The Official 'Hulk in Avengers' thread.

[Hoblin]

I didn't mind the announcent of Mark Ruffalo as the new Bruce Banner for one reason: It confirms that Bruce Banner is in the movie. Yeah, I would have preferred Norton, but a recast is better than not having the Hulk in the movie. And on a side note...

Christ! I REALLY hope they don't go the "Banner in control of the Hulk" route. It skips past the whole dichotomy that makes the character awesome.

"Banner in control of the Hulk" is just another way saying "Super-strong Banner." And Strong Banner isn't the Hulk. Not even close. At all. Seriously. What if they cured Banner of the Hulk, and then injected him with some serum that gave him super strength? Bam! Super-strong Banner! Now we can rename the book and everything!

A little in control isn't too bad (and it's pretty much the status quo in the comics). Just enough sub-concious control to reign the beast in and keep it from being completely animalistic. And Super-strong Banner can be an interesting storyline for a little while, but not for a movie. Unless it's something like Banner is in control for a little while and then Hulk gets all pissed off and comes out all extra-mad and smashy and stuff.

Basically, I think Banner in control of the Hulk makes about as much sense (and is just as exciting) as Hawkeye in control of Captain America. And that's laaaaaaaaaaaame!

Like what if Doctor Doom did some whacked out mumbo jumbo and switched Hawkeye's and Captain America's minds? So now Clint Barton is stuck in Captain America's body. Is that Captain America? Hell NO, it's not Captain America. It's Clint Barton in Cap's body...duh!

Or what about all those times that Loki or the Stranger or the Collector or whatever crazy cosmic character took control of Hulk and made him do bad things and kick puppies or something like that? Would you blame Hulk for those things? Was that Hulk? Hell NO, it's not Hulk. It's the Stranger in Hulk's body...duh!

I don't even know if that makes sense, but I imagine that if I said it on the Jerry Springer show the audience would go wild.

[JeetKuneDo]

Christ! I REALLY hope they don't go the "Banner in control of the Hulk" route. It skips past the whole dichotomy that makes the character awesome.

"Banner in control of the Hulk" is just another way saying "Super-strong Banner." And Strong Banner isn't the Hulk. Not even close. At all. Seriously. What if they cured Banner of the Hulk, and then injected him with some serum that gave him super strength? Bam! Super-strong Banner! Now we can rename the book and everything!


I have to wonder if Hollywood even knows the Hulk exists. They've treated every presentation of the character as "The Bruce Banner show". So to them, it probably makes perfect sense to have Banner control him so they can rid themselves of the pesky guy they are afraid to allow the power of speech to.

[Hoblin]

I have to wonder if Hollywood even knows the Hulk exists. They've treated every presentation of the character as "The Bruce Banner show". So to them, it probably makes perfect sense to have Banner control him so they can rid themselves of the pesky guy they are afraid to allow the power of speech to.


More speech would be awesome beyond belief. I personally don't think it would come off as corny or anything like that. It's expected that the Hulk has simplified speech. It's part of American pop culture. Everyone knows it.

I think that this clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5HJogYwVNo) almost perfectly demonstrates how Hulk should talk. And I don't think (although I'm not sure) that the general audience would find it awkward.

Am I just too accustomed to that manner of speech? Are we all too accepting of it because it's in the comics? Would the general audience find than corny or laughable ? These are serious question...I honestly don't know.

[First Avenger]

More speech and TIH's design would be perfect,I trust Whedon will make Hulk a real character.

[Cracker Jack]

TIH Hulk struggled lifting a humvy, which wouldnt even be a quarter of the weight of the tanks in Hulk, not to mention Blonsky gave Hulk a really good fight with just a little of the serum in him.

The 3 dogs were gamma powered and very strong themselves, doesnt matter what type of dog they were.

And anyway, how the hell are you CJ?


If you (can :cwink:) watch it, Ang's Hulk doesn't really lift the tank, he rams it and then uses centrifugal force so there :oldrazz: Also it's helps when he's twice the size of the tank.

Blonsky gave him a good fight? He doged him is all. Now Abony gave him a fight and he would have eaten the three gamma dogs.

I'm doing good Jamon and yourself?

[ArtTeacher]

I REALLY hope they don't go the "Banner in control of the Hulk" route. It skips past the whole dichotomy that makes the character awesome.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/Hulk5150/amen.jpg

"Banner in control of the Hulk" is just another way saying "Super-strong Banner." And Strong Banner isn't the Hulk. Not even close.

Exactly.

Basically, I think Banner in control of the Hulk is just as exciting as Hawkeye in control of Captain America. And that's lame!

Agreed.

Or what about (the) time that Loki took control of Hulk and made him do bad things...Would you blame Hulk for those things? Was that Hulk? Hell NO, it's not Hulk. It's (Loki) in Hulk's body...duh!

Thank you! Savage Hulk = WIN!

I don't even know if that makes sense, but I imagine that if I said it on the Jerry Springer show the audience would go wild.

I'm going wild. Nice post, Hoblin!

[Cracker Jack]

All this talk about TIH got me itching to watch it again. So I did. Just finished it.........


I'm glad I watched it again. It's a huge improvement from the first Hulk movie and we can reasonable assume it will get even better in the future.

Good post.

[Norm3]

It's probably my favorite tv show of all time.

But the Hulk they were supposed to put on screen was the one from the comic that was bouncing with his super legs from town to town. That was smashing tanks like they were nothing.

Letterier didn't want any of that because he never read the comics, he came to this progect as a fan of the tv show. So he reduced his strength. And Marvel had to squeeze his arm to have Hulk say one word.
I love the way the last two directors had no clue who the comic book Hulk was. They were quick studies & still couldn't buy into different CB things like LL didn't like the Abomination features. Ang Lee needed a King Kong size Hulk etc. Marvel just dropped the ball in hiring foreign directors that didn't grow up reading the CB..

[Norm3]

I also didn't like the fact LL need to make the Abomination taller than the Hulk in order to show he's stronger. Not to mention the changing of Samuel Sterns. Who was a dumb janitor who gets smart because of Gamma accident. It mirrored the Hulk in a sense. Dumb Janitor get turned into Genius Scientist.

[Norm3]

If they change the Hulk again. I hope we don't get another 15ft Giant-Man Hulk in Avengers.

http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo70/Legion1937/hulktoobig23.jpg

[Dark Raven]

If they change the Hulk again. I hope we don't get another 15ft Giant-Man Hulk in Avengers.

http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo70/Legion1937/hulktoobig23.jpg

The Hulk at that size would end up taking the place of Giant Man. Hulk was never meant to be a size changer.

[TheDarkKnight08]

I love the way the last two directors had no clue who the comic book Hulk was. They were quick studies & still couldn't buy into different CB things like LL didn't like the Abomination features. Ang Lee needed a King Kong size Hulk etc. Marvel just dropped the ball in hiring foreign directors that didn't grow up reading the CB..

That's kind of a narrow-minded view, don't you think? There are so many directors who take some liberties with the characters their films are about because they think it serves the film or their style in some way. I'm not saying it's ok for a director to ignore what's in the books, but some aspects of a comic book can restrict the filmmakers ability to adapt it. So small liberties must be made. While I didn't really like Abom's look in TIH, his look in the comic's wouldn't have looked so good on film. Would've looked a bit weird, don't you think? Maybe an amalgam of those looks would've worked. And I seriously doubt that the made quick studies of the books. Of course they acknowledged so many aspects of the character. They did somehow convince Marvel they were right for the job. They just took certain artistic liberties.

[Norm3]

That's kind of a narrow-minded view, don't you think? There are so many directors who take some liberties with the characters their films are about because they think it serves the film or their style in some way. I'm not saying it's ok for a director to ignore what's in the books, but some aspects of a comic book can restrict the filmmakers ability to adapt it. So small liberties must be made. While I didn't really like Abom's look in TIH, his look in the comic's wouldn't have looked so good on film. Would've looked a bit weird, don't you think? Maybe an amalgam of those looks would've worked. And I seriously doubt that the made quick studies of the books. Of course they acknowledged so many aspects of the character. They did somehow convince Marvel they were right for the job. They just took certain artistic liberties.
No I don't. Just like an American not grow up reading French or Chinese comic books. That American wouldn't be a better choice to direct one of those movie. It would be better to hire someone who was a fan of the source material than needing to learn from scratch. Sorry for not being PC.

[Cth]

I wouldn't mind if the status quo was similar to the end of ONSLAUGHT, where we did have a Banner controlled Hulk that was in danger of losing control and when he finally gives over, there's this insanely powerful, dangerous savage Hulk that takes care of business.

[Gamma Goliath]

If they change the Hulk again. I hope we don't get another 15ft Giant-Man Hulk in Avengers.

http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo70/Legion1937/hulktoobig23.jpg

I think hulk is standing kinda close to the camera there, I'm not entirely sure he's 15ft. Imo

[Norm3]

I think hulk is standing kinda close to the camera there, I'm not entirely sure he's 15ft. Imo
He's right next to the Hulk.

[Doctor Jones]

No I don't. Just like an American not grow up reading French or Chinese comic books. That American wouldn't be a better choice to direct one of those movie. It would be better to hire someone who was a fan of the source material than needing to learn from scratch. Sorry for not being PC.

That is pretty damn narrow minded. Simply hire the best filmmaker and stroryteller who will know what he can do to make a good film. And that includes reading the source material. He doesn't need to be a fan already. He just needs to be competent and know what makes the character work. Being a fan is a bonus, but it's not neccessary.

[Norm3]

That is pretty damn narrow minded. Simply hire the best filmmaker and stroryteller who will know what he can do to make a good film. And that includes reading the source material. He doesn't need to be a fan already. He just needs to be competent and know what makes the character work. Being a fan is a bonus, but it's not neccessary. Thats what they did they hired Ang Lee. I'm glad your happy with the result.

[Obi-Ron]

While I didn't really like Abom's look in TIH, his look in the comic's wouldn't have looked so good on film. Would've looked a bit weird, don't you think?

It would have been AWESOME. :abom:

[thorstone]

This character will be totally redesigned, if not gray as well-- it has been recast, get over it.

[ArtTeacher]

Well, there you have it, folks: The *official* word from Hollywood insider, "thorstone".

[Whiskey Tango]

There are a lot of insiders around here. Psychics too.

[JeetKuneDo]

There are a lot of insiders around here. Psychics too.

Sweet...how about some lottery numbers, guys?

[Pac-Master]

This character will be totally redesigned, if not gray as well-- it has been recast, get over it.
And your source is.......?

[Whiskey Tango]

sweet...how about some lottery numbers, guys?

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[Doctor Jones]

Thats what they did they hired Ang Lee. I'm glad your happy with the result.

I loved what Lee did in the Hulk. But that's subjective. I can understand people's dislike for that film.

But you're basing your point off of one filmmaker. Nolan, Singer, Donner, hell, Abrams wasn't really into Star Trek before directing it. And most of the actors in comic book films never read a comic book in their lives prior to being cast. But the good ones read the comics and understood what it took to make a great film. And that doesn't mean you already have to be a fan. If the fans here tried to make their superhero into a film, most likely it would be a disaster. I'd rather get Ang Lee, someone who knows how to make a film than anyone who says they're a fan of the material but makes a ****** film.

[Norm3]

I loved what Lee did in the Hulk. But that's subjective. I can understand people's dislike for that film.

But you're basing your point off of one filmmaker. Nolan, Singer, Donner, hell, Abrams wasn't really into Star Trek before directing it. And most of the actors in comic book films never read a comic book in their lives prior to being cast. But the good ones read the comics and understood what it took to make a great film. And that doesn't mean you already have to be a fan. If the fans here tried to make their superhero into a film, most likely it would be a disaster. I'd rather get Ang Lee, someone who knows how to make a film than anyone who says they're a fan of the material but makes a ****** film.
I meant LL as well. They made changes that weren't necessary. Which proved to me they didn't understand the character from the CB or how important canon was to the fans.

[JeetKuneDo]

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Of course if these work, we'll all be rich and this board will explode due to all of us having too much spare time on our hands. ;)

[The Question]

I didn't mind the announcent of Mark Ruffalo as the new Bruce Banner for one reason: It confirms that Bruce Banner is in the movie. Yeah, I would have preferred Norton, but a recast is better than not having the Hulk in the movie. And on a side note...

Christ! I REALLY hope they don't go the "Banner in control of the Hulk" route. It skips past the whole dichotomy that makes the character awesome.

"Banner in control of the Hulk" is just another way saying "Super-strong Banner." And Strong Banner isn't the Hulk. Not even close. At all. Seriously. What if they cured Banner of the Hulk, and then injected him with some serum that gave him super strength? Bam! Super-strong Banner! Now we can rename the book and everything!

A little in control isn't too bad (and it's pretty much the status quo in the comics). Just enough sub-concious control to reign the beast in and keep it from being completely animalistic. And Super-strong Banner can be an interesting storyline for a little while, but not for a movie. Unless it's something like Banner is in control for a little while and then Hulk gets all pissed off and comes out all extra-mad and smashy and stuff.

Basically, I think Banner in control of the Hulk makes about as much sense (and is just as exciting) as Hawkeye in control of Captain America. And that's laaaaaaaaaaaame!

Like what if Doctor Doom did some whacked out mumbo jumbo and switched Hawkeye's and Captain America's minds? So now Clint Barton is stuck in Captain America's body. Is that Captain America? Hell NO, it's not Captain America. It's Clint Barton in Cap's body...duh!

Or what about all those times that Loki or the Stranger or the Collector or whatever crazy cosmic character took control of Hulk and made him do bad things and kick puppies or something like that? Would you blame Hulk for those things? Was that Hulk? Hell NO, it's not Hulk. It's the Stranger in Hulk's body...duh!

I don't even know if that makes sense, but I imagine that if I said it on the Jerry Springer show the audience would go wild.

I agree with some parts and disagree with others. While I do think that Banner shouldn't be in total control in The Avengers' film, because that would suck out all the drama, I have nothing against Banner being in control in theory. I don't think he's inherently better with the Bruce Banner/Savage Hulk duality, and I think as a concept it shouldn't have lasted as long as it has. The Hulk is a great basic concept, but what kept the story going was change and innovation. Banner developing as a character and coming to grips with his inner demons and mental health problems as they also developed and grew worse or better over time. I think the most brilliant thing they ever did was having Bruce be cured of his instability and gain complete control over his powers and a more confident and whole personality during the "Professor Hulk" storyline. And while I think that his having a relapse every now and then wasn't a bad idea, I think that bringing him back to the realm of the Savage Hulk entirely was a major step backwards for his character. I think the fact that The Hulk has gotten a lot more calm and intelligent, and the only sign of his DID is that he thinks of both selves as separate and occasionally talks to himself, is a good step in the right direction.

[terry78]

Professor Hulk basically had Banner's intelligence and ingenuity, and Hulk's impulsiveness and roughousing demeanor. He could be discussing quantum physics one minute, then fighting someone and calling them some of the crudest names ever the next.

[The Question]

Professor Hulk basically had Banner's intelligence and ingenuity, and Hulk's impulsiveness and roughousing demeanor. He could be discussing quantum physics one minute, then fighting someone and calling them some of the crudest names ever the next.

I liked that. It was a broken man piecing together his identity into a cohesive whole. I dug that. And while I like the idea of him relapsing into his Savage Hulk ways, as relapse is often pretty likely for mental illness this serious, especially if one is under stress, the way it happened and the reason it it happened was making him the Savage Hulk again to placate people who didn't want it to change ever.

[Gamma Goliath]

i want a green scar type personality. much like how hulk was portrayed in the planet hulk animated movie.

[Doctor Jones]

I meant LL as well. They made changes that weren't necessary. Which proved to me they didn't understand the character from the CB or how important canon was to the fans.

But you seemed to also be generalizing, which was what I was trying to explain in my post. What you said that the director should be a fan of the source material is narrow minded. They don't have to be.

[Norm3]

I want to see the Hulk evolve over time because of his experiments on himself. I think Marvel will wait on that for many years. Even though my favorite Hulk will always be what everybody seems to be term him the Savage Hulk. I would love to see a movie where he's Hulk with Banners brain but the threat is so bad he needs to convert himself back to Savage Hulk.

[Whiskey Tango]

I would watch the hell out of a Professor Hulk movie. Especially if they could manage the feel of Peter David's run on the comic.

[Rock Sexton]

The Hulk to the average Joe is some rampaging, all-powerful green giant. Depicting him on screen as a Professor would be laughable IMO. CGI costs alone are the reason you'll never get that. They use banner to generate that aspect.

[Whiskey Tango]

Oh ye of little faith.

http://i38.tinypic.com/212a32q.gif

Box office GOLD, I tell ya.

[afan]

Banner is angered and becomes The Hulk, now at that point we don't necessarily have a being that is nothing more than a mindless raging creature, if he is able to quickly resolve the source of the anger that triggered the transformation, The Hulk would actually be somewhat rational, all-be-it on a very basic level, and that is due to Banner's "control". This is the opportunity and the scenario for a vocally communicating Hulk. Of course after a time the lack of any antagonistic stimuli will trigger the transformation back to Banner.

The Hulk certainly beleives himself to be seperate from Banner, but as we know Banner is definitely part of The Hulk's psyche, however once The Hulk appears, he has a very very short tolerance for even the most trivial annoyance, and if the annoyance escalates to an out and out battle, The Hulk can indeed become a raging mindless beast. This is the element that signals to the audience the increase in his strength, not a growth of body mass, but an increase in his savage brutality.

[jadejaws]

just so everyone remembers....

thanks to art teacher for the wonderful concept.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h294/lox450/JadeJaws112.jpg

[Cracker Jack]

just so everyone remembers....

thanks to art teacher for the wonderful concept.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h294/lox450/JadeJaws112.jpg

QFT

Hey JJ how's it hanging.

[jadejaws]

QFT

Hey JJ how's it hanging.

Doing good man!...how you been? I miss "the space".

[JeetKuneDo]

just so everyone remembers....

thanks to art teacher for the wonderful concept.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h294/lox450/JadeJaws112.jpg
Best looking Hulk ever. Not all "veiny" and "ripped".

[TikkiEXX]

i actually prefer Savage Hulk. smart Hulk is cool too but if i had to pick only one it,d probably be the Savage version. i also dig Skaar and Hiro-Kala(the sons of Hulk). wonder if theyll ever pop up in a Marvel flick. seriously doubt it tho.

[Silver Knight]

I still think Hulk will look very different and will have short hair.

[First Avenger]

I still think Hulk will look very different and will have short hair.


Nah I don't think,it's in the same continuity as TIH,even if Banner has changed Hulk will be the same.maybe he'll have short hair,but I like him with long hair more,to me it feels more like a 'savage' creature.

[Silver Knight]

Nah I don't think,it's in the same continuity as TIH,even if Banner has changed Hulk will be the same.maybe he'll have short hair,but I like him with long hair more,to me it feels more like a 'savage' creature.

Im not so sure.

We have yet to see Hulk with short hair on the big screen.

[First Avenger]

Im not so sure.

We have yet to see Hulk with short hair on the big screen.


I remember back in 2008 an interview with Rhythm and Hues,the studio that made TIH's Hulk model,saying that their CGI model was ready to be used in the Avengers if Hulk was in the movie,so that they would just make animations to that model.creating a completely new Hulk would be a waste of money at this point.

[First Avenger]

http://www.newsarama.com/film/081009-hulk-special-effects.html

Here's the article.

[Gamma Goliath]

Welcome to the hype first avenger

[jadejaws]

I still think Hulk will look very different and will have short hair.

Man I hope you're wrong.....my interest in the film would be next to nothing at that point.

but I completely see how you'd think that.

[Silver Knight]

Man I hope you're wrong.....my interest in the film would be next to nothing at that point.

but I completely see how you'd think that.

Yeah true.. I guess we will find out in about a year or so.

[First Avenger]

Welcome to the hype first avenger

Thank you very much!:yay:

[First Avenger]

I still think that creating a new Hulk would be a waste of money,considering TIH's model is ready since 2008,the only thing they should do is tweaking the CGI that's all.

[Golgo-13]

More like IMPROVE the cgi. I hope in either Thor or CA we get a Hulk cameo; it'll be a nice way of introducing Ruffalo as Banner.

[ArtTeacher]

I still think it creating a new Hulk would be a waste of money,considering TIH's model is ready since 2008

Agreed.
See here for a pic that sums it all up:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=18599289#post18599289

[Ipodman]

More like IMPROVE the cgi. I hope in either Thor or CA we get a Hulk cameo; it'll be a nice way of introducing Ruffalo as Banner.


I hope they dont crowd the solo movies with all these avengers stuff...

Hawkeye most probably appears in Thor

I wonder why Banner has been cast so early...

[First Avenger]

Agreed.
See here for a pic that sums it all up:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=18599289#post18599289

Yeah,that's absolutely perfect design for me.

[Gamma Goliath]

They shouldn't fix what ain't broke.

[First Avenger]

http://i6.tinypic.com/8c1rejo.jpg

The only thing I could accept would be making him a little more like this.

[Gamma Goliath]

Ive loved that pic since the first day it was leaked onto the internet.

[First Avenger]

Yes,TIH's Hulk looks a little younger and has a more 'human' face,but IMO was still spot on.

[Gamma Goliath]

Absolutely.
I'm excited to see how everything shapes up with hulk.

[Gamma Goliath]

Double post.

[First Avenger]

I trust in Whedon to make him an actual character too,I was happy with what they did in TIH,and seeing as Banner has more control(at least when it comes to transforming into the Hulk)he could have a personality more ala Planet Hulk-WWH,imagine Hulk and Thor talking just before smashing each other...one can dream...

[HUMANIMAL]

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8995/markhulk.gif (http://img132.imageshack.us/i/markhulk.gif/)

[wobbly]

http://i6.tinypic.com/8c1rejo.jpg

The only thing I could accept would be making him a little more like this.

It was a bit of a shame they didn't stick with this in TIH (the closest thing I've seen to the 'classic' Hulk I grew up with). They kept fairly close to it but toned it down enough to take that more 'primal' look out of it (face a little narrower, made the nose longer, mouth smaller, eyes lighter, etc).

If they were to tweak it to this I'd be a happy bunny.

[First Avenger]

Yes it was a humanized version of this concept,that is pure Sal Buscema's Hulk come to life.

[Boom]

I want this.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rzdB5a4kLAo/SFmusROaiAI/AAAAAAAAHF0/qY1jZwt6Z3w/s1600/Hulk4.jpg

[Gamma Goliath]

Needs more green. And there is something about the grill on that dude that seems 'off'.
But it does remind me of Ruffalo for some reason.

[Michellemabelle]

Dude's got Busey teeth...

[Matt Mortem]

gary busey should be the Hulk

[Michellemabelle]

He at least has the experience for it.

[ArtTeacher]

I want this.

Both are designs by Aaron Sims and I believe one is supposed to be just the angry expression of the other (color, notwithstanding).

[Doctor Jones]

That Hulk design is way too much. He looks evil. Bad vibes man.

[Gamma Goliath]

Green one is much better

[Doctor Jones]

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see a Hulk you would want to hug, but that Hulk goes too far. It's pretty scary to look at.

[Pac-Master]

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8995/markhulk.gif (http://img132.imageshack.us/i/markhulk.gif/)
Cool!

[Gamma Goliath]

I hope marks hair will be longer than that, and slightly more brown.

[KangConquers]

I wonder why Banner has been cast so early...

Because Avengers has to shoot next February.

Would you really rather have a repeat of the Captain America fiasco?

[Doctor Jones]

That was hell.

[Superhero 101]

after seeing The Kids are All right i think Ruffallo will do a good job as Bruce Banner

[KangConquers]

That was hell.

So many horrible choices; so drawn out. That was the most painful casting process for me yet.

[Doctor Jones]

Not as bad as Superman. But yeah, still bad. I mean Mark Valley. A 40 something TV actor who was in the military automatically qualifies to be the perfect Cap. Pfft.

[Blackman]

The worst part of Cap casting was the whole John Krasinski/"real man" arguement for those weeks

But still no where near as bad as Superman casting

[Michellemabelle]

I recall that. Hearing Channing Tatum suggested at one point got my bowels churning. Krasinski was another odd choice.

[Norm3]

The worst part of Cap casting was the whole John Krasinski/"real man" arguement for those weeks
Yea what a joke.

[Whiskey Tango]

At least Krasinski is a real actor though. When Channing Tatum's name started popping up I thought the whole world had gone mad.

[Sawyer]

Yeah anyone who thinks that the suggestion of Krasinski is worse than Tatum must be touched in the head.

[JeetKuneDo]

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see a Hulk you would want to hug, but that Hulk goes too far. It's pretty scary to look at.

Agreed. The Hulk's look should allow him to be more than just a raging beast. While the anger part is very cool, that look would fence him into only that.

Cool!

That was freaking cool. Ruffalo looks more "Hulky" than I thought....maybe the best one yet.

[terry78]

Yeah, that one kind of makes him look like a buff Grinch.

[afan]

That Hulk design is way too much. He looks evil. Bad vibes man.

I could see that as an extremely angry Hulk. IMO his face should be the indication of his increasing levels of anger, savagery and consequentially.... strength. At a certain point the Hulk's rage becomes so consuming that he is a "mindless beast" dangerous to all.

[Chewy]

We're getting another solo Hulk movie!

http://www.bamkapow.com/-halka-movie-trailer-4755-p.html

:awesome:

[Obi-Ron]

:dry:

[Chris Wallace]

Because Avengers has to shoot next February.

Would you really rather have a repeat of the Captain America fiasco?
Which fiasco would that be?

[Doctor Jones]

The worst part of Cap casting was the whole John Krasinski/"real man" arguement for those weeks

But still no where near as bad as Superman casting

I supported Krasinksi. :o Like others said, I would take him over Channing Tatum any day of the week. If Tatum was cast my hope for that movie would have just dropped into the abyss with no chance of coming back up.

[Pac-Master]

We're getting another solo Hulk movie!

http://www.bamkapow.com/-halka-movie-trailer-4755-p.html

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I give you the award for "The Person Who Has Gotten Pac's Hopes Up and Sent Them Crashing To The Ground The Quickest".

[sabetoonth]

I want this.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rzdB5a4kLAo/SFmusROaiAI/AAAAAAAAHF0/qY1jZwt6Z3w/s1600/Hulk4.jpg
I like this coloration for grey hulk, but design wise, yeesh, no thanks

[First Avenger]

^That is Mike Deodato's Hulk to me,but it's too scary and doesn't look like he can make heroic actions like Hulk should.

[sabetoonth]

Yea, he looks more villain then hero

[Kirmit]

After reading the article on the front page about Whedon using elements from the ultimates in the movie, I'm really really hoping one of those elements isn't ultimate hulk, if it is I doubt I'll go see The Avengers.

[terry78]

I think he's enough of a geek to realize the hate for that version.

[Dark Raven]

I want this.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rzdB5a4kLAo/SFmusROaiAI/AAAAAAAAHF0/qY1jZwt6Z3w/s1600/Hulk4.jpg

No thanks. He looks more of a demon Hulk if anything.

[Norm3]

After reading the article on the front page about Whedon using elements from the ultimates in the movie, I'm really really hoping one of those elements isn't ultimate hulk, if it is I doubt I'll go see The Avengers.
He would have to be a fool to do that.

[Gamma Goliath]

I think he knows better.

[DaddyGrayson]

After reading the article on the front page about Whedon using elements from the ultimates in the movie, I'm really really hoping one of those elements isn't ultimate hulk, if it is I doubt I'll go see The Avengers.

If I had to guess, judging from Jeremy Renner's interview like a year ago, the elements they are taking from Ultimates is going to be Hawkeye. Besides, this has continuity with TIH, which was not Ultimate Hulk.

[ironman29758]

If I had to guess, judging from Jeremy Renner's interview like a year ago, the elements they are taking from Ultimates is going to be Hawkeye. Besides, this has continuity with TIH, which was not Ultimate Hulk.
it did take elements from the ultimate hulk like tying the origin of the Hulk to the super soldier serum for example as well as tv David Banner hulk and 616 Hulk

[Gamma Goliath]

I think he ment hulks behavior and actions didnt draw from ultimate hulk.

[BigSams50]

I want this.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rzdB5a4kLAo/SFmusROaiAI/AAAAAAAAHF0/qY1jZwt6Z3w/s1600/Hulk4.jpg

:wow: IDK y but i love this design. I hope they go with something like this for the film

[Sarg92]

I've kind of got an idea of what Ultimate Hulk is like but is the Ultimate Banner character like?

If Whedon is using ideas from the Ultimate characterisation then it may be Banner that is portrayed differently.

[Gamma Goliath]

I just hope banner feels like banner.

[terry78]

Ultimate Banner is the same as all the other Ultimate characters...an *******. But he's a real weasely *******.

[Gamma Goliath]

Id hoped to see banner portrayed 616 style. I like the way he done in the 90s TIHAS.

[HUMANIMAL]

i think its more the modern look they use from ultimates, so the costumes can be translated a bit better on film. I would say they make em as likely as possible for everyone so no ultimates for characterization i guess;-)

[HUMANIMAL]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rzdB5a4kLAo/SFmusROaiAI/AAAAAAAAHF0/qY1jZwt6Z3w/s1600/Hulk4.jpg

i like this concept very beastie :word: but to me the hulk always had something naive yet child looking when he is not in full rage...not like in ang lees hulk;-) i think the incredible hulk nailed the look except for one expression:http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1259/incrediblehulk1.jpg (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/incrediblehulk1.jpg/)

the hulk i know best is the one i was growing up with...drawn by sal buscema:
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1083/hulk2270pic4.gif (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/hulk2270pic4.gif/)

i also enjoyed this type of hulk: http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4782/matricul13.jpg (http://img641.imageshack.us/i/matricul13.jpg/)


but please no slim long hair or very short haired hulk:-(
i mean this haircut....
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1548/ultimatewolverinevshulk.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/ultimatewolverinevshulk.jpg/)

[Gamma Goliath]

TIH is the only hulk design that should show up in avengers, just update the vfx and were set.

[Kirmit]

TIH is the only hulk design that should show up in avengers, just update the vfx and were set.

Agreed, a few minor changes and IMO we have the perfect hulk.

[The Hulk]

TIH is the only hulk design that should show up in avengers, just update the vfx and were set.

Personally I think they nailed the face of hulk, most of the time (close up in the bottle plant was perfect) however I feel Hulk should be a little shorter, and needs to bulk up. I didnt like the idea that in the 2008 film Banner was skinny from lack of decent food and being on the run (louie's words) and the transfered into Hulk which is why he was really sinewy and no so overly muscular (compared to comic). Hulk in this fils needs to bulk up heaps and not only that, make him actually speak for crying out loud! How hard is it??

[Gamma Goliath]

I think hulks size was perfect height and muscle mass. 9 ft. tall 1200 lbs.

[Sarg92]

Anyone reckon that Banner could be portrayed and written differently to that of TIH?

Feige said that Banner in The Avengers is gonna be Whedon's Banner. Whedon says that his Banner just wants to be left alone to do his lab work.

The lab work stuff isn't too different from TIH but I think there may be some changes in character.

[Norm3]

Personally I think they nailed the face of hulk, most of the time (close up in the bottle plant was perfect) however I feel Hulk should be a little shorter, and needs to bulk up. I didnt like the idea that in the 2008 film Banner was skinny from lack of decent food and being on the run (louie's words) and the transfered into Hulk which is why he was really sinewy and no so overly muscular (compared to comic). Hulk in this fils needs to bulk up heaps and not only that, make him actually speak for crying out loud! How hard is it?? I agree make him 8ft max.

http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo70/Legion1937/hulktoobig23.jpg

[Norm3]

Anyone reckon that Banner could be portrayed and written differently to that of TIH?

Feige said that Banner in The Avengers is gonna be Whedon's Banner. Whedon says that his Banner just wants to be left alone to do his lab work.

The lab work stuff isn't too different from TIH but I think there may be some changes in character. Maybe they lure Banner by stating they will help him cure himself of the Hulk.

[wobbly]

I don't think they will be major changes. TIH is part of the continuity leading to Avengers so it would mess that up if they do anything too major.

How Shield persuade Banner to join them is anyone's guess. The promise of a cure might be used but remember the final shot of Norton smiling as he apparently willed on an impending change in TIH.

I hope Whedon remembers that as well and uses it. Might finally get a talking Hulk if he does.

[jadejaws]

i like this concept very beastie :word: but to me the hulk always had something naive yet child looking when he is not in full rage...not like in ang lees hulk;-) i think the incredible hulk nailed the look except for one expression:http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1259/incrediblehulk1.jpg (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/incrediblehulk1.jpg/)

the hulk i know best is the one i was growing up with...drawn by sal buscema:
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1083/hulk2270pic4.gif (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/hulk2270pic4.gif/)

i also enjoyed this type of hulk: http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4782/matricul13.jpg (http://img641.imageshack.us/i/matricul13.jpg/)


but please no slim long hair or very short haired hulk:-(
i mean this haircut....
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1548/ultimatewolverinevshulk.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/ultimatewolverinevshulk.jpg/)

Does anyone know how (or would be willing) to start a petition regarding this subject? We need to make sure that "high and tight hair Hulk" never sees a cinematic debut.

[Norm3]

Did Banner ever have High & tight hair cuts? If not how the heck did the Hulk get that cut? I know he didn't in the 60s-early 90s when I read him.

[jadejaws]

Did Banner ever have High & tight hair cuts? If not how the heck did the Hulk get that cut? I know he didn't in the 60s-early 90s when I read him.

No he didn't.....the artist who started that crap should be punished.

[Gamma Goliath]

Can anybody post that concept art from TIH of all the different hulks they designed?

[Dark Raven]

Did Banner ever have High & tight hair cuts? If not how the heck did the Hulk get that cut? I know he didn't in the 60s-early 90s when I read him.

When he turns into the Hulk, he gains an excessive amount of back head skin (or maybe neck) that it pushes his back hairline upwards to the top of his head. When he changes back, it shrinks back down again. :cwink:

[jadejaws]

When he turns into the Hulk, he gains an excessive amount of back head skin (or maybe neck) that it pushes his back hairline upwards to the top of his head. When he changes back, it shrinks back down again. :cwink:

I think the above post was made in jest.....but, the Hulk should technically have longer hair than Banner. Taking into consideration that everything else grows.

[Dark Raven]

I think the above post was made in jest.....but, the Hulk should technically have longer hair than Banner. Taking into consideration that everyone else grows.

It did grow the right way back in the 70s and early 80s with the classic Sal Buscema Hulk. That was the right way to depict the Hulk's hair. Best Hulk ever IMO.

[Sarg92]

Can anybody post that concept art from TIH of all the different hulks they designed?

http://www.aaron-sims.com/portfolio_character_creatures_renders.php#id=album-5&num=content-71

Scroll through the thumbnails a couple of times to get to the TIH concept art.

[Dark Raven]

Although it's too late, I think that John Cussack could've been a worthy replacement for Ed Norton. He would've been in the same vein and not too visually different from Norton to be as jarring as Mark Ruffalo.

[Norm3]

Although it's too late, I think that John Cussack could've been a worthy replacement for Ed Norton. He would've been in the same vein and not too visually different from Norton to be as jarring as Mark Ruffalo. I think Johns a little too tall. Like Bana.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Looking forward to seeing our boy The Hulk again next year, still gutted Norton isnt coming back and really hope they dont change the design of the Hulk too much from TIH otherwise it wont feel in continuity.

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