View Full Version : ....and Bryce Dallas Howard?
Carlo Comicus
06-08-2009, 03:10 AM
After the confirm about Kirsten Dunst in "Spider-man 4", someone think we see Howard back in the Gwen Stacy role? I have many doubt.:huh:
Etienne
06-08-2009, 03:19 AM
I'm still having a hard time getting over the fact that Bryce was in a Spider-man movie and did not play MJ.
thejon93
06-08-2009, 02:11 PM
After the confirm about Kirsten Dunst in "Spider-man 4", someone think we see Howard back in the Gwen Stacy role? I have many doubt.:huh:
Well... after the flop that was 'Terminator Salvation', I would say "yes". Bryce Dallas Howard will return to portray Gwen Stacy.
Spider-ManHero12
06-08-2009, 02:43 PM
I would love for her to return. Bryce did such a great job.
Joker
06-08-2009, 02:46 PM
I'd love to see her return, but I doubt she will. Raimi never wanted Gwen in Spider-Man 3. And it's not like SM-3 left her with a story that required any resolution.
She was simply a plot device to make MJ jealous.
luke1234
06-08-2009, 02:49 PM
she wont be written in. Theres nothing for her character. I really wish Gwen Stacey was in the first the first two spider-man movies so her death could be a significant factor in these movies.
Terror Inc.
06-08-2009, 04:09 PM
yeah i agree with Joker, i doubt she'll be in it, or Captain satcy for that matter. Useful for Spider-man 3 i guess, but after that theyre both pretty useless.
SpaceWay2009
06-08-2009, 04:48 PM
Captain Stacy could still be a part of SM4, such as catching criminals or helping Spider-Man trying to find the villain. Think of him as Lieutenant Gordon in BB/TDK. By the way, sorry for bringing up the BB/TDK comparison. I'm not one of those who constantly brags about BB/TDK success.
Adrian89
06-08-2009, 05:02 PM
I'm still having a hard time getting over the fact that Bryce was in a Spider-man movie and did not play MJ.
I'm still having a hard time getting over the fact they wasted that character and Cpt. Stacy as well, but I'm having even a harder time getting over the fact that SM3 completely sucked!:oldrazz:
she wont be written in. Theres nothing for her character. I really wish Gwen Stacey was in the first the first two spider-man movies so her death could be a significant factor in these movies.
I agree! Actually, if she would've been in 1 only it would've been good! Her death was one of the most significant factors in Peter's life. How could Raimi "skipped" her in SM1?
ross2287
06-08-2009, 09:04 PM
She was simply a plot device to make MJ jealous.
Which could have been/should have been Betty Brant. Fact.
mclay18
06-08-2009, 10:46 PM
If the writer and Raimi can't fit her in properly, then they might be better off not including Gwen in the film. She was only a plot device, even though Bryce was a FANTASTIC Gwen.
Although Nikki Finke said that there would be another gal part (might be Gwen or Betty), although that might be nixed with Abaire doing the script instead of Vanderbilt.
Mister J
06-08-2009, 10:55 PM
I'd love to see her return, but I doubt she will. Raimi never wanted Gwen in Spider-Man 3. And it's not like SM-3 left her with a story that required any resolution.
She was simply a plot device to make MJ jealous.
Entirely. A wasted character appearance that could have been easily filled by referencing Deb Whitman or Liz Allan, if not simply using Betty (as mentioned above). When you incorporate Gwen Stacy into the mix, I expect something more substantial than what essentially amount to a throwaway.
Dog Logan
06-08-2009, 11:18 PM
What's up with Raimi not truly wanting to use so many good characters? Gwen Stacy is awesome, and Bryce is a fantastic actress, it'd be a waste not to have her back.
And I agree Etienne, it's mind boggling that she didn't portray Mary Jane....she'd have added a much better flavor to the series than Dunst.
Entirely. A wasted character appearance that could have been easily filled by referencing Deb Whitman or Liz Allan, if not simply using Betty (as mentioned above). When you incorporate Gwen Stacy into the mix, I expect something more substantial than what essentially amount to a throwaway.What's up with Raimi not truly wanting to use so many good characters? Gwen Stacy is awesome, and Bryce is a fantastic I really want her back. In the end, it turned out to be a waste, but we were still introduced to her. It's not like we know yet in 4 that he's finished with school or no longer acquainted with Stacy. I hope the relationship between them is explored more and then that can set the grounding for a classic scenario alot here are familiar with. Plus she's a great actress and one of the bright spots of 3.
Dog Logan
06-09-2009, 01:41 AM
I completely agree, while the way her character was used was a waste, Howard did a fantastic job with what she was given, and I've enjoyed her work thus far. She's pretty damn underrated, but give her a chance to shine as Gwen Stacy in SM-4 and I'd bet all the money in the world she won't disappoint.
TomPiltoff
06-09-2009, 01:48 AM
I don't want to see Gwen back. The only reason I care about her is because her death torments Peter.
They've already blown their chance at getting that right on film, so her character has become superfluous in my mind.
Dog Logan
06-09-2009, 01:56 AM
She doesn't have to die in every story she's introduced in. There's much more to her character than simply dying and causing Peter a lot of grief.
Octoberist
06-09-2009, 03:51 AM
She was the best thing about Spider-Man 3, that's for sure...
Honestly, maybe they shouldn't have her in if it's going to complicate the narrative, you know? If they want to start off clean, maybe they should leave her behind and start anew, though I do like her acting.
I really really want Bryca Dallas Howard to find a role that makes her a superstar because she's beautiful and she's a great actress.
Steel Thunder
06-09-2009, 09:26 AM
Leave her out - the less crowded the story is the better.
protocida
06-09-2009, 09:38 AM
I'd like to see Gwen have a proper ending since the studio forced her into Spider-Man 3.
Frodo
06-09-2009, 09:50 AM
Leave her out - the less crowded the story is the better.
I agree. Hopefully we'll be done with the love triangles.:whatever:.
Dog Logan
06-09-2009, 11:42 AM
I fail to see how Gwen crowded the story, it's not like she was showing up in every other scene.
American_Hobo
06-09-2009, 12:12 PM
I wanna see Black Cat rahther than Gwen Stacey.
Adrian89
06-09-2009, 01:23 PM
^^ Yeah.
Project862006
06-09-2009, 01:26 PM
could of been our mj
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1760/brycehoward.jpg
also she would off been 19 when sm1 was being shot
Etienne
06-09-2009, 05:05 PM
could of been our mj
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1760/brycehoward.jpg
also she would off been 19 when sm1 was being shot
Damn.
JerseyJoker
06-09-2009, 05:28 PM
I don't think that Gwen needs a huge role in this film, but it would be great to keep consistency and have maybe Gwen become part of core of friends.
Gwen will never have the same role in the films, as she did in the movies, but is still a key character from the lure of Spider-Man and should be kept around. Plus, if she was willing to be in T4, a movie she maybe has 4 minutes of screen time, no doubt she would likely take a smaller role from SM3 and be in SM4.
Spiderine
06-09-2009, 05:38 PM
We may have seen the last of Gwen in SM3. Unless they are writing a much bigger story for her I don't see the need to use her.
TomPiltoff
06-09-2009, 05:41 PM
Gwen will never have the same role in the films, as she did in the movies, but is still a key character from the lure of Spider-Man and should be kept around.
I assume you meant to say she will never have the same role in the films as she did in the comics, and that's exactly why I think she ought to be left out of part 4.
Just because the name Gwen Stacy has weight to it when you're talking about Spider-Man isn't enough justification to have her there. Gwen is important because of what her death does to Peter. That can't be conveyed in the films, so won't her continued appearance just stray further from established continuity?
Dog Logan
06-09-2009, 06:55 PM
As I've already said, her character doesn't have to be killed off just for her to have reason for being in the movies.
Etienne
06-09-2009, 07:48 PM
I don't want Gwen in the movie if she is going to be a throwaway character yet again. Give her a meaty storyline or nothing.
Steel Thunder
06-09-2009, 08:36 PM
I don't really see Bryce as that good looking, she's kind of a 'Butter-face', there's just something not right about it, maybe a bit ratty.
Project862006
06-09-2009, 08:50 PM
that's is the thing with Kirsten she can look really hot or really ugly it is weird lol
Dog Logan
06-09-2009, 10:19 PM
I don't really see Bryce as that good looking, she's kind of a 'Butter-face', there's just something not right about it, maybe a bit ratty.
You must not know the definition of 'butter-face' if you think Bryce fits under that category.
Roy Batty
06-10-2009, 04:12 AM
She looks like MJ in this pic
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2441/39410057.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/39410057.jpg/)
Etienne
06-10-2009, 04:23 AM
How anyone can say she's not "that good looking" or call her a "Butter-face" even after seeing that picture is beyond me.
Roy Batty
06-10-2009, 09:18 AM
Bryce is asked about SM4 in this interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igfQSmTD1ms
Carlo Comicus
06-10-2009, 02:55 PM
Interesting.
Frodo
06-10-2009, 04:47 PM
I fail to see how Gwen crowded the story, it's not like she was showing up in every other scene.
Well to be fair it wasn't just her . The film already had too many characters and her character was nothing more then a plot device as someone stated. I think they need to trim the fat for S4 and focus on the core characters I.e. Peter, MJ, Aunt May and the Villian .
NewYorkSpider
06-10-2009, 07:05 PM
If she's in it, she needs a bigger role.
SpeterMan3
06-10-2009, 07:11 PM
If she's in it, she needs a bigger role.
She does. She could have an important role, and not just be a random plot device.
Bryce Dallas Howard keeps playing smaller and smaller parts.. She was the lead in Lady in the Water, then a few scenes in SM3 and 2 seconds in Terminator Salvation. Next time her scenes will be deleted, or something
SpeterMan3
06-10-2009, 07:28 PM
Next time, she'll direct.
Metal Spidey
06-10-2009, 07:48 PM
Isn't Bryce a dude's name?
Etienne
06-10-2009, 07:52 PM
Then that's a pretty feminine name for a dude. :oldrazz:
Metal Spidey
06-10-2009, 07:55 PM
Then that's a pretty feminine name for a dude. :oldrazz:
It is? Oh... ok then.
How anyone can say she's not "that good looking" or call her a "Butter-face" even after seeing that picture is beyond me.
Difference of opinion.
Etienne
06-10-2009, 08:13 PM
It is? Oh... ok then.
To me, yes. It could be because she's the only Bryce I've ever known of.
Difference of opinion.
It was a rhetorical.
SpeterMan3
06-10-2009, 08:19 PM
I know a guy named Bryce or Brice. Idk about the spelling.
what_19
06-10-2009, 09:03 PM
i dont think she's very hot at all...she looks plain and is wayyyyyyyyyyyy too pale for me..girl needs some sun.
she does look better with dark hair like in the above pics, but her as a blonde doesnt work at all
Superhero 101
06-10-2009, 09:15 PM
Bryce is Pretty
Julia Roberts is Pretty
Megan Fox is HOT!!!!
NewYorkSpider
06-10-2009, 09:38 PM
She does. She could have an important role, and not just be a random plot device.
I think they could tie it in with Dr. Connors being her student. Or, Kraven uses her as bait to get to The Lizard. Although, they might be a copy of the end of SM3.
SpeterMan3
06-10-2009, 09:41 PM
Ha, how didn't I think of the fact that she's a student? They could go a route similar to SSM.
Roy Batty
06-11-2009, 03:52 AM
;17041072']Bryce Dallas Howard keeps playing smaller and smaller parts.. She was the lead in Lady in the Water, then a few scenes in SM3 and 2 seconds in Terminator Salvation. Next time her scenes will be deleted, or something
Most of her scenes in Terminator Salvation were cut, which is evident when you look at the trailers. She played the lead role in a movie she shot before doing Terminator, which hasnt been released yet, and she just sold a screenplay she co-wrote to Universal, so you shouldnt be worried about her being sidelined in the future.
Dragon
06-11-2009, 05:48 AM
I think they could tie it in with Dr. Connors being her student. Or, Kraven uses her as bait to get to The Lizard. Although, they might be a copy of the end of SM3.
Why would Kraven use Gwen as bait for the Lizard? The Lizard hates all humans. Anyway this prevalent fan desire to see Kraven hunting the Lizard would make for a bad story concept. One villain would have to be watered down to make the other seem more dangerous.
Eggyman
06-11-2009, 08:29 AM
If she's in it she'll be in it just because she's established. Keep her out. The fat needs to be cut for a well-paced, compelling story.
bullets
06-12-2009, 11:45 PM
I she returns it will be a love triangle and spider-man 4 really doesn't need to go there.
I love Bryce though.
TheScarecrow
06-13-2009, 01:09 AM
I she returns it will be a love triangle and spider-man 4 really doesn't need to go there.
Not necessarily. Why can't they be friends? They're both in the same class - why couldn't she work with Peter at Dr. Connors lab? You need someone to fill the "friend spot" with Harry gone...
FaT_tONle
06-13-2009, 01:18 AM
The audience would never take a female/male relationship as "just friends"... especially when the lead character is involved. Something would have to brew. My original idea had something brewing with between Gwen/Pete as they try to save Connors. I still think it's a viable outline, but I don't expect Bryce to come back and maybe they don't want to end a series like that... ending with a death or something somber.
Most of her scenes in Terminator Salvation were cut, which is evident when you look at the trailers. She played the lead role in a movie she shot before doing Terminator, which hasnt been released yet, and she just sold a screenplay she co-wrote to Universal, so you shouldnt be worried about her being sidelined in the futureI'm not.
Jack_Sparrow
06-17-2009, 02:18 AM
It'd be a shame if she were to be sidelined in the future, considering she's actually talented and not just a pretty face. I can't tell you how frickin' happy I'd be if she were cast as MJ, but if they could at least get her back in SM-4 as Gwen Stacy, that'd still be awesome.
bullets
06-21-2009, 06:00 PM
I say split up MJ and Peter and throw Gwen Stacy in there for a while.
I say split up MJ and Peter and throw Gwen Stacy in there for a while.
More I think about where Raimi may go, the more I think that seems plausible.
I see a possible Death of Gwen Stacy on the horizon.
I don't really see Bryce as that good looking, she's kind of a 'Butter-face', there's just something not right about it, maybe a bit ratty.
I'd say the reverse. She's a butter body. She has a beautiful face, but she has big meaty thighs. There is a reason you mostly see her in long skirts and calf high boots.
Dark Victory
06-21-2009, 06:11 PM
I thought Bryce was gorgeous and definitely the more likeable character over MJ...then again nobody like MJ. As much as I liked Bryce's performance, Gwen still felt like a throwaway character, and was only there to create a love triangle with Pete and MJ. I wouldn't care much if he she didn't make an appearance, but it would be nice to hear her mentioned(a reason why she's not in the film, ex: a vacation, or model shoot halfway across the world).
Spiderine
06-21-2009, 06:13 PM
If they were to break up Peter and MJ then her role would be more apparent otherwise if Peter and MJ are reconciling or talking about marriage for what reason do they need her for other than another lame plot device of jealousy.
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