Iron Man 2 Official Pictures, News, Gossip, Etc [Archive] - Page 18

wobbly

08-31-2009, 09:42 AM

On a side note, does anybody else hate the new design? it's too bright and flashy. Look like it's getting ready for a gay pride parade. I hate it. There was nothing wrong with the normal design. But, of course, they had to change it for no reason at all.

From the pics I've seen there's not that much of a difference as far as I can tell: Slightly lighter red, sleeker lines/body panels here and there, that's about it. Not that I think the MKIII needed changing, but this new one is fine by me as well.

kedrell

08-31-2009, 09:49 AM

I thought del torro was doing hobbit, I also think Jackson could do hulk, he'd make the leader such an engaging villain, and would add true character to hulk no matter what personality we see, and the fight scenes would be epic! If that were to happen the newest hulk franchise would go from good, to great.

Speaking of hulk I really hope there is a banner cameo that would lead to banner/hulk joining the team in the avengers movie.

PJ's still producing and writing it. He'll be kept very, very busy with that. I doubt he'll have time to direct an actual movie until the Hobbit is completed unless it's something tiny like District 9.

wobbly

08-31-2009, 09:50 AM

It seems to me that it wont be a trilogy (why do people always assume that?). They will keep churning out marvel movies as long as they can. A big marvel movieverse continuity with many heroes...
Marvel has got it right. DC should take the hint.

Marvels idea of linking the characters they control from the beginning was a very smart move. Just a shame they cant have Spider-Man, the X-Men or the FF to play with too.
I don't know what the long term plan is for Marvel but I would agree that as long as they can make good films with each character why stop at 3?

Shivsguy616

08-31-2009, 10:47 AM

PJ's still producing and writing it. He'll be kept very, very busy with that. I doubt he'll have time to direct an actual movie until the Hobbit is completed unless it's something tiny like District 9.

He didn't direct that.

kedrell

08-31-2009, 10:49 AM

He didn't direct that.

True but I didn't say he did. I just said that kind of tiny movie would likely be the only kind he'd have time for besides producing the Hobbit.

Shivsguy616

08-31-2009, 10:55 AM

True but I didn't say he did. I just said that kind of tiny movie would likely be the only kind he'd have time for besides producing the Hobbit.

Ok, your comment suggested to me that you thought that. By the way, 30million isn't really "tiny" in my opinion. Sure, it's not Hollywood blockbuster big, but there are many many films which would be tiny in comparison to 30mil.

kedrell

08-31-2009, 11:02 AM

Tiny by Hollywood standards was what I meant.

RealIrOnMaN

08-31-2009, 12:31 PM

Marvel HAD it right. The new Disney buy means we are all likely screwed.
* Existing licensing and distribution deals should remain where they are.
* With respect to Paramount’s distribution deal with Marvel and the Iron Man franchise, Disney has every intention to respect the deal that’s in place, but noted that it’s in their best interest, overtime, to become the sole distributor of Marvel films.

Superhero 101

08-31-2009, 01:36 PM

So would this mean all the movies would be rated G ???

AnorexicBatman

08-31-2009, 01:40 PM

I wonder if this will inspire Jon Fravreau to play some prank on us... he does that....

Twitter: Hey guys! IM2 will be kid friendly now! Disney bought Marvel!

Troy_Parker

08-31-2009, 01:48 PM

What??!! Disney Bought Marvel!!?? When??!! What!!?? Why!!??

wobbly

08-31-2009, 01:51 PM

So would this mean all the movies would be rated G ???

I wouldn't have thought so. Though Disney will own the characters they'd have to be complete morons to interfere that much: I figure they know there's a big difference between Iron Man and Donald Duck.

Will have to wait and see just how hands on they are with each film, and the books as well since they will own them too, but I would hope they have the good sense to leave the running of them down to the people who have been doing it for years.

wobbly

08-31-2009, 01:52 PM

What??!! Disney Bought Marvel!!?? When??!! What!!?? Why!!??

It's on the front page. Looks like quite a sweet deal for any Marvel shareholders out there.

Mr. Earle

08-31-2009, 04:33 PM

Marvel HAD it right. The new Disney buy means we are all likely screwed.God help us all...

Spider-Vader

08-31-2009, 06:41 PM

Disney's doing what they did with Pixar & is letting Marvel have complete control over their projects. They probably bought Marvel to attract adults & teen boys. They've been losing those groups because of all that g** teeny bopper s***.

marvel_freshman

08-31-2009, 07:20 PM

I really hope that Disney comes up with a new logo intro for the marvel films they are involved with because the 2 below are just too kiddish.

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<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ap0SrrMVMvw&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ap0SrrMVMvw&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>

haephestus

08-31-2009, 08:40 PM

Not really "new" news, but I thought this was interesting:

"Scarlett Johansson and Mickey Rourke apparently accepted $USD 400,000 ($476,083) each plus a take of profits to appear in Iron Man 2".

From: http://www.theage.com.au/executive-style/culture/reality-check-as-hollywoods-alist-feels-the-pinch-20090901-f5xt.html

Could work monetary wonders for Scar-Ho and Rourke and probably guarantees they'll be doing everything possibly to ensure the success of IM2.

Cheers.

Shadow-Guardian

08-31-2009, 10:36 PM

From the pics I've seen there's not that much of a difference as far as I can tell: Slightly lighter red, sleeker lines/body panels here and there, that's about it. Not that I think the MKIII needed changing, but this new one is fine by me as well.

No no no lol, I was talking about the forums change. But I saw that you can change it so nevermind. I LOVE the mark 4. It looks amazing.

So Disney bought Marvel. God...help...us...all. Now I will never see my dream of a Marvel: Ultimate Alliance movie on the big screen. Now we are gonna see Zac Efron as Peter Parker, Miley Cyrus as Mary Jane Watson, The Jonas Brothers as Wolverine, Iron Man, and Hulk, etc etc. This is, bar none, the worst news I've ever seen that is superhero related. Yeah, even worse than the Galactus cloud. Why, Marvel, WHY?!!

And to think I wrote a Marvel: Ultimate Alliance trailer. R.I.P Marvel. You were the best. Everyone bow their heads. *sounds of silence plays*

Figs

09-01-2009, 12:43 AM

Jesus Christ people are jumping the gun on this Disney news.

You do know that they have owned Mirimax for years right? The same Mirimax that just about all of Quentin Tarantino's films have been under?

Just because Disney owns the rights doesn't mean they're going to pussify Marvel's films. If anything it's them wanting a cut of the success that comic films have been having this last decade or so.

wobbly

09-01-2009, 06:49 AM

Yup, a big corporation known best for one kind of thing also owning things you'd never think to associate with them is nothing new. I doubt (and certainly hope) Disney won't stick their oar in too much with the existing plans of Marvel Studios.

I also figure the films will still be produced by Marvel Studios with Disney as the 'umbrella' presenting each flick (as they do with Pixar).

Wonder what this means for the big loan deal Marvel struck up to finance the films? Presumably Disney could just pay anything that might be owed (which should be nothing as both IM and Hulk made a profit on the financing) and cancel that deal now.

John Locke

09-01-2009, 06:53 AM

People are over reacting. Disney owns ABC but you don't see Miley Cyrus guest starring on Lost. The worst thing that could happen is Disney enforcing their no smoking policy rule.

kedrell

09-01-2009, 09:10 AM

Shadow-Guardian

09-01-2009, 10:20 AM

Well I suppose Disney is better than 20th Centuary Fox. At least they might treat their films with respect. Prince Of Persia for instance.

kedrell

09-01-2009, 10:39 AM

Yes, I would give them more of the benefit of the doubt than FOX. But I'd have been much more happy if this had been Viacom/Paramount.

Mr. Earle

09-01-2009, 12:56 PM

Well I suppose Disney is better than 20th Centuary Fox. At least they might treat their films with respect. Prince Of Persia for instance.
Barakapool seconds your post!

Patron12

09-01-2009, 01:10 PM

Yes, I would give them more of the benefit of the doubt than FOX. But I'd have been much more happy if this had been Viacom/Paramount.
yea agreed

wobbly

09-01-2009, 01:22 PM

Comparing Marvel to other non-kiddie properties that Disney has acquired like ABC or Miramax is misleading, IMO. Those properties didn't have to fight tooth and nail for over half a century to break free of the "kids stuff" moniker. Marvel has had to do that. Seriously, this is like an alcoholic who's been clean and sober for decades with lots of difficulty, and then having some jerk-off open a bar right next to the guy's house.

Well, I'd wait and see just how much they really want to directly affect Marvel as it stands: It's one thing to own the company, quite another to actually run it yourself. As Marvel already has a successful team in place (they certainly did well enough to have Disney sniff around) they'd be a bit daft to go and upset that.

Atm I figure they will put their own considerable financial weight behind the flicks (and the books to a lesser degree) and will leave the running of the company itself to the management in place.

strikezone89

09-01-2009, 02:03 PM

No no no lol, I was talking about the forums change. But I saw that you can change it so nevermind. I LOVE the mark 4. It looks amazing.

So Disney bought Marvel. God...help...us...all. Now I will never see my dream of a Marvel: Ultimate Alliance movie on the big screen. Now we are gonna see Zac Efron as Peter Parker, Miley Cyrus as Mary Jane Watson, The Jonas Brothers as Wolverine, Iron Man, and Hulk, etc etc. This is, bar none, the worst news I've ever seen that is superhero related. Yeah, even worse than the Galactus cloud. Why, Marvel, WHY?!!

And to think I wrote a Marvel: Ultimate Alliance trailer. R.I.P Marvel. You were the best. Everyone bow their heads. *sounds of silence plays*
Hey man just relax Disney owns Miramax which stated earlier releases all Tarintino's films ( so you shouldnt be worried one bit about marvel movies being toned down)... if anything this is a good thing for Marvel because Marvel has been having a little financial problem now with disney in there corner it means that Marvel can do bigger budget movies with the possibility of more A list stars wanting roles for Marvel films

Keyser Soze

09-01-2009, 02:36 PM

Shadow-Guardian

09-01-2009, 03:14 PM

As of right now, I'm not supporting this, I'm gonna do a wait and see. I just hope they don't tone anything down. They could still very well screw it all up. But maybe they won't. Only time will tell.

kedrell

09-01-2009, 05:10 PM

To be fair, Time Warner acquiring DC Comics didn't turn Batman and Superman into Looney Tunes...

The biggest difference being that Time Warner isn't nearly as synonymous with kiddie culture as Disney is. Here's my main concern in a nutshell; Marvel over the last few years has been honing themselves more and more razor sharp with their high quality approach to movies and having that edginess that is an absolute MUST to keep them competitive against stuff like WB/DC's TDK and such. Well the sharper your blade gets, the easier it is for it to get blunted. And THAT'S what I'm mainly worried about. And it really wouldn't take Rothman-level screw ups to get that to happen. Just a very little tweak caused by studio interference here and there would do the job.

Gamma Goliath

09-01-2009, 05:18 PM

I think this is a good thing for marvel, I really don't think Disney will stick their noses in everything, but I do see them making more cartoon series and toys. I hope they'll back marvel up financially though.

Keyser Soze

09-01-2009, 05:34 PM

The biggest difference being that Time Warner isn't nearly as synonymous with kiddie culture as Disney is. Here's my main concern in a nutshell; Marvel over the last few years has been honing themselves more and more razor sharp with their high quality approach to movies and having that edginess that is an absolute MUST to keep them competitive against stuff like WB/DC's TDK and such. Well the sharper your blade gets, the easier it is for it to get blunted. And THAT'S what I'm mainly worried about. And it really wouldn't take Rothman-level screw ups to get that to happen. Just a very little tweak caused by studio interference here and there would do the job.

And again, there has been nothing to suggest that Disney will do anything to interfere in Marvel's movies.

kedrell

09-01-2009, 05:49 PM

And again, there has been nothing to suggest that Disney will do anything to interfere in Marvel's movies.

Not sure I buy that but even if so, there doesn't need to be. The threat now exists where none like it existed before when Marvel was independant. Disney MAY not interfere(I hope so) but they certainly have the power to now if they wanted to.

Keyser Soze

09-01-2009, 05:57 PM

Not sure I buy that but even if so, there doesn't need to be. The threat now exists where none like it existed before when Marvel was independant. Disney MAY not interfere(I hope so) but they certainly have the power to now if they wanted to.

Sure, but worrying about that is like sitting down to Inglourious Basterds and worrying that they'll break into a musical number, or that Shosanna will be played by Hannah Montana.

Disney aren't looking to micromanage Marvel films. Not this generation of films, at least. If anything, Disney will be looking at the long game, AFTER this current generation of superhero movies, at the possiblities of a Disney Marvel movieverse, rather than being too concerned with the direction of the current movies.

But looking far ahead into any specifics probably belongs in a more general thread. At the very least, I don't see Disney affecting Iron Man 2 in any way, aside from it perhaps having a larger media presence in terms of getting prime trailer real estate on a greater variety of films and getting heavily promoted on ABC.

Chewy

09-01-2009, 06:01 PM

There is nothing in IM or TIH that is "edgier" than anything from the PotC films

Spider-Vader

09-01-2009, 08:40 PM

No no no lol, I was talking about the forums change. But I saw that you can change it so nevermind. I LOVE the mark 4. It looks amazing.

So Disney bought Marvel. God...help...us...all. Now I will never see my dream of a Marvel: Ultimate Alliance movie on the big screen. Now we are gonna see Zac Efron as Peter Parker, Miley Cyrus as Mary Jane Watson, The Jonas Brothers as Wolverine, Iron Man, and Hulk, etc etc. This is, bar none, the worst news I've ever seen that is superhero related. Yeah, even worse than the Galactus cloud. Why, Marvel, WHY?!!

And to think I wrote a Marvel: Ultimate Alliance trailer. R.I.P Marvel. You were the best. Everyone bow their heads. *sounds of silence plays*

Disney did this to get money from boys & adults. Those groups HATE Hannah Montanna & the Jonas Brothers. There's no way they'd potentially lose money by doing that. Girls will get Princesses & that teeny bopper s***. While boys will get Toy Story, Cars & Marvel.

kedrell

09-01-2009, 09:15 PM

There is nothing in IM or TIH that is "edgier" than anything from the PotC films

Hmm, I disagree. Scene's of pole-dancing stewardesess, sex, torture, some foul language(admittedly not that much, but still) all things you wouldn't get in a POTC film. And I expect they might very well push the envelope futher in IM2 based on what they've been saying.

kedrell

09-01-2009, 09:16 PM

Disney did this to get money from boys & adults. Those groups HATE Disney. There's no way they'd potentially lose money by doing that. Girls will get Princesses & that teeny bopper s***. While boys will get Toy Story, Cars & Marvel.

Fixed.

AnorexicBatman

09-01-2009, 09:20 PM

I am a boy. I LOVE Disney. Well classic Disney anyway...

kedrell

09-01-2009, 09:32 PM

^You're a small minority.

Aluchak

09-01-2009, 09:42 PM

I love classic disney too. I just ****ing can't STAND Disney now.

haephestus

09-02-2009, 12:56 AM

Ain't it Cool News (aintitcool.com) has a rumour up that Iron Man 2 will be released in 3D (and Iron Man may also be re-released in 3D prior to the release of IM2).

Could be cool, although I personally find "live action" 3D films headache inducing.

Cheers.

ultrasuperduckman

09-02-2009, 01:17 AM

The world of tomorrow.

Katsuro

09-02-2009, 02:51 AM

Fixed.

You seem to have completely missed his point. By buying Marvel, and catering it to the same crowd it already caters to, Disney is adding that demographic to it's own. It has plenty of projects to appeal to young kids and teenage girls, and now they have something for guys.

So yeah, they hate Disney, but the whole point of this buy-out is that they'll stop hating Disney.

Ziggyman

09-02-2009, 08:21 AM

Will Cowboys and Aliens affect the possibility or an Iron Man 3...?

Or is it like Nolan with The Prestige and Inception...?

FlawlessVictory

09-02-2009, 08:52 AM

^IM3 wasn't planned to be released until after The Avengers which drops in 2012. So you are looking at 2013 or 2014, I think it's safe to say IM3 will not be effected. The bigger question is will this effect Favreau's chances of directing The Avengers. I think it's been no secret that he wants to direct The Avengers and if there was a possibility that C&A would have effected that, I don't think he would have signed on as director of C&A.

Doctor Jones

09-02-2009, 12:01 PM

If it doesn't work out, Avengers can serve as sort of a IM3 for Ton'y scharacters. Maybe the Mandarin can be the villain in a way. Just a thought.

Figs

09-02-2009, 02:47 PM

^You're a small minority.

No, your in the small minority. Most people including guys/young men enjoy classic Disney, we just about all grew up on those films.

Dr. Evil

09-02-2009, 03:17 PM

Will Cowboys and Aliens affect the possibility or an Iron Man 3...?

Or is it like Nolan with The Prestige and Inception...?

It's probably the latter.

I loved classic Disney.

Keyser Soze

09-02-2009, 03:18 PM

No, your in the small minority. Most people including guys/young men enjoy classic Disney, we just about all grew up on those films.

Plus, just about everyone with a soul loves the Pixar movies.

Figs

09-02-2009, 03:32 PM

Plus, just about everyone with a soul loves the Pixar movies.

Exactly. I personally know so many other guys who enjoy Pixar's films even if they are still 'cartoons' essentially. Kedrell is seemingly one of the fanboys who is going overboard and on the verge of sounding paranoid that Disney is going to start forcing Marvel's films to be more childish.

Personally, the lame fanboyish jokes going around like Wolverine teaming up with Donald Duck and all of the rest of those jokes were already old and dumb the moment they started.

Spider-Vader

09-02-2009, 05:38 PM

I am a boy. I LOVE Disney. Well classic Disney anyway...
As a kid, I was obsessed with classic Disney (including the '90s cartoons). My first favorite super hero was Darkwing Duck.

wobbly

09-02-2009, 05:53 PM

Personally I liked Disney when I was very young but changed tastes by the time I got a bit older (about 6 or 7 or so) and given a choice between watching Mickey Mouse or Bugs Bunny I'd go with the rascally rabbit every time (Wile E. Coyote and Foghorn Leghorn are still my favorites).

This buy out is a little ironic for me on that level too: When I was a kid I regarded the difference between DC and Marvel as like that between the Disney and the Warner Bros cartoons: You had one being the more simple & childish and the other having that darker more adult edge to them (DC have changed a lot since then mind you what with characters being raped and corpses in refrigerators and the like) so If I'd thought either studio would wind up owning the comics I'd have gone for the reverse.

kedrell

09-02-2009, 06:49 PM

No, your in the small minority. Most people including guys/young men enjoy classic Disney, we just about all grew up on those films.

Among Marvel's fanbase? I don't think so. They are going berserk right now, and with good reason.

kedrell

09-02-2009, 06:54 PM

Plus, just about everyone with a soul loves the Pixar movies.

Wrong. Pixar may have better quality than the rest of Disney, I'll grant you. But they still make films for the same demographic as Disney. Well there's a whole host of people in the young male demographic who hate that kind of stuff.

You can polish a turd all you want but at the end of the day it's still a turd.

CaptainClown

09-02-2009, 06:56 PM

I really don't believe that disney is going to mess with a franchise that was fine on its own. Unless Marvel was going under (which it wasn't) I don't see any reason for Disney to mess with what isn't broken. I mean it would like being concerned if WB was going to take batman and make it something like 7th Heaven. Both same companies however it would be suicidal to get a successful franchise and mold it in how you see fit, especially since it was a fine product before.

however disney is an evil entity in the corporate world, and it could be viewed as a DARK REIGN over Marvel....ahh get it? see what I did there?

Keyser Soze

09-02-2009, 07:40 PM

Wrong. Pixar may have better quality than the rest of Disney, I'll grant you. But they still make films for the same demographic as Disney. Well there's a whole host of people in the young male demographic who hate that kind of stuff.

You can polish a turd all you want but at the end of the day it's still a turd.

I think equating Pixar films to turds is movie blasphemy of the highest order.

Sure, ADD kids who have no patience to deal with beautiful imagery or nuanced characters and just want to cut to the BIG EXPLOSIONS might dislike Pixar's output, but part of what made Iron Man a cut above in the first place was that it didn't solely cater to that fickle demographic.

Pixar shows that Disney is all for the production of films which are ostensibly children's fare, but are finely crafted with enough quality that viewers of any age can appreciate them. I'd say that would be a fine model for Marvel's movies to follow.

Keyser Soze

09-02-2009, 07:46 PM

Among Marvel's fanbase? I don't think so. They are going berserk right now, and with good reason.

Not really. They're going berserk, sure, but it's a kneejerk reaction. It's groundless panic. Any informed, objective commentator, anyone involved in the film industry.... they're all saying the same thing. Don't panic. This won't effect Marvel's movies. It certainly won't effect Marvel's comics. To everyone but the panicked fanboy, this is a good deal for both parties.

But sadly, on the battleground of the internet, these appeals for reason and rational thought are being drowned out by the cries of "ONE OF THE JONAS BROTHERS IS GONNA BE CAPTAIN AMERICA MICKEY MOUSE SPIDER-MAN CROSSOVERS KIDDIE AVENGER FILM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

kedrell

09-02-2009, 08:51 PM

I think equating Pixar films to turds is movie blasphemy of the highest order.

Sorry to burst your bubble but there is a whole lot of people who find Pixar's films to be well made kids movies, and kids movies to them automatically = crap. No matter what. Quality of the product isn't the issue, it's the product itself.

Sure, ADD kids who have no patience to deal with beautiful imagery or nuanced characters and just want to cut to the BIG EXPLOSIONS might dislike Pixar's output, but part of what made Iron Man a cut above in the first place was that it didn't solely cater to that fickle demographic.

Pixar shows that Disney is all for the production of films which are ostensibly children's fare, but are finely crafted with enough quality that viewers of any age can appreciate them. I'd say that would be a fine model for Marvel's movies to follow.

What really made Iron Man a cut above was that it was mature and not oriented mainly for children. Well Pixar's not going help there.

kedrell

09-02-2009, 08:56 PM

Not really. They're going berserk, sure, but it's a kneejerk reaction. It's groundless panic. Any informed, objective commentator, anyone involved in the film industry.... they're all saying the same thing. Don't panic. This won't effect Marvel's movies. It certainly won't effect Marvel's comics. To everyone but the panicked fanboy, this is a good deal for both parties.

But sadly, on the battleground of the internet, these appeals for reason and rational thought are being drowned out by the cries of "ONE OF THE JONAS BROTHERS IS GONNA BE CAPTAIN AMERICA MICKEY MOUSE SPIDER-MAN CROSSOVERS KIDDIE AVENGER FILM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

Then they haven't done their homework, or they are merely interested in profitability over pleasing the fanbase. Take Miramax for example(since all the Disneyphiles seem to want to use that to try to calm our fears); Until 2005 Disney only co-owned Miramax and this is when it did it's best work with guys like Tarantino. After 2005(when Disney owned them completely)? Not much, they suck now. Hardly a feather in Disney's cap to say the least. And don't even get me started on Touchstone. Have they made a good film in the nine years since Unbreakable?

FaT_tONle

09-02-2009, 10:53 PM

Gamma Goliath

09-02-2009, 11:12 PM

Wow I was talking to some friends of about the situation and they panicked I simply told them they had nothing to worry about, I the people who panic are the ones who don't fully understand the situation, so they end up posting mindless bable like "marvel fan boys SHOULD be mad" and "this will ruin marvel" and they truly don't even know why. When I first read it I knew instantly that this will definitely boost marvel financially in just about all aspects, marvels finally getting the leg up they need.

louiebling$

09-03-2009, 12:09 AM

We have 2 other Marvel/Diney Threads.. do we really need another??

O and by the Way... I'm 21 and love all the old Disney Classics and have loved every Pixar Film to date except Cars and Bolt(though I haven't watched Bolt cuz I really have no interest in it.)

Superhero 101

09-03-2009, 12:56 AM

Last Great Disney Movie was Finding Nemo And The Incredibles didn't like Cars and Didn't Like Up

strikezone89

09-03-2009, 01:08 AM

why does everyone assume Fav is out for director in the Avengers

Aesop Rocks

09-03-2009, 02:01 AM

Cowboys and Indians, that's why.

Shadow-Guardian

09-03-2009, 04:14 AM

Cowboys and Aliens*

He could still direct, it
s likely we won't see an Avengers movie till 2012 or 2013. C&A should be out on dvd by then. It's very possible he could direct it, and imo, is the best directer for the job.

Mr. Earle

09-03-2009, 05:08 AM

Last Great Disney Movie was Finding Nemo And The Incredibles didn't like Cars and Didn't Like UpWall-e was amazing too!

FlawlessVictory

09-03-2009, 09:36 AM

I think that is pretty much out the window now. I'm glad. Guy needs a break from Marvel.

Or, I wouldn't be surprised to hear The Avengers is being pushed back again a year or two.

Keyser Soze

09-03-2009, 10:56 AM

Sorry to burst your bubble but there is a whole lot of people who find Pixar's films to be well made kids movies, and kids movies to them automatically = crap. No matter what. Quality of the product isn't the issue, it's the product itself.

Yes, I'm sure there are people who make narrow knee-jerk judgements of a film, calling a film that is clearly high quality "crap" solely because it's a children's movie. But this narrow margin of filmgoers are, to be frank, idiots. The kind of people who think ET is "gay", or that the Indiana Jones films are "boring" because they were made over 10 years ago. Adolescent minds with adolescent interests, and adolescent attention spans. Which brings us too...

What really made Iron Man a cut above was that it was mature and not oriented mainly for children. Well Pixar's not going help there.

You say this, yet your main concern with any Marvel/Disney merger is that it will anger the most juvenile, petty and distinctly immature portions of the audience.

Basically, your whole argument seems steeped in insecurity. It's less about what Disney taking over Marvel will do to the films themselves (nothing), but rather about how it will make people (generally, uninformed people) PERCIEVE Marvel films. Because God forbid moviegoers think a fantasy adventure about a millionaire who dresses up in a robot suit to fight crime is anything less than the most intellectual of adult fare.

FaT_tONle

09-03-2009, 12:11 PM

Or, I wouldn't be surprised to hear The Avengers is being pushed back again a year or two.

Not sure how good an idea it is to delay it just to accomodate Favs as director. I guess you could still live if it went to 2013. I just want him to direct IM3 and I'm not sure how realistic it is to direct Avengers/IM3 back to back. They still can't even get Spidey sequels filmed back to back.

Figs

09-03-2009, 01:21 PM

Among Marvel's fanbase? I don't think so. They are going berserk right now, and with good reason.

It's not for good reason. It's typical fanboy(which comic fans next to Star Wars fans take the cake for "fanboy" type attitudes/reactions) crying and whining before anything has truly happened to justify they're BS remarks and comments.Yes, I'm sure there are people who make narrow knee-jerk judgements of a film, calling a film that is clearly high quality "crap" solely because it's a children's movie. But this narrow margin of filmgoers are, to be frank, idiots. The kind of people who think ET is "gay", or that the Indiana Jones films are "boring" because they were made over 10 years ago. Adolescent minds with adolescent interests, and adolescent attention spans. Which brings us too...

You say this, yet your main concern with any Marvel/Disney merger is that it will anger the most juvenile, petty and distinctly immature portions of the audience.

Basically, your whole argument seems steeped in insecurity. It's less about what Disney taking over Marvel will do to the films themselves (nothing), but rather about how it will make people (generally, uninformed people) PERCIEVE Marvel films. Because God forbid moviegoers think a fantasy adventure about a millionaire who dresses up in a robot suit to fight crime is anything less than the most intellectual of adult fare.

Eh, I'm done with kedrell, he's a typical fanboy. I agree that most of the people are idiots who find animated Disney films crap or gay. They're just young adults/kids who are still trying to be 'cool'. I'm 28 and have no shame in admitting I still can enjoy the classic Disney films I grew up with.

Also it's funny that you mentioned that gay comment Keyser because in the Disney/Marvel thread in Community Chat, Kedrell went on to say that he never wore pajamas or had a lunch pail at school when he was really young like the majority if not everybody in that age group...plus he also said those things are "gay".

I can't take him seriously with that kind of bigoted close minded attitude, much like I said about the young kids trying to be cool, I have a hard time thinking he's not still in high school or middle school.

Keyser Soze

09-03-2009, 01:57 PM

GhostPoet

09-03-2009, 02:05 PM

Figs

09-03-2009, 02:08 PM

The support is appreciated, Figs. :) However, that may be a little harsh on kedrell. I've never had any problems with him before, it's only on this particular issue that we're in quite vehement disagreement.

I've never had any problems with him before either but for this case he really is going into typical fanboy territory whether he's usually like that or not. I just found it ridiculous that he would say that wearing PJs and having a lunchpail is "gay". If you have or wear those it's because your a little kid for christs sake.

FlawlessVictory

09-03-2009, 02:10 PM

Not sure how good an idea it is to delay it just to accomodate Favs as director. I guess you could still live if it went to 2013. I just want him to direct IM3 and I'm not sure how realistic it is to direct Avengers/IM3 back to back. They still can't even get Spidey sequels filmed back to back.

I didn't mean it was perhaps delayed to accommodate Favs, just that it was maybe delayed and Favs took the opportunity to take another project which was C&A. But who knows, I'm just speculating. This Avengers film is such a daunting project though that I would be surprised if went off without a hitch.

UnionJack

09-03-2009, 02:21 PM

Any new Iron Man 2 news or is it just about this Disney stuff?!

kedrell

09-03-2009, 03:42 PM

Yes, I'm sure there are people who make narrow knee-jerk judgements of a film, calling a film that is clearly high quality "crap" solely because it's a children's movie. But this narrow margin of filmgoers are, to be frank, idiots. The kind of people who think ET is "gay", or that the Indiana Jones films are "boring" because they were made over 10 years ago. Adolescent minds with adolescent interests, and adolescent attention spans. Which brings us too...

My, how elitist. Interesting how people with the mindset of trying to get as far away from childish things as possible(the ones you just put down) = adolescent. I think that's an oxymoron, myself.

You say this, yet your main concern with any Marvel/Disney merger is that it will anger the most juvenile, petty and distinctly immature portions of the audience.

Basically, your whole argument seems steeped in insecurity. It's less about what Disney taking over Marvel will do to the films themselves (nothing), but rather about how it will make people (generally, uninformed people) PERCIEVE Marvel films. Because God forbid moviegoers think a fantasy adventure about a millionaire who dresses up in a robot suit to fight crime is anything less than the most intellectual of adult fare.

Again, you're defining your own terms, and I don't buy the premise. I'd say the Disneyphiles are the ones who are juvenile. Just look at what they like to watch. Kids films. Now I don't think there's anything wrong with kids films being for kids, but the reason I still like Marvel is that they aren't that way. I can not say enough how skeptical I am of this merger being a good deal for creative purposes. I'm sure it'll be a financial bonanza but that's not where my concern lies.

And intellectual does not solely = adult. Adult is more than just that. It's grittiness, and rawness and kick ass-ness as well.

CaptainClown

09-03-2009, 03:48 PM

Disney did the first pirate of the caribbean, but also did those crappy 2 other ones so who knows.

kedrell

09-03-2009, 03:52 PM

It's not for good reason. It's typical fanboy(which comic fans next to Star Wars fans take the cake for "fanboy" type attitudes/reactions) crying and whining before anything has truly happened to justify they're BS remarks and comments.

It IS for good reason. Do you think this same reaction would be occuring if it had been Viacom/Paramount that had purchased Marvel? You know they wouldn't be bellyaching about it nearly as much. But Disney has not developed any read cred with the demographic they are now courting with this merger. So why should anyone be suprised at this reaction. Disney seems to have done everything in it's power in the last several years to say "F-You, we don't need your business" to this demographic. All of a sudden we're supposed to love them bcause otherwise we're not being very politically correct and sensitive? The hell with that.

Eh, I'm done with kedrell, he's a typical fanboy. I agree that most of the people are idiots who find animated Disney films crap or gay. They're just young adults/kids who are still trying to be 'cool'. I'm 28 and have no shame in admitting I still can enjoy the classic Disney films I grew up with.

Also it's funny that you mentioned that gay comment Keyser because in the Disney/Marvel thread in Community Chat, Kedrell went on to say that he never wore pajamas or had a lunch pail at school when he was really young like the majority if not everybody in that age group...plus he also said those things are "gay".

I can't take him seriously with that kind of bigoted close minded attitude, much like I said about the young kids trying to be cool, I have a hard time thinking he's not still in high school or middle school.

Political correctness on parade there. Sorry, but I just don't swing that way.

kedrell

09-03-2009, 03:53 PM

Disney did the first pirate of the caribbean, but also did those crappy 2 other ones so who knows.

I didn't care for any of them and it's not as if any of them lit the world on fire critically.

kedrell

09-03-2009, 03:55 PM

The support is appreciated, Figs. :) However, that may be a little harsh on kedrell. I've never had any problems with him before, it's only on this particular issue that we're in quite vehement disagreement.

Maybe we should just agree to disagree on this, because I know I sure as hell ain't moving from my opinion until I see some tangible proof that Disney isn't going to screw it up. And that'll take years to see. The only point I wish to conclude with is that there's really no good reason for me(or the rest that are getting angry about this) to give them the benefit of the doubt at this point. Marvel started rebuilding their shattered cred with these new in-house films and this merger has once again put them back to the starting line.

CaptainClown

09-03-2009, 03:57 PM

I didn't care for any of them and it's not as if any of them lit the world on fire critically.1st one is amazing, if anything it was handled like Iron Man. Maturely while still being accessible to younger audiences.

kedrell

09-03-2009, 04:04 PM

1st one is amazing, if anything it was handled like Iron Man. Maturely while still being accessible to younger audiences.

Eh, I don't see it. And there's about a 20 point difference between the two in critical percentages. I'd say POTC1 was more like the first TF movie than Iron Man(a bigger hit with audiences than critics).

CaptainClown

09-03-2009, 04:07 PM

kedrell

09-03-2009, 04:12 PM

Really? My goodness what a perception you have of Iron Man which was quite child like if you ask me. It was like Rocketeer another Disney movie. And Iron Man critically acclaimed? it wasn't that good.

Please do your homework before posting. I'm sure they have lots of sex and violence and scenes of torture and whatnot in child like movies. You want childlike? POTC fits the bill quite a bit more. And the Rocketeer(a rare good Disney film) came out how long ago? Nearly 20 years ago.

And yes, Iron Man was(at the time it was released) the single best reviewed live action superhero film ever made. EVER! Then TDK came out a couple months later and bested it.

CaptainClown

09-03-2009, 04:16 PM

Figs

09-03-2009, 04:26 PM

It IS for good reason. Do you think this same reaction would be occuring if it had been Viacom/Paramount that had purchased Marvel? You know they wouldn't be bellyaching about it nearly as much. But Disney has not developed any read cred with the demographic they are now courting with this merger. So why should anyone be suprised at this reaction. Disney seems to have done everything in it's power in the last several years to say "F-You, we don't need your business" to this demographic. All of a sudden we're supposed to love them bcause otherwise we're not being very politically correct and sensitive? The hell with that.

Political correctness on parade there. Sorry, but I just don't swing that way.

First off, I'm totally against being politically correct or brainwashed as I like to think of it. It wasn't necessarily the remark "gay" that you used but just the fact that you were knocking PJs and lunchpails which little kids in grade school or younger would wear/have, especially if you grew up in the 80's like I did. I would have found it just as ignorant if you had called it lame or stupid instead of gay.

I still don't see why you and others are crying bloody murder this early. By your logic as well as a lot of other fanboys, Disney would have screwed with so many movies from the other studios/production companies they bought in the past like Mirimax but they haven't watered any of those R rated films down like Fox would do.

Keyser Soze

09-03-2009, 04:33 PM

Again, you're defining your own terms, and I don't buy the premise. I'd say the Disneyphiles are the ones who are juvenile. Just look at what they like to watch. Kids films. Now I don't think there's anything wrong with kids films being for kids, but the reason I still like Marvel is that they aren't that way. I can not say enough how skeptical I am of this merger being a good deal for creative purposes. I'm sure it'll be a financial bonanza but that's not where my concern lies.

And intellectual does not solely = adult. Adult is more than just that. It's grittiness, and rawness and kick ass-ness as well.

And with this line, your argument falls apart, as the shaky foundations you are resting them on become clear.

It would seem that you think violent deaths, potty mouths and T&A make something mature. And if something's animated, it's dismissed as "kid's stuff". I'd in fact argue that the ideas explored in the likes of Wall-E or Up, or the films of Hayao Miyazaki, have far more resonance to a grown-up viewer than a dozen torture-porn slashers or explodey CG fests. An R rating and GRIT doesn't equate to maturity.

And as a superhero fan myself, I can say that's rather ironic seeing someone who likes superheroes mock someone else's interests as juvenile. And I know what you're going to say, "DON'T DISMISS MARVEL COMICS AS KID'S STUFF, EVERYONE THINKS IT'S FOR KIDS, BUT THERE'S STUFF FOR GROWN-UPS IN THERE TOO!" Well, same applies to Disney. Not all of it, of course, but the better stuff for sure.

Keyser Soze

09-03-2009, 04:38 PM

Also, I think the comparison between Iron Man and Pirates of the Caribbean (the first one, at least) is in fact very apt. Both are decently-plotted films which could have been standard CGI-laden summer blockbuster fare, but both are driven by an excellent leading performance by an incredible actor not known for doing blockbusters, whose unconventional approach to their protagonist energises the whole film and makes it much more than the sum of its parts.

kedrell

09-03-2009, 05:09 PM

Really you consider that to actually have sex violence and scenes of torture? There are implications of sex, mild violence and mild torture. When you describe it like that it makes it sound like its a crazy rated R film. It was PG 13 and not really pushing the limit. might I remind you of the comical booster scenes in Iron Man and the loving robot arm, oh ya and the sit down with burger king.

And when I mean critically acclaimed I don't mean within its genre. My goodness you are an angry fanboy no wonder people are tired of arguing with you.

A 93% frsh rating on RT is extremely impressive for any genre, not just superheroes. And I'm tired of arguing too. I'm obviously not going to convince you Disney lovers. Your mind is made up. Mine as well, being an avid Disney hater. So there is no futher point to it. I'm done talkin' about it.

UnionJack

09-03-2009, 05:13 PM

So yes still all talking bout the Disney stuff.

Snooze.

Figs

09-03-2009, 05:13 PM

A 93% frsh rating on RT is extremely impressive for any genre, not just superheroes. And I'm tired of arguing too. I'm obviously not going to convince you Disney lovers. Your mind is made up. Mine as well, being an avid Disney hater. So there is no futher point to it. I'm done talkin' about it.

I wouldn't go so far as to call me a "Disney lover". I enjoyed their classic animated films growing up and still do but don't care to own any of them on DVD. A lot of us aren't Disney lovers but mature and rational thinkers. :)

Spider-Vader

09-03-2009, 05:46 PM

kedrell

09-03-2009, 05:54 PM

So yes still all talking bout the Disney stuff.

Snooze.

Not me anymore. I'm done with the subject. My mental heath requires it. I already had a conniption a few days ago, I don't need another.

UnionJack

09-03-2009, 06:09 PM

Not me anymore. I'm done with the subject. My mental heath requires it. I already had a conniption a few days ago, I don't need another.

Just find it boring, know one knows the future, yet it angers me what the future maybe!?

So as of now I'd rather we enjoy the films been produced and hope the rest after are good/worth watching.

Dr. Evil

09-03-2009, 06:44 PM

Bolt wasn't Pixar, hence why you didn't hear mind blowingly awesome things about it.

Wasn't it Dreamworks?

bunk

09-03-2009, 07:08 PM

You didn't hear too much about Bolt (if you're over the age of 10), but it still had great reviews.

danoyse

09-03-2009, 09:24 PM

Not me anymore. I'm done with the subject. My mental heath requires it. I already had a conniption a few days ago, I don't need another.

Yes, you are going to need to stop - and I'll remind you again that referring to things as "gay" in deragatory manner like that is not acceptable.

There are plenty of threads to discuss the Disney/Marvel merger, let's not turn this into another one.

kedrell

09-03-2009, 10:25 PM

^Now you're the one who's bringing it up again. I haven't since you told me not to. Don't worry, I practice free speach elsewhere, mein fuher. I know enough not to expect such things on SHH.

SlackBrian

09-04-2009, 12:08 AM

Using derogatory terms such as "gay" in such a casual and offensive way isn't the best way to express your free speech, anyways...

Shadow-Guardian

09-04-2009, 01:47 AM

You're asking for a probation, or ban, kendrell. Stop already. Back-talking and arguing with a mod is not a smart thing to do.

Carlo Comicus

09-04-2009, 02:11 AM

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/09/03/ghostface-killah-talks-iron-man-2-and-the-price-of-a-tony-starks-cameo/

Shadow-Guardian

09-04-2009, 05:04 AM

Aw day-yum dawg. I is so mad dat a wannabe rapper that stole a name from a comic book character isn't gonna be in the film. I'm gonna write Jon about this. How DARE Jon not put in a stupid rapper in the movie!

danoyse

09-04-2009, 08:21 AM

^Now you're the one who's bringing it up again. I haven't since you told me not to. Don't worry, I practice free speach elsewhere, mein fuher. I know enough not to expect such things on SHH.

Seeing as you saw fit to defend it, it was worth another reminder. There's a big difference between free speech and offensive remarks, and the latter is not permitted here.

Now get back on topic and quit with the Disney rant. We have other threads for that, and this isn't one of them.

UnionJack

09-04-2009, 09:07 AM

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/09/03/ghostface-killah-talks-iron-man-2-and-the-price-of-a-tony-starks-cameo/

I'm tired of seeing rappers have cameos in films.

Most can't act at all and they don't progress the story at all, just another boring celeb cameo no-one but them care about.

Oh and getting 30grand for his "cameo" what a joke, I'd do it for free, heck I'd pay THEM to let me stand around in the background. What a waste of money.

ViciousValentin

09-04-2009, 10:05 AM

^^^hater

Figs

09-04-2009, 10:46 AM

I'm tired of seeing rappers have cameos in films.

Most can't act at all and they don't progress the story at all, just another boring celeb cameo no-one but them care about.

Oh and getting 30grand for his "cameo" what a joke, I'd do it for free, heck I'd pay THEM to let me stand around in the background. What a waste of money.

Damn right. This is the day and age of film we live in. They would rather pay some rapper $30,000 then put that money to good use in the film.

I understand in the world of film/Hollywood there has always been 'movie stars', people who aren't exactly great actors but have a face and are popular. I'm just sick of how in the last decade or so, so many rappers/hip hop artists are getting into acting just to further their careers(face it the fame from being an actor will always trump the fame of being a rock star/musician)rather than doing it for the craft.

Greatest example, Ludacris(sp?). That mother ****er can't act, he's just playing himself in every movie he's in, just saying his lines. Just look at him in the movie Gamer, it truly makes me laugh and feel disgusted at the sametime.

I'm sure glad they didn't get him back for the sequel.

Keyser Soze

09-04-2009, 10:48 AM

On the other hand, respect is due to Mos Def, who has taken the effort to learn the craft, and has gone out of his way to play distinctly non-gangsta roles.

Figs

09-04-2009, 10:54 AM

On the other hand, respect is due to Mos Def, who has taken the effort to learn the craft, and has gone out of his way to play distinctly non-gangsta roles.

There are a few diamonds in the rough but very very few. Beyonce is someone who needs to have her ass kicked out of film, that's for sure.

UnionJack

09-04-2009, 11:23 AM

^^^hater

In the real world if your paid to do a job and you can't do it you get fired.

It seems if you write crappy music no one cares about you can get into film/tv all you want and be totally bad at it.

UnionJack

09-04-2009, 11:25 AM

Damn right. This is the day and age of film we live in. They would rather pay some rapper $30,000 then put that money to good use in the film.

I understand in the world of film/Hollywood there has always been 'movie stars', people who aren't exactly great actors but have a face and are popular. I'm just sick of how in the last decade or so, so many rappers/hip hop artists are getting into acting just to further their careers(face it the fame from being an actor will always trump the fame of being a rock star/musician)rather than doing it for the craft.

Greatest example, Ludacris(sp?). That mother ****er can't act, he's just playing himself in every movie he's in, just saying his lines. Just look at him in the movie Gamer, it truly makes me laugh and feel disgusted at the sametime.

I'm sure glad they didn't get him back for the sequel.

Too right, I'm sure there are plenty of unknowns who can do a totally better job than they do at a fraction of the price.

Seeing Will-am-I ham fist it up in Wolverine was a total and utter joke, he probably got a few 100G's to do that gig and he was painfully crap.

UnionJack

09-04-2009, 11:27 AM

There are a few diamonds in the rough but very very few. Beyonce is someone who needs to have her ass kicked out of film, that's for sure.

Again I totally, Beyonce can't act at all yet gets films all the time.

Why ... cos people like her woddling crap music, SO WHAT, doesn't mean she can act, she always just looks cold and stiff.

Shadow-Guardian

09-04-2009, 12:38 PM

Also the RZA. He's played gangsta-like characters but is a pretty good actor. Take his role in Derailed with Clive Owen and Jennifer Aniston. I thought he was really good in that.

powerbomb1411

09-04-2009, 04:06 PM

There's a big difference between free speech and offensive remarks, and the latter is not permitted here.

Except offensive remarks can be anything.

Jews get mad at The Passion of the Christ.
Catholics get mad at The Davinci Code.
Persians get mad at 300.
Russians get mad at Indiana Jones.
Gays, Parents and Catholics get mad at Kevin Smith.

And it's all over trivial crap.

People are too sensitive and need to stop making a big deal out of nothing. And sites like SHH! cracking down, making sure people are being PC are only harming the world.

Shivsguy616

09-04-2009, 04:23 PM

Except offensive remarks can be anything.

Jews get mad at The Passion of the Christ.
Catholics get mad at The Davinci Code.
Persians get mad at 300.
Russians get mad at Indiana Jones.
Gays, Parents and Catholics get mad at Kevin Smith.

And it's all over trivial crap.

People are too sensitive and need to stop making a big deal out of nothing. And sites like SHH! cracking down, making sure people are being PC are only harming the world.

Calling things gay when you mean they're stupid IS idiotic though. "Offensive" is just a buzz word for those who don't have any retorts, but using a word in that manner is in no way justified.

kedrell

09-04-2009, 05:38 PM

Calling things *** when you mean they're stupid IS idiotic though. "Offensive" is just a buzz word for those who don't have any retorts, but using a word in that manner is in no way justified.

Wow, so you're a mind reader, huh? When did I ever say I meant stupid?

Let's just drop this already, dammit!

Shivsguy616

09-04-2009, 05:41 PM

Wow, so you're a mind reader, huh? When did I ever say I meant stupid?

Let's just drop this already, dammit!

Who said I was talking about you specifically? And if you're going to quote me, don't edit my post.

Spider-Vader

09-04-2009, 07:05 PM

Wasn't it Dreamworks?
Nah, it was just regular old Disney.

Gamma Goliath

09-04-2009, 07:28 PM

man stuff is getting heated here. has there been any kind of news in this drought.

CaptainClown

09-04-2009, 07:31 PM

hmm same ol same ol i see

danoyse

09-04-2009, 08:46 PM

I think it's time we get back on topic...

Ziggyman

09-04-2009, 08:58 PM

Any new news...?

darkslayer101

09-04-2009, 10:53 PM

Any new news...?

this boards have been dead for a long time....

UnionJack

09-05-2009, 02:07 AM

for a film that has wrapped up shooting, managed to get a trailer and some fx done its odd that we get little to nothing new

:(

PyroChamber

09-05-2009, 02:50 AM

I say we'll probably get some new stuff around November or December.

Shadow-Guardian

09-05-2009, 04:44 AM

Remember when this thread was about news and pictures? Yep, those were the good 'ol days, weren't they?

Comic_maniac

09-05-2009, 10:43 AM

i want some news!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cmad:

Doctor Jones

09-05-2009, 10:51 AM

This place won't be hopping again until the offical trailer. Which I hope comes out this month or maybe the next.

kedrell

09-05-2009, 11:11 AM

Well if it is anything like last time we'd get something w/n a week. I doubt it though. Favs would have told us to keep our eyes open for it by now.

Comic_maniac

09-05-2009, 12:47 PM

hey, doctor jones, what is your avy from?

Carlo Comicus

09-05-2009, 01:16 PM

i want some news!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cmad:

In the mid of september some news is coming...

Shadow-Guardian

09-05-2009, 01:29 PM

How do you know that, Carlo?

RealIrOnMaN

09-05-2009, 03:09 PM

Yeah, Carlo, how indeed?)

kedrell

09-05-2009, 03:58 PM

hey, doctor jones, what is your avy from?

The trailer to Inception.

Keyser Soze

09-05-2009, 04:05 PM

In the mid of september some news is coming...

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DCnightwing23

09-05-2009, 04:06 PM

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x41/cgm100/4976474_643x1000.jpg
This thread has been slow so heres a fan art / concept art. Enjoy

Shadow-Guardian

09-05-2009, 04:15 PM

:facepalm Oh jesus christ here we go again...

Dr Lee

09-05-2009, 04:22 PM

just when we thought it was safe..... He's back LMAO

Dr Lee

09-05-2009, 05:20 PM

the problem is that image is not concept art at all... so it should have been in the Fanart area, not here. Still.... nice image

my last post was said in pure jest... or i was at least attempting to jest.

BobJM

09-05-2009, 05:21 PM

Shadow G and Dr. Lee just shut up seriously, this thread has been quiet and slow as hell lately that ive been gone. You have been off topic and just been plain stupid. That is a really well done fan art/ concept art someone has made thats clearly based off the trailer. We should appreciate it. And stay on topic. So shut up and stay on topic or get the hell out. At least im posting stuff related to IM2 instead of talking about pointless crap.

OR we should put it in the thread designated for fan art...?

Saint

09-05-2009, 05:27 PM

There's a big difference between free speech and offensive remarks, and the latter is not permitted here.
Actually, there isn't. I'm not defending anyone's comments here (I don't care either way), but I thought this should be clarified. You can't say that you allow free speech with the exception of offensive comments, because that is restricted speech, which is the opposite of free. This forum does not permit free speech. That's not an insult, that's just a reality. Restricting speech is the right of the people who run this forum (this is a privately owned and operated service, and the people who use are not entitled to free speech unless the owners permit it). Similarly, you can't walk into a McDonalds, start shouting obscenities and expect to have your speech protected.

I'm just trying to clarify that when members here complains about free speech, the correct response would be to inform them that they are not entitled to free speech on this forum, and that what they are allowed or not allowed to say is at the discretion of those running the board.

Ace of Knaves

09-05-2009, 05:29 PM

Free speech is overrated anyway.

Aztec

09-05-2009, 11:01 PM

1) The term freedom of speech is protection against the government punishing you. It has nothing to do with posting on a private message board.

2) I could have sworn that this thread was for discussing Iron Man 2 news.

Carlo Comicus

09-06-2009, 02:33 AM

How do you know that, Carlo?

In the recent past I have realize many interviews (posted on the SHH forums) with Lexi Alexander, Ben Snow (ILM) and many actors from comic book movie and you ask me "How do you know that?".:woot:

Shadow-Guardian

09-06-2009, 05:00 AM

DC, if you're going to come here and start this crap all over again, and post fake crap again, then just leave. And don't start acting like "OH WELL ITS BORING HERE! I POSTED THIS FAKE THING AND YOU SHOULD THANK ME! :(" again. And btw, this is for OFFICIAL PICTURES, and news. NOT FAN ART. Keep it up and you are gonna get banned.

Ace of Knaves

09-06-2009, 05:08 AM

Also the RZA. He's played gangsta-like characters but is a pretty good actor. Take his role in Derailed with Clive Owen and Jennifer Aniston. I thought he was really good in that.

RZA is a very decent actor. He was great in Cigerettes and Coffee.

A while ago I actually suggested him for Riddler. An idea so ****ing crazy it could actually work. I still believe that. But that's for a different debate in a different thread in a different universe :D

But to be honest I look at RZA as much more than just a rapper. More like a musical pioneer.

CaptainClown

09-06-2009, 05:11 AM

rza is a very decent actor. He was great in cigerettes and coffee.

A while ago i actually suggested him for riddler. An idea so ****ing crazy it could actually work. I still believe that. But that's for a different debate in a different thread in a different universe :d

but to be honest i look at rza as much more than just a rapper. More like a musical pioneer.
yo bill murray!

Ace of Knaves

09-06-2009, 05:21 AM

Are you a bug Bill Murray! :funny:

Shivsguy616

09-06-2009, 09:33 AM

In the recent past I have realize many interviews (posted on the SHH forums) with Lexi Alexander, Ben Snow (ILM) and many actors from comic book movie and you ask me "How do you know that?".:woot:

....................so how do you know that?

John Locke

09-06-2009, 09:44 AM

I hope history repeats itself and the teaser trailer comes out the second Monday in September. The first Iron Man teaser came out on September 10, 2007 the second Monday.

kedrell

09-06-2009, 10:12 AM

^Jon gave us a heads up on that well in advance. We'd have heard about something by now, I think.

John Locke

09-06-2009, 11:45 AM

^ When the footage was leaked he did say he was working on an official version so there is hope. I'm not saying it will happen I'm just saying if it happens this month it most likely be then.

Shadow-Guardian

09-06-2009, 11:59 AM

Want something to hold you over? Close your eyes and imagine War Machine in glorious HD. *daydreams and drools*

Superhero 101

09-06-2009, 12:01 PM

The only part that i couldn't see jack squat in the leaked version was when Iron Man Was Flying and dodging missiles.

Shadow-Guardian

09-06-2009, 12:06 PM

Me neither. It was too dark and fuzzy.

marvel_freshman

09-06-2009, 03:47 PM

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4015/warmachinefinalv.jpg

Dr Lee

09-06-2009, 03:53 PM

is that.....real?

Jostru

09-06-2009, 03:55 PM

I was thinking the same, Dr Lee...

Dr Lee

09-06-2009, 03:58 PM

irritatingly, the glut of fake stuff posted has left me a bit.. meh to any War Machine images....

But the pose is similar to the one shown in the Comic-con trailer

bossman550

09-06-2009, 04:01 PM

im almost positive its fake

marvel_freshman

09-06-2009, 04:06 PM

I wasn't sure if it was real or not when I posted it, but now after staring at it for a while, I can see that this suit isn't the same as the one in the footage. Trust Me.

John Locke

09-06-2009, 04:06 PM

irritatingly, the glut of fake stuff posted has left me a bit.. meh to any War Machine images....

But the pose is similar to the one shown in the Comic-con trailer

But he didn't have a gun on both shoulders. I'm going to say fake.

Sarg92

09-06-2009, 04:08 PM

Just look at it.

It is clearly, 100% fake.

It is a manip and pretty good one too but it is not from the film.

Just look at the bullets.

thewhyteman

09-06-2009, 05:49 PM

there is no orange light reflection from the fire on the armor.

Fake.

But still a cool pic.

UnionJack

09-06-2009, 05:59 PM

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4015/warmachinefinalv.jpg

Where did you get this from ... don't say you found it, link us to where its from.

I'm pretty sure its fake as the falling bullets look awful.

wobbly

09-06-2009, 06:39 PM

It's a very good manip but the shoulder guns are the biggest give away: In the comic con footage he has the one gun (which is more like the one on the left shoulder in this pic, rather than the bigger mini-gun on the right) that swings around his back (in the footage at first it looks like it's on the left then it swings to the right as he turns).
Would be interested to know where this came from though (props to the artist for a very good job)

Kanon

09-06-2009, 06:50 PM

****, that looks just like the last part of the Comi Con clip...

Gamma Goliath

09-06-2009, 07:21 PM

That's fake, good idea, wrong exicution.

Shadow-Guardian

09-06-2009, 08:03 PM

And also, his arc reacter in the SDCC footage is blue, not red.

Still, you gotta admit, it's a very good manip.

Spider-Vader

09-06-2009, 08:05 PM

That War Machine picture is badass. I really wish we can get a clear look of the real movie version soon.

CaptainClown

09-06-2009, 08:58 PM

It looks like if we had War Machine created with the CG from the Spawn movie.

BuckyLittleWing

09-06-2009, 10:50 PM

damn, that pic got everyone all stirred up...very good manip. although the armor is a little funky lookin on the stomach/ribs and biceps

XxDelta09xX

09-07-2009, 12:46 AM

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4015/warmachinefinalv.jpg

This is Awesome.:woot:

Doctor Jones

09-07-2009, 09:20 AM

I believe War Machine was bulkier in the footage. Was it just me, or did it look like he had a metallic looking skirt on?

Hazelnut624

09-07-2009, 09:53 AM

WE KNOW ITS FAKE. its probably from the video game.

Ace of Knaves

09-07-2009, 09:53 AM

Cool manip, I like that they threw the shotgun on his shoulder for good measure. I wonder where that will go in the actual movie?

Immortalfire

09-07-2009, 11:53 AM

Fake, but looks good nonetheless.

Shadow-Guardian

09-07-2009, 01:39 PM

Me wants tray-lur now plz. :(

King of Kings

09-07-2009, 01:49 PM

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4015/warmachinefinalv.jpg

Nice manip, shame it's just that.

Me wants tray-lur now plz. :(

^^ This.

Shadow-Guardian

09-07-2009, 04:06 PM

*daydreams of picking apart trailer in HD, drools*

Mr. Earle

09-07-2009, 06:31 PM

Any idea when the trailer is coming out?

John Locke

09-07-2009, 07:47 PM

Sometime between now and May 7, 2010.

darkslayer101

09-07-2009, 08:15 PM

Any idea when the trailer is coming out?

Iron man 1 teaser came out september 10, 2007....

hopefully around next week or two....

StylishHokie21

09-07-2009, 09:33 PM

Has there been any word on a trailer yet?

UnionJack

09-07-2009, 09:44 PM

Getting tired of waiting now, the more I wait the less I'm excited!

When the SDCC footage weak leaked I was major hyped, right now ... not so much.

John Locke

09-07-2009, 09:44 PM

Has there been any word on a trailer yet?
Official no but Favreau says he's working on it. Although that was like a month ago.

marvel_freshman

09-07-2009, 11:42 PM

I really miss the days when they were actually filming. I miss when Redd used to give us inside info in this very same thread. Of course she didn't give away too much to spoil, but it was still good stuff. Ahh...reminiscing.

Shadow-Guardian

09-08-2009, 07:46 AM

Yeah, good times.

kedrell

09-08-2009, 09:27 AM

Well Favs had been twittering stuff, both related and unrelated, everyday or every other day for a long time. Then the merger news hit and he didn't post a thing for more than a week. Now he seems to be back to posting again. I have no idea what it(the reason for the gap) means.

Mr. Earle

09-08-2009, 11:49 AM

Favs, if you re reading this:

GET THE **** OFF THE INTERNET AND FINISH THE GODDAMN MOVIE!

AnorexicBatman

09-08-2009, 11:58 AM

Robert Downey: Jon? Hey Jon!! Get off the internet dude!!
Favreau: (red eyed) Just five more minutes...

Aesop Rocks

09-08-2009, 12:31 PM

hehe, i see a joke somewhere in there~~

Shadow-Guardian

09-08-2009, 02:38 PM

*protesting with picket sign* TRAILER! TRAILER! TRAILER!

Immortalfire

09-08-2009, 02:58 PM

Sometime between now and May 7, 2010.

LoL

Dr Lee

09-08-2009, 03:12 PM

Ce sera sera.... whatever will be, will be.....and all that crap.

It'll be released when it's released... the way my RL has just ****ed with me today... nothing on here really matters atm.

Redd

09-09-2009, 12:42 AM

Anything new?

I haven't been here in awhile...

Shadow-Guardian

09-09-2009, 12:40 PM

Hey Redd. Nice to see you again. Nothing really new, no.

UnionJack

09-09-2009, 12:59 PM

Dull round here now ain't it :(

marvel_freshman

09-09-2009, 01:22 PM

Anything new?

I haven't been here in awhile...

HEY Redd, nice to hear from you again. I was just talking about you on the previous page. I was noticing your quote from Tony Stark in Iron Man 2. I was wondering, do you have different ones that you could put up to bring some type of excitement to this thread

Carlo Comicus

09-09-2009, 01:24 PM

I think this great silence mean something is coming.

King of Kings

09-09-2009, 03:38 PM

I think this great silence mean something is coming.

Really hope so.

Shadow-Guardian

09-09-2009, 03:54 PM

It seems likely we might get a trailer soon. Comic-Con has passed, and we got a trailer on the 10th last time.

Gamma Goliath

09-09-2009, 05:02 PM

i hope.

Spider-Vader

09-09-2009, 05:49 PM

*Twiddles thumbs*

Come on! Atleast give us a CLEAR War Machine image!

Gamma Goliath

09-09-2009, 07:51 PM

lol i know right, heck id be happy for a teaser image.

Spider-ManHero12

09-09-2009, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by marvel_freshman http://www.superherohype.com/drakon/skins/shhclassic/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=17439593#post17439593)
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4015/warmachinefinalv.jpg
Awesome manip!

Shadow-Guardian

09-09-2009, 10:51 PM

I'd be happy if a WM teaser pic was like this: http://www.iesb.net/images/stories/posters/ironman_teaser.jpg

Redd

09-10-2009, 01:20 AM

HEY Redd, nice to hear from you again. I was just talking about you on the previous page. I was noticing your quote from Tony Stark in Iron Man 2. I was wondering, do you have different ones that you could put up to bring some type of excitement to this thread

I don't if I have any cool quotes to put up on here. I mean, I still remember the dialogs from the actors, but it was all dialogs for development of the film.

Sam Rockwell did some funny dance moves in one part of the scene. . .

UnionJack

09-10-2009, 09:16 AM

I don't if I have any cool quotes to put up on here. I mean, I still remember the dialogs from the actors, but it was all dialogs for development of the film.

Sam Rockwell did some funny dance moves in one part of the scene. . .

Did you ever see Rhodey in his WM suit at all?!

UnionJack

09-10-2009, 09:32 AM

I'd be happy if a WM teaser pic was like this: http://www.iesb.net/images/stories/posters/ironman_teaser.jpg

How's this ....

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d161/nirvanarhodes/comic%20stuff/WR-teaser.jpg

marvel_freshman

09-10-2009, 09:46 AM

marvel_freshman

09-10-2009, 09:48 AM

awesome WM poster above BTW

Dr Lee

09-10-2009, 09:58 AM

How's this ....

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d161/nirvanarhodes/comic%20stuff/WR-teaser.jpg

you've given me an idea.....

FAN-ART ALERT!

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1316/imwm.th.jpg (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/imwm.jpg/)

Would something like this be a good idea for a poster?

King of Kings

09-10-2009, 10:00 AM

FAN-ART ALERT!

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1316/imwm.th.jpg (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/imwm.jpg/)

Would something like this be a good idea for a poster?

I was thinking about something like that myself, so I would say it's a good idea.:woot:

Shadow-Guardian

09-10-2009, 10:15 AM

How's this ....

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d161/nirvanarhodes/comic%20stuff/WR-teaser.jpg

AAAAHHH!! AWESOME! That's so cool! *daydreams that it's real*

UnionJack

09-10-2009, 10:26 AM

Glad you all like it.

Trying to sort my avatar out (just been given the right to have one) but they all look so small :( bad times

Shadow-Guardian

09-10-2009, 01:39 PM

Holy crap I just noticed I have 887 posts. Wow.

Spider-Vader

09-10-2009, 03:28 PM

888 now. :oldrazz:

Shadow-Guardian

09-10-2009, 05:38 PM

889 Now. :) Mwahahaha.

shewchew41

09-10-2009, 06:24 PM

What's up everyone. I've been lurking the boards here for about 3 years now, but now decide to post. :woot:

As like you all, i've been looking foward to Iron Man 2.

I was wondering if you all have seen any new WM pic, or the newer one where it shows that his helmet has black streaks comind down the front of the helmet? Or has that pic been debunked as a fake?

Redd

09-10-2009, 06:37 PM

Did you ever see Rhodey in his WM suit at all?!

I saw the war machine suit, but rhodey was not in the suit. His stand in was in the suit. I mean the thing is huge, not too easy for a person to maneuver in. But the suit looked freaking bad@$$.

UnionJack

09-10-2009, 06:44 PM

I saw the war machine suit, but rhodey was not in the suit. His stand in was in the suit. I mean the thing is huge, not too easy for a person to maneuver in. But the suit looked freaking bad@$$.

Was it made of the sort of flexi-plastic like the new Iron-Man suits?

I'd love to know how you managed to get on set for these, I'd pay good money and do bad things to be on set of a Marvel film, extra or not.

UnionJack

09-10-2009, 06:48 PM

shewchew41

09-10-2009, 06:50 PM

Never heard of that WM pic?!

You got it to post.

How do I post it? Upload it to photobucket?

shewchew41

09-10-2009, 06:59 PM

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/applecider41/WarMachine.jpg?t=1252627099

craigdbfan

09-10-2009, 07:04 PM

Definitely fake, cool nonetheless.

Dr Lee

09-10-2009, 07:04 PM

Fake.....

UnionJack

09-10-2009, 07:05 PM

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/applecider41/WarMachine.jpg?t=1252627099

niiiiiice ... totally fake but I'd love to see more of that guy

ultrasuperduckman

09-10-2009, 07:07 PM

Love the black stripes.

kedrell

09-10-2009, 07:08 PM

^Awesome!

UnionJack

09-10-2009, 07:14 PM

kind of off topic here guys, but how do u get bigger avatars mines so small :(

ultrasuperduckman

09-10-2009, 07:15 PM

More post over the course of a few months.

kedrell

09-10-2009, 07:21 PM

I think once you've got 3000 posts then you've got as much extra goodies as you'll ever have from this site.

shewchew41

09-10-2009, 07:24 PM

OK, so it is fake?

I'm looking for the thread from another forum I frequent where I got it from. It was there along with an article someone had posted.

UnionJack

09-10-2009, 07:29 PM

ah cheers guys :D

shewchew did they have anymore of them pics of that suit?

shewchew41

09-10-2009, 07:32 PM

Here's the text that went along with the picture...

"It hasn't been easy for actor Don Cheadle to step into the Iron Man 2 production, partly because of the controversy surrounding the fact that he would be replacing his friend, Terrence Howard, but also because of his age. Cheadle told CBR (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22609):

"You fantasize about it as a kid and think it would be a lot of fun. Then you’re 40 and you’re like, 'Nah.' But I saw the first Iron Man and I just really enjoyed it. I thought they did a great job. They were able to really combine the CGI and the pyrotechnics with some real character stuff going on, so I thought it was a very interesting mix."

Cheadle also said that he didn't actually get to work as much as it might seem:

"I didn’t expect the 'Rhodey CGI' character to work more days than me. I didn’t think my stuntman would work as many days as I did. But you know, really it’s a combination of your work. You’re in this motion capture suit, then stuntmen do some stuff, you get to do some stuff, then they don’t need any of you and they draw it themselves. So it’s really a very interesting process."

shewchew41

09-10-2009, 07:33 PM

ah cheers guys :D

shewchew did they have anymore of them pics of that suit?

No, sorry. That was taken from another forum. I wish I did though, but I'll keep my eye out. :woot:

Shadow-Guardian

09-10-2009, 07:48 PM

That's a very old manip from when IM1 came out. No one commented on it though.

Redd

09-10-2009, 09:05 PM

Was it made of the sort of flexi-plastic like the new Iron-Man suits?

I'd love to know how you managed to get on set for these, I'd pay good money and do bad things to be on set of a Marvel film, extra or not.

As soon as I heard that Iron Man 2 was filming in my area, I found out what casting agency they went to, and I signed up the next day.

My first job with the casting agency was Iron Man 2 and I have been working with this casting agency every now and then.

They are also doing the Green Hornet movie in my area too. I've been trying to get on that movie but right now I don't look "Old" enough. Oh well. Hopefully later on I get cast.

But also my casting agency is doing the Thor movie as well. I have been hearing little tid-bits here and there about the other movies.

Hopefully I'll be able to fill you guys in on those movies as well.