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JLR
05-04-2009, 10:19 PM
Please forgive me if this has been posted already. If so, please feel free to combine with the existing thread.

From Variety:

Hugh Jackman and Seed Productions partner John Palermo are ramping up several projects for the "Wolverine" star.

Fox and Seed are in development on a sequel to "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," which topped the domestic box office over the weekend.

The Seed partners have begun planning the sequel, which they are squarely focusing on the samurai storyline originated in the comic series, and whose Japanese locale was teased after the film's final credits. A writer has yet to be hired. Seed will produce.

Full Story: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118003176.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

Wiseman
05-04-2009, 10:21 PM
people who have been members for years and only have a couple hundred posts, are they studio plants?

Brad23
05-04-2009, 10:22 PM
http://www.anaitgames.com/wp-content/darth_vader_nooo1.jpg

JLR
05-04-2009, 10:22 PM
people who have been members for years and only have a couple hundred posts, are they studio plants?

Are you kidding me? I'm no plant. I lurk and only post when I feel like it...

danoyse
05-04-2009, 10:23 PM
people who have been members for years and only have a couple hundred posts, are they studio plants?

I don't see any need to accuse someone of being a studio plant just because they are posting a published article from Variety. :huh:

Wiseman
05-04-2009, 10:24 PM
Are you kidding me? I'm no plant. I lurk and only post when I feel like it...

5 years. Only a hundred and something posts and a new Wolverine movie is important enough for one of your rare posts? I don't know what or who you are but that does seem kinda weird

Chewy
05-04-2009, 10:25 PM
Yay! :dry:

I hope Silver Samurai gets laser eyes

Symbiotic
05-04-2009, 10:25 PM
Looking forward to it.

craigdbfan
05-04-2009, 10:25 PM
Great. :csad:

I wonder how more cuddly and friendly they are going to make Wolverine in this film.

JLR
05-04-2009, 10:25 PM
5 years. Only a hundred and something posts and a new Wolverine movie is important enough for one of your rare posts? I don't know what or who you are but that does seem kinda weird

Dude, you've got issues. I thought I was being helpful.

No wonder I stopped posting here to begin with...people like you.

danoyse
05-04-2009, 10:25 PM
5 years. Only a hundred and something posts and a new Wolverine movie is important enough for one of your rare posts? I don't know what or who you are but that does seem kinda weird

Enough. Stop making silly accusations.

Wiseman
05-04-2009, 10:26 PM
I don't see any need to accuse someone of being a studio plant just because they are posting a published article from Variety. :huh:

I didn't mean to, I'm sorry. I've just always wondered about that and I asked about it. I'm sorry, I won't post about that anymore

Chewy
05-04-2009, 10:26 PM
5 years. Only a hundred and something posts and a new Wolverine movie is important enough for one of your rare posts? I don't know what or who you are but that does seem kinda weird
If anything, lots of people are more likely to pop up or re-pop up around when these movies are released to discuss them

Deaths Head II
05-04-2009, 10:32 PM
Yep, I knew it was going to happen.

I wonder if this one will reach the 20s on Rottentomatoes...maybe the 10s...

danoyse
05-04-2009, 10:32 PM
Looking forward to it.

Me too. :up:

Rasputin911
05-04-2009, 10:44 PM
Yep, I knew it was going to happen.

I wonder if this one will reach the 20s on Rottentomatoes...maybe the 10s...

how many plot twists you think? maybe only 20 this time....but i'm sure there will be a dozen more unneeded mutants to be introduced and then discarded

Beanjuice
05-04-2009, 10:46 PM
http://www.anaitgames.com/wp-content/darth_vader_nooo1.jpg



lol, the only negative post

night0205
05-04-2009, 10:47 PM
lol...

Ok i must admit that the little wolverine screaming into the sky was almost as bad as Darth Vader, but wolverine has already grown up so we don't have to be afraid of that anymore for the sequal. I'm looking forward to it!

I love the face of the emperor in that picture!!! "It seems in your anger you have killed her."

[A]
05-04-2009, 10:54 PM
Great. :csad:

I wonder how more cuddly and friendly they are going to make Wolverine in this film.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3314/bub.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bub.jpg)

FaT_tONle
05-04-2009, 10:57 PM
Another butchery of the Ninja mythos is on the way... I think I am just going to stick with this new Ninja Assassins movie coming out.

night0205
05-04-2009, 10:57 PM
I actually hope they make him more violent because he lost his memory, make him more animal like...but that's high hopes for a fox pg-13 film.

Rasputin911
05-04-2009, 11:00 PM
^he'd have to kill that entire kindergarten to make up for the pussy-do-gooder he's been in the past films

I SEE SPIDEY
05-04-2009, 11:07 PM
;16871092']http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3314/bub.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bub.jpg)[A] FTW! :up:

Spidey 2007
05-04-2009, 11:12 PM
Sweet, cant wait :up:

Deaths Head II
05-04-2009, 11:12 PM
;16871092']http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3314/bub.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bub.jpg)

:funny:

bullets
05-04-2009, 11:14 PM
Good news :up: They are taking it in the right direction and hopefully no more silly plot devices are necessary.

Project862006
05-04-2009, 11:17 PM
he wasn't even bad ass in origins i felt he was more of an anti hero and rebel in x3

katie_girl09
05-04-2009, 11:21 PM
Ew. Another Wolverine movie? We haven't even gotten a proper team movie yet. :(

I SEE SPIDEY
05-04-2009, 11:24 PM
Ew. Another Wolverine movie? We haven't even gotten a proper team movie yet. :(Thankyou Katie! Geeze when are we going to get an X-Men film and not Wolverine and friends. Having a main character in a team movie is fine but every single X-film focuses way too much on Wolverine.

bullets
05-04-2009, 11:32 PM
They even call the cartoon Wolverine and the X-Men nowadays. I see no problem because Wolverine 2 and X-Men :First Class shouldn't be too far apart and then me hopes x:men 4

Prison Mike
05-04-2009, 11:54 PM
I want a Gambit spin off damnit!

I SEE SPIDEY
05-04-2009, 11:57 PM
^Now that would be an awesome idea...if Fox weren't incharge.

TheComicbookKid
05-05-2009, 12:07 AM
Well, they had to announce the sequel on the positive buzz of the opening weekend cause if it plummets like Watchmen, people will wonder why.

JP
05-05-2009, 12:17 AM
Oi, I really hope they announce First Class soon. I mean, at least that has a writer, and Stewart is apparently already on board.

craigdbfan
05-05-2009, 12:24 AM
;16871092']http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3314/bub.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bub.jpg)

:lmao:

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he had an entourage of little mutant children following him around. Now that would be quite the sequel.

Episode29
05-05-2009, 12:24 AM
Oh... goody. Bring on the green screens and CG claws!

Leenie
05-05-2009, 12:55 AM
I couldn't care less.

Robin91939
05-05-2009, 01:54 AM
Oh... goody. Bring on the green screens and CG claws!

What was with the CG claws? Were they used in the first three films? I don't recall.....if they were they were definitely done better than that....speaking of bad CGI, how hard is it to render a good jet flying through the air...wow, that was bad. The rest of the CG was good- but the jet and the claws were horrendous.

-R

night0205
05-05-2009, 02:07 AM
Trust me they CG'd Wolverine's claws many times in all the X-men movies.

Good news with the sequal...NOW DON'T SCREW IT UP!!!

I don't want this franchise turning into fantastic four.

JokerLedger
05-05-2009, 02:22 AM
God, I'm really freakin sick of Wolverine.
Atleast give him the costume and mask in the sequel.

Episode29
05-05-2009, 02:23 AM
God, I'm really freakin sick of Wolverine.
Atleast give him the costume and mask in the sequel.

...and personality.

Robin91939
05-05-2009, 02:27 AM
Trust me they CG'd Wolverine's claws many times in all the X-men movies.

Good news with the sequal...NOW DON'T SCREW IT UP!!!

I don't want this franchise turning into fantastic four.

That was my point...it was never blatant in the first three films. In this film, especially the scene in the bathroom- and the scene where he sliced out of Alkali Lake...it just looked terrible...like completely fake. In the first three films, the claws never once looked fake or unconvincing.

-R

Ghostvirus
05-05-2009, 02:31 AM
Great something for the fan children to complain about.:whatever:

night0205
05-05-2009, 02:34 AM
I wouldn't say the x-men trilogy never showed bad looking claws ever. The first x-men had a full cgi wolverine flying around the crown of the statue of liberty...and everything looked bad including the claws.

Episode29
05-05-2009, 02:35 AM
I wouldn't say the x-men trilogy never showed bad looking claws ever. The first x-men had a full cgi wolverine flying around the crown of the statue of liberty...and everything looked bad including the claws.

Yeah, that part was awful... Overall though, X1's Wolverine effects were pretty spot-on.

Episode29
05-05-2009, 02:36 AM
Great something for the fan children to complain about.:whatever:

Oh, well, la-di-da Mr. Fancy-pants!

Spidey 2007
05-05-2009, 02:37 AM
I wouldn't say the x-men trilogy never showed bad looking claws ever. The first x-men had a full cgi wolverine flying around the crown of the statue of liberty...and everything looked bad including the claws.

not to mention logans entire left hand went missing for a split second after he cut the shot gun, in the bar showdown.

louiebling$
05-05-2009, 02:39 AM
Oi, I really hope they announce First Class soon. I mean, at least that has a writer, and Stewart is apparently already on board.
Me too... i really looking forward to what they are gonna do with It... i want to FINALLY see a film where we see thwe Xmen shine through thier teamwork.

night0205
05-05-2009, 02:41 AM
Do you know what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning? 0_0

Episode29
05-05-2009, 02:42 AM
Do you know what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning? 0_0

Completely unrelated, but I really wish they had brought Toad back (Yeah, I know he was a last minute cut from X2's script). Ray Park was awesome in the role, and the character was a lot of fun.

Nell2ThaIzzay
05-05-2009, 02:44 AM
Not too stoked, I'd much prefer X-Men: First Class, and then leave the franchise be.

Quality over quantity, folks.

night0205
05-05-2009, 02:46 AM
Completely unrelated, but I really wish they had brought Toad back (Yeah, I know he was a last minute cut from X2's script). Ray Park was awesome in the role, and the character was a lot of fun.

I don't know what else they would have done with the character...he pretty much did all that toad does in X1.

Episode29
05-05-2009, 02:53 AM
I don't know what else they would have done with the character...he pretty much did all that toad does in X1.

Probably true. But the planned battle between him and Nightcrawler could have been really cool.

night0205
05-05-2009, 02:56 AM
I love Ray Park. The guys is awesome...Darth Maul, Toad...and he's snake eyes...probably one of the only things that will be good about GIJOE.

Spade
05-05-2009, 02:57 AM
I'm indifferent. This was touted as a quality movie way back when Comic-Con was going on, yet I found it to be anything but. The M-rated video game ended up being more enjoyable. I can't imagine a sequel impressing me any more than this did. Plus, I don't know a person in real life who wasn't somewhat confused as to why an origin movie was necessary in the first place. Maybe I'll eat my words when the turnout for Wolverine 2 is even bigger than it was for this, but I don't see people coming back in droves.

Episode29
05-05-2009, 03:00 AM
I love Ray Park. The guys is awesome...Darth Maul, Toad...and he's snake eyes...probably one of the only things that will be good about GIJOE.

Don't forget Ballistic: Ecks Vs Sever!!! Eh? Eh?....

....:csad:

night0205
05-05-2009, 03:06 AM
Don't forget Ballistic: Ecks Vs Sever!!! Eh? Eh?....

....:csad:

lol...I saw that movie. Ray Park totally beat this girl up...beating her all over the place...and then she snaps his neck? 0_o talk about unbelievable.

def28
05-05-2009, 03:50 AM
Wow, they green lit that one fast.

As long as they have a pissed off Wolverine, not throw in mutant cameos and lay off set ups for other character spinnoffs I think it could be good.

night0205
05-05-2009, 04:05 AM
Yeah, even though I liked Wolverine, this is basically exactly what happened with Fantastic Four. The week fantastic four was released, it got pretty good opening, and FF 2 was green light. If i remember correctly, I just hope Hugh Jackman can improve things for the sequal. Although, the sequal to FF was little better...

def28
05-05-2009, 06:22 AM
FF2 was a little better the the first one. Silver Surfer and Johnny Storm chase scene was cool.

I enjoyed certain scenes of Wolverine, the first 30 min I thought were great. The whole last half of the movie just lost it imo. And I thought the end was gonna be the best parts with the Gambit fight and Deadpool fight.

Maybe Jackman learned some lessons. I thought he said hes not producing another Wolverine or X flick.

CelticPredator
05-05-2009, 06:36 AM
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Sorry....I HAD to....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/CelticPredator/Modded.jpg

THE MR. TERRIFIC
05-05-2009, 07:45 AM
Well if they're going to make another and do the Samurai storyline then they should at least give us a better movie this time.:wolverine

Golgo-13
05-05-2009, 08:20 AM
Make him more aggressive in the sequel, and chalk it up to the memory loss, and i'm all for the sequel.

I guess we could possibly get Kelly Hu back as Deathstrike. :up: If they do use Deathstrike, i hope she isn't played by a different actress.

Gatchamanjp
05-05-2009, 08:39 AM
It is great to hear about Wolverine 2 being greenlit. I loved the film and will see it again tomorrow. I hope Logan also fights, The Silver Samurai, Mariko's Dad, and many Hand Ninja. If successful, maybe Wolverine 3 could be set in my fave place in Wolverine's past...Madripoor.

Juha
05-05-2009, 08:48 AM
If successful, maybe Wolverine 3 could be set in my fave place in Wolverine's past...Madripoor.

Enter Tiger Shark!!

Schlosser85
05-05-2009, 08:55 AM
So Liev Schreiber/Victor Creed probably wouldn't be in this?

[A]
05-05-2009, 08:55 AM
Sorry....I HAD to....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/CelticPredator/Modded.jpg:funny: :up:

stardust
05-05-2009, 08:56 AM
Let's hope they've learned something from all the critics they got for Wolvie 1. But before a sequel I want to see Jackman in a couple of other movies.

[A]
05-05-2009, 09:09 AM
They will learn nothing. And if they do, Rothman will shoot them with an adamantium bullet.

FaT_tONle
05-05-2009, 09:12 AM
I guess we could possibly get Kelly Hu back as Deathstrike. :up: If they do use Deathstrike, i hope she isn't played by a different actress.

Hot... but too old. They'll go with someone like Kreuk... or Grace Park... or an unknown. Hopefully whomever they get can at least speak Japanese fluenty when needed.

Angamb
05-05-2009, 10:07 AM
Hopefully they use Mystique and T'Challa in this sequel....


:whatever:

Neptune
05-05-2009, 10:19 AM
Another Wolverine film? YES THANK YOU FOX! We never got a Wolverine film because he wasn't the star in the first 3 X-men movies and it's not like he had a solo flick. THANK YOU FOX!!! YESSSSS!!!

Rac
05-05-2009, 10:52 AM
Please forgive me if this has been posted already. If so, please feel free to combine with the existing thread.

From Variety:

Hugh Jackman and Seed Productions partner John Palermo are ramping up several projects for the "Wolverine" star.

Fox and Seed are in development on a sequel to "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," which topped the domestic box office over the weekend.

The Seed partners have begun planning the sequel, which they are squarely focusing on the samurai storyline originated in the comic series, and whose Japanese locale was teased after the film's final credits. A writer has yet to be hired. Seed will produce.

Full Story: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118003176.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

I'll watch the workprint. :hehe:

AnorexicBatman
05-05-2009, 11:13 AM
:waa:

Quoting Nero of Romulus....
"Filmaking was a great art... but that was before Rothman"

C. Lee
05-05-2009, 11:19 AM
I'll be looking forward to a sequel.....I had fun watching this one.

Ratcrawler
05-05-2009, 11:52 AM
Another Wolverine film? YES THANK YOU FOX! We never got a Wolverine film because he wasn't the star in the first 3 X-men movies and it's not like he had a solo flick. THANK YOU FOX!!! YESSSSS!!!

^Ditto.

Screw this solo crap, just put him back in the X-Men already.

RonStoppablefan
05-05-2009, 11:53 AM
I knew it'd happen, Wolverine drew in a lot of numbers this weekend. I don't think they look online to see all the negative reviews, seems they only look at numbers..Meh I for one am looking forward to it. I always liked that storyline. Jackman said he wanted to.

Punisher RULES
05-05-2009, 12:02 PM
cool.

MrWayne
05-05-2009, 12:03 PM
Enter Tiger Shark!!

hey where was wolverine when he was patch? anyone remember that?? Ahhh ive got all the wolverine comics so ive followed all the timelines and locations... just havent cracked the old ones open in a while...

squeekness
05-05-2009, 12:05 PM
I wouldn't mind a sequel. Heck they could even have Gambit in it, he knew Yukio as well. They were both theives and pulled a job together or at least crossed paths. It would work for me. :p

Balthus Dire
05-05-2009, 12:06 PM
I wonder how the story will go this time? I'll bet Yuriko fakes her death to get Wolverine to become a Samurai, and then at the end even though Wolverine and Silver Samurai have been feuding the whole movie a big set of steel doors will open and it will be Wolverine vs THE WENDIGO!!!

squeekness
05-05-2009, 12:08 PM
Hey! Wendingo could be cool with the right CGI. :p

Gatchamanjp
05-05-2009, 12:11 PM
MrWayne, Wolverine's alias of Patch surfaced in...Madripoor, when he owned a Casablancaesque establishment, known as...The Princess Bar. The co-owner of the bar was, O'Donnell, and his partner was Tyger, Tyger a would be crime lord who stayed away from the drugs, and white slavery that her rival General Coy was heavilly into. Madripoor was run by it's Prince, who was also a fan of Actress Lindsay McCabe who was a partner in a detective agency run by ex-Spider-Woman Jessica Drew. I have been reading Essential Wolverine 1-3, and EW1 is almost entirely set in...Madripoor, and I think that is the best place Logan has been. Also Peter David was the writer, and he wrote Logan better than anyone, and that includes...Chris Claremont, one of my favorite writers.

squeekness
05-05-2009, 12:14 PM
MrWayne, Wolverine's alias of Patch surfaced in...Madripoor, when he owned a Casablancaesque establishment, known as...The Princess Bar. The co-owner of the bar was, O'Donnell, and his partner was Tyger, Tyger a would be crime lord who stayed away from the drugs, and white slavery that her rival General Coy was heavilly into. Madripoor was run by it's Prince, who was also a fan of Actress Lindsay McCabe who was a partner in a detective agency run by ex-Spider-Woman Jessica Drew. I have been reading Essential Wolverine 1-3, and EW1 is almost entirely set in...Madripoor, and I think that is the best place Logan has been. Also Peter David was the writer, and he wrote Logan better than anyone, and that includes...Chris Claremont, one of my favorite writers.Peter David IS really great. Can you imagine how great Wolverine 2 would be if they got him to write the script? It would be amazing. :D

Figs
05-05-2009, 12:15 PM
Make him more aggressive in the sequel, and chalk it up to the memory loss, and i'm all for the sequel.

I guess we could possibly get Kelly Hu back as Deathstrike. :up: If they do use Deathstrike, i hope she isn't played by a different actress.

I think it's possible, not like she's done much lately.

I just wonder how Fox is going to make this sequel. We all know they are going to add way more than is needed, including unncessary cameos because lets face it...the Japanese part of his history isn't that long unless you include the time where he goes back when he was already one of the X-men.

I guess it might work since they like 90-100 minute films but I really don't see only the Japanese story being good use for a whole film. Since he'll be over in that part of the world maybe they can have some scenes in Russia and we can finally get Omega Red on the big screen.

sniktsnakt
05-05-2009, 12:57 PM
First reaction: "OOOH JAPAN! SOME OF MY FAVORITE COMIC ARCS ARE IN JAPAN! YUKIO! MARIKO! SILVER SAMURAI! DEATHSTRIKE! The potentials, the possibilities . . . !"

Second reaction: "Wait. They already did the "killing the girlfriend" with Jean, and the "Murdered Girlfriend" with Silverfox. Now what are they going to do with Mariko? . . . .

Probably give her laser eyes."

Third reaction: "Well, the comfort is that they'd have to try really hard to do worse than the first solo movie . . . . "

Fourth reaction: "Still, the amnesia might make him a deeper character. And isn't that the most ironic thing I've ever heard."

:p

Fifth reaction: "And I just thought I was going to be free from following movies for a while. Oh well."

So . . . when does the countdown start? Any details on directing, script, etc yet?

AnorexicBatman
05-05-2009, 01:11 PM
I volunteer to leak the sequel.. wish me luck....

logan_weapon_x
05-05-2009, 01:12 PM
The good news is I'm sure they said he wouldn't be producing this one ;)

sniktsnakt
05-05-2009, 01:12 PM
I volunteer to leak the sequel.. wish me luck....

Well, the leak didn't seem to hurt the box office count.

sniktsnakt
05-05-2009, 01:13 PM
The good news is I'm sure they said he wouldn't be producing this one ;)

Who is this "he" who wouldn't be producing the sequel?

AnorexicBatman
05-05-2009, 01:15 PM
Hugh "I'm The Best At What I Do" Jackman]

And The Best At What He Does Is Play Wolverine

logan_weapon_x
05-05-2009, 01:16 PM
Who is this "he" who wouldn't be producing the sequel?

Hugh Jackman

sniktsnakt
05-05-2009, 01:17 PM
Holy snap! I just followed the link to the whole article. Jackman's already signed up for three other movies, not counting Wolverine.

So how long are we going to have to wait for this one?

:(

Canemacar
05-05-2009, 01:18 PM
Meh. I probably won't go see a Wolverine 2 unless it has Gambit in it again. That was my primary reason for even seeing the first one.

MrWayne
05-05-2009, 01:23 PM
MrWayne, Wolverine's alias of Patch surfaced in...Madripoor, when he owned a Casablancaesque establishment, known as...The Princess Bar. The co-owner of the bar was, O'Donnell, and his partner was Tyger, Tyger a would be crime lord who stayed away from the drugs, and white slavery that her rival General Coy was heavilly into. Madripoor was run by it's Prince, who was also a fan of Actress Lindsay McCabe who was a partner in a detective agency run by ex-Spider-Woman Jessica Drew. I have been reading Essential Wolverine 1-3, and EW1 is almost entirely set in...Madripoor, and I think that is the best place Logan has been. Also Peter David was the writer, and he wrote Logan better than anyone, and that includes...Chris Claremont, one of my favorite writers.

Ahhh, you just brought back all the memories.. thank you for that!! and yes "Peter David was the writer, and he wrote Logan better than anyone, and that includes...Chris Claremont, one of my favorite writers" couldnt agree more.. cant forget Larry Hama!!!!

MrWayne
05-05-2009, 01:25 PM
btw how old would Gambit be by X1?? wasnt he supposed to be Rogues love interest?? Ewwwwww...

AnorexicBatman
05-05-2009, 01:30 PM
40 years old....

Canemacar
05-05-2009, 01:38 PM
btw how old would Gambit be by X1?? wasnt he supposed to be Rogues love interest?? Ewwwwww...

Thankfully, that won't be happening in the movies. for once, he's free from that harpy.

Spider-Fan
05-05-2009, 01:39 PM
Let's not accept this movie happening as fact yet. FF3 and Silver Surfer were all go when FF2 was coming out, and look what happened there.

I think FOX is going to wait a while before deciding to officially do this. If this movie has heavy drops and doesn't outperform X2 or X3 (like I think it won't), I can see them putting this Wolverine sequel on the backburner and trying another film with the X-Team instead (like First Class). I think it'd be better that way anyway. This film was too generic and cookie cutter for me, and I can only see a sequel being the same (like FF2 was after FF).

FOX needs to put more effort into their next film. Not make a generic film. Wolverine I feel would have more legs if it looked like it was getting positive buzz, but it isn't getting much.

neemer5
05-05-2009, 01:55 PM
Let's not accept this movie happening as fact yet. FF3 and Silver Surfer were all go when FF2 was coming out, and look what happened there.

I think FOX is going to wait a while before deciding to officially do this. If this movie has heavy drops and doesn't outperform X2 or X3 (like I think it won't), I can see them putting this Wolverine sequel on the backburner and trying another film with the X-Team instead (like First Class). I think it'd be better that way anyway. This film was too generic and cookie cutter for me, and I can only see a sequel being the same (like FF2 was after FF).

FOX needs to put more effort into their next film. Not make a generic film. Wolverine I feel would have more legs if it looked like it was getting positive buzz, but it isn't getting much.

At this point, I think the Wolverine sub franchise is still salvageable. Hopefully they learned their lesson from the first film, and learned from the pair of turds that were Fantastic Four, that the sequel needs to be darned good. Cause with comic book movies, it seems to be a two-strike game.

Spider-Fan
05-05-2009, 01:59 PM
Difference here is FF outperformed expectations. If FOX expected Wolverine to exceed X2 or X3's totals, then they will be disappointed. I don't think the series is salvageable because FOX isn't learning. All their comic films are cookie cutter, generic films (sans X1 and X2...though DD's DC I would say is not generic, FOX made a generic version of DD). FOX continues to not allow the filmmakers to make a movie that is more than a genric comic film. After FF, we said they'll learn for FF2. After FF2, maybe they'll learn for Wolverine. Wolverine suffers from the same problems as these movies and X3/Elektra/DD theatrical. Do you really think they'll learn? I don't.

sniktsnakt
05-05-2009, 02:02 PM
I think the fact that they made the $$ will make this movie have a good chance of being made. And since they've bombed one, I figure chance alone will help them accidentally make WII a good movie.

And if that does well, I'd love to see him in Madripoor . . . . .

Spade
05-05-2009, 02:02 PM
They haven't learned any lessons in the past, and this film has made more than enough money for them to say "why mess with what doesn't seem broken."

Spider-Fan
05-05-2009, 02:05 PM
They haven't learned any lessons in the past, and this film has made more than enough money for them to say "why mess with what doesn't seem broken."

:up:

At least after SM3, Sony was smart enough to learn from the studio interference and give Raimi full control for SM4 (so Raimi says at least...we shall see in 2011). FOX just keeps doing the same thing, and I don't see how anyone can expect them to suddenly learn when there is a clear trend.

sniktsnakt
05-05-2009, 02:06 PM
Hey . . . I'm trying to at least start out with an optimistic attitude. Help me out a little here.

:p ;)

Project862006
05-05-2009, 02:09 PM
get Maggie Q for DeathStrike then

Spider-Fan
05-05-2009, 02:12 PM
Hey . . . I'm trying to at least start out with an optimistic attitude. Help me out a little here.

:p ;)

After seeing this movie, I really can't :csad:

They squandered good talent with this movie...I think FOX's intentions are clear :down

The Guard
05-05-2009, 02:14 PM
So, X-MEN: ORIGINS: WOLVERINE 2: WOLVERINE'S REVENGE?

It could work as well as anything, if it's done well, which WOLVERINE wasn't. We'll see. I'll take a good WOLVERINE 2 and X-MEN: FIRST CLASS movie, sure.

sniktsnakt
05-05-2009, 02:14 PM
Or lack of intentions, rather. They didn't intend to ruin Wolverine's solo film. I really hope not, anyway (though at this point I don't think I'd really be surprised).

Still, I'm hopeful. Usually superhero movies 1-2 for characters are good, 3-4 are completely awful . . . . is there any time when we've got to #5?

Spider-Fan
05-05-2009, 02:17 PM
Or lack of intentions, rather. They didn't intend to ruin Wolverine's solo film. I really hope not, anyway (though at this point I don't think I'd really be surprised).

Still, I'm hopeful. Usually superhero movies 1-2 for characters are good, 3-4 are completely awful . . . . is there any time when we've got to #5?

SM4 will change things with its awesomeness in 2011, mark it down!!! :up:

We may have not gotten to 5 yet...but given how the series continues to go down, I'd hate to see what a 5th film looks like :csad:

Chewy
05-05-2009, 02:17 PM
i can't wait for the pointless Sunfire cameo where he and Wolverine wrestle

Spider-ManHero12
05-05-2009, 02:17 PM
Cool! Can't wait to finally see the japanese story on film. :up:

AnorexicBatman
05-05-2009, 02:19 PM
How about X-Men Legends: Wolverine? :cwink:
Since it's not really an origin...

Chewy
05-05-2009, 02:20 PM
X-Men Origins: Wolverine Part 2: Rise of the Silver Samurai

Spider-Fan
05-05-2009, 02:22 PM
Or lack of intentions, rather. They didn't intend to ruin Wolverine's solo film. I really hope not, anyway (though at this point I don't think I'd really be surprised).

Still, I'm hopeful. Usually superhero movies 1-2 for characters are good, 3-4 are completely awful . . . . is there any time when we've got to #5?

I don't think they intend to ruin the characters. However, their intentions are clearly not making a film that elevates the quality of the franchise or genre. All they want to do is make by the numbers films to cash in on the market. When X1 and X2 were made, there wasn't as much of a comic movie market yet, so there was nothing to cash in on yet. It was still developing. Now the market is established, they're putting out whatever generic films they can to cash in.

That's their intention.

MrWayne
05-05-2009, 02:23 PM
maybe they will include SHIVA chasing wolverine down.. that would be cool..

sniktsnakt
05-05-2009, 02:24 PM
Money-grubbers . . . . What happened to the day of art and care of quality? It's not with Fox anymore, that's for sure.

:down

night0205
05-05-2009, 02:26 PM
2011 is going to be a big year for Marvel. I wonder when they plan to release Wolverine 2...probably 2012.

Spider-Fan
05-05-2009, 02:26 PM
Just for the record, I have NO problem with a studio wanting to make money. None at all. However, I don't like FOX's approach as their quest for money has sacrificed quality to a far greater extent than any other studio. Sure, Sony, WB, etc are guilty of it too, but FOX's films seem to suffer the most.

Chewy
05-05-2009, 02:27 PM
2011 is going to be a big year for Marvel. I wonder when they plan to release Wolverine 2...probably 2012.
2000, 2003, 2006, 2009

I'd say 2012 is a good bet.

night0205
05-05-2009, 02:28 PM
And take into fact that it's not necessarily Fox who's pushing to make this film...but Jackman and his production company. But Fox cares about money, so if they make money, they are on board. The downside is Fox has them run by their rules.

Spider-Fan
05-05-2009, 02:30 PM
2000, 2003, 2006, 2009

I'd say 2012 is a good bet.

Why is there no Spider-Man 4 in your sig :cmad:

But 2012 is probably a good bet IF it happens...though going up likely against BB3 that summer...not good for them. They'll get owned.

sniktsnakt
05-05-2009, 02:30 PM
2000, 2003, 2006, 2009

I'd say 2012 is a good bet.

Just in time for the end of the world. :o

Chewy
05-05-2009, 02:32 PM
Just in time for the end of the world. :o
This movie will be the end of the world
Why is there no Spider-Man 4 in your sig :cmad:
If Uncle Ben doesn't have another new killer this time around I may put it in :o

Spider-Fan
05-05-2009, 02:34 PM
This movie will be the end of the world

If Uncle Ben doesn't have another new killer this time around I may put it in :o

SM4 is going be awesome...I can feel it :up:

Now sig it! That's not a request, that's a demand! :cmad:

rogue trooper
05-05-2009, 02:35 PM
^Ditto.

Screw this solo crap, just put him back in the X-Men already.

We already have 3 X-Men films. It's time for Wolverine now.:wolverine Bring on the sequel, and, after the fan reaction of Origins, hopefully Fox will give Gavin Hood complete creative control on the sequel, just as Sony is giving Sam Raimi complete control on Spider-Man 4.

Chewy
05-05-2009, 02:36 PM
SM4 is going be awesome...I can feel it :up:

Now sig it! That's not a request, that's a demand! :cmad:
What color would I use? Red and blue are already taken :cmad:

Maybe after IM2 comes out and some space frees up I'll add SM4 :oldrazz:

Spider-Fan
05-05-2009, 02:38 PM
What color would I use? Red and blue are already taken :cmad:

Maybe after IM2 comes out and some space frees up I'll add SM4 :oldrazz:

It would be in the middle, so you could do Spider in red and Man 4 in blue...which is cool since IM2 is in red and closer to Spider and Cap is in blue and closer to Man 4 :up:

Or purple. Red + Blue = purple!

night0205
05-05-2009, 02:45 PM
I must admit the problems with Wolverine really had nothin to do with the director. Gavin Hood did an amazing job with what he had. An already written script, cast...all he had power over was the direction.

Timstuff
05-05-2009, 02:48 PM
It's never too soon to plan your second offense, I suppose.

rogue trooper
05-05-2009, 02:50 PM
Atleast give him the costume and mask in the sequel.


I've been thinking that maybe the costume could be incorporated into the sequel by somehow have it be derived of a samurai wardrobe.

night0205
05-05-2009, 02:55 PM
Dude he's not getting yellow spandex...especially in Japan.

Spider-Fan
05-05-2009, 02:58 PM
So, samurai wore yellow spandex :huh:

Deaths Head II
05-05-2009, 03:01 PM
His Samurai armor could be stylized like his costume somewhat, but I doubt they'll even bother to do that.

rogue trooper
05-05-2009, 03:01 PM
Dude he's not getting yellow spandex...especially in Japan.

Hey, hey,hey...hey,hey,hey!! Who said anything about yellow spandex?!:huh: How about what he wears in X-Force? Ofcourse they would take certain liberties to make it look more realistic.

night0205
05-05-2009, 03:04 PM
The only way he would wear a costume is if he was apart of a team. So, technically it could happen, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Schlosser85
05-05-2009, 03:07 PM
Just got back from my second viewing, which confirmed my earlier opinion that 99% of the good moments in Wolverine involved Liev Schreiber...who probably won't be in the next one in Japan...

rogue trooper
05-05-2009, 03:07 PM
night0205:....also, I wouldn't suggest he'd wear it throughout the whole film, just on a particular action scene.

Obi-Ron
05-05-2009, 03:09 PM
Money-grubbers . . . . What happened to the day of art and care of quality? It's not with Fox anymore, that's for sure.

:down

What day was that? I missed it.

night0205
05-05-2009, 03:12 PM
Liev should be in the Sequal PERIOD!

rogue trooper
05-05-2009, 03:15 PM
Liev should be in the Sequal PERIOD!


...he could be in it, but he should have no scenes with Logan. Logan would not meet Sabretooth until he first meets Rogue.

Deaths Head II
05-05-2009, 03:16 PM
Liev really can't be in it, unless they wipe Logan's memory a second time...

logan_weapon_x
05-05-2009, 03:16 PM
Liev really can't be in it, unless they wipe Logan's memory a second time...

Which could cause issues considering they're meant to have a long running fued.

sniktsnakt
05-05-2009, 03:21 PM
I don't care about continuity. Just make it good.

night0205
05-05-2009, 03:26 PM
I want to learn about Lady Deathstrike! I want more Sabretooth! So...who knows what will happen, because logan doesn't remember either of them in the movies.

logan_weapon_x
05-05-2009, 03:30 PM
I would quite like to see Omega Red but not necessarily in Japan!?

Retroman
05-05-2009, 03:45 PM
Which could cause issues considering they're meant to have a long running fued.
Just get them a chair on Oprah. Problem solved.:o

I don't mind a sequel as long they can come up with a great story and they can get a good director who can deal with studio politics. But I'd prefer they took their time and focus on making Magneto/First Class and X4 (one can dream) great movies before tackling this.
Make him more aggressive in the sequel, and chalk it up to the memory loss, and i'm all for the sequel.

I guess we could possibly get Kelly Hu back as Deathstrike. :up: If they do use Deathstrike, i hope she isn't played by a different actress.

That would be great and she's still signed for another movie too so no hassle there in terms of negotiations.

Dugath
05-05-2009, 03:58 PM
Anyone see that South Park episode involving the Raping of Indiana Jones?

Well.. as soon as I read "Wolverine 2" All I could picture was a giant FOX symbol raping X-Men

But you knew it would happen if Wolverine made any sort of money, and you knew it would even if it was a bad movie. X3 made lots of cash but everyone knows that was a horrible movie.

sigh.

Why can't Marvel Sue Fox for the right back on the grounds the are f'ing the hell out of it.

Golgo-13
05-05-2009, 04:06 PM
I'd also like to see Liev's Victor/Sabertooth in the sequel. Make him more feral and lengthen his hair- explain somewhere in the movie that the older Victor gets the more animal-like he becomes-thus tying him to how he eventually looks/acts in X1.

Nathan
05-05-2009, 04:08 PM
I say bring Singer back or I won't care. He's like one of the few people that can still pull off a decent movie, even with Fox's meddling.

Golgo-13
05-05-2009, 04:11 PM
Liev really can't be in it, unless they wipe Logan's memory a second time...

Damn, i never thought about that, although there's no indication that Wolverine had never come across Sabertooth in X1. He smells him in the snow, and his claws came out. He knew something was up. Xavier tells Logan "the man who attack you, is called Sabertooth". Logan acted like he had never heard the name before-but that could be chalked up to the fact that maybe he hadn't; as all this time Victor had just be known as 'Victor' to him and not Sabertooth.

Golgo-13
05-05-2009, 04:14 PM
get Maggie Q for DeathStrike then

Now that i'd go for. I still think Kelly Hu could still come back, but i wouldn't be mad at all if Maggie Q was her replacement.

Doctor Jones
05-05-2009, 04:46 PM
How much do you want to be Deathstrike will be in this film? Just another character shoveed in probably.

Balthus Dire
05-05-2009, 04:50 PM
How much do you want to be Deathstrike will be in this film? Just another character shoveed in probably.

Hopefully she'll be a main character and his love interest, because that would make the scene in X2 where Wolvie kills her and she seems to recognize him for a split second so much more tragic.

Deaths Head II
05-05-2009, 04:53 PM
How does Wolverine not recognize her though?

Please god, no more Adamantium Bullets...

Balthus Dire
05-05-2009, 04:53 PM
How does Wolverine not recognize her though?

Please god, no more Adamantium Bullets...


Oh yeah. Well ****.

Spoonz
05-05-2009, 05:23 PM
Enough Wolverine! Seriously!

Humphrey Bogart
05-05-2009, 05:29 PM
Not too stoked, I'd much prefer X-Men: First Class, and then leave the franchise be.

Quality over quantity, folks.

Sorry, that battle has already been lost.:csad:

Hound89
05-05-2009, 08:48 PM
Silver samurai, Gorgon, & Omega red are all i want for villains in the next one

rogue trooper
05-05-2009, 09:35 PM
...what about Rough House and Bloodscream?

Punisher RULES
05-05-2009, 09:35 PM
Any big deal X-Men villains would be just fine. Gun to my head though? I'd go with a Silver Samurai/Omega Red/cameos galore Wolverine flick.

squeekness
05-05-2009, 10:51 PM
Damn, i never thought about that, although there's no indication that Wolverine had never come across Sabertooth in X1. He smells him in the snow, and his claws came out. He knew something was up. Xavier tells Logan "the man who attack you, is called Sabertooth". Logan acted like he had never heard the name before-but that could be chalked up to the fact that maybe he hadn't; as all this time Victor had just be known as 'Victor' to him and not Sabertooth.He could have recognized the scent enough to know it meant trouble, but not the exact person it belonged to. Scent is a powerful link to memory. :)

...what about Rough House and Bloodscream?Bloodscream was cool. :p

chaseter
05-05-2009, 11:01 PM
Alright folks, lets wipe the frowns off of our faces to start getting excited for another let down in 3 years:up:

Project862006
05-05-2009, 11:18 PM
i don't know the story but will it be the last samurai with claws?

i like that movie but just wondering

Spider-Fan
05-06-2009, 01:05 PM
I think I'm going to need an adamantium bullet if this gets made :o

Figs
05-06-2009, 01:09 PM
i don't know the story but will it be the last samurai with claws?

i like that movie but just wondering

Sort of. The thing is though this won't have the quality that The Last Samurai had.

RonStoppablefan
05-06-2009, 08:47 PM
Hopefully she'll be a main character and his love interest, because that would make the scene in X2 where Wolvie kills her and she seems to recognize him for a split second so much more tragic.

Hey now that'd be nice. It'd explaine a lot, yah. Hmm If they bring back any of the other characters I don't know how they'd be able to. I mean Sabertooth I can see, that's the only one and well maybe DeadPool. For villains I hope they have Omega Red he was one of my favorites. I'm excited for this film and can't wait to hear more news on this.

CelticPredator
05-06-2009, 09:43 PM
I always thought that Deathstrike felt a shock, and relief to the fact that she was just killed...I mean, she didnt want to do it....and when she realized she was dying....she sorta looked at him like "Thanks....*sink*"

Bryan thinks that she was just some house wife Stryker just took....which sorta makes the whole character more tragic and disturbing.

topdog1
05-06-2009, 10:16 PM
Since this easily fulfilled and then exceeded all my expectations, I can't wait for more Wolverine solo films (Japan up next) and then X-Men First Class.

Spider-ManHero12
05-06-2009, 10:31 PM
Hopefully she'll be a main character and his love interest, because that would make the scene in X2 where Wolvie kills her and she seems to recognize him for a split second so much more tragic. Indeed, my god, that would work greatly.

Spider-Fan
05-06-2009, 10:41 PM
It wouldn't make sense. Why then doesn't she or he acknowledge they know each other during the fight then? This would occur post mindwipe, so Logan would remember. It makes no sense to include Yuriko and only complicates the timeline.

Less is often more :up:

Spade
05-06-2009, 10:50 PM
I think they stopped caring about "what makes sense" some time ago.

C. Lee
05-06-2009, 10:51 PM
It wouldn't make sense. Why then doesn't she or he acknowledge they know each other during the fight then? This would occur post mindwipe, so Logan would remember. It makes no sense to include Yuriko and only complicates the timeline.

Less is often more :up:

She was under the influence of Stryker's mind control formula....he could very easily have his mind wiped yet again....there are plenty of mutants out there with that kind of ability.

Project862006
05-06-2009, 10:52 PM
she wont acknowledge it because she is pretty much a zombie due to stryker's injection to her neck Logan i don't know lol

Spider-Fan
05-06-2009, 10:55 PM
She was under the influence of Stryker's mind control formula....he could very easily have his mind wiped yet again....there are plenty of mutants out there with that kind of ability.

It's stupid to have him undergo a second mindwipe. First time serves a purpose. Subsequent mindwipes are just more deus ex machina.

Do we really need Yuriko in a Wolverine movie anyway? There's enough material for a Japan film without her. She served her purpose in X2. I see no reason to include her. I think shoving cameos and characters into a story unneccessarily is only an excuse for poor writing and detracts from the main story. This was a problem for the Star Wars prequels, Wolverine, X3, etc.

Less is often more. Keep the character count down, improve the story, put only characters whom fit in the story in, and the sequel may actually turn out good. Unfortunately, I don't see this happening.

C. Lee
05-06-2009, 11:09 PM
I see no problem with multiple mind wipes.

bullets
05-06-2009, 11:10 PM
I think I'm going to need an adamantium bullet if this gets made :o



I'll shoot you in the memories.

bullets
05-06-2009, 11:11 PM
I see no problem with multiple mind wipes.


It would open the door to alot of possibilites . Maybe they could mindwipe Sabretooth.

Spider-Fan
05-06-2009, 11:13 PM
I see no problem with multiple mind wipes.

It seems like a cop out to me, and really unneccessary just to include a character they didn't need to include. Are his memories going to be wiped every movie, especially at conveniant moments to keep the "continuity" in tact? When you force characters and need to do things like this, you're only inviting more bad writing elsewhere in the script. I don't want to see more forced cameos or characters in future films. It never works well.

Project862006
05-06-2009, 11:15 PM
she is not like gambit or blob when it comes to logans past tho

C. Lee
05-06-2009, 11:22 PM
It seems like a cop out to me, and really unneccessary just to include a character they didn't need to include. Are his memories going to be wiped every movie, especially at conveniant moments to keep the "continuity" in tact? When you force characters and need to do things like this, you're only inviting more bad writing elsewhere in the script. I don't want to see more forced cameos or characters in future films. It never works well.

OR.....continued mind wipes really screws with him until he winds up in the backwoods of Canada cage fighting people for beer money.

Spider-Fan
05-06-2009, 11:27 PM
OR.....continued mind wipes really screws with him until he winds up in the backwoods of Canada cage fighting people for beer money.

But he doesn't remember having it wiped, so how do multiple ones screw with him? He'd only really acknowledge 1 anyway. I just don't see where having his memory erased again is a good idea. I think it has more potential drawbacks than pluses.

C. Lee
05-06-2009, 11:34 PM
But he doesn't remember having it wiped, so how do multiple ones screw with him? He'd only really acknowledge 1 anyway. I just don't see where having his memory erased again is a good idea. I think it has more potential drawbacks than pluses.

Well....in the previous movies, he kept getting flashes of memories that confused and upset him.....depending on how many times and how well each time it is wiped....all kinds of memory flashes over the years that get him into different situations.

Origins show him being from Canada....after years of fighting he has enough and goes back there....his mind is wiped...but years later shows back up in Canada in X1.....there is an unconscious connection there....he keeps being drawn back to Canada....and if you keep going back some place, some one will recognize you and say something like "Hey, you're that guy that tore up our town 5 years ago"....but if his mind has been wiped, he won't remember it....which screws with his mind.

Spider-Fan
05-06-2009, 11:37 PM
Well....in the previous movies, he kept getting flashes of memories that confused and upset him.....depending on how many times and how well each time it is wiped....all kinds of memory flashes over the years that get him into different situations.

Origins show him being from Canada....after years of fighting he has enough and goes back there....his mind is wiped...but years later shows back up in Canada in X1.....there is an unconscious connection there....he keeps being drawn back to Canada....and if you keep going back some place, some one will recognize you and say something like "Hey, you're that guy that tore up our town 5 years ago"....but if his mind has been wiped, he won't remember it....which screws with his mind.

But he already doesn't remember it. If he did have it removed more than once, he wouldn't know that. He doesn't even remember the first one. Yes it messes with his mind in a way, but so does just having it done once. What more is being added with a 2nd mind wipe? Nothing we already don't have.

I feel it has more dramatic impact if it is a one time occurrence. If you keep doing it, they lose impact and become plot devices.

C. Lee
05-06-2009, 11:41 PM
Not if something keeps drawing him back to a special place in Canada...he leaves a journal....and every now and then winds up back there, finds it, and sees that he has had his mind wiped in the past.

Deaths Head II
05-06-2009, 11:41 PM
While I don't want to have constant memory wipes, I do think giving Deathstrike a history would be a good thing. They did with Creed in the Origins, so it only feels right they do it with Deathstrike, Wolverine's other adversary in the comics that was reduced to a silent henchperson.

If they don't find a better explanation for his memory being wiped again then the goddamn adamantium bullet then they shouldn't even bother though.

Spider-Fan
05-06-2009, 11:44 PM
I think we have enough reason for him to be drawn subconsciously to Canada already. Trying to make another mindwipe work is just convoluted and unneccessary. I just don't see any bonuses to trying it. I think it would turn out more as a cliche in practice than it would a dramatic moment. I think if he loses something in Japan, and remembers it...that works better. We can't have Logan forget all his misery. His blank past should be a cause for misery, but we can't just keep making him a blank slate. Adds no additional drama.

bullets
05-06-2009, 11:50 PM
If he does get mind wiped i'd like to see the ending not feel rushed like it did in this one.

squeekness
05-07-2009, 08:25 AM
LOL, I'd love for the whole movie to not feel rushed like this one. :p

rogue trooper
05-07-2009, 10:24 AM
It would be cool to see Cyber in future films, if not in the next film.

Project862006
05-08-2009, 04:50 PM
picked up wolverine by miller&claremont good stuff but i have no idea who you would cast for Yukio lol

sniktsnakt
05-08-2009, 11:50 PM
How d'ya reckon they'd do all the Japanese? Have the whole movie in English captions?

Balthus Dire
05-09-2009, 12:41 AM
Hey maybe he can get mind wiped after every scene!! It can be a running gag.

Adrian89
05-09-2009, 02:43 PM
people who have been members for years and only have a couple hundred posts, are they studio plants?

5 years. Only a hundred and something posts and a new Wolverine movie is important enough for one of your rare posts? I don't know what or who you are but that does seem kinda weird
Are you one of those paranoic nerds? Why do you care anyway? Get a life instead, Wise@$$.:)

On Topic: No Wolverine 2 please! The first didn't sucked or anything, but it's enough. No need for a sequel.

squeekness
05-09-2009, 04:18 PM
Nuthin' wrong with sequels so long as they have good stories and not just made fer monies. :(

CelticPredator
05-09-2009, 04:32 PM
It's Fox....:hehe:

thegameq
05-11-2009, 04:00 PM
You know, I definitely don't want to see another wolverine film. But I have come to realize that if this is what it's going to take for Marvel to eventually get control of the X-franchise back, so be it.

Let Fox milk the franchise and it's characters for all their worth. Let them run this franchise into the ground with mediocre spin-offs (cash-ins) until it hurts their bottom line.

The best bet to see a real X-men movie(s) is for the current iteration to die a slow and expensive death. I believe Fox will try to milk four more movies out of the X-franchise--each one will be progressively worse than the last. Hugh will complain about the criticism and leave the franchise. Fox will either begin to lose money or garner such severe criticism for the films that they will sell the property back to Marvel or attempt a quick reboot in a last ditch effort to restablish the franchise and hold on to the property.

If they sell it back to Marvel, look for them to try and cut a distribution deal ala Paramount and Universal. Fox really doesn't have an uber franchise to call their own, so they will do their best to stay close to this franchise if it comes to that.

It's just so damn unfortunate that one of the greatest comicbooks of all is being treated so poorly when other comicbooks are getting great treatments.

Keep up the outstanding work Fox, your right on track.

sniktsnakt
05-12-2009, 01:46 PM
You know, I definitely don't want to see another wolverine film. But I have come to realize that if this is what it's going to take for Marvel to eventually get control of the X-franchise back, so be it.

Let Fox milk the franchise and it's characters for all their worth. Let them run this franchise into the ground with mediocre spin-offs (cash-ins) until it hurts their bottom line.

The best bet to see a real X-men movie(s) is for the current iteration to die a slow and expensive death. I believe Fox will try to milk four more movies out of the X-franchise--each one will be progressively worse than the last. Hugh will complain about the criticism and leave the franchise. Fox will either begin to lose money or garner such severe criticism for the films that they will sell the property back to Marvel or attempt a quick reboot in a last ditch effort to restablish the franchise and hold on to the property.

If they sell it back to Marvel, look for them to try and cut a distribution deal ala Paramount and Universal. Fox really doesn't have an uber franchise to call their own, so they will do their best to stay close to this franchise if it comes to that.

It's just so damn unfortunate that one of the greatest comicbooks of all is being treated so poorly when other comicbooks are getting great treatments.

Keep up the outstanding work Fox, your right on track.

I just hope it reboots before I'm, say, 85 or something. I want to be able to see the screen when I go to the midnight showing of Marvel's reboot.

<dreamy smile>

AVEITWITHJAMON
05-12-2009, 06:50 PM
I see no problem with multiple mind wipes.

Me neither.

It would open the door to alot of possibilites . Maybe they could mindwipe Sabretooth.

Sabretooth needs to get a mutant enhancer and mindwipe at some point, just to link him into X1.

OR.....continued mind wipes really screws with him until he winds up in the backwoods of Canada cage fighting people for beer money.

Exactly, you could even have Logan get his memory back in Wolvie 2, only to have it erased again at the end. At the end Stryker could capture Yuriko and Logan, mindwipe them both, but Logan manages to escape and Stryker freezes Yuriko, with plans for her to be weapon 12.

While I don't want to have constant memory wipes, I do think giving Deathstrike a history would be a good thing. They did with Creed in the Origins, so it only feels right they do it with Deathstrike, Wolverine's other adversary in the comics that was reduced to a silent henchperson.

If they don't find a better explanation for his memory being wiped again then the goddamn adamantium bullet then they shouldn't even bother though.


Agreed, Deathstryke definately needs some backstory now, they should do what I suggested above at the end of the movie, or something similar, and they should SCIENTIFICALLY erase his memory, along with Yuriko's.

COAL TIGER
05-13-2009, 12:30 AM
All the other Marvel characters that could be getting a movie instead? :whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever: :whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever:

Spade
05-13-2009, 01:04 AM
The "multiple mind wipe" idea is popcorn storytelling, unless the film's supposed to be a comedy. If they're going to make a sequel, they need to avoid rendering the plot pointless like that. This is their opportunity to get some things right. Repeating plot devices that made the first movie predictable is not the way to go.

Jacky
05-14-2009, 06:31 AM
Same here, I'll be looking forward to this production (if it's going to happen at all).

Changeling
05-14-2009, 06:18 PM
I really am looking forward to it too. So well have Wolvie 2, Deadpool, and XMen First Class? Thatll be great

AVEITWITHJAMON
05-14-2009, 07:14 PM
The "multiple mind wipe" idea is popcorn storytelling, unless the film's supposed to be a comedy. If they're going to make a sequel, they need to avoid rendering the plot pointless like that. This is their opportunity to get some things right. Repeating plot devices that made the first movie predictable is not the way to go.


Lets not forget Fox has now turned these movies into popcorn movies, the first 2 werent, they had depth, development and story to them, but the last 2 have been pure popcorn, and I dont see Fox wanting anything else from Wolverine 2. I also dont see a problem with at least one more mindwipe in these movies, if anything, it'll show how ****ed up Wolverine is as a person.

thegameq
05-15-2009, 10:48 AM
I just hope it reboots before I'm, say, 85 or something. I want to be able to see the screen when I go to the midnight showing of Marvel's reboot.

<dreamy smile>

I feel you. I'd really like to see the X-men given the big sfx extravaganza, fantasy-scifi, comicbook movie treatment before I die. X-men is so much more than the overly conservative approach we got.

Project862006
05-15-2009, 02:10 PM
what we got was substance over style in first 2 cant complain but i can understand your points

Red Mask
05-17-2009, 03:28 AM
Hopefully she'll be a main character and his love interest, because that would make the scene in X2 where Wolvie kills her and she seems to recognize him for a split second so much more tragic.

Or maybe they can hint that Logan's her father in the next film. If they have enough back story of Japan, they can bring back Kelly Hu to play Yuriko's own mother.

Red Mask
05-17-2009, 03:31 AM
Cool! Can't wait to finally see the japanese story on film. :up:

Me too. Maybe they can even introduce the ancestor of Professor Xavier (to bring back Patrick Stewart) and Nathaniel Essex/Mr. Sinister. I'm thinking Damien Lewis could play a good Nathaniel Essex. And it would be ironic if Xavier's ancestor was the one who got Logan into the smoking habit.

PSINGRAPHD
05-17-2009, 03:43 AM
I feel you. I'd really like to see the X-men given the big sfx extravaganza, fantasy-scifi, comicbook movie treatment before I die. X-men is so much more than the overly conservative approach we got.

Me too!!!!!!! I would LOVE to see what J.J. Abrams', Chris Nolan's, or Peter Jackson's vision would be! They could really do these charcters and their stories justice! Any one of them! As far as I'm concerned, the X-Men are one of(if not THEE{<sp, I know} for me) the best fictional casts ever created!

Golgo-13
05-17-2009, 05:42 PM
How about a Wolverine sequel that takes place AFTER X3?

I was looking at the youtube vid of the game of the scene in the future where Wolverine escapes from the shackles is badass. It looks like a few hundred years in the future. It would be an interesting direction to take the franchise. It would alleviate further continuity problems that this first one created for the other 3 X Men movies..and maybe somehow, they could incorporate the time traveling mutant Cable into it, somewhere....

X-Maniac
05-17-2009, 06:44 PM
I say no to another mindwipe. It's been done once, the audience and the critics will hate it. It will seem tired, lame and unoriginal. Everyone will think the writing really has gone down the crapper if they just do another mindwipe in the next movie. Sorry but this talk has to stop folks, it's a terrible idea!

That means he can't meet people he later doesn't remember - Sabretooth and Deathstrike. So just don't use those characters. Simple.

There are tons of other characters. Silver Samurai. Omega Red. The Hand. And so on.

Please, please, please. No more memory loss stuff.

chaseter
05-17-2009, 07:03 PM
I agree with X!!!

Spider-Vader
05-17-2009, 07:47 PM
Is this movie going to be produced by Marvel Studios like Deadpool & Magneto supposedly are. It'd be the Wolverine movie we deserve.

Project862006
05-17-2009, 08:09 PM
Me too!!!!!!! I would LOVE to see what J.J. Abrams', Chris Nolan's, or Peter Jackson's vision would be! They could really do these charcters and their stories justice! Any one of them! As far as I'm concerned, the X-Men are one of(if not THEE{<sp, I know} for me) the best fictional casts ever created!


sorry but Nolan's x men would be just like singer's with a very realistic approach

PSINGRAPHD
05-17-2009, 09:50 PM
sorry but Nolan's x men would be just like singer's with a very realistic approach

Yes, but I believe Nolan's vision would be far more epic in scope than Singer's. He would also have a lot more free reign than Bryan did back in the day, now that the X-Men are a proven success. You're right though, it's almost assured that Abrams and Jackson would take a much more science-fantasy type of approach, whereas I'm sure Nolan would try to keep it grounded in actual science-fiction. It would kind of be a philosophical versus metaphorical take, with each commenting on human nature and the society we live in, just from different perspectives. All of these guys would inject complex cerebral elements, like Singer, only they would take it to a whole new level.

Superhero 101
05-17-2009, 11:49 PM
I think it would be cool to see Wolverine go up against Omega Red Silver Samurai and the Hand

Golgo-13
05-18-2009, 06:13 AM
Give Omega Red the tendrils like they used as the whip weapon in the Underworld series.

AVEITWITHJAMON
05-18-2009, 07:50 AM
^Omega Red would get a big yes from me, been dying to see him in the movies for quite some time. While I liked Magneto it was nice to get some other bad guys in XMO, hopefully they keep that trend going for Wolverine 2.

thegameq
05-18-2009, 08:35 AM
Yes, but I believe Nolan's vision would be far more epic in scope than Singer's. He would also have a lot more free reign than Bryan did back in the day, now that the X-Men are a proven success. You're right though, it's almost assured that Abrams and Jackson would take a much more science-fantasy type of approach, whereas I'm sure Nolan would try to keep it grounded in actual science-fiction. It would kind of be a philosophical versus metaphorical take, with each commenting on human nature and the society we live in, just from different perspectives. All of these guys would inject complex cerebral elements, like Singer, only they would take it to a whole new level.

A Dark Phoenix Saga directed by Peter Jackson...........damn, just think how stunning it would be....just the visuals alone.....wow, just wow...

returntovoid
05-18-2009, 08:54 AM
A Dark Phoenix Saga directed by Peter Jackson...........damn, just think how stunning it would be....just the visuals alone.....wow, just wow...

Agreed, Peter Jackson would make a great X-Men film, IMO.

X-23™
05-18-2009, 11:05 AM
A sequel.... really? :(

Golgo-13
05-18-2009, 11:09 AM
I can't believe Jackman said in an interview that he himself thought that Wolverine had gotten soft by X3, and that he wanted to take the character back to how he was in X1. :whatever:

dark_b
05-18-2009, 11:28 AM
I can't believe Jackman said in an interview that he himself thought that Wolverine had gotten soft by X3, and that he wanted to take the character back to how he was in X1. :whatever:i actually remember an interview where he said that he got a little soft in x3 and that he is more rough in this one. more then in all movies.

a 100% lie from him. i understand that he makes a movie like that because of the paycheck. but that he becomes like FOX and lies to promote hes movie?

pathetic :o

Golgo-13
05-18-2009, 12:52 PM
I actually saw the interview i'm referring to yesterday on youtube. Ater hearing him say that, i wonder if that's what he was actually trying to do (make Wolverine more tough) but Fox, and post-editing cut and edited to where he doesn't come off so aggressive..? It's a long shot call i know, but i've heard alot of actors say that when they shoot a movie and then see the final product, the final cut can be vastly different from how they thought it would be. Jackman claims that that's the reason why he wanted to be a producer on XOW, so he could 'make sure' Wolverine get's back to the badass he was in X1 and X2...if this is the end results of Jackman producing..i say he should stick to acting.

Let's not forget that he also lied along with Fox about the leaked print saying it's not the same movie, so.....

icelemt38
05-18-2009, 02:07 PM
Not quite actually, he never said the movie was different, he just used the "Fararri without a paint job" reference. And that is true in that the SFX weren't completed, he never ever said that the final movie was longer or anything like that.

TheVelvetOnion
05-22-2009, 10:58 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/LegolasAzazel/Wolverine2Poster.png

AnorexicBatman
05-22-2009, 11:10 AM
Wierd Al Yaknovic song:

Why are you such a fussy little man?
Don't want no Captain Kirk! Do wan't no Bat man?
Ok Fine just go watch some WOLVERINE IN JAPAN
But Shut it! Just shut it!!

Golgo-13
05-31-2009, 02:50 PM
Not quite actually, he never said the movie was different, he just used the "Fararri without a paint job" reference. And that is true in that the SFX weren't completed, he never ever said that the final movie was longer or anything like that.
He did lie. He/they claimed there were other scenes which would mean a longer movie unless somethings from the work print were taken out. They lied to save face.

Celestial
05-31-2009, 02:55 PM
The comments about the extra scenes came from Tom Rothman and possibly John Palermo, not Hugh.

danoyse
05-31-2009, 03:39 PM
And while they never should have stated the movie was missing 10 minutes when it didn't...I do think it's a little ironic that people who had no problem watching a stolen version of a film need to cry about things being unfair. :whatever:

katie_girl09
06-03-2009, 01:03 PM
Cool.
But if Gambit (or some other mutant that I care about) isn't in it, I'm not going to see it in theatres. I'm sick of Wolverine.

Andreth
06-03-2009, 01:37 PM
same here, I'm not gonna bother to watch it unless Gambit is in the movie.
I'm starting to really hate wolvie.

Project862006
06-03-2009, 04:19 PM
this is the film singer should take a go at atleast it would be darker lol

danoyse
06-03-2009, 07:14 PM
According to an interview in Entertainment Weekly, Taylor Kitsch is signed on for 2 more Wolverine movies. I hope he's back in a sequel too.

[A]
06-03-2009, 07:20 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/LegolasAzazel/Wolverine2Poster.pngI like this one :oldrazz: First Rays of the New Rising Claw

maninthechair
06-05-2009, 05:19 PM
people who have been members for years and only have a couple hundred posts, are they studio plants?


LOL I wish I was getting paid to read the internet

Dog Logan
06-09-2009, 05:34 PM
I'm hoping for Wolverine 2 we get to see him up against someone like Omega Red. What I'd really want to see is Wolverine versus the Hulk but the chances of that happening are very slim.

Spider-ManHero12
06-09-2009, 09:06 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/LegolasAzazel/Wolverine2Poster.png Wow, really cool! Nice job. :up:

Dog Logan
06-09-2009, 09:17 PM
From what I've heard a Wolverine in Japan story wouldn't be able to last an entire movie.

topdog1
06-21-2009, 09:52 PM
GREAT poster TheVelvetOnion!

Wolverine 2 = Japan

Wolverine 3 = Old Man Logan
Hugh's age will work in his favor and I absolutely have loved that story.

Image removed - please do not hotlink.

CyclopsSummers
06-26-2009, 02:09 PM
Wolverine movie su**cks a lot no necessary Wolverine 2

VenomVsSpidey
06-26-2009, 04:36 PM
Wolverine movie su**cks a lot no necessary Wolverine 2


hmm..opinion.

CelticPredator
06-26-2009, 04:37 PM
Indeed.

Fresh Prince
07-17-2009, 12:37 PM
Jeez they making a sequel to this? Why!

FaT_tONle
07-17-2009, 12:42 PM
I don't think it will happen personally. I think they will try to focus on other spinoffs and Jackman will move on.

Fresh Prince
07-17-2009, 12:57 PM
I got a question is the X-Men First Class a reboot or prequel? And when is it suppose to come out?

FaT_tONle
07-17-2009, 03:29 PM
Who knows... most likely a prequel. Release date is anyone's guess.

Fresh Prince
07-17-2009, 05:34 PM
Okay a prequel good i do not want a remakeu ntil marvel gets the rights back.

danoyse
07-18-2009, 07:03 PM
I can still see a sequel happening with this film. But I do hope they go forward with either First Class or one of the other spinoffs and focus on some of the other characters for awhile before we see a Wolverine sequel.

Hugh's doing a play on Broadway this fall (which narrows101 and I both have tickets for :woot: ), and I believe he's doing another film right after that, so it will be awhile before he plays Wolverine again. It sounds like there's plenty of time to work on the other films.

dennisv
07-22-2009, 12:47 AM
What's everyone's thought about a live action Wolverine television series instead, say like 12 episodes? The first season could be based off only from the book, Origin. If does well, the 2nd season will be all the wars and **** he had gone through pre-Weapon X and the final episode of season 2 would be when he goes into Weapon X. Leaves us hanging for season 3. :cwink: