Thor's costume

[yoshimura]

Has to be Ages of Thunder!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/JokerSoze/ThorAgesofThunder.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/3351186991_a57fa8bf08.jpg

or Coipel's take:

http://adrianjames.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/thor_8.jpg

http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04a/MarvelJuly08/THOR010.jpg

http://www.comicbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/thor7var.jpg

http://www.ifanboy.com/comics/marvel_comics/thor_ages_of_thunder_reign_of_blood/cover-large.jpg

http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01a/Thor_600_DellOttoVariant.jpg

http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10a/marveljan09/THOR600_COV.jpg

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I think Coipel's fits in better with the other Avenger while Ages of Thunder is a good fit for the solo movie.

[Canis Sapiens]

I'd go with the Ages of Thunder one. Perfect for an origin story in ancient times or in Asgard.

But I agree with you, maybe it isn't the better one for Thor to use in modern times. Imagine him wearing that in New York...

Maybe the government guys in the Avengers could give him a new, more modern costume. This plot point could even serve a humorous scene in the movie.

Let's face it, a guy dressed in viking clothes in modern times it's a hard sell for the general public. :oldrazz:

[Marz69]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/3351186991_a57fa8bf08.jpg


I think this fits in better. I think the colors shouldn't be too bright, like Superman's. I like this burgandy better than bright red. And with the actor now having time to work out, there's no need to use long sleeves to pad undefined arms. :hehe:

[JackIvyGB]

I think definitely the "Ages of Thunder" costume for his own film and any time he has scenes in asgard, visiting his father or whatever. Because the colors are toned down, it actual looks like some sort of midevil, Lord of the Rings type garb, which is fitting. In this form, even the helmet doesn't look ridiculous.

For his time with the Avengers, I would do something that is a solid mix of the Ultimate suit and his current look (Coipel).
No helmet on the avengers suit. I think it'd be really cool for the audience to know he's a "God" from seeing his solo movie, but when Fury recruits him for the Avengers, no one believes him. Fury wants the public to be comfortable with their new heroes, so he gives Thor a more "modern superhero" type suit, which Thor doesn't quite understand the need for, but plays along, not wanting to be "off-putting to the people of mid-gard." He puts on the costume and Fury grins and asks "There, that's not so bad is it?" Thor goes to put on the helmet and Fury loses the grin, saying "No helmet Goldilocks." Thor looks puzzled as Fury walks away, and places his helmet next to the rest of his asgardian wardrobe.

I think it'd be cool to have a scene though where the Ultimates get into a battle and Thor isn't there, but when he hears about it, he doesn't have time to change into his "avengers suit" and doesn't have his helmet, but still has his cape. He gets there, they fight whoever, and as they stand stand around after the battle, helping and such, a kid runs up to thor and says "whoa...I like your cape." Thor grins, saying "thank you, young one." Then maybe next time Fury sees Thor, he has the cape on and Fury starts to say "I thought I told you-" but Thor cuts him off and says "The cape stays, Fury."

I don't know, just kind of thinking outloud...or online anyway.

I think the visual design of the top half of the Coipel suit, minus the cape, with some of the textures and the bottom half of the Ultimates suit would work pretty well, at least as a starting point. I think I'll do some sketches...

PS
I'd go with the 616 hammer. Perosnally, if I were in charge, the whole Avengers movie would be ultimates based, but I understand the importance of the 616, being the original universe, and I see no reason that the original hammer shouldn't be used, especially with the thor film set in asgard. When he comes to join the avengers, I see no reason to replace it either, as no one could make a new better hammer, so keep it. I do think that marvel films should be sort of the meeting place for ultimate and original universes, taking elements from both of marvel's core universes where they are appropriate.

[marcvader]

I don't think you need to explain anything. He's Thor the god of thunder and he doesn't have to do what any mortal tells him especially the way he dresses which is what he has worn all his life. Especially in the first flick, I doubt he mingles with anyone in the public anyways. The guy is larger than life and from somewhere else, not some timetraveler that looks funny.

[Canis Sapiens]

Fury wants the public to be comfortable with their new heroes, so he gives Thor a more "modern superhero" type suit, which Thor doesn't quite understand the need for, but plays along, not wanting to be "off-putting to the people of mid-gard." He puts on the costume and Fury grins and asks "There, that's not so bad is it?" Thor goes to put on the helmet and Fury loses the grin, saying "No helmet Goldilocks." Thor looks puzzled as Fury walks away, and places his helmet next to the rest of his asgardian wardrobe.


That would be a pretty funny scene.

[marcvader]

It's also not Viking clothe by the way. Thor is an Asgardian if anything he is more akin with an alien. If the guy has gone into battle his entire life wearing what he does, however long that may be, and he is here to protect us you think people have the nerve to be offput by what he wears? It's like telling Superman to stop wearing his jammies and cape in public nevermind that your protecting us.

[JackIvyGB]

I don't think you need to explain anything. He's Thor the god of thunder and he doesn't have to do what any mortal tells him especially the way he dresses which is what he has worn all his life. Especially in the first flick, I doubt he mingles with anyone in the public anyways. The guy is larger than life and from somewhere else, not some timetraveler that looks funny.

But that's the point. To everyone else, he would look like a funny looking time traveler. Even the people who hired him (Shield, fury, avengers) wouldn't be quite sure of who he is. Thor is venturing here with the understanding that he will be assissting a team whose job it is to make the world a better place. You would think that even though he might not quite understand the habits and customs of our world, he'd make an effort to accomodate those he'd be helping. If he didn't, that's be like if I went to germany and decided I wasn't going to try and learn some german before I went, and when I got there, I still tried to keep speaking english to people who didn't know it.

Your right that he doesn't have to do what anyone tells him to do, but if he went around not listening to people, how would Fury convince him to join the Avengers in the first place? I think Thor would be smart enough to know that people would take to his presence alot easier if he appealed to them on their level. Especially if they end up using the Donald Blake persona to bridge the gap between Thor and humanity/asgard and midgard.

[Canis Sapiens]

It's also not Viking clothe by the way. Thor is an Asgardian if anything he is more akin with an alien. If the guy has gone into battle his entire life wearing what he does, however long that may be, and he is here to protect us you think people have the nerve to be offput by what he wears? It's like telling Superman to stop wearing his jammies and cape in public nevermind that your protecting us.

Don't get me wrong; I'm fine with any costume they decide to use. But I just think that you risk making your movie enter into cheesy/comedic territory when you have a protagonist dressed up as a person from ancient times walking in Times Square for example.

But what the hell do I know? Maybe Brannagh/Favreau (who may be the Avengers director, according to scoops) can make it work. I just can't see it, that's all. :cwink:

[Thor Odinson]

Go with the original (with a Ultimatish-like Beard) for his own movie and lose the beard and have a modern costume for Avengers.

[Marz69]

For his time with the Avengers, I would do something that is a solid mix of the Ultimate suit and his current look (Coipel).
No helmet on the avengers suit. I think it'd be really cool for the audience to know he's a "God" from seeing his solo movie, but when Fury recruits him for the Avengers, no one believes him. Fury wants the public to be comfortable with their new heroes, so he gives Thor a more "modern superhero" type suit, which Thor doesn't quite understand the need for, but plays along, not wanting to be "off-putting to the people of mid-gard." He puts on the costume and Fury grins and asks "There, that's not so bad is it?" Thor goes to put on the helmet and Fury loses the grin, saying "No helmet Goldilocks." Thor looks puzzled as Fury walks away, and places his helmet next to the rest of his asgardian wardrobe.

I think it'd be cool to have a scene though where the Ultimates get into a battle and Thor isn't there, but when he hears about it, he doesn't have time to change into his "avengers suit" and doesn't have his helmet, but still has his cape. He gets there, they fight whoever, and as they stand stand around after the battle, helping and such, a kid runs up to thor and says "whoa...I like your cape." Thor grins, saying "thank you, young one." Then maybe next time Fury sees Thor, he has the cape on and Fury starts to say "I thought I told you-" but Thor cuts him off and says "The cape stays, Fury."

I don't know, just kind of thinking outloud...or online anyway.
I actually think if done right, this could be a hilarious scene. And Thor doesn't have to come across as "following orders dutifully" but more like "wt-f is up with these fashion police idiots". But he does it to fit into this strange world, but in the end he wears his cape. To hell with Nick. :oldrazz:

[Marz69]

Don't get me wrong; I'm fine with any costume they decide to use. But I just think that you risk making your movie enter into cheesy/comedic territory when you have a protagonist dressed up as a person from ancient times walking in Times Square for example.

But what the hell do I know? Maybe Brannagh/Favreau (who may be the Avengers director, according to scoops) can make it work. I just can't see it, that's all. :cwink:
Now we're getting into the 2nd persona. Superman has Kent. If Thor is going to go to a broadway play with his buddies in NYC, then he'll have to ditch the cape & wear a pair of jeans. Enter... Dr Blake or whatever his name is (same actor).

[JackIvyGB]

I actually think if done right, this could be a hilarious scene. And Thor doesn't have to come across as "following orders dutifully" but more like "wt-f is up with these fashion police idiots". But he does it to fit into this strange world, but in the end he wears his cape. To hell with Nick. :oldrazz:


EXACTLY.:woot:

[Daredevil_2003]

Assuming his solo movie is set in Asgard, this:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/3351186991_a57fa8bf08.jpg

For Avengers, this:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3084/bioultimatethor.jpg

[Keyser Soze]

My personal favourite is the current comics look designed by Coipiel. But I wouldn't complain about something akin to his Ages of Thunder attire either.

But whatever Thor wears in his solo film, he should carry over to The Avengers. You're not gonna ask Iron Man to change into a plain silver suit for Avengers, you're not gonna put Captain America in plain army fatigues for Avengers, and you're not gonna remove Thor's Viking attire for Avengers either.

[marcvader]

That's what I'm saying Keyser.

[Canis Sapiens]

My personal favourite is the current comics look designed by Coipiel. But I wouldn't complain about something akin to his Ages of Thunder attire either.

But whatever Thor wears in his solo film, he should carry over to The Avengers. You're not gonna ask Iron Man to change into a plain silver suit for Avengers, you're not gonna put Captain America in plain army fatigues for Avengers, and you're not gonna remove Thor's Viking attire for Avengers either.

I don't mind if Thor wears the same costume in his solo movie and in The Avengers movie, and I don't mind if he doesn't either.

That said, I think the Iron Man/Captain America comparison is a little off. It's not unusual to see superhero costumes changing from sequel to sequel. It's not that big deal. Batman, The X-Men, Spider-Man, The Punisher, The Fantastic Four... all of them had their costumes altered for some reason (that reason being in the script or not).

That will be more evident if they go with The Ultimates route: Cap had his WWII uniform changed to a modernized version when he joined the team. I think they can do the same with Thor, it wouldn't be that absurd. And the costume change doesn't need to be something imposed by Shield or whatever. Thor himself could modernize his clothes, he's kind of a vain guy sometimes, I could accept that. :word:

[Marz69]

And the costume change doesn't need to be something imposed by Shield or whatever. Thor himself could modernize his clothes, he's kind of a vain guy sometimes, I could accept that. :word:
I can see it now, Thor wears Coipel in Thor movie. He comes to earth, watches the movie 300, sees the ladies swooning over a half naked Gerard Butler... He stands up, rips the sleaves off, even rips the leggins off. A 300 version of ages of thunder. Stares at himself in the mirror

"I am the fairest of them All!"

He walks toward the door, Nick spots him. "What the mother f'n bleep are you wearing" (in his SLJ style of speech :word:)

Thor yanks at Nick's eye piece, slaps it back. "Thou shall not speak to thee in that way."

Then Thor walks out onto the street. A wind blows up his long shirt top, his butt & dr manhattan's exposed, women swoon... :woot:

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Juts having some fun here guys....

[Canis Sapiens]

But then the movie would be rated R. You know what that did for the Watchmen BO. :oldrazz::woot:

[cerealkiller182]

I dig Coipel's the most.

[Weadazoid]

I dig Coipel's the most.



I agree, go with a modern yet classic chain mail look. Something that looks like it was forged perfectly by gods and then the humans Viking Nordics ect ect tried to do thier best to emulate.

[Daredevil_2003]

I can see it now, Thor wears Coipel in Thor movie. He comes to earth, watches the movie 300, sees the ladies swooning over a half naked Gerard Butler... He stands up, rips the sleaves off, even rips the leggins off. A 300 version of ages of thunder. Stares at himself in the mirror

"I am the fairest of them All!"

He walks toward the door, Nick spots him. "What the mother f'n bleep are you wearing" (in his SLJ style of speech :word:)

Thor yanks at Nick's eye piece, slaps it back. "Thou shall not speak to thee in that way."

Then Thor walks out onto the street. A wind blows up his long shirt top, his butt & dr manhattan's exposed, women swoon... :woot:

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Juts having some fun here guys....:funny: That's a funny.

[marcvader]

I like the Coipel look the problem with it though is that chainmail isnt form fitting and it would take away from the actors, hopefully Skars, ability to show off his new physique. Alot of Thor's raw power is conveyed through his arms.

[Canis Sapiens]

I agree. That's one of the reasons I prefer the Ages of Thunder one.

[yoshimura]

Gah! It's not Ages of Thunder; it's Ages of Asgard.

:D

And I'll add this:
http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/932/932995/thor-man-of-war-20081121061815265.jpg

[Canis Sapiens]

^

That is fantastic.

I'd lose the gloves, though.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd prefer the current costume for both Thor's movie and the Avengers movie. Personally, I don't want to see a hint of anything Ultimate anywhere in Thor's movies, since I hate Ultimate Thor. Plus, the Coipel costume allows the costume designers to bulk Thor up a bit more than any normal human being could manage to be, which would add to the godly, otherworldly image.

[marcvader]

I like Coipel's but want the guns bare.

[TheCorpulent1]

The bare guns are nice to think about, but you'd have to work whomever they cast out to insane levels to make his arms look hardcore enough to be considered godly.

[marcvader]

His godly feats would go a long ways in displaying his godliness and it would be a nice nod to older Marvel U fans.

[TheCorpulent1]

True. I'm not against bare arms, really, but I just think the mail could allow the actor to look more imposing. I'd be happy either way.

[Nivek]

I love the current comics costume. It should be fairly easy to Translate.

[yoshimura]

Aright, I'm in agreement for Coipel's look.

[Agent 194]

I'd love to have his original look. And for them to make it work. That's what I keep seeing when I think of the movie. The classic look. But then again, I'm the guy who wanted the original Punisher costume and wanted them to make it work too. Up to the movie people to do it....I just like the original vision I grew up with.

[marcvader]

I'm cool with an updated look just not the ultimate one which only inspires a big yawn from me. It has to be one of the most unimaginative designs I've seen for someone who IS a god.

[TheCorpulent1]

The only part of the Ultimate costume I like is the glowing circles. But those wouldn't really work well with the 616 Thor's look. They could be cool on Beta Ray Bill if we ever get to see him in a sequel (doubtful, I know, since Bill's sort of a silly concept even by comic standards, even though he is a great character).

[Daredevil_2003]

I'm cool with an updated look just not the ultimate one which only inspires a big yawn from me. It has to be one of the most unimaginative designs I've seen for someone who IS a god.If you stick a helmet on him and give him a cape, it's basically the same thing as the original 616...

[marcvader]

I hate the brown combat boots as well.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm not a fan of the big girdle-like belt, myself.

[marcvader]

That too. There's just so many things wrong with it that I'd puke if I saw it on the big screen.

[Daredevil_2003]

Meh. I still like it.

[Balthus Dire]

We sould get a poll going.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I like the Ages costume for the movies, all of them. No ultimate crap in Avengers!!!!! I prefer the bare arms but don't hate the look of the new costume. It depends on the actor, if he has big enough arms then go bare armed but if not then the armor can make him look bigger. Plus it could be padded slightly.

[TheCorpulent1]

I wonder if they could make a full suit of armor reminiscent of the Simonson armor work. Not for a regular costume, but maybe for a big, climactic battle or if Thor fights the Destroyer or something. That would be sweet.

[Balthus Dire]

I would love to see him in his new current duds when he's going into battle, and maybe the sleeveless look when he's just hanging out in Asgard.

[louiebling$]

Coipel's version is my Favorite to date!

[tamron]

I'm all for the Ages of Thunder look. I really, really like that.

[Weadazoid]

I am kind of thinking go with Coipel style Chain Mail for the Chest and torso, maybe Upper Shoulders too, add to that the Circular deals, made of solid metal.

A kind of Hybrid ditch the idea of the leatherish toros and chest cover.

[nogap87]

Either Coipel's chain mail look or his ultimate alliance 2 look.

http://i35.tinypic.com/2u7btiu.jpg

Whichever makes the actor's arms more imposing and looks good with the other (movie) Avengers.

[yoshimura]

We sould get a poll going.

I second this.


And it's Ages of Asgard, not Thunder. :woot:

[yoshimura]

Either Coipel's chain mail look or his ultimate alliance 2 look.

http://i35.tinypic.com/2u7btiu.jpg

Whichever makes the actor's arms more imposing and looks good with the other (movie) Avengers.

Awesome!

[Ahura Mazda]

I think it will depend on the physique of the actor. Because as good as the Age of Thunder Costume is, it requires the actor to be considerably buff where as Coipel's costume hides the arms.

[Lobo]

I like Coipel's design for the movie.

[TheCorpulent1]

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of the bare-armed Ages of Thunder look for the younger Thor of his own movie and the chainmailed current design for the Avengers movie.

[MarvelFanClub]

heshould look like the marvel select figure costume

[bunk]

I wouldn't mind if they went with a LotR type of look. Just incorporate his colors and helmet. In fact, I wouldn't have a problem with WETA handling all of the sfx on this show.

[Doctor Doom]

http://i35.tinypic.com/2u7btiu.jpg


That would be perfect for me. I would change the hammer a little however.

[Balthus Dire]

I absolutely love his current costume, so that one gets my vote.

[mjbull23]

I would like something along these lines
http://www.comicbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/thor06.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

I wouldn't mind if they went with a LotR type of look. Just incorporate his colors and helmet. In fact, I wouldn't have a problem with WETA handling all of the sfx on this show.
I would. Weta's great and all, but we've already seen their take on high fantasy. Put them on something with so similar a subject and we'll inevitably see LotR-derivative designs and stuff. That's just what happens when you get the same people working on such similar subjects.

Personally, I'd love to see them find a Swedish or Norwegian set of designers to work on the movie. Maybe they could channel their ancestors a bit. ;)

[nogap87]

That would be perfect for me. I would change the hammer a little however.

For some reason I love that hammer. It's a bit fancy but Looks like it would give the Hulk a good smacking.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd just get rid of the little thingy separating the hammerhead from the hilt. Make the hilt come up directly into the head and it'd be good.

[nogap87]

I can live with or without the "thingy" (I have no idea what it is). I just want it to look relatively simple yet fitting for someone with Thor's prowess.

[TheCorpulent1]

Mjolnir looks weaker with it. Like if Thor hit someone hard enough, it'd just snap off right there. It looks sturdier with the hilt going straight up into the underside of the head.

[nogap87]

I see where you're coming from. It did occur to me that it looked fragile but than I remembered it's made out of magic metal and all that jazz. That said, I agree that it would look a lot sturdier if the hilt was connected directly to the hammer.

[Daredevil_2003]

What do you guys think about ultimate Mjolnir? The costume is obviously hated. I like it but I dont care about it that much, I'd rather have the Ages of Asgard/Thunder whatever one...but I really like the hammer in ultimates. Little too shiny for aforementioned costume, but the design is neat.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I can live with or without the "thingy" (I have no idea what it is). .

The thingy actually looks like Thors Hammer as it appears in a lot Norse artifacts.

It does look like a weak spot in that design but it's an enchanted hammer!

[The_Mighty_Thor]

What do you guys think about ultimate Mjolnir? The costume is obviously hated. I like it but I dont care about it that much, I'd rather have the Ages of Asgard/Thunder whatever one...but I really like the hammer in ultimates. Little too shiny for aforementioned costume, but the design is neat.

I hate all things ultimate, especially that hammer!:cmad:

[Daredevil_2003]

I still don't get the bile towards all things ultimate. I love both. Although thanks to Jeph Loeb the ultimate universe has practically been ruined, for me. *shrug*

[Canis Sapiens]

I still don't get the bile towards all things ultimate. I love both. Although thanks to Jeph Loeb the ultimate universe has practically been ruined, for me. *shrug*

Yeah, what was that guy's thinking?

[TheCorpulent1]

I still don't get the bile towards all things ultimate. I love both. Although thanks to Jeph Loeb the ultimate universe has practically been ruined, for me. *shrug*
Ultimate Thor wasn't terrible, he just pales in comparison to the 616 version. His costume and hammer, however, were visually pretty terrible. The hammer's way too oversized and it looks more like an axe than a hammer. The further it stays away from the movie, the better.

[afan]

http://i35.tinypic.com/2u7btiu.jpg

Very nice............however..........the helmet's wings are a bit literal for me.

Tho' I am a staunch advocate of limited mucking with classic elements of super-hero costumes I am not sure they translate very well as pictured here. Perhaps incorporating them more as part of the helmet, i.e. metallic, would be appropriate.
Lose the buckles on the boots and make the cape a bit wider, and IMO we are talking perfection.

[Spider-Fan83]

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7318/popup2g.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=popup2g.jpg)

[Doctor Doom]

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7318/popup2g.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=popup2g.jpg)

I like where the idea's going, but they're either too little of what I want or too sharp...

[Lobo]

I think the one in the middle on the left, would be great headgear for Sif

http://i44.tinypic.com/25ul5qd.jpg

[Agent 194]

I still don't get the bile towards all things ultimate. I love both. Although thanks to Jeph Loeb the ultimate universe has practically been ruined, for me. *shrug*


Well, to be perfectly honest...I've never read a single issue of anything "Ultimate". I 'd probably enjoy some of it. It's just that books I've leafed through and notice the things they've changed just seem like and assault on my childhood. I don't mean to sound like a non progressive,old fogie. I just look at things and say...why are the FF so skinny and young? They did what to Nick Fury? (and I have no problem with Samuel L). All I'm saying is I'd love it to be the Thor I grew up with. Crazy pseudo, Shakespearean King's English language, rainbowbridge, and hyper dramatic Thor acting like the very universe was at stake all the time. For all I know he still does all those things in another realm.

[marcvader]

Yeah, it sucks doesn't it. You have something that worked and generally look a certain way for over 40 years and one person changes it completely and its like the old stuff never happened. I understand translation and evolution but Hitch took it too far with some of his designs.

[bunk]

I would. Weta's great and all, but we've already seen their take on high fantasy. Put them on something with so similar a subject and we'll inevitably see LotR-derivative designs and stuff. That's just what happens when you get the same people working on such similar subjects.


That's what I would hope. It could serve as visual anchor for the mainstream audience who need a reason to take Thor seriously. As long as the designers make a conscious effort to maintain elements of Thor's comic look, it would be fine.

[Canis Sapiens]

Yeah, it sucks doesn't it. You have something that worked and generally look a certain way for over 40 years and one person changes it completely and its like the old stuff never happened. I understand translation and evolution but Hitch took it too far with some of his designs.

I look at it this way: now we have TWO Thors in TWO different universes. I don't think the Ultimate-verse changed/raped/invalidated all the old stuff I used to read in the 80s. To be honest, I found the Ultimates a very refreshing and amusing take on the Avengers. It has a sense of humor that I love. Cap is a real badass and Thor is charming and witty and yeah, a little radical in his beliefs. But that doesn't mean that all that 616 stuff didn't happened. I see it as two different - and great - interpretations.

What I really hate, tough, is the Ultimates vol.3. Loeb and Madureira managed to do something that's offensive (not because of canon disrespect, but because of lack of quality) both to 616 and Ultimate fans.

Bottom line: if you like 616, you can ignore Ultimate... and vice-versa. I like 'em both for different reasons, so it's win-win to me. :cwink:

[TheCorpulent1]

The only problem with that idea is when filmmakers want to completely disregard the 616 stuff and go with the Ultimate versions. It was a slap in the face to 616 fans that the very first DTV animated feature we got out of the Marvel/Lionsgate deal was a rehash of the Ultimates with the word "Avengers" tacked on where it had no business being. The Ultimates are not the Avengers. I can respect them as their own thing, but not if filmmakers start passing them off as the main versions of those characters. That's why I get antsy whenever I see Ultimate ideas being tossed around for the Thor movie, too.

[Canis Sapiens]

Yeah, I can understand that. It kind of sucks. And there's a lot of Ultimateverse influences in the latest Marvel movies (Spider-Man included). Sometimes I think it's less of an Ultimateverse influence than the fact that titles like The Ultimates were taylor-made for the movie medium. I have read somewhere that the vol 1 - 2 creative team actually treated the series as if they were making a movie, with a very cinematic feel. Maybe that's the reason the Marvel Studio guys are using so many stuff from the Ultimates in the Iron Man and Incredible Hulk movies. Less trouble to adapt it to another medium. Lazy bastards!

[marcvader]

Yeah, Canis I hear ya. I'm not going to lie and say I despise everything Ultimate cause I did enjoy it for what it is, like you say, another take on what we know. But Corp kind of hit what I was trying to get at way better than I could. The thing is I don't want people getting the wrong impression of Thor again when he is shown to the general audience. Remember Thor in the Incredible Hulk TV special, that was just atrocious. I don't want Thor being misrepresented again with the ultimate version this time.

[Canis Sapiens]

Yeah, you can't imagine how many jokes I had to hear from my friends back in school because of that TV Thor. :cmad:

I tell you, my teenage years were no picnic. :oldrazz:

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, I hear the script is great and Branagh is a Shakespeare connoisseur himself, so we should at least get better dialogue out of the Asgardians than we got from Thor in that terrible Hulk TV movie.

[Agent 194]

Well, I hear the script is great and Branagh is a Shakespeare connoisseur himself, so we should at least get better dialogue out of the Asgardians than we got from Thor in that terrible Hulk TV movie.


Yes, that is very affirming and positive news to hear. Those two bits there have me stoked.

And hey guys, don't get me wrong...every thing needs to re-invent itself and reinvigorate a franchise. I get that. Not everything can be Blondie and Dagwood where he looks and acts exactly the same for 60 yrs. I just prefer the original. Still a lot to mine from there in my opinion without reinventing it. A lot of the Spider-Man stories they've drawn from were around the time of Romita and Ross Andru. My two favorite SM artists. Check out some Andru if you never have. Talk about cinematic. His own colleagues said that of him. My childhood. My favorite.

[Daredevil_2003]

Well, to be perfectly honest...I've never read a single issue of anything "Ultimate". I 'd probably enjoy some of it. It's just that books I've leafed through and notice the things they've changed just seem like and assault on my childhood. I don't mean to sound like a non progressive,old fogie. I just look at things and say...why are the FF so skinny and young? They did what to Nick Fury? (and I have no problem with Samuel L). All I'm saying is I'd love it to be the Thor I grew up with. Crazy pseudo, Shakespearean King's English language, rainbowbridge, and hyper dramatic Thor acting like the very universe was at stake all the time. For all I know he still does all those things in another realm.Thor does, actually. Nick Fury's just a different skin color, IMO. Some people just hate it no matter what but I grew up with the 616 Marvel, too, as their was no ultimate Marvel in the 80's and 90's. :hehe: I still enjoy the Ultimate renditions. In case of the Avengers I actually prefer The Ultimates (Yes, I know, BLASPHEMY!!! :oldrazz:). The characters, for the most part, are still who they are, they just look different and most are 'edgier'. Backstories have been changed for some, as well, but the end result is still the same guy/gal at heart. And regardless of that, Ultimate Spidey and Avengers were just better written than their 616 counterparts at the time. Thanks to Jeph Loeb that's certainly not the case with the latter anymore, but oh well, every title has it's piss-poor runs.

After seeing some of the uninspired arguments against it, I just say 'to each his own' on Ultimate Marvel, now, as it's clear that some just won't accept it at all simply because it's different. But, if you haven't actually read it I'd suggest giving it a shot. You might be pleasantly surprised. It's nowhere near as bad as some would have you believe. They act like it's complete blasphemy and horribly written with art from a 6 year old with a box of Crayolas. Ultimate titles weren't outselling the original not long ago just by some odd miracle. They're actually pretty darn good.

I look at it this way: now we have TWO Thors in TWO different universes. I don't think the Ultimate-verse changed/raped/invalidated all the old stuff I used to read in the 80s. To be honest, I found the Ultimates a very refreshing and amusing take on the Avengers. It has a sense of humor that I love. Cap is a real badass and Thor is charming and witty and yeah, a little radical in his beliefs. But that doesn't mean that all that 616 stuff didn't happened. I see it as two different - and great - interpretations.

What I really hate, tough, is the Ultimates vol.3. Loeb and Madureira managed to do something that's offensive (not because of canon disrespect, but because of lack of quality) both to 616 and Ultimate fans.

Bottom line: if you like 616, you can ignore Ultimate... and vice-versa. I like 'em both for different reasons, so it's win-win to me. :cwink::up:

[kirbyfan]

I want Thor in his original costume that Jack Kirby created for Marvel!

Tone down the colors if you want, but definitely the original costume, that's the real Thor and not all these reinventions that have come over the years!

[Judson Caspian]

I'm mostly worried about the winged helmet, how it's going to work in the film. Excluding the wings or the helmet is out of the question.

[Balthus Dire]

I think the winged helmet will look fine to be honest.

[Judson Caspian]

Here's hoping.

[TheCorpulent1]

Looked pretty cool in Adventures in Babysitting. ;)

[Jerkofwonder]

Just go 1 page back. You'll see some awesome winged helmets. They didn't make that up in the comics.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I don't see any problem with the helmet. It looks cool and fits the character.

[TheCorpulent1]

Should the feathers be metal or actual feathers? I would've thought metal at first, but then I searched Google and started finding pictures like these:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/winged_helmet.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/158596c80.jpg

Now I think real feathers might be the way to go. Not black-tipped, though.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

The top ones perfect! just like that! does it come in Skarsgard size?:cwink:

[Canis Sapiens]

Metal or real feathers?

I'd be fine with both.

[TheCorpulent1]

The top ones perfect! just like that! does it come in Skarsgard size?:cwink:
I liked that one when I saw it, too. I'd prefer the modern helmet, with the sloping middle section that acts as a nose guard, though. It makes Thor look a bit fiercer.

[Agent 194]

I want Thor in his original costume that Jack Kirby created for Marvel!

Tone down the colors if you want, but definitely the original costume, that's the real Thor and not all these reinventions that have come over the years!


Have to admit (and I know this invites heated debate) but I'm with you brother.

[TheCorpulent1]

Really? The Kirby costume exactly as it is in the comics, outside-undies and all?

[The_Mighty_Thor]

No! No groin tuck on film,ever!

[TheCorpulent1]

I have to admit, it didn't actually look too bad on Superman. But Superman is the quintessential superhero. I would prefer Thor with a little more Viking influence than the classic Kirby costume provides.

[Agent 194]

Really? The Kirby costume exactly as it is in the comics, outside-undies and all?

Well,...I guess that is a small detail. One I hadn't actually thought about. Maybe I'm too much of a purist mixed with a bit of unrealistic and idealistic expectations. But whatever you call it that part of me, it always wants to see them make it work. I quote or paraphrase John Byrne from an article I read not too long ago where he basically says 'has Hollywood ever tried to make it work?' Too often they steer away from the known concept. But man,..that'd score points with me.

[Doctor Doom]

I have to admit, it didn't actually look too bad on Superman. But Superman is the quintessential superhero. I would prefer Thor with a little more Viking influence than the classic Kirby costume provides.

I don't want to see underwear on the outside either.

[Jerkofwonder]

I think the ages of asgaurd outfit is the way to go. Saying that they should use his modern one to pad the arms is retarded. Do you think we will never see Thor out of his primary suit? We need someone with big enough arms that you don't have to pad them with a suit or it will be inconsistent when we see the arms.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well,...I guess that is a small detail. One I hadn't actually thought about. Maybe I'm too much of a purist mixed with a bit of unrealistic and idealistic expectations. But whatever you call it that part of me, it always wants to see them make it work. I quote or paraphrase John Byrne from an article I read not too long ago where he basically says 'has Hollywood ever tried to make it work?' Too often they steer away from the known concept. But man,..that'd score points with me.
Spider-Man proves that comic costumes can work in movies. Personally, I just prefer the new costume to the old one.

[Canis Sapiens]

Spider-Man proves that comic costumes can work in movies. Personally, I just prefer the new costume to the old one.

Agreed on both.

[Changeling]

Here's a manip I made of Thor. This would make for a badass costume IMO.

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq285/rorschach2012/THORN.jpg

[Thunder_god]

Is that meant to be a Thor costume? If so, I see nothing Thor about it.

It would be a nice Lord of the Rings costume though.

T

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, it's a bit plain.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

As I told him in another thread it needs the metal plates on the front. I would want more detail in the movie but it's pretty good for a manip.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yes, metal plates are a must. The cape should be attached to the top two, as well.

[Anubis Raptor]

The cape should be attached to the top two, as well.

You mean like this:

http://www.comicbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/thor7var.jpg

This design is badass by the way:hehe:

[TheCorpulent1]

Yep, just like that.

[Philly Phanboy]

A definite yes to the plates/discs but a no to the cape for me.

Maybe one or two scenes with the cape would be fine just as a nod to the classic look but I see it as a very non-essential part of the overall costume that could easily be done away with.

[TheCorpulent1]

He's a prince and a fantasy-style warrior. A cape is totally essential.

[Philly Phanboy]

Tell that to Ultimate Thor. :cmad: :oldrazz:

[TheCorpulent1]

F*** Ultimate Thor. He got his ass kicked by Ultimate Colossus. :o

[Ahura Mazda]

Really? That lowers my opinion of the Ultimate universe even more.....as difficult as it may be to do so

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Ultimate Pietro stole his belt and made him useless. One of many reasons why I hate Ultimates!

[Ahura Mazda]

Without his belt he is not strong enough.......what?!?

Did they completely rape Thor in that universe?

Anyways, I hope they use the 616 Universe for this movie and not the Ultimate one.

[TheCorpulent1]

It'll be its own universe, as we've seen with Iron Man, the Hulk, etc. I just hope it borrows more from the 616 universe to build the character.

[Changeling]

The Ultimates story was great, but I always felt that Thor was lacking, I want it to borrow more from 616 too.

[broblacksteel]

lol, skars will probably never get that big to fill out an outfit with sleeves, so go with the classic thor costume so whatever size he gains at least his arms and maybe broader shoulders and back will distract u from the padded leg muscle due to the skinny legs syndrome.... :woot::whatever:

Seriously though, i think it will be a mix of lord of the rings, pathfinder etc.

[luca_frontino]

I personally prefer Ultimate Thor's costume and hammer.
And if they made the belt and the hammer the actual source of his power, it could tie perfectly in the science world of Iron Man and Incredible Hulk.
Or, at least, be more believable.
Just, please... leave mythology and magic to the stupid Harry Potter franchise.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Maybe we'll just leave you to the stupid harry potter franchise! Mythology is a must with Thor! Even the Ultimates have mythological elements to Thor.

[TheCorpulent1]

I personally prefer Ultimate Thor's costume and hammer.
And if they made the belt and the hammer the actual source of his power, it could tie perfectly in the science world of Iron Man and Incredible Hulk.
Or, at least, be more believable.
Just, please... leave mythology and magic to the stupid Harry Potter franchise.
Mythology is sort of central to the character. I'd be beyond pissed if they bastardized him by making him tech-based because that's simply not Thor.

[Canis Sapiens]

Yeah, I don't think the technological approach would be a good idea. But I'm sure it won't happen. After all, the first movie will be placed in ancient times, in a magic land, with lots of mythical beings. If they introduce high technology in that, just so that Thor fits in with the Avengers movie later... it would be pretty stupid... even for Hollywood standards.

[marcvader]

I personally prefer Ultimate Thor's costume and hammer.
And if they made the belt and the hammer the actual source of his power, it could tie perfectly in the science world of Iron Man and Incredible Hulk.
Or, at least, be more believable.
Just, please... leave mythology and magic to the stupid Harry Potter franchise.
Oh hell no. That has to be one of the dumbest things suggested around here i've read.

[Jerkofwonder]

You guys know that in the actual mythology Thor had to where a big magic belt to lift the hammer? He had to wear special gloves to.

[marcvader]

Yes but they were magic based.

[TheCorpulent1]

Exactly. It's the tech aspect I object to, not the accuracy.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

You guys know that in the actual mythology Thor had to where a big magic belt to lift the hammer? He had to wear special gloves to.


He didn't need the belt to lift the hammer, and the gloves protected him from some of Mjolnir's power. Plus the belt and gloves were magical not technical.

[TheCorpulent1]

I think he did need the belt in some myths. But Mjolnir functioned differently in the myths. It didn't have an enchantment, it was just really, really, really heavy, so Thor, who's already strong, with the belt, which made him stronger, was the only one who could lift it.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Possibly but he didn't need it in very many of them. That's the tough thing about Norse mythology though, the Norse were a bunch of spread out villages and tribes and they each had their own stories about the gods. There are wide discrepancies in their appearances and feats. In the case of Thor he could be red headed or blonde, bearded or not, a war loving barbarian or a peaceful god of agriculture, he could summon storms or he was only referred to as the god of thunder because of the sound of hoofs as his chariot was drawn across the sky. It was only after writers started collecting the stories into volumes that they would pick what they felt was the most prominent description or tale and change the details from the other stories to match. When dealing with Norse mythology it all depends on the specific myth and which version/translation of it you've read. So saying that Thor did, needed or looked like anything in the "real' myths is kind of a joke.

[TheCorpulent1]

Quite true. Not to mention, most of what we do know about the myths is filtered through Christian interpretations, since vikings didn't really write much down.

[marcvader]

very true

[Jerkofwonder]

I know it wasn't technological. But if you've read all of Ultimates 2 you'd know it is not in Ultimates either. I'm not saying they should go with it, but Ultimate Thor is not as bad as you guys make him out to be.

Just stating for the record that I do not want to see Ultimate Thor in the movies. 616 all the way. =D

[luca_frontino]

The truth is the main audience will laugh at a 616 Thor. Not at an Ultimate Thor.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

The truth is the main audience will laugh at a 616 Thor. Not at an Ultimate Thor.

That's where you are wrong. His name is Thor. Poeple know Thor is a god. They will expect and accept the real Thor where as even most comic fans laugh at ultimate Thor.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, movie fans seem to do fine with epic fantasy movies. I don't understand why so many people think putting Thor in that context--which is the proper context that he's always belonged in--would be so silly. No one's saying he needs to speak with Shakespearean pronouns or anything, either. Just give him an English accent and an air of regality in his speech patterns and he'll be no different from Aragorn or the protagonists of any other major, successful fantasy/medieval movie.

[Daredevil_2003]

Yes. I like Ultimate and 616 Thor, but saying they should go the Ultimate route because audiences wouldn't buy the classic version is just a little silly. I think they should do what they've done with most of the characters, thus far, which is draw inspiration from both.

[Changeling]

No tech for Thor. Make him just a magical god.

[Venomfan]

this
I need the big 3 to be in it in a big way:D Here is a great pic of them drawn by Jason Metcalf and painting done by JPRart on DeviantArt:
http://i40.tinypic.com/2w53j9j.jpg

[echostation]

I know I not great artist but I thought sufficiency could be obtained by developing a baseline picture on a foreign actor whom they'll most likely choose for role of this Thor... putting drawing and painting over him yeeld high effective overview of how to see at looking drawing of the character, understanding that this is just for foundationary work, solid foundations will lead to structure so people can base ideas of what Thor costume will really look like in real life based on impositioning on real picture of moving iktur, dancer or actor:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6221/thortest.jpg

[Canis Sapiens]

Hmmm... O...K?:huh:

[simba317]

Yeah, movie fans seem to do fine with epic fantasy movies. I don't understand why so many people think putting Thor in that context--which is the proper context that he's always belonged in--would be so silly. No one's saying he needs to speak with Shakespearean pronouns or anything, either. Just give him an English accent and an air of regality in his speech patterns and he'll be no different from Aragorn or the protagonists of any other major, successful fantasy/medieval movie.

You mean Swedish. :woot:

~simba_317

[Superhero 101]

I think if they make this movie it should be 616 thor if people did not laugh at Lord of The Rings Why woukd they laugh at Thor

[Gamma Goliath]

if the movie is set in "ancient times" this should work, is very close to the classic. as for the cape he can wear it like a royal robe, but in action he throws it off to get ready to scrap.
as for loki he be all tall dark and handsome, but TRUE form should be ugly and decietful.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/9009_press11-001.jpg
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/9009_press13-001.jpg
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/9009_press09-001.jpg
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/9009_press08-001.jpg
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/9009_press10-001.jpg

[TheCorpulent1]

Loki's appearance is the one thing I didn't like about the Rodi/Ribic Loki series. Loki's never been ugly.

[marcvader]

He's never been ugly but I did like that it made him different from the rest of the Aesir. It underlined the fact he didn't really belong amongst them. But whatever..

[Vartha]

Mythology is sort of central to the character. I'd be beyond pissed if they bastardized him by making him tech-based because that's simply not Thor.
It didn't work in the comics either, and I'm not talking about Clor/Ragnarok.

[Agent 194]

Mythology is sort of central to the character. I'd be beyond pissed if they bastardized him by making him tech-based because that's simply not Thor.


Hear, here.

[Shivsguy616]

Hear, here.

I think you mean "hear, hear".

[Agent 194]

I think you mean "hear, hear".


Well,...I've actually seen it both ways. And it's true origins are a little sketchy. Although you got my meaning.

I like something closer to the original design.

[Nivek]

I personally prefer Ultimate Thor's costume and hammer.
And if they made the belt and the hammer the actual source of his power, it could tie perfectly in the science world of Iron Man and Incredible Hulk.
Or, at least, be more believable.
Just, please... leave mythology and magic to the stupid Harry Potter franchise.


Wow, this is like a gay black jewish man stopping by a KKK rally for directions.

[Judson Caspian]

but in action he throws it off
No.

[3 Dev Adam]

http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5763&stc=1&d=1240786265

[TheCorpulent1]

Too barbarianish. Thor's a warrior, but he should carry an air of nobility about him, too. That costume carries an air of "ARGH, I'VE KILLED 30 MEN TODAY! BRING ME MEAD AND WHORES!"

[marcvader]

It's Hagar the Horrible

[Nivek]

Why horns on the helm? This is about Marvels Thor, no need to replace the Wings with something else. If anything, I just want them polished metal, and not just white bird wings stuck on there...

[TheCorpulent1]

I kind of like the idea of natural feathers, myself. Metal wings may have been more realistic, but gods don't need to be realistic and feathers would give the helmet some more texture.

[3 Dev Adam]

Too barbarianish. Thor's a warrior, but he should carry an air of nobility about him, too. That costume carries an air of "ARGH, I'VE KILLED 30 MEN TODAY! BRING ME MEAD AND WHORES!"

Yes, it's too barbarish, but it's just a starting point. I tried to find a way for those "circles" on his costume to make sense. All the rest is loosely based on Nordic images.

[Lobo]

This is the ideal Thor costume IMO (http://www.comicbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/thor7var.jpg)

[3 Dev Adam]

This is the ideal Thor costume IMO (http://www.comicbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/thor7var.jpg)

It is very cool.

[TheCorpulent1]

What doesn't make sense about the circles on Thor's costume? The top two hold his cape in place and the others are just decorative.

Personally, I'd go with the current costume with a few alterations. I'll see if I can draw a sketch of what I'm thinking of during lunch today and post it later on.

[3 Dev Adam]

What doesn't make sense about the circles on Thor's costume? The top two hold his cape in place and the others are just decorative.

Holding the cape, okay, but they still make no sense story-wise. Sure, it's Marvel's Thor, where Asgard is a quasi-retrotech Kirby-esque landscape. But still...

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Yes, it's too barbarish, but it's just a starting point. I tried to find a way for those "circles" on his costume to make sense. All the rest is loosely based on Nordic images.

Why, you don't think having armor plates makes sense unless they're chained together?

[3 Dev Adam]

Why, you don't think having armor plates makes sense unless they're chained together?

Chaining 'em together DO make more sense, at least to me. You can disagree, you're entitled to. Besides, this is not going to be Thor's costume for the movie, it was just a sketch made for the heck of it.

[Venomfan]

why does it have to make sense? its a costume, he wears what he feels like

[marcvader]

This is the ideal Thor costume IMO (http://www.comicbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/thor7var.jpg) I love that look. The only problem is that mail is not form fitting like its drawn and you would lose the actors actual muscle tone especially in the arms thats why i say this suit but sleeveless.

[Venomfan]

I love that look. The only problem is that mail is not form fitting like its drawn and you would lose the actors actual muscle tone especially in the arms thats why i say this suit but sleeveless.
kind of like this one?


I need the big 3 to be in it in a big way:D Here is a great pic of them drawn by Jason Metcalf and painting done by JPRart on DeviantArt:
http://i40.tinypic.com/2w53j9j.jpg

[tamron]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/JokerSoze/ThorAgesofThunder.jpg

This.

[Shivsguy616]

Well,...I've actually seen it both ways.


It's often misspelled. That's why it caught my eye and I just thought I should mention it. It comes from Parliament and is short for what they used to say, ie; "hear him, hear him!"

[3 Dev Adam]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/JokerSoze/ThorAgesofThunder.jpg

This.

With no gloves, even better.

[Keyser Soze]

I love that look. The only problem is that mail is not form fitting like its drawn and you would lose the actors actual muscle tone especially in the arms thats why i say this suit but sleeveless.

Of course, the flipside of this point could be that concealing the actor's actual muscle tone could allow you to put in some padding into the costume, and make Thor look bulkier.

[marcvader]

Nah, I'm all about the naturale. Hate padding especially when it comes to Thor. His arms deliver alot of his pure power to me and the only thing I ask of whoever plays him is to work out the bi's at the least.

[Agent 194]

Haven't visited this thread in a while. Have we decided on a costume yet? And how's that casting going?

[Canis Sapiens]

It looks like Skarsgard and Charlie Hunnam (sp?) are the front runners. Skarsgard said in an interview Marvel haven't called him yet, and Charlie said he actually tested for the role... so... news are kind of slow.:csad:

[Agent 194]

Sao Palo eh?

Canis...I'll say the only thing I know in Portugese...O que voce esta facendo?

(I have a friend from Recife)

[Canis Sapiens]

LOL! Your Portuguese is fine! And this phrase is a nice start, the girls here love to know you're interested in their lives... :woot:

Sao Paulo is a concrete jungle, you just work and work and work here... But your friend is lucky, Recife is a nice, sunny place with wonderful beaches and fine women too. You should force him into inviting you to visit his city! :word:

[Agent 194]

He lives in New York now. Big time composer. He gets back to Brazil once a year. I open every phone and E-mail conversation with that one phrase I know. Our little joke. As you mentioned it's a nice one to start with. Too easy to learn the bad words first.

[Balthus Dire]

Of course, the flipside of this point could be that concealing the actor's actual muscle tone could allow you to put in some padding into the costume, and make Thor look bulkier.

I'm sure they could make it look form fitting anyway. It's the film world.

[3 Dev Adam]

Why don't they just bulk up a real person? Padding will always look fake.

[Balthus Dire]

Why don't they just bulk up a real person? Padding will always look fake.

I think I quoted the wrong post originally. Anyway, I was moreseo agreeing with someone that chainmail would look awesome on Thor's costume, but someone else said it wouldn't be form fitting. I'm just saying it's film...they can do anything they want, really.

I personally don't care how they make him look bigger. Padding in costumes works sometimes; it worked in Spiderman. If it's subtle you'd barely notice, but if it's as bad as Juggernaut in X3 then I'd vomit.

I honestly would rather Thor be played by a good actor than some massive body builder anyway.

[3 Dev Adam]

A good actor can gain decent muscle mass for the role.

[JAK®]

Why don't they just bulk up a real person? Padding will always look fake.Bulking up an actor to Thor's size isn't easy. First of all, the time it would take to develop that muscle just isn't available. It can take years to get really big. It might not even be possible, depending on genetics.

So either we get a Thor that is smaller than he should be, or some padding is used.

[3 Dev Adam]

Bulking up an actor to Thor's size isn't easy.


Neither impossible.

[Asteroid-Man]

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1182/2907189580019fa71beo.jpg
Far right for Thor movie, far left for Avengers movie.

[TheCorpulent1]

Bulking up an actor to Thor's size isn't easy. First of all, the time it would take to develop that muscle just isn't available. It can take years to get really big. It might not even be possible, depending on genetics.

So either we get a Thor that is smaller than he should be, or some padding is used.
Hemsworth seems to already be pretty buff, so I imagine he could gain a lot of muscle in the time he's got. But does it really matter if Thor is not super-enormous? Personally, I'm glad we got a potentially good actor rather than a really muscular bodybuilder who happens to also act.

[Vaportrail]

Asteroid-Man brings up a good point. It would sort of make sense for Thor to have an Asgardian outfit as well as one more suited to Earth. It's not hokey when everyone's dressed up like that, but something a little less flashy for 'Midgard' might be more workable.

I'm more of a traditionalist, I'd like to see something close to the second from the left on Asgard, but it's kind of a cool idea.

[TheCorpulent1]

The Ultimate costume should never, ever, ever, ever, ever, be used, ever. I hate that costume. It's boring. If anything, give Thor the King Thor armor or some other armored version of the classic costume for Asgard and the current costume for the modern-day stuff:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Thor/thor7var.jpg

[bossman550]

I like Coipel's take.

[TheCorpulent1]

If Hemsworth can pack on enough muscle, I'd say use Coipel's costume and just leave the chainmail off the arms. If he can't, the chainmail over the arms can have some subtle padding to make him look bulkier.

[louiebling$]

Thors Current is my fav costume and would be perfect for the big screen.

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

Assuming his solo movie is set in Asgard, this:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/3351186991_a57fa8bf08.jpg

For Avengers, this:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3084/bioultimatethor.jpg

I agree with this choice!

[bunk]

Coipel's version rocks. I did a quick sketch with a few alterations from his design.

http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs42/f/2009/137/a/c/Thor_by_Bunk2.jpg

[Vartha]

Hemsworth seems to already be pretty buff, so I imagine he could gain a lot of muscle in the time he's got. But does it really matter if Thor is not super-enormous? Personally, I'm glad we got a potentially good actor rather than a really muscular bodybuilder who happens to also act.

HEH when I in my Chaine maile I look alot more buff than I really am :D Which is why I hope they go with some variation of the New Thor costume, you look much more powerful in that kind of armour.:woot:

[Aztec]

Totally agree with The Mr. Terrific and Dardevil 2003.

[Vartha]

Coipel's version rocks. I did a quick sketch with a few alterations from his design.

http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs42/f/2009/137/a/c/Thor_by_Bunk2.jpg

Wow Bunk I had no idea you drew. That's somewhat what I would have drawn as well.

[Vartha]

Totally agree with The Mr. Terrific and Dardevil 2003.
I don't agree with the Ulty Thor.
I think the Coipel costume should be used for the present costume. Ulty Thor looks too Madmax, or futuristic for Thor. Ulty Thor reminds me of the Christopher Lambert Sci-Fi Beowulf movie.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

. Ulty Thor reminds me of the Christopher Lambert Sci-Fi Beowulf movie.

Plus he sucks!

[Aztec]

I don't agree with the Ulty Thor.
I think the Coipel costume should be used for the present costume. Ulty Thor looks too Madmax, or futuristic for Thor. Ulty Thor reminds me of the Christopher Lambert Sci-Fi Beowulf movie.

That's exactly the point. He'll have Tony or S.H.I.E.L.D. design him a more modern version of his costume. This way he can fit in with the image the team is trying to project to the public.

I never understood the hatred some fanboys have of Ultimate Thor. I thought he was PERFECTLY handled in U 1 & 2. Very creative for Mark Millar to come up with that angle, IMHO.

[3 Dev Adam]

The Ulty costume looks Versace near THIS...

http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5813&stc=1&d=1242630334

[The_Mighty_Thor]

That's exactly the point. He'll have Tony or S.H.I.E.L.D. design him a more modern version of his costume. This way he can fit in with the image the team is trying to project to the public.

What image is that?

[Colossal Spoons]

Bulking up an actor to Thor's size isn't easy. First of all, the time it would take to develop that muscle just isn't available. It can take years to get really big. It might not even be possible, depending on genetics.

So either we get a Thor that is smaller than he should be, or some padding is used.

Celebrity personal trainers are not to be underestimated. And considering he has nothing to do but eat, work out, and memorize lines; it's def possible :up:. And the actor playing Thor already seems to have decent definition already so he he won't be starting from scratch.

[The Ace of Knaves]

Yea the guy who has got the gig is a bit of a unit anyway. It won't take that much work for him to have the right physique. And I'm talking about a realistic physique, I hope people don't actually think comic book characters physiques are realistically attainable unless you are a full blown body builder.

[Colossal Spoons]

or HHH :cmad:

[The Ace of Knaves]

:hehe: Well yea exactly. NO ****ING WRESTLERS ANYWHERE NEAR ANY OF THESE MOVIES!!!!

So people who expect these guys to be physically accurate to their comic book counterparts can keep on dreaming.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Comic book proportions are out of the question but Thor needs to be big and muscular. That's a must. If they weren't tying these movies together by using the same actors in Avengers they could go with a shorter more thickly built actor and just cast short people around him. It's easier to look big(thick) when your not 6'4". It would also be easier to make a shorter guy look taller than it would be to make a leaner guy look built on film. As far as bulking up goes, some people do it easily and could add quit a bit of size in several months but others could lift for years and barely notice the difference.

[The Ace of Knaves]

Yea obviously they need to bulk up. But comic book proportions are exactly what it says on the tin; comic book proportions.

[Vartha]

That's exactly the point. He'll have Tony or S.H.I.E.L.D. design him a more modern version of his costume. This way he can fit in with the image the team is trying to project to the public.

I never understood the hatred some fanboys have of Ultimate Thor. I thought he was PERFECTLY handled in U 1 & 2. Very creative for Mark Millar to come up with that angle, IMHO.
It's Millar's treatment of Thor. we 616 fans don't like. I had very little problem with the Cartoon verison, but, 616 Thor plain and simple is NOT a hippie. (I should know, I've been one in the 1970's :D)
THINK about what Thor's GOD of, LIGHTNING and storms, in the Viking era Thor was considered very EXTREME, very WAR like.

YES I know this is Marvel, but, it doesn't change, THOR IS A WARRIOR, a NORSE God.
Ulty Thor's costume looks too much like the X-Men movie costumes as well. Thor needs something that looks DIFFERENT from the X-films plain and simple.

[Vartha]

Yea obviously they need to bulk up. But comic book proportions are exactly what it says on the tin; comic book proportions.
Well keep in mind the same actor is supposed to play Blake as well.
If they KEEP the lame doctor idea, that'd be hard to portray if Chris is too built.

[The Ace of Knaves]

Maybe they would shoot all the Blake stuff first?

[TheCorpulent1]

Well keep in mind the same actor is supposed to play Blake as well.
If they KEEP the lame doctor idea, that'd be hard to portray if Chris is too built.
What? Why? That's a stupid idea. :huh:

[Vartha]

Yeah I guess they could do that, but what about the Avengers movie? :D
I'm just saying don't be surprised if Chris doesn't pump up TOO much.

[Vartha]

What? Why? That's a stupid idea. :huh:

That's the original idea tho Corp. Granted the humility part is done in the Viking Era, but what about now?
Are they going to go with JMS's Blake or the original lame doctor?

[TheCorpulent1]

What's the point of having the same actor play both roles? They're gonna have a He-Man/Prince Adam level of ridiculousness. :o

[Vartha]

That's what the casting call asked for if I recall right Corp.
I don't know Corp, wish I did. All I know is that Blake IS now in the scripts. and I'm hunting the changes down...nobody I trust has them or is willing to give them up.

I'm heading to bed. worked 12 hours lastnight, see ya later.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

They need two different actors. The same guy playing Blake and Thor will be stupid.

[bunk]

I would like to see two different actors, mostly because it's just not something you see in movies.

[TheCorpulent1]

Thematically, it doesn't make much sense to have Thor and Blake be the same either. Thor's not Superman, simply dressing himself as a human to retain his connection to human society. Thor grew too arrogant as a powerful warrior and was placed in a frail, crippled human body as penance. How does being a giant, buff human teach Thor humility? :o

[Canis Sapiens]

They need two different actors. The same guy playing Blake and Thor will be stupid.

I agree. But I still have doubts Blake is in the movie at all.

[Canis Sapiens]

Thematically, it doesn't make much sense to have Thor and Blake be the same either. Thor's not Superman, simply dressing himself as a human to retain his connection to human society. Thor grew too arrogant as a powerful warrior and was placed in a frail, crippled human body as penance. How does being a giant, buff human teach Thor humility? :o

You nailed it in the head.:up::up::up:

[Canis Sapiens]

It's Millar's treatment of Thor. we 616 fans don't like. I had very little problem with the Cartoon verison, but, 616 Thor plain and simple is NOT a hippie. (I should know, I've been one in the 1970's :D)
THINK about what Thor's GOD of, LIGHTNING and storms, in the Viking era Thor was considered very EXTREME, very WAR like.

YES I know this is Marvel, but, it doesn't change, THOR IS A WARRIOR, a NORSE God.



Well, I'm not a mythological Thor expert (not even a comic book Thor expert, lol), but wasn't he the son of Odin and Gaea or Jord (the Earth Goddess)? I have read somewhere that he was not only a warrior god, but also a protector of Earth (his mother) and nature. I also have read about some stories of the times when Christianity was arriving in the Scandinavian countries. Thor was depicted as a "defender of the people against the evil Christ".

That gave me a sort of a hippie vibe... just not a pacifist one. :woot:

[Vartha]

Thematically, it doesn't make much sense to have Thor and Blake be the same either. Thor's not Superman, simply dressing himself as a human to retain his connection to human society. Thor grew too arrogant as a powerful warrior and was placed in a frail, crippled human body as penance. How does being a giant, buff human teach Thor humility? :o
Thor's stripped of his Immortality and powers and placed on Earth. You have to figure there are plenty of warriors that match Thor in size and build in the real world, and without his powers and immortality he's just another Viking.
The way it's approached the (humility) is VERY Close to the way Ages of Thunder was approached, with some added story as THAT story ends the Movie continues.
You'll like it Corp.

I'm just not sure how they plan on applying Blake since the humility factor's done earlier than in the comic books and in a different way.

[Vartha]

Well, I'm not a mythological Thor expert (not even a comic book Thor expert, lol), but wasn't he the son of Odin and Gaea or Jord (the Earth Goddess)? I have read somewhere that he was not only a warrior god, but also a protector of Earth (his mother) and nature. I also have read about some stories of the times when Christianity was arriving in the Scandinavian countries. Thor was depicted as a "defender of the people against the evil Christ".

That gave me a sort of a hippie vibe... just not a pacifist one. :woot:

Yeah Thor became a Farmer's God basically during the arrival of Christianity.
But Marvel's borrows from myth. Marvel's 616 Thor skips that era. The first draft he's FORCED into that Farming gig, it doesn't MAKE Thor a hippie, it forces him to realize what it takes to stay alive without his godhood.

[Blade X]

Over a year ago (before the IRON MAN movie came out) I heard a RUMOR from a reliable source (someone who claims to works in Hollywood) that the costume Thor will wear in the live action movie is the Mike Deodato designed costume that he wore back in the 90's when Warren Ellis briefly wrote the book. Now the person I got this info from, also told me (and some others who were at the comic shop I work at) that Iron Man was going to get unmasked/have his identity revealed in the movie. So I think that this guy can be trusted. On the flip side, this info is over a year old and somethings might have changed since then. So take this RUMOR with a big spoon of salt.

[bunk]

Isn't the Deodato version pretty much the worst thing ever? There's no way.

[3 Dev Adam]

Over a year ago (before the IRON MAN movie came out) I heard a RUMOR from a reliable source (someone who claims to works in Hollywood) that the costume Thor will wear in the live action movie is the Mike Deodato designed costume that he wore back in the 90's when Warren Ellis briefly wrote the book. Now the person I got this info from, also told me (and some others who were at the comic shop I work at) that Iron Man was going to get unmasked/have his identity revealed in the movie. So I think that this guy can be trusted. On the flip side, this info is over a year old and somethings might have changed since then. So take this RUMOR with a big spoon of salt.

By that time, the original concept of Iron Man's armour was pretty different as well.

[3 Dev Adam]

Well, I'm not a mythological Thor expert (not even a comic book Thor expert, lol), but wasn't he the son of Odin and Gaea or Jord (the Earth Goddess)? I have read somewhere that he was not only a warrior god, but also a protector of Earth (his mother) and nature. I also have read about some stories of the times when Christianity was arriving in the Scandinavian countries. Thor was depicted as a "defender of the people against the evil Christ".

That gave me a sort of a hippie vibe... just not a pacifist one. :woot:

There are at least seven well known variations of Thor, including the one that portrays him as dumber than a doormat (Gaiman used this one in Sandman).

[Spider-ManHero12]

Assuming his solo movie is set in Asgard, this:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/3351186991_a57fa8bf08.jpg
Honestly, I think we'll get something along the lines of this. :up:

[yoshimura]

More Ages of Thunder:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3606/3543824409_3c3e84da45_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2202/3543824417_ba67ddbab5_o.jpg


Follow-up issue, Reign of Blood:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3344/3544651856_c847161c3e.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2131/3544651872_789992a00f_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3369/3543851431_922baee12d.jpg

[tamron]

Over a year ago (before the IRON MAN movie came out) I heard a RUMOR from a reliable source (someone who claims to works in Hollywood) that the costume Thor will wear in the live action movie is the Mike Deodato designed costume that he wore back in the 90's when Warren Ellis briefly wrote the book.

This?

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6508/thorcostume5.jpg

Oh, hell no.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/JokerSoze/ThorAgesofThunder.jpg

[Canis Sapiens]

This?

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6508/thorcostume5.jpg

Oh, hell no.


Oh, hell no, indeed.

No wonder I stopped reading comics in the 90s.

(Now I'm reading them again thanks to JMS run on Thor)

[bossman550]

^ that pic uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh noo way

[cerealkiller182]

Im a big fan of the current one with the armor on the arms and legs

[Canis Sapiens]

That Mike Deodato Thor desperately needs a bigger T-shirt. :woot:

[[A]]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/JokerSoze/ThorAgesofThunder.jpgthis is.. gooood

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6508/thorcostume5.jpgsilly joke: who made this? Liefeld? look! no feet! he's even missing half a leg!

[bossman550]

Looks like a gay thor ( no offense )

[3 Dev Adam]

I am gay and *I* am offended by that image.

Deodato Liefelderized Thor. Ugh.

Ages of Thunder does look good indeed. But I'm not sure about the armor on Reign of Blood.

[Vartha]

Heh MANY MANY people do not like that costume. I hope to heck they FIRE the guy that even suggested that.
I still think tights WILL NOT work with Thor on the silver screen. I can see leather pants on both the past and Present Thor. that Visa commercial that had the Marvel characters just proves that. Tights look too corny and not at all believable.

[TheCorpulent1]

Thor's a character that really doesn't need tights. His costume has evolved over the past couple decades to favor more practicality anyway, even in the comics. I very much doubt we'll have to worry about tights on Thor in the movie.

[The Ace of Knaves]

Chainmail undergarments for the win :up: It's gotta be chainmail.

[Lobster Charlie]

I'm betting they'll go more Ultimate Thor in terms of costuming. He'll maybe wear the winged cap for a scene or two, but the climax will have to show as much of the star's face as possible. Think Spiderman and how his mask is always ripped at the end, Judge Dredd (where Stallone is basically maskless throughout most of the film), and Iron Man.

Or not, just throwing it out there.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

The helmet doesn't really cover Thor's face so why would he need to lose it so the star could be seen? I would have no problem with it getting knocked off in the climactic battle but he shouldn't just stop wearing it.

[Lobster Charlie]

The helmet doesn't really cover Thor's face so why would he need to lose it so the star could be seen? I would have no problem with it getting knocked off in the climactic battle but he shouldn't just stop wearing it.

You know, to show off his pretty hair and all that? ;) I'm all for having him wear it as much as possible, but I've just come to expect Hollywood to nerf things like that from time to time.

[TheCorpulent1]

Taking the majority of the influence from the Ultimate costume would take away more of my excitement for the movie than it reasonably should. I really, really don't want to see the Ultimate costume or even have to look past the Ultimate costume to see that the character is mostly 616 Thor like I had to do in Ultimate Avengers. Marvel's had a great track record of staying true to the classic looks of the characters with Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, Spider-Man, Ghost Rider, etc. I hope they keep that up for Thor.

[The Ace of Knaves]

How comes you hate the ultimate costume so much Corp? Not saying I like it, just curious.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's just so plain. It "modernizes" Thor's costume by taking away virtually everything that's visually interesting about it. No helmet, no viking overtones, no theatricality, no cape; it represents Thor as "just some dude" to me, not a god whose formative years took place a couple millennia ago. The only bit I do like about it is the glowing circles, but those don't really make sense on Thor anyway, since they're more sci fi than fantasy.

[The Ace of Knaves]

Yea that's pretty much how I feel about it. It's too futuristic looking.