Edgar Wright's Ant-Man

[The Avatar]

what happened to this project? is it still happening? will it coincide with the avengers? any news at all?

[Rac]

Wright is currently filming Scott Pilgrim. After that, maybe, he and Marvel start the production on Ant-Man.

I think this is still the latest news: http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2008/06/writer-of-antman-comicbook-mov.html

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EDIT: Ah, this is newer (July 2008. the other one was June 2008): http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=7525

CS: The interesting thing about "Ant-Man" is that after "Iron Man" opened so big, there was this huge Marvel Studios bells and whistles announcement of their movies for the next three years and "Ant-Man" wasn't mentioned.
Wright: I think having spoken to Kevin Feige, the "Ant-Man" film I have in mind is a bit more stand-alone, and that's kind of what I wanted to do in a way. I think my take on it is something that may or may not fit into what "The Avengers" would eventually do, but they're very keen on it and they've even talked a release date with me in very vague terms. It looks likely that I will do "Scott Pilgrim" next and then "Ant-Man" straight afterwards.

[[A]]

it could be a nice little movie

[Spidey-Quad]

... as long as they keep it "short" ;)

[Chewy]

I have a feeling that this is going to be a movie where the schedule dictates the release date, rather than the other way around

[Hypestyle]

well.. as long as it's not rushed and bungled... I hope it will be considered within the current 'marvel-studios-universe'...

[TheVileOne]

Hmm I dunno. That sounds very much like wishful thinking on Wright's part.

I'm totally psyched about Scott Pilgrim. But didn't Wright make some sort of picture deal that would also mean his third Pegg/Frost flick as well that they are planning?

[Threshold]

Paul Rudd 4 Pym!

[DarkSovereignty]

seeing as how its Edgar wright, i wana see simon pegg in some capacity, maybe like a bruce cambell/ spiderman style cameo

[Chewy]

Jason Bateman as Hank Pym
Simon Pegg as Scott Lang

[DarkSovereignty]

just a question, what kind of villains does ant-man have? I've never really read any of the pym or lang comics, (just an issue of irredeemable ant-man where he has his ex-sheild partner knock him around from the inside.) so what kind protagonists could we expect to see should this film get made?

[Chewy]

I believe Wright said that there weren't any villains in his script, and that it was going to be about Lang stealing Pym's Ant-Man helmet.

[The Major]

just a question, what kind of villains does ant-man have? I've never really read any of the pym or lang comics, (just an issue of irredeemable ant-man where he has his ex-sheild partner knock him around from the inside.) so what kind protagonists could we expect to see should this film get made?
Ultron is his arch-enemy. :word:

[DarkSovereignty]

sweet lol, thanks

[MaskedManJRK]

just a question, what kind of villains does ant-man have? I've never really read any of the pym or lang comics, (just an issue of irredeemable ant-man where he has his ex-sheild partner knock him around from the inside.) so what kind protagonists could we expect to see should this film get made?

For Pym? Himself, really. He's one psychotic little dude, when you get to the thick of it. Don't really know much about Lang.

Over-all--if Wright does it, I'd be interested. If not--eh, I'll wait until it comes out on cable.

[Leenie]

I was never really psyched about an Ant-Man movie (c'mon, even SNL recognized the lameness!) ... But if Edgar Wright is the director, then I'll be very excited for it!

[Deaths Head II]

I'm actually not digging Wright's supposed approach with this. Scott Lang was really nothing for me but a 70s-80s fill in. I would prefer a whole film about Pym against someone like Ultron.

[Red Mask]

I'd prefer they keep it more of an adventure story than the usual origin approach.

[Alastor]

Never been a huge fan on Ant-Man, but I have loved everything Wright has done, from Spaced to Hot Fuzz, so I would see this film in theaters.

[Deaths Head II]

I'd prefer they keep it more of an adventure story than the usual origin approach.

I agree. Ant-Man would feel appropriate as an adventure story about a man with the power to shrink himself to the size of an ant.

[The Geek Vault]

I really can't wait for this film to happen! It seems like it will be an interesting approach to a superhero film

[Venomfan]

since he's apparently too old for Green Lantern, would Nathon Fillion work for Pym?

[Gabe99]

From Comic Book Movie: Pixar Interested in Making Marvel's Ant-Man Movie (http://www.**************.com/ant-man/news/?a=9800)

Hey, now here's some promising news about the Disney/Marvel merger! According to EW, Pixar has expressed interest to their Disney masters that they would like to make Marvel's Ant-Man movie

I got my Entertainment Weekly Magazine today, and there it was on page 23...

Marvel has thousands of characters to feed Disney's film, TV, and animation business (Pixar is said to already be eyeballing an Ant-Man movie). As Iron Man proved, they don't need to be iconic to become blockbusters.

Ant-Man does seem right down Pixar's alley, although audiences might be a little tired of all the tiny characters they've already done (Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Finding Nemo). Let's just hope that they don't rehash another Disney movie and call it Honey, I Shrunk Myself.

From Screen Rant:
Pixar To Produce Marvel’s Ant-Man? (http://screenrant.com/antman-movie-pixar-cast-rob-24416/)

From CinemaBlend:
Pixar Making Ant-Man? (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Pixar-Making-Ant-Man-14657.html)

From Bleeding Cool:
Would Pixar Make Edgar Wright’s Ant Man? (http://zone.aintitcool.com/posting.php?mode=reply&f=2&t=6048)

[Eldarion]

Now an animated movie would just be perfect. A live-action is very unlikely, he is good as a side-kick for the 4 Main Avengers, so perhaps a little introduction in The Avenger movie, but he can't bear a movie on itself. They should evolve his personality throughout the Avenger movie and possible sequels. We don't even now if Thor or Captain America are going to be a succes; it probably will ,but a superhero that can make himself grow till 100 feet and communicate with ants. I don't think there's a big target audience/market for it. Make an animation movie (Direct-to-dvd or maybe a couple weeks in the cinema) based on the live-action script, less budget needed and probably more chance of succes.

[FaT_tONle]

Bah... he is going to have to show up in live action eventually? His solo movie should NOT be animation... unless they make it after all his live action appearances, or at least the first couple of live action appearances.

[Rac]

I wonder how Edgar's gonna feel about that.

[Ceb-Man]

I would love to see Pixar Ant-Man movie. Although, I am very interested in Edgar Wright's live action movie as well. It seems though Wright's movie has been dragging it's feet with his other projects.

[Sawyer]

Well, you guys know that John Carter of Mars is being done by Pixar, right? Who's to say Edgar Wright's Ant-Man cant be done with Pixar as well?

[KangConquers]

This is great news.

Yes, I imagine it will be live action. Pixar's employees are not just animation enthusiasts; They are film enthusiasts. Given they're already planning a live action film, and have some sort of a working relationship with Wright,, why wouldn't they do his Ant-Man?

[david icke]

Edgar Wright has been talking about doing Ant-Man for years now, I always wondered whether he would ever get around to it. He's just done Scott Pilgrim, say that does well and he wants to do a sequel to that, never mind any other projects he's thinking about.
If he's still working for Pixar I think Brad Bird would be perfect for Ant-Man, he could do a very funny movie but still pull out the amazing comicbook action moments.
Maybe an Edgar Wright Ant-Man would be a little too self concious about the fact it was a superhero movie instead of just keeping it simple and smart. If he has been deliberating on it for this long maybe he hasn't got a grip yet on what kind of Ant-Man movie he wants to make.

[Ceb-Man]

Well, you guys know that John Carter of Mars is being done by Pixar, right? Who's to say Edgar Wright's Ant-Man cant be done with Pixar as well?

I forgot about that, so the Pixar version could be live action.

[terry78]

Yes, because nothing will scream Pixar family entertainment like Hank slapping the **** out of Janet Van Dyne. :o


:oldrazz:

[Chewy]

This week Entertainment Weekly ran some unsourced bit of fluff in their coverage of the Disney/Marvel deal that said something along the lines of 'Pixar already has their eye on Ant Man.' And of course everybody on the internet simply ran with it. But I knew that didn't sound right, not for the least reason being that Edgar Wright is working on that movie (or was, before Scott Pilgrim vs the World started up). So I dropped Edgar an email asking him to clear this up, and he sure did.

"I am still attached to Ant Man and indeed am still working on a second draft with Joe Cornish. That had to take a back seat while I worked on Scott Pilgrim, but am keen to get back into it once I get into post.

I just spoke to Kevin Feige for the first time since I wrapped and we are meeting this week to discuss the next phase. It's been something that I have worked on for over five years on and off. There's even a treatment I wrote that dates even further back than that.

It's true that the character is not considered one of the Marvel brand leaders and that is precisely what excites me about it. I want to make a film inside the Marvel Universe that is something a little different; a genre film within the superhero genre so to speak.

The news that Pixar is involved is not wholly accurate and a little premature to comment on. I love Pixar's work more than anyone and indeed would love to collaborate with them.

I'm not sure though that they would want to do a 'shrinking' film as a Pixar animation - since Toy Story and A Bug's Life already cover this territory to some extent. Am guessing that someone just speculated on the 'bug' angle and tried to put two and two together.

My spin on Ant Man is very different than a straight superhero origin - and very much live action.

At some point in this century, I intend to stop talking about it and make the damn thing."

There you have it.
SOURCE (http://chud.com/articles/articles/20730/1/PIXAR-ANT-MAN-NOT-SO-SAYS-EDGAR-WRIGHT/Page1.html)

[Rac]

Good.

[Chewy]

I had lunch with the cool , young director Edgar Wright (Shaun of the Dead) and, as you’d imagine, we had fun discussing the tiny herohttp://twitter.com/smilinstanlee/status/8869158262

Dinner last night with @edgarwright (http://twitter.com/edgarwright) on his home turf.http://twitter.com/Jon_Favreau/status/8803593323

Sounds like it's still a go

[Carlo Comicus]

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/02/09/stan-lee-claims-marvel-is-prepping-ant-man-movie/

[Spidey-Quad]

Man, reading the replies to the Super Hero Hype Main Page I can't believe the "hate" from DC fans. What did Henry Pym ever do to them? I hope this movie reaches it's potential cause it could really rock. As far as everyone bemoaning "Egg Head" as a villain. Nobody said it has to be him. Use someone else or make a new one. I would love to see Hank take on an enviromental enemy. Like Brand Corp. which A.I.M. is really behind. And as someone else mentioned, Imagine Hank making and ant human size and controlling it! Ant-Man can be huge with the right imaginative writing!

[Jordacar]

Latest entry in my ongoing series, Superheroes that need movies NOW: ANT MAN (http://www.examiner.com/x-27104-Denver-Comic-Books-Examiner~y2010m2d22-Superheroes-that-need-movies-NOW-Case-File-004-ANTMAN)
Yes, I’m actually serious.
http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID27104/images/resized_ant_man.JPG

The comic:
Henry Pym (http://marvel.com/universe/Yellowjacket_(Henry_Pym)) started out as just another wacky science hero who could shrink and talk to ants, but soon blossomed into one of the most complex characters in the Marvel U. He’s one of the founding Avengers (http://comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1263403706.jpg) (along with Iron Man and Thor) and he’s a top scientist with an intellect rivaling Tony Stark and Mr. Fantastic. Later on came Scott Lang (http://marvel.com/universe/Ant-Man_%28Scott_Lang%29), a good-natured ex-con who took up the Ant-Man identity after Pym abandoned it for other super-monikers.

The movie:
Of course, much of the above wouldn’t be covered in a solo movie. More likely, an origin story would be a light-hearted, effects-filled adventure focusing on Hank first discovering the Pym particles that allow him to shrink to ant-size or grow to giant-size at will, developing his patented gadgetry to communicate with ants, and meeting his future wife Janet Van Dyne, aka The Wasp (http://marvel.com/universe/Wasp) (another founding Avenger). There has also been talk of the film featuring both Hank Pym and Scott Lang.

Suggested director: Edgar Wright (Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz) is already all over this one, see below.

Could it happen?
Edgar Wright first talked about tackling the project way back in 2006 (http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=4566), but the project was put on hold when Wright instead made another comic-to-screen adaptation Scott Pilgrim vs. The World (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0446029/). With that film now in the can, it seems Wright has renewed his interest in the project, including meeting with Stan Lee (http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/02/09/stan-lee-claims-marvel-is-prepping-ant-man-movie/) and working on a new draft of the script (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/02/11/exclusive-edgar-wright-explains-his-ant-man-priorities/) with writer Joe Cornish.

Wright has explained that since the scientist-turned-superhero is not a priority tentpole, he and Marvel Entertainment’s Kevin Feige are focusing on getting a script that works before they consider filling out the Avengers roster. If Marvel decides to move on this, it could easily get made before the Avengers movie drops in Summer 2012, setting the stage for Ant-Man (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478970/) to join the Marvel movie pantheon alongside Iron Man (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1228705/), Captain America (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458339/), Thor (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0800369/) and Hulk (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0800080/).

[w00dy]

Yes, this is great news.

[FaT_tONle]

It won't make 2012. Unless they push Avengers back a year for this.

[Deaths Head II]

I think Avengers will end up being pushed back anyway. I could be wrong of course.

[conan69]

Im starting to sound like a broken record on this subject, but IMHO this movie should have been a priority once they decided they really wanted to make Avengers a reality.

It could have introduced Pym,involved with or working for SHIELD, Janet,Ultron as a form of primitive AI intelligence created by Pym, and prob another character like Hawkeye... well you have a great foundation for the Avengers movie right there!!

Hulk, Thor, Iron Man and CaptA singles films along with Antman... Youve introduced the audience to the characters and you wouldnt have to waste so much time setting up Avengers when that film finally comes around.

Antman really could have been the beginning of the Avengers story and IMHO has the potential to be a REALLY cool scifi movie.

[Jordacar]

I don't think they'd have to push Avengers back a year to make room for this. Ant-Man isn't Spider-Man. If they start filming this at the start of 2011, they could probably get it out by first quarter 2012, and it would make a nice prelude to Avengers.

[Deaths Head II]

They're not going to push back Avengers for this, but if Avengers comes out on the expected date set that they have now (the one set before the Thor or Cap films have been released), then I will be surprised. With a project this big and with so much to set up before the film comes out I really have a feeling the 2012 date is subject to change.

[conan69]

Agreed. Avengers will most likely be pushed back.

[Rac]

I don't think they'd have to push Avengers back a year to make room for this. Ant-Man isn't Spider-Man. If they start filming this at the start of 2011, they could probably get it out by first quarter 2012, and it would make a nice prelude to Avengers.
Yeah, this could easily be a spring release like Watchmen, 300, Clash of the Titans, Sin City etc.

[TheVileOne]

Honestly I think doing the big 3 as solo movies before Avengers makes more sense.

I mean I like Ant-Man at all, but this seems to be the right plan of action.

[Lord Blackbolt]

I think they should make a Antman movie...AFTER Avenger. Considering they seem to want to include the Scott Land Antman along with Hank in the script Edger talked about a while ago.

We see Hank in the Avengers...and in the Antman movie we see Scott get the powers.

[Rac]

"Nathan Fillion is pretty much locked to be Henry Pym, and should be announced before any other new additions to the cast (think around Comic Con)"
http://marvelousnews.com/index.php?catid=23&itemid=13134

Hmm?

[FaT_tONle]

Sounds like a load. Wheldon isn't even confirmed and Fillion already has the papers ready to play Pym? Wouldn't shock me but still...

[chiefchirpa]

With the name "Ant-Man" they should gear this to be a PG movie with a romantically failed young professor Henry Pym trying to woo his socialite neighbor Janet van Dyne. It's a love story with bugs and bio guns.

[DarkSovereignty]

i think it would be funny if the movie was about antman dealing with being lesser known than the likes of iron man and captain america, like he feelis inadequate and what not, and his nemesis for the movie could be like leap frog or something dealing with the same issues lol.

[GhostPoet]

i think it would be funny if the movie was about antman dealing with being lesser known than the likes of iron man and captain america, like he feelis inadequate and what not, and his nemesis for the movie could be like leap frog or something dealing with the same issues lol.

oooh, I like that!!

[marcvader]

Maybe now with Scott Pilgrim being out the ball will get rolling with Antman and we'll start getting news.

[DarkSovereignty]

oooh, I like that!!
hey thanx lol, i would love for wright to take the movie in that direction, with simon pegg in the role of either antman or leap frog.

[babykhris]

Edgar Wright has been working the promotion circuit very hard promoting Scott Pilgrim Vs The World. Everywhere he goes, the subject of Ant-Man, one of Marvel's next movies after Avengers, comes up. Wright is usually good as keeping the answers light and repeating the same mantra at every interview. Vanity Fair recently did a very nice interview with him focusing on Scott Pilgrim and video games but they were able to get a few new nuggets of info on Wright's future adaptation. Here is an excerpt from that interview:

Vanity Fair: You’ve been working on the comic book adaptation for a while. Is it ever actually going to happen?

Edgar Wright: I hope so, yeah. I’ve written a script, and once Scott Pilgrim is done I’m going to work on a second draft. It’s something I’ve been passionate about for awhile.

VF:Yeah, but ... Ant Man? Seriously? Isn’t he like Aqua Man with lower self-esteem?

EW:Not at all! I had a copy of the Tales to Astonish comic from the early 60s, which has his origin story. And I’ve been a fan ever since. I think it’s a really interesting high-concept idea.

VF:You’re an amazing director, Edgar, but I don’t know how this is going to work. I mean… Ant Man? The guy who becomes an ant? Isn’t that like trying to stop a mob boss with a box full of kittens?

EW:I know there’s a big stigma attached to it, mostly because every movie about shrinking has been about people in peril. I think it’d be great to do a shrinking film about a bad-ass secret agent.

VF:Okay, I see what you mean. I was thinking along the lines of Honey I Shrunk The Kids.

EW:Even something like The Incredible Shrinking Man, which is a fantastic film, is about a guy in trouble. But this is going to be nothing like that. It’s essentially a high-tech spy heist film with somebody with a very particular power.

VF:The awesome power ... of an ant!

EW:Trust me, it’ll be much cooler than you think.

http://www.**************.com/fansites/TheDogPound/news/?a=21489&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[TimBisley]

I trust Wright to deliver an awesome movie. He has yet to disappoint me.

[Randal Graves]

I can't wait for this.

[The Avatar]

EW:I know there’s a big stigma attached to it, mostly because every movie about shrinking has been about people in peril. I think it’d be great to do a shrinking film about a bad-ass secret agent.

VF:Okay, I see what you mean. I was thinking along the lines of Honey I Shrunk The Kids.

EW:Even something like The Incredible Shrinking Man, which is a fantastic film, is about a guy in trouble. But this is going to be nothing like that. It’s essentially a high-tech spy heist film with somebody with a very particular power.

VF:The awesome power ... of an ant!

EW:Trust me, it’ll be much cooler than you think.

http://www.**************.com/fansites/TheDogPound/news/?a=21489&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter That sounds very cool, and ideal for Marvel Studios movie-verse. I can't wait for this. I hope Pilgrim's poor opening box office doesn't deter Edgar Wright or the studio.

[marcvader]

I think Wright genuinely gets Antman and will do him justice. Another thing you have to remember is that this is still a Marvel production and will fit the larger universe in some way. I'm looking forward to it.

[Octoberist]

I don't know what Marvel is doing with it. When is the release date?

[tecnowraith]

Was Henry Prym ever a secret agent in the comics? I only know him as a scientist from some of the issuses I read the cartton episode of Avengers I watched.

[Daredevil]

lol they shouldnt call the movie Ant Man IMO. No one is going to randomly see a movie named Ant Man. Unless Scott Lang is Ant Man in it. If Hank Pym Ant Man is in it then they should name it "Pym" or something like that xD

[marcvader]

I don't know what Marvel is doing with it. When is the release date?

No one knows really. I'm guessing 2012-13.

[Blackman]

Adrien Brody wouldnt mind being Ant-Man:
“I haven’t been involved in any of those discussions – I have mentioned it to my reps who have been kind of covert about their response as well, which is very strange to me. I said ‘Is there any validity to this, what is this?’ and they said ‘Well…it’s too early to say.’ It was very strange and I kind of dropped it at that…Not everything that is bandied around the Internet is factual, but sometimes there are elements that do stem from truth that people who are in the middle of it aren’t aware of either. We’ll see.”

“I’m enthusiastic about it. The key is to constantly push the boundaries and to find things that allow me to be creative and do things that, you know, I enjoy and grow from.”Source: http://screenrant.com/adrien-brody-ant-man-kofi-82174/

I would prefer him as Dr. Strange, mostly because I dont care about Ant Man at all. But hes a good actor and wouldnt mind seeing him in the role

[GL1]

With the name "Ant-Man" they should gear this to be a PG movie with a romantically failed young professor Henry Pym trying to woo his socialite neighbor Janet van Dyne. It's a love story with bugs and bio guns.

^This. The only thing that the IP brings to the table that's not brought better by Iron Man or Hulk is the romantic angle. Ant-Man has glorious potential as a romantic action-comedy. This "secret agent heist" thing is silly, and does not show that Edgar Wright "gets" Ant-Man. Hank Pym certainly wasn't one in the comics, nor is Scott Lang more known to the general audience.

[cerealkiller182]

It might not be the comics but I sure as **** would rather see a shrinking spy heist flick than a PG romantic comedy, especially if they are ultimately going to push it as an Avengers tie in

[Octoberist]

I have a feeling that Edgar is probably going to move on from this, and do another British indie flick. Who knows, but just a feeling..

[marcvader]

Yeah I'm thinking the same thing. I think his plans for Ant Man are not in alignment with Marvel's.

[Spidey-Quad]

I like Wright, but I'm beginning to feel the same as you guys, and you know it might be a good thing.

He takes sooo long on a project, I think I'd be dead before it came out. He knew years ago he needed a re-write.

WTH, he can''t walk and chew gum at the same time? How do they say it in English?

"Mate, time to pinch one or get off the Johhny!"

[Dark Raven]

I wouldn't mind if we lost Edgar Wright and we got Ant Man and Wasp in the Avengers movie instead. He's taking too long. Scott Pilgrim seems to have been in development and then production for years. It seems to be Wright who is preventing Hank and Jan from being in the Avengers movie. He could've revised his original vision from an origin story to something else (or had a flashback to the origin) and allowed it to fit in with the team movie instead of getting his movie done the way he wants it at all costs. Wasn't it Colin Powell who said: "A good idea today is better than a great idea tomorrow"? Even if he produces a stunning Ant Man flick in 5 or 10 years time, it's going to be out of alignment with the current Avengers-connected films, so it will be in vain and won't matter in the end.

[DarkSovereignty]

i think the reason it takes so long for him, specifically scott pilgrim, was getting funding, plus the enormous amount trick editing he employs in his movies, which probably takes a while since he likes to do it himself.

[GL1]

I wouldn't mind if we lost Edgar Wright and we got Ant Man and Wasp in the Avengers movie instead. He's taking too long. Scott Pilgrim seems to have been in development and then production for years. It seems to be Wright who is preventing Hank and Jan from being in the Avengers movie. He could've revised his original vision from an origin story to something else (or had a flashback to the origin) and allowed it to fit in with the team movie instead of getting his movie done the way he wants it at all costs. Wasn't it Colin Powell who said: "A good idea today is better than a great idea tomorrow"? Even if he produces a stunning Ant Man flick in 5 or 10 years time, it's going to be out of alignment with the current Avengers-connected films, so it will be in vain and won't matter in the end.

Not preventing, prevented. The Avengers are already in pre-production and Ant-Man is not in it.

[Son of Coul]

I wouldn't mind if we lost Edgar Wright and we got Ant Man and Wasp in the Avengers movie instead. He's taking too long. Scott Pilgrim seems to have been in development and then production for years. It seems to be Wright who is preventing Hank and Jan from being in the Avengers movie. He could've revised his original vision from an origin story to something else (or had a flashback to the origin) and allowed it to fit in with the team movie instead of getting his movie done the way he wants it at all costs. Wasn't it Colin Powell who said: "A good idea today is better than a great idea tomorrow"? Even if he produces a stunning Ant Man flick in 5 or 10 years time, it's going to be out of alignment with the current Avengers-connected films, so it will be in vain and won't matter in the end.
This thought process is what leads to bad movies.

[Deaths Head II]

As an actual fan of the character I am very wiling to wait several years to get an Ant Man film that's amazing instead of taking the character in a direction that is meant to tie into Avengers. This focus to tie things in instead of making a good film gave us Iron Man 2.

[marcvader]

How about wanting an amazing movie that ties into others? Is that an impossible task?

[Deaths Head II]

No, but I care about the former faaaaar more then the latter. The fact that an amazing director like Wright is interested in a full Ant Man film excites me far more then how it ties into Avengers. After IM2 I think Marvel needs to step back a bit and make the films they are making work on their own because they seemed to have moved to far in the other direction.

[Randal Graves]

On the LA Times chat with Feige, he said Wright is working on the next draft, and should go into production sometime after The Avengers.

[S. Grundy]

No, but I care about the former faaaaar more then the latter. The fact that an amazing director like Wright is interested in a full Ant Man film excites me far more then how it ties into Avengers. After IM2 I think Marvel needs to step back a bit and make the films they are making work on their own because they seemed to have moved to far in the other direction.

That from what I recall was the stated plan with the Marvel films. After they jump the Avengers hurdle, they are going to do more modestly budgeted films with their lesser known characters.

[Stripesy Strip]

No, but I care about the former faaaaar more then the latter. The fact that an amazing director like Wright is interested in a full Ant Man film excites me far more then how it ties into Avengers. After IM2 I think Marvel needs to step back a bit and make the films they are making work on their own because they seemed to have moved to far in the other direction.

I felt that way watching Incredible Hulk too. With the whole "needing Hulk's blood to create super-soldiers" it felt like an infomercial for Captain America. Hell Tim Roth turned into Cap at some point in the movie.

[Steve Holt]

from
http://www.**************.com/fansites/bleedthefreak/news/?a=26922
RUMOR: Alan Tudyk To Play Ant-Man?

http://www.**************.com/images/articles/26922.jpeg





An anonymous scooper has given me word that Alan Tudyk of Firefly is locked in to play the role of Ant-Man in a solo film and a cameo in The Avengers, as well as some interesting stuff about heroes The Wasp and Wonder Man...
NOTE: I am not in anyway reporting this as fact. I thought I would share (http://www.**************.com/fansites/bleedthefreak/news/?a=26922#) this email that I have been pushing back posting for close to a month just to see what your opinions were on the possibility of these casting choices.

About two weeks back I received an email from an anonymous scooper going by the name of Mister Orange(Reservoir Dogs?) claiming to be close to the production of Edgar Wright's adaption of the comic character Ant-Man. In another email unfortunately and accidentally deleted by me, Mister Orange goes on to say he is concept artist on the film and did not answer any more of my questions do to fear of saying too much.
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Hi Mister Orange here, I am close to the production of director Edgar Wright's Ant-Man movie. Now as you may have heard it was jokingly reported by The Avengers director Joss Whedon that star of his show Firefly, Actor Nathan Fillion would be Ant-Man. But I have news on the contrary, In fact another Firefly star Alan Tudyk is not only locked in for a solo film for the character, but will briefly appear in The Avengers as the character's scientist counter part Hank Pym Along with wife and fellow super hero Janet Van Dyne(both whose transformation into Ant-Man and Wasp will be shown as the after the credits scene in The Avengers). Both characters will be in the process of creating Ultron(who is set up for the villein role in the solo film). The solo film will start filming directly after The Avengers with a cameo from Wonder Man, A role that is actually being largely considered for Fillion.sounds like BS. But if true i wouldn't complain

[Supermanreturns]

from
http://www.**************.com/fansites/bleedthefreak/news/?a=26922
sounds like BS. But if true i wouldn't complain
Fake. Scott Lang is the main char of Wright's Ant-Man.

[Steve Holt]

Fake. Scott Lang is the main char of Wright's Ant-Man.

source? i haven't heard anything to suggest Lang is the MAIN character. If anything i vaguely remember something along the lines of 50/50 with Pym. But that would have been several drafts ago before there would have been such a cohesive plan for this film universe

[Spidey-Quad]

SR, that was thrown out with the 1st draft. Steve is 100% correct

[HighFivingMF]

lol they shouldnt call the movie Ant Man IMO. No one is going to randomly see a movie named Ant Man. Unless Scott Lang is Ant Man in it. If Hank Pym Ant Man is in it then they should name it "Pym" or something like that xD
So... People wouldn't randomly see a movie called Ant-Man but they'd see one called Pym?

Wasn't it Colin Powell who said: "A good idea today is better than a great idea tomorrow"? Even if he produces a stunning Ant Man flick in 5 or 10 years time, it's going to be out of alignment with the current Avengers-connected films, so it will be in vain and won't matter in the end.
No matter who said it, it's not true.

[WildcatNC]

I love Wright but i'm not excited at all about this one. I personally don't understand why Ant-Man is getting so much press and publicity.

As a comic book fan hes a decent character. He's not very marketable, nor popular though. I also don't think shrinking or growing as a power will translate on the big screen very well. I think it would look hokey on film. Controlling ants?, even worse.

I like the "spy thriller" idea. Mainly because you would have to alter the cannon quite a bit to make it work on film IMO. I could be wrong but I don't think I am.

I think they should just make him a "support" guy in the Avengers as their tech guy, along with his wife. Maybe even have him as a Shield scientist assigned to them. That would explain the "spy tech" type talk.

There are some characters that shouldn't and probably can't carry their own movie. Without some changes Ant Man is probably one of them.

[Son of Coul]

I love Wright's idea of doing fight scenes with the shrinking dynamic, since he maintains his strength- jumping around people, shrinking & punching, growing & punching- it could be really cool to see.

[bored]

The "e-mail" sounds like crap, but damn would it be cool. Also, Fillion as Wonder Man would be fun (and including him and Ultron in a film would be a step closer to Vision).

[chiefchirpa]

I love Wright but i'm not excited at all about this one. I personally don't understand why Ant-Man is getting so much press and publicity.

As a comic book fan hes a decent character. He's not very marketable, nor popular though. I also don't think shrinking or growing as a power will translate on the big screen very well. I think it would look hokey on film. Controlling ants?, even worse.

I like the "spy thriller" idea. Mainly because you would have to alter the cannon quite a bit to make it work on film IMO. I could be wrong but I don't think I am.

I think they should just make him a "support" guy in the Avengers as their tech guy, along with his wife. Maybe even have him as a Shield scientist assigned to them. That would explain the "spy tech" type talk.

There are some characters that shouldn't and probably can't carry their own movie. Without some changes Ant Man is probably one of them.

If you know Henry Pym, you won't think shrinking and growing is his only power. His brain is his superpower like Tony Stark meaning that his power is all self-made. Tony is more of an applied physics-math/engineer guy, Pym is a biochemist par excellence and also theoretical physics. So if they can't call Reed Richards on the phone, Hank Pym is next best all-around scientist.

Marvel obviously won't have the Fantastic Four movie license for some time, Ant Man is the next best fantasy science franchise.

[WildcatNC]

If you know Henry Pym, you won't think shrinking and growing is his only power. His brain is his superpower like Tony Stark meaning that his power is all self-made. Tony is more of an applied physics-math/engineer guy, Pym is a biochemist par excellence and also theoretical physics. So if they can't call Reed Richards on the phone, Hank Pym is next best all-around scientist.

Marvel obviously won't have the Fantastic Four movie license for some time, Ant Man is the next best fantasy science franchise.


I understand that. I do know thats not his only ability, but it is the most known and obvious ones from the comic. Once I've thought about it more i'm not so against the idea.

If they don't play up the shrinking/growing and insect control it could be a good movie. Thats why I said "without some changes".

Wrights a talent and the "super spy" angle the script seems to be at sounds like a good direction.

I'll keep a more open mind about it.

[Rac]

Posted: May 1st, 2011 at 9:29 pm

I mentioned Doctor Strange and we know that Edgar Wright is writing Ant-Man and has turned in a draft. You guys are obviously doing The Avengers next year, but this is obviously a beast that needs to be fed especially with your partnership with Disney. When do you think you guys will announce what is coming up in 2013 or 2014?

Feige: It probably won’t be too long from now as we are figuring that out now. Clearly, if you look at the Iron Man, Spider-Man, and the X-Men films, two or three years between sequels is usually what we like to do. You don’t know if you are making sequels till the movies come out or not. So I will say that there is flux in what the release schedule could be for 2013, 2014, and maybe 2015. Then we hope to…I’m meeting with Edgar Wright tomorrow morning. It is the longest…I said to Edgar, “You didn’t realize it was like 5 years ago or maybe more than that that we met at Comic Con?” But he has the best draft yet and I think we could be in shape to do it. It’s a luxury that it has been allowed to live and breathe like that. It’s not where it was just racing to a release date. Iron Man 3 is for sure. We are actively putting it together right now. What happens beyond that? We will see. But for the first time…frankly, when we did Iron Man and Hulk we had two movies in development – Iron Man and Hulk. Now, there is more of a selection. So we can go, “What scripts are we feeling good about? What properties do we now feel that we want to bring into the forefront?”http://collider.com/kevin-feige-interview-thor-avengers-iron-man-3-ant-man-doctor-strange/88459/

[chiefchirpa]

I think if they don't go crazy on the growing-shrinking CGI stuff and focus more on Pym's (or faux-Fantastic Four) gadgets some cost would be save to have a 100 million dollar or less budget movie that goes along with the slightly less earning/profit potential of Ant Man movie franchise.

Have either a promising young or a veteran actor who is willing to have small paycheck, then Marvel will have another character driven film. Essentially that's what keep Thor up amid what all the critics said about its "hasty" storyline.

[EditNinja]

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/EditNinja/Ant-ManMovieAdrienBrodyGIFByEditNinja.gif

Everybrody loves Adrien!
C'mon, it's gotta have a good serving of comedy throughout, and still be a a cool movie. Edgar Wright's the man!

[marcvader]

Hey, that's cool edit ninja but I don't get a Hank Pym vibe from him but who am I to judge and Brody is a very good actor.

[EditNinja]

^Thanks, marcvader. I sort of agree with you but I just used Brody 'cause (I think) he's publicly put his hand up to play Ant-Man.
I'll probably cut a fan-trailer using him anyway.

[Duke]

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/EditNinja/Ant-ManMovieAdrienBrodyGIFByEditNinja.gif

Everybrody loves Adrien!
C'mon, it's gotta have a good serving of comedy throughout, and still be a a cool movie. Edgar Wright's the man!



awesome!!! make it happen marvel!

[lopli]

Ant Man is one of the few Marvel characters I know almost nothing about. I would like to learn more about him, I should definitely brush up on my history. But I just hope if they make an Ant Man movie they make it so that both comic book dorks and the general public can enjoy it, sort of like how Thor was.

[Endeavor]

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/EditNinja/Ant-ManMovieAdrienBrodyGIFByEditNinja.gif

Everybrody loves Adrien!
C'mon, it's gotta have a good serving of comedy throughout, and still be a a cool movie. Edgar Wright's the man!

Is that M.A.N.T.I.S.?

[EditNinja]

^ with a few colour mods, yep, that's MANTIS!

Oh, and I'm dropping Brody from my eventual edit - will probably use Patrick (Nite-Owl) Wilson.

[Endeavor]

Would have never thought of using MANTIS but you made it work, looks cool. :up:

[EditNinja]

Thanks, I'll get back to work on it soon...

[EditNinja]

Quick poster for a new fan-vid I'm working on:

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/EditNinja/Ant-ManMoviePoster44ByEditNinja.jpg

[EditNinja]

Ant-Man Movie Trailer [Fanedit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No5vyL7F7t4

Footage & Soundbites from Splice [2009], Takers [2010], Lakeview Terrace, The Mentalist, V -The Series, M.A.N.T.I.S., Iron Man 2, The Flash, Transformers 2, Mission Impossible 3, Hollywoodland, Honey I Shrunk The Kids, Honey I Blew Up The Kid, Spartan, Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes and the trailers for 'Wrecked' and 'Gun Hill Road'.

Music By Brand X - 'Road To Mayhem'

Inspired by popular fancasts and news that Marvel Studios have appointed Edgar Wright (Scott Pilgrim Vs The World) to direct this lesser-known superhero, featuring Henry (Hank) Pym (Patrick Wilson), Janet Van Dyne (Morena Baccarin), Scott Lang (Adrien Brody) - I've just added other Marvel Studios cameos. I've been wanting to do this trailer for a while, and had no way of depicting a possible Ant-Man suit till I saw the M.A.N.T.I.S. DVD set advertised in a DVD catalogue.

[Lord]

Update
http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/118/1183724p1.html

Marvel's Ant-Man (http://movies.ign.com/objects/769/769933.html) is one of those titles seemingly stuck in Development Hell. Is the movie happening? Is it not happening?

Edgar Wright (http://stars.ign.com/objects/917/917248.html) and Joe Cornish told Comic-Con that Hank Pym's movie is definitely "on."

"We turned in a new draft [of Ant-Man] on Monday," Wright revealed during the panel for the very fun, very awesome Attack The Block. He acknowledged that the project has taken some time to develop, as both he and Block writer-director Cornish have made 3 films since they started working on the script.

"But we're very excited about it," Wright commented. "We have some concept art and we really enjoy working on it."

If everything works out with this current draft, audiences could see an Ant-Man movie sometime in 2014.

I was expecting it to be released by 2013 but since i really want to see this there's no problem in waiting one more year

[BatsDC]

I was hoping for a 2013 release but oh well

[Dark Raven]

As I said in another thread (but it's more relevant here):

He seems to have been turning in a final draft for years though. I'm sure Wright thought earlier drafts were his last one, but then he had to revise them. He probably tells himself "okay, this one really is the final draft this time!"

Ant-Man won't be ready for 2014. He should stop working on these other projects and get a move on, or Marvel should pass it onto a different director/ writer who will fast track the project. Wright could be working on this for a decade with no real movement, only to give up in the end and hand it to someone else. It would all have been a waste of time.

[gkokujin]

hmmm...so its no longer Scott Lang, its Hank Pym?

[HighFivingMF]

Wright could be working on this for a decade with no real movement, only to give up in the end and hand it to someone else. It would all have been a waste of time.

Or he could make it and it could be good. Or they could hand it to someone who does an awful job.

Better late than never (or ****).

[R_Hythlodeus]

It's probably the most anticipated Marvel movie for me, except Avengers of course, since they announced it in 08

[MahvelBaby!]

My ideas:

Ant-Man:

I believe the villain should be Wonder-Man.
At the end Wonder-Man could become good(Or die)
Introduce AIM (No Modok....yet?)

Or you could just do Ulysses Claw but meh.

Introduce the concept of Ultron

Avengers 2:
Ultron as Villain, creates Vision using Wonder-Mans brain pattern.

If not in 2 then 3 :) But I'd like the Vision to be introduced earlier since he'd need time to develop and I'd like a future film with him as a main Avenger.

[misjuevos]

maybe wright is taking so long because whedon is gonna use pym as a cameo. so wright needs to make some changes.

[psylockolussus]

This movie is going into some serious development hell.

[Dark Raven]

My ideas:

Ant-Man:

I believe the villain should be Wonder-Man.
At the end Wonder-Man could become good(Or die)
Introduce AIM (No Modok....yet?)

Or you could just do Ulysses Claw but meh.

Introduce the concept of Ultron

Avengers 2:
Ultron as Villain, creates Vision using Wonder-Mans brain pattern.

If not in 2 then 3 :) But I'd like the Vision to be introduced earlier since he'd need time to develop and I'd like a future film with him as a main Avenger.

Wonder Man shouldn't be the villain and doesn't even really have a connection to Ant-Man. Why should he die either as a possibility, otherwise that leaves him unredeemed. He should be in the Avengers instead. And the only reason Ultron uses Wonder Man's brain patterns is because they are available and to preserve them. However, there is the whole Grim Reaper (Eric Williams) connection. He is the real driving force behind Wonder Man as a baddie, and he ought to feature in the Wonder Man story.

For Ant-Man, the villain should be Whirlwind at least, with Ultron being introduced, but only as a robot at the time and not a full-on villain until maybe towards the end. Then Ultron, like Loki, can gain tremendous power and take on the entire Avengers for Avengers 2.

[chamber-music]

I think AIM with Modok should be the villains in Ant-Man movie. Also He should start off as Ant-Man but soon after discover his able to change to Giant-Man and swith between the two like he does at the moment.

At the end Pym could create Ultron leading on to him being a villain the potential Ant-Man or Avengers sequel.

Hank Pym should be Ant-Man and the story line should include his first wife Maria and Janets father who Hank could work for being killed by AIM instead of the Soviets to get his newly discovered Pym Particles.

Pym is recruited by Shield to help bring down AIM a off shot of Hydra. He teams up with Janet out for revenge for here fathers death. They become Ant-Man and Wasp.

Bill Foster can make an apperance as Pyms best friend and colleague. Scott Lang can be a Shield agent with Agent Coulson who are Hank Pyms handlers. With Lang taking the Pyms formula at the end of the movie to help fight Hydra.

[cherokeesam]

This movie is going into some serious development hell.

No, it's coming *out* of development hell. :yay:
It's been in development hell since 2006. Right now is the closest this film has *ever* been to actually getting shot.

[TheVileOne]

I just don't think this project is getting off the ground. It's been five years. Scott Pilgrim flopped. Wright is going to have to make something sooner or later and it isn't going to be Ant-Man.

[Dark Raven]

Marvel should give this to someone else other than Wright if he's going to take this long. He doesn't seem very efficient or productive as a film maker.

[HighFivingMF]

Marvel should give this to someone else other than Wright if he's going to take this long. He doesn't seem very efficient or productive as a film maker.

What's the rush? I doubt there's anybody who could take the concept of Ant-Man and turn it into an interesting movie but Edgar Wright. Hell, almost half the people I've seen mention their wanting to see the movie is because of Wright.

[Son of Coul]

The hell is up with you people? I thought you guys were film geeks too, you should know Edgar Wright is a ****ing powerhouse behind the camera that almost everyone in Hollywood respects and loves. His films don't make much money? Yeah, but everyone knows his movies are ace, including Feige who has repeatedly said that Edgar can take his time. It's not like a Hollywood AND cult favorite director isn't gonna be in demand because one of his (very well-made) movies flopped, like "oh man, Wright excels at his job but his movie didn't make much- he's BOX OFFICE POISON!" Feige has shown this. This actually sounds reminiscent of another scenario where a flopped movie's director was hired- Serenity, anyone?

Hell, Wright has stated this movie is his next project and once he focuses his attention there it will get done. Both Scott Pilgrim and Hot Fuzz had first drafts an unusually long amount of years before they even picked up a camera for them.

And yeah, the only reason I'm excited for Ant-Man (Marvel making it has me interested, not excited) is that Wright is at the helm. He can take another decade and I wouldn't mind in the slightest.

[DrCosmic]

I think it's very convenient that Ant-Man is tied up in development. For all his positive qualities, Ant-Man is redundant in the Avengers, but not including him is an affront to some fans... being a founding Avenger is often his claim to fame. But with it tied up, there's no need to worry about him being included. Wright can 'take his time' as far as Feige is concerned. It's nice, and interesting.

That said, I hope he's a scientist and not a secret agent though, at least if its Hank, and it really should be Hank. And I hope Jan is more effective than she's often portrayed.

[Rac]

Let Edgar take his time. We've had enough of rushed projects (Iron Man 2, Cap, etc.).

Feige himself said Ant-Man is not a priority, and that's the reason they've let it breath.

[psylockolussus]

I just don't think this project is getting off the ground. It's been five years. Scott Pilgrim flopped. Wright is going to have to make something sooner or later and it isn't going to be Ant-Man.

I agree

They need to hire someone new and not Edgar Wright.

[cherokeesam]

I just don't think this project is getting off the ground. It's been five years. Scott Pilgrim flopped. Wright is going to have to make something sooner or later and it isn't going to be Ant-Man.


I wouldn't write Scott Pilgrim off.
Yes, it did poorly at the box office, and the mainstream critics were pretty meh; but among geekdom and indie filmdom, the movie is already attaining something of a cult movie status. Even though the big boys shied away from it, the bloggers and indiesphere gushed and ranked it high on their Top 10 lists for 2010.

Like most of Wright's stuff, it's more of a cult movie. And I'm sure that's exactly the direction he wants to take Ant-Man; I'm just not so sure that's the direction that Feige wants for the character.

But to be perfectly honest, as a solo project, I don't think you *can* play Ant-Man with a straight face. It doesn't need to be a broad farce, but I think if Wright applies the right blend of subtle parody and homage to the film, like he has his other "genre studies," this really could be another great cult flick.

[HighFivingMF]

I wouldn't write Scott Pilgrim off.
Yes, it did poorly at the box office, and the mainstream critics were pretty meh; but among geekdom and indie filmdom, the movie is already attaining something of a cult movie status. Even though the big boys shied away from it, the bloggers and indiesphere gushed and ranked it high on their Top 10 lists for 2010.

Like most of Wright's stuff, it's more of a cult movie. And I'm sure that's exactly the direction he wants to take Ant-Man; I'm just not so sure that's the direction that Feige wants for the character.

But to be perfectly honest, as a solo project, I don't think you *can* play Ant-Man with a straight face. It doesn't need to be a broad farce, but I think if Wright applies the right blend of subtle parody and homage to the film, like he has his other "genre studies," this really could be another great cult flick.

The mainstream critics weren't that indifferent, it got an 81% on RT at least. Which was better than I expected when I went to check just now.

[DrCosmic]

Ultron should be the villain. This will in no way hinder him from being the villain in an Avengers movie. I'd say feature ALL the Ant-Man, with Lang and O'Grady as criminals who steal pym's stuff and get into hijinks. You can still have Whirlwind as a henchman, but you gotta have a personal mastermind villain, and the only one Pym has is Ultron. You could, and maybe should, sub out Paladin for Whirlwind, as Paladin doubles as a romantic foil and early action foe. Throw in Bill Foster as supporting cast, and you've got a very nice group of people.

But I think Wright is going to do his own thing with Ant-Man, which is cool, but I'm not sure he's as in love with the source material as he was on Scott Pilgrim.

[chamber-music]

Well Hank Pyms arch enemy pre-Ultron was Egghead who was a mastermind villain with a long standing grudge against Ant-Man. He eventually got killed by Hawkeye

[MahvelBaby!]

Wonder Man shouldn't be the villain and doesn't even really have a connection to Ant-Man. Why should he die either as a possibility, otherwise that leaves him unredeemed. He should be in the Avengers instead. And the only reason Ultron uses Wonder Man's brain patterns is because they are available and to preserve them. However, there is the whole Grim Reaper (Eric Williams) connection. He is the real driving force behind Wonder Man as a baddie, and he ought to feature in the Wonder Man story.

For Ant-Man, the villain should be Whirlwind at least, with Ultron being introduced, but only as a robot at the time and not a full-on villain until maybe towards the end. Then Ultron, like Loki, can gain tremendous power and take on the entire Avengers for Avengers 2.

Well he may not have a connection to Ant-Man but he def has a connection to Vision, irregardless I think wonder man should def be introduced somewhere, with Grim Reaper as well why not! Unless they change Visions backstory which I have no issues with if done right.

[SterlingArcher]

The hell is up with you people? I thought you guys were film geeks too, you should know Edgar Wright is a ****ing powerhouse behind the camera that almost everyone in Hollywood respects and loves. His films don't make much money? Yeah, but everyone knows his movies are ace, including Feige who has repeatedly said that Edgar can take his time. It's not like a Hollywood AND cult favorite director isn't gonna be in demand because one of his (very well-made) movies flopped, like "oh man, Wright excels at his job but his movie didn't make much- he's BOX OFFICE POISON!" Feige has shown this. This actually sounds reminiscent of another scenario where a flopped movie's director was hired- Serenity, anyone?

Hell, Wright has stated this movie is his next project and once he focuses his attention there it will get done. Both Scott Pilgrim and Hot Fuzz had first drafts an unusually long amount of years before they even picked up a camera for them.

And yeah, the only reason I'm excited for Ant-Man (Marvel making it has me interested, not excited) is that Wright is at the helm. He can take another decade and I wouldn't mind in the slightest.

This... Some Of This Ant-Man Hate Is Really starting To Wear Thin and Im not even an Ant-Man Fan But With Edgar Wright Im Expecting A Great Film and cant wait for it to show alot of folks how wrong they are about it

[Dark Raven]

This... Some Of This Ant-Man Hate Is Really starting To Wear Thin and Im not even an Ant-Man Fan But With Edgar Wright Im Expecting A Great Film and cant wait for it to show alot of folks how wrong they are about it

Punctuation is your friend.

[SterlingArcher]

Punctuation is your friend.

Im A Getting Graded For This lol

[Rain]

How about this:

A.I.M. with Egghead and M.O.D.O.K. try to steal Ultron (who would be like a creepier JARVIS) A.I.M. eventually corrupts Ultron. At the end we could have Pym and Wasp vs Ultron vs A.I.M. .
Maybe there could be a scene like the end of Rise of the Planet of the Apes with Pym and Ultron going their seperate ways.

[TheVileOne]

I just think you need to figure out a different way to incorporate or introduce Hank Pym other than this movie. Marvel/Disney is in no hurry to make it.

At this point the earliest we could see it is 2014.

[scatterax]

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[DrCosmic]

Well Hank Pyms arch enemy pre-Ultron was Egghead who was a mastermind villain with a long standing grudge against Ant-Man. He eventually got killed by Hawkeye

Egghead. Hmmm... part of the gravitas of a genius supervillain is their ability to thoroughly outsmart and challenge the hero. If the hero himself is already himself a genius, then it loses it's punch, to me. I think that's part of why comic writers don't make use of Egghead. It's tough when even your name is a gimmick, too.

That said, he does make a great origin villain.

[gmanca]

The way I'd do it is to incorporate the 60's spy element as a story where Hank and Jan, not married but both agents for an early SHIELD, are asked to infiltrate the USSR to steal some secret weapon technology/discover who has been killing their top agents in Eastern Europe. The twist would be that the person they uncover as the assassin is the Winter Soldier.

You get to use the trip as a way to build the romance between the two and can have introductory sequences where Hank does a random mission, like a Bond Intro; there are lots of films to get a reference off of like Torn Curtain or Firefox. Plus you could reference things like Anton Vanko's work for the USSR before he was banished to Siberia or any other period topics.

[Dark Raven]

The way I'd do it is to incorporate the 60's spy element as a story where Hank and Jan, not married but both agents for an early SHIELD, are asked to infiltrate the USSR to steal some secret weapon technology/discover who has been killing their top agents in Eastern Europe. The twist would be that the person they uncover as the assassin is the Winter Soldier.

You get to use the trip as a way to build the romance between the two and can have introductory sequences where Hank does a random mission, like a Bond Intro; there are lots of films to get a reference off of like Torn Curtain or Firefox. Plus you could reference things like Anton Vanko's work for the USSR before he was banished to Siberia or any other period topics.

That does sound like a cool idea, and I would even be down with it set in the 60s if it weren't for the fact that I want to see them used in a future Avengers movie, so unfortunately they would have to be in modern day. They could still have a similar mission though - just not in the 60s. Maybe they need to retrieve something in Russia or Eastern Europe. Torn Curtain would be a good template. Paul Newman and Julie Andrews were, in some ways, quite Hank and Jan like.

[gmanca]

That does sound like a cool idea, and I would even be down with it set in the 60s if it weren't for the fact that I want to see them used in a future Avengers movie, so unfortunately they would have to be in modern day. They could still have a similar mission though - just not in the 60s. Maybe they need to retrieve something in Russia or Eastern Europe. Torn Curtain would be a good template. Paul Newman and Julie Andrews were, in some ways, quite Hank and Jan like.

Yeah, I completely agree that it should be modern times and that, at the very least, Hank and Jan should cameo in The Avengers.

Ant-Man in general is a totally do-able concept to film, it's just how creative and specific to the characters that matters.

[marcvader]

Really don't see Newman and Andrews in Hank and Jan. Andrews usually prim and proper and Newman is usually the strong badass and not a scientist type.

[Rac]

Wright is aiming to direct Ant-Man in 2014, his first directorial effort since 2010’s Scott Pilgrim vs the World. 2014 is rumored to be the same year that The World’s End will be released.

http://collider.com/edgar-wright-simon-pegg-worlds-end/140231/

[marcvader]

Planning to huh?

[BatsDC]

Do they mean actually releasing it in 2014, or it only starting being filming/directed then?

[HighFivingMF]

Planning to huh?

That's as definite as you can get without exaggerating. You never know what could happen in 2 years. If everything falls in line the way it's supposed to, Ant-Man will be filmed in 2014.

[MarvelKnight]

As much as I want the real original Avengers on screen together, there are a lot of different options to go with if it doesn't work out with Hank and Janet. Maybe you could have Hank and Jan have a kid who inherits pym's genius(as well as mental instability) and he could become an avenger, or possibly introduce goliath as a substitute maybe? I wouldn't particularly be a fan of that, but it is still a possibility.

I do like the idea of hinting at the winter soldier showing up and then maybe even disappearing (suspended animation) and show up in a future movie..

[Rac]

Do they mean actually releasing it in 2014, or it only starting being filming/directed then?
Filming, as I understood Wright plans to do The World's End next, and Ant-Man after it.

They have third our fourth draft of the script ready, early pre-prod has started at Marvel (pre-viz, concept art), they are just waiting for the go. 2013 is obviously lined-up with Thor 2 and Iron Man 3, so I guess in the meantime he can finish his The Three Flavours Cornetto Trilogy.

I don't know what they have for 2014 yet, though. Cap 2 is very likely, but what's the other one? Dr. Strange? Avengers 2 seems too early.

[TheVileOne]

At this point, I have no expectations of Edgar Wright on Ant-Man anymore.

Think about this guys. We first head about this project in 2006. It's been over five years. There's been virtually almost no movement on this project. Yes scripts have been written bloddy bloddy blah, but where is the movie? It's not getting made right now. Wright moved on and did Scott Pilgrim. He worked on Tintin. And now he's doing another movie.

Marvel, Disney, and Wright are in no hurry to do Ant-Man. Face it, it is low on their priorities right now. About as low as an Iron Fist film which sucks because I love Iron Fist.

[Dark Raven]

As much as I want the real original Avengers on screen together, there are a lot of different options to go with if it doesn't work out with Hank and Janet. Maybe you could have Hank and Jan have a kid who inherits pym's genius(as well as mental instability) and he could become an avenger, or possibly introduce goliath as a substitute maybe? I wouldn't particularly be a fan of that, but it is still a possibility.



I think, from having seen the Avengers Superbowl spot with Iron Man flying and Hulk swatting those aliens, it would've looked cool with both Hank and Jan in there. We could've seen Jan flying together with Iron Man, but the aliens dwarfing her. There could've been a chase scene. Also, it would've been cool to either see Giant Man towering over the city and grabbing these alien ships or even being felled by some of them and crashing down upon the city.

[cherokeesam]

Filming, as I understood Wright plans to do The World's End next, and Ant-Man after it.

They have third our fourth draft of the script ready, early pre-prod has started at Marvel (pre-viz, concept art), they are just waiting for the go. 2013 is obviously lined-up with Thor 2 and Iron Man 3, so I guess in the meantime he can finish his The Three Flavours Cornetto Trilogy.

I don't know what they have for 2014 yet, though. Cap 2 is very likely, but what's the other one? Dr. Strange? Avengers 2 seems too early.


I don't know that Cap 2 is a given. In fact, I don't know that there *is* a Cap 2 being planned....Marvel certainly hasn't mentioned it. They very well may choose to attach Cap's future strictly to the Avengers, and focus on him as the team leader instead of trying to develop a solo franchise set in the modern era.

[BatsDC]

I think Chris Evans said he was contracted to six films that would be split into 3 Captain America movies and 3 Avengers movies.

[babykhris]

Why do we need an "ACTUAL" Ant-Man film? Disney has ABC Family, so why not put together a TV movie. That way Ant-Man exists in the MCU and the character wouldn't need an origin story by the time Avengers 2 happens.

An Ant-Man theatrical release would flop, but I think a TV movie could do well.

[gkokujin]

Why do we need an "ACTUAL" Ant-Man film? Disney has ABC Family, so why not put together a TV movie. That way Ant-Man exists in the MCU and the character wouldn't need an origin story by the time Avengers 2 happens.

An Ant-Man theatrical release would flop, but I think a TV movie could do well.

where in comic book history did you get the notion that Antman is a kiddy superhero that deserves a Disney show?

I'll wait.

[Lord]

Why do we need an "ACTUAL" Ant-Man film? Disney has ABC Family, so why not put together a TV movie. That way Ant-Man exists in the MCU and the character wouldn't need an origin story by the time Avengers 2 happens.

An Ant-Man theatrical release would flop, but I think a TV movie could do well.
Why? Because Edgar Wright wants to do it

[chiefchirpa]

Ant Man could certainly made to be a romantic, beauty and the geek movie.

[ironmaidenrules]

I think ant man would be a bit too serious and would require too much effects for abc family. Think a more attractive and slightly more adjusted doctor venture. rare to see a hero that doesn't want to be a hero and then becomes a hero and then ****s everything up with robots

[babykhris]

where in comic book history did you get the notion that Antman is a kiddy superhero that deserves a Disney show?

I'll wait.

I did not say to make it a Disney show or a kiddy superhero. I said why not make it a TV movie. They are cheaper to make and would get the character out there before Avengers 2.

[R_Hythlodeus]

Pym is not TV material. He belongs to the big screen.

[MarvelKnight]

Ant-Man is one mentally effed good guy. Definitely has to be big-screen material, or at the very least an HBO,Starz, or showtime type of movie. which most likely wouldn't happen.

[DrCosmic]

Why do we need an "ACTUAL" Ant-Man film? Disney has ABC Family, so why not put together a TV movie. That way Ant-Man exists in the MCU and the character wouldn't need an origin story by the time Avengers 2 happens.

An Ant-Man theatrical release would flop, but I think a TV movie could do well.

The point of a big theatrical release is to get everyone (not just DisneyPhiles) familiar with and excited about the character. If the goal was 'just getting him out there' they could write a book, or do a cartoon. It has to be big, or he's not ready to be in a team up movie.

Ant Man could certainly made to be a romantic, beauty and the geek movie.

I've said this several times. It caters to a wider demo and is cheaper to make.

Pym is not TV material. He belongs to the big screen.

By what standard? His powers are one of the few that is easily doable on Tv.

Ant-Man is one mentally effed good guy. Definitely has to be big-screen material, or at the very least an HBO,Starz, or showtime type of movie. which most likely wouldn't happen.

I dislike the psycho/wifebeater version of Pym. I like him how he is in the 616 comics, as opposed to the Ultimate universe.

[marcvader]

I like the way he's done EMH as a pacifist and reluctant hero but I also like him as the trying to find his niche on the team type with all the different identities as well. These characteristics he has are best suited in the team setting and that's why I really want to see him in an Avengers movie someday.

[babykhris]

I'm sorry but Ant Man as a TV movie makes sense. If Ant Man was a theatrical release I think it would flop big time.

For all those wanting a big screen version sell it to me. Who is the villain? It's not going to be Ultron that would be an Avengers villain. Just make it make sense to me.

[MarvelKnight]

Well, he did have chemically induced schizophrenia in 616 universe. , not that I want to argue, just saying :).

And I don't think Marvel would ever delve into the wifebeater aspect of the Ultimate Pym. However, you can't "disneyfy" him either. I think you can find a happy medium though, to at least show the cracks in the armor.

Maybe taking a cue from EMH and hating all the violence, plus creating a robot that wants to vaporize all of humanity. I just think completely ignoring it would be a mistake is all. Even if they do the bare minimum, do it well. He is a hero, but he still has demons.

[DrCosmic]

Interesting. Didn't know about the Schizoid stuff. He has his demons they try to give him, yes, but I like him best with his EMH arc. He's someone who's out of his depth. He has to figure out how to cope with that. He's not a great superhero, but he has to be a superhero anyway. That's fresh to me, and is the only way I know of to make him likeable and give him contrast with the other Sci-fi biologists and technologists on the squad.

I'm sorry but Ant Man as a TV movie makes sense. If Ant Man was a theatrical release I think it would flop big time.

For all those wanting a big screen version sell it to me. Who is the villain? It's not going to be Ultron that would be an Avengers villain. Just make it make sense to me.

What would be the point of a TV movie? And Loki is an Avengers villain, he's also a deeply personal Thor villain, so the right way to handle him was create him during the Thor movie, and then have him all uber and badass during the Avengers. Ultron could/should be done the same way. Here's how I'd do it.

The pitch: Hank Pym is a loser. He's brilliant, so he has a bunch of almost-working half-finished inventions that he can't quite sell. An AI robot sidekick called "Ultimate Electronics," a helmet that controls bugs, some particles that can change the mass of inorganic matter, a world monitoring system called VISION, other stuff, but he's losing his research grants, he has no game, constantly rejected, and his only friend, fellow scientist Bill Foster, wants to go back to normal jobs. Nick Fury stops by, not to recruit him, but to tell him to stop his dangerous experiments. He is, in a word "The Poor Man's Tony Stark." It sucks to be him, but he's got so much potential, y'know?

Then a chance meeting comes, and Pym ends up at a big soire and meets Janet Van Dyne, a socialite, fashion designer and impeccable business woman. A perfect ten. It turns out her father had similar research and she brings it by his dilapidated labs/office to let him see it, and sees potential in the place. She helps him sell his ant control invention (the trademark helmet) and with the late Dr. Van Dyne's research (stored in Jan's wing-laden DNA), Pym actually gets the Pym Particles to work. Janet designs costumes, and Pym becomes a real live superhero. Of course, now everyone wants his stuff. Janet Van Dyne meets a new suitor, who turns out to be a merc named Paladin, trying to get close to the tech, thieves Scott Lang and Eric O'Grady try to steal the particles, and things just start to go wrong for Pym.

The power and fame goes to his head, and Pym turns arrogant, spanks Paladin thoroughly but loses Jan, and public support. It's only when he's down and out that he realizes that his computer is at fault, that this "Ultron" has been manipulating Pym's life, trying to take his place. When Pym shows him this isn't possible, Ultron decides to go postal, captures shrunken Jan, shuts down the city and goes on a rampage, ordering the military's computer-guided systems to attack Giant Man. Bill Foster shows up, also giant, to help distract Ultron, Pym shrinks, reunites with Jan, using her stingers and his ant control devices they actually take down Ultron from the inside before SHIELD shows up.

We last see Scott and Eric accidentally shrunken inside Pym's labs. We last see Hank and Jan riding off into the sunset together on something hilariously tiny. After the credits, Ultron is in SHIELD containment and his eyes light up, and he begins to list his next targets, all of the Avengers...

[HellBound]

May need a creative title change, but I hope Antman gets the green light real soon

[marcvader]

Was liking your story Cosmic, a lot actually, till you got to Ultron.

[DrCosmic]

^Yeah... that part needs work. :) I thought I had it, then it just slipped out from under me.

[MarvelKnight]

Yeah, that, at least from what I know, is how he comes up with Yellowjacket. Sort of a separate personality where he'd take all the chances (asking janet to marry him and what not) that he wouldn't normally.

I like what you are trying to do though with your story. The EMH was a nice take on the character though. I just think you can go a little grittier on the silver screen. Edgar Wright is great, I think he'll do Pym justice.

I just can't figure out how if it's going to take place in the 60s that he'd translate to the current avengers. Unless they do 2 separate movies at some point. Wright's and then one that ties in with the MCU they have. Maybe they use a different Ant-Man? Would be a last resort but you never know.

[MarvelKnight]

I kind of like the concept. I thought about that too with Ultron. Sort of setting things in motion that they can't figure out. I thought maybe leave the Ant-Man movie as sort of a cliffhanger, and start A2 with pym and Janet enlisting the help of the Avengers, and then Stark figures out its Ultron trying to set himself up for his Extinction protocol or whatever they want to call it. It'd be a nice way to get them into the Avengers (even if it isn't official at the start) they face the big bad and try to stop global extinction (maybe take a cue from Ultron EMH episode) I'd love to see how they would do the graphics for ultrons self-repair

[cherokeesam]

I'd be willing to bet that Marvel has leaned on Wright and Cornish to have Ant-Man focus on Hank Pym, not Scott Lang, and not do the 1960s mentor thing that the first draft described. The logical thing to do would be to make an Ant-Man movie about Hank and Janet in modern times, and integrate them into an Avengers sequel immediately after.

[HighFivingMF]

I hope not. I'd rather it not have anything to do with Avengers if that meant the best movie possible.

[chiefchirpa]

Avengers 2 could mean subtracting Iron Man and Black Widow, and adding Pym/Van Dyne.

[The Morningstar]

I dislike the psycho/wifebeater version of Pym. I like him how he is in the 616 comics, as opposed to the Ultimate universe.

He hit his wife in the 616 comics too. Millar took that into the Ultimate universe and made it more extreme though.

He is constantly trying to make up for all his faults, like creating Ultron and hitting Jan. That is part of his character. He's guilt plagued, even though he wasn't fully responsible for his actions, and feels he can never make up for it, but keeps striving to do that anyway. That's why he is awesome.

[cherokeesam]

I hope not. I'd rather it not have anything to do with Avengers if that meant the best movie possible.


But considering that Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne are known almost *exclusively* as Avengers characters (you can count the number of "solo" titles devoted to either character on the fingers of one hand), then yes, it's crucial that they are integrated into the team that they're actually associated with. It'd be like making solo movies of Cannonball or Dani Moonstar or Sunspot and *not* making them part of a New Mutants movie.

[MarvelKnight]

They won't be subtracting Iron Man from the Avengers anytime soon, until at least after the third. IM3 will be just like IM1 in that it will get the ball rolling with the next round of sequels leading into number 2. I'm pretty sure the whole main Avengers cast each have 6 picture deals (IM, Cap and Thor for sure) 3 "solo" movies and 3 avengers movies.

It'd be sweet to see the Iron Man armor have space-flight ability in A2.

[MarvelKnight]

Yeah, if you're not going to include Giant Man and Wasp in this incarnation of the team, fine, but then I wouldn't have them in the MCU at all. You can't have them out there on the silver screen and not have them apart of the avengers. Like Cherokee said, they are pretty much exclusive to the avengers.

[cherokeesam]

They won't be subtracting Iron Man from the Avengers anytime soon, until at least after the third. IM3 will be just like IM1 in that it will get the ball rolling with the next round of sequels leading into number 2. I'm pretty sure the whole main Avengers cast each have 6 picture deals (IM, Cap and Thor for sure) 3 "solo" movies and 3 avengers movies.

It'd be sweet to see the Iron Man armor have space-flight ability in A2.

I'm thinkin' you might not have to wait any later than this May to see Iron Man in space-capable armor....;)

[rayc1971]

i want to see ant man but looks like it aint hapening anytime soon! wright is going to film night stalker with johnny depp now!

[Dark Raven]

I'd be willing to bet that Marvel has leaned on Wright and Cornish to have Ant-Man focus on Hank Pym, not Scott Lang, and not do the 1960s mentor thing that the first draft described. The logical thing to do would be to make an Ant-Man movie about Hank and Janet in modern times, and integrate them into an Avengers sequel immediately after.

This is what I'm thinking. Hank Pym is the classic Ant Man. If he later becomes Yellow Jacket then maybe Scott Lang can be introduced. In fact, Scott Lang can be introduced in an Iron Man movie since he's really more of an Iron Man supporting character and was created by David Michellinie.

I don't think the 60s mentor thing will work now. I want to see Hank and Jan in the Avengers like their comic counterparts and also as they are in A:EMH.

Just get Autumn Reeser for Jan. She's like a real life version of the character.

http://www.hairfinder.com/celeba/autumn-reeser2.jpg

http://hairstyles.thehairstyler.com/hairstyle_views/left_view_images/2485/original/Autumn-Reeser.jpg

[DrCosmic]

This is what I'm thinking. Hank Pym is the classic Ant Man. If he later becomes Yellow Jacket then maybe Scott Lang can be introduced. In fact, Scott Lang can be introduced in an Iron Man movie since he's really more of an Iron Man supporting character and was created by David Michellinie.

I don't think the 60s mentor thing will work now. I want to see Hank and Jan in the Avengers like their comic counterparts and also as they are in A:EMH.

Just get Autumn Reeser for Jan. She's like a real life version of the character.

http://hairstyles.thehairstyler.com/hairstyle_views/left_view_images/2485/original/Autumn-Reeser.jpg

First of all, Autumn Reeser is awesome, and yes, would KILL as Jan. OMG. Get her and somebody like Zachary Levi for Hank. Gol-DEN.

I don't see how the 60's thing 'won't work' besides not serving comics fans, though. And if they bring in Kang, Pym can still be with the contemporary Avengers, honestly.

But considering that Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne are known almost *exclusively* as Avengers characters (you can count the number of "solo" titles devoted to either character on the fingers of one hand), then yes, it's crucial that they are integrated into the team that they're actually associated with. It'd be like making solo movies of Cannonball or Dani Moonstar or Sunspot and *not* making them part of a New Mutants movie.

To us, maybe, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll be seen that way in the movies. In fact, unless they can stand on their own or tie directly into another hero's story, they aren't even MCU Avengers material.

He hit his wife in the 616 comics too. Millar took that into the Ultimate universe and made it more extreme though.

He is constantly trying to make up for all his faults, like creating Ultron and hitting Jan. That is part of his character. He's guilt plagued, even though he wasn't fully responsible for his actions, and feels he can never make up for it, but keeps striving to do that anyway. That's why he is awesome.

I think it's kinda wack when characters are plagued by guilt of things that aren't their fault. In comics, it's okay, but in movies? Get over it man, we only got two hours.

[Steve Holt]

Eric Christian Olsen and Autumn Resser would be awesome!!!

[Dark Raven]

Eric Christian Olsen and Autumn Resser would be awesome!!!

But Hank needs to be significantly older than Jan. Olsen is only 34 and Reeser is 31. I say go for someone like Simon Baker who is 42.

[Steve Holt]

well he is in my sig, big Mentalist fan, hoping they'll look at him

Baker would fit in well in the MCU, Olsen would meld well with Edgar

[DrCosmic]

Does Pym *have* to be significantly older than Jan?

[Donnie Darko]

I'm sticking with Patrick Wilson as Hank Pym.

[Dark Raven]

I'm sticking with Patrick Wilson as Hank Pym.

He too would work well. Simon Baker actually looks/acts more like Scott Lang anyway (at least classic Scott Lang from the pages of Iron Man as depicted by David Michellinie and Bob Layton).

[MarvelKnight]

What about Winona Ryder for Janet/Wasp?

[wonderwoman5757]

What about Winona Ryder for Janet/Wasp?

Sure ... a decade ago

[MarvelKnight]

Just trying to think outside the box.

Just came across Morena Baccarin (from Homeland) She is Janet, 100percent imo

[wonderwoman5757]

Just trying to think outside the box.

Just came across Morena Baccarin (from Homeland) She is Janet, 100percent imo

i agree with that. she is a perfect fit.

[BatsDC]

I found this image of armour earlier, and changed it up a bit to make it look like Ant-Man. (Or atleast how I imagine he'll look on film).

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/LMB10RCT3/antmanhank.png

EDIT: And here's Scott Lang...

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/LMB10RCT3/antmanscott.png

[Lord]

Cool pic

[marcvader]

I was thinking. How exactly do the Pym particles work? Are they absorbed, injected, unhaled? I figure also the way the particles work would affect the materials his suit is made of and therefore the look as well. I'm also thinking some kind of weave would work better than a metal or plastic in conveying size change somewhat.

[cherokeesam]

I was thinking. How exactly do the Pym particles work? Are they absorbed, injected, unhaled? I figure also the way the particles work would affect the materials his suit is made of and therefore the look as well. I'm also thinking some kind of weave would work better than a metal or plastic in conveying size change somewhat.


In the books, Pym's transformations have been brought on several different ways --- pill, potion, and gaseous form.

But I do kinda like the idea of a specialized suit with a specially-made fabric that can "endure" the stress of great changes in mass. That would give a "scientific" reason for (Gi)Ant-Man to have the goofy superhero suit.

[TheVileOne]

I doubt Marvel Studios/Disney will ever let the abusive side be depicted of Hank Pym.

Just saying. Look at Ultimate Avengers. Hank and Jan fought but it was never physical or abusive.

You can do all the guilt stuff without it going into the realm of abuse.

Not saying it shouldn't be done but it won't. Even Tony Stark's alcoholism has basically been de-fanged in the movies and I doubt we will ever see a DEMON IN THE BOTTLE type movie.

[Dark Raven]

I found this image of armour earlier, and changed it up a bit to make it look like Ant-Man. (Or atleast how I imagine he'll look on film).

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/LMB10RCT3/antmanhank.png

EDIT: And here's Scott Lang...

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/LMB10RCT3/antmanscott.png

Sorry, but Simon Pegg as Scott Lang just seems really off for the character. Bradley Cooper is even more like Scott Lang both in personality and looks. Lang is more charming rogue/ movie buff than Pym, especially as written by his original creator David Michellinie who had him feature as an Iron Man supporting character for many years.

And one idea I've thought of going by the Marvel Legends Ant-Man figure is Michael C Hall:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zF9ZWV1Z82s/TmzTSILqY6I/AAAAAAAACbU/liQpdWrJLmM/s1600/michael-c-hall.jpg
http://www.tmnttoys.com/reviews/MarvelLegends/giantman/8273.jpg

There's a very strong resemblance there.

I still want Autumn Reeser for Wasp though.

[DrCosmic]

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z477/LMB10RCT3/antmanhank.png


This is very cool work! I like it a lot. As said before, Cooper's too 'cool' to be believable as Pym. His Limitless character was already a bit silly.

I was thinking. How exactly do the Pym particles work? Are they absorbed, injected, unhaled? I figure also the way the particles work would affect the materials his suit is made of and therefore the look as well. I'm also thinking some kind of weave would work better than a metal or plastic in conveying size change somewhat.

I'd like, and maybe I'm biased, but since the pym particles need to saturate every cell in his body, it should be some system of dramatic bombardment, as opposed to something that would simply change body chemistry.

I think the idea of the suit being necessary for his powers would be pretty awesome.

[chiefchirpa]

Ant Man = Bio Armor
Iron Man = Mech Armor

[Dark Raven]

This is very cool work! I like it a lot. As said before, Cooper's too 'cool' to be believable as Pym. His Limitless character was already a bit silly.



I'd like, and maybe I'm biased, but since the pym particles need to saturate every cell in his body, it should be some system of dramatic bombardment, as opposed to something that would simply change body chemistry.

I think the idea of the suit being necessary for his powers would be pretty awesome.

Which is exactly the same argument I've been making about people's suggestions of Nathan Fillion as Pym.

However Cooper could work as Scott Lang, who was meant to be cooler than Hank in the comics.

[SlamAdams]

Thats damn cool armor. I like the Pegg-Lang one better with the silver worked in a little more

[Captain Marvel]

I think they should take the characters of Hank Pym and Scott Lang and combine them into a single, brand new character... which they could call Hank Pym.

Seriously, I want to see Hank. Make him funnier, quirkier, etc if necessary, but just focus on Hank and Janet and the dynamic between the two of them. Throwing Scott Lang in there would just be a mess and distract from the two characters that I want to see a movie about.

[SlamAdams]

I don't think Lang would gum up the works that badly. If Pym was the lead hero-protagonist, he would have is love interest (Jan) and his comic relief "sidekick" so to speak (Lang).

[Dark Raven]

I think they should take the characters of Hank Pym and Scott Lang and combine them into a single, brand new character... which they could call Hank Pym.

Seriously, I want to see Hank. Make him funnier, quirkier, etc if necessary, but just focus on Hank and Janet and the dynamic between the two of them. Throwing Scott Lang in there would just be a mess and distract from the two characters that I want to see a movie about.

While I agree that it would be better to just concentrate on Hank and Jan to avoid a messy plot, I don't really want Marvel combining Hank and Scott's characters. I prefer they just ignore Scott altogether if they are going to do that.

Giving Hank elements of Scott's personality will make him too much like a standard leading hero. What differentiates Hank would be that he isn't so flashy and outgoing. However, they don't need to make Hank as introverted as some might think he is. He can still be heroic but needs a push from Jan to be a man of action.

[chiefchirpa]

Pym's Biotech Armor should be a sight to behold.

[MarvelKnight]

I think going with a high tech version of what you see in EMH would be adequate as far as the Pym Particles being absorbed into his entire body and cell structure.

[DrCosmic]

Ant Man = Bio Armor
Iron Man = Mech Armor

Like Chitin armor? That'd be weird and cool. Or are you just saying typical tech armor with some sort of 'bio' in the technobabble explanation?

I personally would rather Ant Man be sans armor to highlight the importance and utility of his powers as well as his underdog nature.

Which is exactly the same argument I've been making about people's suggestions of Nathan Fillion as Pym.

However Cooper could work as Scott Lang, who was meant to be cooler than Hank in the comics.

Yeah, I think the casting was a bit backwards in those manips. Pegg would be fine as Pym and Cooper as Lang.

[ironmaidenrules]

i still think patrick wilson would be tops for this.
dude can act
can play pathetic very well(barry munday,watchmen)
can play a bit manical(a-team)
sorta balding in the front----just would look good to highlight his age
soft voice---always figured pym to be more cold and calculating


shame he would never do it...but now with his HORRBILE cbs show going in the ****ter....

[The Morningstar]

Jason Bateman for Pym.

[BigThor]

The 21st Century for the time frame this film should take place in.

[BatsDC]

Yeah Cooper would be a good Lang, but I can see him playing Hank too. Would never happen though.

[DrCosmic]

Jason Bateman for Pym.

THAT would make my day.

[MarvelKnight]

Guy Pearce for pym?

[R_Hythlodeus]

does anyone know when the filming for the 3rd part of the Cornetto trilogy starts?
I guess as soon as Pegg finished shooting Star Trek (X)II. (in about one or two months, I guess)
add a year of production time, one or two months of promotion and I say pre-production for Ant-man will start around fall 2013. enough time to finish the movie for a late 2014 /early 2015 release.

[Rac]

“Ant Man… The Closest It’s Ever Been” – Kevin Feige
Written on March 30, 2012 by Rich Johnston (http://www.bleedingcool.com/author/rich-johnston/) in Film (http://www.bleedingcool.com/category/film/)

Bleeding Cool has just had a remote videoconference chat with Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige from Disney’s Hammersmith offices, ahead of the release of The Avengers (Avengers Assemble in the UK) next month.
We’ll have a larger piece later, but I did want to share what Kevin Feige said about a favourite topic for Bleeding Cool, the Edgar Wright Jr/Joe Cornish scripted Ant Man project at Marvel Studios.

"It’s somewhere. I’ll just say it’s closer than it’s ever been in its long maybe eight year history, and I usually e-mail Edgar every two or three days and over those eight years its got further away and closer… we are now closer than we’ve ever been. So I hope it will come together shortly."http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/03/30/ant-man-the-closest-its-ever-been-kevin-feige/

[TheWatcher]

Bateman would be a dream come true.

[Dark Raven]

Closest it's ever been?

But rumours of Sony being in trouble and potentially having to sell their movie division could also count as the closest we've ever been to a Marvel-produced Spider-Man movie. :oldrazz:

A year ago, Ant-man was the closest it's every been compared to two years ago. And that was the closest compared to three years ago.

[Steve Holt]

it's gotta be someone on the cusp of fame, someone talented who they could build a franchise around (ala Evans, Hemsworth)

My pick would be Eric Christian Olsen, has worked with Evans at least twice before (Cellular, Not Another Teen Movie) great chemistry and charisma, can play dark and serious, is a scene stealer in everything he's in.
He'd definitely fit Edgar Wrights style easily

[Saitou Hajime]

Who was going to distribute Ant-Man had it got made pre-Disney era?

[Endeavor]

Paramount

[Rac]

There have been a lot of rumors that Edgar Wright filmed something for you guys recently, so I’m asking, “Did Edgar Wright film something for you guys recently?”

Feige: He did not. But I saw that tweet as well and thought, “Did he do something for us? No?” No, it wasn’t for us. But pay attention to his tweets in the coming months; that answer might change.

One last thing, do you think you’ll ever do three movies in one year?

Feige: Never say never. It’s not a goal, we’re not striving to do that, but circumstances sometimes may allow that to occur. Depending on what Edgar Wright films for us [laughs].http://collider.com/kevin-feige-thor-2-iron-man-3-avengers-sequel-interview/158942/

[Supermanreturns]

http://collider.com/kevin-feige-thor-2-iron-man-3-avengers-sequel-interview/158942/
From this interview it's clear that Dr. Strange is the second 2014 movie. But if Edgar give them his OK, they made a third movie in 2014: Ant-Man. :woot:

[cherokeesam]

From this interview it's clear that Dr. Strange is the second 2014 movie. But if Edgar give them his OK, they made a third movie in 2014: Ant-Man. :woot:


That's where I'm placin' mah bet, too.

2013:

Thor 2
Iron Man 3

2014:

Captain America 2
Dr. Strange
Ant-Man

[Rac]

The Avengers European Premiere Interview: Marvel President Kevin Feige Gives Studios Updates

April 19, 2012

It’s as close as it’s ever been. Edgar is getting excited to get behind the camera again and start some advanced prep work for Ant-Man… We are going to take some forward steps in a few months that will bring it closer than ever. In terms of release date, I don’t know.http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2012/04/19/the-avengers-european-premiere-interview-producer-kevin-feige-gives-marvel-studios-updates/

[CoulsonFan]

Including Wasp from the get-go would keep it from feeling too much like an Iron Man retread. You can't just do another movie about a guy testing his tech in his lab. Some kind of Superhero/superscientist romantic comedy?

I'd like to see Ultron in the mix too, and not in a way that feels like he's just setup for a plot device. Maybe he's just a half-constructed prototype in the beginning. Make him a fun, funny character who the audience wants to spend time with. You really don't need to suggest there's anything potentially sinister about him early on. Slowly build something so there's an emotional payoff when he starts acting like Ultron. He could be the villain by the time you get to Avengers 4 and the principal cast from the current lineup aren't guaranteed to come back.

[DrCosmic]

I still say make Ultron a villain, in the same way that Loki was a villain in Thor, but perhaps less overtly. Let Ultron being the villain be the twist, so you can have even more emotional payoff than you did with Loki in Thor. Cuz, honestly... Pym doesn't really have any other villains worth talking about.

[CoulsonFan]

I still say make Ultron a villain, in the same way that Loki was a villain in Thor, but perhaps less overtly. Let Ultron being the villain be the twist, so you can have even more emotional payoff than you did with Loki in Thor. Cuz, honestly... Pym doesn't really have any other villains worth talking about.
He could fight AIM. Edgar Wright's a guy who could find a tone that would make MODOK work, too.

[Son of Coul]

Huh, I never considered that. I agree that Wright could be the man to pull MODOK off if he chose to go that route.

[Dethklokx7]

A few people have seen early screenings of avengers and I wonder if there is ANY hint or easter egg to Pym or Janet? Maybe that last minute scene recently shot has some relation

[DrCosmic]

... you're right. MODOK would work as well. And if it's the 60s spy thing, we can be pretty sure it'll be AIM.

[Dethklokx7]

one way i could see MODOK redone is instead of a big head its a big tv screen with a "fish eye lense" kinda effect. I only say this because Id hate to see another hector hammond lol

[CoulsonFan]

A few people have seen early screenings of avengers and I wonder if there is ANY hint or easter egg to Pym or Janet? Maybe that last minute scene recently shot has some relation
Feige emphasized recently that that was "not a scene." I take that to mean it could just be a shot or a couple of shots that might get inserted into an existing scene. As fun as it is to imagine there's some super secret casting surprise there, it sounds like that's not the case.

one way i could see MODOK redone is instead of a big head its a big tv screen with a "fish eye lense" kinda effect. I only say this because Id hate to see another hector hammond lol

I would not worry about anything in these Marvel movies getting as screwed up as Green Lantern was. They already do have a "head in a TV" character, if Arnim Zola comes back.

[Dethklokx7]

lol whoops forgot about zola lol well MODOK is one of those guys that can be a REAL problem translating to the big screen

[Endeavor]

A few people have seen early screenings of avengers and I wonder if there is ANY hint or easter egg to Pym or Janet? Maybe that last minute scene recently shot has some relation
No Hank or Janet easter egg in the movie at all.

[DrCosmic]

MODOK is actually pretty easy to translate in an Ant-Man movie. They're both scientists, and both affected by Pym particles. In Tarleton (MODOK's) case, his head blew up and his body shrank, and now he needs a harness to survive, but he's also a lot smarter and more dangerous now. He fits into an Ant-Man movie quite well, imho.

And you can build Ultron to be either the twist villain or the villain for Avengers or both. I could see that.

[Dethklokx7]

what i meant is its hard to make a big headed villian look threatning on screen. I mean id like to see MODOK and Ultron as a build up. Too bad no Pym or Janet reference...oh well they can always add them later

[Mr. Immortal]

MODOK!? No, no, no, no, no, no and no. Please don't encourage the same mistake as Green Lantern.

The percentage of people that want to look at some big headed abomination is astronomically low. Crazy idea, but visuals in a movie are pretty important. A villain that looks like the titular character from Hey Arnold in real life is not menacing, cool, or visually striking. It's stupid.

Luckily, I know Marvel Studios has enough sense to never go down that road so we can all forget that MODOK was ever brought up.

[CoulsonFan]

Green Lantern had a host of problems and the premise that a guy had a big head was not key among them.

MODOK is actually pretty easy to translate in an Ant-Man movie. They're both scientists, and both affected by Pym particles. In Tarleton (MODOK's) case, his head blew up and his body shrank, and now he needs a harness to survive, but he's also a lot smarter and more dangerous now.
That's pretty good, by the way.

[MarvelKnight]

what i meant is its hard to make a big headed villian look threatning on screen. I mean id like to see MODOK and Ultron as a build up. Too bad no Pym or Janet reference...oh well they can always add them later

I'm sure with today's tech and the smart people working on these movies that they can adapt MODOK to look more fierce/grotesque/evil-looking than his somewhat silly comic-book self.

[Mr. Immortal]

Green Lantern had a host of problems and the premise that a guy had a big head was not key among them.

It really was. Approach this from someone who's going to this movie purely for super heroics, an awesome villain, and good fights. Which I would say a large portion of the audience actually IS attending the movie for. If you had to point a finger at one single thing in TDK that drew enormous success, it wasn't the dark, convoluted story line or anything like that. We all know it was the scene chewing villain monologues. All anyone could talk about was Joker before and after. Villains are important for a casual viewer. Having a guy with a disgusting big head and a CG mass of **** as villains were critical in GL's failure.

[CoulsonFan]

It really was. Approach this from someone who's going to this movie purely for super heroics, an awesome villain, and good fights. Which I would say a large portion of the audience actually IS attending the movie for. If you had to point a finger at one single thing in TDK that drew enormous success, it wasn't the dark, convoluted story line or anything like that. We all know it was the scene chewing villain monologues. All anyone could talk about was Joker before and after. Villains are important for a casual viewer. Having a guy with a disgusting big head and a CG mass of **** as villains were critical in GL's failure.
Hector Hammond was their attempt to write in a grim, sadistic "Joker" character. That script should have focused exclusively on extraterrestrial threats. That was their shot at differentiating Lantern from every other superhero property. You got bogged down in all this business about an evil psychic guy when you should have been zipping around Oa and learning more about the Corps and the cosmos. Instead of at least swapping evil psychic guy for a space barbarian, a space bug, anything from space, they just turned him into a big, evil cloud man.

None of that has anything to do with the fact that a guy's head was big.

What is it with clouds, by the way? Ang Lee's Hulk and the second Fantastic Four. When they're throwing out unique concepts and designs from the comics in favor of something bland, "evil CG clouds" are the first place they turn. Formless, intangible masses. They represent the absence of ideas.

[DrCosmic]

Easy there. They represent the unknowable, or something beyond our ability to conceive and quantify. They are a direct result of the shying away from 'invasion of the 50 foot monster' as something you can pass off as a mind blowing cosmic concept. I agree, someone should have learned their lesson by now though. The unknowable cloud villain is 0 for 3.

MODOK, if he was done live action, would be disgusting and creepy... a movie monster in a superhero movie, basically, something more like this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Hype1/ModoK-Real.jpg

[MarvelKnight]

I like it, Just a head would be perfect.

[Dethklokx7]

That design is actually pretty good.

[Endeavor]

Best MODOK interpretation so far.

[FVD]

Michael C. Hall as Hank and Autumn Reeser as Jan??? HELL YES I LOVE IT!!!!

Dreams are for free though but they both are stunning choices if you ask me.

Oh and those MODOK art impressions are bloody fantastic too. Believable enough for the Silver Screen methinks.

[chiefchirpa]

I prefer bigger name like Bradley Cooper as Ant Man. And some cheap good young actress as the Wasp.

Modok is also fine as the antagonist, this is an Edgar Wright and zanier Marvel film after all likened to an MCU Fantastic Four. Ant Man goon squad should be AIM.

[scatterax]

cooper's not the antman type. he's too similar to a younger tony stark.

[psylockolussus]

Easy there. They represent the unknowable, or something beyond our ability to conceive and quantify. They are a direct result of the shying away from 'invasion of the 50 foot monster' as something you can pass off as a mind blowing cosmic concept. I agree, someone should have learned their lesson by now though. The unknowable cloud villain is 0 for 3.

MODOK, if he was done live action, would be disgusting and creepy... a movie monster in a superhero movie, basically, something more like this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Hype1/ModoK-Real.jpg

Wow that picture looks good! Where did you get that? :woot:

[scatterax]

the only time a cloud villain has ever worked was when tetsuo turned in to (what i called) that flesh cloud at the end of akira, but i don't even think that counts.

[DrCosmic]

Yeah, Cooper's too cool to be Pym, honestly.
A cloud villain worked on the TV LOST very well, so I guess it's 1/4 instead of 0 for 3.
I got the picture from a google image search. Can't find it anymore. :(

[The Watcher]

Patrick Wilson, as others have said, would be perfect as Hank. He has the looks, the chops, and he's that sort of choice Marvel might go with.

[psylockolussus]

I want Nathan Fillion to play Ant-Man :D.

[BatsDC]

I'd like Fillion or Cooper, they're my top two choices for Pym. Personally I'd rather have Patrick Wilson play somebody else... Reed Richards, maybe.