What Do You Hope Has Changed Since the 1st Draft of the Script

[Blackman]

Lemme just start off by saying. As a whole I am very happy with the first draft. I thought it was funny and overall pretty well written. But there are a few things I would add or change.



More w/ Hal's family. There was that great scene at Hal's nephew's birthday party. When Hal and his mom have that great exchange where he disrespects his dad, she slaps him, and then she asks "How did I raise somebody so selfish", and then he says "I became this way by myself". But then after that the whole mom angle died off. She doesnt need to be a huge role but I would just like more scenes like that
A John Stewart cameo
More Kilowag
This is really unspecific and vague. But I would like a little bit more of an epic space police feel. I always imagine GL as the Star Wars of the DC universe. But for some reason the script had more of a popcorn feel to it. Nothing wrong with that except I always wanted it to be more than a popcorn movie.

[batlovescatDC]

Although I haven't read any of the first draft and I don't really want to, I do understand from others that we don't really see Sinestro's evil side. I would like them to show atleast a really good glimpse at it. I think that in order to establish Sinestro's role as Hal's "Darth Vader" you have to see him as a bad guy from the very first film and onwards.

[protocida]

Who told you that? :huh:

Sinestro's evil side is totally foreshadowed. I'd say that they leave no question he'll be trouble in future installements.

[Octoberist]

again, while it worked in the script I don't know how it will play out in the movie: Hal earns the trust of the Corp by fighting off Legion, and then they all fly off to save Earth from Hector Hammond.

I can see it working but at the same time, Hector is small pickin' if you compare him to Legion; it's like a down grade. If they could tie them together somehow..maybe Legion escapes from Oa and wants to go to earth because of Hector (who has Legion in him). I don't know.

[protocida]

Agreed. It makes more sense for Hal to first fight the spawn (Hector), then the creature itself (Legion).

[Octoberist]

I think they need to find a way to lure Legion to Earth somehow. It just ties everything together nicely.

BTW, here's a nice interview with the writers of the script. It pretty much says that they're done with the latest draft and now they're revising the budget due to certain scenes (cutting them out or down playing them)

http://www.newsarama.com/film/050911-GL-Latest.html

[Changeling]

Definitely the Hector scenes. He wasnt fully developed IMO. And they should fight off Hammond first, then Legion.

[Octoberist]

yeah, Hector seems such a bugger compared to Legion.

[Blackman]

I agree with the Hector/Legion thing

[Webhead2006]

what if the legion/hector fights where switched?

[Octoberist]

i think the point of the Hector fight was to show that Hal can beat the bad guys by being brave and fearless on his own, and saving Carol. it's a more intimate fight but it was overshadowed by the Legion fight. If they manage to merge the two, then that would be great.

All and all, Hector can be a fun villain, but he's strictly a B level villain in my eyes.

SO they NEED to stress out that if they don't stop Hector, he will become another Legion spawn. So gives the rest of the Corps a bigger sense of urgency to help Hal (not just payback). I know that they are all suppose to help out every planet in their district (like cops), but by connecting Hector to Legion MORE, the stakes are higher for the CORP.

[Lobo]

I want Hector further developed, and the fight scenes switched, Hammond first, and the last battle which should be the biggest against Legion. ther than that I'm VERY happy with it. Not too worried about dialogue as tha always changes for the better in the final product.

[Doctor Jones]

Hector needs to be worked on the most. Give him a stronger story other than being a whiney revenge seeking ***** who can't get acceptance from his father.

[Blackman]

SO they NEED to stress out that if they don't stop Hector, he will become another Legion spawn. So gives the rest of the Corps a bigger sense of urgency to help Hal (not just payback). I know that they are all suppose to help out every planet in their district (like cops), but by connecting Hector to Legion MORE, the stakes are higher for the CORP.

thats actually a great way to make Hector more epic without switching the fights:applaud

Hector needs to be worked on the most. Give him a stronger story other than being a whiney revenge seeking ***** who can't get acceptance from his father.
I actually liked the whole father angle, but that one scene where it is like you read my brain but not my heart is straight corny. THey should take that out

[protocida]

Sometimes I feel Hector should be writen off. If not him, the father subplot (The Smithsonian match is great, tough). He just seems... there. :csad:

We can only hope Geoff Johns (The man that redefined Hector) contribuitions and the 127 pages 3° draft change that.

I'd also be happy if they focused a little bit more on the Emotional Spectrum.

And, off course, I'd be happy if they fixed some small nipticks, like Legion being Tchkk-Tchkk, Tom being a mechanic, Jim's son being called Howard, Martin's nickname being "Martini" and etc.

[The Guard]

Hector's use needs to explore alien themes, not "daddy issues".

[Octoberist]

i agree because he seems to be a hurdle for Hal than a real villain.

[TheVileOne]

I'd like it if Legion had a character like in the comics.

Some of the other Corp. members need characters besides Sinestro. Like Kilowag.

[Octoberist]

I'm sure that they beefed up the roles of Kilowag for sure. For some odd reason, they gave Tomar (fish head chicken dude) a bigger role than Kilowag in the script. I hope that changes not because I want to see less of Fishhead but just to even the playing field.

[LeperMessiah]

Does anyone here have the script with them?

If you do, would you mind sending it to me? I'd love to get a look at it.

[Webhead2006]

we cant do that any more with the leaked first draft.

[protocida]

Characters:

Hal Jordan - I'd like to see more of Hal's "tough guy" side, showing how fearless he really is. I'd also like to see how family is important to him, especially the father, and how he are his relations with his mother (Who's alive), his brothers, his nephew, etc... And I'd like if some of his more slap-stick quips we're replaced by Hal's classical sarcastic one-liners. More "Insurance is not gonna pay for this" and less "Oh, man! That's such a waste" upon seeing his trashed car.

Carol Ferris - Carol is one of the most remarkable femele characters of the DC history, and I'd like to see more of that. Her storyline is pretty much her troubled relationship with Hal and her trying to sell the Sabre jets. The plot we're she's secretly running Ferris Aircraft upon her father's coma would fit perfectly in this, and would add more to her as character.

Tom Kalmuka - Tom is written as a over-the-top mid-20s Nerd. It's not that big of a deviation from the comics, but it can get toned down (No calling Hal in the middle of the night to say he beat Halo 3, No sadness because his videogame aliens seem like rip-offs know he has seen new ones, and etc.). He should be funny, but more responsible, as he is the Comics. I'd also like to have him as a mechanic instead of a computer programmer, but that's not that big of a deal.

Hector Hammond - Hector is a great character, but he seems kinda throwed in the Script to have an Earth-based villain. He's kinda unconsistent (One hour, he loves having powers, the next one, he says they've ruinned his life). He has great creepy/fun moments (His exchange with the congressman in the party is funny. :hehe:), but his storyline is kinda forced (He basicly bullies everyone arround him and seeks for his father's aproval). The mind-reading is good, but kinda conventional (He only decides to read peoples minds when they're thinking bad things about he). His connection with Legion is good, but I tough how it was worked was kinda dumb ("OK, Mr. Hammond, we found an dead alien, and we couldn't find any other legists, despite that we're a governmental organ, so, we're going to pick you because your father's a Senator, even tough you're just an FBI legist and kind of a prick..."). I think they should focus more on the "super-bully" aspect of him hurting people only because, well, it's fun, and less in the Father aspect. I'd also like to establish a better parallel between him and Hal than the Father angle (They could focus on the fact they're both avarage guys who, in the blink of an eye, are blessed with extraordinary powers, and how their different creations unfluence in their ways of using it, or the fact they're the encapsulation of the Willpower (Green) VS. Fear (Yellow) battle).

Helen Jordan - They kept Hal's mother alive in the Script, but didn't used far more than just a quick discussion and a slap. She being alive adds a whole more of dramatical matter to be used, and they misssed this good chance.

Jack Jordan - I'd like to see more of him, but since the movie is alredy pretty overcrowded, I understant why's he's a almost-cameo.

Jim Jordan - He's more featured in the Script than Jack, but they kinda switched their personalities. Jim is older than Hal, and it's not as "by-the-book" as the comics. He reminds me of Two and a Half Men's Alan, actually. :hehe:

Nathan Jordan - Hal's nephew. His name is Howard is the comics, but I think they changed to make him "cooler". He's not bad (Great interaction between him and Hal), but he get's kinda annoying when he becomes a GL fanboy.

Carl Ferris - I liked Carl's portrayal. Wouldn't change anything. :yay:

Senator Robert Hammond - Hector's father. Hector desperatily searches for his approval, but he's too much of a dissapointment for Robert. He's essencially a good supporting character, but his final line :hehe: ...

Jenna - Hot yoga instructor. I like. :woot:

Mothef***ing huge boyfriend - Funny. I'd laugh if he's credited like that in the movie. :hehe:

Vanessa - Hector's assistent. OK character. :up:

John Broome - Hector's FBI boss. It's a classic "tough guy" who becomes Hector's human puppet because of the hard time he gave him before he gained powers. Good characters, but his final line... :eek:

[protocida]

Pipe - Badass. Would only change why he calls Hector for the Operation.

Sinestro - GREAT character. Sinestro got a top-notch development. I'd only tone down some of his outbursts and make REALLY hard to believe he's going to become evil. It's kinda evident in the Script.

Kilowog - GREAT character. Kilowog was also :up: portrayed. I only wished he had more screentime. Oh, and it's Hippo-like, not Rhino-Like.

Tomar-Re - Great character. Is more present then Kilowog! But they sorta mixed him with Salaak personality-wise.

Abin Sur - GREAT character. One of the best portrayas of the Script. Loved him. It would be cool if Amon appeared in his funeral. :yay:

Legion - Legion is a badass villain (His action scenes are :wow:), but I didn't liked how they put him in the Manhunter's AND Parallax place (Which is unnecessary, when whe get a Parallax nod lather on). The Tchkk-Tchkk storyline was pretty good. But seeing how it wraps everything together really nicely, I'm not against it. He's kinda like the Pirates of the Carribean Kraken. I like it. :woot:

The Guardians - The writers nailed the Guardians. They're perfect. I like how they talk threw tellepaty, like an Hive-Mind. I only wish we'd see Ganthed, but he can show up later on. :woot:

Those are my opinions. A+ Script.

[protocida]

I'm sure that they beefed up the roles of Kilowag for sure. For some odd reason, they gave Tomar (fish head chicken dude) a bigger role than Kilowag in the script. I hope that changes not because I want to see less of Fishhead but just to even the playing field.
I also want more Kilowog.

[Webhead2006]

hopefully man.

[Chris B]

Even though the odds of it are slim, I would like it they dropped Legion in favor of the Manhunters.

I never read the script so I'm going off of what has been mentioned in the various reviews, but Sinestro betraying the Corps at the end of the film and Salaak being added would be two other things I wouldn't mind.

[protocida]

Sinestro betraying the Corps
No.

Salaak being added
Yes.

[NewAvenger4]

never read it here is what i want anyway(by reading the script form i know what i want)
-salaak
-more kiliwog
-hal is alone when he finds the ring
-john stewart as a supporting character(no cameo)
-atroticus being abin surs killer
-more of hals family
more later
btw protica-what is the parallax nod?

[protocida]

Hal uses the rings of the dead Green Lanterns to destroy the Central Battery, absorbe it's power and shoot it directly at Legion, destroying him at last. Hal falls back to the ground, and, as the GLs, assuming he's dead, go to recover the body, they find him alive, but with grey temples on his hair, indicating that, when he absorved the Battery's power, he also absorved Parallax, but, unlike the energy, Parallax is still in his body. Growing.

[NewAvenger4]

grey temples? nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

thanks btw

[Octoberist]

but the grey temples is such a old pre-Geoff Johns idea (re: dated) that I would say nay to that. I know the script uses Legion and Emerald Dawn as its basis, but unless they do Paralax, don't do it.

[Webhead2006]

ya i dont think they will end up using paralax stuff. maybe allured to the character out their so if in a sequel they want to use the character they dont have to have it come out of the blue. As for what is different in the script now hopefully the fixed the problems with hector and legion switched fights around and made both better threats.

[KangConquers]

- More Kilowog
- More Tomar Re
- More Legion (make him the primary villain)
- More of Hal's Family
- Less Hector Hammond (make him the secondary villain)
- Less Thomas Kalmaku (He's not that interesting of a supporting character. I'd cut way back on the number of lines he has.)


I'd have Hal take care of Hector early on, and have the finale be about the corps vs. Legion.

[Octoberist]

They need to find a way to tie in Hector to Legion a little bit more. Or have Legion somehow come to earth; maybe Hector can be a beacon since he has a piece of Legion in him, thus forcing the Corps to come to Earth to defeat the two.

[KangConquers]

They need to find a way to tie in Hector to Legion a little bit more. Or have Legion somehow come to earth; maybe Hector can be a beacon since he has a piece of Legion in him, thus forcing the Corps to come to Earth to defeat the two.

Brilliant.

[protocida]

I'm not a big fan of the idea, but could be.

[Octoberist]

Well..I mean, you can't have them fight Legion THEN fight Hector. The Corps could destroy Hector in a matter of seconds (read Secret Orgins) so you need to detract them a bit rather than just dealing with robot controlled jets and damage done by them.

[protocida]

Well...
Those were some pretty nasty Jets. :hehe:

Kidding. I know what you're saying. :cwink:

[Octoberist]

haha.

I'm sure they'll clean up the third act. It's kinda hard because the Corps is so big and yet, you want to include them in the final battle. But the final battles has to be big and relevant. If it was irrelevant, then Hal would fight alone.

[protocida]

But it makes sense. Remember what Sinestro said?

"Legion was in your space sector. If any piece of him was left behind, it'll ravage your world like a cancer."

Hector was a big threat. But not as big as Legion. That's why the order of the fights seem off.

How about this: Only a group of Green Lanterns (Hal Jordan, Sinestro, Kilowog, Tomar-Re and (hopefully) Salaak) goes back Earth and fights Hector after defeating Legion. The odds get higher this way.

[Octoberist]

I understand that, but I think they need to stress that out a bit. And cinematic wise, if it's Legion first than Hector, then it might be underwhelming for the general audience.

[Jeeyell]

I hope I'm remembering this right but he was summoned by Abin Sur when he was in his car? Well I prefer the flight simulator instead.

[Octoberist]

yeah, the car was so so but I can see why they used it.

The Flight Simulator happened when Carol and the crew was around, so they would have to explain that. The car happened at night with Hal by himself, so it was easier to write for, I suppose.

[Jeeyell]

yeah, the car was so so but I can see why they used it.

The Flight Simulator happened when Carol and the crew was around, so they would have to explain that. The car happened at night with Hal by himself, so it was easier to write for, I suppose.


Yeah that's true. It'd also require a big rewrite for that whole scene. But that's just a minor nitpick for me.

[Doctor Jones]

I liked the car. It made it more secretive for Hal. And it was a time he was put down so going from that to the desert was a nice fit.

[Octoberist]

after the leaked footage of Iron Man 2 came out, I liked how the humor still intergrated into the dialog, thus pushing the scene forward and letting the story progress naturally.

So I hoping that the 'humor' in Green Lantern can capture the same tone of playfulness without being too sitcom-like, which is what the first draft is filled with.

[Webhead2006]

hopefully so octoberist.

[Doctor Jones]

Agreed. And hopefully they don't try to copy IM's sense of humor. Atl east Reynolds is a capable comic and actor and unlike RDJ so that could help.

[Octoberist]

yeah. Well, what I meant was that I want the humor to be funny and clever enough, that it doesn't appear to be too sitcomy..which was what the humor in the script was..

[Webhead2006]

I am sure campbell will be able to mix comedy and drama together.