A J.J. Abrams Spider-Man?

[Batman137]

J.J. Abrams has a great vision for any story. He truly is one of the great directors of our time. And by the looks of it, Star Trek will be a major hit. I was thinking about this, and thought that J.J. Abrams could be a great director of Spider-Man 4, or any Spider-Man movie in general.

What Do You Guys Think?

Discuss

-Batman137

[webhead731]

No thanks. I'm fine with Raimi as is. I'd be skeptical for anyone else to take over.

[Mike]

For Spider-Man? Hell Yeah!!! But I would like to see what Raimi can do with a 4th film. The first two were great but 3 sucked. Im glad Raimi has got control again. Just no more people cheering for spider-man and Spider-Man Day parades.

[Crook]

No thanks. I'm fine with Raimi as is. I'd be skeptical for anyone else to take over.
That's naive. Raimi isn't the only one capable of doing this franchise. Logistically, that's practically impossible.

As for Abrams, man I'd love for him to take over once Raimi's done. He's got a very fresh style in tune with the modern audience. He's also cerebral if the story calls for it. Very versatile in all areas, so hell yeah I'd be open to it.

[VenomVsSpidey]

That's naive. Raimi isn't the only one capable of doing this franchise. Logistically, that's practically impossible.

As for Abrams, man I'd love for him to take over once Raimi's done. He's got a very fresh style in tune with the modern audience. He's also cerebral if the story calls for it. Very versatile in all areas, so hell yeah I'd be open to it.

i think the same with webhead.i really only want raimi. however should raimi opt-out - which isnt gonna happen - i wouldnt be against another director, provided it's not uwe boll.haven't seen Abrams work, so i cant say anything about him though.

[The Joker]

That's naive. Raimi isn't the only one capable of doing this franchise.

Agreed!

I'd love to see Abrams tackle a Spidey movie.

[Reikowolf]

hehe

I can see it now. The Return of Venom as a giant symbiote monster wreaking havoc throughout NY. The entire movie on a handycam. Meanwhile spider-man must come to grips whether he got his powers from the spider-bite.... or the other(s)... get it, like in the comics... and lost :woot:


JJ is too gimmicky for my taste. I'm not a fan of lost.

Star Trek does look good but the franchise has been due for a reboot for a while now, JJ was just the first to the punch.

I suppose there could be worse directors to take over the franchise tho, and its not like JJ is not talented... I'm just not a fan.

[Batman137]

hehe

I can see it now. The Return of Venom as a giant symbiote monster wreaking havoc throughout NY. The entire movie on a handycam. Meanwhile spider-man must come to grips whether he got his powers from the spider-bite.... or the other(s)... get it, like in the comics... and lost :woot:


JJ is too gimmicky for my taste. I'm not a fan of lost.

Star Trek does look good but the franchise has been due for a reboot for a while now, JJ was just the first to the punch.

I suppose there could be worse directors to take over the franchise tho, and its not like JJ is not talented... I'm just not a fan.

JJ didn't direct cloverfield, only produced.

[Doctor Jones]

JJ would be interesting.

But he's my choice for an Avenger's film.

[Smit84]

Ehh, he might be a decent fit. Star Trek looks great but I think Abrams is just currently riding a wave of success that will soon recede. He's the guy who everyone thinks should direct every franchise until he delivers a dissapointment.

No one ever talks about how before Alias and Lost he was writing movies like Gone Fishing and Armageddon. In fact, fanboys were up-in-arms over his Superman script and I'll bet Superman fans will want him to direct the next film after Star Trek opens.

[Reikowolf]

JJ didn't direct cloverfield, only produced.

Yep, I'm aware.

But it was his idea "An American Godzilla Movie"

He did however direct MI:III aka Tom Cruise the movie Part II

[PWN3R]

J.J. has the geek crowd eating out of his hands, Star Trek is going to be wonderful. If he were ever to direct a comic book film, it would be absolutely huge.

[LightningFlash]

I'd be skeptical for anyone else to take over.

:whatever::hehe:

[Doomed_hero]

i would love it, he wows me each week on lost and I have never been to impressed with Raimi. Spider-Man 2 was good, the other to where so so.

[Batman137]

Yep, I'm aware.

But it was his idea "An American Godzilla Movie"

He did however direct MI:III aka Tom Cruise the movie Part II

In my opinion, MI:III was the best of the three. I just think that Abrams could bring something new to the Spider-Man Franchise. I'm sort of tired of the whole Raimi pattern. Girl gets taken hostage, Spider-man saves her. Abrams would make something completely different. Hell, he could have Aunt May turn into Carnage and make it believable and awesome::cwink::woot:.

I might be one of the few, but i thought Cloverfield was GREAT. something different and exciting

[VenomVsSpidey]

In my opinion, MI:III was the best of the three. I just think that Abrams could bring something new to the Spider-Man Franchise. I'm sort of tired of the whole Raimi pattern. Girl gets taken hostage, Spider-man saves her. Abrams would make something completely different. Hell, he could have Aunt May turn into Carnage and make it believable and awesome::cwink::woot:.

I might be one of the few, but i thought Cloverfield was GREAT. something different and exciting

:facepalm

[d.k.]

I wouldn't mind that at all actually.

[Spider-ManHero12]

But he's my choice for an Avenger's film. IMO, he would be a fantastic choice for an Avengers film, although, John Faverue would be just as much of an awesome choice, if you ask me. Well, atleast I think he would.

Anyway, I think Sam should stick with Spidey. Sam seems like he wants to explore more Spidey stories and bring in alot of stuff in #4. He's defenitely not done with this franchise, which is awesome to know because I can't get enough of this franchise. Especially, with Sam's passion put into it. :up:

[Catman]

fanboys were up-in-arms over his Superman script

That's what surprises me about this thread. Fanboys hated his Superman but are willing to accept Spidey with open arms?

[Doctor Jones]

IMO, he would be a fantastic choice for an Avengers film, although, John Faverue would be just as much of an awesome choice, if you ask me. Well, atleast I think he would.

Anyway, I think Sam should stick with Spidey. Sam seems like he wants to explore more Spidey stories and bring in alot of stuff in #4. He's defenitely not done with this franchise, which is awesome to know because I can't get enough of this franchise. Especially, with Sam's passion put into it. :up:

Agreed, it's just San's passion for the character that makes me want him to stay.

And yeah, Favreau is my top choice for Avengers, but he's got IM on his belt. But if he can't, Abrams it is.

[LightningFlash]

Stan Lee should direct The Avengers.

[chaseter]

I would give a JJ Abrams Spider-Man movie a chance most definitely.

[NewYorkSpider]

I could be on board with a J.J Abrams Spider-Man movie.

[webhead731]

That's naive. Raimi isn't the only one capable of doing this franchise. Logistically, that's practically impossible.

Excuse me? Really? Did I imply it like that? :o

Where did I say Raimi is the only one able to do these films? That's right, I didn't.

I simply said I'm perfectly content with Raimi, and would be a bit worried if someone else took over. Directors taking over in the middle of a franchise can be bad. The camera work, the lighting, the whole feel. Just look at the big jump from Batman Returns to Batman Forever. The whole feel changes. Makes it feel like a different movie apart from the series, and I don't like that.

[Batman137]

i agree with the feeling changes. But i think with SM3, a change of directors wouldn't feel off

[LightningFlash]

Excuse me? Really? Did I imply it like that? :o

Where did I say Raimi is the only one able to do these films? That's right, I didn't.

I simply said I'm perfectly content with Raimi, and would be a bit worried if someone else took over. Directors taking over in the middle of a franchise can be bad. The camera work, the lighting, the whole feel. Just look at the big jump from Batman Returns to Batman Forever. The whole feel changes. Makes it feel like a different movie apart from the series, and I don't like that.

Well BR to BF is different, because it was a trilogy, one that Tim Burton had a plan for, but then decided to hand the reigns to Schumacher. Spider-Man 4 with a different director wouldn't be a big change because the trilogy has ended; a supposedly "new" saga would be at the start of S-M 4, either just by one more movie or even three new movies. The Osborns are deceased, and Spider-Man 4 would call for new storylines, something that I think Raimi won't be able to handle, imo.

And if not Spider-Man 4, then a reboot series(which I think is a given in the next ten, maybe fifteen years down the line)...

but I certainly think Abrams might be better for a Superman film. Spider-Man is OK right now(and I really have hopes for a Spider-Man 3.1, that is actually as good as the novelization, then maybe I'll have a change of mind with the third film), but Superman needs a brilliant movie from the get-go. Superman Returns war horrendous, plus Smallville is garbage, and yet it's still on the air which makes no sense.

[DACrowe]

The guy who made MI3 (which imo sucked) and the equally dull looking Star Trek? No thanks.

[chaseter]

SM4 is the last chance I am going to give Raimi, Tobey, and crew so I hope they do good with it.

[NewYorkSpider]

I'd like to see David Fincher tackle a Spidey movie.

[MessiahDecoy123]

Me too.

Fincher needs to give superhero movies a shot. Leave those serial killers alone.

Too bad Raimi has a death grip on the spidey franchise. Unwilling to let anybody hold his golden goose. How much money does this guy need from the franchise till he's satisfied? He stopped reading Spidey when he was eight so I know he isn't doing Spider-man movie after movie after movie after movie just to tell Parker's story. He's doing it for the easy riches. Spider-man 3 makes it painfully obvious.

The Harry Potter movies have benefited from switching directors every once and a while. Anybody who thinks Raimi is the only one capable of directing a decent Spider-man movie drank the kool aid.

[SpiderRock88]

he's okay but ill stick with the guy who had a huge Spider-Man painting above his bed room

[Reikowolf]

on a side note:

early IGN review of Star Trek states that there is great character development but the action lacks.

[SpiderRock88]

on a side note:

early IGN review of Star Trek states that there is great character development but the action lacks.

well doesnt that suck? lol i wasnt gonna watch it anyway probably till DVD

[DACrowe]

It said the acting was good, but the story and character development itself lacked. Abrams created a few good TV shows that went downhill, that does not make him a go-to director.

Now David Fincher? That would be very interesting. I'd love to see him tackle a story similar to KLH, but with the Lizard and maybe a marriage subplot. That'd be an awesome movie.

I don't think Raimi is the only director who can do a Spidey movie, but I have enjoyed his versions and actually hope he does a good SM4, just to shut the whiney fans up. I'm so tired of seeing everytime his name comes up, even about films unrelated to Spidey, people start *****ing "Wah, he ruined SM3. Wah, he cast Topher Grace as Venom. Wah, he raped Venom and I'll never forgive him." Now, apparently he has gone from a fanboy demigod to a person less than mud, as the general consensus is he is overrated and hasn't made a good movie since Evil Dead II (which IMO, was the weakest of that trilogy).

So, I want to see him knock SM4 out of the park and leave the fanboys eating crow and start praising him again and then walk away on a high. He is too classy a chap to be so viscously spit on everytime his name appears on the internet.

[TheSlag]

J.J. Abrams has a great vision for any story. He truly is one of the great directors of our time. And by the looks of it, Star Trek will be a major hit. I was thinking about this, and thought that J.J. Abrams could be a great director of Spider-Man 4, or any Spider-Man movie in general.

What Do You Guys Think?

Discuss

-Batman137


Man. I would LOVE to see JJ do a take on Spider-Man. One of the truely great directors IMO, and really seems to love his characters.

Great Post! :up:

[knockout]

JJ Abrams rocks. MI-3 is by far the best along with the 1st one. Not a trekkie but the trailer sure intrigued me. I even think JJ Abrams is a better storyteller than Nolan especially how he handlesmale, female characters and the love story.

[OcStat]

I think Abrams could make an awesome Spider-Man movie...MI:III was my favorite out of the trilogy, and I really enjoyed Star Trek (As far as it's action goes I think they went for a Super-Man:The Movie/Super-Man Returns approach, light on it this time, but just so they can blow minds with the sequel). But I think he might try to hard to make it entirely different than the movies we have...and I'm not sure how I would feel about that. If it were the case I mean. Anyway, I'm not sour that we won't be seeing his Spidey any time soon.

PS:

I don't think Raimi is the only director who can do a Spidey movie, but I have enjoyed his versions and actually hope he does a good SM4, just to shut the whiney fans up. I'm so tired of seeing everytime his name comes up, even about films unrelated to Spidey, people start *****ing "Wah, he ruined SM3. Wah, he cast Topher Grace as Venom. Wah, he raped Venom and I'll never forgive him." Now, apparently he has gone from a fanboy demigod to a person less than mud, as the general consensus is he is overrated and hasn't made a good movie since Evil Dead II (which IMO, was the weakest of that trilogy).


:applaud

[Batman137]

Trek was superb, I now really would like to see an abrams version of spidey

[Wiseman]

J.J. Abrams is an over-rated hack that steals ideas whenever possible. I'm suprised nobody has been smart enough to notice it.

[Metal Spidey]

No thanks. I don't want to see Spider-Man 4: Attack of the Polar Bear.

Abrams is a talentless hack and I just don't see the appeal of his work.

[Immortalfire]

on a side note:

early IGN review of Star Trek states that there is great character development but the action lacks.

Trek has never been overly about action to begin with.

[Gundam]

Trek was superb, I now really would like to see an abrams version of spidey

I Agree! I went into the film thinking I would hate it, being a fan of the original cast. Star trek was very well done! Best movie of the summer so fair There is no way Star trek will not beat wolverine! I think Raimi is a very over rated director. Green goblin looked like a power rangers villain, and spidey 3 I....I don't even know what to say about that, that has not already been said.

[The Joker]

on a side note:

early IGN review of Star Trek states that there is great character development but the action lacks.

I'd take character development over action any day of the week.

[Batman137]

I'd take character development over action any day of the week.

:up:

[Metal Spidey]

I'd take character development over action any day of the week.

I'd take a mix of both character developmental and action over either any day.

[snakeinthegear]

I always thought Abrams was a competent director and very good at what he does although slightly overrated. However, after watching Star Trek I take my hat off to him for making such a fantastic movie.
He managed to do what Raimi hasn't and that is provide the perfect balance of character development, spectacle, well timed/placed humour, great action and sorrow.
I think it is ridiculous to believe that Sam Raimi is the only person capable of making spider-man movies. If Abrams were to direct a spidey movie, I believe he could do a better job than Raimi but the fact is Abrams hasn't directed one and I doubt he will. Like others have said, I'd love for him to direct the Avengers movie. He can handle the scope.
I just hope the creative team behind spider-man 4 are working on an awesome script, particularly where the drama and exposition are concerend. Come on Raimi, we're all spidey fans here and we don't want you to fail.

[OcStat]

I always thought Abrams was a competent director and very good at what he does although slightly overrated. However, after watching Star Trek I take my hat off to him for making such a fantastic movie.
He managed to do what Raimi hasn't and that is provide the perfect balance of character development, spectacle, well timed/placed humour, great action and sorrow.
I think it is ridiculous to believe that Sam Raimi is the only person capable of making spider-man movies. If Abrams were to direct a spidey movie, I believe he could do a better job than Raimi but the fact is Abrams hasn't directed one and I doubt he will. Like others have said, I'd love for him to direct the Avengers movie. He can handle the scope.
I just hope the creative team behind spider-man 4 are working on an awesome script, particularly where the drama and exposition are concerend. Come on Raimi, we're all spidey fans here and we don't want you to fail.

I understand thinking there's a lack of balance if you are refering to Spider-Man 3...but all of them? No way.

[Batman137]

people say Abrams is overrated, but i think Raimi is the one who is overrated.

[NewYorkSpider]

I'd take character development over action any day of the week.

Agreed.

[Yurka]

I think J.J. could make a kickass Spidey movie, I would love to see what he would do with it, I have a feeling he also wouldn't include all the corniness of Raimi which would definitely be preferable.

[Reikowolf]

I think J.J. could make a kickass Spidey movie, I would love to see what he would do with it, I have a feeling he also wouldn't include all the corniness of Raimi which would definitely be preferable.

I'm not so sure. Star Trek had plenty of Corny lines in it.

The whole scene with the Vulcan kids using logic to bully was pretty corny.

[Dragon]

Not only that, but Trek was pretty paint-by-numbers. Kirk had all the cliche' badboy traits, stealing a car as a kid, being a wise-ass, barroom fights, the motorcycle..

There was little depth. Abrams made no attempt to explain or explore why passioante Earth women fell in love with Vulcans, or why Vulcans wanted to be with them. No relationship between Kirk and his mom, even though their shared tragedy of Kirk's dad's death would have had an impact (Good or bad) on their relationship.

And the handling of Spock's being unfit to lead was clunky and silly.

[snakeinthegear]

And turn the film into the adentures of James Tiberius and his mother or intergalictic species romance? I don't think so. This film is Star Trek. Why waste time explaining stuff that doesn't need to be explained. Who cares if Uhuru and Spock are together or if Spock's dad got with a human? It's not essential. It's natural, standard and expected stuff in scifi shows, books and films. As for corny lines, um, the dialogue was much better than what's been written in the spider-man movies imo and Kirk's character had enough depth to him. He may have had cliche badboy traits but he had an intelligence and cunning way of thinking that differentiates his character from other badboy cliches. Aaaaaand I think the whole young spock/logic fight may have gone over ya head there, mate.

[Dragon]

And turn the film into the adentures of James Tiberius and his mother or intergalictic species romance? I don't think so. This film is Star Trek. Why waste time explaining stuff that doesn't need to be explained. Who cares if Uhuru and Spock are together or if Spock's dad got with a human? It's not essential. It's natural, standard and expected stuff in scifi shows, books and films. As for corny lines, um, the dialogue was much better than what's been written in the spider-man movies imo and Kirk's character had enough depth to him. He may have had cliche badboy traits but he had an intelligence and cunning way of thinking that differentiates his character from other badboy cliches. Aaaaaand I think the whole young spock/logic fight may have gone over ya head there, mate.

Oh I see...

We were only supposed to care about ships flying around in space blowing things up, The Cowboy saving the day and Riggs & Murtaugh being best buds by the final reel. Musta missed that memo. Thanks for clarifying.

And you're right. There's never been a film where the badboy hero displays a unique intelligence that has him overcome the villain in the end... Bruce Willis, Tom Cruise, Mel Gibson, Wesley Snipes, Johnny Depp, George Clooney, Hugh Jackman, Robert Downey Jr. certainly didn't build careers off of that premise.

[JerseyJoker]

JJ Abrams is probably the most overrated "talent" in hollywood now.

I hope to god he comes nowhere near the Spider-Man franchise. He doesn't have an original bone in his body.

[Batman137]

JJ Abrams is probably the most overrated "talent" in hollywood now.

I hope to god he comes nowhere near the Spider-Man franchise. He doesn't have an original bone in his body.

Yeah creating a show about people being stranded on an island, with incredible depth of story isn't original at all. OR a huge monster attacking new york, seen through a civilians camera. He knows how to make things work. He takes general ideas of things, and makes them crazy interesting and good.

[Reikowolf]

And turn the film into the adentures of James Tiberius and his mother or intergalictic species romance? I don't think so. This film is Star Trek. Why waste time explaining stuff that doesn't need to be explained. Who cares if Uhuru and Spock are together or if Spock's dad got with a human? It's not essential. It's natural, standard and expected stuff in scifi shows, books and films. As for corny lines, um, the dialogue was much better than what's been written in the spider-man movies imo and Kirk's character had enough depth to him. He may have had cliche badboy traits but he had an intelligence and cunning way of thinking that differentiates his character from other badboy cliches. Aaaaaand I think the whole young spock/logic fight may have gone over ya head there, mate.

Really? Because in my head, a better way to play out that scene would have been to have Spock struggle in class with lower marks and have the other kids just deduce that he is unable to keep up due to his human side, very matter of factly as if its nothing to be ashamed of just a handicap, Spock then loses his temper and tries to fight them. His father, would in turn, give him advice that would make him a star pupil and by vulcan logic "overcome his handicap"

That would have been much better than, "Hey we're Vulcan's, a species that's above emotional problems, but not above bullying because we're racist" Seems pretty silly logic if you ask me.

Also, please don't feed me all this about this film being "Star Trek" until you've seen this link.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1910892

PS. I'm not saying it was a bad movie, I actually liked it. I'm just making some observations that I felt were obvious.

[Metal Spidey]

Yeah creating a show about people being stranded on an island, with incredible depth of story isn't original at all.

Incredible depth?

OR a huge monster attacking new york, seen through a civilians camera.

Woo hoo, motion sickness.

[McVenom]

Darren Aronofsky or Paul Thomas Anderson
just throwin it out there

[spidermilk]

I still would like to see Cameron take the helm. JJ's good but I don't think he would do it the justice someone like Jim could.

[spidermilk]

Yeah creating a show about people being stranded on an island, with incredible depth of story isn't original at all. OR a huge monster attacking new york, seen through a civilians camera. He knows how to make things work. He takes general ideas of things, and makes them crazy interesting and good.

Second that... Although I do think Lost is overrated. Clover filed was cool but was easily taken from concepts such as Godzilla98 and the recent influx of handheld reality type feeling formats.