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louiebling$
06-05-2009, 05:12 AM
Well we will be needing a News thread and set pics thread when they come.




Kevin Feige Talks Donald Blake and Thor

Source: http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/06/05/the-avengers-will-be-a-global-epic-will-smith-could-be-captain-america-and-thor-will-be-set-on-modern-era-earth/

Thor: Donald Blake won’t appear, but the film will take place more on contemporary Earth than Viking times.This makes me more interested in the project, since I’m not usually entertained in fantasy sword and sand type films. Feige describes the movie as “very much a Marvel superhero movie” but admits that “the movie audience it’s going to expand that definition more and more.” On casting Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Feig“It was like, ‘There’s no question that this is our guy.

Well for all those Wanting that Hemsworth CONFIRMATION... there you go :cwink:

Lobo
06-05-2009, 07:13 AM
I hope Feige is confirmation enough for some. I'm sure people will still await a press release from marvel that will never come, though.

Antonello Blueberry
06-05-2009, 07:27 AM
http://movieblog.ugo.com/movies/thor-captain-america-and-the-avengers-details-from-marvel-studios-kevin-feige

Q: Recently it's been announced that more of the Thor story will take place on Earth. Is it a contemporary earth or Viking times?

Feige: It'll be contemporary.

Q: How are you going to deal with the fish out of water aspect of it? Are you concerned at all about Thor dealing with the wacky modern day aspects of his life, being on a cell phone or something like that?

Feige: I am concerned about that and that's why we're not going to do that. We always think about, not in terms of “Thor,” but if you talk about fish out of water; if a character is goofy at any time he'll be goofy. If you bring in an idiot from the past he's going to come into the future and go [holding a recorder up to his face] “What is this? Hello?” That stuff is not funny and it's overdone. If Indiana Jones came to the future he's going to be cool. He's not going to be an idiot bumbling with things. There might be some fun humor out of him just getting something wrong for a minute, but he's going to play it cool and just not come off like an idiot. I think that Thor…if you look at [Jack] Kirby's Asgard, if you look at Walt Simonson's Asgard; they are technologically superior to us by far. They're not going to come and be flummoxed by much on Earth. There might be cultural differences that could be amusing or endearing, but he's not going to be talking to a lamppost for five minutes.

Q: Is Donald Blake going to be in the story and is he still going to be handicapped?

Feige: No.

Q: Will it still be recognizable as a what we understand to be a superhero movie or is it going to be closer to fantasy?

Feige: I think it's going to be very much a Marvel superhero movie, but I think to the movie audience it's going to expand that definition more and more. Again, we've got a forty four year old guy who's going to be a superhero in a movie and he puts on an armored suit. That didn't necessarily mean superhero to people. In that same way, I think, someone who's got superpowers coming to Earth and dealing with other character from his realm will come off very much as a big ass superhero movie. But it's going to expand that definition, I hope, in a way.

Q: Can you talk about the casting of Chris Hemsworth and what it was ultimately about this guy after looking at all these other actors?

Feige: You couldn't take your eyes off of him. When he did his auditioned he worked for it. He put himself on tape. He put himself on tape again and then did it again and then came in and sat with Branagh and then worked again with Branagh and then ultimately did a very late in the process screen test and there was no question. It was very much like going back to 1999 when Dougray Scott got injured on Mission Impossible 2 and we had to go back to the videotapes and suddenly we saw Hugh Jackman who came in and did a screen test and it was like, “There's no question that this is our guy.” In this case it was actually even cleaner with Chris because with Hugh he was like two feet taller than the character was supposed to be which was nerve racking, but Chris is six four and looks exactly Thor.

...

Q: Can you address some of the Thor casting rumors: Brian Blessed as Odin and Natalie Portman as the love interest?

Feige: Well, there's truth that we think that Natalie would be great for the love interest. There's truth in that Ken has had a long relationship with Brian Blessed. In terms of those particular roles, not necessarily.

Q: What character is the love interest? Is it Jane Foster?

Feige: If you had to guess who the human love interest would be in a Thor movie that's what it'll be. But the only things that are official are Chris and Tom [Hiddleston] and Tom Hiddleston's another one who we were very impressed with. He's almost like a young Ian McKellen in terms of being a great, great actor who's very good looking. He did indeed do a screen test for Thor and blew us away with his acting. Ken had worked with him on a number of things and he's just got that great sense. He was good as Thor. We were like, “Well, he's a little skinny,” and in he two weeks he really bulked out. It was very impressive, but we were just like, “There's something a little off about him” - but in a great way, a very Loki way. I think our burden with Loki is that I want….I think that Magneto is the best super villain in our movies to date. I think he's one of the best super villains in comics. I think one of the best super villains in comics is Dr Doom. I don't necessarily think that you saw that in the movies, unfortunately, what makes Dr Doom a great super villain. So that leaves us [with] Loki. Justin Hammer, Ivan (Whiplash) who Mickey Rourke plays, Obadiah Stane; all of these of course are good. Tim Roth as Abomination I loved. But in terms of a super villain that can carry over multiple franchises and really still be your movie super villain that you love to hate, Loki is going to be our guy.

Canis Sapiens
06-05-2009, 08:01 AM
Q: Is Donald Blake going to be in the story and is he still going to be handicapped?
Feige: No.

YES! :woot:

*does the victory dance*

Venom'sDad
06-05-2009, 09:26 AM
Well, I thought Thor would be done in a modern realistic way, separate from the comic world. This is the direction these films are taking. 60's origin & situation wont work in today's society... this is 2010 basically. As I have said in Caps thread, it may be sacrilegist, but Caps & his villains origins need for the most part, stay away from WWII... there are other ways, or in this case, other modern wars that can be use to give birth to Caps & his villains origins & motivations. I just can't imagine Red Skull still pist, with the same motivations toward Cap after 70 years. I'm just saying....

However, what really caught my eye in the movieblog Q&A, was the discussion involving LOKI. IMO, it appear Feige was stealthy implying LOKI crossing over to maybe the Avengers film, maybe even quick cameos or name dropping in films like IM2, CA:1stAv, and/or IH2 if there is one... maybe in reference to the Mandarin "Ten Rings Saga", or controlling Hulk, etc. The LOKI comment stuck out to me... that's all I'm saying.

Keyser Soze
06-05-2009, 09:33 AM
YES! :woot:

*does the victory dance*

I dunno, I kinda like the Donald Blake element of the character. And it's also a shame to see the fantasy setting of the first draft gone. But other than that, all good stuff here.

For Lobo, I'd say Feige is confirmation enough. I don't need a press release from Marvel. All I wanted was someone officially involved with the project to say he's in, rather than a "Chris Hemsworth close to inking a deal" getting the Chinese whispers effect and turning into "he's already confirmed for Thor" through third-party sources. I love the enthusiasm Feige seems to have for Hemsworth, and the Jackman comparison is encouraging.

I'm also really excited about the part where he talks about Hiddleston, and Loki's role in this film and beyond. It's cool they see Loki as their franchise villain.

Antonello Blueberry
06-05-2009, 09:38 AM
I dunno, I kinda like the Donald Blake element of the character. And it's also a shame to see the fantasy setting of the first draft gone. But other than that, all good stuff here.

I don't think the fantasy setting is gone, just that the viking part (which I wasn't crazy about) got replaced with modern Earth.
I hope the final result will end up better than the "Masters of the Universe" movie.

Hyperstorm
06-05-2009, 10:02 AM
Did they take down the interview? Wheneve I click the link it takes me to the main page of the blog and the latest entry there is the Land of the Lost review.

bunk
06-05-2009, 10:11 AM
I can't believe they're cutting the lamppost scene. Dammit!

Antonello Blueberry
06-05-2009, 10:31 AM
Did they take down the interview? Wheneve I click the link it takes me to the main page of the blog and the latest entry there is the Land of the Lost review.
They took it down because it was published before the agreed date and time.
It should appear later on several websites.
Superhero Hype included.

Humphrey Bogart
06-05-2009, 11:43 AM
Well, I thought Thor would be done in a modern realistic way, separate from the comic world. This is the direction these films are taking. 60's origin & situation wont work in today's society... this is 2010 basically. As I have said in Caps thread, it may be sacrilegist, but Caps & his villains origins need for the most part, stay away from WWII... there are other ways, or in this case, other modern wars that can be use to give birth to Caps & his villains origins & motivations. I just can't imagine Red Skull still pist, with the same motivations toward Cap after 70 years. I'm just saying....

However, what really caught my eye in the movieblog Q&A, was the discussion involving LOKI. IMO, it appear Feige was stealthy implying LOKI crossing over to maybe the Avengers film, maybe even quick cameos or name dropping in films like IM2, CA:1stAv, and/or IH2 if there is one... maybe in reference to the Mandarin "Ten Rings Saga", or controlling Hulk, etc. The LOKI comment stuck out to me... that's all I'm saying.

I'm not sure I follow. Thor's story is essentially him being arrogant, shortsighted ect and then being banished to earth by his Father for it. What would be so hard to fit? Same goes for Cap, he is a man out of time. First part of his movie deals with WW2 and where he came from, then we have him being discovered and released from suspended animation in our time. Whats hard to manage?

Also, if Donald Blake won't appear in this film whats the point of introducing Jane Foster? Sif is Thor's love interest, and Natalie Portan simply isn't suited for that role.

Venom'sDad
06-05-2009, 11:53 AM
I'm not arguing against Thor's banishment, I'm refering to him traveling the timeline(vikings). It's not necessary. Redemption can occur in the modern.

Humphrey Bogart
06-05-2009, 12:07 PM
^^^
Gotcha.

yoshimura
06-05-2009, 01:09 PM
Hey Thor experts, is this new information good or bad news?

Canis Sapiens
06-05-2009, 01:26 PM
Hey Thor experts, is this new information good or bad news?

I'm not a Thor expert by any means, but I think these news are very good! :yay:

Canis Sapiens
06-05-2009, 01:33 PM
I dunno, I kinda like the Donald Blake element of the character. And it's also a shame to see the fantasy setting of the first draft gone. But other than that, all good stuff here.

I never cared for Don Blake... and I always thought that the whole dynamics between him and Thor could be very confusing for the GA. They wouldn't know if Thor and Blake share the same body, same conscience, if they are two separate entities, that kind of stuff.

And while I think Don Blake was, at some point, necessary to teach Thor a humility lesson, after Thor gains his memories back, Don becomes just another superhero cliché, that obligatory weakness/secret identity.

Plus, he would take away a lot of Thor's screen time. :woot:

But don't get me wrong, I don't hate the guy. I just think that Thor doesn't need him.

Canis Sapiens
06-05-2009, 01:40 PM
I don't think the fantasy setting is gone, just that the viking part (which I wasn't crazy about) got replaced with modern Earth.
I hope the final result will end up better than the "Masters of the Universe" movie.

Yeah, I think they will only replace his banishment in viking-era Earth with a banishment in modern times Earth.

And I'm also worried about the "Masters of the Universe" effect. Although in that movie they never showed Eternia properly, and it seems that in the Thor movie they will show Asgard, in the first act at least (and hopefully in the third as well).

bossman550
06-05-2009, 02:31 PM
dammit i like the blake thing

Philly Phanboy
06-05-2009, 03:15 PM
dammit i like the blake thing

Maybe they were just too cheap to hire another actor. :huh: :oldrazz:

Aztec
06-05-2009, 03:44 PM
I for one am glad that there's no Blake. The whole "Shazam!" or "By the Powers of Gray Skull" elements of Thor were always very lame for my tastes. Let Thor be Thor and that's all like in The Ultimates.

What a great interview that was. I imagine we will be flooded with such interviews very soon since the gag order is to be lifted on all of the movie websites today(?) (or soon thereafter).

It did appear to me that Feige was hinting at Loki in The Avengers as well. I think he would be the most logical villain to face off against them. He was their first true villain in both the original Avengers and The Ultimates. Not to mention a team up of Red Skull and Loki would be a really great plotline (and very logical considering Nazi ideology).

I'm also glad to see that they will avoid the "fish out of water" jokes. I'd like them to keep the tone of this film rather serious. Thor doesn't strike me as particularly humorous unlike Iron Man.

I am a little upset that more of the film will not take place in Asgard. I would have liked a more LOTR type fantasy movie film, that ends up in our world. It just would have been a nice change of pace for a superhero film.

Eric Brooks
06-05-2009, 04:16 PM
not a big Thor fan but I definitley can't wait to see what they do with this movie.

Chewy
06-05-2009, 04:18 PM
What a great interview that was. I imagine we will be flooded with such interviews very soon since the gag order is to be lifted on all of the movie websites today(?) (or soon thereafter).
It'll all be the same interview, it was a roundtable ;)

Aztec
06-05-2009, 04:30 PM
It'll all be the same interview, it was a roundtable ;)

There are still some websites that have it up, so check around. I've always felt that the whole "Embargo" tactic was: A) Stupid and B) Pointless because there are ALWAYS sites that leak the info. It's already out and now the only sites that are missing out are the ones who actually followed the completely unnecessary, stupid, and pointless "embargo"!

Just release the info already!

yoshimura
06-05-2009, 04:36 PM
I am a little upset that more of the film will not take place in Asgard. I would have liked a more LOTR type fantasy movie film, that ends up in our world. It just would have been a nice change of pace for a superhero film.

Same here. Roh well

Chewy
06-05-2009, 04:39 PM
There are still some websites that have it up, so check around. I've always felt that the whole "Embargo" tactic was: A) Stupid and B) Pointless because there are ALWAYS sites that leak the info. It's already out and now the only sites that are missing out are the ones who actually followed the completely unnecessary, stupid, and pointless "embargo"!
Yeah, well now Marvel knows who to invite and who not to invite to the Thor set ;)

Leaking info that's embargoed = No longer on the studio's list of web journos to invite

louiebling$
06-05-2009, 04:50 PM
Didn't /Film just Report what UGO posted?

Chewy
06-05-2009, 04:58 PM
I think so, but /Film weren't invited in the first place

UGO posted many hours before the embargo lifted. In this case, the one day embargo was most likely for the benefit of all of the writers. It was so that they would have time to coherently write it and transcribe it and write their thoughts, and not just rush to be "first" posting the info in an effort to get hits. Posting it early and breaking embargo is super douchey and I would be surprised if Marvel invited UGO to future set visits

louiebling$
06-05-2009, 05:21 PM
Alright... thanks for the info Chewy :up:

Still A ThorFan
06-05-2009, 06:18 PM
Man, it gets better and better. I love the Loki info.

Vartha
06-06-2009, 10:30 AM
I'm not arguing against Thor's banishment, I'm refering to him traveling the timeline(vikings). It's not necessary. Redemption can occur in the modern.

My problem not having the Viking era is that it shows just how old Thor is and how long the Thor/Loki fighting has been going on, not to mention Thor receiving Mjolnir. That happens when he's rather young.

Canis Sapiens
06-06-2009, 02:10 PM
I agree with your concerns. But maybe, differently from the 1st draft, Thor won't be banished right after receiving Mjolnir

wobbly
06-06-2009, 08:36 PM
But in terms of a super villain that can carry over multiple franchises and really still be your movie super villain that you love to hate, Loki is going to be our guy.

That pretty much confirms they are at least thinking of using Loki for the Avengers too (would be fitting since he was the one responsible for them coming together in the comics).

Vartha
06-06-2009, 10:00 PM
I agree with your concerns. But maybe, differently from the 1st draft, Thor won't be banished right after receiving Mjolnir
Yeah but what are they gonna do til then. There's only some much you can do in the present AND on Earth, unless that's what they mean by an Ancient war on earth.

bossman550
06-07-2009, 12:25 AM
im just dissapointed to hear there will b no blake

Vartha
06-07-2009, 03:48 AM
Oh There's going to be a Blake, just not a LAME legged Blake.

Chewy
06-07-2009, 12:41 PM
Feige said no Blake, not no lame legged Blake

Vartha
06-07-2009, 03:01 PM
Feige said no Blake, not no lame legged Blake
Well Kevin doesn't say NO Blake just "NO", so "no" what no Blake or No lame Blake?

Q: Is Donald Blake going to be in the story and is he still going to be handicapped?

Feige: No.


Just saying Chewy. :D

Chewy
06-07-2009, 03:17 PM
He says no to the entire question

Vartha
06-07-2009, 05:19 PM
lol

Canis Sapiens
06-07-2009, 06:33 PM
Yeah, Feige's answer would be "Yes and no" if he meant a no lame Blake is in the picture.

Spider-ManHero12
06-07-2009, 06:33 PM
Great interview! This seems so promising, if you ask me. :up:

Chewy
06-08-2009, 12:32 AM
Feige also confirmed that Chris Hemsworth (http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/05/16/chris-hemsworth-officially-cast-as-kenneth-branaghs-thor/) and Tom Hiddleston (http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/05/18/where-are-all-the-stars-tom-hiddleston-also-joins-thor/) were officially cast in Thor. He spoke very highly about both actors, but focused more on Hiddleston, who plays the villain Loki. Feige explained that finding a classic villain that could be sustained over the course of many films and provide the hero with a challenge while also being a mirror of that hero himself was very tough. "Loki has those aspects." He also did say that Thor takes place on both modern Earth and other worlds like Asgard, confirming what we heard the other day about Donald Blake not being a part of the story and the setting be primarily Earth. And lastly, he said that director Kenneth Branagh would not let them use any classic Shakespearian dialogue like was often used in the comics.

We already know that Iron Man 2 is up next, then Thor, then Captain America, then The Avengers in the summer of 2012. Feige said that they're "ordered this way for a reason." And confirmed that Samuel Jackson and Scarlett Johansson as well as Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston are signed on for multiple movies or "multiple franchises," further extending that hint that Loki will be a villain who shows up quite often. Feige kept saying often that he'd love for audiences to have the same experience that comic book readers have - where characters make surprise appearances in issues they pick up almost out of nowhere.
SOURCE (http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/06/07/profile-on-marvel-studios-with-big-updates-from-kevin-feige/)

Keyser Soze
06-08-2009, 02:18 AM
Should we start taking bets on whether Loki will show up in Iron Man 2, or pop up during World War II in Captain America? ;)

Canis Sapiens
06-08-2009, 09:31 AM
You should sue them... or at least get a job as a consultant... that was YOUR idea, Keyser, I remember!

Eric Brooks
06-08-2009, 09:45 AM
so is this movie taking place on Asgard?

Canis Sapiens
06-08-2009, 10:10 AM
According to Kevin Feige, on Asgard and on modern Earth.

Eric Brooks
06-08-2009, 10:12 AM
According to Kevin Feige, on Asgard and on modern Earth.

hmmmm

a combination of both

I like it

:word:

Compi716
06-08-2009, 10:51 AM
And lastly, he said that director Kenneth Branagh would not let them use any classic Shakespearian dialogue like was often used in the comics.
Hmn...

chiefchirpa
06-08-2009, 11:15 AM
Why the Hmn, modern Thor comics don't have the Shakespearean dialogue anymore so it's not like Branagh being creative here.

nogap87
06-08-2009, 11:24 AM
I wanted Blake and at least a little Shakesperian dialogue. :csad:

Humphrey Bogart
06-08-2009, 11:34 AM
I don't really get the rationale behind leaving Blake entirely out. Thats kind of a big part of the story. I'm sure there is a way to get beyond the cheesier elements involved in it and leaving Blake out means leaving out characters that are connected to him and not Thor.

Chewy
06-08-2009, 11:56 AM
The rationale behind it is that they have 2 hours to convey to an audience who Thor is and what makes him unique, not a hundred or so issues to explore the dichotomy between Thor and Blake. And the reality of the situation is that a lot of the "Thor is corny" perception is a direct result of Blake

Vartha
06-08-2009, 11:57 AM
SOURCE (http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/06/07/profile-on-marvel-studios-with-big-updates-from-kevin-feige/)
Hmmm Wonder if they plan on using part of the idea they were going to use way back in the Hulk/Thor movie? In order for Thor to return to Asgard he had to do a certain amount of "Good Deeds"?
That was the BASIS for the TV show they wanted to do for Thor but because Thor wanted to Drink all the time they nixed the series. The same idea can still be used WITHOUT Blake in any form.

Canis Sapiens
06-08-2009, 12:09 PM
That could work. But it has a very delicate balance.

The problem is, Thor shouldn't do good deeds for selfish reasons, like returning to Asgard. He should do it because of his love for Earth, his will to protect the innocent or something like that.

But it could work if he started doing good for selfish reasons and then, as he knows Humanity better, has a change of heart and becomes a selfless, mature man, always trying to do the best for the right reasons.

Yeah, just like every character Tom Cruise has ever played. :oldrazz:

Vartha
06-09-2009, 07:53 AM
Well think about it. It would HELP Thor if he did have to do good deeds if he were with the Avengers, that's what they do.
Thor might be at the beginning of those deeds in his own movie.

Humphrey Bogart
06-09-2009, 02:55 PM
The rationale behind it is that they have 2 hours to convey to an audience who Thor is and what makes him unique, not a hundred or so issues to explore the dichotomy between Thor and Blake. And the reality of the situation is that a lot of the "Thor is corny" perception is a direct result of Blake


If it is a two hour movie the first hour or so could be used to convey everything one would need to know about Thor, Asgard, ect and why Odin saw fit to banish him to earth. The second half could then be used to show his redemption as he works to rebuild his character while partially confined to the body of Donald Blake. I'm sure the "corny" elements can be worked out, especially considering JMS's run on the comic.

Canis Sapiens
06-09-2009, 03:15 PM
But then, the audience would have only half a movie to know Blake, learn about his relationship with Thor, and see Thor getting used with aspects of mortal/modern life. All that, besides the villain arc and the final battle.

So much information and characters, so little time. I don't think it would work.

Spider-ManHero12
06-09-2009, 09:16 PM
Originally Posted by Chewy http://forums.superherohype.com/images/Drakon/SHHClassic/smallbuttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=17028569#post17028569)
SOURCE (http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/06/07/profile-on-marvel-studios-with-big-updates-from-kevin-feige/)
Hmmm, interesting. :up:

Ash Talon
06-10-2009, 01:07 AM
Donald Blake wasn't around for Simonson's run, and it's arguably the best run of the character.

Thor took on a secret identity, but it was as a construction worker. He was a huge guy, which makes sense to have one actor portray the character.

I think Odin banishing Thor to Earth is enough of a punishment. He doesn't need to trap him in a frail body as well.

I hope at least the first act of the movie takes place in Asgard. I wanna see some damn Frost Giants. Maybe Loki will invade Earth with some Asgardian forces? That would be pretty awesome! We're used to seeing superheroes vs supervillains. Maybe the redefined notion Feige is talking about is superhero vs supernatural/monstrous forces?

I like the idea of Loki being carried forward as an Avengers villain. It's respectful to the comics, although I don't think Loki will be cause of the Avengers forming. Loki will have to have some brand new tricks up his sleeve for the Avengers movie, though. He could turn the Hulk against the Avengers like in the comics, although I don't wanna just see the Hulk fighting the Avengers for the whole movie. It needs a more involved plot.

I could give 2 poops about Shakespearian dialogue for Thor. The current Thor comic ignores it and it's a good read. We don't need Olde English. Just get a little inspiration from LOTR. Thor can speak proper English without sounding too flowery.

protocida
06-10-2009, 01:56 PM
In the 1° draft of the Script...

... Thor is banished to Earth after an incident during his birthday. He's striped out of his divine power (Who's placed in Mjolnir) and send to Earth, were he becomes an slave in an Viking city.

Maybe they're keeping that?

Canis Sapiens
06-10-2009, 02:06 PM
I doubt that. According to the recent interviews, it seems that Thor will be banished to modern Earth.

Because of that, I also think he will not be banished right after he gets Mjolnir, as in the first draft, but centuries after that.

But of course, this is all speculation. We could all be wrong...

Vartha
06-10-2009, 06:31 PM
Yeah I wish I knew for sure what was going on with the script.

aka Kal el
06-10-2009, 11:07 PM
Same here. Roh well

It all comes down to Budget! If it's set in modern times that saves a huge amount for other things like special effects. Think more Real world less Asgard..........:word:

Vartha
06-11-2009, 08:02 AM
Well from what I'm hearing back when Vaughn was directing the 1st draft was at 300 mil, Marvel ordered it cut by 150 mil, after Iron-Man came out it was bumped up to 200 mil, so it's not really the money but possibly time they need.
There's alot to be covered no matter what they do with or without Blake, and personally I don't think Blake should be used until the end of the first movie if he's used at all.
If Marvel is wanting this to be their "lotr" then Asgard NEEDS to be IN the moive. It can be done cheaper than they think I mean each LotR film was pretty cheap if you stop and think about what they had in each movie.
I really think they should use a look that Walt,and JMS/Coipel, have used over the "theme park" look Kirby used, not that I'm not a fan of Kirby's Asgard just that something like that would cost more I would think.

Canis Sapiens
06-11-2009, 09:11 AM
Totally agree! :up:

chiefchirpa
06-11-2009, 10:03 AM
Setting it in ordinary, modern world will certainly save a lot of production money. I think that's one of the reasons why the script was changed.

Humphrey Bogart
06-11-2009, 12:36 PM
Donald Blake wasn't around for Simonson's run, and it's arguably the best run of the character.

Great point.

TheCorpulent1
06-11-2009, 12:45 PM
I don't think that's specifically because Blake wasn't around. JMS is currently proving that fun stuff can come of Blake's involvement. The Doctors Without Borders thing was cool, and now he's a local community doc for Broxton.

Vartha
06-11-2009, 01:00 PM
Setting it in ordinary, modern world will certainly save a lot of production money. I think that's one of the reasons why the script was changed.
I don't have to big of a problem with that, it's not having Asgard at all.

donk70
06-14-2009, 04:10 PM
Alexander Skarsgard Reveals on Playing "Thor"

"True Blood" actor Alexander Skarsgard was previously in-talks for the title role in the upcoming "Thor" film. He seemed like a great fit, being 32-years-old, 6'4 tall, blonde, voted sexiest man in Sweden, and being the son of Stellan Skarsgard. But the role eventually went to Chris Hemsworth (Star Trek).

Now, Skarsgard tells MTV News that he was very close to being cast. So close, that he even filmed an audition in the complete Thor costume, hammer and all. "Yeah," he said. "That was pretty fun."

Skarsgard added that he is still hopeful that one day he might land another comic book-based role. And since Kevin Feige is planning on briging back actors who auditioned for "Thor" for other Marvel role, we might still see Skarsgard as a superhero.

"It depends on the circumstances," Skarsgard said of possible roles in "Captain America" or "The Avengers." "Who the director is, and what the character is. But of course [I'd be interested in looking into it]. I think it's every little boy's dream; it would be a person's dream to play an action hero."
http://www.**************.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=7952

ArmsHeldOut
06-14-2009, 05:11 PM
Donald Blake wasn't around for Simonson's run, and it's arguably the best run of the character.

Donald Blake was around briefly in the very first issue of Simonson's run. During the initial fight with Beta Ray Bill, Thor prematurely reverted back into Blake, enabling Bill to take the upper hand and claim Mjolnir. So in essence, one could say that Blake's involvement served as a catalyst for all that happened thereafter.

aka Kal el
06-15-2009, 07:50 PM
The rationale behind it is that they have 2 hours to convey to an audience who Thor is and what makes him unique, not a hundred or so issues to explore the dichotomy between Thor and Blake. And the reality of the situation is that a lot of the "Thor is corny" perception is a direct result of Blake

Huzzah!!:word:

chiefchirpa
06-16-2009, 05:41 AM
Alexander Skarsgard Reveals on Playing "Thor"

"True Blood" actor Alexander Skarsgard was previously in-talks for the title role in the upcoming "Thor" film. He seemed like a great fit, being 32-years-old, 6'4 tall, blonde, voted sexiest man in Sweden, and being the son of Stellan Skarsgard. But the role eventually went to Chris Hemsworth (Star Trek).

Now, Skarsgard tells MTV News that he was very close to being cast. So close, that he even filmed an audition in the complete Thor costume, hammer and all. "Yeah," he said. "That was pretty fun."

Skarsgard added that he is still hopeful that one day he might land another comic book-based role. And since Kevin Feige is planning on briging back actors who auditioned for "Thor" for other Marvel role, we might still see Skarsgard as a superhero.

"It depends on the circumstances," Skarsgard said of possible roles in "Captain America" or "The Avengers." "Who the director is, and what the character is. But of course [I'd be interested in looking into it]. I think it's every little boy's dream; it would be a person's dream to play an action hero."
http://www.**************.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=7952

Wait for the Sentry (blond - Marvel loves blond so much, long hair, tall) if he does go big on comics.

FaT_tONle
06-16-2009, 09:51 AM
Is Thor still going to be living like a human being on Earth? Interacting with ordinary people? Or is he still going to walk around in the costume and the wig? He might look out of place is all I am saying.

Judson Caspian
06-16-2009, 01:01 PM
Hi, I'm Kevin Feige. Donald Blake is not going to be in the film and I won't explain why.

Keyser Soze
06-16-2009, 02:32 PM
http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=21619

Jonah Weiland: Joe, we’ve spent the last couple of days talking Marvel’s publishing plans, so let's move to the world of Hollywood, an area Marvel has been staking a claim in pretty dramatically over the past few years. Let’s talk about the day you spent with “Thor” director Kenneth Branagh. You went on a a creative retreat with him, did you not?

Joe Quesada: It’s funny that you’re bringing this up as I’m leaving for LA on Monday for the week. I’ll be immersed in Marvel Hollywood business. Someone tell Scarlett I’m on my way! [laughs]

But yes, I sure did. We had one big creative meeting with the Marvel Creative Committee, which now works on all of our movies and I have the honor to be a part of. We sat with Kenneth and discussed the "Thor" movie and the overarching story of what that's going to be, just to give our input before anything was put down to paper by screenwriters.

And it was one of the highlights of my time here at Marvel because not only did Branagh sit there and give you the story beat for beat, he and [Marvel Studios head] Kevin Feige formed a great team. It was performance art. Kevin would give us the establishment of the shot and the situation: "Here we are. We're in (take your pick of location). And here's Odin and he’s coming up to (pick a character)." And then Kenneth would come in and give you the color commentary. "Odin has an air of majesty to him" and he'd act out the Odin part or the Thor part. So we sat there and literally got a three-hour one-man show from Kenneth Branagh. It was fantastic. People pay a lot of money for that kind of performance by one of the world’s greatest living actors.

And of course, he's got that great, charming British accent, so it makes it all go down easy too. [laughs] He could have said anything, and we would have said, "Yeah. Make that." He has such a passion for the material, and he's sitting there describing things from the Kirby run and things from the Simonson run, citing places where the mythology conflicted in Marvel history and how we're going to streamline it. It was just fascinating to watch.

As much as this may sadden Kenneth, he reminded me a lot of Mark Millar. He has a very charming, yet mischievous manner about him that makes him instantly likable.

After that, I was lucky enough about a month ago to see Kenneth here in New York City. We had no idea he was in town until we got a call from some of our guys at Marvel West saying, "Hey, Kenneth is in town, and he just wanted to stop by the office and see what it was like." He came up here and literally charmed the pants off of everyone. The people in the bullpen were literally out of their minds sitting there and talking with him. And then he came into my office, we closed my door and started talking casting.

Jonah Weiland: Do you have a recording of that conversation you’d mind sharing?

Joe Quesada: Well, you know at least one piece of the casting. They announced Loki. But we talked about possible Odins and other characters. What Kenneth has in mind is pretty cool. We'll see. People have to be talked to, and we'll see who we end up with.

Jonah Weiland: We’ve heard about a lot of these early creative presentations, that some directors are very animated – jumping up on chairs while they're talking. What kind of director is Kenneth Branagh? Was he really animated or more reserved?

Joe Quesada: Kenneth sat in his chair. I'll give him that. But of course he's very Shakespearean in his delivery. He'd sit there and give us the emotions between the characters as they are in scenes – what the character's motivation is in that particular moment and how it relates to the overarching story of the movie. He's definitely about character, which is the quintessential trait you have to have to understand the Marvel characters. It's not just big hammers and capes and things like that. It's about what makes the character tick. There's definitely a reason for Thor, a reason for him being and a very deep family relationship and story in the movie that I think is going to be very cool. Oh yeah, and there’s reasons and motivations for him to hit people with his hammer… hard!

Jonah Weiland: Is "Thor" going to be a tougher sell than any other Marvel Studios movie to date?

Joe Quesada: I think it's going to be on the surface. We had the same conversation in internally about "Iron Man." We knew Iron Man wasn't as recognizable to most people not into comics. He's not Spider-Man. He's certainly becoming that, but we worked very hard here at Marvel and started doing things like the Iron Man digital animation shorts, I worked on those with Blur Studios and Craig Kyle over at Marvel West. Those did really, really well for us online. They were basically designed to introduce Iron Man to kids by showing him in the Marvel Universe interacting with our characters, and I think we have the same work ahead of us with Thor. We'll be getting out there. We've got plans already to get Thor's name out within a younger group of kids. I think the upcoming "Super Hero Squad" and "Avengers Animated" shows are going to do wonders to get that across, and then we're working on a couple of ancillary things here and there to boost the desire for kids in particular to know more about Thor and the general public as well. Let me add that the portrayal of Thor in Super Hero Squad is my absolute favorite.

TheCorpulent1
06-16-2009, 02:37 PM
Hmm, being saddened at a comparison to Mark Millar makes me love Kenneth Branagh so much more. :)

Nice that they'll be giving Thor a big push for the movie. I hope he catches on with more people. I mean, he should so long as it's not more of him getting his ass kicked up, down, and sideways like in Hulk vs. Thor.

Keyser Soze
06-16-2009, 02:39 PM
I'd just like to address a real pet peeve of mine:

"He came up here and literally charmed the pants off of everyone."

Did he, literally? Did he literally get everyone in the Marvel offices to remove their pants for him?

TheCorpulent1
06-16-2009, 02:42 PM
Haha, that bugged me too. Gave me a mental picture of Branagh and a pantsless Quesada standing around at Marvel's offices.

Mister Sinister
06-16-2009, 02:59 PM
I literally want to kill people who misuse that word.

spider-neil
06-16-2009, 03:26 PM
I'd just like to address a real pet peeve of mine:

"He came up here and literally charmed the pants off of everyone."

Did he, literally? Did he literally get everyone in the Marvel offices to remove their pants for him?

to be fair 'figuratively' doesn't roll off the tounge as well.

"He came up here and figuratively charmed the pants off of everyone."

hmmm...doesn't have the same kind of punch.

how about 'metaphorically'...

"He came up here and metaphorically charmed the pants off of everyone."

...nope, still lacks that 'zing'

TheCorpulent1
06-16-2009, 03:42 PM
You could just say "He came up here and charmed the pants off everyone." No embellishment required.

I can't believe we're scrutinizing this so much. It literally boggles my mind. :o

Rich Santoro
06-16-2009, 03:54 PM
Your mind is boggled??? Woah... I am literally blown away by that. :hehe:

TheCorpulent1
06-16-2009, 03:56 PM
Yes, literally. It's playing Boggle with my spleen. My kidneys may show up later, but you know how those guys can be.

Chewy
06-16-2009, 04:18 PM
I'd just like to address a real pet peeve of mine:

"He came up here and literally charmed the pants off of everyone."

Did he, literally? Did he literally get everyone in the Marvel offices to remove their pants for him?
Maybe it was casual Friday

Project862006
06-16-2009, 04:26 PM
In the latest edition of Joe Quesada’s web column Cup ‘O Joe, the Marvel Editor-in-Chief talks about Thor

We had one big creative meeting with the Marvel Creative Committee, which now works on all of our movies and I have the honor to be a part of. We sat with Kenneth and discussed the “Thor” movie and the overarching story of what that’s going to be, just to give our input before anything was put down to paper by screenwriters. And it was one of the highlights of my time here at Marvel because not only did Branagh sit there and give you the story beat for beat, he and [Marvel Studios head] Kevin Feige formed a great team. It was performance art. Kevin would give us the establishment of the shot and the situation: “Here we are. We’re in (take your pick of location). And here’s Odin and he’s coming up to (pick a character).” And then Kenneth would come in and give you the color commentary. “Odin has an air of majesty to him” and he’d act out the Odin part or the Thor part. So we sat there and literally got a three-hour one-man show from Kenneth Branagh. It was fantastic. People pay a lot of money for that kind of performance by one of the world’s greatest living actors.” … “He’s very Shakespearean in his delivery. He’d sit there and give us the emotions between the characters as they are in scenes – what the character’s motivation is in that particular moment and how it relates to the overarching story of the movie. He’s definitely about character, which is the quintessential trait you have to have to understand the Marvel characters. It’s not just big hammers and capes and things like that. It’s about what makes the character tick. There’s definitely a reason for Thor, a reason for him being and a very deep family relationship and story in the movie that I think is going to be very cool. Oh yeah, and there’s reasons and motivations for him to hit people with his hammer… hard!

R_Hythlodeus
06-17-2009, 06:13 PM
Alexander Skarsgard Reveals on Playing "Thor"

"True Blood" actor Alexander Skarsgard was previously in-talks for the title role in the upcoming "Thor" film. He seemed like a great fit, being 32-years-old, 6'4 tall, blonde, voted sexiest man in Sweden, and being the son of Stellan Skarsgard. But the role eventually went to Chris Hemsworth (Star Trek).

Now, Skarsgard tells MTV News that he was very close to being cast. So close, that he even filmed an audition in the complete Thor costume, hammer and all. "Yeah," he said. "That was pretty fun."

Skarsgard added that he is still hopeful that one day he might land another comic book-based role. And since Kevin Feige is planning on briging back actors who auditioned for "Thor" for other Marvel role, we might still see Skarsgard as a superhero.

"It depends on the circumstances," Skarsgard said of possible roles in "Captain America" or "The Avengers." "Who the director is, and what the character is. But of course [I'd be interested in looking into it]. I think it's every little boy's dream; it would be a person's dream to play an action hero."
http://www.**************.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=7952

I definitly could see skaarsgard as captain america. he is young and build enough. he may not be american, but who cares? michael chiklis wasn´t jewish einther and I had to accept him as ben grimm.

Spider-ManHero12
06-17-2009, 08:26 PM
Skaarsgard as Captain America would work greatly, IMO! :up:

Spider-ManHero12
06-17-2009, 08:30 PM
http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=21619

Jonah Weiland: Joe, we’ve spent the last couple of days talking Marvel’s publishing plans, so let's move to the world of Hollywood, an area Marvel has been staking a claim in pretty dramatically over the past few years. Let’s talk about the day you spent with “Thor” director Kenneth Branagh. You went on a a creative retreat with him, did you not?

Joe Quesada: It’s funny that you’re bringing this up as I’m leaving for LA on Monday for the week. I’ll be immersed in Marvel Hollywood business. Someone tell Scarlett I’m on my way! [laughs]

But yes, I sure did. We had one big creative meeting with the Marvel Creative Committee, which now works on all of our movies and I have the honor to be a part of. We sat with Kenneth and discussed the "Thor" movie and the overarching story of what that's going to be, just to give our input before anything was put down to paper by screenwriters.

And it was one of the highlights of my time here at Marvel because not only did Branagh sit there and give you the story beat for beat, he and [Marvel Studios head] Kevin Feige formed a great team. It was performance art. Kevin would give us the establishment of the shot and the situation: "Here we are. We're in (take your pick of location). And here's Odin and he’s coming up to (pick a character)." And then Kenneth would come in and give you the color commentary. "Odin has an air of majesty to him" and he'd act out the Odin part or the Thor part. So we sat there and literally got a three-hour one-man show from Kenneth Branagh. It was fantastic. People pay a lot of money for that kind of performance by one of the world’s greatest living actors.

And of course, he's got that great, charming British accent, so it makes it all go down easy too. [laughs] He could have said anything, and we would have said, "Yeah. Make that." He has such a passion for the material, and he's sitting there describing things from the Kirby run and things from the Simonson run, citing places where the mythology conflicted in Marvel history and how we're going to streamline it. It was just fascinating to watch.

As much as this may sadden Kenneth, he reminded me a lot of Mark Millar. He has a very charming, yet mischievous manner about him that makes him instantly likable.

After that, I was lucky enough about a month ago to see Kenneth here in New York City. We had no idea he was in town until we got a call from some of our guys at Marvel West saying, "Hey, Kenneth is in town, and he just wanted to stop by the office and see what it was like." He came up here and literally charmed the pants off of everyone. The people in the bullpen were literally out of their minds sitting there and talking with him. And then he came into my office, we closed my door and started talking casting.

Jonah Weiland: Do you have a recording of that conversation you’d mind sharing?

Joe Quesada: Well, you know at least one piece of the casting. They announced Loki. But we talked about possible Odins and other characters. What Kenneth has in mind is pretty cool. We'll see. People have to be talked to, and we'll see who we end up with.

Jonah Weiland: We’ve heard about a lot of these early creative presentations, that some directors are very animated – jumping up on chairs while they're talking. What kind of director is Kenneth Branagh? Was he really animated or more reserved?

Joe Quesada: Kenneth sat in his chair. I'll give him that. But of course he's very Shakespearean in his delivery. He'd sit there and give us the emotions between the characters as they are in scenes – what the character's motivation is in that particular moment and how it relates to the overarching story of the movie. He's definitely about character, which is the quintessential trait you have to have to understand the Marvel characters. It's not just big hammers and capes and things like that. It's about what makes the character tick. There's definitely a reason for Thor, a reason for him being and a very deep family relationship and story in the movie that I think is going to be very cool. Oh yeah, and there’s reasons and motivations for him to hit people with his hammer… hard!

Jonah Weiland: Is "Thor" going to be a tougher sell than any other Marvel Studios movie to date?

Joe Quesada: I think it's going to be on the surface. We had the same conversation in internally about "Iron Man." We knew Iron Man wasn't as recognizable to most people not into comics. He's not Spider-Man. He's certainly becoming that, but we worked very hard here at Marvel and started doing things like the Iron Man digital animation shorts, I worked on those with Blur Studios and Craig Kyle over at Marvel West. Those did really, really well for us online. They were basically designed to introduce Iron Man to kids by showing him in the Marvel Universe interacting with our characters, and I think we have the same work ahead of us with Thor. We'll be getting out there. We've got plans already to get Thor's name out within a younger group of kids. I think the upcoming "Super Hero Squad" and "Avengers Animated" shows are going to do wonders to get that across, and then we're working on a couple of ancillary things here and there to boost the desire for kids in particular to know more about Thor and the general public as well. Let me add that the portrayal of Thor in Super Hero Squad is my absolute favorite. Wow, really cool interview! :up:

aka Kal el
06-17-2009, 10:19 PM
Wait for the Sentry (blond - Marvel loves blond so much, long hair, tall) if he does go big on comics.

Actually I suggested him for Cap(see Generation Kill) He is the spitting image of Brubaker's Steve Rogers. The only concern I have is with his height.:word:

louiebling$
06-17-2009, 11:00 PM
Edit

chiefchirpa
06-18-2009, 12:52 PM
Actually I suggested him for Cap(see Generation Kill) He is the spitting image of Brubaker's Steve Rogers. The only concern I have is with his height.:word:

Steve Rogers can't be non-American. Marvel (Kevin Feige) has said that clearly.

So Skarsgard, Worthington for Steve Rogers -> no chance.

Also, his face is too skinny to be Steve. As drawn by Steve Epting, Steve Rogers has a relatively wide chin/jaw.

Figs
06-18-2009, 09:28 PM
Cool news about Branagh and how he acted parts out to them as he was explaining scenes.

Hopefully all you hardcore Thor fans get a great movie. I never got around to getting into Thor but am overall a big Marvel fan and have to admit that I'm excited about this movie.

Still A ThorFan
06-18-2009, 10:21 PM
Take that Captain America BS to his own thread.

Obi-Ron
06-18-2009, 11:42 PM
I'd just like to address a real pet peeve of mine:

"He came up here and literally charmed the pants off of everyone."

Did he, literally? Did he literally get everyone in the Marvel offices to remove their pants for him?

Yeah, way to make yourself sound like an idiot in an interview. :whatever:

chamber-music
06-19-2009, 05:51 AM
He's definitely about character, which is the quintessential trait you have to have to understand the Marvel characters. It's not just big hammers and capes and things like that. It's about what makes the character tick. There's definitely a reason for Thor, a reason for him being and a very deep family relationship and story in the movie that I think is going to be very cool. Oh yeah, and there’s reasons and motivations for him to hit people with his hammer… hard!

This is the part that caught my eye. Branagh always seems to fully devote himself to whatever his working on be it Shakespeare or Wallander and it seems like he has with Thor as well.

I think one of the biggest problems alot of fanboys have had since the whole comic movie boom in the late 90s is that the directors don't get the characters and try and twist them to suit whatever purpose or identity they believe they should have instead of what works for the character. It seems Branagh gets that the characters is what drive the story :up:

Also it seems like Branagh commands quite alot of respect and admiration from the Marvel folks which is always a good sign. Weaker not respected directors usually get bullied into adding stuff to the movie they usually wouldn't.

R_Hythlodeus
06-19-2009, 06:09 AM
I think one of the biggest problems alot of fanboys have had since the whole comic movie boom in the late 90s is that the directors don't get the characters and try and twist them to suit whatever purpose or identity they believe they should have instead of what works for the character.

While I certainly see that happening in some parts of the Spider-Man movies, those are the only examples that I can imagine right now. What do you mean? While Daredevil, Fantastic Four or Wolverine were really bad movies, I don´t think that the directors necessarily "didn´t get the characters", It just were bad scripts and/or horrible acting

chamber-music
06-19-2009, 06:33 AM
While I certainly see that happening in some parts of the Spider-Man movies, those are the only examples that I can imagine right now. What do you mean? While Daredevil, Fantastic Four or Wolverine were really bad movies, I don´t think that the directors necessarily "didn´t get the characters", It just were bad scripts and/or horrible acting

Thats not my personal opinion that directors of comic book movies don't get the characters but that seems to be the view of alot of fanboys from what i've seen aound of these boards through the years.

They voice their opinion of directors not unserstanding the chracters as shown by the charcters role in the movies, who they cast in the role, how they act in the role which is overall controlled by the director of the movie.

I'm just saying that from branaghs comments his views is that character drives the story.

Khemik@L
06-19-2009, 08:07 AM
Skaarsgard as Captain America would work greatly, IMO! :up:

Is Cap America That tall? Does it matter how tall he is?

Spider-Vader
06-19-2009, 08:46 PM
No. Wolverine isn't short in the movies & no one complains....anymore.

TheCorpulent1
06-20-2009, 04:08 PM
Might be kind of awkward to have a Thor who's significantly shorter than Cap, though. But Hemsworth and Skarsgaard are about the same height (I think there's a 1-inch difference), so it's not a big deal.

Personally, I don't think Skarsgaard has a good look for Cap. I wouldn't hate it if he were cast or anything, but he wouldn't be my first pick.

Spider-Vader
06-20-2009, 11:07 PM
Yeah I think Thor should be the tallest Avenger... Besides Hulk.

Chewy
06-20-2009, 11:10 PM
As much as I like Skars he is all kinds of wrong for Cap

louiebling$
06-21-2009, 03:55 AM
As much as I like Skars he is all kinds of wrong for Cap
And he's ALL kinds of Right for The Sentry :o

Sawyer
06-24-2009, 12:48 AM
Am I the only one getting sick of all the Skarsgaard love?



I probably am... :csad:

louiebling$
06-24-2009, 01:13 AM
Am I the only one getting sick of all the Skarsgaard love?



I probably am... :csad:
yes now bask in your shame :o

ddddeeee
06-24-2009, 06:29 PM
Am I the only one getting sick of all the Skarsgaard love?



I probably am... :csad:

Don't see the fuss myself either.

Chewy
06-24-2009, 08:22 PM
Interview w/ Clifton Collins Jr

You mentioned Thor recently on your Twitter page. What's happening with that?
"Hmmm, Thor, I don't know [laughs]. That's kind of where I have to leave it unfortunately. Everybody asks, it's just something that's very hush-hush."

Did you go back and do some research with the old Marvel Comics?
"There's a lot of fun stuff in Thor based on the comic book and Celtic folklore, history and stuff like that. For me, doing that kind of research... I love doing any kind of research. It's like going back to history class, I didn't do well at history so now's the chance to redeem myself."

It sounds like a very different type of superhero film, whether you're in it or not.
"It's going to be great. It's Kenneth Branagh at the helm, he's a badass."SOURCE (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a161649/collins-talks-trek-thor-inception.html)

louiebling$
06-24-2009, 08:54 PM
"And he is Badass"..... Yes we know :cool:

I honestly think he was cast.

louiebling$
06-24-2009, 08:55 PM
"And he is Badass"..... Yes we know :cool:

I honestly think he was cast.

Project862006
06-24-2009, 09:44 PM
he is good actor and all but he looks nothing like anybody from Thor lol

is there a Mexican in the comics or something

ddddeeee
06-24-2009, 10:27 PM
"Hmmm, Thor, I don't know [laughs]. That's kind of where I have to leave it unfortunately. Everybody asks, it's just something that's very hush-hush."

Yeah, seems like he was cast to me.

TheCorpulent1
06-25-2009, 08:57 AM
he is good actor and all but he looks nothing like anybody from Thor lol

is there a Mexican in the comics or something
Eh, dye his hair blonde and I think you've got the makings of a solid Fandral. ;)

But realistically, you're right, he doesn't look like anybody except maybe Hogun, and we know they're skewing more toward the Asian side for him. Collins'll probably play some makeup-heavy role. I could see him as a digitally enlarged frost giant or something.

Philly Phanboy
06-25-2009, 11:33 AM
Why are people speculating that Clifton Collins could only be one of the warriors three? Coming right from Star Trek I wonder if Collins might be more looked at as an actor that they could gussy up with prosthetic makeup like to play Malekith.

TheCorpulent1
06-25-2009, 12:00 PM
I didn't even know Malekith's in the movie, but I'd be down with Collins playing him. He's got the build for it--tall, lean, but still imposing.

Chewy
06-25-2009, 01:13 PM
In the first draft Loki sent Malekith and his forces down to Earth to kill Thor while he was "human"

And I've been saying that Collins could be playing Malekith for a little while now :)

louiebling$
06-29-2009, 10:42 PM
Didn't see this posted:

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/06/29/brian-bendis-describes-kenneth-branaghs-take-on-thor-praises-iron-man-2-script/

Canis Sapiens
06-29-2009, 10:47 PM
Must.. read... this... new... draft.


Anyways, nice find!

bunk
06-29-2009, 10:48 PM
Awesome.

louiebling$
06-29-2009, 10:52 PM
Edit

TheCorpulent1
06-30-2009, 08:30 AM
I'm glad they've got some bona fide comic people involved in the process, even though I'm personally not a fan of Bendis. He's right that it's just ludicrous for the Hollywood types to try and adapt decades-old characters and stories without even reading up on them, though.

Chewy
07-02-2009, 12:45 PM
Amid a flurry of online reports surrounding actor and new #1 CMT award winning director, Clifton Collins Jr., and the recent speculation that Collins Jr. may be appearing in the Marvel Studios comic book adaptation, Thor, word directly from Clifton on July 1, 2009 now confirms that the Capote, Crank 2, and Star Trek actor is not in Thor as he told TheDeadbolt. Although the month of June was filled with rumors, speculation, and news that Clifton Collins Jr. was seen in the vicinity of Thor and a confirmation that he had a meeting for a role in the Kenneth Branagh directed comic book adaptation, the beginning of July begins with exclusive word that Clifton Collins Jr. isn't involved in Thor.

In a follow up to our recent exclusive one-on-one (http://www.thedeadbolt.com/news/105868/clifton_collins_jr_chicken_fried_interview.php) with Clifton, when asked about Thor and the latest on his involvement with the upcoming 2011 comic book adaptation, starring newcomer Chris Hemsworth as the mighty Thor, Collins Jr. revealed that he isn't involved.
So what's the latest update?

"Absolutely nothing," said Clifton. "I have nothing to do with that piece." Despite being active on Twitter with updates that were perceived as hints of his involvement in Thor, Collins Jr. told TheDeadbolt that Thor is now in his rear view acting mirror. "That was a long time ago," admitted Clifton who will soon be seen in the long awaited Troy Duffy helmed Boondock Saints II: All Saints Day. "I wasn't really getting into it," Collins Jr. elaborated on Thor. "I was just preparing stuff. It's a fantastic director, a great piece, but I have absolutely nothing to do with it."

Following up on the Thor related Twitter activity and his study of Thor, the CMT award winning director of the Zac Brown Band's video for "Chicken Fried" gave TheDeadbolt insight into why he mentioned on Twitter that he was studying Thor. "I study everything a lot," Clifton revealed in looking back on his Twitter updates and his meeting for Thor. "I like to get into it and it's been hard to juggle stuff with the videos and everything else. But I'm learning and I'm getting better at it."

When asked if he could tell us the specific Thor character that he read for in the upcoming comic book adaptation, Clifton Collins Jr. was bound by the mighty Marvel in that he couldn't tell us what Thor character was potentially up for Clifton Collins Jr. grabs.

As for the other projects on Clifton's roster, which includes the upcoming Mike Judge project Extract, the L.A. born actor couldn't say much other than to say that it's a surprise and to give fans a general heads up on what's to come for his next two projects. "This one is cool and the next one may see some awards. It's pretty dope."

Since we spoke to Clifton the day that Michael Jackson passed away and were able to follow up less than a week later, although Clifton won't be going to the funeral, he and others in the business are still feeling the tragic loss throughout the entertainment community.

Be sure to check out our exclusive one-on-one (http://www.thedeadbolt.com/news/105868/clifton_collins_jr_chicken_fried_interview.php) with Clifton Collins Jr. (http://www.thedeadbolt.com/news/105868/clifton_collins_jr_chicken_fried_interview.php) that went down the very afternoon the Michael Jackson died in which Clifton fills us in on his recent Country Music Television success as a director, his thoughts on the passing of Michael Jackson, whether he still carries with him a part of Perry Smith from Capote, his most interesting story from Star Trek, and his involvement in the upcoming Boondock Saints II: All Saints Day.SOURCE (http://www.thedeadbolt.com/news/105869/clifton_collins_jr_thor_news.php)

TheCorpulent1
07-02-2009, 01:21 PM
Well, that's one casting rumor that can die now, I guess.

louiebling$
07-02-2009, 02:38 PM
Is it me or does he seem kinda upset?

Lobo
07-02-2009, 02:52 PM
^He does. He knows he lost out on a role in what's sure to be a big hit, and likely franchise for Marvel.

Mister Sinister
07-02-2009, 06:16 PM
Is it me or does he seem kinda upset?

I think that interview was conducted immediately after he was turned down.

Venom'sDad
07-02-2009, 09:09 PM
LOL.... yeah, I kinda got that impression too.

ArmsHeldOut
07-03-2009, 07:55 PM
Interview w/ Clifton Collins Jr

SOURCE (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a161649/collins-talks-trek-thor-inception.html)

Umm.. someone needs to tell Clifton that Asgardians aren't 'Celtic' gods. They're actually Norse/Scandinavian.

ultrasuperduckman
07-07-2009, 11:41 PM
I"m getting kinda' excited about Thor. I went out and picked up a few issues of the comic. Have to say I'm a little confused about some stuff. (Loki was man...turned woman? But got to go back to his normal form to go back in time?)

But after hearing my grandma mention KB and how shakespeare he was. I'm getting the impression this should be a good film.

TheCorpulent1
07-08-2009, 09:03 AM
The gods all died and then Thor came back (gods are notoriously hard to really, truly kill) by re-bonding with his human side, Dr. Donald Blake. He set out to resurrect his fellow gods, whose spirits had drifted into human bodies. Unknown to Thor, while the gods' spirits were drifting in oblivion, Loki (who, as a powerful sorcerer, has plenty of experience as a disembodied spirit on the astral plane) pulled a switcheroo: he sent Sif's spirit to an old, dying lady's body and put his own spirit in the body that Sif's spirit would have inhabited. When Thor found that body and restored what he thought would be Sif, it turned out to be Sif's body inhabited by Loki's spirit.

Loki just recently gave up Sif's body to her spirit, which Thor found at last, and returned to his own body. Of course, he spun the whole incident so it looked like he was an innocent victim caught up in the messy business of divine resurrections and he didn't know any better.

DarknessFalls
07-22-2009, 09:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CcE5YasUic

Not a set pic but screencaps can be pulled from this recent video of Hemsworth testing out project natal. There seems to be a total lack of recent pics of this guy. Anyways not a Thor video but it gives us a more recent look of him.

5CcE5YasUic

ddddeeee
07-25-2009, 08:26 PM
Favreau was very political about whether he might direct The Avengers because he's been so busy making Iron Man 2, but he says that he's been seeing Thor come together and liked what he's been seeing.

Good stuff.

Vartha
07-26-2009, 12:16 AM
I"m getting kinda' excited about Thor. I went out and picked up a few issues of the comic. Have to say I'm a little confused about some stuff. (Loki was man...turned woman? But got to go back to his normal form to go back in time?)

But after hearing my grandma mention KB and how shakespeare he was. I'm getting the impression this should be a good film.
Also keep in mind Loki has always been a Shape shifter and a bit odd. Fernis the wolf is his SON as well as the Midgard Serpent. So being a female Asgardian wouldn't really be all that big of a surprise to the Asgardians.

Dog Brother #1
07-26-2009, 03:16 AM
That part is actually backed up by the real mythology.

Chewy
07-26-2009, 06:21 PM
Thor found its Norse war god in Chris Hemsworth, and Natalie Portman and Tom Hiddleston have also joined director Kenneth Branagh's comic-book adaptation, and on Saturday at Comic-Con, Marvel Studios production president Kevin Feige said to expect more casting announcements soon.

"I think we're nearing, closing in on Odins and Heimdals and the Warriors Three, which we're excited about," Feige said in a group interview in San Diego, where he was promoting Iron Man 2. "We're about halfway through prep. We start filming in January."

Feige estimated that about 30 percent of Thor would take place in the present day, which suggests a film favoring the historical Norse mythology.
Meanwhile, Feige said that The First Avenger: Captain America is on the production path after Thor, so it will be a bit longer before they cast Cap. "I think it'll be a few months," Feige added.

Prep is fully underway on Captain, though, even though director Joe Johnston has not even wrapped his current production. "We already have some concept artists working on it," Feige continued. "Joe Johnston's finishing up Wolfman now, but he comes with us—and we're already deep into the script—and was in the office last week with us. He starts officially, and we open the offices officially, in October."

As for the previously announced casting, Feige described why Hemsworth made the perfect movie Thor. "You know what, it's one of those rare things that doesn't happen often, but people like me always say it, so it probably sounds cliche," Feige said. "We auditioned a lot of people. We did a lot of screen tests. We put a lot of people on video, and one guy just kept popping out, and it was Chris. You realize, regardless of what he's saying or how he's saying it, you're engaged with him. It's that movie-star quality which I think he has, and, thankfully, looks like Thor, which is a good combination."

Feige looks forward to introducing San Diego Comic-Con audiences to his Thor cast in 2010. "You know, this is my 10th year, so I'd be disappointed if I'm not here next year."SOURCE (http://scifiwire.com/2009/07/sdcc-updates-on-thor-capt.php)

bunk
07-26-2009, 06:23 PM
Awesome stuff.

TheCorpulent1
07-27-2009, 09:26 AM
Shame they didn't have any big announcements ready to go for this year's Comic Con, but that's some good information. 30% in the present doesn't sound too bad. I'm glad the majority will still be in ye olde Norse times.

Venom'sDad
07-27-2009, 10:06 AM
30% is alot to be honest.... that's nearly a third of the film. Or, in a 2hr film, approx. 38 minutes will be in the modern era.

;)

TheCorpulent1
07-27-2009, 10:10 AM
Thor has one foot in each world, so that's fair. I prefer seeing him in Asgard, though, so the slightly uneven split in the film works for me.

Venom'sDad
07-27-2009, 10:12 AM
I do too, glad KB is taking the approach he is taking.

bunk
07-27-2009, 10:32 AM
30% is alot to be honest.... that's nearly a third of the film. Or, in a 2hr film, approx. 38 minutes will be in the modern era.

;)

Which is fine. He should be fully established in the modern world before Avengers.

chiefchirpa
07-27-2009, 12:21 PM
1/3 on the modern world and Natalie Portman is Jane Foster.

Hmm... I don't think they will show Nat near the end of the film. I smell a flashback or memory recollection in the plot.

Rich Santoro
07-27-2009, 12:33 PM
^ Agreed... I am just wondering what split the other 70% will be between Asgard and the Dark ages on Midgard. So will we only see about 38 mins in Asgard, and 38 mins in 9th or 10th century Scandanavia... and then the 38 mins in modern times on Earth???

Venom'sDad
07-27-2009, 12:45 PM
That's a good point

TheCorpulent1
07-27-2009, 12:49 PM
^ Agreed... I am just wondering what split the other 70% will be between Asgard and the Dark ages on Midgard. So will we only see about 38 mins in Asgard, and 38 mins in 9th or 10th century Scandanavia... and then the 38 mins in modern times on Earth???
Maybe we'll just have Asgard and the present. I wouldn't mind that at all. Why Thor has to be stuck in the dark ages on Earth is beyond me. Asgard's already basically like the dark ages on Earth in terms of the constant struggling to survive against invasions and such.

Carlo Comicus
08-26-2009, 06:57 AM
A new announce is near...

Aztec
08-26-2009, 10:05 AM
A new announce is near...

You are basing this on what exactly?

Chewy
08-26-2009, 11:28 AM
Carlo has posted cryptic stuff like that before and is usually spot-on. I'd take his word for it

UnionJack
08-26-2009, 01:33 PM
hmmm wonder what this will be?!

Keyser Soze
08-26-2009, 03:00 PM
Whenever Carlo Comicus makes these cryptic remarks, it reminds me of this:

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Aesop Rocks
08-26-2009, 06:18 PM
I'd cry like a baby if it was concept art.

Upset Spideyfan
08-26-2009, 09:30 PM
I hope they incorporate some of the old Thor film into this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmxtDl-u1aQ

UnionJack
08-27-2009, 03:21 PM
I hope they incorporate some of the old Thor film into this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmxtDl-u1aQ

wow Thor looks like he's in Bon Jovi!!

Aesop Rocks
08-27-2009, 04:47 PM
I hope they incorporate some of the old Thor film into this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmxtDl-u1aQ

Please no.

Chewy
09-03-2009, 12:28 PM
New interview with the writer
Reznik: What can we expect from Kenneth Branagh (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000110/) trading Shakespeare for norse myth and Marvel setting up for the series of mega-blockbusters? I must admit that I was astounded to hear about the talent and people involved, and I was curious about the process of how all these great minds collaborate on a ‘funny-book’ movie.

Ash: Here’s what I can tell you about Ken. He’s a ****ing genius, and I’ve believed that for twenty years. Henry V changed my life— no ****.

Working with him is easily the highlight of my professional career. I mean, his last two collaborators were a Nobel Prize winner and the greatest writer who ever lived. So, no pressure. Right?

It’s funny how many people bring up the Shakespeare/comic book dichotomy, but I reject it. Shakespeare wrote people who were larger than life but every bit as human as the rest of us. Isn’t that what the best superhero comics are about? It’s definitely what Marvel comics are about. Ken’s great wisdom is in recognizing that and treating THOR the way he would treat anything else. I think people are going to be surprised at how emotional and human the story is. Stunned even. It turns on things I don’t think we’ve really seen before in a comic book film. I’m tremendously proud of it.

As for the mega-blockbusters… just you wait. It’s been a lot of fun being a part of that process, as a fan and as a writer.

Reznik: With each of these huge solo titles ultimately leading to the upcoming Avengers flick (once again working within the confines of a franchise), how does the new Thor fit into the new mythos of Marvel’s uber-franchise?

Ash: Thor absolutely occupies the Marvel universe, in every conceivable sense. Once you see the movie, you’ll get it. I can’t imagine the Avengers film without him.

Reznik: I have to check—does everyone involved “get” Thor? Can we expect the source material to be treated correctly with reverence, and yet still work as a summer blockbuster for the mouth-breathing general populous?

Ash: Every single person involved with the development of the movie “gets” Thor. That’s a big reason why the work has been such a pleasure… you never have to defend the property from the people who own it. You can even make frog jokes without getting blank stares in return. If you get the frog jokes, you get Thor. That’s all there is to it.SOURCE (http://flimgeeks.com/blog/from-andromeda-to-asgard-a-conversation-with-ash/)

TheCorpulent1
09-03-2009, 12:31 PM
Haha, nice to hear about the frog Thor love. :D

Sebastos
09-03-2009, 03:36 PM
I think Thor's in good hands.

Venom'sDad
09-03-2009, 04:46 PM
^ I agree

KangConquers
09-03-2009, 05:10 PM
As long as Disney goes through with this, Thor could very well be the best marvel movie ever.

Aztec
09-03-2009, 09:43 PM
As long as Disney goes through with this, Thor could very well be the best marvel movie ever.

Disney will go through with it. Don't believe the fanboy paranoia.

Webhead2006
09-03-2009, 10:16 PM
nice find on the writer interview.

louiebling$
09-04-2009, 12:25 AM
Damn........ and its still 2009 :(


Its taking too damn long for this :(


That interview got me all excited again :up:

TheCorpulent1
09-04-2009, 09:47 AM
I just can't wait until Thor begins filming. It's been boring in Thor Land lately. :csad:

Sebastos
09-04-2009, 01:00 PM
Just thinking about all the updates and news we'll be getting is exciting once filming starts.

Webhead2006
09-04-2009, 01:00 PM
Well hopefully once production starts up in jan we will start getting updates.

Venom'sDad
09-04-2009, 01:36 PM
No doubt that we will.... things will pick up sooner, I believe.

TheCorpulent1
09-04-2009, 01:49 PM
We should be getting some more casting announcements between now and then, at least. Not much, but it's something.

Sebastos
09-04-2009, 01:52 PM
I can't wait for more casting news.

Keyser Soze
09-04-2009, 01:56 PM
Who else we waiting to get cast? Odin, Sif, Balder, Heimdall, Karnilla (if she's survived the redrafts) and the Warriors Three? That's 8 parts, and we have 4 months until shooting starts. Either all the casting announcements will come in a big cluster near the end of the year, or if its spread out more evenly, we're going to start hearing some casting news soon.

TheCorpulent1
09-04-2009, 02:00 PM
Do they ever keep casting after filming's started? Some of those parts are probably smaller and would only have a few scenes. Would they hold up filming for them or just go ahead with the stars and fill those other roles in as they go?

Sebastos
09-04-2009, 02:00 PM
Odin's been cast per say. :o

Venom'sDad
09-04-2009, 02:04 PM
Who else we waiting to get cast? Odin, Sif, Balder, Heimdall, Karnilla (if she's survived the redrafts) and the Warriors Three? That's 8 parts, and we have 4 months until shooting starts. Either all the casting announcements will come in a big cluster near the end of the year, or if its spread out more evenly, we're going to start hearing some casting news soon.
If those characters are cast by unknowns; they probably won't announce it... you just won't hear about it.

Webhead2006
09-04-2009, 02:14 PM
Well like someone said odin been cast, and their is rumors that one lady might have tested for sif, as for balder, heimdall, karnilla, i know nothing of those characters so i dont know how easy/hard they are to cast.

Chewy
09-04-2009, 02:23 PM
I think we'll hear more casting soon but keep in mind Branagh still has a month left on the second season of Wallander.

TheCorpulent1
09-04-2009, 02:31 PM
I didn't even know there was a second season of Wallander. So we'll probably start seeing more Thor news around October or November?

Chewy
09-04-2009, 02:36 PM
Obviously I don't know for sure, but that's my guess. He's been filming it for a few months and it wraps early October. We heard about Natalie Portman during the filming, though, so we might still hear casting at any point.

Keyser Soze
09-04-2009, 02:59 PM
Odin's been cast per say. :o

Really? Is it Brian Blessed? I thought that was rumor which has since been disproven?

Chewy
09-04-2009, 03:09 PM
I don't recall it ever being disproven but it was never confirmed, either

Sebastos
09-04-2009, 03:12 PM
Hence why I said per say. Given the fact that Blessed would be perfect. :bow:

Obi-Ron
09-04-2009, 03:35 PM
Hence why I said per say. Given the fact that Blessed would be perfect. :bow:

I saw Flash Gordon right around the time Thor was announced, and Brian Blessed was my pick from the get-go. I will be beyond psyched if that actually happens...I might just have to make "By Blessed's Bristling beard!" my new catch phrase. :cwink:

Sebastos
09-04-2009, 03:42 PM
Catchy. :up:

Danalys
09-04-2009, 05:42 PM
Odin's been cast per say. :o

per se

Sebastos
09-04-2009, 06:04 PM
I stand corrected.

Mister Sinister
09-04-2009, 06:51 PM
I'm really in two minds about Blessed, for one, I love the man and think he should be in all movies, but on the other hand, I think he's best suited to comedy.

Spider-Vader
09-04-2009, 08:48 PM
I know it's way to early to talk about any trailer, but I think the trailer should have the song from the Wolverine trailer in it. I think it fits Thor pretty good (& I love it :woot: ).


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Dog Brother #1
09-06-2009, 12:30 PM
See Blessed in KB's Hamlet as the ghost of the father for a great example of his serious acting. In Shakespearean English even.

Webhead2006
09-20-2009, 09:31 PM
Here is something that could end up being a problem for both Thor/Captain america now:
http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/urgent-intellectual-pit-bull-lawyer-marc-toberoff-goes-after-disneymarvel-deal-on-behalf-of-jack-kirby-estate/


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Specifically, the estate of Jack Kirby, co-creator of Captain America, The Fantastic Four, The X-Men, The Avengers, Iron Man, Hulk, The Silver Surfer and Thor, has sent notices terminating copyright to publishers Marvel and Disney, http://www.deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/marvel-disney-small1.jpgas well as film studios that have made movies and TV shows based on characters he created or co-created, including Sony, Universal, 20th Century Fox and Paramount Pictures. That's the news from the website bleedingcool.com (http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6068), which covers all things comic book. Normally these kinds of lawsuits are run of the mill for Hollywood. But not when they're litigated by Marc Toberoff, who is the bane of Big Media. He's had so many victories they're hard to count, especially in he comic book arena on behalf of Superman creator Jerry Seigel against DC Comics and Warner Bros. Like that case, Kirby’s estate is looking to regain his share of copyright in the characters and their use in comics and other media. "Such claims, if found valid, would begin from 2014 and, as always, it's worth noting that Marvel/Disney will still own the trademarks of the characters in comics, and the studios in movies. The likelihood is that, if successful, the Kirby estate would enter into negotiation over terms to continue publishing comics based on his work," the website wrote. Other recent cases which Toberoff has won or settled lawsuits on Lassie, Get Smart, The Dukes of Hazzard, The Wild Wild West, and Smallville. On the Superman case, Warner Bros could have been draped in black mourning the loss of a ****load of Superman dollars because of U.S. District Court Judge Stephen G. Larson's ruling: "After 70 years, Jerome Siegel’s heirs regain what he granted so long ago — the copyright in the Superman material that was published in Action Comics, Vol. 1. What remains is an apportionment of profits, guided in some measure by the rulings contained in this Order, and a trial on whether to include the profits generated by DC Comics’ corporate sibling’s exploitation of the Superman." Think about it: Siegel sold the rights to the action hero he created with Joseph Shuster to Detective Comics for $130, and his heirs got back ownership of the character in 1999 and could possibly lay claim to $50+ million of Warner Bros' and/or its DC Comics' cash. Can that happen in the Kirby case? The iron is that Disney CEO Bob Iger's ties to Marvel go back two generations to Kirby himself. That's because Iger's late great-uncle (his grandfather's brother) was illustrator/cartoonist Jerry Iger, who partnered with illustrator/cartoonist Will Eisner back in the 1930s to create the comic book packager Eisner & Iger Studios. And their first hire was Jack Kirby, who as you know later became the co-creator of many of Marvel's best known characters with then Marvel editor-in-chief Stan Lee. Lee, meanwhile, has been supportive of the Disney/Marvel deal (though he is fighting lawsuits of his own on other fronts.)

louiebling$
09-21-2009, 12:54 AM
As it says on the main page.... they will prolly settle... I don't think we have anything to worry about.

Webhead2006
09-21-2009, 01:09 AM
yea since there is so many other parties invovled in this with joe simon and stan lee i dont see the families gaining enough of the rights to muck around with things. Like the mess this lawyer caused with superman. Hopefully they will settle things out of court and just give kirby's kids a percentage of profits made off of kirby characters.

xtrmntor
09-21-2009, 02:16 AM
I'm also glad to see that they will avoid the "fish out of water" jokes. I'd like them to keep the tone of this film rather serious. Thor doesn't strike me as particularly humorous unlike Iron Man.

I am a little upset that more of the film will not take place in Asgard. I would have liked a more LOTR type fantasy movie film, that ends up in our world. It just would have been a nice change of pace for a superhero film.

Ditto. Asgard provides the perfect scenario for a place where the rules of the world are already established. Now they have to try and make it seem believable that a Viking god is running around in a modern city. They are making it so much harder for themselves for the GA to take the film seriously..

DarknessFalls
09-22-2009, 12:37 AM
Kirby was a "work for hire"...period. No grey area here. No need to settle. It's always popular to vote for the little guy but he's wrong here. He deserves nothing but credit for helping create the characters while working as a paid employee for marvel as a work for hire. That's it. Supes deal was different.

TheCorpulent1
09-22-2009, 09:22 AM
I always wonder if the creators themselves would be doing these kinds of lawsuits. If it were Kirby or Siegel themselves, I could see people rooting for the little guy. Since they're both dead, these lawsuits come off as their families trying to make a quick buck off of their work at the potential expense of everyone's enjoyment. They're like a stuck-up kid who takes the ball his parents bought him and goes home because everyone else isn't using it exactly as he wants.

Retroman
10-03-2009, 05:40 AM
Has it been revealed yet that ILM are (possibly) going to provide the visual effects for Thor and Avengers?:wow: Effects designer/coordinator Darrell Hunt posted the following "tweets" on his twitter page which seem to indicate that.

Starting to see how the next few movies map together effects-wise. Avengers is going to need a huge budget. 1:57 PM Jul 16th (http://twitter.com/dmhunt7/status/2674171281)

Natalie Portman is signed on for Thor! Life is good. 2:40 PM Jul 13th (http://twitter.com/dmhunt7/status/2619259438)

just finished a long set of meetings with ILM about Thor. Lots of good ideas about sets and character interactions. 4:11 PM Jul 7th (http://twitter.com/dmhunt7/status/2521244865) Source:http://twitter.com/dmhunt7

Credits to marvel_freshman from Iron Man boards for the find.

Note: I notice his account has been on a "This person has protected their tweets" mode. So maybe we weren't meant to see this.:o

TheCorpulent1
10-03-2009, 10:34 AM
Sweet. ILM's awesome. I just hope everything doesn't look too CG-ish like the Star Wars prequels.

bunk
10-03-2009, 11:11 AM
ILM is still the best until Weta really shows them up. This is great news.

Ace of Knaves
10-03-2009, 11:14 AM
Tis indeed news that is good. :thor:

Avengers is gonna need a budget of like, 400 million or something ridiculous like that.

TheCorpulent1
10-03-2009, 11:16 AM
Haha, that ain't happening. Hopefully they can squeeze some good effects in with the 100-200 million they'll probably wind up with.

Ace of Knaves
10-03-2009, 11:19 AM
That'll be tough though.

TheCorpulent1
10-03-2009, 11:28 AM
Eh, they can do impressive stuff with a fairly small budget these days. How much did District 9 cost? That movie looked pretty good but cost less than $50 million, as I recall.

Ace of Knaves
10-03-2009, 11:29 AM
Good point.

If Hulk is in it he'll bump the cost up a bit on his own though.

TheCorpulent1
10-03-2009, 11:31 AM
True. Fully CG bastard. :o

Son of Coul
10-03-2009, 11:32 AM
District 9 had a budget of like 38 mil. They managed to pull off the effects with that mostly because they didn't build any sets, they just used actual places. Marvel does not do this. They build tons of ****, at least IM and TIH did, so maybe they could take a tip from D9 and restrict that. Also D9 didn't use any big name actors, which is already too late for Marvel.

TheCorpulent1
10-03-2009, 11:41 AM
True. It's a shame they decided to integrate modern Earth into the movie more, at least as far as budgeting goes. Frosty, out-of-the-way areas like Greenland or the Vancouver or eastern European forests could've easily been used for cheap Asgard locations.

Ace of Knaves
10-03-2009, 11:53 AM
I would of thought Canada would be ideal for Thor. Snowy mountain ranges, forests etc.

TheCorpulent1
10-03-2009, 12:06 PM
Yeah, but it depends on where people are actually allowed to film. Vancouver's a filming hotspot there, but it's gotten so popular that its prices have probably gone up. That's why I figured eastern Europe might be a possibility. It's cheap and out of the way. I think the Underworld films were shot in that area.

Ace of Knaves
10-03-2009, 12:08 PM
Yea, closer to the Nordic homeland ay :thor:

TheCorpulent1
10-03-2009, 12:16 PM
Heh, that's why I mentioned Greenland, too. Although I don't know if there's even any infrastructure in Greenland to give filming permits and such. Does anyone actually live in Greenland?

Ace of Knaves
10-03-2009, 12:21 PM
Santa?

Webhead2006
10-03-2009, 12:57 PM
sweet news about ilm glad its them

Spider-Vader
10-03-2009, 04:20 PM
ILM? Cool. They're pretty good, Iron Man had some good special effects.

Venom'sDad
10-03-2009, 06:53 PM
Heh, that's why I mentioned Greenland, too. Although I don't know if there's even any infrastructure in Greenland to give filming permits and such. Does anyone actually live in Greenland?
Yes

louiebling$
10-06-2009, 12:05 AM
Heh, that's why I mentioned Greenland, too. Although I don't know if there's even any infrastructure in Greenland to give filming permits and such. Does anyone actually live in Greenland?
Paramounts's The Last Airbender filmed some key scenes in Greenland.

TheCorpulent1
10-06-2009, 09:22 AM
Cool. I literally don't know anything about Greenland.

louiebling$
10-06-2009, 11:00 AM
The only thing I know about Greenland is Greenland is Ice and Iceland is Green.... that knowledge I give credit to D2:The Mighty Ducks are back :o

Gamma Goliath
10-06-2009, 10:24 PM
what is your avvy from?

Keyser Soze
10-07-2009, 02:15 PM
Brian Michael Bendis talks a little about Thor and The Avengers:
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/10/bendis-dark-reign-ending-siege-starts-in-december/

louiebling$
10-07-2009, 04:10 PM
what is your avvy from?
Deadpool #17 Cover

louiebling$
10-07-2009, 04:23 PM
Brian Michael Bendis talks a little about Thor and The Avengers:
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/10/bendis-dark-reign-ending-siege-starts-in-december/
What does he say? can't watch the Video from work.

Keyser Soze
10-07-2009, 04:25 PM
Nothing much about Thor, just that out of all the projects being developed at Marvel Studios, he thinks Thor is the one that's going to really surprise people, and blow them away. He said it's going to be "an extravaganza", that the concept art and the visuals have just blown him away. Then he segues into that story about Kenneth Branagh performing the script for him and Joe Quesada.

On Avengers, he talked about having a meeting where they all hammered out the story and discussed it. They know who the villain's going to be, apparently.

Spider-Vader
10-07-2009, 07:50 PM
So, if Bendis is involved with Avengers does that mean Spidey & Cage will be in it? :oldrazz:


Oh yeah, then Hawkeye will get killed 2 times & then return but will not be anything like the regular Hawkeye.




He will also be a ninja for no reason at all.

blamerandy
10-07-2009, 09:10 PM
i was thinking that same thing about Mighty Ducks and the Greenland trivia. Why would anyone wanna be a duck? they dont have any teeth! Neither do hockey players:awesome::awesome::awesome::awesome::awesom e:

louiebling$
10-07-2009, 11:55 PM
i was thinking that same thing about Mighty Ducks and the Greenland trivia. Why would anyone wanna be a duck? they dont have any teeth! Neither do hockey players:awesome::awesome::awesome::awesome::awesom e:
:dry:

Kurosawa
10-08-2009, 12:09 AM
I always wonder if the creators themselves would be doing these kinds of lawsuits. If it were Kirby or Siegel themselves, I could see people rooting for the little guy. Since they're both dead, these lawsuits come off as their families trying to make a quick buck off of their work at the potential expense of everyone's enjoyment. They're like a stuck-up kid who takes the ball his parents bought him and goes home because everyone else isn't using it exactly as he wants.

Kirby definitely wanted more credit and did consider going after owing his characters. Siegel had planned for years to sue DC, in fact they waited for 15 years to sue DC on lawyer's advise.

TheCorpulent1
10-08-2009, 08:45 AM
Nothing much about Thor, just that out of all the projects being developed at Marvel Studios, he thinks Thor is the one that's going to really surprise people, and blow them away. He said it's going to be "an extravaganza", that the concept art and the visuals have just blown him away. Then he segues into that story about Kenneth Branagh performing the script for him and Joe Quesada.

On Avengers, he talked about having a meeting where they all hammered out the story and discussed it. They know who the villain's going to be, apparently.
I hope it's Loki. I'd be okay with one of the more Avengers-centric villains, though. Kang or Ultron or even Korvac. :up:

Ace of Knaves
10-08-2009, 08:46 AM
Loki as a movie verse cross over villain sounds good to me :awesome:

Keyser Soze
10-08-2009, 10:56 AM
I think Loki is most likely. Remember Kevin Feige talking about how Loki had the potential to be a recurring villain throughout the Marvel movieverse? What better place to demonstrate that than in Avengers?

TheCorpulent1
10-08-2009, 11:00 AM
That would be a nice nod to the comics. :up:

Webhead2006
10-08-2009, 01:08 PM
i wouldnt be against it maybe they can have loki cause bruce to loose control of the hulk and loki is using him as his muscle and all that.

TheCorpulent1
10-08-2009, 01:16 PM
Why do so many people automatically assume the Hulk will be the villain in Avengers?

Ace of Knaves
10-08-2009, 01:18 PM
It would be pretty cool if the first half of the film is them trying to get along and work as a team to stop Hulk on a rampage though.

TheCorpulent1
10-08-2009, 01:22 PM
If by "work as a team," you mean "send Thor to hold the Hulk off until the others can figure out a way to turn him back into Banner," sure. :oldrazz:

Ace of Knaves
10-08-2009, 01:24 PM
Well exactly! C'mon, as if you wouldn't LOVE seeing Thor face of against Hulk in big budget live action?

Hmmm saying that, it could go the way of Hulk vs :down

TheCorpulent1
10-08-2009, 01:26 PM
Yeah, exactly. If Hulk vs. is Marvel Entertainment's idea of how a Thor/Hulk fight should go, I never, ever want to see that again.

Ace of Knaves
10-08-2009, 01:28 PM
Indeed.

And this is a bit random, but where was Thor during WWH? Was that when Ragnarock happened or something?

TheCorpulent1
10-08-2009, 01:38 PM
Yeah, Thor was still dead.

Ace of Knaves
10-08-2009, 01:44 PM
Ahh I see. I wish he'd shown up and smashed Hulk up. But then yea, even if he was alive that would probably not happen, even though it should!

TheCorpulent1
10-08-2009, 01:47 PM
I'm sure he would've just gotten his ass kicked. I was glad he wasn't around. Clearly, they had the final showdown planned as the Hulk vs. the Sentry.

Khemik@L
10-08-2009, 02:07 PM
Yeah, exactly. If Hulk vs. is Marvel Entertainment's idea of how a Thor/Hulk fight should go, I never, ever want to see that again.

Actually I think the only reason it went that way was because Banner was not in the Hulk to suppress him. Remember Loki separated Banner from Hulk so what Thor was fighting was a Bannerless Hulk not the normal Hulk. If they do a Hulk vs Thor in a live action Movie I'm sure the fight would be far less one sided.

And speaking as a Hulk Fan I did not enjoy that fight. What's the point of the hype if Hulk is portrayed so much stronger Thor. I personally wanted to see Thor put up a stronger fight. But again I think that was only because Thor was fighting against the Raw, untamed, Bannerless Hulk

Carlo Comicus
10-08-2009, 02:35 PM
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00027809.html

already posted?

TheCorpulent1
10-08-2009, 02:37 PM
Yep, on the previous page. Although Keyser just posted the link and broke it down for us. This is the first official article I've seen on it.

Spider-Vader
10-08-2009, 05:28 PM
Why do so many people automatically assume the Hulk will be the villain in Avengers?
Seriously, I like Hulk as a hero. I'd be fine with one fight with Hulk though.

But, if Hulk's the "villain" I want him to be doing heroic stuff during the battles like saving civilians.

TheCorpulent1
10-08-2009, 06:26 PM
I could see them having to fight the Hulk at some point, but I don't need him to be a major villain in the film or whatever.

Obi-Ron
10-08-2009, 06:42 PM
Yeah the whole point should be that they all team up to take down the greater threat.

Hyperstorm
10-08-2009, 07:11 PM
Yeah, Thor was still dead.

Actually he wasn't. The reason he wasn't in WWH was because JMS didn't want him used outside his own series for awhile. In the original WWH outline Thor and Hulk were going to fight to a stalemate early in the mini and then Korg (the rock alien) would be shown worthy of lifting Mjolnir and Thor would decide to stay out of the conflict. Be thankful that didn't happen.

Webhead2006
10-08-2009, 08:12 PM
yea their been talks of hulk having some presence in the avengers film with/without norton. Plus hulk would be great way to have stark/fury/cap/etc characters in avengers start up together.

Obi-Ron
10-08-2009, 10:21 PM
Korg (the rock alien) would be shown worthy of lifting Mjolnir and Thor would decide to stay out of the conflict. Be thankful that didn't happen.

I don't know about lifting the hammer, but it would have been sweet to see some kind of interaction between Thor and Korg, who was based on one of the "Stone Men from Saturn"

louiebling$
10-08-2009, 10:52 PM
Actually he wasn't. The reason he wasn't in WWH was because JMS didn't want him used outside his own series for awhile. In the original WWH outline Thor and Hulk were going to fight to a stalemate early in the mini and then Korg (the rock alien) would be shown worthy of lifting Mjolnir and Thor would decide to stay out of the conflict. Be thankful that didn't happen.
WTF? I'm pretty sure Thor was still dead I don't remember the Thor title back then....Your speaking to Corp... he a is a Thor Encyclopedia :o

Kurosawa
10-08-2009, 11:50 PM
I don't know about lifting the hammer, but it would have been sweet to see some kind of interaction between Thor and Korg, who was based on one of the "Stone Men from Saturn"

Interaction, sure, but I'm sick of seeing other people pick up the hammer all the time.

KBX
10-09-2009, 02:50 AM
Nice to see the cast coming together, and is it safe to presume that Nick Fury will be in this movie now? Wonder how much of a role he will have....

TheCorpulent1
10-09-2009, 09:10 AM
Actually he wasn't. The reason he wasn't in WWH was because JMS didn't want him used outside his own series for awhile. In the original WWH outline Thor and Hulk were going to fight to a stalemate early in the mini and then Korg (the rock alien) would be shown worthy of lifting Mjolnir and Thor would decide to stay out of the conflict. Be thankful that didn't happen.
Actually, after looking into it, it seems you're right. I guess Thor was alive but, according to an interview on the upcoming What If: World War Hulk one-shot, he was on the other side of the world as Don Blake with Doctors Without Borders at the time. I assumed he was dead before reading that because it seemed wildly out of character for him to be alive yet not intervene when the Hulk was rampaging across the entire state of New York.

In any event, I'm more glad than ever that Thor was left out of it. Korg's cool and the significance of the Stone Man lifting Mjolnir is not lost on me, but Mjolnir's losing part of its unique character because everyone and their mother is picking it up. It wouldn't have been as bad as the red Hulk exploiting that stupid zero-gravity loophole, but one fewer hand on Mjolnir is good, as far as I'm concerned.