The Mary Jane Watson Thread

[Catman]

So, is Kirsten Dunst coming back or what? If not then let's get the ball rolling on Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

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[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

So, is Kirsten Dunst coming back or what? If not then let's get the ball rolling on Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/Hombre_Gato/Winstead.jpg

too late :( kirsten is returning especially since sam has full creative control. Kirsten said she wouldnt return if sam and tobey didnt return so there ya go !

[Catman]

I'll believe it when it's on paper.

[Crook]

Wouldn't make sense to recast MJ at this point, if the rest of the cast stays. I f'n hate Dunst for the role too, but it's way too late for changes.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I think Sony is waiting on an official answer from Kirsten or something.

[Catman]

Wouldn't make sense to recast MJ at this point, if the rest of the cast stays. I f'n hate Dunst for the role too, but it's way too late for changes.

Kirsten Dunst has obviously never been a fan of the role. She did it for the money and exposure. And since she hasn't been signed then anything is possible.

[Crook]

Not the point. She's been MJ for three films now, and the audience knows that. To change the role this late in the game, is moronic. Especially when the rest of the cast is likely to be back.

If Kirsten goes, let MJ go. I wouldn't mind.

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Catman changed his avvy?:eek: I kinda agree with Crook & SMH12 but on the other hand...I totally agree with Catman...:o

I think Dunst even said once that she signed on to be noticed in other countries and all.

[SpiderRock88]

i actaully like Kirsten, and its really way to late to change now, they might as well finish Raimi's films and eventually reboot the series like in 2020 or something

[Catman]

She's been MJ for three films now, and the audience knows that. To change the role this late in the game, is moronic.

The movie is called Spider-Man 4 not Mary Jane 4. No one is gonna care if they re-cast the role. It's not like she was popular or anything.

[Adrian89]

I hope she won't come back, for the sake of the Spider-Man Franchise!

It's time for a sexy MJ, it's also the time for an MJ that looks like MJ!!

[Crook]

The movie is called Spider-Man 4 not Mary Jane 4. No one is gonna care if they re-cast the role. It's not like she was popular or anything.
I never said they'd care. But I'm implying a recast is generally distracting. Why recast now, when they could do that for the inevitable "refresh" after Raimi is done? Why waste a film (or two) on this new actress, for a role that's arguably dry and unlikable? Either get her back for continuity's sake, or just drop it.

No one's gonna care if MJ stays, but no one's gonna complain if she doesn't come back either.

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

The movie is called Spider-Man 4 not Mary Jane 4. No one is gonna care if they re-cast the role. It's not like she was popular or anything.
That's true...& the first part of your post made me think of that one video I saw once of these kids playing with SM3 action figures & one of the kids says to the other, "No one cares about your career. This is SM4 not Mary Jane 4." or something along those lines....:o:grin:

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah, Kirsten's back. Please, don't make her *****y.

Hell, gain weight, I always preffered the red wig, and be alot more likeable like she was in SM1.

[Catman]

^ Yes. Kirsten Dunst can return if she shows her nipples again. :cwink:

[venom892]

Quite frankly I want MJ back and I want a recast.MJ is fiery and passionate and Kristen never really had that.Whoever MJ is Please Sam let's not have her kinapped ok?:o

[Voorhees]

I wish Raimi would let MJ return to how she was in SM-1...y'know when she wasn't annoying and complaining about everything? I don't mind Dunst returning and think it's way too late for recasting, but if she's going to return don't make her be jealous of Peter.

[Doctor Jones]

^ Agreed.

I want her to support Peter and have a nice relationship.

And yeah, don't hold her hostage again. Hell, don't even have a hostage.

[Doctor Jones]

^ Agreed.

I want her to support Peter and have a nice relationship.

And yeah, don't hold her hostage again. Hell, don't even have a hostage.

[Voorhees]

Yeah, that part is getting old. Have her be involved, and maybe be in the action, but don't have her end up as a hostage.

[Venom75]

i actaully like Kirsten, and its really way to late to change now, they might as well finish Raimi's films and eventually reboot the series like in 2020 or something

I feel the same way. I like Kirsten,although she may not be the perfect MJ. The only complaint I have is that she just seemed bored with the role in parts 2 and 3. But,I guess when she signed on for 3 movies she only thought about exposure...at the time. I just hope that for 4,she's not doing the same thing(getting kidnapped and screaming),which might answer my question as to why Dunst seemed so bored with the role the last 2 films.

[SpaceWay2009]

Same here. I'm fine with MJ returning, but don't use her as a hostage or have her being jealous of Peter. Like I said before, MJ in SM1 was the best, compared to two and three - especially three.

[chaseter]

MEW for MJ. Dunst for Twilight 2.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

So, is Kirsten Dunst coming back or what? If not then let's get the ball rolling on Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

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well at least we have evan rachel wood for mary jane in the spider-man musical. me-ouch !

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[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

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[chaseter]

MEW for MJ...that is all.

[dark_b]

its actually not hard to look sexy. but if you are skinny and on drugs and .......

meeeeeh

[Sentinel X]

well at least we have evan rachel wood for mary jane in the spider-man musical. me-ouch !

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Oh man!! :wow:
I remember her from the movie thirteen (a good indie film btw)....wow, she really grew up. She looks good now and I wouldnt mind her for Mary Jane (I really want to watch the Spider-man musical, it could be cool. I wonder how theyd do Dr.Ock)


I don't think Kirsten Dunst is ugly per say...I just think she looks average and if you're an average looking girl and you're cast as Mary jane you have to work a little extra hard to do justice to your role and Kirsten Dunst doesn't seem to try at all. Its like she knows she looks like a hot mess...and she doesn't care :csad:

[ross2287]

If Kirsten comes back I just hope she has red hair, not orange hair. :up:

[SP1D3RxV3N0M]

well at least we have evan rachel wood for mary jane in the spider-man musical. me-ouch !

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That's what I call "Good casting".

[Catman]

That's what I call "Good casting".

That's what I call, "flat chested." :cwink:

[Crook]

And MEW is....?

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

And MEW is....?

lmfao very good point !:applaud

[Dragon]

Mary Elizabeth Winstead. No I don't know who she is but there's a thread nominating her for MJ.

[NewYorkSpider]

Mary Elizabeth Winstead. No I don't know who she is but there's a thread nominating her for MJ.

She was the girl in Live Free Or Die Hard. John McClane's daughter. She would make a perfect MJ.

[FaT_tONle]

That's what I call "Good casting".

I gotto check out this Spiderman musical...

[SP1D3RxV3N0M]

That's what I call, "flat chested." :cwink:

Have you seen the actress playing MJ this days?

[Sentinel X]

That's what I call, "flat chested." :cwink:
True....but she is still leagues better than Kirsten "sagging granny boobs" Dunst. :o.

I still say Mary Elizabeth Winstead is the perfect Mary Jane (look-wise)...her acting is kind of bad though, Evan Rachael Wood is a better actress so....?

Ill be happy when they get rid of Dunst. Im now convinced anyone can do better than her.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

Raimi Lets Go Some More Spidey 4 News

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/articles/7086.jpg
Who is Peter Parker? Is the director interested in the return of Kirsten Dunst? What will the tone of Spider-Man 4http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=7086#) be? All these questions are at least touched on by the Webslinger's director.
Whether you believe in the hype or not, people are hammering for any Spider-Man 4 movie (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=7086#) news. With rumors running around that Kirsten Dunst will not return for the 4th installment to Bruce Campbell playing a fan favorite villain in Mystero, Sam Raimi sheds a little light on what actually is happening and puts some speculation to rest.

Raimi does not seem to be looking to mold Spider-Man 4 from the success of TDK. Instead Raimi wants to delve deeper into the character that is Peter Parker. Raimi goes on to say: "I hope we don't react to these very good and sometimes bad superhero movies (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=7086#) around us. I hope that we just take ever deeper into the truth of who Peter Parker really is," Raimi said. "As a human being and the unique character, and that we celebrate that, which is a lot of the reason I want to make this next picture. I still believe I have an understanding of Peter Parker as the character that I have not quite put onto the screen yet."

Truth be told Spider-Manhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=7086#) 4 would not be as good of a movie as it could be if the entire tone of it was dark. The dark tone worked for TDK because that's what Batman is. Spidey is a smart mouthed, wisecracking crime fighter. We need to see more of that in Spider-Man 4. Spider-Man basically is the most annoying New Yorker you know that could web you up and make you feel bad about it at the same time.

According to Raimi if screenwriter David Lindsay-Abaire delivers a dark, edgy toned script then that's the kind of movie Raimi will make, if the screenplay goes into a different direction then that's what Raimi will follow. One thing is for sure, fans do not want a wishy washy Spider-Man any more. We have seen what happens to a emotional wreck that has super powers, lets move on. Time for a solid Spider-Man movie with at the most 2 villains that are properly introduced on screen without making it look like one or the other should not be there.

Raimi goes on to say that soon he will be meeting with Kirsten Dunsthttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=7086#) about reprising her role as Mary Jane. Sam Raimi and Star Toby Mcguire have signed the dotted line for Spider-Man 4, no such luck for Ms. Dunst.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

She was the girl in Live Free Or Die Hard. John McClane's daughter. She would make a perfect MJ.

lets not forget the sexy ass cheerleader in death proof oh and she was also in sky high.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

Have you seen the actress playing MJ this days?


yeah she is looking really horrible these days.... she hasnt been signed on yet for the fourth which could be both good news and bad news... good news is that I heard she isnt interested in acting anymore and could be replaced... bad news.. she hasnt done a good film since spider-man 3 lol so this could be her come back or as we would all say CRAP back.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

True....but she is still leagues better than Kirsten "sagging granny boobs" Dunst. :o.

I still say Mary Elizabeth Winstead is the perfect Mary Jane (look-wise)...her acting is kind of bad though, Evan Rachael Wood is a better actress so....?

Ill be happy when they get rid of Dunst. Im now convinced anyone can do better than her.

well evan rachel wood is a better actress but she is already casted to play mj in the musical so I HIGHLY doubt that sony would get her to play in the fourth and fifth film. All you have left is mary winstead and I really think that she can pull it off. Of at least get a really good actress with red hair this time lol. I would go with alicia witt who was sam raimi's first choice but, I am not sure that would work out at all.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa65/thehyrulehero88/Alicia%20Witt/AliciaWitt_K39.jpg

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

opps... that picture kinda came out way too big sorry ! ! !

[venom892]

Raimi Lets Go Some More Spidey 4 News

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/articles/7086.jpg
Who is Peter Parker? Is the director interested in the return of Kirsten Dunst? What will the tone of Spider-Man 4http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=7086#) be? All these questions are at least touched on by the Webslinger's director.
Whether you believe in the hype or not, people are hammering for any Spider-Man 4 movie (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=7086#) news. With rumors running around that Kirsten Dunst will not return for the 4th installment to Bruce Campbell playing a fan favorite villain in Mystero, Sam Raimi sheds a little light on what actually is happening and puts some speculation to rest.

Raimi does not seem to be looking to mold Spider-Man 4 from the success of TDK. Instead Raimi wants to delve deeper into the character that is Peter Parker. Raimi goes on to say: "I hope we don't react to these very good and sometimes bad superhero movies (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=7086#) around us. I hope that we just take ever deeper into the truth of who Peter Parker really is," Raimi said. "As a human being and the unique character, and that we celebrate that, which is a lot of the reason I want to make this next picture. I still believe I have an understanding of Peter Parker as the character that I have not quite put onto the screen yet."

Truth be told Spider-Manhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=7086#) 4 would not be as good of a movie as it could be if the entire tone of it was dark. The dark tone worked for TDK because that's what Batman is. Spidey is a smart mouthed, wisecracking crime fighter. We need to see more of that in Spider-Man 4. Spider-Man basically is the most annoying New Yorker you know that could web you up and make you feel bad about it at the same time.

According to Raimi if screenwriter David Lindsay-Abaire delivers a dark, edgy toned script then that's the kind of movie Raimi will make, if the screenplay goes into a different direction then that's what Raimi will follow. One thing is for sure, fans do not want a wishy washy Spider-Man any more. We have seen what happens to a emotional wreck that has super powers, lets move on. Time for a solid Spider-Man movie with at the most 2 villains that are properly introduced on screen without making it look like one or the other should not be there.

Raimi goes on to say that soon he will be meeting with Kirsten Dunsthttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=7086#) about reprising her role as Mary Jane. Sam Raimi and Star Toby Mcguire have signed the dotted line for Spider-Man 4, no such luck for Ms. Dunst.I'm crossing my fingers for no Dunst.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

I'm crossing my fingers for no Dunst.

same here and much as she is a sweet heart, she just didnt seem to really care that much in the third film. her acting was really bland... I think with all of the bad press she is getting with her character in the third film she might not even return. The odds are really looking good towards her returning though with sam and tobey coming back. I am just crossing my fingers on this one !

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

Kirsten Dunst's Spider-Man 4 Warning (http://intogossip.blogspot.com/2007/04/kirsten-dunsts-spider-man-4-warning.html)

Kirsten Dunst believes 'Spider-Man 4' will be a flop if she and Tobey Maguire don't star in it.

The actress - who plays Mary Jane Watson, the love interest of the superhero's alter-ego Peter Parker, in the hit movie series - insists any attempt to continue the franchise without her, Tobey - who plays the web-slinger - and director Sam Raimi would be a box-office disaster.

"Audiences aren't stupid. It'd be a big flop without me, Tobey or Sam."

She added: "That would really not be the smartest move. But they already know that."

Dunst and Maguire have both distanced themselves from a fourth movie, with the pair admitting they would like to pursue other roles.

Maguire said: "I feel like this film is kind of a natural conclusion to a lot of stuff that's happened in the first two movies. It kind of feels like a natural trilogy. I'm not going to make more just because they've been successful."

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

this is what kirsten dunst looks like now, this was taken in New York City in Feb of this year just incase anyone was wondering what she looks like nowadays...


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[Adrian89]

Kirsten Dunst's Spider-Man 4 Warning (http://intogossip.blogspot.com/2007/04/kirsten-dunsts-spider-man-4-warning.html)

Kirsten Dunst believes 'Spider-Man 4' will be a flop if she and Tobey Maguire don't star in it.

"Audiences aren't stupid. It'd be a big flop without me, Tobey or Sam."
What a stupid afirmation. Maybe it's available only for the brainless fans who can't see Spider-Man without this crew and then when they get a new crew, which would also do a good job or even better, all the fans are gonna be happy and can't imagine better without the new one.

She added: "That would really not be the smartest move. But they already know that."
Casting you in the first place wasn't the smartest move my dear Kirsten! :hehe:

Maguire said: "I feel like this film is kind of a natural conclusion to a lot of stuff that's happened in the first two movies. It kind of feels like a natural trilogy. I'm not going to make more just because they've been successful."
No, he will do it for money though. And it's true, because he will be in SM4.

this is what kirsten dunst looks like now, this was taken in New York City in Feb of this year just incase anyone was wondering what she looks like nowadays...
Doesn't matter. Nowadays they can hide everything with the help of computers. Sad indeed.

[LightningFlash]

Raimi does not seem to be looking to mold Spider-Man 4 from the success of TDK. Instead Raimi wants to delve deeper into the character that is Peter Parker. Raimi goes on to say: "I hope we don't react to these very good and sometimes bad superhero movies (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=7086#) around us. I hope that we just take ever deeper into the truth of who Peter Parker really is," Raimi said. "As a human being and the unique character, and that we celebrate that, which is a lot of the reason I want to make this next picture. I still believe I have an understanding of Peter Parker as the character that I have not quite put onto the screen yet."

He doesn't want to mention how bad Spider-Man 3 sucked, haha.

"Audiences aren't stupid. It'd be a big flop without me, Tobey or Sam."

She added: "That would really not be the smartest move. But they already know that."


You're right Kirsten, audiences aren't stupid. That's why they weren't watching the movie just to see you, they were watching it because it's about SPIDER-MAN.

If we lose you, it won't be a drastic loss.

Actually, it'll be a big gain.

[Dragon]

opps... that picture kinda came out way too big sorry ! ! !


Yeah, dude. You should really resize it. It's a pain loading this page because of that ginormous pic of someone who's not going to be in the film in the first place.

[smoothbody]

So, is Kirsten Dunst coming back or what? If not then let's get the ball rolling on Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

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She is with out a doubt Mary Jane!!!! Mary E. Winstead would bring a breath of fresh air to this crumbling franchise!!!

[chaseter]

And she isn't fugly so :up::up:

[snakerobotpodiu]

They are NOT going to recast MJ. If they are meeting with her at such an early stage, it is because they are trying to find out whether or not to inlcude her in the script.

[chaseter]

MJ will be in the script period. You don't take a major character from the series and then just suddenly not include them because the actress won't commit. If they do that, people will go WTF!? like they did with Nightcrawler being absent in X3. If they do leave out MJ, the one line of dialogue to inform us why she isn't there will be cheese worthy, forced, and contrived. They would recast, they should recast.

[dark_b]

They are NOT going to recast MJ. If they are meeting with her at such an early stage, it is because they are trying to find out whether or not to inlcude her in the script.the worst part is a lot of people dont think she is good looking. she is not acting very good. she gets a big paycheck.

a dream job for her

[chaseter]

No one really cared that Rachel Dawes was recast for TDK. No one would really care if MJ was recasted.

[dark_b]

No one really cared that Rachel Dawes was recast for TDK. No one would really care if MJ was recasted.does she really have big fans?

the studio thinks that raimi,tobey and dunst need to come back. i think spiderman the name,raimi the director and tobey the main actor only need to come back. i seriously think that noone cares for dunst.

are there any statistics that they like her?

[LightningFlash]

Drug dealers.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

Yeah, dude. You should really resize it. It's a pain loading this page because of that ginormous pic of someone who's not going to be in the film in the first place.

how do I re-size ?

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

MJ will be in the script period. You don't take a major character from the series and then just suddenly not include them because the actress won't commit. If they do that, people will go WTF!? like they did with Nightcrawler being absent in X3. If they do leave out MJ, the one line of dialogue to inform us why she isn't there will be cheese worthy, forced, and contrived. They would recast, they should recast.

they could easily have her in LA for modeling or acting I mean the fourth wilk take place a few years after the events from the last so alot could have changed. Maybe a time for peter and gwen ? they gotta finish that storyline. maybe have peter on the phone with her or something.

[Dragon]

how do I re-size ?

If you downloaded it you can use photoshop or a windows program like Paint to reduce the size. But I'm sure you can find the same pic online in a smaller scale. Hell, PM me the pic and I'll resize it for ya.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

If you downloaded it you can use photoshop or a windows program like Paint to reduce the size. But I'm sure you can find the same pic online in a smaller scale. Hell, PM me the pic and I'll resize it for ya.

I know how to resize it that way lol, i meant on the post how do I resize it to fix it or is it too late ?

[Dragon]

Just edit your post as you would if there was a typo, and change te url to the smaller pic.

[Dragon]

Since I double posted I'll endorse Danneel Harris as a recast for MJ, since she actually looks like comic images of the character.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/DragonGD/DanneelHar_Ausse_9513958_400.jpg

Not that Sam Raimi gives a rat's patoot what fnas think, however.

[FaT_tONle]

I don't think they will recast... if Sony is pressured I think they will... but the script will probably be revised to cut down MJ's role if Dunst is a no show. She won't be the main love interest IMO. I think they can get a cameo out of her if that's all they can get... and that would be more than enough.

[Dragon]

If Sony was going to recast Peter in Spidey 2, they'll certainly recast MJ if Kirsten beomces more trougble than she's worth.
Raimi has already said he wants MJ in the script so she'll likely have a thick part. Since these movies are "all about a girl" unfortunately, it's extremely unlikely that MJ will be reduced to a cameo.

[FaT_tONle]

Well sometimes you need to make a change... if Bryce doesn't come back I don't see them using Gwen either. Probably someone like Felicia would step in. Or Gwen could be back for all we know. You have a couple of decent options back there. I don't see the problem of discarding MJ for the L.A gig... it's a perfectly reasonable, plausible plot device. And even if it's not a cameo... you could drastically cut that role down if necessary.

[Dragon]

Well sometimes you need to make a change... if Bryce doesn't come back I don't see them using Gwen either. Probably someone like Felicia would step in. Or Gwen could be back for all we know. You have a couple of decent options back there. I don't see the problem of discarding MJ for the L.A gig... it's a perfectly reasonable, plausible plot device. And even if it's not a cameo... you could drastically cut that role down if necessary.

That's not the point. It's what Raimi (who has total creative control) wants to do. Personally I would love to have Bryce come back and Gwen as the new love interest. But we know that Raimi didn't want Gwen in 3 either. He is, for better or worse (mostly worse) fascinated with MJ as portrayed by Dunst. So that's what we're stuck with. I have no doubt he'll recast the part if Dunst proves troublesome, but he wants MJ there regardless.

[LightningFlash]

Since I double posted I'll endorse Danneel Harris as a recast for MJ, since she actually looks like comic images of the character.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/DragonGD/DanneelHar_Ausse_9513958_400.jpg

Not that Sam Raimi gives a rat's patoot what fnas think, however.

Now she is what you call amazing.

Maybe Raimi just doesn't like attractive women.

But the loophole is Bryce Dallas Howard..although, maybe it wasn't Raimi's decision to hire her, lol.

[FaT_tONle]

That's not the point. It's what Raimi (who has total creative control) wants to do. Personally I would love to have Bryce come back and Gwen as the new love interest. But we know that Raimi didn't want Gwen in 3 either. He is, for better or worse (mostly worse) fascinated with MJ as portrayed by Dunst. So that's what we're stuck with. I have no doubt he'll recast the part if Dunst proves troublesome, but he wants MJ there regardless.

He didn't want Gwen in there because he knew the fate of the character and it didn't make sense to him to introduce her in the series at that point in time. Who says he is oppsed to all other love interests? We don't know that definitively. Sure Gwen could have had a bigger role but there were just too many characters to go around and not enough screentime for another love interest. But I have no doubt Sam will think about using a different love interest if he is reluctant to recast (which he has expressed). And we know he is not writing the script so maybe the writers will change the story depending on Dunst's decision. Maybe Sony/Raimi see this as the last installment in the series and they just stick with what works with them even if that means recasting MJ to complete that love story. But they could very well switch it up even if this is intended to be the last, which it probably isn't.

[Dragon]

He didn't want Gwen in there because he knew the fate of the character and it didn't make sense to him to introduce her in the series at that point in time.

He wasn't concerned about Gwen's fate. You'll recall at the time of Bryce's casting announcement, Sam said that the movies have their own continuity and didn't need to follow the comics. He was opposed to using Gwen because he had already "Gwen-ified" MJ. MJ, as we know her in the films is an amalgamtion of Mary Jane and Gwen. It was Laura Ziskin who wanted Peter's flirtatious labmate to be named Gwen Stacy. And they then tied her to the police Captain, naming him Stacy. In fact, movie Gwen was MJ-ified, making her, unlike the comics, focused on a modelling career. I think unfortuantely that Sam and crew succeeded too well, as Bryce's Gwen easily eclipsed Dunst's sullen MJ. This is likely why Gwen, orginally scripted to be in the final battle was removed. She'd have completely blown MJ off the screen, something Sam didn't want. Again, I'd love to see Bryce come back. But that's not likely to happen.

Who says he is oppsed to all other love interests? We don't know that definitively.

Raimi did.

Sure Gwen could have had a bigger role but there were just too many characters to go around and not enough screentime for another love interest.

It wasn't about time. Gwen was never meant to be a new love interest. She was merely there for exactly what she was used for; To cause a rift between Peter and MJ which would be resolved.

But I have no doubt Sam will think about using a different love interest if he is reluctant to recast (which he has expressed). And we know he is not writing the script so maybe the writers will change the story depending on Dunst's decision. Maybe Sony/Raimi see this as the last installment in the series and they just stick with what works with them even if that means recasting MJ to complete that love story. But they could very well switch it up even if this is intended to be the last, which it probably isn't.


How can you have no doubt about Raimi thinking of a new love interest when he's said he won't? As for another screenwriter being onbaord, there's been a screewriter on every film. Raimi has never written the scripts, only worked out the storyline. And make no mistake- the writer is only putting the words to paper. Raimi has final approval of whatever he writes. That's what creative control is. The writer certainly will not add anything he knows Raimi doesn't approve of.

In Sam's mind the relationship between Peter and MJ is central to the narrative. Every film has revolved around the relationship. So again, if Dunst doesn't do the film, they'll simply recast the role, just as they were seconds from hiring Jake Gyllenhal to replace Tobey on Spidey 2. Raimi had approved his hring. It's just that Tobey and his power-broker father-in-law stepped up to fight for the part.

The real problem here is that while I've enjoyed all of the Spidey films (Including the very, very flawed 3), Sam simply, despite his belief to the contrary, doesn't really get Peter Parker and his world. He sees Peter as merely being a nerd who gains super powers and a sense of responsibilty. But Peter is more complex than that. For example, if you go back to Amazing Fantasy #15, you'll note that Peter was never shy. He went up and asked girls out with no sign of fear. He struck out, but he still tried. Becoming Spidey only emboldened him.

The other unfortunate thing is his interpretation of the relationship between Peter and MJ. Despite the weakness of Spidey 3's script, MJ's progression through all three films has been razor sharp. And that's the problem. MJ started as an insecure girl tainted in her relationships by an abusive father, and by 3 had grown into a full-fledged *****. Her line about wanting to spend her life singing onstage with Peter in the front row is extremely telling of how she sees their relationship. Peter is her fanclub. Her cheering section. The one who sees her the way she wants to be seen. No wonder she begrudged his growing celebrity status. He (Like Flash, Harry and John Jr. before him) was eclipsing her and she couldn't handle that.

The other irony is that while Sam says he's more interersted in Peter than Spidey, it's his visual realization of Spidey and his foes that makes these films stand out. As Roger Ebert said, if these films were merely about Peter and MJ, they wouldn't be anything special.

[hatebox]

In my opinion, MJ was easily the worst thing about this series - tolerable in the the first film but astoundingly annoying and whiney in the second two. Making us like and care about the character that the hero also loves is so important, they just have to get that aspect right in the next film.

[Doctor Jones]

Now she is what you call amazing.

Maybe Raimi just doesn't like attractive women.

But the loophole is Bryce Dallas Howard..although, maybe it wasn't Raimi's decision to hire her, lol.

Doesn't like attractive women? Have you seen the female extras in the SM films?

Maybe it was and it didn't have to happen until Zisken told him to put Gwen in the film.

[Doctor Jones]

Since I double posted I'll endorse Danneel Harris as a recast for MJ, since she actually looks like comic images of the character.



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Not that Sam Raimi gives a rat's patoot what fnas think, however.

Yeah, she LOOKS like her, doens't mean she'll do good. :whatever: Why the hell do people still think like this?

And doens't listen to the fans? He included Venom for **** sake when he was never going to be in it form the beginning.

[arachnid-guy]

He wasn't concerned about Gwen's fate. You'll recall at the time of Bryce's casting announcement, Sam said that the movies have their own continuity and didn't need to follow the comics. He was opposed to using Gwen because he had already "Gwen-ified" MJ. MJ, as we know her in the films is an amalgamtion of Mary Jane and Gwen. It was Laura Ziskin who wanted Peter's flirtatious labmate to be named Gwen Stacy. And they then tied her to the police Captain, naming him Stacy. In fact, movie Gwen was MJ-ified, making her, unlike the comics, focused on a modelling career. I think unfortuantely that Sam and crew succeeded too well, as Bryce's Gwen easily eclipsed Dunst's sullen MJ. This is likely why Gwen, orginally scripted to be in the final battle was removed. She'd have completely blown MJ off the screen, something Sam didn't want. Again, I'd love to see Bryce come back. But that's not likely to happen.

How can you have no doubt about Raimi thinking of a new love interest when he's said he won't? As for another screenwriter being onbaord, there's been a screewriter on every film. Raimi has never written the scripts, only worked out the storyline. And make no mistake- the writer is only putting the words to paper. Raimi has final approval of whatever he writes. That's what creative control is. The writer certainly will not add anything he knows Raimi doesn't approve of.

In Sam's mind the relationship between Peter and MJ is central to the narrative. Every film has revolved around the relationship. So again, if Dunst doesn't do the film, they'll simply recast the role, just as they were seconds from hiring Jake Gyllenhal to replace Tobey on Spidey 2. Raimi had approved his hring. It's just that Tobey and his power-broker father-in-law stepped up to fight for the part.

The real problem here is that while I've enjoyed all of the Spidey films (Including the very, very flawed 3), Sam simply, despite his belief to the contrary, doesn't really get Peter Parker and his world. He sees Peter as merely being a nerd who gains super powers and a sense of responsibilty. But Peter is more complex than that. For example, if you go back to Amazing Fantasy #15, you'll note that Peter was never shy. He went up and asked girls out with no sign of fear. He struck out, but he still tried. Becoming Spidey only emboldened him.

The other unfortunate thing is his interpretation of the relationship between Peter and MJ. Despite the weakness of Spidey 3's script, MJ's progression through all three films has been razor sharp. And that's the problem. MJ started as an insecure girl tainted in her relationships by an abusive father, and by 3 had grown into a full-fledged *****. Her line about wanting to spend her life singing onstage with Peter in the front row is extremely telling of how she sees their relationship. Peter is her fanclub. Her cheering section. The one who sees her the way she wants to be seen. No wonder she begrudged his growing celebrity status. He (Like Flash, Harry and John Jr. before him) was eclipsing her and she couldn't handle that.

The other irony is that while Sam says he's more interersted in Peter than Spidey, it's his visual realization of Spidey and his foes that makes these films stand out. As Roger Ebert said, if these films were merely about Peter and MJ, they wouldn't be anything special.

I never thought about it in this way before. Great post!

[Kahoot]

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa94/TheDailyBugle/erw3.pngForget MJ that is the live action Jessica Rabbit!

[Crook]

I think you need to go look up Jessica Rabbit again. :funny:

[dark_b]

jessica biel is the live action jessica rabbit.

[Dragon]

Yeah, she LOOKS like her, doens't mean she'll do good. :whatever: Why the hell do people still think like this?

You mean as oppsoed to casting someone who doesn't look like her and still doesn't do good?

MJ as written in these movies isn't a very complex role. Any actress with basic skills can handle it. Who knows? Maybe that's why Kirsten hasn't been very good in the role. It doesn'y challenge her.

And doens't listen to the fans? He included Venom for **** sake when he was never going to be in it form the beginning.

No.. He listened to Avi Arad. And the results left much to be desired. Most Venom fans certainly weren't happy with the what Sam produced.

[dark_b]

true true. its not like her role in the movie is hard to do.

[Crook]

Yes, but at the same time it is very easy to screw up. I wouldn't say Rachel is a very tough role either, but Holmes still managed to come off as wooden.

You don't need a seasoned actress, but you need a capable one.

[Dragon]

Yes, but at the same time it is very easy to screw up. I wouldn't say Rachel is a very tough role either, but Holmes still managed to come off as wooden.

You don't need a seasoned actress, but you need a capable one.

Katie Holmes is wooden actress, thus not possessing the basic skills I mentioned above. She's also very boring as far as looks. But then Rachel isn't a great role to begin with. Maggie Gyllenhall may have been better in her performance than Holmes, but Rachel simply isn't that likable.

[FaT_tONle]

Raimi did.

When did Raimi say he was opposed to using other love interests? Things can obviously change.


How can you have no doubt about Raimi thinking of a new love interest when he's said he won't? As for another screenwriter being onbaord, there's been a screewriter on every film. Raimi has never written the scripts, only worked out the storyline. And make no mistake- the writer is only putting the words to paper. Raimi has final approval of whatever he writes. That's what creative control is. The writer certainly will not add anything he knows Raimi doesn't approve of.

Then why was Raimi talking about how he was going to gravitate to whatever the tone of the script is... I am sure he can make changes, but he didn't sound like he has intentions of making drastic changes to the tone or the story in general unless it was something like the return of Venom. I don't think he'll have a problem with other females in Parker's life.

In Sam's mind the relationship between Peter and MJ is central to the narrative. Every film has revolved around the relationship. So again, if Dunst doesn't do the film, they'll simply recast the role, just as they were seconds from hiring Jake Gyllenhal to replace Tobey on Spidey 2. Raimi had approved his hring. It's just that Tobey and his power-broker father-in-law stepped up to fight for the part.

Again, you are just assuming they intend on sticking to the same formulas... with Harry out of the picture it puts a big dent in that relationship. They need someone else to make it interesting. As of now there is nothing left to flesh out unless they just want to culminate the relationship as it stands right now with a happily ever after type ending.



The other irony is that while Sam says he's more interersted in Peter than Spidey, it's his visual realization of Spidey and his foes that makes these films stand out. As Roger Ebert said, if these films were merely about Peter and MJ, they wouldn't be anything special.


Which is what I'm saying.

[Dragon]

When did Raimi say he was opposed to using other love interests? Things can obviously change.

From March 15:
And will Kirsten Dunst return as Mary Jane Watson? If it was up to Raimi, definitely: "I’m hoping she'll be in it and I'm planning on having a story with her in it... It wouldn't be the Spider-Man series without her

Again, I'd love to see Bryce/Gwen back. But Raimi sees it differently.

Then why was Raimi talking about how he was going to gravitate to whatever the tone of the script is... I am sure he can make changes, but he didn't sound like he has intentions of making drastic changes to the tone or the story in general unless it was something like the return of Venom. I don't think he'll have a problem with other females in Parker's life.

See above. Raimi gives the writer his marching orders. The writer comes up with the dialogue and pacing. If that works, then they have a script they can work with. If not, let's remember this guy is the second writer hired on Spidey 4. They'll probably do what they've been doing, which is hand the script over to Alvin Sargeant (Ziskin's husband) for polishing. Either way, the writer isn't going to introduce elements that Raimi hasn't already approved of. If he says MJ is the love interest, she stays the love interest.

Again, you are just assuming they intend on sticking to the same formulas... with Harry out of the picture it puts a big dent in that relationship. They need someone else to make it interesting. As of now there is nothing left to flesh out unless they just want to culminate the relationship as it stands right now with a happily ever after type ending.

Well by the end of Spidey 3 their relationship was hardly on solid ground. There can certainly be new twists and turns. I'm sure for example, MJ is tired of being the hostage villains use to draw Spider-Man out. So this is a rift they'll have to deal with. Peter should have trusrt issues with MJ, since she went behind his back (As she's done with every guy she's been with). Further, she didn't believe in him. She's seen Peter overcome great odds before, yet she automatically believed that Harry would beat him. Even though I doubt this will be addressed since Raimi seems to thinks the problems in 3 were all Peter's fault.

Which is what I'm saying.

Then we're in agreement. But the point is, will Sam see it that way. It's just like the early question of organic webshooters. There are equal arguments for and against them, but Sam is ultimately going to do what he wants.

[The Slang]

I like the idea of MJ being absent in the next film. Have her go off and pursue her singing or acting or what ever it is she does. This will give the audience some alone time with a brooding -just my luck- spider-man who can make cracks like 'isnt the hero supposed to get the girl?' Also Parker would be free to consider another girlfriend, working in some more supporting characters. And if you really must you could surprise everyone by having MJ come back for the last half of the film. Actually I like that better because it seems more likely for Raimi to consider... Have MJ gone atleast for half the film.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

Kirsten Dunst May Not Return as MJ in Spider-Man 4 Movie

A UK newspaper reports that both Dunst and director Raimi are uncertain over MJ's future in the Spider-ManHYPERLINK \l "" (http://forums.superherohype.com/l) franchise...
UK newspaper, The Daily Express reports that the 26-year old, who has played love interest Mary Jane Watson in all three previous movies (http://forums.superherohype.com/l), is said to have stalled on agreeing to appear in the fourth, which will again star Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker/Spider-Man.

A Hollywood insider told the paper, "It had been presumed that Kirsten would sign up for the fourth but she's still not agreed. She needs to be assured that the story is going to be a strong one, in terms of her character. The films (http://forums.superherohype.com/l) clearly wouldnt be the same without her."

Spider-Man director Sam Raimi is due to hold a private meeting with Dunst in a last ditch attempt to persuade her to rejoin the cast. "I'm hoping that she is going to come on board and I've got a meeting coming up with her," he confirmed whilst promoting his current film (http://forums.superherohype.com/l) Drag Me To Hell, "I think she would like to but I dont want to speak on her behalf."

I personally would rather not see Kirsten or MJ and instead have the film focus more on Peter as Spider-Man hopefully skipping the numerous dancing scenes that wasted screentime in Spider-Man 3! What do you think - should MJ return or should Gwen instead be the attention of Spidey's affections?

[Kahoot]

I think you need to go look up Jessica Rabbit again. :funny:
You don't see it in her face and hair? So the bra needs some stuffing, that's easily done.

[Catman]

Kirsten Dunst May Not Return as MJ in Spider-Man 4 Movie

A UK newspaper reports that both Dunst and director Raimi are uncertain over MJ's future in the Spider-ManHYPERLINK \l "" (http://forums.superherohype.com/l) franchise...
UK newspaper, The Daily Express reports that the 26-year old, who has played love interest Mary Jane Watson in all three previous movies (http://forums.superherohype.com/l), is said to have stalled on agreeing to appear in the fourth, which will again star Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker/Spider-Man.

A Hollywood insider told the paper, "It had been presumed that Kirsten would sign up for the fourth but she's still not agreed. She needs to be assured that the story is going to be a strong one, in terms of her character. The films (http://forums.superherohype.com/l) clearly wouldnt be the same without her."

Spider-Man director Sam Raimi is due to hold a private meeting with Dunst in a last ditch attempt to persuade her to rejoin the cast. "I'm hoping that she is going to come on board and I've got a meeting coming up with her," he confirmed whilst promoting his current film (http://forums.superherohype.com/l) Drag Me To Hell, "I think she would like to but I dont want to speak on her behalf."

I personally would rather not see Kirsten or MJ and instead have the film focus more on Peter as Spider-Man hopefully skipping the numerous dancing scenes that wasted screentime in Spider-Man 3! What do you think - should MJ return or should Gwen instead be the attention of Spidey's affections?

Winstead! Winstead! Winstead!

[Crook]

You don't see it in her face and hair? So the bra needs some stuffing, that's easily done.
Sure, I see it....from the neck-up. Miss Rabbit is known for a voluptuous body, which with all due respect to Evan, her frame alone isn't sufficient enough. Much less the T&A. :o

Winstead! Winstead! Winstead!
Give it up man, lol. If this were a reboot, I'd be all for it. MEW would be so out of place across from the aging Maguire.

[TheSlag]

Kirsten Dunst May Not Return as MJ in Spider-Man 4 Movie

A UK newspaper reports that both Dunst and director Raimi are uncertain over MJ's future in the Spider-ManHYPERLINK \l "" (http://forums.superherohype.com/l) franchise...
UK newspaper, The Daily Express reports that the 26-year old, who has played love interest Mary Jane Watson in all three previous movies (http://forums.superherohype.com/l), is said to have stalled on agreeing to appear in the fourth, which will again star Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker/Spider-Man.

A Hollywood insider told the paper, "It had been presumed that Kirsten would sign up for the fourth but she's still not agreed. She needs to be assured that the story is going to be a strong one, in terms of her character. The films (http://forums.superherohype.com/l) clearly wouldnt be the same without her."

Spider-Man director Sam Raimi is due to hold a private meeting with Dunst in a last ditch attempt to persuade her to rejoin the cast. "I'm hoping that she is going to come on board and I've got a meeting coming up with her," he confirmed whilst promoting his current film (http://forums.superherohype.com/l) Drag Me To Hell, "I think she would like to but I dont want to speak on her behalf."

I personally would rather not see Kirsten or MJ and instead have the film focus more on Peter as Spider-Man hopefully skipping the numerous dancing scenes that wasted screentime in Spider-Man 3! What do you think - should MJ return or should Gwen instead be the attention of Spidey's affections?

She is 26!?!?!?!?!?!?!.... Man... she can easily pass for mid to late 30's IMO. Sad.

Recast. Preferably both MJ and Gwen.

[TheSlag]

OK! The more I think about this, the more pissed I am getting.

"She needs to be assured that the story is going to be a strong one, in terms of her character."

SM1... ALL ABOUT A GIRL.. THAT GIRL!!!
SM2... Peter loses his powers cause he CANNOT have MJ
SM3... Peter goes geeky sleezy coffee house/jazz dancer dude and toys with Gwen... ALL .. to make MJ jealous..

DOES SHE FREAKIN KNOW the name of the movie is SPIDER-MAN?!?!?!?!?

DOES RAIMI????? Sheesh


"The films clearly wouldnt be the same without her."


TRUE. They would be BETTER!

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

She is 26!?!?!?!?!?!?!.... Man... she can easily pass for mid to late 30's IMO. Sad.

Recast. Preferably both MJ and Gwen.

what in the blue webs was wrong with bryce dallas howard ? she was an awesome gwen stacy ! Kirsten just doesent seem to want to be involved anymore, RECAST MJ !

Mary Winstead anyone lol ?

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[FaT_tONle]

From March 15:
And will Kirsten Dunst return as Mary Jane Watson? If it was up to Raimi, definitely: "I’m hoping she'll be in it and I'm planning on having a story with her in it... It wouldn't be the Spider-Man series without her

Again, I'd love to see Bryce/Gwen back. But Raimi sees it differently.



See above. Raimi gives the writer his marching orders. The writer comes up with the dialogue and pacing. If that works, then they have a script they can work with. If not, let's remember this guy is the second writer hired on Spidey 4. They'll probably do what they've been doing, which is hand the script over to Alvin Sargeant (Ziskin's husband) for polishing. Either way, the writer isn't going to introduce elements that Raimi hasn't already approved of. If he says MJ is the love interest, she stays the love interest.


Again... where in that quote does it say he wouldn't use another love interest even if MJ still has a role? I am not saying Raimi won't recast... but can I see MJ's role cut dramatically with someone else in a similar role?? Still a good chance IMO.

[Joker]

Kirsten Dunst May Not Return as MJ in Spider-Man 4 Movie

A UK newspaper reports that both Dunst and director Raimi are uncertain over MJ's future in the Spider-ManHYPERLINK \l "" (http://forums.superherohype.com/l) franchise...
UK newspaper, The Daily Express reports that the 26-year old, who has played love interest Mary Jane Watson in all three previous movies (http://forums.superherohype.com/l), is said to have stalled on agreeing to appear in the fourth, which will again star Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker/Spider-Man.

A Hollywood insider told the paper, "It had been presumed that Kirsten would sign up for the fourth but she's still not agreed. She needs to be assured that the story is going to be a strong one, in terms of her character. The films (http://forums.superherohype.com/l) clearly wouldnt be the same without her."

Spider-Man director Sam Raimi is due to hold a private meeting with Dunst in a last ditch attempt to persuade her to rejoin the cast. "I'm hoping that she is going to come on board and I've got a meeting coming up with her," he confirmed whilst promoting his current film (http://forums.superherohype.com/l) Drag Me To Hell, "I think she would like to but I dont want to speak on her behalf."

I personally would rather not see Kirsten or MJ and instead have the film focus more on Peter as Spider-Man hopefully skipping the numerous dancing scenes that wasted screentime in Spider-Man 3! What do you think - should MJ return or should Gwen instead be the attention of Spidey's affections?

Best news ever. I'd be glad to see Dunst gone for good!

[Dragon]

[/B]

Again... where in that quote does it say he wouldn't use another love interest even if MJ still has a role? I am not saying Raimi won't recast... but can I see MJ's role cut dramatically with someone else in a similar role?? Still a good chance IMO.


Well, I seriously doubt he'd bring the point up at all if MJ/Dunst wasn't a substantial role in the film. Especially since Dunst's main concern is how important her part is. Knowing this, Raimi likely wouldn't discuss the issue if he felt he wasn't going to be able to give her a satisfying part.

Further, we have the first 3 films, in which MJ is a huge part of the narrative. Even cutting down Gwen's role in 3 to make MJ's bigger. The climactic battle was supposed to feature Gwen. Raimi not only inserted MJ, but removed Gwen altogether, which actually weakened the narrative. Eddie would have wanted to display his newfound power before Gwen hoping to make her both love and fear him. But this didn't happen.

But hey- like I've been saying I'd love to see Dunst and MJ as written gone. So let's keep the dream alive.

[FaT_tONle]

Best news ever. I'd be glad to see Dunst gone for good!

Well I don't think this so called meeting has happened yet... the article is just speculating. Dunst has expressed interest as long as Raimi and Tobey were still on board. If money if the issue... considering what Sony has already ditched out... I think they'll gladly pay it.

[mjbull23]

Sounds like Dunst is posturing in order to try and negotiate a sweet deal for the next movie. She knows Raimi and Sony want her back and so she feels she can use that as leverage. Which she can.

[knockout]

Get rid of Dunst and bring in Leighton Meeister or Evan Rachel Wood.

[Catman]

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[snakeinthegear]

I approve of those pics.

I also think that MJ should be written out of the movie and have Gwen as the new love interest. Lets bring back the fact that spider-man actually has a secret identity.

[Adrian89]

Best news ever. I'd be glad to see Dunst gone for good!
I second that!!!!

But I'm not keeping my hopes up high yet.

[LightningFlash]

She is 26!?!?!?!?!?!?!.... Man... she can easily pass for mid to late 30's IMO. Sad.

She's 26?

Dang....

that's very, very, very sad...

Cocaine is a powerful drug.

[TheVileOne]

Hilarious. People will believe any ******** they will read out of a UK tabloid dirtrag and that means Dunst is gone for good.

Just like some people KNEW MJ was going to die in REDHEAD TO HEAVEN 2007!

[LightningFlash]

I think we just wished she died.

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

She's 26?

Dang....

that's very, very, very sad...

Cocaine is a powerful drug.

27 today. :o

[Demogoblin]

OK! The more I think about this, the more pissed I am getting.

"She needs to be assured that the story is going to be a strong one, in terms of her character."

SM1... ALL ABOUT A GIRL.. THAT GIRL!!!
SM2... Peter loses his powers cause he CANNOT have MJ
SM3... Peter goes geeky sleezy coffee house/jazz dancer dude and toys with Gwen... ALL .. to make MJ jealous..

DOES SHE FREAKIN KNOW the name of the movie is SPIDER-MAN?!?!?!?!?

DOES RAIMI????? Sheesh


"The films clearly wouldnt be the same without her."


TRUE. They would be BETTER!
Having the plot revolve around her isnt the same as her character being written strongly. What has MJ really done in the past few movies but be the damsel in distress and have a minor sub plot? True, its a Spider-Man movie and she isnt the lead actor but naturally she would be bored doing nothing but cry for Spider-Man to save her for three movies.

[LightningFlash]

27 today. :o

We all know what she's doing on her glorious birthday....

buy some much-needed paper...

buying some syringes....

[TheSlag]

Having the plot revolve around her isnt the same as her character being written strongly. What has MJ really done in the past few movies but be the damsel in distress and have a minor sub plot? True, its a Spider-Man movie and she isnt the lead actor but naturally she would be bored doing nothing but cry for Spider-Man to save her for three movies.

Fair enough, but what would you suggest for her character then, especially considering that the movie is the Amazing Spider-Man, and not the Amazing MJ.

Considering that the storyline of the first 3 have centered around MJ's role with Peter, I do not think she has anything to complain about.

Personally, I hope she sticks to her guns and decides to NOT be in SM4. But I doubt that seriously, as I think this is more a $$$ ploy that a "meaningful" character subplot.

[Demogoblin]

Fair enough, but what would you suggest for her character then, especially considering that the movie is the Amazing Spider-Man, and not the Amazing MJ.

Considering that the storyline of the first 3 have centered around MJ's role with Peter, I do not think she has anything to complain about.

Personally, I hope she sticks to her guns and decides to NOT be in SM4. But I doubt that seriously, as I think this is more a $$$ ploy that a "meaningful" character subplot.

She should be useful to Peter. Come up with explanations to Aunt May about why he has a Spider-Man costume in his closet. Stand between a badly injured Spidey and a bad guy. You know, have her step up to the plate. (Joker, I know you are thinking of the time Ock slapped her away in Spidey 2. :oldrazz: I want her to actually succeed in helping her hubby this time around, a la PP: Spider-Man 78. She stood between Spidey and Morbius, giving Peter time.)

[dark_b]

when i watched the ending of spiderman 2 and tehy end it with MJ looking sad i knew how her character would be written in the 3rd movie.
i think spiderman 2 is the best spiderman movie. but this shot was just bad.1 minute ago MJ is telling peter that she wants to be with him no matter what. then 1 minute later she is already sad that he goes saving people?

ok why exactly is MJ acting like she does in 3?

[Demogoblin]

when i watched the ending of spiderman 2 and tehy end it with MJ looking sad i knew how her character would be written in the 3rd movie.
i think spiderman 2 is the best spiderman movie. but this shot was just bad.1 minute ago MJ is telling peter that she wants to be with him no matter what. then 1 minute later she is already sad that he goes saving people?

ok why exactly is MJ acting like she does in 3?

I assumed she was upset that Peter was getting wrapped up in himself and getting arrogant. She wanted some attention, too and all he thought about was Spider-Man.

[Crook]

when i watched the ending of spiderman 2 and tehy end it with MJ looking sad i knew how her character would be written in the 3rd movie.
i think spiderman 2 is the best spiderman movie. but this shot was just bad.1 minute ago MJ is telling peter that she wants to be with him no matter what. then 1 minute later she is already sad that he goes saving people?
Sacrifice. She did it for love, but she doesn't exactly like the idea of it.

[Joker]

OK! The more I think about this, the more pissed I am getting.

"She needs to be assured that the story is going to be a strong one, in terms of her character."

SM1... ALL ABOUT A GIRL.. THAT GIRL!!!
SM2... Peter loses his powers cause he CANNOT have MJ
SM3... Peter goes geeky sleezy coffee house/jazz dancer dude and toys with Gwen... ALL .. to make MJ jealous..

DOES SHE FREAKIN KNOW the name of the movie is SPIDER-MAN?!?!?!?!?

DOES RAIMI????? Sheesh


"The films clearly wouldnt be the same without her."


TRUE. They would be BETTER!

LOL! Slag, your post reminded me of this:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll261/Ocklairscans/5y1bzog.gif

[Doctor Jones]

That never fails.

[Figs]

LOL! Slag, your post reminded me of this:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll261/Ocklairscans/5y1bzog.gif

LOL! I don't think I've ever seen that before.

[dark_b]

LOL! I don't think I've ever seen that before.look at hes eyes. those are the eyes of a f.... maniac :hehe:

[Figs]

look at hes eyes. those are the eyes of a f.... maniac :hehe:


Oh my god think of the captions for that look on his face.

"*****, I will strangle you!"

[Kahoot]

LOL! Slag, your post reminded me of this:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll261/Ocklairscans/5y1bzog.gif
Yeah but Toby is a total pansy. I remember when Spider-Man 3 came out they were both on Friday Night with Jonathan Ross and he must've said a whole three words and she wouldn't shut the hell up.

[Doctor Jones]

It's called being polite on late night television.

[Kahoot]

It's called being polite on late night television.
Actually it's just Americans on his show are normally blown away by him the first time and I think she'd done his show before so understood how he is.

[snakeinthegear]

when i watched the ending of spiderman 2 and tehy end it with MJ looking sad i knew how her character would be written in the 3rd movie.
i think spiderman 2 is the best spiderman movie. but this shot was just bad.1 minute ago MJ is telling peter that she wants to be with him no matter what. then 1 minute later she is already sad that he goes saving people?

ok why exactly is MJ acting like she does in 3?

I'm not a fan of the way MJ's been portrayed but I think her reaction a the end of sm2 was justified and moreso ralistic, inspite of what she was telling peter before he swung off.
She loves Peter BUT she knows as spider-man he'll always put his life in danger and of course their relationship may also suffer too, as he'll be out all the time. She may love and respect him for it but as the end of sm2 showed, she's not always going to be happy about it.

[dark_b]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txeGeVbVF3o

in the beginning its about MJ. its so true that it hurts.she was so boring . it makes me really angry how she was. she was just a b.....

[Joker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txeGeVbVF3o

in the beginning its about MJ. its so true that it hurts.she was so boring . it makes me really angry how she was. she was just a b.....

So true.

She's a terrible character. I'll never understand why Peter loves her. They have no chemistry, no common interests, and she has the morals of an alley cat.

[dark_b]

So true.

She's a terrible character. I'll never understand why Peter loves her. They have no chemistry, no common interests, and she has the morals of an alley cat.in the first movie she was IMO hot. good niples. plus he was a dork and a loser.
she was a supermodel to him and she was getting naked next to hes window :cwink:

in spiderman 3 he was able to get a lot better girls. and i dont mean hot. but more inteligent

[mjbull23]

LOL! Slag, your post reminded me of this:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll261/Ocklairscans/5y1bzog.gif

LMAO never seen this before. If looks could kill eh?

[Catman]

Who else could play MJ? We all love Winstead, but she is currently shooting Scott Pilgrim. It is possible that she couldn't play the role cause of schedule conflict. So, what other choices are out there? I've always been a fan of Rachel McAdams playing the role. Before Winstead grabbed our attention in 2007's Grindhouse, McAdams was actually my #1 choice.

[dark_b]

Who else could play MJ? We all love Winstead, but she is currently shooting Scott Pilgrim. It is possible that she couldn't play the role cause of schedule conflict. So, what other choices are out there? I've always been a fan of Rachel McAdams playing the role. Before Winstead grabbed our attention in 2007's Grindhouse, McAdams was actually my #1 choice.
people on forum when they are in a casting thread can only talk about actors that they saw playing. they can only name actors that played a similar part. and how the actors look.



plus fans really need to stop and i mean really stop always talking about redhead actors. its stupid. sorry that i said this but it is stupid. its also stupid to only talk about bald actor for lex luthor . can an actor not shave hes head? can an actress not change her hair color?

and lets face it 50% people on this forum are saying Winstead because she has red hair. just admit it because its so obvious.

[Crook]

Winstead's a brunette. :huh:

[dark_b]

Winstead's a brunette. :huh:i am not talking about original haircolor. but how they have color today or last year. she has a lot of time red so it means she is automatic MJ to some fans here.

[TheVileOne]

Man, if Dunst plays MJ again, I imagine that will mean not even buying a ticket for some.

[TheSlag]

LOL! Slag, your post reminded me of this:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll261/Ocklairscans/5y1bzog.gif

LOL! Never seen that before. And spot on Joker, great post!

Ole Kirsten throws one heck of a hip check there, she should play hockey with that hip checking ability... heck.. she has the grill work for hockey too.

You gotta love ole Snaggletooth. :cwink:

Seriously. Kirsten has always struck me as she thinks the role of MJ and the genre of this type film is beneath her. So PLEASE Kirsten, please be true to yourself and DO NOT DO SM4.

*please*

[Panthro]

I'm not a fan of the way MJ's been portrayed but I think her reaction a the end of sm2 was justified and moreso realistic, in spite of what she was telling peter before he swung off.
She loves Peter BUT she knows as spider-man he'll always put his life in danger and of course their relationship may also suffer too, as he'll be out all the time. She may love and respect him for it but as the end of sm2 showed, she's not always going to be happy about it.
Exactly.

[Adrian89]

Who else could play MJ? We all love Winstead, but she is currently shooting Scott Pilgrim. It is possible that she couldn't play the role cause of schedule conflict. So, what other choices are out there? I've always been a fan of Rachel McAdams playing the role. Before Winstead grabbed our attention in 2007's Grindhouse, McAdams was actually my #1 choice.
It's funny how people always make these choices (Angelina Jolie as Catwoman, Winstead as MJ etc), but in the end the Crew working on the film will always choose someone who is unknown or not necesarily uknown, but someone who you least expect. And Mary E. Winstead is not the only one out there who can play MJ!

[dark_b]

this was a wig?
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/252/kiki3.th.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kiki3.jpg)

[Joker]

I thought she wore a wig in the first movie?

[dark_b]

well you can notice the wig in the close up.

[Demogoblin]

Rachel Nichols. Close thread.

[OcStat]

I really don't like making predicitions on movies, or saying it "coulda woulda shoulda" been like this or that. Though I wouldn't mind MJ taking a back seat in 4...I think taking an approach similar to how it is now in Amazing Spider-Man could work, her popping up every now and then. Maybe build up Gwen if she is returning. I don't think they should be a couple; just build up their friendship to the point where Peter admires her and loves her, but isn't quite in love with her. Seeing as Peter's best friend is now dead, I think it would work to make her death still have a profound impact regardless of them being together.

[Adrian89]

LOL! Slag, your post reminded me of this:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll261/Ocklairscans/5y1bzog.gif

What a b***h she is! It fits perfectly with her role from SM3!

No Dunst for SM4 - that would be a bless!

[dark_b]

Rachel Nichols. Close thread.let me guess. becuse she has red hair in GI JOE? :hehe:

[Symbiote789]

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?sectionName=HomePage&id=73b57ef4-a526-45e0-9185-47b6d53e098a&Headline=EMSpiderman+4+%2fEMto+go+on+floor+next+Fe bruary

Kirsten says that she'll be in it if she likes the screenplay.

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Interesting. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[Project862006]

People over react in my opinion she wasn't even bad in the series she wasn't any worse than any other superhero damsel in distress.Was she great no but was just bad or terrible hell no she was fine in her role.It seems like just because she is'nt phenomenal in her role she is seen as horrible which makes me shake my head.

Also let me say this if they recast her they are freaking stupid i don't care either bring her back or get rid of the character.You don't recast someone who you have invested time in for 3 films.It is like Nolan recasting Alfred not comparing dunst to Caine but just in there respective character's importance and development.It has nothing to do with her acting you just don't recast someone who has been in 3 films i don't understand why people want a recast.Rachel Nichols yeah like she is gonna be much better gi joe she is in right yeah her standards are so high she chooses a stephen sommers picture.

[Dog Logan]

I don't think Kirsten was bad in the first two movies, she was perfect, but in SM-3 her acting went way downhill. I don't think a recast is completely necessary to the point where I'll boycott if it doesn't happen. As long as she brings something to the table I'm cool with her return.

[dark_b]

well of course it went downhill. she was using drugs,her body looked like she was on drugs.

it looked to me like she didnt want to be in the movie. but her paycheck was a i guess very big.a lot of people do movies only for money. but at least they try.

[Dog Logan]

If you're doing movies for only the money, you shouldn't be in the game of acting, because you're not putting on a good show for the people. If Dunst is off drugs and as focused as she was for the first two films, we may get the Mary Jane we all want to see. Hopefully she's as healthy as can be when it's time for the cameras to start rolling and she's got her game face on. It's not that she's a horrible or even bad actress, it's just that she isn't trying to display her talents. That's the reason I wanted a recast, but I kind of still want her board to see if she can get back to the level she needs to be at.

[zanos]

Rachel Nichols. Close thread.

I think Rachel Nichols is the hottest chick in hollywood. I've had a huge crush on her for years but I don't think she's right for the role at all and it has nothing to do with her physicality. My choice would be Daneel Harris. I believe she's a natural redhead but that has nothing to do with why I chose her. Quite frankly I think she looks better as a brunette.

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/Image/one-tree-hill/daneel-harris-movie.jpg

[The Ace of Knaves]

LOL! Slag, your post reminded me of this:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll261/Ocklairscans/5y1bzog.gif

:hehe: The look of pure hate in his eyes there. Where was this? Why did she do that?

[zanos]

I can't stop laughing at that. Her bumping him to get to the mic is not unusual though. It's the fact that it seems Maguire was going to say something and was then interupted. That doesn't make much sense because he has his own lines to read and she has hers.

[Demogoblin]

let me guess. becuse she has red hair in GI JOE? :hehe:

Nope, cause she's hot and can dye her hair. :p I'm not interested in GI Joe.

[Metal Spidey]

:hehe: The look of pure hate in his eyes there. Where was this? Why did she do that?

I can't stop laughing at that. Her bumping him to get to the mic is not unusual though. It's the fact that it seems Maguire was going to say something and was then interupted. That doesn't make much sense because he has his own lines to read and she has hers.

She could've did it because he read one of her lines and she wanted payback. Or maybe she felt that she wasn't given enough time to talk.

[TheScarecrow]

How do you know Toby wasn't going to read one of her lines by mistake?

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

I just met mary jane watson for the second time lol.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c46/spiderman2o29/maryjanejoejusko-1.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c46/spiderman2o29/spidermanlovesmaryjanewatson-1.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c46/spiderman2o29/2-2.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c46/spiderman2o29/mjandspidey.png

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c46/spiderman2o29/db1.png

www.myspace.com/stanleemyspace (http://www.myspace.com/stanleemyspace)

Stan lee is the creator of marvel comic book characters and our pictures are up on his fan art section page 92 ! His myspace link page is above. So far Valerie got a few comments as to being a really hot mary jane comparing to Kirsten Dunst's movie version :)

Also on his Fan Art album Pt.29 on his Facebook & his Fan Art album pt.10 on his Bebo page.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=51995629

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=58952551

:spidey:

[rcazzy]

LOL! Slag, your post reminded me of this:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll261/Ocklairscans/5y1bzog.gif

If anything, I'd put that down to nervousness It doesn't seem like a hate thing either in Maguire's look, just sped up it can seem that way.

And in that post above me...Mary Jane actress, fair enough an attractive enough lady, but as MJ...no thanks. Kirsten Dunst in Spidey 1 was a great MJ for me, not the whiney skeleton in 2 and 3!

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

If anything, I'd put that down to nervousness It doesn't seem like a hate thing either in Maguire's look, just sped up it can seem that way.

And in that post above me...Mary Jane actress, fair enough an attractive enough lady, but as MJ...no thanks. Kirsten Dunst in Spidey 1 was a great MJ for me, not the whiney skeleton in 2 and 3!

lol, I remember that ! Poor Tobey...

[Stripesy Strip]

Please Lord I want Dunst to drop out of this movie. Mary Elizabeth Winstead is so perfect for a various reasons. She's hot yet also pretty down to Earth.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

What about Christina Hendricks for Mary Jane? She has the look & the bust to match the comics. Plus it'd a lot more refreshing to listen to her voice than Dunst.

I remember her, yeah she can def be mary jane. I remember seeing her in the serenity tv series.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n36/Mithos04/untitled.jpg

[DACrowe]

She's too old now, but if they had done the movie back around 2000 or so, Hendricks would have been a great casting. I loved her on Firefly and she is quite good on Mad Men as well.

[Krimasen]

She's too old now, but if they had done the movie back around 2000 or so, Hendricks would have been a great casting. I loved her on Firefly and she is quite good on Mad Men as well.

I thought Kristen was okay in the first one, but what hurt her (for me, anyway), is she kept getting skinnier and skinnier with each passing movie to where it wasn't even pretty.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

Deborah Ann Woll From True Blood....


http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa94/TheDailyBugle/debrahannwoll.png

[nolan's roll'n]

I just met mary jane watson for the second time lol.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c46/spiderman2o29/maryjanejoejusko-1.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c46/spiderman2o29/spidermanlovesmaryjanewatson-1.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c46/spiderman2o29/2-2.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c46/spiderman2o29/mjandspidey.png

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c46/spiderman2o29/db1.png

www.myspace.com/stanleemyspace (http://www.myspace.com/stanleemyspace)

Stan lee is the creator of marvel comic book characters and our pictures are up on his fan art section page 92 ! His myspace link page is above. So far Valerie got a few comments as to being a really hot mary jane comparing to Kirsten Dunst's movie version :)

Also on his Fan Art album Pt.29 on his Facebook & his Fan Art album pt.10 on his Bebo page.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=51995629

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=58952551

:spidey:

OMG the girl in your first pic, I would die if she became MJ in spiderman 4.:woot: Don't know about her acting though, looks more like a model to me.

[nolan's roll'n]

Personally if they go for a younger,newer look and want a fresher face than Mary Elizabeth Winstead would be ideal for MJ in the next Spiderman trilogy, I'm all for it. Tobey needs to start making more movies beside spiderman, I am really getting sick of him as peter parker/spiderman. I would have loved Topher Grace as Peter Parker/Spiderman he makes the role so much more interesting with jokes here and there, than Tobey tobey is just boring and is not who I would call an ideal peter parker. Though you can't deny that he has done his job for the first trilogy, atleast. I wouldn't mind Joseph Gordon Levitt for Peter Parker/Spiderman as well, the guy needs to get a big name and go mainstream Hollywood.

[Catman]

Is it too late to cast her? :csad:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/Hombre_Gato/Le%20Cat/3835065001_54315125c5_b.jpg

[UnionJack]

I just met mary jane watson for the second time lol.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c46/spiderman2o29/maryjanejoejusko-1.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c46/spiderman2o29/spidermanlovesmaryjanewatson-1.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c46/spiderman2o29/2-2.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c46/spiderman2o29/mjandspidey.png

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c46/spiderman2o29/db1.png

www.myspace.com/stanleemyspace (http://www.myspace.com/stanleemyspace)

Stan lee is the creator of marvel comic book characters and our pictures are up on his fan art section page 92 ! His myspace link page is above. So far Valerie got a few comments as to being a really hot mary jane comparing to Kirsten Dunst's movie version :)

Also on his Fan Art album Pt.29 on his Facebook & his Fan Art album pt.10 on his Bebo page.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=51995629

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=58952551

:spidey:

SoCalVal from TNA ... come on!!

She's pretty but in no way in hell can she act, also her face at some angles looks odd.

[Kahoot]

Is it too late to cast her? :csad:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/Hombre_Gato/Le%20Cat/3835065001_54315125c5_b.jpg
She looks like the pink haired girl in LazyTown but older.

[webhead9707]

MEW for MJ. Dunst for Twilight 2.
nice 1

[Iron Fist]

I don't mind Tobey, but I mind Dunst as MJ again.

[UnionJack]

I don't mind Tobey, but I mind Dunst as MJ again.

As soon as I saw her cast I wasn't happy, after 3films she still never managed to capture MJ at all.

Not just her looks but personality as well, she was far too whiny and moody.

Not the strong sexy, fisty girl we all know!

[Iron Fist]

As soon as I saw her cast I wasn't happy, after 3films she still never managed to capture MJ at all.

Not just her looks but personality as well, she was far too whiny and moody.

Not the strong sexy, fisty girl we all know!

Exactly. I mean like most said, she was ok in SM1, but in 2 and 3 I didn't like it at all.

[UnionJack]

Exactly. I mean like most said, she was ok in SM1, but in 2 and 3 I didn't like it at all.

I watched SM1 last night with my gf (shes never seen any of them :huh:) and she didn't do much for me in that, she's just not sexy, not the hot girl everyone wants, Dunst looks like the sort of girl you could get.

[Iron Fist]

I remember her, yeah she can def be mary jane. I remember seeing her in the serenity tv series.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n36/Mithos04/untitled.jpg

Love her. :o:up:

I watched SM1 last night with my gf (shes never seen any of them :huh:) and she didn't do much for me in that, she's just not sexy, not the hot girl everyone wants, Dunst looks like the sort of girl you could get.

Again I thought she looked ok in SM1, but in the last two she had me wondering how could Pete want that. :o Who knows maybe they'll step up her look in SM4.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/icexmanusa/christymjwall.png

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/icexmanusa/mjwall2.png

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/icexmanusa/maryelizmjwall.jpg

[UnionJack]

The last one looks the best for a new MJ .. who is she?

Stop with the wrestling girls they can't act at all ... although Christy is super super hot.

[The Ace of Knaves]

Yea none of these have got a chance of being in any movie.

[DavidTyler]

Actually, the only casting I thought was great in the Spiderman movies was J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson.

I never really thought Kirsten was MJ from the comix and never thought Tobey looked at all like Peter Parker and still don't.

If I were casting from scratch Topher Grace would have been my Peter Parker and I haven't found the right MJ yet.

[Vis]

I personally wouldn't mind relatively unknowns for the two roles (Peter/MJ). But that stems from me hating most of Young Hollywood.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

Dude the wrestling chicks dont have takes or cuts, they work with a live audience. Look at the rock for crying out loud. I wouldnt count john cena though because both his acting and wrestling sucks ! The last one is mary winstead :)

[UnionJack]

Dude the wrestling chicks dont have takes or cuts, they work with a live audience. Look at the rock for crying out loud. I wouldnt count john cena though because both his acting and wrestling sucks ! The last one is mary winstead :)

Working live doesn't mean anything they could do 100 takes and still be terrible. I do LIKE wrestling so I'm not just *****ing for the sake of it, but sorry SoCal can barely pull off an interview.

Mary Winstead is super cute, would be good if Spider-Man was to reboot and have a Peter Parker round her age.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

Working live doesn't mean anything they could do 100 takes and still be terrible. I do LIKE wrestling so I'm not just *****ing for the sake of it, but sorry SoCal can barely pull off an interview.

Mary Winstead is super cute, would be good if Spider-Man was to reboot and have a Peter Parker round her age.

I agree ! well about the mary winstead part lol.

[omid17]

Evan Rachel Wood

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z277/venomwithin/evan-rachel-wood-925.jpghttp://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z277/venomwithin/evanrachelwood.jpg

[zanos]

She'd probably make a better gwen stacy

[UnionJack]

She'd probably make a better gwen stacy

I'd have her as MJ .. stick with Bryce for Stacy if she will come back.

For me I'd rather have no MJ in the next Spidey and him be with Gwen.

[Adrian89]

E. R. Wood is a good choice, not to mention she is waaaay better than Dunst.

Regarding Gwen, lol the hell with her. The character is done with, I don't care about her. She served her purpose in SM3, he only purpose which is why she was even brought in SM3 in the first place!

[omid17]

:up:

[Demogoblin]

E. R. Wood is a good choice, not to mention she is waaaay better than Dunst.

Regarding Gwen, lol the hell with her. The character is done with, I don't care about her. She served her purpose in SM3, he only purpose which is why she was even brought in SM3 in the first place!

I wouldnt say "The hell with Gwen" but its going to be tough to bring her back into Peter's circle of friends. The last time (that we know of) that he talked to her was when he humiliated both ladies at the night club. It would be kind of hard for him to explain to her that it wasnt his fault. It was the parasitic organism from outer space that was controlling his emotions, yeah thats it.

[Iron Fist]

I don't like Wood as MJ.

[Panthro]

Actually, the only casting I thought was great in the Spiderman movies was J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson.

I never really thought Kirsten was MJ from the comix and never thought Tobey looked at all like Peter Parker and still don't.

If I were casting from scratch Topher Grace would have been my Peter Parker and I haven't found the right MJ yet.
You know, Topher Grace might have actually made a good Peter Parker/Spider-Man. He has good comic timing and looks like the kind of guy who would have been shoved inside his own locker by someone twice his size.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

Evan Rachel Wood

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z277/venomwithin/evan-rachel-wood-925.jpghttp://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z277/venomwithin/evanrachelwood.jpg

she is already mj for broadway musical :P

[UnionJack]

I wouldnt say "The hell with Gwen" but its going to be tough to bring her back into Peter's circle of friends. The last time (that we know of) that he talked to her was when he humiliated both ladies at the night club. It would be kind of hard for him to explain to her that it wasnt his fault. It was the parasitic organism from outer space that was controlling his emotions, yeah thats it.

"IF" we do get a new set of Spidey films in the future I'd like to have Gwen be more of his life, the Death Of Gwen would be a good part of it.
Other than the "hay heres a hot chick to flirt with to get your ugly ex mad" like she was in SM3

[Demogoblin]

"IF" we do get a new set of Spidey films in the future I'd like to have Gwen be more of his life, the Death Of Gwen would be a good part of it.
Other than the "hay heres a hot chick to flirt with to get your ugly ex mad" like she was in SM3
Yes, she has to have a point not be a plot point.

[UnionJack]

Yes, she has to have a point not be a plot point.

I'd have liked Gwen in from the start, we see her at high School and learn about her ... we (comic fans) know the Bridge Scene in SM1 was taken from the Gwen story .. but her role in SM3 could have been anyone at all, it seemed like they used her for us to be like "Wooahhh Gwen's here" but by the end I thought she was pretty much a cameo at best.

Bryce looked amazing as well, totally the Gwen I wanted to see :oldrazz:

Shame we didn't get even a half decent MJ :csad:

[SpeterMan3]

http://www.celebuzz.com/report-kirsten-dunst-still-boozin-s129881/

[UnionJack]

http://www.celebuzz.com/report-kirsten-dunst-still-boozin-s129881/

get her in rehab so she can't ruin another film with her dead eyes

[Demogoblin]

I dont know about some people, but I genuinely pity Kirsten. Depression/alcoholism is no small thing to face. I wish her all the best.

[omid17]

Money sure don't buy hapiness

[FaT_tONle]

Looks like we have the next Carrie Fisher on our hands... can't wait to hear the, "MJ destroyed my acting career" in twenty years when she is out of shape, depressed, and has a number of other psychological problems. For the first time I'll say it, Sony may need to dump her. She will put them over budget anyways. They should have dumped everybody to begin with.

[UnionJack]

Dunst doesn't deserve the money she gets for films, her acting isn't that great.

[Adrian89]

she is already mj for broadway musical :P
Your point being....?

[batboy99]

The musical was teriminated. So, she'd be a perfectly fine choice for a movie. And honestly, I can see a slight resemblence to Dunst.(ERW is just way better looking)

[omid17]

thats why i posted those pics, she can totally pull off being mj

[batboy99]

Yup, she can.

Honestly, I love MEW, but I think ERW is a much better choice. MJ is gorgeous. MEW seems more on the cute side. I want MJ to have super model good looks and IMO, Evan has that.

[omid17]

totally agree

[DavidTyler]

Yes, she has to have a point not be a plot point.

What the hell is that owl eating? A Bat?

[QWoods]

Get MARY ELIZABETH WINSTEAD

[Young Superman]

Get MARY ELIZABETH WINSTEAD
Agreed.

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Get MARY ELIZABETH WINSTEAD

:up::up:

[nolan's roll'n]

I want Winstead for Mj but is she even an actress? I haven't seen her in any movie, so I dont know know how her acting skills are, but how about Zooey Deschanel for Mj, i know she wasnt hot in 500 days of summer but that was because they used cgi to make her eyes bigger than they were.

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

I want Winstead for Mj but is she even an actress? I haven't seen her in any movie, so I dont know know how her acting skills are, but how about Zooey Deschanel for Mj, i know she wasnt hot in 500 days of summer but that was because they used cgi to make her eyes bigger than they were.

Winstead's been in FD3, Sky High, Bobby, had a small scene in The Ring 2, she was in Live Free or Die Hard, Make It Happen, & she just finished filming Scott Pilgrim. She's the female lead.:oldrazz:

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

My votes on ERW ! I couldnt find the lower part of my jaw after watching her as the vampire queen ! She is so MJ !

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu186/PunkPryncess1986/True%20Blood%20tv%20show/evan-rachel-wood-queen.jpg

[Young Superman]

My votes on ERW ! I couldnt find the lower part of my jaw after watching her as the vampire queen ! She is so MJ !

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu186/PunkPryncess1986/True%20Blood%20tv%20show/evan-rachel-wood-queen.jpg
All I can say is WOW!!!!!

[omid17]

For sure Wood was my choice too :up:

[QWoods]

^^^I don't see wut you all see maybe I'll keep looking, but Mary E Winstead was in a film like Grindhouse with Sydney Poitier

[Vis]

I want Winstead for Mj but is she even an actress?No, she is not. No one would call what she does acting.

[omid17]

after i saw her in Live Free or Die Hard, i lost all hope

[FaT_tONle]

Pencil me in on opening night for Spiderman on Broadway.

[Young Superman]

How about Missy Peregrym for MJ?

[Iron Fist]

She's an even worse choice then Dunst. :o

[Adrian89]

Yup, she can.

Honestly, I love MEW, but I think ERW is a much better choice. MJ is gorgeous. MEW seems more on the cute side. I want MJ to have super model good looks and IMO, Evan has that.
I agree.

[zanos]

How about Missy Peregrym for MJ?

She's very pretty but her angular face doesn't fit my description of MJ. But, Daneel Harris would be great.

[batboy99]

I want Winstead for Mj but is she even an actress? I haven't seen her in any movie, so I dont know know how her acting skills are, but how about Zooey Deschanel for Mj, i know she wasnt hot in 500 days of summer but that was because they used cgi to make her eyes bigger than they were.
How the hell do you want someone for a role yet you dont even know if they are an actor?

And Hell no to Zooey. I love her, I really do, but seriously. Do you know who MJ is?

And they didnt use CGI on her eyes at all. They used a blue colour scheme to bring out her eyes.

[FaT_tONle]

The musical was teriminated. So, she'd be a perfectly fine choice for a movie. And honestly, I can see a slight resemblence to Dunst.(ERW is just way better looking)

Aw really? She dropped out on a lot of projects just to schedule it. THat's too bad.

[Vis]

The musical was teriminated.I wish this were so. Where did you get the info that the Spider-Man Musical was dead?

[UnionJack]

My votes on ERW ! I couldnt find the lower part of my jaw after watching her as the vampire queen ! She is so MJ !

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu186/PunkPryncess1986/True%20Blood%20tv%20show/evan-rachel-wood-queen.jpg


My word now this girl is MJ :woot:

[UnionJack]

I want Winstead for Mj but is she even an actress? I haven't seen her in any movie, so I dont know know how her acting skills are, but how about Zooey Deschanel for Mj, i know she wasnt hot in 500 days of summer but that was because they used cgi to make her eyes bigger than they were.

Zooey is super cute and lovely but she only plays one character ... which is herself.

Not MJ for me but she'd be a good Betty Brand tho.

[Crook]

Yup, she can.

Honestly, I love MEW, but I think ERW is a much better choice. MJ is gorgeous. MEW seems more on the cute side. I want MJ to have super model good looks and IMO, Evan has that.
One thing I like about ERW is she has those model-looks and is attractive, but not so "comic booky" or extravagant to the point where it seems preposterous that Peter gets her.

http://www.theradreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/evan-rachel-wood-gq-03.jpg

http://swipelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/evan-rachel-wood-maxmain.jpg


Oh, and she's right up there in acting talent when it comes to her generation. Might be slim pickings, but it's undeniable this girl can act. She's one to look out for. Get her for MJ, but only for a reboot, and only if the role is actually written with depth. No point in wasting talent.

[Vis]

One thing I like about ERW is she has those model-looks and is attractive, but not so "comic booky" or extravagant to the point where it seems preposterous that Peter gets her.
Yet another reason why I don't like Megan Fox or MEW as MJ. Well, besides the fact that they can't act worth crap.

I personally think Sony/Marvel did a better job at casting the lead roles in the Musical for Peter/MJ than the actual film. If they have really killed the Spidey Musical (which I doubt, but hope it's true) they've already got their new Peter/MJ.

[omid17]

Dunst is probably pounding bottles of vodka right now, she doesn't diserve any roles. ERW would be perfect, im glad you guys agreed with me on MJ

[batboy99]

One thing I like about ERW is she has those model-looks and is attractive, but not so "comic booky" or extravagant to the point where it seems preposterous that Peter gets her.

http://www.theradreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/evan-rachel-wood-gq-03.jpg

http://swipelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/evan-rachel-wood-maxmain.jpg


Oh, and she's right up there in acting talent when it comes to her generation. Might be slim pickings, but it's undeniable this girl can act. She's one to look out for. Get her for MJ, but only for a reboot, and only if the role is actually written with depth. No point in wasting talent.And thats why I like her. She looks like how I envision MJ would look in real life. Shes gorgeous, but not so much that it's unrealistic. And shes a damn good actress. I like MEW, but ERW wins in terms of both looks and acting.

Yet another reason why I don't like Megan Fox or MEW as MJ. Well, besides the fact that they can't act worth crap.

I personally think Sony/Marvel did a better job at casting the lead roles in the Musical for Peter/MJ than the actual film. If they have really killed the Spidey Musical (which I doubt, but hope it's true) they've already got their new Peter/MJ.
MEW doesnt have those comic book looks at all. Shes not like :wow:. Shes cute

[batboy99]

I wish this were so. Where did you get the info that the Spider-Man Musical was dead?
It was on the SHH frontpage.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

It was on the SHH frontpage.

its not dead just ran out of budget. Since disney bought marvel, its a sure bet that the musical will be back on.

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

also sony just gave away the rights to disney for the spectacular spider-man series in exchange to not touch the live action films. The muscial isnt covered by that contract so you bet your bottom dollar that if disney is willing to shell out 4 billion, that it knows it will make its profit back with a spider-man musical especially with the 4th film coming out.

[Vis]

also sony just gave away the rights to disney for the spectacular spider-man series in exchange to not touch the live action films. The muscial isnt covered by that contract so you bet your bottom dollar that if disney is willing to shell out 4 billion, that it knows it will make its profit back with a spider-man musical especially with the 4th film coming out.Can you explain this, I keep reading this all over the boards and I still don't get it. Disney can't touch the Spider-Man films until after SM6, and the TV/animation rights are packaged in with the Marvel/Sony deal.

Are you saying that Disney could just bogart the damn film and take over, and Sony calmed them down by giving them the TV/Animation/Spectacular Spider-Man rights?

[FaT_tONle]

Marvel obviously has more subsidies with Disney's financial prowess that maybe Sony felt threatened that Disney could exercise their muscle a bit more. Maybe Dinsey took this animation deal as a temporary tribute. We don't know the details of the deal or how much Marvel is involved in these Spiderman movies in the first place.

[Charlie No-One]

I wish this were so. Where did you get the info that the Spider-Man Musical was dead?

It resumed production two days ago so that is false that it was terminated. It was postponed.

[Iron Fist]

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1//2009/09/wood-blood/evan-rachel-wood-blood-work-01.jpg

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1//2009/09/wood-blood/evan-rachel-wood-blood-work-02.jpg

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1//2009/09/wood-blood/evan-rachel-wood-blood-work-03.jpg

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1//2009/09/wood-blood/evan-rachel-wood-blood-work-04.jpg

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1//2009/09/wood-blood/evan-rachel-wood-blood-work-05.jpg

I don't see it....

[Vis]

Marvel obviously has more subsidies with Disney's financial prowess that maybe Sony felt threatened that Disney could exercise their muscle a bit more. Maybe Dinsey took this animation deal as a temporary tribute. We don't know the details of the deal or how much Marvel is involved in these Spiderman movies in the first place.
I can see that no one understands this part, I feel better now. I just thought that it was weird that Sony just threw the animation part of the deal to Disney, without it being the end of the 6 movie agreement. I think we need to see this deal in ink, I'd like to know what's what.

[Crook]

I don't see it....
I can sort of see where you're coming from. She definitely doesn't adhere to the classic artistic portrayal of MJ. It's more of a "she fits what the character represents" type of deal. Akin to how Bale didn't look like the comic book character in the face, but he had the look of aggression and contained darkness in his eyes. That was all that was necessary.

Here...she's got the spunk, has a grace about her, looks attractive, and can pass for a supermodel, or someone who'd date a nerd. The checklist is pretty much handled, without necessarily following a strict guideline of how she fits any particular trait.

[UnionJack]

I can see that no one understands this part, I feel better now. I just thought that it was weird that Sony just threw the animation part of the deal to Disney, without it being the end of the 6 movie agreement. I think we need to see this deal in ink, I'd like to know what's what.

My take on it is that Sony gave the animation rights back for EXTRA time with the movies.

Maybe taking it to 10 instead of the 3 more planned.

That OR they gave up some major cut so Marvel CAN USE Spidey in Avengers or something later to tie on with all the Marvel Movies when the last Spidey film plays out.

[megared01]

Honestly, I'll be very frank, anyone would be better than Dunst at this point. Many more attractive natural red heads out there.

[Adrian89]

Oh, and she's right up there in acting talent when it comes to her generation. Might be slim pickings, but it's undeniable this girl can act. She's one to look out for. Get her for MJ, but only for a reboot, and only if the role is actually written with depth. No point in wasting talent.
She is pretty talented, in most of her movies she did a very good job. I agree with almost everything you said, except the reboot. I really don't need a reboot right now and hopefully it won't happen, because there's a lot more to explore in the Spider-Man universe, a lot more stories to do and I wish to see them doing some. I think Mary-Jane can and should be recast anyway, they don't have to reboot the franchise (which I doubt anyway, since they already planned on having 6 movies!).

[QWoods]

Deborah Anne Woll from True Blood would be a hot MJ

[Adrian89]

Deborah Anne Woll from True Blood would be a hot MJ
I like her, she's beautiful.

[darthlaney]

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk28/laney_74/MEW.jpg

BOOM!

[QWoods]

I just recently watched Evan Rachel Wood on True Blood and I think she would make a hot MJ, she beautiful and she's got a hot voice

[Vis]

Then it's settled, Evan Rachel Wood is the new MJ. Now can you all take your asses to sleep. Although the next film will have Kirsten signed, sealed and delivered. See you come Spider-Man 5 Ms. Evan Rachel Wood.

[UnionJack]

Then it's settled, Evan Rachel Wood is the new MJ. Now can you all take your asses to sleep. Although the next film will have Kirsten signed, sealed and delivered. See you come Spider-Man 5 Ms. Evan Rachel Wood.

They should at least reference this cast change.

"Wow MJ!! You had some work done, you look amazing now, much better than before"

[Young Superman]

How about ERW as MJ and Thomas Dekker as Peter Parker/Spider-Man?

[The Ace of Knaves]

They should at least reference this cast change.

"Wow MJ!! You had some work done, you look amazing now, much better than before"

Or...

"Hey MJ it's good to see you are off the booze and the Bolivian marching powder!"