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Chewy
05-06-2009, 10:11 PM
So says BoxOfficeMojo

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=changes&p=.htm

FlawlessVictory
05-06-2009, 10:12 PM
How reliable is this?

Folks, this is step 1 in another DC superhero live action film not named Batman or Superman that will never see the light of day.

Chewy
05-06-2009, 10:13 PM
I think they only post release date changes that they can get confirmed by the studio, so... reliable

Webhead2006
05-06-2009, 10:14 PM
interesting though its far to early to judge the film being released on time or later. Since production hasnt started up yet. And if filming does start any time between sept-nov like starting date is i dont see why it wouldnt be ready for xmas season of next yr. Most films first unit shooting is 4-6months, and then the 5-6 months for post/reshoots and everything else.

Blackman
05-06-2009, 10:14 PM
...somehow I was expecting this. Since they starting filming so late i expected it.

FlawlessVictory
05-06-2009, 10:15 PM
I think they only post release date changes that they can get confirmed by the studio, so... reliable

Interesting, thanks for posting. Honestly, if this was any other movie I wouldn't think twice but again, a DC live action superhero film not named Batman or Superman. This just makes me begin to fear the worst.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-06-2009, 10:16 PM
Any comformation from another place?

FlawlessVictory
05-06-2009, 10:17 PM
I really liked that December release date too. It was a nice safe date for a character as new as GL. Now GL will have to fight the summer with Thor and Captain America. And doesn't Spider-Man 4 come out in 2011 also?

I SEE SPIDEY
05-06-2009, 10:18 PM
If this is true.

Oh WB, what will you do next?

Octoberist
05-06-2009, 10:18 PM
what will they do next? Finally cast Jack Black as Hal!

FlawlessVictory
05-06-2009, 10:19 PM
If this is true.

Oh WB, what will you do next?

Release a statement that says: "You actually thought we really going to make a live action GL movie?!!? Fooled you!!!"

Chewy
05-06-2009, 10:19 PM
Interesting, thanks for posting. Honestly, if this was any other movie I wouldn't think twice but again, a DC live action superhero film not named Batman or Superman. This just makes me begin to fear the worst.
Yeah, and it's not like it's just a random GL date change. Three new release dates for 2010 and 3 new ones for 2011.... they probably got a new schedule from WB.

I don't think this means the movie won't be made, I think it means that WB is giving Campbell more breathing room.

FlawlessVictory
05-06-2009, 10:21 PM
Yeah, and it's not like it's just a random GL date change. Three new release dates for 2010 and 3 new ones for 2011.... they probably got a new schedule from WB.

I don't think this means the movie won't be made, I think it means that WB is giving Campbell more breathing room.

I hope you are right. But damn, this means we have to wait even longer to find out who will be playing GL. :csad:

Webhead2006
05-06-2009, 10:23 PM
Yea i say dec is alot safer spot then summer 2011 with all the superhero films coming out then. and really who knows if production start up date could move up earlier from nov. And really nov 09 start and a dec 2010 release date isnt that bad. Like i pointed out 4-6months of production nov-april for shot, and then april-nov for post/reshoots and promotion and release in dec.

protocida
05-06-2009, 10:23 PM
From December 17, 2010 to June 6, 2011? :csad:

Chewy
05-06-2009, 10:24 PM
I hope you are right. But damn, this means we have to wait even longer to find out who will be playing GL. :csad:
Maybe not. They said filming was delayed until to November a little while ago... this delay could have planned for a while now, and we're just now hearing about it.

Still, I don't think this new date is a great one.

Chewy
05-06-2009, 10:26 PM
From December 17, 2010 to June 6, 2011? :csad:
Uh, it says June 17th

Octoberist
05-06-2009, 10:26 PM
its not a big deal because I knew this was going to happen.

I felt that they were testing the waters with their 2011 release date and were waiting for a response/dates from other studios. Once the dust settled, they moved the release date to 2011. It was bound to happen. Heck it happened to Star Trek. It was suppose to come out in 2008 and got pushed back.

Besides, it'll end the 2010 Battle of the Greens: Green Lantern vs Green Hornet.

FlawlessVictory
05-06-2009, 10:27 PM
Still, I don't think this new date is a great one.

Not at all. Spider-Man, Captain America, Thor and GL all in one summer. Yikes.

protocida
05-06-2009, 10:27 PM
Uh, it says June 17th
OH, MAN! :csad: :csad:

Octoberist
05-06-2009, 10:28 PM
oh crap, never thought about those other movies.

Then again, we did get Iron Man, Dark Knight, Hell Boy, Wanted, and Incredible Hulk in 2008 for comic book movie surpreme.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-06-2009, 10:28 PM
Release a statement that says: "You actually thought we really going to make a live action GL movie?!!? Fooled you!!!"I half expect that.

And aren't there like 500 f**king comicbook movies scheduled for 2011? Sounds like a BAD MOVE TO ME!

Octoberist
05-06-2009, 10:29 PM
to be honest, i can't see Thor being THAT big anyway. haha.

Chewy
05-06-2009, 10:29 PM
Yeah, but all of those comic book movies are almost a month apart from each other. Except SM4/Thor

protocida
05-06-2009, 10:29 PM
Green Lantern will face Spider-Man 4, Thor and Captain America: The First Avenger.

I'm worried.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-06-2009, 10:30 PM
to be honest, i can't see Thor being THAT big anyway. haha.I see Thor flopping.

Webhead2006
05-06-2009, 10:31 PM
well hopefully we will get an official word on if the date has indeed moved. Plus who knows maybe if it is it could change again if filming goes smoothly and runs at a good pace.

Chewy
05-06-2009, 10:32 PM
Thor will be amazing :o

And all it takes is a great marketing campaign, which Paramount can definitely do. A year ago I would have thought Trek would flop, but that seems pretty unlikely at this point

Webhead2006
05-06-2009, 10:33 PM
yea if any film is taken seriously and with the right promotion it could do well.

Octoberist
05-06-2009, 10:34 PM
I just think Thor is a hard sell. It could be a great movie but its fanbase is loyal but small, Thor doesn't get enough attention in the Marvel universe (I could be wrong though), and it's not as accessable as Iron Man or even Green Lantern. At least with those, it's dealing with science fiction and tech.

Then again, Thor could be the next Conan, so I could be eating my own words!

Octoberist
05-06-2009, 10:35 PM
Thor will be amazing :o

And all it takes is a great marketing campaign, which Paramount can definitely do. A year ago I would have thought Trek would flop, but that seems pretty unlikely at this point

that's true. we'll see. they need to get the right guy. I really you need someone who looks like the character, more so than Spider-Man, Batman, Green Lantern, or Iron Man.

RachelDawes
05-06-2009, 10:49 PM
From December 17, 2010 to June 6, 2011? :csad:

Sigh. I was planning on consoling myself with the lack of Superman news by following GL. Looks like many more months with little or nothing to talk about. :csad:

oh crap, never thought about those other movies.

Then again, we did get Iron Man, Dark Knight, Hell Boy, Wanted, and Incredible Hulk in 2008 for comic book movie surpreme.

Green Lantern will face Spider-Man 4, Thor and Captain America: The First Avenger.

I'm worried.

Same here. I think GL could easily become the TIH of 2011 and be completely overlooked.

FlawlessVictory
05-06-2009, 10:49 PM
Here is the 2011 release schedule as it stands now:

May (Details (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&date=2011-05-06&showweeks=4&p=.htm))
• Spider-Man 4 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=spiderman4.htm) (Sony (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=sony.htm)) - 5/6
• Thor (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=thor.htm) (Par. (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=paramount.htm)) - 5/20

June (Details (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&date=2011-06-03&showweeks=4&p=.htm))
• Kung Fu Panda Sequel (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=kungfupanda2.htm) (P/DW (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=pardw.htm)) - 6/3
• Green Lantern (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=greenlantern.htm) (WB (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=warnerbros.htm)) - 6/17
• Cars 2 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=cars2.htm) (BV (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=buenavista.htm)) - 6/24

July (Details (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&date=2011-07-01&showweeks=5&p=.htm))
• Transformers 3 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers3.htm) (P/DW (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=pardw.htm)) - 7/1
• Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (Part Two) (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=harrypotter72.htm) (WB (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=warnerbros.htm)) - 7/15
• The First Avenger: Captain America (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=captainamerica.htm) (Par. (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=paramount.htm)) - 7/22




http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&yr=2011&p=.htm

RachelDawes
05-06-2009, 10:51 PM
At least GL will have June to itself.

FlawlessVictory
05-06-2009, 10:53 PM
At least GL will have June to itself.

Not all of June, only half of it. And if Transformers 3 is coming out July 1st, then GL won't even have a full month to itself, TF3 will decimate it.

Octoberist
05-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Sigh. I was planning on consoling myself with the lack of Superman news by following GL. Looks like many more months with little or nothing to talk about. :csad:





Same here. I think GL could easily become the TIH of 2011 and be completely overlooked.

It's hard to say who will be the TIH of 2011 though, just because they moved the movie to 2011. Only we know that, and it doesn't matter to the public. That said, THor has the chance of being the TIH. who knows

Chris B
05-06-2009, 11:07 PM
Despite the annoyance of having to wait an extra six months, I don't think moving GL to the summer of 2011 is that bad of a move.

There will be a month of space between it and Thor and Captain America. And while Transformers 3 could pose some trouble, I suspect that it'll get pushed back to 2012 since Bay has said that we wants to take a year off after ROTF.

Dark Knight
05-06-2009, 11:08 PM
Interesting.....I hope this isn't accurate though.

It would have been good to have December all to it's self pretty much.

Maybe this means WB's and Campbel needed to do this and wait for Worthington to finish Clash?

JackIvyGB
05-06-2009, 11:12 PM
As far as I'm concerned...

Good side: This will only add to an EPIC summer at the theatre :woot:

Bad side: GL was going to come out 2 days before my B-Day :csad:

I will agree that I had a feeling this would happen. Big movies like this generally have a first teaser trailer ready around one year in advance. This film would have barely started filming.

FlawlessVictory
05-06-2009, 11:14 PM
Interesting.....I hope this isn't accurate though.

It would have been good to have December all to it's self pretty much.

Maybe this means WB's and Campbel needed to do this and wait for Worthington to finish Clash?

It did occur to me as well that perhaps the move is in part to secure an actor they would not have been able to get previously. If it's Worthington then :applaud

Excel
05-06-2009, 11:32 PM
NO!! It had such a sick release date! :down :down

mclay18
05-06-2009, 11:36 PM
I'm very disappointed with WB's decision (particularly since I was planning a HP7/GL double feature viewing), but perhaps it'll lead to a better movie when all is said and done with.

If the WB really wants to avoid competition, they could release it in the off-season (like March 2011) and promote it like hell. That way, it could be a nice lead-off to the summer season, make a lot of money and let Marvel compete with itself during the summer.

Dark Knight
05-06-2009, 11:38 PM
It did occur to me as well that perhaps the move is in part to secure an actor they would not have been able to get previously. If it's Worthington then :applaud



Yeah it's possible that could be the case. Worthington should be done filming by August, if not sooner if all goes smoothly with Clash. It shouldn't take 7 months to film Clash.

However, if they were to start filming in September or October, that should give WB's, Campbell and the crew plenty of time to get a Teaser out in March and then a full kick ass Trailer for the July and August summer films wouldn't it?

Dark Knight
05-06-2009, 11:42 PM
.If the WB really wants to avoid competition, they could release it in the off-season (like March 2011) and promote it like hell. That way, it could be a nice lead-off to the summer season, make a lot of money and let Marvel compete with itself during the summer.



^^Good idea!

But is this change of the GL release date an official one?

Dark Knight
05-06-2009, 11:44 PM
I just think Thor is a hard sell. It could be a great movie but its fanbase is loyal but small, Thor doesn't get enough attention in the Marvel universe (I could be wrong though), and it's not as accessable as Iron Man or even Green Lantern. At least with those, it's dealing with science fiction and tech.

Then again, Thor could be the next Conan, so I could be eating my own words!



I feel the same way. I think Thor will be hard sell unless they make it like an R rated Conan style of film....which they sure as heck won't.

Excel
05-06-2009, 11:47 PM
HELL NO to March. December was IDEAL for this movie! Mid June...?

Btw...Thor and CA arent gonna make their dates, watch. Soon theyll be pushed back again as well.

mclay18
05-06-2009, 11:51 PM
^^Good idea!

But is this change of the GL release date an official one?

It is official. BOM was the first site to announce the delay of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince from November 21, 2008 to July 17, 2009. We'll have confirmation from other sources tomorrow, most likely.

I was suspicious when GL was starting production in November 2009, it would barely give the visual effects houses enough time to work on it and get it finished for December the following year (provided shooting ended May-July 2010).

Chewy
05-06-2009, 11:53 PM
Btw...Thor and CA arent gonna make their dates, watch. Soon theyll be pushed back again as well.
Right, because Thor isn't in the exact same position/phase production-wise as Green Lantern.

Nirvana
05-07-2009, 12:08 AM
God dammit. :csad:

At least 2011 will be quite memorable with a ton of Superhero properties. Spider-Man 4, Thor, Green Lantern and Captain America. Awesome. :up:

Dark Knight
05-07-2009, 12:19 AM
HELL NO to March. December was IDEAL for this movie! Mid June...?

Btw...Thor and CA arent gonna make their dates, watch. Soon theyll be pushed back again as well.



I agree December was PERFECT for GL!

Dark Knight
05-07-2009, 12:23 AM
HELL NO to March. December was IDEAL for this movie! Mid June...?

Btw...Thor and CA arent gonna make their dates, watch. Soon theyll be pushed back again as well.




Well, if it is mid June at least more teens will be able to watch it since school is out.

Dark Knight
05-07-2009, 12:26 AM
It is official. BOM was the first site to announce the delay of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince from November 21, 2008 to July 17, 2009. We'll have confirmation from other sources tomorrow, most likely.

I was suspicious when GL was starting production in November 2009, it would barely give the visual effects houses enough time to work on it and get it finished for December the following year (provided shooting ended May-July 2010).





And the Wild Card in all of this is when will the next Bat film aim to be released?? Interesting....

Webhead2006
05-07-2009, 12:28 AM
i thought bay say tf3 isnt going to be 2011 but in 2012. But who knows with captain america/thor they are not evening shooting this yr both are starting early next yr. And as i said earlier if gl start is sept/nov still whos to say if filming can be done at a good pace and they have the right amount of time for post/promotion maybe the date will change again. But yea if its going to be june 2011 it should be ok since it will have itself as a cb movie in the month.

Chewy
05-07-2009, 12:29 AM
And the Wild Card in all of this is when will the next Bat film aim to be released?? Interesting....
Summer 2012. There isn't a chance in hell that WB is going to release it on a different weekend than TDK after that mid-July weekend gave them a billion dollars, and they already scheduled HP8 for that weekend in 2011. Plus, with Inception, I don't think there's any way Nolan could have it ready for 2011.

mclay18
05-07-2009, 12:45 AM
For BB3, I see WB scheduling it for either July 13 or July 20, 2012 (probably the latter because it's the same weekend).

But unlike HP6, Warners has plenty of legitimate reasons for GL's delay: shooting hasn't begun yet, plus add in enough post-production time to get the visual effects at their best after shooting's complete. With HP6, they saw the money rolling in for TDK and decided to push HP6 back to the same weekend this year because of the open weekend. WB's motive was money-driven because HP6 was close to being completed by the time they announced the move, but I can't really blame them since TDK made two blockbusters' worth of money with a single release.

But I am disappointed that I have to wait another year to get GL, amidst its numerous Marvel competition. IM-2 is gonna be lonely next year without another Marvel or rival DC film to help boost 2010's slate of movie releases.

Man of Tomorrow
05-07-2009, 12:45 AM
How reliable is this?

Folks, this is step 1 in another DC superhero live action film not named Batman or Superman that will never see the light of day.


It's another step towards Superman never seeing the light of day.

It's over for Superman now.

GL will be summer 2011.

And Batman III will be summer 2012.

There's NO way WB will produce both in the same year; they're too idiotic.


No Superman reboot.

Chewy
05-07-2009, 12:46 AM
But I am disappointed that I have to wait another year to get GL, amidst its numerous Marvel competition. IM-2 is gonna be lonely next year without another Marvel or rival DC film to help boost 2010's slate of movie releases.
Jonah Hex!

Octoberist
05-07-2009, 12:47 AM
there's no reason at this point that WB/DC would want to disable Green Lantern, Flawless Victory.

Justice League: Mortal was a movie that was being rushed into production before the writer's strike AND it contained a different Batman that p*ssed off Nolan. I don't blame him.

With Marvel on a hot streak (well, with THEIR movies not Fox), WB can't sit on it anymore. Green Lantern will happen, and it has made too much progress to quit now.

Man of Tomorrow
05-07-2009, 12:48 AM
Here is the 2011 release schedule as it stands now:

May (Details (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&date=2011-05-06&showweeks=4&p=.htm))
• Spider-Man 4 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=spiderman4.htm) (Sony (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=sony.htm)) - 5/6
• Thor (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=thor.htm) (Par. (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=paramount.htm)) - 5/20

June (Details (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&date=2011-06-03&showweeks=4&p=.htm))
• Kung Fu Panda Sequel (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=kungfupanda2.htm) (P/DW (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=pardw.htm)) - 6/3
• Green Lantern (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=greenlantern.htm) (WB (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=warnerbros.htm)) - 6/17
• Cars 2 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=cars2.htm) (BV (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=buenavista.htm)) - 6/24

July (Details (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&date=2011-07-01&showweeks=5&p=.htm))
• Transformers 3 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers3.htm) (P/DW (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=pardw.htm)) - 7/1
• Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (Part Two) (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=harrypotter72.htm) (WB (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=warnerbros.htm)) - 7/15
• The First Avenger: Captain America (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=captainamerica.htm) (Par. (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=paramount.htm)) - 7/22




http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&yr=2011&p=.htm



Cars 2 will screw GL up.

Cars has a HUGE following with kids and the first one had huge WOM with kids and toysales.


It could be akin to what PoTC2 did to SR.

mclay18
05-07-2009, 12:48 AM
Warners should've fast-tracked this movie instead of letting it go forward. It's still possible to shoot it this summer, but it ain't gonna happen. They should take their time with scripting and casting, but once that's finished they should go full steam ahead on the thing.

Man of Tomorrow
05-07-2009, 12:51 AM
Star Trek could have it's sequel in 2011 too.

It's in the planning stages now, and depends on Trek's boxoffice.

Chewy
05-07-2009, 12:52 AM
Cars was not even close to the phenomenon the first PotC movie was.

And I just realized this is the weekend, in 2005, that WB released Begins. I'm sure that went into the decision

mclay18
05-07-2009, 12:55 AM
Jonah Hex!

True, it's a DC film but it's technically not a superhero movie. And Warners is missing out on a double infusion of cash at the end of next year, where their original schedule was planned perfectly around the holiday season. It's going to feel awkward two years from now, and we'll get an onslaught of marketing for SM-4, Captain America, Thor and GL.

But on the plus side, it's still scheduled a month before the final HP movie comes out so it solves itself out nicely. Comic-book fans will be tired of Marvel superhero movies by the time SM-4 and Thor are out for a few weeks, and then a brand-new DC superhero film to pick up the slack.

mclay18
05-07-2009, 12:59 AM
And I just realized this is the weekend, in 2005, that WB released Begins. I'm sure that went into the decision

I totally forgot about that, but I see it now. Perhaps WB rescheduled GL for it to take the old Batman spot (since all the WB live-action Batman movies were released in June before TDK bucked the trend), and then have future Batman movies released in the prime July slot.

Showtime
05-07-2009, 01:18 AM
You won't be seeing all those Marvel characters in the same positions as they are now in 2011.

zeptron
05-07-2009, 01:21 AM
Here is the 2011 release schedule as it stands now:

May (Details (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&date=2011-05-06&showweeks=4&p=.htm))
Spider-Man 4 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=spiderman4.htm) (Sony (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=sony.htm)) - 5/6
Thor (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=thor.htm) (Par. (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=paramount.htm)) - 5/20

June (Details (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&date=2011-06-03&showweeks=4&p=.htm))
Kung Fu Panda Sequel (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=kungfupanda2.htm) (P/DW (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=pardw.htm)) - 6/3
Green Lantern (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=greenlantern.htm) (WB (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=warnerbros.htm)) - 6/17
Cars 2 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=cars2.htm) (BV (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=buenavista.htm)) - 6/24

July (Details (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&date=2011-07-01&showweeks=5&p=.htm))
Transformers 3 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers3.htm) (P/DW (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=pardw.htm)) - 7/1
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (Part Two) (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=harrypotter72.htm) (WB (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=warnerbros.htm)) - 7/15
The First Avenger: Captain America (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=captainamerica.htm) (Par. (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=paramount.htm)) - 7/22




http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&yr=2011&p=.htm


Transformers 3 is actually scheduled for 2012.

http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3947

I said I was taking off a year from Transformers. Paramount made a mistake in dating Transformers 3 - they asked me on the phone - I said yes to July 4 - but for 2012 - whoops! Not 2011!!! That would mean I would have to start prep in September. No way. My brain needs a break from fighting robots.

Michael

BatMatt
05-07-2009, 01:40 AM
probably a good move

chiefchirpa
05-07-2009, 01:41 AM
So what if Fox joins the 2011 party with their superhero movies licensed from Marvel?

craigdbfan
05-07-2009, 02:09 AM
More confirmation from other sites about Green Lantern's delay.

Collider (http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp/aid/11819/tcid/1)
Latino Review (http://www.latinoreview.com/news/green-lantern-won-t-be-lighting-up-your-x-mas-tree-moved-to-summer-2011-6783)

Frosty81
05-07-2009, 02:57 AM
I'm actually happy the movie was delayed. I'm not happy about a potential delay in a casting decision, mind you. It's just that when a film is delayed this early in production, it's usually for good reason. When movies are delayed late in production, however, it's usually for bad reasons (i.e., the movie sucks and the studio wants to re-edit.)

Martin Campbell has delivered, twice, in making one of the most iconic literature and film characters new and fresh in the eyes of the public, in ways that were compelling and exciting in their respective times. Now he has the chance to deliver, for the first time, the Green Lantern to the movie going audience.

For my own $.02, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Campbell and the WB are looking into going 3D on this and that being part of the delay.

Frosty81
05-07-2009, 02:57 AM
I'm actually happy the movie was delayed. I'm not happy about a potential delay in a casting decision, mind you. It's just that when a film is delayed this early in production, it's usually for good reason. When movies are delayed late in production, however, it's usually for bad reasons (i.e., the movie sucks and the studio wants to re-edit.)

Martin Campbell has delivered, twice, in making one of the most iconic literature and film characters new and fresh in the eyes of the public, in ways that were compelling and exciting in their respective times. Now he has the chance to deliver, for the first time, the Green Lantern to the movie going audience.

For my own $.02, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Campbell and the WB are looking into going 3D on this and that being part of the delay.

dark_b
05-07-2009, 04:41 AM
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WB grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

i knew it. it was to good to be true. they had to f... up. this was a chance to show other studios that a comicbook movie in december can work.

WB had to f... up

dark_b
05-07-2009, 05:35 AM
its not a big deal because I knew this was going to happen.

I felt that they were testing the waters with their 2011 release date and were waiting for a response/dates from other studios. Once the dust settled, they moved the release date to 2011. It was bound to happen. Heck it happened to Star Trek. It was suppose to come out in 2008 and got pushed back.

Besides, it'll end the 2010 Battle of the Greens: Green Lantern vs Green Hornet.the difference is that star trek was really meant to be realesed in 2008. they didnt change the realese date before filming. star trek was fnished for months now.

Lobo
05-07-2009, 06:00 AM
I don't mind the delay, more time to get the actors they want with no scheduling problems, and extra time to make the fx look the best they can. I really loved the December release date, though.

Katsuro
05-07-2009, 06:36 AM
Thor will be amazing :o

And all it takes is a great marketing campaign, which Paramount can definitely do. A year ago I would have thought Trek would flop, but that seems pretty unlikely at this point

I have a feeling the first step in a Thor marketing campaign will be a cameo in Iron Man 2. Something small like that could do wonders for it's marketing, and get people really excited.

As for GL being delayed, eh... it happens. Hopefully it's to reschedule so they can get an actor they previously couldn't. I dont like this Bradley Cooper business (unless it was some miscommunication and he's got a cameo as Guy Gardner, in which case they listened to the fans).

Keyser Soze
05-07-2009, 07:12 AM
Damn, this delay sucks. Just when it seemed like we were starting to get some buzz stirring. One step forward, two steps back with this film.

On the plus side, summer 2011 is gonna be freaking orgasmic for us comic geeks.

FlawlessVictory
05-07-2009, 09:14 AM
It's another step towards Superman never seeing the light of day.

It's over for Superman now.

GL will be summer 2011.

And Batman III will be summer 2012.

There's NO way WB will produce both in the same year; they're too idiotic.


No Superman reboot.

I have mentioned this a few times in the Superman forum, I don't think we are getting another Superman movie before 2014. I think WB will wait the 8 years like they did with Batman and then try a reboot.

there's no reason at this point that WB/DC would want to disable Green Lantern, Flawless Victory.

Justice League: Mortal was a movie that was being rushed into production before the writer's strike AND it contained a different Batman that p*ssed off Nolan. I don't blame him.

With Marvel on a hot streak (well, with THEIR movies not Fox), WB can't sit on it anymore. Green Lantern will happen, and it has made too much progress to quit now.

Yea, JL:M had disaster written all over it so I'm glad that never saw the light of day. This, OTOH, I'm really looking forward to. Hopefully all goes well with it.

The Sage
05-07-2009, 10:01 AM
Not really a bad decision considering they haven't cast anyone yet.

TheScarecrow
05-07-2009, 10:19 AM
People need to calm down and think about whether they want a quality movie or a rushed one 6 months earlier. The script is done for this movie...that's it.

They just got the Australian tax break, which tells me that they're only now just starting to scout for locations. It has no cast. The only people on board are a writer and a director. Given that the film will have a mountain load of special effects, there would be one year to pick locations, get a cast, get a crew, actually shot the thing, get the special effects done, get the editing done and market the damn thing - as well as the billions of things in between. It's not enough time and when it came to December 2010 you'd all be whinging about how WB ruined the movie by rushing it.

This is the right move, because otherwise WB wouldn't be doing it. It's 6 months...not a lifetime.

mclay18
05-07-2009, 10:40 AM
Given that the film will have a mountain load of special effects, there would be one year to pick locations, get a cast, get a crew, actually shot the thing, get the special effects done, get the editing done and market the damn thing - as well as the billions of things in between. It's not enough time and when it came to December 2010 you'd all be whinging about how WB ruined the movie by rushing it.


Actually, after principal photography is done, that's when the main editing is done. Once the rough cut is completed, that's when the finished visual effects shots start coming in. Sometimes, if the production starts late (like the first POTC flick), the visual effects people start immediately when filming starts, they won't have to rush in the shots during post-production.

dark_b
05-07-2009, 11:04 AM
People need to calm down and think about whether they want a quality movie or a rushed one 6 months earlier. The script is done for this movie...that's it.

They just got the Australian tax break, which tells me that they're only now just starting to scout for locations. It has no cast. The only people on board are a writer and a director. Given that the film will have a mountain load of special effects, there would be one year to pick locations, get a cast, get a crew, actually shot the thing, get the special effects done, get the editing done and market the damn thing - as well as the billions of things in between. It's not enough time and when it came to December 2010 you'd all be whinging about how WB ruined the movie by rushing it.

This is the right move, because otherwise WB wouldn't be doing it. It's 6 months...not a lifetime.so the movie would be rushed to make the deember realese date?
how? when?
are you even aware that its may 2009?

FlawlessVictory
05-07-2009, 11:10 AM
^Yea, how is it that before yesterday there was not one post that was of the nature of "OMG GL is gonna be rushed!!!!11! the december release date is no good" but now that we have this news we have people claiming that it's good because the movie would have been rushed. Where was the concern before? :huh:

This move, IMO, is a mistake. December was ideal, it was safe for a movie like this. WB is gambling big. And if this movie underperforms then kiss all other DC superhero live action films not named Batman goodbye.

Dev
05-07-2009, 11:38 AM
^I agree with you there Flawless. I don't like the idea of cramming so many superhero movies in one year. You think studios are frightened about the 2012 end of the world thing?

TheScarecrow
05-07-2009, 11:41 AM
so the movie would be rushed to make the deember realese date?
how? when?
are you even aware that its may 2009?

Are you aware that Batman movies, which take a hell of a lot less post-production work than Green Lantern will (most of the scenes are going to have to take place in an environment with some amount of CGI in it) take well over a year and a half to get from the camera starting up, to actually making it on the screen. Nolan started filming TDK in January and was very hard pressed getting it finished to actually make it by the release date (in late July the following year).

Not to mention what was several months of pre-production work BEFORE that, none of which has been done by the GL crew (oh wait, it hasn't got a lot of major players for its crew yet) and all of the work that needs to be done for the cast (oh wait...it doesn't have one of those yet). Then again - aren't all of the sets constructed? No. Don't look at films like Iron Man II for comparison. They don't need to build sets from scratch, they don't need to design every facet of the film (but note that Iron Man II release date is only about 6 months or so ahead of Green Lantern and is already filming - something which GL is nowhere near ready to do).

Making a movie takes a lot of time and, I'm sorry to say, GL is in the very early stages. It has a script...and that's pretty much it. Batman 3 isn't even coming until 2012 and it (according to rumours) has already had at least one draft of a script done for it. Not to mention that GL starting production soon depends on Campbell actually being able to do it - which he isn't. He has a film in post-production and another film in pre-production.

So yes, I recognise that it's May 2009 and yes, I still think that a GL movie is nowhere near ready.

A delay doesn't mean anything bad. It means WB is taking the time to ensure that the project is going to be good. Drawing comparison to Batman again (only because its the only other active DC project at the moment) - there's a 4 year gap between it and TDK now. Goyer and Jonah were openly tossing about story ideas before TDK was released, and by the end of the year Chris had hinted that he had finally found a story which interest him. WB has also submitted the film to the writer's guild with Chris' name attached and the movie is (apparently) going to start doing some pre-production work in the new year (whether or not this rumour was on the assumption the film would be released in 2011 is another thing). But this is a pretty good indication that these movies just don't pop up overnight.

Evil Twin
05-07-2009, 11:44 AM
Without knowing the reason for the delay, it's really impossible to say whether it's a good move or a bad one. Scheduling/availability, rewrites, financing, on location weather, estimates for special effects time, labor issues, etc. could all be factors. GL still seems like a movie that WB wants to shoot and as far as we know, the production date hasn't changed, just the release date.

Beyond that, we'll see how things work out. Marvel already reworked their schedule several times and they only have one film currently in front of cameras. We've no idea how close or far they are from Thor or Captain America. Or whether they really can make all the schedules work. I saw worry about the start of production before getting worked up about a release date, which could change again. Possibly even moving up to March, for instance.

Webhead2006
05-07-2009, 12:27 PM
who has said the movie itself is being delayed from shooting, only the original release date. Untill there is news saying that that first unit filming is not starting in sept-nov like its been reported then we have problems.

SsM
05-07-2009, 12:46 PM
I've waited 15 years, I can wait an extra 6 months.

Octoberist
05-07-2009, 12:51 PM
see, that's the spirit.

FlawlessVictory
05-07-2009, 12:52 PM
I've waited 15 years, I can wait an extra 6 months.

My issue isn't with the wait. Honestly, that doesn't phase me in the least. It's a matter of where I think GL will perform better and IMO, December was a better spot rather than the crowded summer season.

SsM
05-07-2009, 12:53 PM
see, that's the spirit.

:up:


I'm okay with delays as long as it IS happening. I like Campbell, I like what I've seen from the script so far. I hope to hear more during SDCC this year.


Once trailers and tv spots start hitting though.. Man... I'm not going to want to wait anymore :P

My issue isn't with the wait. Honestly, that doesn't phase me in the least. It's a matter of where I think GL will perform better and IMO, December was a better spot rather than the crowded summer season.


I agree... maybe they will work out a better date later on.

matrix_ghost
05-07-2009, 12:57 PM
At least GL will have June to itself.


Don't underestimate Kung Fu Panda 2. Unlike the halfassed attempts like Shark Tale and Madagascar , Kung Fu Panda was actually a good movie. Not only that but it performed extremely well .

TheScarecrow
05-07-2009, 12:59 PM
My issue isn't with the wait. Honestly, that doesn't phase me in the least. It's a matter of where I think GL will perform better and IMO, December was a better spot rather than the crowded summer season.

Don't be surprised if some of those projects move. Anyway, 2008 was a crowded summer as well - Indian Jones, Iron Man, The Dark Knight, The Incredible Hulk, Hancock, The Mummy, Hellboy, Wanted, The Chronicles of Narnia and more.

Iron Man was still very successful, despite being a small-ish superhero in a crowded summer. GL's main competitors are Harry Potter and Spider-man 4. I don't believe that Captain America or Thor will be great successes (neither suit current movie tastes, nor do I think they're accesible to current audiences - Captain America will bomb in worldwide markets). Transformers 3 is already out.

FlawlessVictory
05-07-2009, 01:01 PM
Don't be surprised if some of those projects move. Anyway, 2008 was a crowded summer as well - Indian Jones, Iron Man, The Dark Knight, The Incredible Hulk, Hancock, The Mummy, Hellboy, Wanted, The Chronicles of Narnia and more.

Iron Man was still very successful, despite being a small-ish superhero in a crowded summer. GL's main competitors are Harry Potter and Spider-man 4. I don't believe that Captain America or Thor will be great successes (neither suit current movie tastes, nor do I think they're accesible to current audiences - Captain America will bomb in worldwide markets). Transformers 3 is already out.

You bring up fair points, but TIH, Mummy, Hellboy and Narnia all did not meet studio expectations/underperformed.

bunk
05-07-2009, 01:04 PM
Don't be surprised if some of those projects move. Anyway, 2008 was a crowded summer as well - Indian Jones, Iron Man, The Dark Knight, The Incredible Hulk, Hancock, The Mummy, Hellboy, Wanted, The Chronicles of Narnia and more.

Iron Man was still very successful, despite being a small-ish superhero in a crowded summer. GL's main competitors are Harry Potter and Spider-man 4. I don't believe that Captain America or Thor will be great successes (neither suit current movie tastes, nor do I think they're accesible to current audiences - Captain America will bomb in worldwide markets). Transformers 3 is already out.


Where exactly are you getting this crap?

matrix_ghost
05-07-2009, 01:05 PM
Don't be surprised if some of those projects move. Anyway, 2008 was a crowded summer as well - Indian Jones, Iron Man, The Dark Knight, The Incredible Hulk, Hancock, The Mummy, Hellboy, Wanted, The Chronicles of Narnia and more.

Iron Man was still very successful, despite being a small-ish superhero in a crowded summer. GL's main competitors are Harry Potter and Spider-man 4. I don't believe that Captain America or Thor will be great successes (neither suit current movie tastes, nor do I think they're accesible to current audiences - Captain America will bomb in worldwide markets). Transformers 3 is already out.

Considering that Potter and GL are both WB franchises , i don't see WB screwing with their BO sales. Espcially since GL is supposed to the next big comic property of WB ( after Superman & Batman).
I do think that WB planned the move well enough to give GL plenty of time before Potter is released. This is the last Potter movie and after this WB will need their CB franchises to bring in the $$$. Therefore they'll have to make GL memorable enough to make an impact a la Iron Man.

dnno1
05-07-2009, 01:35 PM
The December 17, 2010 release date was reported to have come from Warner Brothers. Unless they changed it, that should be the official date that everyone is going with. Of course it is the WB's prerogative to change the date as they see fit, what we do know for sure is that the film is in active development and should be starting principle photography in September. That is according to Production Weekly (http://www.scribd.com/doc/11856226/Production-Weekly-Issue-647-Thursday-February-12-2009-122-listings-23-pages). If anyone is feeling brave they could also try to call Deline Productions to see if the dates have changed.

The Apatow Crew
05-07-2009, 01:42 PM
Where exactly are you getting this crap?I guess cause his name is Captain America. And he's saying alot of people overseas hate America I don't know, ask him about his theory.

dnno1
05-07-2009, 01:45 PM
I guess cause his name is Captain America. And he's saying alot of people overseas hate America I don't know, ask him about his theory.

Actually the last two attempts at getting the character on screen (one was a live action TV show and the other was supposed to be a major motion picture) flopped. So you cant really get your hopes up for this one.

Chewy
05-07-2009, 02:03 PM
Where exactly are you getting this crap?
Who knows? People said similar things about Iron Man, so obviously it doesn't matter. "Guy in a rocket suit? Audiences will never connect, it'll flop"
Actually the last two attempts at getting the character on screen (one was a live action TV show and the other was supposed to be a major motion picture) flopped. So you cant really get your hopes up for this one.
Right. Because TV movies and low-budget DTV fare are the same thing as a big-budget tentpole movie :up:

dark_b
05-07-2009, 02:09 PM
Are you aware that Batman movies, which take a hell of a lot less post-production work than Green Lantern will (most of the scenes are going to have to take place in an environment with some amount of CGI in it) take well over a year and a half to get from the camera starting up, to actually making it on the screen. Nolan started filming TDK in January and was very hard pressed getting it finished to actually make it by the release date (in late July the following year).

Not to mention what was several months of pre-production work BEFORE that, none of which has been done by the GL crew (oh wait, it hasn't got a lot of major players for its crew yet) and all of the work that needs to be done for the cast (oh wait...it doesn't have one of those yet). Then again - aren't all of the sets constructed? No. Don't look at films like Iron Man II for comparison. They don't need to build sets from scratch, they don't need to design every facet of the film (but note that Iron Man II release date is only about 6 months or so ahead of Green Lantern and is already filming - something which GL is nowhere near ready to do).

Making a movie takes a lot of time and, I'm sorry to say, GL is in the very early stages. It has a script...and that's pretty much it. Batman 3 isn't even coming until 2012 and it (according to rumours) has already had at least one draft of a script done for it. Not to mention that GL starting production soon depends on Campbell actually being able to do it - which he isn't. He has a film in post-production and another film in pre-production.

So yes, I recognise that it's May 2009 and yes, I still think that a GL movie is nowhere near ready.

A delay doesn't mean anything bad. It means WB is taking the time to ensure that the project is going to be good. Drawing comparison to Batman again (only because its the only other active DC project at the moment) - there's a 4 year gap between it and TDK now. Goyer and Jonah were openly tossing about story ideas before TDK was released, and by the end of the year Chris had hinted that he had finally found a story which interest him. WB has also submitted the film to the writer's guild with Chris' name attached and the movie is (apparently) going to start doing some pre-production work in the new year (whether or not this rumour was on the assumption the film would be released in 2011 is another thing). But this is a pretty good indication that these movies just don't pop up overnight.STOP MENTIONING THE DARK KNIGHT. PLEASE

because TDK made 500 millions domestic does this mean that now every movie needs to spend the same amount time for filming? i am going crazy. every time i want to talk about a comicbook movie on SHH eeverytime someoen compares it to TDK. everything is about TDK. whats wrong iwth you guys?
are you even aware that Nolan filmed a lot in chicago? are you aware that he doesnt have secon unit ? he is always there? he didnt have a lot of greenscreen.

they would have enough time.

dark_b
05-07-2009, 02:11 PM
^Yea, how is it that before yesterday there was not one post that was of the nature of "OMG GL is gonna be rushed!!!!11! the december release date is no good" but now that we have this news we have people claiming that it's good because the movie would have been rushed. Where was the concern before? :huh:

This move, IMO, is a mistake. December was ideal, it was safe for a movie like this. WB is gambling big. And if this movie underperforms then kiss all other DC superhero live action films not named Batman goodbye.what an amazing post. i was about to writte this. but you already did.

1 year and 5 months is enough time.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-07-2009, 02:33 PM
Flawless and dark b, you guys are 100% correct. WB did not move this film because the didn't have enough time...now we can argue about why they moved it but it's not because the were on a tight schedule.

Man of Tomorrow
05-07-2009, 02:41 PM
Think about this..

If WB really wanted to target summer, why couldnt they have got summer 2010??

The studio clearly cant handle DC films on this scale.

I bet there's alot of internal debate over GL's potential to make them money.



To me, this just reflects badly on WB/DC ever making future films that arent 'Batman'

mclay18
05-07-2009, 02:51 PM
STOP MENTIONING THE DARK KNIGHT. PLEASE

because TDK made 500 millions domestic does this mean that now every movie needs to spend the same amount time for filming? i am going crazy.

Um, because it took roughly three years to make? We know Jonah Nolan had a draft for TDK completed by late 2005, WB announced that production was moving ahead on July 2006, filming started in mid-April 2007 and concluded late November. And IM took roughly the same amount of time before that came out. (But its sequel has a shorter production time though.)

If anything GL will follow the same pattern -- Berlanti and the co-writers made the pitch in October 2007 during the WGA strike, writing started after the strike was resolved, and we got Martin Campbell to direct in February 2009, and now casting and location scouting are in full swing.

WB and the film producers have plenty of time to make GL and give it the post-production time it needs. If filming started in July as opposed to November, the December 2010 release date would've been attainable.

mclay18
05-07-2009, 02:53 PM
Think about this..

If WB really wanted to target summer, why couldnt they have got summer 2010??

They would've been filming by now, and besides all the good summer 2010 dates are booked up.

Dark Knight
05-07-2009, 02:54 PM
The December release date would have been nice since they would have had it all to themselves.....but June 17th isn't bad just as long as Transformers 3 doesn't come out the weekend before or after. My guess is that the push back date is to give more time for post production (hope IL&M or Weta do the FX) and it possibly gives more time for WB's and Campbell to secure their lead actor who they are targeting.

Hope it's Worthington, Pine, or Cavill.

The Apatow Crew
05-07-2009, 03:00 PM
Actually the last two attempts at getting the character on screen (one was a live action TV show and the other was supposed to be a major motion picture) flopped. So you cant really get your hopes up for this one.Yes, that was then, this is now.

I'm sure people's minds have changed about stuff over the years.

bunk
05-07-2009, 03:02 PM
What's coming out in June and August of 2010?

Octoberist
05-07-2009, 03:24 PM
Jonah Hex is coming out in Aug 2010

Octoberist
05-07-2009, 03:24 PM
Yes, that was then, this is now.

I'm sure people's minds have changed about stuff over the years.



exactly.

Webhead2006
05-07-2009, 03:56 PM
Hopefully the move doesnt kill the bo but like others have pointed out TF3 isnt coming out in 2011 it is pegged for 2012, so really gl would only have to fight a few other films like spider-man 4, etc... But yea we will only have to worry like i said in an earlier post is if production doesnt start up in nov like it has been planned. We know development is moving along with various crew members being selected and the current casting news and testing going on. A problem would be is if they dont have a hal ready to go by aug if they are dont sept/nov start. Cause they would need a few months for training, testing, and costume-sfx screenings-scans.

Doctor Jones
05-07-2009, 04:30 PM
Do these people realize how many damn comic book films are coming out in 2011? December was alot smarter because that meant that GL could of already been ahead of the competetition. They still have plenty of time for a September start.

matrix_ghost
05-07-2009, 04:32 PM
Think about this..

If WB really wanted to target summer, why couldnt they have got summer 2010??

The studio clearly cant handle DC films on this scale.

I bet there's alot of internal debate over GL's potential to make them money.



To me, this just reflects badly on WB/DC ever making future films that arent 'Batman'

Because otherwise the movie would've been rushed. They would've gotten a year to shoot the movie and finish post. prod. meaning A) they would have to pump tremendouns amounts of $$$ to finish the VFX and B) it would be a question whether or not those shots would even be finished in time.

Besides WB's 2010 summer movies are
Inception ( july)
Jonah Hex ( August)

I dunno about their May/June releases but March will also see the Clash Of The Titanis remake

dark_b
05-07-2009, 04:36 PM
Do these people realize how many damn comic book films are coming out in 2011? December was alot smarter because that meant that GL could of already been ahead of the competetition. They still have plenty of time for a September start.in december GL would stand out. in summer 2011 hit will be ''just another'' comicbook movie.

Webhead2006
05-07-2009, 04:37 PM
who knows how long it would to shoot and get post work done.

matrix_ghost
05-07-2009, 04:39 PM
Do these people realize how many damn comic book films are coming out in 2011? December was alot smarter because that meant that GL could of already been ahead of the competetition. They still have plenty of time for a September start.

btw. If Dec 2010 doesn''t work out , why not Dec 2011 ?
That would give the cast & crew plenty of time to work on the movie without rushing AND also being able to keep the costs relatively low.

Heck if Green Lantern wou'd've come out in June 2011 followed by the July 2011 release of the last POtter movie ( thus giving GL a month or so to make the bulk of it's millions) , what's the harm in releasing it in dec 2011.
Given the excellent performance of Happy Feet , i'm sure alot of people would flock to see Happy 2 ( in 3-D !!!). Happy feet is released in November. And Green Lantern in dec. 2011.

RachelDawes
05-07-2009, 04:46 PM
^I agree with you there Flawless. I don't like the idea of cramming so many superhero movies in one year. You think studios are frightened about the 2012 end of the world thing?

Since WB is probably going to release the third batman movie in 2012 I doubt it.

matrix_ghost
05-07-2009, 04:47 PM
who knows how long it would to shoot and get post work done.

Generally speaking a big budget blockbuster has a shoot of 4-6 months. POst.prod. takes longer but the length depends on several factors
A) complexity
Does the shot involve complex camera moves. Do they have to create loads of shots featuring CG humans etc.
B) time spend
General rule here is , the bigger the shot the more time you need to spend
C) money spend
One of the more cost-effective ways of finishing VFX shots is to to actually take your time finishg the shots instead of rushing time.
To use the POTC sequels and the Prince-Of-Persia movie as an example :
" The reason why the PoP movie was pushed back was the POTC movies ( although very succesful financially) still could've made the studios more. Instead the studio actually had to spend far more money in order to get the movie in time for the release date. "

It depends on how much WB is willing to spend on Green Lantern but if they're going for the level of action that is featured in the spidey movies AND spending 150 million , then i would think that a post. prod period of a year might actually be more then enough

dnno1
05-07-2009, 04:52 PM
Yes, that was then, this is now.

I'm sure people's minds have changed about stuff over the years.

Hey, a lot of things never change. My beef with Captain American is that he was pumped up with steroids to get where is is today. What kind of message is that sending to everybody when we are persecuting our sports heroes for that? Yes, this is now and that concept is kind of dead.

RachelDawes
05-07-2009, 04:52 PM
btw. If Dec 2010 doesn''t work out , why not Dec 2011 ?
That would give the cast & crew plenty of time to work on the movie without rushing AND also being able to keep the costs relatively low.

Excellent question. WB must see superheroes as summer fare.

I'm nervous about releasing GL in the summer but it could be WB knows something we don't.

Webhead2006
05-07-2009, 05:37 PM
Generally speaking a big budget blockbuster has a shoot of 4-6 months. POst.prod. takes longer but the length depends on several factors
A) complexity
Does the shot involve complex camera moves. Do they have to create loads of shots featuring CG humans etc.
B) time spend
General rule here is , the bigger the shot the more time you need to spend
C) money spend
One of the more cost-effective ways of finishing VFX shots is to to actually take your time finishg the shots instead of rushing time.
To use the POTC sequels and the Prince-Of-Persia movie as an example :
" The reason why the PoP movie was pushed back was the POTC movies ( although very succesful financially) still could've made the studios more. Instead the studio actually had to spend far more money in order to get the movie in time for the release date. "

It depends on how much WB is willing to spend on Green Lantern but if they're going for the level of action that is featured in the spidey movies AND spending 150 million , then i would think that a post. prod period of a year might actually be more then enough
Yea i know how long it takes for films to be done, since i am going to school for this business and want to get into it some day soon. I was just saying we dont know right now since production hasnt started filming yet on if it would end up being a long shoot or if things could be shot at a shorter pace. Though i do hope everything works out well for the film.

TheVileOne
05-07-2009, 05:51 PM
I'm confused. When did it go from 12/2010 to 6/2011?

And now its 12/2011?

Dev
05-07-2009, 06:55 PM
^Huh?

Webhead2006
05-07-2009, 07:01 PM
no no the release date of dec 2010 been revealed to been bumped to june 2011.

Dev
05-07-2009, 07:06 PM
^That statement makes no sense.

TheComicbookKid
05-07-2009, 07:19 PM
I'm confused. When did it go from 12/2010 to 6/2011?

And now its 12/2011?

There is no 12-2011. Some people like the Winter date and were saying the WB should move it to winter 2011. The date has only officially changed from December 2010 to June 2011

FaT_tONle
05-07-2009, 07:56 PM
My two cents... I don't have a HUGE problem with this move. GL is a summer tentpole film and should be treated as such. That said... you are going to sandwich this thing between two big time animated FAMILY films like Panda 2 and Pixar's Cars 2??? That's another case in point of WB using their asses before their heads. I understand WB is treating their property a lot more "mature"... but that didn't help TIH either if we are being honest here. And July 1st... don't be suprised if Paramount tries to slip Captain America in there. The longer that widow stays opened the better their chances and there will be more than enough room between Thor/Cap regardless assuming Thor stays May 20th. And if not... certainly a Will Smith movie could be fair game. June is the flop month it really is. Even BB underperformed compared to what it should have been. You are basically limiting yourself to a maximum of 150 million... solid but not good enough in this market.

Chewy
05-07-2009, 08:28 PM
Slightly off-topic, but if you ever needed evidence that MTV's Splash Page is a total joke, this (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/05/07/live-action-green-lantern-delayed-will-now-hit-theaters-same-day-as-thor/) article is a pretty good example :lmao:

FlawlessVictory
05-07-2009, 08:36 PM
^LOL, saw that myself earlier. Can you get any sloppier than that? They have good nuggets from time to time, but can they really be expected to be taken even somewhat seriously when they write something as clueless as that?

Saint
05-07-2009, 08:38 PM
Hey, a lot of things never change. My beef with Captain American is that he was pumped up with steroids to get where is is today. What kind of message is that sending to everybody when we are persecuting our sports heroes for that? Yes, this is now and that concept is kind of dead.

So the property is dead because you perceived a message you don't like? Wow. A lot of fiction must be "dead," then, since most comic book heroes are dangerous vigilantes--and they nearly universally do things that could be perceived as sending the "wrong" message. In fact, it seems the only comic book character capable of surviving such an asinine standard is Superman.

What a ridiculous idea, anyway. We "persecute" our "sports heroes" because they are cheating in a game. Captain America was designed to fight a war and save lives. If "Take drugs, win sports!" is the message you get from that, that's completely absurd. You might as well ask "What kind of message is Robocop sending?" since we ask our "sports heroes" not to shoot their opponents in the face. The concept is completely unrelated to the message you're imagining.

An an unrelated note, why do people say things like "sports hero?" You're a hero for playing games, now? We don't call our garbage men "Sanitation heroes," and they perform a function that actually matters.

Octoberist
05-07-2009, 08:38 PM
even then, Green Lantern would probably beat Thor because it's flashier.

Saint
05-07-2009, 08:42 PM
It is?

FaT_tONle
05-07-2009, 08:47 PM
I could actually see GL/Thor conflicting if one of these 09 films tries to slip a sequel in May. Trek and Terminator have all hinted at plans for a next installment in 2011. I can't see Thor moving out of May but that could be the case if Terminator 5 announces that date. As of now I like the spacing though; it's not as bad as it could be, but that can change.

Octoberist
05-07-2009, 08:49 PM
It is?

I would think that Joe Public might think so. yes. Science fiction and aliens, baby.

SsM
05-07-2009, 08:50 PM
Yeah but Thor has Norse gods and mythology.

Saint
05-07-2009, 08:55 PM
Yeah but Thor has Norse gods and mythology.

My point.

Octoberist
05-07-2009, 08:55 PM
it depends in how they do it. If it's like Lord of the Rings, then yeah.

I just don't see the appeal of Thor for some odd reason. I'm saying this in the safety of the Green Lantern section too! I don't get him or Namor.

SsM
05-07-2009, 08:56 PM
My favorite has always been GL so I may be biased.. but Thor can be.. very interesting depending on how they take the character.

Octoberist
05-07-2009, 08:57 PM
i can't be the only one who doesn't get Thor. Help me out people!

FaT_tONle
05-07-2009, 08:59 PM
Thor will have its hands full trying to sell itself. Will it be Shakespeare, which is a good thing, but for a comicbook tentpole??? Will it be LOTR (you know Marvel won't be nearly as ambitious with it)? Will the lead actor have any credibility with the GA? Will it be too cheezy? Still questions that won't be answered for another two years.

SsM
05-07-2009, 09:00 PM
i can't be the only one who doesn't get Thor. Help me out people!


I don't get Thor, but I've read some stories of his that have been interesting. Mythology interests me :)

Double Down
05-07-2009, 09:02 PM
Slightly off-topic, but if you ever needed evidence that MTV's Splash Page is a total joke, this (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/05/07/live-action-green-lantern-delayed-will-now-hit-theaters-same-day-as-thor/) article is a pretty good example :lmao:

I stopped reading that site. You were correct when you called it a total joke.

Saint
05-07-2009, 09:02 PM
i can't be the only one who doesn't get Thor. Help me out people!

I realize this costs money (though, there are other ways), but the best way to "get it" would be to read the current volume of Thor. It is should be retitled "Exceptional." Or perhaps "Wonderful." And I say this having never read an issue of Thor prior to this volume.

The Guard
05-07-2009, 09:24 PM
WATCHMEN was delayed as well. It was more or less completely worth it.

What's the issue here, exactly?

There are all kinds of legitimate reasons for a delay. Casting, locations, all kinds of production issues. Bottom line, I've wanted years for even the possibility of a GREEN LANTERN film. I'll wait six more months for a good one.

Sam
05-07-2009, 10:12 PM
To move GL to the middle of a HUGE busy season (summer 2011), Warner must trust a lot on this script.

What, actually, makes me think its a good sign.

RachelDawes
05-07-2009, 10:18 PM
i can't be the only one who doesn't get Thor. Help me out people!

I didn't get Thor until I started reading the Thor boards, and now I'm a bit excited for the movie. But will the GA give it a chance? I don't know. I can really see that flopping.

Lobo
05-07-2009, 10:19 PM
The script nails Thor perfectly, I really feel it will be a big hit.

Webhead2006
05-07-2009, 11:42 PM
yea everything should be good with gl if everything goes well with production and who knows if production does end up finishing on time or early and could be ready in late 2010 maybe they could move it back to xmas 10 season we will just have to see how production runs once it starts up in a few months.

TheScarecrow
05-08-2009, 01:35 AM
Where exactly are you getting this crap?

That Captain America will not be a big success in Worldwide markets? How much of the rest of the world will embrace a movie called "Captain America"? Especially one which is about a super-moral superhero who wears a costume modelled after the American flag. Do you not realise what sentiment is towards such stuff in the rest of the world? It's not good. I also say that because Joe Johnston is directing, while I guess I like him to a certain extent, he's not the most innovative or cutting-edge director in the world so I'm expecting some sort of cultural comment which would make the movie more accessible to worldwide audiences. I don't see how you can argue this point - ask anyone in the GP outside of America whether they would see a serious superhero film (as opposed to a parody) based on a character called Captain America who dressed up in a costume that resembled the flag and see what they say.

Thor is just a guess and I might be surprised by it. I just don't see it having a huge amount of appeal and I think the summer is going to be too busy for it to surprise. I'm not saying it's not going to be a good movie, or that it won't get any business. I'm just saying it's probably not going to be a massive hit. No one knows the source material, and it just doesn't fit in with the science fiction-ish taste of moviegoers at the moment.

I do think Green Lantern will be a big success though, no matter where it's put. The character is better recognised than Captain America and definitely more than Thor and he just truly fits the taste of movie-goers at the moment.


STOP MENTIONING THE DARK KNIGHT. PLEASE

because TDK made 500 millions domestic does this mean that now every movie needs to spend the same amount time for filming? i am going crazy. every time i want to talk about a comicbook movie on SHH eeverytime someoen compares it to TDK. everything is about TDK. whats wrong iwth you guys?
are you even aware that Nolan filmed a lot in chicago? are you aware that he doesnt have secon unit ? he is always there? he didnt have a lot of greenscreen.

they would have enough time.

What I am saying is that this is how long it takes for WB to make these movies. Yeah, I'm aware that Nolan shoots everything himself but if you read my posts instead of just ranting like this I said they probably would get it out in time - were Campbell not completing one movie and shooting another after that before Green Lantern, if they had a cast and were beggining shooting now and if they had a complete crew. What TDK made has nothiing to do with it - they're two comic book properties at WB and I would expect them to take the same amount of time to do both of them. And you're right - Nolan didn't have a tonne of green-screen, so the entire movie didn't have to have to CGI added after filming was done. Pretty much every scene in Green Lantern is going to require CGI, so it's going to take longer after filming actually wraps for the film to be completed.

dark_b
05-08-2009, 05:14 AM
they started filming on iron man in march 2007. realese date may. was the movie rushed?

bunk
05-08-2009, 09:01 AM
That Captain America will not be a big success in Worldwide markets? How much of the rest of the world will embrace a movie called "Captain America"? Especially one which is about a super-moral superhero who wears a costume modelled after the American flag. Do you not realise what sentiment is towards such stuff in the rest of the world? It's not good. I also say that because Joe Johnston is directing, while I guess I like him to a certain extent, he's not the most innovative or cutting-edge director in the world so I'm expecting some sort of cultural comment which would make the movie more accessible to worldwide audiences. I don't see how you can argue this point - ask anyone in the GP outside of America whether they would see a serious superhero film (as opposed to a parody) based on a character called Captain America who dressed up in a costume that resembled the flag and see what they say.

Most of rest of the world that had an appreciation for American pop culture, still do. Don't confuse dislike for a country's government with dislike for a country's people and exports. Would a Jack Bauer movie play well overseas? Not likely. A movie that showcases a character with specifically the best aspects of people is not offensive. I have had the same thoughts about Joe Johnston though.

Thor is just a guess

Yes.

I do think Green Lantern will be a big success though, no matter where it's put. The character is better recognised than Captain America and definitely more than Thor and he just truly fits the taste of movie-goers at the moment.

Probably not.

Evil Twin
05-08-2009, 09:07 AM
It wouldn't exactly be shocking if they're bumping GL to the Summer because they're bumping INCEPTION from Summer 2010 to the Winter 2010. We know that Nolan takes a long time to make a movie after all and the schedule might be too tight for Nolan, not for Campbell.

mclay18
05-08-2009, 10:07 AM
they started filming on iron man in march 2007. realese date may. was the movie rushed?

Filming was done in June of that year -- I personally thought the shooting schedule was rushed (3 months of shooting?), but they probably did that to have more room for ILM to perfect the CGI.

I wouldn't be surprised if Iron Man 2 will have the exact same schedule -- filming will probably wrap July or August since it started a month later than its sequel.

FaT_tONle
05-08-2009, 10:16 AM
When did Nolan make the switch to winter 2010 for Inception? Now WB won't have a summer tentpole in July? I mean I thought that was a BIG "no-no" for them.

TheScarecrow
05-08-2009, 10:47 AM
I still think GL would be rushed if it went into production so quickly.

FlawlessVictory
05-08-2009, 11:16 AM
When did Nolan make the switch to winter 2010 for Inception? Now WB won't have a summer tentpole in July? I mean I thought that was a BIG "no-no" for them.

He hasn't, I think Evil Twin was speculating. But as of this moment, Inception is still scheduled for a July 2010 release.

July (Details (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&date=2010-07-02&showweeks=5&p=.htm))
Despicable Me (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=despicableme.htm) (Uni. (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=universal.htm)) - 7/9
Robert Rodriguez's Predators (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=predators.htm) (Fox (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=fox.htm)) - 7/9
Inception (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=inception.htm) (WB (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=warnerbros.htm)) - 7/16
The Sorcerer's Apprentice (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=sorcerersapprentice.htm) (BV (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=buenavista.htm)) - 7/16
Salt (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=salt10.htm) (Sony (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=sony.htm)) - 7/23
The Zookeeper (tentative title) (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=zookeeper.htm) (MGM (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=mgm.htm)) - 7/23
Cats & Dogs: Revenge of Kitty Galore (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=catsanddogs2.htm) (WB (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=warnerbros.htm)) - 7/30
Morning Glory (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=morningglory10.htm) (Par. (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=paramount.htm)) - 7/30


http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&yr=2010&p=.htm

Dev
05-08-2009, 11:22 AM
^Nolan has an Evil Twin who reported the Inception change date? :confused:

FlawlessVictory
05-08-2009, 11:26 AM
^Yes, but thankfully the good Chris Nolan managed to send him back to the dimension where he came from.

Dev
05-08-2009, 11:28 AM
How you so sure the Evil one didn't send the good one to another dimension?

FlawlessVictory
05-08-2009, 11:38 AM
The evil one had a goatee, but the real giveaway was the fact that he wasn't wearing a vest.

GreenKToo
05-08-2009, 12:07 PM
Not trying to burst anyone's bubble here regarding G.L., but its never good to hear a film is delayed.
Maybe their doing it to make it right, or maybe not. Time will tell.

Ion Kenshin
05-08-2009, 12:11 PM
Man alot of anger and animosity in this thread. It's reasons like this why I don't get myself excited for a film too much until. There is a confirmed script, cast, and filming has begun. Before that anything goes with a film in the process of being made. I mean does it really make sense to worry about a film that we have no idea who is even it or what the plot/direction will be. It's like being made at how bad your bedroom looks in a house that only has the foundation beams built

bunk
05-08-2009, 12:11 PM
Are they delaying going into production, or are they just pushing the release back to get a summer movie?

Chewy
05-08-2009, 12:19 PM
They already delayed filming to November, so I think this is just the release date delay to go along with that

Evil Twin
05-08-2009, 12:27 PM
Just to make it clear, I'm speculating that INCEPTION might (might!) get pushed back. It does seem to be a likely possibility to me since a) Nolan takes a long time to make a film, b) INCEPTION is reportedly big and complicated and hasn't started shooting yet, and c) a year end release is more apt to garner awards consideration.

It wouldn't be the first time something like that happened. Titanic, for instance.

Dark Knight
05-08-2009, 12:45 PM
It wouldn't exactly be shocking if they're bumping GL to the Summer because they're bumping INCEPTION from Summer 2010 to the Winter 2010. We know that Nolan takes a long time to make a movie after all and the schedule might be too tight for Nolan, not for Campbell.



Bumping Nolans Inception to the winter of 2010 might be a wise move IMO. I'sn't a Potter film scheduled to be released in summer 2010 anyhow?

bunk
05-08-2009, 12:52 PM
I thought Potter was November 2010.

Dark Knight
05-08-2009, 12:52 PM
Captain America will do crappy internationally.

Write it down....

Ion Kenshin
05-08-2009, 12:54 PM
Captain America will do crappy internationally.

Write that down....
fixed :hehe:
http://andrewjuderajanathan.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/vanwilder2.jpg

FaT_tONle
05-08-2009, 01:22 PM
WB moved Potter 6 to summer 09 for the sole reason that "they HAD to have a July movie". No way in hell they allow Nolan to miss that date. WB can't move anything else into that slot. I think the reason why Nolan got the budget he's getting for Inception, other than his success with Batman, was that WB intended for it to be their 2010 summer tentpole.

chiefchirpa
05-08-2009, 01:49 PM
I do think Green Lantern will be a big success though, no matter where it's put. The character is better recognised than Captain America


You must be sheltered under a rock called Dc comics or the mainstream bandwagon franchise called Batman.

Captain America is a heck more iconic than Green Lantern.

Dark Knight
05-08-2009, 02:00 PM
fixed :hehe:
http://andrewjuderajanathan.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/vanwilder2.jpg




:word:

Evil Twin
05-08-2009, 02:09 PM
WB moved Potter 6 to summer 09 for the sole reason that "they HAD to have a July movie". No way in hell they allow Nolan to miss that date. WB can't move anything else into that slot. I think the reason why Nolan got the budget he's getting for Inception, other than his success with Batman, was that WB intended for it to be their 2010 summer tentpole.

What WB intended and what is actually possible, might be two different things. Or not, but moving expensive, highly anticipated movies does happen. Valkyrie being a recent example. They haven't shot a frame of INCEPTION footage, so a release date is more a target than a fact.

And WB has a few projects that they can juggle around as well. They have a Johnny Quest movie, for instance. Clash of the Titans. Sex and the City 2. They could add star power to something like The Losers to make it a bigger production. Or, heck, they can still greenlight a big comedy.

Haven't we learned, from Marvel if from nobody else with their "loan agreement which requires them to release two films a year", that release dates for films not in production aren't engraved in stone?

FaT_tONle
05-08-2009, 03:32 PM
I have been the first person to tell people that these release dates will constantly get shifted. I can't tell you how much crow I was taking when I told people SM4 would shove Marvel out of May 6th 2011. That said, those comedies you listed above are not tentpole films. Surely, Clash of the Titans can be maneuvered but I would have liked to have seen more names attached to that one. It's unlikely WB will just have a dead summer with forgettable comedies like that.

Octoberist
05-08-2009, 03:38 PM
exactly, I usually I don't care if they move around a date for a movie that they haven't even shot yet. it's not a big deal. Marvel did too with three of their films.

It's based on economy, time for the filmmakers involved, and business.

Octoberist
05-08-2009, 03:39 PM
You must be sheltered under a rock called Dc comics or the mainstream bandwagon franchise called Batman.

Captain America is a heck more iconic than Green Lantern.

Capt is more iconic than Green, i agree. It's not a bad thing either for Green.

protocida
05-08-2009, 06:37 PM
I believe CA and GL are matched in terms of public knowledge.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-08-2009, 06:53 PM
^I don't. I believe that Cap is more well known.

Blackman
05-08-2009, 07:08 PM
Ya I agree with I SEE SPIDEY
I like GL but CA is ways more ahead of him. Or not ways ahead but he is more well known by the public thats for sure
Anyways alot of the GA think that GL is only black

Dev
05-08-2009, 07:10 PM
^Yeah Cap is more well known but this isn't any indication that one movie is going to make more than the next. A Cap movie done right IMO could make far less than a GL movie done right. Its 2 separate genre films. One is a war type movie based in the past and another is an space/fantasy type adventure. It's like Saving Private Ryan Vs Star Wars. Which one was more successful?

TheVileOne
05-08-2009, 07:18 PM
2011 seems risky, but we'll see.

djkris
05-08-2009, 07:20 PM
Guess that Wolverine box office scared a lot of people....

Blackman
05-08-2009, 07:27 PM
ya Summer 2011 is a cluster of superhero films.
I wish they would have kept in in Winter 2010, but I know that they will use the extension to make the film even better.
Hey a who knows maybe they'll push it back up

chiefchirpa
05-08-2009, 08:45 PM
I believe CA and GL are matched in terms of public knowledge.

Hell no. GL is about Iron Man level. Cap's shield, red-white-blue uniform, and history that goes far from 1939 make him one of the most iconic Marvel character to the public, even more so to senior citizens. I reckon is about WW level of awareness.

chiefchirpa
05-08-2009, 08:48 PM
Which one was more successful?

The one that is the better film and/or advertised? It's anyone's game until summer 2011.

zeptron
05-09-2009, 07:05 AM
Okay I'm confused now. Some this article (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6858&Itemid=99) says that Green Lantern and Thor are coming out the same day which is June 17 2011, but some sites say that Thor is coming out in May 2011. Which is it?

Sorry if this has already been discussed.

Kirk Langstrom
05-09-2009, 08:53 AM
Hell no. GL is about Iron Man level. Cap's shield, red-white-blue uniform, and history that goes far from 1939 make him one of the most iconic Marvel character to the public, even more so to senior citizens. I reckon is about WW level of awareness.

Indeed. During WWII, Captain America comics were out-selling both Superman AND Batman.

Kirk Langstrom
05-09-2009, 08:57 AM
Here is the 2011 release schedule as it stands now:

May (Details (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&date=2011-05-06&showweeks=4&p=.htm))
Spider-Man 4 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=spiderman4.htm) (Sony (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=sony.htm)) - 5/6
Thor (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=thor.htm) (Par. (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=paramount.htm)) - 5/20

June (Details (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&date=2011-06-03&showweeks=4&p=.htm))
Kung Fu Panda Sequel (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=kungfupanda2.htm) (P/DW (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=pardw.htm)) - 6/3
Green Lantern (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=greenlantern.htm) (WB (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=warnerbros.htm)) - 6/17
Cars 2 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=cars2.htm) (BV (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=buenavista.htm)) - 6/24

July (Details (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&date=2011-07-01&showweeks=5&p=.htm))
Transformers 3 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers3.htm) (P/DW (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=pardw.htm)) - 7/1
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (Part Two) (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=harrypotter72.htm) (WB (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=warnerbros.htm)) - 7/15
The First Avenger: Captain America (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=captainamerica.htm) (Par. (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=distributor&id=paramount.htm)) - 7/22




http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&yr=2011&p=.htm



Looks like there's room for everyone.

Showtime
05-09-2009, 09:35 AM
Guess that Wolverine box office scared a lot of people....

You mean the 85 Million it made in it's opening weekend which is really good or the big drop it is going to experience this weekend which is really bad?

shiveringmelody
05-09-2009, 06:55 PM
I was starting to get a little worried with the casting, so I am glad they are taking there time on it. I've waited most of my life, so another 6 months shouldn't kill me. Much like Nolan......In Campbell I trust.

Double Down
05-09-2009, 07:38 PM
For those worried about GL getting pushed back from Dec. 2010 to summer 2011, keep in mind that Star Trek was pushed back from Dec. 2008 to summer 2009. And that worked out better than OK.

dnno1
05-09-2009, 07:59 PM
The other thing to consider is that if the project is being moved to June, then it more than likely will be a tent-pole for that year.

Dev
05-09-2009, 08:01 PM
I think they should take the transformers July 4th weekend in 2011 since Transformers seems to out of that spot.

Showtime
05-09-2009, 08:04 PM
I think any fan that hears or sees the word delayed gets a bit nervous, which is understandable, but it certainly isn't always bad as you have pointed out Double Down.

Lobo
05-09-2009, 08:53 PM
I'm not too worried with the move. I really liked the DEC release date, but I can wait an extra 6 months for them to get the best possible actors without scheduling conflicts and plenty of time for post.

Webhead2006
05-09-2009, 09:59 PM
Yea we would just have to be worried if production start date in a few months doesnt happen. But since they are going through casting process currently that we know of who knows maybe they can have their hal set already or they are just testing their top choices and see which the producers/director like and which ones the studio likes and make it work between the two.

solidsnake86
05-09-2009, 10:14 PM
Maybe they feel that the material is strong enough to put it in the summer as opposed to the winter release date. Especially with Martin Campbell as the director and I have a feeling this has to do with casting as well. If they feel that they have something that can probably stand up to thor and captain america why not put the movie in the summer.

This isn't a final attempt at a reboot ala superman which I can definately see them putting in the winter.

FaT_tONle
05-10-2009, 12:52 AM
July 1st won't happen because WB needs separation for Potter. That said you can expect at least one more big movie in there. Someone will be gunning for that last weekend in June leading into July 1st. Probably a Trek or Terminator sequel. Along with two big animated films... the competition will be tough. TIH did nothing in June. Batman Begins did okay but it was Batman and it had weaker competition in 2005. Not to mention that was then and this is now. I don't see this film being anywhere near 200 million with that kind of competition.

Webhead2006
05-10-2009, 11:32 AM
very likely but whos to say all those films will still be in those places come time in 2011.

TheScarecrow
05-10-2009, 11:46 AM
More confirmation that the film would be rushed to meet a November 2010 release - the shooting script isn't even done yet.

Sam Worthington confirms he is talking with Martin Campbell for the role, but that they're "still doing the script".

http://www.moviehole.net/200918991-worthington-talks-green-lantern

dark_b
05-10-2009, 01:14 PM
Maybe they feel that the material is strong enough to put it in the summer as opposed to the winter release date. Especially with Martin Campbell as the director and I have a feeling this has to do with casting as well. If they feel that they have something that can probably stand up to thor and captain america why not put the movie in the summer.

This isn't a final attempt at a reboot ala superman which I can definately see them putting in the winter.they should play it safe IMO. dont again try to experiment.

protocida
05-10-2009, 06:26 PM
Paramount did the same with Star Trek, and it's this year's TDK (Facing off with X-men Origins: Wolverine, Terminator Salvation and Angels and Demons).

Something tells me Green Lantern is going to be huge. Mark my words.

Webhead2006
05-10-2009, 06:28 PM
they have script which we know its just been going through rewrites, and all that.

mclay18
05-11-2009, 04:33 PM
It's based on economy, time for the filmmakers involved, and business.

Especially when the WB announced that the final HP film would be released on July 15, 2011 (same date for The Avengers), then Marvel realized their mistake and pushed TA back ten months.

Although their moving Thor from July 10, 2011 to May 20, 2011 seems a bit counterproductive, especially two weeks after Spider-Man 4 is supposed to come out. Then putting CA the week following HP8 (July 22) is a bad move, business-wise.

Webhead2006
05-11-2009, 08:54 PM
Well there is still a long time before any of those films come out who knows if these films might not move around again.

TheVileOne
05-14-2009, 04:08 AM
Paramount only pushed back Star Trek because of the strike to bolster their 2009 season.

I thought winter was a good release date. There's no reason to say these movies can't be huge or successful in the winter. Its a time more movies like this should take advantage of. I don't get this idea that superheroes can only play in the summer.

rogue trooper
05-14-2009, 01:34 PM
Something tells me Green Lantern is going to be huge. Mark my words.


DC's Iron Man, possibly. A relatively B-grade character who might make a quantum leap to the mainstream with cinema. Here's hoping, atleast.

FaT_tONle
05-14-2009, 02:30 PM
Especially when the WB announced that the final HP film would be released on July 15, 2011 (same date for The Avengers), then Marvel realized their mistake and pushed TA back ten months.

Although their moving Thor from July 10, 2011 to May 20, 2011 seems a bit counterproductive, especially two weeks after Spider-Man 4 is supposed to come out. Then putting CA the week following HP8 (July 22) is a bad move, business-wise.

June has been an awful release date for Marvel. FF2 pretty much bombed... TIH was basically a flop in mid-June... why is DC going to fair any better in June with a B-lister? Then you can look at even Begins and SR... both marquee brands... all falling short of their full potential in the month of June. The summer is too stacked at that time. May 20th is a MUCH better release date. The May 1st movie usually drops big the following weeks, and people were terribly disappointed with the way SM4 turned out. The sandwich film is usually irrelevant. Then it starts up again the third week of May with another huge film. Angels and Demons will get killed this weekend. Terminator will pick up the slack the following week. My only fear is another big franchise stepping in on the same day that Thor is currently slated for, but as of now Thor has a better release date than GL IMO.

As far as Cap, they are obviously banking on huge legs knowing that there will not be a mega-blockbuster film released that summer beyond that date. I'd have preferred July 1st for Cap, but the legs probably would have suffered a lot more. HP8 won't have great legs because it's the second part of a back to backer, which have struggled as of late.

mclay18
05-14-2009, 03:22 PM
June has been an awful release date for Marvel. FF2 pretty much bombed... TIH was basically a flop in mid-June... why is DC going to fair any better in June with a B-lister? Then you can look at even Begins and SR... both marquee brands... all falling short of their full potential in the month of June.

Batman Begins was a sleeper hit in June 2005, it came out with a somewhat disappointing $48 million opening weekend. However, it had incredible legs and positive word-of-mouth and it closed its domestic run with a robost $205 million gross. That's a solid performing movie released in June -- all of the WB live-action Batman movies until TDK were released in June and save for one, they all did terrifically well.

SR is more problematic. I wouldn't say it bombed with a healthy $200 million domestic haul, it was juxtaposed against the much more anticipated POTC 2 (which opened the week after) and the second weekend grosses dropped really bad. The bad thing is that Singer's overspending really cut into the potential profits (SR would've been a hit if $50-$70 million was shaved off the production budget) and now any hope for a sequel is stuck in development hell.

But with the June 2011 release date for GL, Warners has a clean slate to work with. Right now, it has no real competition from Marvel and there's no previous TV/movie incarnation to compare it to (like the FF or Hulk movies). Warners has it in a perfect position, a month before the final HP movie to generate awareness (and HP 7 will likely have a teaser trailer of GL too).

If HP8 didn't occupy the July 15 date, I'd say Warners should put GL there instead. Or even the first of May -- those two dates are prime b.o. real estate to start off the summer 2011 season.

dark_b
05-14-2009, 03:54 PM
i dont think the june date is perfect. cars 2 is coming after that.

RachelDawes
05-14-2009, 04:24 PM
^Unless GL is the last blockbuster of the summer released there's always going to be some big movie right on its heels.

dark_b
05-14-2009, 05:03 PM
^Unless GL is the last blockbuster of the summer released there's always going to be some big movie right on its heels.
true.

but i think if in december there is only one superhero movie then i think the chances are bigger. it stand out more. but thats me

Octoberist
05-14-2009, 05:04 PM
what's done is done. and we're gonna forget all about it by the end of the summer to boot. (Note: I'm not saying that we should stop discussing the delay since this is the delay thread afterall. I just think it'll pass.)

dark_b
05-14-2009, 05:10 PM
what's done is done. and we're gonna forget all about it by the end of the summer to boot. (Note: I'm not saying that we should stop discussing the delay since this is the delay thread afterall. I just think it'll pass.)its not so simple. we are on a forum. we will talk about it. :yay:

Octoberist
05-14-2009, 05:11 PM
and that's why i put my little note there. I'm not saying comment is absolute!

dark_b
05-14-2009, 05:49 PM
oki doki

FaT_tONle
05-14-2009, 06:49 PM
I do expect one more big film on July 1st or that Wednesday leading up to the 1st. So unless this opens crazy, like 60-70 million, I don't see it breaking 150 million.

dnno1
05-14-2009, 07:06 PM
I have a feeling that if the film is delayed, it would be because they do not want it to compete with the Harry Potter film being released in November and the Chronicles of Narnia Film scheduled for December of 2010. In my opinion, "Green Lantern" will stand a better chance against more than likely weaker films like "Thor" and "Captain America". Keep in mind that the WB did something similar with TDK and it swamped both "Iron Man" and "The Incredible Hulk" at the box office.

Octoberist
05-14-2009, 10:31 PM
it wouldn't really compete against Harry Potter because they're both owned by WB.

Chewy
05-14-2009, 11:07 PM
I have a feeling that if the film is delayed, it would be because they do not want it to compete with the Harry Potter film being released in November and the Chronicles of Narnia Film scheduled for December of 2010. In my opinion, "Green Lantern" will stand a better chance against more than likely weaker films like "Thor" and "Captain America". Keep in mind that the WB did something similar with TDK and it swamped both "Iron Man" and "The Incredible Hulk" at the box office.
What makes Thor and Captain America "likely weaker" films? There's very presumptive

And I guess we should ignore the fact that the Dark Knight was the sequel to a very popular film and there was a TON of buzz surrounding it due to its star's death. Green Lantern is inexactly the same position as TDK! :whatever:

protocida
05-14-2009, 11:10 PM
WB is planning something big for Green Lantern. It can be even better than The Dark Knight.

dnno1
05-15-2009, 12:49 AM
What makes Thor and Captain America "likely weaker" films? There's very presumptive

And I guess we should ignore the fact that the Dark Knight was the sequel to a very popular film and there was a TON of buzz surrounding it due to its star's death. Green Lantern is inexactly the same position as TDK! :whatever:

Because, "Captain America" failed as both a TV series and as a film over a decade ago. I don't expect it to be any different today (The Punisher proved that). In fact that whole idea of a hero who got his powers via steroids is not a good message to be sending to the public now that there is better knowledge of the downsides of it's use/abuse. As far as Thor goes, we will still have to see, but I doubt that the character will be as popular as their big three films (Spiderman, Wolverine, and Iron Man).

dnno1
05-15-2009, 12:53 AM
it wouldn't really compete against Harry Potter because they're both owned by WB.

Which is all the reason why you wouldn't want to have them compete against each other. Just imagine if they were a double feature, then they would split the profits. Having the film compete in a different season against different competitors from competing studios stands a chance to take fans away from the competitor (assuming your film is that good).

Octoberist
05-15-2009, 03:31 AM
even though it's a crowded summer, I don't think we should worry too much. I hope.

dark_b
05-15-2009, 08:47 AM
WB is planning something big for Green Lantern. It can be even better than The Dark Knight.how so? based on what? because you like Sam?

Dark Knight
05-15-2009, 01:46 PM
Batman Begins was a sleeper hit in June 2005, it came out with a somewhat disappointing $48 million opening weekend. However, it had incredible legs and positive word-of-mouth and it closed its domestic run with a robost $205 million gross. That's a solid performing movie released in June -- all of the WB live-action Batman movies until TDK were released in June and save for one, they all did terrifically well.

SR is more problematic. I wouldn't say it bombed with a healthy $200 million domestic haul, it was juxtaposed against the much more anticipated POTC 2 (which opened the week after) and the second weekend grosses dropped really bad. The bad thing is that Singer's overspending really cut into the potential profits (SR would've been a hit if $50-$70 million was shaved off the production budget) and now any hope for a sequel is stuck in development hell.

But with the June 2011 release date for GL, Warners has a clean slate to work with. Right now, it has no real competition from Marvel and there's no previous TV/movie incarnation to compare it to (like the FF or Hulk movies). Warners has it in a perfect position, a month before the final HP movie to generate awareness (and HP 7 will likely have a teaser trailer of GL too).

If HP8 didn't occupy the July 15 date, I'd say Warners should put GL there instead. Or even the first of May -- those two dates are prime b.o. real estate to start off the summer 2011 season.





Agreed, not alot of heavy competition in that June slot. Plus GL will be a mindblowing sci fi film with great effects and a solid and fun story with some drama of course.

Which big films should have the GL teaser and trailers attached to it though?

I was thinking Potter 7 in November 2010 for sure should have the full Trailer. What other big films are coming out in the November, December January slot for a full trailer to be attached? Maybe Bond 23?

With perhaps a Teaser(s) needing to be attached to the releases of Shrek 4, Prince of Persia, and Robin Hood in May 2010 and then Toy Story 3 in June 2010. The teaser would also be attached to Jonah Hex in August 2010 of that same summer.

RachelDawes
05-15-2009, 02:45 PM
WB is planning something big for Green Lantern. It can be even better than The Dark Knight.

I doubt it. GL could definitely be more fun but I don't see how it'll match TDK's depth. I think it could be 2011's IM or ST though, and that would make me perfectly happy.

protocida
05-15-2009, 04:02 PM
how so? based on what? because you like Sam?
What? :huh:

Sam's not even cast yet.

I say that based on the fact that it is my opinion.

Dark Knight
05-15-2009, 04:47 PM
I think a Super Bowl spot would be an ideal time to show the GL trailer as well in Februrary.

Octoberist
05-15-2009, 06:26 PM
WB is planning something big for Green Lantern. It can be even better than The Dark Knight.

The Dark Knight was an anomaly; it probably won't be touched for a long time. It's one of those that just happens to capture the imagination of the public. There's theories about it, but no one can deny that it's a one of kind thing.

To be realistic, I think Green Lantern's quality has to be on par with Iron Man. Now, I'm not worried about the action or visual effects because Martin Campbell is solid. I'm worried about the script and I hope that it's drastically improved since the fairly solid 1st draft.

RachelDawes
05-15-2009, 06:28 PM
Agreed, not alot of heavy competition in that June slot. Plus GL will be a mindblowing sci fi film with great effects and a solid and fun story with some drama of course.

Which big films should have the GL teaser and trailers attached to it though?

I was thinking Potter 7 in November 2010 for sure should have the full Trailer. What other big films are coming out in the November, December January slot for a full trailer to be attached? Maybe Bond 23?

With perhaps a Teaser(s) needing to be attached to the releases of Shrek 4, Prince of Persia, and Robin Hood in May 2010 and then Toy Story 3 in June 2010. The teaser would also be attached to Jonah Hex in August 2010 of that same summer.

Thinking about teasers and trailers makes me smile. I can't wait till this starts filming. It'll be the first movie I've followed from the beginning.

mclay18
05-15-2009, 07:08 PM
Which is all the reason why you wouldn't want to have them compete against each other. Just imagine if they were a double feature, then they would split the profits. Having the film compete in a different season against different competitors from competing studios stands a chance to take fans away from the competitor (assuming your film is that good).

I actually think the release dates of GL and the two-part final movie of HP7 is good for synergy and awareness on WB's part. HP7.1 is still slated to come out November next year, which will almost certainly have a teaser attached for GL. Then when GL comes out June 2011, it'll have the full trailer for HP7.2 attached to bring in fans.

Teasers for really big movies don't really come out until like six months before the release. WB's done that with BB, TDK, HP5, SR, heck all of their big summer tentpoles have followed the tradition of a Nov/Dec teaser debut and a full trailer in late spring.

I'd expect a GL teaser to be attached to Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part One (11/19/2010) or at the very latest, The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (12/10/2010). The full trailer should be attached to a mid-March 2011 release -- Sucker Punch, maybe?

protocida
05-16-2009, 12:51 PM
I can see a teaser with Jonah Hex, a trailer with Harry Potter and the Deadly Hallows and a 2 trailer with Sucker Punch. Maybe a 3 trailer in between? Inception, perhaps?

Dark Knight
05-16-2009, 03:17 PM
I can see a teaser with Jonah Hex, a trailer with Harry Potter and the Deadly Hallows and a 2 trailer with Sucker Punch. Maybe a 3 trailer in between? Inception, perhaps?






I think WB's needs to try really hard to get a 30-60 second Teaser out with some of those big summer films of 2010 to get that exposure to as many movie audiences as possible.

They are scheduled to start filming GL in late October or November, so thats gives Campbell a good 5-6 months of filming to have a minor teaser that would not need a whole lot of footage anyway to be shown with summer films in June possibly and for the films in July and August for sure. Inception and Suckerpunch should most definitely have the teaser attached. Of course a sneek peak of extended footage that is different from the theatrical teaser should be shown for the folks at the 2010 Comic Con with Berlanti, Guggenheim, Green, perhaps Campbell and perhaps Worthington (if he is cast) and one or two other cast members. Since most the shooting will be taking place in "Aussie Land", some of the above like Campbell may not be able to make it, but I'm sure Berlanti, Green and Guggenheim will want to make it to S.D. along with some of the actors possibly. Promotion and marketing should top notch and fun for the GL film at the Comic-Con. Some ideas I have is for marketing and promotion folks to pass out GL rings for the people to wear all weekend long and perhaps some cool T-Shirts with the words "Don't be a Poozer"! on the back and in the front the green lantern symbol. The shirts should be come in white, green and black.

Then the first full length theatrical trailer can be shown for Potter in November and along with some of the other big holiday films. A Super Bowl spot is a must in Februrary IMO. Then another new full and perhaps final trailer can be shown for the March and May films before the GL release in June.

I hope WB's doesn't take the conservative approach when it comes to promoting this film, it would be a mistake.

dnno1
05-16-2009, 05:36 PM
I'm telling you right now. Their best opportunity was to put a teaser poster (that's all) in the theaters for the release of "Star Trek" and they didn't do that. This is troubling to me.

Blackman
05-16-2009, 05:38 PM
Why make a poster when they had no idea on the cast? And whats the big deal about putting the posters with Star Trek

dnno1
05-16-2009, 05:45 PM
Why make a poster when they had no idea on the cast? And whats the big deal about putting the posters with Star Trek

http://th01.deviantart.com/fs16/300W/i/2007/184/4/b/Green_Lantern_Teaser_I_by_Gaff1229.jpg

You just answered your question. Green Lantern is a space based science fiction as well as a comic book superhero film. It would be in your best interest to try to lure in Star Trek fans. Knowing that you don't have a cast, a teaser poster would have helped.

Blackman
05-16-2009, 05:50 PM
I mean I'm pretty sure GL can have its own success without piggybacking off Star Trek.

RachelDawes
05-16-2009, 06:27 PM
I'm telling you right now. Their best opportunity was to put a teaser poster (that's all) in the theaters for the release of "Star Trek" and they didn't do that. This is troubling to me.

I don't think a simple teaser poster would've generated much buzz, except among fanboys for maybe a couple of days.

mclay18
05-16-2009, 08:28 PM
I can see a teaser with Jonah Hex, a trailer with Harry Potter and the Deadly Hallows and a 2 trailer with Sucker Punch. Maybe a 3 trailer in between? Inception, perhaps?

GL is going to be one of the most CGI reliant superhero films, so it's going to take a while for those visual effects houses to fully render them. If Warners wants to go that route, when GL starts shooting in November the visual effects houses will have to start work immediately in order to get enough decent CGI shots in the first few trailers.

I can't see a full 2-minute trailer for GL in November 2010 unless Warners plans on finishing GL by the original Christmas date and sit on it for the next six months (a la Star Trek or HP6).

protocida
05-16-2009, 10:31 PM
They could do like Transformers. A teaser-trailer with quick shots, and only two money shots (Scorponok attack and Ironhide coming out of the pool) semi-finished.

Webhead2006
05-16-2009, 11:00 PM
I think WB's needs to try really hard to get a 30-60 second Teaser out with some of those big summer films of 2010 to get that exposure to as many movie audiences as possible.

They are scheduled to start filming GL in late October or November, so thats gives Campbell a good 5-6 months of filming to have a minor teaser that would not need a whole lot of footage anyway to be shown with summer films in June possibly and for the films in July and August for sure. Inception and Suckerpunch should most definitely have the teaser attached. Of course a sneek peak of extended footage that is different from the theatrical teaser should be shown for the folks at the 2010 Comic Con with Berlanti, Guggenheim, Green, perhaps Campbell and perhaps Worthington (if he is cast) and one or two other cast members. Since most the shooting will be taking place in "Aussie Land", some of the above like Campbell may not be able to make it, but I'm sure Berlanti, Green and Guggenheim will want to make it to S.D. along with some of the actors possibly. Promotion and marketing should top notch and fun for the GL film at the Comic-Con. Some ideas I have is for marketing and promotion folks to pass out GL rings for the people to wear all weekend long and perhaps some cool T-Shirts with the words "Don't be a Poozer"! on the back and in the front the green lantern symbol. The shirts should be come in white, green and black.

Then the first full length theatrical trailer can be shown for Potter in November and along with some of the other big holiday films. A Super Bowl spot is a must in Februrary IMO. Then another new full and perhaps final trailer can be shown for the March and May films before the GL release in June.

I hope WB's doesn't take the conservative approach when it comes to promoting this film, it would be a mistake.


I hope it all goes well and that is a good plan.

protocida
05-16-2009, 11:08 PM
:up:

dnno1
05-17-2009, 01:48 AM
I don't think a simple teaser poster would've generated much buzz, except among fanboys for maybe a couple of days.

Well... this one sure did create some buzz:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/wonderwomanposter.jpg

... and even though this was actually in a film, it created some buzz:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/iamlegendposters1.jpg
Green Lantern and Teen Titans posters in the film "I am Legend"

But actually, that is not necessarily the point. Teaser posters are actually used to stir intrest in a film, especially to those who don't know much about the subject matter. Placing it in theaters now would have had existing fans psyched, but Star Trek fans who don't know about Green Lantern asking the qustion "Who is that?", which is a sign of interest. This is what makes sense to me and what the WB should have done. Now I question how serious they really are about making money with this franchise.

Jake Cassidy
05-17-2009, 01:55 AM
The Dark Knight was an anomaly; it probably won't be touched for a long time. It's one of those that just happens to capture the imagination of the public. There's theories about it, but no one can deny that it's a one of kind thing.

To be realistic, I think Green Lantern's quality has to be on par with Iron Man. Now, I'm not worried about the action or visual effects because Martin Campbell is solid. I'm worried about the script and I hope that it's drastically improved since the fairly solid 1st draft.

I hate to say this but The Dark Knight would not be as big as it is if Heath Ledger was still alive.

Webhead2006
05-17-2009, 02:16 PM
yea alot think that it probably would have only made half of what it did.

RachelDawes
05-17-2009, 02:48 PM
yea alot think that it probably would have only made half of what it did.

Half? Doubtful. I suspect TDK made as much as it did due to repeat viewings, and people don't go watch a movie two or three times just to see an actor's last performance unless they're hysterical fans.

protocida
05-17-2009, 02:51 PM
I also think it would have earned less. Not much, but definetily less.

RachelDawes
05-17-2009, 03:13 PM
I also think it would have earned less. Not much, but definetily less.

Probably. Ledger's death definitely had an impact at the BO, but not $500 million worth.

griffolyon12
05-17-2009, 04:25 PM
I see Thor flopping.
I agree, it has nothing to do with the quality of the film, just more to do with the fact that majority of the casual filmgoing public could care less about a Thor film, which with big budget ventures, they are the most important part of the audience.