D*** measuring that was happening. :)

Those Journey Into Mystery issues are hard to find and usually in bad condition. Do you have #83?
Yeah, right... I wish I owned a copy of #83. :hehe:

No of the two issues I have, that escaped my mother's cleaning spells, one is in the 100s and the other I distinctly remember is of Thor fighting Loki on the rainbow bridge with Odin in the background. The cover is noticably weathered and if it were exposed to air any good length of time, it would probably start crumbling in your hands.

I won them both off of a kid from playing a best of 3 in shooting marbles and they were pretty old then. For the kiddies out there, marbles was a game played "outside" before the Playstation and Xbox raped you of your physical conditioning. :woot:

TheCorpulent1
06-11-2010, 10:07 AM
Let's be fair, here. McDonald's and Burger King were raping kids of their physical conditioning long before Playstations and Xboxes. ;)

The_Mighty_Thor
06-11-2010, 10:29 AM
Yeah, right... I wish I owned a copy of #83. :hehe:

No of the two issues I have, that escaped my mother's cleaning spells, one is in the 100s and the other I distinctly remember is of Thor fighting Loki on the rainbow bridge with Odin in the background. The cover is noticably weathered and if it were exposed to air any good length of time, it would probably start crumbling in your hands.

I won them both off of a kid from playing a best of 3 in shooting marbles and they were pretty old then. For the kiddies out there, marbles was a game played "outside" before the Playstation and Xbox raped you of your physical conditioning. :woot:

and I'm sure marbles had you built like a god!:hehe:

RogueDK
06-11-2010, 10:37 AM
and I'm sure marbles had you built like a god!:hehe:
:hehe: Well yeah, among other physical activities as a kid; I was never obese... but I was a Marble God...so you're automatically ripped. The six pack comes with the awesomeness. It's the law, man. :woot:

Thanks for the chuckle, btw.

Webhead2006
06-11-2010, 09:47 PM
as for costume and human attire, i would say probably a good 50/50 deal here. Or a 70/30(70 for costume/30 for human attire).

roach
06-12-2010, 05:20 AM
:hehe: Well yeah, among other physical activities as a kid; I was never obese... but I was a Marble God...so you're automatically ripped. The six pack comes with the awesomeness. It's the law, man. :woot:

Thanks for the chuckle, btw.

ancient Marble God or Techno New Human Marble God

RogueDK
06-12-2010, 01:58 PM
ancient Marble God or Techno New Human Marble God
Reluctantly...ancient. Though not that ancient. :o

Do kids even still play marbles :huh:? Sorry to get off subject.

No, old school Thor and winged cowl Cap for me. No techno crap.

TheCorpulent1
06-12-2010, 02:04 PM
Nope. Kids most certainly do not still play marbles. Except maybe on Facebook. :oldrazz:

roach
06-12-2010, 02:29 PM
do they even know what a marble is???

The Infernal
06-12-2010, 06:39 PM
They'd probably think it's a type of cake.

Webhead2006
06-13-2010, 10:41 PM
lol guys.

Hmarrs
06-15-2010, 09:27 AM
You know I bet Thor won't fly.

TheCorpulent1
06-15-2010, 09:34 AM
That would suck.

Webhead2006
06-15-2010, 11:48 AM
why wouldnt they have him fly, its one of his key/known powers. It would be silly not to do it. They might just change it he can fly and not from the hammer if they didnt want to do the whole hammer flying deal(since flying by hammer does seem a little silly).

sabetoonth
06-15-2010, 12:26 PM
"Hammer tech?"
"yeah"
:p
either that or
"Fly Hammer Airlines!"

Manowar
06-15-2010, 01:44 PM
There's a very good chance that he won't be wearing his helmet most of the time. And I can understand this and think it is a good thing. In the movie he would look better without it anyways. Maybe he will only use it during formal events or something.

GhostPoet
06-15-2010, 01:45 PM
You know I bet Thor won't fly.

"As for realism, i have to ask you back: what does that mean? If the standard is, does he throw his back out if he hurls the hammer a little too hard… probably not. He’s a god. He’s incredibly strong. He can fly. He tosses lightning bolts. There’s nothing realistic about any of that. But he also bleeds. He struggles. Life kicks him where it hurts the most. Dramatically speaking, the powers and Asgard are gravy. The meat — and what makes it a Marvel movie — is the character."

http://screencrave.com/2009-06-01/writers-say-thor-has-godly-powers-but-still-just-a-man/


Until we see otherwise, i'm inclinded to think he will fly.

sabetoonth
06-15-2010, 01:49 PM
and it will be :awesome:

spider-neil
06-15-2010, 04:14 PM
if the helmet doesn't show up in this movie I'll want to know why.

* it doesn't obscure thor's face in any way like for example; spidey's mask, judge dreed's mas, robocop's mask, so you can't use the excuse the audience wont be able to see him emote.

* it's one of the most distinctive things about thor's outfit, like the red cape, so you can't use the excuse its not a necessity, is his cape a necessity?

Vartha
06-15-2010, 09:19 PM
Neil I don't think they'll cut the Helmet from the film. Chris said he had, one Elba said he had one, I'm sure everyone (Asgardians) has a helmet but only wears it while in major battle.

Webhead2006
06-15-2010, 11:15 PM
yea we already knows he has it in the film. we just dont know what scenes and for how long yet. Like i said in other thread they probably just didnt want to reveal images of it just yet and so the images we have seen so far reflect what marvel wants out presently. Heck even jaime i think has stated marvel is being pretty quiet on what is coming out and when/where.

spider-neil
06-16-2010, 01:15 AM
Neil I don't think they'll cut the Helmet from the film. Chris said he had, one Elba said he had one, I'm sure everyone (Asgardians) has a helmet but only wears it while in major battle.

I'm worried because there is a picture of thor IN BATTLE, sans helmet.

Webhead2006
06-16-2010, 01:24 AM
well the logical thing is it could have been knocked off in the fight for all we know.

Manowar
06-16-2010, 09:17 AM
He will have a helmey in some scene. But mostl of the time will probably be without it which is a good thing really. Why?

- Helmet Hair
- better looking with no helmet. Ladies will prefer that
- Unless it's on tight, the helmet will move too much during combat since i don't think it has a strap.
- Even though his face isn't covered like spideys, you would still see less emotions/facial features with helmet on, especially features with eyebrows etc. Chris gives good face when acting, Star Trek great example.
- I feel that he should really only wear his helmet if there are any "formal" scenes. Being summoned by Odin and stuff.

TheCorpulent1
06-16-2010, 09:21 AM
The more helmet, the better, I say. That winged helmet is the most recognizable aspect of Thor's iconography. Hell, at this point, if you asked people which god is best known for his winged helmet, you'd probably get "Thor" as often as "Hermes," and that's saying somethnig when you consider how much more widely known the Graeco-Roman pantheon is.

RogueDK
06-16-2010, 09:25 AM
I'm worried because there is a picture of thor IN BATTLE, sans helmet.
Me too.

I want to see Thor take down a frost giant with helmet intact, kick the s*** out of the Destroyer with helmet intact...and it better be a cool looking helmet at that. He just looks so naked without it.

Hell, if he doesn't scream at least once: "For Odin, For Asgard", I'm going to be really pis**d. :cmad:

These are the little things that sum up the awesomness of the character.

Manowar
06-16-2010, 09:34 AM
The more helmet, the better, I say. That winged helmet is the most recognizable aspect of Thor's iconography. Hell, at this point, if you asked people which god is best known for his winged helmet, you'd probably get "Thor" as often as "Hermes," and that's saying somethnig when you consider how much more widely known the Graeco-Roman pantheon is.

I totally agree about the Iconograophy and Thor looks awesome in the comics and on posters and statues with the helmet, but i'm not sure if it would transfer well into the movies and battle scenes. If they were to do side by side footage of battle scene with and without helmet, i think the without will look better and draw viewers in more.

Did you notice that neither LotR's Aragon or Baromir wore helmets even during battle scenes. There was a reason i'm sure.

roach
06-16-2010, 09:52 AM
I thought reports have said he had the helmet

Manowar
06-16-2010, 10:07 AM
I thought reports have said he had the helmet

At some point in the movie yes, he will be wearing a helmet.

Webhead2006
06-16-2010, 10:39 AM
yea we just havent see it yet and for all we know the still released before could have just been a promo shot and not from the movie. Then the scene from the sif thing is just one scene out of the film. Which the film is like 2hrs or so so he will probably have helmet for good majority of time.

BoredGuy
06-16-2010, 12:17 PM
I bet they'll have him wear the helmet twice in the movie:

1. beginning: major battle with frost giants/dark elves

2. end: climactic battle with the Destroyer


IMO he should only wear it during battle, I imagine most warriors took their helmets off during down time...

The_Mighty_Thor
06-16-2010, 12:34 PM
He will have a helmey in some scene. But mostl of the time will probably be without it which is a good thing really.

Umm, No, no it's not!


Why?

- Helmet Hair

Right, cause they shoot movies with one nonstop take!


- better looking with no helmet. Ladies will prefer that

Ehh, who cares. Of course his helmet will be off in several scenes but it needs to be on plenty too. It's just not Thor without it!


- Unless it's on tight, the helmet will move too much during combat since i don't think it has a strap.

I'm sure they can make a snug fitting helmet and if they need to they can strap it on in fight scenes and digitally remove the straps later the same way they remove the wire harness from most stunt scenes!

- Even though his face isn't covered like spideys, you would still see less emotions/facial features with helmet on, especially features with eyebrows etc. Chris gives good face when acting, Star Trek great example.

Like you said, it doesn't cover his face, it won't hide his emoting!

- I feel that he should really only wear his helmet if there are any "formal" scenes. Being summoned by Odin and stuff.

It's a battle helmet, it should be worn to battle. I don't care if he doesn't wear it during conversations but still why carry it around when you can wear it?

Kryptonian Warrior
06-16-2010, 01:32 PM
The more helmet, the better, I say. That winged helmet is the most recognizable aspect of Thor's iconography. Hell, at this point, if you asked people which god is best known for his winged helmet, you'd probably get "Thor" as often as "Hermes," and that's saying somethnig when you consider how much more widely known the Graeco-Roman pantheon is.
I don't know why, but this statement immediately made me think of Spaceballs where Dark Helmet says..."I bet she gives great helmet" :oldrazz:

Tony Stark
06-16-2010, 01:53 PM
I think it makes sense if the helmet is something he only wears in battle. However if there is no helmet, I hope people don't freak. The outfit is pretty faithful to the comics, and while I'd like to see the helmet too, I'm more concerned that the movie will be good and well received by the public, so we get sequels and an Avengers movie.

TheCorpulent1
06-16-2010, 03:49 PM
I'm not gonna lie, I will be mightily disappointed if there's no helmet whatsoever. We've had interviews where people mention helmet action, but it's always possible they could be wrong or the helmet scenes could be edited out or something. The helmet is part of what makes Thor instantly recognizable, though, so I really hope it's there for at least a few scenes. Helmet, discs, long blonde hair, hammer, cape--those are my five main essentials for Thor.

Gamma Burst
06-16-2010, 06:44 PM
The more helmet, the better, I say. That winged helmet is the most recognizable aspect of Thor's iconography. Hell, at this point, if you asked people which god is best known for his winged helmet, you'd probably get "Thor" as often as "Hermes," and that's saying somethnig when you consider how much more widely known the Graeco-Roman pantheon is.

I'd say his Hammer is his most recognizable feature.:word:

Webhead2006
06-16-2010, 08:54 PM
yea i am sure there will be a good couple of scenes with him wearing the helmet. hopefully marvel will release an image of it soon to put this debate to rest.

Spider-Vader
06-16-2010, 10:12 PM
No helmet would suck. But I wouldn't be horribly disappointed. They adapted the rest of the modern costume pretty well. I'm good.

afan
06-17-2010, 07:57 AM
Calm down folks.......Of course he will wear his helmet.......just not all the time.

We see Heimdall( I believe )in the ET video wearing a glorious helmet......indicating a norm for Asgardian head gear.

Tony Stark
06-17-2010, 10:44 AM
Yeah, I think people get a little anxious about things. To me the costume is very complimentary to the comics. It's not quite spot on, like Spider-man or Iron Man, but it's pretty darn close. Thor does have a basic look that has followed him, although has recently changed a bit. It seems like they are trying to reflect both looks, but it's definitely a 616 look, not Ultimate.

thegameq
06-17-2010, 12:27 PM
It's probably safe to say that Thor will wear the helmet. However, it probably won't figure into the film or costume as prominently as most would like.

I don't know......I don't like thevibe I'm getting from this film.....

I don't feel good about this film the way I felt about IM, Spidey or TIH before they were released....ditto for Cap, although I get a better sense of things for Cap...

...I don't feel the confidence in this film like the others.

BoredGuy
06-17-2010, 12:48 PM
^^REALLY?!

I'm completely the opposite...
I couldn't be more pumped for this film, I trust the cast and crew completely...

while my boy, Cap, has me worried from time to time. I guess I'm mainly still unsure about Johnston...

TheCorpulent1
06-17-2010, 01:06 PM
I'm a little wary of the look the film will take. I'd really prefer to see the helmet for a majority of the movie and some other stuff. But I think the story and the acting will be great, and those are the really important things. I can forgive some costume nitpicks if the movie as a whole is really good, which I think it will be.

Bad Superman
06-17-2010, 01:21 PM
I'm a little wary of the look the film will take. I'd really prefer to see the helmet for a majority of the movie and some other stuff. But I think the story and the acting will be great, and those are the really important things. I can forgive some costume nitpicks if the movie as a whole is really good, which I think it will be.

Me too.

thegameq
06-17-2010, 01:34 PM
I had a lot of enthusiasm for Thor when I heard the initial direction they wanted to take; LOTR/Gladiator-esque. It was easy to see such a vision and get a grasp of what they were trying to do. It just made sense. Especially after the reception the Ages of Thunder books received, etc.

When Branagh was hired, again, I understood--or so I thought, what Marvel was aiming for--again LOTR/Gladiator-esque, Excalibur, etc...but like others, Branagh still kinda came out of left field....

Then comes techno-viking and the costume......

Let's face it, when it comes to these films there is every right to be skeptical, but the Marvel Studios films and Spider-man have been damn near spot on, give or take an item or two.

I remember following those films and as time went on you immediately got a sense for what they were doing and that they were following the comics as close as can be rather than retreating from it. It was comforting, fun and exciting.

In the back of my mind, I knew the whole god aspect of Thor might be a burdern to Marvel and they might retreat from it, rather than just going the Greek gods route and just letting it be.

The on screen potential for Thor is incredible (just the spectacle and majesty of what Thor could and should be), but I have a bad feeling we're not getting that at all.

..I don't know...am I expecting to much from Marvel since they're doing these films themselves?

GhostPoet
06-17-2010, 01:40 PM
I'm a little wary of the look the film will take. I'd really prefer to see the helmet for a majority of the movie and some other stuff. But I think the story and the acting will be great, and those are the really important things. I can forgive some costume nitpicks if the movie as a whole is really good, which I think it will be.

I think most of us would...but honestly, it would make more sense from a non-fan viewpoint to not have him wear it all the time. Like if he's hanging around talking in a non-battle enviroment there would be little use for him to wear it. Maybe hold it at his side. But I don't think he would wear it indoors.

Chewy
06-17-2010, 02:18 PM
The first picture comes out, and people rave about the look. Then the concept art comes out, which is exactly the same as the first pic, except that it shows he is wearing black pants instead of chainmail leggings, and some people here complain about how Marvel is "shying away from Thor's godhood"

I don't really see the connection

TheCorpulent1
06-17-2010, 02:24 PM
Well, I mean, black pants are just so mortal, aren't they?

Surfer
06-17-2010, 04:38 PM
I agree that the bottom half of his costume would not have been my first choice. However, I don't think the pants would have been such a problem if they had extended the look from his torso into the bottom half of his costume. They could have done this by using a piece of clothing draped between his legs with the same style. I did a manip a couple of weeks back, by combining pieces of other peoples manips of the concept art and then added a few small changes myself. I posted this already in the Thor Manips thread, but some people may not have seen it, and I believe it helps to illustrate my point, so I am posting it again here.

Surfer



http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8825/thormanip.png

Webhead2006
06-17-2010, 09:10 PM
yea i know just cause we havent seen it yet folks are flipping out and think it wont be there.

CLARKY
06-18-2010, 03:51 AM
I do not like the suit at all. I thought Thor was an easy one :( What is this new tech armor? For Thor a tech armor? Looks like a body armor for Batman. Boots for guys on moto. I don't like it at all. I do not get it either. :up:
Suddenly, I wonder if this film will interest me enough to go to the cinema. I though with this director Thor would be safe, and to me the suit was a no brainer. I don't get it.
As Mondragon said, I will have thought something like this instead, duh:
To much in this direction...
http://www.jejamescycles.co.uk/product-images-large/race-face-rally-dh-armour-jacket-42648.jpg
And not enough in this one...
http://lazyprince.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/eomer.jpg

Webhead2006
06-18-2010, 11:31 AM
clarky i dont see how it looks like tech armor that much. its pretty much mixing modern copiol design and some influnces of classic 616 look too.

thegameq
06-18-2010, 03:27 PM
Come on guys. The big question is what the hell happened to Thor's costume? Thor's costume had to be one of the easiest to do on film. The blue print has been seen in various sword and sandal/sorcery films.

Jesus Christ!! Are you trying to tell me Thor's look is complicated or difficult to do?! Come on man...

The dude has biker boots......

Is Thor's costume really that difficult to do.....honestly?....

...huge raised red cape over his shoulders or behind his shoulders


....some kind of medievel looking black chest armor or the Copiel design--it's right there....

....bare arms or chainmail

.....same black armor or loin cloth look etc

.....some sort of animal skin boots--come on do I need to say no fur....

it's absolutely stunning how some costume designers can nail the look and others.....Thor is a no brainer.....

Thor should look like a bad ass, lightning wielding, royal majestic, warrior smash up from LOTR, Gladiator, 300, Excalibur..

What grates on my nerves is that the costume is blatantly wrong and bad. It's not like the spider-man costume or Iron Man--it just totally misses the mark.

Can any of you honestly see this Thor battling frost Giants high atop a mountain or taking on giant mythical beasts and such--he would look so out of place.

....and did my eyes deceive me in the ET sneak peak? Was Thor fighting army soldiers?!? What the hell? Let me guess, he's trying to recover his Hammer from the military, for without it he posesses no power.

I'm guessing the military is holding his hammer in some Area 21 type place and experimenting on it. I'm guessing no one believes he's Thor, etc. etc.

Why do I smell Ultimate Thor?

End Rant.

RogueDK
06-18-2010, 03:41 PM
Why do I smell Ultimate Thor?


Because it's cooking up for Avengers. I will be the first to admit being wrong but looking at what he'll wear in Thor, it's coming. :doh:

Good reason to be concerned.

TheCorpulent1
06-18-2010, 03:51 PM
Sure, if you're looking for reasons to hate on the movie. The costume looks fine. It's not perfect but it certainly doesn't look as bad as the Ultimate costume, either. The Coipel look is preserved with the top part in exactly the way we all said it should be: same basic look but with more detail (the layered armor) to pop on-screen.

As far as I'm concerned, it's a mix of the Coipel look and Kirby's wacky sci fi-ish take on Thor and Asgard from early in his run and the Tales of Asgard stuff. Look at some of Kirby's art for the Asgardians and tell me you can't see any similarities to the layered armor on Thor's torso. Is it ideal? Maybe not for everyone. I would've liked to see a bit more real world viking-ness to Thor myself. But it's certianly not the dealbreaker some people are making it out to be; it still looks good as a design and will most likely look even better on-screen.

Also, the idea that you're mad because Thor is powerless without his hammer is just patently ridiculous. This is his origin story, wherein Odin banishes him from Asgard and--here it comes--strips him of his power. He learns humility from living as a mortal. It's not the Don Blake story of the comics adapted verbatim, but it's the same basic principle. Yes, he will have to recover his hammer to regain his divine powers, but after that I expect the powers to be a part of him again. If they're still tied 100% to the hammer, well, I'll be the first in line to cry foul, but we have absolutely nothing even implying that that will be the case at this point.

RogueDK
06-18-2010, 04:00 PM
What name is he supposed to use when banished and stripped of his juice? Sigurd Jarlson, Jake Olsen :huh:? I'm expecting Marvel to give fans some kind of wink to one of those names....

cryptic name
06-18-2010, 04:12 PM
Come on guys. The big question is what the hell happened to Thor's costume? Thor's costume had to be one of the easiest to do on film. The blue print has been seen in various sword and sandal/sorcery films.

Jesus Christ!! Are you trying to tell me Thor's look is complicated or difficult to do?! Come on man...

The dude has biker boots......

Is Thor's costume really that difficult to do.....honestly?....

...huge raised red cape over his shoulders or behind his shoulders


....some kind of medievel looking black chest armor or the Copiel design--it's right there....

....bare arms or chainmail

.....same black armor or loin cloth look etc

.....some sort of animal skin boots--come on do I need to say no fur....

it's absolutely stunning how some costume designers can nail the look and others.....Thor is a no brainer.....

Thor should look like a bad ass, lightning wielding, royal majestic, warrior smash up from LOTR, Gladiator, 300, Excalibur..

What grates on my nerves is that the costume is blatantly wrong and bad. It's not like the spider-man costume or Iron Man--it just totally misses the mark.

Can any of you honestly see this Thor battling frost Giants high atop a mountain or taking on giant mythical beasts and such--he would look so out of place.

....and did my eyes deceive me in the ET sneak peak? Was Thor fighting army soldiers?!? What the hell? Let me guess, he's trying to recover his Hammer from the military, for without it he posesses no power.

I'm guessing the military is holding his hammer in some Area 21 type place and experimenting on it. I'm guessing no one believes he's Thor, etc. etc.

Why do I smell Ultimate Thor?

End Rant.

what grates my nerves is that the costume actually meets 90% of the traits you describe...and yet you rage against it like it in no way looks like Thor. I mean, big red raised cape: check. Black armor tunic: check. scalemale sleeves: check.

i understand a lot of people were underwhelmed by the concept art, but can none of you see that the design and textures look so much better in live action with the picture we have of Chris? i can't for the life of me understand how anyone could not be happy with how cool Thor looks in costume. who the **** really cares about his boots?

TheCorpulent1
06-18-2010, 04:18 PM
What name is he supposed to use when banished and stripped of his juice? Sigurd Jarlson, Jake Olsen :huh:? I'm expecting Marvel to give fans some kind of wink to one of those names....
Possibly none. He might just continue to go by "Thor" for simplicity's sake. Maybe Jane will make up a name that happens to be similar to one of his secret ID names as an in-joke, but I'm thinking he'll probably just be Thor as a mortal.

bunk
06-18-2010, 05:10 PM
This isn't LotR. I would not expect the universe to have that kind of sword and sorcery look or feel. I could see how that might be tempting, but if you look at the comics it's actually the wrong direction to go in.

The_Mighty_Thor
06-18-2010, 05:21 PM
I wanted a less plasticy top but overall it's not bad. Why would gods still be wearing 500 hundred year old clothes? My only real concern is that the rubber arms might ruin some of the action with immobility. Ya think film makers would have learned their lesson after the first Batman movie!

Gamma Burst
06-18-2010, 07:22 PM
This isn't LotR. I would not expect the universe to have that kind of sword and sorcery look or feel. I could see how that might be tempting, but if you look at the comics it's actually the wrong direction to go in.

Gotta agree with you here,mate.

Vartha
06-18-2010, 09:48 PM
I'm worried because there is a picture of thor IN BATTLE, sans helmet.

Look like a helmet right here Neil

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c331/Vartha1/Thor/movie%20images/helmetmaybe.jpg

al35077
06-18-2010, 10:24 PM
I think the reason they chose this for his costume is just because thats what he's wearing in the comics these days. ever since his resurection IIRC