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Which should he use, the circular one, or the triangular?
A) triangular
http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/4929/074kr.jpg
B) the more classic round one
http://i44.tinypic.com/5a2eme.jpg
Round and I hope to god it won't be a glass like one again!
marcvader
04-07-2009, 06:17 PM
Circular for sure but I wouldn't mind seeing him lug the triangular one possibly on his first mission while wearing the fatigues then graduating to his classic look sans pirate boots and the circular shield.
tamron
04-07-2009, 06:25 PM
i wouldn't mind seeing him lug the triangular one possibly on his first mission while wearing the fatigues then graduating to his classic look
qft.
See, I want him to have the triangular one, and then have it modified to classic in Avengers.
Round and I hope to god it won't be a glass like one again!
Oh god... that was one flimsy piece of crap.
Faded To Deaf
04-07-2009, 08:10 PM
It would be interesting to see the triangle in some scenes as a homage, but not for a whole movie. I want to see the audience fall for the circular one.
marcvader
04-07-2009, 08:18 PM
And the circular one is the one everyone who knows Cap is familiar with anyways.
Mister J
04-07-2009, 09:29 PM
Start off with the triangular one. Introduce the circular version later in the film as an upgrade, offensively and defensively.
louiebling$
04-07-2009, 11:14 PM
Start off with the triangular one. Introduce the circular version later in the film as an upgrade, offensively and defensively.
:up: just as the J man said :o
Aesop Rocks
04-07-2009, 11:31 PM
Haven't we seen Captain America's shield in Iron Man?
Mister J
04-07-2009, 11:43 PM
Yes, but it comes across as more of a throwaway nod to us than anything designed for continuity. I don't think Marvel Studios would think twice about contradicting where Cap's shield is if it came to it.
I'd like to think that even as aloof as Tony was portrayed in relation to some of his 'art' pieces, he'd think more of Captain America's shield than to have it sitting around as a glorified paperweight in his workshop.
redlion2
04-07-2009, 11:47 PM
I voted round shield, of course, but I wouldn't mind seeing the triangular shield show up for one mission as was mentioned earlier.
Aesop Rocks
04-08-2009, 12:01 AM
Yes, but it comes across as more of a throwaway nod to us than anything designed for continuity. I don't think Marvel Studios would think twice about contradicting where Cap's shield is if it came to it.
I'd like to think that even as aloof as Tony was portrayed in relation to some of his 'art' pieces, he'd think more of Captain America's shield than to have it sitting around as a glorified paperweight in his workshop.
Then again it's Tony Stark. :hehe:
Compi716
04-08-2009, 12:36 AM
I'm saying stay with the circular one, for simplicity's sake.
redlion2
04-08-2009, 01:08 AM
Speaking of Cap's shield, does anyone think it should show a little combat wear? I don't mean anything glaring but maybe a few small subtle scratches or does it really matter?
Microchip
04-08-2009, 02:19 AM
I'd pick both if that was an option, going from one given to him at the start that is merely bulletproof to the round shield at the end, which would be near-indestructable.
I can't really see the Captain's ROUND shield getting scratched up by wear-and-tear or stray bullets, but his other triangular one could be.
The triangular one perhaps while he is training.
He is supplied with it during "basic" training, then Cap in a moment of inspiration to take out some distant obstacle drops it to pick up something circular and throws it frisbee-like at a target, aided by Cap's enhanced skill, the effectiveness of the tactic awes his instructors, and that would be the end of the triangular shield.
As far as damage goes......isn't the shield virtually indestructable?
Mister J
04-08-2009, 03:08 PM
The circular one is an indestructible vibranium-iron alloy. I believe the earlier triangular one were just bulletproof/highly damage-resistant.
November Rain
04-08-2009, 03:13 PM
I'd like the idea of the original shield being elliptical and being lost with and stark having it locked away somewhere.
it's also be nice if he managed to reverse engineer it for a hulk buster suit, or at least to 90% it's efficiency
ironman29758
04-08-2009, 04:05 PM
mabye the triangular sheild at first if they're doing the WWII and then the round sheild later on near the end and during the Avengers
egarza
04-09-2009, 11:40 AM
the 'indestructable' round shield could have signs of wear on the paint-job for sure, sratches, scuffs, dings and whatnot...
MikeSwanson
04-09-2009, 12:35 PM
The circular one is an indestructible vibranium-iron alloy. I believe the earlier triangular one were just bulletproof/highly damage-resistant.
i thought it was made of Vibrainium and Adamantium. i could be wrong though. regardless they should have both in the film. start with the original shield the give him the circular shield.
Mister J
04-09-2009, 01:02 PM
i thought it was made of Vibrainium and Adamantium. i could be wrong though. regardless they should have both in the film. start with the original shield the give him the circular shield.
It wouldn't be your fault. It's been cited as such numerous times.
Rogers' indestructible shield was long referred to, even in continuity, as being composed of an adamantium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium_%28comics%29)-vibranium alloy. This contradicted earlier established continuity, as adamantium is only developed after Rogers is revived from suspended animation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspended_animation), during MacLain's later experiments to try and duplicate the material of the shield. Adamantium makes its first appearance in Marvel Comics in Avengers Vol. 1 #66, July 1969.
The adamantium-vibranium error first appears in the Captain America entry in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Handbook_of_the_Marvel_Universe) (the composition of the shield is accurately described in the adamantium entry as "vibranium-iron") and was propagated in several subsequent stories by writers using the Handbook as a reference. An attempt to correct this was made in Captain America #303–304 (March–April 1985), which establishes that the shield is made of vibranium and an "experimental iron alloy", but that did not prevent the repetition of the "adamantium-vibranium" description over the years.
Start off with the triangular one. Introduce the circular version later in the film as an upgrade, offensively and defensively.
Sounds good to me.
Brian Braddock
04-09-2009, 04:35 PM
There's perhaps a 3rd option.
What about Cap having the round shield but with the triangular shield colour scheme and properties, just like he did from issue #2 onwards?
http://www.comics.org/covers.lasso?SeriesID=237
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/237_4_002-1.jpg
Then when he's re-awakened in modern times, he's given a shield similiar to it only it's made out of Vibranium and the colour scheme is the more familiar one we more closely assocatiate with Cap.
I mean, we saw Tony working on (or at least having a design of) in his lab in the IM movie. If Cap didnt have a similiar shaped shield in the past, why would Tony deviate so much from the triangle design if he's trying to replicate it?
darthlaney
04-09-2009, 09:12 PM
Sounds good to me.
It would be great to see Rooservelt give him the shield like in the comics, along with an upgrade in his uniform - promotional uniform to the fatigues.
How about this - He could be dressed in the promtional uniform (classic version) and stop a secret nazi attack on American soil. At this point it is clear he is ready for deployment in Europe - meets with Rooservelt and is given the uniform upgrade (the ultimate style fatigues and a new round shield.
Drakon
04-09-2009, 10:12 PM
Angular for the Cap movie, then rounded for the updated Cap in the Avengers.
Mr. Todd
05-07-2009, 11:31 PM
Angular for the Cap movie, then rounded for the updated Cap in the Avengers.
Yuppersons. :up:
And I think the angular shield should be crazy shattered by the end of the Cap movie too.
arivin923
05-09-2009, 12:14 PM
um, so just to show how awesome the angular shield is, here is a pic of the one I made for my ww2 cap costume (WIP)
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/arivin923/100_0412.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/arivin923/100_0415.jpg
Drakon
05-09-2009, 12:44 PM
Me likey. Where's the rest of the suit?
Brian Braddock
05-10-2009, 10:53 AM
Nice shield there, 923.
Bat-Gasm
05-12-2009, 05:06 PM
"According to an exclusive comic book released with the Wal-Mart deluxe DVD version of Iron Man, Howard Stark created the technology for the shield, and Tony Stark used a discarded prototype to help design the alloy used for his armor."
That's what wikipedia says. Not sure how reliable it is, just thought it was a neat piece of info you cats would like to read.
Artistsean
05-12-2009, 07:06 PM
Both, first half of the first half of the film he should use the triangle
once thawed he should use the newer round adimentium shield.
He'll be getting thawed out in Avengers.
chiefchirpa
05-13-2009, 11:12 AM
Round shield is a must for this film because it's the only way it is going to be used as a frisbee device that bounce back, which is an iconic Captain America move.
With the angular shield, you can't or can only use as a bashing effect. With a round shield, you can frisbee it, rotate for a whirlwind effect, bash it, and looks darn cool carried in Cap's back.
bubbadoom
05-13-2009, 11:29 AM
As suggested above, the original shield for the first mission, then the round one for the rest of the film. He should be an old pro with it by the time he shows up in the present [in the Avengers movie].
arivin923
05-13-2009, 07:14 PM
thanks guys! the rest f the costume is still a WIP, aiming to get it done by SDCC this summer. If you want to know more check it out here:
http://theleagueofheroes.yuku.com/topic/5874/master/1/
The IronMan
05-15-2009, 04:21 PM
what did you make the shield out of? Great job by the way
arivin923
05-15-2009, 07:46 PM
thanks. its 16 gage sheet metal aluminum
Wonderboy
05-17-2009, 12:34 PM
I'm sure it's been mentioned but I would like it if he started with the triangular one then it gets destroyed and that's when he gets the classic round shield. I wonder if they will mention his background in the invaders?
devil dinosaur
05-31-2009, 04:00 AM
Yep, like everyone has been saying, start with the triangular shield, have it destroyed in battle or something to that effect, then he gets the upgraded round one.
Hypestyle
05-31-2009, 02:19 PM
triangle first, then have it get trashed, then get circular..
Gamma Goliath
06-03-2009, 11:14 AM
I want that exact costume from the first pic on the the first page. In avengers I want shield to melt it down and referbish it into the rounded off shape.
Webhead2006
06-03-2009, 07:40 PM
Any one have a screen cap of cap's shield in IM every time i watch the movie i never notice it.
Shaolin Kenobi
06-04-2009, 07:40 PM
It wouldn't be your fault. It's been cited as such numerous times.
WOW... Mister J is the Shiz! Nice work with the shield info.
Like the others, I would like to see things begin with the triangle then move onto the round. Even if they go montage opening sequence like Wolverine origins and open up in modern times. The can still cover as much or as little of his origins as they want through narrative/plot in the movie but not have to worry too much WWII continuity and such.
Rich Santoro
06-14-2009, 12:42 PM
Start with the kite shield, then introduce the round shield part way into the film... The arc is that it was fabricated into a target for testing in a shooting range (resistance to small arms fire, a B.A.R., 30-cal, 50-cal, bazooka, and eventually artillery). They bring Cap to the range and show him the objects effectiveness against a howitzer, and he freaks... The brass says that they only received a small amount of the material that was processed into the alloy for the target (which will become the 'shield'). They got it from a new ally recently encountered by Allied forces in central Africa (a send up / easter egg for Wakanda). They have a rare mineral deposit, and gave the small sample as an act of good will, for R&D purposes.
They don't have enough for any other applications at the moment, so they say that they want him to carry it into theatre... Then the center star is added to the target motif, and you have your shield.
Webhead2006
06-14-2009, 08:23 PM
That could work well.
I would love to see the angular shield first, and then latter in the movie his regular round shield! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-merv/ca.gif
Webhead2006
06-16-2009, 10:44 PM
yea i would think that is an aspect they would go into for the film. When he is first out there have the angular one and then half way through film get the round one and say its made out of that special V material and there you go.
See, I want him to have the triangular one, and then have it modified to classic in Avengers.
Great minds.........
WeaponXProject
06-26-2009, 03:52 PM
It should be the traditional shield look (not traditional Cap shield), not round at all. I thought it would be cool that one breaks in battle and he takes the circular lid of a tank off and uses it as his shield. And after the battle asks for a new round one made more durable.
If people don't like my idea, I understand. But I would rather see the triangular shaped first and the circular one later on in the movie. Kind of how we saw the early stages of the Batsuit in BB and then the finished product about an hour and 20 minutes in. I like an idea of development.
Webhead2006
06-27-2009, 02:31 PM
That would be an interesting way to go to get the round shield. I agree with posters since the film is going to be majority in ww2 he should have the angular shield for the most part of the film. It breaks in battle, and then near the climax of the film he is given the round shield and is told that its made from a new material(what ever it is in the comics).
Superhero 101
06-27-2009, 07:41 PM
I would hope that you start with the Triangular then switch to the Circular one because the triangular one got destroyed
Bubastis
06-27-2009, 09:04 PM
Rounder is more iconic, and lends itself to better fight scenes
WeaponXProject
07-04-2009, 02:47 PM
Rounder is more iconic, and lends itself to better fight scenes
I agree with you but I definitely would rather have the triangular one first and then the round one later.
Dude, what is up with you Avy? It's f***ing terrifying!
Artistsean
07-07-2009, 12:41 PM
I read that they changed the triangular shield to the round one because of the comic character "The Shield"
The publisher thought Cap was too similar to his character, so he wanted them to stop their comic, instead they came to the agreement to change his shield and costume.
They changed his shield to the round one, "like the trash can lids we would use as shields back then" (paraphrased from the Simon interview)
Ultra Lantern
11-29-2011, 12:52 AM
The Classic shield
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