View Full Version : Ryan Reynolds "actively" working on Deadpool spinoff
Ace of Knaves
05-31-2009, 06:47 AM
Reynolds finally talks about the Deadpool movie. Sounds very promising.
http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-5-30-breaking-ryan-reynolds-actively-working-on-deadpool-spinoff
MessiahDecoy123
05-31-2009, 06:52 AM
Not sure he Reynolds can carry a movie with just his voice like Hugo Weaving did in V for Vendetta.
Ace of Knaves
05-31-2009, 06:53 AM
Well it wouldn't just be his voice. It would be his actions, his humour. He has the perfect wit to play Deadpool.
This is great news. Reynolds says it's gonna be accurate to the comics, if that's true, then it will be immense.
The Guard
05-31-2009, 11:36 AM
WOLVERINE was supposed to be "accurate to the comics" as well. Hollywood types have a different measure of accuracy. Hope for the best, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Ace of Knaves
05-31-2009, 11:38 AM
Yea but Reynolds isn't your standard Hollywood type. That's why I have hope. If he is actually involved in the making of the story and all that, and he has a decent amount of influence on the production then it will be great.
And he has also said before that if he was to do a stand alone Deadpool flick he would only do it if it was accurate to the source material.
S. Grundy
05-31-2009, 03:00 PM
And then again it's 20th Century Fox, they are seemingly incapable of doing a genre picture without ****ing it up in some way. The biggest reason the Singer X-Men movies were as good as they were was because he wasn't a push over.
AVEITWITHJAMON
05-31-2009, 05:07 PM
^Exactly, whoever they get to direct this needs to have some balls and be able to say 'no' to Fox. I cant see this flick being too high-budgeted though so they may have more freedom.
CaptainStacy
05-31-2009, 06:29 PM
WOLVERINE was supposed to be "accurate to the comics" as well. Hollywood types have a different measure of accuracy. Hope for the best, but I'll believe it when I see it.
co-signed. :up:
Project862006
05-31-2009, 07:30 PM
i trust Ryan more than Hugh Ryan actually read the comics because he loved them not because he was auditioning for a movie
Eh. I don't know..
I'll tell you what I think when I get to see the workprint.. I mean, the movie. If they ever make it..
Spider-Vader
05-31-2009, 08:22 PM
^Exactly, whoever they get to direct this needs to have some balls and be able to say 'no' to Fox. I cant see this flick being too high-budgeted though so they may have more freedom.
The only man Fox is afraid of is James Cameron. The only reason X1 was like 90 minutes was because of "good" ol' Fox.
If Reynolds drops out of this movie, I'm immediately boycotting it.
devil dinosaur
06-01-2009, 04:25 AM
I know I probably shouldn't get my hopes up about this film, but it's hard not too when you have such an awesome character being used, and a guy like Reynolds helping steer it.
If Reynolds drops out of this movie, I'm immediately boycotting it.
Seconded.
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 04:27 AM
Yea, no Reynolds, no movie for me.
Maybe we can get BURT Reynolds..?
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 04:30 AM
Burt Reynolds should play his father :up:
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 08:22 AM
Another new interview with Reynolds.
http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/988/988457p2.html
IGN: Lastly…Your message to fans who are concerned about Deadpool, those who only got a glimpse of you –
REYNOLDS: And I wasn't even the Deadpool that they knew.
IGN: Exactly…What would be your message to them to assuage their fears about the upcoming movie?
REYNOLDS: If they can imagine if one of them were given the opportunity to do a Deadpool movie, just imagine that's what's happening. Just to have faith in that. And to have faith in the studio. It's hard for fans to do that, but I feel like they really want to do an authentic Deadpool movie….He's like Jason Bourne meets Phantom of the Opera by way of Caddyshack. And that, right there, is a wholly originally character, and that's what excites the dark overlords who fund this film. And me.
Retroman
06-01-2009, 08:34 AM
i trust Ryan more than Hugh Ryan actually read the comics because he loved them not because he was auditioning for a movie
Reynolds seems to have the best intentions at heart for Deadpool but i doubt he'll be given the kind of control Hugh Jackman had on Wolverine. It really depends on who they hire to direct/write and whether the studio will give them the space to make the best adaptation they can possibly make without all sorts of weird parameters.:o
The Guard
06-01-2009, 10:12 AM
Yea but Reynolds isn't your standard Hollywood type.
Really?
How isn't he?
kane9321
06-01-2009, 10:30 AM
WOLVERINE was supposed to be accurate to the comics....and that movie was Crap
Iron_Stark
06-01-2009, 10:47 AM
What villain or villains would Deadpool be fighting?
Donnie Darko
06-01-2009, 10:52 AM
I think Fox will see that Deadpool isn't the cash cow that Wolverine is. He isn't going to bring an audience in based on his name alone. A large percentage of a Deadpool movie's gross would come from real comic book fans and their positive word of mouth. The rest would come from people seeing the trailer and being like "oh ****, that looks awesome." So, while he doesn't have the recognition of Iron Man, I put Deadpool kind of in the same boat where he has to prove himself in the film arena. Having Ryan Reynolds (the top fanboy choice, even moreso than Bale for Batman) in the title role is a great start. Now they have to make a movie based on what makes Deadpool awesome, not what makes someone like Wolverine or another hero cool.
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 12:22 PM
Really?
How isn't he?
Because he doesn't seem like a arsehole. Just read or watch all his interviews, he's just a standard guy who has a great career, and he knows this. He regularly takes the piss out of those typical Hollywood types who go to The Ivy then complain about paparazzi. I think he said exactly that in one of his interviews.
The fact is, he isn't Brett Ratner or anyone like that who would deliberately dupe his fans.
drmick
06-01-2009, 12:23 PM
I think Fox will see that Deadpool isn't the cash cow that Wolverine is. He isn't going to bring an audience in based on his name alone. A large percentage of a Deadpool movie's gross would come from real comic book fans and their positive word of mouth. The rest would come from people seeing the trailer and being like "oh ****, that looks awesome." So, while he doesn't have the recognition of Iron Man, I put Deadpool kind of in the same boat where he has to prove himself in the film arena. Having Ryan Reynolds (the top fanboy choice, even moreso than Bale for Batman) in the title role is a great start. Now they have to make a movie based on what makes Deadpool awesome, not what makes someone like Wolverine or another hero cool.
That usually means an A-Lister for the villain.
Who are Deadpool's main villains in the comics? Any famous characters?
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 12:25 PM
I think Fox will see that Deadpool isn't the cash cow that Wolverine is. He isn't going to bring an audience in based on his name alone. A large percentage of a Deadpool movie's gross would come from real comic book fans and their positive word of mouth. The rest would come from people seeing the trailer and being like "oh ****, that looks awesome." So, while he doesn't have the recognition of Iron Man, I put Deadpool kind of in the same boat where he has to prove himself in the film arena. Having Ryan Reynolds (the top fanboy choice, even moreso than Bale for Batman) in the title role is a great start. Now they have to make a movie based on what makes Deadpool awesome, not what makes someone like Wolverine or another hero cool.
Exactly. I think, going by what Reynolds says in that latest interview, that even the studio are realizing that the sole reason Deadpool is worthy of a movie, is because he is so unique. There is no point of just turning him into a loud mouth action hero, because there is already too many of them. The only way this movie has a chance of being popular and successful, is because Deadpool is completely unique.
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 12:27 PM
That usually means an A-Lister for the villain.
Who are Deadpool's main villains in the comics? Any famous characters?
Not really. Bullseye is probably the most recognizable, and he isn't even really a villain for Deadpool. You could have Kingpin in there if Deadpool is gonna be doing merc jobs for someone.
lou2099
06-01-2009, 12:41 PM
If ever made, it's the makings of a bomb. Deadpool isn't a draw, Ryan Reynolds isn't a draw.
For those who will cite Blade as an unknown comic book character with a success rate, yes, that is some hope to fall back on. Keep in mind though, Blade 3 was not a hit, it was not good like the first two, and guess what...it had Ryan Reynolds.
The future doesn't bode well for the Merc With A Mouth.
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 12:48 PM
Who cares if it is not a hit?
I'd never expect a Deadpool movie to be a mid summer blockbuster anyway. They won't make this movie to be a mid summer blockbuster. I think if it is done right, it would be brilliant, but yea it probably wouldn't have major box office success, but that doesn't really matter to me. I'm not one of the people who needs their favourite film validated by big numbers at the box office. It'll probably be a cult film, like how Watchmen will be, and have big Blu-Ray/DVD sales.
And anyway, don't underestimate Deadpool. He's one of the top selling Marvel books out there at the moment. He's getting a second ongoing, multiple cross-overs and one shots. Marvel is making a concerted effort to get his name out there.
Spidey 2007
06-01-2009, 12:53 PM
As long as its a good movie, it will be a hit, even if its opening weekend is 100 dollars, people can find out about the movie, and its 4th weekend it could be number one.
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 12:55 PM
Yea it honestly doesn't matter to me.
But all comic book fans should be glad about this movie. It's about time a character who has remained in the shadows gets a movie, rather than just your Spidermans and Batmans and what not. Deadpool is a truly unique character, there is no one else out there like him, that is what I think would be the main appeal of his movie. I think it would be like a breath of fresh air to the comic book movie industry. A much need satire but still a serious movie, not flat out spoof.
lou2099
06-01-2009, 12:57 PM
If Paul Blart Mall Cop was a hit, I guess Wade Wilson: Mall Merc can do better.
Octoberist
06-01-2009, 01:20 PM
Because Fox is involved, I really don't know.
Like X3 and Wolverine, I dont a movie that has GREAT IDEAS but rushed through them, with pointless cameos.
drmick
06-01-2009, 01:35 PM
I wouldn't mind something along the lines of Wanted in terms of action and atmosphere.
It's probably going to take something like that for success. Good action, done without CGI, and a strong ensemble of actors.
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 01:36 PM
Yea they don't need to make it a big budget blockbuster. You could make it for under 100 million EASILY.
lou2099
06-01-2009, 02:35 PM
Yea they don't need to make it a big budget blockbuster. You could make it for under 100 million EASILY.
It could be done for under 20 million. Deadpool should be recession-proofed.
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 02:36 PM
Well hopefully the recession isn't still going on in 2-3 years time!!
lou2099
06-01-2009, 02:48 PM
Well hopefully the recession isn't still going on in 2-3 years time!!There's a better chance of this movie getting made than the recession ending by then:csad:.
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 03:03 PM
So you still think this movie won't be made?
Spider-ManHero12
06-01-2009, 03:17 PM
Sounds awesome! :up:
FaT_tONle
06-01-2009, 04:40 PM
Who cares if it is not a hit?
I'd never expect a Deadpool movie to be a mid summer blockbuster anyway. They won't make this movie to be a mid summer blockbuster.
Yeah I am thinking a February-April 2012 release would be about right for this project.
Doctor Jones
06-01-2009, 05:00 PM
God I hope they do it right. So far I like what I hear. But in the back of my head I keep coming to "It's FOX!"
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 05:07 PM
Yea that lingering feeling is still there.
But with the way Reynolds is talking, it seems he actually has some creative input on this project, and that is very good news.
And maybe, just maybe Fox realize that the only way this character can work and be popular, is if he is the tragic, yet insanely violent and humorous Deadpool from the comics. I mean, he is so unique that is THE selling point. He's a completely out of the ordinary character. No one is gonna give a toss about another loud mouth action hero, there needs to be more than that.
E-Man
06-01-2009, 06:05 PM
I used to be excited at this movie's potential, but that was before I saw Wolverine. The movie wasn't as terrible as some people say, but it wasn't good either. It was a really harsh reminder of how bad Fox is. They can't seem to do something without doing something stupid. I saw someone say that it could be like Wanted, but good lord please don't let that happen. Wanted did the same thing that the other Fox comic based movies get bashed for. It took the name of a property, and it threw away everything the property was about in favor of stupid slow motion action scenes that look good to easily impressed people. That movie is worse than freaking Elektra, yet people act like the movie's retarded action are okay because they saw bullets curving and Angelina Jolie's flat ass. I'm afraid that Fox would turn Deadpool into that type of travesty. I hate to be cynical, but I've given up on Fox. They've ruined some good franchises with their ignorance. Maybe if my expectations are really low I'll be surprised, but if the movie sucks I'll want blood. At least I can enjoy Deadpool's awesomeness through It'sJustSomeRandomGuy and his Marvel/DC movie postings.
katie_girl09
06-01-2009, 06:17 PM
Maybe I'm the only one, but I have a bad feeling about this movie. I don't think that a Deadpool movie is going to do as well as some people seem to think it will.
lou2099
06-01-2009, 06:19 PM
So you still think this movie won't be made?Yes, but I also think it should not be made at all.
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 06:24 PM
Yes, but I also think it should not be made at all.
Why not?
And if that's the case why are you even in this thread?
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 06:27 PM
Maybe I'm the only one, but I have a bad feeling about this movie. I don't think that a Deadpool movie is going to do as well as some people seem to think it will.
I don't think anyone thinks it will be a mega blockbuster. But, it doesn't need to be.
If done right it would be a great film.
Think about it.
A satire on the comic book industry. A bad ass action film. Insane humour and fourth wall breaking. And a tragic story about a guy who got cancer, and took extreme measures to find a cure, and in doing so, ends up terribly disfigured and slightly insane.
I mean, what's not to like? How can anyone whether they are a comic book movie fan or not, not dig the premise of that?
GeoffTheArtist
06-01-2009, 09:41 PM
I don't think anyone thinks it will be a mega blockbuster. But, it doesn't need to be.
If done right it would be a great film.
Think about it.
A satire on the comic book industry. A bad ass action film. Insane humour and fourth wall breaking. And a tragic story about a guy who got cancer, and took extreme measures to find a cure, and in doing so, ends up terribly disfigured and slightly insane.
I mean, what's not to like? How can anyone whether they are a comic book movie fan or not, not dig the premise of that?
A pipe dream. I'm hopeful. Deadpool has become my favorite character over the course of 4 years. He's even beaten out Batman becoming #1.
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 09:45 PM
Why is that a pipe dream? Reynolds has said that the studio and him want to make it accurate to the comics.
Sure it won't be 100% accurate most probably. But you take away the cancer aspect, the satire and the bad ass action, and you have a cliche action film, who is gonna want to see that?
I think, going from what Reynolds says anyway, that they all know THE selling point of Deadpool is his uniqueness. You take away the unique things about the character (satire, cancer, humour) what is left? A cliche loud mouth action star that isn't going to appeal to a lot of people considering it has been done to death a million times already.
Chewy
06-01-2009, 09:53 PM
What's he going to say? "FOX is determined to **** it up"?
Hugh Jackman said similar things about Wolverine when it was being developed
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 09:55 PM
Well no of course he isn't going to say that. But if he honestly thought Fox was gonna **** it up, he wouldn't just pull things like "The dark overloads who fund this movie are interested in this character because he is unique" out of his ass would he?
And he clearly isn't sucking up to Fox, there is a couple of snide remarks about them in the interview, like the one I mentioned above.
And all Hugh Jackman said was "He's going to be a animal" and "It's going to be bad ass" and **** like that.
GeoffTheArtist
06-01-2009, 10:11 PM
Why is that a pipe dream? Reynolds has said that the studio and him want to make it accurate to the comics.
Sure it won't be 100% accurate most probably. But you take away the cancer aspect, the satire and the bad ass action, and you have a cliche action film, who is gonna want to see that?
I think, going from what Reynolds says anyway, that they all know THE selling point of Deadpool is his uniqueness. You take away the unique things about the character (satire, cancer, humour) what is left? A cliche loud mouth action star that isn't going to appeal to a lot of people considering it has been done to death a million times already.
I only say that because I don't want to get my hopes up. As long as Reynolds is involved, I'm in.
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 10:15 PM
Well yea, I don't wanna get my hopes up too much. But from this most recent interview, there is only positive things to come out from it.
blackblt
06-01-2009, 10:24 PM
Hhhmmmm......one of the things I worry about is the way Deadpool would be presented by Fox. He must have his damn costume! I dont know why they want to make superhero movies and the characters never wear their costume. Wolverine is a good example. The movie was decent...but where was his costume? Imagine if they'd done the same thing with The Dark Knight...it would have been so less cool. Fox has to embrace Deadpool, warts and all and also embrace his unique story and world. What are they chances they'll do that without cheesing it out? slim to mid
Ace of Knaves
06-01-2009, 10:29 PM
Wolverine can still be Wolverine without his costume. Deadpool can't. There is the difference. He'll have the costume and mask, guaranteed.
And to be honest, I think there is MORE chance of them doing it more accurate to the source material. I mean, THE only reason Deadpool could make them money is because he is a unique character. They get rid of his uniqueness, water him down, and you are left with a generic loud mouth action hero. That isn't gonna impress people, we've seen it about a million times before.
Eric Brooks
06-02-2009, 08:13 AM
I just blew a load
this movie has me officially stoked
Donnie Darko
06-02-2009, 12:06 PM
I just really wonder how they will explain away the eye beams (my least favorite part of Wolverine... they showed Cyclops' power as basically being heat vision or lasers that cut/burn through things, not concussive blasts. Being hit by his beams shouldn't be like getting burned, it should be like getting hit by a truck driving at 80 mph) and the arm-swords.
cerealkiller182
06-02-2009, 08:26 PM
I just really wonder how they will explain away the eye beams (my least favorite part of Wolverine... they showed Cyclops' power as basically being heat vision or lasers that cut/burn through things, not concussive blasts. Being hit by his beams shouldn't be like getting burned, it should be like getting hit by a truck driving at 80 mph) and the arm-swords.
Do they need to? Theres a interview somewhere where Reynolds said "I doubt they'll be a connection to Wolverine" (paraphrasing). I cant find it though. It was much more adament than the other one thats people have been showing, Ryan also mentioned something about "screwing a cow for a chance to do DP right"
Ace of Knaves
06-03-2009, 03:18 AM
Yea it seems they might not even be linking it to Wolverine.
But if they do, the eye beams and katana hands won't be a problem I don't think. In that secret scene his eyes look all burnt out or something. Maybe they could say the optic blasts went into overload as his head was falling and it fried all the circuitry or something? Then I think it would make for a darkly comedic scene to show DP ripping the blades out of his arms himself.
Ace of Knaves
06-03-2009, 03:31 AM
Another interview. Talks about Cable and some villains that they are thinking of using.
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/06/02/exclusive-ryan-reynolds-hopes-for-ajax-black-tom-in-deadpool-movie-but-what-about-cable/
tekken
06-03-2009, 06:36 PM
cable already? i feel like cable's too big of a role to put him in a deadpool movie. unless they wanna just go ahead and call it "cable and deadpool;" it's kinda like making a batman movie, and starring superman in it. ya know? but whatever, i love cable; he's awesome.
who would play cable though?
Ace of Knaves
06-03-2009, 06:38 PM
Yea I wouldn't have Cable in the first. If they make DP into a franchise they could have ol Nate in the second and third. I'd love a Cable and Deadpool movie. Maybe set in some post apocalyptic future sorta like a satire of Mad Max, but with katana swords and plasma rifles :D
As for who would play Cable? The living legend that is Michael Biehn. No doubt.
Donnie Darko
06-03-2009, 07:36 PM
I think he's great for it. My choice for a long time was Adam Baldwin, but I'm really feeling Michael Biehn.
Karelia
06-03-2009, 07:59 PM
I can't help it, all this news/interviews with Ryan Reynolds is giving me nerdgasms. :D
I wouldn't mind Cable appearing, but I don't want him to take up half the movie. It might be better to wait and see how the Deadpool movie does, then him appear in the sequel if it gets one, which I hope it does.
Can't wait until we get a release date for this!
Ziggyman
06-03-2009, 08:07 PM
Wooohoo...I must be honest though...I've never read a Deadpool comic...But I've done some research and he sems really cool...
Just too bad that by signing on to play Wade in Wolverine...He ruined that film!
Ace of Knaves
06-04-2009, 02:06 AM
I think he's great for it. My choice for a long time was Adam Baldwin, but I'm really feeling Michael Biehn.
Adam Baldwin is a good shout too.
But I dunno, Biehn is just bad ass. And seeing as Deadpool is sorta satirical, it would be a nice spin to see Biehn as the cyborg from the future this time!
Wooohoo...I must be honest though...I've never read a Deadpool comic...But I've done some research and he sems really cool...
Just too bad that by signing on to play Wade in Wolverine...He ruined that film!
:hehe: Well you can't really blame him for that. He only signed on because he is a fan boy like us and it gave him the opportunity to finally get the Deadpool solo flick off the ground.
Ace of Knaves
06-04-2009, 06:01 AM
Just whipped this up.
Michael Biehn for Cable!!!!!
Credit to Soulnertia for the Deadpool model.
http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs44/f/2009/155/7/9/Cable_and_Deadpool_by_OlDirrtyDoogz.jpg
returntovoid
06-04-2009, 06:44 AM
Just whipped this up.
Michael Biehn for Cable!!!!!
Credit to Soulnertia for the Deadpool model.
http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs44/f/2009/155/7/9/Cable_and_Deadpool_by_OlDirrtyDoogz.jpg
Nice manip. :cool:
drmick
06-04-2009, 12:50 PM
Well, he's actually implying that Cable may be out of bounds. And Black Tom Cassidy as a villian? Get Coiln Farrell back! ;)
Ace of Knaves
06-04-2009, 01:23 PM
Collin Farrel is Bullseye. I like the Deadpool vs Bullseye rivalry in the books, and yea Farrel is a bit of a nob, but I thought his Bullseye was great.
Spider-Vader
06-07-2009, 01:08 AM
His Bullseye was good. It would of been better if he wore the comic costume. The comic costume isn't unbelievable. It's a grey jump suit with a bulls eye on his head, which he had anyway.
Project862006
06-11-2009, 06:56 PM
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/06/11/exclusive-ryan-reynolds-reveals-firm-deadpool-details-scars-costume-and-all/
Ace of Knaves
06-12-2009, 02:49 AM
****ing awesome!!! Nice find Pro' :up:
Reynolds has complete control over the character! This is a great moment for all comic book movies.
I get to be the authentication police, in a weird way. To their credit — the studio’s credit — they want to make an authentic ‘Deadpool’ movie; they want to make it as close to the source material as possible.
He’s going to be the Merc with the Mouth, [we’re going to give] all those answers that everyone wants,” Reynolds explained. “He’s going to have the scarred-up face, he’s going to be in the suit — and, it’s going to be incredible
drmick
06-12-2009, 09:00 AM
****ing awesome!!! Nice find Pro' :up:
Reynolds has complete control over the character! This is a great moment for all comic book movies.
Sound like he might be getting a Producer role for this film.
Ace of Knaves
06-12-2009, 09:33 AM
Well Jackman did as well, look what happened there!
But I believe in Reynolds more than Jackman. He goes into more depth about the character and what he wants, and it is no where near filming yet. Plus Jackman only started saying he loved Wolverine AFTER he got cast, Reynolds has been banging on about Deadpool for 6 or 7 years. And I think with his passion, he will be less flexible than Jackman. I got the feeling Jackman was a bit of a puppet.
drmick
06-12-2009, 09:47 AM
He's been banging on about the Flash too. He really wants a cheeky chappy comic book character.
He should have been Spider-man:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=320440
Ace of Knaves
06-12-2009, 09:50 AM
Yea he was in talks about playing Flash too. But that got drowned out with the Deadpool talk.
And I dunno bout him for Spider-Man, he's too tall and lanky looking.
The Guard
06-12-2009, 09:52 AM
Reynolds talks a good game. But it's FOX. I'll believe it when I see it.
Reynolds talks a good game. But it's FOX. I'll believe it when I see it.
Yeah, I got excited from hearing Reynold's comments but had to squash my excitement due to the film being under Fox. : (
Ace of Knaves
06-12-2009, 10:28 AM
Yea it is Fox. But they have shown they can be accurate to the source material before. Daredevil is VERY accurate to the source material in essence. And Daredevil NEEDED to be accurate to the source material, much like Deadpool. The ONLY way those characters can work is if it is true to the source.
Yea it is Fox. But they have shown they can be accurate to the source material before. Daredevil is VERY accurate to the source material in essence. And Daredevil NEEDED to be accurate to the source material, much like Deadpool. The ONLY way those characters can work is if it is true to the source.
That's very true and I'm glad Reynolds is getting some control(or it sounds that way at least)but I just hope Fox doesn't make them edit the film down or just dumb it down overall.
I know your a huge fan Ace, do you think the movie should be rated R or would it work as PG-13? Personally I think R would be better, just seems to fit his world a bit better at times.
Ace of Knaves
06-12-2009, 10:48 AM
Yea I'm gonna TRY to not get too excited yet :D
And yea I think Rated-R/18 would be ideal. It's a story about a guy who gets cancer and goes to extreme lengths to find a cure, to only end up horribly disfigured. That right there would be pushing PG-13 straight away I think. Plus you have the black humour, violence and language.
But saying that I don't think it HAS to be Rated-R. It could be PG-13 and still be good, as long as it really pushes the limit. But obviously if it was Rated R there would be less restrictions.
I think as long as they don't try and make it a big budget summer blockbuster I think it has a good chance of being R/18. You could make it for under 100 million easily I reckon. And release it at the end of the summer or winter, not mid summer.
highguard
06-12-2009, 01:50 PM
Well I am going to Jump in here and say, PG13 might be the way to go. Even Blade could have been PG13, PG13 brings in a larger audience and that is something that increases the chances of you getting good box office returns which is becoming the arbiter of success among hardcore fans. There are people trying to say Wolverine Origins was a bomb, but 175 mil in coin will say to a studio and others that....... ok we will take that kind of bomb any day.
There are so many people ready to kill a film if it does not deliver that making R rated films is a bigger risk than ever, and anyway I think more movies that kids and younger people can go to and enjoy is a cool thing.
I say push the envelope in terms of action and stuff, but the really gory stuff, do we really need to entrails and stuff hanging out of people.
Jeff Loeb did that in his ultimates and you know what, his story was still weak.
Of course I am biased towards movies that I can watch with my kids. The R rated version can always be release on a director's cut and we know Fox likes to double dip.
highguard
06-12-2009, 01:55 PM
Well I am going to Jump in here and say, PG13 might be the way to go. Even Blade could have been PG13, PG13 brings in a larger audience and that is something that increases the chances of you getting good box office returns which is becoming the arbiter of success among hardcore fans. There are people trying to say Wolverine Origins was a bomb, but 175 mil in coin will say to a studio and others that....... ok we will take that kind of bomb any day.
There are so many people ready to kill a film if it does not deliver that making R rated films is a bigger risk than ever, and anyway I think more movies that kids and younger people can go to and enjoy is a cool thing.
I say push the envelope in terms of action and stuff, but the really gory stuff, do we really need to see entrails and stuff hanging out of people.
Jeff Loeb did that in his ultimates and you know what, his story was still weak.
Of course I am biased towards movies that I can watch with my kids. The R rated version can always be release on a director's cut and we know Fox likes to double dip.
Ace of Knaves
06-12-2009, 02:12 PM
That's true. I'd imagine they will treat Deadpool the same way they treated Daredevil. And to be honest, I wouldn't mind that. Really for the life of me can't understand why Daredevil gets so much hate.
But it's not just violence I'm talking about. It's the actual character. He's a guy who got terminal cancer, went to extreme lengths to cure it, and ended up horribly disfigured and mentally disturbed. Deadpool isn't all fun and games, he is a very disturbing character really.
Karelia
06-12-2009, 02:22 PM
You can push PG-13 pretty far these days, so I'm not really worried if it's PG-13. I mean look at Two Face's face, that was pretty disturbing, or I thought it was, and that's probably the best rating it could get as far as getting more movie goers.
I'm just glad Reynolds is going to try and make it faithful to the comics. I just hope Fox isn't going to try and change big things to the character that completely ruin the movie.
Sundancer
06-12-2009, 03:23 PM
With everyone focusing on Reynolds, studios and directors, people often forget one of the most important elements in a successful movie:
The screenplay.
A successful comic-to-movie adaption knows the source material, but more importantly knows how a movie is structured and works. Often its when the studio ****s with it that problems arise, as in Daredevil (director's cut is much better IMO)
-- Studio wanted that coveted PG-13--we got a watered down Daredevil
--Donner threw out the Salkinds Superman joke-ridden script and we got a commercially and critically successful Superman movie.
--Nolan worked closely with David Goyer to find out the best direction to take Batman.
-- Most critics' complaints about Ang Lee's Hulk are script related (ie. pacing)
I think more fanboys are happy if changes are made and work out in the story's best interests. Liam Neeson's Rhas al Ghul is very little like the comics but the character worked in the story.
Deadpool is a lot like the Punisher in that people are going to see the character and what they do as opposed to some great relationship with the supporting cast or particular face-off with a villain. The story doesn't need to be epic like Spiderman, but it can''t be a bunch of one-liners either.
Ace of Knaves
06-12-2009, 03:35 PM
Well exactly. A Deadpool film needs a brilliant screen play. As you say, there needs to be more than just one liners.
I've got some rough ideas for the film floating around in my head, find it hard to put them int words though. I will get to it eventually :D
-JKR-
06-12-2009, 03:46 PM
I've read some Deadpool comics by now (genius!) and I think that a Deadpool movie is gonna be difficult to pull off. At least, with the sensibilities of most of today's filmmakers. Such a character would've fit perfectly into the 1980's blockbusters.
I mean, the movie really has to be schyzophrenic (and DEMENTED) like the character himself: you've got to have the right amount of comedy, but also the right amount of drama (since you should care for the character), but action, suspense and horror elements are important, too. So it really should be a mix of movies such as Predator, Commando, Gremlins, Die Hard, Darkman, etc. - and at the same time the script has got to be solid, because with so many elements and possible characters to include it could easily result in a mess.
The worst they could do would be a "generic comic flick + comedy". This one has got to be special to succeed. But for this you gotta get a passionate and talented creative team, who also know how to mold these characters according to their sensibilities.
Shane Black, Mike Judge and Joss Whedon are names floating in my head right now.
Ace of Knaves
06-12-2009, 03:53 PM
It would be pretty difficult to get spot on, because Deadpool and his world is so unique. But I think it can be done.
-JKR-
06-12-2009, 04:01 PM
Storywise they gotta decide if they should tie Deadpool into the X-Men Universe or not (at leat I hope it won't have too many connections with the Wolverine spin-off), since there's so many appearances of different Marvel characters in the comics...
Ace of Knaves
06-12-2009, 04:06 PM
Na I don't think so. Deadpool will be out long before the next X-Men movie, it's being "fast tracked" apparently. If Deadpool get's turned into a franchise I could see Siryn or Cable turning up if they are introduced in the next X-Men movie though.
For his first movie I'd keep the story quite simple. Maybe open the film with a scene like in Deadpools first solo issue, stalking a group of soldiers in the jungle, then have flash backs of him at weapon x explaining that he has terminal cancer and all that. Then jump back to the present where he is doing merc jobs and what not.
cerealkiller182
06-12-2009, 06:34 PM
Deadpool has a big enough cast of characters to work around the Marvel Universe. I mean theres a few characters that belong in DP more than anyone else. Taskmaster for 1. Hes probably the only person with the possibility of being in another movie but should be in a DP movie. His run ins with Syrin and Juggie should just be ignored. Cable's origin could take up an entire movie and time travel can get annoying. I would be completely ok with them skipping over him too.
You've got: Taskmaster, Agent X, Outlaw, Sandi, Weasal, Zoe and the others from Landau, Luckman, and Lake, Bob, Blind Al, Fenway, C.B., Patch, Sluggo, Slayback, Copycat, T-Ray, Irene Merryweather, The Cat, Black Swan, and all the mobsters from Taskmaster and Agency X titles.
Ace of Knaves
06-12-2009, 06:38 PM
I don't think you can just ignore Siryn. She played a massive part in his development. If she is in the next X-Men movie why not include her in a Deadpool sequel if he gets one? Same with Cable. If he gets his own movie or is introduced in another X-Men movie I see no problem with them crossing over into Deadpools movies. Sorta like how Marvel are going with the Avengers. I could see Deadpool having a couple of movies, Cable being introduced and explained in another movie, then eventually there could be a Cable and Deadpool movie.
cerealkiller182
06-12-2009, 06:53 PM
I don't think you can just ignore Siryn. She played a massive part in his development. If she is in the next X-Men movie why not include her in a Deadpool sequel if he gets one? Same with Cable. If he gets his own movie or is introduced in another X-Men movie I see no problem with them crossing over into Deadpools movies. Sorta like how Marvel are going with the Avengers. I could see Deadpool having a couple of movies, Cable being introduced and explained in another movie, then eventually there could be a Cable and Deadpool movie.
Syrin is presently 15 or so in the X-Men movieverse already. And I wouldnt say Syrin played a massive part. Shes interchangebale with any other do-good female role. The only reason why it was her in the first place was because it was her uncle who Deadpool was facing off against. Typhoid Mary had a much more massive and specific effect on his development as did Copycat and Blind Al, with the additional bonus of being a Deadpool original supporting cast. Cable and Deadpool as a title was fun and added development to Deadpool, but I dont think Cable is required for the movie-verse.
Ace of Knaves
06-12-2009, 06:57 PM
He might not be required, but it would be ****ing awesome IMO. As if you wouldn't wanna see a Cable and Deadpool movie set in an apocalyptic future ala Mad Max? That would be insane.
And I suppose you are right about Siryn. But see I love the idea of a twisted love triangle between Siryn, Wade and Typhoid. I think that would be really interesting to see, and it would be sorta satirical of "love triangle" movies too.
cerealkiller182
06-12-2009, 07:14 PM
He might not be required, but it would be ****ing awesome IMO. As if you wouldn't wanna see a Cable and Deadpool movie set in an apocalyptic future ala Mad Max? That would be insane.
Actually Id be ok with not seeing that.
And I suppose you are right about Siryn. But see I love the idea of a twisted love triangle between Siryn, Wade and Typhoid. I think that would be really interesting to see, and it would be sorta satirical of "love triangle" movies too.
Id rather avoid that at all costs. Deadpool should never be satirical. That means outside elements are being crazy. Deadpool should be the only crazy one. Its why hes crazy in the first place. If his world was crazy, Deadpool would be normal.
Ace of Knaves
06-12-2009, 07:31 PM
Deadpool should never be satirical? Wha...?!!?!? I have to question whether you know a thing about Deadpool and his universe. Deadpool is ALWAYS satirical. Well not always but satire is a MASSIVE part of the character. It's one of the things that makes him appealing. He is satirical without going into full on spoofing.
Deadpool should never be satirical? Wha...?!!?!? I have to question whether you know a thing about Deadpool and his universe. Deadpool is ALWAYS satirical. Well not always but satire is a MASSIVE part of the character. It's one of the things that makes him appealing. He is satirical without going into full on spoofing.
I think cerealkiller182 meant the movie overall. Not Deadpool himself but the other characters that will be in his movie.
Correct me if I'm wrong cereal.
Ace of Knaves
06-13-2009, 04:24 AM
Still wouldn't understand what that means :D
I mean, a Deadpool film MUST be satirical. It simple HAS to be. Even if only slightly. That would be what sets it apart from all other comic book movies. Deadpool comics are a satirical spin on other comics, so the movie should be a satirical spin on comic book movies. But still retain the serious narrative and the insane action.
Shaolin Kenobi
06-13-2009, 12:31 PM
What kills me about Fox... is they HAVE to be aware how much people despise what they have done to many of our beloved icons. They either don't care and want the quick and dirty buck... or they are complete bafoons.
Ace of Knaves
06-13-2009, 12:34 PM
Well they are in the business of making money.
That's why I think it is highly likely that what Reynolds says is gonna happen. THE only reason Deadpool could be a financially viable product is if they keep that uniqueness. You take away the things that make Deadpool Deadpool, all you are left with is a generic loud mouth action hero. That's been seen a billion times before.
With characters like Wolverine changes can be made(even if they shouldn't be) and he still has some semblence of the Wolverine character. With Deadpool that isn't possible.
Look at Daredevil, a Fox movie. VERY accurate to the source material. Why? Because that is the ONLY way it could of worked. Same applies to Deadpool.
Nivek
06-27-2009, 12:17 PM
You guys see this yet? Seen it on Joblo.com
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Nivekian/wolvieending01.jpg
Eggyman
07-03-2009, 08:15 AM
Knaves is my Ace in the hole.
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=25215
Ryan Reynolds Talks Deadpool
Exclusive: Wade will break fourth wall
Ryan Reynolds was in London to promote The Proposal last night and in between rom-com patter and general charm, he gave us an update on his eagerly-awaited Deadpool spin-off. There's a double dose of good news for fans of the Marvel mercenary. Reynolds says Deadpool will breach the fourth wall: “Break the fourth wall? Oh yeah, he’s got to. I want to see him break the Great Wall."
Confirming what he recently told HitFix, Reynolds emphasised that he and 20th Century Fox were working to ensure that Deadpool close sticks as closely as possible to the Marvel comic-book: “The studio's working on a script and trying to find a director. The main goal is to make sure it stays close to the source material."
So does Reynolds feel under pressure from fanboys? “I’m one of them. I’ve always been a fan, at least for the last eight or nine years. I feel a bit of validation because I knew going into Wolverine that there’s a huge fanbase for this and I don’t think anyone else did."
SPOILER: One thing the annoyingly charming and funny leading man wouldn't go into was the little matter of that decapitation: “That we won’t speak of." So perhaps they haven't nailed the thorny problem of reattaching his head, unsewing his mouth and generally undoing the entire last act of X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
Still, it's comforting to know that the one name so far attached to the project is a die-hard fanboy, and we're currently basking in beautiful visions of a cross between Blade (without the vampires) and Ferris Bueller's Day Off (the bits where he talks to the audience): please don't burst our bubble.
Phil de Semlyen
:word:
Minus Shock
07-03-2009, 09:22 AM
I personally still like the idea of Weapon XI being a clone. Honestly I just say forget the X-men exist in Deadpool. With the exception of Cable and such, but jesus, after Wolverine I would distance myself as much from that as possible.
I hope Ryan gets to make this movie. I am a huge Deadpool fan, and I have said since 2002 that I would cast him for Deadpool. Furthermore I really love the idea of Adam Baldwin as Cable. The idea of Reynolds and Baldwin on screen just screams awesomeness. I really hope this happens. I really hope that Fox woke the **** up after Wolverine tanked and said "crap... that Reynolds guy he really knows his comics lets let him handle our next comic movie maybe he can solve this mysterious ongoing problem of all of our non Singer comic book franchises blowing."
Minus Shock
07-03-2009, 09:24 AM
This was a double post so if someone could delete this it would be awesome.
If not.... Ryan Reynolds is a stud muffin. There... it's deadpool related.
E-Man
07-03-2009, 11:09 AM
The more Reynolds talks about it, the more I anticipate this. I'm trying to keep my cynicism at bay, and what he's proposing is sounding really good.
Spider-Vader
07-04-2009, 05:51 PM
If Reynolds leaves this project, I'm going to kill Rothman.
i like how he said he will be breaking the 4th wall. sounds good.
anyone have ideas how the script could go? show his beginnings obviously and hopefully not show or acknowledge the events of wolverine.
Minus Shock
07-05-2009, 05:18 AM
I think it would be awesome if he mentioned other superhero movies. not all the time or anything but like in breaking the fourth wall talk about downey as Iron Man, or Bale as Batman or something.
drmick
07-05-2009, 06:56 AM
Knaves is my Ace in the hole.
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=25215
:word:
Where is the Ace of Knaves anyhow? It feels like he single-handedly created the enthusiasm for this flick?
Eggyman
07-05-2009, 07:53 AM
He's on probation until the 17th so asked me to post that for him. He's here in spirit guys :D
Fresh Prince
07-05-2009, 01:49 PM
Knaves is my Ace in the hole.
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=25215
:word:
Oh lord Blade/Ferris Buller Day Off that will never work. Blade talking like Ferris did to the audience. Ferris craked jokes for the most part what will Blade do? And do vampires thats what makes Blade Blade.
cerealkiller182
07-05-2009, 03:05 PM
Oh lord Blade/Ferris Buller Day Off that will never work. Blade talking like Ferris did to the audience. Ferris craked jokes for the most part what will Blade do? And do vampires thats what makes Blade Blade.
Your taking it far too literal
Gamma Goliath
07-06-2009, 01:13 AM
Oh lord Blade/Ferris Buller Day Off that will never work. Blade talking like Ferris did to the audience. Ferris craked jokes for the most part what will Blade do? And do vampires thats what makes Blade Blade.
Dude, you do realize when he mentioned those movies he was reffering to the content of them, farris buler- comedy, and breaking the forth wall.
Blade- the high action, blood and intensity.
Combine those elements, and add in ryan reynolds with a deadpool mask, a couple swords, and some really big guns and we have a deadpool movie.
drmick
07-07-2009, 05:54 AM
He's on probation until the 17th so asked me to post that for him. He's here in spirit guys :D
What did he do? I have found him quite restrained even in the face of serious provocation.
Re: the fourth wall, does anybody have any feelings on just exactly how much 4th wall breakage should happen?
Unless it's a voiceover narration where it can run right throughout the film (and in the style of his Hannibal KIng Blade Trinity intro), I would prefer there to be very few instances.
Wesley Dodds
07-07-2009, 06:03 AM
You guys see this yet? Seen it on Joblo.com
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Nivekian/wolvieending01.jpg
This is freakin' great! The movie woulda been much cooler if it actually ended this way! I'm serious!
Gamma Goliath
07-07-2009, 02:22 PM
Yeah that's been around for a couple weeks now.
Hypestyle
07-07-2009, 04:49 PM
heh.. how often will Wade wear the mask in the film (or at all?) ? usually, for handsome actors, the idea is that they want their face to be seen...
cerealkiller182
07-07-2009, 04:53 PM
For Ryan Reynolds, the idea is that he wants to be as true to the character as possible so he'll at least be pushing for the mask. Even without the mask, the nature of Deadpool would not allow Ryan to show off his looks anyway.
Gamma Goliath
07-07-2009, 05:29 PM
Yeah I'm expecting the mask at least 70% of the film. The only time I expect not to see him in the mask is before he makes it, before he's ugly, and when he's around blind al and weasle.
Gamma Goliath
07-07-2009, 05:31 PM
Yeah I'm expecting the mask at least 70% of the film. The only time I expect not to see him in the mask is before he makes it, before he's ugly in some sort of flash backs when he first joined strykers team x(yes I still believe this movie should be loosely linked to xmo.), and when he's around blind al and weasel.
Minus Shock
07-07-2009, 07:43 PM
What did he do? I have found him quite restrained even in the face of serious provocation.
Re: the fourth wall, does anybody have any feelings on just exactly how much 4th wall breakage should happen?
Unless it's a voiceover narration where it can run right throughout the film (and in the style of his Hannibal KIng Blade Trinity intro), I would prefer there to be very few instances.
I don't think they should overplay the 4th wall, but it's got to be done in the style of like almost Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Where he directly acknowledges the audience.
cerealkiller182
07-07-2009, 07:49 PM
Ferris Beuller-style 4th wall breaking I think is a little too much especially since Deadpool should still be an action-thriller despite the jokes.
I'd rather see it as a subtle use of the spoof movie version where they talk about cliches. In Not Another Teen Movie, he talks about being a token black guy. In My Big Fat Independent Movie they talk about how they are anti-heroes and they have to kill people worse then them so that the audience would still like them. Not really talking to the audience, but a subtle sense of awareness.
Minus Shock
07-07-2009, 09:30 PM
Yeah but is Deadpool really subtle? I get what you're saying though. While it would never ever happen I think it would be great if they said something like "this isn't the barakapool from Wolverine" or something like that. Hehe.
I know that breaking the fourth wall can be as simple as just revealing they know they are fictitious, but I think doing it once or twice wont be so bad. I mean Tom Cruise kinda did it in Mission Impossible Three. I dont think it would take away from the action aspect of the movie.
cerealkiller182
07-07-2009, 09:33 PM
If it was truly subtle they wouldnt even mention it. But Deadpool really doesnt need to turn to the screen and address the audience which is what everyone expects I think. Deadpool was always better when he says "I can talk with those little yellow boxes again" rather than saying "What's up True Believer"
Minus Shock
07-07-2009, 09:37 PM
Hehe "I can talk with those little yellow boxes again" was great. I do get what you mean though. The looking at the camera is just really great for comedic effect, but it could distract from the main point of the movie, which would not be good.
cerealkiller182
07-07-2009, 09:40 PM
Looking at the camera has worked once IMO and that was Jay and Silent Bob. Frankly the only way it would work in Deadpool is if DP turned to the camera at the very end and gave a knowing glance (like "Is that all you got" kinda look) and than fade to black.
JeetKuneDo
07-10-2009, 11:09 AM
Hhhmmmm......one of the things I worry about is the way Deadpool would be presented by Fox. He must have his damn costume! I dont know why they want to make superhero movies and the characters never wear their costume. Wolverine is a good example. The movie was decent...but where was his costume? Imagine if they'd done the same thing with The Dark Knight...it would have been so less cool. Fox has to embrace Deadpool, warts and all and also embrace his unique story and world. What are they chances they'll do that without cheesing it out? slim to mid
Spider-Man would be a better example.
The Batman costume hasn't been in any of the Batman films so far. (Not counting the cheesy 60s movie)
FaT_tONle
07-10-2009, 08:18 PM
Reynolds lands Green Lantern... So I guess this film won't come out till 2012 earliest... if at all. Unless is a really small/short production which is possible assuming it even happens at this point.
Chewy
07-10-2009, 08:38 PM
Yeah, I don't think this is going to happen with Reynolds landing Hal Jordan
Spider-Vader
07-10-2009, 09:04 PM
He better not. I want Deadpool, plus I don't think he fits Hal Jordan that well. He'd make a pretty good Flash though.... IF HE WASN'T ALREADY DEADPOOL!
There's no way he can be two major characters at the same time, especially when the studios are rivals.
Spider-Vader
07-10-2009, 09:04 PM
Double, sorry.
Octoberist
07-10-2009, 09:08 PM
it's okay Spider-Vader. Who knows what will happen with Deadpool now..a delay perhaps.
Chewy
07-10-2009, 09:08 PM
He is playing Hal Jordan. The trades reported it tonight.
TheVileOne
07-10-2009, 09:10 PM
Reynolds as Deadpool I think we can all say is pretty much done.
Think about it. Did Singer ever come back to X-men after Superman Returns? Its not gonna happen guys. Fox is that petty.
Also, Reynolds was barely even in the movie. So big deal. He was in it for like 30 seconds as Wade Wilson and didn't even really do anything.
E-Man
07-10-2009, 11:29 PM
Reynolds as Hal is more of a wait and see thing, but he's not the end all be all for Deadpool. There are other people who could pull it off besides him. I agree that the GL casting hurts the Deadpool movie's progress, but it's not necessarily the death blow.
cerealkiller182
07-10-2009, 11:35 PM
Just becuase Reynolds is Hal doesnt mean it hurts Deadpool's progress, especially since it barely has any process. If push came to shove and it was between Deadpool and GL Im sure Reynolds would say Deadpool, but I see no reason why both cant happen except that fanboys swear by one comic movie an actor.
E-Man
07-10-2009, 11:46 PM
Just becuase Reynolds is Hal doesnt mean it hurts Deadpool's progress, especially since it barely has any process. If push came to shove and it was between Deadpool and GL Im sure Reynolds would say Deadpool, but I see no reason why both cant happen except that fanboys swear by one comic movie an actor.
Exactly. If he's the best for the role, then he should play it if available.
cerealkiller182
07-10-2009, 11:48 PM
Exactly. If he's the best for the role, then he should play it if available.
Not only is he the best, but he is a fan and a driving force behind current production (if thats what you can call it). Ryan said recently he had 4 projects in the pipeline. One was Buried and he couldnt say on the other 3, apparently one being Green Lantern. He said not to expect Deadpool until at least after the 4 of them.
E-Man
07-10-2009, 11:52 PM
If he's as hardcore about Deadpool as he says he is, then the movie should eventually get made. I don't think someone who is a fan of a property would abandon it so easily like some think.
Jick09
07-11-2009, 12:10 AM
I'm really undecided how I feel about this. I hope Deadpool is still priority for him and isn't on second plan, now.
Really unexpected news, though.
TheVileOne
07-11-2009, 02:13 AM
Once again, Fox is not going to let him play both. Has everyone already forgotten what happened before?
What Reynolds wants doesn't matter. He picked Green Lantern apparently. Deadpool is not going to give him the money like Green Lantern will.
Spider-Vader
07-11-2009, 02:20 AM
The only good thing about this is that Timberlake isn't Lantern & Reynolds is a good actor.
Minus Shock
07-11-2009, 02:34 AM
This makes sense to me actually. Reynolds stressing that he will be scarred up and in the mask. Think about it if he is the face behind Green Latern, he can easily be the face behind prosthetics and a mask of Deadpool. I think some time needs to pass between Wolverine and Deadpool anyway. Let people forget about Wolverine so when he returns as the real deal Deadpool it will ****in rock the house.
DarthDaveBanner
07-11-2009, 05:29 AM
Although it kind of sucks that we won't see him as Deadpool now for a long, long time you can't blame him for taking up GL even if he is the Deadpool fanatic that he claims to be.
He knows as we all do that it was always going to be an uphill struggle against fox to get the DP movie made and an even bigger struggle to get it made faithfully.
GlasgowBat
07-11-2009, 09:26 AM
nevermind, not worth it
cerealkiller182
07-11-2009, 10:51 AM
Although it kind of sucks that we won't see him as Deadpool now for a long, long time you can't blame him for taking up GL even if he is the Deadpool fanatic that he claims to be.
He knows as we all do that it was always going to be an uphill struggle against fox to get the DP movie made and an even bigger struggle to get it made faithfully.
You werent going to see Deadpool for a long long time anyway. Ryan said he had 4 possible projects he had to get through first before doing anything for Deadpool.
I'm sure the first question Ryan gets will be about Deadpool. Because while I dont think the studio will give up on Ryan because he continued acting, Ryan could have given up on the project because Fox's interference.
TheVileOne
07-11-2009, 02:22 PM
If Reynolds truly cared that much he would not have done the fairly useless cameo in X-men Origins.
Reynolds as Deadpool is over.
Minus Shock
07-11-2009, 04:31 PM
If Reynolds truly cared that much he would not have done the fairly useless cameo in X-men Origins.
Reynolds as Deadpool is over.
Yeah but he said himself that he did as much as he could to bring Wade from the Comics to screen. He also said that if the opportunity to do a Deadpool movie never happened, he wanted to at least rest knowing he got to play Wade Wilson in some way. I understand that. He couldn't have known that a week after Wolverine he would be controlling the fate of the Deadpool Solo movie.
TheVileOne
07-11-2009, 04:53 PM
Yeah but he said himself that he did as much as he could to bring Wade from the Comics to screen.
Wow. Should he get a medal for his excellent 30 seconds of screentime he had?
He also said that if the opportunity to do a Deadpool movie never happened, he wanted to at least rest knowing he got to play Wade Wilson in some way. I understand that. He couldn't have known that a week after Wolverine he would be controlling the fate of the Deadpool Solo movie.
Whatever. You guys make it sound like Wade Wilson was actually an important character in the Wolverine movie or that Ryan Reynolds actually had something to do in it.
Docker2.0
07-11-2009, 09:01 PM
Once again, Fox is not going to let him play both. Has everyone already forgotten what happened before?
What Reynolds wants doesn't matter. He picked Green Lantern apparently. Deadpool is not going to give him the money like Green Lantern will.
Exactly. I can't believe you guys think he still has a chance. :huh: That isn't how Fox works when it comes to their superhero projects. Superhero movies tend to bring in big bucks and a DP movie with the right director and actor could join the $100M club. But once RR signed on to play GL, he basically said to Fox screw you in their eyes. I'm surpised he got the part though. This came out of the blue it seems. :huh:
Do you guys thinks Rothman looks at the critic reviews and box office receipts of all the films made by Fox in a year and says to himself, "Wow, we really do make God awful ****** films."
Seriously. The ignorance and obliviousness of that studio is astounding.
Minus Shock
07-11-2009, 09:11 PM
Wow. Should he get a medal for his excellent 30 seconds of screentime he had?
Whatever. You guys make it sound like Wade Wilson was actually an important character in the Wolverine movie or that Ryan Reynolds actually had something to do in it.
I wasn't trying to say that at all actually. My point was that Ryan isn't stabbing Fox in the back BECAUSE Wade was wasted in Wolverine and he did the best he could. That was my point.
Minus Shock
07-11-2009, 09:16 PM
Do you guys thinks Rothman looks at the critic reviews and box office receipts of all the films made by Fox in a year and says to himself, "Wow, we really do make God awful ****** films."
Seriously. The ignorance and obliviousness of that studio is astounding.
I completely agree. Fox are a bunch of idiots. Fox should have waited a year to do X-men 3 with Singer, but they had to compete with Superman.
I am optimistic that Ryan's Deadpool will still happen just because I want to see it. Deadpool was never given a date, we heard things from Reynolds. Assuming that this was one of the projects that Reynolds said had to happen before Deadpool, what has changed exactly? You think he didn't tell Fox "yeah I'm up for Green Lantern"?
Docker2.0
07-11-2009, 10:40 PM
Well.................the reason Singer didn't do Xmen 3 was becuase he chose another superhero movie. Same thing. Rothman is a diva that should have been fired years ago.
cerealkiller182
07-13-2009, 10:45 PM
Well.................the reason Singer didn't do Xmen 3 was becuase he chose another superhero movie. Same thing. Rothman is a diva that should have been fired years ago.
Singer chose to do Superman Returns as X-Men 3 was going into pre-production. Deadpool has only been greenlit and is still a ways away even if he didnt do Green lantern
Gamma Goliath
07-13-2009, 11:19 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if we heard from ryan in the next week or so.
I honestly don't see why he can't work on both movies.
TheVileOne
07-14-2009, 03:46 PM
Because Fox is Fox.
And he's Green Lantern now. Not Deadpool.
cerealkiller182
07-14-2009, 03:48 PM
Fox let Halle Berry be Storm after Catwoman
Lord Blackbolt
07-15-2009, 01:06 AM
Fox probably had a idea that movie was gonna bomb anyway that's why they let her do that movie.
cerealkiller182
07-15-2009, 09:33 AM
So Fox purposely lost money?
Hypestyle
07-15-2009, 12:12 PM
so, with the green lantern news, does this mean Deadpool is dead in the water? were contracts signed or not?
Minus Shock
07-15-2009, 02:00 PM
I dont know why it would be dead. I think Reynolds can maintain in both movies. Again he said he had projects he had to finish before he could start Deadpool, nothing has changed. Just people assume you can't do more than one comic movie. I do think that is true when we speak within a comic company, but even in this case it's not like Deadpool will look like anyone else ya know?
General Audiences likely wont even connect that he is reprising a character from the Wolverine train-wreck, unless they market that way. According to Reynolds he would be scarred and wearing a mask. Essentially he is a voice actor if you think about it, cause that's the only thing that is recognizable.
E-Man
07-15-2009, 03:42 PM
I dont know why it would be dead. I think Reynolds can maintain in both movies. Again he said he had projects he had to finish before he could start Deadpool, nothing has changed. Just people assume you can't do more than one comic movie. I do think that is true when we speak within a comic company, but even in this case it's not like Deadpool will look like anyone else ya know?
General Audiences likely wont even connect that he is reprising a character from the Wolverine train-wreck, unless they market that way. According to Reynolds he would be scarred and wearing a mask. Essentially he is a voice actor if you think about it, cause that's the only thing that is recognizable.
I think that helps him. He wasn't in Wolverine that long, so people probably won't get that he was in the Origins movie. If people do remember him, it's probably as the cool guy who split the bullet in half with his sword.
FlawlessVictory
07-17-2009, 11:32 AM
Ryan Reynolds Does Not Rule Out Deadpool (http://thinkmcflythink.squarespace.com/movie-news/2009/7/17/ryan-reynolds-does-not-rule-out-deadpool.html)
When Ryan Reynolds accepted the proposal from Warner Bros. and chose to take their ring, many -- if not most people -- assumed the fact that playing Green Lantern would mean the end of Reynolds' involvement in a Deadpool movie.
Now, Deadpool received some pretty lousy treatment in "X-men Origins: Wolverine," but fans of the character were confident (or at least hopeful) that Reynolds, himself a Deadpool fan, could make things right.
However, the left field plucking of Reynolds to play a character in the DC Universe (Green Lantern) left many wondering what that meant for his character in the Marvel Universe (Deadpool).
Apparently, Reynolds is not ruling out a return to Deadpool, telling Entertainment Weekly: "There's no rule that you can't play two different characters in two different comic book universes."
In fact, he added that he might not be done, saying, "There are so many interesting comic book characters out there. I would love to do others."
Personally, I would be shocked to see Reynolds play Deadpool in a solo movie for a vast number of reasons, but at least Deadpool fans still have some hope.
http://thinkmcflythink.squarespace.com/movie-news/2009/7/17/ryan-reynolds-does-not-rule-out-deadpool.html
FlawlessVictory
07-17-2009, 11:33 AM
^What a whore. Can't wait to see him as the entire JLA and Avengers. :o
WeaponXProject
07-17-2009, 12:41 PM
Even with this recent news of him saying he could play both characters...I'm routing for him to be Deadpool but it doesn't seem optimistic now, well atleast to me. If he has to start working on both movies then I don't think he'll have the time.
In my opinion the Deadpool movie is most likely put back on the shelf unless someone else can come along and play him. And who should that be? Does he have to be funny? Or can they just make the character have funny lines?
Anyways I'm starting a thread about who should play Deadpool if RR leaves. If the mods want to merge the conversation into here that is fine as well.:yay:
cerealkiller182
07-17-2009, 12:44 PM
Deadpool would be no where near production time even if Reynolds wasnt cast as Green Lantern. If Deadpool doesnt happen it wont be because Reynolds did Green Lantern
WeaponXProject
07-17-2009, 01:00 PM
Deadpool would be no where near production time even if Reynolds wasnt cast as Green Lantern. If Deadpool doesnt happen it wont be because Reynolds did Green Lantern
I thought that Green Lantern is still some time away. And Reynolds has a few projects rumored so I was just entertaining the fact that he might leave. Who knows? I hope it still happens...with RR.
cerealkiller182
07-17-2009, 01:05 PM
I thought that Green Lantern is still some time away. And Reynolds has a few projects rumored so I was just entertaining the fact that he might leave. Who knows? I hope it still happens...with RR.
GL has a release date of 2011, Deadpool has no release date at all. I remember RR saying, but I cant find now, that he has a number of projects in the pipeline before Deadpool was greenlit and they had to be done before he could get going on Deadpool, and it was greenlit with the understanding that he would play Deadpool (without Ryan I doubt it would have happened), so Im pretty sure Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool is definitely still happening at this point, but like any project could fold. But I am confident that if it folds, its not because Reynolds played Green Lantern.
WeaponXProject
07-17-2009, 01:54 PM
I want RR to stay with Deadpool, too. It's in my Sig.
E-Man
07-17-2009, 01:57 PM
Ace should be posting in this thread any minute now...:oldrazz:
FaT_tONle
07-17-2009, 03:13 PM
The longer Fox sits... the less likely the chances. Earliest I see is 2013. If GL gets a sequel forget about it.
Ace of Knaves
07-17-2009, 03:28 PM
I've been thinking about this, and personally, I don't think anything has changed.
I never thought Deadpool would be out anytime before 2012, this seems to confirm that.
Ryan Reynolds has been banging on about Deadpool since 2002. Even throwing words like "destiny" around. So what? He patiently waits 7 years, Deadpool FINALLY get's green lit, THEN he is like "You know what, I've waited all this time but **** it" No chance.
Reynolds has done what actors in his position should be doing. Taking on high profile roles. Did people not expect him to get any roles like this? That Deadpool was gonna be IT? C'mon guys.
GL is gonna be a mid summer big budget blockbuster. Reynolds is doing it for the $$$. Whereas I always thought Deadpool would more likely be a Blade type movie. Modest budget, released in winter or spring (not mid summer) and Reynolds would want to do it simply because he loves Deadpool and wants to play him.
So what I'm saying is, Reynolds hasn't abandoned his dream role IMO. He's just taken a job, you know, what actors should be doing.
And as for GL sequels? Who says they will feature Hal? Who says they won't have a different Lantern in each movie?
FaT_tONle
07-17-2009, 03:37 PM
Good to have you back Ace, and you makes sense.... only Fox probably has other lucrative properties they'd rather explore IMO. I think the other X-Men spinoffs have more potential than a Deadpool movie to be honest, and they do have other properties they need to exploit before losing the rights. That's why I think you are going to be waiting even longer.
Ace of Knaves
07-17-2009, 03:42 PM
Thanks bro :up:
Yea, 2012 at the EARLIEST. That's how I've always thought it would be. Reynolds wants to do Deadpool, he has for nearly a decade. He wouldn't just completely abandon it. But as a actor with a star on the rise big time, he's gotta take other gigs.
Do people expect him to be sitting on his ass twiddling his thumbs waiting for a Deadpool script? :hehe: He's taken the GL gig for $$$. He'll do Deadpool for personal gratification. GL the mid summer blockbuster. Deadpool the smaller, more of a cult hit that Reynolds just wants to do because he loves the character.
But I also must add this.
MTV Splash pages did a poll. Which X film does everyone want to see first? Wolverine 2, Magneto, Gambit, First Class or Deadpool.
Guess which one won?
FaT_tONle
07-17-2009, 03:47 PM
Yeah but Renolds coming back has little to do with it. It depends on Fox's willingness to go forward with it. Obviously Renolds coming back would improve their chances, but if it's 5-6 years after Wolverine, Fox may not want to retread back to a character that was basically an extended cameo in a movie that long ago.
Ace of Knaves
07-17-2009, 03:57 PM
I understand that. But it's pretty clear from the dozens of interviews Reynolds has done in the last couple months that the Deadpool movie was basically gonna be a reboot of the character.
GL starts shooting at the start of next year right? Probably a 8 month shoot? So whilst all that is going on I don't see why Fox can't continue to look at scripts, get Reynolds in to throw ideas around and what.
Get a script sorted just after GL comes out in 2011. Start shooting Deadpool end of 2011 start of 2012. That seems plausible to me.
FaT_tONle
07-17-2009, 04:38 PM
Don't you think Fox is more likely to look at writers for Wolverine 2 and First Class rather than wait on Renolds. Anyone of those projects moving forward before Deadpool and that potentially pushes everything back another 2-3 years. I wouldn't put too much stock in the MTV splash polls for that matter either.
Ace of Knaves
07-17-2009, 04:41 PM
Yea good points. I think 2013 is more likely then.
cerealkiller182
07-17-2009, 04:41 PM
Don't you think Fox is more likely to look at writers for Wolverine 2 and First Class rather than wait on Renolds. Anyone of those projects moving forward before Deadpool and that potentially pushes everything back another 2-3 years. I wouldn't put too much stock in the MTV splash polls for that matter either.
They work on more than one movie at a time. I think they'll have priority, but I dont think that excludes Deadpool.
FaT_tONle
07-17-2009, 04:55 PM
I could still see Fox putting out 2 films in 2012. Magneto/Deadpool/DD are non-summer movies. Wolverine/First Class/FF are May/mid-June type films. So I can see any two of those, and possibly another summer tentpole in 2013. Fox has some options to work with. Just depends on how fast they are willing to move.
E-Man
07-17-2009, 09:38 PM
I just realized that 2012 isn't that far away. It's a considerable amount of time to wait, but 3 years isn't that long.
And now I realize I'm getting old.:csad:
But Deadpool can still work like people have posted. I know this is speculation from Ace, but if 2012 is when Deadpool may come out, then there's plenty of time for Reynolds to do what he wants. Even if GL is as big as I think it will be, Reynolds won't be locked down much.
drmick
07-18-2009, 11:57 AM
Let's see now
Patrick Stewart = Prof X = Capt Picard
Halle Berry = Storm = Catwoman (sorta)
Christian Bale = Batman = John Connor
Ryan Reynolds = Deadpool = GL = Hannibal King
I agree there is still no reason why RR can't be Deadpool, theVileOne was just trolling, he does that all the time.
However, if the GL franchise takes off, a sequel will be scheduled for 2 years after that (2013), as that seems to be the way sequels work nowadays. Reynolds' biggest danger will be scheduling conflicts. And the fact that we will be approaching 40!
I recently watched Wanted recently. Gets better on repeared viewings. The film even had plenty of 4th wall breakage in narration, and a nice facing the camera line at the end. They should get the Wanted director to direct Deadpool. And Elfman to do the score. And somehoew get Jolie, McEvoy and Freeman into the cast.
E-Man
07-18-2009, 04:23 PM
You're entitled to your opinion drmick, but I absolutely hated Wanted. I really wish that I could erase that movie from my memory. I saw it for free, yet I still wanted to punch the person who let me borrow it. "Shoot the wings off this fly?" Where do they come from with that?
drmick
07-18-2009, 06:55 PM
You're entitled to your opinion drmick, but I absolutely hated Wanted. I really wish that I could erase that movie from my memory. I saw it for free, yet I still wanted to punch the person who let me borrow it. "Shoot the wings off this fly?" Where do they come from with that?
Wow. I'm pretty sure ur in the minority with that one. Unless you really had a thing for the comic series. I read the tpb after the seeing the film. I preferred the film.
E-Man
07-18-2009, 07:34 PM
I haven't read the TPB, but I wanted to before the series was announced. I just never got around to ordering it, or something else caught my eye. I hated the movie so badly that I give it a 2/10, but the comic still intrigues me.
Ace of Knaves
07-19-2009, 02:38 AM
I thought Wanted was alright. But it's an acquired taste I think. You either love it or hate it.
drmick
07-19-2009, 05:02 AM
I thought Wanted was alright. But it's an acquired taste I think. You either love it or hate it.
But do you not feel that that is the style/atmosphere they should be aiming for? Because of the humour and violence. The Blade films are kinda more serious in tone, and the violence is more cartoony as most of the villains are vampires.
Ace of Knaves
07-19-2009, 06:49 AM
Well yea it is very violent, and that shoot out at the end is insane. I'd love to seem something like that in Deadpool.
cerealkiller182
07-19-2009, 08:03 PM
Wanted was far too stylized for Deadpool. He doesnt need all the slo-mo.
Octoberist
07-19-2009, 08:58 PM
there's something in Wanted that I didn't like, and maybe it's because of its nihilistic nature:
The train scene was something that was kinda cool then..to my horror, all those passangers died as the train well from the bridge. Men, women and children. I guess that's cool..i don't know.
bullets
07-19-2009, 09:15 PM
http://thinkmcflythink.squarespace.com/movie-news/2009/7/17/ryan-reynolds-does-not-rule-out-deadpool.html
that's really cool that he isnt ruling out deadpool.
Spider-Vader
07-19-2009, 09:34 PM
No Elfman for score, I hate him now because he didn't include the Terminator theme in Salvation.
Ace of Knaves
07-20-2009, 02:24 AM
Wanted was far too stylized for Deadpool. He doesnt need all the slo-mo.
I was gonna mention the exact same thing, but then it slipped my mind :D
Wanted was a bit too stylized and fancy. Deadpool should be more visceral and natural looking I think. More gritty and grimey rather than shiney and polished.
Octoberist
07-20-2009, 02:26 AM
No Elfman for score, I hate him now because he didn't include the Terminator theme in Salvation.
Sometimes I'm so amazed on how average he's gotten as of late. What happened?
CelticPredator
07-20-2009, 03:16 AM
there's something in Wanted that I didn't like, and maybe it's because of its nihilistic nature:
The train scene was something that was kinda cool then..to my horror, all those passangers died as the train well from the bridge. Men, women and children. I guess that's cool..i don't know.
It was cool. It was very very cool.
And DP shouldnt be gritty.....the comic is pretty stylized. Not Wanted level, but its not realistic or anything. X-2 stylized would be just fine.
Octoberist
07-20-2009, 03:18 AM
i guess it was cool to see innocent people falling to their death in a train. lol
drmick
07-20-2009, 11:56 AM
I was gonna mention the exact same thing, but then it slipped my mind :D
Wanted was a bit too stylized and fancy. Deadpool should be more visceral and natural looking I think. More gritty and grimey rather than shiney and polished.
The final battle was seriously gritty in Wanted.
I'm pretty sure we didn't see anybody die on screen in the train sequence, so it is left to your imagination. No worse than the Shangai citizens in TF2, or the Vulcans in Star Trek or the Tatooiners in Star Wars really.
And no Americans got killed, and that's all that matters usually (they're may have been a backpacking American student on the train in all likelihood).
cerealkiller182
07-20-2009, 12:19 PM
I was gonna mention the exact same thing, but then it slipped my mind :D
Wanted was a bit too stylized and fancy. Deadpool should be more visceral and natural looking I think. More gritty and grimey rather than shiney and polished.
I agree
Minus Shock
07-20-2009, 12:34 PM
No Elfman for score, I hate him now because he didn't include the Terminator theme in Salvation.
I believe Cameron owns the rights to the classic theme we are used to, in fact I believe he wrote it, it wasn't used in Rise of the Machines either.
Minus Shock
07-20-2009, 12:37 PM
The final battle was seriously gritty in Wanted.
I'm pretty sure we didn't see anybody die on screen in the train sequence, so it is left to your imagination. No worse than the Shangai citizens in TF2, or the Vulcans in Star Trek or the Tatooiners in Star Wars really.
And no Americans got killed, and that's all that matters usually (they're may have been a backpacking American student on the train in all likelihood).
What happened on Tatooine? I mean Jabbas cruise ship blew up but other than that I can't think of what catastrophic event happened on Tattooine.
Spider-Vader
07-21-2009, 02:02 AM
I believe Cameron owns the rights to the classic theme we are used to, in fact I believe he wrote it, it wasn't used in Rise of the Machines either.
It was used during the end credits.
I'm pretty sure Brad Fiedel wrote the Terminator Theme.
StreetWarrior
07-21-2009, 11:13 AM
As long as Fox is in control of the film, it's near guaranteed to suck. That studio has screwed up more characters than every other film studio combined. F*** Fox.
drmick
07-21-2009, 11:53 AM
What happened on Tatooine? I mean Jabbas cruise ship blew up but other than that I can't think of what catastrophic event happened on Tattooine.
Oops, did I mean Alderaan? Whatever one got blown up in Ep4.
Ace of Knaves
07-22-2009, 02:43 AM
As long as Fox is in control of the film, it's near guaranteed to suck. That studio has screwed up more characters than every other film studio combined. F*** Fox.
Well X-1 and X-2 didn't suck. And I thought Daredevil was ok, the DC brilliant.
So the only misses Fox has had when it comes to comic book movies is the FFs and X-3. Maybe throw Wolverine into the mix too.
Elektra doesn't count because that just shouldn't of happened anyway.
Octoberist
07-22-2009, 03:42 AM
then again, they still have Dragon Ball, Street Fighter, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Hitman, Max Payne, and the countless of Rom Comcs they produce. And sorry, Wolverine was a movie that I thought was terrible. It might be entertaining to a degree but it's awful.
Seriously, they haven't had a seriously good movie in their body of work. I'm not talking about Fox Searchlight..Fox is filled with quick cash-in movies, it's not even funny. Not even an Oscar bait film. The closest would be Baz Lurrmann's Australia.
Johnny Drama
07-22-2009, 03:45 AM
then again, they still has Dragon Ball, Street Fighter, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Hitman, Max Payne, and the countless of Rom Comcs they produce.
Seriously, they haven't had a seriously good movie in their body of work. I'm not talking about Fox Searchlight..Fox is filled with quick cash-in movies, it's not even funny. Not even an Oscar bait film. The closest would be Baz Lurrmann's Australia.
It's quite sad honestly. I dream of a day when Marvel Studios does 100% of their films...
Ace of Knaves
07-22-2009, 03:53 AM
then again, they still have Dragon Ball, Street Fighter, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Hitman, Max Payne, and the countless of Rom Comcs they produce. And sorry, Wolverine was a movie that I thought was terrible. It might be entertaining to a degree but it's awful.
Seriously, they haven't had a seriously good movie in their body of work. I'm not talking about Fox Searchlight..Fox is filled with quick cash-in movies, it's not even funny. Not even an Oscar bait film. The closest would be Baz Lurrmann's Australia.
What about Kingdom of Heaven? That's brilliant.
Yea well **** Dragonball and Streetfighter. No other studio would even touch them anyway. So the fans of those franchises don't really have much to complain about I don't think. Sure those films were crap, but if it wasn't for Fox there would never of been films based on them in the first place.
It's not Fox, it's Rothman. 20th Century Fox used to make brilliant films until Rothman became the boss. And now apparently he isn't the top dog of 20th Century. He's in charge of Fox TV and Searchlight.
StreetWarrior
07-22-2009, 04:12 PM
And sorry, Wolverine was a movie that I thought was terrible. It might be entertaining to a degree but it's awful.
Seriously, they haven't had a seriously good movie in their body of work. I'm not talking about Fox Searchlight..Fox is filled with quick cash-in movies, it's not even funny.
Sir, I agree with you 100%. Wolverine was IMO one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Borederline retarded plot, barely passable acting (only Reynolds was good IMO), special effects from a Sci-Fi channel made-for-tv movie, butchering of characters and plots, and blatant animosity towards fans of the source-material.
I've said it before and I'll say it forever ... F*** Fox!
E-Man
07-22-2009, 04:58 PM
I didn't know that Fox was behind Dragonball:Evolution and Street Fighter. I'm not really surprised though. I really hope they don't turn Deadpool into something like AVP:Requiem. I want to actually be able to see the action this time.
Sarg92
07-22-2009, 04:59 PM
Anyone read a similar article about Reynolds saying he can play both Deadpool and the Green Lantern?
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a166701/reynolds-i-can-play-lantern-and-deadpool.html
cerealkiller182
07-22-2009, 05:31 PM
yes I think it was posted in the Green Lantern forums
Ace of Knaves
07-23-2009, 03:50 AM
Sir, I agree with you 100%. Wolverine was IMO one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Borederline retarded plot, barely passable acting (only Reynolds was good IMO), special effects from a Sci-Fi channel made-for-tv movie, butchering of characters and plots, and blatant animosity towards fans of the source-material.
I've said it before and I'll say it forever ... F*** Fox!
How was it a retarded plot?
And you thought Liev Shcriebers performance was "barely passable"?
And I guess you are talking about the "butchering" of Deadpool?
Well Deadpool was never intended to be in that film in the first place. Weapon XI was always gonna be in it. Fox got the writers to re-write Wilson into the film for the sole purpose of getting the door open for his own film.
And anyway, as a massive Deadpool fan I admit that using him as the experiment makes sense to the story.
StreetWarrior
07-23-2009, 11:01 PM
How was it a retarded plot?
And you thought Liev Shcriebers performance was "barely passable"?
And I guess you are talking about the "butchering" of Deadpool?
Well Deadpool was never intended to be in that film in the first place. Weapon XI was always gonna be in it. Fox got the writers to re-write Wilson into the film for the sole purpose of getting the door open for his own film.
And anyway, as a massive Deadpool fan I admit that using him as the experiment makes sense to the story.
My good sir, that film's plot had more holes than a battlefield after a bombing run. It was short, pointless action scenes strung together by long boring pointless segments with no purpose other than to move the almost non-existent plot onto the next action scene. This is not the thread to discuss the many, many problems with the film. I wanted to like Origins. I thought the initial trailer looked great. What we got however, was anything but.
Liev was passable IMO. He wasn't intimidating in the least and didn't really pull off that evil vibe too well. The "musician" who played Wraith was dead-awful, and Jackman brought no new depth to the character.
Things butchered in the film: Wolverine's memory loss (WTF was that about? A gunshot to the head? That's the magic fix-all?) Deadpool, Emma Frost, Weapon XII (I know Fox created him, but like Wolverine doesn't have enough villians to choose from) random insertion of Gambit, ZERO understanding of the character or his history... virtually all of it.
I respect your opinion, my good man, but please: Your expectations/taste are far, far higher than this.
Ace of Knaves
07-24-2009, 12:25 AM
Well I like all kinds of films yea. One day I could watch Schindlers List. The next day Wolverine.
It could of, SHOULD of been so much better. But I disagree with a lot of the things you say there.
Sure there was SOME plot holes, but not to the degree you suggest.
And I think you are in a very small minority when you say Liev was "passable". Pretty much everyone else thought he was immense in it.
Pointless cameo's? Blame the fans for that. Fox and the writers made the mistake to cater to the fans with those cameos.
And I'm a massive Deadpool fan, obviously. But I accepted Weapon XI because it made sense to the story. I'm not gonna be blinded by my fanboyism.
Would I of loved proper Deadpool in the movie? Of course? Was it ever gonna happen? No, seeing as Deadpool was never officially Deadpool until after he got killed and came back to life.
Docker2.0
07-24-2009, 10:23 PM
I agree Ace. It wasn't a Oscar winning movie but it wasn't as bad as people said. Believe me, if it was as bad as fanboys said, it would have made Watcmen money. :o
Low blow I know but still....................
Ace of Knaves
07-25-2009, 07:46 AM
:hehe:
I actually like Watchmen more than Wolverine to be honest.
But I remember saying back in January. Watchmen would be the better film, Wolverine would make more money.
I was right. Well, the first part comes down to opinion. But IMO I was right :D
But I do still like Wolverine, don't care what anyone says. It was better than the lame sex gag show that was TF2.
StreetWarrior
07-25-2009, 10:50 PM
:hehe:
But I do still like Wolverine... It was better than the lame sex gag show that was TF2.
Yeah... no.
Ace of Knaves
07-26-2009, 12:06 AM
Errr yea, it's called opinion.
My opinion is that TF 2 is one of the worst movies I've seen in years.
And before someone says that "Well you expected too much" crap. I LIKED the first one. But the second one? It was like a 8 year old ADHD sufferers wet dream.
StreetWarrior
07-27-2009, 09:33 AM
Errr yea, it's called opinion.
My opinion is that TF 2 is one of the worst movies I've seen in years.
And before someone says that "Well you expected too much" crap. I LIKED the first one. But the second one? It was like a 8 year old ADHD sufferers wet dream.
I'm done because this is borderline trolling and I'm NOT looking for a fight. You are entitled to your opinion. But in my opinion, Transformers 2, while not great, was the "Citizen Kane" of science fiction in comparison to Wolverine.
Spider-Fan
07-27-2009, 11:26 AM
I agree Ace. It wasn't a Oscar winning movie but it wasn't as bad as people said. Believe me, if it was as bad as fanboys said, it would have made Watcmen money. :o
Low blow I know but still....................
While I will be the first to say Watchmen was very flawed and wasn't great, the fact it made less money than Wolverine doesn't mean it was a worse movie. The BO measure of a film's quality vs another film's argument is not valid. BO doesn't work that way. Many factors could have contributed to it not performing well. Watchmen was not an established property on film, while Wolverine was. Wolverine was not R-rated. Etc. Quality has nothing to do with it. If it did, Titanic would be considered the best film ever.
For the record, I think Watchmen was better than Wolverine, but I am no Watchmen defender or anything. It was very flawed. But Wolverine was more flawed.
Ace of Knaves
07-27-2009, 12:45 PM
I'm done because this is borderline trolling and I'm NOT looking for a fight. You are entitled to your opinion. But in my opinion, Transformers 2, while not great, was the "Citizen Kane" of science fiction in comparison to Wolverine.
Trolling? Who me?
I'm giving my opinion. You are the one who disregarded my opinion with "Yea...no"
I didn't say you couldn't like TF 2. I'm just saying what I thought of it.
StreetWarrior
07-27-2009, 08:14 PM
Trolling? Who me?
I'm giving my opinion. You are the one who disregarded my opinion with "Yea...no"
I didn't say you couldn't like TF 2. I'm just saying what I thought of it.
No, man. I meant me. This really isn't the thread for me to keep popping into and expressing just how much I hated X-men Origins: Wolverine. You've been a real great sport and we managed to have an actual discussion without this thread resorting to name calling. It's all good, chief.
Ace of Knaves
07-28-2009, 03:10 AM
S'cool man. Peace.
WillardNation
07-30-2009, 09:37 PM
*subscribes*
bzuka
08-04-2009, 03:42 AM
[quote=The Ace of Knaves;16994010]Reynolds finally talks about the Deadpool movie. Sounds very promising.
i hope Reynolds don't do a bad turn to his funs
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bzuka
08-04-2009, 03:44 AM
[quote=The Ace of Knaves;16994010]Reynolds finally talks about the Deadpool movie. Sounds very promising.
yeh i hope too that Reynolds don't do a bad turn to his fans
Ace of Knaves
08-04-2009, 03:54 AM
Same here.
I don't think he has though, he's already said he is going to play both GL and Deadpool.
I think he took GL because it would probably be a big mid summer event movie.
Then he has Deadpool which I would imagine is a smaller budget, more modest movie like Blade. Not released in the middle of the summer, means more chance of being rated r. See I think Deadpool, if done accurately, would be more of a cult hit film anyway, rather than a blockbuster.
So Reynolds has got the big money maker in GL, and the more personal Deadpool movie that he wants to make simply because he loves the character and has been wanting to do for the better part of a decade.
As I've said before, Reynolds wouldn't wait 7 years for Deadpool to get made, it finally gets green lit then he jumps ship and ****s it off. Na, not gonna happen.
WillardNation
08-04-2009, 03:06 PM
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/ya-baby-brett-s-back-with-another-r-rated-brett-ratner-update-7615
I'm about 99% sure it would never happen, but I can't even put into words how irate I would be if Brett Ratner directed Deadpool. I am very confidant in saying that Ratner is easily the worst director out there.....ok, Uwe Boll is the worst but Ratner is definitely second.
WillardNation
08-04-2009, 03:08 PM
I do really enjoy when El Guapo's mocking of him though. Those articles are always pretty damn funny.
TheVileOne
08-04-2009, 03:12 PM
That article was unreadable. I hate Latino Review.
WillardNation
08-04-2009, 03:13 PM
well I'm pretty sure Latino Review hates you too
TheVileOne
08-04-2009, 03:16 PM
That's fine, as long as they don't abandon my hatred.
Their script reviews of He-man and voltron were awful.
WillardNation
08-04-2009, 03:18 PM
I never read them. I just go to there for news, not they're opinions.
Octoberist
08-04-2009, 03:30 PM
You have to give Latino Review some credit for pumping out some good news once in a while. Overall, however, their writing is mixed at best. I think the new female writer is probably their best.
WillardNation
08-04-2009, 03:36 PM
Latino Review and Slashfilm are my go to sites for movie news.
Spider-Vader
08-05-2009, 12:06 AM
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/ya-baby-brett-s-back-with-another-r-rated-brett-ratner-update-7615
I'm about 99% sure it would never happen, but I can't even put into words how irate I would be if Brett Ratner directed Deadpool. I am very confidant in saying that Ratner is easily the worst director out there.....ok, Uwe Boll is the worst but Ratner is definitely second.
If that happens, I will go up to Ratner on the streets & shank him.
S. Grundy
08-05-2009, 12:34 AM
Ratner isn't a bad director per say, he's more middling. He can frame a nice shot every now and then, it's just that his movies lack a real soul or heart to them.
Octoberist
08-05-2009, 02:47 AM
he's very paint-by-the numbers, but is able to get decent to good gigs due to his business skills. I really really think that Ratner is a better business man than director, which explains why he has so much pull in the biz.
Ace of Knaves
08-05-2009, 02:50 AM
That article gave me a head ache. So what has that got to do with Deadpool?
Chaos Bringer
08-05-2009, 11:19 AM
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/ya-baby-brett-s-back-with-another-r-rated-brett-ratner-update-7615
I'm about 99% sure it would never happen, but I can't even put into words how irate I would be if Brett Ratner directed Deadpool. I am very confidant in saying that Ratner is easily the worst director out there.....ok, Uwe Boll is the worst but Ratner is definitely second.
i liked Red Dragon. good movie, sick intro to it too!
WillardNation
08-05-2009, 12:36 PM
That article gave me a head ache. So what has that got to do with Deadpool?
Well he was talking about possibly directing more Marvel movies and they asked him if he would do Deadpool.
Spider-Vader
08-10-2009, 10:54 PM
Oh god. If they let him do another Marvel movie, let it be a direct to DVD animated one where he can have all the action he wants.
Eggyman
08-14-2009, 01:43 PM
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=328294
Vote Knaves!
You guys have voted for Reynolds at the 2009 Scream Awards right?
cerealkiller182
09-02-2009, 06:19 PM
Yea, just on principal too.
I was tempted to vote Simon Pegg too, but I didnt
Spider-Vader
09-02-2009, 07:02 PM
Yup I did. Reynolds, Blob & Gambit were the best parts of that movie.
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